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Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tambutsoo on May 01, 2008 at 06:46 AM
Motherboard

EMAXX AMD780G-PRO SB700 + 64mb Sideport Mem -  3,299.00  -  http://www.emaxxtech.com/products.php?id=8
ECS A780GM-A (black edition) - 3,150.00   -  http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=866&CategoryID=1&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=123&LanID=0
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H AMD 780 Chipset - 4,100.00 - http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2758

Processor

A64 X2 4400+ 2.2ghz (AM2) - 2,950.00    /    A64 X2 4200+ 2.2ghz  (AM2) - 2,770.00  /   AMD A64 X2 5000 Black (AM2) Limited Gamer's Edition - 4,200

Ram module

2 x 1GB DDR2 800 Kingston - 1,990.00


Harddisk

320GB Western Digital SATA -  3,180.00  /    Western Digital 250GB   -  2,560.00   /    Seagate 1TB (terabyte) 32mb cache 7200.11 3gb/s SATA2 NCQ - 10,500.00

casing,keyboard,mouse,psu -  1,700

total 12.5k


optional

Liteon Blu-Ray Internal Playback Drive 4X BD-ROM (sata) - 6,500.00



AMD 780G Chipset with ATI Radeon™ HD 3200 Graphics -  http://www.amd.com/us-en/0,,3715_15532_15533,00.html




play all kind of movie
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tambutsoo on May 01, 2008 at 05:03 PM
Quote
One of the most exciting aspects of the RS780 chipset on the AMD 780G boards is that it incorporates the hardware decoding of VC-1, H.264, MPEG2 with it's UVD technology that was formerly available on discrete graphics cards. With it, you can offload the CPU and let the chipset with integrated graphics handle the decoding.






Gigabyte  GA-MA78GM-S2H


(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9172/gigazn2.jpg)



Model GA-MA78GM-S2H
Chipset AMD 780G + SB700
Int. graphics ATI Radeon HD3200+ATI Hybrid Graphics
GPU Clock TBD (DX10)
Memory Dual-Ch 4 DIMM DDR2 1066/800/667MHz
Graphics Slot 1* PCI-E 2.0 x16
Display port RGB, DVI/ HDMI with HDCP
PCI Slot 2
PCI-Ex1 Slot 1
Storage 6 SATA 3Gb/s (1 for eSATA port), 1 PATA
RAID 0, 1, 0+1
LAN 1*GbE LAN
1394 2 (TI 1394a, 1 by cable)
USB 2.0 12 ports (8 by cable)
Audio 8-Ch ALC889A HD audio w/ DTS connect
BIOS Virtual Dual BIOS
Form Factor Micro ATX (244x244)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tambutsoo on May 01, 2008 at 10:27 PM
(http://www.realtek.com.tw/images/products/High_Definition_Audio_Codec_Selection_Guide.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: themissingk on May 04, 2008 at 09:51 AM
That's great and all, where are you sourcing those prices?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tambutsoo on May 04, 2008 at 01:09 PM
That's great and all, where are you sourcing those prices?

Pc Store Daily Price List



http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=65195.0
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Weng! on May 14, 2008 at 04:01 AM
hi sir tambutsoo,

have u tried the above setup sir? the cost of this system is very attractive vs the hdd based media player. u can do other things with an htpc compared to tvix.

eto pala suggested low-end to hi-end htpc setups sa avs forum.
Guide to Building a HD HTPC (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=940972)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tambutsoo on May 14, 2008 at 09:19 PM
planning pa lang bro. currently im using this

(http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/7800/p965q9450re9.jpg)

Gigabyte P965 DQ6
Intel E8400
Palit 8800 gts  = dvi to hdmi out


(http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/129694.png)(http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/311362.png)(http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/226328.png)(http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/352410.png)


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: SiCkBoY on May 23, 2008 at 06:12 AM
I have a similar setup but it's crying for an upgrade though.  And I took out the 8800GTS since it consumes a lot of electricity (I think) and this is essentially a torrent rig.

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/jmcruz/R9D_BzHz_sI/AAAAAAAABro/4Dx9dFK1kRM/DSC01060.JPG?imgmax=576)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 11, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Are the HDMI ports of these HTPC capable of putting out 7.1 through HDMI? The rig I built was only capable of outputting 2 channel sound through HDMI to my HDMI receiver. Thus I kinda lost interest :(.

Or was there some setting I didnt toggle?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dyerds on Jun 11, 2008 at 04:13 PM
@tambutsoo and sickboy

Great setup mga sir.  ;D

I'm already using Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H for my HTPC but I believe I haven't maximize it's full potential yet.

@Matzter

I believe GA-MA78GM-S2H is capable of 7.1 audio by using toslink but not pretty much sure when using HDMI. You're using Emaxx, right?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 11, 2008 at 05:36 PM
@tambutsoo and sickboy

Great setup mga sir.  ;D

I'm already using Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H for my HTPC but I believe I haven't maximize it's full potential yet.

@Matzter

I believe GA-MA78GM-S2H is capable of 7.1 audio by using toslink but not pretty much sure when using HDMI. You're using Emaxx, right?

Yes, I think so (forgot already, haha).

I am looking for 7.1 audio through HDMI so as to utilize my HDMI receiver's abilities. I think this isnt fully implemented yet?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: aRujoN on Jun 23, 2008 at 01:01 AM
Guys, ok ba ang ASROCK ALIVE-NF7G Full HD720p G7050 motherboard?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tambutsoo on Jun 24, 2008 at 06:23 AM
ok man din bro but its an old mobo yan :(



look for nvidia 8300 or ati 780g mobo :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: aRujoN on Jun 25, 2008 at 02:33 AM
ok man din bro but its an old mobo yan :(



look for nvidia 8300 or ati 780g mobo :)

Thanx for the reply bout the mobo tambutsoo. :)

But for a cheap HTPC, pwede na ba itong mobo na 'to to make it cheaper?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tambutsoo on Jul 24, 2008 at 08:08 PM
haven tried nvidia chipset lately. subukan mo lang bro maybe ok yan
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: thesaint on Aug 24, 2008 at 01:47 AM
Mga Bro.
San available PC market sa atin yung Gigabyte na mobo na may HDMI?
Meron din bang casing na 200 watts lang yung PSU? Para tipid sa kuryente.
Pinag iisipan ko pa kasi kung HTPC or media player eh!
budget ko 15k to 18k...

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Aug 24, 2008 at 12:38 PM
We have the same idea Bro .... 780G is a really good chipset for HTPC, but I would recommend the Gigabyte over Emaxx because of DTS Connect support available on the Gigabyte MoBo ...there's also the new 790G chipset coming up, the only difference is the "sideport" - this functions as some sort of discrete memory or cash for the video processor and said to improve performance on 3d gaming at almost the same price level of the 780G ... my only worry about the Gigabyte 790G is that it supports Dolby environment, but the DTS logo is no longer included, hence I think the 780G would still be better if your primary usage is HTPC and not gaming.

To complement this, and if you're really thinking of budget HTPC, there's the Antec NSK1360 mini-casing with an 80%+ efficiency power supply built-in ...it sells at around 4k+ in Gilmore QC ... or if you have more budget, there's the Antec Fusion 430 HTPC casing (sold in black & silver) at around 9K+ - this has a built-in power supply, front panel display and remote, and this will blend in nicely with any of your other AV components...i'm not recommending the cheap casing with low-end power supply units because the usual usage for HTPC's are usually higher, and the fans included on cheap power supply units are usually noisy (no good for HTPC).

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Oct 30, 2008 at 01:53 PM
Mga Sirs, share naman ulit kayo ng HTPC set-up nyo.. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 01, 2008 at 05:41 AM
Sige umpisahan ko na.....

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/PinoyDVD/DSCN0060-1.jpg)

Specs:

ASUS M3N78-VM w/ HDMI
Athlon X2 5000
Creative Audigy Value Soundcard
Kingston 2GB DDR2 800
ASUS DVD Writer
Seagate 160GB Internal HDD
Seagate 500GB External HDD
WD Essentials 1 Terabyte External HDD
I-cute QS02 casing
Multi-card reader
500 watts powersupply

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jojitv on Nov 01, 2008 at 06:18 AM
Nice setup sir! Hard drive galore ah. Congrats. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 01, 2008 at 06:21 AM
Nice setup sir! Hard drive galore ah. Congrats. ;)

You know the reason why..... ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jojitv on Nov 01, 2008 at 06:53 AM
You know the reason why..... ;D

Hehehe ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 02, 2008 at 05:50 AM
my old setup .. :)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/100_0071.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/100_0047.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/ChiJam280.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/ChiJam276.jpg)(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/ChiJam277.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/ChiJam272.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: koykoy on Nov 03, 2008 at 08:34 AM
how about with prices guys so magka idea naman tayo how much to spend... :-)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 03, 2008 at 09:06 AM
how about with prices guys so magka idea naman tayo how much to spend... :-)
around 20k, really depends if you want to get a bdrom and the blings ;D
dont forget to add atleast 500gb external storage for meetups  :D :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 03, 2008 at 04:57 PM
Here's my HTPC

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/2937599282_f6db5e2a4c.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2939770979_36918587b5.jpg)

AMD X2-5000
Emaxx EMX-AMD780G-PRO
Team Elite 2x1GB RAM
Seagate 500GB HDD
Powerlogic casing with PSU

Total cost is around 13k without an optical drive

My previous HTPC, now retired to an audio/video server in the bedroom  ;D
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3215/2314444228_65db3256bf.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3272/2776657127_ca4e3e68ee.jpg)

Pentium 4 2.4Ghz
1GB Ram
80GB HDD
built in tv tuner
built in 20w amp
md player
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: koykoy on Nov 04, 2008 at 05:10 PM
nice! 13k lang huh...

might copy this set.up.

how's the fan noise of your casing/psu sir?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 04, 2008 at 07:09 PM
Here's my HTPC

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/2937599282_f6db5e2a4c.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2939770979_36918587b5.jpg)

AMD X2-5000
Emaxx EMX-AMD780G-PRO
Team Elite 2x1GB RAM
Seagate 500GB HDD
Powerlogic casing with PSU

Total cost is around 13k without an optical drive


Very nice.  Lagi ko nakikita yan casing na yan.  Very inexpensive indeed.  Kaya lang, masyadong bulky for my sala. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 05, 2008 at 11:04 AM
nice! 13k lang huh...

might copy this set.up.

how's the fan noise of your casing/psu sir?

tolerable naman ang fan noise.. Although since sabay sila naka-on ng window aircon, mas naririnig ko siguro yun.
Also, ala palang kasamang KB/mouse ito tska used my old IDE dvd writer, which would explain the lwoer cost  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 05, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Very nice.  Lagi ko nakikita yan casing na yan.  Very inexpensive indeed.  Kaya lang, masyadong bulky for my sala. 

Thanks.
For less bulky looking casing, you may want to look at diva casings   :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 05, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Thanks.
For less bulky looking casing, you may want to look at diva casings   :)
im selling mine, again...hahaha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 09, 2008 at 06:00 AM
Bro, you're selling your Diva case?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 09, 2008 at 06:13 AM
Bro, you're selling your Diva case?
yup, prolly after i setup my fake wall .. :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 09, 2008 at 06:49 AM
Let me know ah.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: praktikal on Nov 12, 2008 at 02:19 PM
sinu-sino na ba ang mga naka HTPC dito?

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Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: milken on Nov 12, 2008 at 03:04 PM
My HTPC Specs:
     Intel C2D E4300
     Asus P5N-E SLI motherboard
     Transcend 2x1GB 800Mhz RAM
     Palit 8500GT Sonic
     Samsung 160GB HDD
     Seagate 8GB HDD
     Seagate 320GB HDD
     WD MyBook 500GB
     LG DVD-RW 18x SATA
     HEC 550W power supply
     Duke Duo 9A casing
     Logitech keyboard and mouse
     A4Tech video cam
     Linksys WRT54G2 router
     DTech TV Tuner

Here are some pictures:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=86042.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=86042.0)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 12, 2008 at 06:10 PM
Ano ba ang accurate definition ng HTPC?  What I have is a PC that plays all sorts of media, but it definitely looks like a normal desktop.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: milken on Nov 12, 2008 at 07:26 PM
Definition of Home Theater PC in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTPC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTPC)    ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 13, 2008 at 09:50 AM
Definition of Home Theater PC in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTPC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTPC)    ;D

HTPC Characteristics

TV Connectivity - Pass

Minimal Noise Level - Highly questionable with 5 fans running inside the desktop case alone, and external drives with their own cooling fans, no noise dampener of any sort - But I dont hear them when watching something

High Storage Capacity - Pass but you'll never have enough of memory space

TV Tuner Card - Pass but useless because Im already connected to a TV anyway

Remote - Dont have (Fail)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Rak-Rak on Nov 19, 2008 at 07:40 AM
Heres my setup

Display: Acer 241 24 inch 1900 x 1200
Proc: Intel Q6600 2.4Ghz Quadcore
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L
Vidcard: Ati 3450
HD (internal): 1 TB, 320Gb, 160Gb,160Gb
HD (external): 1 Tb WD, 500 Gb WD, 120Gb
PSU: HEC 455 watts
Spkr: Altec Lansing 2.1
Editing card: Canopus Raptor

aside from watching 1080p/720p High Def mkv movies, this setup doubles up an editing workstation (occationally)


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: stick on Dec 03, 2008 at 01:09 PM
My Setup:

Display:  Samsung 22" LA22A450 (1680 x 1050) LCD TV HD Ready (720p/1080i accepts 1080p)
CPU:  AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000 2.6GHz(65W)
MB:  ECS A780GM-A
Video:  On-board ATI HD3200
Mem:  2 x 1Gb Kingston DDR2 400MHz (1 Gb shared for video)
HDD:  Seagate 160Gb internal / Fugitsu 40Gb external 2.5"
Drive:  LiteOn 20x DH-20A4P IDE dvdrw IDE
PSU:  Generic
Case: Orient Slim 27 Red
Spkr:  Altec Lansing CS21 Concert Series (2.1)

Display connected via HDMI,
Audio 1: via HDMI (PC stuff and gaming)
Audio 2: thru Spkr, Altec Lansing active sub is truly awesome overall 112dB SPL (145dB SPL for sub)

Next target in order:
1.  Bluetooth dongle for Remote control, I will be using my SE phone for this.
2.  HEC PSU
3.  1 TB HDD
4.  Internal Card Reader
5.  Full HD LCD TV 32" or 40" (maybe december 09 pa ito  ;D )
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Dec 04, 2008 at 05:54 PM
Sige umpisahan ko na.....

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/PinoyDVD/DSCN0060-1.jpg)

Specs:

ASUS M3N78-VM w/ HDMI
Athlon X2 5000
Creative Audigy Value Soundcard
Kingston 2GB DDR2 800
ASUS DVD Writer
Seagate 160GB Internal HDD
Seagate 500GB External HDD
WD Essentials 1 Terabyte External HDD
I-cute QS02 casing
Multi-card reader
500 watts powersupply




Sir,

I'm interested with the HTPC casing that you used ... what brand and model is it? how much? is it available locally?

Sorry, daming tanong ... yung mga target HTPC casing ko kasi puro mahal masyado and limited and internal storage capability
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: praktikal on Dec 04, 2008 at 07:55 PM
that's I-cute QS02 casing around 2k lang.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Dec 04, 2008 at 09:58 PM
HTPC Characteristics

TV Connectivity - Pass

Minimal Noise Level - Highly questionable with 5 fans running inside the desktop case alone, and external drives with their own cooling fans, no noise dampener of any sort - But I dont hear them when watching something

High Storage Capacity - Pass but you'll never have enough of memory space

TV Tuner Card - Pass but useless because Im already connected to a TV anyway

Remote - Dont have (Fail)



Pass lahat dito ang PC ko, but same as Sir Clondalkin, I do not consider it as an HTPC .... it's still an all-rounder desktop PC ... for me, my definition of an HTPC besides what is mentioned above, is that it is dedicated for multi-media player function and seats on the AV rack with my AVR, DVD player, NMT, etc.

If my definition of an HTPC fits your requirements, I would say that you do not really need a powerful processor ... what is required is graphics card or integrated graphics processor that has hardware-based graphics acceleration for HD contents - AMD 780G chip-based MoBo would serve this purpose well, complement this with a single-core AMD LE1640 CPU and you'll have an energy efficient and silent system (since you do not need a lot of fans to cool the system and a relatively cheap to assemble system ... medyo kailangan lang lakihan ng konti ang memory since the integrated graphics controller would utilize a chunk of the main memory...with this configuration, it will play all the 1080p contents that you have without choking.

By the way, my consideration on the above configuration is that you have a separate powerful PC that you would use for encoding and other serious stuff (like 3D gaming...hehe) .... the above configuration of HTPC would only be used as media center and also for torrent downloads, since it consumes less electricity and quite cheap - casing lang magpapamahal dyan kung magandang klaseng casing ang bibilhin mo.

My consideration on the ab
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: seanski on Dec 16, 2008 at 02:32 PM
Here's my Setup.  I'm currently planning to upgrade pero wala pa moolah. :)

My PC - total cost is around PHP 32k.
Processor   - Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz
Memory      - 1.5 GB
Hard Disk    - 80 GB Internal
Lite-On      - DVD-R/CD-R/CD-RW
Video card  - Inno3D 7600GST 256MB 128-bit

My video
E-Machines 17" CRT Monitor via VGA - bundled with the CPU
Panasonic 32LX77m connected via HDMI - around PHP 33K

My Speakers
Ordinary headphones - bundled with the CPU
Altec Lansing MX5021 (2.1 lang) - PHP 10,500.00


Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: JT on Dec 18, 2008 at 03:45 PM
I bought HP Pavilion Slimline PC S3385d since I dont have time to setup HTPC.  It works fine so far as MKV player. Specs below:

Microsoft® Windows® Vista Home Basic
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processor E4600
2.4GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB
1024MB DDR2 RAM
Integrated Intel High Definition Audio 5.1 Surround Sound Ready
250GB HDD
nVidia GeForce 8400GS 3D PCI-Express Graphics card
Video Memory: 256MB DDR2 dedicated graphics memory with HDMI, DVI and TV-out capability. 
**Up to 1023MB Total Available Graphics Memory as allocated by Windows Vista™
SuperMulti SATA Drive with Lightscribe Technology, Double Layer (8.5GB)
Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g
Integrated 10/100 BaseT network interface (Broadband Ready)
15-in-1 Digital Media Reader
4 USB 2.0, 2 PS/2, Line-in, Line-out, Mic-in, LAN, S-Video-Out
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: doughn on Dec 18, 2008 at 07:30 PM
Sige umpisahan ko na.....

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/PinoyDVD/DSCN0060-1.jpg)

Specs:

ASUS M3N78-VM w/ HDMI
Athlon X2 5000
Creative Audigy Value Soundcard
Kingston 2GB DDR2 800
ASUS DVD Writer
Seagate 160GB Internal HDD
Seagate 500GB External HDD
WD Essentials 1 Terabyte External HDD
I-cute QS02 casing
Multi-card reader
500 watts powersupply



where did u bought your unit? what store and price? TIA

i will only use it to play MKV 1080p files and internet
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 19, 2008 at 06:08 AM
where did u bought your unit? what store and price? TIA

i will only use it to play MKV 1080p files and internet

Bro, got the casing from a seller in TPC.  Other parts from Questlogic, BF Paranaque.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 19, 2008 at 06:26 AM
Bro, got the casing from a seller in TPC.  Other parts from Questlogic, BF Paranaque.  ;)
doc .. im planning to replace my htpc case .. just got a luna B rack from jeff and was able to paint it black, so no size constraint na sa casing .. :D
im choosing between yours and the cheaper s3 casing :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 19, 2008 at 06:28 AM
Bro, you're selling your Diva case?
yup, prolly after i setup my fake wall .. :D

SiCkBoY  (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2732919) i was able to setup my fake wall already .. click your highlighted name for more details ..  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 24, 2008 at 02:45 PM
Lots of new PC casings available at Gilmore.  Micro-ATX's mostly with remotes. Small footprint and looks nice with LED displays, volume knobs and such. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 24, 2008 at 10:03 PM
just got this!

lapad!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/grulyk/11-129-034-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: milken on Dec 24, 2008 at 10:57 PM
congrats ninjababez! ganda nyan antec.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 24, 2008 at 11:04 PM
congrats ninjababez! ganda nyan antec.  :)
thanks bro .. ^_^
got it for 2.5k, used .. :D (without the PSU though :( )
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: JT on Dec 30, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Is this Acer Aspire specs ok as HTPC: AMD Athlon 64 x 2, 1GB DDR2 memory, 160GB HDD, Nvidia GeForce 8200
with HDMI.



Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Dec 30, 2008 at 12:12 PM
thanks bro .. ^_^
got it for 2.5k, used .. :D (without the PSU though :( )

good buy!! inggit ako.. hehe
baka magsawa ka agad, PM mo lang ako.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Dec 30, 2008 at 01:50 PM
Is this Acer Aspire specs ok as HTPC: AMD Athlon 64 x 2, 1GB DDR2 memory, 160GB HDD, Nvidia GeForce 8200
with HDMI.





Hi JT- yup yup, can play up to 720p w/o hiccups, but with 3g RAM with 500G HDD mod and 8400GS upgrade and hybrid sli, it was also able to act as a gaming pc, and play 1080P files.
Here's our thread,check it out:http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=86163.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=86163.0)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 30, 2008 at 11:28 PM
good buy!! inggit ako.. hehe
baka magsawa ka agad, PM mo lang ako.. hehe
ill prolly sell this when the jay_26 sells his silverstone htpc case cheap .. :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Dec 31, 2008 at 01:43 AM
Guyz any pix on how you manage those pesky cables inside your htpc casing... own a i cute qs02 case but having a hard time dealing with the cables and stuff inside.. please help... i bought it today.. getting a little bit frustrated with it heheh... baka mauwi sa benta 2 pag nairita ako wahaha...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 31, 2008 at 01:51 AM
Guyz any pix on how you manage those pesky cables inside your htpc casing... own a i cute qs02 case but having a hard time dealing with the cables and stuff inside.. please help... i bought it today.. getting a little bit frustrated with it heheh... baka mauwi sa benta 2 pag nairita ako wahaha...
check this thread from tpc Modified Wiring Harness For PC (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=35773&page=1)

sample: (circa 2007)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/ChiJam324.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/ChiJam271.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/24-01-08_0738.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/5.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/6.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: et414 on Dec 31, 2008 at 02:06 AM
Guyz any pix on how you manage those pesky cables inside your htpc casing... own a i cute qs02 case but having a hard time dealing with the cables and stuff inside.. please help... i bought it today.. getting a little bit frustrated with it heheh... baka mauwi sa benta 2 pag nairita ako wahaha...

hi, anong gamit mong video card sa htpc mo? interested din ako sa qs02 kaso baka d magkasya yung 3870 or 4850 e
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Dec 31, 2008 at 02:16 AM
wala sir build-in lang gigabyte 780g... may build in na hdmi and optical-out ako na sia pang htpc... sagarin mo na lang mem mo aus..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Dec 31, 2008 at 02:21 AM
@ninjababez mas ok siguro kung ung htpc casing po mismo ang pictures... especially ung icute qs02 ang nandun para mas magkaroon po me idea... full atx kasi ung case na un and madali itago sa likod ung wires unlike ung htpc case sobra hirap i mange ang cable baka may master dian na nakamanage itago post naman na pix.. thnx.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 31, 2008 at 03:04 AM
@ninjababez mas ok siguro kung ung htpc casing po mismo ang pictures... especially ung icute qs02 ang nandun para mas magkaroon po me idea... full atx kasi ung case na un and madali itago sa likod ung wires unlike ung htpc case sobra hirap i mange ang cable baka may master dian na nakamanage itago post naman na pix.. thnx.
my amd powered htpc runs cool so i didnt bother to do cable management .. :D
if you live near makati, i can do it for free  ;)
or you can have a pro (http://www.tipidpc.com/ratings.php?username=tantric) do it for you (iirc tantric charges 500 pesos for cable management jobs)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Dec 31, 2008 at 03:31 AM
pasay area lang ako sir hehe lapit lang sa makati.. un.. paano po ang setup natin patulong po ako...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 31, 2008 at 03:51 AM
pasay area lang ako sir hehe lapit lang sa makati.. un.. paano po ang setup natin patulong po ako...
lets meetup after the holidays  ;) 
my location is at pembo/rizal makati. (which should be taguig city since its in between market2x mall and bicutan  :-\ :-\ )

if youre in a hurry though contact tantric (http://www.tipidpc.com/ratings.php?username=tantric)  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Dec 31, 2008 at 03:55 AM
di naman po ako nagmamadali... dami pa naman siguro magpopost ng pic ng loob ng casing nila maybe ill pm tantric if papa mod ko na ung casing hehe.... kaya pa naman natin i mange to.. with a little help of course.. sir add me up ym: [email protected]
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: darkpalosx on Jan 02, 2009 at 11:31 PM
medyo ot hindi ko alam kung san tama ipost eto e,meron bang hdmi to rgb wire or converter?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 03, 2009 at 12:45 AM
medyo ot hindi ko alam kung san tama ipost eto e,meron bang hdmi to rgb wire or converter?
i saw one online .. a bit expensive though ..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 05, 2009 at 11:28 PM
guys i need po your inputs. my officemate is planning to sell his CPU, eto setup nya more or less:

q6600 intel quadcore 2.4ghs for every core
geforce 9600gt 1ghz
2 gb ddr2
gigabyte motherboard
320 sata drive

papasa naba as HTPC? Balak ko kasi kumuha ng E-great media player pero kung pwede na yan, hindi nalang siguro. I'll be using my 32 inch LCD TV as my monitor and 2.1 Bose Speakers.

tatawaran ko sya ng 15k eh. pwede na ba? presyong kaibigan sympre saka 2nd hand na. 29k daw assemble nya..
thanks po sa magrereply..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 06, 2009 at 08:16 AM
guys i need po your inputs. my officemate is planning to sell his CPU, eto setup nya more or less:

q6600 intel quadcore 2.4ghs for every core
geforce 9600gt 1ghz
2 gb ddr2
gigabyte motherboard
320 sata drive

papasa naba as HTPC? Balak ko kasi kumuha ng E-great media player pero kung pwede na yan, hindi nalang siguro. I'll be using my 32 inch LCD TV as my monitor and 2.1 Bose Speakers.

tatawaran ko sya ng 15k eh. pwede na ba? presyong kaibigan sympre saka 2nd hand na. 29k daw assemble nya..
thanks po sa magrereply..

anong motherboard yan .. medyo pwede na siguro sa 15k yan kung 1 month old ganun .. hehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jay_26 on Jan 06, 2009 at 09:15 AM
ill prolly sell this when the jay_26 sells his silverstone htpc case cheap .. :D

waaaaahhh bakit nasama yung casing ko  :'(

COngrats bro sa new casing, mahaba rin ba yan katulad sa akin? Hirap maghanap kasi ng rack eh, sakin lagpas pa rin  :-[
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 06, 2009 at 09:55 AM
anong motherboard yan .. medyo pwede na siguro sa 15k yan kung 1 month old ganun .. hehehe


gigabyte motherboard..mahal naba sa 15k yan? all in napo kasi yan pati peripherals like keyboard and mouse..kung kukunin ko ung AOC 22 inch LCD nya kukunin ko ng 20k..nung august nya nabili daw..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 06, 2009 at 10:15 AM

gigabyte motherboard..mahal naba sa 15k yan? all in napo kasi yan pati peripherals like keyboard and mouse..kung kukunin ko ung AOC 22 inch LCD nya kukunin ko ng 20k..nung august nya nabili daw..
mura na yun bro for 20k basta kasama 22"  :)

waaaaahhh bakit nasama yung casing ko  :'(

COngrats bro sa new casing, mahaba rin ba yan katulad sa akin? Hirap maghanap kasi ng rack eh, sakin lagpas pa rin  :-[
yuff mahaba pa sa casing mo .. :)
it can only fit mAtx though .. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 06, 2009 at 10:29 AM
mura na yun bro for 20k basta kasama 22"  :)

pero pasado napo ba ung specs for a decent htpc?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 06, 2009 at 10:59 AM
guys i need po your inputs. my officemate is planning to sell his CPU, eto setup nya more or less:

q6600 intel quadcore 2.4ghs for every core
geforce 9600gt 1ghz
2 gb ddr2
gigabyte motherboard
320 sata drive

papasa naba as HTPC? Balak ko kasi kumuha ng E-great media player pero kung pwede na yan, hindi nalang siguro. I'll be using my 32 inch LCD TV as my monitor and 2.1 Bose Speakers.

tatawaran ko sya ng 15k eh. pwede na ba? presyong kaibigan sympre saka 2nd hand na. 29k daw assemble nya..
thanks po sa magrereply..

If you'll buy this kind of setup at this time, this is very reasonable. Imagine, a 1G 9600GT Video card, that presumably indicates that he has a branded power supply,plus the fact that it's a quadcore.If you do the math, it's as if you got a free 2G RAM and MoBo.

And yes, it's not only decent for a HTPC, but has room for lots of improvement.

If you'll pass kindly refer him to me. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 06, 2009 at 12:29 PM
My usual question.  Meron nang OS diba?   ;D   Licensed? 

That kind of set-up should be able to perform all the functions of the E-Great with ease and you'd have a pretty powerful PC as well. 

Kung di ko lang naayos (finally) yung codec ng Pentim-D sa Pasig, I would be very interested to line up after you and Alfie.   ;D  Ibibigay kaya talaga ng 15K? 

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 06, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Clondalkin, mukhang may OS na iyan' kasi ginamit na eh'....at kung di' man' licensed OK parin ako sa 15K.....Please lang....kung di' kayo mag-kasundo, nandirito kami  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 06, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Clondalkin, mukhang may OS na iyan' kasi ginamit na eh'....at kung di' man' licensed OK parin ako sa 15K.....

Oo nga no. Kahit bumili ng licensed OS worth 5K, reasonable pa rin yung total price for a quad core system.   :)

BTW Bros, I can vouch for the effectiveness of CoreAVC Ver. 1.8.5 for Pentium-D systems.   My Pentium-D desktop is finally 1080p capable after so many failed trials using various codecs and older versions of CoreAVC.   :)   
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 06, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Oo nga no. Kahit bumili ng licensed OS worth 5K, reasonable pa rin yung total price for a quad core system.   :)

BTW Bros, I can vouch for the effectiveness of CoreAVC Ver. 1.8.5 for Pentium-D systems.   My Pentium-D desktop is finally 1080p capable after so many failed trials using various codecs and older versions of CoreAVC.   :)   
on your pentium D machine, what are the players that are installed?
im having issues with 1080p HD dvd r*pp3d  :(  e.g. band of brothers, again   >:(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 06, 2009 at 12:54 PM
on your pentium D machine, what are the players that are installed?
im having issues with 1080p HD dvd r*pp3d  :(  e.g. band of brothers, again   >:(

KMP.  Kayang kaya na all 1080ps lalo na yung DXVA compliant.  Dati pinipilit ko pa sa MPC because mas magaang kesa sa KMP.  Now oks na lahat.  Wife prefers KMP kase maganda agad ang default sound quality, whilst sa MPC, you need to configure AC3Filter properly pa.

Try mo CoreAVC 1.8.5.  Medyo parang mas maganda nga lang ang PQ kung FFDshow...but slight lang.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 06, 2009 at 01:06 PM
KMP.  Kayang kaya na all 1080ps lalo na yung DXVA compliant.  Dati pinipilit ko pa sa MPC because mas magaang kesa sa KMP.  Now oks na lahat.  Wife prefers KMP kase maganda agad ang default sound quality, whilst sa MPC, you need to configure AC3Filter properly pa.

Try mo CoreAVC 1.8.5.  Medyo parang mas maganda nga lang ang PQ kung FFDshow...but slight lang.


no issue if you turn on the ffdshow ?  :D
i have to agree .. with the kmplayer and mpc comparison  :)
kmplayer is my main player and mpc for all around player  :D
im gonna visit a friend in pasig (rob towers) on thursday .. are you still in pasig, manila?  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 06, 2009 at 01:18 PM
no issue if you turn on the ffdshow ?  :D
i have to agree .. with the kmplayer and mpc comparison  :)
kmplayer is my main player and mpc for all around player  :D
im gonna visit a friend in pasig (rob towers) on thursday .. are you still in pasig, manila?  :)

Pentium D with FFDshow and MPC - dehins kaya ALWAYS ang 1080p...minsan tsamba, kadalasan sinisinok.. pero maganda ang PQ.

Pentium D with KMP and Internal Codecs - Hopeless

Pentium D with KMP and CoreAVC 1..8.5 - Solved!

Im back in Tokyo.   :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 06, 2009 at 03:52 PM
My usual question.  Meron nang OS diba?   ;D   Licensed? 

That kind of set-up should be able to perform all the functions of the E-Great with ease and you'd have a pretty powerful PC as well. 

Kung di ko lang naayos (finally) yung codec ng Pentim-D sa Pasig, I would be very interested to line up after you and Alfie.   ;D  Ibibigay kaya talaga ng 15K? 



May OS na pero im not sure kung licensed eh, tatanong ko pa mamaya pagpasok namin.. Ano pa ba mga dapat kong itanong master? I apologize ha, medyo newbie pako pagdating dito.. Nasabi ko na sa kanya na kukunin ko ng 15k without the 22 inch LCD and 20k pag may LCD.. Mukhang kakagatin kasi nabola ko ata.. Since gusto na nya ibenta para di nadaw sya matempt maglaro ng games at masimulan na nya magaral for his cisco certification kaya bibili nalang daw sya ng laptop.. Nahiya nga ako eh kasi masyado ko ata binarat.. Hehehe..  Hihingiin ko pa pati ung game pad nya.. Hehehe.. Kasama LCD gumastos sya ng 42k nung inassemble nya..

Sir help nyo po ako magset-up pag nakuha ko na po ha..  Mukhang papalitan ko din casing na pang HTPC kasi ung typical slim casing lang sya eh..

Thank you all po for the prompt reply ha? Highly appreciated po ng isang newbie like me..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 06, 2009 at 03:56 PM
If you'll buy this kind of setup at this time, this is very reasonable. Imagine, a 1G 9600GT Video card, that presumably indicates that he has a branded power supply,plus the fact that it's a quadcore.If you do the math, it's as if you got a free 2G RAM and MoBo.

And yes, it's not only decent for a HTPC, but has room for lots of improvement.

If you'll pass kindly refer him to me. ;) ;D

Kaya nga nung inoffer nya na ibebenta nya binakuran ko na kaagad eh.. Hehehe.. Sana lang wag matauhan..  :D
Don't worry Sir next in line ka..  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Jan 06, 2009 at 10:37 PM
on your pentium D machine, what are the players that are installed?
im having issues with 1080p HD dvd r*pp3d  :(  e.g. band of brothers, again   >:(

Congrats Allan! Finally ok na yung pentium D.... Back in Tokyo ne... Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 06, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Congrats Allan! Finally ok na yung pentium D.... Back in Tokyo ne... Happy New Year!

Thanks to your tip on the latest CoreAVC Chess.   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 07, 2009 at 09:40 AM
Pentium D with FFDshow and MPC - dehins kaya ALWAYS ang 1080p...minsan tsamba, kadalasan sinisinok.. pero maganda ang PQ.

Pentium D with KMP and Internal Codecs - Hopeless

Pentium D with KMP and CoreAVC 1..8.5 - Solved!

Im back in Tokyo.   :(
forgot to check the version, i used the 1.6 version .. i was giving up on this sana :D good thing i logged in today  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunblade977 on Jan 07, 2009 at 03:14 PM
just got this!

lapad!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/grulyk/11-129-034-02.jpg)


Congrats bro! nakuha mo na pala ito sa TPC.. musta naman.. nasetup mo na?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kapau on Jan 07, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Hi, i'm currently selling my IMon Ultrabay HD and wireless keyboard for HTPC click the link below.

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=90663.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=90663.0)


RFS: Need money
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: JT on Jan 08, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Hi JT- yup yup, can play up to 720p w/o hiccups, but with 3g RAM with 500G HDD mod and 8400GS upgrade and hybrid sli, it was also able to act as a gaming pc, and play 1080P files.
Here's our thread,check it out:http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=86163.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=86163.0)

Hey, thanks bro. Got it last week and it works fine. Thanks a lot.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 08, 2009 at 11:54 AM
I downloaded a CoreAVC 1.8.5. torrent, from BT Junkie(only one that has 7 seeds others were abandoned)however, my AVG indicated that the crack and Keygen was a Trojan. :P

to those using this codec.....Did you get the same, or did you purchase the $7 standard and $15 Pro ?  ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 08, 2009 at 01:22 PM
to those using this codec.....Did you get the same, or did you purchase the $7 standard and $15 Pro ?  ???

I got it from HD-bits, the EDGE release.  Pro version daw  ;)  It's clean based on comments from those who DL'd previously and when I tried, ok naman ang keygen and the installer unlike other apps where Norton or McAfee or Interscan deletes them.   I can email you the installer if you want.  It's only about 1.15MB.   Keygen would probably be blocked automatically because it's a marked word, so I'd just generate myself in case.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 08, 2009 at 01:26 PM
Clondalkin-Thank you, I'll try to look for it, really appreciate your response. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 09, 2009 at 06:06 AM
I was able to successfully download and install the coreavc 1.8.5, now, how do I configure this?

I tried playing the KMplayer, however, it seemed configured to it's own set of codecs?

I also tried the Media Player Classic and it stayed  with the same set of codecs. :-\

To those using this, can you give some pointers, and thanks for your responses. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 09, 2009 at 09:15 AM
For KMP

Right click, Options, Preferences or press F2

Under Filter Control/Decoder Usage, click Internal Video Decoder and uncheck H.264 and AVC1 tick boxes.

Click External Video Decoder, External Decoder Search, Add After Scan - then all installed external decoders will be listed in the window.  If CoreAVC is properly installed it will be detected and included in the list.  Press OK to close window.

Click External Video Decoder again then click the Down Arrow next to the H.264 Video box and select *CoreAVC Video Decoder.   Do the same operation on AVC1.   If you want to play around with the settings of CoreAVC, click the "C" next to the Down Arrow and the Filter Info will be displayed.  Close Preferences Window and that's it.

PS.  Mukhang ang ganda ng bagong beta ng KMP -ver. 1434



MPC

Right click, Options, External Filters, Add Filter.

Select CoreAVC, press OK, tick the Prefer box, press OK to close window and that's it. 

In case maraming ibang external codecs, disable or uninstall them.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: milken on Jan 09, 2009 at 09:35 AM
I was able to successfully download and install the coreavc 1.8.5, now, how do I configure this?

I tried playing the KMplayer, however, it seemed configured to it's own set of codecs?

I also tried the Media Player Classic and it stayed  with the same set of codecs. :-\

To those using this, can you give some pointers, and thanks for your responses. ;)


Alternative procedure for MPC:

If you're using Media Player Classic with ffdshow as default video decoder, you have to disable "libavcodec" in h.264/avc format inside ffdshow video decoder configuration (find the ffdshow video decoder configuration in Programs) so that CoreAVC will automatically be used to decode the video.  To check if CoreAVC is working, open a mkv file, right click, point to "Filters", you should see CoreAVC Video Decoder instead of ffdshow.  I use K-Lite Codec Pack btw.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 09, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Clondalkin- Thank you so much, Ma-a-asahan ka talaga.  ;) ;D

Milken- Thank you, hilig ko talaga at nakasanayan ang MPC. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 09, 2009 at 01:10 PM
For smooth playback of 1080p (H.264/AVC) in an HTPC, CoreAVC is the way to go.
As I understand, I could be wrong, CoreAVC utilizes all available cores of a CPU. The common FFDShow codec only uses one core and does not support multi-core processing.  With MKV, as far as I know, playback relies on CPU processing.  Not unless you are using a video card with accompanying software that helps the CPU play the video (CPU + GPU), CoreAVC provides a great software based boost to video playback.

(http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj477/fernando_montalban/1080pFFDShow.jpg)
1080p Playback using FFDshow Video Decoder

(http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj477/fernando_montalban/1080pCoreAVC.jpg)
1080p Playback using CoreAVC Video Decoder

Note:
I am using Dual Core Intel Atom, the reason that four cores are visible is due to the hyper threading capability.  One core shows up as two cores.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 09, 2009 at 01:19 PM
Dual Core Atom?

When did they become available?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 09, 2009 at 01:47 PM
@Alfie

Medyo matagal na po sir... mga late Sept 2008 ko po nabili yung akin...
Mini-itx form factor... hindi netbook...
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D945gclf2/D945gclf2-overview.htm (http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D945gclf2/D945gclf2-overview.htm)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 09, 2009 at 02:10 PM
Yup, read about it and heard about it in Gilmore, but I never thought that it was already available, in fact, I was gearing for the dual core celeron.

So is the performance might be better than the dual core celeron ?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 09, 2009 at 03:40 PM
@Alfie
My dual core atom "HTPC" (it barely reaches HTPC status) serves well enough for what I built it for, playback of SD content, particularly my favorite television series on my 29" CRT bedroom TV.  But it ends there.  Do not expect much from it especially with HD content.  Big mkv files do play good and smooth at lower resolutions like 1024X768, but what's the use of getting high bitrate video if you will play them at that resolution.  In the end, it may suit your needs but most likely, it won't, especially as an HTPC.  Don't know much about the dual core celeron but I doubt it will fare good as an HTPC as well.  Then again, there are so many tweaks out there, it might be able to do the job.  I mean, CoreAVC boosted my dual atom in terms of video playback.  Between the dual core atom and dual core celeron, I think the celeron is better.

PS
Presently, I just connect my laptop via VGA to my Sammy 40A650 as the parts for my Athlon based HTPC is not yet finalized and of course 'konting ipon pa'.  The dual atom is now also a NAS and a torrent rig but still connected to my CRT (the CRT acts as its monitor).  I still watch SD content from it all the time.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 09, 2009 at 04:01 PM
O' ayan...Mayroon na tayon'g may 1st hand experience na nag report tungkol sa Intel Atom.

Dati' kasi na-pag-debate-han namin nila Clondalkin iyan' pero wala pa naman sa amin gumagamit nang Atom bilang HTPC. Ang karamihan kasi noon naka single core Atom na Netbook lang, sa experience ko naman sa Wind nang Misis ko na single core, hangang axxo files lang ako. Ginawa kong parang small monitor divx viewer..he-he.  ;)

Fernando_Montalban...mas mura ba ang kuha mo, kasi sa estimate ko dati dati kung dual core celeron a-abot nang 10-12K din. pag may onboard video ang MoBo, 120G HDD at 2 GigRAM. Paki share na rin ang expenses mo. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 09, 2009 at 05:38 PM
...Big mkv files do play good and smooth at lower resolutions like 1024X768, but what's the use of getting high bitrate video if you will play them at that resolution...

If this is the case, then in theory your Dual Core Atom may be able to play well on a native 1024x768 plasma like the PV80? 

Your Samsung is a full HD panel but you're forcing it at less than half its native resolution, hence the degradation in image.  If your PC  is capable of rendering the video bitstream at the monitor's optimal/native settings, the resulting image should look good.   For instance, I like watching MKV on an HDTV CRT which has much lower resolution than 1080p.  I set the CRT at 720p, its optimal setting per TV specs.  I play a 720p content and it looks nice.  I then play a 1080p content and it looks even greater.    So baka magandang lumabas if you connect the Dual Core Atom to a PV80.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 09, 2009 at 09:46 PM
@Alfie
Give or take, 11k lahat... D945GCLF2~4k, 640GB HDD~4.5k, 2gig ram~1k, Casing with PSU~1.5k...

If this is the case, then in theory your Dual Core Atom may be able to play well on a native 1024x768 plasma like the PV80? 

Your Samsung is a full HD panel but you're forcing it at less than half its native resolution, hence the degradation in image.  If your PC  is capable of rendering the video bitstream at the monitor's optimal/native settings, the resulting image should look good.   For instance, I like watching MKV on an HDTV CRT which has much lower resolution than 1080p.  I set the CRT at 720p, its optimal setting per TV specs.  I play a 720p content and it looks nice.  I then play a 1080p content and it looks even greater.    So baka magandang lumabas if you connect the Dual Core Atom to a PV80.

@Clondalkin
Actually, come to think of it, that may be the case. If so, the dual atom pc could actually deliver a good viewing experience at a reasonable price. But I should say that I have never connected my dual atom pc to the Sammy 40A650.  I have only connected it to my 29" CRT TV and 15" monitor that we have lying around at 1024x768 resolution.  Both displays are beside each other.  The TV is connected by S-Video and the monitor by VGA. I was not able to mention this earlier. I seldom use the real monitor, technically, the TV is the pc's monitor. My experiences are purely based on viewing at a non HDTV. Tomorrow, if I have time, i will connect the dual atom pc, by VGA, to the Sammy and see how it goes at 1024x768 and 1920x1080 resolution playing a 720p and 1080p video.  If ever it plays well with the Sammy, I think it will play well with the PV80, and the setup could might as well be a very cheap HTPC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 10, 2009 at 03:28 AM
guys question, what would you prefer for an OS? a VISTA or should I stick with XP? anong mas convenient and effective to install?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 10, 2009 at 09:28 AM

Congrats bro! nakuha mo na pala ito sa TPC.. musta naman.. nasetup mo na?
yuff .. on the day i got it ..
i had to "extend" the 4pin processor 12v though .. :D

I got it from HD-bits, the EDGE release.  Pro version daw  ;)  It's clean based on comments from those who DL'd previously and when I tried, ok naman ang keygen and the installer unlike other apps where Norton or McAfee or Interscan deletes them.   I can email you the installer if you want.  It's only about 1.15MB.   Keygen would probably be blocked automatically because it's a marked word, so I'd just generate myself in case.


bro ygpm  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 10, 2009 at 11:37 AM
For KMP

Right click, Options, Preferences or press F2

Under Filter Control/Decoder Usage, click Internal Video Decoder and uncheck H.264 and AVC1 tick boxes.

Click External Video Decoder, External Decoder Search, Add After Scan - then all installed external decoders will be listed in the window.  If CoreAVC is properly installed it will be detected and included in the list.  Press OK to close window.

Click External Video Decoder again then click the Down Arrow next to the H.264 Video box and select *CoreAVC Video Decoder.   Do the same operation on AVC1.   If you want to play around with the settings of CoreAVC, click the "C" next to the Down Arrow and the Filter Info will be displayed.  Close Preferences Window and that's it.

PS.  Mukhang ang ganda ng bagong beta ng KMP -ver. 1434



MPC

Right click, Options, External Filters, Add Filter.

Select CoreAVC, press OK, tick the Prefer box, press OK to close window and that's it. 

In case maraming ibang external codecs, disable or uninstall them.


Clondalkin- Thank you so much, my dual core PC can now play MKV files smoothly.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 10, 2009 at 07:00 PM
UPDATE: Dual Core Atom HTPC

What I will say may contradict what I have said recently about the Dual Core Atom as an HTPC  ;D.  I have just tested its capabilities with a Sammy 40A650 and I have to say, my findings are great.  My initial impression of an HTPC is a computer that has a very good video card, a very good audio hardware, and can play HD videos flawlessly and great fidelity, that is why, all the while, I was thinking that my dual core atom pc barely reaches an HTPC status.  After seeing what the dual core atom pc can do, I may not continue with my prospect for an athlon based HTPC.  What I have right now is good enough HTPC for me.  What I am saying is, if what you want is something that can play HD videos well enough, a dual core atom based HTPC will suffice. Small and cheap.

My opinion, if you are not that concerned with audio regarding TrueHD, DTS-HD and the like, and you can do without them, an HTPC at this price beats any NMT.  I spent around 11k and that already included a 640GB hdd and not to mention the added capability of upgrading codecs on the fly, using IE/Firefox when surfing the web, your choice of torrent client (uTorrent for me), NAS with discrimination (share only a folder or partition) and play games (like Warcraft III, though it sucks to play DOTA at a 40" screen, 'masyadong malaki'). If you have a hard drive lying around, cost goes down to 6.5k (D945GCLF2+2gigram+Casingw/PSU), that's just 800 more than a WD TV HD Media Player.

The PC is connected via VGA at 1920x1080 playing 720p and 1080p video (mkv) using media player classic with CoreAVC video decoder. Audio is connected via 3.5mm to 3.5mm jack plug to HTIB.

DISCLAIMER
I have to point out that I am not a videophile and/or an audiophile.  What is great for me may only be good for the enthusiasts.  Someone might buy the same PC and get disappointed and blame me.  As far as it concerns me, video playback was very smooth and great.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 10, 2009 at 08:02 PM
guys question, what would you prefer for an OS? a VISTA or should I stick with XP? anong mas convenient and effective to install?


mga sir pa-up lang po ng tanong ko ha..original kasi bibilhin ko eh and i just want to make sure that sulit yung ibabayad ko..thanks po.. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 10, 2009 at 09:12 PM
@air ween
My two cents, I'd go for XP. Pero if you decide to get the Vista, get the Home Premium, not the Home Basic.
Maraming kaartehan kasi ang Vista eh, although, you can turn them off. There are only a few things I like about the Vista over XP (like for example the Advance Cut/Copy function, Search function, and over all look). In the end, I'd go for XP. I have 3 computers, two are running XP and one is Vista.  The Vista has been with me for over a year now and still having problems with updates (minsan inde compatible). 

Pero I have read that may mga gadgets, especially for Home Theatre Viewing that plays around the Vista structure (Premium and Ultimate versions) like for example media extenders.  If you have those gadgets, like an XBOX 360, you may research on the benefits it could give you having a Vista. I don't know much about them though.

Pero as you may know, Windows 7 is coming out, earliest is July 09. If you are getting a secondary pc, you could play with the beta for a while before reformatting again and installing your original XP/Vista. They say the performance boost of Windows 7 is very clear and apparent.  As far as I know, officially released ang beta to the public.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 10, 2009 at 10:16 PM
@air ween
My two cents, I'd go for XP. Pero if you decide to get the Vista, get the Home Premium, not the Home Basic.
Maraming kaartehan kasi ang Vista eh, although, you can turn them off. There are only a few things I like about the Vista over XP (like for example the Advance Cut/Copy function, Search function, and over all look). In the end, I'd go for XP. I have 3 computers, two are running XP and one is Vista.  The Vista has been with me for over a year now and still having problems with updates (minsan inde compatible). 

Pero I have read that may mga gadgets, especially for Home Theatre Viewing that plays around the Vista structure (Premium and Ultimate versions) like for example media extenders.  If you have those gadgets, like an XBOX 360, you may research on the benefits it could give you having a Vista. I don't know much about them though.

Pero as you may know, Windows 7 is coming out, earliest is July 09. If you are getting a secondary pc, you could play with the beta for a while before reformatting again and installing your original XP/Vista. They say the performance boost of Windows 7 is very clear and apparent.  As far as I know, officially released ang beta to the public.

thanks for the tip bro.
pero di ko padin alam kung ano kukunin ko eh..  ???
also, should i get a jack sparrow version or an anti?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 11, 2009 at 09:16 AM
Fernando, favor please.  Could you try to DL and install the freeware called MediaInfo (maliit lang sya) and please post the detailed info of your 1080p file - please delete the title.  Just want to see the bitrates and encoding level.

Atom + CoreAVC capable of playing 1080p - that sounds very impressive to me.  Well CoreAVC 1.8.5 is truly effective so far but if it's likewise capable of making even Atom based desktops 1080p-capable at 1920x1080 settings, that's quite awesome indeed.  WHAT?   ;D ;D ;D

Please keep us updated on your Atom.  Thanks!

I'd have to disagree with you on the OS though.  XP is very matured while Vista may still have some growing up pains, but Vista is fine on a capable machine, especially in terms of its multimedia functionality.   Dumb reasoning perhaps but I feel rather "restrained" with the thought of installing a discontinued though reliable 8 year old OS on a 2009 PC.  Dont you think the XP is already "boring"? 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 11, 2009 at 10:31 AM
@air ween
My two cents, I'd go for XP. Pero if you decide to get the Vista, get the Home Premium, not the Home Basic.
Maraming kaartehan kasi ang Vista eh, although, you can turn them off. There are only a few things I like about the Vista over XP (like for example the Advance Cut/Copy function, Search function, and over all look). In the end, I'd go for XP. I have 3 computers, two are running XP and one is Vista.  The Vista has been with me for over a year now and still having problems with updates (minsan inde compatible). 
trust me bro xp has updates issues too, and repercussion are far worse than having a vista operating system.   :D
do you remeber using xp when it was only 2-3 years old?   ;D ;D

btw please update us with your atom testing  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Clondalkin- Thank you so much, my dual core PC can now play MKV files smoothly.  ;) ;D

Most efficient codec at the moment.  Pati retired P4 ng friend ko na-resurrect somehow.   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 11, 2009 at 11:59 AM
so its 2:1 in favor of Vista.. :)
isa nalang vote at lalarga na.. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 11, 2009 at 12:11 PM
so its 2:1 in favor of Vista.. :)
isa nalang vote at lalarga na.. ;)

Kung meron ka nang licensed XP beforehand, sempre it's practical to use it.  pero kung bibili ka rin lang ng bagong OS for your new PC, mag Vista ka na.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 11, 2009 at 12:38 PM
The thing is, XP never gave me a problem when it comes to everyday computing.  With my Vista (Home Basic) PC, like before, even installing small programs like a specialized scientific calculator, Vista gave me a problem.  Also, I've been to so many Microsoft forums already pero hindi ko pa rin mahanap yung conflict with my Vista PC, it won't let me upgrade to Service Pack 1.  But I have to agree with Clondalkin, XP is boring  ;D.  There was a time when I tried to fix XP up so that it will have some aesthetics and functionalities incorporated from Vista.  Also the discontinued part, yes, XP is old.  Come to think of it, sir ninjababez is right, when XP was still young, 2-3 years old, it had big problems as well, baka in my case, Vista will soon deliver a solution to my upgrading to SP1 problem.  Pero Windows 7 is just around the corner, baka the support for Vista will not be as lively and prioritized as what was given to XP.  For sure though, support for Vista will continue for a long time pero baka di ganun ka focus as compared to XP before.

@Clondalkin
When I get home, I'll try MediaInfo out.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 11, 2009 at 02:32 PM
Hi Fernando.  Got your PM and thanks a lot.  Based on the data generated by MediaInfo, I am absolutely impressed!!!

The first sample in particular was encoded to profile 5.1 at that video bitrate with DTS sound stream and yet kinaya ng Dual Core Atom without any problems??? - you've got to be kidding me Bro.  ;D ;D ;D  That's awesome!

Among the 3, the first one is the toughest file to render by kind of media player, the 3rd one the lightest.  Even then, I dont know what else to say about the capability of your Atom desktop.   ;D   It's unbelievable.

It's better not to think of MKV resolution in terms of resolution per se, but in terms of bitrate and encoding profile.   It's quite common that encodes use non-standard resolutions - compared to what are technically defined as 1080p or 720p resolutions.  Not a bother at all.  I guess encoders have technical reasons, difficulties or limitations that force them to "downscale" a 1080p encode to 1920x800 or a 720p encode to 1280x 548 in some cases.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 11, 2009 at 03:10 PM
Hi Fernando.  Got your PM and thanks a lot.  Based on the data generated by MediaInfo, I am absolutely impressed!!!

The first sample in particular was encoded to profile 5.1 at that video bitrate with DTS sound stream and yet kinaya ng Dual Core Atom without any problems??? - you've got to be kidding me Bro.  ;D ;D ;D  That's awesome!

Among the 3, the first one is the toughest file to render by kind of media player, the 3rd one the lightest.  Even then, I dont know what else to say about the capability of your Atom desktop.   ;D   It's unbelievable.
I think it really boils down to CoreAVC.  I was not able to play HD videos before on the atom pc before CoreAVC. My Codec Pack then and until now is the Combined Community Codec Pack but now, the CoreAVC steps in as the preferred video decoder when playing the HD videos.  Before CoreAVC, the sound was way ahead and the video was choppy.

It's better not to think of MKV resolution in terms of resolution per se, but in terms of bitrate and encoding profile.   It's quite common that encodes use non-standard resolutions - compared to what are technically defined as 1080p or 720p resolutions.  Not a bother at all.  I guess encoders have technical reasons, difficulties or limitations that force them to "downscale" a 1080p encode to 1920x800 or a 720p encode to 1280x 548 in some cases.
Oh... I thought that if it is 1080p, the video resolution should be 1920x1080.  When MediaInfo showed that the first video was 1920x800, I was thinking to myself, "Wait lang, mali ata ako, di ata 1080p yung pinanood ko ah, pero nakalagay sa file name 1080p", then I remembered that may black bars sa taas at baba when I watched.  So I thought that the video was not really 1080p. In the end, if it is 1080p, the video height is not necessarily 1080 pixels as 720p can have a smaller height as well, 528 pixels. Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: milken on Jan 11, 2009 at 05:15 PM
Actually the 1920x800 resolution file is still 1080p.  The encoders crop off the black bars at the top and bottom to save on file size.  You'll observe that 720p files have different resolution---some 1280x532, 1280x528, etc.---depending on how many pixels the black bars are in the source material.  A good encode should crop off so much pixels to trim the black bars; anything more is a bad encode.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 11, 2009 at 05:17 PM
I think it really boils down to CoreAVC.  I was not able to play HD videos before on the atom pc before CoreAVC. My Codec Pack then and until now is the Combined Community Codec Pack but now, the CoreAVC steps in as the preferred video decoder when playing the HD videos.  Before CoreAVC, the sound was way ahead and the video was choppy.
Oh... I thought that if it is 1080p, the video resolution should be 1920x1080.  When MediaInfo showed that the first video was 1920x800, I was thinking to myself, "Wait lang, mali ata ako, di ata 1080p yung pinanood ko ah, pero nakalagay sa file name 1080p", then I remembered that may black bars sa taas at baba when I watched.  So I thought that the video was not really 1080p. In the end, if it is 1080p, the video height is not necessarily 1080 pixels as 720p can have a smaller height as well, 528 pixels. Thanks  :)

CoreAVC 1.8.5 din nga ba?

Dont confuse the resolution to the "Aspect Ratio". Your first sample would not fit the 16:9 Sammy because it is cinematic.  Check mo yung MediaInfo and it show an aspect ratio of 2.40:1 which is much wider than 16:9 ( thats nearly 16:5) hence the black bars on top and bottom screen.  That narrow height of the video itself has 800 horizontal lines of resolution on paper.

The 2nd and the 3rd samples could fill the screen the screen because their aspect ratio is exactly 16:9.  Normally, short clips and TV seris ang meron exact 16:9 aspect ratio.

The last sample which is 720p is similar to the first one.  Aspect ratio is also 2.40:1 and that video has 528 horizontal lines of resolution.

Luv those top and bottom black bars.  Cinematic aspect ratio gives you the widest angle of view. No cropping on the sides.   :).  Dun din papunta ang HDTV.  Some of the latest Sony Vaio laptops with built-in BD players have screens wider than 16:9.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 11, 2009 at 05:30 PM
Actually the 1920x800 resolution file is still 1080p.  The encoders crop off the black bars at the top and bottom to save on file size.  You'll observe that 720p files have different resolution---some 1280x532, 1280x528, etc.---depending on how many pixels the black bars are in the source material.  A good encode should crop off so much pixels to trim the black bars; anything more is a bad encode.

Hi Milken.  You mean the resolution of the black bars are included in the source material?  Interesting, I never thought of that.  So in this case, the visible image itself has 800 horizontal lines of resolution on its height plus 280 horizontal lines of resolution consisting of blackness?   

or is like this?

If the video has wide aspect ratio, the black bars would have to be taller top and bottom?   Does that mean the visible image itself, considering linear spacing of horizontal lines of resolution, would have horizontal resolution of much less than 800?  ....in which case, the impression of a wide image as being higher definition than full screen is just an optical illusion? 

Alin ang tama?   Mukhang nalilito yata ako.     ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 12, 2009 at 01:38 AM
guys sorry medyo OT ha?

tanong ko lang, ung AOC 223VW 22inch LCD monitor ba is ok for playing 1080p videos? Yan kasi ung kasamang LCD monitor na binenta sakin ng officemate ko together with Quadcore q6600, GA-G31M-ES2L (MOBO), 2gb DDR2, Palit 1Gb 9600GT, HEC PSU 550W, External Samsung Multifunction DVD for 25k (tingin nyo mura na? 4 months na nagamit). It's maximum resolution is just 1680 x 900 with 700:1 contrast ratio (native)...

this pc will not actually be a full time HTPC since I am planning to buy a standalone media player but i am considering this one as my backup for viewing high def movies kapag nakatambay ako sa kwarto. My LCD TV kasi is situated at the living room area (dito ko ilalagay ung NMT, Egreat siguro). Pwede na ba sya mga master o wag ko ng kunin ung LCD monitor then mag shed ako ng 20k for the CPU only tapos bili ako separate LCD monitor with thesame size..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 12, 2009 at 07:55 AM
Pero Windows 7 is just around the corner, baka the support for Vista will not be as lively and prioritized as what was given to XP.  For sure though, support for Vista will continue for a long time pero baka di ganun ka focus as compared to XP before.
microsoft assured our end user that vista will still be supported, heck xp still is being supported as long as sp2 is installed.  if we do the math, end of support for windows 98 and windows Me ended around July 2006.  which means xp still has 3-4 years and vista around 7 or more.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 12, 2009 at 08:13 AM
guys sorry medyo OT ha?

tanong ko lang, ung AOC 223VW 22inch LCD monitor ba is ok for playing 1080p videos? Yan kasi ung kasamang LCD monitor na binenta sakin ng officemate ko together with Quadcore q6600, GA-G31M-ES2L (MOBO), 2gb DDR2, Palit 1Gb 9600GT, HEC PSU 550W, External Samsung Multifunction DVD for 25k (tingin nyo mura na? 4 months na nagamit). It's maximum resolution is just 1680 x 900 with 700:1 contrast ratio (native)...

this pc will not actually be a full time HTPC since I am planning to buy a standalone media player but i am considering this one as my backup for viewing high def movies kapag nakatambay ako sa kwarto. My LCD TV kasi is situated at the living room area (dito ko ilalagay ung NMT, Egreat siguro). Pwede na ba sya mga master o wag ko ng kunin ung LCD monitor then mag shed ako ng 20k for the CPU only tapos bili ako separate LCD monitor with thesame size..
get the whole package bro, its like getting a 22" for 5k. 
btw the resolution is Resolution is 1680x1050 according to AOC.COM (http://www.aocmonitorap.com/malaysia/lcd_monitor/223vw.php).  and the aspect ratio is 16:10 , which is common with 22" lcd monitors. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Have you guys tried Linux platform for your HTPCs? You can install it and it will just partition itself as a secondary OS so you can keep your Windows OS.  It has also an Elisa Media Center and codecs for HD files.  XBMC has a Linux version also.

I am just using this OS (Ubuntu and Linux Mint) for my PC downloader (P4 1.6Ghz) to minimize viruses, malware, and spyware but haven't tried it yet on a PC with higher specs.



 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 12, 2009 at 11:57 AM
get the whole package bro, its like getting a 22" for 5k. 
btw the resolution is Resolution is 1680x1050 according to AOC.COM (http://www.aocmonitorap.com/malaysia/lcd_monitor/223vw.php).  and the aspect ratio is 16:10 , which is common with 22" lcd monitors. 

but it will definitely play 1080p files, right?
anyway, may WD HD TV na kaya sa QLT bro?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 12, 2009 at 01:56 PM
but it will definitely play 1080p files, right?
anyway, may WD HD TV na kaya sa QLT bro?

Follow the given posted instructions above regarding the installation of coreavc 1.8.5 and KM Player, and you'll be able to play any MKV files.  ;) ;D
(even if it's not the quadcore being offered to you, but with your quadcore, maybe even with the regular codecs for HD, you'll be able to decode all 1080p files). ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 12, 2009 at 02:17 PM
Follow the given posted instructions above regarding the installation of coreavc 1.8.5 and KM Player, and you'll be able to play any MKV files.  ;) ;D
(even if it's not the quadcore being offered to you, but with your quadcore, maybe even with the regular codecs for HD, you'll be able to decode all 1080p files). ;D

salamat po sa inyong lahat.. ;)

bibilhin ko na ung CPU plus LCD monitor (25k), tapos window vista home premium (6000), NMT (20.5k) plus peripheral like 5.1 speaker system, sama nadin computer table..wtff, 60k plus din.. :-\

i guess i'll have to postpone my pursuit for the all new honda city.. :-\
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 12, 2009 at 02:32 PM
air ween- forget the NMT, that's the one you should postpone, you already have the HTPC,you'll probably end up not using it, or worst selling it at a loss. :P

Save the 20K for future HDD (they're cheap nowadays, stick to 500G which only costs 3K at PCXpress nowadyas, maybe 2.9K next week/month), you'll be needing a lot of them once you decide that you'd prefer MKV movies than the mostly preferred Axxo files. ;) ;D

Suggestions to save money and limit spending. ;D
1) Use the installed OS, only difference is that you cannot upgrade to SP3, but SP2 is much better, I've had problems installing some you know what games with SP3.  ;) ;D...now if that's a cracked version, you can always upgrade and install other security upgrades as long as you have the WAP killer, it's widely available in most XP support sites. ;)...save the 6K...buy only once your OS stops working. ;)

2) For peripherals, use the CDR-King products, they only have a low class name, but their products are at par with most of the branded ones we buy for twice the price. Case in point, I bought myself a wireless Logitech for my Acer, it bought me problems regarding my LAN and other USB functions,and worse only after 3 months the batteries went dead....so when my sons started to use my HTPC for their games, I bought a CDR-King keyboard and mouse(total cost around 280pesos), and since I installed it 2 months ago, it was able to withstand the rigorous beatings and poundings with every games played on the PC, and heck, as I visist CDR-King every now and then....even the CDR-King 5.1 sounds good enough,and it only costs around 1.8K. ;) ;D

3) Why buy a computer table,when you might have one at your house that's even more sturdier and better. You can save from 1.5K to 7K here.

4) Do not upgrade until you know what you want to do and work on your PC. Others upgrade just because they read or heard about it, evne for games, play it first, you might not want to stick to it, otherwise,you'll ebd up with a boosted part you don't need.

5) Lastly, use it,and use it well, since everyday constant usage will let you familiarize yourself with your PC,and you'll know whatever it is you can do with the specs of your machine,and from there you can start your tweaks only according to your needs: always remember, "the PC will work for you, not you working for your PC".

Now enjoy. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dyerds on Jan 12, 2009 at 02:53 PM
^
I agree with sir Alfie. Useless na yung isa sa kanila kapag pareho silang binili mo. Malamang yung NMT mo ang mawalan ng silbi kaya kung ako sa'yo bilhin mo na yung HTPC tapos bili ka extra hd. Good buy na yung binebenta sa'yo sa spec na sinasabi mo. Gusto mo benta mo rin yung AOC tapos bili ka ng mas malaking lcd.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dyerds on Jan 12, 2009 at 03:18 PM
Question about this CoreAVC, is this good only for Pentium? Because I'm using an AMD processor and I want to try this CoreAVC. Another thing. Ngayon ko lang 'to napansin, bakit nung nag-play ako sa MPC ng mkv lumabas yung black bar sa taas at baba ng screen tapos nung binuksan ko sa KMP walang lumabas? Mas gusto kasi yung may black bar and I also prefer using KMP more than MPC.  ;D  TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 12, 2009 at 03:25 PM
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Question about this CoreAVC, is this good only for Pentium?

My Acer X3200 is also AMD based, but it worked better on the MPC.(but I am not sure yet, if I corrupted my KMPlayer)

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bakit nung nag-play ako sa MPC ng mkv lumabas yung black bar sa taas at baba ng screen tapos nung binuksan ko sa KMP walang lumabas?

Kindly check your settings with your MPC and KMP.
You might have clicked the overscan in the KMP(most common) or the "stretch to", if not check the "retain aspect ratio".
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dyerds on Jan 12, 2009 at 03:52 PM

Kindly check your settings with your MPC and KMP.
You might have clicked the overscan in the KMP(most common) or the "stretch to", if not check the "retain aspect ratio".


Wala pa ring nangyayari.  ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 12, 2009 at 04:19 PM
Can someone tell me if the playback of MKV (Matroska) files really depends on CPU processing alone?
I kept on reading things about this and as far as I have gone, GPU processing only comes in if DXVA compliant yung system.  In which case, after reading the wiki about DXVA, there are many things you have to do and follow to make it work.  The whole DXVA thing looks to be too picky.  One wrong setting, or when a coded interferes, or there is a driver issue, the whole thing does not work.

The reason I ask is, if the answer to the question is yes, why does the Atom HTPC give out a better picture quality than my laptop?
I am quite certain that in both setup, DXVA is not being utilized due to the fact that they both do not meet the requirements.
At first, I did not really see a difference.  For me, playback was already great.  Anything that has a picture quality better than DVD is good enough for me.  I just started noticing the difference when my brother pointed it out.  "Oh... bat gumanda yung picture?".  As far as I know, my laptop has more processing power than the atom (C2D T7100 1.8Ghz against Atom 330 1.6Ghz).  Is it just that once the video can be played back smoothly, whatever your processing power is, it starts to depend on the settings na lang?  May threshold ba ang HD playback? (For example, parang kailangan mo ng isang litrong tubig (HD playback), tapos meron kang 1.5 na litrong lalagyan (Atom 330) tapos meron kang 2 litrong lalagyan (C2D), kahit ano sa dalawa gamitin mo, ok lang... no difference... ganun ba yun?  ???)

During video playback, both use the same version of MPC, same source material, same VGA cable...  I do know that when I play the video, and check the filters being used, may iba na wala sa isa pero both use CoreAVC Video Decoder. Is this the case? Sa settings and installed decoders na lang ba nagkakatalo?

I spent quite some time looking at the difference and the the Atom HTPC does give a better picture, pinaka apparent when I play a certain movie (I don't know if you can mention titles) with strong men from Sparta shouting ahoooo! ahoooo! There are scenes where there are pillars against the sun; with the laptop, the pillars are pure black, with the atom, the pillars are black with hints of being cylindrical in shape.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Jan 12, 2009 at 04:25 PM
My laptop is only dual core T2060 and it can play 1080p flawlessly. I think the problem is your player and codec settings. HTH ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 12, 2009 at 04:42 PM
My laptop is only dual core T2060 and it can play 1080p flawlessly. I think the problem is your player and codec settings. HTH ;)

Initially, both laptop and Atom HTPC can play HD content flawlessly as well. So you think that it is just the settings that makes the difference of picture quality between the laptop and htpc?  The laptop can also provide the details the atom htpc is showing.  The details are just lost behind the "software" installed? I'm also curious about the MKV playback relying on CPU processing alone.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Jan 12, 2009 at 04:56 PM
Picture Quality also depends on your hardware specifically LCD resolution and video card. Syempre sama mo na rin yun settings. I have seen some technical explanation requiring a dual processor for watching mkv (high def movies) and minimum processor specs. But can't remember. I'll try to find it and share the link here.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 12, 2009 at 05:29 PM
Picture Quality also depends on your hardware specifically LCD resolution and video card. Syempre sama mo na rin yun settings. I have seen some technical explanation requiring a dual processor for watching mkv (high def movies) and minimum processor specs. But can't remember. I'll try to find it and share the link here.

recommended (not minimum) for AMD variant is AMD 4200+ x2 for the processor.  and direct x9c capable video card.   ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 12, 2009 at 06:01 PM
Any on-board graphics is the minimum requirements for HD video mkv files as the GPU is not used and they are purely CPU. I keep on seeing this line or something similar.  And some even state that for an HTPC, you don't need to buy a video card if the motherboard has built in graphics acceleration (A different story if you are also using it for gaming, then, you'll have to buy a video card). Is this true?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 12, 2009 at 06:37 PM
Wala pa ring nangyayari.  ???

KMP/ Screen Controls/ - play around with various aspect ratio settings until you find the size of black bars you like the best.   You can even specify your own (custom) aspect ratio  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 12, 2009 at 06:47 PM
Fernando please post detailed connections between your laptop and your ATOM.  Are you watching using the laptop's own screen or externally through the same monitor/CRT/HDTV connected to the ATOM?

What are the graphics card engine of the laptop and ATOM respectively, and what are the display settings? 

In my case, my desktops connected to a monitor always produce better looking image than any of my laptops connected externally to the same monitor.  I attribute that to the inherent power of the graphics card - not their hardware acceleration feature.  Even between ATI and Nvidia cards at default settings, many people would swear, including myself, that ATI cards somehow produce better looking still and moving image without any tweaks.

Based on the net, you have to set the PC properly in order to take full advantage of DXVA compliance.   Consult with the member Momay as he has done that successfully.  I havent tried that but nonetheless, in my observation, DXVA compliant encodes seem to be much playable by a wider range of PC specs than non DXVA compliant without doing anything on the PC.   The WDTV has been tested succesfully on a 16GB DXVA Compliant 11mbps 1080p T.D.K.  That device could stutter on a much smaller 1080p file with inefficient or higher profile encoding.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 13, 2009 at 07:44 AM
Any on-board graphics is the minimum requirements for HD video mkv files as the GPU is not used and they are purely CPU. I keep on seeing this line or something similar.  And some even state that for an HTPC, you don't need to buy a video card if the motherboard has built in graphics acceleration (A different story if you are also using it for gaming, then, you'll have to buy a video card). Is this true?
that is because most builtin cards with dual core on them already has dx9c capability .. lolz 
and yes, youll need a discrete card for gaming, i prefer cards that ranges from 10k-15k.  i wont go over 15k for a video card  :D
twas a good thing i gave up pcgaming .. butas ang bulsa, pero yung pera mo nasa loob ng casing ..  :D



Clondalkin tried running all my hddvd 1080p, including band of brothers with coreavc and classic media player (kmplayer beta wont install on my system*prolly my installer*).. all of them ran "silky smooth" ..  :)
many thanks Clondalkin for the codec, now i can do a BOB marathon on my dayoff  :)

updates tomorrow if this does work on my core duo laptop with x4500hd vga..  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 13, 2009 at 08:04 AM
Ngayon ko lang 'to napansin, bakit nung nag-play ako sa MPC ng mkv lumabas yung black bar sa taas at baba ng screen tapos nung binuksan ko sa KMP walang lumabas? Mas gusto kasi yung may black bar and I also prefer using KMP more than MPC.  ;D  TIA

Mga Kapatid, may maka-ka-sagot ba kay Dyerds nito?

eto' ang sagot ko:
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Kindly check your settings with your MPC and KMP.
You might have clicked the overscan in the KMP(most common) or the "stretch to", if not check the "retain aspect ratio".

pero ito' ang sagot niya:
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Wala pa ring nangyayari. 

Paki-sagot naman sa mga naka-ka-alam, di' ako sanay sa KMPlayer eh' ka-kainstall ko palang last week, paki-sagot na-lang nang mga sanay sa KMPlayer.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 13, 2009 at 08:10 AM
Question about this CoreAVC, is this good only for Pentium? Because I'm using an AMD processor and I want to try this CoreAVC. Another thing. Ngayon ko lang 'to napansin, bakit nung nag-play ako sa MPC ng mkv lumabas yung black bar sa taas at baba ng screen tapos nung binuksan ko sa KMP walang lumabas? Mas gusto kasi yung may black bar and I also prefer using KMP more than MPC.  ;D  TIA
try alt+enter when playing; or hit the numlock 5 key, this should reset the settings to default  now if you really want the black bar, use alt+numlock 2 and/or alt+numlock 8 (for height adjustment) key then adjust it to your preferred aspect ..  ;)
if alt+xxx keys does not work, try the numkeys only  :)

i prefer stretched though  :D :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dyerds on Jan 13, 2009 at 09:37 AM
Got it! Thanks to all!  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 13, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Fernando please post detailed connections between your laptop and your ATOM.  Are you watching using the laptop's own screen or externally through the same monitor/CRT/HDTV connected to the ATOM?

What are the graphics card engine of the laptop and ATOM respectively, and what are the display settings? 

Both PCs use the same VGA cable (w/ ferrite cores at both ends).  Pinagpapalit palit lang during comparisons.  Both are connected to the same Sammy TV. Same TV settings are used.

Intel Chipset Identification Utility
Atom:   Intel(R) 82945G/GZ Express Chipset Family
Laptop: Intel(R) 965GM Graphics And Memory Controller Hub(GMCH)

I don't know which one is better but the laptop has a higher number...  ;D
And if the laptop's integrated graphics is indeed better, why the lower PQ?
And if MKV playback is CPU based, the laptop has a better and more powerful processor, why still the lower PQ?

During comparisons, the laptop's power is connected to the AC and is at "High Performance" mode.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 13, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Got it! Thanks to all!  :)
if that does not work though, you could try windows media player .. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 13, 2009 at 12:37 PM
ninjabaez-kailangan rin' ba na i-reconfigure ang coreavc 1.8.5 sa windows media player?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 13, 2009 at 12:42 PM
ninjabaez-kailangan rin' ba na i-reconfigure ang coreavc 1.8.5 sa windows media player?
IIRC wmp automatically searches for the right codec .. if you have other codecs/player though aside from core and kmplayer, then you might encounter some issues.  you can give it a try since wmp is preinstalled anyways  :D

ill create a system restore later cause im planning to install xbmc  .. :)  (mas maganda ba talaga ang mediaportal?)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: milken on Jan 13, 2009 at 01:07 PM
Hi Milken.  You mean the resolution of the black bars are included in the source material?  Interesting, I never thought of that.  So in this case, the visible image itself has 800 horizontal lines of resolution on its height plus 280 horizontal lines of resolution consisting of blackness?   

or is like this?

If the video has wide aspect ratio, the black bars would have to be taller top and bottom?   Does that mean the visible image itself, considering linear spacing of horizontal lines of resolution, would have horizontal resolution of much less than 800?  ....in which case, the impression of a wide image as being higher definition than full screen is just an optical illusion? 

Alin ang tama?   Mukhang nalilito yata ako.     ;D ;D ;D


The display aspect ratio of Bluray is constant at 1920x1080, just like DVD is 720x480 (NTSC) and 720x576 (PAL).  However, the original film may have a smaller aspect ratio (2.40:1, 1.85:1, 4:3, etc ) than 16:9/1.78:1. So, to fit the film to Bluray, the studios add black bars to make it 16:9.  Thus, encoders crop off the black bars to get a smaller filesize and dedicate the bitrate to the actual picture of the movie.  Anyway, MPC automatically adds black bars when you watch it.

For example, a 2.40:1 mkv film has a resolution of 1920x800 pixels with those extra 280 lines of black bars removed since they don’t contain any information. 

TDK is a unique film wherein there are 2 aspect ratios:  16:9 or 1.78:1 for the IMAX scenes and 2.40:1 for the rest of the movies.  But the rips have a fixed aspect ratio of 1920x1080 to capture the entire movie regardless of the changing aspect ratio throughout the movie. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 13, 2009 at 01:35 PM
Ninjababez, dont you find WMP the least efficient (sluggiest) compared with KMP and MPC?  Parang talagang pang Axxo and DVD lang sya.   :)

I havent compared the CPU resource usage but I've always found MPC to be the smoothest in terms of rendering 1080p MKVs.  Before I installed CoreAVC, there were 1080p titles that only MPC could play without any synch issues.

With CoreAVC, both MPC and KMP are now capable of handling anything MKV, although I would guess that MPC is still the more efficient player.  KMP's interface, available tweaks, subtitle control, and especially sound quality are way better though.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 13, 2009 at 02:04 PM
Both PCs use the same VGA cable (w/ ferrite cores at both ends).  Pinagpapalit palit lang during comparisons.  Both are connected to the same Sammy TV. Same TV settings are used.

Intel Chipset Identification Utility
Atom:   Intel(R) 82945G/GZ Express Chipset Family
Laptop: Intel(R) 965GM Graphics And Memory Controller Hub(GMCH)

I don't know which one is better but the laptop has a higher number...  ;D
And if the laptop's integrated graphics is indeed better, why the lower PQ?
And if MKV playback is CPU based, the laptop has a better and more powerful processor, why still the lower PQ?

During comparisons, the laptop's power is connected to the AC and is at "High Performance" mode.

Cant compare the number in a straightforward manner because one is for desktop and the other one for laptop.

I would infer that the basic image rendering engine of your Atom's built-in graphics board is superior to that of your laptop - which is usually the case anyway - even though not necessarily more poweful for other graphics applications like say 3D gaming or rendering.   Saan mas mabilis ang framerate when you do 3D gaming?   Faster 3D framerate does not translate to better video as well.  Dalawang categories yon usually diba - the 3D engine and the video engine.

Now if the PC can somehow be configured to take full advantage of hardware acceleration during MKV playback, just maybe the PQ would improve in favor of the more powerful card - but I have seen very fast and badass graphics cards in terms of 3D applications, yet relatively inferior in terms of video quality - the Nvidia 8800 for instance.

In my observation, the procesing power of the CPU allows for smoother playback of the 1080p MKV, but the one with better video engine looks better.   For instance, I have 2 laptops 2 years apart.  Both can play 720p files but one is hopeless with 1080p because of older CPU.  However, because the older one has high quality graphics card for laptop, the PQ of its 720p playback is evidently better than the one with newer CPU that has on-board graphics.





Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 13, 2009 at 02:35 PM
Ninjababez, dont you find WMP the least efficient (sluggiest) compared with KMP and MPC?  Parang talagang pang Axxo and DVD lang sya.   :)
I havent compared the CPU resource usage but I've always found MPC to be the smoothest in terms of rendering 1080p MKVs.  Before I installed CoreAVC, there were 1080p titles that only MPC could play without any synch issues.
With CoreAVC, both MPC and KMP are now capable of handling anything MKV, although I would guess that MPC is still the more efficient player.  KMP's interface, available tweaks, subtitle control, and especially sound quality are way better though.
i agree with all you said bro, and kmplayer has been my all around player until BOB and some recently copied 1080p hddvd r*pped mkv files.
having that said when i reinstalled windows and kmplayer, kmplayer wont seem to load properly (including the beta version) .. so i decided to use mpc for now.  :)
i will be reinstalling kmplayer very soon, its just that i dont have time to tweak my system   :)  (had to fix the apartment first) :D :D
unless ofcourse i receive another email from you containing a zipped kmplayer installer that youre using .. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 13, 2009 at 02:45 PM
and btw bro Clondalkin the only reason why i suggested wmp is because, its the only player that you cant alter the aspect ratio (less tweaks)  :)
i just had this feeling that our friends here are used to ctrl+enter/alt+enter when they view movies .. which would definitely stretch the video output .. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 13, 2009 at 03:04 PM
unless ofcourse i receive another email from you containing a zipped kmplayer installer that youre using .. ;D ;D

Over 10MB kahit i-zip using the Windows built-in function.  12MB yung installer.  Can you suggest any good file compression utility that would make it less than 10MB?   BTW, freeware ang KMP so legal to ne.   ;D

I think you're one of the HTPC users who give the impression to other members that there are so many tweaks required on a PC - more than what a normal user would actually need.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dyerds on Jan 13, 2009 at 04:23 PM
and btw bro Clondalkin the only reason why i suggested wmp is because, its the only player that you cant alter the aspect ratio (less tweaks)  :)
i just had this feeling that our friends here are used to ctrl+enter/alt+enter when they view movies .. which would definitely stretch the video output .. :)

I don't really use alt+enter or any controls when playing MKV. I  just leave it to my players (KMP or MPC) to do their job. You know, I'm really lazy doing any tweaking.  ;D That's why it is really a big help that you guys (masters or should I say, someone who has the patience and time to tweak it)  ;D are here.

Btw, what's the difference between beta and the old KMP? What is the significant improvement? TIA  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 13, 2009 at 05:07 PM
Btw, what's the difference between beta and the old KMP? What is the significant improvement? TIA  :)

Pogi yung latest beta (ver. 1434) compared to the last stable version na 1428 and mukhang pedeng mag-DL and associate ng cover art (havent tried that though).  Sigificant improvement or not, who knows?  Mukhang dumami yata ang manual tweaks on the PQ and AQ.  You can easily bring out the equalizer window.   But basic functions remain the same.   No harm in trying.    ;)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 13, 2009 at 09:20 PM
@clondalkin

sir nagpm po me sa inyo... pa help po...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 13, 2009 at 11:56 PM
@clondalkin

sir nagpm po me sa inyo... pa help po...

Your PC is up and running already so just DL and install, KMP Ver 1428 or higher, Media Player Classic, CoreAVC1.8.5 and AC3 Filter.   The instructions on how to set-up CoreAVC within KMP and MPC are already posted above.  KMP, MPC and AC3filter installations are just straightforward.

Get rid of the other codecs for the time being, divx, xvid, cccp - tanggalin mo lahat completely.   In case you want to use Windows Media Player for avi stuff, just DL and install the latest FFDshow - yun pinakamaganda PQ and AQ for AVI.   Keep the codecs at a minimum and your system tidy instead of installing packs and too many codecs.  To summarizAe ulit,  dalawang video codec lang recommendation ko - CoreAVC for KMP and MPC, FFDshow for WMP.  Then for audio, you need AC3filter para supported ang 5.1 channel encodes.    Tanggalin mo na rin yung VLC dahil di maganda and PQ nun.

Pag-ipunan mo ATI card (HD36xx, 3800xx, 46xx, 48xx - depende sa budget mo ang gaming needs).  You need a good card to drive the 32LG50 nicely at full HD settings. 

Naka XP ka naman so ok lang ang 2GB RAM.   But pag-ipunan mo pa rin to make it 4GB.

You need high def contents.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 14, 2009 at 07:34 AM
yeah cleanup the unnecessary codecs .. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jerix on Jan 14, 2009 at 04:19 PM
M not techy on computers and reading discussions here is adding more confusions.  ::) So considering issues on different hardware components, what could be the best components for a real smooth playing  HTPC now? would a budget of 15k enough? TY po ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 14, 2009 at 04:53 PM
Jerix- for 15K sobra na iyun'....may naka-bou na nang 11K gamit ay dual core Atom....pero kung ako ang tatanogin mo, kahit AMD 64X2 5000 ay pasok parin sa 15K mo, kaya lang pag pinasok mo ito' ang mangya-yari,baka maging, upgrade ka na nang upgrade.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 14, 2009 at 08:35 PM
Jerix- for 15K sobra na iyun'....may naka-bou na nang 11K gamit ay dual core Atom....pero kung ako ang tatanogin mo, kahit AMD 64X2 5000 ay pasok parin sa 15K mo, kaya lang pag pinasok mo ito' ang mangya-yari,baka maging, upgrade ka na nang upgrade.

Yun ang problema sa HTPC sobrang daming tweaks and upgrades nakakaloko at magastos. Pag gusto mong straightforward player lang na wala ka ng iisiping upgrade o gastos...meron namang NMT. Libre naman ang firmware.   :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dyerds on Jan 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Yun ang problema sa HTPC sobrang daming tweaks and upgrades nakakaloko at magastos. Pag gusto mong straightforward player lang na wala ka ng iisiping upgrade o gastos...meron namang NMT. Libre naman ang firmware.   :D

Totoo yan.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jerix on Jan 15, 2009 at 07:51 AM
Doc alfie, Doc Mel TY for your insights -- Actually m trying to justify HTPC over NMT because of my video editing requirements din and even the so called "wife factor," kasi mas accept nya yung PC kesa another unknown player sa bahay. I know both of you are HTPC users and do you think using HTPC presents lesser prblems than the NMT in terms of HD file playing, or the other way around?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 15, 2009 at 08:14 AM
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do you think using HTPC presents lesser prblems than the NMT in terms of HD file playing, or the other way around?

Yes...HTPC is future proof, unlike the NMT, since the MoBo is limited, expect limited firmware update.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM
@clondalkin

sir thnx po sa advice cleanup na pala ako ng mga codecs dito hehehe nasanay kasi ako sa vlc.. anyway gawin ko nga ito and test if ok thnks po ulit sa advice...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM
If you are going to build a new PC for NLE, then it should be more than capable of trouble-free MKV and even original high def disk playback since NLE is one of the most CPU resource intensive applications.   Thus, you might as well consider upping your budget above 15K and hit all your relevant applications and functions.

What the recent discussions have achieved is to reduce the minimum hardware requirements for 1080p MKV capable PC due to efficient codecs.  I still cant believe that a Dual Core Atom powered desktop can render 1080p smoothly, but that's what Fernando Montalban reports.  So unless someone disproves his claim, I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.  Nevertheless, I would still aim for a Core 2 Duo or equivalent AMD as minimum in case I'm going to build or buy a new PC.  My approach would be to maximize the budget allocation on the CPU and squeeze on other components.  The more spare juice your system has, the less the merit to upgrade (or replace) so soon, unless you're a real hardcore gamer.  

If you are adept on NLE, then high def playback through a PC is just like a push of a few buttons once the codecs and software players are properly installed.  The installation process per se are not at all complicated.   Dont touch the system after you've set-up correctly and you would likely not need to tweak anything again until the files heavier than 1080p arrives.

Nakakaloko lang ang PC once you get overly curious about what it can do, but for the most part, that is the fun and educational part kase you'd surely read a lot of stuff about interesting things you can try with your PC, free or otherwise.  Isama mo na yung updates of codecs and software players.    At least upgrading the codecs and players is not as risky as firmware updates of NMTs.    In any case, I can appreciate the convenience of an NMT especially in multi-user, multi-TV, multi-room environmment.  However spending around 10-14K for a device that is practically good for hd playback alone makes me think twice.  

 

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 15, 2009 at 05:57 PM
Pati playing HD files on Linux pinapatulan ko na nga eh. Wala pakong mapost kasi pinag-aaralan ko pa.  Codecs for HD files meron naman. 

Pwede iinstall yung Ubuntu with Windows.  Dual boot ka on start up.  So you can tinker and toy around with the OS.  Maganda dyan, pagboot install mo nang ubuntu, sya na gagawa ng sarili nyang partition automatically para paginstalled na sya at reboot ka ulit, nandun na ang boot menu for the 2 OS.  Pili ka nalang kung ano ang gagamitin mo. 

Plan to use:

VLC Media Player (http://www.videolan.org/)
Elisa Media Center (http://elisa.fluendo.com/)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 15, 2009 at 11:07 PM
It's very very nice talaga to ready post here. Napakagagaling ng mga masters. Parang mga walking encyclopedias.  ;)

Anyway po, I've got one question po uli. My computer PSU has a 550W load capacity. Is it alright and safe to plug it to a 500VA AVR? Kahit mas mababa ang rating? Napakamamahal kasi ng mga AVR ngayon and I already bought 2, one for our living room, the other for my other desktop situated near our kitchen. My new CPU is to be installed inside my room. I'm planning to use the 500VA AVR so as to cut expenses since I'm also considering to buy a 5.1 speaker.

So ok lang kaya yun mga master?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 16, 2009 at 02:06 AM
It's very very nice talaga to read post here. Napakagagaling ng mga masters. Parang mga walking encyclopedias.  ;)

Anyway po, I've got one question po uli. My computer PSU has a 550W load capacity. Is it alright and safe to plug it to a 500VA AVR? Kahit mas mababa ang rating? Napakamamahal kasi ng mga AVR ngayon and I already bought 2, one for our living room, the other for my other desktop situated near our kitchen. My new CPU is to be installed inside my room. I'm planning to use the 500VA AVR so as to cut expenses since I'm also considering to buy a 5.1 speaker.

So ok lang kaya yun mga master?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 16, 2009 at 03:14 AM

What the recent discussions have achieved is to reduce the minimum hardware requirements for 1080p MKV capable PC due to efficient codecs.  I still cant believe that a Dual Core Atom powered desktop can render 1080p smoothly, but that's what Fernando Montalban reports.  So unless someone disproves his claim, I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. 

i can confirm this by next week, ill drop by villman this weekend to test this on their display unit  :)
btw my 2nd (backup) htpc CQ40-310AU (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/CQ40-310AU)  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 16, 2009 at 03:18 AM
It's very very nice talaga to ready post here. Napakagagaling ng mga masters. Parang mga walking encyclopedias.  ;)

Anyway po, I've got one question po uli. My computer PSU has a 550W load capacity. Is it alright and safe to plug it to a 500VA AVR? Kahit mas mababa ang rating? Napakamamahal kasi ng mga AVR ngayon and I already bought 2, one for our living room, the other for my other desktop situated near our kitchen. My new CPU is to be installed inside my room. I'm planning to use the 500VA AVR so as to cut expenses since I'm also considering to buy a 5.1 speaker.

So ok lang kaya yun mga master?
it should run just fine, considering that your pc wont go over 500 watts anyway.
if youre using a branded/reliable power supply then you dont need that avr anymore.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Jan 16, 2009 at 04:58 AM
it should run just fine, considering that your pc wont go over 500 watts anyway.
if youre using a branded/reliable power supply then you dont need that avr anymore.  ;)

UPS nalang ikabit ko..:)
Thanks for the reply Sir..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 16, 2009 at 08:05 AM
May murang AVR sa PCXpress. 750watts(iyun' ang sabi nila), ang ganda nang porma, iMaster ang tatak.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: thesaint on Jan 16, 2009 at 08:13 AM
recommend nyong UPS? quality at budget.
nasiraan kasi ako ng intertal HDD dahil sa brown out eh!
nakakadala na...i/o error na yung hdd. nandun pa naman lahat ng
tv series na divx ko...400gig yung nasira...

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: milken on Jan 16, 2009 at 09:22 AM
recommend nyong UPS? quality at budget.
nasiraan kasi ako ng intertal HDD dahil sa brown out eh!
nakakadala na...i/o error na yung hdd. nandun pa naman lahat ng
tv series na divx ko...400gig yung nasira...

APC is a good and reliable brand.  APC Back UPS-ES 500VA - P2,200.00 lang sa Rsun.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 16, 2009 at 01:11 PM
Ako, gamit ko lang ay iyun' mga generic 750Watts na-i-binebenta nang PCXpress, so far mas OK siya kaysa sa mga ping-da-anan kong mga APC(pero buhay pa nga pala sila) kasi madali silang ibili nang baterya at palitan at minsan pag luma na ang baterya nang APC,bigla na lang nama-matay, walang warnig warning. >:( ;) ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: milken on Jan 16, 2009 at 01:31 PM
Actually kung gusto nyo makamura, just buy a pre-owned APC UPS but brand new battery.  http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2705947 (http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2705947)

Ang battery usually nasisira kapag matagal na.  My APC UPS outlived my Ablerex and Powercom UPS..kaya ko nasabi ok sakin APC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 16, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Actually kung gusto nyo makamura, just buy a pre-owned APC UPS but brand new battery.  http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2705947 (http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2705947)

Ang battery usually nasisira kapag matagal na.  My APC UPS outlived my Ablerex and Powercom UPS..kaya ko nasabi ok sakin APC.

ive heard some bad feebacks about Ablerex ups .. i cant confirm though, cause it might be a "user" error .. :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 17, 2009 at 04:21 PM
Cant compare the number in a straightforward manner because one is for desktop and the other one for laptop.

I would infer that the basic image rendering engine of your Atom's built-in graphics board is superior to that of your laptop - which is usually the case anyway - even though not necessarily more poweful for other graphics applications like say 3D gaming or rendering.   Saan mas mabilis ang framerate when you do 3D gaming?   Faster 3D framerate does not translate to better video as well.  Dalawang categories yon usually diba - the 3D engine and the video engine.
:) I figured that comparing the numbers can't be done ng basta basta na lang... kung sakali lang na ganun... hehe
Sorry, I don't know how to get the framerate when you play 3D games.  Although the only 3D game I play is Warcraft III (DOTA).
In the end, I just have to be happy that the picture quality went up when I replaced my laptop with the Atom.
@Clondalkin
Thanks for getting me interested to audition my Atom to become my main HTPC.  It now resides semi-permanently beside my Sammy TV.  ;D

@all/everyone
I was following the advice of Clondalkin and ninjababez about cleaning up and removing unnecessary codecs.  Everything was pretty much straightforward until I came across the Haali Media Splitter.  Can someone tell me what it is?

All I know is the consequence of removing it or disabling it, that is, my Atom HTPC can no longer play 1080p MKVs.  It can still play 720p if the Haali Media Splitter disabled though.

I settled with the Combined Community Codec Pack (2008-09-21) with the option for H.264/AVC FFDShow Video Decoders disabled and CoreAVC 1.8.5 with option for preferred decoder enabled.  And Media Player Classic Homecinema 1.796.0
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fredmontano on Jan 17, 2009 at 11:05 PM
@ fernando

Have you tried connecting your atom rig to to a TV via Svideo to Rca convertor? Cuz my 21 inch tv have no s-video outputs it only has a single RCA jack for video in connection  :-[

I agree that the Atom can really play 1080p .h264 ripped videos but with Blue ray Cds I have second thoughts about it. Dual core atom has the muscle to decode 1080p provided it is used with an efficient codec like coreavc. Single core atom or the Little Falls can decode also .h264 movies but up to 720p only.

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 18, 2009 at 08:32 AM
@ fernando

Have you tried connecting your atom rig to to a TV via Svideo to Rca convertor? Cuz my 21 inch tv have no s-video outputs it only has a single RCA jack for video in connection  :-[

I've tried it before and Yes, it does work.  As far as I can remember though, it will only allow you to set it at a low resolution, I believe it is 1024x768.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fredmontano on Jan 18, 2009 at 11:33 AM
@fernando

But the quality that I will be getting from xvid videos like TV shows downloaded from the net or some .h2644 movies when being watched on the TV via the s-video out will mostly be the same as watching it through the VGA out? I mean the video will not get blurred or degraded. Still DVD quality?

Thanks. Cuz I am more likely considering to build an Atom 330 rig as my HTPC rather than to buy a NMT. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 18, 2009 at 01:11 PM
@fernando

But the quality that I will be getting from xvid videos like TV shows downloaded from the net or some .h2644 movies when being watched on the TV via the s-video out will mostly be the same as watching it through the VGA out? I mean the video will not get blurred or degraded. Still DVD quality?

Thanks. Cuz I am more likely considering to build an Atom 330 rig as my HTPC rather than to buy a NMT. 

Yes, the video will still be good.  Actually, I originally built my Atom 330 PC primarily for SD playback only.  It was originally connected to my CRT TV by S-Video to RCA cable up until I got the Sammy.  I watch a lot of TV Shows (Entourage, Gossip Girl, OTH, Heroes, HIMYM, Big Bang Theory, Chuck, Fringe, House M.D., CSI:NY, Private Practice, The Office, Grey's Anatomy, Kyle XY, 30 Rock, American Chopper, Californication, Mythbusters, SNL, American Idol and Top Gear) and all are set to download automatically by RSS feed whenever a new episode comes out.  Of course, because there are a lot of them, I do not get the HD versions of each.  This was also the reason that I never tried to get an NMT.  Although, NMTs have torrent support, the flexibility that a standalone torrent client like uTorrent can not be matched not to mention the tweaks you can do.  It was only until I found CoreAVC that I purchased a separate 1TB hard drive for HD videos and started using the Atom for HD playback as well.

UPDATE on Dual Core Atom PC
Most of the 1080p videos that I have watched have video bitrates of 10-11Mbps. I tried playing a video encoded at 33.1Mbps and the video stuttered.  I guess it's too much for the atom already.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 19, 2009 at 10:17 AM
here's mine:

AMD Athlon X2 5000+ Processor w/ HSF
Asustek M3N78-VM Motherboard
Integrated Nvidia GeForce 8200 GPU (256MB shared memory)
Hybrid SLI Support (Windows Vista)
HDMI (up to 1080p), DVI and D-Sub Video Connectors
VT1708B 8 -Channel High Definition Audio CODEC  w/ Optical Out
External SATA (E-SATA) Support
NVIDIA nForce built-in Gigabit MAC with external RTL8211CL-GR
Team Elite 4GB DDR2 800 Memory Module w/ Heat Spreader
Western Digital 640GB SATA-2 Hard Disk Drive
Icute QS02-BB Slim ATX Case w/ 500W PSU
Lite-on 20X SATA DVDRW W/ Lightscribe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 19, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Sige umpisahan ko na.....

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/PinoyDVD/DSCN0060-1.jpg)

Specs:

ASUS M3N78-VM w/ HDMI
Athlon X2 5000
Creative Audigy Value Soundcard
Kingston 2GB DDR2 800
ASUS DVD Writer
Seagate 160GB Internal HDD
Seagate 500GB External HDD
WD Essentials 1 Terabyte External HDD
I-cute QS02 casing
Multi-card reader
500 watts powersupply

Doc, pareho pala tayo ng mobo, naka kabit ba sa full-HD LCD ung HTPC mo? pansin ko kasi sobrang sharp sya sa desktop pag HDMI, although panalo sya sa pag movies na using Media Center.  Ok ung kulay desktop pag naka VGA cable lang. Any suggestions? ???

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 19, 2009 at 10:23 AM

UPDATE on Dual Core Atom PC
Most of the 1080p videos that I have watched have video bitrates of 10-11Mbps. I tried playing a video encoded at 33.1Mbps and the video stuttered.  I guess it's too much for the atom already.

You need a discrete graphics card to play that kind of content, then enable hardware acceleration through the player and/or the graphics control settings.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: doughn on Jan 19, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Yun ang problema sa HTPC sobrang daming tweaks and upgrades nakakaloko at magastos. Pag gusto mong straightforward player lang na wala ka ng iisiping upgrade o gastos...meron namang NMT. Libre naman ang firmware.   :D

+100%  agree
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Doc, pareho pala tayo ng mobo, naka kabit ba sa full-HD LCD ung HTPC mo? pansin ko kasi sobrang sharp sya sa desktop pag HDMI, although panalo sya sa pag movies na using Media Center.  Ok ung kulay desktop pag naka VGA cable lang. Any suggestions? ???

what do you mean by sobrang sharp?
can you post some images of it compared to a not so sharp?  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 19, 2009 at 01:04 PM
what do you mean by sobrang sharp?
can you post some images of it compared to a not so sharp?  :)

Maybe he meant the sharpness level is so high that it's an eyesore to read texts, or the texts look too much edge enhanced.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 19, 2009 at 01:41 PM
what do you mean by sobrang sharp?
can you post some images of it compared to a not so sharp?  :)

sharp and grainy sya compared pag naka VGA cable. at hindi soft ung mga edges. pero ok naman sya pag nasa windows media center. I've tried almost all the settings sa tv at resolution sa pc. Maganda ang resolution ng desktop pag VGA, pero pag watching movies sa media center, mas ok ung HDMI. :-\

Btw, pano malalgayan ng thumbnail at info ang mga MKV movies? ;D Thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 19, 2009 at 02:04 PM
sharp and grainy sya compared pag naka VGA cable. at hindi soft ung mga edges. pero ok naman sya pag nasa windows media center. I've tried almost all the settings sa tv at resolution sa pc. Maganda ang resolution ng desktop pag VGA, pero pag watching movies sa media center, mas ok ung HDMI. :-\

Btw, pano malalgayan ng thumbnail at info ang mga MKV movies? ;D Thanks! ;D

for the text, you can adjust the dpi/fonts settings ..
for the noise .. you can adjust if thru your video cards software   ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 19, 2009 at 03:01 PM
for the text, you can adjust the dpi/fonts settings ..
for the noise .. you can adjust if thru your video cards software   ;)
yup, done that :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 19, 2009 at 06:16 PM
Has anyone tried this hd video converter with their PC?

http://www.xilisoft.com/hd-video-converter.html


Input File Format Support

AVI, MPEG, WMV, MP4, FLV, MKV, H.264/MPEG-4, DivX, XviD, MOV, RM, RMVB, M4V, VOB, ASF, 3GP, 3G2, SWF, H.261, H.264, DV, DIF, MJPG, MJPEG, DVR-MS, NUT, QT, YUV, DAT, MPV, NSV
AVCHD Video (*.mts, *.m2ts), H.264/MPEG-4 AVC (*.mp4), MPEG2 HD Video (*.mpg; *.mpeg), MPEG-4 TS HD Video (*.ts), MPEG-2 TS HD Video (*.ts), Quick Time HD Video (*.mov), WMV HD Video (*.xwmv), Audio-Video Interleaved HD Video (*.avi)


Output File Format Support

AVI, MPEG, WMV, MP4, FLV, H.264/MPEG-4, DivX, XviD, MOV, RMVB, ASF, 3GP, 3G2, SWF, VOB, TS
H.264/MPEG-4 AVC (*.mp4), MPEG2 HD Video (*.mpg; *.mpeg), MPEG-4 TS HD Video (*.ts), MPEG-2 TS HD Video (*.ts), Quick Time HD Video (*.mov), WMV HD Video (*.wmv), Audio-Video Interleaved HD Video (*.avi)


It can even convert from HD to SD.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fredmontano on Jan 19, 2009 at 07:59 PM
For me I'm using Total video converter. Has all the features I need and amazingly fast too.

What do you guys as front end other than WMC?

Have you tried XBMC? Meedio? Mediaportal?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 20, 2009 at 07:25 AM
Pati playing HD files on Linux pinapatulan ko na nga eh. Wala pakong mapost kasi pinag-aaralan ko pa.  Codecs for HD files meron naman. 

Pwede iinstall yung Ubuntu with Windows.  Dual boot ka on start up.  So you can tinker and toy around with the OS.  Maganda dyan, pagboot install mo nang ubuntu, sya na gagawa ng sarili nyang par***on automatically para paginstalled na sya at reboot ka ulit, nandun na ang boot menu for the 2 OS.  Pili ka nalang kung ano ang gagamitin mo. 

Plan to use:

VLC Media Player (http://www.videolan.org/)
Elisa Media Center (http://elisa.fluendo.com/)

doc ill join you with this linux project soon. 

yup, done that :(
i was hoping youd say that, pm giospike .. he is good in explaining things  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 20, 2009 at 09:51 AM
sharp and grainy sya compared pag naka VGA cable. at hindi soft ung mga edges. pero ok naman sya pag nasa windows media center. I've tried almost all the settings sa tv at resolution sa pc. Maganda ang resolution ng desktop pag VGA, pero pag watching movies sa media center, mas ok ung HDMI. :-\


I find it rather intriguing but it seems ganon yata talaga ang ibang HDTV when used as PC monitor - maganda desktop through VGA connection.  Maski yung 32LG50 (full HD LCD)  ganon din.  Solution with HDMI connection, as already posted by others, is to set the sharpness to absolutely low value - near zero, and then increase the font DPI. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 20, 2009 at 09:58 AM
question
(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/705/26711bw7.jpg)
how much do you think this costs?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM
question
(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/705/26711bw7.jpg)
how much do you think this costs?

Toslink ata tawag jan. Wla pa kong nakikitang separate neto. Meron ung nabili kong optical cable - Audio pro ang brand.P499 ata sa true value or sa electronics boutique. Meron din sa Spectra sa park square makati. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 20, 2009 at 10:16 AM
I find it rather intriguing but it seems ganon yata talaga ang ibang HDTV when used as PC monitor - maganda desktop through VGA connection.  Maski yung 32LG50 (full HD LCD) and PZ800 (full HD Plasma) ganon din.  Solution with HDMI connection, as already posted by others, is to set the sharpness to absolutely low value - near zero, and then increase the font DPI. 

Mukang ganun nga ata talaga. Pero ung friend ko na naka Samsung A550, ok naman daw, pero gamit nyang hdmi port is ung nasa separate na pciexpress na video card. papasubok ko pa lang ung sa mobo nya kung overemphasized din ung glare at sharpness.

Question, same PQ ba ang output pag ang connection ng from HTPC is DVI-HDMI compare with HDMI-HDMI? thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 20, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Mukang ganun nga ata talaga. Pero ung friend ko na naka Samsung A550, ok naman daw, pero gamit nyang hdmi port is ung nasa separate na pciexpress na video card. papasubok ko pa lang ung sa mobo nya kung overemphasized din ung glare at sharpness.

Question, same PQ ba ang output pag ang connection ng from HTPC is DVI-HDMI compare with HDMI-HDMI? thanks!
in theory yes!  :)
difference is the audio carrying capability of hdmi to hdmi
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Mukang ganun nga ata talaga. Pero ung friend ko na naka Samsung A550, ok naman daw, pero gamit nyang hdmi port is ung nasa separate na pciexpress na video card. papasubok ko pa lang ung sa mobo nya kung overemphasized din ung glare at sharpness.

Question, same PQ ba ang output pag ang connection ng from HTPC is DVI-HDMI compare with HDMI-HDMI? thanks!

I dont know about Samsung but in the case of Panasonic, the default PC connector is VGA, thus I would guess that the HDTV engine is programmed to automatically switch to "PC mode" if something is connected to that port.  I didnt have enough time to scrutinize the full HD LG LCD but I would surmise its engine works basically under the same principle as that of Panasonic.  If not, what's the point of providing VGA connector on the HDTV.

My desktops all have discrete ATI video cards, pretty good ones, so I'm sure it has nothing to do with the card.

Same quality ang DVI and HDMI in terms of video.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 20, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Toslink ata tawag jan. Wla pa kong nakikitang separate neto. Meron ung nabili kong optical cable - Audio pro ang brand.P499 ata sa true value or sa electronics boutique. Meron din sa Spectra sa park square makati. ;D
yep i dont mind if it includes the optical cable, the important thing is it includes the adapter (3.5 to optical "toslink")
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 20, 2009 at 11:11 AM
I dont know about Samsung but in the case of Panasonic, the default PC connector is VGA, thus I would guess that the HDTV engine is programmed to automatically switch to "PC mode" if something is connected to that port.  I didnt have enough time to scrutinize the full HD LG LCD but I would surmise its engine works basically under the same principle as that of Panasonic.  If not, what's the point of providing VGA connector on the HDTV.

My desktops all have discrete ATI video cards, pretty good ones, so I'm sure it has nothing to do with the card.

Same quality ang DVI and HDMI in terms of video.

ang work arround ko right now is both vga at hdmi ang naka kabit. pag browsing or pc applications lang VGA gamit ko. then switch ko lang source ng tv to HDMI pag movie time na ;D

Thanks for your input!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 20, 2009 at 12:54 PM
ang work arround ko right now is both vga at hdmi ang naka kabit. pag browsing or pc applications lang VGA gamit ko. then switch ko lang source ng tv to HDMI pag movie time na ;D

Thanks for your input!

hahaha! smart! nice thinking bro  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 20, 2009 at 03:47 PM
Regarding sa desktop looks better in VGA and movies in HDMI...
If tama pagkakaalala ko and similar topic yung nabasa ko, for HTPCs connected to Samsung LCD HDTVs via HDMI, you should use HDMI2 port behind the TV (as also stated in the manual) AND for some reason, everything becomes better if you rename "HDMI2" to "PC".  I don't know why, can someone confirm this? My HTPC is connected via VGA only.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 20, 2009 at 05:01 PM
Regarding sa desktop looks better in VGA and movies in HDMI...
If tama pagkakaalala ko and similar topic yung nabasa ko, for HTPCs connected to Samsung LCD HDTVs via HDMI, you should use HDMI2 port behind the TV (as also stated in the manual) AND for some reason, everything becomes better if you rename "HDMI2" to "PC".  I don't know why, can someone confirm this? My HTPC is connected via VGA only.
You're da man!!!!!!!! galing! it worked!!!! Brilliant!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 20, 2009 at 05:17 PM
pero di ko maintindihan. siguro hindi lang basta "rename" ung purpose nung pag rename ng input selection....???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 20, 2009 at 05:54 PM
You're da man!!!!!!!! galing! it worked!!!! Brilliant!!!
nice, so it does work... hehe... I just read it somewhere.

pero di ko maintindihan. siguro hindi lang basta "rename" ung purpose nung pag rename ng input selection....???
I guess it is not just "rename" when it comes to HDMI2.  The manual stated specifically kasi (at least for Samsung) that if you are connecting a PC by HDMI, use HDMI2.  Siguro, HDMI2 has two purposes (default is for connecting a player or home theater, which is "HDMI2", and for a computer, which is "PC") and by renaming it triggers which one.

BTW...
Share you HTPC set-up
Napadaan ako sa CD-R King and I saw a wireless keyboard and mouse combo and bought one P780. (I'm using it right now  :) )
I'm quite surprised regarding its range, medyo malayo siya than what I expected.  The keys are not that good though (matigas) but for the price and the convenience it brings to my HTPC, worth it na.
(http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/Keyboards/k802b.gif)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fredmontano on Jan 20, 2009 at 08:22 PM
@ fernando

have you tried Cdrking's pc remote control to control your HTPC? Saw it too in Cdrking fro 350 pesos. saw in one of the threads here in pinoydvd that one was able to use it in XBMC. But I would like to see it functioning well in Mediaportal. Given that its functioning well then it will really be a plus to the cheapest HTPC using Dual core atom rig or Little falls 2.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 20, 2009 at 09:22 PM
@fredmontano

I haven't tried it. I think I browsed through that thread a few weeks back in the hopes of getting a CD-R King's PC remote control and use it with XBMC.  But when I installed XBMC on my HTPC, for some reason, I did not liked it, more on the aesthetics and controls.  And also, I guess because it is an Atom based PC, I noticed that the performance is a bit sluggish with XBMC.  So unfortunately, I did not bother getting one.  I'm glad I bought the wireless keyboard and mouse though, no fuss and very handy.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 20, 2009 at 10:39 PM
nice, so it does work... hehe... I just read it somewhere.
I guess it is not just "rename" when it comes to HDMI2.  The manual stated specifically kasi (at least for Samsung) that if you are connecting a PC by HDMI, use HDMI2.  Siguro, HDMI2 has two purposes (default is for connecting a player or home theater, which is "HDMI2", and for a computer, which is "PC") and by renaming it triggers which one.

BTW...
Share you HTPC set-up
Napadaan ako sa CD-R King and I saw a wireless keyboard and mouse combo and bought one P780. (I'm using it right now  :) )
I'm quite surprised regarding its range, medyo malayo siya than what I expected.  The keys are not that good though (matigas) but for the price and the convenience it brings to my HTPC, worth it na.
(http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/Keyboards/k802b.gif)

hehehe!!! sabi nga nila Read the Fu**ing Manual. ahehehe!!! ;D di kasi ako mahilig mag manual..lolz! thanks again bro! at congrats sa bago mong keyboard at mouse!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 20, 2009 at 11:04 PM
hehehe!!! sabi nga nila Read the Fu**ing Manual. ahehehe!!! ;D di kasi ako mahilig mag manual..lolz! thanks again bro! at congrats sa bago mong keyboard at mouse!

The thing is, hindi rin kasi sinabi sa manual na rename it to "PC"... hehe...  ;D Nakasulat lang na use HDMI2 for PC.
Did the picture improved when you connected your pc to HDMI2 lang? or it was still the same as before and only changed when you renamed it to "PC"?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 20, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Key is to "fully enable" 1:1 pixel mapping (some call it dot-to-dot, or just scan) to achieve best possible image quality for PC applications.  VGA connection enables this feature but analogue line is susceptible to noise or interference.  Hence, ideally, or should I say it should be common sense among HDTV makers by now, that 1:1 pixel mapping through digital (DVI or HDMI) connection be available, especially for full HD HDTV.

However, it seems that is still not the case.

I'd like to try utilizing both VGA and HDMI/DVI simultaneously (if possible through a single PC, otherwise 2) on the 32LG50 and toggle between the two video inputs to see if 1:1 pixel mapping, enabled through the VGA connection, can be "forced" upon the digital line too.   ;) 

 

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 21, 2009 at 08:31 AM
nice, so it does work... hehe... I just read it somewhere.
I guess it is not just "rename" when it comes to HDMI2.  The manual stated specifically kasi (at least for Samsung) that if you are connecting a PC by HDMI, use HDMI2.  Siguro, HDMI2 has two purposes (default is for connecting a player or home theater, which is "HDMI2", and for a computer, which is "PC") and by renaming it triggers which one.

anything from panasonic?  :)

btw sakin ganito lang
hdmi1 - htpc
hdmi2 - ps3
hdmi3 - front hdmi
av1 - av5 - default lang  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM
sir clondalkin?? ano connection nio gamit sa pc to lcd?? is there a major difference if we try using hdmi cable on our LG LCD?

my setup is pc to lcd connected to a vga and for my sounds lcd connected to a 5.1 using the audio out in the LCD....

same setup po ba tau or is there a way to improve it?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 21, 2009 at 10:30 AM
still in the works.. my htpc..

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2556ef7.jpg)
coolermaster cm media 262
(http://i44.tinypic.com/fwksg3.jpg)

(http://i42.tinypic.com/akfr5v.jpg)
hp remote / microsoft reciever
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2a9zo1e.jpg)
back
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2rfbtxt.jpg)
inside

intel E7200 oced @ 3.4ghz
asrock p43twin-1600
2x2gb team elite ddr2 800
WD 160gb sata hd
LG sata dvdrw
BFG 9800gt oc+
HEC 475w
cdrking card reader
microsoft reciever
hp remote

medyo masikip so im still looking for a way to get an accelero s1 rev inside for my videocard..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 21, 2009 at 10:43 AM
anything from panasonic?  :)


Walang "abrakadabra" word ang Panasonic, but they don't use convenient phrases like "overscan on/off" or "dot-by-dot mode" or "just scan mode" or "1:1 pixel mapping enable"...instead..

sa Advanced Picture Setting, set HD Size to Size 2.  Yun lang pala yon.    Who would have thought of associating "HD Size" with  "PC Mode"?    ;D  

Sa sobrang simple ng terms in the menu, most users would likely ignore this settings option lalo na't kung mainly HDTV ang use or kung PC man,  dumederecho sa MKV viewing agad.   :)    Sa kakahintay ko kay Obama last night, nagbasa ng user manual line by line.   ;D

Are these settings available in your PX80?    
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 21, 2009 at 11:02 AM
sir clondalkin?? ano connection nio gamit sa pc to lcd?? is there a major difference if we try using hdmi cable on our LG LCD?

my setup is pc to lcd connected to a vga and for my sounds lcd connected to a 5.1 using the audio out in the LCD....

same setup po ba tau or is there a way to improve it?

Karl Im too far away from the LG right now to experiment with it and I only got to play with it for like 3 hours or so, nanood pa ako ng movie ng 2 hours within that timespan.  I used HDMI connection kase I didnt have the DVI/VGA adapter.  But sabi ng ibang owners, then can set the LG to 1920x1080p through VGA - which implies that 1:1 pixel mapping is enabled through that connection - analogue nga lang.   

In theory, HDMI should be better overall - well it looks pretty good playing those high def MKVs but I have slight issues in desktop mode due to clouding of texts - indicating the TV is not doing 1:1 pixel mapping perfectly right, or it overscans.  I temporarily fixed by zeroing the sharpness and by sitting at recommended minimum viewing distance of around 1.2 meters - then my wife adjusted it further by setting the resolution to 1777 x 1000 to make the fonts bigger para madali raw basahin from the viewing distance.   How's the quality of your text under VGA?  Perfectly crisp and clear ba like ordinary LCD PC monitor?

Kung magkaroon ka ng chance, please try BOTH connections simultaneously -either using 2 PCs or using 1 PC with dual video out, then set mo display to clone mode - as in both outputs will display the same image.  Then toggle between VGA and digital views repeatedly and see the result. The idea is to force "true" 1:1 pixel mapping (that was enabled by connecting something on the VGA port), onto the digital view (HDMI).   

OR, pakihanap nga kung may "magic word" din sa LG.  Meron bang setting to change the label of the HDMI port to "PC" just like Samsung?

How's your CoreAVC installation?

Cheers Karl.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 21, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Walang "abrakadabra" word ang Panasonic, but they don't use convenient phrases like "overscan on/off" or "dot-by-dot mode" or "just scan mode" or "1:1 pixel mapping enable"...instead..

sa Advanced Picture Setting, set HD Size to Size 2.  Yun lang pala yon.    Who would have thought of associating "HD Size" with  "PC Mode"?    ;D 

Sa sobrang simple ng terms in the menu, most users would likely ignore this settings option lalo na't kung mainly HDTV ang use or kung PC man,  dumederecho sa MKV viewing agad.   :)   Sa kakahintay ko kay Obama last night, nagbasa ng user manual line by line.   ;D
Are these settings available in your PX80?    

ill double check on this one bro .. its pv80 btw :)
funny thing is i was reading the manual last night too, but the kettle whistled so i was not able to finish reading .. :D
maybe this is the answer to my dpi settings, maybe i dont have to adjust them anymore.  :D :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 21, 2009 at 01:23 PM
The thing is, hindi rin kasi sinabi sa manual na rename it to "PC"... hehe...  ;D Nakasulat lang na use HDMI2 for PC.
Did the picture improved when you connected your pc to HDMI2 lang? or it was still the same as before and only changed when you renamed it to "PC"?

I had to rename it to "PC" saka sya gumanda..nung una na disappoint ako, sabi ko "nge, ganun din!" pero pag rename ko ng "PC" napa sigaw ako "Fernando is DA MAN!!!" ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 21, 2009 at 01:26 PM
still in the works.. my htpc..

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2556ef7.jpg)
coolermaster cm media 262
(http://i44.tinypic.com/fwksg3.jpg)

(http://i42.tinypic.com/akfr5v.jpg)
hp remote / microsoft reciever
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2a9zo1e.jpg)
back
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2rfbtxt.jpg)
inside

intel E7200 oced @ 3.4ghz
asrock p43twin-1600
2x2gb team elite ddr2 800
WD 160gb sata hd
LG sata dvdrw
BFG 9800gt oc+
HEC 475w
cdrking card reader
microsoft reciever
hp remote

medyo masikip so im still looking for a way to get an accelero s1 rev inside for my videocard..


Sir AC, ganda ng casing nyo..manipis lang. ung sakin medyo bulky, so kailangan vertical ang tayo. Anyway, san ka nakabili ng itim na mesh para sa cables mo? mesh ba tawag jan? ung black thing na nag hohold sa power papuntang motherboard? ??? TIA! ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: et414 on Jan 21, 2009 at 01:39 PM
AC pano nagkasya yung 9800gt sa casing mo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 21, 2009 at 01:59 PM
sir Deo...
thanks po sir.. nagandahan nga ako kaya ko binili ng di iniisip pano gamitin.. masikip po pala.. hehe

meron pong nabibili sleeving kit.. 450 each po.. malalagyan nadin yung ibang wires ng psu..
http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2755445 <-- ito po may nagbebenta from tpc..
ano po ba sir psu niyo.. usually po kasi pag walang sleeves dun sa papuntang mobo is generic po.. medyo sayang po pera to mod it since kasing price niya sleeves..
what i would suggest you po is get a branded psu.. starts at around 2200 po yata.. hec raptor 500w... kayalang like akin.. yung makapal lang po yung nakabalot..
anyways.. may option din naman po to use used items para makatipid.. yung akin po 2nd hand yan.. bought it for 500 pesos 2 years ago.. :D
that way po sir.. imbis na mapaganda lang natin psu.. mas may peace of mind po tayo dahil magiging mas stable po kuryente ng pc natin

sir ET414...
may riser card po kasama yung case kaya makikita mo sa 4th pic.. naka tabinge yung videocard sa case.. it works po kayalang.. ang sikip po.. and kaya nagiisip ako paraan how to bring in more fresh air sa loob.. kaya naglagay muna ako tempory ducting na gawa sa karton..
(http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/11-112-185-11.jpg)
parang ganito po.. pero ito from the lianli pc-c36b
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jay_26 on Jan 21, 2009 at 02:03 PM
Eto sakin NOON at Ngayon. Spot the difference  ;D

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w171/j_mortiz/IMG_1210.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w171/j_mortiz/IMG_2480.jpg)


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 21, 2009 at 02:11 PM
sir Deo...
thanks po sir.. nagandahan nga ako kaya ko binili ng di iniisip pano gamitin.. masikip po pala.. hehe

meron pong nabibili sleeving kit.. 450 each po.. malalagyan nadin yung ibang wires ng psu..
http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2755445 <-- ito po may nagbebenta from tpc..
ano po ba sir psu niyo.. usually po kasi pag walang sleeves dun sa papuntang mobo is generic po.. medyo sayang po pera to mod it since kasing price niya sleeves..
what i would suggest you po is get a branded psu.. starts at around 2200 po yata.. hec raptor 500w... kayalang like akin.. yung makapal lang po yung nakabalot..
anyways.. may option din naman po to use used items para makatipid.. yung akin po 2nd hand yan.. bought it for 500 pesos 2 years ago.. :D
that way po sir.. imbis na mapaganda lang natin psu.. mas may peace of mind po tayo dahil magiging mas stable po kuryente ng pc natin

sir ET414...
may riser card po kasama yung case kaya makikita mo sa 4th pic.. naka tabinge yung videocard sa case.. it works po kayalang.. ang sikip po.. and kaya nagiisip ako paraan how to bring in more fresh air sa loob.. kaya naglagay muna ako tempory ducting na gawa sa karton..
(http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/11-112-185-11.jpg)
parang ganito po.. pero ito from the lianli pc-c36b

PSU ko is ung kasama dun sa Icute QS02-BB Slim ATX Case na binili ko. Gusto ko lang sana lagyan ng sleeves ung power papuntang mobo at ung power ng hardrive at DVDrom. kasya ba sya? parang maliit ung naka post sa TipidPC. :-\ Thanks!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 21, 2009 at 02:12 PM
Karl Im too far away from the LG right now to experiment with it and I only got to play with it for like 3 hours or so, nanood pa ako ng movie ng 2 hours within that timespan.  I used HDMI connection kase I didnt have the DVI/VGA adapter.  But sabi ng ibang owners, then can set the LG to 1920x1080p through VGA - which implies that 1:1 pixel mapping is enabled through that connection - analogue nga lang.   

In theory, HDMI should be better overall - well it looks pretty good playing those high def MKVs but I have slight issues in desktop mode due to clouding of texts - indicating the TV is not doing 1:1 pixel mapping perfectly right, or it overscans.  I temporarily fixed by zeroing the sharpness and by sitting at recommended minimum viewing distance of around 1.2 meters - then my wife adjusted it further by setting the resolution to 1777 x 1000 to make the fonts bigger para madali raw basahin from the viewing distance.   How's the quality of your text under VGA?  Perfectly crisp and clear ba like ordinary LCD PC monitor?

Kung magkaroon ka ng chance, please try BOTH connections simultaneously -either using 2 PCs or using 1 PC with dual video out, then set mo display to clone mode - as in both outputs will display the same image.  Then toggle between VGA and digital views repeatedly and see the result. The idea is to force "true" 1:1 pixel mapping (that was enabled by connecting something on the VGA port), onto the digital view (HDMI).   

OR, pakihanap nga kung may "magic word" din sa LG.  Meron bang setting to change the label of the HDMI port to "PC" just like Samsung?

How's your CoreAVC installation?

Cheers Karl.

Hi clond...

about sa connection ko am using VGA cable and yes wala pong problem wih fonts and icons... crisp and sharp and readable po sia video resolution is 1920x1080 change lang ng unti sa font to 120dpi kasi maliit na talaga pag default don't have the chance pa to try using hdmi kasi di pa nakakabili with regards to video quality using VGA ok naman po... wala po akong nakita to change the label sa LG natin and by the way if am using the pc for desktop use naka intelligent sensor ako and for movie watching standard...

CoreAVC na install ko na plus KMPlayer na try ko na sa 720p na movies ok walang hiccups and bilis maghanap ng frames unlike VLC either LAG or HANG na.... hehe KMPlayer settings po auto embbed na ba ang coreavc dun or do i have to setup special permission???

Thanks more power
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 21, 2009 at 02:16 PM
Eto sakin NOON at Ngayon. Spot the difference  ;D

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w171/j_mortiz/IMG_1210.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w171/j_mortiz/IMG_2480.jpg)




1.Bago Speakers
2.Ung unang pic nakapatay ata ung HTPC at bukas ung TV
3.2nd pic parehong nka off
4.Panasonic na ba ung bagong tv? ;D
5.Bago na location nung rack. or pinatakpan mo ung window ;D

Congrats Bro, nice setup! ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 21, 2009 at 02:30 PM
add ko lang ..
possible upgrades ni jay_26

1. magdadagdag ng gf ???
or
2. upgrade nya yung current gf to wife status  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jay_26 on Jan 21, 2009 at 02:31 PM
1.Bago Speakers
2.Ung unang pic nakapatay ata ung HTPC at bukas ung TV
3.2nd pic parehong nka off
4.Panasonic na ba ung bagong tv? ;D
5.Bago na location nung rack. or pinatakpan mo ung window ;D

Congrats Bro, nice setup! ;D

1. Bro same speakers pa ri indi ko lang nasama sa 1st pic.  
2. Parehas bukas yung LCD and yung HTPC
3.May TAMA ka!
4. Yup, i upgraded from Sony 32V300 LCD to a Panasonic PV80 plasma tv. May Tama ka ulit!
5. Nilipat ko yung positioning nung rack from the other side. May Tama ka ulit!

Kulang: ung 1st pic ay border ung 2nd pic wala  ;D I give 3/6 75% passing score ;D

Share nyo naman yung inyo  ;D Wak mo ko bikung bro jammy, langya ka baka magonline yun dito paktay tayo  ;D Sympre upgrade status ni gf kala mo uprade gf noh  :P
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 21, 2009 at 02:35 PM

Share nyo naman yung inyo (calling bro jammy) 
pahiram digicam  :D :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jay_26 on Jan 21, 2009 at 02:40 PM
pahiram digicam  :D :D

ala rin digicam eh, nakikihiram lang ako kay gf. Kano nga pala inabot doon sa fake wall mo? Sana pinagwa mo na rin yung ceiling, palagyan mo ng mirrors  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 21, 2009 at 02:44 PM
about sa connection ko am using VGA cable and yes wala pong problem wih fonts and icons... crisp and sharp and readable po sia video resolution is 1920x1080 change lang ng unti sa font to 120dpi kasi maliit na talaga pag default don't have the chance pa to try using hdmi kasi di pa nakakabili with regards to video quality using VGA ok naman po... wala po akong nakita to change the label sa LG natin and by the way if am using the pc for desktop use naka intelligent sensor ako and for movie watching standard...

CoreAVC na install ko na plus KMPlayer na try ko na sa 720p na movies ok walang hiccups and bilis maghanap ng frames unlike VLC either LAG or HANG na.... hehe KMPlayer settings po auto embbed na ba ang coreavc dun or do i have to setup special permission???

Karl, paki-claro, so bale sa VGA connection mo ngayon, kasing linaw ng LG yung ordinary PC monitor sa texts and icons even at 1920x1080 settings?   Walang ghosting or parang shadowing yung texts - malinis na malinis?   Readable kung readable pero hindi masakit sa mata or nakakaduling bale?  Kung ganon ay magaling, as in gumagana nga ng maayos yung 1:1 pixel mapping under VGA.  Pero kung di man kasing "linis" ng digital connection, limitation na yon ng analog signal.   Marami kaseng full HD HDTV na ibang brand na would only allow up to 1366x768 using VGA connection.  Yeah I understand why it's desirable to increase the font dpi to 120.   Gaano ka kalayo umupo sa PC?    

Kaya nga I'm thinking na puedeng "work-around" to achieve "pure" 1:1 pixel mapping via HDMI, is to use VGA connection at the same time.  

Yeah oks na yung Standard setting for movie viewing pero kung maselan ka, try to play with User1 or User2 para you can set the PQ as near as possible to your taste.  

Pero kahit ano pa man, mas maganda ang kulay and potential PQ ng LG sa Samsung.   ;D -  kase mas maganda ang S-IPS sa VA.  ;)

You need to configure KMP to specifically use CoreAVC for decoding H.264 and VC-1.  Nandito lang sa bandang taas ng thread na eto yung detailed procedure.   Pinagkwentuhan na namin ni Alfie dati pa.   If you dont do that, KMP will use its internal decoders.  Bale ngayon, internal decoders palang ginagamit mo - and it's already better than VLC.

Keep us posted.  Thanks.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Jan 21, 2009 at 02:58 PM
@jay_26 - ganda bro ah.. nagoyo kita sa pag-upgrade ng display.. hehehe
balitaan mo ako pag upgrade ka ng speakers.. yung opismate ko naghahanap ng z5500..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 21, 2009 at 03:19 PM
Karl, paki-claro, so bale sa VGA connection mo ngayon, kasing linaw ng LG yung ordinary PC monitor sa texts and icons even at 1920x1080 settings?   Walang ghosting or parang shadowing yung texts - malinis na malinis?   Readable kung readable pero hindi masakit sa mata or nakakaduling bale?  Kung ganon ay magaling, as in gumagana nga ng maayos yung 1:1 pixel mapping under VGA.  Pero kung di man kasing "linis" ng digital connection, limitation na yon ng analog signal.   Marami kaseng full HD HDTV na ibang brand na would only allow up to 1366x768 using VGA connection.  Yeah I understand why it's desirable to increase the font dpi to 120.   Gaano ka kalayo umupo sa PC?    

Kaya nga I'm thinking na puedeng "work-around" to achieve "pure" 1:1 pixel mapping via HDMI, is to use VGA connection at the same time.  

Yeah oks na yung Standard setting for movie viewing pero kung maselan ka, try to play with User1 or User2 para you can set the PQ as near as possible to your taste.  

Pero kahit ano pa man, mas maganda ang kulay and potential PQ ng LG sa Samsung.   ;D -  kase mas maganda ang S-IPS sa VA.  ;)

You need to configure KMP to specifically use CoreAVC for decoding H.264 and VC-1.  Nandito lang sa bandang taas ng thread na eto yung detailed procedure.   Pinagkwentuhan na namin ni Alfie dati pa.   If you dont do that, KMP will use its internal decoders.  Bale ngayon, internal decoders palang ginagamit mo - and it's already better than VLC.

Keep us posted.  Thanks.



hahaha malabo ba ang explanation ko anyway...
so bale sa VGA connection mo ngayon yes po!
kasing linaw ng LG yung ordinary PC monitor sa texts and icons even at 1920x1080 settings? yes setting @ 1920x1080 malinaw na malinaw
Walang ghosting or parang shadowing yung texts - malinis na malinis? wala po clear txt as in po!
Readable kung readable pero hindi masakit sa mata or nakakaduling bale? yup wala pong shadow and di po sia nakakastress sa mata
Gaano ka kalayo umupo sa PC? not sure kung ilang meters hehehe pero ginagawa ko kasing desktop so normal view po

siguro magback read na lang me sa kmplayer hehe or if masend nio po sa akn private ung settings much better wahaha..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 21, 2009 at 07:55 PM
@sir Deo..
sa alam ko po.. medyo strechable yan.. hihilain para limiit.. squeeze together tataba.. hehe
yun po sa alam ko pero i have never try installing sleeves po.. sa alam ko kelangan din po ng tyaga.. but yung 450 pesos na yan.. mahaba yata yan.. hehe
ask niyo nalang po seller to be sure..
bibili po barkada ko ng icute qs02.. ilan po watt kasama niyan na psu? magkano po inabot? kanvas po kasi namin kanina walang psu.. hehe thanks

@sir Jay..
parang lumiit po yata table niyo? hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 22, 2009 at 08:01 AM
@sir Deo..
sa alam ko po.. medyo strechable yan.. hihilain para limiit.. squeeze together tataba.. hehe
yun po sa alam ko pero i have never try installing sleeves po.. sa alam ko kelangan din po ng tyaga.. but yung 450 pesos na yan.. mahaba yata yan.. hehe
ask niyo nalang po seller to be sure..
bibili po barkada ko ng icute qs02.. ilan po watt kasama niyan na psu? magkano po inabot? kanvas po kasi namin kanina walang psu.. hehe thanks

@sir Jay..
parang lumiit po yata table niyo? hehe

May kasama syang 500w na psu. 2.3k ata. di ko sure kasi pinabuo ko lang sa tropa ko ung HTPC ko. Baka di nako mag sleeves, tutal naka takip naman well ventilated ung loob..so hindi rin kita ;D ayusin ko na lang ung cables para mas maganda air flow. Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jay_26 on Jan 22, 2009 at 11:07 AM
@jay_26 - ganda bro ah.. nagoyo kita sa pag-upgrade ng display.. hehehe
balitaan mo ako pag upgrade ka ng speakers.. yung opismate ko naghahanap ng z5500..

Waahhhhhhhh... wag nyo na ko demonyohin  :-\
Tsaka na lang siguro bro dami ngayon gastusin eh. Post nyo naman setup nyo dito  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ainos on Jan 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM
pwede bang patulong nang mid level na htpc set-up mga 20k budget I have a 32 inch TV and HTIB

di naman ako masyado gamer basta maka nuod ako nang movies and surf the net masaya na ako

20k budget range ko

thanks all
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 22, 2009 at 12:55 PM
pwede bang patulong nang mid level na htpc set-up mga 20k budget I have a 32 inch TV and HTIB

di naman ako masyado gamer basta maka nuod ako nang movies and surf the net masaya na ako

20k budget range ko

thanks all

malaki na yang budget mo..pde na pang 1TB na hdd. eto check mo:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=87810.0
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ainos on Jan 22, 2009 at 03:23 PM
thank you for the link :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 22, 2009 at 05:48 PM
hahaha malabo ba ang explanation ko anyway...
so bale sa VGA connection mo ngayon yes po!
kasing linaw ng LG yung ordinary PC monitor sa texts and icons even at 1920x1080 settings? yes setting @ 1920x1080 malinaw na malinaw
Walang ghosting or parang shadowing yung texts - malinis na malinis? wala po clear txt as in po!
Readable kung readable pero hindi masakit sa mata or nakakaduling bale? yup wala pong shadow and di po sia nakakastress sa mata
Gaano ka kalayo umupo sa PC? not sure kung ilang meters hehehe pero ginagawa ko kasing desktop so normal view po


Hindi malabo yung explanation mo Karl.  Mala German or Japanese kase ako minsan with descriptions.   ;)

I think you should stick with VGA on your 32LG50 until somebody tries yung proposed experiment ko with HDMI/VGA simultaneous connection.  Kung ganyan kaganda yung desktop mo under VGA and you sit at normal distance as you would on a normal PC monitor, baka ma-disappoint ka sa ghosting ng texts via HDMI.  Besides, you're not losing so much on PQ when watching MKV via analogue connection.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dyerds on Jan 22, 2009 at 07:59 PM
baka ma-disappoint ka sa ghosting ng texts via HDMI

Bakit nga ba?

I will try to experiment on this again. If I remember it right, mas maganda nga yata ang fonts ko nung naka vga ako kaysa ngayong naka-HDMI ako.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 23, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Bakit nga ba?

I will try to experiment on this again. If I remember it right, mas maganda nga yata ang fonts ko nung naka vga ako kaysa ngayong naka-HDMI ako.  :)

Because the 32LG50 (and many other HDTVs) does not seem to be doing 1:1 pixel mapping perfectly right via HDMI.  Shadowing of texts is an indication of overscanning.  I remember I played a little bit with its Just Scan mode.  That's supposed to do things right, but if I recall correctly, clouding of texts was still present.  So next visit to Manila nalang ako mag-experiment.  Again, if you can, try to connect your LG to 2 PCs (kahit anong PC na meron VGA) - 1 PC via VGA and another via HDMI.    Then toggle between the 2 views repeatedly and see what happens on the desktop image via HDMI.   That's theoretically like a brute force method of enabling 1:1 pixel mapping via HDMI.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: keith22 on Jan 23, 2009 at 07:22 AM
I am having problems playing 720p files in my pc. Mejo luma na sya pero may nakita kase akong mga posts dito about p4 pc's being able to play 720p files. Nagkakalag kase sa video. I've tried kmplayer(internal decoder), kmplayer(coreavc), mpc(k-lite) pero may lag pa rin. I tried playing it with my laptop pero ok naman.

Eto nga pala specs ng "ancient" pc ko:
AMD Sempron 2200+
768 mb ram
640 gb WD Blue
Geforce fx5500 256
Samsung 2333HD LCD TV

Malamang ang problema nga eh mashado na outdated ung pc pero nagtataka lang ako kase ung iba daw eh nkkpagplay ng 720p files using systems almost the same as mine. Anyway kung ganun nga eh meron pa ba akong pwedeng iupgrade sa pc ko para mkapagplay man lng ng 720p files? Or would I just be wasting my money in trying to upgrade my system and just assemble a new one?

Nga pala, first post. :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 23, 2009 at 09:52 AM
I am having problems playing 720p files in my pc. Mejo luma na sya pero may nakita kase akong mga posts dito about p4 pc's being able to play 720p files. Nagkakalag kase sa video. I've tried kmplayer(internal decoder), kmplayer(coreavc), mpc(k-lite) pero may lag pa rin. I tried playing it with my laptop pero ok naman.


Hello Keith.  Based on my trials, if CoreAVC 1.8.5 does not eliminate the video lag issue on your PC, nothing else will (at the moment).  I have tried this codec on quite a number of "ancient" laptops and desktops but some PC configurations are simply not up to the task of playing high def encodes. Ganun kalayo ang burden sa system between a 720p encode and a standard def one - and its mainly CPU dependent.  Audio stream lang ang kaya. 

Definitely better to build a new one than upgrade your current system.

 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: keith22 on Jan 23, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Yeah you're probably right. Do you know where I could buy the Emaxx mobo that has been mentioned in this thread? It seems that it is the bang-for-the-buck mobo for our purpose. I tried PC Express, Villman, and Octagon but they dont seem to carry the item.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Try mo sa Gilmore o' kaya i-search mo siya sa TipdPC(maraming nag-be-benta doo'n...si Babinang i-ha-hanap ka niya)

try mo rin ang link na ito'; http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=65195.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=65195.0)

Mahilig sila gaisano, PC Madness, PC Hub, PC City at PC Corner sa mga EMaxx(di' ko lang alam kung parehong model na renicomenda dito)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 24, 2009 at 02:58 AM
sir clondalkin nabasa ko may option ka ng just scan sa t.v mo bat ganun ako wala??? hmmmm parehas lang tau ng model di ba lg50fr waaa... bakit ganun.. and by the way nagpurchase ako ng htib ng lg kasama sa package di ko pa nasesetup sa tv mejo nahihirapan ako pagisipan connection kasi ang unti ng input hahah...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 24, 2009 at 03:34 AM
Yeah you're probably right. Do you know where I could buy the Emaxx mobo that has been mentioned in this thread? It seems that it is the bang-for-the-buck mobo for our purpose. I tried PC Express, Villman, and Octagon but they dont seem to carry the item.
try questlogic  (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=88143.0), i just setup a new htpc using emaxx 780g (again :D )
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sayad5 on Jan 24, 2009 at 08:22 AM
sa acenet shoppesville may BD-Rom drive na available
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: chariol on Jan 24, 2009 at 08:33 AM
just got my 663 yesterday from a onkyo 605, problem is that i cant get any sound when connected to my htpc! no problems from the 605. my video card is a 4830. can anybody help me out?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 24, 2009 at 08:59 AM
just got my 663 yesterday from a onkyo 605, problem is that i cant get any sound when connected to my htpc! no problems from the 605. my video card is a 4830. can anybody help me out?
HDMI connection mo from htpc to AVR? nasubukan mo na optical?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: chariol on Jan 24, 2009 at 12:05 PM
not yet, sa 605 kasi walang problem tru hdmi video and audio.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 24, 2009 at 01:32 PM
not yet, sa 605 kasi walang problem tru hdmi video and audio.
So, anong gamit mong connection? spdif? analog? Anong OS? baka kailangan mo lang palitan ung default source ng sound mo sa playback devices. :-\
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 24, 2009 at 03:13 PM
sir clondalkin nabasa ko may option ka ng just scan sa t.v mo bat ganun ako wala??? hmmmm parehas lang tau ng model di ba lg50fr waaa... bakit ganun.. and by the way nagpurchase ako ng htib ng lg kasama sa package di ko pa nasesetup sa tv mejo nahihirapan ako pagisipan connection kasi ang unti ng input hahah...

Karl the Just Scan option is available under HDMI connection only.  Yun nga dapat yung "pure" 1:1 pixel mapping mode via HDMI.   And its also a proof that 16:9 under HDMI overscans kase when you switch to Just Scan mode, lumiliit yung screen ng konti from all sides - meaning yun lang talaga ang 100% coverage under 1920x1080 (pixel) resolution.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 24, 2009 at 03:19 PM
nice, so it does work... hehe... I just read it somewhere.
I guess it is not just "rename" when it comes to HDMI2.  The manual stated specifically kasi (at least for Samsung) that if you are connecting a PC by HDMI, use HDMI2.  Siguro, HDMI2 has two purposes (default is for connecting a player or home theater, which is "HDMI2", and for a computer, which is "PC") and by renaming it triggers which one.

BTW...
Share you HTPC set-up
Napadaan ako sa CD-R King and I saw a wireless keyboard and mouse combo and bought one P780. (I'm using it right now  :) )
I'm quite surprised regarding its range, medyo malayo siya than what I expected.  The keys are not that good though (matigas) but for the price and the convenience it brings to my HTPC, worth it na.
(http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/Keyboards/k802b.gif)

Bro is this RF or IR?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Qman on Jan 24, 2009 at 04:34 PM

(http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/Keyboards/k802b.gif)
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Bought the same from CDR King last December pero I only used the mouse pa lang.  Im using kasi a wired portable keyboard pag me tini tweak ako sa HTPC ko.  Yong wireless keyboard ay nakatabi pa rin, unfortunately im not at home to play with it.

How's the range of the keyboard by the way.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 24, 2009 at 04:42 PM
Karl the Just Scan option is available under HDMI connection only.  Yun nga dapat yung "pure" 1:1 pixel mapping mode via HDMI.   And its also a proof that 16:9 under HDMI overscans kase when you switch to Just Scan mode, lumiliit yung screen ng konti from all sides - meaning yun lang talaga ang 100% coverage under 1920x1080 (pixel) resolution.



hahaha ah ok wala pa kasi ako HDMI kaya siguro di ko pa nakikita anyway naconnect ko na ung HTIB ng lg sa LCD thru audio output ng t.v pinagiisipan ko kung dun ko na rin drive ung soung ng pc kasi di ba may input jacj ung lcd natin.. ok na kaya un???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 24, 2009 at 05:32 PM
hahaha ah ok wala pa kasi ako HDMI kaya siguro di ko pa nakikita anyway naconnect ko na ung HTIB ng lg sa LCD thru audio output ng t.v pinagiisipan ko kung dun ko na rin drive ung soung ng pc kasi di ba may input jacj ung lcd natin.. ok na kaya un???

Connect the SPDIF (or whatever optical out) your PC has with the HTIB. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: espi on Jan 25, 2009 at 02:11 AM
still in the works.. my htpc..

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2556ef7.jpg)
coolermaster cm media 262
(http://i44.tinypic.com/fwksg3.jpg)


bro,

may i ask where did you bought your htpc casing and how much? im also looking for a slim htpc case, and this one is the slimmest ive seen so far...

im also checkin the lian li htpc case, im not quite sure if its slim as the cooler master, i kinda liked it's brushed aluminum finish..

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Jan 25, 2009 at 09:30 PM
Bro is this RF or IR?

It's RF

(http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/Keyboards/k802b.gif)

Bought the same from CDR King last December pero I only used the mouse pa lang.  Im using kasi a wired portable keyboard pag me tini tweak ako sa HTPC ko.  Yong wireless keyboard ay nakatabi pa rin, unfortunately im not at home to play with it.

How's the range of the keyboard by the way.

It's quite far, I'm away for the weekend from home so I can't really measure exactly but as an estimate, maybe around 10 feet or more.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 26, 2009 at 02:26 AM
@sir pol.. mura lang po yung case ko.. ang problem.. sa china pa po nabili..
i think.. same height po yung lianli and coolermaster.. height po nito is... sakto lang para magkasya ang standard psu... ganun din po yata sa lianli..
its 500 rmb x 6+ rmb/peso..
if meron ka po kakilala na taga china.. pwede ka magpabili.. kayalang medyo mahirap iuwi.. hinandcary ko po siya..

if.. budget is no problem.. may nakita po ako sa pc options antec.. slim.. and may remote na siya.. and powersupply.. kaya medyo najackup yung price..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129046 <-- the antec.. its 10900 sa pc options
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 26, 2009 at 08:38 AM
Mahal talaga sa PC Options, maganda lang puntahan, madalas kasi, sila lang ang mayroon.

OO' nga pala...nag announce na an Intel mag-slash price sila....panahon na mului magbuo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dyerds on Jan 26, 2009 at 07:36 PM
Mahal talaga sa PC Options, maganda lang puntahan, madalas kasi, sila lang ang mayroon.

OO' nga pala...nag announce na an Intel mag-slash price sila....panahon na mului magbuo.

That's good news to those who wants an upgrade.  :) Scary though, I heard they are shutting one of their factories here in the Phil. because of the crisis. :( Maybe that is why they are cutting their prices.

Btw, I played Taken 1080p (Liam Neeson) this morning on KMP but it had a hard time playing it. It don't sync with the dialogue. I then used MPC and well, well, well it played smoothly.  :) There were no issues at all. I still think the pq of KMP is better than MPC but now I feel MPC is more powerful in terms  of playing 1080p. IMO  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 26, 2009 at 07:52 PM
That's good news to those who wants an upgrade.  :) Scary though, I heard they are shutting one of their factories here in the Phil. because of the crisis. :( Maybe that is why the cutting their prices.

Samsung posted 1st ever quarterly loss as well.  One of the reasons why their endless expansion was finally put on hold.  Can we expect price slashing for Samsung monitors (PC and HDTV), and other Samsung computer accessories as well?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 27, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Mga Guru question pag connect ko ung HTPC ko to HTIB via Optical Cable maacheive ko po ba ang 5.1 output?? how to a setup that kasi s HTPC ko ung board ko may DTS decoder tapos ung HTIB ko ganun din meron sia option like BYPASS, VIRTUAL, ON-STAGE hmmm paano kaya un..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 27, 2009 at 12:51 AM
It's RF

It's quite far, I'm away for the weekend from home so I can't really measure exactly but as an estimate, maybe around 10 feet or more.

Good enough for the price.   ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: milken on Jan 27, 2009 at 06:42 PM
Mga Guru question pag connect ko ung HTPC ko to HTIB via Optical Cable maacheive ko po ba ang 5.1 output?? how to a setup that kasi s HTPC ko ung board ko may DTS decoder tapos ung HTIB ko ganun din meron sia option like BYPASS, VIRTUAL, ON-STAGE hmmm paano kaya un..

I dont know what HTIB you are using but in principle, if you want your HTIB to decode DTS, you must configure your PC to pass through DTS signal.  Install AC3 Filter, then check DTS for SPDIF passthrough.

If you want your sound card to decode DTS, don't enable SPDIF pass through and connect analog cables from your soundcard to your HTIB.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Jan 28, 2009 at 03:47 AM
Dumating na ba yung mga LG na BD ROM?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 28, 2009 at 07:32 AM
Dumating na ba yung mga LG na BD ROM?
questlogic has a few stocks 2 days ago.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: milken on Jan 28, 2009 at 08:28 AM
pa share naman ng price ng LG BD ROM.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 28, 2009 at 05:22 PM
kelan kaya magiging mainstream ang bluray? hehe

85$ nalang sa newegg eh..

writer 200$..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 28, 2009 at 06:16 PM
I dont know what HTIB you are using but in principle, if you want your HTIB to decode DTS, you must configure your PC to pass through DTS signal.  Install AC3 Filter, then check DTS for SPDIF passthrough.

If you want your sound card to decode DTS, don't enable SPDIF pass through and connect analog cables from your soundcard to your HTIB.

thnks for the info try ko muna magoptical in di ko pa natatry pagdumating siguro ung cable ill update po again thnx po!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 02, 2009 at 11:08 PM
nice naconnect ko na ung optical cable ko from pc to htib ko kaso hirap iset waaa... sir clondalkin or any guru here help po kasi nood ako movies minsan meron sa rear speaker minsan wala... kmplayer gamit ko... paano ko ba set un na tipong lahat ng speaker magamit ko... and ano po ba ang volume dapat center front and rear.. thnx po!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 03, 2009 at 02:02 PM
nice naconnect ko na ung optical cable ko from pc to htib ko kaso hirap iset waaa... sir clondalkin or any guru here help po kasi nood ako movies minsan meron sa rear speaker minsan wala... kmplayer gamit ko... paano ko ba set un na tipong lahat ng speaker magamit ko... and ano po ba ang volume dapat center front and rear.. thnx po!

choose filter via kmplayer then click on ac3 filter.
then try my settings here (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=86172.msg959091#msg959091)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jameskirk_69 on Feb 08, 2009 at 09:07 AM
choose filter via kmplayer then click on ac3 filter.
then try my settings here (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=86172.msg959091#msg959091)

thanks for posting this, napatakbo ko na nang maayos ang optical connection sa creative x-fi music sound card ko connection to av receiver...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 08, 2009 at 09:16 AM
thanks for posting this, napatakbo ko na nang maayos ang optical connection sa creative x-fi music sound card ko connection to av receiver...
glad it helped bro  :)
btw do you have a link of your xfi music?  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 09, 2009 at 03:47 AM
kakainis ok naman ung setting ginaya ko na po pero bakit ganun choppy ung sounds and para masakit sa tenga bagal pa ng playback using kmplayer pero oks naman ung gamit ko kasi am ung 780g na gigabyte board 4400+AM2 processor and 2 gig ram waaa.. di ko na alam gagawin ko....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 09, 2009 at 07:15 AM
kakainis ok naman ung setting ginaya ko na po pero bakit ganun choppy ung sounds and para masakit sa tenga bagal pa ng playback using kmplayer pero oks naman ung gamit ko kasi am ung 780g na gigabyte board 4400+AM2 processor and 2 gig ram waaa.. di ko na alam gagawin ko....
have you tried/are you using core avc and kmplayer from clondalkin?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 17, 2009 at 10:29 AM
TIRSO CRUZ III
DVD    ;D ;D ;D

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/2009-0016.jpg)


NORA AUNOR
Bluray   ;D ;D ;D

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/2009-0017.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM
TIRSO CRUZ III
DVD    ;D ;D ;D

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/2009-0016.jpg)


NORA AUNOR
Bluray   ;D ;D ;D

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/2009-0017.jpg)


Finally may pix na rin ang setup!
ganda ng casing na antec oh  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 17, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Finally may pix na rin ang setup!
ganda ng casing na antec oh  ;D ;D ;D
thanks bro .. :)
new phone too .. :D
might dispose of the antec late this year to give way to my future yamaha avr  :D :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 17, 2009 at 02:25 PM
for htpc set-up, should i go single-core or dual-core? intel or amd? i will just use for viewing movies. no encoding coz i have a separate workstation. what are the important parts of an htpc?  ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 18, 2009 at 05:44 AM
for htpc set-up, should i go single-core or dual-core? intel or amd? i will just use for viewing movies. no encoding coz i have a separate workstation. what are the important parts of an htpc?  ???

dual core for HD playback.
i prefer amd since it is ideal for this setup.
im using mine too as my htpc nothing more. 
btw ill repost my htpc specs, i believe gunblade and I have the same setup

AMD 5000+ X2
Emaxx ATi 780g PRO
2x1gb Team Elite rams
160gb HDD + 1tb external (soon to be 2tb :))
DVDWriter
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: smurfy78 on Feb 18, 2009 at 09:49 AM
Bro, baka benta ko na lang PC ko.. gayahin ko setup mo...
Ano pala Vcard mo? Builtin ba??
Thanks...


dual core for HD playback.
i prefer amd since it is ideal for this setup.
im using mine too as my htpc nothing more. 
btw ill repost my htpc specs, i believe gunblade and I have the same setup

AMD 5000+ X2
Emaxx ATi 780g PRO
2x1gb Team Elite rams
160gb HDD + 1tb external (soon to be 2tb :))
DVDWriter
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:07 AM
@ninjababez: thanks. will built a similar setup. i might go with Gigabyte GA78GM-S2H with Optical S/PDIF out.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM
@ninjababez: thanks. will built a similar setup. i might go with Gigabyte GA78GM-S2H with Optical S/PDIF out.
i know gigabyte has been there for a while and makes good products but i must say i still prefer Emaxx.
gigabyte has issues with this particular chipset, unless ofcourse if you get the newer revision of that motherboard (which i doubt) :)
Bro, baka benta ko na lang PC ko.. gayahin ko setup mo...
Ano pala Vcard mo? Builtin ba??Thanks...

im using the builtin vga of my 780g chipset  :)
good for 1080p playback  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 18, 2009 at 01:26 PM
gigabyte has issues with this particular chipset, unless ofcourse if you get the newer revision of that motherboard (which i doubt) :)

naku, buti nasabi mo.. research ko muna nga..  ;D other choices ko ay Asus M3N78-VM or Gigabyte GA780GM-DS3H. need ko kasi ung Optical S/PDIF out.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: buhakee on Feb 18, 2009 at 04:30 PM
TIRSO CRUZ III
DVD    ;D ;D ;D

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/2009-0016.jpg)


NORA AUNOR
Bluray   ;D ;D ;D

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/2009-0017.jpg)


eto na pala ung luna B na pininturahan mo ng black...ganda chief! hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 18, 2009 at 04:40 PM
eto na pala ung luna B na pininturahan mo ng black...ganda chief! hehe

pipinturahan mo na rin ba ng black yung Luna B mo  ;D ganda nga kinalabasan  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: buhakee on Feb 18, 2009 at 09:29 PM
pipinturahan mo na rin ba ng black yung Luna B mo  ;D ganda nga kinalabasan  ;)

pagpa-planuhan natin yan hehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 19, 2009 at 04:35 AM
naku, buti nasabi mo.. research ko muna nga..  ;D other choices ko ay Asus M3N78-VM or Gigabyte GA780GM-DS3H. need ko kasi ung Optical S/PDIF out.
my 2nd choice would be the one that Nerveblocker is using.  :D
btw thats  the 2nd revision from gigabyte bro  :D

pipinturahan mo na rin ba ng black yung Luna B mo  ;D ganda nga kinalabasan  ;)
pagpa-planuhan natin yan hehehe
2 canister flat black bosny = 200 pesos  (prolly around 3 canister if you include the post)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DAMaster on Feb 19, 2009 at 02:00 PM
My setup is using my laptop as my HTPC (Fujitsu core 2 duo, 2GB mem, Intel GMA graphics)
connected through VGA cable sa Hitachi LCD TV ko and mini-jack to stereo RCA going to a/v receiver.  Tulad ng sabi ni sir fernando very very acceptable yung quality ng MKVs using this setup.  Auto-adjust naman yung LCD TV pero mas ok kung i-set mo yung resolution ng HTPC mo closest sa native resolution ng LCD TV to get the best possible PQ.  As for SQ solve na ko sa DSP options ng A/V receiver.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 19, 2009 at 06:48 PM
to htpc owners: ano gamit nyong PSU unit? branded or generic? how much power ba ang required?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: keema on Feb 19, 2009 at 09:00 PM
hmmm...question lang po sirs..okay na ba ang processor na Core 2 Duo 2.6ghz para sa HTPC? plus dedicated videocard with DVI out kse wala akong makitang dedicated video card na may HDMI eh.. tnx...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Feb 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM
hmmm...question lang po sirs..okay na ba ang processor na Core 2 Duo 2.6ghz para sa HTPC? plus dedicated videocard with DVI out kse wala akong makitang dedicated video card na may HDMI eh.. tnx...

okay na okay na po yan.  just use DVI-to-HDMI adaptor for your HD TV. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: momay on Feb 19, 2009 at 11:33 PM
hmmm...question lang po sirs..okay na ba ang processor na Core 2 Duo 2.6ghz para sa HTPC? plus dedicated videocard with DVI out kse wala akong makitang dedicated video card na may HDMI eh.. tnx...

kuha ka na lang athlon 64 X2 sir. walang magandang video chipset and intel.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 20, 2009 at 03:27 AM
sir keema..
kahit core duo lang would be more than enough for an htpc po

kung tama ako ati hd4670 and nvidia 9600gt... meron po hdmi:)

and yung sabi po ni sir dm1179.. meron nga naman pong adaptor for that:) kaya wala kadin problema

for watching videos lang po.. pwede na ang shared video..

for a gaming htpc.. ofcourse.. you will need a vc:)

sir red_one
psu po depende sa load ng system niyo and sa budget..
if kaya po ng budget get a branded one.. corsair, hec, antec etc etc.. (a must if naka good videocard ka)
if budgeted.. kahit generic pwede na.. just like a regular pc..
htpc naman po is... pc case lang na kasya sa hometheater rack:)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 20, 2009 at 07:35 AM
@AC: i will build a similar setup with nerveblocker or ninjababez. AMD780G motherboard with integrated video. the cheapest i can find are Generic Orion 500W (P550), HEC 335W (P1,450), HEC400W (P1900) and Gigabyte Superb 460W (P1,900). any suggestions?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 20, 2009 at 08:59 AM
Qualify nyo mabuti kung ano personal requirements nyo for a PC that can be used to play media. 

1.  Do you really want to build a system that is optimized primarily for media playback?

2.  Do you want it very very silent?

3.  There is a definition for HTPC but how do you actually interpret an H.T.P.C.?

4.  What media are you going to play?  Be specific.  Many of the claims and references about hardware acceleration may not apply to the media you have in mind.

5.   Do you want it to look cool?  "htpc naman po is...pc case lang na kasya sa hometheater rack" - This is a very pragmatic definition, but so be it.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM
sir red_one,
if built in video po.. any powersupply sa namention niyo would work.. mas maganda po if willing kayo ay branded powersupply.. according lang po sa mga nabasa ko.. mas stable daw yung kuryente at dahil dun mas wala magiging problema sa system..

but.. generic in my experience is ok naman.. sa bahay kasi may videocard htpc ko kaya i cant use generic.. pero sa opis.. lahat na pc namin puros generic.. hindi naman nagkakaproblema yung psu mismo.. hindi ko lang alam kung minsan nagkaproblema ibang piyesa dahil sa unstable voltage galing sa psu..
if concerned din po kayo sa bill ng kuryente niyo.. mas makakatipid kayo sa kuryente if branded.. some branded units more than 80% ang efficiency.. i have seen sa reviews as much as 86% but sa generic.. baka as bad as below 70%..

except po sa orion.. lahat naman po na namention niyo ay branded:)

consider niyo nadin po future improvements like baka magdagdag kayo ng video card or some accesories na matakaw sa kuryente.. para hindi din po palit ng palit.. sa mga nababasa ko ang mabenta is yung hec raptor500 at around 2300 and yung hec ab550 na nasa 3200..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM
@AC: binuksan ko ung Dell Optiplex 330 (Slim) dito sa office. safe na ba ko sa HEC 335W sa setup ko?

Dell Optiplex 330 CPU:
intel pentium dual core 1.8ghz
intel x3100 graphics
2 x 2gb ddr2 800
2 sata hdd
1 sata dvd-rom

ung PSU nya ay Dell 280W:

(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/dell_psu.jpg)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 20, 2009 at 11:36 AM
opinion ko lang po... safe na.. basta you dont buy a hi end videocard anytime soon..

sa mga reviews sinasabing mga 500 to 550watt psu ay around 250 to 350 lang actual eh kaya.. malaki nadin 335 for a true watt psu..
just make sure.. hindi bigla magbabago isip mo and gagawa ka gaming rig:) hehe kung ganun kasi magkukulang na yan..

goodluck po sir sa setup niyo:)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 20, 2009 at 11:45 AM
@AC: thanks. yup, this will be for media playing only. i have a separate workstation for the high-end stuff.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM
np po sir.. you may also want to wait for 2nd opinions.. bago ka po bumili sir:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Feb 20, 2009 at 01:35 PM
@AC: binuksan ko ung Dell Optiplex 330 (Slim) dito sa office. safe na ba ko sa HEC 335W sa setup ko?

Dell Optiplex 330 CPU:
intel pentium dual core 1.8ghz
intel x3100 graphics
2 x 2gb ddr2 800
2 sata hdd
1 sata dvd-rom

ung PSU nya ay Dell 280W:

(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/dell_psu.jpg)



Get a 400w PSU.  Mas maganda kung may overhead.

Calculate your voltage here:

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 20, 2009 at 04:02 PM
good buy na ba ang HEC Raptor 500W for P2,000? used but with shop warranty until July 2009.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Feb 20, 2009 at 08:00 PM
nice looking slim desktop casing from Foxconn (Model: DH045). san kaya makakabili nito?

(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/FoxconnDH045.gif)

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/Product/Chassis/detail_overview.aspx?ID=en-us0000114# (http://www.foxconnchannel.com/Product/Chassis/detail_overview.aspx?ID=en-us0000114#)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 20, 2009 at 09:34 PM
nice po sir redone ang hec raptor 500
pero.. hindi po siya good buy at 2000pesos

2300 lang po bnew sa pchub..

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 20, 2009 at 09:38 PM
nice po sir redone ang hec raptor 500
pero.. hindi po siya good buy at 2000pesos

2300 lang po bnew sa pchub..

buti di ko pa nabili kanina sa seller. thanks. hanap ulit.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Feb 21, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Guys,

Just some hardware config tips on a budget but solid performance system for HTPC ... I wrote sometime ago about the good reviews that the AMD 780g chipset-based motherboard got for HTPC use ...reviews have mentioned that due to it's good hardware based HD video acceleration/decoding capabilities, it works very well even with entry level CPU's.

My brother recently asked me to build a computer for him - he's no heavy user, mainly for Internet browsing, emails, and listening to mp3 lang ... using my old Antec LANBOY casing with a HEC 550W PSU,  I built  a 780g-based system using the cheapest AMD single-core processor that I can purchase and tried-out the most demanding 1080p HD movies that I have ... the system didn't disappoint, it played all the 720p's and 1080p movies that I got without any issues - there's no need for dual-core CPU's or high-end graphics card if HTPC is your primary requirement, just use a 780g-based motherboard and a decent memory configuration.

Here's the setup that I made -

CPU - AMD Athlon 64 LE-1640 - PhP 2,000
Motherboard: Emaxx AMD780G-Pro - PhP 3,400
Memory: 2GB Geil DDR2 800 (1GB x2) - PhP 1,600
HDD: 500GB Seagate - PhP 3,000
Casing: ANTEC SuperLANBOY (from my old system)
PSU: 550W HEC Raptor (from my old system)
OS: Windows XP Home

If I bought the casing and PSU brand new, it's more expensive than the CPU, MoBo, Memory, and HDD  ;D

Another note, besides playing HD movies, the setup is surprisingly fast even when running MS Office 2007 and other tasks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 21, 2009 at 07:10 AM
@raptor: thanks for this insight. tipid nga talaga sa single-core. pero may ngsasabi kasi na dual-core daw ang need for HD playback kaya nalilito ako. ano ba talaga kuya ???

extra tipid rin kung may old casing + psu. di pa rin ako decided kung anong casing ang gagamitin ko. ung iCUte QS02 is P1,990 without psu. ung Modecom Slim 7502 with 300w (generic psu) is P2,200. ung HEC raptor 500w is P2,300.

mATX casing na lang kaya.. P1,000 without psu?

Foxconn TLM725: 13.86x7.09x15.98 in. (HxWxD)

(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/FoxconnTLM725_1copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Feb 21, 2009 at 10:19 AM
@raptor: thanks for this insight. tipid nga talaga sa single-core. pero may ngsasabi kasi na dual-core daw ang need for HD playback kaya nalilito ako. ano ba talaga kuya ???

extra tipid rin kung may old casing + psu. di pa rin ako decided kung anong casing ang gagamitin ko. ung iCUte QS02 is P1,990 without psu. ung Modecom Slim 7502 with 300w (generic psu) is P2,200. ung HEC raptor 500w is P2,300.

mATX casing na lang kaya.. P1,000 without psu?

Foxconn TLM725: 13.86x7.09x15.98 in. (HxWxD)

(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/FoxconnTLM725_1copy.jpg)


The single-core is more than enough if you'll just use it as media player, Internet, torrent downloads, and word processing stuff only ... if you're doing other stuff like encoding video (from video cam or other sources) or playing hardcore 3d games, you should at least get a dual-core cpu .... normally kasi yung mga nagbi-build ng HTPC, they have another workhorse PC to do those other stuff kaya pwede na single core.

Just wondering why the HEC PSU is quite cheap ...last time I bought the 550W HEC, it was around 4k or I probably bought the higher model - what i have was the one with the blue LED...HEC is highly recommended by the way for an HTPC setup - very reliable.

Regarding the casing, you're better off with the QS02 - pwede kasi sya i-position horizontally ... it will fit even a standard AV rack
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 21, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Very informative update Raptor.  I won't question you at all but I'm the type who'd stick with C2D to have spare power for whatever comes out.   ;D  Wala talagang kasinok sinok even sa 1080p maski single core?  That's great for that chipset ne.

Very stupid question - well more of Im too lazy to google question thanks to you and Sardaukar (still stuck in TAR marathon during my free time but Im getting very close to Season 14   ;D), can you possibly combine an Intel CPU with the 780G chipset or it has to be a full AMD combination?

And another question if I may, this low-cost PC configuration vs an NMT - which would you recommend as a second media player?

Cheers Bro.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Feb 21, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Very informative update Raptor.  I won't question you at all but I'm the type who'd stick with C2D to have spare power for whatever comes out.   ;D  Wala talagang kasinok sinok even sa 1080p maski single core?  That's great for that chipset ne.

Very stupid question - well more of Im too lazy to google question thanks to you and Sardaukar (still stuck in TAR marathon during my free time but Im getting very close to Season 14   ;D), can you possibly combine an Intel CPU with the 780G chipset or it has to be a full AMD combination?

And another question if I may, this low-cost PC configuration vs an NMT - which would you recommend as a second media player?

Cheers Bro.


Sir,

sabi ko na sa yo, nakaka-addict yung TAR  ;D

you can only use 780G chipset with AMD processor, the good news if you're a heavy user, you can use the same 780G motherboard for the high-end quad-core Phenom and Phenom II AMD processors ... if you would read the reviews of the new Phenom II, it beats the C2D's of Intel by a mile, even most of the core2 quad-core's, and at the price that is much lower than the new core i7

i would only recommend the single-core if it's only intended for HTPC and probably for downloading torrents - very low power consumption and less heat dissipation, and if you have a separate workhorse PC ... if you plan to use it for a lot more other purpose, an upgrade to a dual-core Athlon 64 x2 5000+ is actually less than PhP 1k away

low cost PC vs NMT - low cost PC is much much better IMO ... you can do everything with the low cost PC - walang issue ng DTS or any other format not supported which probably takes most of the space on the threads of PCH, Egreat, and WDTV, and the other non-supported stuff ... other stuff that I do with the PC when plug into my plasma tv on the living room is that I use it for Skype video calling with my sister and other relatives abroad - parang nasa bahay sila especially if there are family occasions ... one more thing that the NMT could not do is receiving the live streaming of PLDT DSL whenever there is a Manny Pacuiao fight (it requires Windows Media Player) - I get to watch it live at home on big screen ........... one caveat though - a low cost PC is still more expensive (probably twice) than an NMT, this is including the price of the OS.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Feb 21, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Very informative update Raptor.  I won't question you at all but I'm the type who'd stick with C2D to have spare power for whatever comes out.   ;D  Wala talagang kasinok sinok even sa 1080p maski single core?  That's great for that chipset ne.



forgot to answer this one on my post ...sir,  walang kasinok-sinok kahit doon sa mga 1080p na galing sa yo at iba ko pang downloads yung single-core ... i was really impressed ... although maganda talaga yung mga reviews, I was apprehensive at first, but after more than 20 1080p movies tested, wala pa rin issues
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 21, 2009 at 01:15 PM
@raptor: thanks for your advice. yes, my setup is for media playback only. the HEC Raptor 500W costs P2,300 in PC Hub and most of computer shops. so parang ito ung bang-for-the-buck ngayon.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 21, 2009 at 02:00 PM
i do not know much about amds po.. my setups usually consist of intels.. kaya sample ko nalang intel..

yes.. i do agree... madaling madali sa single core ang playing video.. but dahil sa mura ng processor po ngayon.. i would take something mid end.. like sa intel.. meron po celerons coreduos c2ds c2qs.. since 45nm na naman mga coreduos(E5200).. i think they are bang for buck.. which just cost around 3300pesos or even less pag bought unboxed.. 2.5ghz stock po.. but can easily run past 3ghz on stock hsf and past over 4ghz on aftermarket cooling.
kahit kaya po ng celerons play 1080p.. i prefer lang po yung.. kahit mas mahal ng konti(wag lang excess.. hehe sayang pera) but malaki ang improvement.. sometimes kasi you dont need the power naman.. but diba maganda yung alam mo na andyan lang yung power when you need it.. eheh

there are reliable motherboards in the market not for lga775 sockets which go for below 2t... naka solid caps pa yung ibang units.. usually has the 945chipsets(which is medyo luma na but still considerably good)..
asrocks go for around 1900 and emaxxs go for just above 2000pesos..

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Feb 21, 2009 at 02:16 PM
i do not know much about amds po.. my setups usually consist of intels.. kaya sample ko nalang intel..

yes.. i do agree... madaling madali sa single core ang playing video.. but dahil sa mura ng processor po ngayon.. i would take something mid end.. like sa intel.. meron po celerons coreduos c2ds c2qs.. since 45nm na naman mga coreduos(E5200).. i think they are bang for buck.. which just cost around 3300pesos or even less pag bought unboxed.. 2.5ghz stock po.. but can easily run past 3ghz on stock hsf and past over 4ghz on aftermarket cooling.
kahit kaya po ng celerons play 1080p.. i prefer lang po yung.. kahit mas mahal ng konti(wag lang excess.. hehe sayang pera) but malaki ang improvement.. sometimes kasi you dont need the power naman.. but diba maganda yung alam mo na andyan lang yung power when you need it.. eheh

there are reliable motherboards in the market not for lga775 sockets which go for below 2t... naka solid caps pa yung ibang units.. usually has the 945chipsets(which is medyo luma na but still considerably good)..
asrocks go for around 1900 and emaxxs go for just above 2000pesos..



sir,

nothing against intel's ... i'm actually using C2D for my workhorse PC .... for HTPC however, the integrated graphics processor of the 780G and the 790G chipsets of AMD are the best in that area ... you can try researching on tech sites ... even the latest integrated graphics of Intel and Nvidia on LGA775 socketed motherboards are loosing to the year-old 780G chipset ... another factor to consider with HTPC is the low power and low heat dissipation - this also means low noise which is very important for an HTPC, the fan does not have to be on high rpm .....even the standard cpu fan that comes with the single-core AMD has negligible noise levels

btw, amd's are no slouch in terms of reliability and performance...these were the choice of tech enthusiast and hardcore gamers - this is true from early 2000 to 2006, until the core2 duo came into play.... now they're back again with Phenom II (performing better than any Intel cpu at the same price point)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 21, 2009 at 02:31 PM
medyo nakukulitan ako dun sa isang shop. insist nya na mas reliable daw ung Gigabyte kaysa Emaxx.

Emaxx AMD780G-Pro - PhP 3,400
Gigabyte GA78GM-S2H (Rev 1.1) - PhP 3,850

may gumamit na ba sa inyo nitong Gigabyte?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Feb 21, 2009 at 03:50 PM
I've used my notebook , a Core Duo T2050 @1.6Ghz & 2GB RAM, connected to my 50in plasma via VGA cable and played a number of BD/HD video files (using VLC). Its not utilizing my entire TV screen.

Questions:
1. Is HDMI the only interface I need to fill up my TV screen? Will a VGA (or DVI) to HDMI adapter do the trick?
2. I tried much larger (6-10GB) video files and the VLC player simply choked. Will a much faster processor do this?
3. I do have another PC (C2D @ 1.8Ghz & 2GB RAM) that I'm grooming to become an HTPC. What's lacking here is the HDMI port. Are there any PCI-HDMI cards out there? I've checked some PC shops and they never even heard of it.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sardaukar on Feb 21, 2009 at 04:21 PM
Very stupid question - well more of Im too lazy to google question thanks to you and Sardaukar (still stuck in TAR marathon during my free time but Im getting very close to Season 14   ;D), can you possibly combine an Intel CPU with the 780G chipset or it has to be a full AMD combination?

Hehe. Tamang tama, so you can jump right in to the current season. Almost everybody agrees that the premiere of the current season is much better than past seasons. Hope it continues.

Sorry for the OT. :)


Para on topic @ straker

Try this recommendation by Clondalkin (you can click the link below to go to the discussion):

Your PC is up and running already so just DL and install, KMP Ver 1428 or higher, Media Player Classic, CoreAVC1.8.5 and AC3 Filter.   The instructions on how to set-up CoreAVC within KMP and MPC are already posted above.  KMP, MPC and AC3filter installations are just straightforward.

Get rid of the other codecs for the time being, divx, xvid, cccp - tanggalin mo lahat completely.   In case you want to use Windows Media Player for avi stuff, just DL and install the latest FFDshow - yun pinakamaganda PQ and AQ for AVI.   Keep the codecs at a minimum and your system tidy instead of installing packs and too many codecs.  To summarizAe ulit,  dalawang video codec lang recommendation ko - CoreAVC for KMP and MPC, FFDshow for WMP.  Then for audio, you need AC3filter para supported ang 5.1 channel encodes.    Tanggalin mo na rin yung VLC dahil di maganda and PQ nun.

Pag-ipunan mo ATI card (HD36xx, 3800xx, 46xx, 48xx - depende sa budget mo ang gaming needs).  You need a good card to drive the 32LG50 nicely at full HD settings. 

Naka XP ka naman so ok lang ang 2GB RAM.   But pag-ipunan mo pa rin to make it 4GB.

You need high def contents.

I think kaya naman dapat ng notebook mo. Won't hurt to try.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 21, 2009 at 04:59 PM
raptor i dont know how you setup your system, but if youre able to run 1080p smoothly on a single core processor then this i gotta see  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Feb 21, 2009 at 05:17 PM
I've used my notebook , a Core Duo T2050 @1.6Ghz & 2GB RAM, connected to my 50in plasma via VGA cable and played a number of BD/HD video files (using VLC). Its not utilizing my entire TV screen.

Questions:
1. Is HDMI the only interface I need to fill up my TV screen? Will a VGA (or DVI) to HDMI adapter do the trick?
2. I tried much larger (6-10GB) video files and the VLC player simply choked. Will a much faster processor do this?
3. I do have another PC (C2D @ 1.8Ghz & 2GB RAM) that I'm grooming to become an HTPC. What's lacking here is the HDMI port. Are there any PCI-HDMI cards out there? I've checked some PC shops and they never even heard of it.

1. AFAIK, "filling up" the screen depends on the aspect ratio of your media. 16:9 will fill up the screen regardless of what interface you use.  And I think VGA to HDMI are active adapters and are expensive (analog to digital), DVI to HDMI are just simple plug adapters (digital to digital).

2. Of course better system specs will be better, but try what Clondalkin said first as quoted by sardaukar. It worked for me on my Atom based htpc.

3. Just correct me if I'm wrong, as I understand, you want an HDMI output on a PCI slot? and what you have is only a PCI slot? the only thing I would recommend is a video card that has the Radeon HD 2400 Pro with PCI interface. I think Powercolor and Diamond produces this video card.  It has a DVI output which can easily be change to HDMI via adapter.  BTW, if you can find one, let me know. I've been looking for one since I built my Atom 330 rig which sadly only houses one PCI slot.  And in the end, PCI is a legacy interface which makes it more expensive. Either way, with regards to connecting an HTPC to an HDTV, personally, I'm good with a VGA connection.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Feb 22, 2009 at 12:46 AM
raptor i dont know how you setup your system, but if youre able to run 1080p smoothly on a single core processor then this i gotta see  ;D ;D


Sir,

Nothing special really on the setup ... i've posted the hardware config on my previous post and just loaded ffdshow, km player, and media player classic for the HD viewing ... i also assigned 512MB RAM to the integrated graphics processor .... although it's a single-core, the LE-1640 is a 2.7GHz CPU so it's actually fast

As per a lot tech reviews that I read, the integrated Radeon graphics controller of the 780g really does a lot of work on the video encoding and does not really make the processor work that much ... as I mentioned, I was also apprehensive at first -  the build was really intended for light PC use, mostly browsing, but when I tested it, I've proven that the reviews are real

Btw, the 128MB sideport memory of the Emaxx 780g MoBo may have also helped, and running the platform on Windows Xp instead of Vista may also have added to the good performance.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Feb 22, 2009 at 01:11 AM
medyo nakukulitan ako dun sa isang shop. insist nya na mas reliable daw ung Gigabyte kaysa Emaxx.

Emaxx AMD780G-Pro - PhP 3,400
Gigabyte GA78GM-S2H (Rev 1.1) - PhP 3,850

may gumamit na ba sa inyo nitong Gigabyte?

Gigabyte is one of the most popular brand in motherboards, parang Asus ... they were the first one to use all solid capacitors on their motherboards ... known sila for high-end and overclocking motherboards ... Gigabyte brand is highly recommended

Emaxx is a newcomer, and you'll barely find detailed reviews of this brand .... known din sila for lower cost of their products ... interestingly however, if you would visually check their motherboards, they are using good quality components similar to that of Gigabyte and Asus, plus there's added features such as the status LED which is usually available for high-end models only ... one feature na meron yung Emaxx na wala doon sa Gigabyte model na pinost mo is the 128MB sideport memory for the integrated graphics controller - available lang sya sa higher model pa ng Gigabyte
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 22, 2009 at 07:48 AM
forgot to answer this one on my post ...sir,  walang kasinok-sinok kahit doon sa mga 1080p na galing sa yo at iba ko pang downloads yung single-core ... i was really impressed ... although maganda talaga yung mga reviews, I was apprehensive at first, but after more than 20 1080p movies tested, wala pa rin issues
have you tried 1080p hd dvd r*ps?  e.g. band of brothers and breach.




medyo nakukulitan ako dun sa isang shop. insist nya na mas reliable daw ung Gigabyte kaysa Emaxx.
Emaxx AMD780G-Pro - PhP 3,400
Gigabyte GA78GM-S2H (Rev 1.1) - PhP 3,850
may gumamit na ba sa inyo nitong Gigabyte?
gigabyte is reliable yes, but that model is not.  :D


I've used my notebook , a Core Duo T2050 @1.6Ghz & 2GB RAM, connected to my 50in plasma via VGA cable and played a number of BD/HD video files (using VLC). Its not utilizing my entire TV screen.

Questions:
1. Is HDMI the only interface I need to fill up my TV screen? Will a VGA (or DVI) to HDMI adapter do the trick?
2. I tried much larger (6-10GB) video files and the VLC player simply choked. Will a much faster processor do this?
3. I do have another PC (C2D @ 1.8Ghz & 2GB RAM) that I'm grooming to become an HTPC. What's lacking here is the HDMI port. Are there any PCI-HDMI cards out there? I've checked some PC shops and they never even heard of it.
1.  scaling  / what is the current vga adapter brand?  intel, ati, nvidia?
2.  kmplayer + corecodec
3.  yes, whats your builtin card or current card specs? (if that is a typo and you really mean pci-e, i strongly recommend getting Palit ATi4670)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Feb 22, 2009 at 09:37 AM
Hello Ninjababez,

I'm using ATI x1650 PCI-e, dual DVI. Checking the manual, it can support HDMI, through an adapter, but only video. So I have to plug the PC's audio jacks to the TV. Looks like I do have to let go my card in TipidPC, and get myself another. Is Powercolor a good card, parang naging suki ko na kasi.

Checking my PC, it can support 7.1 audio which gave me another idea....can I turn this PC into a "low end" AVR? All it needs is 7.1 speaker set, and a BlueRay drive.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 22, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Gigabyte is one of the most popular brand in motherboards, parang Asus ... they were the first one to use all solid capacitors on their motherboards ... known sila for high-end and overclocking motherboards ... Gigabyte brand is highly recommended

Emaxx is a newcomer, and you'll barely find detailed reviews of this brand .... known din sila for lower cost of their products ... interestingly however, if you would visually check their motherboards, they are using good quality components similar to that of Gigabyte and Asus, plus there's added features such as the status LED which is usually available for high-end models only ... one feature na meron yung Emaxx na wala doon sa Gigabyte model na pinost mo is the 128MB sideport memory for the integrated graphics controller - available lang sya sa higher model pa ng Gigabyte

raptor, thanks for this info. i am more keen on getting the Emaxx now. i checked on their website, the EMX-AMD780G-PRO has 64MB sideport memory. or is this spec outdated? the newer EMX-AMD790GX-XTRM has the 128MB sideport memory.

nways be it 64MB or 128MB the reviews are still good.



Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Feb 22, 2009 at 07:35 PM
Fernando Montalban... I've come across a HDMI  card from Black Magic Designs. Check the link below

http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

I has two HDMI ports, input and output. It has a high-density D connector which serves as the classic RCA jack (stereo,component video,etc) kit, which is also supplied in the package

Its not here yet, but it commands a 200 USD price tag, and use a PCIe card. If the mobo only has one PCIe slot, todas ka na. Given that price, I'm better off looking for videocards with a built-in HDMI interface, even below half its price.

Maybe some affordable clone cards  may come soon.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Feb 22, 2009 at 07:58 PM
Asus also has graphic cards with HDMI output. you can contact Asus distro to check if it is available in the country.

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=2&l2=8 (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=2&l2=8)

since a graphics card will only output the video part, another option is to buy one with DVI output and use DVI-to-HDMI adaptor.

Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 card on the other hand can output both audio & video via HDMI.

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=25&l2=150&l3=0&l4=0&model=2355&modelmenu=1 (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=25&l2=150&l3=0&l4=0&model=2355&modelmenu=1)

(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/Temp1/asusxonar.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Feb 22, 2009 at 09:12 PM
Fernando Montalban... I've come across a HDMI  card from Black Magic Designs. Check the link below

http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

I has two HDMI ports, input and output. It has a high-density D connector which serves as the classic RCA jack (stereo,component video,etc) kit, which is also supplied in the package

Its not here yet, but it commands a 200 USD price tag, and use a PCIe card. If the mobo only has one PCIe slot, todas ka na. Given that price, I'm better off looking for videocards with a built-in HDMI interface, even below half its price.

Maybe some affordable clone cards  may come soon.

@straker
hehe yep... I've seen expansion cards with HDMI out as well, unfortunately, with my atom rig, it only has one PCI slot and not a PCI-E slot.  :( That is why I recommended the Radeon HD 2400 Pro with PCI interface becuse you mentioned on your original post...

3. I do have another PC (C2D @ 1.8Ghz & 2GB RAM) that I'm grooming to become an HTPC. What's lacking here is the HDMI port. Are there any PCI-HDMI cards out there? I've checked some PC shops and they never even heard of it.

That is why I thought you and I have the same problem. hehe typo lang pala...

In any case, I just have to look for video cards with PCI interface that is built for HD playback.  ;D Ang habol ko talaga is low power consumption since 24/7 bukas yung computer.  That is why the Little Falls 2 Motherboard with Intel Atom 330 is very ideal (although the chipset is not efficient).  I know, adding a vcard will add to the power consumption, but overall, the entire system will still be consuming less power relative to other computers. In the end, although the atom rig can play HD content flawlessly (provided that the media does not have video bit rates as high as 30Mbps), an upgraded video processing hardware would still add something to an already fully functional htpc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 22, 2009 at 10:20 PM
meron po ako mga nakikita nagbebenta is
dvi to hdmi adaptor
meron din po dvi to hdmi wire.. 5 meters po yata yung nakita ko
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 23, 2009 at 04:27 AM
Hello Ninjababez,

I'm using ATI x1650 PCI-e, dual DVI. Checking the manual, it can support HDMI, through an adapter, but only video. So I have to plug the PC's audio jacks to the TV. Looks like I do have to let go my card in TipidPC, and get myself another. Is Powercolor a good card, parang naging suki ko na kasi.

Checking my PC, it can support 7.1 audio which gave me another idea....can I turn this PC into a "low end" AVR? All it needs is 7.1 speaker set, and a BlueRay drive.

if youre to use your current video card, the load will be carried by your processor.  which is ok since it meets the requirement of playing hd contents. ;)
but since youre planning to do an upgrade, i suggest you get a ATi4670 (Palit brand or HIS brand).   8) 8)
PowerColor btw is one of the better brands, its just that the PowerColor 4670 that are sold here doesnt have audio via hdmi.   :P


nways be it 64MB or 128MB the reviews are still good.
i think im using the 64mb sideport version.  still ok with me :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 23, 2009 at 09:23 AM
Wait a minute, PCI interface as in Voodoo era card or as in pre AGPx1 card??? (circa mid 90s).    Meron ulit ganon na graphics card?    How will that interface handle the required bandwidth of HDMI? 

Well please correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Feb 23, 2009 at 12:12 PM

but since youre planning to do an upgrade, i suggest you get a ATi4670 (Palit brand or HIS brand).   8) 8)
PowerColor btw is one of the better brands, its just that the PowerColor 4670 that are sold here doesnt have audio via hdmi.   :P

Checking the Powercolor site, the 4600 series cards does have audio piped into the HMDI port, including the slightly lower-ended 3600 series. I'll keep this in mind.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Feb 23, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Wait a minute, PCI interface as in Voodoo era card or as in pre AGPx1 card??? (circa mid 90s).    Meron ulit ganon na graphics card?    How will that interface handle the required bandwidth of HDMI? 

Well please correct me if I am wrong.

I prefer PCI, as PCIe slots are not that many in most mobos. But what I'm seeing now the HDMI cards are in PCIe, which will restrict your options. Swerte ka kung 2 PCIe slots so you can have more HDMI ports on the PC.

The PC I have now has only one PCIe slot, already taken by my videocard. If I'm insane to turn it into an AVR, I need more HDMIs plugged via PCI, if it exists.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 23, 2009 at 01:26 PM
I prefer PCI, as PCIe slots are not that many in most mobos. But what I'm seeing now the HDMI cards are in PCIe, which will restrict your options. Swerte ka kung 2 PCIe slots so you can have more HDMI ports on the PC.

The PC I have now has only one PCIe slot, already taken by my videocard. If I'm insane to turn it into an AVR, I need more HDMIs plugged via PCI, if it exists.

I see.

Ang workable solution mo lang is an ATI powered graphics card with 7.1 channel audio through HDMI.  Pinaka-malaki pa rin ang selection ng Sapphire.  Pati 43xx series nila meron HDMI with 7.1 audio and passive cooling pa.  So upgrade your current card kung gusto mo ng audio through HDMI.

On paper, graphics card with HDMI out having PCI interface sounds like a blocked vein.  Audio alone is OK.  But combine it with high def video through the same channel?  Mas mabuti pa kung mag-invest ka on a very good PCI interface sound card.  Tapos yung PCI-E mo would be for video lang.
 
Hindi exactly swerte yung meron 2 PCI-E slots because you have to spend a lot of money for that kind of MOBO.

The idea of turning a PC into an AVR is not exactly insane.  It's just not feasible.

Kung plano mong dumerecho sa 7.1 speaker through your built-in 7.1 sound, I would imagine you need 7 analog connections.  Tingin ko lalabas ang sound but what about sound quality?  Kung gusto mong sigurista, just buy an HTIB and connect the SPDIF out of your PC to that.  Bibili ka rin lang ng 7.1 speaker, samahan mo na ng sariling amplifier kahit maliit.




Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Feb 23, 2009 at 01:47 PM
Wait a minute, PCI interface as in Voodoo era card or as in pre AGPx1 card??? (circa mid 90s).    Meron ulit ganon na graphics card?    How will that interface handle the required bandwidth of HDMI? 

Well please correct me if I am wrong.

Ah Voodoo cards...  takes me back in time to the days of yore, where the local bus could do 266 MB per second only if you were creative.   :D

Straker,

You could go to any reliable store in Gilmore (like PCHub and Foxconn) and ask to get the cheapest video card with an HDMI port on it (probably an ATI 4670 or 3870).  If you want to be a bit future-proof, you can look for the rare Palit video cards with DisplayPort on it, as they usually also come with HDMI (or adapters, at least).

Btw, why would you need multiple HDMI ports on your pc?

Kung plano mong dumerecho sa 7.1 speaker through your built-in 7.1 sound, I would imagine you need 7 analog connections.  Tingin ko lalabas ang sound but what about sound quality?  Kung gusto mong sigurista, just buy an HTIB and connect the SPDIF out of your PC to that.  Bibili ka rin lang ng 7.1 speaker, samahan mo na ng sariling amplifier kahit maliit.

Sounds like a plan!  There is, in fact, an enterprising fellow here in PDVD who makes his own amps which you can check out.  And from the comments I've seen, the products are actually very good.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Feb 23, 2009 at 06:18 PM
The idea of turning a PC into an AVR is not exactly insane.  It's just not feasible.

Kung plano mong dumerecho sa 7.1 speaker through your built-in 7.1 sound, I would imagine you need 7 analog connections.  Tingin ko lalabas ang sound but what about sound quality?  Kung gusto mong sigurista, just buy an HTIB and connect the SPDIF out of your PC to that.  Bibili ka rin lang ng 7.1 speaker, samahan mo na ng sariling amplifier kahit maliit.

Problem is, my HTiB has no SPDIF, only a single stereo aux input >:( Pakonswelo de bobo na lang if I can pipe the HDMI to my TV with audio and the PC stereo outputs plugged to my HTiB. Until I can have lotsa cash to spend on a real AVR.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 23, 2009 at 09:46 PM
asking for a little help ulit. i am buying a 1-month used X2 5000 procie and Emaxx 780G-PRO mobo (both with box and receipt). just so that i won't miss anything, ano ba ung full contents ng each box when bought from the pc shop? baka kasi may malimutan isama ung seller.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Feb 23, 2009 at 10:27 PM
asking for a little help ulit. i am buying a 1-month used X2 5000 procie and Emaxx 780G-PRO mobo (both with box and receipt). just so that i won't miss anything, ano ba ung full contents ng each box when bought from the pc shop? baka kasi may malimutan isama ung seller.


the processor only includes the fan ....the MoBo includes SATA cables, IDE cable, back plate, and the driver CD

if the processor is already used and uninstalled from the MoBo, you need to have thermal paste for the installation - you might need to buy this separately
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Feb 23, 2009 at 10:31 PM
I prefer PCI, as PCIe slots are not that many in most mobos. But what I'm seeing now the HDMI cards are in PCIe, which will restrict your options. Swerte ka kung 2 PCIe slots so you can have more HDMI ports on the PC.

The PC I have now has only one PCIe slot, already taken by my videocard. If I'm insane to turn it into an AVR, I need more HDMIs plugged via PCI, if it exists.

hehe sorry, di pala typo yun, PCI pala talaga yung gusto mo. Akala ko, gusto mo PCIe, kasi yung ni-recommend mo na HDMI card sa akin is PCIe pero what I needed was a PCI interface din. So same pala tayo, we both need PCI cards with HDMI.

Pero I think maganda yung sinabi ni Clondalkin: mag-invest ka on a very good PCI interface sound card.  Tapos yung PCI-E mo would be for video lang.

In my case, no choice na ako, I only have one PCI slot and wala akong PCIe. hehe  :) So if ever you find one, with PCI interface, that is locally available and reasonably priced, pa heads up na lang.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 24, 2009 at 05:42 AM
Problem is, my HTiB has no SPDIF, only a single stereo aux input >:( Pakonswelo de bobo na lang if I can pipe the HDMI to my TV with audio and the PC stereo outputs plugged to my HTiB. Until I can have lotsa cash to spend on a real AVR.
save your money ..  :)
it will be cheaper  :D

the processor only includes the fan ....the MoBo includes SATA cables, IDE cable, back plate, and the driver CD
if the processor is already used and uninstalled from the MoBo, you need to have thermal paste for the installation - you might need to buy this separately
unless its a black edition  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: comet on Feb 24, 2009 at 07:01 AM
Mga sir can I use a laptop for HTPC?  Here's the specs of the lenovo SL400:
•Intel Core 2 Duo T5670 (1.8Ghz)
 2MB Cache, 800Mhz FSB
•Intel GM45 Express Chipset
•1GB PC2-5300 667MHZ DDR2
•160GB 5400rpm HDD
•DVDRW Multiburner
•14.1"  WXGA(1280x800) TFT LCD Glossy
•DOS OS
•Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500
•Intel 5100AGN, Gigabit LAN, Bluetooth, Integrated Camera
•Built-in stereo speakers
•ThinkPad UltraNav
•4 USB 2.0, Firewire 1394; external display, RJ-11, RJ-45; Audio: Headphone/Line-out, external
 microphone, HDMI, 1Type I/II PC Card slot with 34mm ExpressCard via adapter,
•1 Secure Digital Card Slot
•6cell battery
•2.5Kg
•ThinkVantage Active Protection System
•Carrying Case
•Power Cord

Planning to upgrade my laptop, pagsabay ko na lang yung work at HTPC.  Thanks for the input!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 24, 2009 at 07:20 AM
Mga sir can I use a laptop for HTPC?  Here's the specs of the lenovo SL400:
•Intel Core 2 Duo T5670 (1.8Ghz)
 2MB Cache, 800Mhz FSB
•Intel GM45 Express Chipset
•1GB PC2-5300 667MHZ DDR2
•160GB 5400rpm HDD
•DVDRW Multiburner
•14.1"  WXGA(1280x800) TFT LCD Glossy
•DOS OS
•Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500
•Intel 5100AGN, Gigabit LAN, Bluetooth, Integrated Camera
•Built-in stereo speakers
•ThinkPad UltraNav
•4 USB 2.0, Firewire 1394; external display, RJ-11, RJ-45; Audio: Headphone/Line-out, external
 microphone, HDMI, 1Type I/II PC Card slot with 34mm ExpressCard via adapter,
•1 Secure Digital Card Slot
•6cell battery
•2.5Kg
•ThinkVantage Active Protection System
•Carrying Case
•Power Cord

Planning to upgrade my laptop, pagsabay ko na lang yung work at HTPC.  Thanks for the input!

im sure over 30k retail price nyan  :D
better get cq40 series from compaq .. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: comet on Feb 24, 2009 at 08:21 AM
Tama nga sir ninjababes,  Would the AMD based CQ40 be sufficient or should I get the Cq40 na Intel?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 24, 2009 at 06:04 PM
Is your laptop capable of surround audio or it's just the usual 2-ch stereo?  But even with only stereo audio out, you can manage with a good set of 2.1 speakers like Logitech Z4.

If you need 5.1 or 7.1 channel output on your laptop, then you can invest on an external audio processor from Creative (they sound pretty good actually but tend to be power hog), or, you can try to find those PC Card type audiocards.

I fancy this laptop especially it's 16" native 16:9 truebrite screen.

Toshiba Satellite A355-S6925 .
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: comet on Feb 25, 2009 at 12:52 AM
Not yet sure sir because I have not yet bought it.  In the review for the lenovo it says that its  hdmi port can send out both audio and video already.  If not I'll check on the creative audio processor.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 25, 2009 at 06:32 AM
Is your laptop capable of surround audio or it's just the usual 2-ch stereo?  But even with only stereo audio out, you can manage with a good set of 2.1 speakers like Logitech Z4.

If you need 5.1 or 7.1 channel output on your laptop, then you can invest on an external audio processor from Creative (they sound pretty good actually but tend to be power hog), or, you can try to find those PC Card type audiocards.

I fancy this laptop especially it's 16" native 16:9 truebrite screen.

Toshiba Satellite A355-S6925 .

i havent tried 5.1 or 7.1 on my cq40, but i think it can only do stereo, but an external audigy series only cost around 2k (atleast upgraded na ang sound card mo  :)  )
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Feb 25, 2009 at 09:35 PM
I bought a Palit 9500GT this morning and plugged on my PC. My PC died at first, took me a couple of hours reviving. Thank goodness it came to life!

With a HDMI cable plugged in between the PC and my Panny, to my disappointment, no audio.  >:( After some research in Palit's website, I can pipe the audio into HMDI port by plugging a bypass cable  to the SPDIF header on the mobo.

http://www.palit.biz/main/faq_show.php?pc_cate=vga&id=101

Bwisit! Kaya pala ako nagtataka para saan itong cable na ito. And nothing's mentioned in the manual. In fact, the manual tells only how to install the drivers and nothing of the card's technical details. Something Palit should have provided, which is crucial for my buying decision. The card's built-in HDMI port was all too irresistable. The Palit card is good and functions accordingly, it just simply didn't meet my expectation.

Despite my initial frustration (sorry for venting it here) my Panny started making noise! Most the BlueRay files I played, I had to max out the TV's volume control to get a respectable sound level. Maybe its in the files kaya bitin ang audio ko.

I'm trying to pipe the stereo outputs to my HTiB, all of the sudden, the TV came silent again. I dunno what went wrong. When pulling out my stereo cables, its back.

Here's what I used....
- xmbc medial player
- Palit 9500GT 1GB DDR2
- NAS200 network storage drive with 1TB drive, which serves as my video jukebox
- Acer E560C (C2D 1.8GHz, 2GB RAM)

I'll try other players and other options.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Feb 25, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Absent minded me... my other gear is TV is Panasonic 50PV80 &  Samsung HTQ-20 DVD-HTiB
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mm2002 on Feb 25, 2009 at 11:03 PM
mga sir for those who are looking for a pci video card check this videocard  by PNY http://www3.pny.com/FX-5200-256MB-PCI-P1732C16.aspx (http://www3.pny.com/FX-5200-256MB-PCI-P1732C16.aspx) I don't know if this card will able to produce a Good Video Quality for HD viewing, I have one like this that came from an old DELL pc, and haven't use it pa, planning to assemble a budget HTPC this weekend.

 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 26, 2009 at 11:33 AM
may alam pa ba kayong shop or seller ng iCute QS02?

nagpareserve ako sa PC Reform (Makati) last Tue. then yesterday pumunta ko for pickup, damaged naman ung last stock nila. sayang lang pamasahe ko.

nag-inquire din ako sa 2 seller pa from TipidPC, kaizen and tzilon. out of stock rin.

===

update: nakabili na ko ng AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+, Emaxx AMD780G-PRO-128, and Thermaltake KK-500A PSU.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 26, 2009 at 11:41 AM
may alam pa ba kayong shop or seller ng iCute QS02?

nagpareserve ako sa PC Reform (Makati) last Tue. then yesterday pumunta ko for pickup, damaged naman ung last stock nila. sayang lang pamasahe ko.

nag-inquire din ako sa 2 seller pa from TipidPC, kaizen and tzilon. out of stock rin.

===

update: nakabili na ko ng AMD Athlon64 X2 5000+, Emaxx AMD780G-PRO-128, and Thermaltake KK-500A PSU.

@red_one
try mo sila Quest Logic (http://tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=qlt_south) kung may stock sila.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 26, 2009 at 12:05 PM
thanks gunblade. out-of-stock din sa Quest Logic. QS-01 lang meron.  :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 26, 2009 at 03:36 PM
my friend po got a qs02 sa pcoptions gilmore.. a few weeks ago.. call nalang po muna kayo para di sayang punta..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 26, 2009 at 06:05 PM
my friend po got a qs02 sa pcoptions gilmore.. a few weeks ago.. call nalang po muna kayo para di sayang punta..

thanks AC. wala ngpi-pickup ng phone sa PC Options. i'll try my luck again tom. this weekend ko na ia-assemble ung unit e.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: momay on Feb 26, 2009 at 06:25 PM
mga sir for those who are looking for a pci video card check this videocard  by PNY http://www3.pny.com/FX-5200-256MB-PCI-P1732C16.aspx (http://www3.pny.com/FX-5200-256MB-PCI-P1732C16.aspx) I don't know if this card will able to produce a Good Video Quality for HD viewing, I have one like this that came from an old DELL pc, and haven't use it pa, planning to assemble a budget HTPC this weekend.

 

that card is useless for HTPC. if you really need a PCI vcard, better the 8400GS which is similarly priced.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 26, 2009 at 06:39 PM
that card is useless for HTPC. if you really need a PCI vcard, better the 8400GS which is similarly priced.

Brilliant suggestion Momay.  I think Albatron even has an 8600GT version of a PCI video card.  The other maker is Sparkle. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Feb 26, 2009 at 09:45 PM
ot.. nice to know that Emaxx logo and graphic designs were handled by Philippine-based DesignManila.

http://www.designmanila.com/ongoing/emaxx/ (http://www.designmanila.com/ongoing/emaxx/)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 27, 2009 at 12:12 AM
I bought a Palit 9500GT this morning and plugged on my PC. My PC died at first, took me a couple of hours reviving. Thank goodness it came to life!

With a HDMI cable plugged in between the PC and my Panny, to my disappointment, no audio.  >:( After some research in Palit's website, I can pipe the audio into HMDI port by plugging a bypass cable  to the SPDIF header on the mobo.

http://www.palit.biz/main/faq_show.php?pc_cate=vga&id=101

Bwisit! Kaya pala ako nagtataka para saan itong cable na ito. And nothing's mentioned in the manual. In fact, the manual tells only how to install the drivers and nothing of the card's technical details. Something Palit should have provided, which is crucial for my buying decision. The card's built-in HDMI port was all too irresistable. The Palit card is good and functions accordingly, it just simply didn't meet my expectation.

Despite my initial frustration (sorry for venting it here) my Panny started making noise! Most the BlueRay files I played, I had to max out the TV's volume control to get a respectable sound level. Maybe its in the files kaya bitin ang audio ko.

I'm trying to pipe the stereo outputs to my HTiB, all of the sudden, the TV came silent again. I dunno what went wrong. When pulling out my stereo cables, its back.

Here's what I used....
- xmbc medial player
- Palit 9500GT 1GB DDR2
- NAS200 network storage drive with 1TB drive, which serves as my video jukebox
- Acer E560C (C2D 1.8GHz, 2GB RAM)

I'll try other players and other options.
i thought i asked you to get a ati hd4670?  (both palit and HIS brand has its own audio chip, no need to passthrough from motherboard)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 27, 2009 at 04:11 AM
kung tama po ako.. emaxx motherboards is philippine brand eh.. imported by pctrends

well it is of good quality naman and price is very reasonable.. which is good
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Feb 27, 2009 at 09:52 AM
idol(s),

I'm planning to get a ws monitor (either 19" or 22") as replacement for my current 4:3 crt, I'm using a 3yo Powercolor 9250 agp card, I've checked that it has two 4:3 resolutions available, how can get it to display a 16:9 resolution to accomodate the new monitor?

help please  ;D TIA

PowerColor 9250 (http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_speci.asp?ProductID=40) ~ link to the vidcard

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: momay on Feb 27, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Brilliant suggestion Momay.  I think Albatron even has an 8600GT version of a PCI video card.  The other maker is Sparkle. 

that 8600gt was better, even better than 8800gt in DXVA. the 8600gt can do hardware acceleration of H.264/VC-1/AVCHD with no hiccups.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM
mga sir for those who are looking for a pci video card check this videocard  by PNY http://www3.pny.com/FX-5200-256MB-PCI-P1732C16.aspx (http://www3.pny.com/FX-5200-256MB-PCI-P1732C16.aspx) I don't know if this card will able to produce a Good Video Quality for HD viewing, I have one like this that came from an old DELL pc, and haven't use it pa, planning to assemble a budget HTPC this weekend.

 

I have this PCI videocard and it only outputs video via VGA which is analog.  It is good for your DVDs and downloaded Divx/Xvid files but for HD video I doubt it. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Feb 27, 2009 at 03:13 PM
idol(s),

I'm planning to get a ws monitor (either 19" or 22") as replacement for my current 4:3 crt, I'm using a 3yo Powercolor 9250 agp card, I've checked that it has two 4:3 resolutions available, how can get it to display a 16:9 resolution to accomodate the new monitor?

help please  ;D TIA

PowerColor 9250 (http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_speci.asp?ProductID=40) ~ link to the vidcard



Is getting a new video card out of the question?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Feb 27, 2009 at 03:21 PM
I'm hoping na hindi na sana  :-\
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Feb 27, 2009 at 03:45 PM
@Dowals:

just go ahead and buy your widescreen monitor. once you connect it to your video card, it will auto-detect and display the resolutions that it can support.

Quote
*16:9 aspect ratio monitors are supported on 1920x1080 and 848x480 on Microsoft® Windows® XP, Microsoft® Windows® 2000 and Microsoft® Windows® Me. The complete list of resolutions depends on the driver version and operating system. NOTE: resolutions are limited by the performance of the attached monitor. DVI-I monitors will be limited to 1600x1200.

http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9200/radeon9200/specs.html (http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon9200/radeon9200/specs.html)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Feb 27, 2009 at 08:03 PM
i thought i asked you to get a ati hd4670?  (both palit and HIS brand has its own audio chip, no need to passthrough from motherboard)

I was. My suki, PCX-Katipunan only had the HD3650 and 9500T. Bad call on my part to fall for the Palit card.  :(

I'll sell the card again soon and scout for one that has a HDMI port, sana.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Feb 27, 2009 at 09:40 PM
I was. My suki, PCX-Katipunan only had the HD3650 and 9500T. Bad call on my part to fall for the Palit card.  :(

I'll sell the card again soon and scout for one that has a HDMI port, sana.

Try:

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2511132

or

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2797602

Parehong sa Gilmore yan.  Naka-post naman yata yung mga landlines nila so try mo tawagan.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 28, 2009 at 08:22 AM
Knock Knock guyz ano best buy ngayon n harddisk 500gb or 1TB or 1.5TB... may nabasa ako regarding sa harddisk ng seagate na may version na lumabas si seagate ng once na corrupt daw ung data unaccessible na daw... may certain serial numbers na affected nitong issue na to.. anywayz ano ba ok planning kasi to buy one pero can't decide ano sulit hhehehe..

about sa VC ung friend ko nakabili sa pcexpress Sparkle na 9600gt 1gb 2100 lang as far as i know ok na ok walang problema pati sa gaming and nakainstall sa computer shop nia buhay pa naman y not try it sir baka magustuhan nio kung tipid mode kayo heheh..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Feb 28, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Knock Knock guyz ano best buy ngayon n harddisk 500gb or 1TB or 1.5TB... may nabasa ako regarding sa harddisk ng seagate na may version na lumabas si seagate ng once na corrupt daw ung data unaccessible na daw... may certain serial numbers na affected nitong issue na to.. anywayz ano ba ok planning kasi to buy one pero can't decide ano sulit hhehehe..

If you can get the 1.5TB for under 8k, then go for it.  If the 500GB is under 3k, ok rin.  If the 1TB is under 5.5K, good yon.


about sa VC ung friend ko nakabili sa pcexpress Sparkle na 9600gt 1gb 2100 lang as far as i know ok na ok walang problema pati sa gaming and nakainstall sa computer shop nia buhay pa naman y not try it sir baka magustuhan nio kung tipid mode kayo heheh..

I think 9500 yung nabili ng friend mo, kasi hindi bababa ng apat na libo ang 9500GT.  Instead of getting the Nvidia, mas sulit pa rin ang HD 4670, konti lang naman ang idadagdag.  Malakas na video card pero ok ang kuryente.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 28, 2009 at 03:13 PM
yan din po tinatarget ko now.. isang terabyte hd.. hehe

pero inaantay ko lumabas yung 2tb...

not to buy the 2tb... hehe kasi lagi sasabay sa drop yung 1 and 1.5tb units eh.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 28, 2009 at 10:07 PM
wala naman ba side effect un sa mga nakagamit na ng malalaking drive di ba mahirap magmanage ng file especialy puno na di ang bagal na ng response time nun kung walang defrag defrag d ba....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 01, 2009 at 12:20 AM
wala naman ba side effect un sa mga nakagamit na ng malalaking drive di ba mahirap magmanage ng file especialy puno na di ang bagal na ng response time nun kung walang defrag defrag d ba....

i'm using 1.5TB mixed with a a couple of 1TB HDD and a 500GB HDD on my PC - no issues on performance ... much easier to manage files because you do not have to move them around when your drive gets full - laki ng capacity .... only drawback with these large capacity drives is the initial installation - 1.5 TB almost takes 12 hours to format

btw, PC Hub is already pre-selling the 2TB HDD's at 12.5k
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Mar 01, 2009 at 08:55 AM
Try:

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2511132

or

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2797602

Parehong sa Gilmore yan.  Naka-post naman yata yung mga landlines nila so try mo tawagan.

Nothing's mentioned if the card has a separate audio. Most likely it will tap the mobo's SPDIF.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Mar 01, 2009 at 10:23 AM
i'm using 1.5TB mixed with a a couple of 1TB HDD and a 500GB HDD on my PC - no issues on performance ... much easier to manage files because you do not have to move them around when your drive gets full - laki ng capacity .... only drawback with these large capacity drives is the initial installation - 1.5 TB almost takes 12 hours to format

btw, PC Hub is already pre-selling the 2TB HDD's at 12.5k

wala bang Quick Format option? parang mahal yata ang 2TB @12.5k. mas mura ang 2 x 1TB.

update: i'm setting up my HTPC now.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Mar 01, 2009 at 11:57 AM
sir redone.. ang problema po ng multiple hd is sa case natin.. since htpc..

my case has room for only 2 hds.. kayalang.. mainit na pag.. kaya naisip ko 1 lang.. iniisip ko either 1tb or 1.5tb...


sir raptor.. papost naman po ng hdtune ng 1tb and 1.5tb hd niyo and kung anong brand sila? which would you suggest me to buy?

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 01, 2009 at 12:31 PM
wala bang Quick Format option? parang mahal yata ang 2TB @12.5k. mas mura ang 2 x 1TB.

update: i'm setting up my HTPC now.  ;D

Sir, there's a quick format option, but I prefer to do full format for a new drive - it's my way of doing a burn-in test para sure na walang problema yung bagong bili na drive  :)



sir redone.. ang problema po ng multiple hd is sa case natin.. since htpc..

my case has room for only 2 hds.. kayalang.. mainit na pag.. kaya naisip ko 1 lang.. iniisip ko either 1tb or 1.5tb...


sir raptor.. papost naman po ng hdtune ng 1tb and 1.5tb hd niyo and kung anong brand sila? which would you suggest me to buy?

thanks

I'm using WD Green 1TB with 32MB cache and the Seagate 1.5TB ... i'll try to download hdtune later, but for recommendations - I would recommend WD Green 1TB or if you need a bigger capacity, go directly to 2TB ... the 1.5TB Seagate generates a lot more heat than the WD Green
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 01, 2009 at 01:03 PM
Nothing's mentioned if the card has a separate audio. Most likely it will tap the mobo's SPDIF.
yun ni-recommend ko sayo ATi 4670 bro, 4k +/- palit brand or HIS.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Mar 01, 2009 at 01:14 PM
thanks po sir raptor..

#1 choice ko pa naman seagate.. hehe maganda kasi performance.. hehe naku... pagaaralan ko na uli which hd to buy

abangan ko nalang po post ng.. hdtune niyo sir..

since htpc boys tayo.. impt pa naman yung hindi masyado mainit na  hd

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Mar 01, 2009 at 08:26 PM
HTPC up and running now. here's the damage:

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ 2.7GHz >> P3,050.00
Board: Emaxx AMD780G-PRO-128 >> P3,350.00
RAM: 1GB Kingston DDR2 800 >> P650.00
HDD:   160GB Seagate SATA >> P1,850.00
Optical: Lite-On DVDRW Black (Lightscribe) SATA >> P1,250.00
PSU:   Thermaltake 500W >> P2,000.00
Casing: iCute QS02 >>   P1,980.00
Service: Assembly Charge >>   P0.00

Total >> P14,130.00

Future upgrade will be 4GB RAM and 1TB external HDD.  ;D

thanks sa mga tumulong sa akin through their suggestions and all!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 01, 2009 at 09:40 PM
A fast 7200rpm HDD for OS would be recommended whether it be Seagate or WD Black/Blue or Hitachi.   Then for the 2nd internal HDD, low power, low heat, low noise WD Green is an excellent choice.

Hindi naman problema ang defrag if the hard drive is used mainly as storage as long as hindi palit ng palit ng contents.  I check my data storage HDDs regularly and until now, the system checker is not recommending defrag for any of it.  No maintenance at all considering the amount of data I handle.

Meron HDD holders na same size sa dalawahan but can fit 3 or 4.  The one that fits 5 is a little bit longer but would still fit in a regular sized case.  The clearance between drives is obviously narrower but you can compensate for that by installing bigger cooling fan, in combination with "colder" hard drives like the WD Green.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Mar 01, 2009 at 10:15 PM
For HTPC owners using HDMI connected to a Samsung LCD TV (or any LCD if applicable)...
Are the options like DNIe or 100Hz Motion Plus available? My HT is connected by HDMI and almost all settings are available, is this also the case when you connect your HTPC by HDMI?

My HTPC is connected by VGA cable only and many settings are greyed out or inaccessible whenever I want to calibrate/optimize the television for video playback.

For all...
Will technology like DNIe and Motion Plus apply to HTPCs?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 01, 2009 at 10:17 PM
HTPC up and running now. here's the damage:

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ 2.7GHz >> P3,050.00
Board: Emaxx AMD780G-PRO-128 >> P3,350.00
RAM: 1GB Kingston DDR2 800 >> P650.00
HDD:   160GB Seagate SATA >> P1,850.00
Optical: Lite-On DVDRW Black (Lightscribe) SATA >> P1,250.00
PSU:   Thermaltake 500W >> P2,000.00
Casing: iCute QS02 >>   P1,980.00
Service: Assembly Charge >>   P0.00

Total >> P14,130.00

Future upgrade will be 4GB RAM and 1TB external HDD.  ;D

thanks sa mga tumulong sa akin through their suggestions and all!

Sir,

I would like to recommend at least an additional 1GB memory for at least 3 reasons - some of the memory have to be allotted to the integrated graphics card which will further degrade your memory capacity; the MoBo is designed for dual-channel memory - you will not get the optimum performance with single memory module installed (only half the bandwidth of memory is utilized); and the third reason, if you're going to run Vista, performance slow down may be noticeable with less than 1GB usable system memory.

Good build however sir .... congrats on your new system ... btw, please comment on the noise level produced by the fans ... i considered building an htpc using an i-cute QS02 and I was advised to replace the fans with Zalman or the likes for a quieter system ....thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Mar 01, 2009 at 11:10 PM
need your help guys. i connected my HTPC to Panasonic 32LX80 via VGA cable but no image was displayed on the TV. Blackout display.
when i connect my laptop to LX80, the display is OK.

i did some testing using my Viewsonic 4:3 LCD monitor and here are the results:

1. Laptop to Pana LX80. Display is OK on LX80. Resolution @ 1280x800 (native resolution of Laptop).
2. HTPC to Viewsonic. Display is OK on monitor. Resolution @ 1280x1024 (native resolution of Viewsonic).
3. HTPC to Pana LX80. I transferred the VGA cable from Viewsonic to LX80. No display on LX80. Blackout.

I reconnected the HTPC to Viewsonic. I changed the resolution to 800x600. Then I transferred the VGA cable from Viewsonic to LX80.

4. HTPC to Pana LX80. Display is OK on LX80. Resolution @ 800x600.

do you have similar experience with your Emaxx EMX-780G-PRO board? how can i set 1280x800 resolution to LX80?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: fernando_montalban on Mar 01, 2009 at 11:57 PM
need your help guys. i connected my HTPC to Panasonic 32LX80 via VGA cable but no image was displayed on the TV. Blackout display.
when i connect my laptop to LX80, the display is OK.

i did some testing using my Viewsonic 4:3 LCD monitor and here are the results:

1. Laptop to Pana LX80. Display is OK on LX80. Resolution @ 1280x800 (native resolution of Laptop).
2. HTPC to Viewsonic. Display is OK on monitor. Resolution @ 1280x1024 (native resolution of Viewsonic).
3. HTPC to Pana LX80. I transferred the VGA cable from Viewsonic to LX80. No display on LX80. Blackout.

I reconnected the HTPC to Viewsonic. I changed the resolution to 800x600. Then I transferred the VGA cable from Viewsonic to LX80.

4. HTPC to Pana LX80. Display is OK on LX80. Resolution @ 800x600.

do you have similar experience with your Emaxx EMX-780G-PRO board? how can i set 1280x800 resolution to LX80?

From step 4, did you try other resolutions, other than @ 800x600, where the HTPC to Pana LX80 worked? If other resolutions work, then maybe the LX80 simply does not support the 1280x1024 if you did Step 2 then Step 3 in order, as the PC is still in 1280x1024.  As you said, the 1280x800 resolution worked on your laptop to LX80 so the TV supports that resolution.  In any case, try setting the HTPC to Viewsonic to 1280x800 resolution, if it is supported by the Viewsonic, then transfer the cable to the LX80.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Mar 02, 2009 at 09:21 PM
From step 4, did you try other resolutions, other than @ 800x600, where the HTPC to Pana LX80 worked? If other resolutions work, then maybe the LX80 simply does not support the 1280x1024 if you did Step 2 then Step 3 in order, as the PC is still in 1280x1024.  As you said, the 1280x800 resolution worked on your laptop to LX80 so the TV supports that resolution.  In any case, try setting the HTPC to Viewsonic to 1280x800 resolution, if it is supported by the Viewsonic, then transfer the cable to the LX80.

i could only get the LX80 to accept 1024x768 from HTPC... anything higher than 1024x768, the LX80 blacks out.  :(

i tried the HDMI connection to LX80. 1280x800 worked but the picture quality is not good. i switched back to VGA cable.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaypd97 on Mar 03, 2009 at 04:04 PM
mga sir i have a 32 inch pana.pag nakakabit sa pc may konting hindi nakukuha sa screen...:/
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Mar 03, 2009 at 05:03 PM
the LX80 has max supported resolution of 1344x768. it automatically adjusts the video signal to fit the whole screen.

with your source @ 1280x800, it will stretch the 1280 (H) and compress the 800 (V).
with your source @ 1024x768, it will stretch the 1024 (H) and retain the 768 (V).

unless your source can output at exactly 1344x768, the LX80 would not have 1:1 pixel ratio and will result in some compensation. just select the resolution that gives the best result.

you can adjust V position and H position via PC Setup menu. refer to your TV manual.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 03, 2009 at 05:29 PM
mga sir i have a 32 inch pana.pag nakakabit sa pc may konting hindi nakukuha sa screen...:/

Set the overscan to zero within windows.

What is your graphics card?  If you're powered by ATI, go inside CCC (Catalyst Control Center) and make sure to set the overscan to zero.  If that is not enough, you can likewise scale down the view to have an exact fit on the screen  - you might end up with some "irregular" resolution.

There must be something similar within Nvidia's control center.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nanashi on Mar 03, 2009 at 09:44 PM
Sa Pana LCD TV using HTPC - minsan ho ba nagblaback out ba yun screen niyo ng 1-2 secs while using it as PC monitor pero may sound naman at green LED indicator sa LCD TV? Kasi sa akin po madalas ganun. May naka experience po ba nito? Natural lang ba?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaypd97 on Mar 03, 2009 at 10:13 PM
ito po specs ng ko...

k lng po ba specs ng pc ko.pwede n po ba ito or malakas msyado sa kuryente?

e6600 proc
2gb RAM
8800gt videocard

pinagiisipan ko kasi kung bili pako ng HT or ito na lang pc ko...btw, meron na din po pala kong wdtv

ano po ba mas magnda gawin? just buy a speaker like z5500 and connect it to the WDTV? or buy an HT?

thanks mga sir :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 03, 2009 at 11:36 PM
k lng po ba specs ng pc ko.pwede n po ba ito or malakas msyado sa kuryente?

e6600 proc
2gb RAM
8800gt videocard

pinagiisipan ko kasi kung bili pako ng HT or ito na lang pc ko...btw, meron na din po pala kong wdtv

ano po ba mas magnda gawin? just buy a speaker like z5500 and connect it to the WDTV? or buy an HT?


1.  All you need are high def contents.

2.  Medyo malakas sa power consumption ang 8800GT kahit idle and that card has relatively inferior high def engine because the thinking then was, a PC having 8800GT would have a pretty powerful CPU in the first place - and that's exactly what you have.  I suppose you are a heavy PC gamer hence, the 8800GT.   Which do you think is more economical for you - use the system as is or spend money for a new graphics card? 

3. Z5500 is not exactly cheap.  It's as costly as a decent HTIB.  It's even more expensive than an entry level AVR from Yamaha or Denon.

4. That kind of PC specs can play everything, including those that the WDTV may not be able to handle, especially 1080p files.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaypd97 on Mar 04, 2009 at 01:05 AM
thanks sir Clondalkin :)

ano tingin niyo sir z5500 or HTIB? :)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 04, 2009 at 05:42 AM
i could only get the LX80 to accept 1024x768 from HTPC... anything higher than 1024x768, the LX80 blacks out.  :(
i tried the HDMI connection to LX80. 1280x800 worked but the picture quality is not good. i switched back to VGA cable.
turn off the overscan of your tv btw.  then adjust it via windows (the overscan).  you can either turn it off has what clondalkin suggested, or simply tweak it for windows to maximize your display  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Mar 04, 2009 at 07:50 AM
turn off the overscan of your tv btw.  then adjust it via windows (the overscan).  you can either turn it off has what clondalkin suggested, or simply tweak it for windows to maximize your display  ;)

how to turn off overscan in ATI control center? is this for both VGA and HDMI connection?

i will try it later. ngtataka lang kasi ako coz the laptop's 1280x800 resolution was accepted by LX80 without any problem. it has Intel 4500HD graphics only.

side note: lagpas ung depth ng QS02 sa TV shelf ko. i am scouting for a new casing. will just sell the QS02 afterwards.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 04, 2009 at 09:28 AM
ano tingin niyo sir z5500 or HTIB? :)

I think pareho lang halos if you choose a good set of HTIB.   Z5500 sounds more powerful than "cheap" HTIBs.

What about entry level AVR + 5.1 set of speakers?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Mar 06, 2009 at 01:23 PM
yun ni-recommend ko sayo ATi 4670 bro, 4k +/- palit brand or HIS.  ;)

Already retired the 9500GT and plugged in the HIS HD4670. Got the Panny making noise, but I still can't get the mobo's own audio chip (Realtek) to work alongside. I can get the TV and the mobo to sound off individually, but not when in unison during playback. I tried XMBC and the Windows Media Player.

Penitensya ko ata ngayon ah....think, think, think.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 07, 2009 at 01:30 AM
Already retired the 9500GT and plugged in the HIS HD4670. Got the Panny making noise, but I still can't get the mobo's own audio chip (Realtek) to work alongside. I can get the TV and the mobo to sound off individually, but not when in unison during playback. I tried XMBC and the Windows Media Player.

Penitensya ko ata ngayon ah....think, think, think.
check the audio devices under device manager, you can choose the default audio device that you want to use  ;)

(you can also right click the icon for sound under the system tray to choose the default audio device)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Mar 07, 2009 at 07:42 AM
check the audio devices under device manager, you can choose the default audio device that you want to use  ;)

(you can also right click the icon for sound under the system tray to choose the default audio device)

I did tweak that setting as well. Setting the default device means I can only choose one and not both. One chip for the TV and the other to drive my HTiB, via aux RCA stereo inputs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Mar 07, 2009 at 08:26 AM
What about entry level AVR + 5.1 set of speakers?
+1 ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Mar 10, 2009 at 03:54 AM
Here's a box I recommended for someone who requested a rig costing approx. P25,000 which can play games and has HDMI:

Intel™Core 2 Duo™ E8400 3.0 ghz 6mb 1333fsb qdr box (lga775) C2D P8500
Asus P5Q-VM  P6500
Kingston™ 2g ddr2 800  P999
Palit ATI HD 4670 Super 512mb (128bit) ddr3  P3950
HEC 500w Raptor Power. P2300
LG™ 22x dvdrw dual layer sata ls lightscribe P1250
Icute Slim Htpc black casing w/LCD monitoring display  P1980

Total Price:  P25,479

Since the 4670 doesn't really draw a lot of juice, you can choose not to get the HEC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tediber on Mar 10, 2009 at 04:52 AM
nagsawa na ko sa gaming rig hehehehe ...... dito naman tayo sa HTPC =)

nalipat at nabuo ko din HTPC/gaming rig ko hehehehe

[email protected] cooled by Coolermaster Geminii S
2x2gb Team Elite DDR2-800 @ 458mhz
2x150gb WD Raptor
LG DVD writer
HEC 550W AB

and for the killer ..... Palit HD4870 1gb (whew !!! kumasya !!! heheheh)

Icute QS02 htpc casing - bang for the buck HTPC casing !!!

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http://

95% complete ..... modding na lang ng takip for additional fans ..... the videocard needs more air intake.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 10, 2009 at 08:52 AM
What about this gaming/HTPC configuration courtesy of Raptor:

Processor: AMD Phenom X4 9650 Quad Core 2.3GHz >> P6,700.00
Board: Emaxx AMD780G-PRO-128 >> P3,350.00
RAM: 2GB (1GB x2) Geil DDR2 800 >> P1,550.00
HDD:   500GB Seagate SATA >> P3,000.00
Optical: Lite-On DVDRW Black (Lightscribe) SATA >> P1,250.00
PSU:   Thermaltake 500W >> P2,000.00
Casing: iCute QS02 >>   P1,980.00
Graphics:  ATI 4670 >> P3,950

Sub-Total >> P23,780

Licensed Vista >>  P5,000  - I dont understand why you guys would rather not write this significant cost in the list.

Total:  P28,780


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Mar 10, 2009 at 09:35 AM
^sa setup ko, di ko na sinama ung Licensed Vista kasi di naman ako bumili. i used my old XP Pro installer.

P3,090 po ung Thermaltake 500W. binili ko sa friend ko kaya naging P2,000. i already stated this in the other thread. sorry for the confusion.

HEC Raptor 500W is P2,300 so it can be an alternative.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Mar 10, 2009 at 05:42 PM
What about this gaming/HTPC configuration courtesy of Raptor:

Processor: AMD Phenom X4 9650 Quad Core 2.3GHz >> P6,700.00
Board: Emaxx AMD780G-PRO-128 >> P3,350.00
RAM: 2GB (1GB x2) Geil DDR2 800 >> P1,550.00
HDD:   500GB Seagate SATA >> P3,000.00
Optical: Lite-On DVDRW Black (Lightscribe) SATA >> P1,250.00
PSU:   Thermaltake 500W >> P2,000.00
Casing: iCute QS02 >>   P1,980.00
Graphics:  ATI 4670 >> P3,950

Sub-Total >> P23,780

Licensed Vista >>  P5,000  - I dont understand why you guys would rather not write this significant cost in the list.

Total:  P28,780

A few questions:

1)  Why get a 780G chipset mobo when you're getting a 4670 anyway?
2)  Please note that not all HD4670's have built-in HDMI ports.  What brand do you have in mind?
3)  Get 1 stick of 2GB RAM instead of 2 x 1GB; do you plan to add RAM in the future?
4)  If you plan on using Windows Media Center, the license will not be P5000.  Which version of Vista do you want?
5)  Why do you need 4 cores?

Btw, the reason I don't add the OS price on quotes is because Windows has so many damn versions, each with a different price.  And since an OS is software, I feel it shouldn't be included in a hardware price quotation.  A separate spec sheet for software can easily be arranged if the user needs it.

Besides, linux is always available, anyway. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: richmondes. on Mar 10, 2009 at 05:49 PM
TOWER: Lian LI Lancool PC-K7B Secc ATX MID Tower ATX- 4,100
(I’m not very particular w/ casing but my graphic card is huge and wont fit on smaller case so I needed a tower w/ a lot of space and w/ a good ventilation since my card can go up to 90 degrees celcius)
GRAPHIC CARD: HIS ATI RADEON HD4870 X2 2GB DDR5 – 19,000
( I got this one cheap since its price when I bought it is around 26k. It overclocks great, no noise unless you tried overclocking it to the max, most energy efficient ati card as per ati ofcourse)
PROCESSOR: INTEL Q9550 2.83 GHz – 15000
(for gaming I’d prefer quad cores than icores base on what I’ve heard)
HDD: SEAGATE 320GB 7200RPM SATA – 2,800
MOBO: ASUS P5K-SE P35 1333FSB – 4,850
MEMORY: KINGSTON DDR2 800 2GB – 1,100
OPTICAL DRIVE:LG DVRRW – 1,200
PSU: HEC ZEPHYR 750 WATTS – 6,000
( I need a psu w/ atleast 650w and 8 pin pcie power connector and this is the cheapest one I could find)

now I need a sound card.. any recommendation?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: red_one on Mar 10, 2009 at 07:02 PM
agree ako kay sir Verbl Kint, mas ok pag-usapan ung spec ng hardware. masyado marami variant ung OS. it's up to the user eventually kung ano trip nya.

@richmondes: astig setup mo bro. video card pa lang ka-price na ng HTPC unit ng normal user. gaming rig + workstation na ung setup mo e.  ;D try mo Asus Xonar or Creative X-Fi Titanium audio cards.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: momay on Mar 10, 2009 at 07:03 PM
TOWER: Lian LI Lancool PC-K7B Secc ATX MID Tower ATX- 4,100
(I’m not very particular w/ casing but my graphic card is huge and wont fit on smaller case so I needed a tower w/ a lot of space and w/ a good ventilation since my card can go up to 90 degrees celcius)
GRAPHIC CARD: HIS ATI RADEON HD4870 X2 2GB DDR5 – 19,000
( I got this one cheap since its price when I bought it is around 26k. It overclocks great, no noise unless you tried overclocking it to the max, most energy efficient ati card as per ati ofcourse)
PROCESSOR: INTEL Q9550 2.83 GHz – 15000
(for gaming I’d prefer quad cores than icores base on what I’ve heard)
HDD: SEAGATE 320GB 7200RPM SATA – 2,800
MOBO: ASUS P5K-SE P35 1333FSB – 4,850
MEMORY: KINGSTON DDR2 800 2GB – 1,100
OPTICAL DRIVE:LG DVRRW – 1,200
PSU: HEC ZEPHYR 750 WATTS – 6,000
( I need a psu w/ atleast 650w and 8 pin pcie power connector and this is the cheapest one I could find)

now I need a sound card.. any recommendation?


your mobo already has a coaxial spdif. it sufficient for digital sound, unless ofcourse you're going to use optical.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 10, 2009 at 07:07 PM
No problem.  Here are my thoughts.


1)  Why get a 780G chipset mobo when you're getting a 4670 anyway?
Because its a gaming PC as well.  You wanna game with on-board graphics?

2)  Please note that not all HD4670's have built-in HDMI ports.  What brand do you have in mind?
I know.  I have a 4850 and a 3870 and neither one has HDMI but I still connect to HDMI via the ATI supplied DVI-D/HDMI adapter and get full 1080p out of it.  I connect audio separately though (through SPDIF).   I like Sapphire because they have the widest range of ATI based cards but any card would do, whichever is available locally.  I simply copied your price for the 4670.

3)  Get 1 stick of 2GB RAM instead of 2 x 1GB; do you plan to add RAM in the future?
Im totally ignorant of AMD powered system (this is Raptor's idea BTW), but please clarify if similar to Intel systems, should DDR2 RAMs be installed in pairs (dual-channel) in order to reach maximum performance?   or oks lang na paisa-isa?

4)  If you plan on using Windows Media Center, the license will not be P5000.  Which version of Vista do you want?

Bro Ninjababez is offering his licensed Windows Vista Ultimate for this price.  Maybe less  ;D  And I can get OEM version of Windows Home Premium for around that price.  However, I dont personally recommend Windows Media Center but that's very subjective.  Straight KMP or MPC-HC with codec is fine.

5)  Why do you need 4 cores?
Because its a gaming PC as well.


Btw, the reason I don't add the OS price on quotes is because Windows has so many d**n versions, each with a different price.  And since an OS is software, I feel it shouldn't be included in a hardware price quotation.  A separate spec sheet for software can easily be arranged if the user needs it.

Besides, linux is always available, anyway.

Ok at least now it's clear that the intention is to separate the software from the hardware price.  That's fine.  Still 20-25% of the total PC price is still too significant not to be mentioned, unless you assume that most people would not have to spend this much.  My supposition is, most people SHOULD/MUST pay for OS and it's not cheap relative to the total cost of the system.

Questions (I really dont know the answers to this):
How's Linux with gaming anyway?  

How's Linux with Torrents (can it reach the same maximum potential speed that one can get using popular torrent servers such as Utorrent)?  If Im reaching 10MB/sec DL speed using Windows, is there any merit to using Linux?      

How many percent of HTPC/PC/Gamers are Linux literate?  I can appreciate that it's cool to learn it though.

Cheers
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 10, 2009 at 08:53 PM
No problem.  Here are my thoughts.


1)  Why get a 780G chipset mobo when you're getting a 4670 anyway?
Because its a gaming PC as well.  You wanna game with on-board graphics?

3)  Get 1 stick of 2GB RAM instead of 2 x 1GB; do you plan to add RAM in the future?
Im totally ignorant of AMD powered system (this is Raptor's idea BTW), but please clarify if similar to Intel systems, should DDR2 RAMs be installed in pairs (dual-channel) in order to reach maximum performance?   or oks lang na paisa-isa?
 

How's Linux with Torrents (can it reach the same maximum potential speed that one can get using popular torrent servers such as Utorrent)?  If Im reaching 10MB/sec DL speed using Windows, is there any merit to using Linux?      

How many percent of HTPC/PC/Gamers are Linux literate?  I can appreciate that it's cool to learn it though.



Regarding item no. 1, another option is a Radeon 3xxx video card instead of a 4xxx model ....reason for this is that you can configure the onboard video controller of the 780g motherboard in tandem with a Radeon 3xxx card for hybrid crossfire ...3xxx din kasi integrated graphics ng 780g kaya pwede sya crossfire config with another 3xxx card

Item no. 3, AMD motherboards also employ dual-channel memory controllers ... 2x 1GB would perform better than single 2GB stick ... for upgrades, you have another 2 slots free

Linux would basically have the same performance in downloading torrents as a Windows platform PC with the same Internet bandwidth connection
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Mar 10, 2009 at 09:18 PM
Just an update on my would be HTPC rig

PC system
- Acer E560C (C2D 1.8GHz, 2GB RAM)
- 2 X 160gb SATA (Hitachi & Seagate)
- 2 DVD burners
- HIS HD4670 512MB DDR3
- 250W PSU (would you believe?)

Software
- Windows Vista
- XMBC

Media drive
- NAS200 network storage drive with 1TB drive, which serves as my video jukebox

HTiB
- Samsung HTQ20 (still studying how to get the other audio channel to fire off my HTiB)

TV
- Panasonic 50PV80, connected via HDMI
- 2 Acer 19in displays, for gaming or typical PC applications.

My PSU broke down recently, and I brought it to Acer for repair, being covered by the 3yr warranty, which was free when I bought it. Actually sulit ako...I got a mobo replacement a more than a year ago and now this.  ;D All of it for free!

Since they'll replace the PSU, I'm asking for a higher spec model, pero ayaw nila. shux. I still have 9 months so I'll keep this rig busy.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 10, 2009 at 09:33 PM

Regarding item no. 1, another option is a Radeon 3xxx video card instead of a 4xxx model ....reason for this is that you can configure the onboard video controller of the 780g motherboard in tandem with a Radeon 3xxx card for hybrid crossfire ...3xxx din kasi integrated graphics ng 780g kaya pwede sya crossfire config with another 3xxx card

Item no. 3, AMD motherboards also employ dual-channel memory controllers ... 2x 1GB would perform better than single 2GB stick ... for upgrades, you have another 2 slots free

Linux would basically have the same performance in downloading torrents as a Windows platform PC with the same Internet bandwidth connection

Thanks Raptor. 

Regarding graphics, Im not sure if it is effective to hybrid crossfire a 4670 or a 3870 (Im using these models as their current market prices are very similar) with the onboard graphics (is it 3200 class on the 780G?).    These 2 particular ATIs would be too powerful compared to a 3200 and should be more than sufficient as single cards (unless we're talking really hardcore gamers who need 4870x2 graphics engine).   On the other hand, by getting anything slower than these 2 graphics cards, the quality of PC Gaming would probably be compromised.

Dual channel memory configuration - I thought so too.

Please educate us some more about Linux   ;D.   Can I run KMP, MPC and Utorrent using Linux? 

 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 11, 2009 at 12:53 AM

Please educate us some more about Linux   ;D.   Can I run KMP, MPC and Utorrent using Linux? 

 

KMP and VLC works ...there's no MPC, but there are a lot of other available players that are at par or even better than MPC - there's the SMPlayer for one

Equivalent of Utorrent is Ktorrent ... if you really want to use Utorrent, you can run Utorrent on emulated mode, but Ktorrent should be just fine

If you want to test Linux, you can download or request for a DVD installer of Ubuntu Linux (available in 32 and 64-bit version, there's also a version for Mac) ... they will deliver the DVD installer to your place free of charge (of course free din license and you can copy and install unlimited) - you just have to register on their site - www.ubuntu.com ... the good thing about their installer DVD is that you can run Linux from the DVD without installing anything on your hard drive - just boot on the DVD ...this is a good way to test drive Linux especially for new users, or this is also useful if your Windows OS crashed and you want to access your hard drive to retrieve your user files

Installation of Ubuntu Linux is very similar to Windows no-brainer ... Interface after installation is very similar to Linux ... standard install would include OpenOffice (equivalent of MS Office and basically works the same as MS Office)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Mar 11, 2009 at 01:45 AM
No problem.  Here are my thoughts.


1)  Why get a 780G chipset mobo when you're getting a 4670 anyway?
Because its a gaming PC as well.  You wanna game with on-board graphics?

Then you wouldn't need the on-board graphics.  The 4670 would take care of everything.  Grab a board without a built-in video card and free up some bus space.  ;)



3)  Get 1 stick of 2GB RAM instead of 2 x 1GB; do you plan to add RAM in the future?
Im totally ignorant of AMD powered system (this is Raptor's idea BTW), but please clarify if similar to Intel systems, should DDR2 RAMs be installed in pairs (dual-channel) in order to reach maximum performance?   or oks lang na paisa-isa?

Sayang kasi yung slot pag 1GB lang ilalagay mo.  You can get 2GB now and get 2GB in the near future and still have 2 other slots free.  Pag mATX yung board mo you usually have just 2 slots so getting 2GB now maximizes the little space that you have.   :) 

4)  If you plan on using Windows Media Center, the license will not be P5000.  Which version of Vista do you want?

Bro Ninjababez is offering his licensed Windows Vista Ultimate for this price.  Maybe less  ;D  And I can get OEM version of Windows Home Premium for around that price.  However, I dont personally recommend Windows Media Center but that's very subjective.  Straight KMP or MPC-HC with codec is fine.

Sweet!  Bargain yan.   ;D

5)  Why do you need 4 cores?
Because its a gaming PC as well.

AFAIK, very few games are optimized to run on 4 cores (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).  In terms of performance, high-end dual-core procs actually outperform quad-cores on quite a number of benchmarks.

Ok at least now it's clear that the intention is to separate the software from the hardware price.  That's fine.  Still 20-25% of the total PC price is still too significant not to be mentioned, unless you assume that most people would not have to spend this much.  My supposition is, most people SHOULD/MUST pay for OS and it's not cheap relative to the total cost of the system.

I agree.

Questions (I really dont know the answers to this):
How's Linux with gaming anyway?  

Without emulators, gaming would be very limited on Linux.

How's Linux with Torrents (can it reach the same maximum potential speed that one can get using popular torrent servers such as Utorrent)?  If Im reaching 10MB/sec DL speed using Windows, is there any merit to using Linux?      

In addition to what raptor mentioned, Mythbuntu is also good as it's HTPC-driven.  Btw, BitTorrent was originally coded on Linux, and so was VLC.  Speeds should not be a problem.

10 MBps?  Are you in Korea/Japan/Scandinavia?


How many percent of HTPC/PC/Gamers are Linux literate?  I can appreciate that it's cool to learn it though.

Cheers

A lot of devs are into linux.  Gamers, not so. There are a good number of HTPC enthusiasts that use it as well.  In fact, there are many linux flavors that cater to htpc's.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 11, 2009 at 02:03 AM
AFAIK, very few games are optimized to run on 4 cores (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).  In terms of performance, high-end dual-core procs actually outperform quad-cores on quite a number of benchmarks.
most games right now can utilize all four cores.  :)
in some old benchmark softwares, yes dual core processors may lead this department. 
but the primary use of the system would be as an htpc/multimedia so a quad core will be utilize. 


my take on this discussion, although quad core is a little "overkill" id still recommend getting this if you have a little extra to spend.  this helps a lot especially if youre using a builtin vga.
for hd mkv playback
quad core + builtin vga = OK
dual core + 4670 = OK
quad core + 4670 = overkill on HD playback (why, 4670 will be carrying the load so your quad cores will run a 10% the most :D )
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Mar 11, 2009 at 02:17 AM
most games right now can utilize all four cores.  :)
in some old benchmark softwares, yes dual core processors may lead this department. 
but the primary use of the system would be as an htpc/multimedia so a quad core will be utilize. 


my take on this discussion, although quad core is a little "overkill" id still recommend getting this if you have a little extra to spend.  this helps a lot especially if youre using a builtin vga.
for hd mkv playback
quad core + builtin vga = OK
dual core + 4670 = OK
quad core + 4670 = overkill on HD playback (why, 4670 will be carrying the load so your quad cores will run a 10% the most :D )

Thank you for the correction.  Appreciate it very much.  :)

Would getting a triple core be a good idea then?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 11, 2009 at 03:47 AM
Thank you for the correction.  Appreciate it very much.  :)
Would getting a triple core be a good idea then?
although its supposed to, im kinda skeptical when it comes to triple cores.   ::)
its not the right math.   :D
basta ang alam ko may mali, they are stripped down quad cores to begin with ;D i cant really think of a way of explaining it. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 11, 2009 at 08:43 AM
most games right now can utilize all four cores.  :)
in some old benchmark softwares, yes dual core processors may lead this department. 

my take on this discussion, although quad core is a little "overkill" id still recommend getting this if you have a little extra to spend.  this helps a lot especially if youre using a builtin vga.
for hd mkv playback
quad core + builtin vga = OK
dual core + 4670 = OK
quad core + 4670 = overkill on HD playback (why, 4670 will be carrying the load so your quad cores will run a 10% the most :D )

AM agree - mostly?  (Anybody here "young" enough to have watched Spin A Win in Channel 9?).   I think sa italicized phrase, quad core + codec would be more than enough for MKV playback already with multitasking.  But if you know how to set-up the PC to take full advantage of DXVA compliance, then apparently discrete card would help reduce the CPU resource usage significantly -as Momay did.  I only added the 4670 for gaming.   For those planning to install a BD/HD-DVD drive, these discrete cards would help a lot also, especially when using the slide bar (ff and rew) very often.   7600GT ang minimum requirement ng PowerDVD for high def disk playback.

Saan nga ba galing yung 3 cores?   ;D  Anyhow, it's really amazing how "reasonably" priced AMD chips are compared to Intel's.  So I'm thinking, since the same 780G chipset supports more powerful CPUs than the AMD X2, why not maximize the CPU if the budget is around 25K.  You'd end up with enough/spare power to do most applications smoothly on a single machine - and cheaper than an equivalent Intel based PC - nice.

Meron pa bang MOBO na cheaper than 780G which supports the Phenom?  Another clarification, when you say 780G chipset MOBO, does that imply na the on-board graphics is the HD3200 class or there are many variants?


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sardaukar on Mar 11, 2009 at 08:56 AM

Installation of Ubuntu Linux is very similar to Windows no-brainer ... Interface after installation is very similar to Linux ... standard install would include OpenOffice (equivalent of MS Office and basically works the same as MS Office)

Hi raptor!

Would OpenOffice open all my old Word and Excel files?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Mar 11, 2009 at 09:12 AM
sa-sagot na ako para kay raptor. ;)

Yes, sa experience ko, pero Office 2003 iyun' binubuksan niya, iyun' mga mas luma kasi na files na excel at word ay na-konvert na nang Office 2001 o' 2003 namin.

Kaya lang kami nag Open Office kasi, wala pa kaming Office 2007 noon'.

Pero, OK talaga siya, kaya kahit mayroon na kaming Office 2007 ngayon, hindi namin tinangal iyun' open office. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 11, 2009 at 09:29 AM
I'm really interested to build an AMD Phenom based system running on Linux.  Nerveblocker seems to be having lots of fun on it.  I just cant touch any of my Intel machines right now and install Linux on top of Windows primarily because I've set the systems so stable, that Id rather not disturb the configuration until it becomes necessary (maybe sa next OS reinstall).  Also cant afford any PC down time and Im sure why wife would not allow me na ma-istorbo panonood nya.   :) 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: richmondes. on Mar 11, 2009 at 11:21 AM

AFAIK, very few games are optimized to run on 4 cores (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).  In terms of performance, high-end dual-core procs actually outperform quad-cores on quite a number of benchmarks.


not all games needs to run on 4 cores but that doesn't mean that it will run slower on 4 cores (well some might). it just that you wont need that much to play a game at hd resolution and at the highest possible graphical setting while maintaining a great performance. but for a gamer a quad is more recommended than 2 cores since recent games like gta 4, crysis warhead and empire total war and future release such as alan wake will need a quad core to run at optimum, so in quad you will get a better performance on most recent games and futureproofing.
and from my experience my quad core outscored my old dual core on different benchmarks (3dmarks, real game benchmarks, etc) and finally quad core is a lot more easier to overclock. (depends on mobo)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 11, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Hi raptor!

Would OpenOffice open all my old Word and Excel files?

yup, it will ... if you want to try it out, there's an OpenOffice for Windows available for download at www.openoffice.org (free also) ... i actually implemented it in my previous work (which is one of the biggest tech companies in Japan) ... if you know how to use Microsoft Office, the switch is similar to upgrading from Office 2003 to 2007 .... good thing about this is that it is legit

the function to save your file as pdf actually was made available first in OpenOffice ...this feature was only made available on the MS Office 2007 version
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 11, 2009 at 11:40 AM
I'm really interested to build an AMD Phenom based system running on Linux.  Nerveblocker seems to be having lots of fun on it.  I just cant touch any of my Intel machines right now and install Linux on top of Windows primarily because I've set the systems so stable, that Id rather not disturb the configuration until it becomes necessary (maybe sa next OS reinstall).  Also cant afford any PC down time and Im sure why wife would not allow me na ma-istorbo panonood nya.   :) 

Sir, as mentioned on my previous post, you can try out Ubuntu Linux ... either download it and burn to DVD or request for a DVD copy...you can boot-up from the DVD and run Linux without disturbing the configuration on your system ... this is a good way to try the look and feel and different functions ... actually parang Windows din

There's also another variant that is really intended for HTPC, but I haven't tested it yet ...just Google it - Linux Media Center ... based on my reading, it has the same functions as the MS version plus you cal also configure it to monitor and control home security cams and you can also use it as a switch for supported IP phones,
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sardaukar on Mar 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Thanks Alfie, thanks raptor! One of these days pag wala akong magawa I might try it out. Siguro pag summer hiatus na mga shows. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Mar 11, 2009 at 02:28 PM
gumagana ba ung fan speed indicator sa i-cute QS02 nyo? ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Mar 11, 2009 at 03:31 PM
Sir, as mentioned on my previous post, you can try out Ubuntu Linux ... either download it and burn to DVD or request for a DVD copy...you can boot-up from the DVD and run Linux without disturbing the configuration on your system ... this is a good way to try the look and feel and different functions ... actually parang Windows din

There's also another variant that is really intended for HTPC, but I haven't tested it yet ...just Google it - Linux Media Center ... based on my reading, it has the same functions as the MS version plus you cal also configure it to monitor and control home security cams and you can also use it as a switch for supported IP phones,

Try Mythbuntu (http://www.mythbuntu.org/), too.   I've seen many a Linux distro and I certainly believe that this is the best yet for an HTPC.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tediber on Mar 11, 2009 at 06:29 PM
yups gumagana naman yung speed indicator ng icute ko  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Mar 11, 2009 at 09:10 PM
yups gumagana naman yung speed indicator ng icute ko  ;D
sakin kasi nag bblink lang na 000 ....hmmm....anong mboard mo sir?  TIA!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Mar 12, 2009 at 01:16 PM
sa mga nababalak mag upgrade ng HTPC Case

check this out: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93781.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93781.0)

(http://www.silentpcreview.com/files/images/antec-fusionmax/fusionmax20.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Mar 12, 2009 at 02:02 PM
sa mga nababalak mag upgrade ng HTPC Case

check this out: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93781.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93781.0)

(http://www.silentpcreview.com/files/images/antec-fusionmax/fusionmax20.jpg)
di lumalabas pic sir.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: praktikal on Mar 12, 2009 at 07:42 PM
At last may htpc na ako yehey!!!  ;D

here's what i got:
AMD X2 5000
Emaxx 780g
Team Elite 2x1gb DDR2-800
Seagate 500gb SATA
Asus DVDR 22X SATA
Powerlogic S93T w/ 500w (mas pinili ko ito para mas may air circulation, di problema in case magupgrade tsaka more on desktop use naman at isa pa pagnanunood ka e di ka naman nakatingin sa casing  ;D )

thanks to EJ of Questlogic and of course kay ninjababez  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunblade977 on Mar 12, 2009 at 07:47 PM
At last may htpc na ako yehey!!!  ;D

here's what i got:
AMD X2 5000
Emaxx 780g
Team Elite 2x1gb DDR2-800
Seagate 500gb SATA
Asus DVDR 22X SATA
Powerlogic S93T w/ 500w (mas pinili ko ito para mas may air circulation, di problema in case magupgrade tsaka more on desktop use naman at isa pa pagnanunood ka e di ka naman nakatingin sa casing  ;D )

thanks to EJ of Questlogic and of course kay ninjababez  ;)

congrats on the purchase sir! sakto .. puyatan na ulit yan!
parehas tayo ng setup, except for the optical drive  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: praktikal on Mar 12, 2009 at 08:08 PM
congrats on the purchase sir! sakto .. puyatan na ulit yan!
parehas tayo ng setup, except for the optical drive  :)

hehe... kaso lang nagpapahanap pa ako kay EJ ng coax bracket kc walang kasama sa box. meantime, tyaga muna mga anakis ko sa 17" crt monitor hehe.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunblade977 on Mar 13, 2009 at 11:46 AM
hehe... kaso lang nagpapahanap pa ako kay EJ ng coax bracket kc walang kasama sa box. meantime, tyaga muna mga anakis ko sa 17" crt monitor hehe.

huh? bat ganun alang coax bracket, dapat kasama na yun sa package ng motherboard. Anyway, hahanapan ka naman nila EJ eh. unting tiis na lang  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: praktikal on Mar 13, 2009 at 12:04 PM
huh? bat ganun alang coax bracket, dapat kasama na yun sa package ng motherboard. Anyway, hahanapan ka naman nila EJ eh. unting tiis na lang  ;D

taka nga din si EJ, kaso last unit na daw and next week pa dating ng ibang batch pero inihahanap na nya ako... bait nga e.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: otepsy on Mar 13, 2009 at 06:13 PM
Here's my set up using Vista OS

Phenom X3 8450 = 4,500
Emaxx AMD 790GX ATI HD3300 VIDE = 6,000
Kingston 2GB DDR2 PC800 = 980
Seagate 500GB SATA HDD 32MB = 2,950
Logitech EX100 Combo Cordless = 1,350
LG 22X SATA Lightscribe = 1,280
iCute QS02 BB ATX Case = 1,900
DLink PCI Wireless LAN G510 = 1,200
PSU = Generic na lang muna = 500 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: pooch on Mar 13, 2009 at 06:24 PM
At last may htpc na ako yehey!!!  ;D

here's what i got:
AMD X2 5000
Emaxx 780g
Team Elite 2x1gb DDR2-800
Seagate 500gb SATA
Asus DVDR 22X SATA
Powerlogic S93T w/ 500w (mas pinili ko ito para mas may air circulation, di problema in case magupgrade tsaka more on desktop use naman at isa pa pagnanunood ka e di ka naman nakatingin sa casing  ;D )

thanks to EJ of Questlogic and of course kay ninjababez  ;)

ballpark, how much bro?  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: et414 on Mar 13, 2009 at 06:46 PM
can anyone recommend a locally available mobo with hdmi that can output 8channel pcm or better yet bitstream DD truhd and dts hd?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Mar 15, 2009 at 09:06 AM
iCute QS02-BB Slim Casing available:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93906.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93906.0)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 15, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Saan nga ba galing yung 3 cores?   ;D  Anyhow, it's really amazing how "reasonably" priced AMD chips are compared to Intel's.  So I'm thinking, since the same 780G chipset supports more powerful CPUs than the AMD X2, why not maximize the CPU if the budget is around 25K.  You'd end up with enough/spare power to do most applications smoothly on a single machine - and cheaper than an equivalent Intel based PC - nice.
Meron pa bang MOBO na cheaper than 780G which supports the Phenom?  Another clarification, when you say 780G chipset MOBO, does that imply na the on-board graphics is the HD3200 class or there are many variants?

triplecores are stripped down quadcores.  iirc amd has issues with their 1st few quadcores.
i agree with you bro on maxing out by using quadcores :).  iba narin talaga pag may extra raw power ang system.
most mobo with 780g chipset has hd3200 builtin (which is the selling point of 780g).  some mobos are just taking advantage of the chipset power of 780g.  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: praktikal on Mar 16, 2009 at 01:14 PM
ballpark, how much bro?  ;D

14k
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: epic_journey on Mar 16, 2009 at 04:29 PM
Powerlogic S93T w/ 500w (mas pinili ko ito para mas may air circulation, di problema in case magupgrade tsaka more on desktop use naman at isa pa pagnanunood ka e di ka naman nakatingin sa casing  ;D )

hehe.. haba ng explanation mo sa casing a.. defensive? picture naman dyan! :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 17, 2009 at 06:06 AM
taka nga din si EJ, kaso last unit na daw and next week pa dating ng ibang batch pero inihahanap na nya ako... bait nga e.  ;)
same thing happened to me when i got my 2nd 780g mobo.  :(
ej was able to get me a bracket after a week though  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Mar 17, 2009 at 08:11 AM
SOS please  :-\

I'm currently having problems with playback of some of my avi files.  I'm using the a 3gp Player or KMP (w/ defiler & FFDShow codecs)  running on a P4 2.6ghz 512ram.  I even tried cccp which i read in the other thread, doesn't work either. My avi files are sd, size of less than 1gb. 

Please direct me to a codec link that i can use  :)

TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 17, 2009 at 10:41 AM
SOS please  :-\
I'm currently having problems with playback of some of my avi files.  I'm using the a 3gp Player or KMP (w/ defiler & FFDShow codecs)  running on a P4 2.6ghz 512ram.  I even tried cccp which i read in the other thread, doesn't work either. My avi files are sd, size of less than 1gb. 
Please direct me to a codec link that i can use  :)
TIA
what do you mean when you said it doesnt work, and you have playback issues?
anyway, try cleanboot first.  there must be something running in the background thats causing this.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: praktikal on Mar 17, 2009 at 10:46 AM
same thing happened to me when i got my 2nd 780g mobo.  :(
ej was able to get me a bracket after a week though  :)

ihingi nya na lang daw ako sa distro.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Mar 17, 2009 at 11:04 AM
what do you mean when you said it doesnt work, and you have playback issues?
anyway, try cleanboot first.  there must be something running in the background thats causing this.  :)

thank you for replying bro.

certain avi files doesn't work in my home pc, but works perfectly in my office pc using the same classic kmplayer on both occasions.  I transferred them thru my flash drive.  does my home pc lacking the proper codec? I've noticed that the avi files (that doesn't work) are late 2008 films.  what codec can i try?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 17, 2009 at 11:21 AM
thank you for replying bro.
certain avi files doesn't work in my home pc, but works perfectly in my office pc using the same classic kmplayer on both occasions.  I transferred them thru my flash drive.  does my home pc lacking the proper codec? I've noticed that the avi files (that doesn't work) are late 2008 films.  what codec can i try?
whats the system specs of your home and office pc?  btw i got my uber kewl codecs from Clondalkin.  ask him if he doesnt mind me sharing it to you  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM
ihingi nya na lang daw ako sa distro.  ;)
:D  nice bro  :D 
btw i had the same case with my hi-end asus motherboard  years ago. 
missing 3 of 4 sata cables, no q-connector, heck even the floppy cable is missing.  :D :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: praktikal on Mar 17, 2009 at 11:38 AM
:D  nice bro  :D 
btw i had the same case with my hi-end asus motherboard  years ago. 
missing 3 of 4 sata cables, no q-connector, heck even the floppy cable is missing.  :D :D

so hindi pala isolated (emaxx) case 'to... buti nalang ok kausap si EJ. kung sa ibang shop yan e nadedma na ako... tnx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Mar 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM
whats the system specs of your home and office pc?  btw i got my uber kewl codecs from Clondalkin.  ask him if he doesnt mind me sharing it to you  ;)

my office pc is an intel dualcore 1.6ghz, 512 ram. will pm Clondalkin

thanks again
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 17, 2009 at 01:05 PM
my office pc is an intel dualcore 1.6ghz, 512 ram. will pm Clondalkin

No problem.  Just get in touch with Ninjababez.

I would suggest the following though:

1.  Uninstall everything related to your avi playback (KMP, codecs) then install them back one at a time starting with the media player.  Why are you not using Windows Media Player nga pala?

2.  Dont use packs.  Start with a simple combination of FFDshow - the latest one usually uploaded today or yesterday, which is easy to find, and AC3Filter for sound.  That's all.  If that solves your playback issues then that's it.

3.  Otherwise, please try the "Ninjababez Special Sauce".   :)  If that codec does not solve your problem, then I would suggest completely reinstalling the OS.   Something might be conflicting with your media player.  Member KarlPangan's problems were all solved by reinstalling the OS.

4.  If OS reinstall does not work, then your CPU might be underpowered.  You mentioned that only the "newer" files seem to have problems.  Their videostream bitrates might be too high for your CPU.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Mar 17, 2009 at 01:26 PM
thanks to clondalkin & ninjababez

pa share naman po ng special sauce please  :D

baka this is my final solution  :'(
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ 2.7GHz >> P3,050.00
Board: Emaxx AMD780G-PRO-128 >> P3,350.00
RAM: 2GB (1GB x2) Geil DDR2 800 >> P1,550.00
HDD:   500GB Seagate SATA >> P3,000.00
Optical: Lite-On DVDRW Black (Lightscribe) SATA >> P1,250.00
PSU:   Thermaltake 500W >> P2,000.00
Casing: iCute QS02 >>   P1,980.00

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 17, 2009 at 02:41 PM
baka this is my final solution  :'(

If you switch to high def mkvs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 18, 2009 at 06:51 AM
thanks to clondalkin & ninjababez
pa share naman po ng special sauce please  :D
baka this is my final solution  :'(
nah if youre playing SD avi then there  should be no reason to upgrade  :)
pm me your email address for the special sauce and missing seasoning  ;)

btw
1.  Uninstall everything related to your avi playback (KMP, codecs) then install them back one at a time starting with the media player.  Why are you not using Windows Media Player nga pala?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: stick on Mar 19, 2009 at 01:19 PM
pm me your email address for the special sauce and missing seasoning  ;)

medyo na curious lang ako... ano ba yung special sauce and missing seasoning... baka pwede akong maambunan nang konting sauce and seasoning!...  ;D

currently, with my set-up, I don't know if I'm getting the correct response or performance from the my system while playing mkv's.... maybe we could share data so we could know if the machine performs correctly....

for example in my case... I get

25~32% CPU usage when played with MPC-HC or KMP (CoreAVC/AC3Filter),
27~30% using XBMC and
15~25% using WMP11 (CoreAVC/AC3Filter).
all at window mode except XBMC @(1920x1080)..
playing an 8GB mkv file with 8Mbps overall bit rate 720p

My system is
AMD Athlon64 X2 5000+
ECS 780G Mobo
2GB Ram, 1GB Shared
using HDMI

But when using DXVA on MPC-HC I get <5% CPU usage...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 19, 2009 at 02:32 PM
The "special seasoning" simply makes most everything perfectly playable.  not really that dependent on CPU resource usage -

Ive seen a file that barely consumes any resource but had troublesome playback on a powerful PC.  surprisingly, the same file played perfectly well on a WDTV.   

Another member told me that a certain highly acclaimed Brazilian movie had troubles with the popular Egreat, but plays well with the PC. 

Ive seen 1080p files that didnt utilize so much resource but were constantly stuttery and out of sync throughout the playback.

So it's like a hit or miss.  Just find the right combination of hardware, software player and codec to minimize the miss.  If it's still a miss, either wait for codec update, or just download another encode.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Mar 19, 2009 at 03:01 PM
pm sent idol  :)

pm me your email address for the special sauce and missing seasoning  ;)


for reference of future htpc adapters (like me), what computer monitors are acceptable to play hidef contents 22" down?

like these monitors, are these acceptable?

Samsung 933NW 19" Wide (http://www.samsung.com/ph/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=computerperipherals&type=monitor&subtype=lcdmonitor&model_cd=LS19CMNKF/XM)

LG 22" W2252TQ-BK (http://www.rsun.com.ph/view_item.php?item=LCD070)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 19, 2009 at 04:53 PM
pm sent idol  :)


for reference of future htpc adapters (like me), what computer monitors are acceptable to play hidef contents 22" down?

like these monitors, are these acceptable?

Samsung 933NW 19" Wide (http://www.samsung.com/ph/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=computerperipherals&type=monitor&subtype=lcdmonitor&model_cd=LS19CMNKF/XM)t

LG 22" W2252TQ-BK (http://www.rsun.com.ph/view_item.php?item=LCD070)

i would suggest that you go 1-inch bigger > Samsung 2333HD ...it currently sells for 17k cash .... it has a built-in tv tuner ... it is a full-HD tv (1080p) ... plus they have a current promo - free dvd player with HDMI out
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Mar 19, 2009 at 05:14 PM
i would suggest that you go 1-inch bigger > Samsung 2333HD ...it currently sells for 17k cash .... it has a built-in tv tuner ... it is a full-HD tv (1080p) ... plus they have a current promo - free dvd player with HDMI out

thanks but 17k is way off my budget, i was contemplating on getting a Sammy 22A450 before on the premise of display upgrade only for my P4 setup.  Now, I'm planning to get a new amd based cpu (dual core at least) with either of the ff:

the 19 sammy costs 7k only
the 22 lg costs 9k only

can these accomodate hidef content?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 19, 2009 at 05:30 PM
the 19 sammy costs 7k only
the 22 lg costs 9k only

can these accomodate hidef content?

Yes, there's no reason they cant.  My wife's PC is connected to a dual monitor configuration; one is a 19" 4:3 Eizo LCD and another is a 32 inch LG LCD HDTV.   Both monitors are connected via digital out (DVI for the 19", DVI/HDMI for the 32").   She can watch all kinds of mkvs and HD DVDs on both monitors.  Maski sa VGA connection, lumalabas ng maayos ang image.

Just note that to playback original HD DVD or BD via DVI or HDMI, both the graphics card and the monitor must be HDCP compliant.  If not, then just connect via VGA.

Hindi malaking issue if an LCD can display a moving image or not.  Ang concern usually is the quality of picture.  Many budget LCD models have dull colors so just try to check on users' feedback  as regards the particular models you are interested in.

Kung 2K ang price difference, better go with the 22 inch LG.  Tipid nalang sa ibang bagay to recover the extra 2K.   Oks lang ang 22" for a PC set-up but bigger (HDTV) will certainly be better.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Mar 19, 2009 at 05:50 PM
thank you for the expert advice  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: stick on Mar 20, 2009 at 10:08 AM
@ Clondalkin,

Thanks for the enlightenment... currently almost all my video files play well with MPC and KMP... but on XBMC some files stutter... WMP is also good...

anyway I think I had the seasoning already...  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sx_abella on Mar 24, 2009 at 04:50 AM
What mobo will be best at ~php3000 to be paired with AMD™ Phenom™ X4 9650 2.3ghz and Palit HD4670? Was eyeing GA-MA78GM-US2H kaso I wouldnt need the 780g chipset since will be using the 4670 for graphics coz 50/50 games at mkv ang pag gamit so sayang and the gigabyte is at ~4k. Impt din pala sa akin ang may optical out since it will be connected to a receiver. tia :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 24, 2009 at 05:49 AM
What mobo will be best at ~php3000 to be paired with AMD™ Phenom™ X4 9650 2.3ghz and Palit HD4670? Was eyeing GA-MA78GM-US2H kaso I wouldnt need the 780g chipset since will be using the 4670 for graphics coz 50/50 games at mkv ang pag gamit so sayang and the gigabyte is at ~4k. Impt din pala sa akin ang may optical out since it will be connected to a receiver. tia :)
780g is not just an igp but a chipset, a good and advance one.  so i would still prefer getting this motherboard.  even if i plan to purchase a ati 4670 card.
more info about 780G here (http://vip.amd.com/us-en/0,,3715_15532_15533,00.html#780G)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Jncruz2000 on Mar 24, 2009 at 10:04 AM
here's my setup:

Processor: AMD Athlon X2 7750
Motherboard: Gigabyte MA78GM-S2H
Memory: 2 gig Team Elite DDR2 800

running on dual OS XP and Vista

sirs ask ko lang, how do you maximize the display? This is connected to my 50 inch Viera using HDMI but hindi nakamaximize ung display, i tried adjusting sa control panel, ganun parin.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 24, 2009 at 11:10 AM
here's my setup:

Processor: AMD Athlon X2 7750
Motherboard: Gigabyte MA78GM-S2H
Memory: 2 gig Team Elite DDR2 800

running on dual OS XP and Vista

sirs ask ko lang, how do you maximize the display? This is connected to my 50 inch Viera using HDMI but hindi nakamaximize ung display, i tried adjusting sa control panel, ganun parin.
on the hardware side you can try and turn on or off the overscan feature via the menu.
on the software side (make sure that overscan is turned off), use scaling and toggle overscan using ati cc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Jncruz2000 on Mar 24, 2009 at 03:30 PM
on the hardware side you can try and turn on or off the overscan feature via the menu.
on the software side (make sure that overscan is turned off), use scaling and toggle overscan using ati cc.

sir how do you do that? hehe, control panel?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sx_abella on Mar 24, 2009 at 03:34 PM
Thanks ninjababez! Mag laptop na sana ako kaso mukang mas sulit bumuo nung nasabihan ako ng kaibigan ko na pwede rin pala parang ps3 ung htpc for games. ty ty! :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 24, 2009 at 03:45 PM
Thanks ninjababez! Mag laptop na sana ako kaso mukang mas sulit bumuo nung nasabihan ako ng kaibigan ko na pwede rin pala parang ps3 ung htpc for games. ty ty! :)

Baliktad.   Parang PC na yung Xbox360 and PS3 for games.    ;D   PC gaming has always looked better than anything else - if you have the right graphics card and monitor.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 25, 2009 at 05:19 AM
PC gaming has always looked better than anything else - if you have the right graphics card and monitor.
i agree, cause if we were to compare the old nvidia 7 series on sli vs. xbox360 graphics.  talo ang xbox (iirc xbox's graphics is comparable to nvidia 6800 ultra on sli).   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: stick on Mar 25, 2009 at 09:53 AM
I have a question guys....

in MPC-HC we can change full screen resolution... my monitor is the samsung 22A450 with 1680x1050 HD ready... can accept 1920x1080 resolution....

here are some settings and results.... (results are seen on the display info feature)...
1.  MPC set to 1920x1080 32b 60Hz --> 1920x1080 @ 60Hz
2.  MPC set to 1920x1080 32b 30Hz --> 1920x1080i @ 60Hz
3.  MPC set to 1920x1080 32b 24Hz --> 1920x1080 @ 24Hz

Heres my question... which would be the best setting? in terms of video quality?
right now I use the 2nd setting because I see the 1080i .   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Mar 25, 2009 at 10:34 AM
The one with both 60Hz, less eye strain  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: stick on Mar 26, 2009 at 02:26 PM
The one with both 60Hz, less eye strain  ;)

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mykel18 on Apr 06, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Baka meron naman sa inyo pwede maginvite saken sa hd-bits or any hd torrent site. Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Apr 18, 2009 at 05:53 AM
this is my first weekend with my new rig  ;D

Athlon 64 X2 5400
Emaxx 780G pro
4GB Geil DDR2
640GB WD Caviar Green
LG DVD w/ LS
Tower Casing (space issues)
Samsung 2233SW
Altec Lansing ATP3


running on XP  :)   
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Apr 18, 2009 at 07:58 AM
Good Specs Dowals....Francis(Kiko) built ba ito'? (Kaya lang mukhang hindi, kasi die hard Intel si Kiko eh', AMD rin ang target ko muli, pero na-convince niya akong mag Intel)  ;D

Ako rin nag-balik sa tower, hindi lang dahil sa space, pati na rin sa heat generation lalo na kung  AMD.  :P

Pag nawala na nga ang warranty nang Acer X3200 ko...at nag bigay na nang kung ano-anong problema, ito'ng casing ang unang-una kong papalitan.  ::)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Apr 18, 2009 at 08:37 AM
Good Specs Dowals....Francis(Kiko) built ba ito'? (Kaya lang mukhang hindi, kasi die hard Intel si Kiko eh', AMD rin ang target ko muli, pero na-convince niya akong mag Intel)  ;D

Ako rin nag-balik sa tower, hindi lang dahil sa space, pati na rin sa heat generation lalo na kung  AMD.  :P

Pag nawala na nga ang warranty nang Acer X3200 ko...at nag bigay na nang kung ano-anong problema, ito'ng casing ang unang-una kong papalitan.  ::)

I originally planned to have it assembled by Kiko, but decided to get them at RSUN ~ medyo competitive naman price nila. I actually couldn't wait din ;D I'm currently trying to set up the special sauce from two generous members that I won't mention anymore  ;D All I need now is a sample mkv file  ;D puro avi files lang nandito

My older games, Call of Duty 1 & 2 plays flawlessly & with the best details I've seen so far.

Even the NFS Carbon, only thing I noticed with this game, the details are better using my old 9250 card comparing with this new igp under medium settings. or naduling lang ako?

I'm planning to upgrade to a 9500GT 1gb in the near future, want to play COD4 Modern Warfare, COD World at War & MOH Airborne among others.
     
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Apr 18, 2009 at 03:19 PM
Ako rin nag-balik sa tower, hindi lang dahil sa space, pati na rin sa heat generation lalo na kung  AMD.  :P

I've used this tower case DUKE DUOA (http://www.rsun.com.ph/view_item.php?item=CAS329), lot's of room inside, 2 built-in fans (front & rear) & perforated sides.

very good looking tower case in person  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Apr 20, 2009 at 03:13 PM

Athlon 64 X2 5400
Emaxx 780G pro
4GB Geil DDR2
640GB WD Caviar Green
LG DVD w/ LS
Tower Casing (space issues)
Samsung 2233SW
Altec Lansing ATP3


I'm currently having problems with this new setup, CPU automatically shuts down or restarts if I use the LG dvdrom (but not all the time).  Sometimes, soon as I hit the eject button of the dvdrom drive, PC shuts down or restarts.  Over the weekend, i've tried ripping 3 DVDs, pc worked fine, but later in the afternoon when i was transferring files from a DVDr, pc powered down.  What seems to be causing this?

Im using a 500W AVR, per the technician it's (the avr) working fine.

I havn't called the vendor though, anyone experience this problem? 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Apr 20, 2009 at 04:31 PM
I'm currently having problems with this new setup, CPU automatically shuts down or restarts if I use the LG dvdrom (but not all the time).  Sometimes, soon as I hit the eject button of the dvdrom drive, PC shuts down or restarts.  Over the weekend, i've tried ripping 3 DVDs, pc worked fine, but later in the afternoon when i was transferring files from a DVDr, pc powered down.  What seems to be causing this?


Could be a conflict between the OS and the burning software and/or the DVD-R driver.

One step at a time troubleshooting.

1.  Check Device Manager to verify that none of the hardware installed has an exclamation mark next to it.  If you see any exclamation mark, then install the appropriate driver for that particular device.

2.  If you pass step one, next step is to uninstall your burning software.  Tapos check for the latest driver of your DVD-R drive and install that.  Then reinstall a verified "good" copy of the burning application.

Good luck.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Apr 20, 2009 at 08:16 PM
per my experience if the PC shuts down it's a hardware problem, if it's a software, usual symptom is that it hungs.

and yes follow Clondalkin's advise on the device manager, and yes the easiest to manage is a driver problem(you just update).

It's a hardware problem for me, unless proven otherwise.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Apr 21, 2009 at 01:22 PM
i'll try clondalkin's # 2 first

i actually called the vendor, good thing about them is they have a very accomodating in-house tech, advised that i tranfer the drive's 4-pin to a new one, if symptoms persist, they'll replace the item with a new one

salamat sa inputs
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: darkpalosx on Apr 22, 2009 at 05:09 AM
just got a samsung t260hd lcd tv monitor,mamya makuha ko na yung new rig ko for htpc purposes.
ask ko lang since sa room na maliit ko lang gagamitin both,ok na ko sa built in speaker ng tv,although meron akong lumang atp3,so kung me hd movies ako na dts audio e pano ko maiioutput yun sa tv? plan to use hdmi.

pc specs:
amd 5200
gigabyte 780g-ud3h
seagate 500gb
extreem dark 4gb
lg dvdrw
generic casing w/psu
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: paolorenzo on Jun 14, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Up for this old thread.  I finally pulled the trigger and bought by HTPC parts today:

Mobo - Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-US2H (rev. 1.0) (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2995)
Proc - AMD X2 7750 dual Core 2.7 GHz (AM2+, 3Mb, 95w) (http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=506) P7,440 (Motherboard+CPU)
Memory - Team Xtreem Dark PC2 8500 DDR2 1066MHz CL6 (2*2GB) (http://www.teamgroup.com.tw/teamgroup/en/productDetail.php?pd_id=360&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=3) P2,862
HDD - Seagate Barracuda® 7200.12 500Gb (ST3500418AS) (http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=barracuda-7200-12-sata-3-0-gb/s-500gb-hd-st3500418as&vgnextoid=c501895c8ccce110VgnVCM100000f5ee0a0aRCRD&vgnextchannel=7227b5b72fbce110VgnVCM100000f5ee0a0aRCRD&reqPage=Model) P2,800
Optical Drive - LG Super Multi DVD Rewriter 22x GH22 (SATA) (http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/gh22.jhtml) P1,400
Casing - iCute QS02 (http://www.icute.com.tw/english/QS02.html) P2,200
PSU - Fortron Source (FSP) Blue Storm II 500w (http://www.fspgroup.co.uk/u.k/02_newproducts/bluestorm2.htm) P2,850
HSF - Deep Cool Beta 400 Plus (http://www.deepcool.com.cn/English/file/a_beta400plus.html) P980
Case Fans: Coolermaster R4-L2R-20AC-GP (http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=2915) P583 and Arctic Cooling 12PWM (http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3_48_68&mID=113&language=en) P319
MODZ - Black Annodized Aluminum screws (4pcs) P100

Total is P21,534.  Blue is cash / Red is card.

Hanap pa ako nang magandang wireless keyboard-mouse, and possibly a remote.

Sigurado problemado nanaman ako mamaya sa installation at cable management.   :(

Excited na ako.  Sana matulungan ako ng mga HTPC masters natin.  Marami akong akong tanong, di pa nabubuo.   :-[
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Jun 14, 2009 at 09:33 AM
@paolorenzo: congratz on your new HTPC. we have similar setup. but i changed my casing from iCute QS02 to Coolermaster Centurion Mini-Tower.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 14, 2009 at 06:33 PM
nice setup pao  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Jun 14, 2009 at 08:19 PM
Here's mine:
MSI K9A2VM-F motherboard (780 chipset)
AMD Phenom X3 8650, 2.3Ghz
4GB RAM (2 x Kingston 2GB DDR2 800)
Integra casing
HIS HD4670 512MB PCIE (with built-in HDMI audio chip)
Seagate 160GB SATA
Lite-On DVD burner
Task 300W PSU
Panasonic 50PV80, 50in plasma TV
Linksys NAS200, with 1TB Seagate

The red items I bought from PCX just last Wed (Jun 11). The other stuff came from my other PC, and other excess articles. I've spent 12T this week.

I spent the whole day & night assembling, installing Windows and testing. I initially used Windows 7 RC, and because XMBC didn't work well with this OS, I reinstalled WinXP the next day.

I use Windows XP and XMBC as my media player. The movie files are in the NAS unit, played directly from that drive.

The other items I plan the buy soon are the wireless keyboard from CDR King and a BDROM drive (when it becomes available). One more thing, AVR and speakers, which will cost me 30T at least.

I was observing that the casing was really HOT, so I bought an Akasa fan with fan speed contol feature from RSun computers. That fan dropped the temp by 10C. I'm considering a HD cooler, but the casing doesn't have any provision for a 3rd party cooler, so I have to figure this out later.

I've played several 720 & 1080 files, so far, so good. Except for The Last Starfighter (17GB) which I noticed slight delays. Playing this same file on my 1.8Ghz/2MB/Intel C2D Aspire PC, it can barely play at all.

Still hoping there's still a way to allow 2 audio chips to function simultaneously, so I can drop the AVR plan and go for those powered Logiitech speakers, around 16T.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 15, 2009 at 07:51 AM
straker, can you post an image of your case?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Jun 15, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Case Fans: Coolermaster R4-L2R-20AC-GP (http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=2915) P583 and Arctic Cooling 12PWM (http://www.arctic-cooling.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3_48_68&mID=113&language=en) P319

@pao, where did you get your case fans? i'm interested with the CM 120mm fan 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: paolorenzo on Jun 15, 2009 at 08:11 PM
@pao, where did you get your case fans? i'm interested with the CM 120mm fan 


Sa PC_Reform halos lahat (QQ02 from Kiko, LG DVDRW from PC Corner Megamall).  Check them out at TipidPC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Jun 15, 2009 at 08:58 PM
Sa PC_Reform halos lahat (QQ02 from Kiko, LG DVDRW from PC Corner Megamall).  Check them out at TipidPC.

thanks, pc_reform from makati? sa kanila ko nakuha HD4770 ko
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Jun 16, 2009 at 01:02 PM
straker, can you post an image of your case?

Still having problems uploading pictures. Will keep to trying until I got it right.

The casing is just a plain-vanilla (cheap) tower case, capable of holding 2 optical drives, and 2x3.5 drives, one of which is a floppy drive. I used that floppy drive's place to mount my SATA drive.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: espi on Jun 26, 2009 at 07:20 PM
where can i find a 3.5mm converter for an optical out just like what's posted on the first thread?  ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Jul 09, 2009 at 08:58 PM
This is my PC. Not exactly impressive, only the TV and my PC's innards make up for it!

This is the HTPC unit.
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae352/francism65/DSC00300.jpg)

Here's the whole bunch. My 50in Panny and my Samsung HTiB, which I plan to dispose soon.
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae352/francism65/DSC00301.jpg)

The TV is connected via HDMI, and I plugged one of the PC's audio to the HTiB's aux jack. Depending on my choice, I could use either the TV's speakers or the HTiB's. Its a pity I can't find a way to get them to make noise together.

Thanks NinjaBabez on how to post the pictures!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Jul 13, 2009 at 02:37 PM
ASRock ION 330-BD now available. with Blu-ray drive.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: zidane21 on Jul 27, 2009 at 06:11 PM
My humble rig po:

AMD Athlon x2 6000+ (Windsor Core)
Asrock NF6G-Vsta
1Gb Palit Radeon HD4870 Sonic
4x1Gb Transcend Axeram ddr2-800
Creative Soundblaster Audigy2 ZS Soundcard
HEC Winpower 550AB Psu
Samsung 18X Dvd-Writer Lightscribe
160Gb Seagate Barracuda Sata
320Gb Seagate Barracuda Sata
Acer P223W 22" (via DVI)
Panasonic Viera TH-L32X10 32" (via HDMI)
Pioneer XV-DV505 Htib A/V Receiver

Software players:
PowerDVD 9 Ultra
GOM Media Player
Media Player Classic

basically gaming rig ko po sya at the same time ginawa ko na rin pong htpc. I decided po na mag HTPC na lang po ako due to budget constraints (and mas nagandahan po ako sa PQ output ng pc ko compared sa dvd player upscaler ko kasi hehe) than upgrading my current existing hardware (Buying a Sony Ps3, newer Dvd player upscaler, etc.).

plan ko pong upgrade in the near future:
LG GGC-H20N Blu-Ray/HD-Dvd rom (for Blu-Ray and HD-Dvd playback)
1Tb Western Digital Mybook (storage medium)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Jul 27, 2009 at 09:23 PM
My humble rig po:

AMD Athlon x2 6000+ (Windsor Core)
Asrock NF6G-Vsta
1Gb Palit Radeon HD4870 Sonic
4x1Gb Transcend Axeram ddr2-800
HEC Winpower 550AB Psu
Samsung 18X Dvd-Writer Lightscribe
80Gb Seagate Barracuda Sata
160Gb Seagate Barracuda Sata
Acer P223W 22" (via DVI)
Panasonic Viera TH-L32X10 32" (via HDMI)
Pioneer XV-DV505 Htib A/V Receiver

Software players:
PowerDVD 9 Ultra
GOM Media Player
Media Player Classic

basically gaming rig ko po sya at the same time ginawa ko na rin pong htpc. I decided po na mag HTPC na lang po ako due to budget constraints (and mas nagandahan po ako sa PQ output ng pc ko compared sa dvd player upscaler ko kasi hehe) than upgrading my current existing hardware (Buying a Sony Ps3, newer Dvd player upscaler, etc.).

plan ko pong upgrade in the near future:
LG GGC-H20N Blu-Ray/HD-Dvd rom (for Blu-Ray and HD-Dvd playback)
1Tb Western Digital Mybook (storage medium)

Hi, nice setup you got there. Kumusta ang video quality sa Panasonic X10 mo? Any problems setting it up with your HTPC? Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: zidane21 on Jul 27, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Hi, nice setup you got there. Kumusta ang video quality sa Panasonic X10 mo? Any problems setting it up with your HTPC? Thanks.

thank you po sir. regarding po sa pq ng panny x3210, so far po very satisfied naman po ako for its price range (naka-set po to cinema-warm para "natural" ang color tone ng image). wala naman po akong naging problem regarding po sa pag setup ng panny x3210, literally plug and play lang po sya via hdmi

ginawa ko pong dual monitor setup po; yung panny x3210 for the movie output and acer p223w for the "workplace".

btw, ano po kaya magiging suggestion po nyo mga sirs, should I go for 720p/1080p mkv harddrive route or the blu-ray/hd-dvd disc route? hindi po kasi kaya ng budget pag both. thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Jul 28, 2009 at 12:26 AM
thank you po sir. regarding po sa pq ng panny x3210, so far po very satisfied naman po ako for its price range (naka-set po to cinema-warm para "natural" ang color tone ng image). wala naman po akong naging problem regarding po sa pag setup ng panny x3210, literally plug and play lang po sya via hdmi

ginawa ko pong dual monitor setup po; yung panny x3210 for the movie output and acer p223w for the "workplace".

btw, ano po kaya magiging suggestion po nyo mga sirs, should I go for 720p/1080p mkv harddrive route or the blu-ray/hd-dvd disc route? hindi po kasi kaya ng budget pag both. thanks

I would go for the 720p/1080 mkv harddrive route for budget reasons. If you get the blu-ray/hd-dvd drive you have to factor in the cost of the Blu-ray and HD-DVD discs.

Anong resolution ang ginamit for your Acer and Panasonic? Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: zidane21 on Jul 28, 2009 at 01:31 AM
I would go for the 720p/1080 mkv harddrive route for budget reasons. If you get the blu-ray/hd-dvd drive you have to factor in the cost of the Blu-ray and HD-DVD discs.

Anong resolution ang ginamit for your Acer and Panasonic? Thanks.
sa acer po i use 1680x1050 and sa panny i use 1920x1080.

hindi naman po ganun kalaki ang difference ng pq and aq ng mkv vs. blu-ray/hd-dvd? thanks po ulit  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Jul 28, 2009 at 01:52 AM
sa acer po i use 1680x1050 and sa panny i use 1920x1080.

hindi naman po ganun kalaki ang difference ng pq and aq ng mkv vs. blu-ray/hd-dvd? thanks po ulit  :)

I thought the panny 32x10 was just HD ready (1366x768) and not full HD.

The difference in quality would depend on how the mkv was encoded and the resolution 720p or 1080p. The advantage will still be on the blu-ray especially on the audio (DTS-HD master) but you will need to buy more equipment to fully appreciate this. I guess for the meantime you could try out a few 720p or 1080p mkv on your htpc to see if you are satisfied with the video and audio quality already.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: zidane21 on Jul 28, 2009 at 06:33 AM
I thought the panny 32x10 was just HD ready (1366x768) and not full HD.

The difference in quality would depend on how the mkv was encoded and the resolution 720p or 1080p. The advantage will still be on the blu-ray especially on the audio (DTS-HD master) but you will need to buy more equipment to fully appreciate this. I guess for the meantime you could try out a few 720p or 1080p mkv on your htpc to see if you are satisfied with the video and audio quality already.

mag o-audition ako ng few 1080p mkv files to test po kung pwede na sa "taste" ko hehe

i'm also surprised na kaya ng panny mag out ng full-hd reso given na hd-ready lang sya "accdg. to paper", i just use the highest possible reso on the vidcard settings and 1920x1080 ang highest possible output for the panny, sa acer talagang hanggang 1680x1050 lang.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Jul 28, 2009 at 08:56 AM
mag o-audition ako ng few 1080p mkv files to test po kung pwede na sa "taste" ko hehe

i'm also surprised na kaya ng panny mag out ng full-hd reso given na hd-ready lang sya "accdg. to paper", i just use the highest possible reso on the vidcard settings and 1920x1080 ang highest possible output for the panny, sa acer talagang hanggang 1680x1050 lang.

I think the panny 32x10 is 1080p capable it can accept a 1080p signal from a PC, PS3 or other device and downsample it to it's native resolution of 1366x768.

For sound output what connections do you use? Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: zidane21 on Jul 28, 2009 at 10:47 AM
I think the panny 32x10 is 1080p capable it can accept a 1080p signal from a PC, PS3 or other device and downsample it to it's native resolution of 1366x768.

For sound output what connections do you use? Thanks.
sa sound output po analog pa lang po from the motherboard directly to the htib.

mejo short pa po sa budget kasi in upgrading the audio setup hehe.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 28, 2009 at 12:48 PM
sa sound output po analog pa lang po from the motherboard directly to the htib.

mejo short pa po sa budget kasi in upgrading the audio setup hehe.
in time bro  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: zidane21 on Jul 28, 2009 at 01:45 PM
in time bro  ;)
thank you po for the encouragement hehe, mejo may slight case nako ng sars haha mahirap nato!  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Jul 28, 2009 at 06:35 PM
sa sound output po analog pa lang po from the motherboard directly to the htib.

mejo short pa po sa budget kasi in upgrading the audio setup hehe.

Does it mean naka stereo output ka lang or meron analog 5.1 input yun htib mo? Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: straker on Jul 28, 2009 at 08:22 PM
Anybody with a BDROM equipped HTPC? I would like to know if
1. It has a bundled media player?
2. Is the upscaler within the drive's electronics or media player dependent?
3. Does it draw more power than a typical DVD?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Jul 28, 2009 at 10:16 PM
@straker:

1. None. But some other models come with PowerDVD.
2. Software based. The BDROM will just read the data and the software will be the one to process it.
3. No, same power.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 29, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Anybody with a BDROM equipped HTPC? I would like to know if
1. It has a bundled media player?
2. Is the upscaler within the drive's electronics or media player dependent?
3. Does it draw more power than a typical DVD?
dm1179 is right about the powerdvd, lemme just add that the free version powerdvd only outputs stereo, only the paid version outputs multi channel.   :-\
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Jul 30, 2009 at 09:14 AM
are bdroms available locally already?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: zidane21 on Jul 30, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Does it mean naka stereo output ka lang or meron analog 5.1 input yun htib mo? Thanks.
analog 5.1 po, kaya dolby digital 5.1 pa rin po yung output kahit papano hehe :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: zidane21 on Jul 30, 2009 at 10:18 AM
are bdroms available locally already?
unfortunately sir, none po as of the moment.

pero si sir Woody of TipidPc is selling hd-dvd/bd-rom and hd-dvd/bd-writer straight from Japan. 8)

LG GGC-H20N Blu-ray/HD-DVD ROM; DVD/CD writer
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1491930 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1491930)

LG GGW-H20 Blu-ray/DVD/CD writer & HD-DVD ROM
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1729120 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1729120)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Jul 30, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Bro, nakabili ka na sa kanya?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Bro, nakabili ka na sa kanya?
ako bro dati ko na nakadeal yan.
kilalang seller yan ng hard to find items  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 30, 2009 at 10:46 AM
dun sa naghahanap ng bdrom you can call questlogic tech.  iirc per order basis yung bdrom nila  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: zidane21 on Jul 30, 2009 at 10:51 AM
Bro, nakabili ka na sa kanya?
suki po ako kay sir Woody esp. pag talagang only in Japan yung mga pinapabili ko. very good and reputable seller po si sir Woody.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: hyperpath27 on Jul 30, 2009 at 04:56 PM
Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
« Reply #488 on: Jul 27, 2009 at 06:11 PM »
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My humble rig po:

AMD Athlon x2 6000+ (Windsor Core)
Asrock NF6G-Vsta
1Gb Palit Radeon HD4870 Sonic
4x1Gb Transcend Axeram ddr2-800
HEC Winpower 550AB Psu
Samsung 18X Dvd-Writer Lightscribe
80Gb Seagate Barracuda Sata
160Gb Seagate Barracuda Sata
Acer P223W 22" (via DVI)
Panasonic Viera TH-L32X10 32" (via HDMI)
Pioneer XV-DV505 Htib A/V Receiver

Sir ask lang kung ano gamit mo sa pana mo gamit yung v card ???VGA or HDMI??

wala ka ba naging problem sa resolution ???

and paano set-up nyo sa sound pc to Htib??
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: zidane21 on Jul 30, 2009 at 06:05 PM
Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
« Reply #488 on: Jul 27, 2009 at 06:11 PM »
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My humble rig po:

AMD Athlon x2 6000+ (Windsor Core)
Asrock NF6G-Vsta
1Gb Palit Radeon HD4870 Sonic
4x1Gb Transcend Axeram ddr2-800
HEC Winpower 550AB Psu
Samsung 18X Dvd-Writer Lightscribe
80Gb Seagate Barracuda Sata
160Gb Seagate Barracuda Sata
Acer P223W 22" (via DVI)
Panasonic Viera TH-L32X10 32" (via HDMI)
Pioneer XV-DV505 Htib A/V Receiver

Sir ask lang kung ano gamit mo sa pana mo gamit yung v card ???VGA or HDMI??

wala ka ba naging problem sa resolution ???

and paano set-up nyo sa sound pc to Htib??

hdmi ang gamit ko po sa panny 32x10 (1920x1080 reso), dvi naman on the acer p223w(1680x1050 reso), on the resolution wala naman po, 1gb radeon hd4870 kasi gamit ko.

regarding po sound, from the onboard mobo lang po straight to the htib, kaya analog 5.1 lang po output ko, wala pa pong budget pang audio upgrade kasi hehe (asus xonar hdav1.3 slim version 8)!!)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Jul 30, 2009 at 07:49 PM
analog 5.1 po, kaya dolby digital 5.1 pa rin po yung output kahit papano hehe :)

What brand and model is your HTIB? Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: zidane21 on Jul 30, 2009 at 11:58 PM
What brand and model is your HTIB? Thanks.
paki read na lang po sir yung specs ng pinost ko nandudun po lahat ng info  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: hyperpath27 on Jul 31, 2009 at 01:00 PM
nalog 5.1 po, kaya dolby digital 5.1 pa rin po yung output kahit papano hehe

hope you dont mind pwede makita pic ng connection sa likod ng pc, lcd, at htib pati narin output ng lcd mo.

meron kase ako panny 32" LE8 and nag kakaproblem ako sa reso using hdmi. pero vga ok naman. at sa htib hindi siya 5.1 output 2.1 lang ang lumalabas. syangapla ano cable gamit mo sa audio htib to pc???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: zidane21 on Jul 31, 2009 at 02:39 PM
nalog 5.1 po, kaya dolby digital 5.1 pa rin po yung output kahit papano hehe

hope you dont mind pwede makita pic ng connection sa likod ng pc, lcd, at htib pati narin output ng lcd mo.

meron kase ako panny 32" LE8 and nag kakaproblem ako sa reso using hdmi. pero vga ok naman. at sa htib hindi siya 5.1 output 2.1 lang ang lumalabas. syangapla ano cable gamit mo sa audio htib to pc???
yup tama po kayo yung output lang na capable yung soundblaster audigy2-zs soundcard via analog is only 2.1 (dapat sa digital toslink para dolby digital-ex 5.1/dts-es 5.1), then out lang ng pio avr is dolby prologic2 (kakakita ko lang earlier this morning. :) )

my desktop
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3562/3779731712_a9d90d4243.jpg)

my panny l32x10 and pio xv-dv505 avr
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2526/3778923573_dfe8171e71.jpg)

using panny l32x10 via hdmi-1080p
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2536/3779732618_9a0da43f27.jpg)

the output reso of both my lcd's (1680x1050 on the 22" acer p223w and 1920x1080 on the 32" panny l32x10)
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t240/richardpaulino/pic02.jpg)

my acer p223w via dvi, panny l32x10 via hdmi, and my sound via soundblaster audigy2 zs analog-out
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3521/3778919653_0e2612899e.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: TinkerTailor on Aug 04, 2009 at 09:47 PM
guys baka may nakakaalam dito kung saan pwede makabili locally ng auzentech prelude na sound card?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: hyperpath27 on Aug 05, 2009 at 11:52 AM
sir saan nakakabit ung audio cable nyo sa htib nyo na pioneer like aux or etc...????

many thank in advance gusto ko kase ng ganyang setup hope you dont mind pwede ba kayo tawagan para magpatulong??? ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tein on Aug 08, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Here's my gaming and movie rig before, now fulltime HTPC na since sawa na mag laro. here are the specs

Intel Q6600 G0 stepping @ 3.6ghz now 3.2ghz for movies nalang
Asus Rampage Motherboard
PowerColor HD 4870x2
Creative Soundblaster X-Fi fatality series
Thermalright Ultra 120 xtreme cpu cooler
Antec SpotCool on rams
Team xtreem 2x1gb 1200mhz ( benchmarking rams )
Team xtreem 2x2gb 1066mhz ( daily rams )
Silverstone TJ09 black
Silverstone OP1000 psu
Silverstone MFP51 ( usefull sa htpc with remote )
Silverstone FM121 x2
Silverstone FM122 x3
Silverstone FM123 x1
Logitech G15 keyboard
Logitech G7 mouse ( carbon )
Logitech G25 steering wheel for ps3 and driving sim games
Logitech z5500 ( may topak na will be replaced by HK/ infinity primus combination )
Seagate 320gb,500gb,1.5tb
Hanns-G 28" full hd ( main monitor, for games,surfing )
Sony Bravia 40v400a full hd ( secondary monitor for movies )

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: unit14 on Aug 09, 2009 at 11:44 AM
sirs i have a problem, my pc/HTPC audio is connected via optical to my HTIB (LG HT904TA) however, stereo lang ang lumalabas.

how to fix this problem?how do i transmit dolby digital/dts to my HTIB?

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Aug 09, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Sirs,

anyone here tried OVERCLOCKING their Intel Processors..?

Is it safe...

ABC
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 09, 2009 at 03:17 PM
Sirs,

anyone here tried OVERCLOCKING their Intel Processors..?

Is it safe...

ABC

yes it is .. it seems like they rate it low, to have high OCability  ;D
with the right ram and board, you can't go wrong  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Aug 09, 2009 at 06:05 PM
would there be substantial improvement for an OCed Athlon X2 5400 on an emaxx 780g pro+ with stock hsf?
or i'll just be risking more than normal wear & tear?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: unit14 on Aug 09, 2009 at 09:11 PM
sirs may tanong po ako, when i connect the HTPC to my HTIB via optical , bakit po stereo lang lumalabas?ano po ba dapat gawin ko na settings?

also, how do i know if or change to  DTS/Dolby Digital surround?

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Aug 09, 2009 at 09:35 PM
would there be substantial improvement for an OCed Athlon X2 5400 on an emaxx 780g pro+ with stock hsf?
or i'll just be risking more than normal wear & tear?
for HTPC use, you don't need OC. i am using Athlon X2 5200, Emaxx 780G-PRO, and 4GB RAM. all at stocks speed.

it's a different case if you are a gamer and would use a dedicated video card to play the latest games. OC can give you some benefits. take note that it will also consume more power so you need a good PSU.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 11, 2009 at 09:47 AM
sirs may tanong po ako, when i connect the HTPC to my HTIB via optical , bakit po stereo lang lumalabas?ano po ba dapat gawin ko na settings?

also, how do i know if or change to  DTS/Dolby Digital surround?


Have you properly configured your Sound Settings sa PC (Control Panel) to output Digital Raw or DTS or whatever through the optical out?

Another way is if AC3Filter or any audio codec/filter is installed in your PC, you should set the optical output correctly (DTS, etc.) within that particular application.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: unit14 on Aug 12, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Have you properly configured your Sound Settings sa PC (Control Panel) to output Digital Raw or DTS or whatever through the optical out?

Another way is if AC3Filter or any audio codec/filter is installed in your PC, you should set the optical output correctly (DTS, etc.) within that particular application.




sir how exactly do i do this?sorry medyo noobie pa sa ganito.thanks a lot for replying.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 13, 2009 at 07:03 AM
sir how exactly do i do this?sorry medyo noobie pa sa ganito.thanks a lot for replying.
Have you properly configured your Sound Settings sa PC (Control Panel) to output Digital Raw or DTS or whatever through the optical out?

Another way is if AC3Filter or any audio codec/filter is installed in your PC, you should set the optical output correctly (DTS, etc.) within that particular application.

right click on your sound icon on the task bar.  choose adjust volume properties, under audio choose the default device.  you can choose between hdmi, HD audio etc.  most of the time hd realtek(depending on the builtin soundcard), is what you choose for spdif output (coax or fiber optic).

ac3 filter however is installed either by your media player (i use kmplayer and media), or separately.
anyway, just choose the option for passthrough spdif (AS IS).  that should output dts or DD, given that your source has dd or dts.   

HTH :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ABCmotorparts on Aug 13, 2009 at 09:50 AM
yes it is .. it seems like they rate it low, to have high OCability  ;D
with the right ram and board, you can't go wrong  ;)

Thanks sirs...!

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: unit14 on Aug 13, 2009 at 07:18 PM
right click on your sound icon on the task bar.  choose adjust volume properties, under audio choose the default device.  you can choose between hdmi, HD audio etc.  most of the time hd realtek(depending on the builtin soundcard), is what you choose for spdif output (coax or fiber optic).

ac3 filter however is installed either by your media player (i use kmplayer and media), or separately.
anyway, just choose the option for passthrough spdif (AS IS).  that should output dts or DD, given that your source has dd or dts.   

HTH :D
sir ninjababes,

there are only 3 options under volume properties (when choosing default device) Realtek HD audio output, bluetooth audio and bluetooth high quality audio. it is set already to Realtek HD audio..but no optical/spdif.

my motherboard is EMAXX p-35 pro po pala..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 13, 2009 at 11:25 PM
sir ninjababes,

there are only 3 options under volume properties (when choosing default device) Realtek HD audio output, bluetooth audio and bluetooth high quality audio. it is set already to Realtek HD audio..but no optical/spdif.

my motherboard is EMAXX p-35 pro po pala..
according to this link http://www.emaxxtech.com/files/EMXP35PRO/manual/EMX-P35-PRO_manual.pdf ,  you have spdif out (via optical).  use realtek HD output, you'll be needing an optical cable :D
then via ac3 choose passthrough spdif, this should output dd or dts if it's available  
hth  ;)
*check the drawing on page 10*
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: unit14 on Aug 15, 2009 at 08:37 PM
according to this link http://www.emaxxtech.com/files/EMXP35PRO/manual/EMX-P35-PRO_manual.pdf ,  you have spdif out (via optical).  use realtek HD output, you'll be needing an optical cable :D
then via ac3 choose passthrough spdif, this should output dd or dts if it's available  
hth  ;)
*check the drawing on page 10*

hi sir!its ok na po for playing dvds..thanks very much!

however, sa games po medyo kakaiba, stereo lang hehe.pag ginagamit ko naman ung dolby pro logic II sa htib, dun lang nagkakasound sa lahat ng speakers, however, medyo weird kasi some sounds seem weak where it shouldnt be (example, when i fire a gun sa crysis warhead, napaka-hina ng gun sound, barely audible. pero pag may nagsasalita, ok naman..)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 16, 2009 at 02:26 PM
hi sir!its ok na po for playing dvds..thanks very much!

however, sa games po medyo kakaiba, stereo lang hehe.pag ginagamit ko naman ung dolby pro logic II sa htib, dun lang nagkakasound sa lahat ng speakers, however, medyo weird kasi some sounds seem weak where it shouldnt be (example, when i fire a gun sa crysis warhead, napaka-hina ng gun sound, barely audible. pero pag may nagsasalita, ok naman..)
yeah it's a hit and miss for pl2.  i forgot the title but there's this action movie which sounded better in pl2 than dd.  ^_^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tein on Aug 29, 2009 at 01:55 AM
guys anyone here using x-fi fatality series soundcard then optical out thru HK255? kasi sakin d ko maayos yun rear left and rear right , lage tumutunog sila sa front left and front right. kinalikot ko na and turned everything of sa creative console pero yun speaker assignment d ko mapagana mabuti.. btw im using asus rampage x48 mobo, should i just use the onboard optical out then to the avr?

Or should i use this cable instead ? http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=0&subcategory=&product=14309 (http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=0&subcategory=&product=14309)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tebenets on Sep 02, 2009 at 08:18 PM
sirs,

I'm planning to build a HTPC with the following specs (subject to change due to price):

1. Processor: I'm choosing between Pentium Dual core E5200 (2MB cache 800 FSB) or Pentium Core 2 Duo E4500 (2MB cache 800 FSB). Note that C2D is currently my pc. I'm willing to downgrade my bedroom pc since i don't play much games (hanggang NBA Live 2004 na lang ako)  ;D

2. Motherboard: I'm thinking of getting the intel DG45ID mobo or I could use my present mobo, Intel DP35DP, and get a cheaper board for my bedroom pc.

3. Video card: If I choose the intel DG45ID, can i eliminate the video card? since this board has already HDMI out. otherwise, I'll get the nVidia 9400GT (1GB ddr2 128 bit HDMI out)  ???

4. Sound card: with those mobo, i would just buy a digital cable. since both boards has built in HD audio

5. RAM: 2GB or 4GB

6. HD: for the htpc, i plan to install 2 hd, 1 160Gb or 250GB and 1 1TB (most probably external drive). the smaller drive for the OS and other programs.

7 Optical Drive: definitely Blu ray but will be bought when prices goes down further and has better availability. I can use my spare dvd rom

8. KB and Mouse: definitely will go wireless

9. monitor: none


I am willing to listen to your suggestion if there should be changes.

as for the software, i'm going to install:
1. Windows Vista
2. Firefox
3. instant messaging software
4. anti virus
5. only simple games
6. no torrent clients. (i will use the pc in my bedroom for that)
7. VLC media player
8. Open Office

you can also help me if i'm missing a software or 2 for my HTPC to work.

thanks and more power
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: moejun on Sep 02, 2009 at 08:26 PM
get a gigabyte, msi or asus mobo
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tebenets on Sep 02, 2009 at 09:45 PM
get a gigabyte, msi or asus mobo

what wrong with intel brand?


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 02, 2009 at 10:30 PM
what wrong with intel brand?
most of the time they scrimp their motherboards.  :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Sep 03, 2009 at 06:52 AM
The trend nowadays is to look for MoBo with Solid capacitors, ones that will ensure longevity of service, most especially most PC usage entails 24/7 use.

It's such a depressing experience once the MoBo gives in and even more painful, if it's only one capacitor. Chances are except if there's a clone of your MoBo, another reformat is needed.

So far, Asus & Gigabyte has available MoBo with solid caps here in metro Manila.

MSI has the weakest caps, I had 2 die in service, heard form my friend, that one internet shop with MSI, all crashed within a year.

Intel boards, are problematic since the beginning, they have a tendency to heat up and are more costly, no wonder, most shops don't carry them, but you can always get them on a per order basis, besides, I have yet to hear an Intel board with solid caps, maybe, they'll join in one of these days.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: moejun on Sep 03, 2009 at 07:36 AM
hehe, yup, i  guess i shouldn't have included MSI. i've had only bad experiences with Intel boards. for the past year and a half i've been using a gigabyte DS3L, with solid capacitors, 24/7, and i haven't had a single problem with it.

oh, and before i forget, invest in a good psu if you plan to leave your pc on 24/7. it pays to be careful.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 03, 2009 at 08:00 AM
"24/7" is figurative right?  Some of you guys are actually able to operate your home PCs non-stop for weeks or months or years?

My usage habit is more like 24/3 (especially on weekends) or closer to 12/7 on the average. Vista would normally update every Thursday wee hours hence when I wake up on Thursday morning, the PC has automatically restarted and waiting for prompt.   :)

Anyways, a good PSU is a wise investment.

I think a 160GB or 250GB HDD for OS is an inefficient use of available hard drive bay within the case.  Consider 500GB as min - that's the common configuration for brand and BTO PCs nowadays. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Sep 03, 2009 at 08:58 AM
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Vista would normally update every Thursday wee hours hence when I wake up on Thursday morning

Yup...don't you hate it when this happens, and Vista almost always wants to restart, unlike XP, from what I noticed, the updates are getting less and less,and there seems to be less restarts. Looks like it's really gonna go by 2010.  :P

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Consider 500GB as min - that's the common configuration for brand and BTO PCs nowadays.

Yes, the most practical, stick to seagate, the firmware problem that plague the early 32mb. 500Gigs are now a thing of the past with the new slim ones. ;)
(I'm one of those victimized by the crash problem with the 1st gen 500gig drives, such sorrow to lose all that data,and to find out that people in america not only get a free rebate,but also have a data retrieval c/o seagate...woe to us poor people of the philippines  :'(  )
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: moejun on Sep 03, 2009 at 10:09 AM
in my case 24/7 is literal, blame it on my lousy internet connection. the only way i can download a decent number of movies in a month is if i leave my pc on all the time.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Sep 03, 2009 at 11:06 AM
in my case 24/7 is literal, blame it on my lousy internet connection. the only way i can download a decent number of movies in a month is if i leave my pc on all the time.

sir, just a suggestion ... better to upgrade your Internet connection - you'll be saving on electricity if you have a faster download and lesser wear and tear for your equipment ... the upgrade cost is worth it - cancels with the decrease on electrical bills with the lesser time required to download and improves the overall Internet access performance
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Sep 03, 2009 at 11:16 AM
The above statement is true, however, if your internet connection is really that fast, the problem is you'll be able to downlaod all the good ones in so short a time and will be downloading crap, and feeling irritable and impatient for the better movie, FLAC album or software to come.

The good downloads only arrive at least 1-2 every 2 weeks, unlike before, when downloading good stuff was a regular and the good torrent sites were all free from harassment.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: moejun on Sep 03, 2009 at 11:44 AM
raptor,

believe me, if i had a choice, i'd have switched ages ago. unfortunately, i only have one option.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tebenets on Sep 03, 2009 at 10:54 PM
The trend nowadays is to look for MoBo with Solid capacitors, ones that will ensure longevity of service, most especially most PC usage entails 24/7 use.

It's such a depressing experience once the MoBo gives in and even more painful, if it's only one capacitor. Chances are except if there's a clone of your MoBo, another reformat is needed.

So far, Asus & Gigabyte has available MoBo with solid caps here in metro Manila.

MSI has the weakest caps, I had 2 die in service, heard form my friend, that one internet shop with MSI, all crashed within a year.

Intel boards, are problematic since the beginning, they have a tendency to heat up and are more costly, no wonder, most shops don't carry them, but you can always get them on a per order basis, besides, I have yet to hear an Intel board with solid caps, maybe, they'll join in one of these days.

i see. i am using an intel mobo right now. so far haven't encountered serious problem/s. for my proposed htpc, i won't turn it on 24/7 and for downloading. instead, i plan to build a new pc (but lower spec than my current pc) or get a laptop. and i'll download at my bedroom.

i'm still figuring out which one to invest (laptop, htpc, or nmt). my brother has suggested to convert my current pc to htpc and invest in a laptop. but my problem is how to play my downloaded files to my crt tv, which is situated in the bedroom. the crt tv has component inputs
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Sep 04, 2009 at 08:40 AM
you can get something like this;
(http://usa.asus.com/websites/global/products/QY0Ud4MG0DMfXNiQ/P_500.jpg)

but I tell you, it's more exdpensive, here's the thread for the one selling pre-owned;
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=100890.0 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=100890.0)

There are full specs(C2D not Atom netbooks) laptops on sale now at Gilmore,mostly below 20K, and it's more economical than getting the above video card, since some laptops have an RCA/S-Video output.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 04, 2009 at 04:44 PM
i see. i am using an intel mobo right now. so far haven't encountered serious problem/s. for my proposed htpc, i won't turn it on 24/7 and for downloading. instead, i plan to build a new pc (but lower spec than my current pc) or get a laptop. and i'll download at my bedroom.

i'm still figuring out which one to invest (laptop, htpc, or nmt). my brother has suggested to convert my current pc to htpc and invest in a laptop. but my problem is how to play my downloaded files to my crt tv, which is situated in the bedroom. the crt tv has component inputs

Since you mentioned that your current PC is already C2D, you can buy a cheap model ATI card...maybe something like 34xx series or 43xx series.  For ATI cards, ang standard TV out is that S-video looking port - that port also serves as HD-out for HDTV connection (you can check the data sheets of ATI cards - they clearly show support for high resolution via that S-video port).  Im not sure if the S-Component Video dongle is supplied with the lower level ATIs but they surely are supplied with the higher ones (38xx or 48xx) - or you can buy separately.  Kaya yung PC ko, I can connect to HD CRTs via that configuration - result is absolutely fantastic IQ for 720p and 1080p mkvs.   Top to bottom models ng ATI cards, the HD video engine is the same, kaya you dont have to buy the expensive ones, unless you need high performance 3D (gaming).    Set your media player and codecs properly and you should be fine.

So maganda nga sigurong option ang decent laptop for 2nd PC. BTW, I dont understand why you have to build a new one with LOWER specs than what you have right now.  Baka mas magastos yon in the long run because of the need to upgrade.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tebenets on Sep 05, 2009 at 07:58 PM
Since you mentioned that your current PC is already C2D, you can buy a cheap model ATI card...maybe something like 34xx series or 43xx series.  For ATI cards, ang standard TV out is that S-video looking port - that port also serves as HD-out for HDTV connection (you can check the data sheets of ATI cards - they clearly show support for high resolution via that S-video port).  Im not sure if the S-Component Video dongle is supplied with the lower level ATIs but they surely are supplied with the higher ones (38xx or 48xx) - or you can buy separately.  Kaya yung PC ko, I can connect to HD CRTs via that configuration - result is absolutely fantastic IQ for 720p and 1080p mkvs.   Top to bottom models ng ATI cards, the HD video engine is the same, kaya you dont have to buy the expensive ones, unless you need high performance 3D (gaming).    Set your media player and codecs properly and you should be fine.

So maganda nga sigurong option ang decent laptop for 2nd PC. BTW, I dont understand why you have to build a new one with LOWER specs than what you have right now.  Baka mas magastos yon in the long run because of the need to upgrade.



for the video card, i plan to get a hdmi video card (nvidia 9400)

for the second part. i'm still choosing a laptop or a lower specs pc. lower specs kasi, i plan to use it for internet and downloading na lang. di na ako masyado mahilig sa mga games except yung mga gawa ng pop caps. para wala akong equipment na nakatambak lang. although a laptop would be nice, problema ko would be yung hindi ko magagamit na peripherals.

question: ok ba yung mga integrated video card sa laptop, lalo na yung mga may hdmi port na?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 05, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Check mo nalang ang S-video to component dongle availability for Nvidia cards.   Im not sure kung similar ang design ng ATI and Nvidia with regard to HD capability via that S-video port.

Malakas lang naman sa kuryente ang graphics card when loaded.  The new cards practically sleep when not doing 3D games.  So tingin ko pinakamatipid is not to buy a separate PC for internet or DL.  Set mo nalang all necessary media players and codecs sa current rig mo, get a discrete card to enable connection to a CRT TV, and that's it.  Matipid nga sa electric consumption ang bagong PC with lower spec or a laptop,but how many years of usage before you recover the cost of the PC itself?

I just purchased a Toshiba C2D laptop with Intel 4500MHD graphics and HDMI port after getting good feedback on such configuration from another member here.  Main application would be regular computing, internet and MKV watching via KM Player.  The HDMI port will definitely be used for connection to an HDTV.  Will post some feedback once my wife starts using - sa October pa dadating sa Pasig.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tebenets on Sep 05, 2009 at 10:40 PM
ang present card ko is ati radeon x1550. vga and dvi lang ang output (ata).

puede din siguro yung suggestion mo. but i plan to have my current rig stay with my home theater equipment. that's why i'm thinking of getting a laptop or lower spec pc for my use in the bedroom. pagagalitan ako ni mrs pag iniwan kong bukas yung pc. i also am planning to purchase a bd rom too.

maganda ba yung laptop na integrated yung video cards? dami nagsasabi na bumili ako ng may discrete video card kaso ang mahal. kursunada ko yung ACER Aspire 4736z series
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 06, 2009 at 12:52 AM
The only reason why I'm suggesting that you get a new ATI card is because you need TV out for CRT TV connection.  If your current X1550 has no such port, then research on availability of DVI/VGA to component video adapter or converter or dongle.  

With your planned HTPC, what kind of media do you have in mind by the way?  DVD, BD, MKV, AVI?  For BD playback, you must buy a card no less than an Nvidia7600GT or equivalent in addition to the BD ROM drive.  For MKV, AVI and DVD, you only need to install the right media player and codecs in your current C2D machine (Core 2 Duo and not Pentium D right?).  You dont even need to replace your X1550 if you connect to any kind of monitor via DVI or VGA.  

Explain to the wife the economies of all your options.  Right now, you already have a very capable PC for media playback.  Leaving it all night everyday to DL something will certainly cost less than investing on a dedicated DL PC.  A few hundred pesos in electric bill a month - how many months will it take to reach the cost of a new PC?  That's what my wife has been doing the past 3 years in Pasig.  The only reason why I finally got a laptop for her is inaangkin na ng anak ang PC and she doesnt want my Japanese OS laptops.  ;D   Just make sure you have a good quality PSU that can be safely made to run continuously and reliably.

Im trusting the feedback of dm1179 about the performance of the 4500MHD graphics engine on a C2D laptop, as well as the datasheets provided by Intel.   The heaviest application would be 1080p MKV playback and the processing power of a C2D alone would suffice.  No gaming plans. No BD plans.  I agree na mas maganda with discrete card, but I thought you want a low spec PC for DL in the first place?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tebenets on Sep 06, 2009 at 08:32 AM
The only reason why I'm suggesting that you get a new ATI card is because you need TV out for CRT TV connection.  If your current X1550 has no such port, then research on availability of DVI/VGA to component video adapter or converter or dongle.  

With your planned HTPC, what kind of media do you have in mind by the way?  DVD, BD, MKV, AVI?  For BD playback, you must buy a card no less than an Nvidia7600GT or equivalent in addition to the BD ROM drive.  For MKV, AVI and DVD, you only need to install the right media player and codecs in your current C2D machine (Core 2 Duo and not Pentium D right?).  You dont even need to replace your X1550 if you connect to any kind of monitor via DVI or VGA.

according to the user manual, it supports optional HDTV output feature for 720p and 1080i. it also has application support for blu-ray and HD-DVD.  :D
i just need to look for an s-video to component cable and dvi to hdmi dongle. and to enable the audio of Hdmi function, i need either a s/pdif in adapter or s/pdif cable (problem: my pc doesn't have s/pdif out but it has optical digital line out).

Explain to the wife the economies of all your options.  Right now, you already have a very capable PC for media playback.  Leaving it all night everyday to DL something will certainly cost less than investing on a dedicated DL PC.  A few hundred pesos in electric bill a month - how many months will it take to reach the cost of a new PC?  That's what my wife has been doing the past 3 years in Pasig.  The only reason why I finally got a laptop for her is inaangkin na ng anak ang PC and she doesnt want my Japanese OS laptops.  ;D   Just make sure you have a good quality PSU that can be safely made to run continuously and reliably.

ganun din mangyayari sa akin further down the road. once na nagkaanak na kami, hindi ko iiwan ng nakabukas yung pc kasi baka masira ng mga taong hindi nakakaalam. and definitely ibibigay ko sa magiging anak ko yung pc...

Im trusting the feedback of dm1179 about the performance of the 4500MHD graphics engine on a C2D laptop, as well as the datasheets provided by Intel.   The heaviest application would be 1080p MKV playback and the processing power of a C2D alone would suffice.  No gaming plans. No BD plans.  I agree na mas maganda with discrete card, but I thought you want a low spec PC for DL in the first place?

the low spec pc is an option. but i'm kind of leaning to a laptop para less clutters. tsaka I am going to make my house a wi-fi zone.

yung laptop, i intend to use it for downloading and i need for mobility to connect it to my bedroom crt tv ( medyo malayo yung pinaglalagyan) for playback ng mga media if we're in the bedroom lang.

although, another option is i get a mid range laptop and make it my htpc. but this will depend if i can afford one. nasa P45t and up ang mga prices.  :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 06, 2009 at 09:58 AM
tebenets base on your statement, you really want to get a new laptop  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tebenets on Sep 06, 2009 at 10:22 AM
I'm leaning towards it. but kaya ko naman pigilan sarili ko. hehehehe ;D

actually, i'm a pc guy. kasi i'm for upgradablity. unlike sa laptop na you're stuck with what you get. pero since middle age na ako, ok na lang sa akin ang laptop. nagbago pananaw ko nung lumabas yung mga netbooks. kumbaga, it brought down the prices of laptop.

right now kasi, iniisip ko kung what kind of laptop i'm going to get, kung sakali. i'm looking at the acer aspire 4736 series. pentium dual core nga lang pero with hdmi out.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 07, 2009 at 09:27 AM
right now kasi, iniisip ko kung what kind of laptop i'm going to get, kung sakali. i'm looking at the acer aspire 4736 series. pentium dual core nga lang pero with hdmi out.
intel 4500 chipset is good enough.  as long as you have the right codecs, i did encounter an issue or two (with hd dvd mkv convers).  then i got myself the amd version with 780g chipset running at hd3200 ati, that's when i stopped browsing for the next laptop upgrade  ;)  even the hard to play 1080p hddvd mkv files are easily played (make sure that your using the clondalkin special combo :D )
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 07, 2009 at 09:59 AM
according to the user manual, it supports optional HDTV output feature for 720p and 1080i. it also has application support for blu-ray and HD-DVD.  :D
i just need to look for an s-video to component cable and dvi to hdmi dongle. and to enable the audio of Hdmi function, i need either a s/pdif in adapter or s/pdif cable (problem: my pc doesn't have s/pdif out but it has optical digital line out).

Ayos!  So no need to replace the X1550 yet.  More than enough na ang 720p capability for CRT.  I can possibly set the resolution of my HD CRT so much higher via ATI's CCC, but lagpas-lagpas na sa screen.  Puede na yung optical digital line out as long as recognized and enabled sa Audio Settings mo - then set mo lang ng tama ang audio codec (AC3Filter for instance).



ganun din mangyayari sa akin further down the road. once na nagkaanak na kami, hindi ko iiwan ng nakabukas yung pc kasi baka masira ng mga taong hindi nakakaalam. and definitely ibibigay ko sa magiging anak ko yung pc...

Bro, baka mag-rally ang anak mo in 2015 if you hand him/her down a 2009 model PC.   ;D   



the low spec pc is an option. but i'm kind of leaning to a laptop para less clutters. tsaka I am going to make my house a wi-fi zone.

Ok noted. Just consider that you can possibly install a wireless adapter on a desktop too.



yung laptop, i intend to use it for downloading and i need for mobility to connect it to my bedroom crt tv ( medyo malayo yung pinaglalagyan) for playback ng mga media if we're in the bedroom lang.

I'd be much more worried leaving a laptop running 24/7 than a desktop due to heating not only at the bottom of the laptop itself but also of the adapter. 

Are you not considering a combination of PC and NMT in your house?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tebenets on Sep 07, 2009 at 09:13 PM

Are you not considering a combination of PC and NMT in your house?



i was considering one. pero advice sa akin na laptop is a better investment
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 07, 2009 at 09:47 PM
i was considering one. pero advice sa akin na laptop is a better investment

Well that depends on your planned usage.  A 2nd PC would certainly be more flexible in terms of having redundant full capabilities, while an NMT is primarily a 2nd playback unit for downloadable contents - it's also web and network-capable but apparently inferior to that of PC.

One of my most satisfying acquisitions in recent months is an Egreat 31B that has been "harmoniously" paired with a Dell dual core desktop PC.  The NMT is permanently connected to an HD CRT via component video in the main bedroom, while the PC is located in another room with its own LCD HDTV - two ways of watching 720p and 1080p contents simultaneously - very convenient.     All downloads are done through the PC only - mostly while the family is asleep. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tebenets on Sep 07, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Well that depends on your planned usage.  A 2nd PC would certainly be more flexible in terms of having redundant full capabilities, while an NMT is primarily a 2nd playback unit for downloadable contents - it's also web and network-capable but apparently inferior to that of PC.

One of my most satisfying acquisitions in recent months is an Egreat 31B that has been "harmoniously" paired with a Dell dual core desktop PC.  The NMT is permanently connected to an HD CRT via component video in the main bedroom, while the PC is located in another room with its own LCD HDTV - two ways of watching 720p and 1080p contents simultaneously - very convenient.     All downloads are done through the PC only - mostly while the family is asleep. 

my lcd tv is located at the living room. I could leave the pc on for the night but my internet connection is slow. (bayantel 899). downloading 1080p contents will take days.

for the crt tv in our room, i just need to find some cables to connect it to the component video in of the tv from the laptop. and it's a bit far from where my current pc is located.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 08, 2009 at 08:40 AM
my lcd tv is located at the living room. I could leave the pc on for the night but my internet connection is slow. (bayantel 899). downloading 1080p contents will take days.

That's why you should try to do the DL during the night para hindi abala sa daily routine, and mas malamig ng konti ang ambient temp (make sure to turn off the monitor and other PC accessories not needed).   If you try to DL something while doing social networking online, gagapang yung internet.   Acquisition of contents is another task you have to deal with.



for the crt tv in our room, i just need to find some cables to connect it to the component video in of the tv from the laptop. and it's a bit far from where my current pc is located.

May I ask what kind of CRT TV you have?  If it's not 720p or 1080i capable, it may not be worth connecting unless you plan to watch mostly sd stuff.   Maraming CRT TV models in Manila that are equipped with component video input but not capable of signals higher than 480p (DVD).  Pero magagamit pa rin kung sa magagamit of course.

Finally to quote Ninjababez,  "tebenets base on your statement, you really want to get a new laptop"   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tebenets on Sep 08, 2009 at 08:07 PM
That's why you should try to do the DL during the night para hindi abala sa daily routine, and mas malamig ng konti ang ambient temp (make sure to turn off the monitor and other PC accessories not needed).   If you try to DL something while doing social networking online, gagapang yung internet.   Acquisition of contents is another task you have to deal with.

sabagay... pero, as a start di muna. eventually, if i could make a proper home theater setup, baka ganun ang gagawin ko...


May I ask what kind of CRT TV you have?  If it's not 720p or 1080i capable, it may not be worth connecting unless you plan to watch mostly sd stuff.   Maraming CRT TV models in Manila that are equipped with component video input but not capable of signals higher than 480p (DVD).  Pero magagamit pa rin kung sa magagamit of course.

Finally to quote Ninjababez,  "tebenets base on your statement, you really want to get a new laptop"   ;D

it's a sony 29inch wega.

with regards to the last part, mukhang inclined na ako kumuha ng laptop. been researching kung alin ang sulit bilhin...  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tebenets on Sep 08, 2009 at 08:24 PM
sana dumating ito dito:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/fujitsu-esprimo-q1500-flexes-blu-ray-muscle-on-video/#continued

cost about 699 euros if you opt for a dvd drive. and will be introduce first in germany.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Sep 14, 2009 at 02:16 PM
my wife's cousin is asking tips for a new htpc/gaming pc, as a 780g user, i might recommend my current specs. but what's the counterpart (or closest) Intel based mobo to the AMD 780g?  

AMD - 780g + HD 4770
Intel - Mobo (?) + 9500GT

TIA  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 14, 2009 at 03:03 PM
my wife's cousin is asking tips for a new htpc/gaming pc, as a 780g user, i might recommend my current specs. but what's the counterpart (or closest) Intel based mobo to the AMD 780g?  

AMD - 780g + HD 4770
Intel - Mobo (?) + 9500GT

TIA  :)

Intel:  P45/G45/ X48** based MOBO + ATI or Nvidia Graphics Card

**.  Ibang level na ang X48 - baka lang interested ang cousin sa crossfire in case.

How's your 4770 Bro?  Wala namang nagbago sa electric bill diba?



Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Sep 14, 2009 at 10:02 PM
very happy with the 4770  ;D sulit na sulit

electric bill hardly noticeable bro, di nag rereklamo si misis eh  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 14, 2009 at 10:36 PM
very happy with the 4770  ;D sulit na sulit

electric bill hardly noticeable bro, di nag rereklamo si misis eh  ;D
can this output hd audio via hdmi?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Sep 15, 2009 at 04:48 AM
@ninj: sorry I can't tell as of now, im currently using an old atp3 on my pc  :-\
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 15, 2009 at 06:05 AM
@ninj: sorry I can't tell as of now, im currently using an old atp3 on my pc  :-\
what's the brand?  maybe i can check it online  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Sep 15, 2009 at 09:34 AM
Powercolor HD 4770  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: oj88 on Sep 15, 2009 at 09:43 AM
Hi, new here. Here's my first attempt at building an HTPC (DIY-assembled less than two weeks ago):

Motherboard: Emaxx AMD780G-Pro+
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 7750 (Dual-core @ 2.7GHz)
Video: ATI Radeon HD3200 GPU (On-board)
RAM: 2GB DDR2 800 Geil Dual-Channel (2 x 1GB sticks)
HDD: 1TB Seagate 7200.12
Optical Drive: Liteon IHAS424 24X DVD-RW SATA with LS
Case: Astone Enforcer Flex (SFF mATX)
Remote: CDR-King MCE remote
Keyboard: CDR-King mini wireless keyboard with built-in trackball
Speakers: Xenon AX-302
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate RTM
Pending items:

Hauppauge HVR-2250 Tuner
UPS

Pics:

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/orlyp/IMG_8246.jpg)

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/orlyp/IMG_8247.jpg)

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/orlyp/IMG_8245.jpg)

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/orlyp/IMG_8269.jpg)

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/orlyp/Win7Details-1.png)


This is purely for HT use, as I have a separate quad-core rig running Win7 x64 RTM for everything else.

Would anybody know where I can locally buy the Hauppauge HVR-2250 MCE-certified tuner?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 15, 2009 at 11:06 AM
How much did everything cost sir sans the OS?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 15, 2009 at 11:13 AM
What's the highest available class/model of CPU that can be supported by the 780G/790G chipset? 

Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dyerds on Sep 15, 2009 at 12:31 PM
I think 790g can support the top-of-the-line Phenom II X4 of AMD. I don't know 'bout 780 though.

Here's the link sir to help you.

http://products.amd.com/en-us/desktopcpuresult.aspx?f1=AMD+Phenom%E2%84%A2+II+X4&f2=&f3=&f4=512&f5=&f6=C2&f7=45nm+SOI&f8=&f9=&f10=False&f11= (http://products.amd.com/en-us/desktopcpuresult.aspx?f1=AMD+Phenom%E2%84%A2+II+X4&f2=&f3=&f4=512&f5=&f6=C2&f7=45nm+SOI&f8=&f9=&f10=False&f11=)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: spidermanph on Sep 15, 2009 at 01:16 PM
Hi all. Do you have feedbacks or review of the ASROck Ion330?

This one.
(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/Temp2/ION330Ad1.jpg)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Sep 15, 2009 at 07:37 PM
Hi all. Do you have feedbacks or review of the ASROck Ion330?

Thanks.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=96949.30 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=96949.30)

for personal feedback and review, contact kruger and steph.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: oj88 on Sep 15, 2009 at 07:46 PM
How much did everything cost sir sans the OS?

Except the OS, roughly 16k.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Sep 15, 2009 at 11:13 PM
i think the 780g pro+ can accomodate X3
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 16, 2009 at 07:33 AM
Except the OS, roughly 16k.

Not bad.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sientobente on Sep 23, 2009 at 12:39 PM
I tried to use one of my old computers as an HTPC and surprisingly it does work well even with 4GB mkv files. Here are the specs:

Pentium 4 1.80 GHz
1GB DDR RAM
30GB IDE HDD
Nvidia Geforce 5500 with DVI port(AGP)
Samsung DVD writer
Some old asus mobo
Western Digital Mybook 1TB external hard drive
I use VLC and Media Player Classic as my player
Connected to my Panasonic 42PV70

My only problems are, if it will play a 4GB mkv file there is a lag of 5-8 seconds before the file plays and when I fast forward or rewind, it does the same. Overall, if we are looking for a budget HTPC, then those cheap AMD dual cores will do the job beautifully coupled with a PCI-express video card.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Sep 23, 2009 at 11:40 PM
@sientobente
tnx for the info..planning to build one rin kasi using amd dual core platform..i think the delay on your mkv is due to you processor..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sientobente on Sep 25, 2009 at 11:57 AM
@emo_punk
yup i definitely think it's the processor plus given the fact that it only runs on 1GB of ram  :)  there's a big difference between my core 2 duo htpc and this pentium 4 but overall the old pentium's playability and usability is tolerable  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CaLvs on Nov 02, 2009 at 07:12 PM
i would like to ask an opinion from you guys. these are the specs i've been eyeing for. it will be used for gaming and htpc :D  questions lang sana guys, bago lang kasi ako sa HTPC. How can i get a dolby or dts signal from this rig? comments and suggestions are very welcome if medyo may mas okay kayong hardware na alam na pwede incorporate dito. thanks so much.

Intel core i7-920
MSI x58 PRO (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2009/03/12/msi-x58-pro-review/2)
Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333MHZ
Inno3d GTS 250  1GB DDR3
Seagate 250GB Sata
Corsair 620W Power supply
Cooler master cm690 casing

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gutierrez on Nov 02, 2009 at 07:54 PM
i would like to ask an opinion from you guys. these are the specs i've been eyeing for. it will be used for gaming and htpc :D  questions lang sana guys, bago lang kasi ako sa HTPC. How can i get a dolby or dts signal from this rig? comments and suggestions are very welcome if medyo may mas okay kayong hardware na alam na pwede incorporate dito. thanks so much.

Intel core i7-920
MSI x58 PRO (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2009/03/12/msi-x58-pro-review/2)
Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333MHZ
Inno3d GTS 250  1GB DDR3
Seagate 250GB Sata
Corsair 620W Power supply
Cooler master cm690 casing



change your video card to at least gtx para suave!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Nov 03, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Comment ko lang:

Ang multicore(i7) ay bagay sa multitasking sa video editing...pwede rin naman sa gaming kaya lang parang sayang...sa C2D o' AMD 64X2 ay sapat na sapat na sa gaming rig...ika nga' walang na-sa-sayang.

Ang MSI ay kila-lang bumi-bigay sa gaming...naka bust na ang anak ko nang capacitor nito...ang dapat mong hanapin kung pang gaming ay iyun' may mga na-kalagay na high end solid capacitors na may "Long Life"...pag ito' kasi ang nasira..iyak ka talaga. Ang Asus at Gigabyte ay kilala na sa solid capacitors, kaya nga sikat ngayon sa Gaming.

OK ang NVIDIA...pero sa mga gumagawa nang NVIDIA..Inno3D ang bumibigay.
Sa experience ko at nang kapatid ko...basta Inno3D na-si-sira ang cooling system. Mas OK ang Palit at Sparkle..kung mga entry level...pero pang ibang high end na brand...mas mahal nga lang.

Sa PSU naman..maganda talaga ang Corsair...kaya lang...mahal...eh' Intel pa ang gagamitin mo...mukhang sobra sobra ang 620W...lahat kasi ngayon ay power efficient na, pati mga Video card ay power efficient na rin...tapos mas mataas ang rating mas dagdag sa init nang casing.

Sa RAM naman..diyan ka mag CORSAIR, iyun bang may fin coolers.

OK naman ang 250G na HDD, kaya lang...mura na lahat ngayon...iba narin ang may excess storage...para sa Movies (MKV ay 7 to 15Gb).

Sa casing...taste taste iyan eh...pero ako, mas gusto ko ang mga Antec ' kaya kung bongga Thermaltake...di' kailangan nang extra fans(dito tumataas ang kailangan nang PSU)...malamig na ang loob.

Sa uling tuntunin...ika nga taste taste iyan...may expereince ka narin siguro, nag share lang naman ako nang mga na-experience ko. ;) ;D


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: keema on Nov 04, 2009 at 03:54 PM
Mga sirs ano po bang specs or ilang gig po ba ang dapat para makapag output/play ka ng 1080p na movies yung kailangan ng dedicated videocard?

salamat po..:)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Nov 04, 2009 at 04:57 PM
Bro, you might want to review or back read the thread. Nandoon lahat ng sagot ng katanungan mo.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: andlisten on Nov 05, 2009 at 02:50 PM
ASUS HTPC MOBO w/ Remote control   :o

M4A78-HTPC/RC

(http://www.technotalks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/asusm4a78-htpc.jpg)



Building the Dream Home Theater PC
•AMD AM3 CPU support
•ASUS Absolute Pitch Hi-Fi
•ASUS Home Theater Gate with bundled Remote Controller
•ASUS Tranquil Mode
•Express Gate

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=ZnqQ7mgk0PCl8PpQ
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kapitbahay on Nov 16, 2009 at 02:33 AM
exactly the mobo i was looking for!!! tnx for sharing  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kyleryner on Nov 16, 2009 at 01:43 PM
ASUS HTPC MOBO w/ Remote control   :o

M4A78-HTPC/RC

ASUS!!  :) Sayang.. kakabili ko lang ng mobo 3 weeks ago... only last week ko lang naisipan pwede nga palang gumawa ng HTPC..bagong bili rin lang 32" LCD TV ko...

Magkano kaya itong mobo na to?

Just experimenting w/ my PC to LCDTV setup (yesterday ko pa lang nakabitan via 5 mtr HDMI cable)

Setup XBMC Media Center...

pwede kaya dito yung PC Remote control fr CDRKing?

Any nicer/better Media Center (Open Source of Free sana) that you can reco? thanks...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kapitbahay on Nov 16, 2009 at 03:08 PM
Ah, sorry the Asus MoBo is a disappointment for me. The sound chip is very primitive (a real HTPC should have a multi-speaker setup at least a 5.1). The remote control isn't for Media Center, its for its own media software which has limited functionality. It has HDMI connections but offers no recording capability.

For a little extra money, its better to buy a different MoBo instead and separate tuner/capture card with a  remote control compatible with Media Center and a surround-capable sound card. You get better features and the ability to record. Sorry.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CaLvs on Nov 16, 2009 at 07:08 PM
Eto na po ang set up ko.  ;D

Asus P7P55D mobo
Intel i5
MSI HD 5750 ddr5
4 GB(dual)ddr3 OCZ gold edition
Corsair 750 watts
Cooler master storm scout

(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq301/calvspogi/DSC_0146.jpg)

(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq301/calvspogi/DSC_0181-1.jpg)

(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq301/calvspogi/DSC_0179-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Nov 16, 2009 at 08:12 PM
nice! magkano inaabot lang?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 17, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Eto na po ang set up ko.  ;D

Asus P7P55D mobo
Intel i5
MSI HD 5750 ddr5
4 GB(dual)ddr3 OCZ gold edition
Corsair 750 watts
Cooler master storm scout

looks like a mid end gaming rig for me  :D :D
Ah, sorry the Asus MoBo is a disappointment for me. The sound chip is very primitive (a real HTPC should have a multi-speaker setup at least a 5.1). The remote control isn't for Media Center, its for its own media software which has limited functionality. It has HDMI connections but offers no recording capability.

For a little extra money, its better to buy a different MoBo instead and separate tuner/capture card with a  remote control compatible with Media Center and a surround-capable sound card. You get better features and the ability to record. Sorry.
thanks for the warning bro.  next in line pa naman yan sa upgrade path ko..  >:(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CaLvs on Nov 17, 2009 at 07:13 AM
hehehe. mahilig din kasi ako mag games sir. btw, pano kaya po ako makakapag output ng DTS and DD audio from my mobo? baguhan pa lang po kasi ako when it comes to that.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CaLvs on Nov 17, 2009 at 07:15 AM
nice! magkano inaabot lang?

sent you a pm sir.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 17, 2009 at 04:16 PM
hehehe. mahilig din kasi ako mag games sir. btw, pano kaya po ako makakapag output ng DTS and DD audio from my mobo? baguhan pa lang po kasi ako when it comes to that.  ;D
regular dd and dts, thru spdif. according to this image it has both coax and toslink/optic at the rear panel.

(http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/801/icon2.jpg)

hd audio needs hdmi audio out, though im not sure if its capable of it   :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CaLvs on Nov 17, 2009 at 07:18 PM
regular dd and dts, thru spdif. according to this image it has both coax and toslink/optic at the rear panel.

(http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/801/icon2.jpg)

hd audio needs hdmi audio out, though im not sure if its capable of it   :)

awts. ganun po ba sir? kelangan ko pa tlga sir ng AVR?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 18, 2009 at 03:27 PM
awts. ganun po ba sir? kelangan ko pa tlga sir ng AVR?
you can always use the analog 5.1 (or 7.1)  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 19, 2009 at 12:10 AM
regular dd and dts, thru spdif. according to this image it has both coax and toslink/optic at the rear panel.

(http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/801/icon2.jpg)

hd audio needs hdmi audio out, though im not sure if its capable of it   :)

Bro my ASUS M3N78-VM also looks the same at the back but the co-axial is SPDIF-IN and not out.  Only the optical has SPDIF-OUT.  I'm just confirming if the said MOBO has both SPDIF out on both optical and coaxial.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 19, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Bro my ASUS M3N78-VM also looks the same at the back but the co-axial is SPDIF-IN and not out.  Only the optical has SPDIF-OUT.  I'm just confirming if the said MOBO has both SPDIF out on both optical and coaxial.
doc does this mean it can record digital audio?  if that's the case then .. KEWL ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CaLvs on Nov 20, 2009 at 12:18 PM
bale sir, kelan ko bumili ng soundcard na may coaxial output? im thinking of buying na of logitech z5500 muna. hope you guys can help me on what brand or mas maganda, specific na soundcard na talaga to consolidate with z5500. salamat ng marami mga sir.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 20, 2009 at 01:02 PM
bale sir, kelan ko bumili ng soundcard na may coaxial output? im thinking of buying na of logitech z5500 muna. hope you guys can help me on what brand or mas maganda, specific na soundcard na talaga to consolidate with z5500. salamat ng marami mga sir.
no need na bro, bili ka nung sinend ko sayo sa sos baka meron.  or try tipidpc
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: air ween on Dec 05, 2009 at 01:33 AM
hello po.. its been awhile since i last posted here sa thread.. my last post as far as i can remember was when i asked for an advise if ill be getting this units:

22 inch AOC LCD Monitor
q6600 intel quadcore 2.4ghs for every core
geforce 9600gt 1ghz
2gb ddr2 RAM
gigabyte motherboard
320 sata drive
HEX Power Supply

for 20k, which I did but we settled 25.. now, balak ko na sya ibenta.. i will be including an original OS (Windows Vista Home Premium), additional 2g DDR2 RAM and an external DVD writer. mga magkano ko po kaya sya pwede ibenta? I settled with E-great nalang kasi and I'm planing to buy a laptop nalang to free-up space sa room. actually nanghihinayang din akong ibenta pero gusto ko talagang maglaptop nalang eh since di ko naman namamaximize yung power nya for gaming, since may ps3 naman ako and more on browsing/downloading lang, or as HTPC..
thanks po sa magiging inputs. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Dec 09, 2009 at 04:21 AM
Windows Vista Home Premium SP1
AMD Turion X2 RM-74 2.2GHz 1MB L2 cache
ATI Radeon HD4570
4GB RAM

playing NOT DXVA compliant 1080p flawlessly...

is this a laptop?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 09, 2009 at 08:07 AM
is this a laptop?
looks like it is  :)
pretty kewl huh  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Dec 09, 2009 at 02:50 PM
panalo

upgradeable ba vidcards ng laptop? available ba locally?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: keema on Dec 09, 2009 at 04:08 PM
looks like it is  :)
pretty kewl huh  :)

Hmm...what model and brand of laptop po sir?

Thanks..:)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 09, 2009 at 04:29 PM
upgradeable ba vidcards ng laptop?

99.99% not feasible Bro.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 10, 2009 at 04:52 AM
99.99% not feasible Bro.
agree!  youll end up spending more!
so buy the highest specs if you can, then dont look back  :D :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: marlocaps on Dec 16, 2009 at 08:34 PM
hi gurus,

Can you recommend an HTPC than can do an NMT and PS3 function? I was initially planning to purchase WDTV live and Ps3 pero the HTPC looks better in terms of function and price wise. I'm into downloading 1080P movies and playing NBA 2K10. My LCD is a 32LH70. TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Dec 17, 2009 at 04:37 AM
hi gurus,

Can you recommend an HTPC than can do an NMT and PS3 function? I was initially planning to purchase WDTV live and Ps3 pero the HTPC looks better in terms of function and price wise. I'm into downloading 1080P movies and playing NBA 2K10. My LCD is a 32LH70. TIA

how much is your working budget?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Dec 17, 2009 at 11:19 AM
PS3....ehem.....di' pwede.  :'( (di' wala nang bumili nang PS3)  ;D
Bluray capability...Yes....even dual core(intel or AMD) processors can be configured to play Bluray discs ,but on the safe side, a C2D processor is the best with a minimum of 2.2Ghz and paired with a BluRay ROM and Powerdvd software(with bluray capability)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: marlocaps on Dec 17, 2009 at 02:23 PM
how much is your working budget?

around 25K lahat na po yun..with keyboard and control pad..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Dec 17, 2009 at 02:41 PM
HTPC & Gaming Desktop

Processor: AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0Ghz  P3,400
Motherboard:  Emaxx AMD780G-Pro P3,100
Hard Drives SATA:  500GB Seagate 7200RPM SATA 16MB P2,450
Memory DDR2:  4GB DDR2 800 Geil Dual P4,750
Video Card PCI-E:  PowerColor HD5770 1GB 128Bit GDDR5 P8,200
Optical Drive:  LG DVD-RW SATA with LS P1,250
Casing:  Duke DUO8A with 500W PSU  P1,550
Mouse:  A4Tech Optical USB  P 250
Keyboard:  A4Tech Game Master P450

Total: P25,400
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 17, 2009 at 02:51 PM
Processor: AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0Ghz  P3,400
Motherboard:  Emaxx AMD780G-Pro AVL/DDR2/PCI-E P3,100
Hard Drives SATA:  500GB Seagate 7200RPM SATA 16MB P2,450
Memory DDR2:  4GB DDR2 800 Geil Dual P4,750
Video Card PCI-E:  PowerColor HD5770 1GB 128Bit GDDR5 P8,200
Optical Drive:  LG DVD-RW 22X GH22LS30 SATA with LS P1,250
Casing:  Duke DUO8A with 500W PSU  P1,550
Mouse:  A4Tech 2X Click Optical OP-620D USB  P 250
Keyboard:  A4Tech Game Master KB-28G PS/2  P450

Total: P25,400


At the prevailing prices of new graphics cards nowadays, I would rather set the limit to 5K (ATI 47XX or 48XX series) and then the extra 3K would be spent for a more powerful CPU.  I think you'd have a better balance in terms of 1080p playability and 3D gaming with that.  What processor can you buy for around 6K-7K?

Pero if you want to have HD-audio compliance, then you'd have to get at least an ATI 5 series.  
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Dec 17, 2009 at 03:00 PM
a AMD Phenom II X4 810 2.6Ghz worth P 7,350
then get an ATI HD4770  ;D

im not sure if the Phenom X4 is compatible with the 780G mobo  :-\
or it should be paired with an AMD790GX-XTRM mobo worth P 5,650.00
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Dec 17, 2009 at 03:10 PM
baguhin natin  :)

Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 810 2.6Ghz P7,350
Motherboard: Emaxx AMD790GX-XTRM P5,650
Hard Drive:  500GB Seagate 7200RPM SATA 16MB P2,450
Memory DDR2:  4GB DDR2 800 Geil Dual P4,750
Video Card PCI-E:  ATI Radeon HD4770 512MB DDR5  P5,000
Optical Drive: LG DVD-RWSATA with LS P1,250
Casing: Duke DUO8A with 500W PSU  P1,550
Mouse: A4Tech Optical USB P250
Keyboard:  A4Tech Game Master P450

total P28,700
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 17, 2009 at 03:20 PM
baguhin natin  :)

Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 810 2.6Ghz P7,350
Motherboard: Emaxx AMD790GX-XTRM P5,650
Hard Drive:  500GB Seagate 7200RPM SATA 16MB P2,450
Memory DDR2:  4GB DDR2 800 Geil Dual P4,750
Video Cards PCI-E:  ATI Radeon HD4770 512MB DDR5  P5,000
Optical Drive: LG DVD-RWSATA with LS P1,250
Casing: Duke DUO8A with 500W PSU  P1,550
Mouse: A4Tech Optical USB P250
Keyboard:  A4Tech Game Master P450

total P28,700

Pati prices ng major components, mukhang balanced.    ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Dec 17, 2009 at 03:42 PM
an Intel Based system will cost more

I wonder why RAMs significantly increased its average price from 6 months ago? they cost almost double today :-\
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Dec 17, 2009 at 04:04 PM
Gusto raw niya Bluray....kaya Bluray ROM dapat, may 4K raw na Bluray ROM....writer lang ang wala.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 17, 2009 at 04:09 PM
dahil sa "PS3 function", naging mas mura pang bumili ng PS3 and one of those 6-7K na media players.   ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: marlocaps on Dec 17, 2009 at 04:25 PM
dahil sa "PS3 function", naging mas mura pang bumili ng PS3 and one of those 6-7K na media players.   ;)

bkt po mas mura? kac if you have an HTPC then why will you buy pa the BD player?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Dec 17, 2009 at 04:33 PM
dahil sa "PS3 function", naging mas mura pang bumili ng PS3 and one of those 6-7K na media players.   ;)

OO 15.2K na lang....tapos tunay na Bluray pa, at balitang balita sa tibay ang PS3.....Kung HTPC kasi, dapat HDD ang habol mo (rip the movie then watch via HDD), kung hindi, sayang din ang optical drive mo(imagine mo real time, tapos bluray, pati processor hirap....eh' quad core o' i7 ang bagsak mo....40K bigla ang budget  :P :'(

.....tapos....siyempre...Bluray na...eh'....LED na 55" naman ang kasunod....o' kaya projector na 1080p. 350K na ang kailangan mo....dahil lang may HTPC ka na Bluray.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Dec 18, 2009 at 04:58 AM
@marlo: if you're planning for purely games & movies, get a ps3, it can be used din naman for bluray playback

pero if you need other functions, get an htpc
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 18, 2009 at 07:37 AM
an Intel Based system will cost more

I wonder why RAMs significantly increased its average price from 6 months ago? they cost almost double today :-\
it's a cycle bro, check the price in feb of next year.  baba ulit yan  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Dec 18, 2009 at 09:59 AM
it's a cycle bro, check the price in feb of next year.  baba ulit yan  ;)

1st semester pala dapat ideal mag buo, thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 18, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Cant really predict that Bros. Para ring OPEC ang DRAM makers.  They cut their production output,  but PC system vendors continue replenishing their DRAM inventory under their prevailing low bulk pricing status, kaya the leftover supply sa DIY market became very tight and resulted in significant price increase for individual buyers.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: @nk71 on Dec 23, 2009 at 01:00 PM
Guys ask ko lang...need some tip on configuring my software HTPC set-up

Im using the latest K-lite codec and ac3filter
regarding sa SPDIF passthrough configuration

while playing MKV files + coaxial cable + reciever do we have to check both AC3 and DTS (ac3filter spdif passthrough)
coz napansin ko pag AC3 lang nakacheck ang lakas ng sounds pag nagplayplay ng DTS movie, pero ang receiver ko nadedetect lang is Dolby Digital, pag chineck ko naman DTS din, humihina pero ang detection ng Reciever ko is DTS mismo...(I have to crank the volume abit to enjoy the movie specially the center channel)

which is which...sa MKV movies naman na encoded with AC3 walang issues..
pls advice thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 23, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Guys ask ko lang...need some tip on configuring my software HTPC set-up

Im using the latest K-lite codec and ac3filter
regarding sa SPDIF passthrough configuration

while playing MKV files + coaxial cable + reciever do we have to check both AC3 and DTS (ac3filter spdif passthrough)
coz napansin ko pag AC3 lang nakacheck ang lakas ng sounds pag nagplayplay ng DTS movie, pero ang receiver ko nadedetect lang is Dolby Digital, pag chineck ko naman DTS din, humihina pero ang detection ng Reciever ko is DTS mismo...(I have to crank the volume abit to enjoy the movie specially the center channel)

which is which...sa MKV movies naman na encoded with AC3 walang issues..
pls advice thanks
ganyan din nangyayari sakin pero nilalakasan ko nalang  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 04, 2010 at 10:41 AM
Regarding sa desktop looks better in VGA and movies in HDMI...
If tama pagkakaalala ko and similar topic yung nabasa ko, for HTPCs connected to Samsung LCD HDTVs via HDMI, you should use HDMI2 port behind the TV (as also stated in the manual) AND for some reason, everything becomes better if you rename "HDMI2" to "PC".  I don't know why, can someone confirm this? My HTPC is connected via VGA only.

OT: this is the same case with ps3 slim.. Just got one last week.  Resolution looks crappy on other HDMI ports, except on HDMI2, and you need to rename it to PC as well...Will need to buy an HDMI splitter..or a new A/V receiver which will split my connection ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jan 04, 2010 at 11:18 AM
Gurus'

Question: Same Video quality at resolution ba ang ganitong connection?

htpc --->>>> HDMI cable --->>>> 1080p LCD TV

at ang

htpc --->>> DVI(out from HTPC)>>(VGA in on LCD TV)--->>> 1080p LCD TV

 ??? ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Jan 04, 2010 at 12:43 PM
Mas maganda at crisp ang output via HDMI from HTPC based from personal settings but you can back track some threads regarding this matter. Kasi some claimed that dvi/vga connection from HTPC to LCDTV mas maganda. HTH.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 15, 2010 at 06:08 PM
Mas maganda at crisp ang output via HDMI from HTPC based from personal settings but you can back track some threads regarding this matter. Kasi some claimed that dvi/vga connection from HTPC to LCDTV mas maganda. HTH.  ;)

IIRC same output lang but some settings in VGA connection is disabled.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: bejiboys on Jan 15, 2010 at 11:55 PM
Mac Mini 2.26 2GB for me.  Do-it-all setup: media player, wireless lan access point, downloader, streamer to ps3, NAS, GarageBand!, basic word processing over a 50" screen, digital frame,....and a lot more for so little space.  If only digital multi-channel audio were available via the minidisplayport.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dyerds on Jan 16, 2010 at 04:31 AM
Gurus'

Question: Same Video quality at resolution ba ang ganitong connection?

This one is better.

htpc --->>>> HDMI cable --->>>> 1080p LCD TV


You may also use an hdmi to dvi adapter. Its pq is also the same with hdmi to hdmi.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/a3ci2u.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on Jan 17, 2010 at 11:10 PM
My aging gaming rig now an HTPC (dahil nagsawa na sa games)....

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/nmeuvdast8/Desktop011510.jpg)

Main Parts:
Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz with Xigmatek Achilles HSF
Motherboard - Asus Commando
Memory - G. Skill F2-6400PHU2-GBHZ 2x1 GB DDR2 800MHz
Video Card - Palit 8800 GTS 320MB

Storage:
OS / System - WD1600JS 160GB SATA II HDD
Files - WD2500KS 250GB SATA II HDD
Media Files - WD10EACS 1TB Green Power SATA II HDD

Miscellaneous:
TV Tuner - el cheapo CDR-King iTV800 MCE (use to have a Leadtek TV2000XP, but MCE cannot detect it)
Monitor - Samsung T240HD (24" 1920x1200 res LCD Monitor with Builtin TV Tuner)
Speakers - Logitech Z-2300 2.1 Channel THX Certified 200W RMS Speakers
Case - CoolerMaster Stacker STC-T01 Full Tower ATX Case
PSU - HEC WinPower 550AB
KB - Logitech Illuminated Keyboard
Mouse - Logitech G5 Battelfield 2142 Edition
ODD - Sony DRU-845S DVD Writer / Asus 2014L1T DVD Writer
Multimedia Display / Remote Receiver - Antec Veris Multimedia Station Premiere
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/nmeuvdast8/AntecVeris.jpg)

Need to upgrade the main parts, medyo mabagal na for video encoding!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Jan 21, 2010 at 12:30 PM
sharing my current HTPC at home:

(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/Temp3/CQ4000_1.jpg)

Compaq CQ4000 Slim PC

Intel Dual Core E5400
2GB DDR3 1066MHz
ATI Radeon HD4350 HDMI
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Rak-Rak on Jan 24, 2010 at 08:25 PM
How about power supply...will we rely on stock psu from the generic pc casings?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Jan 25, 2010 at 09:25 AM
^I suggest you go get yourself a branded PSU for your security and peace of mind. unlike a gaming rig, a typical HTPC setup only requires < 200W power. a Corsair CX400 (80PLUS certified) would be more than enough for this. if really on a budget, get an HEC Raptor 500.

(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/Temp1/retailPC4.jpg)

(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww356/temp_album_photo/Temp1/retailPC5.jpg)

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=182400&page=1 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=182400&page=1)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: bosyo on Feb 02, 2010 at 12:49 PM
my very very old setup 1999-2000

(http://i45.tinypic.com/eikygp.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2yjwv1j.jpg)

Specs :(
Ubuntu 9.10, Pentium 4 1.6Ghz, 2Gig RDRAM, Nvidia Ti4200, SB Audigy 2 Platinum
Sub: Modified Altec ACS-45 removed sat.
Interconnects : Monster Cable, Ixos

Connections:
ONKYO <----- Mosters Cable Coaxial IDL 100 ---> Audigy 2
ONKYO <----- Mosters Cable Analog MK II ---> Pioneer DVD
ONKYO <----- Digital SPDIF ---> Pioneer DVD

So far so good til now :)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Feb 11, 2010 at 07:43 PM
Sir bosyo sulit na sulit na yan ha? baka bigla kang mag-upgrade in the future, akin na lang yung SB Audigy 2 Platinum mo...hehehe ::)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cyberave on Feb 23, 2010 at 06:48 PM
sir ninjababez pareho tayu ng laptop, puede palang backup htpc, panu kung walang hdmi yung AVR ko (yamaha-rxv450). possible bang kumuha ng digital signal using 3.5mm/optical adapter sa compaq cq40-310au? Nagtry kasi ako gumamit nun adapter kasama sa audio pro na optical cable kaso hindi ko mapagana sa klite.
Tried setting audio properties wala pa rin. Baka me idea ka sir panu paganahin.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 05, 2010 at 10:58 PM
sir ninjababez pareho tayu ng laptop, puede palang backup htpc, panu kung walang hdmi yung AVR ko (yamaha-rxv450). possible bang kumuha ng digital signal using 3.5mm/optical adapter sa compaq cq40-310au? Nagtry kasi ako gumamit nun adapter kasama sa audio pro na optical cable kaso hindi ko mapagana sa klite.
Tried setting audio properties wala pa rin. Baka me idea ka sir panu paganahin.
tried that already, never worked.  you need to get the HP dock.   :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jpadua on Apr 12, 2010 at 12:57 PM
I missed this thread!

I after a long hiatus from building HTPCs I finally decided to build one again with some new and old parts I had lying around the house...

Now completely working and functional!

mITX ASUS intel ION mother board with HDMI output runs 720p and 1080p (optical and coax output) with Blue tooth transmitter
MSI USB wifi G adaptor
2GB Team Elite Ram Modules
ATI Theater 550 TV Capture Card
Hiper slim media case
160GB Harddrive
MCE Remote
External DVDRW drive (plan to upgrade to slot drive BDRW drive)

All I need to do now is configure TVXB to create listings for philippine cable channels and I'm all set.  I was able to do this successfully with older versions of MCE now fiddling around with MCE 7 home premium.

Will post pix soon.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Apr 12, 2010 at 02:08 PM
Processor: AMD Phenom II X3 720 B.E @ 3.4Ghz
Motherboard: MSI 790FX-GD70
Hard Drive:  80GB, 200GB,500GB & 1TB Seagate 7200RPM SATA
Memory: Patriot DDR3 1333Mhz 4x2GB = 8GB
Video Card PCI-E:  SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X HD 4850 2x1GB GDDR3 PCI-E CrossfireX
Optical Drive: LG DVD-RW
Casing: Lian-Li PC7
Mouse: Logitech E100 Wireless
Keyboard:  Logitech E100 Wireless
PSU: Gigabyte 550W
Speaker: A-Audio 2.1 Speaker by DIY_Master ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: stick on Apr 17, 2010 at 09:43 AM
Just an upgrade in my HTPC: (in red)
Display:  Samsung 22" LA22A450 (1680 x 1050) LCD TV HD Ready (720p/1080i accepts 1080p)
CPU:  AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000 2.6GHz(65W)
MB:  ECS A780GM-A
Video:  On-board ATI HD3200
Mem:  2 x 1Gb Kingston DDR2 400MHz (1 Gb shared for video)
HDD:  Seagate 160Gb internal / Fugitsu 40Gb external 2.5" / Seagate 500Gb x 2
Drive:  LiteOn 20x DH-20A4P IDE dvdrw IDE
PSU:  Generic , Coolermaster EX 460W
Case: Orient Slim 27 Red
Spkr:  Altec Lansing CS21 Concert Series (2.1)

My current problem is the HDD Temperature now at 54°C... I'm considering to replace my case... my current case has poor ventilation.  ok b yung Thermaltake V3 @Php2300.00... or maybe experts can suggest a better case my budget limits me to Php2500.00... Help!  :-[
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: agmjr on Apr 27, 2010 at 12:09 PM
sir,
i am currently on the look out to build my htpc. it seems everyone is using emaxx as mobo. ok po ba siya as mobo? i am eyeing AMD790GX-XTRM.  ok na kaya ito for hd viewing using its on board video? lastly, saan po ba ito available na store? thanks much
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Apr 28, 2010 at 05:14 AM
Just an upgrade in my HTPC: (in red)
My current problem is the HDD Temperature now at 54°C... I'm considering to replace my case... my current case has poor ventilation.  ok b yung Thermaltake V3 @Php2300.00... or maybe experts can suggest a better case my budget limits me to Php2500.00... Help!  :-[

For my opinion....the problem is that you have 3 HDD in your HTPC.

Remember, internal HDD consume power, even  when you're not using them,and they generate heat. In the long run, as with my experience (Seagate 500G) the HDD just died (but that's a different story,1st batch of the 64mb 500HDD FW  Seagate problem) .....so you'll save more if you'll just buy an external HDD enclosure preferably one with esata connector.(from 450pesos at CDr-King to 650pesos Iomega with esata).

You'll save on money, electric power, and extend the longevity of your 500g HDD.  ;) ;D

Oh....just in case, you really want to proceed with your project...yes Thermaltake is good, in fat the price quoted seems very affordable....maybe Thermaltake now has it's own entry level versions.(that is if it's a genuine thermaltake)  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: stick on May 04, 2010 at 08:24 AM
^thanks for the reply, suggestion and recommendation... been waiting for it...  meron na pala HDD enclosure with esata!  wala pa kasi ako nakikita sa mga stores n malapit sa amin... saan meron nyang Iomega enclosure with esata?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on May 04, 2010 at 08:12 PM
Yup Yup HDD enclosures amounts ranges from 650pesos till 2.5K you can look for one at TipidPC, or at the Gilmore IT Center, mostly at the 2nd and 3rd Floor.

The cheapest and working is the CDR-King HDD Enclosure at 550pesos. here's the thread;http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=96275.30 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=96275.30)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: archaznable on Jun 01, 2010 at 09:56 PM
Here's my current dual-purpose HTPC I also use this to play games hehe so its like an all in one HTPC
wala na yung Intel setup ko before so I settle for an AMD rig para ma iba naman  ;D

Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1055t 2.86 Thuban (hexa-core 6 cores)
Motherboard: Asrock 890GX Extreme 3
Powersupply: Corsair HX650W Modular
CPU Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme
Memory: G.Skills RipJaws 2x2 GB 1600mhz CL9
Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry 2 Performance Touch Screen Fan Controller
Video Card: ATI HD 4890 (planning to upgrade to ATI HD 5870)

LCD #1: 22" Hans-G HDK21
LCD #2: 32" LG 32LH70YR

External HDD: 1TB Seagate Expansion GO
Internal HDD: 640GB WD

Casing: HAF 922 planning to downsize my Case to an HTPC standard that can actually fit in the huge
cooler and video card because I'm planning to upgrade it to an HD5870. Are there any HTPC case that
can fit the HD5870 because the width of the video card is actually 12 or 11.5" long.

Sounds: I've been using Optical or SPDIF out connected to my Pioneer A/V Receiver
Speakers: 5 channel minus the sub Todoroki  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dyerds on Jun 01, 2010 at 10:01 PM
Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1055t 2.86 Thuban (hexa-core 6 cores)
Motherboard: Asrock 890GX Extreme 3
Powersupply: Corsair HX650W Modular
CPU Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme
Memory: G.Skills RipJaws 2x2 GB 1600mhz CL9
Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry 2 Performance Touch Screen Fan Controller
Video Card: ATI HD 4890 (planning to upgrade to ATI HD 5870)


Magkano inabot ng rig nyo? TIA  :)

Congrats!

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Beefy on Jun 01, 2010 at 10:21 PM
Processor : Intel i5-750 Lynnfield
Motherboard : MSI P55m-GD41
CPU Cooler : Deep Cool Iceberg
Memory : G. Skill 2x2GB 1300mhz 7-7-7-21
Video Card : ATI HD5450
Optical Drive: LG DVD RW
Powersupply : HEC Raptor 500
Hard Drive : 1tb Western Digital WD10EARS
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate
Fan Controller : Deep Cool Rockman
Case Fans : 120mm x 4
Case : Thermaltake v3
NAS: DLink 323
Wifi Router : Belkin N+

Initially built this rig as HTPC but i find it complicated to play Hd files on my system. So now it's a download rig  8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: archaznable on Jun 01, 2010 at 11:06 PM
Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1055t 2.86 Thuban (hexa-core 6 cores)
Motherboard: Asrock 890GX Extreme 3
Powersupply: Corsair HX650W Modular
CPU Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme
Memory: G.Skills RipJaws 2x2 GB 1600mhz CL9
Fan Controller: NZXT Sentry 2 Performance Touch Screen Fan Controller
Video Card: ATI HD 4890 (planning to upgrade to ATI HD 5870)


Magkano inabot ng rig nyo? TIA  :)

Congrats!



hehe thanks mga 40k plus  :o butas ang wallet pero happy sa damage :D :D :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jun 02, 2010 at 08:48 AM
Guys I'm planning to upgrade my video card Inno3d 9600gt 1gb green ed. Ano po bang masusuggest nyong VC? I'm thinking of shifting to ATI instead of nvidia. Btw my procie is c2d e7500. Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: archaznable on Jun 02, 2010 at 08:21 PM
Guys I'm planning to upgrade my video card Inno3d 9600gt 1gb green ed. Ano po bang masusuggest nyong VC? I'm thinking of shifting to ATI instead of nvidia. Btw my procie is c2d e7500. Thanks

I suggest you go for ATI HD 5770 bang for the bucks ika nga he already have an HDMI (I think depende sa manufacturer ng card like Power Color, Sapphire, Palit etc... ) tapos extra features pa niya Eye Finity and DX11 san ka pa ... really worth it  ;D ;D ;D di ka mag sisisi ...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 03, 2010 at 12:34 PM
Here's my aging rig:

Processor : Intel Core2 Quad 9450
Motherboard : Gigabyte  GA-EP45-UD3R
CPU Cooler : Gigabyte G-Power Pro
Memory : Geil Ultra PC2-8500 4x2GB
Video Card : Nvidia Geforce 9800GTX+ (due for upgrade)
Optical Drive: LG DVD Multi / Lite-On Bluray
Powersupply : Gigabyte Odin 800W
Hard Drives : 3 x 500GB Seagate; 2 x 1 TB WD
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Cooling : Coolermaster Case Fans
Case : Gigabyte Setto
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Weng! on Jun 07, 2010 at 02:17 AM
what is the best combo my 12k can buy. i need the following items to upgrade my very old desktop.

1. processor (intel or amd)
2. motherboard (onboard graphics with hdmi)
3. RAM
4. 500gb internal hdd (7200 rpm)

the pc is mainly used for web surfing only and very occasional mkv watching.

thanks


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: archaznable on Jun 08, 2010 at 11:10 PM
Update ko yung setup ko hehe I've added the following to my setup

Video Card: Sapphire HD5850 Cypress Pro 1gb GDDR5 (pinalitan ko na yung HD4890 ko)

Antec Veris Multimedia Station to my setup here's the pic of my setup

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1271/4679108330_cdca63a70c.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4678476655_91e614e36b.jpg)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: et414 on Jun 09, 2010 at 12:14 AM
nice. where did you buy the veris and how much?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: archaznable on Jun 09, 2010 at 12:29 AM
nice. where did you buy the veris and how much?

thanks bought it sa one of the members sa tipidpc hehe  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Jul 12, 2010 at 09:27 PM
this is my first weekend with my new rig  ;D

Athlon 64 X2 5400
Emaxx 780G pro
4GB Geil DDR2
640GB WD Caviar Green
LG DVD w/ LS
Tower Casing (space issues)
Samsung 2233SW
Altec Lansing ATP3


running on XP  :)  

lapit na mag 1 year ang pc ko  ;D

upgrades for the past year,
1.  HD4770
2.  1TB Caviar green
3.  1.5TB Caviar green
4.  HEC winpower 550
5.  Lancool Tower Case
6.  Deepcool led fans 120mm (2)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: shadermodel on Jul 13, 2010 at 11:04 PM
here's mine:

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk1/packetshader/lc17.jpg)

case: silverstone lc17 (all fans removed)
proc: celeron 430 (undervolt 1v)
mobo: gigabyte ga-965p-s3
vid: sapphire hd5450 1gb
mem: team elite 2gb
hd: wd 500gb caviar green
psu: hec 550w
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: bribri on Aug 05, 2010 at 11:37 AM
my simple setup
TV: LG 37 LD460
Sounds: Altec Lansing MX5021
PC: Macbook C2D 2.4Ghz  4Gb ram 250HDD
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: s2kov on Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM
HTPC and gaming rig:

Acer M3400
Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
Hard Drive:  1TB w/ removable carrier for additional hard drive
Memory: 4GB (upgradable to 16GB)
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD5570 1GB
Optical Drive: DVD-Super Multi
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Casing: Tower type
Mouse: Acer Wireless
Keyboard:  Acer Wireless
PSU: 550W

Portable Hard Drive: 1.5TB Western Digital
Monitor: 42-inch Samsung Plasma TV
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rony on Aug 21, 2010 at 12:31 PM
HTPC and gaming rig:

Acer M3400
Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
Hard Drive:  1TB w/ removable carrier for additional hard drive
Memory: 4GB (upgradable to 16GB)
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD5570 1GB
Optical Drive: DVD-Super Multi
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Casing: Tower type
Mouse: Acer Wireless
Keyboard:  Acer Wireless
PSU: 550W

Portable Hard Drive: 1.5TB Western Digital
Monitor: 42-inch Samsung Plasma TV



Hmmm WALA yan! Atom PC lang kasi gamit ko.   :-[ :-[ :-[

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: IronMan247 on Aug 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Hmmm WALA yan! Atom PC lang kasi gamit ko.   :-[ :-[ :-[



OK lang yun sir. what's important for HTPC purposes is the video card.

This is my setup which I use for downloading and for HTPC purposes:

CPU: AMD Athlon II 240 (2.8GHz, under-volted)
HDD:  80GB, SATA
RAM: 4GB (DDR3 1333)
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 4200 (IGP)
Optical Drive: None
Software: XBMC with DSPlayer and MPC-HC on Windows 7
Casing: Atlas (Generic) HTPC case
KB and Mouse: Wireless
PSU: Gigabyte 450W
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: s2kov on Aug 21, 2010 at 02:57 PM
rony,

ok lng yun naka sun2a3 at quad ka nman eh! ;D



Hmmm WALA yan! Atom PC lang kasi gamit ko.   :-[ :-[ :-[


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jackryan on Aug 21, 2010 at 09:19 PM
anyone running Microsoft Media Center on Window 7 Ultimate?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 22, 2010 at 04:28 PM
anyone running Microsoft Media Center on Window 7 Ultimate?
using it for .avi files that does not play good in kmplayer  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Aug 22, 2010 at 06:04 PM
Update:

Processor : Intel Core2 Quad 9450
Motherboard : Gigabyte  GA-EP45-UD3R
CPU Cooler : Gigabyte G-Power Pro
Memory : Geil Ultra PC2-8500 4x2GB
Video Card : EVGA Geforce GTX480 Superclocked
Optical Drive: LG DVD Multi / Lite-On Bluray
Powersupply : Gigabyte Odin 800W
Hard Drives : 3 x 500GB Seagate; 2 x 2 TB Samsung
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Cooling : Coolermaster Case Fans
Case : Gigabyte Setto
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: archaznable on Aug 29, 2010 at 10:17 AM
HTPC and gaming rig:

Acer M3400
Processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
Hard Drive:  1TB w/ removable carrier for additional hard drive
Memory: 4GB (upgradable to 16GB)
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD5570 1GB
Optical Drive: DVD-Super Multi
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Casing: Tower type
Mouse: Acer Wireless
Keyboard:  Acer Wireless
PSU: 550W

Portable Hard Drive: 1.5TB Western Digital
Monitor: 42-inch Samsung Plasma TV


waw I thought na ako lang naka Thuban rig hehe congrats on your HTPC set up  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jackryan on Aug 31, 2010 at 02:32 PM
anyone running Microsoft Media Center on Window 7 Ultimate?

Looks like no one is using this... how about XBMC on Windows 7 Ultimate?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: shadermodel on Aug 31, 2010 at 09:50 PM
i'm using xbmc (win7 ultimate)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: archaznable on Sep 01, 2010 at 12:48 AM
Looks like no one is using this... how about XBMC on Windows 7 Ultimate?

I'm using one sulit na sulit works flawlessly on Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit  ;) and I also had Media Portal alternative to XBMC  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Sep 01, 2010 at 02:42 AM
I run Microsoft Media Center... sometimes. :)

I just find it more convenient to just play the files under typical media players.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jackryan on Sep 01, 2010 at 09:26 AM
I'm using one sulit na sulit works flawlessly on Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit  ;) and I also had Media Portal alternative to XBMC  ;)

Does your Win 7 Ultimate 64bit automatically boots up to the Windows Media Portal? If yes, how did you installed it?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: archaznable on Sep 02, 2010 at 04:09 AM
Does your Win 7 Ultimate 64bit automatically boots up to the Windows Media Portal? If yes, how did you installed it?

yup it automatically boots up to Media Portal I just install it in a typical way until I restart and then it goes through the media portal ...

here's the site on were I get the Media Portal http://www.team-mediaportal.com/  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: baneph on Sep 03, 2010 at 10:23 AM
there is a checkbox in the general configuration i think to autostart it during windows startup,

and configure windows 7 to auto login unless you just do hibernation or sleep. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jackryan on Sep 03, 2010 at 10:35 AM
for some reason on my Win7 Ultimate 32bit installation, I cannot find the steps to trigger the Windows Media Center option... would you know how to do it?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: amalvar on Sep 05, 2010 at 09:10 AM
this is my pc set up:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual
Core Processor 4600+
2.4 GHz, 2 GB RAM
NVIDIA GEFORCE 8200
Windows XP

most 1080p movies skip and stutter.. for vlc, kmplayer and xbmc..

help! what should i do?? do i need hardware upgrade??

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 05, 2010 at 02:52 PM
this is my pc set up:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual
Core Processor 4600+
2.4 GHz, 2 GB RAM
NVIDIA GEFORCE 8200
Windows XP

most 1080p movies skip and stutter.. for vlc, kmplayer and xbmc..

help! what should i do?? do i need hardware upgrade??

thanks!
not necessarily, have you tried using coreavc codec?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: amalvar on Sep 05, 2010 at 11:04 PM
not necessarily, have you tried using coreavc codec?

nope, pano to' with xbmc? :/

thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 10, 2010 at 11:28 AM
nope, pano to' with xbmc? :/

thanks.
not familiar in setting xbmc to use another codec bro eh.   :-\
media portal marunong ako  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: amalvar on Sep 10, 2010 at 11:57 AM
not familiar in setting xbmc to use another codec bro eh.   :-\
media portal marunong ako  ;D ;D

ok ba media portal?? :)

but i have to do full scraping again.. hahaha.. darn!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: baneph on Sep 20, 2010 at 01:14 PM
for some reason on my Win7 Ultimate 32bit installation, I cannot find the steps to trigger the Windows Media Center option... would you know how to do it?

sensya sa delay, forgot about this thread:

you mean pagstartup sa kanya?
type mo ehshell.exe

eto mga switches nya:
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/06/11/windows-media-center-shell-ehshellexe-command-line-switches-and-options/

startup directly (i think parehas lang sa win 7 halos to) not sure :D
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Start-Windows-Media-Center-automatically-when-Windows-starts

on mediaportal:

sumuko ako sa built in player nya. configured kmplayer plus coreavc to work as external player. (lagay mo dun sa remote mo (stop button = alt f4) para balik sya agad sa mediaportal :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 20, 2010 at 04:48 PM
ok ba media portal?? :)

but i have to do full scraping again.. hahaha.. darn!
ok para sakin ang media portal, kung gusto mo ng porma.  ako kasi default player ko lang is kmplayer  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: baneph on Sep 20, 2010 at 05:26 PM
mediaportal + streamedMP (me kasama nang series at movie scraper) = nice   ;D

tried xbmc, win MC, bumalik ako sa MP pa din :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Sep 24, 2010 at 05:41 PM
anyone uses a remote control for their mediaportal setup? pa-share naman ng set-up...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: baneph on Sep 28, 2010 at 03:34 PM
gamit ko m-play, pero walang vfd kasi wala stock that time :( IR receiver lang tsk. nasa 2k plus ko nakuha sa tipidpc. pero worth it, walang sablay, daming buttons na pwedeng ma assign.

http://www.vlsys.co.kr/English/product_mplay202plus.php
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Oct 04, 2010 at 04:33 PM
this is mine (copy-pasted from my gallery here http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,119823.msg1243716.html#msg1243716 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,119823.msg1243716.html#msg1243716))

This is my gaming rig (mostly for driving sims - NFS shift / undercover / prostreet) cum HD movie viewing deck (720p,1080p)

PC Specs

Proc: Intel Core i7 920
Mobo: Intel DX58SO
Cooling: Corsair Dominator Airflow Fan (Memory); Corsair H50 Water cooling kit (Processor), Fan Tweak for the IOH on the motherboard
Mems: 3GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 (Triple Channel 1GB)
SATA HDDs: 1TB OS/Games/Apps drive; 1TB HD/Std Def Movie drive ; 500GB MP3 / Backup Drive
SATA DVD: Plextor PX-880SA Writer/Reader with Lightscribe
Power: Corsair TX-850 850W 80Plus Power Supply
Graphics: Palit GTX470 1280MB/320bit GDDR5 Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort video card (with HDMI/DVI/VGA out)
Sound: Integrated Realtek 889A 7.1 channel codec with SPDIF optical and SPDIF internal digital out to Video card
Monitor: 24" Samsung 245B - 1920x1200 res, 5ms response on DVI
Speakers: Altec-Lansing ADA 305 (Dolby Pro-Logic) 2.1 on analog out
Chassis: CoolerMaster HAF 932 Full tower
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate

Pics:
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs471.snc3/25852_1383109852313_1068989207_1147199_4912759_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs469.snc3/25732_1379208954793_1068989207_1134587_8280215_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs207.ash2/47050_1530997789419_1068989207_1544059_6291713_n.jpg/img]

[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs191.ash2/45442_1530997669416_1068989207_1544058_7429024_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs367.snc4/45029_1530993669316_1068989207_1544057_885466_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs367.snc4/45029_1530993509312_1068989207_1544053_4218871_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs367.snc4/45029_1530993549313_1068989207_1544054_1800893_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Oct 04, 2010 at 09:48 PM
guys may nabasa ako noon.. hindi pwede pang PC ang plasma?
totoo po ba? im planning to buy plasma for htpc
thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rony on Oct 04, 2010 at 11:15 PM
this is mine (copy-pasted from my gallery here http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,119823.msg1243716.html#msg1243716 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,119823.msg1243716.html#msg1243716))


PC Specs

Proc: Intel Core i7 920
Mobo: Intel DX58SO




Halos High end sir eto ah. BTW local purchase mo yun plextor?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 05, 2010 at 01:56 AM
guys may nabasa ako noon.. hindi pwede pang PC ang plasma?
totoo po ba? im planning to buy plasma for htpc
thanks
pwede naman kung HTPC lang talaga.
sa resolution lang naman nagkakatalo eh.  :)
pero kung main pc mo sya, dapat 1080p na plasma ang gamitin mo.
ako kasi im using a 720p plasma for movie viewing lang via HTPC.
yun browsing and other computer application, sa laptop lang  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Oct 05, 2010 at 07:08 AM

Halos High end sir eto ah. BTW local purchase mo yun plextor?


when I got this unit last year it was high end, now its just run of the mill except for the video card LOL  :P

yep locally purchased yung plextor PX-880SA - PC Options in gilmore
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Oct 06, 2010 at 09:10 PM
guys may nabasa ako noon.. hindi pwede pang PC ang plasma?
totoo po ba? im planning to buy plasma for htpc
thanks

Pwede naman. May tendency lang magkaron ng image retention, lalo na if you use the PC for other purposes (like prolonged browsing, etc.).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 07, 2010 at 12:16 PM
(http://www.tommade.com/UploadFiles/Image/2010012521511178671969.jpg)


ASUS M4A88TD-M EVO/USB3/HDMI/SPdif/8-channel audio - micro ATX - AMD 880G/SB850  P4,100
AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0Ghz (2-yr wty) P2,800
1 Terabyte WD Caviar Green 64MB (2-yr wty) P3,400
2GB DDR3 1333 Kingston Single (2-yr wty) P1,800
Samsung 24X DVD-RW SATA with LS P1,100
TomMade Mini ATX/ITX Case w/ 500w psu P800

Total price:
P14,000

The part I really love the most is the mobo.  It has next gen SATA (6 Gbps), USB 3.0, HDMI, Spdif, HD Audio, and more. It's also 6-core compatible.

Rear I/O ports:
1 x DVI
1 x D-Sub
1 x HDMI
1 x S/PDIF Out (Optical)
6 USB
8-channel audio

Not bad for an Asus board under 5k.

(http://www.asus.com/websites/Global/products/dCFJVtaiZVk1PJCL/5OPNP4AUObRgubGw_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 07, 2010 at 12:40 PM
How's the WD Caviar Green 64MB as an OS HDD?  Tulugin yang HDD na yan kapag idle.   
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: baneph on Oct 09, 2010 at 08:49 AM
hehe up ko din question ni sir clondalkin kasi balak ko din sana subukan sana yan, albeit with a 2tb para di sayang hdd slot.

im on a 640gb green and wala prob pero sympre malayo sila in terms of structure and behavior (i think)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jnazareta on Oct 18, 2010 at 03:48 AM
(http://www.tommade.com/UploadFiles/Image/2010012521511178671969.jpg)


ASUS M4A88TD-M EVO/USB3/HDMI/SPdif/8-channel audio - micro ATX - AMD 880G/SB850  P4,100
AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0Ghz (2-yr wty) P2,800
1 Terabyte WD Caviar Green 64MB (2-yr wty) P3,400
2GB DDR3 1333 Kingston Single (2-yr wty) P1,800
Samsung 24X DVD-RW SATA with LS P1,100
TomMade Mini ATX/ITX Case w/ 500w psu P800

Total price:
P14,000

The part I really love the most is the mobo.  It has next gen SATA (6 Gbps), USB 3.0, HDMI, Spdif, HD Audio, and more. It's also 6-core compatible.

Rear I/O ports:
1 x DVI
1 x D-Sub
1 x HDMI
1 x S/PDIF Out (Optical)
6 USB
8-channel audio

Not bad for an Asus board under 5k.

(http://www.asus.com/websites/Global/products/dCFJVtaiZVk1PJCL/5OPNP4AUObRgubGw_500.jpg)


Sir ask ko lang p kung saan nyo binili yung mga parts na yan? balak ko rin po kasing mag Buo ng HTPC ko.. salamat po..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 18, 2010 at 04:53 AM
new house  :)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/IMG_0427.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wow_warlock on Oct 18, 2010 at 09:33 AM
Teaching an old dog (PC) new tricks.. :-)

Just wanted to share my HTPC setup.. I have on old PC lying around and decided to make it an HTPC.

- Sony Bravia LCD TV (40EX400)
- Pentium Dual Core E2180 (4 fans including cpu, Ave. Temp: 43C)
- Asus P5VD2-VM SE
- ATI X1150 512MB
- 2GB Memory
- Sata Drives
- Linksys Wireless G PCI Adapter
- Hauppauge 2250 (dual tuner)
- Rii Mini Remote

- Windows XP Pro SP3
- SageTV V7 (new beta version with Serenity theme plug-in installed)

Notes: Excellent Live TV recording, plays 720 and SD video files well, chokes a bit on 1080.. (Need to upgrade hehehe!)

SageTV V7 for frontend - recording, pausing live TV
(http://razorspells.com/public/htpc/Image1000.jpg)

SageTV V7 using Sage MyMovies plugin in conjunction with MyMovies Collection Management App (http://www.mymovies.dk)

Wall View
(http://razorspells.com/public/htpc/Image1006.jpg)

Coverflow View
(http://razorspells.com/public/htpc/Image1007.jpg)

Online Weather
(http://razorspells.com/public/htpc/Image1002.jpg)

A wide selection of Video Podcasts including YouTube
(http://razorspells.com/public/htpc/Image1003.jpg)

SageTV works perfectly with the Hauppauge Dual TV Tuner 2250
(http://razorspells.com/public/htpc/Image1000a.jpg)

No budget for htpc case, tower will do..
(http://razorspells.com/public/htpc/Image1004.jpg)

Remote Controls..
(http://razorspells.com/public/htpc/Image1005.jpg)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Oct 18, 2010 at 10:09 AM
I think you're using XBMC Sir.  What's the remote your using? How much does it cost?
Anong model po kaya ng cdr-king remote ctrl ang pwede sa XBMC?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wow_warlock on Oct 18, 2010 at 10:25 AM
I think you're using XBMC Sir.  What's the remote your using? How much does it cost?
Anong model po kaya ng cdr-king remote ctrl ang pwede sa XBMC?

- Nope I'm using SageTV V7 (new beta version) with a theme (Serenity) installed... SageTV handles live TV.
http://www.sagetv.com/betadownload.html

- On the remote it's called Rii Mini and I bought it online at TomTop ($44.99)
http://www.tomtop.com/24g-wireless-mini-keyboard-with-touchpad-black-c709b_p10332.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Oct 19, 2010 at 05:24 PM
@wow_warlock , wow nice set-up!

How did you set-up your remote control?

Plug & play ba?

I am using mediaportal and very satisfied with my set-up. But I have not completed to set-up a remote control.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 20, 2010 at 05:16 AM
Remote Controls..
(http://razorspells.com/public/htpc/Image1005.jpg)

This I like!! nice controllers bro  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wow_warlock on Oct 20, 2010 at 07:44 PM
@cHess, Thanks

- The qwerty keyboard is plug & play, it has a usb receiver and works independently even outside the OS (e.g you can use it for cmos setup)

- The Hauppauge remote is handled by SageTV but I opt not to enable it coz there are some buttons that are not supported. So I used EventGhost instead and all buttons are now enabled. 

@ninjababez, Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: blas_diaz on Oct 21, 2010 at 09:16 PM
anyone tried using toshiba 32RV600 as pc monitor? ok ba?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Oct 22, 2010 at 09:34 AM
Brader wow-warlock, may option ba na pixel shader ang SageTV?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wow_warlock on Oct 22, 2010 at 11:21 PM
Brader wow-warlock, may option ba na pixel shader ang SageTV?

Wengkapre, are you referring to DirectX? If so, SageTV supports it for rendering video playback...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Oct 23, 2010 at 09:52 AM

Sir ask ko lang p kung saan nyo binili yung mga parts na yan? balak ko rin po kasing mag Buo ng HTPC ko.. salamat po..

Bought the parts from PCHub in Gilmore QC (near St. Paul's).

How's the WD Caviar Green 64MB as an OS HDD?  Tulugin yang HDD na yan kapag idle.   

No problems yet according to the lady I built it for.  She shuts it down when not in use and hardly downloads on the net.  Note that she is not a power-user by any stretch of the imagination.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tokzz on Oct 25, 2010 at 04:26 PM
(http://www.tommade.com/UploadFiles/Image/2010012521511178671969.jpg)


ASUS M4A88TD-M EVO/USB3/HDMI/SPdif/8-channel audio - micro ATX - AMD 880G/SB850  P4,100
AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0Ghz (2-yr wty) P2,800
1 Terabyte WD Caviar Green 64MB (2-yr wty) P3,400
2GB DDR3 1333 Kingston Single (2-yr wty) P1,800
Samsung 24X DVD-RW SATA with LS P1,100
TomMade Mini ATX/ITX Case w/ 500w psu P800

Total price:
P14,000

The part I really love the most is the mobo.  It has next gen SATA (6 Gbps), USB 3.0, HDMI, Spdif, HD Audio, and more. It's also 6-core compatible.

Rear I/O ports:
1 x DVI
1 x D-Sub
1 x HDMI
1 x S/PDIF Out (Optical)
6 USB
8-channel audio

Not bad for an Asus board under 5k.

(http://www.asus.com/websites/Global/products/dCFJVtaiZVk1PJCL/5OPNP4AUObRgubGw_500.jpg)

sir, newbie ko sa computer/htpc setup. ask ko lang kung di na kelangan ng video card and fan? if needed, what do you suggest. gusto ko sana ng magbuo ng same setup pero mga 2TB yung hdd. everyday viewing of hi-def movies / tv series and surfing lang, di po ako gamer. hope you can help me identify what parts i need.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jnazareta on Oct 25, 2010 at 10:52 PM
Bought the parts from PCHub in Gilmore QC (near St. Paul's).

ASUS M4A88TD-M EVO/USB3/HDMI/SPdif/8-channel audio - micro ATX - AMD 880G/SB850  P4,100
Sir this mobo is now 6,250 sa gilmore.. mataas na masyado...ang nakita ko na P4,000 is Asus M4A88T-M AMD 880G.
ano po kayang magandang ibagay na casing dito..?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Philander on Oct 26, 2010 at 12:04 AM
sir, newbie ko sa computer/htpc setup. ask ko lang kung di na kelangan ng video card and fan? if needed, what do you suggest. gusto ko sana ng magbuo ng same setup pero mga 2TB yung hdd. everyday viewing of hi-def movies / tv series and surfing lang, di po ako gamer. hope you can help me identify what parts i need.

The Integrated graphics of those motherboards starting from 785 is a 4200 HD. This IGFX is capable to handle 1080p files w/o any hitch (of course processor plays a very impt role, but any current available dual core procies can do the job). Thus, you dont need to add discrete graphic cards if you are not into extensive 3D gaming.

My Motherboard suggestion is Asus m4A785D-M Pro. Though DDR2 only but all the connection needed for HTPC is there already, it has eSATA support as well. Php 3.5K.

I suggest Athlon II X3 440 3Ghz, this can be unlock to become 4-core Phenom II X4 B40 3Gz.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: pmsales on Nov 02, 2010 at 01:56 PM
hmm bakit ganun, 5.5k yung board na to sa PCHub nung naginquire ako.
(http://www.tommade.com/UploadFiles/Image/2010012521511178671969.jpg)


ASUS M4A88TD-M EVO/USB3/HDMI/SPdif/8-channel audio - micro ATX - AMD 880G/SB850  P4,100
AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0Ghz (2-yr wty) P2,800
1 Terabyte WD Caviar Green 64MB (2-yr wty) P3,400
2GB DDR3 1333 Kingston Single (2-yr wty) P1,800
Samsung 24X DVD-RW SATA with LS P1,100
TomMade Mini ATX/ITX Case w/ 500w psu P800

Total price:
P14,000

The part I really love the most is the mobo.  It has next gen SATA (6 Gbps), USB 3.0, HDMI, Spdif, HD Audio, and more. It's also 6-core compatible.

Rear I/O ports:
1 x DVI
1 x D-Sub
1 x HDMI
1 x S/PDIF Out (Optical)
6 USB
8-channel audio

Not bad for an Asus board under 5k.

(http://www.asus.com/websites/Global/products/dCFJVtaiZVk1PJCL/5OPNP4AUObRgubGw_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Nov 03, 2010 at 07:09 PM
Saan nyo po nabili ito? ASUS M4A88TD-M EVO/USB3/HDMI/SPdif/8-channel audio - micro ATX - AMD 880G/SB850  P4,100
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: chrisrhob on Nov 03, 2010 at 10:16 PM
Decided to upgrade my very old "2004-college-days" (http://tinyurl.com/2f9bt8b) PC case... you will be missed :'( My new HT/G PC set-up (AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.61GHz, MSI 790GX-G65, SAPPHIRE HD5970 2GB GDDR5, 4GB TRIDENT DDR3 Ram, 4TB Raid 0 WD, Corsair HX750w, Creative X-fi Titanium, Logitech Cordless Desktop Wave Pro)

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Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 03, 2010 at 10:25 PM
Decided to upgrade my very old "2004-college-days" (http://tinyurl.com/2f9bt8b) PC case... you will be missed :'( My new HT/G PC set-up (AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 3.61GHz, MSI 790GX-G65, SAPPHIRE HD5970 2GB GDDR5, 4GB TRIDENT DDR3 Ram, 4TB Raid 0 WD, Corsair HX750w, Creative X-fi Titanium, Logitech Cordless Desktop Wave Pro)

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4500/creampc201005b.jpg)
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(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7505/creampc201001b.jpg)
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(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6259/creampc201003b.jpg)
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Are you using any multimedia software for your rig?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kolokoys on Nov 03, 2010 at 11:33 PM
magkano sir ang total damage sa htpc/g na ito? tia!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: chrisrhob on Nov 03, 2010 at 11:55 PM
@nerveblocker I use embermedia on my pc to organize my movies on my Synology DS210+ NAS, other than that yung windows media center with klite that comes with W7 plays most of my library.

@kolokoys di ko na alam mga current prices ng parts ko since i upgrade pa tingi-tingi at hindi isang bagsakan ^_^ as you can see my heatsink is old na considering there are better heatsinks out there, same with my processor. Recent upgrade is the VGA which costs around 25k and of course the case, HAF-X 8.5k. I guess a budget of 50k is more than enough for an HTPC Gaming Rig.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 04, 2010 at 08:11 AM
@nerveblocker I use embermedia on my pc to organize my movies on my Synology DS210+ NAS, other than that yung windows media center with klite that comes with W7 plays most of my library.

Cool! I'm still in search for the best media center and I have tried XBMC, Mediaportal & Moovida so far. I also have a Synology server but with a single drive bay only.  I still keep my movies in external hard drives and use the Synology for important documents, music and pictures only. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/1.gif)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: chrisrhob on Nov 04, 2010 at 10:00 AM
^ma try nga mga na mention mo, im not satisfied with Windows Media Center kasi, thanks  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: XanderCage on Nov 04, 2010 at 11:02 PM
the best xbmc tapos mpc-hc as the external player. hehe.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Nov 05, 2010 at 08:34 AM
^
Sir paano iset-up ang MPC-HC as ext. player ng XBMC?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: XanderCage on Nov 07, 2010 at 12:57 AM
Quote
^
Sir paano iset-up ang MPC-HC as ext. player ng XBMC?

if 9.11 xbmc and above create an extra playercorefactory.xml file inside their "\UserData\" folder.

http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_use_an_External_Player_for_media_playback (http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_use_an_External_Player_for_media_playback)

Quote
<playercorefactory>
 <players>
   <player name="MPC-HC" type="ExternalPlayer" audio="false" video="true">
     <filename>C:\Program Files (x86)\Media Player Classic - Home Cinema\mpc-hc.exe</filename>
     <args>"{1}" /fullscreen /close</args>
     <hidexbmc>false</hidexbmc>
     <hideconsole>false</hideconsole>
     <warpcursor>none</warpcursor>
   </player>
 </players>
 <rules action="prepend">
   <rule filetypes="mkv|avi" player="MPC-HC"/>
 </rules>
</playercorefactory>


tapos eto gamit ko na code so xbmc will utilize mpc-hc when playing avi and mkv files.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2010 at 08:02 AM
if 9.11 xbmc and above create an extra playercorefactory.xml file inside their "\UserData\" folder.

http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_use_an_External_Player_for_media_playback (http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_use_an_External_Player_for_media_playback)

tapos eto gamit ko na code so xbmc will utilize mpc-hc when playing avi and mkv files.

nice share XanderCage  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 07, 2010 at 11:54 AM
nice share XanderCage  :)

Bro balik na sa XBMC (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: keema on Nov 07, 2010 at 02:06 PM
Mga sirs san po ba makikita ung pag install ng xbmc sa windows 7? mga links or kung pwedeng paturo dito..

salamat po
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Nov 08, 2010 at 11:03 AM
@xandercage

Thanks Brader ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 08, 2010 at 02:18 PM
Bro balik na sa XBMC (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
ayaw ko doc, walang auto-fill zoom eh  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Nov 08, 2010 at 05:14 PM
@xandercage
Ginawa ko 'to brader as instructed:
Quote
if 9.11 xbmc and above create an extra playercorefactory.xml file inside their "\UserData\" folder.
& used this code:
Quote
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
- <playercorefactory>
- <players>
- <player name="MPC-HC64" type="ExternalPlayer" audio="false" video="true">
  <filename>C:\Program Files\Media Player Classic - Home Cinema\mpc-hc64.exe</filename>
  <args>"{1}" /fullscreen /close</args>
  <hidexbmc>false</hidexbmc>
  <hideconsole>false</hideconsole>
  <warpcursor>none</warpcursor>
  </player>
  </players>
- <rules action="prepend">
  <rule filetypes="mp4|mkv|avi" player="MPC-HC64" />
  </rules>
  </playercorefactory>
I ran XBMC and played an avi movie, paused then opened the same movie w/ mpc-hc, napansin ko na magkaiba ng video quality, so I thought hindi nya ginamit yung mpc-hc as external player.
Ano kaya remedy? I'm using win 7 64bit, mpc-hc 64bit & xbmc 9.11
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: marvin13 on Nov 08, 2010 at 07:41 PM
Gud pm mga sir! share ko lng po HTPC ko, pero meron din po ako sa HT gallery ntin. Tnx and God Bless! :)
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff383/marvindmendoza/IMG_0407.jpg)
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff383/marvindmendoza/IMG_0406.jpg)
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff383/marvindmendoza/aurora570.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: XanderCage on Nov 08, 2010 at 10:55 PM
Quote
I ran XBMC and played an avi movie, paused then opened the same movie w/ mpc-hc, napansin ko na magkaiba ng video quality, so I thought hindi nya ginamit yung mpc-hc as external player.
Ano kaya remedy? I'm using win 7 64bit, mpc-hc 64bit & xbmc 9.11

talaga? hmm, in my experience pareho naman sila. btw when you opened the file in xbmc, did the mpc-hc logo come up before the file played? baka kasi yung internal pa rin yung nagpplay.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Nov 09, 2010 at 08:07 AM
talaga? hmm, in my experience pareho naman sila. btw when you opened the file in xbmc, did the mpc-hc logo come up before the file played? baka kasi yung internal pa rin yung nagpplay.

I did not come up before the file played brader...
Pwede kaya 'to, instead of externalplayer e defaultplayer?
Quote
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
- <playercorefactory>
- <players>
- <player name="MPC-HC64" type="DefaultPlayer" audio="false" video="true">
  <filename>C:\Program Files\Media Player Classic - Home Cinema\mpc-hc64.exe</filename>
  <args>"{1}" /fullscreen /close</args>
  <hidexbmc>false</hidexbmc>
  <hideconsole>false</hideconsole>
  <warpcursor>none</warpcursor>
  </player>
  </players>
- <rules action="prepend">
  <rule filetypes="mp4|mkv|avi" player="MPC-HC64" />
  </rules>
  </playercorefactory>
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: XanderCage on Nov 10, 2010 at 03:32 AM
Quote
I did not come up before the file played brader...
Pwede kaya 'to, instead of externalplayer e defaultplayer?

pwede mo try, but it might not work. required kasi yung "ExternalPlayer" which contains the path of the external player executable.

pwede mo try yung script na nilagay ko without specifying that your player is 64bit or try mo install yung 32bit na mpc-hc, dami kasi ako nabasa na incompatibilities ng 64bit mpc-hc.

tsaka yung xbmc pag ginamit yung mpc-hc, yung interface is mpc-hc talaga, lahat ng controls nya etc. parang ginawang explorer lang yung xbmc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Nov 10, 2010 at 10:10 AM
pwede mo try, but it might not work. required kasi yung "ExternalPlayer" which contains the path of the external player executable.

pwede mo try yung script na nilagay ko without specifying that your player is 64bit or try mo install yung 32bit na mpc-hc, dami kasi ako nabasa na incompatibilities ng 64bit mpc-hc.

tsaka yung xbmc pag ginamit yung mpc-hc, yung interface is mpc-hc talaga, lahat ng controls nya etc. parang ginawang explorer lang yung xbmc.

Thanks sa info brader xander...I'll try it again tonight. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Dec 11, 2010 at 01:55 AM
sa mga may gusto ng peripherals jan heto..

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Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 29, 2011 at 10:12 PM
guys can you provide me a latest HTPC setup na below 10k

CPU   ?? ?  ?
BOARD ung supported na lahat
CASING ? ?? ?  mini sana
SATA 1 TeraByte Samsung/Hitachi 2,395.00
Memory DDR3 2GB 1333Mhz Kingston 1,050.00
DVDRW 1K
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Jan 30, 2011 at 03:49 AM

If you need HD audio pass-through for  DTS-HD and Dolby True-HD, you might not make your budget. The least expensive card locally available that does this is ATI 5 series but the locally available version is already hd 5550 at almost 3k.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Jan 30, 2011 at 04:12 AM
For budget video cards - choose between GT 220 and HD 4650. Do not get gf 210. I use GT 240 ddr5 and I am satisfied with the gaming and video quality performance (although gt 240 is not silent / fanless).
 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 30, 2011 at 09:54 AM
guys.. im also planning to upgrade my videocard...
napansin ko new videocards.. naka hdmi.... does that mean dun nadin dumadaan ang audio? hehe
pasensya na sa newbie question.. my newest videocard does not have hdmi yet so.. im not quite sure..

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 30, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Sa ATI OO' sa NVIDIA halos lahat nang bag, pero hindi lahat, iyun' iba, kailangan mong ikabi pa sa SPDIF nang MoBo....pero iyun' ibang bago, Driver na lang.

Kung gusto mong kabit tapos tunog....mag ATI ka.....OO nga pala kailangan eh' may built in speakers ang LCD/LED Monitor mo, kung hindi....kabit green analog ka parin, tapos disable HDMI audio ka nalang.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Jan 30, 2011 at 02:53 PM
For the newer ATI and NVIDIA cards the simple answer is yes, the sound passes through HDMI (5.1 non HD bitstreaming passthrough). However, there are limits to true HD pass through, see my post above. But this may not apply to you as only very few would connect their HTPC to a receiver for true HD DD / DTS bitstreaming pass through. 5.1 usually is enough.

Also, what about sound quality? Best sound quality is done by a soundcard / DAC even if its just pass through if we are talking audiophile levels. Asus Xonar is the minimum soundcard audiophiles use and this is already the best available soundcard - this is just class d sound based on stereophile reviews when compared to skies the limit class A DAC.

Please note - even if your DAC is capable of HD processing, if you use a USB DAC, this is useless - the bandwidth of USB only allows for lower processing output (CD quality at 48) - what happens is the sound is upconverted from 48 - Tsk which is what you want to avoid for the best sound quality. Less processing, the better.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 30, 2011 at 03:31 PM
I think using Class A and Class D for describing quality might be misconstrued with amplifier topologies.

Please note - even if your DAC is capable of HD processing, if you use a USB DAC, this is useless - the bandwidth of USB only allows for lower processing output (CD quality at 48) - what happens is the sound is upconverted from 48 - Tsk which is what you want to avoid for the best sound quality. Less processing, the better.

There are USB DACs that can handle higher resolutions. In fact, a lot of S/PDIF interfaces utilize a USB connection.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Jan 30, 2011 at 04:50 PM
Gud pm mga sir! share ko lng po HTPC ko, pero meron din po ako sa HT gallery ntin. Tnx and God Bless! :)
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff383/marvindmendoza/IMG_0407.jpg)
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff383/marvindmendoza/IMG_0406.jpg)
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff383/marvindmendoza/aurora570.jpg)

Nice set-up!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Jan 31, 2011 at 12:36 AM
Pics:

Nice set-up :)

Yes - people might see the Class rating just for amps and speakers. Stereophile is (was?) the audiophile mag in its day (still?). The editors rated products from Class A to D, called the recommended components issue. The Class rating applies to all the recommended products from Amps to Speakers including DACS where applicable. Class A is the money no object best and D is the sort of minimum that an audiophile listens to.  Example - Wilson audio always get the Class A rating for all of their speakers (they should when these start above USD 10k).

DACS (Marketing...)

On the USB DAC, there may be DACs that handles 24 bit resolution but what they will get from the USB port itself from Mac and Windows is only 16 bit streaming as this is a limitation of the usb 1 audio specification (for usb 1 and usb 2 devices) - which means you only get upconverted 24 bit audio from the USB DAC (much like upscaling DVDs and saying this is HD - Hmmm). There is a usb 2 audio specification passed in 2009 but with a theoretical bandwidth of 24 bit, but doubtful if this works in the real world - most implement just the PCI-E route as the bandwidth there is secure even at true 24 bit 7.1 streaming where the real world streaming bandwidth of usb audio 2 is likely less specially when you are using USB for your extra HD (movies / torrent HD), keyboard, mouse and printer....

There is nothing wrong with 16 bit streaming. 16 bit streaming to a great DAC design can sound spectacular. So why say its 24 bit when its just upconverted (unless you read the fine print)?

For true reliable 24 bit audio, the PCI interface is used - the popular choice is the Asus Xonar (True DD / DTS HD bitstreaming -  I'd like to see that on even USB 3 coming our way soon). Stereophile favorite is the Asus Xonar for music cards (less than USD 200). You can use the 24 bit streams to your uber expensive DAC and get possibly better than analog sound. I myself am using 16 bit usb DAC and it sound great enough for me.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 31, 2011 at 09:01 AM
DACS (Marketing...)

On the USB DAC, there may be DACs that handles 24 bit resolution but what they will get from the USB port itself from Mac and Windows is only 16 bit streaming as this is a limitation of the usb 1 audio specification (for usb 1 and usb 2 devices) - which means you only get upconverted 24 bit audio from the USB DAC (much like upscaling DVDs and saying this is HD - Hmmm). There is a usb 2 audio specification passed in 2009 but with a theoretical bandwidth of 24 bit, but doubtful if this works in the real world - most implement just the PCI-E route as the bandwidth there is secure even at true 24 bit 7.1 streaming where the real world streaming bandwidth of usb audio 2 is likely less specially when you are using USB for your extra HD (movies / torrent HD), keyboard, mouse and printer....

There is nothing wrong with 16 bit streaming. 16 bit streaming to a great DAC design can sound spectacular. So why say its 24 bit when its just upconverted (unless you read the fine print)?

For true reliable 24 bit audio, the PCI interface is used - the popular choice is the Asus Xonar (True DD / DTS HD bitstreaming -  I'd like to see that on even USB 3 coming our way soon). Stereophile favorite is the Asus Xonar for music cards (less than USD 200). You can use the 24 bit streams to your uber expensive DAC and get possibly better than analog sound. I myself am using 16 bit usb DAC and it sound great enough for me.  :)

I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of devices that stream 24-bit via USB (they use USB 2.0 implementations for bandwidth reasons, and not for support reasons). Just because most lower-cost USB DACs do not support 24-bit does not mean that all of them don't.

Tha Naim DAC is a prime example of a high resolution USB DAC. There are other ones like the M2Tech Young, the Wavelength Audio Crimson, the Empirical Audio Spoiler USB, the Ayre Acoustics QB-9, and many others. There are also inexpensive ones from NuForce and some other smaller brands.

24-bit via USB is very available in the pro audio space with products like the Roland Cakewalk UA-25EX, the Benchmark DAC1 USB (and up), the EM-U 0404 USB, etc (including some downright cheap ones like the Tapco Link.USB).

You can also get a myriad of USB to SPDIF interfaces that do support streaming of 24-bit audio. These are becoming more and more popular.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Jan 31, 2011 at 09:36 PM
I'm glad people are really into DACs. This means more opportunity to listen to music.

I agree there are many 24 bit DACS specially in the high end.  But are these the 24 bit DACs we are hoping for when we look at the specs? For me, the 24 bit usb DACs does not deliver real 24 bit performance for me. Contradictions, right? Read below for those who want to get bored. I am just concerned that when people buy, and many people do, 24 bit USB DACS, they may expect this to have real 24 bit audiophile performance as well.

24 Bit over USB Problematic (But the market says we must have it!)

Let's go over to the 24 bit high end.

There are high end companies that say they are really delivering good 24 bit DACs including Ayre, Bel Canto and Puccini among others... These are not cheap DACs like the hi-face so no excuses here for mediocre performance.

Adaptive USB mode common in 24 bit high-end (but high-end sound?)

Not going into technical details, these products indeed attempt to deliver 24 bit audio by bypassing standard Windows kernel routines and requires their own drivers - the usual suspect is the TAS1020 chip (as Centrance already made the device driver for this). These use the adaptive USB mode - and requires using the PC as the master clock - this compromise results in 24 bit audio with the result of a substantial amount of jitter compared to 16 bit at best (some people say the trade off is not justified but we are talking of marketing which says we want 24 bit even if the 16 bit alternative is actually better).

Not really high end when you have high jitter rates. Just because you want to use USB when there is Firewire or PCI without this problem. And because there is no USB audio specification that delivers what is needed. Simply being a USB 2 device is not enough - its the USB architecture that is not ideal for 24 bit audio. Maybe another IEEE spec will come along and solve this problem with USB.

Salvation is USB asynchronous mode (if only someone can do this...)
The better solution is the asynchronous mode of USB, very / extremely difficult to implement - the plus side is jitter is reduced, negative is there may be no current effective implementation because these require extreme programming skills (bypassing windows altogether).

So why use USB 24 bit? Mainly due to hype - people want 24 bit so lets give it to them even with the problems. In high end professional recording scenarios, USB is not used. So marketing uses terms like 'professional' mobile sound recording solutions instead. I believe the rule of thumb is what sounds better, be it 16 Bit DACS or 24 bit DACS or vinyl is really better.

Go PCI / Vinyl instead?

PCI is tested to deliver 24 bit bit perfect HD signals on 8 channels without jitter problems! I am also impressed with vinyl - the actual wavelength of the grooves is smaller than lasers used in CD or HD media. Maybe that's why these sound better - these contain more sound information.

 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Jan 31, 2011 at 10:03 PM
My Set-up:

Well its actually a gaming computer (low end at that) but I use it for HT purposes as well (will post pictures later) in the bedroom. Excellent video quality. HTTPC usually gets 100 points in video quality with good video cards.

Orient Max Case with an Asus motherboard with an intel Core2 chip and 2GB mem. Nvidia GT 240 DDR5 video card (really nice video and almost the best gaming card without a power supply cable). 5.1 Channels through the internal soundcard and optical 5.1 output from Turtle Beach Micro 2 USB to a yamaha 5.1 speaker self powered system. Nice sound from the Micro 2 to headphones. LCD screen size is only 22 inches (gaming at 24 or higher screen size needs a really powerful video card! - too much power required - about 500 watts for the cards alone).

I also get to use the Micro 2 to my Laptop and Flac to my main system - Acurus A250 power amp (talked to the Italian Designer himself - pushes Class A for the first 20-25 watts!), Acurus Pl-11 pre, B&W CDM1NT speakers. Mid fi at best. Planning to get into low power and full range speakers: Choices for now are Fostex based speakers, neo planars DIY or hopefully the new maggies (but this is not low power, tsk).

Am I biased or are HTTPC really superior in video quality compared to NMT / media players like the popcorn
series? The ATI 5 series or the Nvidia GT 200 series up deliver blue ray quality videos, almost perfect video. From media players (NMT), I see some jaggies and colorations among others.

 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 31, 2011 at 10:59 PM

Not really high end when you have high jitter rates. Just because you want to use USB when there is Firewire or PCI without this problem. And because there is no USB audio specification that delivers what is needed. Simply being a USB 2 device is not enough - its the USB architecture that is not ideal for 24 bit audio. Maybe another IEEE spec will come along and solve this problem with USB.

Salvation is USB asynchronous mode (if only someone can do this...)
The better solution is the asynchronous mode of USB, very / extremely difficult to implement - the plus side is jitter is reduced, negative is there may be no current effective implementation because these require extreme programming skills (bypassing windows altogether).

Your data may be a bit outdated. Asynchronous mode operation has been around for years. It is in DAC products like the Wavelength Audio Crimson / Denominator/ Proton / Cosecant V3 / Brick v3, Ayre QB-9, dCS Debussy, Arcam rDAC, etc. It's also in cheaper products like the M2Tech Young and HRT Music Streamer II. There are USB to SPDIF interfaces that run in asynchronous mode, such as the dCS Puccini U-Clock, the M2Tech HiFace Evo, the ART Legato, the Halide Design S/PDIF Bridge, Wavelength WaveLink, and a few others.

Though even those that don't run in asynchronous mode are often reclocking type DACs anyway (passes through an ASRC), at least in mid-market products upward. This is designed to reduce the effect of jitter from the interface.

I prefer running an external DAC (whether via SPDIF, AES/EBU, USB or Firewire) over utilizing the analogue out of a sound board, simply because the innards of a computer casing isn't a very quiet place (dirty power supply, EMI, vibration, etc.). I'm wary that this might affect the analogue output side of the equation.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 31, 2011 at 11:09 PM
My Set-up:
Am I biased or are HTTPC really superior in video quality compared to NMT / media players like the popcorn
series? The ATI 5 series or the Nvidia GT 200 series up deliver blue ray quality videos, almost perfect video. From media players (NMT), I see some jaggies and colorations among others.

Aside from the absence of deep color support (which isn't really utilized at this point), I do think that HTPCs can provide a better picture than mass-market media players at the moment. PCs can run more robust software decoders, thanks to the processing muscle on tap. HDMI 1.4 3D support is now trickling to PCs as well.

It just happens that the dedicated players are more convenient to use (which is why I use both).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Feb 01, 2011 at 03:47 AM
Hi:

Video
I'm not familiar with the video chipsets of NMT. PS3 have great video and its a shrunk video chipset that can be used in NMT. My experience is video from Invidia / ATI can reach reference levels for video work with the right software.

Asynchronous mode (USB)
PC soundcards are not the best for analog sound. I believe though you can have the best digital output from ASUS xonar and use an external DAC for best sound. Asus xonar analog sound is OK, but barely audiophile level. But they do deliver bit perfect 7.1 HD digital audio.

I guess all the USB DACS you mentioned deliver good >> great >> spectacular sound. But note that none of these are really using usb asynchronous mode. There is currently no way for the PC OS to be a slave to an external clock which real asynchronous mode implies (notwithstanding any claims of audiophile companies unless there is an architectural overhaul of the standard OS model used by Win / Mac / Unix).

I believe all the products mentioned would have the PC clock still using its own clock and not a slave to the USB device. When the PC clock is a slave to the USB device clock then we can have real asynchronous mode. In the meantime, we already have a way to get out of this clock mess and deliver 24 bit audio without jitter theoretically. And that's through PCI. But I guess PCI is not sexy, how can you sell a PCI card for USD 2,500 or more?

NMT
Yes, cheaper! Portable! I plan to get one soon unless the new HDMI 1080P laptops arrive. Less than Php 10,000 for the better NMT.

If these arrive later this year (AMD Brazos platform) then I just might get a new Laptop (this would be in netbook price range and deliver HD video and medium game settings for games like MW Black Ops). Plus, there may be an option of 3D!

There are intel alternatives like sandy bridge but the video drivers are just like NMT.


 

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 01, 2011 at 10:38 AM
PS3 have great video and its a shrunk video chipset that can be used in NMT.

It's very possible. I think it's largely the thermal and cost envelope that prevents media player builders from doing something like this. A strong processor would need more work in terms of designing for thermal dissipation, and would cost more as a stronger power supply and more robust support parts (larger board traces, multi-phase VRMs, better filtering, etc.) would need to applied. A larger form factor may also result from this design choice.

I guess all the USB DACS you mentioned deliver good >> great >> spectacular sound. But note that none of these are really using usb asynchronous mode. There is currently no way for the PC OS to be a slave to an external clock which real asynchronous mode implies (notwithstanding any claims of audiophile companies unless there is an architectural overhaul of the standard OS model used by Win / Mac / Unix).

USB is a synchronous bus, as is PCI. Asynchronous USB devices decouple from the bus clock by buffering the data and using its own internal clock (as do PCI sound boards with their own oscillators). With proper implementation, there should be no difference (granted that the available bandwidth is sufficient for the stream).

I believe all the products mentioned would have the PC clock still using its own clock and not a slave to the USB device. When the PC clock is a slave to the USB device clock then we can have real asynchronous mode. In the meantime, we already have a way to get out of this clock mess and deliver 24 bit audio without jitter theoretically. And that's through PCI. But I guess PCI is not sexy, how can you sell a PCI card for USD 2,500 or more?

The CPU clock works on its own of course, based on its own clock generator (even a PCI board won't change that). You can insert wait states, but the CPU will still follow its own clock. This is the same with other components inside a computer that works synchronously. This is not just an OS issue, it's how the hardware works. Majority of parts within a PC work synchronously internally, including the PCI bus (except for some lines like the RST# signal). The PCI bus which may sometimes work asynchronously with the processor, still works synchronously within the bus. I don't see why this would be any different.

As for cost, there are expensive PCI-E and PCI64 cards, especially for high speed I/O. Mission-critical multichannel cacheing controllers and specialized solid state storage can cost a lot. Workstation graphics accelerators used to fetch that much as well.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Feb 01, 2011 at 10:39 AM
Any pics of your set-up sirs? Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Feb 03, 2011 at 04:26 PM
USB / PCI Clocks

The difficulty with USB is the clock timing (slower - almost just as fast as CD) than PCI, even slower than those required to get real HD. That's why people work around this physical limitation and its why this is not an issue with PCI - the bandwidth is almost unlimited. But USB appears to be easy to use with PC / Laptop. With PCI - jitter is less of a problem and its cheaper too! No need to go for really expensive PCI cards when less than USD 200 gives you exactly the same bit streams.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Feb 03, 2011 at 06:48 PM
@xandercage

Thanks brader for the assistance, napagana ko na din sa wakas ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Feb 03, 2011 at 07:22 PM
Parang minority HTTPC na Laptop. Think madami nang available Laptops with HDMI and discrete graphics cards (unfortunately locally medyo mahal pa din). With USB HD in the TB range, HTTPC laptops are becoming a nice alternative...Guess people prefer NMT for mobility.

 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 03, 2011 at 08:06 PM
share ko lang

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1999/img1779vm.jpg)

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1861/img1709cf.jpg)

CPU: Intel Core i7 860
MOTHERBOARD: Asus Maximus III Formula
VIDEOCARD: Sapphire HD5850 1GB rev. 2
DEDICATED PHYSX CARD: Palit GT220 1GB
MEMORY: Corsair 8gb Dominator CL8 DDR3
HARDISK: OCZ 60GB Vertx 2 SSD, 2 WDC Caviar Black 640GB in RAID 0, Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB, Seagate Barracuda 320GB, Seagate Barracuda 250GB, Seagate Barracuda 120GB
TV CARD: KWorld PVR7131
CPU HEATSINK: Thermalright Venomous X with push and pull 2 Cooler Master Excalibur Fan
THERMAL PASTE: Noctua NT-H1
CASING: Cooler Master Storm Sniper Black Edition
CASE FAN: Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000RPM, Yate Loon D14SH-12 140mm, Cooler Master PWM Fan, Cooler Master 120mm Fan, 3 Cooler Master 200mm LED Fan
PSU: Corsair HX650 Modular
AVR: SIEG AVR Servo 5000w
UPS: APC Back-UPS RS 1100VA
SURGE PROTECTOR: Belkin G-Series 8, Panther 6 socket
LINE CONDITIONER: Bada Line Conditioner
DVD DRIVE: Asus DRW-24B1LT
ROUTER: Lynksys WRT54GH
MONITOR: LG 32LH35 32" LCDTV Full HD, Shuttle XP17 Lite 17"
SPEAKERS: Logitech Z640 5.1 + 8" Sub and custom Sub box tuned to 20Hz, Altec Lansing BXR1220 2.0
MOUSE: Cooler Master Storm Sentinel Advance
MOUSEPAD: Razer eXactMat
KEYBOARD: Logitech G15 v1
GAMEPAD: Logitech Dual Action, Xbox 360 wireless
HEADSET: Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headset, Logitech Precision PC Gaming Headset
HDMI CABLE: Monster Cable M2000 HDTV HDMI Cable
PERIPHERALS: Antec Veris Multimedia Premier, Shuttle PC22 Int. Card Reader, NZXT IU01 Internal USB Hub,Gelid PWM Y Cable, MDPC Sleeve kit
MEDIA PLAYER: XBMC, PowerDVD 10 Ultra

To buy
Onkyo TX-NR808                           
Logitech Harmony 650                   
Ezra FS                                 
Ezra Center                             
Genesis FS                             
macdon Halimaw Sub                       
AMP4V2
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Feb 03, 2011 at 09:36 PM
Ayos bro.  Gaming rig.... ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 03, 2011 at 10:37 PM
oo pero magcoconvert nako papuntang HT rig  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 03, 2011 at 10:41 PM
USB / PCI Clocks

The difficulty with USB is the clock timing (slower - almost just as fast as CD) than PCI, even slower than those required to get real HD. That's why people work around this physical limitation and its why this is not an issue with PCI - the bandwidth is almost unlimited. But USB appears to be easy to use with PC / Laptop. With PCI - jitter is less of a problem and its cheaper too! No need to go for really expensive PCI cards when less than USD 200 gives you exactly the same bit streams.



Sorry, but that is not true. You might be confusing clock rate with data rate. USB clock rate is higher, since it's a serialized interface. PCI often runs a lower clock, but has a larger bandwidth because of its parallel architecture.

USB 2.0's clock source typically runs at 48MHz, when typical PCI stands at 33MHz (or it can be half these values then doubled, or twice these values then halved, etc. depending on the implementation). This is irrelevant though, since most good PC s/pdif interfaces would have an independent clock, whether it's connected via USB or PCI.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 05, 2011 at 08:18 PM
eto bagong board/cpu

Asus E35M1-M Pro AMD Fusion Micro-ATX

pang htpc 16000yen daw - 8k sana paglaunch sa pinas
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 07, 2011 at 03:00 AM
eto bagong board/cpu

Asus E35M1-M Pro AMD Fusion Micro-ATX

pang htpc 16000yen daw - 8k sana paglaunch sa pinas


Hopefully less. :) The Zacate APU isn't very powerful, but it's faster than the Dual Core Atoms with many tasks (especially with video and 3D oriented ones). It also supports HDMI 1.3 / DTS-HD and TrueHD streaming, and can be passively cooled.

Mini-ITX version with robust passive cooling:
(http://computer-supports.com/wp-content/uploads/Asus-E35M1-I-Deluxe.jpg)

There are notebooks from Acer/e-Machines running this very same APU. They are quite affordable, and might work as a budget HTPC notebook (it's likely gonna cost less than building an itx-based equivalent).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Feb 07, 2011 at 05:13 AM
Look at this - only USD 450 ! Its the zecate (not the low powered ontario of the acer 522 released locally). Great for mobile HTPC (no dropped frames for 1080p).

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/01/paviliondm112.jpg)

See link below:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/17/hp-pavilion-dm1z-with-amd-fusion-review/

Hopefully less than Php 20k when it gets here. Really nice sub-notebook, 6.5 real battery life and HDMI.

Already available sa US so for those who have this, please post comments (HTPC use).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Feb 07, 2011 at 05:17 AM
Horrors of making a DAC:

http://www.eetimes.com/design/signal-processing-dsp/4027593/PRODUCT-HOW-TO--Using-the-Blackfin-Processor-for-Bus-Powered-USB-2-0-Compliant-Designs

I guess its really, audition, audition , audition like any audio items we crave for.  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:24 AM
Horrors of making a DAC:

http://www.eetimes.com/design/signal-processing-dsp/4027593/PRODUCT-HOW-TO--Using-the-Blackfin-Processor-for-Bus-Powered-USB-2-0-Compliant-Designs

I guess its really, audition, audition , audition like any audio items we crave for.  :D

This is the first Blackfin DSP device that I've seen being powered by the USB port. They usually have a separate power source (at least the older versions were), because of the higher electrical demands. I guess they were able to refine it enough to be bus-powered with this redesign.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:31 AM
Acer (under the e-Machines brand) is selling the eMD644 utilizing the Zacate E-350 for a decent price. I've seen it at 19.5k in some shops, with 2GB RAM (expandable to 4GB) and 500GB HDD plus the usual notebook features.

It does look pretty plain, but I don't think a lot of people would complain at this price (since local notebook prices are generally higher than US street prices).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Feb 07, 2011 at 10:31 AM
Thanks for the info  :D

Issue ko lang sa e-machines is that they look uninspiring at best, hehehe. But the zecate rocks for the price. Really looking forward to the HP kasi premium build, you can use it when you are beside someone with an ibook sa kapihan, hahaha.

The acer aspire 522 amd chip drops frames when handling 1080p for those looking into HTPC use. I think the MSI zecate amd e-350 motherboard available sa US for about USD 100 with the amd cpu and integrated outputs including HDMI.

We are poorer than the US and yet its more expensive locally with limited warranty! If they even make it available locally.  ???

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: -lee- on Feb 07, 2011 at 12:42 PM
ano po ok na setting ng xmbc tsaka catalyst control center? my vcard is ati hd4650, 6gb mem, i5 processor.. tv po is sony 40bx400..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Feb 07, 2011 at 12:51 PM
ano po ok na setting ng xmbc tsaka catalyst control center? my vcard is ati hd4650, 6gb mem, i5 processor.. tv po is sony 40bx400..

what do you mean Brader?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: -lee- on Feb 07, 2011 at 12:57 PM
what do you mean Brader?
i mean, ano po dapat settings sa xmbc tsaka ati control catalyst center. post ko sana current settings ko pero may error pag nagpost ng mahabang message..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 07, 2011 at 03:34 PM
mSI U230 ?
ok bang HTPC?
Connect ko nalang sa TV via HDMI?
Any input for the said unit kesa sa e-machines… medyo hindi ko gusto ung emachines..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jnazareta on Feb 12, 2011 at 07:44 PM
Mga Gurus sa HTPC... penge naman po ng SPECS ng PC na gagamitin sa HTPC. budget is 15K lang po, salamat po..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 12, 2011 at 08:11 PM
Quote
penge naman po ng SPECS ng PC na gagamitin sa HTPC. budget is 15K lang po, salamat po..

Core i3 530 2.93GHZ   
Foxconn H55M           
Geil DDR3 1333mhz 2gb   
EVGA GT430 1024mb
2TB hard disk       
+
psu and casing

pasok sa budget mo without monitor and speakers
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jnazareta on Feb 12, 2011 at 09:40 PM
Sir wildfire thanks po for the reply.. additional question po...di po ba dapat ay AMD chipset? I need a mobo with HDMI port and a COAX or Optical out po for the AVR.. salamat po..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 12, 2011 at 10:19 PM
medyo mahal ung board na may built in hdmi dahil sa on board video niya
mas ok kung mag GT430 na video card ka para di na sya aagaw ng utilization sa cpu and may hdmi sya.
ok din amd pero the question is which one ang tatapat sa core i3 with the same price range
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jnazareta on Feb 12, 2011 at 11:19 PM
OK sir Wildfire thanks po ulit.. ask ko lang po sir kung pano ang audio out using this video card? I've read before na meron pang wire na i-coconnect from the Mobo going to the video card para sa processing ng sound if HDMI and connection po.. sana po maclarify nyo thanks po..additional question.. sir saan po meron nitong Video card na ito?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 13, 2011 at 08:39 AM
Quote
OK sir Wildfire thanks po ulit.. ask ko lang po sir kung pano ang audio out using this video card? I've read before na meron pang wire na i-coconnect from the Mobo going to the video card para sa processing ng sound if HDMI and connection po.. sana po maclarify nyo thanks po..additional question.. sir saan po meron nitong Video card na ito?

ung audio thru videocard hdmi sa settings lang sa windows un, when you install the driver for the videocard kasama na un then configure it. HDMI can pass video and audio at the same time. Enjoy your build  ;)

Sa PCHub (4128481) sa gilmore or Questlogic (09155389302) sa parañaque
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jnazareta on Feb 13, 2011 at 07:39 PM
Sir wildfire, Just got a new HTPC... inabot ng 16 plus....pero OK naman.... thanks po.. and thaanks to pinoydvd...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 13, 2011 at 08:15 PM
Quote
Sir wildfire, Just got a new HTPC... inabot ng 16 plus....pero OK naman.... thanks po.. and thaanks to pinoydvd...

congrats  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 14, 2011 at 10:48 AM
I've read before na meron pang wire na i-coconnect from the Mobo going to the video card para sa processing ng sound if HDMI and connection po..
Sa mga lumang video card lang to, mga Geforce 9 series. Mga bago ngayon mostly may onboard audio output na. :)

Congrats sa new HTPC. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Feb 20, 2011 at 07:38 PM
mga guru's please build me a bang for the buck HTPC.
thanks!
at kung ok lang pa-build na rin ng super budgeted HTPC that can play 1080p flawlessly.
thanks again!
last question..
pros and cons ng intel base at amd base pagdating sa htpc.
thanks again and again.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 20, 2011 at 09:44 PM
Quote
mga guru's please build me a bang for the buck HTPC.
thanks!
at kung ok lang pa-build na rin ng super budgeted HTPC that can play 1080p flawlessly.
thanks again!

Quote
Core i3 530 2.93GHZ   
Foxconn H55M           
Geil DDR3 1333mhz 2gb   
EVGA GT430 1024mb
2TB hard disk       
+
psu and casing
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunslinger on Feb 21, 2011 at 05:49 AM
If you were to choose among the netbooks listed below to serve as HTPC, which one would be best in terms of bang for the buck based on features:

1. Acer Aspire 522 - 17K
2. MSI Wind U230 - 24K
3. Asus 1215T - 22K
4. Sony Vaio YB - 30K

All have HDMI out. Wifey wants sony for its looks and its really feature packed but im balking a bit because of its price. If not these netbooks, are there any other options? We don't want to go beyond 12 inches for portability.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 21, 2011 at 06:26 AM
If you were to choose among the netbooks listed below to serve as HTPC, which one would be best in terms of bang for the buck based on features:

1. Acer Aspire 522 - 17K
2. MSI Wind U230 - 24K
3. Asus 1215T - 22K
4. Sony Vaio YB - 30K

All have HDMI out. Wifey wants sony for its looks and its really feature packed but im balking a bit because of its price. If not these netbooks, are there any other options? We don't want to go beyond 12 inches for portability.

Thanks.
hi bro, not that these netbooks are bad, but if youre to use it as an HTPC naman why not use a full intel I3 processor with ATi vga.  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunslinger on Feb 21, 2011 at 06:38 AM
Wifey wants a netbook and I'm trying to explore if I can get HTPC to go with it to consolidate my expenses. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 21, 2011 at 06:50 AM
Wifey wants a netbook and I'm trying to explore if I can get HTPC to go with it to consolidate my expenses. ;D
ygpm
it will help a lot in deciding.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunslinger on Feb 21, 2011 at 07:34 AM
ygpm
it will help a lot in deciding.  ;)
Thanks bro. Its been a while since I dabbled into computers. My 2 laptops are all vintage (AMD Turion and Intel Core2Duo)and I'm trying to catch up that is why I'm asking you guys since you are more current and have actual experience with the newer tech.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 21, 2011 at 07:45 AM
Thanks bro. Its been a while since I dabbled into computers. My 2 laptops are all vintage (AMD Turion and Intel Core2Duo)and I'm trying to catch up that is why I'm asking you guys since you are more current and have actual experience with the newer tech.
funny you called them vintage.  i just got a core2duo laptop for 37k @ villman it was a high end series late 2009 early 2010.  :D
ganda ng itsura, very classy and it comes with a free external dvdwriter, pang araw araw na bitbitan talaga (very lightweight for a 13".  ;D

too bad i bought it for someone else, not me.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Feb 22, 2011 at 08:01 AM
For a laptop or mobile HTPC, mas maganda siguro kung yung mga core i3 na.  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Feb 23, 2011 at 11:39 AM
guys pwede na ba for HTPC or may suggestion pa kayo?
specs-
amd x2 2.9hz or amd x3 3ghz
asus M4A785D-m pro
corsair 2g ddr3
2gig hitachi HDD

damage-
12,000php
need specs that can play 1080p perfectly with the least money i can dispense.
thanks!specialy to xrampage
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: larokulit on Feb 23, 2011 at 07:40 PM
If you were to choose among the netbooks listed below to serve as HTPC, which one would be best in terms of bang for the buck based on features:

1. Acer Aspire 522 - 17K
2. MSI Wind U230 - 24K
3. Asus 1215T - 22K
4. Sony Vaio YB - 30K

All have HDMI out. Wifey wants sony for its looks and its really feature packed but im balking a bit because of its price. If not these netbooks, are there any other options? We don't want to go beyond 12 inches for portability.

Thanks.

Last January, I acquired MSI U230x (over Asus 1215t due to better specs and deal) for a friend and was able to test playback of 720p and 1080p videos. 720p is passable but 1080p is very slow. The specs says it has hardware decoder for HD playback, but it was not fast enough.

My mom's 1-year old ASUS PDC ultraportable has better FPS for 1080p playback than this one.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 25, 2011 at 10:05 AM
Last January, I acquired MSI U230x (over Asus 1215t due to better specs and deal) for a friend and was able to test playback of 720p and 1080p videos. 720p is passable but 1080p is very slow. The specs says it has hardware decoder for HD playback, but it was not fast enough.

My mom's 1-year old ASUS PDC ultraportable has better FPS for 1080p playback than this one.
bro gunslinger, remember my PM?  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 25, 2011 at 11:34 PM
My simple beginner HTPC

Mobo: ASUS P5G41-M LE
Procie: Intel Core 2 Duo e7500 2.93GHz with 20% turbo boost @ 3.52GHz
RAM: 4GB
Hard disk: 320GB
Sound Card: PCI-e Creative Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio 5.1 output
Video Card: ATI HD5450
Casing: CM 690

Speakers: Logitech Z5300 5.1 THX
Monitor: AVision 42AL69 with 120Hz Tru-motion
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 26, 2011 at 04:15 PM
i just purchase u230light x2 l335 last week sa pc corner...19.5k budled with external dvrw
di ko pa natry to watch full HD vd... ung mga bdrip ayos pagkinabit sa lcd tv... weak lang ung battery na 3 cell kaya connected sa power cable...

kaya lang gustong gamitin ng asawa ko ung laptop para sa plants vs zombies lintek.. hahahaha

guys im planning to built a htpc by next month please provide me a setup...less power consumption ang habol ko

ang another thing much better ba at mura na bumili ng mobo na may built in vid card with hdmi or seperate??

ang habol ko lang no drop frames pag full HD... and less power ayaw ko ng mga quadcore lakas sa kuryente.

please please please

MOBO?
VC?
PROC???????
(no drop frames )

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 26, 2011 at 05:06 PM
ang another thing much better ba at mura na bumili ng mobo na may built in vid card with hdmi or seperate??
Integrated Video is more than sufficient for this purpose, as long as you choose the motherboard/chipset wisely (you should choose an HT-oriented one).

Quote
ang habol ko lang no drop frames pag full HD... and less power ayaw ko ng mga quadcore lakas sa kuryente.
A system might not drop frames with most current formats, but there is no assurance that it'd do well with future formats.

Have you considered an ITX build? Something i3-based might be worthwhile. :) If you're really into low power consumption, then the AMD Fusion architecture might appeal to you.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 26, 2011 at 06:19 PM
Integrated Video is more than sufficient for this purpose, as long as you choose the motherboard/chipset wisely (you should choose an HT-oriented one).
A system might not drop frames with most current formats, but there is no assurance that it'd do well with future formats.

Have you considered an ITX build? Something i3-based might be worthwhile. :) If you're really into low power consumption, then the AMD Fusion architecture might appeal to you.
thank you for your lquick response...
gusto ko talaga ung super liit na casing...
any suggestion for mobo with bulit in vc that support hd playback
i will check amd fushion achitecture...
really tight budget this time...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jnazareta on Feb 26, 2011 at 07:08 PM
@raider125jeigh  or should I say Derek....try MSI 785-E53 AMD785 ddr3/HD4200 or Asus M4A785D-M PRO meron sa PC express bro.. and inabot ng buo ko is 13.6K lang.

Heres the specs.
MSI 785-E53 AMD785 ddr3/HD4200               - 3.800
Athlon II X3 440 (3.0G) 2mb AM3                 - 3540
Kingston 2GB 1333 ddr3                              - 1200
500gb Hitachi SATA                                   - 1770
Transformer casing                                    - 1600
Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse MK250 - 1200
AVR                                                         - 370
CDRking HDMI cable                                    - 200
                                                  ==================
TOTAL                                                     13680

Check mo bro.. SO far OK naman.. you can also change the housing meron dun tig 1200 lang.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 27, 2011 at 08:22 PM
Mga gurus,
Just want to ask for your suggestions kung anong netbook (around 10-12" screen) ang capable magplay smoothly ng HD movies 1080p? Habol ko kasi yung ultraportable na kahit nakahiga makakanood ka, hehe.
Thanks!  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 27, 2011 at 11:38 PM
@raider125jeigh  or should I say Derek....try MSI 785-E53 AMD785 ddr3/HD4200 or Asus M4A785D-M PRO meron sa PC express bro.. and inabot ng buo ko is 13.6K lang.

Heres the specs.
MSI 785-E53 AMD785 ddr3/HD4200               - 3.800
Athlon II X3 440 (3.0G) 2mb AM3                 - 3540
Kingston 2GB 1333 ddr3                              - 1200
500gb Hitachi SATA                                   - 1770
Transformer casing                                    - 1600
Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse MK250 - 1200
AVR                                                         - 370
CDRking HDMI cable                                    - 200
                                                  ==================
TOTAL                                                     13680

Check mo bro.. SO far OK naman.. you can also change the housing meron dun tig 1200 lang.



ayw ko nyan lakas sa kuryente hmp!!

Louie_18
TRY KO MSI U230 OR UNG ASUS NA MAY HDMI PORT
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 28, 2011 at 04:54 AM
Just want to ask for your suggestions kung anong netbook (around 10-12" screen) ang capable magplay smoothly ng HD movies 1080p? Habol ko kasi yung ultraportable na kahit nakahiga makakanood ka, hehe.
Thanks!  ;)

eMachines eMD644 or Lenovo G465 pwede din kung budget HTPC notebook, pero 14" screen sila.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 28, 2011 at 07:36 AM
Thanks sir raider and stagea  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: popejerico on Mar 02, 2011 at 08:25 AM
Mga gurus,
Just want to ask for your suggestions kung anong netbook (around 10-12" screen) ang capable magplay smoothly ng HD movies 1080p? Habol ko kasi yung ultraportable na kahit nakahiga makakanood ka, hehe.
Thanks!  ;)

Bro 2 cents po... Have you tried comparing the video playback quality between a fullhd movie and an SD movie in a netbook na 10-12"? Right now I have a netbook (atom 10"/1.6/1gbram) that I use for browsing and downloading HD contents. It barely plays a 1080p video lagi pang nagkacrash. However, I was able to test it once for a couple of sec before it crashed and it's hard to tell the difference with an SD video kasi sobrang liit ng screen. And it's not only raw cpu processing power to play the video smoothly kundi yung video card and the lcd display itself ang mag papalabas ng buong quality ng isang HD movie. Isa pang issue is yung internal HDD space. Mine is only 40gb so after ko magdownload ng movie diretso agad sa external drive ko yung file. Issue din un kasi lalong malabong magplay ng fullhd kung papadaainin mo sya sa external drive. Hirap yun. Kaya yung HDs ko diretso na sa HTPC or sa media player ko pinapanood.

So my point being, if you want an ultraportalble hd player, I will not recommend a netbook unless someone can protest and prove otherwise. Pero kung yun ang trip mo talaga gawin, suportahan kita lakay. :-)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 02, 2011 at 10:13 AM
hirap talaga atom sa hd playing ung u230 kaya lang kahit may graphic card na din
pero kung tight budget talaga to have pc and mediaplayer at the same time then netbook
or buo nalang htpc
measy/kaiboer/xtreamer kung nmt naman
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 03, 2011 at 01:09 PM
Sirs I have a mkv movie and according to mediainfo software, these are the details...

Size: 8.42GB
Overall bit rate: 11.4 mbps

Video Stream: 9287Kbps, 1920*816 at 23.976 fps, AVC([email protected])(CABAC/5 Ref Frames)

First Audio Stream: 640kbps, 48.0Hz, 16 bits, 6 channel, AC-3
Secong Audio Stream: 1510 Kbps, 48.0Hz, 24 bits, 6 channel, DTS

Can my U230 play this file smoothly using KMPlayer?

Thanks

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: paolorenzo on Mar 03, 2011 at 02:52 PM
Sirs I have a mkv movie and according to mediainfo software, these are the details...

Size: 8.42GB
Overall bit rate: 11.4 mbps

Video Stream: 9287Kbps, 1920*816 at 23.976 fps, AVC([email protected])(CABAC/5 Ref Frames)

First Audio Stream: 640kbps, 48.0Hz, 16 bits, 6 channel, AC-3
Secong Audio Stream: 1510 Kbps, 48.0Hz, 24 bits, 6 channel, DTS

Can my U230 play this file smoothly using KMPlayer?

Thanks

Sir Louie, there's only one way to find out...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 03, 2011 at 03:41 PM
Hehe  ;D, I know Sir Paolo that I should try it out but what I mean was, is the U230 capable of playing such file through KMPlayer because I tried it with VLC and KMPlayer pero very choppy. Maybe may tweaks na kailangang gawin sa U230 or KMPlayer para maging smooth ang playback. Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Mar 04, 2011 at 10:54 AM
You can try it with KMPlayer + Coreavc COMBO.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 04, 2011 at 12:32 PM
Thanks Sir chess  :)

Does this combo work for you?
Do I need to tweak KMplayer?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Mar 04, 2011 at 03:08 PM
Thanks Sir chess  :)

Does this combo work for you?
Do I need to tweak KMplayer?

Bro, my laptop is T2060 dual core @1.6Ghz with 1GB ram only and it plays 1080p.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: plapoy on Mar 08, 2011 at 05:43 PM
Mga sir, newbie question lang po.. advisable po ba gamitin yung laptop for htpc?.. or dapat desktop talaga?.. balak ko po kasi gamitin yung laptop ko para hindi nako magbubuo ng bagong desktop..

Eto po spec ng laptop ko.. Dell Inspiron 15R

Processor: Intel® CoreTM i5 480M Processor (2.66GHz/3MB cache)
OS          : Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Memory   : 4GB (2 X 2 GB) 2 DIMM DDR3 1333Mhz
Chipset    : Mobile Intel® 5 Series Express Chipset (HM57
GPU         : ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5650 - 1GB
Display    : 15.6 Widescreen HD WLED Glossy Display with TrueLife™ (1366x768)
HDD        : 320g

Add ko lang po meron na rin kasi sya HDMI output.

Salamat po sa reply.. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: acepogie on Mar 08, 2011 at 06:06 PM
^
pwedeng pwede na yan sir! good ventilation lang ok kana. mas prone kasi sa overheat ang mga laptop.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: plapoy on Mar 08, 2011 at 06:29 PM
salamat sir acepogie, :) ah ganon po ba.. lagyan ko na lang po siguro ng fan..:) salamat ulit sir.. :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Mar 08, 2011 at 09:32 PM
Guys,

Want to request your opinion on this. I already posted a thread so we can start sharing opinions there. I am really interested if may nakagamit na ito...  I think this is a good start for a HTPC setup. Thread name is "Mini PC"

http://www.zotacusa.com/products/mini-pcs

Some one is selling it in TPC you can also try searching for NetBOX. Maybe we can do a groupbuy on the said items

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: txtus on Mar 12, 2011 at 03:57 PM
AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0ghz 2x1mb   PHP 2580.00
Asus M4A88T-M LE   PHP 3820.00
Corsair Gaming 2gb (CMXG2GX3MA1333C9)   PHP 1200.00
WDC Caviar Blue 500gb/16mb (WD5000AAKX) sata3   PHP 1790.00
HEC Cougar RS 80PLUS 550watts   PHP 2750.00
total                                         12140

Ok na po ba ito sa sony bravia ex400?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Mar 13, 2011 at 08:09 AM
Netbook 1080p issues...(my problem as well...)

For those looking into playing HD video at 1080p resolution for netbooks, this can only be done by good graphics chips  as the most powerful netbook classified processors are not powerful enough for 1080p software decoding to date. I think only broadcom crystal hd, nvidia ion2 and fusion (amd e-350) can handle good 1080p playback for graphics chips. Hd 3200 cannot go beyond 720p and even here its not good. So look closely at what the netbook uses for its graphics.

So without the above video chips, you have to get a PC with better graphics. I guess the HDMI is a gimmick without the power behind it for most netbooks for HD playback.

Actually, if you like tweaking, you can get u230 and lower power netbooks to play 1080p, but you would have to use software decode and tweak the settings so that the cpu can handle it (core avc). Reports show you have to disable a lot of features that it will not really be 1080p anymore...So maybe 720p is better for these netbooks at best...

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: xyobub on Mar 13, 2011 at 06:22 PM
Mga Sirs,

need your advise for building a desktop for HTPC & Gaming 50/50 ika nga. simple lang po ang kailangan
ko hindi po "i7"  ;D dahil may ka mahalan po iyon. budget is  20k - 25k. medyo newbie po kasi ako pagdating
sa specs ng mga PC.

Salamat po sa mga magrereply  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunslinger on Mar 14, 2011 at 07:20 AM
Netbook 1080p issues...(my problem as well...)

For those looking into playing HD video at 1080p resolution for netbooks, this can only be done by good graphics chips  as the most powerful netbook classified processors are not powerful enough for 1080p software decoding to date. I think only broadcom crystal hd, nvidia ion2 and fusion (amd e-350) can handle good 1080p playback for graphics chips. Hd 3200 cannot go beyond 720p and even here its not good. So look closely at what the netbook uses for its graphics.

So without the above video chips, you have to get a PC with better graphics. I guess the HDMI is a gimmick without the power behind it for most netbooks for HD playback.

Actually, if you like tweaking, you can get u230 and lower power netbooks to play 1080p, but you would have to use software decode and tweak the settings so that the cpu can handle it (core avc). Reports show you have to disable a lot of features that it will not really be 1080p anymore...So maybe 720p is better for these netbooks at best...
Agree on the 720p. I tested this weekend the new Sony VAIO YB, their latest netbook and it couldn't handle a 1080p demo file from samsung and some other 1080p flicks. 720p though played flawlessly.
I wasn't able to test the audio output though since they only have the TV for testing. Is it safe to assume that it will be able to handle a decent Dolby Digital or DTS for that matter through HDMI? I'm good enough with the display output. Just a little worried with the audio. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Mar 14, 2011 at 09:55 AM
Sir:

I think it should as it is in the specs. The best way is to test this with multimedia speakers they may have available with decoding capabilities.

I am concerned about your comment on the Vaio Yb. Almost all tests on the amd e-350 shows this plays 1080p flawlessly. Please check if they have installed the newest uvd3 decoder drivers and software that supports this. Please try the windows media player 12 with this.

Thanks and update us with your findings going forward :)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunslinger on Mar 14, 2011 at 10:28 AM
Hmm. I didn't know about the updated drivers. I installed VLC on their unit since the media player version that they got can't play some of my HD formats.  The staff was gracious enough to allow me to do it. Most shops I've been to won't even allow me to plug my portable drive. ;D

I hope it can really do 1080p and deliver on the audio so I won't have any regrets. My wife is deadset on it and only the MAC Air can change her mind. Not even the upcoming IPAD2 budged her. ;D

I'll see if I can test it using your reccommendation before finally purchasing. There is still the discussion on what color to get. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Mar 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM
Hi:

The Vaio is a real PC unlike the Ipad2 which is more like an appliance.

I think you would be fine with 1080p on this. Nice choice for a laptop.

I am likely getting the DMZ1. Looks like not from here as its not available. The good thing is its covered by a global HP warranty :)







Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Mar 14, 2011 at 12:55 PM
It is likely that you need to load newer drivers for the Sony YB. Sony and Toshiba opted out of the AMD driver program meaning you have to load new drivers yourself, tsk!

Cheers
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: gunslinger on Mar 15, 2011 at 05:32 AM
There is already a seller of DM1Z in TPC. Cost 30K though. :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: larokulit on Mar 15, 2011 at 07:44 PM
Mga sir, pa feedback naman pag may firsthand experience na kayo sa properly configured AMD e350 setup playing 1080p. Nakaka engganyo tong Asrock E35M1, 6k lang: http://www.pcoptions.ph/product_view.php?sid=12&id=970 (http://www.pcoptions.ph/product_view.php?sid=12&id=970)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Mar 15, 2011 at 08:23 PM
Thanks Gunslinger. At this Dmz1 price, mukhang maganda Vaio, hehehe.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lncc63 on Mar 23, 2011 at 05:44 PM
Setup:  Gigabyte E350N, 4Gb PC1333 RAM, 500Gb 6Gbs HDD, Windows 7, uTorrent, Media Center, Media Center Master, Media Browser. 

Not really working that well as an HTPC but I'm new to this and I just started last week.  Its much better than our P4 3Ghz 1G FX5500 PCs of course, but so far we still watch on the Xtreamer PROs.  Maybe if I turn off the uTorrent when watching it will perform better.  Price is certainly great, I spent less than P15k.  Also very attractive is the power consumption - important if you pay your electricity bill.

Sorry I can't comment about game playing.  I read its ok with the "last year's" games.  Boot speed is great but I think I want a SSD.

I hate using our TV as the monitor even if the TV is full HD.   Normally, I use W7's remote desktop, even my tiny netbook is more comfortable.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Mar 23, 2011 at 08:53 PM
Where did you bought the parts? Can you itemize it? ?Thanks inadvance.





Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lncc63 on Mar 25, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Got it from a seller on Tipid-PC.  Name is Mike, cell no. 09228278781.  He was very accommodating helping me work through all the choices over a few days, and although we eventually gave up, he went to quite a length to find me  the casing I wanted.  A++ seller in my book.   Oh and another thing:  I received all the items SEALED.  For me this is very important.  Ok here's the list:

1. Gigabyte E350N
2. 2 x 2GB DDR3 PC1333
3. WD 500Gb 7600RPM 6 Gbps SATA
4. Liteon DVD/RW DL drive

The case I got at Virra Mall.

Since I've also gotten a few things from CD-R King:  PC remote, and HDMI cable.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Mar 25, 2011 at 02:34 PM
thanks bro. could you include the price of each items?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lncc63 on Mar 25, 2011 at 02:45 PM
Sorry but I can't remember the figures except that the mobo cost P6990 and the total, including the RAM, HDD, and DVD, was P13,200.

They delivered it to me for free by the way.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kerryzeng on Mar 29, 2011 at 03:42 PM
I will choose leawo hd converter, I used that for years, I trust it
http://www.leawo.com.hd-video-converter/ (http://www.leawo.com.hd-video-converter/)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Mar 29, 2011 at 07:52 PM
Wala pa po ba nagamit ng mga MiniPCs dito???? Really interested to know your suggestions and opinions....

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: coolswitch on Apr 09, 2011 at 01:05 PM
Mga sir, newbie here sa HTPC,

Will this setup work for 1080p playing?

EMX-AMD880HD3-PRO
AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0ghz
2-4 Gb DDR3
etc...

or will I still need a discrete graphic card?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Apr 09, 2011 at 02:01 PM
the 880 board is enough for HD playback
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: FrancisD on Apr 09, 2011 at 04:10 PM
Sir:

The 880 board will play HD. But likely it will drop frames at 1080p. It would not be able to run many of the AMD post video processing options. If you want really good video quality, you need to either go with fusion (AMD Brazos) or better yet, a discrete graphics card such as the HD 5450. See post on HD 5450.

You can actually try the 880 first. If you want something better, just get a discrete video card as an upgrade.

Cheers

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: coolswitch on Apr 10, 2011 at 10:15 AM
Mga sir, newbie here sa HTPC,

Will this setup work for 1080p playing?

EMX-AMD880HD3-PRO
AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0ghz
2-4 Gb DDR3
etc...

or will I still need a discrete graphic card?

My other option for the motherboard is the:

Jetway MA3-785GP-LF
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM
You can actually try the 880 first. If you want something better, just get a discrete video card as an upgrade.

this is actually the best way to go. test your HD movies using the IGP first. if you think video playback is not good enough, then that is the time to add a discrete video card.

this is just similar to upgrading gaming video card. when the new games you want to play cannot be supported any more at your desired frame rate, then that is the time to upgrade your video card.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 10, 2011 at 12:40 PM
this is actually the best way to go. test your HD movies using the IGP first. if you think video playback is not good enough, then that is the time to add a discrete video card.

this is just similar to upgrading gaming video card. when the new games you want to play cannot be supported any more at your desired frame rate, then that is the time to upgrade your video card.

I truly agree. :)

I also suggest going a level up (at least) when putting discrete graphics, unless the power envelope is truly a big factor. The increase in price isn't much, and it might save you from an incremental upgrade in the future. The HD5450 has a hard time playing videos smoothly with all post-processing features running at higher resolutions  (compression artifact de-blocking in particular needs quite some muscle). A model up (HD5550) and the newer replacement (HD6450) seems to have no issue handling this.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: coolswitch on Apr 17, 2011 at 04:50 PM
I'll be going out within the week to get my mobo. Main use would be for HTPC, minor gaming lang siguro kung sakali. Now, only question is which one should I get:

Jetway MA3-785GP-LF
<Click here for specs> (http://www.jetway.com.tw/jw/motherboard_view.asp?productid=668&proname=MA3-785GP)

or

Emaxx AMD880HD3-Pro
<Click here for specs> (http://www.emaxxtech.com/products.php?id=31)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nogo on Apr 17, 2011 at 07:11 PM
Got it from a seller on Tipid-PC.  Name is Mike, cell no. 09228278781.  He was very accommodating helping me work through all the choices over a few days, and although we eventually gave up, he went to quite a length to find me  the casing I wanted.  A++ seller in my book.   Oh and another thing:  I received all the items SEALED.  For me this is very important.  Ok here's the list:

1. Gigabyte E350N
2. 2 x 2GB DDR3 PC1333
3. WD 500Gb 7600RPM 6 Gbps SATA
4. Liteon DVD/RW DL drive

The case I got at Virra Mall.



Since I've also gotten a few things from CD-R King:  PC remote, and HDMI cable.




Hi sir, plan ko rin set-up HTPC with these specs. Ask ko lang performance on 1080p vidoes? D ba nagstutter? How about the audio, can it decode or passthrough HD audio both  Dolby and DTS?

tia
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 17, 2011 at 08:07 PM
I'll be going out within the week to get my mobo. Main use would be for HTPC, minor gaming lang siguro kung sakali. Now, only question is which one should I get:

Jetway MA3-785GP-LF
<Click here for specs> (http://www.jetway.com.tw/jw/motherboard_view.asp?productid=668&proname=MA3-785GP)

or

Emaxx AMD880HD3-Pro
<Click here for specs> (http://www.emaxxtech.com/products.php?id=31)



The 880 chipet is newer than the 785, but the Jetway seems to have an advantage in terms of connectivity.  The Emaxx doesn't seem to have an HDMI port, nor does it have an SPDIF out on the back panel (only a header on the board).

Of course if you want lossless multichannel audio, you'd likely put a dedicated video board anyway.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: coolswitch on Apr 18, 2011 at 05:29 AM
Quote from: Stagea
The 880 chipet is newer than the 785, but the Jetway seems to have an advantage in terms of connectivity.  The Emaxx doesn't seem to have an HDMI port, nor does it have an SPDIF out on the back panel (only a header on the board).

Of course if you want lossless multichannel audio, you'd likely put a dedicated video board anyway.

Thanks. I got 2-3 more days to make the final decision. Though it leans toward the 785g, aside from connectivity it has the sideport memory (though as I understand it doesnt really make a big difference, or I understand it wrong).
Title: HTPC, NAS
Post by: rickmor on Apr 20, 2011 at 10:24 AM
Hi guys,

Can you stream video (avi or mkv) to several Tv's using a NAS (qnap, synology) or a HTPC? I am thinking of a home media server streaming to several tv's in the house. Will streaming to more than one or two tv's strain my wireless network?

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: squatt3r on Apr 24, 2011 at 10:18 AM
Asrock e30m1/usb3 with AMD Zacate APU.

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/e350m1003-1.jpg)
Title: Re: HTPC, NAS
Post by: lncc63 on Apr 24, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Hi guys,

Can you stream video (avi or mkv) to several Tv's using a NAS (qnap, synology) or a HTPC? I am thinking of a home media server streaming to several tv's in the house. Will streaming to more than one or two tv's strain my wireless network?

Thanks

I think as long as the decoding is not done by the source (NAS or HTPC) things should be ok.  We do this regularly between our two XTreamer PROs meaning each is playing a file from the other one.  Last night I was also moving some files between our HTPC and one of the XTreamers while it was playing another file.   This is however all on a wired 100 Mbs network.   

I used to have one of the XTreamers using a 150Mbs WiFi dongle but the arrangement was fraught with problems so I changed it to a wired connection.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nogo on Apr 24, 2011 at 01:53 PM
MSI E350IA-E45 - AMD APU Fusion
1TB WD SataII
DVDRW 24x
4Gb RAM
Windows 7 Ultimate
XBMC(Dharma) front end integrated MPC-HC external player for m2ts files for Bitstreaming Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd381/nogo4427/IMG_1118.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd381/nogo4427/IMG_1127-1.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd381/nogo4427/IMG_1124.jpg)

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd381/nogo4427/IMG_1131.jpg)




Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 24, 2011 at 03:16 PM

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd381/nogo4427/IMG_1131.jpg)

OT:
nice rack bro, sukat na sukat ang mga gamit :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Apr 24, 2011 at 05:28 PM
@nogo: how's the performance at hd playback?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nogo on Apr 24, 2011 at 06:40 PM
@dowal, sir sa 1080p meron  drop frames pero tolerable lang. 720p work very well. see below screenshot for 1080p.

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd381/nogo4427/iron_man2.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 30, 2011 at 01:43 PM
Guys,

I'm planning to build a new HTPC coz my officemate is insisting in buying my CPU  ;D
Need your suggestions please... Budget ko around 18K. Meron na kong casing na magagamit  :D
Planning in using AMD procie and ATi VC.
Thanks so much  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Apr 30, 2011 at 03:13 PM
@dowal, sir sa 1080p meron  drop frames pero tolerable lang. 720p work very well. see below screenshot for 1080p.

I've decided to quit on my emaxx780g, I'm having it RMAed this coming Monday, hopefully i'm not too late (on the warranty).  System crashes at least twice a day, all of other components working properly on my 2nd desktop.

What's a suitable replacement for my busted 780g?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 05, 2011 at 09:40 AM
Mga masters,
Anong Laptop ang capable for HTPC duties?
Planning to sell na my rig and replace it with a laptop for portability.
Around how much kaya yung with bluray rom na?
I'm looking for a laptop that could play 1080p with ease and could bitstream DTS-HD and Dolby True-HD through HDMI.

Thanks so much!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on May 05, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Mga masters,
Anong Laptop ang capable for HTPC duties?
Planning to sell na my rig and replace it with a laptop for portability.
Around how much kaya yung with bluray rom na?
I'm looking for a laptop that could play 1080p with ease and could bitstream DTS-HD and Dolby True-HD through HDMI.

Thanks so much!!!  ;D
bought this (first image red) (http://villman.com/Product-Detail/Asus_X42JY_VX124) from villman, but returned it and replaced it with this (2nd image) (http://villman.com/Product-Detail/Asus_K42JY_VX026), after i noticed that the body is a bit flimpsy.  same specs, good buy for 30k.  :)


(http://villman.com/product_photos/asus-x42jy.gif)
(http://villman.com/product_photos/asus-k42jy.gif)

ganda sana nung red, elegant design and color.  kaso kailangan mo talagang pumili ng magandang stock.
using it as my download and room htpc.  :)
still using my trusty 'ol 780g emaxx for my projector  :)


btw here's the specs

Quote
Specifications:
Processor & Cache Memory Intel® Core™ i3-380M 2.53 GHz Processor
 
Operating System Free DOS
 
Chipset Mobile Intel® HM55 Express Chipset 
Main Memory DDR3 1066 MHz SDRAM, 2 x SODIMM socket for expansion up to 4GB SDRAM

 
Display 14" 16:9 HD (1366x768) LED backlit
 
Video Graphics & Memory ATI Mobility™ Radeon® HD 6470, 1G DDR3 VRAM
 
Hard Drive 500GB,5400rpm
 
Optical Drive DVD Super Multi Double Layer
 
Card Reader SD ,MMC card reader 
Video Camera 0.3 Mega Pixel web camera
 
Fax/Modem/LAN/WLAN Integrated 802.11 b/g/n or 802.11b/g
Built-in Bluetooth™ V2.1+EDR (optional)
10/100/1000 Base T
 
LED Status Indicator Power-on/Suspend
Battery Charging/full/low
Storage device access
Capital Lock
Wireless on status indicator
 
Interface 1 x Headphone-out jack
1 x VGA port/Mini D-sub 15-pin for external monitor
3 x USB 2.0 ports
1 x RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert
1 x HDMI
 
Audio Built-in speaker and microphone
Altec Lansing® speakers
SRS Premium Sound
 
AC Adapter Output: 19 V DC, 4.74 A, 90W
Input: 100-240 V AC, 50/60 Hz universal

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 05, 2011 at 12:06 PM
Thanks sir ninjababez.
Maganda nga ang specs nya  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 05, 2011 at 12:07 PM
to bit-stream Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS-HD MA, just select a laptop with any of the following:

- Core i3/i5 (Clarkdale) + Intel HD
- Core i3/i5 (Sandy Bridge) + Intel HD
- Intel/AMD processor + AMD Radeon HD5000/HD6000 series graphics
- Intel/AMD processor + NVIDIA GT430 and above graphics

the Zacate netbook can bitstream as well, AMD E-350 + ATI HD6310.

for 1080p playback, a dual-core processor is recommended.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on May 05, 2011 at 12:35 PM
to bit-stream Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS-HD MA, just select a laptop with any of the following:

- Core i3/i5 (Clarkdale) + Intel HD
- Core i3/i5 (Sandy Bridge) + Intel HD
-
Intel/AMD processor + AMD Radeon HD5000/HD6000 series graphics
- Intel/AMD processor + NVIDIA GT430 and above graphics

the Zacate netbook can bitstream as well, AMD E-350 + ATI HD6310.

for 1080p playback, a dual-core processor is recommended.

i wish i could see these in action  ;D
im one of those guys who think Intel graphics is inferior, and would want to prove myself wrong :D
im at my friends house at the moment and using Asus K42F (http://villman.com/Product-Detail/Asus_K42F-VX138) series which is using Mobile Intel® HM55 Express Chipset technology, and Intel® GMA HD vga.  i wish my friend has a receiver to plug this  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 05, 2011 at 12:58 PM
@ninjababes: of course when it comes to graphics, ATI/NVIDIA is still superior from Intel. but we still have to give Intel some credits sometimes. :)

Quote
One of the biggest strengths of the Core i3, and the H55 chipset is that it also supports HDMI Audio Pass Through for  Native Dolby TrueHD & DTS-HD Master Audio bitstreaming.

The primary goal off this writing was to get the  Dolby TrueHD & DTS-HD Master Audio up & running. And guess what …. it really worked !

Bitstreaming Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD with the Intel Core i3
http://doityourselfhtpc.wordpress.com/2010/09/13/bitstreaming-dolby-truehd-and-dts-hd-with-intel-core-i3/ (http://doityourselfhtpc.wordpress.com/2010/09/13/bitstreaming-dolby-truehd-and-dts-hd-with-intel-core-i3/)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 05, 2011 at 03:03 PM
to bit-stream Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS-HD MA, just select a laptop with any of the following:

- Core i3/i5 (Clarkdale) + Intel HD
- Core i3/i5 (Sandy Bridge) + Intel HD
- Intel/AMD processor + AMD Radeon HD5000/HD6000 series graphics
- Intel/AMD processor + NVIDIA GT430 and above graphics

the Zacate netbook can bitstream as well, AMD E-350 + ATI HD6310.

for 1080p playback, a dual-core processor is recommended.


Nice... Thanks sir  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 07, 2011 at 06:52 PM
for those looking for low-profile sound card for their slim HTPC, here's the solution..

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Asus/Xonar_HDAV_Slim_3.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Asus/Xonar_HDAV_Slim_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 12, 2011 at 09:21 AM
to bit-stream Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS-HD MA, just select a laptop with any of the following:

- Core i3/i5 (Clarkdale) + Intel HD
- Core i3/i5 (Sandy Bridge) + Intel HD
- Intel/AMD processor + AMD Radeon HD5000/HD6000 series graphics
- Intel/AMD processor + NVIDIA GT430 and above graphics

the Zacate netbook can bitstream as well, AMD E-350 + ATI HD6310.

for 1080p playback, a dual-core processor is recommended.


Sir are the zacate netbooks capable of playing 1080p bluray movie?
Could the dual core 1.6GHz E-350+HD6310 handle this smoothly?
I'm planning kasi to get external bluray Rom for playback.
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 13, 2011 at 09:18 AM
^yes, it can.

actually, playing blu-ray rips requires more resources than playing the actual blu-ray discs. example (but using ION330-BD in this case)..

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forums/ION330_Playback_Resources.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 13, 2011 at 11:26 AM
^yes, it can.

actually, playing blu-ray rips requires more resources than playing the actual blu-ray discs. example (but using ION330-BD in this case)..

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forums/ION330_Playback_Resources.jpg)

Thanks sir.
That's great to know  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CMac on May 13, 2011 at 12:57 PM
pardon me if i don't intend to backread anymore but can someone tell me how you guys negate the power inefficiency of htpc's compared to low wattage nmt's?
I mean most psu's that we use are in the 500W+ mark. do htpc users just consider the amount of power the component draws from the 500w max? so in essence, it just consumes a fraction of the max power of the PSU?
if an htpc only draws less than 50watts for hd playback then this is a better option. is 50 watts or less improbable?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: plapoy on May 13, 2011 at 05:21 PM
Mga masters,
Anong Laptop ang capable for HTPC duties?
Planning to sell na my rig and replace it with a laptop for portability.
Around how much kaya yung with bluray rom na?
I'm looking for a laptop that could play 1080p with ease and could bitstream DTS-HD and Dolby True-HD through HDMI.

Thanks so much!!!  ;D

Sir Louie.. Eto po ung spec ng laptop ko baka sakali makatulong..

Processor
Intel® CoreTM i5 2410M Processor (2.3GHz/3MB cache)

Operating System
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-Bit

Memory3
4GB (1 X 4GB) 1 DIMM DDR3 1333Mhz

Chipset
Mobile Intel® 6 Series Express Chipset (HM67)

Video Card
ATI Mobility Radeon 1GB  5470 Series
15.6" (39.6cm) HD WLED True-Life (1366x768)

Audio and Speakers
SRS Premium SoundTM - 2 speakers @ 2W each
Built-in microphone

Hard Drive
Up to 500GB4 hard drive (7200RPM)

Optical Drive
Internal tray-load DVD+/-RW

Power
6-cell 48WHr Li-Ion Battery

Camera
1.0MP Integrated 1280x720 native HD Webcam

Wireless
Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 1030(802.11 b/g/n+ Bluetooth 3.0+HS)
Ports, Slots & Chassis
Externally Accessible

(2) USB 3.0
(1) USB 2.0
(1) USB 2.0 with E-SATA & Power Share

HDMI v1.4 Port

VGA Port
Integrated network connector 10/100

LAN (RJ45)
AC adapter connector
Audio jacks (1-line out, 1 Mic-in)

8-in-1 Media Card Reader

Digital (SD) Memory Card
Secure Digital Extended Capacity (SDXC)
Secure Digital High Capacity (SDHC)
Multi Media Card (MMC)
MultiMedia Card plus (MMC+)
Memory Stick (MS)
Memory Stick PRO (MS Pro)
xD Picture Card (xD)

Dimensions & Weight

SWITCH by Design Studio enabled Laptop

Width: 14.80" (376.0mm)
Height: 1.24" (31.37mm) front / 1.39" (35.2 mm) back
Depth: 10.24” (260.2mm)
Starting weight of 5.84 lbs (2.65 kg)

Acquired last year sa Singapore.. Mas mura kasi don mga  laptops lalo na pag IT show.. hehe..

Good luck sir.







Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lncc63 on May 13, 2011 at 05:30 PM
There are low wattage system already Bro.  I share your concern about regular desktop power consumption so I looked for a lower power system I could keep on 24x7.   Actually, I wasn't looking for a HTPC, we use NMTs, but the motherboard, Gigabyte E350N, I found is actually designed for use as an HTPC.  It only draws 19 watts!  Of course if you put a hard disk, which you will, the consumption goes up.  

I think a lot of the bros also use their HTPCs for gaming too which is why they go for "gas guzzlers".  For gaming my family uses a PS3, which I don't think most PCs can beat when it comes to gaming.  For browsing and day-to-day PC work we use these old Pentium 4s :).   Maybe this approach is more expensive in term of total investment but I think the running cost is lower and the value proposition is better.  

Its just like having a system for music and a system for movies.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 13, 2011 at 09:02 PM
Sir Louie.. Eto po ung spec ng laptop ko baka sakali makatulong..

Processor
Intel® CoreTM i5 2410M Processor (2.3GHz/3MB cache)

Operating System
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-Bit

Memory3
4GB (1 X 4GB) 1 DIMM DDR3 1333Mhz

Chipset
Mobile Intel® 6 Series Express Chipset (HM67)

Video Card
ATI Mobility Radeon 1GB  5470 Series
15.6" (39.6cm) HD WLED True-Life (1366x768)

Audio and Speakers
SRS Premium SoundTM - 2 speakers @ 2W each
Built-in microphone

Hard Drive
Up to 500GB4 hard drive (7200RPM)

Optical Drive
Internal tray-load DVD+/-RW

Power
6-cell 48WHr Li-Ion Battery

Camera
1.0MP Integrated 1280x720 native HD Webcam

Wireless
Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 1030(802.11 b/g/n+ Bluetooth 3.0+HS)
Ports, Slots & Chassis
Externally Accessible

(2) USB 3.0
(1) USB 2.0
(1) USB 2.0 with E-SATA & Power Share

HDMI v1.4 Port

VGA Port
Integrated network connector 10/100

LAN (RJ45)
AC adapter connector
Audio jacks (1-line out, 1 Mic-in)

8-in-1 Media Card Reader

Digital (SD) Memory Card
Secure Digital Extended Capacity (SDXC)
Secure Digital High Capacity (SDHC)
Multi Media Card (MMC)
MultiMedia Card plus (MMC+)
Memory Stick (MS)
Memory Stick PRO (MS Pro)
xD Picture Card (xD)

Dimensions & Weight

SWITCH by Design Studio enabled Laptop

Width: 14.80" (376.0mm)
Height: 1.24" (31.37mm) front / 1.39" (35.2 mm) back
Depth: 10.24” (260.2mm)
Starting weight of 5.84 lbs (2.65 kg)

Acquired last year sa Singapore.. Mas mura kasi don mga  laptops lalo na pag IT show.. hehe..

Good luck sir.









Salamat sir plapoy  :D
Gandang specs nyan!
Pero baka mahal na yan dito sa Pinas  :'(
Budget ko lang is around 22K max...  :(
Most probably yung mga E-350 based laptops ang papasok sa budget or sana makatyempo ng 2nd hand na higher specs  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: plapoy on May 13, 2011 at 09:46 PM
Salamat sir plapoy  :D
Gandang specs nyan!
Pero baka mahal na yan dito sa Pinas  :'(
Budget ko lang is around 22K max...  :(
Most probably yung mga E-350 based laptops ang papasok sa budget or sana makatyempo ng 2nd hand na higher specs  ;D

No prob sir.. i got it for 47k i think.. pero nagcheck ako ngayon.. mga 1ksgd na lang sya estimated to be around 30k.. (If you will buy it in SG)

Kung dito po sigurado mga 50k plus pa yan ganyan spec.. Konti ipon na lang sir pasok na sa budget nyo yan.. maganda source yan sa 55" nyo at future LSi? tama ba?. hehe.. ;D

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 13, 2011 at 09:52 PM
No prob sir.. i got it for 47k i think.. pero nagcheck ako ngayon.. mga 1ksgd na lang sya estimated to be around 30k.. (If you will buy it in SG)

Kung dito po sigurado mga 50k plus pa yan ganyan spec.. Konti ipon na lang sir pasok na sa budget nyo yan.. maganda source yan sa 55" nyo at future LSi? tama ba?. hehe.. ;D



Hahaha  :D
Wishlist pa din brader  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CMac on May 14, 2011 at 04:46 PM
There are low wattage system already Bro.  I share your concern about regular desktop power consumption so I looked for a lower power system I could keep on 24x7.   Actually, I wasn't looking for a HTPC, we use NMTs, but the motherboard, Gigabyte E350N, I found is actually designed for use as an HTPC.  It only draws 19 watts!  Of course if you put a hard disk, which you will, the consumption goes up.  

I think a lot of the bros also use their HTPCs for gaming too which is why they go for "gas guzzlers".  For gaming my family uses a PS3, which I don't think most PCs can beat when it comes to gaming.  For browsing and day-to-day PC work we use these old Pentium 4s :).   Maybe this approach is more expensive in term of total investment but I think the running cost is lower and the value proposition is better.  

Its just like having a system for music and a system for movies.

ty bro. that pretty much confirms that nmt is still the most efficient way to play hd files. nmt is a still a winner as long as it's 5k below imo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: XanderCage on May 19, 2011 at 04:51 AM
na try ko din kasi itest yung wdtv live at xtreamer, ang layo ng image quality sa htpc using ATI videocard.

yung friend ko din binenta yung xtreamer nya kasi mas mganda quality ng htpc. anyway kung di naman maselan pwede na nmt.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lncc63 on May 19, 2011 at 06:11 AM
na try ko din kasi itest yung wdtv live at xtreamer, ang layo ng image quality sa htpc using ATI videocard.

yung friend ko din binenta yung xtreamer nya kasi mas mganda quality ng htpc. anyway kung di naman maselan pwede na nmt.  ;D

Really?  Maybe the E350 isn't as good as the ATI video card but I have not really tried to compare the picture quality of the XTreamer and our HTPC.  While I might try to compare them one of these days,   PQ isn't as important as convenience and easy of use. 

So far our HTPC is much more complicated to use than the XTreamer.  I've kind of got Windows Media Center working on it but ...   I'm using Media Center Master to scrape data, and Media Browser for presentation ... still.    What I've not done is work on getting our Logitech Harmony to work with it.  The going is slow because we're happy with our XTreamers.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 21, 2011 at 01:39 PM
guys which do u think is a better performer sa HTPC, HP DM1z or the Sony Vaio Y series? thanks  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: coolswitch on May 22, 2011 at 03:25 AM
been using my setup for about 2 weeks now:

Emaxx amd880hd3-pro
AMD Athlon II X2 250
2GB RAM w/ Heat Spreader
1x80GB SATA HDD (PRIMARY DRIVE)
1x500GB SATA HDD
1x250GB SATA HDD
Samsung TruDirect DVD+/-RW


So far so good. Pero I'm thinking of a good soundcard to add in, any recommendations?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 22, 2011 at 09:07 AM
sharing some box shots of ASUS Xonar Essence STX..

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forums/IMG_8749.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forums/IMG_8748.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 22, 2011 at 09:08 AM
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forums/IMG_8750.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forums/IMG_8753.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Tavus on May 22, 2011 at 06:54 PM
i just discovered that ati dvi to adapters can pass thourgh hdmi audio. epic. my pc now goes strait through hdmi, i can also decode basic dolby prologic and i no longer need crummy analog cables.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jul 29, 2011 at 12:52 PM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/9lennr.jpg)

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2uhrdlk.jpg)

(http://i54.tinypic.com/2zt8qzb.jpg)

(http://i55.tinypic.com/seqba0.jpg)

intel i3-2100T
gigabyte itx H67
2x2gb ocz ram
2x2tb samsung hd
90watt pico psu
thermalright HR02 cpu cooler
custom chipset cooler
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 29, 2011 at 03:01 PM
nicely done AC   :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jul 29, 2011 at 04:28 PM
where is the like button sir AC?
 ;D ;D ;D

masters please suggest a VC that support dts-hdma and/or dolby true-hd for a really tight budget here.
thanks!thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Jul 29, 2011 at 04:35 PM
where is the like button sir AC?
 ;D ;D ;D

masters please suggest a VC that support dts-hdma and/or dolby true-hd for a really tight budget here.
thanks!thanks!

+1  same kami ni brader joko, yung pwede casual gaming preferrably sana nvidia din para di na ako magreinstall driver, currently using gtx 260, more on movies & music na ko this times...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jul 29, 2011 at 04:46 PM
more on music and movies but still gaming on a side track brader weng?
 :D :D :D
baliktad tayo ATI hanap ko.
no time to play talaga eh.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jul 29, 2011 at 07:55 PM
thanks :D
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Post by: joko11 on Jul 29, 2011 at 09:13 PM
masters what can you say with this VC?
(http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/Sapphire_ATi_Radeon_HD6570_2GB_2.jpg)
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD6570 2GB

dts-hd and trueHD lang ang importante sakin.
the 3D capability is just a bonus.
is there other VC out there i should get instead of this but with the same benefit and less cheaper?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Jul 29, 2011 at 09:58 PM
more on music and movies but still gaming on a side track brader weng?
 :D :D :D
baliktad tayo ATI hanap ko.
no time to play talaga eh.

ano ba mas maganda sa 2 brader pagdating sa movies?  naglalaro lang ako siguro 2x a month na lang during weekends, 2hrs na pinakamatagal, mas masarap manuod ng movies e :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Jul 29, 2011 at 10:26 PM
masters what can you say with this VC?
(http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/Sapphire_ATi_Radeon_HD6570_2GB_2.jpg)
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD6570 2GB

dts-hd and trueHD lang ang importante sakin.
the 3D capability is just a bonus.
is there other VC out there i should get instead of this but with the same benefit and less cheaper?

Hi, wala bang 6570 na 1GB lang? kasi you won't need 2GB kung dts-hd and true-hd lang ang importante sa iyo. You could also get 5570 which should be a bit cheaper if you have no interest in playing 3D Blu-ray discs.

BTW, meron ka nang nabiling receiver?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jul 29, 2011 at 10:43 PM
ano ba mas maganda sa 2 brader pagdating sa movies?  naglalaro lang ako siguro 2x a month na lang during weekends, 2hrs na pinakamatagal, mas masarap manuod ng movies e :D

pc gamers prefer nvidia.wala ako masyado experience sa pc gaming since ps3 ang gamit ko. ;)
kung nvidia sa games.i think its safe to say ATI is for movies
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jul 29, 2011 at 10:50 PM
Hi, wala bang 6570 na 1GB lang? kasi you won't need 2GB kung dts-hd and true-hd lang ang importante sa iyo. You could also get 5570 which should be a bit cheaper if you have no interest in playing 3D Blu-ray discs.

BTW, meron ka nang nabiling receiver?

Thanks.

yup. humble pio 520 lang brader ang nakayanan ng bulsa. :D :D :D
il consider 5570.i do a little research at yan nga ang malimit na nakikita ko.
the question is..kaya kaya nya kung mag upgrade nako sa bigger panel with 3D?
a 55incher size perhaps
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Jul 30, 2011 at 02:34 AM
yup. humble pio 520 lang brader ang nakayanan ng bulsa. :D :D :D
il consider 5570.i do a little research at yan nga ang malimit na nakikita ko.
the question is..kaya kaya nya kung mag upgrade nako sa bigger panel with 3D?
a 55incher size perhaps


Ok na yan pio 520 nabasa ko rin doon sa other site na meron ka na bagong speakers. Regarding playing 3D maski anong panel size pa with regards to 5570 and 6570 is depende sa source of 3D mo currently meron 3 common options

1. Half SBS - basically a mkv file at 1920x1080 resolution with the left/right images squished at 960x1080 each. This is the same as playing a 1080p file so no problem na with dxva acceleration of your current onboard video card.

2. full SBS - two files (left and right) with full hd resolution for each file. currently only stereoscopic player software can play this and unfortunately walang dxva support so this will all be CPU dependent. I have a 3.0ghz dual core AMD and most na try ko ok naman minsan meron konting stutter. pero to be safe you will a need higher than 3.0ghz

3. full 3D BD ISO or BDMV folder - this will be the only time meron advantage ang 6570 over the 5570 because it's uses MVC (multiview coding) na supported ng 6000 series. pag 5000 series card mo balik CPU only processing ito which from the 2 I have tested it will be safer to get a CPU higher than 3.0ghz.

sana nakatulong ito.

BTW, kumusta EB nyo last week? ilan kayo pumunta? (siguro naman mas marami na sa 3 natin before)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jul 30, 2011 at 03:11 AM
Ok na yan pio 520 nabasa ko rin doon sa other site na meron ka na bagong speakers. Regarding playing 3D maski anong panel size pa with regards to 5570 and 6570 is depende sa source of 3D mo currently meron 3 common options

1. Half SBS - basically a mkv file at 1920x1080 resolution with the left/right images squished at 960x1080 each. This is the same as playing a 1080p file so no problem na with dxva acceleration of your current onboard video card.

2. full SBS - two files (left and right) with full hd resolution for each file. currently only stereoscopic player software can play this and unfortunately walang dxva support so this will all be CPU dependent. I have a 3.0ghz dual core AMD and most na try ko ok naman minsan meron konting stutter. pero to be safe you will a need higher than 3.0ghz

3. full 3D BD ISO or BDMV folder - this will be the only time meron advantage ang 6570 over the 5570 because it's uses MVC (multiview coding) na supported ng 6000 series. pag 5000 series card mo balik CPU only processing ito which from the 2 I have tested it will be safer to get a CPU higher than 3.0ghz.

sana nakatulong ito.

BTW, kumusta EB nyo last week? ilan kayo pumunta? (siguro naman mas marami na sa 3 natin before)

2 bago..sumipot naman lahat.si mike(macber2) sumipot na rin sa wakas.rev nagbago ng hilig ???
iv got the 9.2 pakonte konte mabubuo ko na rin.abangers nako for center ;D
target ko nga sana is 6xxx series dahil mag shift na kami from remux to 3D.
thanks sa info brader james.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Jul 30, 2011 at 09:42 AM
2 bago..sumipot naman lahat.si mike(macber2) sumipot na rin sa wakas.rev nagbago ng hilig ???
iv got the 9.2 pakonte konte mabubuo ko na rin.abangers nako for center ;D
target ko nga sana is 6xxx series dahil mag shift na kami from remux to 3D.
thanks sa info brader james.

Kung bibili rin ako ngayon yun 6xxx series na rin kukunin ko dahil konti lang naman yun difference in price sa equivalent model nito sa 5xxx series. Sisiw lang ang 3D sa inyo kung sa remux palang nakuha nyo na lahat. Gusto mo rin na meron konting gaming, anong type of games ba sinasabi mo? And kung in the future gusto mo mag stereo 3D gaming mas ok kung nvidia kunin mo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jul 30, 2011 at 03:12 PM
Kung bibili rin ako ngayon yun 6xxx series na rin kukunin ko dahil konti lang naman yun difference in price sa equivalent model nito sa 5xxx series. Sisiw lang ang 3D sa inyo kung sa remux palang nakuha nyo na lahat. Gusto mo rin na meron konting gaming, anong type of games ba sinasabi mo? And kung in the future gusto mo mag stereo 3D gaming mas ok kung nvidia kunin mo.

i played 3rd person rpg games only not inclined on fps games.like i said brader im no longer playing video games.in fact i sold my ps3 a long time ago. ;D ;D ;D
tumatanda na tayo enaf na sakin ang plants vs zombies. :D :D :D
after 3rd EB maybe we shift to 3D so need ko na hardware with 3D capabilities
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Jul 30, 2011 at 10:07 PM
i played 3rd person rpg games only not inclined on fps games.like i said brader im no longer playing video games.in fact i sold my ps3 a long time ago. ;D ;D ;D
tumatanda na tayo enaf na sakin ang plants vs zombies. :D :D :D
after 3rd EB maybe we shift to 3D so need ko na hardware with 3D capabilities

Kung plants vs zombies and mga casual gaming lang yan sobra sobra na ang 6570 hanap ka lang model with 1GB and passive cooling kung meron. Ang sakit naman yun tumatanda na ako kasi pinakamatanda dati sa groupo hehe. Ang madugo naman talaga sa 3D hardware is yun Tv or projector next is yun glasses kung active shutter pag passive mura lang mga glasses.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jul 30, 2011 at 10:18 PM
Kung plants vs zombies and mga casual gaming lang yan sobra sobra na ang 6570 hanap ka lang model with 1GB and passive cooling kung meron. Ang sakit naman yun tumatanda na ako kasi pinakamatanda dati sa groupo hehe. Ang madugo naman talaga sa 3D hardware is yun Tv or projector next is yun glasses kung active shutter pag passive mura lang mga glasses.

(ot)
do you see the group thread?we test the active shutter of panny on MUA last EB.panalo brader!
walang wala 3D ni LG ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Jul 30, 2011 at 11:30 PM
(ot)
do you see the group thread?we test the active shutter of panny on MUA last EB.panalo brader!
walang wala 3D ni LG ;D ;D ;D


Sa MOA nanaman EB akala ko sa Ortigas area na? Meron palang LG passive 3D demo mapuntahan nga I've only seen Samsung LED active demo sa SM Manila and nakatest naako ng 3D active sa Acer projector and so far no complains naman pero malay natin pag matagal na gamitin baka sumakit ang mata. Pero I think meron laban ang LG passive dito sa atin because of the cheaper cost and most users might not notice or care about the differences with active shutter. Sorry for OT.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 23, 2011 at 05:45 PM
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/HTPC-1.jpg)
HTPC

Specifications:

Motherboard: Asrock E-350M1 w/ AMD Dual-Core Processor E350/E350D
Memory: Emaxx 4GB DDR3
Graphics: Sapphire ATI HD6450
HDD: 500GB WD Scorpio Blue

*1080p playback was stuttering with the onboard AMD Radeon HD 6310 but with the additional dedicated ATI HD 6450...flawless video.  ;D

APAD 7" Touchscreen Media Internet Device as HTPC Remote

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/apad.jpg)(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/apad2.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: seymorebutts on Aug 23, 2011 at 06:30 PM
sir, ano pong brand ng case mo sa e350 htpc?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Aug 23, 2011 at 08:45 PM
hmm.thats weird cuz when i was using my on-board (4250) i dont experience such drop frames or stuttering
maybe catalyst can cure it.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Aug 23, 2011 at 08:54 PM
Doc or bro joko, ano bang counterpart sa nvidia nung hd6450?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Aug 23, 2011 at 09:07 PM
Doc or bro joko, ano bang counterpart sa nvidia nung hd6450?

no idea brader.but im pretty much sure not the gt260 of nividia.wild guess is the 460  ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Aug 23, 2011 at 09:09 PM
no idea brader.but im pretty much sure not the gt260 of nividia.wild guess is the 460  ???

research ko na lang din bro, thanks  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Aug 23, 2011 at 09:19 PM
im using the 6450.so far satisfied with the performance.a friend of mine asked some of my remux and texted me that he's experiencing drop frames with his 260 so i said get ati series 6.but he told me 5xxx of ati is enaf.
no more stuttering on his part. :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Aug 23, 2011 at 09:50 PM
im using the 6450.so far satisfied with the performance.a friend of mine asked some of my remux and texted me that he's experiencing drop frames with his 260 so i said get ati series 6.but he told me 5xxx of ati is enaf.
no more stuttering on his part. :D

ddr5 version yung 6450 mo brader?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 23, 2011 at 09:56 PM
sir, ano pong brand ng case mo sa e350 htpc?

Apex ITX Casing (http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=11526300)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 23, 2011 at 09:58 PM
hmm.thats weird cuz when i was using my on-board (4250) i dont experience such drop frames or stuttering
maybe catalyst can cure it.

Maybe it's the 1.6GHz proc. Just guessing.   ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Aug 23, 2011 at 10:04 PM
ddr5 version yung 6450 mo brader?
nope.
this one ;) ddr3
(http://media.sapphiretech.com//images/prods/1166/11190-02_HD6450_1GBDDR3_HDMI_DVI_VGA_FBC_634408112019240914_200_200.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Aug 23, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Maybe it's the 1.6GHz proc. Just guessing.   ???
pwede master.
maybe on other brand like asrock or msi.
my friend using the E-350 asus and as of him walang issue daw
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Aug 23, 2011 at 10:20 PM
so ddr3 palang yan pero enough na pala, thanks uli brader joko  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 23, 2011 at 11:46 PM
pwede master.
maybe on other brand like asrock or msi.
my friend using the E-350 asus and as of him walang issue daw

Mine is Asrock.  :-\
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Aug 24, 2011 at 02:45 AM
Mine is Asrock.  :-\
no disrespect master pero eto po ang info ayon sa kanila.i maybe wrong..
may i ask the player you use?
ang balita ko kung VLC ang gamit magstutter or hindi magplay ng maayos sa zacate since procie ang ginagamit nito to decode the file unlike mph-hc with DXVA compliant derecho VC and decoding and procie has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: aRujoN on Aug 24, 2011 at 03:02 AM
no idea brader.but im pretty much sure not the gt260 of nividia.wild guess is the 460  ???

according to the link below, the nvidia equivalent of the hd6450 is the GT 220

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-performance-radeon-geforce,2997-7.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-performance-radeon-geforce,2997-7.html)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 24, 2011 at 05:12 AM
no disrespect master pero eto po ang info ayon sa kanila.i maybe wrong..
may i ask the player you use?
ang balita ko kung VLC ang gamit magstutter or hindi magplay ng maayos sa zacate since procie ang ginagamit nito to decode the file unlike mph-hc with DXVA compliant derecho VC and decoding and procie has nothing to do with it.

I use XBMC to play my video files.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Aug 24, 2011 at 09:37 AM
according to the link below, the nvidia equivalent of the hd6450 is the GT 220

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-performance-radeon-geforce,2997-7.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-performance-radeon-geforce,2997-7.html)

parang gtx 520 na ata ngayon brader ang counterpart nabasa ko kagabi...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: aRujoN on Aug 24, 2011 at 09:46 AM
parang gtx 520 na ata ngayon brader ang counterpart nabasa ko kagabi...

sir ang pinaka mababang model ng nvidia na 500series na may GTX is the gtx550
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Aug 24, 2011 at 01:16 PM
sir ang pinaka mababang model ng nvidia na 500series na may GTX is the gtx550

post edited

GT520 pala  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rexFi on Aug 24, 2011 at 02:04 PM
Generic QUBE 700W, am saving up for an XFX 750 watts Pro Core Edition 80PLUS though
InWin Griffin Chassis, am saving up for the Maelstrom or Dragon Slayer
AMD HD6790 video card, pwede na ito, will try the HDMI video and 7.1  output next week ;D
AMD Athlon II x645 2.9 Procie, pwede na rin

question guys, worth it ba yung Blu-Ray na ROM for a HTPC setup?
ayoko kasi magDownload :)
thanks po.



Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Aug 24, 2011 at 03:49 PM
Generic QUBE 700W, am saving up for an XFX 750 watts Pro Core Edition 80PLUS though
InWin Griffin Chassis, am saving up for the Maelstrom or Dragon Slayer
AMD HD6790 video card, pwede na ito, will try the HDMI video and 7.1  output next week ;D
AMD Athlon II x645 2.9 Procie, pwede na rin

question guys, worth it ba yung Blu-Ray na ROM for a HTPC setup?
ayoko kasi magDownload :)
thanks po.

Yes it's worth it if you plan to play blu-ray discs. This is my recommendation since you don't like downloading

Thanks.




Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 24, 2011 at 09:47 PM
Generic QUBE 700W, am saving up for an XFX 750 watts Pro Core Edition 80PLUS though
InWin Griffin Chassis, am saving up for the Maelstrom or Dragon Slayer
AMD HD6790 video card, pwede na ito, will try the HDMI video and 7.1  output next week ;D
AMD Athlon II x645 2.9 Procie, pwede na rin

question guys, worth it ba yung Blu-Ray na ROM for a HTPC setup?
ayoko kasi magDownload :)
thanks po.



Yup sulit. I find the PQ better than my PS3. Just use PowerDVD.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Aug 25, 2011 at 06:10 PM
Yup sulit. I find the PQ better than my PS3. Just use PowerDVD.

I agree. PQ is better than my dedicated player too (after tweaking the processing options and calibrating the output). Aside from the great PQ, you get nearly limitless file compatibility with this platform.

It's more cumbersome to use though, as a downside.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rexFi on Aug 25, 2011 at 07:31 PM
Yup, for now the DVD Discs also has great PQ when played on the PowerDVD player with the video enhancements and acceleration options Am a likin' the True Motion thingie ;D have set it to Smoothest.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 26, 2011 at 09:57 PM
I agree. PQ is better than my dedicated player too (after tweaking the processing options and calibrating the output). Aside from the great PQ, you get nearly limitless file compatibility with this platform.

It's more cumbersome to use though, as a downside.

The initial set-up could be time consuming because of the numerous tweaks and options available but after all is set, trully worth it. I will try out a Linux set up after I get to change my ATI videocard to Nvidia. The boot up time for my e350 machine takes so long running on Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.  >:( Banking on the faster boot up of Linux.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Aug 27, 2011 at 12:13 AM
The initial set-up could be time consuming because of the numerous tweaks and options available but after all is set, trully worth it. I will try out a Linux set up after I get to change my ATI videocard to Nvidia. The boot up time for my e350 machine takes so long running on Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.  >:( Banking on the faster boot up of Linux.

Hi, I'm just wondering why you are changing your ATI video card to Nvidia?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 27, 2011 at 04:54 AM
Hi, I'm just wondering why you are changing your ATI video card to Nvidia?

Thanks.

I have read that Nvidia has better support and compatibility in Linux than ATI.

Taken from Linux forums:

nVidia is the only company that invest time to provide reliable and stable software for just about any operating system. Also they provide VA API through their own API called VDPAU. VDPAU is a VA API in Linux that helps the main processor decode videos that uses a certain video codecs that it supports.

Using drivers from ATI will make your setup unreliable and unstable in any operating system. Sure their cards might be faster than nVidia's at this time, but ATI software is just pathetic. Unfortunately, the open source unofficial software for ATI is better, but is far from supporting all the features of the device. I would only suggest ATI cards for casual use, but not for decoding high definition videos, 3D rendering, and does not mind using unofficial open source drivers.


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nvidia's drivers are indeed a 'whole' lot better than ati's closed and opensource drivers. I'm a nvidia fan but at this moment I'm seriously considering buying a ati card for my next htpc. For me it depends on their next driver if it does support some kind of video acceleration it wil be ati -including the extra config work it takes and the time for my favorite software to adapt the new api- else it will be nvidia and with its very stable drivers which are almost on par with the windows drivers.

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So, after all that, where are we today? Basically, the only vendor giving a decent experience with HD playback out of the box is NVIDIA. For all we know, ATI's equivalent is just as good, but without any programming information, nobody can actually use it.

Since there's no accelerated playback on ATI, it didn't seem worth running any benchmarks with an ATI card fitted


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You are going to want the Nvidia card without a doubt. ATI's drivers are better than they have been in the past, but they still aren't as trouble free as Nvidia's. Since you are using wine you are going to be tweaking things here and there and you aren't going to want to have to chase down driver issues. So just make it easier on yourself and go with Nvidia for now.

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All of my graphics cards are ATI (4550, 6450, 5550) and I always had some problems in HD video playback i.e. stuttering videos, had some horizontal lines going up and down while playing videos (I just don't know the exact technical term for that), XBMC crashes even after installing the restricted drivers.  I have been wishing to have a Linux set up for my HTPC but always have been reverting to Windows because of these problems.  

The ATI hardware has no problems.  The software driver that supports it in Linux isn't as mature as Nvidia.  Nvidia supports Linux so I surmise compatibility would be better.

Maybe it's just an experiment that might solve my problem.  :-\  
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 27, 2011 at 04:46 PM
i know where youre coming from doc. 

let's be honest ati has been the best card for multimedia but bugged drivers tend to cripple the hardware.
so much potential, kita naman sa bechies ang kaso sablay talaga.  madalas mas maganda pa gumamit ng older driver para gumana lang.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 27, 2011 at 05:43 PM
i know where youre coming from doc. 

let's be honest ati has been the best card for multimedia but bugged drivers tend to cripple the hardware.
so much potential, kita naman sa bechies ang kaso sablay talaga.  madalas mas maganda pa gumamit ng older driver para gumana lang.  :)

Bro I'm talking about running the Video card in Linux. Buggy talaga ang ATI. But I have no experience with Nvidia and Linux. I might rest on my comfort zone running my HTPC on Windows 7 with the slow boot up around 1 minute  >:( or go the extra mile running an HTPC in Linux. Just doing the not-so-easy-way for experimentation purposes.

Somehow now I feel like Sheldon in The Big Bang Theory. Haha!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Aug 27, 2011 at 05:57 PM
Bro I'm talking about running the Video card in Linux. Buggy talaga ang ATI. But I have no experience with Nvidia and Linux. I might rest on my comfort zone running my HTPC on Windows 7 with the slow boot up around 1 minute  >:( or go the extra mile running an HTPC in Linux. Just doing the not-so-easy-way for experimentation purposes.

Somehow now I feel like Sheldon in The Big Bang Theory. Haha!

Medyo mabagal nga ang boot up ng E-350 because of the slow 1.6Ghz cpu pero minsan ko lang naman i-boot up. I use this as my torrent rig so very seldomn nakapatay. I'm just confused doon sa stuttering you get with the on board video for 1080p content while using XBMC, meron bang built in video player ang XBMC that doesn't use DXVA? I don't use XBMC kasi I just use the MPC-HC with DXVA enabled and no stuttering for 1080p I did encounter a few files that won't enable DXVA mode I think because of the way it was encoded .For those files meron chance ng stuttering because you are left with only the CPU for decoding. I don't really use this machine much for movie playing so my observations maybe proven false if I had used it more extensively for movies.

BTW, What Nvidia card are you planning to get?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 27, 2011 at 08:33 PM
Bro I'm talking about running the Video card in Linux. Buggy talaga ang ATI. But I have no experience with Nvidia and Linux. I might rest on my comfort zone running my HTPC on Windows 7 with the slow boot up around 1 minute  >:( or go the extra mile running an HTPC in Linux. Just doing the not-so-easy-way for experimentation purposes.
yes doc the fact that they can't do it in windows platform, sa linux pa kaya  ;D
ATi believer parin naman ako despite of .. :)
btw how quick is it to setup my iphone as the remote.  ;D

Somehow now I feel like Sheldon in The Big Bang Theory. Haha!
doc di pwede, si sheldon di mag-post yun sa hot or not thread    ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 27, 2011 at 11:03 PM
Medyo mabagal nga ang boot up ng E-350 because of the slow 1.6Ghz cpu pero minsan ko lang naman i-boot up. I use this as my torrent rig so very seldomn nakapatay. I'm just confused doon sa stuttering you get with the on board video for 1080p content while using XBMC, meron bang built in video player ang XBMC that doesn't use DXVA? I don't use XBMC kasi I just use the MPC-HC with DXVA enabled and no stuttering for 1080p I did encounter a few files that won't enable DXVA mode I think because of the way it was encoded .For those files meron chance ng stuttering because you are left with only the CPU for decoding. I don't really use this machine much for movie playing so my observations maybe proven false if I had used it more extensively for movies.

BTW, What Nvidia card are you planning to get?

Thanks.

I think XBMC is more of a powerhog than MPC-HC or KMPlayer. I am not having problems in playback with My ATI 6450 using Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit. It's just the bootup time that sucks.

Overkill ba ang GT520?  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 27, 2011 at 11:12 PM
yes doc the fact that they can't do it in windows platform, sa linux pa kaya  ;D
ATi believer parin naman ako despite of .. :)
btw how quick is it to setup my iphone as the remote.  ;D
doc di pwede, si sheldon di mag-post yun sa hot or not thread    ;D

No problems with ATI in Windows. Bagal na ng bootup in Windows even without an antivirus.  Gusto lang sumubok ng iba at umandar ng smooth ang XBMC in Linux.

Bro mahirap magsync ang Apple products sa Windows. I've tried it with my Ipad. Di nya mahanap ang Windows sa network. Before my update to the latest OS ok pa. Ngayon maski VNC, XBMC remote, Hippo remote ayaw na.

Sabagay di ko rin type ang girlfriend ni Sheldon. Definitely Hot...NOT!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Aug 28, 2011 at 12:27 AM
I think XBMC is more of a powerhog than MPC-HC or KMPlayer. I am not having problems in playback with My ATI 6450 using Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit. It's just the bootup time that sucks.

Overkill ba ang GT520?  ;D

I don't have much experience with Nvidia cards. I'm just basing this on Tom's Hardware Graphic's card hierarchy chart and yun equivalent ng GT 520 sa performance is yun ATI HD 3650. But this is more for gaming performance. Can't you try out your ATI 6450 first sa linux installation or wala talagang way to get ATI cards to work under linux?

No playback problems with XBMC and 6450 pero when using only the E-350 fusion's graphic chip matindi ang stuttering for 1080?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 28, 2011 at 01:01 AM
I don't have much experience with Nvidia cards. I'm just basing this on Tom's Hardware Graphic's card hierarchy chart and yun equivalent ng GT 520 sa performance is yun ATI HD 3650. But this is more for gaming performance. Can't you try out your ATI 6450 first sa linux installation or wala talagang way to get ATI cards to work under linux?

No playback problems with XBMC and 6450 pero when using only the E-350 fusion's graphic chip matindi ang stuttering for 1080?

Ok sir. i'll try Linux with the ATI card first. The first time I ran my 1080p videos and even some 720p material using the onboard ATI 6310, there was stuttering in some parts of the movie. I remember Scream 4 and Glee Encore. I only ran XBMC and didn't try any other player. Tried to tweak video settings but to no avail. The E-350 is being marketed as a low powered HTPC MOBO and theoretically should perform well even on full HD videos but I experienced otherwise.  It should perform well because it can beat a dual core atom in terms of fullHD playback based on some benchmark tests I've read.  The xtreamer Ultra having a dual core atom proc is being marketed to play full HD videos flawlessly so what more with the E-350.  I still need to read feedbacks though regarding this. 

This is my 2nd HTPC wherein the additional VC improved much on playback. In my readings the VC takes of some load from the proc to process videos so I surmise it should perform better with a dedicated GPU. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Aug 28, 2011 at 07:58 AM
Ok sir. i'll try Linux with the ATI card first. The first time I ran my 1080p videos and even some 720p material using the onboard ATI 6310, there was stuttering in some parts of the movie. I remember Scream 4 and Glee Encore. I only ran XBMC and didn't try any other player. Tried to tweak video settings but to no avail. The E-350 is being marketed as a low powered HTPC MOBO and theoretically should perform well even on full HD videos but I experienced otherwise.  It should perform well because it can beat a dual core atom in terms of fullHD playback based on some benchmark tests I've read.  The xtreamer Ultra having a dual core atom proc is being marketed to play full HD videos flawlessly so what more with the E-350.  I still need to read feedbacks though regarding this. 

This is my 2nd HTPC wherein the additional VC improved much on playback. In my readings the VC takes of some load from the proc to process videos so I surmise it should perform better with a dedicated GPU. 

The E-350 will only perform well as an HTPC platform if the video supports DXVA otherwise hirap talaga yun 1.6ghz to play 1080p high bitrate files. I remember the early days of MKV where I was using an AMD dual core 2.6ghz and the onboard video chip didn't support DXVA yet and I would encounter 1080p files that would stutter on certain parts. I wouldn't even bother with the Xtreamer Ultra especially kung sanay ka na to build your own HTPC and tweak it. With it's price you can build a better HTPC on your own and it doesn't even support DTS-MA and Dolby True HD bitstreaming.

Hopefully ok yun installation mo ng Linux with the ATI 6450 so you could save yourself from buying another VC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 28, 2011 at 08:20 AM
doc eb tayo, gusto ko ng hippo  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 28, 2011 at 03:23 PM
doc eb tayo, gusto ko ng hippo  ;D

Bro mukhang ang app na yan eh di sakin manggagaling... ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 28, 2011 at 03:27 PM
The E-350 will only perform well as an HTPC platform if the video supports DXVA otherwise hirap talaga yun 1.6ghz to play 1080p high bitrate files. I remember the early days of MKV where I was using an AMD dual core 2.6ghz and the onboard video chip didn't support DXVA yet and I would encounter 1080p files that would stutter on certain parts. I wouldn't even bother with the Xtreamer Ultra especially kung sanay ka na to build your own HTPC and tweak it. With it's price you can build a better HTPC on your own and it doesn't even support DTS-MA and Dolby True HD bitstreaming.

Hopefully ok yun installation mo ng Linux with the ATI 6450 so you could save yourself from buying another VC.

Installing the latest version of Linux Mint now.  Hopefully on the update, the hardware would be identified and the right drivers would be installed without me manually configuring the right driver.  I am keeping my fingers crossed.  Have read some material already and bookmarked it.  Hopefully everything goes well. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 29, 2011 at 07:52 PM
Just an update on my Linux install with XBMC.  I have installed the fglrx AtI driver after updating.  Was able to access the AtI Catalyst Center and reduced tearing (just realized that this is the term for those horizontal lines going up and down). There was no option though for video acceleration. I ticked enable VDPAU acceleration on XBMC which by the way didn't crash.  720p is ok but not perfect i.e. Occasional stuttering and 1080p was hanging.

I downloaded the official ATI driver from the website specific for HD6450 but I have to uninstall the fglrx driver first before loading the official driver.  The instructions are kinda tricky so I let it as is first.

As expected, the bootup time in Linux was cut in half.  Funny thing is, after installing Linux as dual boot with Win7, my windows boot up time was also cut in half.  ;)

I was able to solve the slow bootup time by just using the sleep function in Windows. Boot up now is fast within seconds lang.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Aug 29, 2011 at 10:24 PM
Just an update on my Linux install with XBMC.  I have installed the fglrx AtI driver after updating.  Was able to access the AtI Catalyst Center and reduced tearing (just realized that this is the term for those horizontal lines going up and down). There was no option though for video acceleration. I ticked enable VDPAU acceleration on XBMC which by the way didn't crash.  720p is ok but not perfect i.e. Occasional stuttering and 1080p was hanging.

I downloaded the official ATI driver from the website specific for HD6450 but I have to uninstall the fglrx driver first before loading the official driver.  The instructions are kinda tricky so I let it as is first.

As expected, the bootup time in Linux was cut in half.  Funny thing is, after installing Linux as dual boot with Win7, my windows boot up time was also cut in half.  ;)

I was able to solve the slow bootup time by just using the sleep function in Windows. Boot up now is fast within seconds lang.  ;D


That's good to hear at least you solved your slow booting up problem without buying a Nvidia video card. I really don't mind the slow Windows booting up time on my HTPC which is a bit faster that the E-350. What I would do is turn on the PC first then the TV and AVR by the time I switch to the HDMI input nasa desktop na ang display.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Aug 30, 2011 at 12:52 AM
That's good to hear at least you solved your slow booting up problem without buying a Nvidia video card. I really don't mind the slow Windows booting up time on my HTPC which is a bit faster that the E-350. What I would do is turn on the PC first then the TV and AVR by the time I switch to the HDMI input nasa desktop na ang display.
baliktad tayo james.
i switch on the AVR first then TV then my PC.
boot up time will not reach 30sec.
ang trip ata ni master doc yung fast as stand alone dvd/BD player
biru lang po ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 30, 2011 at 12:46 PM
baliktad tayo james.
i switch on the AVR first then TV then my PC.
boot up time will not reach 30sec.
ang trip ata ni master doc yung fast as stand alone dvd/BD player
biru lang po ;D
time is gold kay doc mel kaya ganun.
iirc bihira mag patay ng pc yan :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 30, 2011 at 06:00 PM
That's good to hear at least you solved your slow booting up problem without buying a Nvidia video card. I really don't mind the slow Windows booting up time on my HTPC which is a bit faster that the E-350. What I would do is turn on the PC first then the TV and AVR by the time I switch to the HDMI input nasa desktop na ang display.

Thanks for the tip and it saved me a lot of moolah.  BTW, if you turn on the PC first before the TV and AVR,  is the HDMI audio output routed to your AVR?  I've read in another thread that you need to power up your AVR or display where the HDMI is connected from your HTPC so that the PC would be able to identify that the audio should be outputted through HDMI.  I also experienced that when the PC is turned on first before the AVR, sometimes there is no sound output.

baliktad tayo james.
i switch on the AVR first then TV then my PC.
boot up time will not reach 30sec.
ang trip ata ni master doc yung fast as stand alone dvd/BD player
biru lang po ;D

I have my main HTPC on the other room with the AVR and PJ.  It is running on an AMD X2 3.2GHz and boot up is really fast.  Sing bilis lang ng power up ng PJ. 

Etong other HTPC ko running on an E-350 1.6GHz ang matagal mag bootup.  The first time I brought this home akala ko nga naghahang parati kaya panay reboot ko.  Nalaman ko lang na mabagal talaga mag-boot up nung naiwanan ko nakabukas nung nag-CR ako.  ;D

time is gold kay doc mel kaya ganun.
iirc bihira mag patay ng pc yan :)

Bro nagpapatay naman ako ng PC.  Downloads ko ngayon gabi nalang dahil sa Time of Use ng Meralco.  Tapos program nalang to power down at 8am.   ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Aug 30, 2011 at 06:21 PM
Thanks for the tip and it saved me a lot of moolah.  BTW, if you turn on the PC first before the TV and AVR,  is the HDMI audio output routed to your AVR?  I've read in another thread that you need to power up your AVR or display where the HDMI is connected from your HTPC so that the PC would be able to identify that the audio should be outputted through HDMI.  I also experienced that when the PC is turned on first before the AVR, sometimes there is no sound output.


Most often than not nakabukas na PC ko because ginagamit ng kuya ko sa surfing and I would just turn on the AVR and madetect kaagad na meron HDMI audio device na connected and will switch the audio output automatically to the HDMI. So no problems at all with turning on the PC first. I don't even need to turn on the TV kung playing music lang. I'm using a Yamaha AVR and ATI 5670 now and also 5770 before. Running on Win7 x64 pero I haven't tried XBMC yet.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Aug 30, 2011 at 07:04 PM
i also encounter the no audio out thru hdmi if you first turn on the pc before the tv or avr nung time na IGP pa ang gamit ko.ngayon ewan ko lang kasi nasanay nako to turn on avr then tv before the pc.try ko nga mamaya pag uwi. ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Aug 30, 2011 at 09:00 PM
pahingi nmn po konting advice doc mel, balik ati po ako from nvidia gtx260 to hd5670, ano po best settings sa CCC para malessen yung grayish ng black scenes? tapos may stuttering din po pag fast moving scenes? gamit ko po samsung 32" led tv w/ 120hz true motion,pati po kaya sa tv may settings din akong dapat baguhin? dati po kasi di masyadong halata yung pixelated na grayish color sa mga dark scenes sa gtx260
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 31, 2011 at 12:13 AM
Most often than not nakabukas na PC ko because ginagamit ng kuya ko sa surfing and I would just turn on the AVR and madetect kaagad na meron HDMI audio device na connected and will switch the audio output automatically to the HDMI. So no problems at all with turning on the PC first. I don't even need to turn on the TV kung playing music lang. I'm using a Yamaha AVR and ATI 5670 now and also 5770 before. Running on Win7 x64 pero I haven't tried XBMC yet.

Ah ok. I will try to experiment later with PC on then TV. Try XBMC. It has all the ease of use of an NMT but with better eye candy.  You can also download and use different add ons and programs for a complete HTPC experience. Highly recommended if you are going to use a PC remote. I've been using the card type CDRKing remote which in my opinion is the best partner for your HTPC with XBMC.

pahingi nmn po konting advice doc mel, balik ati po ako from nvidia gtx260 to hd5670, ano po best settings sa CCC para malessen yung grayish ng black scenes? tapos may stuttering din po pag fast moving scenes? gamit ko po samsung 32" led tv w/ 120hz true motion,pati po kaya sa tv may settings din akong dapat baguhin? dati po kasi di masyadong halata yung pixelated na grayish color sa mga dark scenes sa gtx260

Naku bro wag mo kong tanungin dyan as I only use the default settings. My HTPCs are hooked to a plasma and a full HD PJ and I haven't encountered those problems.  I have experienced stuttering in fast moving scenes when using PowerDVD but when I was have started using XBMC's internal player with DXVA enabled, smooth na ang video even at full HD. I have just copied the calibration settings of my TV and PJ from the net. Just google it baka meron din yung TV mo. Unless you have a calibration disc to optimize the PQ of your display.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Aug 31, 2011 at 01:01 AM
Ah ok. I will try to experiment later with PC on then TV. Try XBMC. It has all the ease of use of an NMT but with better eye candy.  You can also download and use different add ons and programs for a complete HTPC experience. Highly recommended if you are going to use a PC remote. I've been using the card type CDRKing remote which in my opinion is the best partner for your HTPC with XBMC.

I did try using one of those media front ends when I first installed win7 yun media portal. Pinaglaruan ko lang ok naman. Pero I don't keep a media library or have all my hard discs connected with a server or NAS. Recommend talaga ang XBMC with remote if you have a big library of file and kung marami ang gagamit at hindi sanay mag PC. Ako lang naman nag control ng HTPC playback so I go for the simple file and click mkvs played via MPC-HC with HDMI bitstreaming and full BDs via Total Media Theatre 5. I don't have a remote but I do have a wireless mouse and keyboard. Most often I just use the wired mouse and play the file go full screen sit on the couch and watch.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 31, 2011 at 01:08 AM
That's good to hear at least you solved your slow booting up problem without buying a Nvidia video card. I really don't mind the slow Windows booting up time on my HTPC which is a bit faster that the E-350. What I would do is turn on the PC first then the TV and AVR by the time I switch to the HDMI input nasa desktop na ang display.

Have just tried turning on the PC long before turning on my TV. Audio is present via HDMI. Thanks for the tip!  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: firestorm on Aug 31, 2011 at 01:47 AM
Have just tried turning on the PC long before turning on my TV. Audio is present via HDMI. Thanks for the tip!  :)

Good news looks like everything is shaping up nicely on your second HTPC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Aug 31, 2011 at 09:26 AM
Quote

Naku bro wag mo kong tanungin dyan as I only use the default settings. My HTPCs are hooked to a plasma and a full HD PJ and I haven't encountered those problems.  I have experienced stuttering in fast moving scenes when using PowerDVD but when I was have started using XBMC's internal player with DXVA enabled, smooth na ang video even at full HD. I have just copied the calibration settings of my TV and PJ from the net. Just google it baka meron din yung TV mo. Unless you have a calibration disc to optimize the PQ of your display.

thanks Doc, matry nga sa xbmc, pero ext player ko e mpc-hc din po.  salamat po sa tip,wala ako idea pagdating sa settings ng displays kasi,meron pala makokopyahan  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 31, 2011 at 10:06 AM
Good news looks like everything is shaping up nicely on your second HTPC.

Yup learned a lot from your suggestions. Thanks again!  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 31, 2011 at 10:07 AM
thanks Doc, matry nga sa xbmc, pero ext player ko e mpc-hc din po.  salamat po sa tip,wala ako idea pagdating sa settings ng displays kasi,meron pala makokopyahan  ;D

Yup pwede ka naman gumawa ng script para gawing external player ang MPC-HC sa XBMC.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rexFi on Aug 31, 2011 at 01:22 PM
Hi mga sir,

I am looking for something like this:

(http://i56.tinypic.com/9tj2f4.jpg)

This is an S/PDIF module bracket. Anyone you of guys know who or what/where are the shops that are selling these? ;D

Motherboard ko kasi meron namang pangSPDIF pero wala yang ganyan, yung I/O lang ang available.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 31, 2011 at 03:25 PM
Hi mga sir,

I am looking for something like this:

(http://i56.tinypic.com/9tj2f4.jpg)

This is an S/PDIF module bracket. Anyone you of guys know who or what/where are the shops that are selling these? ;D

Motherboard ko kasi meron namang pangSPDIF pero wala yang ganyan, yung I/O lang ang available.

Thanks!

try to pm this guy from tipidpc.com (http://www.tipidpc.com/ratings.php?username=XPC42)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rotciv818 on Sep 01, 2011 at 02:36 PM
hi sirs, i'm planning to go the htpc route na. I was given the ff specs for a low power budget htpc:
-intel i3 2100
-asus p8h67-mle mobo (w/ hdmi) mini atx board
- 4gb ddr3 kingston
- 1tb sata 7200 seagate
- inno 3d gt440 1gb video card
- casing: power logic slim
capable na po ba tong set-up for 1080p output? do i still need an aftermarket cpu cooler?
new po kasi sa htpc
total cost: 21050 may discount pa daw
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 01, 2011 at 08:35 PM
hi sirs, i'm planning to go the htpc route na. I was given the ff specs for a low power budget htpc:
-intel i3 2100
-asus p8h67-mle mobo (w/ hdmi) mini atx board
- 4gb ddr3 kingston
- 1tb sata 7200 seagate
- inno 3d gt440 1gb video card
- casing: power logic slim
capable na po ba tong set-up for 1080p output? do i still need an aftermarket cpu cooler?
new po kasi sa htpc
total cost: 21050 may discount pa daw

I think your specs is more than enough to run 1080p videos smoothly since you have a dedicated video card.  Mine has only an E-350 1.6GHz processor but can deliver.  You have a lot of options in choosing what media player would play your movies.  You do not need an aftermarket cpu cooler if you will just watch movies  with it. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Sep 01, 2011 at 09:26 PM
update on no audio problem tru hdmi if first switch on the htpc before the monitor or the avr.
problem solved if used discreet VC instead of IGP.
i wonder if the problem is isolated only to 880g chipset base mobo or same problem occur with 785 below.
anyone?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rexFi on Sep 02, 2011 at 12:49 AM
try to pm this guy from tipidpc.com (http://www.tipidpc.com/ratings.php?username=XPC42)

Hi thanks and I'm all set :)

Using power DVD I can now use SPDIF.

Next question would be, do you guys know how I can play Music using SPDIF?
Right  now I can only use this on movies with Dolby Digital etc. hehe TIA.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jzosa on Sep 02, 2011 at 06:10 AM
Hello. Newbie here.

Ask ko lang if ok na tong HTPC ko.

MSI GF615M- P33
AMD Phenom II x4 925 Processor
500gb Samsung HDD
NVIDIA GeForce  GT 220
4gb DDR3

Not sure if this is the right place to ask pero:

Gusto ko sana magstream ng movies from my PC to HDTV, kasi sa ngayon ganun ginagawa ko and I can say na PQ is much better compared to PS3 or from my external HDD. Ask ko lang kung makakastream ba ang XBMC to my LG LE5500? Kasi yung Nero Home Essentials nakakastream except for .m2ts files.

Sorry kung OT!

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: s2kov on Sep 02, 2011 at 06:59 AM
In which case you just need the cpu cooler?

I think your specs is more than enough to run 1080p videos smoothly since you have a dedicated video card.  Mine has only an E-350 1.6GHz processor but can deliver.  You have a lot of options in choosing what media player would play your movies.  You do not need an aftermarket cpu cooler if you will just watch movies  with it. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Sep 02, 2011 at 08:18 AM
Hello. Newbie here.

Ask ko lang if ok na tong HTPC ko.

MSI GF615M- P33
AMD Phenom II x4 925 Processor
500gb Samsung HDD
NVIDIA GeForce  GT 220
4gb DDR3

Not sure if this is the right place to ask pero:

Gusto ko sana magstream ng movies from my PC to HDTV, kasi sa ngayon ganun ginagawa ko and I can say na PQ is much better compared to PS3 or from my external HDD. Ask ko lang kung makakastream ba ang XBMC to my LG LE5500? Kasi yung Nero Home Essentials nakakastream except for .m2ts files.

Sorry kung OT!



a friend of mine used the 220 of Nvidia and as of him hirap sa playback so he switch to ATI5*** series
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rexFi on Sep 03, 2011 at 08:09 AM
Hi thanks and I'm all set :)

Using power DVD I can now use SPDIF.

Next question would be, do you guys know how I can play Music using SPDIF?
Right  now I can only use this on movies with Dolby Digital etc. hehe TIA.  ;D

If anybody else is wondering, the answer is XMBC. It did the trick. Picked the WASAPI: Realtek Digital Audio ... on the music output options.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 03, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Hi thanks and I'm all set :)

Using power DVD I can now use SPDIF.

Next question would be, do you guys know how I can play Music using SPDIF?
Right  now I can only use this on movies with Dolby Digital etc. hehe TIA.  ;D

What software are you using to play your movies and music? If you are using the same software for both media, and your audio output settings is set to spdif, most probably your music will be streamed through spdif.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rexFi on Sep 05, 2011 at 03:07 PM
What software are you using to play your movies and music? If you are using the same software for both media, and your audio output settings is set to spdif, most probably your music will be streamed through spdif.

Hi sir. Bale sa Music nung una is yung Zune software, then tinry ko sa Winamp, it did not work, I can't configure them to use the SPDIF. Only XMBC made me hear it through the SPDIF.

Now, do you guys know how I can create playlists on XMBC? It seems like I can only play per folder. ehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Sep 06, 2011 at 08:02 PM
Doc my idea po kayo bakit ganito yung screen pag .avi movie? gamit ko po shark007 codecs,natry ko na din po gamitin as video decoders yung gabest,haali,lav's,ffdshow & ms splitter pero bigo pa din po e  :'(

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa140/wengkapre/aviredscreen.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 07, 2011 at 07:07 AM
Doc my idea po kayo bakit ganito yung screen pag .avi movie? gamit ko po shark007 codecs,natry ko na din po gamitin as video decoders yung gabest,haali,lav's,ffdshow & ms splitter pero bigo pa din po e  :'(

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa140/wengkapre/aviredscreen.jpg)

What do you want to accomplish bro?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 07, 2011 at 07:15 AM
Hi sir. Bale sa Music nung una is yung Zune software, then tinry ko sa Winamp, it did not work, I can't configure them to use the SPDIF. Only XMBC made me hear it through the SPDIF.

Now, do you guys know how I can create playlists on XMBC? It seems like I can only play per folder. ehehe


These might be helpful:

http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Playlists
http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Music_Library
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Sep 07, 2011 at 09:50 AM
All my movies are playing well except those .avi movies po, lahat po sila red screen pag nagplay Doc  :'(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 07, 2011 at 12:56 PM
All my movies are playing well except those .avi movies po, lahat po sila red screen pag nagplay Doc  :'(

When you use other video players ganun din nangyayari?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 07, 2011 at 01:01 PM
When you use other video players ganun din nangyayari?

for sure, kung iisang codec lang ang gamit ng players.
ganyan yung dati nangyayari sa akin using kmplayer and media player classic.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Sep 07, 2011 at 02:05 PM
Meron po bang step by step instruction for installing xbmc for windows and linux?

Pa-share naman po. ;)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Sep 07, 2011 at 03:04 PM
When you use other video players ganun din nangyayari?


sa vlc kaya nya iplay sir,pero pag mkv or mp4 gray naman po color sa vlc
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: praktikal on Sep 07, 2011 at 03:20 PM
sa vlc kaya nya iplay sir,pero pag mkv or mp4 gray naman po color sa vlc

mag MKV ka na lang...  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Sep 07, 2011 at 03:29 PM
wala pa kasing mp4 or mkv copy yung na dl ko po e...ngayon lng uli kasi ako manonood sana ng .avi...pag di ko padin naayos,antay na lng ako mkv or mp4 copy
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: plapoy on Sep 07, 2011 at 03:32 PM
sa vlc kaya nya iplay sir,pero pag mkv or mp4 gray naman po color sa vlc

nangyari na to sakin sir.. try to update yung vlc nyo ng bago.. dl nyo na lang po sa site ng vlc..  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: praktikal on Sep 07, 2011 at 03:38 PM
wala pa kasing mp4 or mkv copy yung na dl ko po e...ngayon lng uli kasi ako manonood sana ng .avi...pag di ko padin naayos,antay na lng ako mkv or mp4 copy

ay mali! KMP pala. hahaha... 3 letters kasi pareho...  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Sep 07, 2011 at 04:01 PM
nangyari na to sakin sir.. try to update yung vlc nyo ng bago.. dl nyo na lang po sa site ng vlc..  :)

cge try ko mamaya bro, thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 07, 2011 at 04:31 PM
Meron po bang step by step instruction for installing xbmc for windows and linux?

Pa-share naman po. ;)


Setting up XBMC (http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Setting_Up_XBMC)

If you want XBMC to startup like an NMT install XBMC Live in your hard drive. Deretso na yan at wala ng dadaang OS.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rexFi on Sep 08, 2011 at 07:34 PM
Setting up XBMC (http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Setting_Up_XBMC)

If you want XBMC to startup like an NMT install XBMC Live in your hard drive. Deretso na yan at wala ng dadaang OS.


^ Pwede kaya yan for Dual Booth? K basahin ko rin yang Link.
thanks again...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Slaveknight on Nov 26, 2011 at 07:20 AM
Eto po yung HTPC specs ko mga boss. Hindi ganun ka lakas pero it serves me well for like almost 3 years now as my media PC. Mass Effect 2 lang currently nilalaro ko at crysis 2 yung mga games na di maxado cpu hog in a decent resolution with a very impressive frame rate. This is really a very cheap setup for me. :)

Amd Athlon II X3 440 3.0 ghz
Thermaltake 500 w new edition
Palit Geforce 9800gt 512 GDDR3
Asrock Motherboard N68-S
2gb kingston 800 mhz ram
160 gb Samsung HD
380 gb WD HD
500 gb external Touro Mobile

Here is my current XBMC Skin

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6398005787_24131fce39_b.jpg)

Here are my sample of screenshots taken from MPC-HC player with coreAVC output filter is MadVR ( for videophile like me ) Awesome quality btw :)

APOCALYPSE NOW
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6042/6402285101_7b6d4d0deb_b.jpg)

SAVING PRIVATE RYAN
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6226/6402284893_4959098813_b.jpg)

Suggest ko din mas maganda talaga pag my 24p output to avoid jitters. This will eliminate artifacts and gives the whole scenes watchable. Good tweaks will be useful

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lmerb on Dec 05, 2011 at 04:44 PM
Here's my set-up

Asrock E350
4 gig ram
32 gig ssd
apex itx case
tp link usb wifi
cdrking remote
windows 7 64
xbmc pre eden
eventghost.

anyone using this remote?
(http://www.cdrking.com/apanel/modules/products/images/large/1845_4.jpg)

How can i emulate the mouse button as arrow keys? hindi nakikita ang mouse events sa eventghost.
But all the other button are working just fine.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 05, 2011 at 10:44 PM

anyone using this remote?
(http://www.cdrking.com/apanel/modules/products/images/large/1845_4.jpg)

How can i emulate the mouse button as arrow keys? hindi nakikita ang mouse events sa eventghost.
But all the other button are working just fine.
not sure kung cdrking ang gamit ni nerveblocker, pero parang ganyan yung nakita ko na gamit nya.
but IIRC he's familiar with eventghost :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lmerb on Dec 06, 2011 at 07:10 AM
thanks

Nweis. I bought another remote also from cdrking this time w/o the mouse feature. Its not listed on cdrkings website.
This one's works like a charm although you need to disable couple of features on windows due to conflict. You also need to program the remote with eventghost.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: musicgeek on Dec 06, 2011 at 07:33 AM
Here's my set-up

Asrock E350
4 gig ram
32 gig ssd
apex itx case
tp link usb wifi
cdrking remote
windows 7 64
xbmc pre eden
eventghost.

anyone using this remote?
(http://www.cdrking.com/apanel/modules/products/images/large/1845_4.jpg)

How can i emulate the mouse button as arrow keys? hindi nakikita ang mouse events sa eventghost.
But all the other button are working just fine.


I'm also using this type of remote. It's an MCE remote that emulates keyboard strokes. For XBMC, you can map the keys by altering the keyboard.xml that can be found in the userdata or program files/XBMC folder. Not sure if it will work with the XBMC version that you have. What I saw working with it is the Dharma version. Just google it to be sure. Boxee media player kasi gamit ko so I cannot totally compare it though the framework of Boxee is also XBMC. What I did was to map the numeric keys to work as arrow keys. Pati yung pause, play, stop, etc dun ko na din minap. Btw, you'll be needing the Media Center mapping table that shows what command maps to what button (e.g. Picture button, the yellow one actually sends ctrl+i) or a program called "showkey" to determine the actual keypresses being emulated by the remote on the fly.

Btw, I've tried IR "intercept" softwares like Eventghost, Intelliremote, LMkeymap but for some reason, it didn't work with this remote. If you only need it for specific purpose like controlling your media center, the direct keymap through the xml is the way to go without any software. Although not all keys might work. You can also launch programs through shortcut hotkeys. For me, I've used the "DVD Menu" button to launch Boxee.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: musicgeek on Dec 06, 2011 at 08:16 AM
thanks

Nweis. I bought another remote also from cdrking this time w/o the mouse feature. Its not listed on cdrkings website.
This one's works like a charm although you need to disable couple of features on windows due to conflict. You also need to program the remote with eventghost.

Can you post pictures of the new remote you've bought w/c is not listed in CDR King website Sir? I'm interested to know if its better than the TM-RC04 we're discussing. tia.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 06, 2011 at 08:47 AM
(http://www.cdrking.com/apanel/modules/products/images/large/1870_1.jpg)
This is what I am using for XBMC.  All the needed functions are already in this remote.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: musicgeek on Dec 06, 2011 at 10:05 AM
^ @nerveblocker,

Have you remapped the remote / configured with eventghost or it worked out of the box with XBMC?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 06, 2011 at 10:30 AM
^ @nerveblocker,

Have you remapped the remote / configured with eventghost or it worked out of the box with XBMC?

I don't use Eventghost.  Out of the box the remote will work in XBMC. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: musicgeek on Dec 06, 2011 at 12:42 PM
Here's my HTPC setup by the way. It's "just" a netbook ;) :

ASUS Eee PC 1201PN
Intel atom N450
Nvidia ion2 graphics card
2GB DDR2 RAM
250GB Hard Drive
Windows 7 Starter
HDMI output
Boxee media suite
uTorrent client
Mipony filesharing site download manager (filesonic, fileserve, etc)
Connectify (improvised "common home network" setup through Windows 7 Wifi network sharing)
Android Phone USB Tethering or Smart Bro dongle (for internet connectivity)
CDR King TM-RM04 remote control
1TB Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex Ultraportable Drive

Basically, the HTPC is hooked up to my Sony Bravia HDTV and I just remotely administer it using my IPAD connected to a common home network. With this setup, I'm able to search the internet through my tablet pc and download movies into the HTPC using uTorrent remote access. Same goes for filesharing sites like filesonic, this time using another cool software called Mipony. The Boxee media suite likewise can be controlled using Ipad applications like "Reemote for Boxee". This lets me browse the media content of my HTPC and select the movie I want to be played through IPAD control. This plays unto the TV with a few touches. The "Mobile Mouse" for Ipad serves as the mouse+keyboard to control the HTPC desktop.

I know some of the capabilities are built in already in some NMTs but the flexibility which the HTPC setup offers e.g. codec upgrade, diversified media suite options, and interoperability, are something I'm fond of having instead of a "canned" setup. So goes the decision of buying the P9,500 Asus Eee PC and a couple more bucks for its accessories against an NMT ;D

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 06, 2011 at 01:57 PM
Musicgeek- I'm just wondering if you can play HD contents on your EeePC setup Or are you just playing avi files?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lmerb on Dec 06, 2011 at 03:20 PM
Quote
Can you post pictures of the new remote you've bought w/c is not listed in CDR King website Sir? I'm interested to know if its better than the TM-RC04 we're discussing. tia.

sir its pretty much like this one.

http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=File:Unbranded_remote.jpg (http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=File:Unbranded_remote.jpg)

i map the power button with the xbmc's shutdown menu using eventghost.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: musicgeek on Dec 06, 2011 at 05:04 PM
Musicgeek- I'm just wondering if you can play HD contents on your EeePC setup Or are you just playing avi files?

It can handle HD content inclusive of huge MKV files. The netbook screen resolution itself is only 1366 x 768 but it can play full HD / 1080p to an external output. It has the NVIDIA ION graphics card which handles HD media quite well. Same card used in multimedia laptops. Main drawback of this netbook is the relatively weak Intel atom N450 1.66GHZ processor. But it doesn't matter for movie playing purposes as its within that CPU resource. So far so good naman.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 07, 2011 at 03:02 AM
not sure kung cdrking ang gamit ni nerveblocker, pero parang ganyan yung nakita ko na gamit nya.
but IIRC he's familiar with eventghost :)
MY BAD!! si gunblade pala  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: musicgeek on Dec 07, 2011 at 12:02 PM
sir its pretty much like this one.

http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=File:Unbranded_remote.jpg (http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=File:Unbranded_remote.jpg)

i map the power button with the xbmc's shutdown menu using eventghost.

Does this have mouse feature or directional keys lang talaga? How much does this one costs?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lmerb on Dec 07, 2011 at 07:40 PM
directional keys lang. cost 380 pesos.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: musicgeek on Dec 08, 2011 at 01:18 PM
Here's my set-up

Asrock E350
4 gig ram
32 gig ssd
apex itx case
tp link usb wifi
cdrking remote
windows 7 64
xbmc pre eden
eventghost.

anyone using this remote?
(http://www.cdrking.com/apanel/modules/products/images/large/1845_4.jpg)

How can i emulate the mouse button as arrow keys? hindi nakikita ang mouse events sa eventghost.
But all the other button are working just fine.

@lmerb,
For what its worth since you've bought a new remote with directional keys, I've found a solution for your "old" MCE remote control using autohotkey. Basically, there's a script that was developed for Boxee that converts mouse movement into arrow key presses. I've tested it with Boxee and works fine. It should work with XBMC with minor script modification though I haven't dipped into that yet. Hope this helps anyone who has a remote with mouse instead of arrow keys like the one posted here. This will also be useful for using a wireless mouse as an improvised remote control with the ease of navigation as with the directional keys.

http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic54525.html

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lmerb on Dec 08, 2011 at 06:55 PM
Thanks po will try this one. Sir have you noticed that the stop and pause button share the same key?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: musicgeek on Dec 08, 2011 at 11:30 PM
Yup. Pause and stop both triggers ctrl+shift+s. Does your new remote behave the same way? You can just remap other buttons like record as stop or pause button via autohotkey or xbmc keyboard.xml if that's the case.

For those of you who's going to use the script I posted earlier with the mce remote, you need to change "movementStep" from 100 to optimal value of 3, replace "BOXEE" to "XBMC" both are found in the autohotkey script; separately untick "enable mouse" in xbmc system settings.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lmerb on Dec 09, 2011 at 06:10 PM
no. new remote has only one button for pause and play action. which works great. no configuration needed.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lmerb on Dec 09, 2011 at 06:11 PM
my only issue with this remote is the wrong spelling of "replay" w/c is repay in the remote.. LOL
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lmerb on Dec 09, 2011 at 06:22 PM
thanks for the script it work great. the play button is also the pause button.. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: musicgeek on Dec 11, 2011 at 09:12 PM
Have you tried to remap the power button from standby / suspend to other functions perhaps have it as shutdown key?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Dec 11, 2011 at 10:41 PM
a new board to replace my busted Emaxx 780G

Processor:  Athlon II X2 240 2.8ghz
Motherboard:  Asus M4A785D-M Pro
Mems:  Geil 3 gb DDR2 800
OS HDD:  40GB Seagate IDE (8 y.o. already)
HDD:  1TB Hitachi SATA
PSU:  HEC WinPower 550W
VC:  Powercolor HD4770 512mb DDR5  
Chassis: Lancool K56

(http://pic.xfastest.com/sxs112/ASUS/M4A785D-M-M-PRO-OPEN.old/001.jpg)


 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lmerb on Dec 18, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Have you tried to remap the power button from standby / suspend to other functions perhaps have it as shutdown key?

yes sir i use eventghost. im using windows 7 ultimate 64. you will need to disable windows suspend on keypress action.
go to control panel -> power option -> choose what the power buttons do -> select do nothing

now you can map the remote's power button to xbmc's shutdown menu

hope it helps
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: musicgeek on Dec 19, 2011 at 09:45 PM
Thanks lmerb. Will give it a try. I saw an autohotkey version that does the remapping. Is this script similar to what you worked out with eventghost?

Code: [Select]
;Autohotkey script "Set standby button to ALT+F4"
;=================================================================================

OnMessage(0x218, "WM_POWERBROADCAST")

WM_POWERBROADCAST(wParam, lParam)
{
   If wParam=0
   {
      Send, !{F4}
      Return  0x424D5144
   }
   Else Return
}
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Dec 24, 2011 at 09:26 AM
has anyone tested the power consumption of their HTPC?...i current have an Htpc but im contemplating on building a low power htpc...need advice thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Dec 24, 2011 at 09:52 AM
yes.. my htpc with videocard = 75watts
my low power htpc 21watts
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: musicgeek on Dec 24, 2011 at 09:57 AM
^ @yygoob

If it's a serves you well as a point of comparison, I'm using a netbook with HDMI output as an HTPC (ASUS Eee PC, nvidia ion graphics card, intel atom N450, 2gb ram, 250gb hdd). This unit only consumes around 15 to 24wh.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 24, 2011 at 01:07 PM
has anyone tested the power consumption of their HTPC?...i current have an Htpc but im contemplating on building a low power htpc...need advice thanks

my gaming htpc consumes 415 watts + / - 10 using omni watt meter, so i bought an nmt and use my pc solely for gaming only  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 24, 2011 at 03:33 PM
has anyone tested the power consumption of their HTPC?...i current have an Htpc but im contemplating on building a low power htpc...need advice thanks

I suggest getting an A6 or an A8 based HTPC if you're after simplicity, low power consumption and good PQ. These APUs have enough muscle to handle the far majority of current video formats plus post-processing.

Lower power APUs can still do the job (and would save some more power in the process), but they barely have headroom for background tasks or postprocessing.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Dec 24, 2011 at 05:11 PM
sir wildfire 415 on idle? or loaded.. grabe... akin 75watts lang idle around 200 loaded (sobrang minsan lang magloaded pc ko.. pag ginamitan ko lang ng artificial stuff pang load)

ano laman niyan??
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 24, 2011 at 06:02 PM
sir wildfire 415 on idle? or loaded.. grabe... akin 75watts lang idle around 200 loaded (sobrang minsan lang magloaded pc ko.. pag ginamitan ko lang ng artificial stuff pang load)

ano laman niyan??

idle un  :D

ito laman http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,133191.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,133191.0.html)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Dec 24, 2011 at 11:48 PM
hehe loaded pala.. kaya pala.. may katakawan...

heres my setups:

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2556ef7.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/fwksg3.jpg)

Gaming HTPC (75watts idle... around 200watts loaded)
intel e7200
gigabyte g31 matx mobo
4gb ddr2 team elite
seagate 1.5TB
palit gtx460
LG dvdrw
ocz 700w
scythe Shuriken
enzotech chipset cooler
Coolermaster htpc case
55" LG 3D led tv (only 80 to 85watts)
(hoping to upgrade this to an i3 sandy bridge.. or ivy league if magka budget:D)

(http://i52.tinypic.com/9lennr.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2uhrdlk.jpg)
Server Torrent Rig HTPC (passive cooling) (around 21watts idle 45watts loaded)
intel i3-2100T
gigabyte h67 itx mobo
4gb ddr3 OCZ
3X samsung 2TB HD
pico psu
Thermalright HR-02 cpu coole
custom copper chipset cooler
custom acrylic case
55" Toshiba led tv
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 25, 2011 at 05:48 AM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/9lennr.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2uhrdlk.jpg)
Server Torrent Rig HTPC (passive cooling) (around 21watts idle 45watts loaded)
intel i3-2100T
gigabyte h67 itx mobo
4gb ddr3 OCZ
3X samsung 2TB HD
pico psu
Thermalright HR-02 cpu coole
custom copper chipset cooler
custom acrylic case
55" Toshiba led tv

Galing nung ITX build! Napagkasya niyo pati yung HDDs. Low noise na at maliit pa. SSD na lang, noiseless na. ;)

Kayo po gumawa nung acrylic?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Dec 25, 2011 at 09:07 AM
Thanks for the replies guys n merry christmas to all,
i was contemplating on amd 350 or llano. The problem is it cant do 3d

sir AC 
ang ganda ng setup nyo pwede magpagawa. . He he. San nyo po na bili
yung 2100t wala ksi akong makita puro regular 2100 lang thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Dec 25, 2011 at 11:18 AM
thanks guys

sir stagea.. yes... custom made po yung... acrylic.. using 1/4" thick acrylic... was wishing nga sana na mas tight sana ang bends.. kayalang wala ako acrylic bender.. i just used heatgun.. kaya medyo wide ang bends.. hehe

sir yygoob..
bought it sa us po... imho... mas matipid lang yan ng konti kesa sa i3-2100... if i were to buy again (now).. i would have gotten the G620 (better value for money... wala pa yan nung bumili ako eh).. and i think it will do the job well naman

btw... im not sure if kaya ng G620 ng 3D but check niyo din po...
G620 (ofcourse i3-2100 would perform better but... overkill)
+h61 or h67 mobos (i think i have seen H61s at around 2400php @matx form factor... )

if your wondering why iba binuo ko and iba sinusuggest ko.. its just because wala pang H61 noon..

regarding magpagawa... hehe i think you can do it yourself.. im a novice in diy...
it not that hard to make.. just takes a lot of time.. specially in preparation of your materials...
ang pinaka masarap.. after niyo mabuo is... yung satisfaction na may nagawa kayo with your bare hands:D

1)buy acrylic... i think nasa 600 pesos worth yan... but may allowance... so tinabi ko nalang iba..
2)count screws/lockwashers/nuts yan.. siguro 20-30 pesos lang lahat..


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 25, 2011 at 12:43 PM
thanks guys

sir stagea.. yes... custom made po yung... acrylic.. using 1/4" thick acrylic... was wishing nga sana na mas tight sana ang bends.. kayalang wala ako acrylic bender.. i just used heatgun.. kaya medyo wide ang bends.. hehe

sir yygoob..
bought it sa us po... imho... mas matipid lang yan ng konti kesa sa i3-2100... if i were to buy again (now).. i would have gotten the G620 (better value for money... wala pa yan nung bumili ako eh).. and i think it will do the job well naman

btw... im not sure if kaya ng G620 ng 3D but check niyo din po...
G620 (ofcourse i3-2100 would perform better but... overkill)
+h61 or h67 mobos (i think i have seen H61s at around 2400php @matx form factor... )

if your wondering why iba binuo ko and iba sinusuggest ko.. its just because wala pang H61 noon..

regarding magpagawa... hehe i think you can do it yourself.. im a novice in diy...
it not that hard to make.. just takes a lot of time.. specially in preparation of your materials...
ang pinaka masarap.. after niyo mabuo is... yung satisfaction na may nagawa kayo with your bare hands:D

1)buy acrylic... i think nasa 600 pesos worth yan... but may allowance... so tinabi ko nalang iba..
2)count screws/lockwashers/nuts yan.. siguro 20-30 pesos lang lahat..




Nice. :) Yes, the G620 can handle 3D as well.

The spaghetti cables remind me of my desktops. :P Kung neat-freak ka, try mo to bundle them together then wrap with braided sleeving. It's a nice conversation piece kasi, lalo na at see through siya. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 25, 2011 at 12:49 PM
hehe loaded pala.. kaya pala.. may katakawan...

heres my setups:

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2556ef7.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/fwksg3.jpg)

Gaming HTPC (75watts idle... around 200watts loaded)
intel e7200
gigabyte g31 matx mobo
4gb ddr2 team elite
seagate 1.5TB
palit gtx460
LG dvdrw
ocz 700w
scythe Shuriken
enzotech chipset cooler
Coolermaster htpc case
55" LG 3D led tv (only 80 to 85watts)
(hoping to upgrade this to an i3 sandy bridge.. or ivy league if magka budget:D)

(http://i52.tinypic.com/9lennr.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2uhrdlk.jpg)
Server Torrent Rig HTPC (passive cooling) (around 21watts idle 45watts loaded)
intel i3-2100T
gigabyte h67 itx mobo
4gb ddr3 OCZ
3X samsung 2TB HD
pico psu
Thermalright HR-02 cpu coole
custom copper chipset cooler
custom acrylic case
55" Toshiba led tv

ganda astig ung torrent rig ah, anong model nung coolermaster mo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Dec 25, 2011 at 01:20 PM
hehe.. oonga po eh sir stagea.. :D hehe rumblewires...
have been looking for short sata cables eh.. wala po ako mahanap.. yung.. psu naman.. medyo natakot ako galawin.. baka after imod... hindi na gumana..
may good friend ako.. na sabay kami gumawa ng setup.. same specs halos kayalang ibang case.. sakanya naman aluminum ang sides.. binigyan ako ng short sata cables.. ang gaganda pa naman kayalang a little too short naman.. hehehe may mod po ba magagawa to shorten the sata cables?
btw.. ito po yung mod ng friend ko :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/phoebeee/2011-08-12221918.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/phoebeee/2011-08-12221932.jpg)
my friend's rig
intel i3-2100T (same)
gigabyte h67 itx mobo (same)
4gb ddr3 OCZ (same)
3X samsung 2TB HD (same)
pico psu (same)
Noctua NH-C12 cpu cooler
custom copper chipset cooler (same) actually.. donate niya din yung akin.. hehe.. malaking block yun na copper na hinati namin..
custom acrylic/aluminum case

thank you sir wildfire:D
CM Media 262 po
may black and silver niyan.. ang tagal ko nag mimini mini minimoe sa shop... i think... tama naman pinili ko.. hehe

http://www.coolermaster.com/upload/download/221/files/CMMedia262_ProductSheet.pdf
hehe.. fell inlove nung nakita ko eh... it was mga 2006... matx cases pa ginagamit saatin pang htpc.. had to hand carry it home buti nakalusot..
medyo nagalit dad ko eh.. nung pag balik ko sa hotel.. may dala akong box na malaki.. hehe "pano natin uuwiin yan?!" if theres a will theres a way... :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 25, 2011 at 02:01 PM
Ganda din nung build ng friend mo, sir AC. :) Parang heatsink pala nung HDDs yung isang side. Yung aluminum side sa kabila pwedeng gamitin yun as passive radiator by bolting-on water blocks or heatpipes. ;)

Ang tagal lumabas ng Trinity APU. Balak ko din gamitin for a low power build. Kung sakali, baka Ivy Bridge na lang.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Dec 25, 2011 at 02:06 PM
actually hard disk coolers po yang ginamit niya sa sides... now he has 3x 2tb on it.. hehe
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,142360.0.html
(http://i54.tinypic.com/3466b78.jpg)
ito po yan actually..
balak po talaga namin is may heatpipe from papunta sa sides.. tapos use the hard disk coolers as heat radiators.. kayalang ang hirap po.. kaya we decided to use cpu coolers nalang..
kahit yun akin ganun din po talaga plano ko.. kayalang ang hirap po to work with aluminum.. matigas... kaya decided.. plastic nalang po..

btw.. ano po ang trinity apu? upcoming model yan ng amd?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 25, 2011 at 07:21 PM
may mod po ba magagawa to shorten the sata cables?

thank you sir wildfire:D
CM Media 262 po
may black and silver niyan.. ang tagal ko nag mimini mini minimoe sa shop... i think... tama naman pinili ko.. hehe

ung customized sata cables meron si camshow sa tipidpc.

good choice nga ung CM Media 262
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 25, 2011 at 07:24 PM
actually hard disk coolers po yang ginamit niya sa sides... now he has 3x 2tb on it.. hehe

I see. Akala ko Aluminum heatsinks na cut to size para maging sides ng casing.

btw.. ano po ang trinity apu? upcoming model yan ng amd?

Yes, supposedly eh successor yan ng current Llano APUs. I'm fine with building an HTPC around an A8 (Llano). Pero baka lumabas na din yung Trinity, and that should be better.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Dec 26, 2011 at 07:07 AM
malapit na ba lumabas yang trinity n ivy?...
sir AC pati ba yung picopsu sa US din nabili? mukhang wala dito pinas nagbenta nyan
baka pag ibang PSU gamitin mas malakas sa kuryente
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 26, 2011 at 07:55 AM
malapit na ba lumabas yang trinity n ivy?...
sir AC pati ba yung picopsu sa US din nabili? mukhang wala dito pinas nagbenta nyan
baka pag ibang PSU gamitin mas malakas sa kuryente

Ivy Bridge was rumored to launch in January (since PC makers have been demoing products with it since mid this year), but it was pushed back to what seems to be an April 2012 release. Trinity is supposed to launch in March 2012.

The current crop of Sandy Bridge and Llano chips are more than capable of delivering great HTPC performance. Ivy Bridge and Trinity will likely provide incremental improvements in terms of features, performance and power consumption, if you are willing to wait.

Maraming efficient PSUs. It doesn't have to be in a small format. Generally, most PC PSUs operate most efficiently between 50% to 75% of max capacity. Selecting a PSU that would stay within or close to this zone for most of your tasks, without exceeding the PSU's capacity during peak loads is the most power-efficient way to build a rig. Choosing an 80 Plus certified power supply can also help.

Nelson's uATX Sandy Bridge desktop with 2 HDDs, a modem and a BD drive consumed less than 30w during movie playback when I was testing it, if I remember right. Idle is around 20w. That's pretty close to a notebook's power consumption. This is made from affordable off the shelf parts.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Dec 26, 2011 at 10:07 AM
Uy dapat pla mabisita si sir nelson at matanong ang specs nung htpc nya!! ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Dec 26, 2011 at 10:17 AM
ahh.. i see.. sir stagea... yan pala next gen... hindi ako nag babasa about amd eh... hehe intel fanboy ako eh.. but sa torrent rig.. muntik ako mag E350.. hehe

sir yygoob..
yes.. galing din po us.. nung una nagdududa ako sa pico.. kasi ang liit... natakot ako baka bumigay agad... so far.. so good naman its running 24/7... but medyo mainit siya according sa infrared thermometer ko.. lumalagpas ng 50deg celsius..

if balak niyo po bumuo... and gusto niyo efficient.. try niyo po.. aurum psus... abot yata 90% efficiency and priced friendly po sila..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 26, 2011 at 10:20 AM
Uy dapat pla mabisita si sir nelson at matanong ang specs nung htpc nya!! ;D

Entry level gear lang sa alala ko.

Eto ata gamit niya:
Intel G620 (Processor) + Asrock H61M/U3S3 (Motherboard) + 2 pcs. Kingston 4GB PC3-10600 DIMMs (RAM) + WD Blue 500GB (System Drive) + WD Green 2TB (Data Drive) + Samsung BD-ROM (Optical Drive) + Thermaltake TR2-450P (PSU) + Cooler Master RC-343 (Chassis)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 26, 2011 at 10:23 AM
ahh.. i see.. sir stagea... yan pala next gen... hindi ako nag babasa about amd eh... hehe intel fanboy ako eh.. but sa torrent rig.. muntik ako mag E350.. hehe

Maayos naman both for me. I run both AMD and Intel, ATI and Nvidia, at iba ibang brand ng components. Naeenjoy ko yung may variety.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rexFi on Dec 30, 2011 at 01:25 PM
Question guys, I use the SPDIF on my PC, pero bumibitaw yung sounds when I'm watching a movie, Dolby or DTS, biglang nawawala yung sound then magkakaron uli..

kakairita ;D

you guys think this is a problem with my Cable?

I use a fiber optic cable, yung mura lang, and use Cyberlink PDVD for playback.

thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 30, 2011 at 04:23 PM
Question guys, I use the SPDIF on my PC, pero bumibitaw yung sounds when I'm watching a movie, Dolby or DTS, biglang nawawala yung sound then magkakaron uli..

kakairita ;D

you guys think this is a problem with my Cable?

I use a fiber optic cable, yung mura lang, and use Cyberlink PDVD for playback.

thanks.

Try a different cable muna or at least ensure na seated properly siya. Pag nasubok mo na and ganun pa din, baka clocking or syncing issue. Pwede din buffer underrun. Yung spdif out mo, does it interface via usb, via pci/pci-e, or integrated sa mainboard?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rexFi on Dec 30, 2011 at 06:14 PM
^ Integrated sa mainboard. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 01, 2012 at 04:28 PM
^ Integrated sa mainboard. :)

Does it happen sa start lang ng movie, or throughout the movie nangyayari?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rexFi on Jan 02, 2012 at 03:05 PM
All throughout, pero depende, minsan sa isang movie hindi nangyayari. parang moody ba.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 02, 2012 at 06:18 PM
Mga bros,

Pa help naman po planning to build a HTPC.... so far ito po kasi yung napupusuan ko...

http://www.manli.com/en/product/t2-amd-fusion

E350 po yung board na yan... maganda kasi yung review ng E350 and pede sa light gaming and low power consumption.

Baka po may masuggest kayo na ibang build ang hanap ko kasi HTPC na pede light gamit and at the same time low power consumption. Budget nasa 15k. dapat mag Xtreamer Ultra ako kaso parang over-priced siya.

How you can help me... Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 02, 2012 at 06:51 PM
if i were to build a system now
i would probably go G620


G620 2700 or i3-2100 4900
asrock H61 matx 2400
ram 4gb 2000
hd.. siguro 2tb kasi htpc.. i heard bumaba nadaw samsung @4500
generic case w/psu.. around 1000

G620 total 12500
i3-2100 total 14700
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 02, 2012 at 06:56 PM
if i were to build a system now
i would probably go G620


G620 2700 or i3-2100 4900
asrock H61 matx 2400
ram 4gb 2000
hd.. siguro 2tb kasi htpc.. i heard bumaba nadaw samsung @4500
generic case w/psu.. around 1000

G620 total 12500
i3-2100 total 14700


anong difference ng g620 sa i3? pede na ba sa gaming ito ang 1080p na movies?? hmmm gusto ko kasi maliit lang para portable siya parang NMT style pero pc pa rin at the same time...

yung MANLI kasi maliit lang talaga.. and portable... also di ba parang mahirap maginvest ng generic na psu?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 02, 2012 at 07:17 PM
1080p yes.. kaya po ng setup na yan.. G620 or i3...
lamang i3 ng konti lang... hehe similar chip yan... hanap niyo nalang po sa wiki or google difference ng chip..
games.. depende.... light games.. yes... heavy.. malabo

footprint.. malaki yan.. matx... pwede ka kumuha itx.. pero dagdag cost po.. mas mahal itx mobos eh.. pero most of them H67.. so.. may usb3 etc etc

manli... parang hindi po yata available yang E350 satin.. available na lianli dito sa alam ko... atom525 nasa 5500..
nice small unit but not guaranteed to play all your 1080p... gma3100 lang po kasi
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 02, 2012 at 07:27 PM
Mabagal po ang E350 imho, maski yung E450 bitin pa din unless disable mo most ng post-processing features. It'd still be better than a typical media tank/player in this configuration, pero since mag HTPC ka na din lang, parang mas sulit na to go for something that'd give you a much better experience.

The G620 is like a lower-clocked i3, less Hyperthreading. The G620 does HTPC work more comfortably, handles 3D, and will likely be of use for a longer period of time.

As for gameability, saying that the E350 is gameable is like stating that an underbone bike is raceable. It's something relative. The E350/E450 APUs aren't bad, they're just too limiting in terms of performance (imo).

If you want to go the AMD route, check out the A6-3500 APU. It's significantly more powerful than the E350, and is far more gameable (if that's what you're after).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 02, 2012 at 07:33 PM
Mabagal po ang E350 imho, maski yung E450 bitin pa din unless disable mo most ng post-processing features. The G620 is like a lower-clocked i3, less Hyperthreading. The G620 does HTPC work more comfortably, handles 3D, and will likely be of use for a longer period of time.

As for gameability, saying that the E350 is gameable is like stating that an underbone bike is raceable. It's something relative. The E350/E450 APUs aren't bad, they're just too limiting in terms of performance (imo).

If you want to go the AMD route, check out the A6-3500 APU. It's significantly more powerful than the E350, and is far more gameable (if that's what you're after).

thanks@AC

@Stagea how about power consumption?? and how much it will cost to build a A6 unit
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 02, 2012 at 08:02 PM
thanks@AC

@Stagea how about power consumption?? and how much it will cost to build a A6 unit

Not much separates a Pentium G620, an i3-2100 and an A6-3500 when it comes to power consumption. These are fairly efficient processors. Expect around 20w at idle, and between 30 and 40w during movie playback.

AMD A6-3500 APU - 4250
Asrock A55M-HVS - 2880
Kingston 2 x 2GB DDR3-1600 - 1300
Samsung 2TB HDD - 4500
Cooler Master ERC-371K-KWR460 - 3000

Lalabas yan ng 15930. Large casing yan with a good power supply. Kung gusto mo maliit na casing with the same power consumption, magdadagdag ka pa ng konti. Mahal po kasi ang mga efficient na power supply. Mga generic and cheaper branded power supplies are quite inefficient, kaya be particular po diyan kung low power consumption ang habol niyo.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 02, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Asrock A55M-HVS - 2880

Stageaness, a bit ot sa topic.  pansin ko when i was copying files kila DMF, effecient yung pag copy ko ng files, dahil ba dito yun "ASRock XFast USB Technology - Faster Than Your Imagination!" (http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=a55m-hvs), or im just imagining things  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 02, 2012 at 09:29 PM
Stageaness, a bit ot sa topic.  pansin ko when i was copying files kila DMF, effecient yung pag copy ko ng files, dahil ba dito yun "ASRock XFast USB Technology - Faster Than Your Imagination!" (http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=a55m-hvs), or im just imagining things  ;D


Effective yung XFast ek-ek na yan sa experience ko, especially with USB 2.0 devices... whether you're using the USB 2.0 or the USB 3.0 ports. I can get 40MB/s+ transfers sa mga meron nyan, which is awesome for USB 2.0. Pero siyempre mas mabilis pa din yung USB 3.0. Medyo madami akong PC na ginagamit, pero yan talaga ang pinaka mabilis sa USB 2.0 transfers na nasubok ko. Na-experience din ni Paul yan sa PC ni DMF, nung kinabit nya sa USB 2.0 port yung HDD nya, akala nya sa USB 3.0 nya nakabit kasi mabilis yung transfer (USB 3.0 yung HDD nya).

Yung 3x USB Power Boost ng Gigabyte is effective din. Yung mga devices na usually kailangan ng dalawang USB sockets for power, kayang kaya ng mga Gigabyte na may ganitong feature with a single socket. Pero hindi siya nakakabilis ng transfer, unfortunately. :P
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 02, 2012 at 09:49 PM
Effective yung XFast ek-ek na yan sa experience ko, especially with USB 2.0 devices... whether you're using the USB 2.0 or the USB 3.0 ports. I can get 40MB/s+ transfers sa mga meron nyan, which is awesome for USB 2.0. Pero siyempre mas mabilis pa din yung USB 3.0. Medyo madami akong PC na ginagamit, pero yan talaga ang pinaka mabilis sa USB 2.0 transfers na nasubok ko. Na-experience din ni Paul yan sa PC ni DMF, nung kinabit nya sa USB 2.0 port yung HDD nya, akala nya sa USB 3.0 nya nakabit kasi mabilis yung transfer (USB 3.0 yung HDD nya).

Yung 3x USB Power Boost ng Gigabyte is effective din. Yung mga devices na usually kailangan ng dalawang USB sockets for power, kayang kaya ng mga Gigabyte na may ganitong feature with a single socket. Pero hindi siya nakakabilis ng transfer, unfortunately. :P

so mas recommended mo ito kaysa e350?? wala bang small form factor na katulad na xtreamer ultra? gusto ko kasi mejo portable...

may hiccup na ang e350?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 02, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Effective yung XFast ek-ek na yan sa experience ko, especially with USB 2.0 devices... whether you're using the USB 2.0 or the USB 3.0 ports. I can get 40MB/s+ transfers sa mga meron nyan, which is awesome for USB 2.0. Pero siyempre mas mabilis pa din yung USB 3.0. Medyo madami akong PC na ginagamit, pero yan talaga ang pinaka mabilis sa USB 2.0 transfers na nasubok ko. Na-experience din ni Paul yan sa PC ni DMF, nung kinabit nya sa USB 2.0 port yung HDD nya, akala nya sa USB 3.0 nya nakabit kasi mabilis yung transfer (USB 3.0 yung HDD nya).

Yung 3x USB Power Boost ng Gigabyte is effective din. Yung mga devices na usually kailangan ng dalawang USB sockets for power, kayang kaya ng mga Gigabyte na may ganitong feature with a single socket. Pero hindi siya nakakabilis ng transfer, unfortunately. :P
atleast di sya imagination  :D
akala ko nga nung una dahil sa sarap lang ng kwentuhan namin ni DMF eh.  yun pala talagang mabilis  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 02, 2012 at 11:04 PM
so mas recommended mo ito kaysa e350?? wala bang small form factor na katulad na xtreamer ultra? gusto ko kasi mejo portable...

may hiccup na ang e350?

Napakalayo nyan sa e350, performance-wise. You get around 4x as much graphics power and 5x as much processing muscle based on synthetic benchmarks. You can build a small form factor one, pero baka asa 20k lalabas ang system mo.

The e350 will play most file formats smoothly, as long as accelerated siguro nung GPU nya. The downside is pag hindi accelerated nung GPU, possibleng makupad na. Another thing is maski accelerated na, hindi mo magamit ang postprocessing features nung GPU if you want to maintain good frame rates dahil kulang sa processing power ang e350 to do that. Kumbaga sa car masyado mahina yung engine na hindi ka pwede mag aircon or magkarga ng mabigat. Aandar pa din siya, pero you don't get all the advantages of driving a car.

Nasa sayo pa din naman yan, if you're willing to make that compromise.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 02, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Napakalayo nyan sa e350, performance-wise. You get around 4x as much graphics power and 5x as much processing muscle based on synthetic benchmarks. You can build a small form factor one, pero baka asa 20k lalabas ang system mo.

The e350 will play most file formats smoothly, as long as accelerated siguro nung GPU nya. The downside is pag hindi accelerated nung GPU, possibleng makupad na. Another thing is maski accelerated na, hindi mo magamit ang postprocessing features nung GPU if you want to maintain good frame rates dahil kulang sa processing power ang e350 to do that. Kumbaga sa car masyado mahina yung engine na hindi ka pwede mag aircon or magkarga ng mabigat. Aandar pa din siya, pero you don't get all the advantages of driving a car.

Nasa sayo pa din naman yan, if you're willing to make that compromise.

I see... in terms of power consumption? gano naman kataas ang iaangat? yung board na binigay you sa akin wala optical in.. hanap ko kasi may optical na din
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 02, 2012 at 11:18 PM
I see... in terms of power consumption? gano naman kataas ang iaangat? yung board na binigay you sa akin wala optical in.. hanap ko kasi may optical na din

You mean optical out?

Madami naman yan basta FM1 board humanap ka lang ng type mo.
A75 Pro4-M meron yan optical, saka USB 3.0 at SATA 3 asa 4450 pesos ata.
A75M-ITX same price, pang small form factor na board.

Power consumption would depend on your use. Maybe 10-15w higher with typical HTPC loads. You can undervolt (or use ULV components) kung talagang naghahanap ka ng low power consumption.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 03, 2012 at 06:54 AM
AMD A6-3500 APU - 4250
Asrock A75M-ITX - 4450
G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB DDR3-1600 - 2180
Samsung 1TB 2.5" HDD - 4995
Antec ISK-100 -3690

Total: 19565

Ayan sample ng sobrang portable na build, 8GB RAM na para less likely mo i-upgrade sa future. Eto hitsura nyan:
(http://static.flax.ro/imagini-produse/carcasa-antec-isk100-mini-itx-sursa-90w-argintie-isk-100-2.jpg)
(http://hirahata.com/photo/2011/20111031.jpg)

Parang Mac Mini na lang, less the optical drive. Take note that you may have to make some mods sa included HSF (or replace it with a low profile one) for proper fitting sa ganitong type ng case. Most likely baka kailangan na tanggalin yung Fan sa Heatsink, since may fan na din naman on top yung casing.

The included power supply is very efficient, kung power consumption ang biggest issue mo. Also take note that the proper PC software configuration has more to do with your actual consumption than the parts that you use. Maski matitipid pa sa kuryente yung parts mo, if you don't use the power saving features of those parts, in the end baka mas mataas pa konsumo than mga matatakaw na parts.

Parang sa car, maski matipid sa fuel na model ang bilhin kapag bad ang driving habits ng magmaneho, gastador pa din.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Jan 03, 2012 at 07:36 AM
Anong recommended os para tipid kuryente? Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 03, 2012 at 08:22 AM
Anong recommended os para tipid kuryente? Thanks


The OS type is only a small part of the picture. It's the configuration that matters more... if it's setup to power down unused hardware, and to utilize efficient means of processing that's available in the hardware. Power use optimization po ang dapat gawin. Napakadaming features ng PC components these days to make them "green," hindi lang ginagamit ng most.

As for the OS, yung mga magagaan sa resources na OS ang pinakamatipid sa kuryente if done right, like a customized Linux install. Pero even a full-blown Windows 7 / Vista Ultimate install can be very power-efficient when configured properly.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jan 03, 2012 at 08:30 AM
AMD A6-3500 APU - 4250
Asrock A75M-ITX - 4450
G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB DDR3-1600 - 2180
Samsung 1TB 2.5" HDD - 4995
Antec ISK-100 -3690

Total: 19565

Ayan sample ng sobrang portable na build, 8GB RAM na para less likely mo i-upgrade sa future. Eto hitsura nyan:
(http://static.flax.ro/imagini-produse/carcasa-antec-isk100-mini-itx-sursa-90w-argintie-isk-100-2.jpg)
(http://hirahata.com/photo/2011/20111031.jpg)

Parang Mac Mini na lang, less the optical drive. Take note that you may have to make some mods sa included HSF (or replace it with a low profile one) for proper fitting sa ganitong type ng case. Most likely baka kailangan na tanggalin yung Fan sa Heatsink, since may fan na din naman on top yung casing.

The included power supply is very efficient, kung power consumption ang biggest issue mo. Also take note that the proper PC software configuration has more to do with your actual consumption than the parts that you use. Maski matitipid pa sa kuryente yung parts mo, if you don't use the power saving features of those parts, in the end baka mas mataas pa konsumo than mga matatakaw na parts.

Parang sa car, maski matipid sa fuel na model ang bilhin kapag bad ang driving habits ng magmaneho, gastador pa din.

brader ano kaya power consumption nyan? parang gusto ko magbuo ng ganyan pero with videocard
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 03, 2012 at 09:15 AM
brader ano kaya power consumption nyan? parang gusto ko magbuo ng ganyan pero with videocard


Around 20W idle siguro and 30-40W siguro typical htpc load with a properly configured one (ymmv). That's a fraction of a PS3's consumption, and closer to a notebook.

You may wanna check out a larger ITX chassis kung gusto mo may video board. The video board may consume more power than the rest of the system kung midlevel or higher ang gusto mo (dependent on load din). You may want to go the Intel route na lang, if you're going for dedicated video anyway. The AMD Llano's main draw is the much faster on-chip graphics (which may not matter for your intended configuration, unless you plan to setup Radeon Dual-Graphics).

Here's a benchmark comparison between the i3's in-chip GPU and the A6's on-chip GPU.
(http://img5.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/0x0/2/2250/002250274.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 03, 2012 at 09:44 AM
lakas pala niyang A6.. mismatch ang i3 sandy.. hehe
not to mention.... power efficient.. @20watt idle...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 03, 2012 at 09:55 AM
lakas pala niyang A6.. mismatch ang i3 sandy.. hehe
not to mention.... power efficient.. @20watt idle...

Malakas siya sa GPU-intensive tasks bro. Sa CPU-intensive tasks mas mabilis yung i3 Sandy.

Yung built-in graphics ng A6 and A8 are comparable sa entry level discrete graphics chips, which are more powerful than Intel's integrated solution.

The AMD Llano is a 1.5B transistor chip, with a big chunk of that being the GPU:
(http://media.bestofmicro.com/K/C/296220/original/Llano%20CPU%20Die%20blocks.jpg)

The Intel Sandy Bridge is a 1.0B transistor chip, most of which is taken up by the CPU:
(http://zapp5.staticworld.net/news/graphics/215190-sandy-bridge-die-map_606_original.jpg)

That partly explains the disparity in performance.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jan 03, 2012 at 10:02 AM


Around 20W idle siguro and 30-40W siguro typical htpc load with a properly configured one (ymmv). That's a fraction of a PS3's consumption, and closer to a notebook.

You may wanna check out a larger ITX chassis kung gusto mo may video board. The video board may consume more power than the rest of the system kung midlevel or higher ang gusto mo (dependent on load din). You may want to go the Intel route na lang, if you're going for dedicated video anyway. The AMD Llano's main draw is the much faster on-chip graphics (which may not matter for your intended configuration, unless you plan to setup Radeon Dual-Graphics).

Here's a benchmark comparison between the i3's on-chip GPU and the A6's on-chip GPU.
(http://img5.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/0x0/2/2250/002250274.jpg)

i3 sandy na lang ako, can you recommend a good videocard solely for movie watching with 3d capabilities
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 03, 2012 at 10:33 AM
i3 sandy na lang ako, can you recommend a good videocard solely for movie watching with 3d capabilities

That's a very low requirement, actually. Even Intel's integrated GPU can handle that.

The HD 6570 may serve your needs, pero almost the same performance sa built-in ng AMD Llano. Imo, to give merit to spending more for dedicated graphics, go for the HD 6670 or HD 6750 at least.

(http://2b.zol-img.com.cn/product/72/439/cebpvphUHY7Fc.png)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 03, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Llano vs. Sandy Bridge power consumption for typical HTPC use:
(http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/amd-a8-3800/charts-3/power-4.png)
(http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/amd-a8-3800/charts-3/power-7.png)

Take note that this is the A8, and the A6 should consume less power (fewer execution units and lower clock speeds).

Because the A6 / A8 comes with a relatively strong graphics unit (for an integrated device), power consumption gets higher when the GPU is loaded (like when you're gaming). You have to pay for performance, one way or another.

(http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/amd-a8-3800/charts-3/power-6.png)

It is still a lot lower than running dedicated graphics, however.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 03, 2012 at 11:28 AM
sir stagea.. tama po ba intindi ko?

malakas ang a6/a8 sa graphics mahina sa processing
ang i3 naman malakas sa processing mahina sa graphics?
kaya sila at par sa performance?

hehe honestly.. now ko lang nalaman may ganyan na amd.. hehe medyo intel fanboy here eh.. hehe those are very nice consumption po for the amd.... 16.2watts @idle... most of the time.. idle lang naman ang... htpc.. downloading.. hehehe
and for me.. ok lang matakaw when im watching or playing... kasi nagagamit ko naman.. nanhihinayang lang ako pag... matakaw kahit idle..

sir wildfire... lakas napo ng built in graphics ngayon.. hehe i made my i3 htpc for my dad eh.. favorite game niya is civilization5... bago ko binuo yun.. i checked kung kakayanin ng sandy graphics yun... nagulat ako it can play that game smoothly.. (which my msi U210 netbook now can not play na kaya din naman 1080p movies)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Jan 03, 2012 at 11:42 AM
The OS type is only a small part of the picture. It's the configuration that matters more... if it's setup to power down unused hardware, and to utilize efficient means of processing that's available in the hardware. Power use optimization po ang dapat gawin. Napakadaming features ng PC components these days to make them "green," hindi lang ginagamit ng most.

As for the OS, yung mga magagaan sa resources na OS ang pinakamatipid sa kuryente if done right, like a customized Linux install. Pero even a full-blown Windows 7 / Vista Ultimate install can be very power-efficient when configured properly.

thanks ..can u direct me to a site or link on how to properly configure windows 7 to be more effecient? thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jan 03, 2012 at 12:16 PM
brader stagea 3d capable na ba ung HD 6670?

sir wildfire... lakas napo ng built in graphics ngayon.. hehe i made my i3 htpc for my dad eh.. favorite game niya is civilization5... bago ko binuo yun.. i checked kung kakayanin ng sandy graphics yun... nagulat ako it can play that game smoothly.. (which my msi U210 netbook now can not play na kaya din naman 1080p movies)

i agree kasi ung msi u230 ni misis ko kaya ung skyrim

pinapapabili kasi ako ng dad ko ng videocard para sa pc nya ang plan ko ibigay ung dedicated physx card ko (nvidia gt220) tapos ung pera pambibili ko ng HD 6670 para sa project htpc ko  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 03, 2012 at 12:26 PM
sir stagea.. tama po ba intindi ko?

malakas ang a6/a8 sa graphics mahina sa processing
ang i3 naman malakas sa processing mahina sa graphics?
kaya sila at par sa performance?
Tama po. Yung general processing capability nung Llano is more in line with the Clarkdale processors pa (and sometimes with the Yorkfield pa nga), while the graphics capability is quite a bit ahead of the Sandy Bridge. Intel might try to bridge the gap with Llano's graphics capability with the upcoming Ivy Bridge processor. The AMD Trinity should come out sooner though, and it's supposed to further improve on graphics and parallel compute capability (by integrating an HD 7xxx series GPU).


Here are Intel processors and their AMD counterparts that we normally find in a Home Theater:

Nettop:
Intel Atom ~ AMD Brazos

Entry Level:
Intel Celeron ~ AMD Brazos (Zacate)
Intel Pentium ~ AMD Llano A4

Mainstream:
Intel Core i3 ~ AMD Llano A6, AMD Bulldozer FX-4
Intel Core i5 ~ AMD Llano A8, AMD Bulldozer FX-6

High End:
Intel Core i7 ~ AMD Bulldozer FX-8

Enterprise:
Intel Xeon ~ AMD Opteron


The Llano and Bulldozer processors overlap in pricing and market coverage. To simplify things:
Llano - Efficiency-oriented; Higher IPC design; w/ Integrated GPU
Bulldozer - Enthusiast-oriented; Higher Clock Speed and OC Headroom; Multiplier-Unlocked

hehe honestly.. now ko lang nalaman may ganyan na amd.. hehe medyo intel fanboy here eh.. hehe those are very nice consumption po for the amd.... 16.2watts @idle... most of the time.. idle lang naman ang... htpc.. downloading.. hehehe
and for me.. ok lang matakaw when im watching or playing... kasi nagagamit ko naman.. nanhihinayang lang ako pag... matakaw kahit idle..

I agree. Most PCs stay idle most of the time. Tulad nito at nagtatype lang tayo sa PDVD at nagbabrowse. :P
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 03, 2012 at 12:27 PM
brader stagea 3d capable na ba ung HD 6670?

Halos lahat po ngayon 3D video capable na over HDMI 1.4, maski nga yung Intel HD Graphics 2000 capable nyan eh.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jan 03, 2012 at 03:59 PM
Halos lahat po ngayon 3D video capable na over HDMI 1.4, maski nga yung Intel HD Graphics 2000 capable nyan eh.

thanks pero baka hintayin ko na lang ung AMD Trinity or Ivy
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 03, 2012 at 06:05 PM
thanks ..can u direct me to a site or link on how to properly configure windows 7 to be more effecient? thanks

Search ka na lang, it's probably out there.

Settings that extend battery life for portables are the same settings that reduce power consumption.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 03, 2012 at 08:44 PM
AMD A6-3500 APU - 4250
Asrock A75M-ITX - 4450
G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB DDR3-1600 - 2180
Samsung 1TB 2.5" HDD - 4995
Antec ISK-100 -3690

Total: 19565

Ayan sample ng sobrang portable na build, 8GB RAM na para less likely mo i-upgrade sa future. Eto hitsura nyan:
(http://static.flax.ro/imagini-produse/carcasa-antec-isk100-mini-itx-sursa-90w-argintie-isk-100-2.jpg)

like like like.... heheh san nakakabili nito.. kung ganito mga setup well well well... di ko na kailangan ng xtreamer ultra or manli... heheh remote controller na lang aus na.... may alam ka po ba na board na may built-in wifi and bluetooth?
(http://hirahata.com/photo/2011/20111031.jpg)

Parang Mac Mini na lang, less the optical drive. Take note that you may have to make some mods sa included HSF (or replace it with a low profile one) for proper fitting sa ganitong type ng case. Most likely baka kailangan na tanggalin yung Fan sa Heatsink, since may fan na din naman on top yung casing.

The included power supply is very efficient, kung power consumption ang biggest issue mo. Also take note that the proper PC software configuration has more to do with your actual consumption than the parts that you use. Maski matitipid pa sa kuryente yung parts mo, if you don't use the power saving features of those parts, in the end baka mas mataas pa konsumo than mga matatakaw na parts.

Parang sa car, maski matipid sa fuel na model ang bilhin kapag bad ang driving habits ng magmaneho, gastador pa din.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 04, 2012 at 02:06 AM
para di kayo mahirapan, get the best of both worlds :P
laptop with Intel I3 2.53Ghz, ATi HD6470 dedicated 1gb ram, 8GB ram   :P
was supposed to be a gaming laptop pero bitin pala, htpc nalang ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 04, 2012 at 02:33 AM
para di kayo mahirapan, get the best of both worlds :P
laptop with Intel I3 2.53Ghz, ATi HD6470 dedicated 1gb ram, 8GB ram   :P
was supposed to be a gaming laptop pero bitin pala, htpc nalang ;D
bagong hakot mo to brader jamy?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 04, 2012 at 03:04 AM
bagong hakot mo to brader jamy?
tagal na nyan bro (6 months), actually bago nag 1 year old yung older laptop ko (i3 with ati 5470) pinalitan ko na nito, though konti lang naman ang difference nila sa speed.
pang room pc ko lang ito dati, browsing + 32" lcdtv for viewing tv series lang.  ngayon naging main htpc ko na ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 04, 2012 at 03:10 AM
para di kayo mahirapan, get the best of both worlds :P
laptop with Intel I3 2.53Ghz, ATi HD6470 dedicated 1gb ram, 8GB ram   :P
was supposed to be a gaming laptop pero bitin pala, htpc nalang ;D

Hindi pa ata best of both worlds yan, Master Jamy. Kasi mas mabilis yung integrated ng AMD Llano sa HD64xx eh (though the HD64xx is more capable than Intel's integrated solution). ;)

The Llano integrateds have an HD65xx designation because of their relative performance (between the HD64xx and HD66xx dedicated solutions). The Llano processors can also run the integrated graphics in Crossfire mode with a dedicated board for improved performance, up until a certain level (aka Radeon Dual Graphics).

Intel gains graphics parity with AMD once you get to the HD67xx level (or higher) for desktops and HD68xx (or higher) for notebooks, as those models no longer run in tandem with AMD's integrated GPU. At that point, it makes a lot less sense to go for an AMD solution, since Intel has the upper hand with general processing.

It's all a matter of choosing one that fits your needs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 04, 2012 at 03:21 AM
Hindi pa ata best of both worlds yan, Master Jamy. Kasi mas mabilis yung integrated ng AMD Llano sa HD64xx eh (though the HD64xx is more capable than Intel's integrated solution). ;)

The Llano integrateds have an HD65xx designation because of their relative performance (between the HD64xx and HD66xx dedicated solutions).


i stand corrected, if you want the better of both worlds ;D ;D
medyo curious ako sa actual performance ng AMD Llano.  pag di nabenta yung old htpc casing ko, i might assemble a new one with Llano platform  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 04, 2012 at 03:33 AM
i stand corrected, if you want the better of both worlds ;D ;D
medyo curious ako sa actual performance ng AMD Llano.  pag di nabenta yung old htpc casing ko, i might assemble a new one with Llano platform  ;D

Ayun o.

Sa Desktops, the Llanos are tagged with HD65xxD graphics, while sa notebooks they get to the HD66xxM level since mas mabagal ang dedicated GPUs ng notebooks kaya they elevated the same chips numerically to reflect yung relative performance sa mobile market.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 04, 2012 at 03:47 AM
Ayun o.
asan?  ;D
before 2012 ends siguro.  ;D

btw since im using my latop for my HTPC, is it OK to use usb hub for my external 2tb hdd's?
may sariling power supply naman yung mga external HDD's ko, pero ok lang kaya let's say 4x 2tb via usb hub?
currently using 2x2tb OK naman, but im not sure if 4x2tb is pushing it.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 04, 2012 at 03:52 AM
btw since im using my latop for my HTPC, is it OK to use usb hub for my external 2tb hdd's?
may sariling power supply naman yung mga external HDD's ko, pero ok lang kaya let's say 4x 2tb via usb hub?
currently using 2x2tb OK naman, but im not sure if 4x2tb is pushing it.  :)


As long as you're not overloading the hub, and you're not bothered with the performance, ok lang yan. Tignan mo yung power requirement nung USB device tapos i-sum mo kung kakayanin nung hub. Powered hub ba ang gamit mo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 04, 2012 at 03:54 AM
As long as you're not overloading the hub, and you're not bothered with the performance, ok lang yan. Tignan mo yung power requirement nung USB device tapos i-sum mo kung kakayanin nung hub. Powered hub ba ang gamit mo?
re: performance, ok lang naman no hiccups so far :D
btw it's not powered, i never thought i would need a power hub kasi may sariling adapter yung mga external hdd's   :-\
how would i know if im overloading it? ???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 04, 2012 at 04:40 AM
btw it's not powered, i never thought i would need a power hub kasi may sariling adapter yung mga external hdd's   :-\
how would i know if im overloading it? ???

You should be able to see your USB devices under Device Manager. May Power tab yung mga hub, and it will tell you the total power available from the hub, and the power required of each device that's connected to it.

As long as the total power required of the attached devices do not exceed the power available value, then you'd normally be okay. :)

A powered hub's main advantage is that it can normally deliver full power to each of its ports, while a non-powered hub will split the power that it sources from your PC's USB port.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 04, 2012 at 04:54 AM
You should be able to see your USB devices under Device Manager. May Power tab yung mga hub, and it will tell you the total power available from the hub, and the power required of each device that's connected to it.

As long as the total power required of the attached devices do not exceed the power available value, then you'd normally be okay. :)

A powered hub's main advantage is that it can normally deliver full power to each of its ports, while a non-powered hub will split the power that it sources from your PC's USB port.
thanks .. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 04, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Just reposting my E350 HTPC:

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/HTPC-1.jpg)

Specifications:


Motherboard: Asrock E-350M1 w/ AMD Dual-Core Processor E350/E350D
Memory: Emaxx 4GB DDR3
Graphics: Sapphire ATI HD6450
HDD: 500GB WD Scorpio Blue

*small footprint...gets the job done even on 1080p mkvs.  Using XBMC on this machine.  ;) 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 04, 2012 at 08:58 PM
Just reposting my E350 HTPC:


Motherboard: Asrock E-350M1 w/ AMD Dual-Core Processor E350/E350D
Memory: Emaxx 4GB DDR3
Graphics: Sapphire ATI HD6450
HDD: 500GB WD Scorpio Blue

*small footprint...gets the job done even on 1080p mkvs.  Using XBMC on this machine.  ;) 
doc pag nakapasyal ako dyan ulit, dala ako power calculator.  kung mas mababa ito sa laptop ko .. alam na!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 04, 2012 at 09:49 PM
Just reposting my E350 HTPC:

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/HTPC-1.jpg)

Specifications:


Motherboard: Asrock E-350M1 w/ AMD Dual-Core Processor E350/E350D
Memory: Emaxx 4GB DDR3
Graphics: Sapphire ATI HD6450
HDD: 500GB WD Scorpio Blue

*small footprint...gets the job done even on 1080p mkvs.  Using XBMC on this machine.  ;) 

musta power consumption??? pero according to stagea panalo daw yung AMD A6... hirap pala magbuo kung limited budget hay..... sa Gilmore ba lahat makukuha ang mga parts na ito??
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 04, 2012 at 10:00 PM
zacate way is one of the cheapest htpc you can build.panalo din sa konsumo sa 1.8 dual core with 6450 igp.
eto sana plan ko ipalit sa current htpc ko but the 6450 does not support hd audio so discreet low profile 6xxx ang napuntahan.. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 05, 2012 at 02:39 AM
zacate way is one of the cheapest htpc you can build.panalo din sa konsumo sa 1.8 dual core with 6450 igp.
eto sana plan ko ipalit sa current htpc ko but the 6450 does not support hd audio so discreet low profile 6xxx ang napuntahan.. ;D

zacate is e350 right?? pede na sa light gaming ito..  tama po ba... kasi yung suggestion ni stagea mas okay daw A6... 15k lng kaya strench budget so sana maayos na htpc mabuo ko hehe..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 05, 2012 at 03:00 AM
musta power consumption??? pero according to stagea panalo daw yung AMD A6... hirap pala magbuo kung limited budget hay..... sa Gilmore ba lahat makukuha ang mga parts na ito??

Nabuo ko to for P10-11k lang.  Got parts from tipidpc. Wala pako pangtest ng power consumption.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 05, 2012 at 03:06 AM
zacate way is one of the cheapest htpc you can build.panalo din sa konsumo sa 1.8 dual core with 6450 igp.
eto sana plan ko ipalit sa current htpc ko but the 6450 does not support hd audio so discreet low profile 6xxx ang napuntahan.. ;D

HD 6310 po ang integrated video ng E-350, while HD 6320 naman sa E-450. Both are Zacate APUs; both are HD Audio capable via HDMI.

zacate is e350 right?? pede na sa light gaming ito..  tama po ba... kasi yung suggestion ni stagea mas okay daw A6... 15k lng kaya strench budget so sana maayos na htpc mabuo ko hehe..

If your idea of light gaming comes in the form of flash games and older titles running low res, then yes, you could.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 05, 2012 at 03:22 AM
Nabuo ko to for P10-11k lang.  Got parts from tipidpc. Wala pako pangtest ng power consumption.
doc may rom drive na ba yan @ that price?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 05, 2012 at 04:15 AM
HD 6310 po ang integrated video ng E-350, while HD 6320 naman sa E-450. Both are Zacate APUs; both are HD Audio capable via HDMI.

If your idea of light gaming comes in the form of flash games and older titles running low res, then yes, you could.

based sa mga nabasa ko parang okay ang ASRock question na lang ngayon... will I go to AMD or Intel.... pag AMD A75 pag intel naman Z68... which is which??? Same pa rin ang requirement

1. ITX
2. No lag or hiccup when playing 1080p
3. light gaming
4. Power consumption

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 05, 2012 at 04:45 AM
based sa mga nabasa ko parang okay ang ASRock question na lang ngayon... will I go to AMD or Intel.... pag AMD A75 pag intel naman Z68... which is which??? Same pa rin ang requirement

1. ITX
2. No lag or hiccup when playing 1080p
3. light gaming
4. Power consumption



Both can meet requirements 1, 2 and 4. AMD handles number 3 a whole lot better.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 05, 2012 at 05:08 AM
doc may rom drive na ba yan @ that price?

Not yet.  Maybe another P4k for a BD combo drive.  Pasok parin sa P15k budget.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Nishi on Jan 05, 2012 at 09:50 AM
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k253/Customli70/Tech%20Gizmo%20II/IMG_2989_picnik.jpg)

HTPC/Gaming

Intel Core i5 760
EVGA P55 FTW
EVGA GTX260 SSC core 216
Corsair Dominator 2x4GB DDR3 1600mhz
Corsair HX620
640GB WD Caviar Black
500GB WD Caviar Green
2x2TB Samsung F4 SATA
Klipsch ProMedia 5.1
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 05, 2012 at 12:55 PM
You should be able to see your USB devices under Device Manager. May Power tab yung mga hub, and it will tell you the total power available from the hub, and the power required of each device that's connected to it.
bro i did not see the power tab, checked under details then chose power.  wala naman details dun.
what i saw howerver is 20% system reserve, 1% blutooth, 1% (forgot) for bandwidth usage   :-\
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 05, 2012 at 01:15 PM
bro i did not see the power tab, checked under details then chose power.  wala naman details dun.
what i saw howerver is 20% system reserve, 1% blutooth, 1% (forgot) for bandwidth usage   :-\

It should look like this:

(http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1439i5919646C6E87E0FB/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 05, 2012 at 06:33 PM
HD 6310 po ang integrated video ng E-350, while HD 6320 naman sa E-450. Both are Zacate APUs; both are HD Audio capable via HDMI.
oops oo nga pala..6310 ;D
nag-rambulan na hardware sa isipan ko.and 6450 also support hd audio.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 05, 2012 at 07:42 PM
oops oo nga pala..6310 ;D
nag-rambulan na hardware sa isipan ko.and 6450 also support hd audio.

Yup. AMD HD5xxx and HD6xxx GPUs support lossless-compressed HD Audio format bitstreaming.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 05, 2012 at 07:56 PM
i heared ATI5xxx with updated driver can now used for 3D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 05, 2012 at 08:37 PM
It should look like this:

(http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1439i5919646C6E87E0FB/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1)
nakuh !Ndot peke ata windows 7 ko  ;D ;D
ill check it again bro, salamat sa tyaga ha :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 05, 2012 at 08:41 PM
i heared ATI5xxx with updated driver can now used for 3D

It is a part of their HD3D Technology initiative. Apparently, even some of their older models can now handle frame packing unofficially.

However, this is the official statement:  "AMD HD3D technology is enabled on ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series GPUs and above using Catalyst 10.10 or later, however Blu-ray 3D playback is only supported on AMD Radeon HD 6000 Series GPUs and above."

I'm not sure if they changed their policy for Catalyst 11 and up.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 05, 2012 at 09:10 PM
@Stagea
got it!
parang "duh" moment for me.  anyways it read 0mA.  that's good right? :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 05, 2012 at 09:22 PM
@Stagea
got it!
parang "duh" moment for me.  anyways it read 0mA.  that's good right? :)

Listed yung HDDs pero 0mA? If so, then the USB interface is probably powered.

If you don't see your devices there, check all the hubs listed. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 05, 2012 at 09:37 PM
Both can meet requirements 1, 2 and 4. AMD handles number 3 a whole lot better.


Sige will browse the pricings... so basically this all can be found in Gilmore..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 05, 2012 at 09:56 PM
Sige will browse the pricings... so basically this all can be found in Gilmore..

Had you not included #3 to your requirements, the G530 would've suited your needs very well.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 05, 2012 at 11:55 PM
Listed yung HDDs pero 0mA? If so, then the USB interface is probably powered.

If you don't see your devices there, check all the hubs listed. :)
yup using 2 powered external HDD. :)
listed naman sya sa device manager.  thanks again  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 06, 2012 at 01:41 AM
Had you not included #3 to your requirements, the G530 would've suited your needs very well.

kung mag g530 ako di ang path ko intel which is z68m tama po ba?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2012 at 03:40 AM
kung mag g530 ako di ang path ko intel which is z68m tama po ba?

Yes. For movie and general purpose use, it's capable enough. Forget about #3 with this solution, unless you're fine with a very watered-down presentation. It'd still be a lot faster than a Zacate (by 206% by PassMark CPUmark standards), and power consumption should be close.

Passmark Numbers:

Relative CPU performance (CPUmark scores) of common HTPC processors:
Intel Atom (Diamondville) 330 - 634
AMD Fusion (Zacate) E350 - 727
AMD Fusion (Llano) A4-3400 - 2121
Intel Celeron (Sandy Bridge) G530 - 2226
Intel Pentium (Sandy Bridge) G620 - 2456
AMD Fusion (Llano) A6-3500 - 3058
Intel Core (Sandy Bridge) i3-2100 - 3856
AMD Fusion (Llano) A6-3650 - 4848
Intel Core (Sandy Bridge) i5-2300 - 5593
AMD Fusion (Llano) A8-3870K - 6960
Intel Core (Sandy Bridge) i5-2500K - 7474
Intel Core (Sandy Bridge) i7-2600S - 7476
AMD FX (Bulldozer) FX-8150 - 8367
Intel Core (Sandy Bridge) i7-2600K - 10070

Relative integrated GPU performance (G3Dmark scores) of the processors above:
AMD FX-8150 - (no integrated video)
Intel Atom 330 - 74
AMD Fusion E350 - 203
Intel Celeron G530 - 214
Intel Pentium G620 - 255
Intel Core I3-2100 - 272
Intel Core I5-2300 - 277
Intel Core i7-2600S - 297
Intel Core i5-2500K - 437
AMD Fusion A4-3400 - 513
Intel Core i7-2600K - 521
AMD Fusion A6-3500 - 543
AMD Fusion A6-3650 - 543
AMD Fusion A8-3870K - 603

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2012 at 04:32 AM
As you can see, there is a huge jump in CPU performance once you get above the Zacate level, making it worthwhile to get an A4 or the G530 at the very least for general purpose use. The fact that it probably won't cost you any more to build is a huge advantage (the G530 processor costs ~2k pesos; you can get a USB 3.0 capable mainboard and still be within the cost envelope of an E350 board). Higher models are of course, icing on top.

For graphics, the jump happens when you get to the Intel Sandy Bridge K-series processors or the AMD Llano processors. Since the Llanos cost a fraction of the Intel K units, they make sense for more graphics-intensive use (like mild gamiing).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 06, 2012 at 11:30 AM
laki din pala advantage ng i3 compared sa... G620 and celeron.. akala ko.. halos same lang.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2012 at 11:42 AM
laki din pala advantage ng i3 compared sa... G620 and celeron.. akala ko.. halos same lang.. hehe

Depende din siyempre sa form of measurement. The increased clock frequency plus Hyperthreading helped the i3's CPUmark scores significantly dahil CPU benchmark yan. Kung application bench yan mas dikit sila most of the time since system performance na ang pinaguusapan, hindi lang component performance.

The i3's limited core count also squeezes more benefits from HT, whilst ang mga i7 halos walang improvement with Hyperthreading sa current consumer apps, madalas nagdedeteriorate pa ang performance.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 06, 2012 at 11:59 AM
so... if you were to give real world scores to g620 i3 i5 or i7? what would they be? planning to upgrade my c2d eh.. hehe... im thinking i3 or i5.. kayalang nalilito pako.. hehe thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2012 at 12:27 PM
so... if you were to give real world scores to g620 i3 i5 or i7? what would they be? planning to upgrade my c2d eh.. hehe... im thinking i3 or i5.. kayalang nalilito pako.. hehe thanks

The i5 Sandy Bridge processors deliver a lot of bang for most tasks without costing as much as an i7. I would go with this over the lower options if it fits the budget. The i7 Sandy Bridge and the i7 Sandy Bridge E are only a fraction faster than the i5 Sandy Bridge for most tasks, and thus only makes Peso sense for specialized uses at the moment (o kaya for bragging rights).

For the i5 models:
If you're planning to run with integrated video and/or plan to overclock, get a "K" processor (eg. i5-2500K). If you intend to run dedicated video and stick with the stock clocks, the no letter processors would give the same performance at a lower price (eg. i5-2500_). If you want a reduced thermal profile or a greener machine and a mild performance hit is acceptable to you, go with an "S" processor (eg. i5-2500S). If you want very low power consumption and heat generation, and would tolerate a larger performance hit, a "T" processor (eg. i5-2500T) is for you.

All 4 types have the same single thread performance (max turbo), but the lower power processors begin to clock lower as more cores are utilized.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2012 at 01:17 PM
Based on Anand's test bench specs, I compared the SYSMark 2012 performance of the G620, the i3-2100, the i5-2500K and the i7-2600K.

The i3 is on average ~31% faster than the G620, based on the system level benchmark. Arithmetics (file compression, office applications, statistic work, etc.) get the most benefit from an i3, whilst games and 3d graphics work generally don't get any noticeable advantage.

The i5 edges the i3 by being 50 to 80% faster for most processing-intensive tasks (3d rendering, 3d gaming, media encoding/compression, etc.), but barely makes a performance edge for media playback, internet surfing or general office use. Bapco puts a typical i5 system as ~41% faster on average against a similarly-speced i3 system.

The i7 edges the i5 by upto ~30% for very parallel tasks, but these are very specialized applications. Most other tasks do not benefit much from the use of an i7 processor, and thus Bapco puts the average gap at a disappointing ~3%.

Pentium - Great budget processor; performs just like an i3 as a gaming platform. This would be the Japanese or Korean compact car; perfectly adequate for the daily drive, cheap to buy and run, and has great residuals to boot.

i3 - Full featured processor at a reasonable price; perfect for general office and home use. I'd compare it to the stereotypical Japanese midsize executive car; competent, comfortable and reliable.

i5 - Powerful mainstream processor; great for demanding games, content creation, etc. Probably like a European sport-luxury sedan; chances are, it won't leave you wanting.

i7 - Xeon for the masses; targets specialized needs served by parallel-optimized applications. This is like having an Italian exotic... it won't be much faster than a nice sedan for 6 days of each week.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 06, 2012 at 01:51 PM
thanks sir for explanation.. very helpful po..
i guess... i will have to go with i5-2500 if budget permits.. hehe if not.. i3-2100....
kayalang medyo nanhihinayang ako ngayon dahil.. malapit na lumabas ivyleague... yung ivyleague po ba.. pwede kabit sa 1155 motherboards? hehe

motherboard kasi na tinatarget ko ngayon.. is asrock h61 matx... 2350php lang ngayon.. hihi... and nagpm na sakin suki ko.. saying tataas nadaw prices ng ddr3... kung tama ako bigay niya sakin is 1050php per stick of 4gb ddr3. ito na chance ko mag 8gb.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2012 at 02:02 PM
thanks sir for explanation.. very helpful po..

You're welcome. For the current desktop models, a Pentium is like half of an i5, whilst the i3 is like half of an i7.

i guess... i will have to go with i5-2500 if budget permits.. hehe if not.. i3-2100....
kayalang medyo nanhihinayang ako ngayon dahil.. malapit na lumabas ivyleague... yung ivyleague po ba.. pwede kabit sa 1155 motherboards? hehe

We are to find out soon. I have doubts about the possibility though.

motherboard kasi na tinatarget ko ngayon.. is asrock h61 matx... 2350php lang ngayon.. hihi... and nagpm na sakin suki ko.. saying tataas nadaw prices ng ddr3... kung tama ako bigay niya sakin is 1050php per stick of 4gb ddr3. ito na chance ko mag 8gb.. hehe

The Sandy Bridge processors currently do not officially support ram speeds beyond DDR3-1333. Mura na yan ngayon, I've seen 4GB sticks at ~800 pesos each sa Gilmore.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 06, 2012 at 02:20 PM
wow... 800 nalang pala:( badtrip.. i got my 4gb for 2100php for my i3-2100t.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2012 at 02:24 PM
wow... 800 nalang pala:( badtrip.. i got my 4gb for 2100php for my i3-2100t.. hehe

I know what you mean. 12k+ yung 3 x 2GB kit ko dati sa i7-920 before i switched to 3 x 4GB. :P
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 06, 2012 at 02:37 PM
wow.. hehe im dreaming of 8gb rams.. you have 12gb na pala.. monster talaga rig mo.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2012 at 02:58 PM
wow.. hehe im dreaming of 8gb rams.. you have 12gb na pala.. monster talaga rig mo.. hehe

Di naman, napag-iwanan na nga eh. Ako na lang ata gumagamit ng SCSI HDDs dito puro SSD na ang daigdig. Wala pang i3 at i5 nung nabuo ito, ngayon pang ilang generation na nila.

Serviceable pa naman siya, pero mas madalas ko gamit yung notebooks ko.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 06, 2012 at 03:21 PM
Based on Anand's test bench specs, I compared the SYSMark 2012 performance of the G620, the i3-2100, the i5-2500K and the i7-2600K.

The i3 is on average ~31% faster than the G620, based on the system level benchmark. Arithmetics (file compression, office applications, statistic work, etc.) get the most benefit from an i3, whilst games and 3d graphics work generally don't get any noticeable advantage.

The i5 edges the i3 by being 50 to 80% faster for most processing-intensive tasks (3d rendering, 3d gaming, media encoding/compression, etc.), but barely makes a performance edge for media playback, internet surfing or general office use. Bapco puts a typical i5 system as ~41% faster on average against a similarly-speced i3 system.

The i7 edges the i5 by upto ~30% for very parallel tasks, but these are very specialized applications. Most other tasks do not benefit much from the use of an i7 processor, and thus Bapco puts the average gap at a disappointing ~3%.

Pentium - Great budget processor; performs just like an i3 as a gaming platform. This would be the Japanese or Korean compact car; perfectly adequate for the daily drive, cheap to buy and run, and has great residuals to boot.

i3 - Full featured processor at a reasonable price; perfect for general office and home use. I'd compare it to the stereotypical Japanese midsize executive car; competent, comfortable and reliable.

i5 - Powerful mainstream processor; great for demanding games, content creation, etc. Probably like a European sport-luxury sedan; chances are, it won't leave you wanting.

i7 - Xeon for the masses; targets specialized needs served by parallel-optimized applications. This is like having an Italian exotic... it won't be much faster than a nice sedan for 6 days of each week.

halimaw po kayo.. hands down ako sa mga review ninyo... tambay siguro kayo ng gilmore heheh... am going to visit gilmore this weekend magcanvass ako ng board muna.... kasi yung ang pinakaimportante to make this all happen hehehe... then next ko processor... pero binigyan niyo ako ulit ng panibaong isipin... ngayon 3 na ang way ko either celeron or core or fusion... waaaa... ano ba ang board ko... hehehe hirap kainis na ito.. :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2012 at 04:18 PM
halimaw po kayo.. hands down ako sa mga review ninyo... tambay siguro kayo ng gilmore heheh... am going to visit gilmore this weekend magcanvass ako ng board muna.... kasi yung ang pinakaimportante to make this all happen hehehe... then next ko processor... pero binigyan niyo ako ulit ng panibaong isipin... ngayon 3 na ang way ko either celeron or core or fusion... waaaa... ano ba ang board ko... hehehe hirap kainis na ito.. :(

Di po ako tumatambay dun. Napapadpad lang kapag may kailangan na part, or pag sinasamahan sa kakahakot si Master Billabong.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Jan 06, 2012 at 05:33 PM
halimaw po kayo.. hands down ako sa mga review ninyo... tambay siguro kayo ng gilmore heheh... am going to visit gilmore this weekend magcanvass ako ng board muna.... kasi yung ang pinakaimportante to make this all happen hehehe... then next ko processor... pero binigyan niyo ako ulit ng panibaong isipin... ngayon 3 na ang way ko either celeron or core or fusion... waaaa... ano ba ang board ko... hehehe hirap kainis na ito.. :(

Ganyan talaga pag ikaw ang may-ari ng Gilmore IT Center. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2012 at 05:40 PM
Ganyan talaga pag ikaw ang may-ari ng Gilmore IT Center. ;)

Oo nga master, thanks sa pag-entertain mo samin kahapon diyan sa building mo. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Jan 06, 2012 at 07:09 PM
Oo nga master, thanks sa pag-entertain mo samin kahapon diyan sa building mo. :)
ang titindi talaga ng mga pinoydvd members ang lulupit  ;D
Parang ang ganda ng llano pero di nito kaya mag 3d right?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2012 at 11:32 PM
ang titindi talaga ng mga pinoydvd members ang lulupit  ;D
Parang ang ganda ng llano pero di nito kaya mag 3d right?

It surely is 3d-capable. What sort of 3d feature are you looking for?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 06, 2012 at 11:35 PM
Ganyan talaga pag ikaw ang may-ari ng Gilmore IT Center. ;)

boss kayo pala may-ari baka pede sa iyo na ako kuha ng good deal para sa buoin kong HTPC :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Jan 07, 2012 at 01:24 AM
Si sir Stagea po ang may-ari nun. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 07, 2012 at 04:00 AM
Si sir Stagea po ang may-ari nun. :)

Front mo lang ako, ikaw talaga. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 07, 2012 at 01:36 PM
Para everybody happy hingi na lang ako discount sa shop ninyong dalawa.. San po sa gilmore yan :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: -lee- on Jan 07, 2012 at 04:01 PM
mga sir patulong po. napansin ko lang po pag nanonood ako gamit ang htpc, parang hirap sya ireproduce ang colors sa mga dark scenes o yung mga may umuusok parang sa cowboys and aliens. parang layered sya from dark to lighter colors, halata yung layers samantalang pag sa bd player (mkv capable) ako nanuod, ok naman yung mga scenes na ganun, uniform yung screen, wala yung mga parang layers na sinasabo ko.. sinubukan ko na iadjust brightness and contrast sa pc pero ganun pa rin po.. ganun po ba talaga pag sa pc or meron lang adjustment na kelangan? video card ko po ay ati radeon hd4650. sony po parehas tv and bd player..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 07, 2012 at 04:38 PM
@stagea a now decided to go to amd... pero may nabasa ako kasi yung nirecommend mo sa akin FM processor tapos meron din AM3+ ano difference nila which is better??
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 07, 2012 at 06:14 PM
@stagea a now decided to go to amd... pero may nabasa ako kasi yung nirecommend mo sa akin FM processor tapos meron din AM3+ ano difference nila which is better??

AM3 is older and is used on Sempron, Athlon II, Phenom II and lower Opteron processors.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Jan 07, 2012 at 06:49 PM
It surely is 3d-capable. What sort of 3d feature are you looking for?

3d movies sbs n 3d bluray
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 07, 2012 at 11:29 PM
mga sir patulong po. napansin ko lang po pag nanonood ako gamit ang htpc, parang hirap sya ireproduce ang colors sa mga dark scenes o yung mga may umuusok parang sa cowboys and aliens. parang layered sya from dark to lighter colors, halata yung layers samantalang pag sa bd player (mkv capable) ako nanuod, ok naman yung mga scenes na ganun, uniform yung screen, wala yung mga parang layers na sinasabo ko.. sinubukan ko na iadjust brightness and contrast sa pc pero ganun pa rin po.. ganun po ba talaga pag sa pc or meron lang adjustment na kelangan? video card ko po ay ati radeon hd4650. sony po parehas tv and bd player..
na-try mo sa ibang player?
dxva compliant like mpchc
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 08, 2012 at 12:02 AM
3d movies sbs n 3d bluray

That's a very basic capability of PCs these days, only low power devices like the atom and its competitors omit this.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: -lee- on Jan 08, 2012 at 12:38 AM
na-try mo sa ibang player?
dxva compliant like mpchc
thanks! sinubukan ko mpc ngayon sir, nakainstall sa pc pero d ko ginagamit kase parang madilim, pero pansin ko mas ok nga colors compared to xbmc, wala masyadong clouding effect.. pero mas maganda pa rin quality pag dun sa bd player.. ganun po ba talaga?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 08, 2012 at 01:24 AM
thanks! sinubukan ko mpc ngayon sir, nakainstall sa pc pero d ko ginagamit kase parang madilim, pero pansin ko mas ok nga colors compared to xbmc, wala masyadong clouding effect.. pero mas maganda pa rin quality pag dun sa bd player.. ganun po ba talaga?
try to update ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 08, 2012 at 01:40 AM
since youre trying to play an mkv file, try kmplayer.
just downlaod and install for testing, if the it does not work for you just uninstall it.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 08, 2012 at 02:51 AM
brader jamy have you tried splash?
danda  ;)
splash pro e.x. ver1.12
sample pic
(http://oi42.tinypic.com/13z0j85.jpg)
detail boost set to 4 only
http://oi42.tinypic.com/b6pug1.jpg (http://oi42.tinypic.com/b6pug1.jpg)
for larger image
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 08, 2012 at 03:14 AM
brader jamy have you tried splash?
pm me details kung san makakuha ng special version 
si xrampage nakalimutan na yung invite ko ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 08, 2012 at 03:45 AM
pm me details kung san makakuha ng special version 
si xrampage nakalimutan na yung invite ko ;D ;D
busy yun kakapagawa ng lungga nya ;D
yung 2 tera ko nga nasa kanya pa :'(
pm sent..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 08, 2012 at 04:11 AM
busy yun kakapagawa ng lungga nya ;D
OT: nakow wag kamo sya masyado magbuhat at baka di na sya lumaki ;D
pm replied :)
btw splash pro can output HD audio rin ba?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 08, 2012 at 04:12 AM
btw splash pro can output HD audio rin ba?
opo
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 08, 2012 at 07:41 AM
For those who want to "mildly game" with their htpc (since I keep on seeing that term), here's a video comparing Llano with Sandy Bridge when running a current gaming load:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5VsEuWCBaM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5VsEuWCBaM&feature=related)

The i3-2105 is fairly rare locally, but it's essentially an i3-2100 with faster graphics (Intel HD 3000 vs. Intel HD 2000). An i5-2500k or higher should score just about the same, since it runs the same GPU.

Suffice to say, Intel's integrated solutions are not enough to run today's demanding 3D FPS games (unless you can live with eye-wateringly-low frame rates or very watered down video settings).

You can play older games or less demanding genres (RPGs and the like) with them just fine, however. To give you a comparison, Intel's integrated graphics is about as fast as the PS3's GPU, but a lot better because it integrates modern-day capability. Some may think: "That's not so bad then?" -- well, let's dig deeper. This hardware may be adequate in a console, but PC games are typically built with higher levels of physics and graphics complexity when compared to the console version of the same game, as this is to take advantage of the extra processing capability that's often available in a PC (and is demanded by PC gaming enthusiasts in general, as being on the leading edge is the main lure of PC gaming over console gaming). PC hardware moves forward all the time, and software advances to make something out of that potential. In the PC world, PS3 hardware was obsolete when it was launched. It was based on a scaled-down version of a PC GPU design from 2005. In terms of processing speed, it's about a twenty fifth of what's available now. In terms of capability, it's not even remotely comparable (it looks downright primitive).

The only reason game consoles work is because the software designers optimize their programs for that level of capability and they optimize it for a single type of hardware (since the same hardware will last for years, maybe in different packages of the same basic tech). It can be likened to a phone or a tablet application; it works despite the weak processing available because the program had been simplified and optimized to work with what's available. Console gamers put more focus on the actual gameplay in general, and care less about the technical aspects of things (or don't want to worry about upgrading to play the latest and greatest). A typical PC gamer is like an audiophile, audiophiles want to get the greatest rendition of a sound. A typical console gamer is more like a music lover, a music lover would enjoy his music even if it comes out of a megaphone.

Oops... this is getting too long. Time for a topic change...

Here's a quad-core Llano against a quad-core Sandy Bridge running 4 simultaneous loads:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD3ScERWx5I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD3ScERWx5I)
Notice that 3 of the 4 loads are graphics-intensive though (I wonder how many people really do that), but this is an AMD presentation. They're essentially highlighting the advantage of having better graphics processing available in a computer. The Llano does these things a lot faster and with better video and 3d quality, at a fraction of the price.

Intel excels on purely compute-type workloads (and they do these things better than AMD at the moment), but their current processors need the help of a dedicated GPU for heavy multimedia use. For the record, 3D BD movie playback does not count as anywhere near "heavy" and any up-to-date system should be able to handle that easily. This is why system power consumption is typically low during accelerated movie playback -- the PC is essentially idling its way through the task.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 08, 2012 at 09:16 AM
wow.. grabe! galing ako gilmore sir stagea.. tama kapo.. meron 800.. meron pang 750 na pqi brand(which i think is also a good brand)

mamaya magbubuo kami.. hehe htpc para sa friend kong girl (naingit saaming boys.. hehe gusto din ng htpc for her 46" tv in her room..) aga nagkaroon ng 46 niyan eh.. para sa hindi techie... 2 yrs ago pa yata siya.. nung naka 32 pa kami

i3-2100
asrock H61
4gbram
my friend's old hd
aurum psu
emaxx rebel case

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 08, 2012 at 09:45 AM
I remember Paul bringing up Sony's marketing gimmick of calling the PS3 a "supercomputer" when it was launched in 2007, and how it may be used by rouge nations. It was to prey on the ignorant, as they were basing it on supercomputer standards from the early 80s. The PS3's processor is about as fast a Cray X-MP, which was a supercomputer in 1982. LOL. The mainstream PC was at that level in 1999. I'm sure Iran and North Korea had PCs back then.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 08, 2012 at 10:10 AM
wow.. grabe! galing ako gilmore sir stagea.. tama kapo.. meron 800.. meron pang 750 na pqi brand(which i think is also a good brand)

mamaya magbubuo kami.. hehe htpc para sa friend kong girl (naingit saaming boys.. hehe gusto din ng htpc for her 46" tv in her room..) aga nagkaroon ng 46 niyan eh.. para sa hindi techie... 2 yrs ago pa yata siya.. nung naka 32 pa kami

i3-2100
asrock H61
4gbram
my friend's old hd
aurum psu
emaxx rebel case

Nice. Best of luck. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 08, 2012 at 03:07 PM
AM3 is older and is used on Sempron, Athlon II, Phenom II and lower Opteron processors.

so FM na po ako... go for llano...???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 08, 2012 at 06:51 PM
i3-2100
asrock H61
4gbram


nice bro. magkano inabot?   :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: keema on Jan 08, 2012 at 07:18 PM
Yung splash pro EX po hindi nag nag output ng dolby at DTS pag naka toslink/optical ka

hindi ko alam lang sa dolby trued HD or sa DTS HD...

kse nasubukan ko na ..meron ako sa laptop nyan..ang nababasa lang ng recevier ko eh prologic lang..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 08, 2012 at 08:40 PM
Yung splash pro EX po hindi nag nag output ng dolby at DTS pag naka toslink/optical ka

hindi ko alam lang sa dolby trued HD or sa DTS HD...

kse nasubukan ko na ..meron ako sa laptop nyan..ang nababasa lang ng recevier ko eh prologic lang..

weird, unless the media being played is just stereo.
will try this via laptop hdmi out and hd audio capable receiver later this week.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 08, 2012 at 11:40 PM
@ninjababez..
sa pchub po kami nakakuha

i3-2100 4990
asrock 2500
4gbram 750

parang ganyan...
hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 08, 2012 at 11:52 PM
thanks sa price list  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 09, 2012 at 08:14 AM
so FM na po ako... go for llano...???

That makes sense. I don't see the budget that we're talking about as anywhere near optimal for an AM3+ build. It would work for AM3 (older) or FM1.

An FX Processor, an AM3+ board with a 9-series chipset and a dedicated video adapter would likely cost far more than a Llano build, so they are generally not comparable. You have to build a pretty wretched Bulldozer system to get down to Llano levels of cost. They're just targeted at different segments.

The Bulldozer aka 'FX' CPU and its AM3+ platform are not optimized for low system cost and low power consumption. They are intended for PC enthusiasts and people with higher performance demands. Their combination is like a 2-seater performance car. The product serves a specialized target market that's willing to forego some practicality in favor of performance.

The Llano aka 'A' APU and its FM1 platform are optimized for the mainstream user who values good performance, reasonable system cost and low power consumption. Together, they are like your typical sedan or SUV. The product appeals to the sensibilities of the majority by being capable, affordable and inexpensive to run.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 09, 2012 at 12:11 PM
That makes sense. I don't see the budget that we're talking about as anywhere near optimal for an AM3+ build. It would work for AM3 (older) or FM1.

An FX Processor, an AM3+ board with a 9-series chipset and a dedicated video adapter would likely cost far more than a Llano build, so they are generally not comparable. You have to build a pretty wretched Bulldozer system to get down to Llano levels of cost. They're just targeted at different segments.

The Bulldozer aka 'FX' CPU and its AM3+ platform are not optimized for low system cost and low power consumption. They are intended for PC enthusiasts and people with higher performance demands. Their combination is like a 2-seater performance car. The product serves a specialized target market that's willing to forego some practicality in favor of performance.

The Llano aka 'A' APU and its FM1 platform are optimized for the mainstream user who values good performance, reasonable system cost and low power consumption. Together, they are like your typical sedan or SUV. The product appeals to the sensibilities of the majority by being capable, affordable and inexpensive to run.



nabasa ko nga po ibang architecture na pala yung bulldozer akala ko same sila... thanks po sa mga info learned at lot from you am already down to my boards... sent you a PM regarding dun pero I will also post it here para everyone will benefit from your feed back....

Gigabyte
 GA-A75M-UD2H (rev. 1.0)
 GA-A75N-USB3 (rev. 1.0)
Asus
 F1A75-I DELUXE
 F1A75-M PRO
 F1A75-M
Asrock
 A75M-ITX
 A75 Pro4-M
 A75M


Also am really on a tight budget and based from my canvass a6-3500 vs a6-3650 pricing has a 1.1k difference... is there a big leap in the performance if I go for a6-3650 or a6-3500 will be value for money at the same time I won't feel under powered.

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 09, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Gigabyte
 GA-A75M-UD2H (rev. 1.0)
 GA-A75N-USB3 (rev. 1.0)
Asus
 F1A75-I DELUXE
 F1A75-M PRO
 F1A75-M
Asrock
 A75M-ITX
 A75 Pro4-M
 A75M
Zotac
 Zotac A75-ITX WiFi

Dagdag ko na pala yung Zotac second na mahal na ITX board sa market.. una kasi yung sa Asus yung deluxe then Asrock....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: keema on Jan 09, 2012 at 06:34 PM
weird, unless the media being played is just stereo.
will try this via laptop hdmi out and hd audio capable receiver later this week.

Nagagawa nyo po bang mapalabas sa receiver yung dolby or DTS using this player sir?

sa MPC, KMP + CoreAVC and VLC wala po akong problem pero pag dito lang ayaw mapalabas.

napaka simple lang naman ng option nya (splashPRO) pero hindi ko magawa.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 09, 2012 at 07:17 PM
Gigabyte
 GA-A75M-UD2H (rev. 1.0)
 GA-A75N-USB3 (rev. 1.0)
Asus
 F1A75-I DELUXE
 F1A75-M PRO
 F1A75-M
Asrock
 A75M-ITX
 A75 Pro4-M
 A75M
Zotac
 Zotac A75-ITX WiFi

Dagdag ko na pala yung Zotac second na mahal na ITX board sa market.. una kasi yung sa Asus yung deluxe then Asrock....

That's a mixture of uATX and mITX boards. Anong form factor ba ang gusto mo? Check the board features din kung kumpleto ang mga hinahanap mo.

In terms of brand, I generally prefer Gigabyte, followed by Asus. Asrock is a good budget brand din naman.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 09, 2012 at 09:53 PM
That's a mixture of uATX and mITX boards. Anong form factor ba ang gusto mo? Check the board features din kung kumpleto ang mga hinahanap mo.

In terms of brand, I generally prefer Gigabyte, followed by Asus. Asrock is a good budget brand din naman.

ITX na po napagdecisionan ko.. para talagang small form factor lang... 4 and ITX dito...

GA-A75N-USB3
F1A75-I DELUXE
A75M-ITX
Zotac A75-ITX WiFi

Based sa mga nabasa ko mas napabor yung ASRock above all... natry niyo na po ba ito in action??? also regarding sa processor A6-3500 vs A6-3650 may malaking diff ba??? malaki po ba ang lose ko pag nag 3500 ako??
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 10, 2012 at 04:36 AM
ITX na po napagdecisionan ko.. para talagang small form factor lang... 4 and ITX dito...

GA-A75N-USB3
F1A75-I DELUXE
A75M-ITX
Zotac A75-ITX WiFi

Based sa mga nabasa ko mas napabor yung ASRock above all... natry niyo na po ba ito in action??? also regarding sa processor A6-3500 vs A6-3650 may malaking diff ba??? malaki po ba ang lose ko pag nag 3500 ako??

A75M-ITX gamit ni Paul, so far so good. Maganda din.

Zotac is PC Partner, I don't think it's at the same level as the other brands here. Lower cost ang target nya compared to Gigabyte and Asus.

The A6-3500 will work for your needs, since particular ka sa power consumption. The A6-3650 is not as power-efficient and runs a little hotter. Sa Llano processors, those ending with 00 ang model number (3500, 3800, etc.) are power-optimized units, while those ending with 50 or 70 ang model number are regular power products.

If possible, choose DDR3-1600 (or higher) memory for Llano APUs for improved performance.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM
A75M-ITX gamit ni Paul, so far so good. Maganda din.

Zotac is PC Partner, I don't think it's at the same level as the other brands here. Lower cost ang target nya compared to Gigabyte and Asus.

The A6-3500 will work for your needs, since particular ka sa power consumption. The A6-3650 is not as power-efficient and runs a little hotter. Sa Llano processors, those ending with 00 ang model number (3500, 3800, etc.) are power-optimized units, while those ending with 50 or 70 ang model number are regular power products.

If possible, choose DDR3-1600 (or higher) memory for Llano APUs for improved performance.

ah yun pala ang diff nun.. hehe sino pong paul???
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 10, 2012 at 10:19 AM
ah yun pala ang diff nun.. hehe sino pong paul???
time magazine man of the year 2014 sya bro  ;D
he's actuall Billabong, good friend nila jojodpogi and ivan  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 10, 2012 at 10:37 AM
ah yun pala ang diff nun.. hehe sino pong paul???

Yup, the 3650 is faster while the 3500 needs less power. 3 cores lang yung active sa 3500 plus mababa yung base clock nya kaya matipid sa kuryente.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Yup, the 3650 is faster while the 3500 needs less power. 3 cores lang yung active sa 3500 plus mababa yung base clock nya kaya matipid sa kuryente.

4gb enough na po yun.. meron kasi nagquote sa akin 8gb masyado ng overkill sa tingin ko
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 10, 2012 at 11:51 AM
4gb enough na po yun.. meron kasi nagquote sa akin 8gb masyado ng overkill sa tingin ko

Just my opinion:

At the moment kaya na talaga ng 4GB, but since memory is cheap nowadays bat mo pa titipirin. Get enough RAM habang mura pa, assurance na din at baka magtaas prices ng DDR3 later on pag naluma na (like what happened to DDR2 and DDR DRAM DIMMs and SODIMMS).

Kung ITX ang bubuoin mo, chances are dalawa lang ang DIMM slots. You can no longer choose to upgrade that pag nilagyan mo ng dalawang 2 gig sticks unless dispose mo yung existing ram na nakakabit.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 10, 2012 at 07:24 PM
Just my opinion:

At the moment kaya na talaga ng 4GB, but since memory is cheap nowadays bat mo pa titipirin. Get enough RAM habang mura pa, assurance na din at baka magtaas prices ng DDR3 later on pag naluma na (like what happened to DDR2 and DDR DRAM DIMMs and SODIMMS).

Kung ITX ang bubuoin mo, chances are dalawa lang ang DIMM slots. You can no longer choose to upgrade that pag nilagyan mo ng dalawang 2 gig sticks unless dispose mo yung existing ram na nakakabit.


ah.... parang ang laki kasi 8gb heheh..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Jan 10, 2012 at 07:57 PM
ah.... parang ang laki kasi 8gb heheh..

sir isagad mo na ng 8GB, mura lang naman ang DDR3 ngayon. Mine im using Kingston Hyper X DDR1600 16GB (4x4GB) :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 10, 2012 at 08:38 PM
ah.... parang ang laki kasi 8gb heheh..
malaking factor din ang may extra ram.  :)
if i could, ill get 2x8gb.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 10, 2012 at 09:17 PM
sir isagad mo na ng 8GB, mura lang naman ang DDR3 ngayon. Mine im using Kingston Hyper X DDR1600 16GB (4x4GB) :)

I smell Sandy Bridge E.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 10, 2012 at 11:44 PM
malaking factor din ang may extra ram.  :)
if i could, ill get 2x8gb.  :)
me too brader jamy.i wish i could..
kaso 32bit lang OS ko ;D nyek.
so stock ako sa 4gb
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 11, 2012 at 01:03 AM
me too brader jamy.i wish i could..
kaso 32bit lang OS ko ;D nyek.
so stock ako sa 4gb

@stagea di ba ang limit ng 32 bit sa windows 7 is 4gb anything lagpas dun will be wasted. I only have windows 7 32 bit unless meron magpapahiram sa akin dito ng 64 bit.... :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 11, 2012 at 01:27 AM
@stagea di ba ang limit ng 32 bit sa windows 7 is 4gb anything lagpas dun will be wasted. I only have windows 7 32 bit unless meron magpapahiram sa akin dito ng 64 bit.... :)

Time to upgrade then.  ;) I'm not sure kung may relation ang 32bit or 64 bit sa limit ng transfer ng files...? I think it's more on sa pagkaka-format ng HDD.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 11, 2012 at 01:45 AM
@stagea di ba ang limit ng 32 bit sa windows 7 is 4gb anything lagpas dun will be wasted. I only have windows 7 32 bit unless meron magpapahiram sa akin dito ng 64 bit.... :)
if you need a 64bit installer lang, dami naman online.  i have a legit copy pero copy mo lang dvd ha wala nako legit product key eh   :)

Time to upgrade then.  ;) I'm not sure kung may relation ang 32bit or 64 bit sa limit ng transfer ng files...? I think it's more on sa pagkaka-format ng HDD.
DMF isa sa advantage ng Windows 7 64bit ay pwede mag install ng maximum of 192 GB RAM size.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 12, 2012 at 08:29 AM
if you need a 64bit installer lang, dami naman online.  i have a legit copy pero copy mo lang dvd ha wala nako legit product key eh   :)
DMF isa sa advantage ng Windows 7 64bit ay pwede mag install ng maximum of 192 GB RAM size.  :)

hehe mas maganda kung legit para mamaximize natin potential nun... and windows update na rin.. so kung 32 bit ako di na rin pala ako makikinabang sa 8gb ram tama??
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 12, 2012 at 08:44 AM
hehe mas maganda kung legit para mamaximize natin potential nun... and windows update na rin.. so kung 32 bit ako di na rin pala ako makikinabang sa 8gb ram tama??

At bawal po pagusapan ang piracy dito.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 12, 2012 at 08:50 AM
Kasi po, PDvd does NOT support illegal or pirated softwares and hardwares.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Jan 12, 2012 at 09:14 AM
Kasi po, PDvd does NOT support illegal or pirated softwares and hardwares.  ;)

hala .. pati pirated hardware nasama na .. di na pala pwede pag usapan ang CD-R King/quiapo/baclaran/greenhills 'products' LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 12, 2012 at 09:20 AM
Kasi po, PDvd does NOT support illegal or pirated softwares and hardwares.  ;)

tama kaya nga sabi ko mas maganda kung legit.. kasi gamit ko legit windows 7 32 bit.. sa memory lang ako naguguluhan kasi sabi 4gb lang max so kung mag lagay pala ako ng 8gb indi rin pala magagamit...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Jan 12, 2012 at 09:42 AM
32bit OS - WinXP,WinVista,Win7, WinServer (whether legit or not) = 4GB maximum memory address, 3GB-3.2GB maximum memory 'seen' by the OS because the 3-4GB area is for system resources mapping (you may even see only 2.98GB in windows if you have a 1GB-2GB video card since malaki kumain ng memory map ang video card)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_GB_barrier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_GB_barrier)

64bit OS - WinXP, WinVista, Win7, WinServer (whether legit or not) = 128GB (WinXP/Vista) aximum memory address, 192GB (Win7) maximum memory address, 1TB (Windows Server 2003) maximum memory address, 2TB (Windows Server 2008) maximum memory address.

If you are using a 64 bit OS, your only barrier to memory 'bliss' is hardware limitation of the # of memory slots, memory capacity of the actual module, and memory capacity of the chipset (northbridge) or of the memory controller of the processor (for AMD / Intel Core iX-YYYY).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 12, 2012 at 02:44 PM
It's not that simple. Windows Server comes in 32-bit variants that can address more than 4GB of RAM (2008 Enterprise and 2008 Datacenter for example). XP Starter is limited to using 512MB of RAM, Windows Vista Starter is limited to 1GB of RAM, while Windows 7 Starter is limited to 2GB of RAM.

Windows Vista / Windows 7 in Home Basic x86-64 and Home Premium x86-64 do not support more than 8GB and 16GB respectively. 64-bit Windows Server x86-64 variations also apply different artificial limitations to differentiate between the lines.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 12, 2012 at 07:50 PM
It's not that simple. Windows Server comes in 32-bit variants that can address more than 4GB of RAM (2008 Enterprise and 2008 Datacenter for example). XP Starter is limited to using 512MB of RAM, Windows Vista Starter is limited to 1GB of RAM, while Windows 7 Starter is limited to 2GB of RAM.

Windows Vista / Windows 7 in Home Basic x86-64 and Home Premium x86-64 do not support more than 8GB and 16GB respectively. 64-bit Windows Server x86-64 variations also apply different artificial limitations to differentiate between the lines.



ang gulo na... hehehe ito na lang po mabilisan na question windows 7 professional... putting 8gb ram will be useless tama po ba kasi limited  to 4gb ang 32bit..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 12, 2012 at 09:50 PM
ang gulo na... hehehe ito na lang po mabilisan na question windows 7 professional... putting 8gb ram will be useless tama po ba kasi limited  to 4gb ang 32bit..

Useless if you don't utilize it. Windows 7 Professional 32-bit can only manage 4GB, but there's nothing stopping you from allocating the unmanaged RAM for a RamDisk or some other purpose with the right utility. You can use a RAM drive for the page file and/or as an application scratch drive to improve performance.

The improvement may not be much, but you'd likely be thankful for investing in RAM once you migrate to a 64-bit OS.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 14, 2012 at 05:09 PM
Sulit yung HTPC ni Master Paul after calibration. Naluma yung PQ ng Fermi ko. ;D

As can be seen in the benchmark results below, computers do not normally deliver top-notch PQ without tweaking:
(http://tpucdn.com/reviews/HQV/HQV_2.0/images/scores.gif)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 14, 2012 at 09:42 PM
After my long day in Gilmore... Finally natapos ko na yung akin beloved HTPC... wahoo... Thanks to all your suggestions... Especially kay Master Stagea... sa walang kasawaan sa pagsasagot ng tanong ko... ngayon its time to test the unit... xmbc muna hehehe downloading time....

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k127/klpangan/DSC00108.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k127/klpangan/DSC00106.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k127/klpangan/DSC00104.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k127/klpangan/DSC00101.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 14, 2012 at 11:06 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/vd05yf.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/wqsfsy.jpg)

just wall mounted my dad's 55" htpc sa room niya:D hehe magulo pa wires:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 15, 2012 at 12:08 AM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/vd05yf.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/wqsfsy.jpg)

just wall mounted my dad's 55" htpc sa room niya:D hehe magulo pa wires:D

ano pong brand yan.. pm po how much and san.... heheheh thanks boss
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 15, 2012 at 12:46 AM
toshiba po yan.. 55SL417u from us.. surprisingly... so thin.. didnt expect it was going to be that thin...
around half the thickness of my lg led:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 15, 2012 at 04:34 AM
Congrats klpangan and AC!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 15, 2012 at 05:12 AM
After my long day in Gilmore... Finally natapos ko na yung akin beloved HTPC... wahoo... Thanks to all your suggestions... Especially kay Master Stagea... sa walang kasawaan sa pagsasagot ng tanong ko... ngayon its time to test the unit... xmbc muna hehehe downloading time....

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Congrats on your new HTPC!  I hope it would turn out as you expected.  XBMC is ok in screens up to 42 inches.  Bigger than that, I think you should use an external player already such as PowerDVD, ARCsoft TMT, etc. for a better PQ.  Also invest in a good HTPC remote para kumpletos recados.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 15, 2012 at 09:59 AM
Congrats on your new HTPC!  I hope it would turn out as you expected.  XBMC is ok in screens up to 42 inches.  Bigger than that, I think you should use an external player already such as PowerDVD, ARCsoft TMT, etc. for a better PQ.  Also invest in a good HTPC remote para kumpletos recados.  ;D

thanks po stagea...

@nerveblocker di ko pa setup OS ko hehe... try ko yung xbmc live ito tamang download and also download ako ng Ultra OS di ko nga alam paano ko simulan windows 7 ko kung ano mga software hehehe.. pero bahala na san ko kaya pede audition ito
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 15, 2012 at 12:00 PM
One of my undervolted builds... 5w running Aero. e450, 8 gigs of ram, wifi, bt, notebook hdd.
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k175/stagea/IMG00051-20120115-1204.jpg)

It goes down to 4w or less pa pag sinagad ang settings. Lower consumption than mga dedicated media player. :P

HQV 2.0 score of 179 isn't great for an AMD setup, but it's good enough to be comparable to my main desktop (which is set back by Nvidia graphics).

Current AMD GPUs reach close to 200 na kasi out of the 210 na perfect score.

In comparison, the WDTV Live Plus gets a score of 43 (as per AnandTech). The best dedicated media tanks get to the 90s.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Jan 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Congrats on your new HTPC!  I hope it would turn out as you expected.  XBMC is ok in screens up to 42 inches.  Bigger than that, I think you should use an external player already such as PowerDVD, ARCsoft TMT, etc. for a better PQ.  Also invest in a good HTPC remote para kumpletos recados.  ;D

What's a good HTPC remote? Yung kayang i-control sana yung PowerDVD and TMT? :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 15, 2012 at 12:58 PM
One of my undervolted builds... 5w running Aero. e450, 8 gigs of ram, wifi, bt, notebook hdd.
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k175/stagea/IMG00051-20120115-1204.jpg)

It goes down to 4w or less pa pag sinagad ang settings. Lower consumption than mga dedicated media player. :P

HQV 2.0 score of 179 isn't great for an AMD setup, but it's good enough to be comparable to my main desktop (which is set back by Nvidia graphics).

Current AMD GPUs reach close to 200 na kasi out of the 210 na perfect score.

In comparison, the WDTV Live Plus gets a score of 43 (as per AnandTech). The best dedicated media tanks get to the 90s.

astig baba nian ah... i just finished downloading xbmc live and installed it on to a USB Key ito ang aking experience

1. Sobrang bagal ng menu.... bakit kaya?
2. Walang sound nalabas sa TV connected to HDMI same goes for the audio controller kahit nakakabit na sa line in...

may namiss ba ako i followed naman ang instruction on how to install xbmc live sa usb
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 15, 2012 at 01:19 PM
It often takes time before XBMC Live / Linux supports new hardware. I don't think Llano hardware acceleration is supported at this point. You may have to wait some more and stick with Windows for now.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 15, 2012 at 02:59 PM
One of my undervolted builds... 5w running Aero. e450, 8 gigs of ram, wifi, bt, notebook hdd.
It goes down to 4w or less pa pag sinagad ang settings. Lower consumption than mga dedicated media player. :P
parang gusto ko undervolt yung laptop ko ah!  :D :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 15, 2012 at 04:53 PM
parang gusto ko undervolt yung laptop ko ah!  :D :D

I adjust the emf per processor state and iba iba ang levels sa mga iba ibang parts nung processor to get the most benefit (depende na sa tweakability nung gamit). Aside from managing individual subsystems within the processor, I also tweak signalling levels and the voltages applied to RAM, the I/O hub, and the GPU. Pero hindi pa ako nagpapatay ng features ng board dahil sayang naman yung features na binayaran (though that can further bring down consumption). Siyempre kailangan din ayusin sa software-side. Ang OS ko is full fat pa din lagi (all features are on), more on power management options ang ginagalaw ko.

I have some undervolted notebooks too, aside from my desktops. Battery run-time improved significantly, and they are whisper-quiet during operation (since the fans can run at very low speeds). Nakita ni Paul yung Llano notebook ko with a 9+ hour run-time with the standard battery (partida, powering a dac pa yun). May Sandy Bridge notebook ako with a 6-7 hour battery run-time on the standard batt (with wifi and bt on).

Generally, mas malakas sa konsumo yung computer (like higher end models or older designs), mas malaki ang benefits sa tweaking na ganito. Pero maski nga sa mga Diamondville at Ontario na sobra tipid na, noticeable pa din.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 15, 2012 at 08:31 PM
It often takes time before XBMC Live / Linux supports new hardware. I don't think Llano hardware acceleration is supported at this point. You may have to wait some more and stick with Windows for now.

aw... kaya pala... hmmm gusto ko kasi pede din bootable usb yung media player ko heheh.. no need to boot to windows :D any suggestion?? ano po ba yung openlec??

napansin ko mejo mainit yung rig ko umabot kanina ng 60... hala bakit ganun indi ata successful yun buo ko...

wala ako watt tester baka mataas din ito waaaa....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 15, 2012 at 08:31 PM
What's a good HTPC remote? Yung kayang i-control sana yung PowerDVD and TMT? :)

So far happy ako dito

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21e-bZgZQhL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Windows Media Center Remote

Using it with XBMC with PowerDVD as external player.  As long as you don't go to your desktop and stick to your media center ala NMT OK to.   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 15, 2012 at 09:48 PM
napansin ko mejo mainit yung rig ko umabot kanina ng 60... hala bakit ganun indi ata successful yun buo ko...

Ayusin mo software at hardware config baka naka defaults ka pa. Saka ang consumption medyo mas mataas talaga kung wala kang hardware acceleration dahil mataas ang load nung cpu (kung under xbmc live). Aside from that, dahil hindi pa supported ang features nung APU mo eh hindi din siguro gumagana ang power saving features.

I suggest sticking with Windows for now, if you want to utilize what your hardware has to offer.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 15, 2012 at 11:05 PM
Ayusin mo software at hardware config baka naka defaults ka pa. Saka ang consumption medyo mas mataas talaga kung wala kang hardware acceleration dahil mataas ang load nung cpu (kung under xbmc live). Aside from that, dahil hindi pa supported ang features nung APU mo eh hindi din siguro gumagana ang power saving features.

I suggest sticking with Windows for now, if you want to utilize what your hardware has to offer.

sa bios setup palang po umaabot na ng 60 bakit ganun??? wala naman ako ginagalaw pa.. so dapat adjust din ako.. pahiram po ako ng watt meter nila :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM
Full power po ang PC pag nasa BIOS kayo kaya normal na uminit yan. Dapat po within Windows kayo magmeasure para temperature at consumption sa actual use ang makita niyo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM
sa bios setup palang po umaabot na ng 60 bakit ganun??? wala naman ako ginagalaw pa.. so dapat adjust din ako.. pahiram po ako ng watt meter nila :D
dami pwede factors nung heat ng setup mo.  pero imo sa liit kasi ng casing, at sa dami rin ng siksik na gears sa loob, normal lang siguro yan.  just to know kung casing nga ang factor, leave it off for 5-10 minutes, then boot while the side panel is out.  

pero bago mo gawin ito, try mo muna yung latest advise ni master Stageaness :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 15, 2012 at 11:37 PM
dami pwede factors nung heat ng setup mo.  pero imo sa liit kasi ng casing, at sa dami rin ng siksik na gears sa loob, normal lang siguro yan.  just to know kung casing nga ang factor, leave it off for 5-10 minutes, then boot while the side panel is out. 

Wala din gaano vents no? Parang designed pang Atom yung casing.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 16, 2012 at 02:34 AM
Wala din gaano vents no? Parang designed pang Atom yung casing.

Wala masyado papamod ko nga ito para magkavent pero sabi aa akin ni eric sa pchub good brand daw ung casing iwin ang tatak mejo pricy din 2800 ko nabili pero ok lang ganda naman hehehe.... Sige will try ur suggestion and give u an update thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 16, 2012 at 08:23 AM
Wala masyado papamod ko nga ito para magkavent pero sabi aa akin ni eric sa pchub good brand daw ung casing iwin ang tatak mejo pricy din 2800 ko nabili pero ok lang ganda naman hehehe.... Sige will try ur suggestion and give u an update thanks

I just saw a clearer image of your case ('in win' ata yan and not iwin). Ganda ng mounting options, pwede sa likod ng screen.  

Mukhang medyo ok din naman yun ventilation. Boot to windows muna and play with your settings. SATA SSD ba gamit mo na main storage/boot drive?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 16, 2012 at 09:29 AM
I just saw a clearer image of your case ('in win' ata yan and not iwin). Ganda ng mounting options, pwede sa likod ng screen.  

Mukhang medyo ok din naman yun ventilation. Boot to windows muna and play with your settings. SATA SSD ba gamit mo na main storage/boot drive?

uu kakatuwa nga ganda niya pogi nga twag ng mga tao dun yung nakitang binubuo ko yung pc sa gilmore hehehe... try ko po muna laruin settings ko sa windows... ano ano po ba mga reading material masuggest nino or how to make it lower???

ito yung specs ng board ko if anyone is interested... http://www.in-win.com.tw/products_pccase_series.php?cat_id=1&series_id=81&model_id=497
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 16, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Mukhang medyo ok din naman yun ventilation. Boot to windows muna and play with your settings. SATA SSD ba gamit mo na main storage/boot drive?
ventilation looks OK nga but these components are jam-packed in a very tight space.
but IMO 60c is not that bad, ano ba max tdp ba or techjunction ng processor?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 16, 2012 at 12:21 PM
ventilation looks OK nga but these components are jam-packed in a very tight space.
but IMO 60c is not that bad, ano ba max tdp ba or techjunction ng processor?

tdp 65w... pero so far okay naman napagana ko din un usb key player using openlec... astig 1gb na flashdrive lang gamit ko may player ka na hahhaa.... pero di ko pa namamanage ng maige... now aral ako how to manage multiple OS using ultra OS.... pede kasi boot sa openlec, ultraOS and windows 7
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Jan 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM
So far happy ako dito

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21e-bZgZQhL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Windows Media Center Remote

Using it with XBMC with PowerDVD as external player.  As long as you don't go to your desktop and stick to your media center ala NMT OK to.   ;D

Thanks! Looks good. Pero pagaralan ko muna ito kasi kung minsan may mga changes na kailangan palitan sa Windows like yung video refresh rate and post-processing settings.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: omsky on Jan 16, 2012 at 03:38 PM
Sir san po nakakabile nito locally, may kasama na po bang rf reciever?

na try ko cd-r king before pero not satisfied sa range... tia

So far happy ako dito

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21e-bZgZQhL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Windows Media Center Remote

Using it with XBMC with PowerDVD as external player.  As long as you don't go to your desktop and stick to your media center ala NMT OK to.   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 17, 2012 at 04:27 AM
@klpangan

I think Linux Catalyst drivers that are Llano-aware are now available. Check if this works for your XMBC Live installation.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM
@klpangan

I think Linux Catalyst drivers that are Llano-aware are now available. Check if this works for your XMBC Live installation.

hmmm paano po install un hehehe... as of now openlec gamit ko maganda response niya problem ko lang ayaw gumana HDMI pagsound
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 18, 2012 at 12:53 AM
You can ask the XBMC gurus. I personally don't use or like it.
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Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 18, 2012 at 07:20 AM
Thanks! Looks good. Pero pagaralan ko muna ito kasi kung minsan may mga changes na kailangan palitan sa Windows like yung video refresh rate and post-processing settings.

May mouse function naman to.  Pero kung talagang makalikot ka sa settings ng PC, you are better off with a wireless mouse and keyboard.  The remote I posted is only for the ease of an NMT if ypu are running a media center such as XBMC, Media Portal, Moovida, etc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 18, 2012 at 07:24 AM
Sir san po nakakabile nito locally, may kasama na po bang rf reciever?

na try ko cd-r king before pero not satisfied sa range... tia


Bought it online from amazon.  Pero meron napost si Toys4Geeks na mini wireless keyboard and trackpad that he is selling sa buy and sell.  Here is his post.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,151498.0.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: juicepogi on Jan 18, 2012 at 07:50 AM
Sir/s help  ;D

I have an extra E2140 Procie.. Planning to use this for my HTPC. Please recommend a budget mobo that has HDMI and Optical out. TIA!  ;D
 
Cheers!  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 18, 2012 at 08:43 AM
Sir/s help  ;D

I have an extra E2140 Procie.. Planning to use this for my HTPC. Please recommend a budget mobo that has HDMI and Optical out. TIA!  ;D
 
Cheers!  ;)

Here's my honest opinion: That's an older processor. It might be more cost effective to buy a new one, rather than to build a system around it.

The money that you'd save in a processor would be spent on a graphics card, if you were to build a system around that processor. You'd probably end up losing in the end (you get older tech and lower performance, yet you pay the same amount).

You can move up to a present-day entry level processor (like a current Pentium/Celeron, or a Fusion A4) and reap the benefits from tech advancements of the past half a decade.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 18, 2012 at 12:15 PM
Here's my honest opinion: That's an older processor. It might be more cost effective to buy a new one, rather than to build a system around it.

The money that you'd save in a processor would be spent on a graphics card, if you were to build a system around that processor. You'd probably end up losing in the end (you get older tech and lower performance, yet you pay the same amount).

You can move up to a present-day entry level processor (like a current Pentium/Celeron, or a Fusion A4) and reap the benefits from tech advancements of the past half a decade.
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most of us think that if we already have one piece of the puzzle, madali na.  pero sa totoo lang mas mahal ng kaunti ang lumang motherboard, at ang lumang memory.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM
You can ask the XBMC gurus. I personally don't use or like it.

sino po mga XBMC gurus dito.. pa help po.. :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 18, 2012 at 12:18 PM
sino po mga XBMC gurus dito.. pa help po.. :D
nerveblocker  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 18, 2012 at 01:13 PM
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most of us think that if we already have one piece of the puzzle, madali na.  pero sa totoo lang mas mahal ng kaunti ang lumang motherboard, at ang lumang memory.  :)

yup i agree.
dahilan kasi ng mga old pc parts sellers bihira ka na makakakuha so they sell it sometimes more expensive than new model/tech parts.local seller dito sa place ko they sell 486 mobo for 1.5k :o ???
WTF!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Jan 18, 2012 at 01:26 PM
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most of us think that if we already have one piece of the puzzle, madali na.  pero sa totoo lang mas mahal ng kaunti ang lumang motherboard, at ang lumang memory.  :)

Tumpak....tapos problema pa kung may ma-bi-bili ka pag bumigay ang piyesa na luma.  :'(

BTW....hindi kaunti ang mahal.....sobra mahal nang luma.

for e.g. IDE HDD vs. SATA HDD(kahit bagong presyo ngayon)
           DDR vs DDR 2 vs DDR3 (kung may mabibili kang brand new he-he)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 18, 2012 at 07:18 PM
nerveblocker  :D


kausap ko na po siya offline heheh... sino po malapit sa pasay baka may gusto magpatry ng watt meter nila :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 18, 2012 at 09:13 PM
nerveblocker  :D


Uy di naman.  Di ko pa master ang Weather!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 27, 2012 at 12:38 PM
up ko lang po mukang nanahimk na yung thread... i just installed windows 7 on my asrock a75m htpc setup... sino po naka a75m na board dito okay ba yung mga utilities na kasama niya parang feel ko useless eh....

sa htpc setup anong software recommend ninyo.. am still learning xmbc thanks to sir nerveblocker sa pagsagot ng mga inquiries ko... for windows ano magandang software before i was using mpc-ht and vlc tapos naka coreavc ako yun lang heheh pero wala akong management software for my music....

hope to get some suggestion sa mga guru dito...

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: saolmatt on Jan 27, 2012 at 04:57 PM
Hi sir nerveblocker.  i saw you are one of XMBC guru here.  can you help me with my youtube addon.  it was working before but after i upgraded to Eden version , youtube add on is no longer working.  i already upgraded the youtube version and tried to remove the addon and put it back again but it is still not working.  by the way im using it on Lion OS.  thank you sir.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 28, 2012 at 06:16 AM
Hi sir nerveblocker.  i saw you are one of XMBC guru here.  can you help me with my youtube addon.  it was working before but after i upgraded to Eden version , youtube add on is no longer working.  i already upgraded the youtube version and tried to remove the addon and put it back again but it is still not working.  by the way im using it on Lion OS.  thank you sir.

Is youtube working fine via your browser? MAC Lion OS have reported Audio/Video problems.

Lion OS Audio/Video Problems (http://blog.erikphansen.com/weird-os-10-7-lion-audiovideo-problems)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: saolmatt on Jan 28, 2012 at 07:11 AM
@ nerveblocker,  i tried through my safari browser and it works fine.  by the way im getting playback failed error message when using youtube in xbmc
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Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 28, 2012 at 11:47 AM
@ nerveblocker,  i tried through my safari browser and it works fine.  by the way im getting playback failed error message when using youtube in xbmc

It must be an XBMC Eden bug based on this thread (http://blog.erikphansen.com/weird-os-10-7-lion-audiovideo-problems).  Try to use the previous XBMC release like Dharma nalang until this bug is fixed.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: saolmatt on Jan 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM
i see,  thank you sir.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: saolmatt on Jan 28, 2012 at 12:18 PM
guys, can you please help me advice .  im planning to build my first htpc setup.  and im thinking of going to below specs.  can you please comment if its okay or suggest an Intel counterpart that i can compare and think about.

ASRock A75M
AMD A8-3850
Scythe Big Shuriken
Corsair Vengeance LP 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz Low Profile Blue
gigabyte 400W 
western digital 320gb sata blue
logitech k400
silverstone Grandia 06 black micro ATX
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 28, 2012 at 12:42 PM
guys, can you please help me advice .  im planning to build my first htpc setup.  and im thinking of going to below specs.  can you please comment if its okay or suggest an Intel counterpart that i can compare and think about.

ASRock A75M
AMD A8-3850
Scythe Big Shuriken
Corsair Vengeance LP 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz Low Profile Blue
gigabyte 400W 
western digital 320gb sata blue
logitech k400
silverstone Grandia 06 black micro ATX

pre am gamit ko yung board na asrock and memory sulit yan.. mas mataas na yung proc mo compare sa akin.. pero wala ka ng pagsisisihan dian...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 29, 2012 at 09:54 AM
guys, can you please help me advice .  im planning to build my first htpc setup.  and im thinking of going to below specs.  can you please comment if its okay or suggest an Intel counterpart that i can compare and think about.

ASRock A75M
AMD A8-3850
Scythe Big Shuriken
Corsair Vengeance LP 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz Low Profile Blue
gigabyte 400W
western digital 320gb sata blue
logitech k400
silverstone Grandia 06 black micro ATX

The A8-3870 Black won't cost you much more, baka mas sulit. You can increase the GPU clock multiplier para kayanin ang full deck ng video post-processing. :)

Going for the 500GB Caviar Blue may also help, as you'd get a full platter (given it's a current model drive) instead of the scaled down 320GB version.

Intel okay din if you don't care much for post-processing, or kung balak mo mag dedicated video later on.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jhelenz on Jan 29, 2012 at 10:10 AM
guys, can you please help me advice .  im planning to build my first htpc setup.  and im thinking of going to below specs.  can you please comment if its okay or suggest an Intel counterpart that i can compare and think about.

ASRock A75M
AMD A8-3850
Scythe Big Shuriken
Corsair Vengeance LP 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz Low Profile Blue
gigabyte 400W 
western digital 320gb sata blue
logitech k400
silverstone Grandia 06 black micro ATX
nasa magkano canvass mo nyan sir?thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: saolmatt on Jan 30, 2012 at 08:58 AM
Thanks @stagea.  can you please suggest specs from intel that you  would recommend.


@ Jehelenz.  more or less 24k
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 30, 2012 at 09:50 AM
Thanks @stagea.  can you please suggest specs from intel that you  would recommend.


@ Jehelenz.  more or less 24k

A system with an i3-2100, an H61-based mainboard (preferably one with USB 3.0) and an HD 6570 gpu would be pretty close in capability, from a purely htpc standpoint. You can opt for ddr3-1333 ram if it's gonna be cheaper, as current intel sandy bridge processors do not officially support faster memory.

If you plan to go GPU-less (or plan to get a nicer GPU later on), an i5 (especially the i5-2500k) may be a more capable option.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: saolmatt on Jan 30, 2012 at 11:13 AM
thanks @stagea for the advice
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 30, 2012 at 09:14 PM
Congrats on your new HTPC!  I hope it would turn out as you expected.  XBMC is ok in screens up to 42 inches.  Bigger than that, I think you should use an external player already such as PowerDVD, ARCsoft TMT, etc. for a better PQ.  Also invest in a good HTPC remote para kumpletos recados.  ;D

based dun po sa sinabi ninyo??? ano pinaka okay na player dian??? panget ba ang mpc??? and anong codec and need ko?? ngayon kasi i tried windows media center ang bagal ng response ng PC and pag full screen blurred ang fonts... sa xbmc naman yung 1080p ko na wanted ang bagal sobra hay... nakakabaliw na ito hehehe tapos yung kulay ng tao masyadong warm... reddish siya....

A75M users.. pa help naman sa setup if ever na may mali ako...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raymonddelprado on Jan 30, 2012 at 10:47 PM
After my long day in Gilmore... Finally natapos ko na yung akin beloved HTPC... wahoo... Thanks to all your suggestions... Especially kay Master Stagea... sa walang kasawaan sa pagsasagot ng tanong ko... ngayon its time to test the unit... xmbc muna hehehe downloading time....

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k127/klpangan/DSC00108.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k127/klpangan/DSC00106.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k127/klpangan/DSC00104.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k127/klpangan/DSC00101.jpg)

sir how much inabot yun htpc setup nyo po?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Jan 30, 2012 at 10:58 PM
based dun po sa sinabi ninyo??? ano pinaka okay na player dian??? panget ba ang mpc??? and anong codec and need ko?? ngayon kasi i tried windows media center ang bagal ng response ng PC and pag full screen blurred ang fonts... sa xbmc naman yung 1080p ko na wanted ang bagal sobra hay... nakakabaliw na ito hehehe tapos yung kulay ng tao masyadong warm... reddish siya....

A75M users.. pa help naman sa setup if ever na may mali ako...

A75M din gamit ko. Try mo PowerDVD. Maganda PQ and SQ niyan. Also play around with the settings of the AMD Vision Engine Control Center. Check mo din video settings ng TV/monitor. Baka kaya warm and reddish kasi hindi lang nacalibrate ng maayos.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 31, 2012 at 12:29 AM
sir how much inabot yun htpc setup nyo po?

almost 12 po... wala pa HDD.. pero kung mag SSD ka abot 16k
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 31, 2012 at 12:33 AM
A75M din gamit ko. Try mo PowerDVD. Maganda PQ and SQ niyan. Also play around with the settings of the AMD Vision Engine Control Center. Check mo din video settings ng TV/monitor. Baka kaya warm and reddish kasi hindi lang nacalibrate ng maayos.

tried splash pro po ganda ng quality di lumabas yung reddish di tulad sa xbmc... sa windows media center nagkaissue po ba kayo?? kasi sa akin pagfull screen blurred ang fonts and ang bagal sobra.... anong driver po gamit niyo sa cd?? or downloaded from ATI?? tingin ko driver issue eh...

anyway haven't tried powerDVD... pede ko po ba malaman setup ninyo???

nagandahan kasi ako sa XBMC dahil sa file management... so pede ako magxbmc for my file management then play sa external player now ang question anong magandang player... will test powerdvd...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 31, 2012 at 02:18 AM
Have you used this software successfully before you built the PC? Mukhang hindi yan driver issue; it's more like a software configuration problem.

Start with the very basics. Disable post-processing features under Catalyst. Try a capable codec like Divx then enable Hardware Acceleration. Test Windows Media Player then turn on DirectX Video Acceleration. Pag napaubra mo na ng maayos, saka ka na magexplore ng ibang players.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 31, 2012 at 04:05 AM
nagandahan kasi ako sa XBMC dahil sa file management... so pede ako magxbmc for my file management then play sa external player now ang question anong magandang player... will test powerdvd...
subjective na when it comes to choosing an external player.   i myself prefer the KMPlayer for 720p and up.  some find this player over vibrant  ;D 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 31, 2012 at 05:55 AM
Ako XBMC with PowerDVD as external player.  This is a good combination IMHO.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 31, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Have you used this software successfully before you built the PC? Mukhang hindi yan driver issue; it's more like a software configuration problem.

Start with the very basics. Disable post-processing features under Catalyst. Try a capable codec like Divx then enable Hardware Acceleration. Test Windows Media Player then turn on DirectX Video Acceleration. Pag napaubra mo na ng maayos, saka ka na magexplore ng ibang players.

sa lappy ko yup napagana ko naman yung WMC sa new build ko naexperience pero sobra fresh install po ito wala pa ako install na codec or ano expect for xmbc and last night splash pro... will try po your suggestion will let you know the outcome... thanks po
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Jan 31, 2012 at 12:58 PM
subjective na when it comes to choosing an external player.   i myself prefer the KMPlayer for 720p and up.  some find this player over vibrant  ;D 

yup i know po medjo subjective yung question ko kasi iba iba tayo ng preference... I just want to get a survey on whos using which.... para magkaknowledge din ako on the pros and cons so I can also share it with others...

I was able to try KMPlayer maganda ang quality niya pero in terms of tweaking and dami mo pedeng iset which para sa mga non techie or tamad magbasa ng setup will find it complicated. :)

MPC ayos ito as long as may proper codec ka... coreavc and ffdshow solve na...

SplashPRO kakatry ko lang kagabi okay ang player na ito minimalistic and simple to setup.... may portable version pa siya :)

sa xmbc naman ang ganda ng file management pero nagkakaproblema ako sa internal player niya so I will use xmbc for managing my files only.. WMC kasi di ko pa masolve yung problema ng blurred font hay.. dami kong problema.... sino po malapit sa pasay dian ehhehe house visit naman ako sa mga setup niyo.. wanted to see yung mga live action setups ng mga guru dito.. sana may mini eb count me in....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rexFi on Jan 31, 2012 at 05:08 PM
Ako XBMC with PowerDVD as external player.  This is a good combination IMHO.

+1 imho.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 02, 2012 at 12:44 PM
i agree xmbc plus power dvd.. pedeng pede... walang hassle sa setup pede din ang splash pro if you don't want to install additional codecs.... so far am happy with my file manager and player..

tweaking na lang para sa quality kasi nasolve ko na yung issue na parang lechon yung mga tao by lowering the saturation.. next ko mejo noisy ang quality parang maabo siya... compared to when am using vga any suggestions po?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Feb 03, 2012 at 07:49 PM
i agree xmbc plus power dvd.. pedeng pede... walang hassle sa setup pede din ang splash pro if you don't want to install additional codecs.... so far am happy with my file manager and player..

tweaking na lang para sa quality kasi nasolve ko na yung issue na parang lechon yung mga tao by lowering the saturation.. next ko mejo noisy ang quality parang maabo siya... compared to when am using vga any suggestions po?
what do you mean maabo?
maabo or grainy thing on movies are normal.in fact, sometimes thats what the director want us to see.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 03, 2012 at 08:39 PM
what do you mean maabo?
maabo or grainy thing on movies are normal.in fact, sometimes thats what the director want us to see.


yup grainy po.. hehe mejo parang di sanay mata ko.. laking anime kasi ako kaya ms okay sa akin pag malinis..... will post pics o compare
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Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 03, 2012 at 10:14 PM
klpangan post ka ng sample movie na "maabo". 
title nalang muna tsaka na screenshot :)
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Post by: klpangan on Feb 04, 2012 at 03:32 PM
klpangan post ka ng sample movie na "maabo". 
title nalang muna tsaka na screenshot :)

wanted 1080p po.... karamihan ng 1080p ko ganun
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 04, 2012 at 03:59 PM
Karl Wanted is one of the grainiest films Ive ever watched.

wanted 1080p po.... karamihan ng 1080p ko ganun
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 04, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Karl Wanted is one of the grainiest films Ive ever watched.


hi sir.. musta long time no time... heheh finally naka HTPC setup na ako... hehe ganun pala yun sige will try another title so normal pala yun whahahah
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Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 04, 2012 at 04:58 PM
hi sir.. musta long time no time... heheh finally naka HTPC setup na ako... hehe ganun pala yun sige will try another title so normal pala yun whahahah
yes bro ganun nga  :)
madalas kasi pumapangit ang movie pag tinanggal ang noise, lalo na pag ganun talaga ang pagkakagawa sa kanya.  subukan mo anime, kung may noise parin iba usapan na yun  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Feb 04, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Tigerland saksakan ng abo
:D :D :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 04, 2012 at 11:06 PM
Good example of very clean image would be The Social Network.  If your HTPC shows this movie as grainy, that would have to be fake grains.

XXX contents din, mostly no grains - kasi wala ring story.  Hehehe

Dont make your HTPC set-up too complicated.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 04, 2012 at 11:10 PM
Dont make your HTPC set-up too complicated.
ditto :)

bro allan ano pala player gamit mo ngayon madalas? 
for mkv im using vlc more vs. kmplayer, though mas OK parin yung colors ng kmplayer, may issues naman ako sa playback minsan  :-[
for BD kasi TMT/arcsoft ako, having issues with cyberdvd kasi :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 04, 2012 at 11:47 PM
KMP and VLC rin for most high def stuff but I like WMP for low def contents because the image quality is nicer.   ffdshow ang default external codec ko but CoreAVC is still installed and can be selected if I need to.   I prefer the color saturation of ffdshow

TMT3 for pure BD, but PDVD Ultra is still installed in my PC for HD-DVD.  I have TMT5 but never installed it yet because TMT3 is enough, up to now.

However, PCH-A200 na for the most part since Apr 2010, except if I want to be intimate with my CRT PC monitor...hehehe, or 2.1 PC speaker sound will suffice (the main HT is no longer connected to the PC).

Then I have utilities like Aegis Sub, SubtitleEdit, MKVMerge, MediaInfo, Xilisoft Video Converter, Bluray Region Code Remover, Virtual Clone Drive and Daemon Tools - used only when necessary.

Not interested in any jukebox stuff.   Installed and played with XBMC a few years back but got tired of it within a day.  Not my cup of tea.  I prefer simple title list that informs all relevant specs of each title.


ditto :)

bro allan ano pala player gamit mo ngayon madalas? 
for mkv im using vlc more vs. kmplayer, though mas OK parin yung colors ng kmplayer, may issues naman ako sa playback minsan  :-[
for BD kasi TMT/arcsoft ako, having issues with cyberdvd kasi :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 05, 2012 at 12:40 AM
KMP and VLC rin for most high def stuff but I like WMP for low def contents because the image quality is nicer.   

oo nga same here, except it does not have the option for "full screen", kaya vlc nalang  :D

ffdshow ang default external codec ko but CoreAVC is still installed and can be selected if I need to.   I prefer the color saturation of ffdshow

never used ffdshow.  though i read that it is better.

TMT3 for pure BD, but PDVD Ultra is still installed in my PC for HD-DVD.  I have TMT5 but never installed it yet because TMT3 is enough, up to now.

ewan ko sa PDVD, worked well for others, pero for some reason laging stereo lang or legacy DD and DTS ang labas sakin.  and i dont like the controls ;D

However, PCH-A200 na for the most part since Apr 2010, except if I want to be intimate with my CRT PC monitor...hehehe, or 2.1 PC speaker sound will suffice (the main HT is no longer connected to the PC).

Then I have utilities like Aegis Sub, SubtitleEdit, MKVMerge, MediaInfo, Xilisoft Video Converter, Bluray Region Code Remover, Virtual Clone Drive and Daemon Tools - used only when necessary.

im having issues with some bluray ISO that i have using free daemon :(

Not interested in any jukebox stuff.   Installed and played with XBMC a few years back but got tired of it within a day.  Not my cup of tea.  I prefer simple title list that informs all relevant specs of each title.

XBMC is not for me too, though i always wanted to try it again whenever im at nerveblocker's HT.  parang ang dali lang kasi i-setup pag sya ang gumagamit
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 05, 2012 at 02:56 PM
ano magandang htpc case na pwedeng lagyan ng bluray drive?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 05, 2012 at 06:02 PM
ano magandang htpc case na pwedeng lagyan ng bluray drive?

case ko po heheh liit lang lang peroslim type lang pede dun
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 05, 2012 at 06:17 PM
case ko po heheh liit lang lang peroslim type lang pede dun

Anong brand and how much sya? slim type na bd drive lang pwede?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 05, 2012 at 08:16 PM
ano magandang htpc case na pwedeng lagyan ng bluray drive?
check my sig  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 06, 2012 at 10:26 AM
ano magandang htpc case na pwedeng lagyan ng bluray drive?

Depende po kung anong maganda for you. Andyan na din po ang budget nyo, space constraints niyo, and anong balak niyong ilagay na laman.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 06, 2012 at 03:59 PM
Depende po kung anong maganda for you. Andyan na din po ang budget nyo, space constraints niyo, and anong balak niyong ilagay na laman.


Brader eto plan ko:

AMD Llano A8 3870 3.0ghz, gpu: hd6550d 600mhz
MSI A75MA G55
Kingston HyperX Genesis (Dual) 2x2gb ddr3 1600 CL9 (KHX1600C9AD3K2/4G) x2
Seasonic (M12II) 520watts 80PLUS Bronze
Corsair H70 Hydro Series™ High Performance Dual-Fan Liquid CPU Cooler
Samsung Blu-Ray Combo Internal 12X
iPazzPort wireless keyboard

medyo malaki kasi h70 kaya plan ko spacious pero ka size ng normal receiver, budget up to 4k

check my sig  ;D ;D

wow ayos yan kaya lang prefered ko black para mag match sa ibang gears               
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 06, 2012 at 04:02 PM

wow ayos yan kaya lang prefered ko black para mag match sa ibang gears               
yup mas OK talaga black.  ;D ;D
pero black with silver trimming sana mas OK.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 06, 2012 at 04:06 PM
yup mas OK talaga black.  ;D ;D
pero black with silver trimming sana mas OK.  :)

i agree, brader san mo nabili ung case mo baka may ibang color sila?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 06, 2012 at 04:21 PM
Anong brand and how much sya? slim type na bd drive lang pwede?

2300 ko po nabil.... up slim type lang sa gilmore... malapit sa gaisano
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 06, 2012 at 04:43 PM

Brader eto plan ko:

AMD Llano A8 3870 3.0ghz, gpu: hd6550d 600mhz
MSI A75MA G55
Kingston HyperX Genesis (Dual) 2x2gb ddr3 1600 CL9 (KHX1600C9AD3K2/4G) x2
Seasonic (M12II) 520watts 80PLUS Bronze
Corsair H70 Hydro Series™ High Performance Dual-Fan Liquid CPU Cooler
Samsung Blu-Ray Combo Internal 12X
iPazzPort wireless keyboard

medyo malaki kasi h70 kaya plan ko spacious pero ka size ng normal receiver, budget up to 4k

wow ayos yan kaya lang prefered ko black para mag match sa ibang gears                

Medyo mataas po prices ng htpc cases kesa mga tower type usually. Baka makulangan yung 4k kung malaking case ang hanap niyo.

Since malaking case ang balak niyo, baka gusto niyo din mag dedicated video for post-processing flexibility. The A8's on-chip 6550D is capable of decent post-processing (especially when the GPU is clocked higher), but if you want the capability to do full post processing at 1080p 60Hz, baka HD 6750/6770 or higher ang kailangan. Higher pa if you want to do this in 3D or 120Hz.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: comgen on Feb 06, 2012 at 04:56 PM
Mga Bosing baka me nakapag experiment na sa inyo kung sino mas ok ang quality over the 2

1. PC - HDMI - AVR
2. PC - External Sound Card(e.g. Encore na tinda sa CDR King) - Toslink - AVR
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 06, 2012 at 05:00 PM
Medyo mataas po prices ng htpc cases kesa mga tower type usually. Baka makulangan yung 4k kung malaking case ang hanap niyo.

Since malaking case ang balak niyo, baka gusto niyo din mag dedicated video for post-processing flexibility. The A8's on-chip 6550D is capable of decent post-processing (especially when the GPU is clocked higher), but if you want the capability to do full post processing at 1080p 60Hz, baka HD 6750/6770 or higher ang kailangan. Higher pa if you want to do this in 3D or 120Hz.

brader should i go the intel way or stay with a8 and add a dedicated videocard later on?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 06, 2012 at 05:02 PM
Mga Bosing baka me nakapag experiment na sa inyo kung sino mas ok ang quality over the 2

1. PC - HDMI - AVR
2. PC - External Sound Card(e.g. Encore na tinda sa CDR King) - Toslink - AVR

May simplicity ang option 1. Plus ang HD audio only passes thru HDMI. Most receivers nowadays can process audio from HDMI na so less wiring, less prone sa errors.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 06, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Mga Bosing baka me nakapag experiment na sa inyo kung sino mas ok ang quality over the 2

1. PC - HDMI - AVR
2. PC - External Sound Card(e.g. Encore na tinda sa CDR King) - Toslink - AVR

Big factor po diyan ang jitter-rejection ng AVR niyo, with everything else being the same. Typically higher jitter po ang HDMI, pero limited naman ang supported formats ng Encore na sinasabi niyo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 06, 2012 at 05:15 PM
brader should i go the intel way or stay with a8 and add a dedicated videocard later on?

Either would work. Kung later pa ang video card, AMD may be in a better position to tide you over. Kung mabibili mo na ngayon yung video, then Intel might be the smarter choice since you get a bit more processing muscle.

If you just want a working HTPC with full post-processing, you can forego water cooling and go for a lower processor (G620/G630/i3/Athlon II/A6 would likely work just fine) and slower value ram. That'd save you enough money for a decent GPU.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 06, 2012 at 05:23 PM
Either would work. Kung later pa ang video card, AMD may be in a better position to tide you over. Kung mabibili mo na ngayon yung video, then Intel might be the smarter choice since you get a bit more processing muscle.

If you just want a working HTPC with full post-processing, you can forego water cooling and go for a lower processor (G620/G630/i3/Athlon II/A6 would likely work just fine) and slower value ram. That'd save you enough money for a decent GPU.

thanks brader i'll keep that in mind and check the prices again
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 06, 2012 at 05:26 PM
thanks brader i'll keep that in mind and check the prices again

You're welcome po. Yan lang naman is if you're interested in real-time video post-processing. Kung hindi naman eh kayang kaya na ng halos lahat ng solutions nowadays.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 06, 2012 at 11:15 PM
guys... paano niyo inaalagaan yung mga HDDs ninyo??? lalo na ung mga movie collection niyo?? ano gamit niyo enclosure?? or lahat ba yun nakasalpak sa pc ninyo??? am currently using ung dual dock pero parang duda ako kasi bare ung mga hdds....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Feb 07, 2012 at 12:55 AM
guys... paano niyo inaalagaan yung mga HDDs ninyo??? lalo na ung mga movie collection niyo?? ano gamit niyo enclosure?? or lahat ba yun nakasalpak sa pc ninyo??? am currently using ung dual dock pero parang duda ako kasi bare ung mga hdds....
this is my main concern why i got tower casing and not conventional htpc casing like silverstone.
now i already have 4 2tb and all of it is inside the cage ;D
nakasaksak lang pang OS then the other 3 unplugged.saksak lang pag may gusto panoorin.
i just print out list so i know what hdd to use  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 07, 2012 at 01:19 AM
I have all my internal HDDs plugged-in. It's quite inconvenient to keep on swapping them in/out. That also prevents them from being prone to accidental shock and other forms of damage from human handling.

My external drives are either plugged in or not, depending on need.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 07, 2012 at 06:38 AM
guys... paano niyo inaalagaan yung mga HDDs ninyo??? lalo na ung mga movie collection niyo?? ano gamit niyo enclosure?? or lahat ba yun nakasalpak sa pc ninyo??? am currently using ung dual dock pero parang duda ako kasi bare ung mga hdds....
in terms of longevity, for me lamang ang naka dual dock.  open air kasi at depende nalang kung lagi mo nagagalaw while running.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 07, 2012 at 10:58 AM
I have all my internal HDDs plugged-in. It's quite inconvenient to keep on swapping them in/out. That also prevents them from being prone to accidental shock and other forms of damage from human handling.

My external drives are either plugged in or not, depending on need.

anong gamit mo para sa external drives mo sir?? naka dock ka po ba or are you using NAS??? meron kasi yung mediasonic probox parang okay yun...

@ninjababez naka dual dock ako ngayon pero ang sakit sakit ng ginawa sa akin.. hahah bigla na lang naging unreadable or corrupted yung 1.5 TB ko waaaa.... di ko nga lam ano nangyari... steady naman siya... tapos nagcheck disk ako di na tapos... nabalik naman file system pero halos 50% ng file wala... kaya chkdsk ulit... hope makuha kung unti data recovery bagsak ko nito or in the end iyakan ko na lang yung mga lost files... :((
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Feb 07, 2012 at 03:37 PM
guys... paano niyo inaalagaan yung mga HDDs ninyo??? lalo na ung mga movie collection niyo?? ano gamit niyo enclosure?? or lahat ba yun nakasalpak sa pc ninyo??? am currently using ung dual dock pero parang duda ako kasi bare ung mga hdds....

base sa case mo mas ok kung mag Mediasonic Probox ka na lang
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 07, 2012 at 04:16 PM
anong gamit mo para sa external drives mo sir?? naka dock ka po ba or are you using NAS??? meron kasi yung mediasonic probox parang okay yun...

File server po gamit ko para sa network storage. :) Saka yung iba USB HDDs lang para portable.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 07, 2012 at 05:14 PM
base sa case mo mas ok kung mag Mediasonic Probox ka na lang

yup iniisip ko yung mediasonic... ito parang protected yung hdd ko ito nga nanlulumo ako kakarecover ng files.. hay kainis...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 07, 2012 at 05:15 PM
File server po gamit ko para sa network storage. :) Saka yung iba USB HDDs lang para portable.

wow nakaNAS pala kayo bigat naman.....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 07, 2012 at 06:36 PM
base sa case mo mas ok kung mag Mediasonic Probox ka na lang
eto nalang gawin mo klpangan, para pogi rin tignan.  may fan naman ito dedicated for HDD's.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 07, 2012 at 07:53 PM
eto nalang gawin mo klpangan, para pogi rin tignan.  may fan naman ito dedicated for HDD's.

ipon mode na nga ako hehe....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 08, 2012 at 01:08 AM
wow nakaNAS pala kayo bigat naman.....

Traditional file server po, hindi NAS na network appliance.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 08, 2012 at 06:24 AM
Traditional file server po, hindi NAS na network appliance.
eh di mas bigatin  :D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 08, 2012 at 07:33 AM
eh di mas bigatin  :D ;D

Bale wala po kumpara sa master toys niyo, Idol Jamy. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 08, 2012 at 12:06 PM
hahhaa... anyway luckily was able to save some of my files.. sahdd ko hay kailangan ko na talaga ilagay sa enclosure yung HDD ko... katakot ulit mangyari ganito... Tera na usapan overnight ang pagrerecover
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 08, 2012 at 12:23 PM
No la Karl.  I have more HDDs than your age (hehehe) and all of them are bare and used with docks.   No problemo.

hahhaa... anyway luckily was able to save some of my files.. sahdd ko hay kailangan ko na talaga ilagay sa enclosure yung HDD ko... katakot ulit mangyari ganito... Tera na usapan overnight ang pagrerecover
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 08, 2012 at 05:19 PM
No la Karl.  I have more HDDs than your age (hehehe) and all of them are bare and used with docks.   No problemo.


heheh yung sa akin kasi lage nakasaksak siguro kaya ganun.. hmm not sure y nangyari yun pakiramdam ko power failure or ano..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Feb 08, 2012 at 05:52 PM
yung sakin dati nung tinangal ko sa dock pinatong ko sa speaker..nakalimutan tangalin nanuod ng movies ayun nalaglag goodbye ang 2tera na movies... :'(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 08, 2012 at 08:22 PM
yung sakin dati nung tinangal ko sa dock pinatong ko sa speaker..nakalimutan tangalin nanuod ng movies ayun nalaglag goodbye ang 2tera na movies... :'(

ouch sakit sa akin kasi movies can be downloaded again kaso andun pictures and videos ko memories... huhu kaya medjo nagsesenti mode ako dito hehehe....
Title: Patulong po sa SETUP
Post by: HTPC on Feb 21, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Magandang araw po sa lahat ng mga GURUS dito sa forum  ;D. Ask ko lang po kung pede nang pang HTPC setup ang mga ito:

-- Processor: Intel Pentium E5400 2.7GHz Dual Core
-- RAM: 2Gigs(Kingston)
-- MOBO: ASROCK (G31M-S)
-- Hard Drive: 300 Gig SATA (Seagate Barracuda)

2 years na po itong CPU ko... eto po question:

1. Bukod sa:

   - Additional Memory (+2GIG)
   - Pagbili ng DICSREET VIDEO CARD (pahingi po ng suggestion)
   - Additional HARD DRIVE (Planning on 1 TERA)

   Ano pa po ba yung mga kailangan pang bilhin para sa setup na ito?

2. Pede na po ba itong setup na ito? or kailangan ko na bumili ng bago?  ???

Salamat po sa inyo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM
pwede naman po pero may kahinaan po ang video niyan... kaya not all full hd files kaya i-play...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 22, 2012 at 01:50 AM
Magandang araw po sa lahat ng mga GURUS dito sa forum  ;D. Ask ko lang po kung pede nang pang HTPC setup ang mga ito:

-- Processor: Intel Pentium E5400 2.7GHz Dual Core
-- RAM: 2Gigs(Kingston)
-- MOBO: ASROCK (G31M-S)
-- Hard Drive: 300 Gig SATA (Seagate Barracuda)

2 years na po itong CPU ko... eto po question:

1. Bukod sa:

   - Additional Memory (+2GIG)
   - Pagbili ng DICSREET VIDEO CARD (pahingi po ng suggestion)
   - Additional HARD DRIVE (Planning on 1 TERA)

   Ano pa po ba yung mga kailangan pang bilhin para sa setup na ito?

2. Pede na po ba itong setup na ito? or kailangan ko na bumili ng bago?  ???

Salamat po sa inyo.

If your power supply can support it, look at the AMD HD 7770 GPU (or higher). The 7770 is strong enough to handle video post-processing duties saka 4K resolution capable din, so baka magamit mo pa pag nagdecide ka magupgrade ng ibang computer/HT parts.

Kung wala ka balak mag GPU-accelerated post-processing, pwede din lower models.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Feb 22, 2012 at 02:33 AM
I have a question.

Can you just Output Video on HDMI then Audio will be outputted via USB DAC?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 22, 2012 at 03:49 AM
I have a question.

Can you just Output Video on HDMI then Audio will be outputted via USB DAC?

Yes. You just set this via software.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Feb 22, 2012 at 07:53 AM
If your power supply can support it, look at the AMD HD 7770 GPU (or higher). The 7770 is strong enough to handle video post-processing duties saka 4K resolution capable din, so baka magamit mo pa pag nagdecide ka magupgrade ng ibang computer/HT parts.

Ang alam ko po sa power supply ko is 500W, sensya ka na sir ah, talagang bago lang ako dito. Will it be enough to handle the AMD HD 7770 GPU?

Kung wala ka balak mag GPU-accelerated post-processing, pwede din lower models.

Naguguluhan po ako kung bibili ako ng bagong cpu  ???  ???  ???, ano po pede nyong i suggest sa akin? I upgrade or bumili nlang ng bago?

Basta gusto ko lang po sir ng decent na htpc na pedeng mag play ng 1080p movies and makapag internet pag hindi ginagamit as htpc, wala po akong balak sa mga games.

@Stagea & AC: Salamat po sa mga sagot ninyo  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 22, 2012 at 11:03 AM
sandy bridge po sir kayang kaya na watch movies 1080p kahit wala vc.. and matipid po sa kuryente kaya.. kahit gawin mong torrent rig.. ok na ok..

pero.. you may want to wait for ivy league... this april daw po labas...

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 22, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Ang alam ko po sa power supply ko is 500W, sensya ka na sir ah, talagang bago lang ako dito. Will it be enough to handle the AMD HD 7770 GPU?

Naguguluhan po ako kung bibili ako ng bagong cpu  ???  ???  ???, ano po pede nyong i suggest sa akin? I upgrade or bumili nlang ng bago?

Basta gusto ko lang po sir ng decent na htpc na pedeng mag play ng 1080p movies and makapag internet pag hindi ginagamit as htpc, wala po akong balak sa mga games.

@Stagea & AC: Salamat po sa mga sagot ninyo  ;D

Sir based po from my experience if you have the budget and you want to have a new setup upgrade na po kayo... nakabuo po ako ng HTPC under 10k pero wala HDD hehe ginamit ko yung luma ko eh... ipon para sa SSD.... back read po kayo nakapost po dun yung binuo ko...

pero if you still want to maximize the capacity ng current pc ninyo video card lang po ang kailangan ninyo good to go na yan... di pa naman po luma yung specs na pc ninyo and if for movie playback and internet use ok na ok na po yan....

Friendly advice din po kailangan niyo ng self control hehe magastos ang bisyo na ito.. pagnasimulan kaya iwas sa pangigigil... I think everyone will agree on this one.. :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Feb 22, 2012 at 02:00 PM
sandy bridge po sir kayang kaya na watch movies 1080p kahit wala vc.. and matipid po sa kuryente kaya.. kahit gawin mong torrent rig.. ok na ok..

Honga po sir yan ang recommended nila dito. Eto po yung i3 diba?

pero.. you may want to wait for ivy league... this april daw po labas...

Eh magkano po kaya ito sir? Kung di ako nagkakamali to naman po yung i7? (tama po ba ako? hehehe!  ;D )

Sir based po from my experience if you have the budget and you want to have a new setup upgrade na po kayo... nakabuo po ako ng HTPC under 10k pero wala HDD hehe ginamit ko yung luma ko eh... ipon para sa SSD.... back read po kayo nakapost po dun yung binuo ko...

yes po sir nabasa ko po... Congrats po sa inyong setup.  ;D Una ko kasing balak eh yung mga media players such as; Popcorn Hour, AC Ryan, WD live hub, atbp.... (dami eh). So nabasa ko po ang mga usapan dito... kaya ito... mas gusto ko na mag HTPC nlang dahil sa kanyang versatility.

pero if you still want to maximize the capacity ng current pc ninyo video card lang po ang kailangan ninyo good to go na yan... di pa naman po luma yung specs na pc ninyo and if for movie playback and internet use ok na ok na po yan....

Talaga po sir!? Nakakatuwa naman at pede pa itong specs ko ::) paano memory di na ba ako magdadadag?


Friendly advice din po kailangan niyo ng self control hehe magastos ang bisyo na ito.. pagnasimulan kaya iwas sa pangigigil... I think everyone will agree on this one.. :D

Kung sa pangigigil eh talagang gigil na gigil na ako... heheheh!  ;D Pero madami pa akong dapat malaman kaya eto po at nagba back-read ako (1 week ko ata binasa ito... hehehe) Salamat at may mga GURUS dito na handang tumulong sa mga tulad ko na baguhan. Salamat po sa inyo!  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CocoBoy on Feb 22, 2012 at 07:20 PM
I have an HP desktop 6355D. I want sana to convert to HTPC, palit ng video card and sound card lang ba? Power supply?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Feb 22, 2012 at 11:28 PM
Ang alam ko po sa power supply ko is 500W, sensya ka na sir ah, talagang bago lang ako dito. Will it be enough to handle the AMD HD 7770 GPU?

Naguguluhan po ako kung bibili ako ng bagong cpu  ???  ???  ???, ano po pede nyong i suggest sa akin? I upgrade or bumili nlang ng bago?

Basta gusto ko lang po sir ng decent na htpc na pedeng mag play ng 1080p movies and makapag internet pag hindi ginagamit as htpc, wala po akong balak sa mga games.

@Stagea & AC: Salamat po sa mga sagot ninyo  ;D

Yung power supply niyo po ba branded? Kasi kung generic lang usually mas mababa yung actual wattage niyan at hindi pwede sa AMD HD7770. Kung branded siya, pwede na.

Ganyan din ang goal ko before na basta maka-play lang ng 1080p movies and pang internet. Pero once makatikim ka ng full post-processing, you don't want to watch movies without it. Malaking improvement nagagawa nito sa picture quality. So napa-upgrade ako ng buong PC at video card. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 23, 2012 at 12:38 AM
sir billabong..
ano po ang full post processing?

share ko lang po psu ko sa torrent rig
(http://i41.tinypic.com/w6xzjk.jpg)
90w pico psu
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2iidhyc.jpg)

matipid po branded psu.. usually near sa peak load
example... a 500 watt branded psu matipid around 400watts close to 90%(if bronze) more than 90 if gold
but at 20watts... mababa po efficiency niya

kaya ok gumamit ng pico psu
90watt limit
most of the time over 90% efficiency according sa reviews
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 23, 2012 at 01:30 AM
I have an HP desktop 6355D. I want sana to convert to HTPC, palit ng video card and sound card lang ba? Power supply?

Pwede na siya on its own, wala lang HD Audio bitstreaming.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Feb 23, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Yung power supply niyo po ba branded? Kasi kung generic lang usually mas mababa yung actual wattage niyan at hindi pwede sa AMD HD7770. Kung branded siya, pwede na.

Ay ganun... hindi po branded yung PSU ko sir :-[. Paano kaya sir? It came with a generic case also. pag bumili ba ako ng branded na casing eh may power supply na rin po ba yun? Just like the Antec 200?

Ganyan din ang goal ko before na basta maka-play lang ng 1080p movies and pang internet. Pero once makatikim ka ng full post-processing, you don't want to watch movies without it. Malaking improvement nagagawa nito sa picture quality. So napa-upgrade ako ng buong PC at video card. ;D

Dapat palang wag masyadong maging adik.... heheh  ;D

Sorry for my ignorance... Honga po sir anu po ba yung "POST-PROCESSING"
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Feb 23, 2012 at 11:37 AM
sir billabong..
ano po ang full post processing?

share ko lang po psu ko sa torrent rig
(http://i41.tinypic.com/w6xzjk.jpg)
90w pico psu
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2iidhyc.jpg)

matipid po branded psu.. usually near sa peak load
example... a 500 watt branded psu matipid around 400watts close to 90%(if bronze) more than 90 if gold
but at 20watts... mababa po efficiency niya

kaya ok gumamit ng pico psu
90watt limit
most of the time over 90% efficiency according sa reviews

Ganda talaga nito sir... may kilala po ako na supplier ng acryllic. Gusto ko po nitong setup na ito pero sa tingin ko palang parang mahirap na gawin. anu po specs nito sir? TIA!  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 23, 2012 at 01:11 PM
thanks sir...
hindi po sir mahirap yan.. more of planning and time...
skill.. konti lang needed

i dont have a heat bender kaya heat gun lang ginamit ko kaya ang lalaki ng liko.. sana may heat bender.. gusto ko nga ulitin pag may access lang sana ako sa heatbender.. hehe

acrylic po is very easy to work with dahil malambot lang na material...
rotary(dremel) is suggested para mapadali trabaho... pwede din naman manual hand tools but it will take longer

specs po niyan is
intel i3-2100t
gigabyte itx H67
ocz 2x2gb ddr3
2x2tb samsung hard disk
pico psu.
thermaltake HR-02 cpu cooler
custom copper chipset cooler

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Feb 23, 2012 at 01:49 PM
thanks sir...
hindi po sir mahirap yan.. more of planning and time...
skill.. konti lang needed

i dont have a heat bender kaya heat gun lang ginamit ko kaya ang lalaki ng liko.. sana may heat bender.. gusto ko nga ulitin pag may access lang sana ako sa heatbender.. hehe

acrylic po is very easy to work with dahil malambot lang na material...
rotary(dremel) is suggested para mapadali trabaho... pwede din naman manual hand tools but it will take longer

specs po niyan is
intel i3-2100t
gigabyte itx H67
ocz 2x2gb ddr3
2x2tb samsung hard disk
pico psu.
thermaltake HR-02 cpu cooler
custom copper chipset cooler

Wow! Bigat pla specs. Magkano kaya inabot ito? More power sir!  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 23, 2012 at 06:34 PM
hindi naman po sir.. hehe mas bigatin yung kay sir stagea... naka gtx280 yata..


sa us ko po nabili most parts...
est. lang po
i3-2100t  $125
gigabyte h67 $120
ocz 2x2gb 2100php
samsung 2tb 3.8kphp each
pico psu $60
thermaltake HR-02 bought used 2500
custom copper.. bigay lang ng friend.. hehe

ngayon po nagtatarget ako magupgrade ng.. htpc sa room ko.. hehe hopefully ivyleague kahit i3 din lang
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 23, 2012 at 09:39 PM
hindi naman po sir.. hehe mas bigatin yung kay sir stagea... naka gtx280 yata..


sa us ko po nabili most parts...
est. lang po
i3-2100t  $125
gigabyte h67 $120
ocz 2x2gb 2100php
samsung 2tb 3.8kphp each
pico psu $60
thermaltake HR-02 bought used 2500
custom copper.. bigay lang ng friend.. hehe

ngayon po nagtatarget ako magupgrade ng.. htpc sa room ko.. hehe hopefully ivyleague kahit i3 din lang

GTX 480 lang po main rig ko. Kay Billabong ang bigatin, naka 7970 Crossfire. :) Maski naka Nvidia ako, I don't recommend its use for HTPC purposes. Medyo malayo kasi sa AMD ang PQ (wala pang HD Audio bitstreaming ang higher models). Sad to say, maganda pa ang video quality ng integrated video ng AMD and Intel these days kesa sa flagship ng Nvidia. Kaya nagbuo din ako ng separate Intel and AMD systems.

Ivy Bridge po ata yung next ng Intel, sir AC. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Feb 23, 2012 at 09:49 PM
sir billabong..
ano po ang full post processing?

Video post processing.. eto yung ginagamit para ma-improve yung picture quality like Edge-enhancement, De-noise, Mosquito Noise Reduction, De-blocking..etc.

Si Master Stagea ang mas nakakaalam kung ano ito in detail. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 23, 2012 at 10:10 PM
sorry for the errors hehe.. sir stagea..
yes gtx480 nga pala.. naalala ko lang kasi last 2 digits.. hi end.. hehe sorry pinababa ko pa.. not to mention 16gb ram.. if i remember right?

yes.. tama ivy bridge.. medyo magulo yata isip ko kanina..

thanks sir billabong for the info about post processing.. hehe

sir stagea... may previous posts po ba about post processing? hehe interested din po ako dito.. hehe
ano po kaya... minimum requirements?
thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: doughn on Feb 23, 2012 at 11:06 PM
ask ko lang mga bossing.

pede ba gawing Mac-Mini Latest Model . pang HTPC... wala bang problema sa MKV larger files ? ayaw ko na mag wndows. thanks in advance
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 24, 2012 at 04:51 AM
pede ba gawing Mac-Mini Latest Model . pang HTPC... wala bang problema sa MKV larger files ? ayaw ko na mag wndows. thanks in advance

Doable. It's essentially an entry level Sandy Bridge device.


sir stagea... may previous posts po ba about post processing? hehe interested din po ako dito.. hehe
ano po kaya... minimum requirements?

Meron ata pero na-ignore na dahil matagal na din. ;D

System Requirements depende po kung gaano ka-extensive na real-time post-processing ang gagawin niyo, at sa precision at optimizations na acceptable sa inyo. Madalas po GPU shaders ang ginagamit to implement this, kaya medyo malakas na 3D accelerator ang kailangan.

The AMD HD 7770 is the lowest I'd go kung ang intention is HD playback with real-time video post processing. Asa sweet-spot kasi siya ng compute performance at price. Kung may budget for higher, edi better.

Sa integrated video, the AMD Fusion A8 APU will do basic post-processing comfortably. Yung mga balak magbuo ng bago pero may gamit pa ngayon, pwedeng antayin ang Fusion A10 APU. Mukhang malaki ang jump sa GPU performance nun (or go with dedicated video na lang).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: doughn on Feb 24, 2012 at 06:53 AM
Doable. It's essentially an entry level Sandy Bridge device.



thanks sir,ano ba minimum hardware requirents for a good HTPC? ano player / software gamit ninyo to play flawless MKV files (huge file 10gb and larger) ? plano ko sana bumili ng apple mac mini , gawing htpc and torrent downloader .  TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 24, 2012 at 07:31 AM
thanks sir,ano ba minimum hardware requirents for a good HTPC? ano player / software gamit ninyo to play flawless MKV files (huge file 10gb and larger) ? plano ko sana bumili ng apple mac mini , gawing htpc and torrent downloader .  TIA

Subjective po ang good eh. Pero most current PCs / Macs these days can play most kinds of videos in HD, wag lang mga netbook/nettop type.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Feb 24, 2012 at 12:18 PM
Doable. It's essentially an entry level Sandy Bridge device.


Meron ata pero na-ignore na dahil matagal na din. ;D

System Requirements depende po kung gaano ka-extensive na real-time post-processing ang gagawin niyo, at sa precision at optimizations na acceptable sa inyo. Madalas po GPU shaders ang ginagamit to implement this, kaya medyo malakas na 3D accelerator ang kailangan.


pwede bang mag paturo relative to post-processing... ano software gamit dito? may video card is a amd 5700. thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Feb 24, 2012 at 01:01 PM
pwede bang mag paturo relative to post-processing... ano software gamit dito? may video card is a amd 5700. thanks

AMD Vision Engine Control Center.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 24, 2012 at 01:19 PM
The Remux guru of a high quality HD torrent site swears by LAV Filters and MADVR Renderer to obtain the highest quality playback via PC.

Give them a try.  I'm not much into HTPC these days and my PC will turn 5 years come April - hence sticking with KMP, TMT3 and the usual fuel like ffdshow, AC3Filter, CoreAVC.


http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2011/06/30/guide-setting-up-lav-filters-mpc-hc-for-all-your-splitter-and-audio-needs/

http://www.homecinema-hd.com/madvr_en.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Feb 24, 2012 at 01:37 PM
Billabong ang bigatin, naka 7970 Crossfire. :)

Astig nga sir. Mas maganda ba kung naka crossfire ang htpc natin? Mas marami po ba itong benefits tulad ng "post processing" capabilities or pang games lang po ba talaga siya?

Maski naka Nvidia ako, I don't recommend its use for HTPC purposes. Medyo malayo kasi sa AMD ang PQ (wala pang HD Audio bitstreaming ang higher models).

How will we attain ang HD Audio Bitstreaming sir? Dependent po ba ito sa model ng GPU or sa lakas? Wala pa po bang HD Audio bitstreaming kapag naka crossfire?


Thank you po sir  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Feb 24, 2012 at 01:48 PM
AMD Vision Engine Control Center.

So bale ikaw ang magtitmpla ng output mo sir?  ::) Depende sa gusto mo. Pero how will I know kung tama na yung tipla ng mga colors ng pinanonood ko? May sinusunod po ba tayong guide kung tama ang mga color, hue, satuaration atbp?

Thanks po.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 24, 2012 at 03:02 PM
So bale ikaw ang magtitmpla ng output mo sir?  ::) Depende sa gusto mo. Pero how will I know kung tama na yung tipla ng mga colors ng pinanonood ko? May sinusunod po ba tayong guide kung tama ang mga color, hue, satuaration atbp?

Thanks po.

May mga tools po to do that, kung ayaw nyo magtiwala sa sarili niyong mata at calibration software lang. Spyder3TV ata cheapest na instrument-assisted tool kung basic adjustments lang habol mo. Maraming mas maganda kung may budget.

O kaya you can hire a professional to do it for you.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 24, 2012 at 03:16 PM
Astig nga sir. Mas maganda ba kung naka crossfire ang htpc natin? Mas marami po ba itong benefits tulad ng "post processing" capabilities or pang games lang po ba talaga siya?
Marami pong klaseng Crossfire sir. Pero for HTPCs mas useful ang single na malakas na GPU than two or more weaker ones dahil kokonti ang video software to support distributed GPGPU functions, saka pag yung UVD ang gamit mo for video decoding it can only tap the shaders within the same GPU ata sa ngayon, at wala ding Crossfire profiles for 2D for now (sa alam ko). As for your question, hindi po siya for games only, though dun siya pinaka-madalas ginagamit.

How will we attain ang HD Audio Bitstreaming sir? Dependent po ba ito sa model ng GPU or sa lakas? Wala pa po bang HD Audio bitstreaming kapag naka crossfire?


Dependent sa GPU model, implementation, drivers at playback software. Most current models may support na, basta may HDMI port. Bukod-tangi lang ang Nvidia for omitting this important feature sa higher models, dahil mukhang nagtitipid sa licensing.

HD Audio Bitstreaming can work in a Crossfire setup.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 24, 2012 at 06:53 PM
sir billabong.. idol!
dream vc ko.. gtx560 ti lang..
but thats for gaming na...
sayo htpc palang many folds better na.. hehe

ask ko nadin po sir kung gagana
AMD Vision Engine Control Center on Nvidia gpus? nvidia fanboy here eh.. hehe
thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nvektus on Feb 24, 2012 at 07:11 PM
here's my htpc setup: intel i3-2105, 4gb ddr3, 40gb ssd.  running xbmc on win 7.


(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr122/nvektus/Misc/htpc1.jpg)

(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr122/nvektus/Misc/htpc2.jpg)

(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr122/nvektus/Misc/htpc3.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 25, 2012 at 04:08 AM
ask ko nadin po sir kung gagana
AMD Vision Engine Control Center on Nvidia gpus? nvidia fanboy here eh.. hehe
thanks

No, it would not. Nvidia GPUs can do basic real-time video post-processing via the GeForce/Quadro drivers. However, the implementation is poor in quality (unnatural color rendition, primitive deinterlacing, poor artifact detection/control, and high in noise) based on my experience and video benchmarks. Nvidia's implementation is just far less robust, and less worthwhile to use/tweak (at least with the products that they have in the market). When running Nvidia hardware, I keep most video post-processing options off (they sometimes do more bad than good) and just stick with their display calibration controls. I hope Nvidia recognizes the significance of video applications in the future, as they have been largely ignoring this so far (perhaps this is not their target segment with their current products). The only thing going for Nvidia's driver-based post-processing implementation is that it is less computationally intense, allowing lower GPU models to apply post-processing without dropping frames.

You can still run applications that use the GPU for post-processing on Nvidia hardware, though. There just aren't a lot of them at the moment (and the ones I've seen don't allow for much customization).

I would be surprised if you don't notice any difference between them. Vector Adaptive deinterlacing alone is worth the price of entry, imho.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM
here's my htpc setup: intel i3-2105, 4gb ddr3, 40gb ssd.  running xbmc on win 7.

(http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr122/nvektus/Misc/htpc2.jpg)

Nice-looking system, sir nvektus. :) Are you using studio master files for audio?

The Remux guru of a high quality HD torrent site swears by LAV Filters and MADVR Renderer to obtain the highest quality playback via PC.

I use LAV in some computers. I agree, MadVR can be excellent if setup well with decent hardware. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jrcrunch on Feb 25, 2012 at 12:53 PM
is it cheaper to build a htpc than buy a media player like xtreamer or pch? sorry not familiar sa mga pc components prices hehe. habol ko lang naman is to play full hd movies seamslessly and 5.1 sound :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 25, 2012 at 01:01 PM
is it cheaper to build a htpc than buy a media player like xtreamer or pch? sorry not familiar sa mga pc components prices hehe. habol ko lang naman is to play full hd movies seamslessly and 5.1 sound :)

No, it is not cheaper up-front. It might be cheaper in the long run because of format compatibility and expandability, on the other hand.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Feb 25, 2012 at 02:42 PM
what in particular should i tweak in AMD Vision Engine Control Center?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 25, 2012 at 03:00 PM
what in particular should i tweak in AMD Vision Engine Control Center?

Virtually everything there can be worth tweaking. The Control Center is there to allow you to tweak. :) Which ones 'should' you tweak, is entirely up to you and your gear.

Even the 3D settings affect 2D video quality.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Feb 25, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Is the catalyst center the same as the AMD Vision Engine Control Center? thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nvektus on Feb 25, 2012 at 04:27 PM
Nice-looking system, sir nvektus. :) Are you using studio master files for audio?


thanks sir! yes, but i only have a few.  they're expensive and hard to find free ones.  i also have a few shm-cd in flac. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 25, 2012 at 09:51 PM
Is the catalyst center the same as the AMD Vision Engine Control Center? thanks

It's essentially the same. The Vision Engine is for AMD APU-based platforms and offers some extra APU-specific features.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 26, 2012 at 04:53 AM
AMD Vision Engine Control Center on Nvidia gpus? nvidia fanboy here eh.. hehe

Add ko lang na pwede ka mag software post-processing kung malakas CPU mo. Pwede ka mag offload ng konti sa GPU using DXVA/CUDA, pero most ng ganitong implementations eh mabigat pa rin sa CPU utilization.

Don't get me wrong, you can still use Nvidia GPUs to build good HTPCs. Useful naman for me ang Noise Reduction at Edge Enhancement features ng Nvidia for example, and their color controls are finer than Intel's kaya hindi naman masama. Obviously less-geared lang sila for this purpose as of the moment.

Intel's Viru GPU virtualization is quite interesting din for now, as you can utilize Quicksync even with dedicated video. Pero ang biggest downsides for me are that it doesn't support DX11 with current processors at kokonti din yung software na gumagamit ng QuickSync for video playback.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Feb 26, 2012 at 07:29 AM
It's essentially the same. The Vision Engine is for AMD APU-based platforms and offers some extra APU-specific features.


when you said amd apu platform..ibig sabihin ba nito eh amd ang processor? thanks

i have just notice na halos walang activity ang videocard ko pag nagplay ng hd movies..is there a way to utilized my videocard sa post-processing etc when playing movies...luma na kasi proc ko 6700 intel core2duo...dxva lang ba talga?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 26, 2012 at 11:54 AM
when you said amd apu platform..ibig sabihin ba nito eh amd ang processor? thanks

Not just any AMD processor po, AMD APU po (Accelerated Processing Unit, sa ngayon mga Fusion models).

i have just notice na halos walang activity ang videocard ko pag nagplay ng hd movies..is there a way to utilized my videocard sa post-processing etc when playing movies...luma na kasi proc ko 6700 intel core2duo...dxva lang ba talga?

Ano po ba ang player na gamit niyo? Even if you're using the UVD for decoding, walang magregister na load kung hindi nyo ginagamit yung shaders during playback.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Feb 26, 2012 at 01:43 PM
mpc-hc
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: klpangan on Feb 26, 2012 at 07:01 PM
My new toy... thanks to Toys4geeks a.k.a Sir Jim... Astig sulit na sulit... at ang pogi pa... hehhe

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k127/klpangan/DSC00159.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k127/klpangan/DSC00156.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 27, 2012 at 06:13 AM
mpc-hc

Use a different codec if it can't be configured to use the GPU, or use a different player.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CocoBoy on Feb 28, 2012 at 03:49 PM
Pwede na siya on its own, wala lang HD Audio bitstreaming.

I was thinking of getting this Vcard for my upgrade dito sa HP desktop ko Sapphire HD 6570 2G DD3 posted for sale sa TPC less than 3k. Ok na kaya ito?  Do i need to change P/S. Hookup ko lang sa plasma ko, tingnan ko PQ and SQ difference with my Med and A300 NMT's.

Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 29, 2012 at 04:08 AM
I was thinking of getting this Vcard for my upgrade dito sa HP desktop ko Sapphire HD 6570 2G DD3 posted for sale sa TPC less than 3k. Ok na kaya ito?  Do i need to change P/S. Hookup ko lang sa plasma ko, tingnan ko PQ and SQ difference with my Med and A300 NMT's.
That's a low power board, so your stock power supply would likely have no problem powering it. It has enough capability for basic hardware decoding, video adjustments and deinterlacing.

HQV 2.0 Scores lifted from Anandtech and Tom's Hardware:

AMD Radeon HD 6000 (HD 6570 and higher)
Video Conversion - 90 / 90
Noise and Artifact Reduction - 54 / 60
Image Scaling and Enhancements - 30 / 30
Adaptive Processing - 27 / 30
Total: 201 / 210

Intel HD Graphics 2000 / HD Graphics 3000
Video Conversion - 78 / 90
Noise and Artifact Reduction - 44 / 60
Image Scaling and Enhancements - 25 / 30
Adaptive Processing - 12 / 30
Total: 159 / 210

Nvidia GeForce 500 Series (upto GTX 560 Ti)
Video Conversion - 45 / 90
Noise and Artifact Reduction - 44 / 60
Image Scaling and Enhancements - 30 / 30
Adaptive Processing - 27 / 30
Total: 146 / 210

WD TV Live Plus
Video Conversion - 18 / 90
Noise and Artifact Reduction - 0 / 60
Image Scaling and Enhancements - 20 / 30
Adaptive Processing - 0 / 30
Total: 43 / 210
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Feb 29, 2012 at 04:35 AM
The best performing Sigma-based media tank I've seen benchmarked is the HDI Dune BD Prime 3.0. The BD Prime 3.0 Bench scores are below:

Video Conversion - 29 / 90
Noise and Artifact Reduction - 20 / 60
Image Scaling and Enhancements - 24 / 30
Adaptive Processing - 23 / 30
Total: 96 / 210

I hope Intel Sodaville based dedicated players start popping up. The CE41xx media chips are quite promising.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Mar 01, 2012 at 12:01 AM
nosebleed master ivan
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Mar 05, 2012 at 06:35 AM
Time to get extra RAM for those who've been skipping this upgrade. Prices are expected to go up this year.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120302-707333.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120302-707333.html)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 05, 2012 at 07:21 AM
Time to get extra RAM for those who've been skipping this upgrade. Prices are expected to go up this year.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120302-707333.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120302-707333.html)
this is bad news ...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lncc63 on Mar 07, 2012 at 04:56 AM
Thanks for sharing that.  Had to go find a link with the complete story: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/memory/display/20120305215316_Insolvency_of_Elpida_May_Boost_Memory_Pricing_and_Help_the_Industry.html (http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/memory/display/20120305215316_Insolvency_of_Elpida_May_Boost_Memory_Pricing_and_Help_the_Industry.html)

The projection is for a 15% increase by the end of the year - not really that bad though.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CocoBoy on Mar 16, 2012 at 09:36 AM
Got this for my HTPC project.  Silverstone Sugo SG02B-F ;). Building my HTPC to replace my NMTs:

(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3589/packback.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/packback.jpg/)

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mobo/ Gigabyte H61M-S2-B3 MicroATX
Core I3-2100
Sapphire HD5670 1G DDR5
2X2TB IDD Samsung
Corsair 2X4GB PC3
600W PSU

Ok na ito cguro di ba? HTPC only ;)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tein on Mar 16, 2012 at 01:16 PM
Thats more than enough na sir  ;) Nice choice of case! Silverstone user here also  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tein on Mar 16, 2012 at 01:31 PM
My old gaming pc now a full time HTPC  :) Specs kinda old but no need for upgrade  :)

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/Pure_1600/404474_308414272533687_281866661855115_833833_1892193834_n-1.jpg)

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/Pure_1600/403917_308251202549994_281866661855115_833404_1347077583_n-1.jpg)

HTPC specs :

Intel Q6600 G0 stepping @ 3.6ghz now 3.2ghz for movies nalang
Asus Rampage Formula Motherboard
PowerColor HD 4870x2 ( sira na )
MSI HD6850 x 2 @ Crossfire setting
Creative Soundblaster X-Fi fatality series
Thermalright Ultra 120 xtreme cpu cooler
Arctic Cooling thermal compund
Antec SpotCool on rams
Team xtreem 2x1gb 1200mhz ( benchmarking rams )
Team xtreem 2x2gb 1066mhz ( daily rams )
Silverstone TJ09 black
Silverstone OP1000 psu
Silverstone MFP51 ( Internal Media Player )
Silverstone FM121 x2
Silverstone FM122 x3
Silverstone FM123 x1
Logitech G15 keyboard
Logitech G5 limited edition gaming mouse
Logitech G7 cordless gaming mouse ( carbon )
Logitech G9 gaming mouse
Logitech G25 steering wheel for ps3 and driving sim games
Logitech z5500 ( replaced by Harman Kardon 255/Infinity primus combination )
Razer Mantis mousepad
Seagate 320gb
Seagate 500gb
Seagate 1tb
WD external 1tb x2
Samsung 2tb
Hanns-G 28" full hd ( main monitor, for games,surfing )
Sony Bravia 40v400a full hd ( secondary monitor for movies )

Receiver:
Harman Kardon 255

Speakers:
Front: Infinity Primus P362
Center: Infinity Primus PC350
Surround: Infinity Primus P152
Subwoofer: DIY MarcoPilyo 12" jbl and enclosure
Sub Amp: Pilyo amp4v2

Other items:
Mede8er 300x w/ 2tb
Custom racing cockpit with Concept 1 racing seat
AudioPro HDMI cable,
AudioPro Optical cable
AudioPro Digital Coax cable
PS3 for gaming
500w, 1500w, 2000w avrs

Rear Speaker Stands: DIY!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Mar 22, 2012 at 08:17 AM
Magandang araw po sa mga GURU's! :D I would like to ask kung anung latest videocard ang may support po for a Component Video (YPbPr). Maraming salamat po.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Mar 22, 2012 at 08:29 AM
I would like to ask kung anung latest videocard ang may support po for a Component Video (YPbPr). Maraming salamat po.

Don't quote me on this, but I think the current crop of consumer video chipsets still support YPbPr (since most consumer gear default to YCbCr encoding even when utilizing HDMI). This means that it would likely work as long as the boardmaker implemented the analogue side properly, and a proper dvi or vga to component adapter is used.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Mar 22, 2012 at 09:02 AM
Thank you Sir Stagea! I would like to use my htpc for other TV's (the old ones) with no HDMI connection. If I'm not mistaken, most of the videocards today have no OUT=Component Video (YPbPr). I still gotta learn a lot from all of you here, thank you again ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CocoBoy on Mar 22, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Finished my first HTPC Build ;).  Love it pag noobie ka then you're able to complete something that pans out well. Here are some shots. Basic build lang , nothing fancy.

Gigabyte H61M-S2-B3 MicroATX(3.1K)
Intel Core I3-2100(5.2k)
Sapphire HD5670 1GB DDR5(3.8k)
2X2TB IDD Samsung F4(11.4k) - old HDD
Corsair 2X4GB PC3(1.8k)
Huntkey 500W PSU(2.2k)
LG DVDRW Internal reader/writer(1.1k)
Silverstone SG02B-F SFF Case(3.9k)
Windows Ultimate
Lenovo N5902 HTPC Remote(3.2k)

(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9611/dsc2051h.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/201/dsc2051h.jpg/)


(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5931/dsc1996g.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/dsc1996g.jpg/)

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/470/dsc2049a.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/dsc2049a.jpg/)


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: elacerna on Mar 22, 2012 at 12:41 PM
Mga Guru,

Ask ko lng if pwede etong setup ko for HTPC

Currently i am using

AMD Athlon x425 processor
am3 Gigabyte 880GM D2H
2x 4gb Kingston RAM DDR1333
500GB Seagate
Acbel 660W PSU

Gusto ko sanang i play ang bluray movies dito HDMI gamit ko connected sa TV then ung sound papalabasin ko sa pioneer HTZ111. ask ko lng kung 5.1 parin sound nya ung DTS? Ang connection kc nya is from stereo sa likod ng mobo 3.5mm to Aux (red and white) RCA sa likod ng pioneer. Digital parin ba kaya tunog nito.


Thnx mga master...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CocoBoy on Mar 22, 2012 at 01:44 PM
Your audio connections from PC to your HTIB is analogue so I think it will not output 5.1 or DTS.  If you play dvds with your HTIB and with DD or DTS encoded material, I think it will output 5.1 sound to your speakers. PC HDMI to HDMI receiver to Flat panel with HMDI sana pwede bro. Hapgrade yan pag nagkataon ;D.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 22, 2012 at 01:45 PM
Mga Guru,

Ask ko lng if pwede etong setup ko for HTPC

Currently i am using

AMD Athlon x425 processor
am3 Gigabyte 880GM D2H
2x 4gb Kingston RAM DDR1333
500GB Seagate
Acbel 660W PSU

Gusto ko sanang i play ang bluray movies dito HDMI gamit ko connected sa TV then ung sound papalabasin ko sa pioneer HTZ111. ask ko lng kung 5.1 parin sound nya ung DTS? Ang connection kc nya is from stereo sa likod ng mobo 3.5mm to Aux (red and white) RCA sa likod ng pioneer. Digital parin ba kaya tunog nito.


Thnx mga master...


Analog parin yan pards.  Kung gusto mong digital, connect via optical, coaxial or hdmi i.e. If you have those connections from your MOBO to your HTIB.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jao143 on Mar 22, 2012 at 01:46 PM
Finished my first HTPC Build ;).  Love it pag noobie ka then you're able to complete something that pans out well. Here are some shots. Basic build lang , nothing fancy.

Gigabyte H61M-S2-B3 MicroATX
Intel Core I3-2100
Sapphire HD5670 1GB DDR5
2X2TB IDD Samsung F4
Corsair 2X4GB PC3
Huntkey 500W PSU
LG DVDRW Internal reader/writer
Silverstone SG02B-F SFF Case
Windows Ultimate
Lenovo N5902 HTPC Remote

(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9611/dsc2051h.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/201/dsc2051h.jpg/)


(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5931/dsc1996g.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/dsc1996g.jpg/)

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/470/dsc2049a.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/dsc2049a.jpg/)


Sir, Magkano lahat na nagastos mo dito?

Thanks :) :) :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CocoBoy on Mar 22, 2012 at 01:56 PM
Edited my post with prices bro. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jao143 on Mar 22, 2012 at 02:00 PM
Edited my post with prices bro. 

Thanks bro :)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: elacerna on Mar 22, 2012 at 03:37 PM
Analog parin yan pards.  Kung gusto mong digital, connect via optical, coaxial or hdmi i.e. If you have those connections from your MOBO to your HTIB.

Thank you very much master.

I need to change mobo pala na may optical out tapos ikabit ko sa RCA ng HTIB ko as Aux.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: elacerna on Mar 22, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Your audio connections from PC to your HTIB is analogue so I think it will not output 5.1 or DTS.  If you play dvds with your HTIB and with DD or DTS encoded material, I think it will output 5.1 sound to your speakers. PC HDMI to HDMI receiver to Flat panel with HMDI sana pwede bro. Hapgrade yan pag nagkataon ;D.

Thnx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Mar 22, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Thank you very much master.

I need to change mobo pala na may optical out tapos ikabit ko sa RCA ng HTIB ko as Aux.

May nabibiling devices na isasaksak mo sa usb port para magkaron ng optical out. Tapos connect mo sa optical in ng htib.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: elacerna on Mar 22, 2012 at 04:07 PM
May nabibiling devices na isasaksak mo sa usb port para magkaron ng optical out. Tapos connect mo sa optical in ng htib.

Sir walang optical in ung HTIB ko. Aux na RCA lng po meron. kung bibili ako nung USB sir, pwede na bang DTS output neto?

Maraming salamat sa info Sir.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Mar 22, 2012 at 04:08 PM
Thank you very much master.

I need to change mobo pala na may optical out tapos ikabit ko sa RCA ng HTIB ko as Aux.

Wala digital input yung HTIB mo kaya di pwede. Use your existing setup na lang and make sure that your PC outputs in Dolby Surround encoded 2ch, tapos select PLII sa HTIB mo if possible.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: elacerna on Mar 22, 2012 at 04:20 PM
Wala digital input yung HTIB mo kaya di pwede. Use your existing setup na lang and make sure that your PC outputs in Dolby Surround encoded 2ch, tapos select PLII sa HTIB mo if possible.

Thanks sa info po.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lncc63 on Mar 23, 2012 at 07:55 AM
Lenovo N5902 HTPC Remote(3.2k)

Bro, where did you buy this?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CocoBoy on Mar 23, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Bro, where did you buy this?

Me natyempuhan ako sa TPC Bro. Bnew and sealed pa.  

Meron din dun akong nakita sa Sulit (http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/4290956/Lenovo+N5902+Wireless+Mini+Keyboard+with+Backlight+-Rare%21-?referralKeywords=lenovo)  na order basis, 10-14 days daw after you order.

 I was contemplating between this and the Rii mini keyboard. I got this instead. Very nice indeed for HTPC, sanayan lang.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lncc63 on Mar 24, 2012 at 06:27 AM
Thank Bro.  Why do you say "sanayan lang"?  Isn't it possible that an HTPC remote behave just like the remote of a regular NMT?   During my last attempt at an HTPC, I had to use cursor buttons to move a mouse arrow in the UI which was "nakakainis" and one reason I abandoned the idea.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CocoBoy on Mar 24, 2012 at 06:35 AM
Thank Bro.  Why do you say "sanayan lang"?  Isn't it possible that an HTPC remote behave just like the remote of a regular NMT?   During my last attempt at an HTPC, I had to use cursor buttons to move a mouse arrow in the UI which was "nakakainis" and one reason I abandoned the idea.

Coming from a traditional wireless mouse and keyboard, mas madali talaga as we are working on a normal PC interface.  I have 2 remotes, Harmony 650 and CDRking which I tried to use for browsing and xbmc, pero hassle talaga.  With the Lenovo, browsing can be done by one hand, but if you type using the keyboard, I use two, parang qwerty cellphone lang. I can say is that this gadget is good for htpc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: lncc63 on Mar 24, 2012 at 12:10 PM
Actually, I tried precisely the same: Harmony 650 and CDRKing remotes.   We still use the Harmony but not with the HTPC which is now just for regular PC use.  If I chance upon a Lenovo I may just give it another try.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: crazyhog on Mar 29, 2012 at 07:58 PM
good evening mga sir.

how to make my laptop be recognized ng akin Onkyo AVR? gawin ko sana syang video source and my display is Acer PJ 5360. my software needed pa ba? using HDMI po.

* no problem if i connect my laptop directLy s PJ.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tein on Mar 29, 2012 at 08:44 PM
Im currently using this as my htpc program and remote, we use to sell this before sa tpc nun d pa uso media tanks . Silverstone mfp51 . Super usefull sya for htpc lalo pag ayaw mag keyboard and mouse . You can pair this with any juked box media software for pc but im still satisfied with xbmc
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: CocoBoy on Mar 30, 2012 at 09:56 AM
good evening mga sir.

how to make my laptop be recognized ng akin Onkyo AVR? gawin ko sana syang video source and my display is Acer PJ 5360. my software needed pa ba? using HDMI po.

* no problem if i connect my laptop directLy s PJ.

So what would be your connection in this case?

LAPTOP HDMI OUT >>>>ONKYO AVR HDMI IN---ONKYO AVR HDMI OUT........ACER PJ?? No software needed na as audio and video from your laptop would pass thru the receiver already.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Mar 30, 2012 at 11:47 AM
good evening mga sir.

how to make my laptop be recognized ng akin Onkyo AVR? gawin ko sana syang video source and my display is Acer PJ 5360. my software needed pa ba? using HDMI po.

* no problem if i connect my laptop directLy s PJ.

In case it doesn't work, make sure that you're running a standard display resolution and refresh rate.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: -lee- on Apr 08, 2012 at 08:42 PM
mga sir pa-advice lang po sana kung anong video card ang magandang updgrde para sa pc ko ngayon.. gamit ko po ay ati radeon hd 4650, stock lang po ng acer m5810 na pc.. problema ko kase yung pq nya, mas maganda pq ng movie pag sa bd player ko pinanood (same material). sumubok na ko ng ibat ibang video player (kmp, mpc, vlc, splash pro, xbmc) pero parang dark parin, ang pangit naman pag tinaasan brightness and contrast settings..kaya naisip ko, baka ganun talaga pq ng 4650.. ano pong magandang  video card upgrade na noticeable ang improvement? budget po is below $100 lang sana, order na lang sa amazon.. tia
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 08, 2012 at 09:29 PM
mga sir pa-advice lang po sana kung anong video card ang magandang updgrde para sa pc ko ngayon.. gamit ko po ay ati radeon hd 4650, stock lang po ng acer m5810 na pc.. problema ko kase yung pq nya, mas maganda pq ng movie pag sa bd player ko pinanood (same material). sumubok na ko ng ibat ibang video player (kmp, mpc, vlc, splash pro, xbmc) pero parang dark parin, ang pangit naman pag tinaasan brightness and contrast settings..kaya naisip ko, baka ganun talaga pq ng 4650.. ano pong magandang  video card upgrade na noticeable ang improvement? budget po is below $100 lang sana, order na lang sa amazon.. tia

Calibrate your video output and your display. Even if you replace your graphics adapter, it may not make much of a difference without calibration.

If you really want to replace your graphics adapter, the HD 7750 is probably your best candidate at the moment for HTPC use.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 08, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Share ko lang yung remote na gamit ko Antec Veris Remote.  ;D ;D

(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1352/sdc10346u.jpg)

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9677/sdc10275r.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: -lee- on Apr 08, 2012 at 11:28 PM
Calibrate your video output and your display. Even if you replace your graphics adapter, it may not make much of a difference without calibration.

If you really want to replace your graphics adapter, the HD 7750 is probably your best candidate at the moment for HTPC use.

thanks sir! tinignan ko ulit settings sa catalyst control center, dapat pala sa video color mag-aadjust, ginawa ko kase dati, sa display color (digital flat-panel) ako nag-adjust. tapos sinundan ko na lang yung video ni jenna drey sa calibration, ayon, ok na sa kin pq. :) parehas na sa bd player. thanks alot sir! d na ko napagastos. kala ko kase walang silbi vc ko  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Apr 09, 2012 at 09:58 AM

thanks sir! tinignan ko ulit settings sa catalyst control center, dapat pala sa video color mag-aadjust, ginawa ko kase dati, sa display color (digital flat-panel) ako nag-adjust. tapos sinundan ko na lang yung video ni jenna drey sa calibration, ayon, ok na sa kin pq. :) parehas na sa bd player. thanks alot sir! d na ko napagastos. kala ko kase walang silbi vc ko  ;D


Congrats! Buti naayos niyo na sir. Maganda talaga PQ ng AMD lalo na when well calibrated and optimized. Upgrading your video card to a more powerful model can make the PQ even better because you can apply more real time video post processing. For me, it's worth upgrading.

In the mean time, try to play around with the Video and 3D Application Settings of the AMD Catalyst.

For playback software, try niyo yung Powerdvd.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: -lee- on Apr 09, 2012 at 10:50 AM
Congrats! Buti naayos niyo na sir. Maganda talaga PQ ng AMD lalo na when well calibrated and optimized. Upgrading your video card to a more powerful model can make the PQ even better because you can apply more real time video post processing. For me, it's worth upgrading.

In the mean time, try to play around with the Video and 3D Application Settings of the AMD Catalyst.

For playback software, try niyo yung Powerdvd.

thanks sir. oo nga buti pinaalala ulit ni master stagea ang calibration, mali kase ginawa ko nung una. eto muna paglaruan ko ngayon, dami pa palang settings na makaimprove ng pq. tsaka na upgrade sir, sabay ko na lang sa casing, mobo, psu. memory tsaka hdd pa lang kase dinagdag ko sa stock ng acer m5810 :)

eto maganda sa pdvd, napipigilan ang mga unnecessary purchases, kung pwede pa i-tweak ang current system. kase marami dito nagbibigay ng advice sa ibang members. at the same time, magastos pa rin lalo na kung nangati sa pag-upgrade  :D sorry sa o.t  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Apr 10, 2012 at 06:29 AM
One of my undervolted builds... 5w running Aero. e450, 8 gigs of ram, wifi, bt, notebook hdd.
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k175/stagea/IMG00051-20120115-1204.jpg)


Master Stagea baka pwede naman magpaguide/advice sa pag build ng pc na tulad sa inyo ka baba or at least malapit dito and consumption....purpose of the build is for internet browsing, downloading, media tank/server...preferably with usb3 support, giga lan...thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 10, 2012 at 06:46 AM
I was able to take that down to 3W with lower clock freqs. However, that's mostly idle consumption. Such builds are great for internet browsing and the like. If you want good video playback PQ however, you have to increase your power budget by a bit.

Remember that the build is only a small part of the story. How you configure it makes the biggest difference.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Apr 10, 2012 at 09:46 AM
I was able to take that down to 3W with lower clock freqs. However, that's mostly idle consumption. Such builds are great for internet browsing and the like. If you want good video playback PQ however, you have to increase your power budget by a bit.

Remember that the build is only a small part of the story. How you configure it makes the biggest difference.

can you direct me to a guide on how to make this configurations....seperate yung htpc ko from what im trying to build although being able to play decent video would be a plus...10 to 20 watts while downloading or surfing would be great
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tein on Apr 10, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Share ko lang yung remote na gamit ko Antec Veris Remote.  ;D ;D

(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1352/sdc10346u.jpg)

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9677/sdc10275r.jpg)


same tayo remote haha silverstone nga lang nakalagay sa remote ko
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 10, 2012 at 12:20 PM
can you direct me to a guide on how to make this configurations....seperate yung htpc ko from what im trying to build although being able to play decent video would be a plus...10 to 20 watts while downloading or surfing would be great

I don't know of any guide out there, but you're free to search. I'm sure you'd find one with enough searching.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Apr 10, 2012 at 03:16 PM
I don't know of any guide out there, but you're free to search. I'm sure you'd find one with enough searching.



can i have some tips from you na lang sir!!! ;D like
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 10, 2012 at 09:47 PM
can i have some tips from you na lang sir!!! ;D like

How much is your budget?

The cheapest and quickest route to "build" a power-efficient computer is to buy a low power notebook. You get low power consumption, a screen, a ups, a keyboard, a trackpad, a memory card reader, an optical drive, etc. in one small power-efficient package. It actually costs much less than to build a ULV desktop with similar components.

These things run for 15k+:
http://www.emachines.com.ph/ec/en/PH/content/model/LX.NE30C.009 (http://www.emachines.com.ph/ec/en/PH/content/model/LX.NE30C.009)
Some adjustments using Brazos tweaker and within windows may get you to your target.

They also sell a similarly speced desktop for 11k+ (no screen).

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Frankthetank on May 14, 2012 at 02:26 PM
Mga sir question about vga;

Kaya bang patakbuhin ng nvidia GT430 without lag or stutter mga 1080p.

Ang magiging monitor ko pala is 42 inch led TV.

Using xmbc, and Splash Pro Ex as external Player.

Eto yung specs (it's an old pc which I'm converting to dedicated HTPC):

Intel C2D E8500 3.06ghz

Asrock 1333 D667 mobo

4GB RAM

9500GT 1GB ---->> walang hdmi kaya balak ko palitan sana ng nvidia GT430.


I'm new here pala at pdvd pero matagal ng lurker...hehehe. How can I bookmark this page??

Thank you.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on May 14, 2012 at 02:48 PM
Eto yung specs (it's an old pc which I'm converting to dedicated HTPC):

Intel C2D E8500 3.06ghz

Asrock 1333 D667 mobo

4GB RAM

9500GT 1GB ---->> walang hdmi kaya balak ko palitan sana ng nvidia GT430.

Kaya na po niyan PC niyo with GT430 ang most file formats, sir.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Frankthetank on May 14, 2012 at 02:52 PM
Thank you sir... e yung videocard po kaya nya?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on May 14, 2012 at 02:56 PM
Thank you sir... e yung videocard po kaya nya?

Yes, the GT430 will do kung di po kayo maselan masyado.

If you want improved video processing, you can opt for a higher AMD graphics solution.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Frankthetank on May 14, 2012 at 02:58 PM
Yes, the GT430 will do kung di po kayo maselan masyado.

If you want improved video processing, you can opt for a higher AMD graphics solution.

Meron po ba maganda AMD na within 3k budget?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on May 26, 2012 at 09:22 AM
just sharing my htpc setup:
(http://multiply.com/mu/dtns/image/1/photos/106/600x600/10/DSCN0169.JPG?et=sva6VXS4AEMe4miwUx%2BJVw&nmid=545098778)

Display: LG 42LK450
HTPC: Manli T2 AMD E-350 (4GB DDR3, 500GB Hitachi Travelstar)
ODD: LG External Super-Multi DVD-RW
I/O: Logitech MK250 Wireless Desktop
Pad: SteelSeries QcK Mini


@Frankthetank

I suggest the Sapphire HD 6570 1GB DDR3. it costs 2900 at OpenPinoy. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on May 26, 2012 at 10:39 AM
or 6450 LP.
mura na presyo at mura din sa konsumo
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on May 26, 2012 at 11:33 AM

I suggest the Sapphire HD 6570 1GB DDR3. it costs 2900 at OpenPinoy. ;)

Powercolor is ~2.6k ata sa gilmore, though better yung 6670 at 3.3k

Meron po ba maganda AMD na within 3k budget?

Subjective po ang maganda kasi. 6570 and 6670 ang AMD solutions sa range na yan.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ndy on Jun 01, 2012 at 01:11 PM
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/mimigz/005-1.jpg)


my first htpc

specs:
a6 3500 2.1gh
asus f1a75 m pro
2x2gb corsair vengeance lp
500gb seagate
e-mini case
logitech k400


maraming maraming salamat kay master viper01(tpc/pdvd) for demoing his set up last saturday! talagang di nya muna ako pinabili hanggang di nya nadedemo htpc nya:) tsaka salamat din sir viper01 sa pagsagot lahat ng tanung ko at itatanong ko pa:) sayang lang wala na ako makuha mini itx board ng nasa gilmore ako noong isang araw kaya nagsettle na ako sa micro atx at very happy pa din ako at slim pa din kinalabasan at hindi sya alangan sa current ht set up ko. thanks din kay klpangan sa pagassist kung saan nya nabili parts ng htpc nya:)  need na lang muna magaral xbmc, splashpro etc ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jackryan on Jun 01, 2012 at 01:26 PM


any chance we can have some sharing on the estimated and actual power consumption of your HTPC rigs?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 02, 2012 at 08:44 PM

any chance we can have some sharing on the estimated and actual power consumption of your HTPC rigs?
mine at 70 watts (watching movies + copying files), 32-38 watts @ idle.  (this a 2008 model, ideally newer should consume less)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Jun 04, 2012 at 01:14 PM
mas mataas ang power consumption nang sakin idle at 45watts. assembled this htpc 1 month ago

specs:
i3 2100 sandy
P8h77 Pro asus
120g SSD
640 laptop hD
760 watts seasonic x series (overkill ata)
powercolor ati HD7770
8gig mem

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 04, 2012 at 01:23 PM
mas mataas ang power consumption nang sakin idle at 45watts. assembled this htpc 1 month ago

specs:
i3 2100 sandy
P8h77 Pro asus
120g SSD
640 laptop hD
760 watts seasonic x series (overkill ata)
powercolor ati HD7770
8gig mem


nope di overkill yun, very effecient yan seasonic na PSU.
youre using a discrete VGA kasi tapos 2 ang hdd mo   :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 04, 2012 at 02:55 PM
Kaya lang pag malaki power supply generally lower efficiency pa din kesa sa maliit na power supply at lower load conditions. Pero okay na yung malaki at may allowance for expansion. :)

Di baleng oversized ang power supply, dagdag consumption lang ng konti ang problema. Pag undersized eh stability issues at component life ang problema. :P
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jun 04, 2012 at 08:04 PM
mas mataas ang power consumption nang sakin idle at 45watts. assembled this htpc 1 month ago

specs:
i3 2100 sandy
P8h77 Pro asus
120g SSD
640 laptop hD
760 watts seasonic x series (overkill ata)
powercolor ati HD7770
8gig mem



your setup beats most people's main/ gaming rigs!  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 05, 2012 at 04:57 AM
Kaya lang pag malaki power supply generally lower efficiency pa din kesa sa maliit na power supply at lower load conditions. Pero okay na yung malaki at may allowance for expansion. :)

Di baleng oversized ang power supply, dagdag consumption lang ng konti ang problema. Pag undersized eh stability issues at component life ang problema. :P
bro Stageaness, after reading your post naalala ko bigla yung downgrade ko from 1hp AC to .6hp AC ;D

back to yygoob's setup thought, most likely you will be adding more HDD's so tama lang yung PSU mo.
downgrading the video card and PSU MIGHT help lower the consumption but will be moot since under 100 watts ang difference *in idle mode (ika nga ni Clondalkin, isang value meal lang ang difference nyan per month).  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 05, 2012 at 05:17 AM
bro Stageaness, after reading your post naalala ko bigla yung downgrade ko from 1hp AC to .6hp AC ;D

back to yygoob's setup thought, most likely you will be adding more HDD's so tama lang yung PSU mo.
downgrading the video card and PSU MIGHT help lower the consumption but will be moot since under 100 watts ang difference *in idle mode (ika nga ni Clondalkin, isang value meal lang ang difference nyan per month).   :)

Yup, and I wouldn't want to downgrade the video card if I were in his shoes. The HD 7770 is marvelous for video. :)

Until Trinity becomes mainstream, I'd try not to go below a 7750 unless it's a budget-oriented build. The A10 (Trinity) should be able to do extensive post processsing at full HD resolution without resorting to using a dedicated GPU or overclocking the built-in one (typically done with Llano APUs).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 05, 2012 at 05:26 AM
duling, i thought i was reading 7970 ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 05, 2012 at 05:33 AM
duling, i thought i was reading 7970 ;D

The 7970 would be even better. It should be able to do high quality post processing with 4k video. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 05, 2012 at 05:41 AM
The 7970 would be even better. It should be able to do high quality post processing with 4k video. ;)
kaya nga ako naglaptop nalang as HTPC bro ivan, mga ganyan post ang nakaka tempt mag upgrade eh  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 05, 2012 at 06:16 AM
kaya nga ako naglaptop nalang as HTPC bro ivan, mga ganyan post ang nakaka tempt mag upgrade eh  ;D

Master Jamy,

One day kakanta ka ng....









Babalik ka rin.


4k material:
http://timescapes.org/4k/about_the_movie.aspx (http://timescapes.org/4k/about_the_movie.aspx)
Eyefinity and 4k display users would love this.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 05, 2012 at 07:25 PM
pano ba mag unbookmark ng thread   ::)   ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jun 06, 2012 at 02:22 AM
pano ba mag unbookmark ng thread   ::)   ;D
master jamy pag nalaman mo na, pabulong na nga rin kung pwede ;D
hindi maiwasan basahin post ni master ivan eh.nanunukso parati :D :D :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 06, 2012 at 03:05 AM
Now that there are 8k (UHDTV) cameras, displays, and other gear, it's just a matter of time before we get it. I wonder if makers would put a lot of money on 4k when 8k is around the corner.

You get 16x the resolution and 2x the frame rate of Full HD with UHDTV.

Sharp Aquos 8k:
http://cdn.thetechjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/1-2.jpg (http://cdn.thetechjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/1-2.jpg)

I don't wanna know how much closer I'd need to watch this screen to enjoy all that detail.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jun 06, 2012 at 04:37 AM
Now that there are 8k (UHDTV) cameras, displays, and other gear, it's just a matter of time before we get it. I wonder if makers would put a lot of money on 4k when 8k is around the corner.

You get 16x the resolution and 2x the frame rate of Full HD with UHDTV.

Sharp Aquos 8k:
http://cdn.thetechjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/1-2.jpg (http://cdn.thetechjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/1-2.jpg)

I don't wanna know how much closer I'd need to watch this screen to enjoy all that detail.
hindi kaya 720 sa 4k at 1080 naman sa 8k master ivan?
parang katulad lang ng trend sa hd at fullhd sa ngayon
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 06, 2012 at 04:38 AM
master jamy pag nalaman mo na, pabulong na nga rin kung pwede ;D
hindi maiwasan basahin post ni master ivan eh.nanunukso parati :D :D :D

Hirap talaga dami nababasa na post na magaganda sa pdvd. Ako nag hahanap pano di makita ang magaganda na post para di ko mabasa.  ;D ;D

hindi kaya 720 sa 4k at 1080 naman sa 8k master ivan?
parang katulad lang ng trend sa hd at fullhd sa ngayon

Tama.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 06, 2012 at 05:43 AM
hindi kaya 720 sa 4k at 1080 naman sa 8k master ivan?
parang katulad lang ng trend sa hd at fullhd sa ngayon

Possible. But 4k is consumer level na ngayon, 8k will take a couple of years pa siguro dahil ang mahal pa ng technology.

Unlike 1080p vs 720p na 125% increase in data rate lang, the increase from 4k to 8k is a 700% jump.


Back to the topic...

For first-time budget HTPC builders, here's a simple guide:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5906/amd-llano-htpc-builders-guide (http://www.anandtech.com/show/5906/amd-llano-htpc-builders-guide)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 06, 2012 at 06:38 AM
I don't wanna know how much closer I'd need to watch this screen to enjoy all that detail.
sabay bawi?  :)
im happy with 720p right now, ill just wait for the next big thing (na mura :P )  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 06, 2012 at 10:03 AM
sabay bawi?  :)
im happy with 720p right now, ill just wait for the next big thing (na mura :P )  :)

Big thing?

(http://geobrava.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/panasonic_145_tv-11353149.jpg)
Is this 8k screen big enough?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 06, 2012 at 11:24 AM
that's it .. *clicking report to moderator*  ;D

on topic, is there a card that can take advantage of that screen via gaming? :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Jun 06, 2012 at 11:41 AM
that's it .. *clicking report to moderator*  ;D

on topic, is there a card that can take advantage of that screen via gaming? :)

Ayan na.. nagtatanong na si Master Jammy. :o
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 06, 2012 at 11:41 AM
that's it .. *clicking report to moderator*  ;D

on topic, is there a card that can take advantage of that screen via gaming? :)

Sa mainstream devices, hanggang 4k pa lang. However, kung gaming ang habol mo most games do not even reach 4k maski na capable yung hardware.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Slaveknight on Jun 07, 2012 at 06:05 AM
Big thing?

(http://geobrava.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/panasonic_145_tv-11353149.jpg)
Is this 8k screen big enough?

that would be useless. it depends on the film's aspect ratio
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 07, 2012 at 06:13 AM
Big thing?

(http://geobrava.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/panasonic_145_tv-11353149.jpg)
Is this 8k screen big enough?

Mas maganda ang TV na yan pag mainstream na din ang 8k source pero pag 1080p pa din parang ngayon lang na 720p play sa 1080p na TV.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 08, 2012 at 02:46 AM
that would be useless. it depends on the film's aspect ratio

Viewing material with a very different aspect ratio may waste a huge chunk of the screen, but a larger screen will still display a larger viewable image than a smaller screen of the same aspect ratio.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 08, 2012 at 02:49 AM
Mas maganda ang TV na yan pag mainstream na din ang 8k source pero pag 1080p pa din parang ngayon lang na 720p play sa 1080p na TV.

The current target market is all but mainstream, however.

And no, since the resolution is a direct multiple of 1080p, scaling from 1080p to 4320p should not cause any loss in clarity (it may even improve with good processing). This is not the case when scaling from 720p to 1080p.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 08, 2012 at 03:39 AM
Viewing material with a very different aspect ratio may waste a huge chunk of the screen, but a larger screen will still display a larger viewable image than a smaller screen of the same aspect ratio.

And you need a big room also to place such a big screen.  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Slaveknight on Jun 08, 2012 at 01:13 PM
Viewing material with a very different aspect ratio may waste a huge chunk of the screen, but a larger screen will still display a larger viewable image than a smaller screen of the same aspect ratio.

the larger it displays, images might be distorted nor leave watermarks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Clondalkin on Jun 08, 2012 at 01:43 PM
What do you mean?  Do you see watermarks in cinemas?   ;)

Based on the picture and judging from the "high-definition-ness" of 4K Cinema on IMAX screens (POTC, Titanic 2012), I'm positive 1080p would still very much suffice on a home TV that size - not much different from Streetsmart's huge PJ screen showing 1080p.   But if you're gonna watch Sky Cable on an 8K, of course that should suck 2x4K more (relative to the current performance of a full HD 1080p).

Obviously, a TV that big is not designed to be viewed from 7-8 ft just like a full HD 65V.

My spending money won't be able to afford an 8K TV that soon though.   ;D


the larger it displays, images might be distorted nor leave watermarks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Jun 08, 2012 at 03:53 PM
And you need a big room also to place such a big screen.  :D

Parang 32 inches lang yan sa Palasyo mo Elmer he he he he
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jun 08, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Ok na ba ito for an HT Laptop? ;D

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c03068260 (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c03068260)

(http://sortdeal.com/uploadimg/20111239262581270.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jun 08, 2012 at 08:17 PM
Ok na ba ito for an HT Laptop? ;D

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c03068260 (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c03068260)

(http://sortdeal.com/uploadimg/20111239262581270.jpg)

its okay. its Intel HD 3000 graphics is powerful enough to play most video formats in 1080P. its 640GB 5400rpm is sure to be a letdown though.   :-\

there are better and cheaper choices out there. :)  I'm currently using an MSI GE620DX with my 42" LG. (via HDMI) its really a gaming laptop, but I also use it for streaming, watching dvds, etc. I also replaced its stock HD with an SSD.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 09, 2012 at 01:32 AM
Ok na ba ito for an HT Laptop? ;D

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c03068260 (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c03068260)

(http://sortdeal.com/uploadimg/20111239262581270.jpg)

Hi Louie,

Yes, it would do the job. If you can get a 3rd generation processor, that would even be better.

Here's the same series with a 3rd gen processor:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-Pavilion/A3G47AV?HP-Pavilion-dv7t-7000-Quad-Edition-Entertainment-Notebook-PC (http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP-Pavilion/A3G47AV?HP-Pavilion-dv7t-7000-Quad-Edition-Entertainment-Notebook-PC)


Btw, do you really want a notebook that big?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 10, 2012 at 03:47 AM
The Acer Iconia W700 looks like a great HTPC in tablet form factor. :)
(http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/acer-iconia-w700.jpg)
(http://www.computeractive.co.uk/IMG/246/223246/acer-iconia-w700-windows-8-tablet-370x229.jpg)


Ivy Bridge gets true portability. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jun 19, 2012 at 12:08 PM
hello pdvd!  Can you suggest a form factor and casing na pang HTPC pero can accommodate gaming as well? the smaller the better, kaso baka mag ka problem pag mainit... TIA ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 19, 2012 at 12:29 PM
hello pdvd!  Can you suggest a form factor and casing na pang HTPC pero can accommodate gaming as well? the smaller the better, kaso baka mag ka problem pag mainit... TIA ;D

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc408/robrtsdolly/SilverstoneGD06B.png)


Silverstone GDO6B


(http://i46.tinypic.com/t6a51h.jpg)

Silverstone GD02


(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc408/robrtsdolly/SilverstoneLC20B.png)

Silverstone LC20B

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2cylidz.jpg)

Silverstone LC-16B-MR

(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g402/masterswave/LianLiPC-C60.png)

LianLi PC-C60

Lian Li PC-A01 Silver For Sale (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,154522.0.html)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jun 19, 2012 at 02:06 PM
Salamat Doc! Can it get any smaller? Pag smaller ba, mag kka problem na sa heat pag ginamit ko for gaming? Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: deo on Jun 19, 2012 at 02:18 PM
Doc, ung ganito ba pde ako increase ng memory and processor power pra ma accommodate ang gaming needs? anong brand tong case mo? thanks!

Just reposting my E350 HTPC:

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/HTPC-1.jpg)

Specifications:


Motherboard: Asrock E-350M1 w/ AMD Dual-Core Processor E350/E350D
Memory: Emaxx 4GB DDR3
Graphics: Sapphire ATI HD6450
HDD: 500GB WD Scorpio Blue

*small footprint...gets the job done even on 1080p mkvs.  Using XBMC on this machine.  ;) 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jun 19, 2012 at 02:50 PM

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc408/robrtsdolly/SilverstoneLC20B.png)

Silverstone LC20B



brader magkano ung Silverstone LC20B?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 19, 2012 at 06:41 PM
Doc, ung ganito ba pde ako increase ng memory and processor power pra ma accommodate ang gaming needs? anong brand tong case mo? thanks!


Kalimutan ko na brand ng casing pero for basic desktop functions and playing flawless full HD movies lang silbi nito.  Ewan ko lang sa gaming.  It can only fit ITX MOBOs and low profile video cards.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jun 19, 2012 at 07:01 PM
Doc, ung ganito ba pde ako increase ng memory and processor power pra ma accommodate ang gaming needs? anong brand tong case mo? thanks!


I don't think that you will have an issue with the memory and processor in the small cases shown above, except probably for those cases that accepts ITX boards only and limits you to Atom processors.  The issue if you're the type of a gamer who's into 3D gaming, you won't be able to fit the high-end video cards on those casing, and you wouldn't have enough power supply capacity for the high-end video cards.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 19, 2012 at 07:02 PM
brader magkano ung Silverstone LC20B?

P9800. Here's the link (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=17738548).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jun 19, 2012 at 07:30 PM
P9800. Here's the link (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=17738548).

thanks pricey pala  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 19, 2012 at 11:45 PM
I don't think that you will have an issue with the memory and processor in the small cases shown above, except probably for those cases that accepts ITX boards only and limits you to Atom processors.  The issue if you're the type of a gamer who's into 3D gaming, you won't be able to fit the high-end video cards on those casing, and you wouldn't have enough power supply capacity for the high-end video cards.

There are mini-ITX boards for Ivy Bridge processors and SFX power supplies recommended for use with GTX680 GPUs. They are just harder to find.

If you need more power (GTX 690 perhaps?), there are ITX casings that accomodate ATX power supplies.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: darkn1ght on Jun 20, 2012 at 03:37 AM
Patulong naman sa mga masters, I am opting to build a Gaming/HTPC rig and here are my planned specs:

cpu, i3-2120 - 5100php
mobo, Asrock H61M U3S3 - 3100php
ram, 8gb 4x2 DDR3 1600cl9 GSkill RJX - 2440php
ssd: OCZ Agility 3 90gb sata3 - 4999php
hdd, 1TB SG Cuda SATA3 - 5100php
odd, any DVDRW - 900php
gpu, 1gb HD7770 Sapphire OC - 7000php
psu, Corsair VX550 - 2900php
atx, Lian Li PC-A01 - 2000php

Any comments/feedback on the build?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 20, 2012 at 04:15 AM
Patulong naman sa mga masters, I am opting to build a Gaming/HTPC rig and here are my planned specs:

cpu, i3-2120 - 5100php
mobo, Asrock H61M U3S3 - 3100php
ram, 8gb 4x2 DDR3 1600cl9 GSkill RJX - 2440php
ssd: OCZ Agility 3 90gb sata3 - 4999php
hdd, 1TB SG Cuda SATA3 - 5100php
odd, any DVDRW - 900php
gpu, 1gb HD7770 Sapphire OC - 7000php
psu, Corsair VX550 - 2900php
atx, Lian Li PC-A01 - 2000php

Any comments/feedback on the build?

Go for a Bluray writer or combo drive to make your rig future proof till the next format comes out.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 20, 2012 at 04:43 AM
Go for a Bluray writer or combo drive to make your rig future proof till the next format comes out.  ;)

I super agree with this recommendation. :)

Also consider using a larger HDD, if you plan on storing media in there. 1TB gets tight really quick with that use.

If it'd help your budget allocation, you can go for value DDR3-1333 (Sandy Bridge officially tops out at 1333 anyway). As you can see, there is essentially no difference even with a Sandy Bridge i7 (1333 actually outperforms 1600 in this case):
(http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4503/39740.png)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: darkn1ght on Jun 20, 2012 at 04:47 AM
should i scrap the ssd and just stick with SATA drives?
would an AMD build be better?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 20, 2012 at 04:50 AM
should i scrap the ssd and just stick with SATA drives?
would an AMD build be better?

You can keep the SSD for the OS and applications, and have a large storage drive for media.

AMD or Intel wouldn't matter much at this level, as you'd likely be GPU-limited in most games. It's really a decision between 2 more powerful cores (Intel i3) or 4 weaker cores (AMD A6/A8/X4/FX4) at this price point.

If you're really wondering, the AMD 4-core solution would outperform the Intel solution on most tasks that are optimized for multiple cores. However, most games are not optimized for more than 2 cores -- thus Intel often has an edge for this use.

Multithreaded:
(http://www.bjorn3d.com/Material/revimages/cpu/AMD_A8-3870K/Everest08.jpg)

Single thread:
(http://www.bjorn3d.com/Material/revimages/cpu/AMD_A8-3870K/Cinebench_R115_01.jpg)


As for the 3D accelerator, the HD 7850 is a sweeter choice for Full HD gaming since the HD 7770 often struggles at this resolution with high quality settings.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: darkn1ght on Jun 20, 2012 at 05:27 AM
Revised Specs

Initial Build:
cpu, i3-2120 - 5100php
mobo, Asrock H61M U3S3 - 3100php
ram, 4x2 DDR3 1333 cl9 GSkill RJX - 2210php
ssd: OCZ Agility 3 90gb sata3 - 4999php
psu, Corsair VX550 - 2900php
atx, Lian Li PC-A01 - 2000php

odd, - i will be using an old one

To follow:
gpu, Sapphire HD 7850 2gb/256bit ddr5 - 10620php
hdd, 2tb WDC Caviar Green - 5430php
odd, - bluray reader/writer
cooler, Antec Kuhler H2O 620 - 2950php
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 21, 2012 at 08:07 AM
Revised Specs

Initial Build:
cpu, i3-2120 - 5100php
mobo, Asrock H61M U3S3 - 3100php
ram, 4x2 DDR3 1333 cl9 GSkill RJX - 2210php
ssd: OCZ Agility 3 90gb sata3 - 4999php
psu, Corsair VX550 - 2900php
atx, Lian Li PC-A01 - 2000php

odd, - i will be using an old one

To follow:
gpu, Sapphire HD 7850 2gb/256bit ddr5 - 10620php
hdd, 2tb WDC Caviar Green - 5430php
odd, - bluray reader/writer
cooler, Antec Kuhler H2O 620 - 2950php
sweldo na mamaya bro .. masesetup na ba yan tomorrow or sa weekend  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jun 21, 2012 at 09:41 PM
will a 4gb ram be enough for a htpc?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jun 21, 2012 at 11:46 PM
will a 4gb ram be enough for a htpc?

4gb is just right. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 22, 2012 at 12:44 AM
will a 4gb ram be enough for a htpc?

Consumer DRAM is cheap at the moment. I don't see a reason for skimping on it.

4GB will work just fine for the usual Windows 7/Vista-based HTPC application. 6GB or 8GB feels more responsive with varied loads however, if you plan on using a 64-bit OS. Of course, YMMV.

More RAM is a really cheap way of keeping everything running smoothly, imho. The extra RAM lets the OS allocate more memory for the cache and often reduces paging operations. The larger data prefetch and reuse storage hides disk/ssd latency a lot better and reduces wear on your components. This is especially helpful if you plan on using only one storage drive in the box.

If it extends HDD/SSD life by 25%, you may actually be spending less in the long run (if you plan on keeping the machine for that long). This essentially makes the performance improvement free.

One thing to note though: More RAM makes a PC more responsive AFTER completing the initial bootup and prefetch process. Bootup speed would not be quicker in most cases (unless you're really short of RAM), while prefetch will actually take a little longer (since there is more cache space to fill).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jun 22, 2012 at 07:27 AM
i have a spare 4gb ddr3 kasi dagdagan ko na lang  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 23, 2012 at 01:03 AM
6-8GB is the sweet spot for Windows Vista/7 64-bit with most current desktop applications, imho. I have 12GB and 16GB machines running 7, and they don't feel significantly faster than those running half that amount for the most part (and they spend much more time prefetching after bootup).

4GB of RAM is still a very reasonable size, and makes sense if you prefer using a 32-bit OS. I find 2GB fairly atrocious with higher iterations of Windows Vista/7 on the other hand, but this can still work great with stripped-down variants (Starter and Home Basic).

With today's fast processors, I'd happily go down a notch or two in speed grade in most cases if that'd translate to more usable memory (upto a certain point, of course) -- unless the PC would be dedicated for processing-intensive tasks such as data compression.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: emmanuelle_m89 on Jul 31, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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Shot at 2012-07-25

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Shot at 2012-07-25

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Shot at 2012-07-25

My gaming HTPC=

specs
asus p8z77-m
intel i5 3570k
intel ssd 330 120gb
seagate 500gb
8gb mushkin ram
asus gtx 550ti
550w enermax psu
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jul 31, 2012 at 11:52 AM
^ nice setup!  that's like my desktop save for the video cards. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Frankthetank on Aug 09, 2012 at 06:52 PM
Mga Guru's

I've converted my old pc to be a dedicated htpc.

Now yung videocard nya is wala hdmi, meron lang dvi.

So I'm using dvi to hdmi converter, wala nga lang sounds, which I understand.

Yung soundcard ko may optical, can I hook it up sa avr ko para sa kanya manggaling ang sound?

Is the SQ the same with the sound coming from hdmi?


This is just a temporary setup since I'll be upgrading the videocard with an hdmi soon. Priority ko muna ang bumili  ng speaker.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Aug 09, 2012 at 06:55 PM
Mga Guru's

I've converted my old pc to be a dedicated htpc.

Now yung videocard nya is wala hdmi, meron lang dvi.

So I'm using dvi to hdmi converter, wala nga lang sounds, which I understand.

Yung soundcard ko may optical, can I hook it up sa avr ko para sa kanya manggaling ang sound?

Is the SQ the same with the sound coming from hdmi?


This is just a temporary setup since I'll be upgrading the videocard with an hdmi soon. Priority ko muna ang bumili  ng speaker.

Thanks in advance.

yes, it would work. just setup your video and audio sources from your receiver's setup menu.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Frankthetank on Aug 09, 2012 at 07:08 PM
Thanks for the quick reply sir.

How about the SQ?

are they the same or one is superior?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 09, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Thanks for the quick reply sir.

How about the SQ?

are they the same or one is superior?

if DD and DTS then it should be the same, wala lang hd audio yung optical/coax :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: crazyhog on Aug 10, 2012 at 09:49 PM
sori d na ako nag backread....


do u buy dedicated sound card or un s MOBO n lang?
can decode DTS / DD na ba ang mga MOBO ngyn?
how about DTS HDMA?
PQ quality ng HTPC is better ba s NMT (xtreamer SW3)?

and ilan PSU watts gamit nyo, HTPC purposes only, para tipid mode.


goin to partner sana s ACER 5360 ko. TIA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Frankthetank on Aug 10, 2012 at 09:59 PM
if DD and DTS then it should be the same, wala lang hd audio yung optical/coax :)

ah.. thanks sir :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Aug 11, 2012 at 12:59 AM
sori d na ako nag backread....


do u buy dedicated sound card or un s MOBO n lang?
can decode DTS / DD na ba ang mga MOBO ngyn?
how about DTS HDMA?
PQ quality ng HTPC is better ba s NMT (xtreamer SW3)?

and ilan PSU watts gamit nyo, HTPC purposes only, para tipid mode.


goin to partner sana s ACER 5360 ko. TIA

For movies, okay na yung built in sound card since you're going to bitstream it to the receiver. Yung receiver na ang magde-decode.

DTS-HD will only work through HDMI.

IMO, picture quality of a decent HTPC is a lot better than an NMT.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Aug 11, 2012 at 03:47 AM
sori d na ako nag backread....


do u buy dedicated sound card or un s MOBO n lang?
can decode DTS / DD na ba ang mga MOBO ngyn?
how about DTS HDMA?
PQ quality ng HTPC is better ba s NMT (xtreamer SW3)?

and ilan PSU watts gamit nyo, HTPC purposes only, para tipid mode.


goin to partner sana s ACER 5360 ko. TIA

Power supply capacity requirement is dependent on the components that you'd be using. Aside from the rated output, the PSU quality and actual capacity are even bigger factors for long-term system reliability.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 11, 2012 at 04:19 AM
Built a new basic rig about a months ago ...... heard about the decent built-in graphics of the Llano series.

AMD Llano A6-3500
MSI A75MA-P35
4Gb RAM
SEAGATE 500Gb HDD
COOLERMASTER 500W PSU

Not much into PC games any more, so no videocard yet - besides, wanted to see how the built-in HD-65XX handles the graphics chores.

However, just a few days weeks into using the new rig ...... I've been seeing streaks of fine, horizontal black lines across my screen ..... these lines occur randomly ..... though have noticed that they often appear right after the 1-second blackout blink during a fresh program install (I have disabled this blink, but still the fine black lines appear from time to time).

Since the black line were getting to be annoying & to isolate the issue - had installed an old HD4650 videocard ...... since using the HD4650 videocard, I no longer see the black lines.

Have checked and saw that drivers are updated ...... could the black lines be a hardware issue or just needs some tweaking of some settings ??

Thanks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Aug 11, 2012 at 04:26 AM
Built a new basic rig about a months ago ...... heard about the decent built-in graphics of the Llano series.

AMD Llano A6-3500
MSI A75MA-P35
4Gb RAM
SEAGATE 500Gb HDD
COOLERMASTER 500W PSU

Not much into PC games any more, so no videocard yet - besides, wanted to see how the built-in HD-65XX handles the graphics chores.

However, just a few days weeks into using the new rig ...... I've been seeing streaks of fine, horizontal black lines across my screen ..... these lines occur randomly ..... though have noticed that they often appear right after the 1-second blackout blink during a fresh program install (I have disabled this blink, but still the fine black lines appear from time to time).

Since the black line were getting to be annoying & to isolate the issue - had installed an old HD4650 videocard ...... since using the HD4650 videocard, I no longer see the black lines.

Have checked and saw that drivers are updated ...... could the black lines be a hardware issue or just needs some tweaking of some settings ??

Thanks.

I've never had such issues with an A8-3870K. Perhaps you can look into updating the BIOS and/or uninstalling/reinstalling the drivers. You can also try to relax your memory timing (what RAM sticks are you using btw?). If these do not resolve the issue, it could indeed be a hardware issue (HDMI problem or faulty hardware).

The built-in graphics engine of your A6 can deliver better video quality than your HD 4650, if it's running right and is configured properly.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 11, 2012 at 04:36 AM
I've never had such issues with an A8-3870K. Perhaps you can look into updating the BIOS and/or uninstalling/reinstalling the drivers. If that does not resolve the issue, it could indeed be a hardware issue (HDMI problem or faulty hardware).

The built-in video of your A6 can deliver better video quality than your HD4650, if it's running right and is configured properly.

Definitely ..... the video quality went down some notches, when I went from A6 to the older HD4650 videocard.

I was quite impressed with the video quality of the A6 ..... the experience just got sidetracked with the annoying black lines.

Will try to uninstall/install the drivers ...... just might do the trick.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 11, 2012 at 06:23 AM

PQ quality ng HTPC is better ba s NMT (xtreamer SW3)?


Based on my experience YES!  ;D. You can change media players and tweak them according to your preference without changing your hardware.  I am presently using Splash Pro Ex which has superb PQ and can do "motion flow" even if your display isn't 120hz capable.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jackryan on Aug 11, 2012 at 09:34 AM
Double thumbs up for Splash Pro Ex here too ;D !!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Frankthetank on Aug 11, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Splash Pro user here too....

great Picture Quality!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: crazyhog on Aug 11, 2012 at 01:53 PM
Based on my experience YES!  ;D. You can change media players and tweak them according to your preference without changing your hardware.  I am presently using Splash Pro Ex which has superb PQ and can do "motion flow" even if your display isn't 120hz capable.

newbie s XBMC thing. i dwnload XBMC EDEN and was amazed s ganda ng interface nya and un mga movie info.  nanghinayang tuloy ako y i bought xtreamer SW3. nwei, questions po:

1. Splash Pro E is external player na e integrate ko s XBMC, ryt? but how?
2. some files i want to dlete s Library pero dko xa ma delete. ano gawin ko? tried remove from library and clean library s setting, nothng works.
3. how do u set BITSTREAM s MOBO's audio?
4. what are your MUST ADD-ONs? para ma test ko hehehe


SALAMAT in advance and sana d kau magsawa tumulong s new hobby ko. for now triaL mode muna me
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Aug 11, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Hello mga brader. Ask lang, sa HTPC po ba, paano/ano po ang pwedeng gawing remote control? Then if you're going to connect it to an AV Receiver, HDMI (video card) po ba to HDMI in sa AVR for BOTH audio and video? Ano po kaibahan when using Optical cables (sound card)?

Thanks po.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Aug 11, 2012 at 05:38 PM
Hello mga brader. Ask lang, sa HTPC po ba, paano/ano po ang pwedeng gawing remote control? Then if you're going to connect it to an AV Receiver, HDMI (video card) po ba to HDMI in sa AVR for BOTH audio and video? Ano po kaibahan when using Optical cables (sound card)?

Thanks po.

HTPC Remotes: http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,49072.1530.html

Yes, hdmi cable lang ang kailangan for both audio and video.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Aug 12, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Mga sir, how to decode audio from PC to AVR?
Ang lumalabas lang kasi na audio from PC to AVR DTS only. Video has DTS-HD Audio
Receiver - Yamaha 371
Video card - Ati Radeon
Player - VLC

Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Billabong on Aug 12, 2012 at 10:53 AM
I'm not sure but I think hindi pa supported ng VLC ang HD audio. Try another player like PowerDVD or Splashpro.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Aug 12, 2012 at 01:10 PM
I'm not sure but I think hindi pa supported ng VLC ang HD audio. Try another player like PowerDVD or Splashpro.

thanks sir, try ko :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: crazyhog on Aug 14, 2012 at 07:14 PM
ganda ng SPLASH PRO EX but any trick na ma stretch un image ng movie para mawala un black horizontal lines?
for XBMC default player, meron kc eto un s pixel ratio.

TiA
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Aug 15, 2012 at 04:41 PM
Mga sir, okay na po ba ang AMD Llano/FM1 Processor for HTPC?
Processor - Quad Core A8-3850 2.9Ghz
Board - MSI A55M-P33

Yan sana plan ko ilagay sa Lian-li PC-Q08 or Lian Li PC-V354

TIA :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 15, 2012 at 04:55 PM
Mga sir, okay na po ba ang AMD Llano/FM1 Processor for HTPC?
Processor - Quad Core A8-3850 2.9Ghz
Board - MSI A55M-P33

Yan sana plan ko ilagay sa Lian-li PC-Q08 or Lian Li PC-V354

TIA :)

I've been reading great reviews @TPC for the A8 series ..... 

Suggest to make your mobo into the A75 ...... USB3.0 is way useful for those huge files. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Aug 15, 2012 at 05:00 PM
I've been reading great reviews @TPC for the A8 series ..... 

Suggest to make your mobo into the A75 ...... USB3.0 is way useful for those huge files. 


thanks sir newwaveboy :)

how about this type of board --- Gigabyte GA-A75M-DS2 (Php 3,200)

excited lang :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 15, 2012 at 05:06 PM
thanks sir newwaveboy :)

how about this type of board --- Gigabyte GA-A75M-DS2 (Php 3,200)

excited lang :)

GIGABYTE A75 should be okay as well ...... just stay off the ASROCK A75 - heard that there was a recall due to faulty components.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: crazyhog on Aug 15, 2012 at 11:37 PM
d kaya takaw s kuryente eto and enug na ba for HTPC plus NBA2k12 lang hehhe


Processor: AMD A6-3650 Quad Core 2.6GHZ   
Mother Board: ASUS F1A55-M LX3 FM1   
HDD: HITACHI DESKSTAR 500GB   
RAM: Kingston 4GB DDR3   


or ano suggest nyo po?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Aug 16, 2012 at 01:34 AM
d kaya takaw s kuryente eto and enug na ba for HTPC plus NBA2k12 lang hehhe


Processor: AMD A6-3650 Quad Core 2.6GHZ   
Mother Board: ASUS F1A55-M LX3 FM1   
HDD: HITACHI DESKSTAR 500GB   
RAM: Kingston 4GB DDR3   


or ano suggest nyo po?

Add a dedicated graphics adapter if you wanna play games decently. An HD 7770 or higher would be useful.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Aug 16, 2012 at 09:21 AM
d kaya takaw s kuryente eto and enug na ba for HTPC plus NBA2k12 lang hehhe


Processor: AMD A6-3650 Quad Core 2.6GHZ   
Mother Board: ASUS F1A55-M LX3 FM1   
HDD: HITACHI DESKSTAR 500GB   
RAM: Kingston 4GB DDR3   


or ano suggest nyo po?

AMD Llano APUs are very efficient when idle, but can consume a lot when gaming. if you really want a power efficient rig, I recommend getting a really good power supply. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 16, 2012 at 09:36 AM
My HTPC setup can play NBA2K12 with max settings on a 110 PJ screen. I believe you don't need a quadcore and core 2 is enough for movie and some games.  ;) ;)

Asus LGA 1155 MATX Mobo
Intel G620 Processor
2x2GB  Ripjaw
2.5 320GB HDD
600 Watts PSU
Antec Veris by Imon Remote
Sapphire HD6770 Vapor X
Lian LI V350 MATX Case

(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1069/sdc10255sg.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Aug 19, 2012 at 05:14 PM
Sir i would like to ask if ATI 4850 support bitstreaming HD audio - DTS-HD & TrueHD.
formatted my PC and follow these instructions --- http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010/02/02/guide-setting-up-bitstreaming-with-your-windows-7-htpc-part-i/ and still the same, it only shows DTS. :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 19, 2012 at 06:09 PM
Sir i would like to ask if ATI 4850 support bitstreaming HD audio - DTS-HD & TrueHD.
formatted my PC and follow these instructions --- http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010/02/02/guide-setting-up-bitstreaming-with-your-windows-7-htpc-part-i/ and still the same, it only shows DTS. :(

For ATI, the lowest model that can bitstream HD Audio is HD5450. For NVIDIA, GT430.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Aug 19, 2012 at 06:17 PM
For ATI, the lowest model that can bitstream HD Audio is HD5450. For NVIDIA, GT430.

Thanks so much doc :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 19, 2012 at 06:25 PM
Thanks so much doc :)


No problem.  Buy the ATI 5450 nalang.  Last time I asked P1200.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Aug 19, 2012 at 06:32 PM
No problem.  Buy the ATI 5450 nalang.  Last time I asked P1200.

compatible ba sya sa ganitong board doc --- A75M-ITX or GA-A75N-USB3. mini itx kasi ang e build ko... thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Aug 19, 2012 at 07:20 PM
compatible ba sya sa ganitong board doc --- A75M-ITX or GA-A75N-USB3. mini itx kasi ang e build ko... thanks

very compatible ang 5450. low-profile lang ang video card na yan. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sientobente on Aug 19, 2012 at 08:23 PM
Have a question regarding the cd/dvd drive, my laptop and desktop pc can't read some of my audio cds but it plays fine on a cdp or a regular dvd player. how can i make sure that the drive i get reads all types of cds?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Aug 19, 2012 at 08:31 PM
Have a question regarding the cd/dvd drive, my laptop and desktop pc can't read some of my audio cds but it plays fine on a cdp or a regular dvd player. how can i make sure that the drive i get reads all types of cds?
wala ba sa manual ng cd/dvd drive mo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sientobente on Aug 19, 2012 at 08:48 PM
wala ba sa manual ng cd/dvd drive mo?

i don't think my laptop's cd drive has a manual. same din kasi sa desktop pc, hindi binabasa yung audio cd. nasira pa ng ng cd/dvd drive ko yung nora jones cd ko kasi it showed as a blank cd.  :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Aug 19, 2012 at 09:06 PM
i don't think my laptop's cd drive has a manual. same din kasi sa desktop pc, hindi binabasa yung audio cd. nasira pa ng ng cd/dvd drive ko yung nora jones cd ko kasi it showed as a blank cd.  :(
naku yari!
sayang si nora.
cd writer ba rom mo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Aug 20, 2012 at 03:34 AM
i don't think my laptop's cd drive has a manual. same din kasi sa desktop pc, hindi binabasa yung audio cd. nasira pa ng ng cd/dvd drive ko yung nora jones cd ko kasi it showed as a blank cd.  :(

Granted that your hardware and media are okay: Kung original na content-protected disc siya, hindi siya dapat makasira pero possible na hindi siya magplay. Minsan makikita siya ng computer as a data disc or magpopop ng software sa autorun, and in some cases eh hindi lang talaga makikita ng computer as readable format.

Medyo bihira sa local distribution ang protected discs. Pero kung imported yung disc, medyo madaming mga copy-protected sa ibang markets. Tignan mo kung may nakasulat sa disc about it, or kung walang CDDA logo yung disc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 20, 2012 at 05:21 AM
compatible ba sya sa ganitong board doc --- A75M-ITX or GA-A75N-USB3. mini itx kasi ang e build ko... thanks

I also have an Asrock ITX board and installed HD6450 which has a low profile adapter very much the same as the HD5450.  I also have an NVIDIA GT520 na low profile din which is also good for ITX builds.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Alfie on Aug 20, 2012 at 08:29 AM
Have a question regarding the cd/dvd drive, my laptop and desktop pc can't read some of my audio cds but it plays fine on a cdp or a regular dvd player. how can i make sure that the drive i get reads all types of cds?

Did you configure the CDROM properties ? if not right click CDROM go to properties, select music files choose player. Also try to input proper codecs like cccp or Klite then choose classic media player as default player. Another thing have you installed iTunes?

Now if you've done all of the above, and the CD still cannot be read (but can be read by a CD player) then it's probably a hardware issue e.g. the way the data was burned on the CD etc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ndy on Aug 20, 2012 at 08:51 AM
compatible ba sya sa ganitong board doc --- A75M-ITX or GA-A75N-USB3. mini itx kasi ang e build ko... thanks

sir pasok siguro ;D  naka asrock a75 pro4 m at hd5450:)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Aug 20, 2012 at 09:08 AM
sir pasok siguro ;D  naka asrock a75 pro4 m at hd5450:)

thank you sir. kelangan na talaga mag build. kasi ayaw lumabas ni DTS-HD and TrueHD sa old card ko na 4850 :D Thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Aug 21, 2012 at 05:31 AM
Yung 4850 ko walang HDMI port. DVI lang lahat...

Regarding audio sa Video cards, same lang ba compared to using dedicated audio cards? It's more convenient than having a sound card for me.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Aug 21, 2012 at 06:03 AM
Regarding audio sa Video cards, same lang ba compared to using dedicated audio cards? It's more convenient than having a sound card for me.

If you're using a video card with proper HD audio support, wala dapat kaso sa audio versus the HDMI audio adapters ng Asus and Auzentech + your 4850 basta wala kang compatibility issue.

High Jitter interface ang HDMI to begin with, so mas malaking factor ay ang receiving end kung particular ka sa sound quality.

Mas mura ang new video card kesa sa HDMI sound adapter, so mas practical siyang solution. You also get better video quality with today's graphics adapters, saka HDMI 1.4a support.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 02, 2012 at 05:56 PM
Thanks Pinoydvd for the tips and tricks for the HTPC :)
lumabas rin sa wakas ang DTS-HD Master & Dolby True HD

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/582755_3847423072286_1555395128_n.jpg)


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404169_3847421192239_1067141303_n.jpg)

Done building my HTPC
MSi A75MA-P35
AMD Llano 3850
Kingston Hyper-X 8GB DDR1600
Sapphire 7750HD
Lian-Li PC-V354 Case
Thermaltake 500watts PSU
:)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 02, 2012 at 06:01 PM
Thanks Pinoydvd for the tips and tricks for the HTPC :)
lumabas rin sa wakas ang DTS-HD Master & Dolby True HD

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/582755_3847423072286_1555395128_n.jpg)


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404169_3847421192239_1067141303_n.jpg)

Done building my HTPC
MSi A75MA-P35
AMD Llano 3850
Kingston Hyper-X 8GB DDR1600
Sapphire 7750HD
Lian-Li PC-V354 Case
Thermaltake 500watts PSU
:)

Congrats brader.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 13, 2012 at 09:45 AM
Bought a 5-meter HDMI cable and connected it from my HD4850 to Pioneer VSX-1021-K.

HD4850 doesn't have HDMI out, fortunately may nahukay akong DVI-HDMI adapter and it worked. I can get both video and audio running. Also the DTS and Dolby formats.

Inconvenient lang kasi 1680x1050 lang resolution ng monitor ko. Ma change yung icons when I switch displays. :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 13, 2012 at 09:49 AM
Bought a 5-meter HDMI cable and connected it from my HD4850 to Pioneer VSX-1021-K.

HD4850 doesn't have HDMI out, fortunately may nahukay akong DVI-HDMI adapter and it worked. I can get both video and audio running. Also the DTS and Dolby formats.

Inconvenient lang kasi 1680x1050 lang resolution ng monitor ko. Ma change yung icons when I switch displays. :(

Good day Sir.
Maka bitstream ba yung 4850 mo ng DTS-HD and Dolby True-HD? Thanks :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 13, 2012 at 09:57 AM
Good day Sir.
Maka bitstream ba yung 4850 mo ng DTS-HD and Dolby True-HD? Thanks :)

Good am sir. I haven't tried it yet but I think hindi pa pwede in this series. Dts-hdma and dolby trueHD for sure mayron na sa HD5*** and above series.

That's why I'm planning to upgrade my card to HD7770 (After 4 years without a single upgrade. Lol)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 13, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Buo na din HTPC ko hehe-wala palang VC haha...pero sulit na it plays 3D.iso without problem.
format ang will try to install windows8 hehe

LIAN-LI HTPC Casing
AMD A6 3500
ASROCK A75 PRO4-M
CORSAIR VENGEANCE CL9 4GB 1600
GIGABYTE E570 80plus 570W
80GB MAXTOR HD  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 13, 2012 at 10:15 AM
Buo na din HTPC ko hehe-wala palang VC haha...pero sulit na it plays 3D.iso without problem.
format ang will try to install windows8 hehe

LIAN-LI HTPC Casing
AMD A6 3500
ASROCK A75 PRO4-M
CORSAIR VENGEANCE CL9 4GB 1600
GIGABYTE E570 80plus 570W
80GB MAXTOR HD  ;D  ;D

Congrats Sir :)
Iba talaga pag Lian-li :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Sep 13, 2012 at 01:35 PM
Buo na din HTPC ko hehe-wala palang VC haha...pero sulit na it plays 3D.iso without problem.
format ang will try to install windows8 hehe

LIAN-LI HTPC Casing
AMD A6 3500
ASROCK A75 PRO4-M
CORSAIR VENGEANCE CL9 4GB 1600
GIGABYTE E570 80plus 570W
80GB MAXTOR HD  ;D  ;D
patay....simula na naman ng kabaliwan :D
congrats sis
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 13, 2012 at 02:16 PM
patay....simula na naman ng kabaliwan :D
congrats sis

hehe...tipid sa kuryente
40-50watts idle/dowload
70watts movie
core temp or 3cores 25-30C hihihihi
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM
hehe...tipid sa kuryente
40-50watts idle/dowload
70watts movie
core temp or 3cores 25-30C hihihihi
pics naman dyan.  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 13, 2012 at 10:58 PM
I think napaka takaw ng setup ko.. Old skul kasi. 4-year old rig. :(

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz
MSI P45-NEO2
2x2GB DDR2 800
Palit HD4850 Sonic 512MB <--- Will be replaced with HD7770
Gigabyte Superb 720W
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 14, 2012 at 03:24 AM
I think napaka takaw ng setup ko.. Old skul kasi. 4-year old rig. :(

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz
MSI P45-NEO2
2x2GB DDR2 800
Palit HD4850 Sonic 512MB <--- Will be replaced with HD7770
Gigabyte Superb 720W
wag mo na kasi OC yung proc bro di naman kailangan  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Sep 14, 2012 at 03:45 AM
Dumadami naka HTPC. Congrats sa lahat ng humakot. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 14, 2012 at 09:39 AM
wag mo na kasi OC yung proc bro di naman kailangan  ;)

Yan po talaga stock speed ng E8500 bro. Hehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sientobente on Sep 14, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Buo na din HTPC ko hehe-wala palang VC haha...pero sulit na it plays 3D.iso without problem.
format ang will try to install windows8 hehe

LIAN-LI HTPC Casing
AMD A6 3500
ASROCK A75 PRO4-M
CORSAIR VENGEANCE CL9 4GB 1600
GIGABYTE E570 80plus 570W
80GB MAXTOR HD  ;D  ;D

Bro magkano ang ganyang casing? Ano din itsura niya? Can it accomodate large video cards?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Yan po talaga stock speed ng E8500 bro. Hehehe
my bad .. duling puyat at nasa office pa  ;D
honestly akala ko parang core 2 duo 6400 (yung 2.1 ang stock)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:35 AM
(http://i53.tinypic.com/orkygk.jpg)

habang nagsesetup ng htpc mga sir.. pag gusto niyo malaman saan weak link ng pc niyo maganda po gumamit ng ganitong device.. :D

para malaman kung saan kailangan ng fan.. at saan naman sapat na.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Sep 14, 2012 at 04:09 PM
Bro magkano ang ganyang casing? Ano din itsura niya? Can it accomodate large video cards?

How large a graphics adapter? Mga GTX 690?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sientobente on Sep 14, 2012 at 05:04 PM
How large a graphics adapter? Mga GTX 690?

master i'm eyeing the hd7770.

just checked the price of lian-li's htpc casing sa tpc, mahal pala  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Sep 15, 2012 at 02:35 AM
master i'm eyeing the hd7770.

just checked the price of lian-li's htpc casing sa tpc, mahal pala  ;D

The HD7770 isn't that big (at least the board isn't). It's just a full height card na madalas dual-slot cooler, pero in terms of length maikli lang siya. Basta kaya ng case na full height and may extra slot beside the x16 slot, chances are pasok yan. :)
(http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Gigabyte/HD_7770_OC/images/pressshot.jpg)

For really compact casings, there's the HD7750 low-profile single slot solution.
(http://content.hwigroup.net:8080/images/news/hd%207750%20low%20profile.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Sep 15, 2012 at 05:46 AM
(http://media.sapphiretech.com//images/prods/1452/11201-00_HD7770_GHz_1GBGDDR5_2miniDP_HDMI_DVI_PCIE_FBC_634642999539907141_600_600.jpg)
droool mode :o
tsalap tsalap :P
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 15, 2012 at 07:51 AM
(http://media.sapphiretech.com//images/prods/1452/11201-00_HD7770_GHz_1GBGDDR5_2miniDP_HDMI_DVI_PCIE_FBC_634642999539907141_600_600.jpg)
droool mode :o
tsalap tsalap :P

pwede rin eto sir :)
(http://media.sapphiretech.com//images/prods/1523/11201-05_HD7770_Vapor-X_OC_1GBGDDR5_DP_HDMI_2DVI_PCIE_FBC_634720982846055624_600_600.jpg)
:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Sep 15, 2012 at 08:13 AM
What's interesting is that there are low profile and single slot HD 7850 boards. :)

Single Slot
(http://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/AFOX-AF78501.jpg)

Low Profile
(http://www.warcom.com.au/shop_image/product/192c848729ba81fda89429375fe3479b.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 15, 2012 at 10:36 AM
pansin ko lang bakit mas preferred ang ati for ht instead of nvidia?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 15, 2012 at 11:11 AM
@Stagea: sir yung processor ko kasi na Llano 3850 with Radeon HD 6550D, currently im using sapphire 7750. may improve ba sir pa e remove ko ang 7750 then kabitan ko ng 6550 para maging crossfire. thanks :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Sep 15, 2012 at 09:34 PM
pansin ko lang bakit mas preferred ang ati for ht instead of nvidia?
as far as im concern may gusto ko timpla ng ati over nvidia.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 15, 2012 at 09:48 PM
as far as im concern may gusto ko timpla ng ati over nvidia.

parang mas 3d friendly kasi nvidia base on the review i read
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Sep 16, 2012 at 12:28 AM
parang mas 3d friendly kasi nvidia base on the review i read
paanong 3D friendly? sa player naman ang settings nyan eh.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mickmads on Sep 16, 2012 at 12:52 AM
Luma na pero pwedeng-pwede pa (for me)  ;D

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s196/mickmads/IMG_0296.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s196/mickmads/DSC_0471.jpg)

- Antec ISK 300-150
- ECS H55 itx mobo
- Intel Core I3 2500 proc
- 4gb Corsair XMS DDR3
- 40GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD
- Wireless keyboard and mouse

Sana makabuo ulit bago matapos ang taon  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Sep 16, 2012 at 03:14 AM
@Stagea: sir yung processor ko kasi na Llano 3850 with Radeon HD 6550D, currently im using sapphire 7750. may improve ba sir pa e remove ko ang 7750 then kabitan ko ng 6550 para maging crossfire. thanks :)

HD 7750 is better than HD 6550D + HD 6670 crossfire. Crossfire relies on profiles to work well with applications, so it does not work in all cases (and it doesn't work for video at the moment). The HD 7000 series also has a slight image quality advantage over the HD 6000 series.

pansin ko lang bakit mas preferred ang ati for ht instead of nvidia?

Because AMD (or ATi) has had the lead in video quality in consumer video for quite some time now and offers better built-in video processing features. AMD's past 3 (and Intel's past 2) GPU generations have offered such great video, in all honesty. Nvidia has been trying to close the gap recently (and they've made quite some progress with the Geforce 500 and 600 series), but they're still behind AMD's and Intel's solutions (particularly with noise/artifact reduction and video conversion).

Nvidia offers advantages in some other aspects, but they're not quite the HTPC darling because they haven't polished their video processing to match the competition. It seems like they're just realizing this market now, as their high end products up until the Geforce 500 series did not support HD Audio bitstreaming.

I like both AMD and Nvidia, and I use both solutions. However, I handle video processing via software when running my Nvidia-based rig to work around Nvidia's video issues.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 16, 2012 at 09:37 AM
paanong 3D friendly? sa player naman ang settings nyan eh.

mas nauna kasi silang nag support ng 3D video pero sabi nga ni brader stagea walang HD Audio bitstreaming

Because AMD (or ATi) has had the lead in video quality in consumer video for quite some time now and offers better built-in video processing features. AMD's past 3 (and Intel's past 2) GPU generations have offered such great video, in all honesty. Nvidia has been trying to close the gap recently (and they've made quite some progress with the Geforce 500 and 600 series), but they're still behind AMD's and Intel's solutions (particularly with noise/artifact reduction and video conversion).

Nvidia offers advantages in some other aspects, but they're not quite the HTPC darling because they haven't polished their video processing to match the competition. It seems like they're just realizing this market now, as their high end products up until the Geforce 500 series did not support HD Audio bitstreaming.

I like both AMD and Nvidia, and I use both solutions. However, I handle video processing via software when running my Nvidia-based rig to work around Nvidia's video issues.

brader im already using a HD5850 right now for my gaming rig and im planning to build a dedicated htpc im planning to use the HD5850 on the htpc and use a nvidia for gaming but im not sure if the 5850 can do 3D video
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Sep 16, 2012 at 09:54 AM
brader im already using a HD5850 right now for my gaming rig and im planning to build a dedicated htpc im planning to use the HD5850 on the htpc and use a nvidia for gaming but im not sure if the 5850 can do 3D video

HD 5850 can support 3D output, but does not offer UVD support for BD 3D (you may be able to make it work via software).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 16, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Mga boss, is it okay if I'll add 2 more RAM sticks that have different brands with my current 2x2GB rams?

But they're all PC2-6400 DDR2-800
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Sep 16, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Mga boss, is it okay if I'll add 2 more RAM sticks that have different brands with my current 2x2GB rams?

But they're all PC2-6400 DDR2-800

Since you're using a P45, chances are you'd be okay. There are cases when the BIOS selects the wrong memory timing and/or voltage for mixed memory, and in such cases you'd likely have to enter these things manually. It just works automatically in the majority of cases, however.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 16, 2012 at 11:23 AM
HD 5850 can support 3D output, but does not offer UVD support for BD 3D (you may be able to make it work via software).

Sir Ivan, my HTPC has ATI HD6450 has AMDHD3D technology.  I have played my videos via PowerDVD 12 and DVDfab Media Player.  Both are 3D compatible but both media players only show the 3D BD ISO in 2D.  Is your post above the reason why this is so?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Sep 16, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Sir Ivan, my HTPC has ATI HD6450 has AMDHD3D technology.  I have played my videos via PowerDVD 12 and DVDfab Media Player.  Both are 3D compatible but both media players only show the 3D BD ISO in 2D.  Is your post above the reason why this is so?

Hi Doc,

The HD 6450 has UVD 3 (which supports BD 3D). It's the HD 5000 series (UVD 2.2) and older models that lack this functionality. What screen are you using? Have you gone through the 3D configuration of your player?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 16, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Hi Doc,

The HD 6450 has UVD 3 (which supports BD 3D). It's the HD 5000 series (UVD 2.2) and older models that lack this functionality. What screen are you using? Have you gone through the 3D configuration of your player?

I've read a lot forums and the problem is common.  I couldn't find any concrete solution to this.  Seems like the problem is only for 3D BD ISO but no problem in 3D BDs.  Causes stem from the ripping of the BDs to ISO.

I'll go back again to the settings.  Maybe I missed on something.


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 16, 2012 at 02:01 PM
thanks i think i'll just get a newer model ati for the htpc and stick with the 5850 for gaming
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Sep 16, 2012 at 02:45 PM
thanks i think i'll just get a newer model ati for the htpc and stick with the 5850 for gaming

That's also an option. Because of the lack of UVD 3, a system using HD 5000 series graphics requires far more CPU power to run 3D (and you're limited to full-screen use).

Here's a 6-core CPU being taxed to about half capacity:
(http://media.bestofmicro.com/9/S/288064/original/BR3D%20CPU%20Usage.png)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 16, 2012 at 02:49 PM
just checked the price of lian-li's htpc casing sa tpc, mahal pala  ;D
WORTH EVERY PENNY!  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Sep 16, 2012 at 03:02 PM
I've read a lot forums and the problem is common.  I couldn't find any concrete solution to this.  Seems like the problem is only for 3D BD ISO but no problem in 3D BDs.  Causes stem from the ripping of the BDs to ISO.

I'll go back again to the settings.  Maybe I missed on something.

Is it playing smoothly in 2D?

If you have doubts that your rips are not being recognized by UVD, unticking "enable hardware acceleration" under PowerDVD may work. That should run everything in Software.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 16, 2012 at 03:11 PM
That's also an option. Because of the lack of UVD 3, a system using HD 5000 series graphics requires far more CPU power to run 3D (and you're limited to full-screen use).

Here's a 6-core CPU being taxed to about half capacity:
(http://media.bestofmicro.com/9/S/288064/original/BR3D%20CPU%20Usage.png)

what a big difference and more cpu utilization means greater power consumption
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: stockHT on Sep 21, 2012 at 08:22 PM
mga sir hihingi sana ako ng tulong.

first time ko magbubuo ng HTPC at 2 days na ako nagbabasa pero dami pa din malabo.

eto requirements ko:

•   Can Play 1080p or if mahal kahit 720 upscale
•   Can play not-so-heavy-games
•   Low Power Consumption
•   With HDMI
•   With USB 3.0
•   With pleasing personality
•   Will be used as a torrent rig
•   Optical Out for Audio

Nag try ako mag lista ng parts pero parang hindi ko alam ginagawa ko :(
Working budget is only 11k.

Baka matulungan nyo ko sa htpc setup ko sir tulong naman sa mga combination ng parts.

thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Oct 21, 2012 at 12:36 PM
updated my htpc.. kayalang medyo masikip na yung loob ng case.. hehe
i love my case pero promise ko sa sarili ko.. it will be my last upgrade sa case na ito.. i will move to tower.. hehe

LG 55lx6500

i5-3450
asrock z68 mobo
2gb ddr3 ocz ram (hiniram ko lang sa torrent rig.. hati muna sila.. hehe ) coming is 8gb ddr3 kingston hyperX
60gb ocz ssd (temporary) coming is 120gb ssd kingston hyperX
1.5tb internal seagate barracuda
ocz 700w psu
coolermaster htpc case
CDRKING bt dongle
CDRKING 3.5" Card reader

logitech mk550 mouse keyboard set (if kailangan niyo.. may benta ako.. hehehe)
logitech m515 couch mouse (if kailangan niyo may benta din ako.. hehehe)
logitech harmony 200

2x 2tb samsung hd on usb3 dock

laus 2.1 speakers

(http://i48.tinypic.com/wcg4jk.jpg)

(http://i50.tinypic.com/fymoth.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2hrn6s8.jpg)

(http://i45.tinypic.com/zl2rgh.jpg)

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2je6azq.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Oct 22, 2012 at 08:56 AM
Quote
(http://i50.tinypic.com/fymoth.jpg)

bro anong model ung case?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Oct 22, 2012 at 10:09 AM
cooler master CM media 262 po..

baka facedout na yan.. i got it.. mga 7 years ago.. but medyo may sentimental sa kahit anong gamit.. kaya di na napalitan

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=5942
http://www.coolermaster.com/upload/download/221/files/CMMedia262_ProductSheet.pdf
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Oct 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM
cooler master CM media 262 po..

baka facedout na yan.. i got it.. mga 7 years ago.. but medyo may sentimental sa kahit anong gamit.. kaya di na napalitan

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=5942
http://www.coolermaster.com/upload/download/221/files/CMMedia262_ProductSheet.pdf

thanks tagal ko na naghahanap ng case and i think will suit my requirements sana meron pa makuhanan
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Oct 22, 2012 at 11:52 AM
http://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Aluminum-Steel-Center-ML03B/dp/B004GGUAUE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350877835&sr=8-2&keywords=htpc

sir.. may nakita po ako... very nice din.. and priced nicely.. sa us.. amazon.. hehe dati ko pa ito sinisilip silip e.. hehe similar design except.. half height vc lang kasya
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Oct 22, 2012 at 11:59 AM
http://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Aluminum-Steel-Center-ML03B/dp/B004GGUAUE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350877835&sr=8-2&keywords=htpc

sir.. may nakita po ako... very nice din.. and priced nicely.. sa us.. amazon.. hehe dati ko pa ito sinisilip silip e.. hehe similar design except.. half height vc lang kasya

mukhang ok nga din kaya lang hirap magpaship nyan kasi bulky
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 23, 2012 at 07:29 AM
mga sir hihingi sana ako ng tulong.

first time ko magbubuo ng HTPC at 2 days na ako nagbabasa pero dami pa din malabo.

eto requirements ko:

•   Can Play 1080p or if mahal kahit 720 upscale
•   Can play not-so-heavy-games
•   Low Power Consumption
•   With HDMI
•   With USB 3.0
•   With pleasing personality
•   Will be used as a torrent rig
•   Optical Out for Audio

Nag try ako mag lista ng parts pero parang hindi ko alam ginagawa ko :(
Working budget is only 11k.

Baka matulungan nyo ko sa htpc setup ko sir tulong naman sa mga combination ng parts.

thanks!


try mo ung set ko

amd a6 ( tri core/65w + built in GPU)
4gb corsair 1600mhz
Asrock Pro 4-M
HD - your choice
Gigabyte 80plus PSU
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Oct 26, 2012 at 07:54 AM
try this sir :
processor:i3-2100 or i3-2120
motherboard:ASRock B75M-ITX Mini ITX
hdd: your choice..
video card- built in or you can buy seperate one
Ram- 4gb corsair vengeance
casing-Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced- w/ usb 3.0 front
power supply- 450w or 500w depends on video card you want to use -choose branded one like ocz,corsair,seasonic,thermaltake but if you have budget go for modular less cables..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Oct 26, 2012 at 08:39 AM
try this sir :
processor:i3-2100 or i3-2120
motherboard:ASRock B75M-ITX Mini ITX
hdd: your choice..
video card- built in or you can buy seperate one
Ram- 4gb corsair vengeance
casing-Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced- w/ usb 3.0 front
power supply- 450w or 500w depends on video card you want to use -choose branded one like ocz,corsair,seasonic,thermaltake but if you have budget go for modular less cables..

The i3-3220 might be worth the 500 peso extra. The HD 2500 IGP handles video better than the HD 2000 IGP, and offers a 10W lower TDP.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Frankthetank on Oct 26, 2012 at 08:46 AM
mga sir hihingi sana ako ng tulong.

first time ko magbubuo ng HTPC at 2 days na ako nagbabasa pero dami pa din malabo.

eto requirements ko:

•   Can Play 1080p or if mahal kahit 720 upscale
•   Can play not-so-heavy-games
•   Low Power Consumption
•   With HDMI
•   With USB 3.0
•   With pleasing personality
•   Will be used as a torrent rig
•   Optical Out for Audio

Nag try ako mag lista ng parts pero parang hindi ko alam ginagawa ko :(
Working budget is only 11k.

Baka matulungan nyo ko sa htpc setup ko sir tulong naman sa mga combination ng parts.

thanks!


Nice, mag HTPC ka na rin pala sir ah....

for me mas maganda ang PQ ng HTPC compared sa NMT...

gamit ko lang yung luma kong pc, I converted it to HTPC.. Kahit C2d lang smooth ang splash pro with eye candy  almost maxed out:

intel c2d e8400 3.06ghz
asrock 1366 d667
4GB ram
nvidia gt630 1gb
FSP 550w PSU

luma na etong setup ko... di ako aware sa mga bago...

but I think okay yung mga build suggestions nila...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Oct 28, 2012 at 08:05 AM
Gudam..question lang po...maganda na po if i use a built in video for viewing 1080p movies...or better pa rin seperate?kasi kung ok naman po yun built in ill go for built in..thx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Oct 28, 2012 at 08:27 AM
Gudam..question lang po...maganda na po if i use a built in video for viewing 1080p movies...or better pa rin seperate?kasi kung ok naman po yun built in ill go for built in..thx

That really depends on your priorities, the hardware that you have, and the software that you'd be running.

If you're building new, most current IGPs can handle 1080p video just fine (as long as the codec cooperates). 2D is particularly easy, even for entry level desktops or notebooks. 3D works better with a midlevel IGP (or higher) in most cases.

Dedicated graphics can help if you want to do a lot of post-processing (or want to use a more demanding algorithm with the help of tools like MadVR). An older computer with a weaker graphics capability will also benefit from an upgrade to modern dedicated graphics.

Higher model integrated graphics is more or less at par with entry level dedicated graphics at this point. It's really your decision as to what you'd choose.

Though this is not representative of video playback, this tells us how much integrated graphics had moved forward (especially for the AMD camp):
(http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/38/IMG0038924.png)

Here the A10's IGP performs as well as a dedicated GT 640 or a dedicated HD 6670, and is well ahead of the GT 630, GT 620 and HD 6450.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Oct 28, 2012 at 09:00 AM
ahh thank you again for the info sir...sir may i ask do you use splash pro?i just wonder if the motion2 ultra 1080 is also the same in motion2 in playback options..thx again
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Oct 28, 2012 at 09:33 AM
For the average HTPC user, here's a rough guideline for builds:

Intel Integrated Graphics
HD Graphics - Good for basic 2D with minimal driver-based post-processing
HD 2000 / HD 2500 - Great for 2D / 3D with minimal driver-based post-processing
HD 3000 / HD 4000 - Excellent for 2D / 3D with some post-processing

AMD Graphics (Integrated and Dedicated)
HD 64xx / HD 74xx - Good for 2D / 3D with minimal post-processing
HD 65xx / HD 75xx - Excellent for 2D / 3D with some post-processing
HD 66xx / HD 76xx - Excellent for 2D / 3D with extensive driver-based post-processing
HD 67xx / HD 77xx - Excellent for 2D / 3D with full driver-based post-processing
HD 68xx / HD 78xx - Great for 2D / 3D with third party post-processing using high quality algorithms
HD 69xx / HD 79xx - Excellent for 2D / 3D with third party post-processing using demanding algorithms

The HD 7660D is the most powerful integrated adapter in the consumer market at this point. It should be enough for most HTPC applications. Those that need more power would have to go with dedicated solutions for now. That being said, the HD 7750 and the HD 7770 are priced very attractively.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Oct 28, 2012 at 09:44 AM
ahh thank you again for the info sir...sir may i ask do you use splash pro?i just wonder if the motion2 ultra 1080 is also the same in motion2 in playback options..thx again

Sorry, I don't use Splash Pro. I don't think they're the same. Motion 2 Ultra is supposedly a higher quality mode that's recommended for use with more powerful CPUs (originally intended for quad-core models).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Oct 28, 2012 at 09:56 AM
ok thank you again sir...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 31, 2012 at 05:33 AM
meron ba htpc casing na pwede i-move yung laptop parts?
like lian li meron sila for xbox :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Oct 31, 2012 at 06:11 AM
meron ba htpc casing na pwede i-move yung laptop parts?
like lian li meron sila for xbox :D

Baka custom na yan, Master Jamy. Proprietary kasi layout ng mga board nyan usually.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 31, 2012 at 06:46 AM
Baka custom na yan, Master Jamy. Proprietary kasi layout ng mga board nyan usually.
yun nga naisip ko bro ivanessa :)
oh well it was worth a shot  :D
benta ko na nga lang tapos bili desktop ;D (kulamin ba ang sarili :P)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Oct 31, 2012 at 07:25 AM
benta ko na nga lang tapos bili desktop ;D (kulamin ba ang sarili :P)

Automatic naman sayo ang bili ng high end na gamit pag may sukli sa pagacquire mo ng megacorporations. Ikaw lang nga ang kilala ko na tumatanggi sa discounts eh.  :o  8)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Oct 31, 2012 at 10:51 AM
sir.. stagea.. paano po ang post processing?
would like to try it..
software po ba yan?
can you suggest softwares i can use? thankyou
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Oct 31, 2012 at 02:55 PM
yun nga naisip ko bro ivanessa :)
oh well it was worth a shot  :D
benta ko na nga lang tapos bili desktop ;D (kulamin ba ang sarili :P)

What happen bro bat mag HTPC setup ka na naman na desktop?  >:D >:D >:D

Ako naman benta ko current setup ko then isip kung HTPC na ITX or NMT na egreat R900 with bluray player na.  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jhelenz on Nov 01, 2012 at 08:04 AM
so i decided to use my old desktop pc as htpc.sobrang entry level nga lang due to tight budget.

proc:pentium duo core 1.8gh
mobo:asrock g31mv-s2
video card:invidia ge force 210 manli
ram:2 gb
psu:gigabyte 570
storage:1 tb for program files and media files
display:lg 32" 720p
using windows 7 ultimate

i have some questions though:
1.can i use latest programs like xbmc eden,splashplro ex or power dvd 12 with my set up without problems (like stuttering,hanging,etc?) or should i like for older versions?
2.how many hours is the ideal time to leave it on (coz one reason i decided to switch from nmt is im also going to use my set up to dl movies)
3.ilang int hdd po yung puede ko idagdag sa set up ko?
4.mag iimprove po ba yung performance ng pc if i update yung mobo and vc drivers?or should i stick na lang dun sa original driver?
5.what future upgrade should i consider if ever na magka budget ako?thanks in advance my sirs
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 01, 2012 at 08:19 AM
so i decided to use my old desktop pc as htpc.sobrang entry level nga lang due to tight budget.

proc:pentium duo core 1.8gh
mobo:asrock g31mv-s2
video card:invidia ge force 210 manli
ram:2 gb
psu:gigabyte 570
storage:1 tb for program files and media files
display:lg 32" 720p
using windows 7 ultimate

i have some questions though:
1.can i use latest programs like xbmc eden,splashplro ex or power dvd 12 with my set up without problems (like stuttering,hanging,etc?) or should i like for older versions?
2.how many hours is the ideal time to leave it on (coz one reason i decided to switch from nmt is im also going to use my set up to dl movies)
3.ilang int hdd po yung puede ko idagdag sa set up ko?
4.mag iimprove po ba yung performance ng pc if i update yung mobo and vc drivers?or should i stick na lang dun sa original driver?
5.what future upgrade should i consider if ever na magka budget ako?thanks in advance my sirs

Sobrang taas sa kuryente niyan lalo na naka open 24/7. Gawin mo upgrade mo na lang sa new mobo and processor new processor now has a powerful built in GPU like AMD A series or intel core i3.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jhelenz on Nov 01, 2012 at 08:33 AM
Sobrang taas sa kuryente niyan lalo na naka open 24/7. Gawin mo upgrade mo na lang sa new mobo and processor new processor now has a powerful built in GPU like AMD A series or intel core i3.  >:D >:D
ok sir,will take it into consideration.kakabili ko lang kasi nung mga parts.bale kasi galing sya sa sister ko binigay lang yung desktop sa akin kasi sira na.hayun yung processor saka ram na lang natira sa original build kasi unti unti ko pinalitan yung sirang parts.
can i leave ti on 24/7?di bibigay yung psu?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 01, 2012 at 08:37 AM
ok sir,will take it into consideration.kakabili ko lang kasi nung mga parts.bale kasi galing sya sa sister ko binigay lang yung desktop sa akin kasi sira na.hayun yung processor saka ram na lang natira sa original build kasi unti unti ko pinalitan yung sirang parts.
can i leave ti on 24/7?di bibigay yung psu?

Yes dpende siguro sa power current sa inyo sa akin kasi may torrent rig ako bukas 24/7 minsan namamatay pero madalang 2 years old na din yun with generic PSU.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 01, 2012 at 11:03 PM
What happen bro bat mag HTPC setup ka na naman na desktop?  >:D >:D >:D

Ako naman benta ko current setup ko then isip kung HTPC na ITX or NMT na egreat R900 with bluray player na.  >:D >:D >:D
tamang kulam lang sa sarili ;D
seriously though, di ko na gusto yung itsura nung laptop sa ilalim ng receiver ko, lagi kasi bukas LCD nya while watching ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 01, 2012 at 11:18 PM
tamang kulam lang sa sarili ;D
seriously though, di ko na gusto yung itsura nung laptop sa ilalim ng receiver ko, lagi kasi bukas LCD nya while watching ;D

Anong build gagawin mo intel or amd? Ako plan ko mag upgrade to trinity itx.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 02, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Anong build gagawin mo intel or amd? Ako plan ko mag upgrade to trinity itx.  >:D >:D
actually specs ng laptop ko is i3 2.5ghz with 6470 or 6570 na ATi with 8gb ram, pwede maski pareho lang nito :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 03, 2012 at 04:03 AM
actually specs ng laptop ko is i3 2.5ghz with 6470 or 6570 na ATi with 8gb ram, pwede maski pareho lang nito :D
wait mo na lang trinity.pag buo ko ulit ng htpc baka yan din ang way ko
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 03, 2012 at 06:33 AM
Anong build gagawin mo intel or amd? Ako plan ko mag upgrade to trinity itx.  >:D >:D

gising kana? nagiisip ng specs ng htpc? haha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 03, 2012 at 08:33 AM
actually specs ng laptop ko is i3 2.5ghz with 6470 or 6570 na ATi with 8gb ram, pwede maski pareho lang nito :D

mag FM1 OR FM2 na lang na amd lalo na yung A10 5700 with 6550 na ATI.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 03, 2012 at 10:00 AM
i3-3220 + 7750 buoin nyo!  >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Nov 03, 2012 at 11:28 AM
+1 ako din pro intel sa ngayon.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Nov 03, 2012 at 05:38 PM
Gudpm po...meron pa po bang ibang fm2 itx bukod sa asrock..thx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 04, 2012 at 06:50 AM
i3-3220 + 7750 buoin nyo!  >:D

I will never get this setup. Taas taas sa kuryente niyan mag AMD A10 na lang ako with IGP 7660.

Performance of the IGP

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/3D11G.png)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/3DVG.png)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Batman9G.png)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Batman11G.png)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/DirtG.png)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Luxmark.png)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Power1G.png)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Power2G.png)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Power3G.png)

If hd viewing lang naman why get a discrete video card if 7xxx series is already available in amd trinity with less power consumption.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 04, 2012 at 07:04 AM
fanboy? >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 04, 2012 at 07:39 AM
fanboy? >:D >:D >:D

Ako fan boy? Ang fan boy alam ko forever na un ang setup. Una AMD then nag Intel then going back to AMD ulet balik loob ako.  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jhelenz on Nov 04, 2012 at 09:48 AM
mga sirs patulong naman paano ko kaya iset up yung htpc ko,isa lang kasi display ko.ang gusto ko kasi mangyari i output ko yung display either via vga or hdmi sa isang source lang (lg 32 in)di ko sya kasi ma set up ng maayos eh.when i select vga dun sa tv ko yung microsoft logo lang nakikita ko wala yung mga shortcuts etc.kailangan ko pa tangalin yung hdmi cable na naka connect sa htpc para lumabas yung mga shortcuts etc.btw my videocard is nvidia gt210.thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 04, 2012 at 09:54 AM
mga sirs patulong naman paano ko kaya iset up yung htpc ko,isa lang kasi display ko.ang gusto ko kasi mangyari i output ko yung display either via vga or hdmi sa isang source lang (lg 32 in)di ko sya kasi ma set up ng maayos eh.when i select vga dun sa tv ko yung microsoft logo lang nakikita ko wala yung mga shortcuts etc.kailangan ko pa tangalin yung hdmi cable na naka connect sa htpc para lumabas yung mga shortcuts etc.btw my videocard is nvidia gt210.thanks

Mukhang naka extended display ka try mo sa properties gawin na duplicate display.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 04, 2012 at 09:58 AM
hahaha... joks sabi nya nung nakaraan ayaw nya amd...ok daw sa kuryente mga intel....
ok naman talaga pero if you add dedicated videocard...tataas na
ung dedicated nung amd + ati na a10...superb hihihi for 3d
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 04, 2012 at 10:06 AM

If hd viewing lang naman why get a discrete video card if 7xxx series is already available in amd trinity with less power consumption.

same lang power draw/ consumption ng AMD APU at Intel i3 + discrete:

Sample Setups: (ITX Build)

AMD Build:

AMD A8-3850 2.9Ghz (Radeon HD 6550D)
1 stick DDR3
1 SSD
1 Green HDD
1 Blu-Ray combo drive

PSU Calculator Result:

Minimum PSU Wattage:   144 W
Recommended PSU Wattage: 194W

Intel Build:

Intel Core i3-3220 3.3Ghz (55W TDP)
1 stick DDR3
AMD HD 7750 1GB GDDR5
1 SSD
1 Green HDD
1 Blu-Ray combo drive

PSU Calculator Result: (est using i3-2120 3.3Ghz 65W TDP, i3-3220 is 55W TDP, so less 10W draw)

Minimum PSU Wattage:   154 W - 10W = 144W
Recommended PSU Wattage: 204W - 10W = 194W

[calculated using PSU calculator: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine ;)]
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 04, 2012 at 10:20 AM
proc to proc
price to price

i7 vs a10   both using bulit in GPU
3d


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 04, 2012 at 10:24 AM
same lang power draw/ consumption ng AMD APU at Intel i3 + discrete:

Sample Setups: (ITX Build)

AMD Build:

AMD A8-3850 2.9Ghz (Radeon HD 6550D)
1 stick DDR3
1 SSD
1 Green HDD
1 Blu-Ray combo drive

PSU Calculator Result:

Minimum PSU Wattage:   144 W
Recommended PSU Wattage: 194W

Intel Build:

Intel Core i3-3220 3.3Ghz (55W TDP)
1 stick DDR3
AMD HD 7750 1GB GDDR5
1 SSD
1 Green HDD
1 Blu-Ray combo drive

PSU Calculator Result: (est using i3-2120 3.3Ghz 65W TDP, i3-3220 is 55W TDP, so less 10W draw)

Minimum PSU Wattage:   154 W - 10W = 144W
Recommended PSU Wattage: 204W - 10W = 194W

[calculated using PSU calculator: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine ;)]

Have you tested your self? raider125jeigh tested his HTPC A6 with HD6430 ang the max load is 40watts with watt meter i believe that is a tri core already of amd. One more AMD A10 is quadcore already compare to core duo of i3 this is useful for the motion interpolation of splash pro. AMD A10 with HD 7660 has a 65 watts quad core compare to a 65 watts i3 core duo with discrete video card as you can see on the below review they use both IGP core i3 with HD400 and AMD A10 HD7660 i3 got 65 watts and A10 got 76 watts the do the math add the power consumption of the discrete card i believe it will to 100 watts.

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Power3G.png)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Power2G.png)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Power1G.png)

proc to proc
price to price

i7 vs a10   both using bulit in GPU
3d




A10 wins kailangan pa ba imemorize yan may graph na nga.  ^-^ ^-^

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Batman9G.png)

You can shared up to 2GB of memory on the IGP HD7660.

Quote
Audio, Video and Networking
Graphics   - AMD Radeon HD 7000 series graphics
- DirectX 11, Pixel Shader 5.0
- Max. shared memory 2GB
- Dual VGA Output: support HDMI and D-Sub ports by independent display controllers
- Supports HDMI 1.4a Technology with max. resolution up to 1920x1200 @ 60Hz
- Supports D-Sub with max. resolution up to 1920x1600 @ 60Hz
- Supports Auto Lip Sync, Deep Color (12bpc), xvYCC and HBR (High Bit Rate Audio) with HDMI (Compliant HDMI monitor is required)
- Supports Blu-ray Stereoscopic 3D with HDMI 1.4a
- Supports AMD Steady Video™ 2.0: New video post processing capability for automatic jutter reduction on home/online video
- Supports HDCP function with HDMI port
- Supports Full HD 1080p Blu-ray (BD) / HD-DVD playback with HDMI port
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 04, 2012 at 12:18 PM
newbie lang ako sa htpc

basta whatever you prefered guys...
AMD fan boy kasi ako and amd sucks for the past years

ung a10 lang lately ung feeling kong big improvement
price and performance
compare to i7 na sobrang mahal

mahilig kasi ako sa mga Mura hehe..pero iba pa din ung builtin compare sa dedicated na mataas na specs...

basta dun ako sa matipid for the meantime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLVrumedUOQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ljYjQWCIsE
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 04, 2012 at 12:20 PM
newbie lang ako sa htpc

basta whatever you prefered guys...
AMD fan boy kasi ako and amd sucks for the past years

ung a10 lang lately ung feeling kong big improvement
price and performance
compare to i7 na sobrang mahal

mahilig kasi ako sa mga Mura hehe..pero iba pa din ung builtin compare sa dedicated na mataas na specs...

basta dun ako sa matipid for the meantime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLVrumedUOQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ljYjQWCIsE


Laptop na lang gamitin mo... Para tipid sa kuryente
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 04, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Laptop na lang gamitin mo... Para tipid sa kuryente
parehas lang ung laptop and htpc consumption
hindi ko naman masyado ginagmit ung htpc
sa mga fast action movie lang
splash pro hehe...
ung measy x6 pa din gamit ko...mas madali gamitin for me..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 04, 2012 at 12:27 PM
parehas lang ung laptop and htpc consumption

Lalo na yung trinity ng AMD power efficient na kasi si master jammy nga balik loob sa HTPC.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 04, 2012 at 12:58 PM
parehas lang ung laptop and htpc consumption
hindi ko naman masyado ginagmit ung htpc
sa mga fast action movie lang
splash pro hehe...
ung measy x6 pa din gamit ko...mas madali gamitin for me..


Mas makakatipid ka sa laptop... Wag mo saksak sa kuryente pag nanonood ka ha ha ha....piliin mo lang yung laptop na may magandang battery ha ha ha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 04, 2012 at 01:05 PM
Mas makakatipid ka sa laptop... Wag mo saksak sa kuryente pag nanonood ka ha ha ha....piliin mo lang yung laptop na may magandang battery ha ha ha
hahaha.... gusto ko to...ung battery gawa ng stark industries nyahahaha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 04, 2012 at 01:34 PM
hahaha.... gusto ko to...ung battery gawa ng stark industries nyahahaha


Yun baka lumilipad pa yan wahaha..  >:D

AMD Trinity A10-5800K Piledriver APU vs Intel Core i3 Ivy Bridge - HotHardware

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcA9W1xb0Cs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcA9W1xb0Cs)

WTF Battle Field 3 with HD7660 of A10 5800k.  >:D >:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijRbNnSuqxc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijRbNnSuqxc&feature=related)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 04, 2012 at 03:19 PM
Mas makakatipid ka sa laptop... Wag mo saksak sa kuryente pag nanonood ka ha ha ha....piliin mo lang yung laptop na may magandang battery ha ha ha
nag aalala sa kuryente pero mga gears....tsk tsk..
gusto nyo ng matipid mag mp4 kayo tapos 486 build
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 04, 2012 at 03:25 PM
nag aalala sa kuryente pero mga gears....tsk tsk..
gusto nyo ng matipid mag mp4 kayo tapos 486 build

Puwede may tama ka na naman sis joko.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 04, 2012 at 03:29 PM
Puwede may tama ka na naman sis joko.  >:D >:D
kakagising lang eh ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 04, 2012 at 03:31 PM
Yun baka lumilipad pa yan wahaha..  >:D

AMD Trinity A10-5800K Piledriver APU vs Intel Core i3 Ivy Bridge - HotHardware

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcA9W1xb0Cs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcA9W1xb0Cs)

WTF Battle Field 3 with HD7660 of A10 5800k.  >:D >:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijRbNnSuqxc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijRbNnSuqxc&feature=related)

luge intel dyan
dapat mga i5 or i7
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 04, 2012 at 03:36 PM
luge intel dyan
dapat mga i5 or i7

Pero check mo yung sa post ko thread ni louie. Panalo sa battlefield 3 na games kahit ung IGP lang.  >:D >:D

AMD Trinity A10-5800K vs INTEL core i5 3550 gaming benchmarks + overclocking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLVrumedUOQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLVrumedUOQ)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Nov 04, 2012 at 03:46 PM
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=X79%20Extreme9

(http://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/X79%20Extreme9.jpg)

how about this? eto binigay sa akin na mother board?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Nov 04, 2012 at 03:56 PM
@DTNS...sir i think you disregard the power consumption of the 7750..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 04, 2012 at 04:00 PM
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=X79%20Extreme9

(http://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/X79%20Extreme9.jpg)

how about this? eto binigay sa akin na mother board?

Ayaw ko nyan masyado malaki need ko MATX or ITX board para maliit lang ang case. Need mo jan full atx na case sobra laki nun di ka naman magagamit lahat yang pci-e niya. Just get what you need IMHO.

Eto mga mobo na pang HTPC.  >:D >:D

Now it give me idea again to go matx with 7 sata FTW.  >:D >:D

(http://www.techhum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/FM2A85X-Extreme4-M.jpg)

(http://overclockers.co.uk/pimg/MB-102-AK_400.jpg)

@DTNS...sir i think you disregard the power consumption of the 7750..

+1
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Nov 04, 2012 at 04:03 PM
anong ok na keyboard n mouse for htpc? yung backlit thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Nov 04, 2012 at 04:04 PM
Ayaw ko nyan masyado malaki need ko MATX or ITX board para maliit lang ang case. Need mo jan full atx na case sobra laki nun di ka naman magagamit lahat yang pci-e niya. Just get what you need IMHO.

Eto mga mobo na pang HTPC.  >:D >:D
(http://www.techhum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/FM2A85X-Extreme4-M.jpg)

(http://overclockers.co.uk/pimg/MB-102-AK_400.jpg)

+1

yung full specs na binigay sa akin ng isang shop dito ei....umabot ng BD500 or Pesos 55K...

aaaawww sabi ko sa sarili sobra yun...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 04, 2012 at 04:07 PM
Baka naman kasi naka setup na yan ready to use. Check mo yung mga kasama baka naman kasi mahal lang talaga ang setup ng pc jan. Like yung post ni brader darwin na i7 ang mahal. Kung HTPC mo lang gagamitin yan think of the smaller build not a full atx.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rukawakaide1721 on Nov 04, 2012 at 04:15 PM
Baka naman kasi naka setup na yan ready to use. Check mo yung mga kasama baka naman kasi mahal lang talaga ang setup ng pc jan. Like yung post ni brader darwin na i7 ang mahal. Kung HTPC mo lang gagamitin yan think of the smaller build not a full atx.  >:D >:D


hanapin ko ang quotation na binigay sa akin....try kong i post....

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 04, 2012 at 04:47 PM
Mukhang mag atx case for more room of HDD.  >:D >:D

SilverStone HTPC Desktop Chassis Lascala 10 (LC10B-E)

(http://www.conrad.de/medias/global/ce/8000_8999/8700/8710/8716/871699_BB_00_FB.EPS_1000.jpg)

(http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/products/lc10-e/LC10-E-01.jpg)

or

SilverStone HTPC Desktop Chassis Lascala 13 (LC13B-E)

(http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/148/images/Silverstone/Image_06S.jpg)

(http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/148/images/Silverstone/Image_02S.jpg)

 O0 O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 04, 2012 at 05:32 PM
nag aalala sa kuryente pero mga gears....tsk tsk..
gusto nyo ng matipid mag mp4 kayo tapos 486 build

Si derick yun ha ha ha...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 04, 2012 at 06:09 PM
Si derick yun ha ha ha...
hindi ako yan...sa matipid lang ako na gears... lol
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 04, 2012 at 06:43 PM
Derick pang matx yung case mo di ba?  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 04, 2012 at 07:40 PM
Derick pang matx yung case mo di ba?  >:D >:D

yup
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jhelenz on Nov 05, 2012 at 08:13 AM
Mukhang naka extended display ka try mo sa properties gawin na duplicate display.
ok na bro na set ko na ng maayos,thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 05, 2012 at 08:22 AM
ok na bro na set ko na ng maayos,thanks

Ayus enjoy your movie marathon.  >:D >:D

Cool innovative feature from asus mobo for AMD.

Quote
Remote GO!

One-stop PC Remote Control and Home Entertainment
Remote GO! links PCs, tablets, smartphones and TVs wirelessly together through an existing LAN cable and router setup. It allows users to stream multimedia content from PC to DLNA devices, access their computer anywhere using their mobile device at home, while also allowing easy file transfers between your computer and mobile device. It provides seamless environment for a futuristic connected lifestyle with three useful functions: DLNA Media Hub, Remote Desktop and File Transfer.

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/asusrtg.png)

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/asusrtg1.png)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Nov 05, 2012 at 10:58 AM
may free app po ba sa ipad for pc controlling? :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 05, 2012 at 11:00 AM
may free app po ba sa ipad for pc controlling? :D

Yes but that is for amd platform only. Kasi amd mobo FM2 lang ang meron niyan AFAIK.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 08, 2012 at 06:25 AM
Yes but that is for amd platform only. Kasi amd mobo FM2 lang ang meron niyan AFAIK.  >:D >:D

As much as I like Trinity/FM2 for HTPC use, Asus boards for Intel processors with WiFi Go! also support the same features.

These functions can also be done with third party software, of course.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 08, 2012 at 07:00 AM
As much as I like Trinity/FM2 for HTPC use, Asus boards for Intel processors with WiFi Go! also support the same features.

These functions can also be done with third party software, of course.

I just check asus site since on the asus intel board locally available does not support the Remote GO yes they also support such features but downside you need to purchase a pricey mobo of asus for intel with wifi capability not like the AMd you don't need a wifi capable board to have these features. Their entry level mobo for FM2 already has this feature which is Asus F2A85-M and asus entry level board thus not have this feature. Regarding third party yes you can but what i'm talking about is the built in when you purchase the board it's already there and on th iGPU HD7000 beat the HD4000 of intel. Why will i get a third party software when in fact i can buy a mobo with powerful built in iGPU with remote GO in one.  Pricey processor if you go quadcore also. >:D >:D >:D

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/asus.png)

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/asus1.png)

Youtube actual gaming experience with BF3 on HD7000 of trinity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijRbNnSuqxc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijRbNnSuqxc&feature=related)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 08, 2012 at 10:12 AM
I agree that AMD currently offers a more balanced HTPC solution at a lower price point with the Trinity processors. The Fusion APUs had always been focused on delivering this by integrating "discrete-class" graphics into the die.

I have high hopes for the Kabini SoC for low power HTPCs. It's supposed to be on track for a 1H 2013 release. A4 / A6 class performance may be within reach at a very low power envelope.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Nov 08, 2012 at 02:07 PM
hope that more fm2 itx boards come locally :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 08, 2012 at 02:17 PM
sarap mag a10...magkano ko nalang kaya mabebenta ung a6 2months use haha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: elim on Nov 08, 2012 at 05:49 PM
noob question. Is it ok to place the CPU sideways. Nakahiga instead of its usual vertical position?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Nov 08, 2012 at 06:51 PM
noob question. Is it ok to place the CPU sideways. Nakahiga instead of its usual vertical position?

actually mas ok kasi mawawala ung uneven tension sa motherboard from the weight of the cpu heatsink 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 09, 2012 at 02:06 AM
Newbie question...

What features in a mother board should I be looking for in a new htpc that can also be used for gaming?
What about the video card?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 09, 2012 at 03:49 AM
hope that more fm2 itx boards come locally :)

I hope so too. One thing to consider when building an SFF FM1/FM2 PC is the fact that AMD's cooling solution is taller than Intel's. Some very tight casings could not accommodate the height of AMD's stock cooler, which may necessitate the use of a slimline third party cooling solution.

What features in a mother board should I be looking for in a new htpc that can also be used for gaming?
What about the video card?

That really depends on your budget, form factor consideration and expectations.

A competitive benchmarker and/or those who would only want to play at the highest detail settings will need a high end build, for example.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 09, 2012 at 07:40 AM
Is there a site that you can recommend that teaches how to build a modern htpc?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: TinkerTailor on Nov 09, 2012 at 09:05 AM
^ Ito sir magandang site para sa htpc:

http://www.missingremote.com/ (http://www.missingremote.com/)

Look up the guides.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 09, 2012 at 12:38 PM
If you like a server type HTPC case consider the (http://Silverstone Tek GD07B Aluminum Extended ATX) with 11 drives slot 3TBx11 = 33TB. I'm planning to get this case put 1 bluray drive and 1 hot swap HDD.  >:D >:D >:D >:D

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/558804_2559200596405_724609677_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Nov 09, 2012 at 12:59 PM
If you like a server type HTPC case consider the (http://Silverstone Tek GD07B Aluminum Extended ATX) with 11 drives slot 3TBx11 = 33TB. I'm planning to get this case put 1 bluray drive and 1 hot swap HDD.  >:D >:D >:D >:D

(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/558804_2559200596405_724609677_n.jpg)

i like, available na ba locally?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 09, 2012 at 01:13 PM
i like, available na ba locally?

No i will purchase at amazon.  >:D >:D >:D >:D

Baka mahal ang case na yan pag lapag dito ung iba nga parang 7k+.  ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 10, 2012 at 08:18 AM
Can htpcs be turned on and off remotely? That's one of my considerations whether to build an htpc or just get a streamer like popcorn hour.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 10, 2012 at 08:20 AM
What's so special about f2 boards and why do you recommend them for htpc setups?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 10, 2012 at 08:51 AM
Can htpcs be turned on and off remotely? That's one of my considerations whether to build an htpc or just get a streamer like popcorn hour.

You can set up Wake-on-LAN for this purpose. Your router can be configured to receive requests from the internet, which should make this possible. Some networking knowledge is required to set this up.

What's so special about f2 boards and why do you recommend them for htpc setups?

The FM2 boards don't have much to them, but the Trinity APUs that slot into them have excellent video capability. When properly set, image quality can get pretty close to the best that you can get in the consumer space (and this is without spending big bucks on high end hardware).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:28 AM
Someone recommended to me the amd a10 processor. How's the cooling solution for this? I would really want a quiet setup for my media room.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:30 AM
Someone recommended to me the amd a10 processor. How's the cooling solution for this? I would really want a quiet setup for my media room.
hihihi...ok yan....kahit stock fan hindi ata mainit yan...

anyone who can prove it? a6 lang kasi gamit ko
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: elim on Nov 10, 2012 at 10:37 AM
actually mas ok kasi mawawala ung uneven tension sa motherboard from the weight of the cpu heatsink 

got it. thanks for the help. lalagay ko kasi sana sa bottom shelf of my rack to save space but was hesitant. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 10, 2012 at 12:23 PM
which stores sell htpc cases? I prefer a quiet and small form factor.  itx ba yun? also quiet sana.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Nov 10, 2012 at 12:40 PM
which stores sell htpc cases? I prefer a quiet and small form factor.  itx ba yun? also quiet sana.

pchub at pc options
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 10, 2012 at 01:53 PM
you can also buy Silverstone htpc cases (for matx mobo) at Octagon Computer stores. they're expensive though.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 10, 2012 at 06:39 PM
What are the advatages of htpc over streamers like measy?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: link3r on Nov 10, 2012 at 06:50 PM
What are the advatages of htpc over streamers like measy?

Customization.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:08 PM
May scrapers na rin naman ang mga streamers di ba?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:38 PM
Ive been reading through the thread and splash pro is being mentioned a lot. Whats so special about it!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:39 PM
Ive been reading through the thread and splash pro is being mentioned a lot. Whats so special about it!
hihihi....it is special
60fps - depends on you brader...
ultra motion is special with it gpu accelaration
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:54 PM
What are the advatages of htpc over streamers like measy?

Advantage
- HTPC cases like silverstone can accommodate many hdd Silverstone Tek GD07B Aluminum 4x5.25 slot and 7x3.5 slot. Less cluter on your HT room. 3TBx10 = 30TB.  >:D >:D >:D
- You can customize the media library with xmbc with extenal player like splash pro or power dvd for iso 3d bluray.
- You can put a bluray writer/rom for multi region bluray player.

May scrapers na rin naman ang mga streamers di ba?

May scraper pero i think hindi siya auto na kumukuha sa internet upon open mo ng streamers sa HTPC XMBC kasi one na naka set na auto update and may nilagay ka na new movie auto niya na lalagyan ng info yun. Sa tingin ko din mas maganda ang media library ng HTPC.

(http://xbmc.org/wp-content/gallery/aeon/aeon_home_watchmen.jpg)

(http://xbmc.org/wp-content/gallery/aeon/aeon_movieshowcase.jpg)

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4221/screenshot000n.jpg)

With classification if bluray, dvd or other format.  ^-^ ^-^
(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/2781/xbmc1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 10, 2012 at 11:12 PM
hihihi....it is special
60fps - depends on you brader...
ultra motion is special with it gpu accelaration

Whats so special about 60fps? Does it improve picture quality?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 10, 2012 at 11:50 PM
Whats so special about 60fps? Does it improve picture quality?

For fast scene no blur.   ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 10, 2012 at 11:55 PM
For fast scene no blur.   ^-^ ^-^

Di rin siguro noticeable unless side by side comparison.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 11, 2012 at 12:00 AM
Di rin siguro noticeable unless side by side comparison.
kung sanay ka sa 720 hindi mo mononotice
pero sa mga malalaking screen 40inch to 120inch e may pagkakaiba
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 12:46 AM
kung sanay ka sa 720 hindi mo mononotice
pero sa mga malalaking screen 40inch to 120inch e may pagkakaiba

+1

120 inch...  O0 O0 >:D >:D

Di rin siguro noticeable unless side by side comparison.

Test mo muna yung mga 1080p na remux.  ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 11, 2012 at 03:37 AM
Someone recommended to me the amd a10 processor. How's the cooling solution for this? I would really want a quiet setup for my media room.

If you have a poorly ventilated case, the stock cooling solution can produce some racket as the fan speeds ramp up during heavy demands (especially if you're putting the box in a poorly ventilated shelf or something similar). The stock solution is reasonably quiet in an average desktop case and an air conditioned room. The 65W units are quieter than the 100W models.

If you're quite particular with noise, I suggest getting a well-ventilated case (using low noise fans) and a relatively oversized heatsink/fan for the processor (so that you can turn down fan speeds). Undervolting, adjusting the CnQ thresholds, using PWM fans/managing them by software, underclocking, etc. are other steps that you can consider either independently or in conjunction with other items that you'd like to implement.

What are the advatages of htpc over streamers like measy?

Flexibility and image quality. The biggest downside would likely be the cumbersome user I/O.

which stores sell htpc cases? I prefer a quiet and small form factor.  itx ba yun? also quiet sana.

There are quiet small form factor cases, but you have to pick them out. The majority of small form factor cases aren't as quiet as bigger solutions (though you can tweak them to bring noise levels down).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 06:18 AM
What's so special about f2 boards and why do you recommend them for htpc setups?

FM2 like the asus board has a Remote GO which is very useful in my end i can use tablet with android or IOS to remote my desktop. But asus FM2 is not yet release locally but there are seller at tpc and order basis. With this mobo you can assign max of 2gb memory on your iGPU HD7660D of A10.  I also got the A10-5700 proc with 65W TDP but its not available locally. ^-^ ^-^

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/remotego.png)

And also new APU of AMD has a HD7660D video which is powerful enough for your HTPC you can also do mid gaming like BF3 using the HD7660D.  ^-^ ^-^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7RIcrqzgkg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7RIcrqzgkg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:18 AM
Quote
There are quiet small form factor cases, but you have to pick them out. The majority of small form factor cases aren't as quiet as bigger solutions (though you can tweak them to bring noise levels down).

Seems like a lot of work compared to purchasing a proven quiet streamer. The worst that can happen is that you purchase all the parts and find out that you end p with a noisy htpc. Don't you think?

Mas ok ba yung mga hydro cooling solutions? But then again, those are really expensive.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:21 AM
Quote
FM2 like the asus board has a Remote GO which is very useful in my end i can use tablet with android or IOS to remote my desktop. But asus FM2 is not yet release locally but there are seller at tpc and order basis. With this mobo you can assign max of 2gb memory on your iGPU HD7660D of A10.  I also got the A10-5700 proc with 65W TDP but its not available locally. 

Question. I can already remote control my pc with free Teamviewer. Is remote go the same as teamviewer?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:24 AM
Grabe, ngayon ko lang nabalitaan na may APU na pala. Ang galing naman ng AMD.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:34 AM
Seems like a lot of work compared to purchasing a proven quiet streamer. The worst that can happen is that you purchase all the parts and find out that you end p with a noisy htpc. Don't you think?

If the build has been properly planned for, it's unlikely that it's gonna end up wrong. The small form factor's reduced dissipating area and decreased capacity makes it a bit more difficult to build as a quiet solution. However, it is still very doable -- even poorly matched parts can often be remedied.

Mas ok ba yung mga hydro cooling solutions? But then again, those are really expensive.

Water cooling can be quiet, but you do get some mild pump noise in most cases. A slow-spinning air cooler is usually quieter. In a quiet PC, the sound is usually just dominated by HDD noise (unless you remove or encapsulate the HDD).

How quiet do you need the PC to be? do you sit beside the PC?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:36 AM
if you have the budget you can go for liquid cooling...htpc are not noisy it depends on how you build them..mostly noisy lang naman is the fans but mostly fans nowadays are silent...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:41 AM
Gudam...just wanna ask is there any date when the other motherboard manufacturer will launched their itx fm2 mboards?thank you....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:42 AM
I just saw  a youtube video of asus wifi go. Its really the same as vnc and teamviewer. Both have free clients for ios and android. Ad they work with any PC.

I feel it's really another marketing gimmick of asus. There's no reason why it would not work with non-fm2 boards since it should work as long as your pc is connected to the network. They just limited it to fm2 boards to sell more of them.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:43 AM
if you have the budget you can go for liquid cooling...htpc are not noisy it depends on how you build them..mostly noisy lang naman is the fans but mostly fans nowadays are silent...

Yup, media tanks with fans can be quite noisier than properly built and configured PCs.

Gudam...just wanna ask is there any date when the other motherboard manufacturer will launched their itx fm2 mboards?thank you....

Which other? I have only seen the FM2A75M-ITX locally.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:46 AM
Quote
How quiet do you need the PC to be? do you sit beside the PC?

Not really. It will be situated at the front, 11 ft away from my listening position.

I'm sensitive to noise because my current PC is quite audible when i watch movies. It's currently around 6ft from my listening position. But i just use stock pc and atx casing fans.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:47 AM
hmm gigabyte and msi...thx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:51 AM
@javauser...hmm mostly stock fans are noisy...you can replace them with quite ones...or maybe they just need to be clean.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:54 AM
I have a logitech harmony 880, and it's IR based. What IR receiver would you guys recommend so that i can control the htpc through my harmony?

Dami ko tanong... Sorry in advance.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 08:58 AM
Question. I can already remote control my pc with free Teamviewer. Is remote go the same as teamviewer?

Actually teamviewer need additional PC yan sa Remote GO tablet lang. Sa tingin ko mas ok ang Remote GO parng desktop mo nasa tablet mo lang. If i'm not mistaken same lang sila capability.  >:D >:D >:D

Seems like a lot of work compared to purchasing a proven quiet streamer. The worst that can happen is that you purchase all the parts and find out that you end p with a noisy htpc. Don't you think?

Mas ok ba yung mga hydro cooling solutions? But then again, those are really expensive.

It depend sa setup mo and sa HTPC case na bibilhin mo there are quiet fan out there para di maingay.  >:D >:D

Hydro colloling need big space so if you go ITX make sure na may soace for that cooling setup.  ^-^ ^-^

I just saw  a youtube video of asus wifi go. Its really the same as vnc and teamviewer. Both have free clients for ios and android. Ad they work with any PC.

I feel it's really another marketing gimmick of asus. There's no reason why it would not work with non-fm2 boards since it should work as long as your pc is connected to the network. They just limited it to fm2 boards to sell more of them.

But is there any download for the Remote GO? One more thing the FM2 board has a 2GB memory for the iGPU.  ^-^ ^-^

Gudam...just wanna ask is there any date when the other motherboard manufacturer will launched their itx fm2 mboards?thank you....

ASrock and asus is poted at tipidpc but order basis not locally available. So i opted to buy at amazon with the AMD A10-5700 65 watts. Availble AMD A10 locally is 100 watts.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 09:00 AM
ASrock and asus is poted at tipidpc but order basis not locally available. So i opted to buy at amazon with the AMD A10-5700 65 watts. Availble AMD A10 locally is 100 watts.  >:D >:D

Sir xrampage, which model did you buy? Bibili din ako. Idol kita.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 09:02 AM
Actually teamviewer need additional PC yan sa Remote GO tablet lang. Sa tingin ko mas ok ang Remote GO parng desktop mo nasa tablet mo lang. If i'm not mistaken same lang sila capability.  >:D >:D >:D

Sir xrampage, i dont know what you mean by an additional pc is needed. I can already control my windows xp pc running on core duo through teamviewer running on my ipad and s3.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 09:04 AM
Sir xrampage, i dont know what you mean by an additional pc is needed. I can already control my windows xp pc running on core duo through teamviewer running on my ipad and s3.

Ah okay di kasi ako nag teteamviewer puwede na din pala sa android.  ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Nikkie on Nov 11, 2012 at 09:07 AM
Ok ba ang AMD E350 for HTPC purpose?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Nov 11, 2012 at 09:07 AM
^yes! me libreng teamviewer apps para sa ios at android.kahit saan ka man sa lupalop ng mundo kayang ma-control ang remote pc- vice versa.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 09:08 AM
By the way, in my experience, hindi ganun kadalli gamitin yung mga remote desktop clients like vnc and teamviewer over tablet. The reason being is that tablets are touch devices, whereas PCs are mouse driven. Maybe things will change with windows 8. 

I don't use teamviewer to control my htpc. i just use it to download torrents when i'm not home. There's lag also.

Sir xrampage, i suggest you try teamviewer. Remote desktop through tablet may not be as good as you thought it would be for remotely controlling your htpc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Nov 11, 2012 at 09:09 AM
Ok ba ang AMD E350 for HTPC purpose?

swak na swak yan. mas maganda pa PQ pag upgrade ka ng VC- hd 6570 pataas.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Nov 11, 2012 at 09:11 AM
@xtrampage..hmm i really want the a10-5700 and asrock fm2 itx kaso baka di na kayanin ng budget hehe..just aiming for an a6 and a good fm2 itx board...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 09:48 AM
Question regarding htpc cases... aesthetics aside... why not yung standard matx case na lang? ang mahal ng htpc cases.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Nov 11, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Question regarding htpc cases... aesthetics aside... why not yung standard matx case na lang? ang mahal ng htpc cases.

you can use whatever casing suits your eyes sir.
plus factor lang ng itx casing e, miniaturized.
ang downside naman e, di mo ma-maximize ang lahat ng sata connector para sa HDD
where as, ang mATX at ATX casing kahit tadtarin mo ng palaman sa loob, maluwag pa rin  ;D
kaya lang bulky masyado tingnan. ::)

try mo dito: 2.5k lang kasama true PS
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20137817 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20137817)
(http://www.in-win.com.tw/products/pc_case/BQ-Series/bq660_001.jpg)
(http://www.in-win.com.tw/products/pc_case/BQ-Series/bq660_006.jpg)

eto naman: 1.6k lang kasama ng PS
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20229560 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20229560)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/xpc42/IMG_0807.jpg)

kung type mo naman e, component style. try mo ito: 3k w/out PS

http://pcoptionsph.com/product_view.php?sid=155&id=806 (http://pcoptionsph.com/product_view.php?sid=155&id=806)
(http://www.aerocool.us/pgs/images/qx2000/qx-2000_photo-b.jpg)

http://www.aerocool.us/pgs/pgs-q/qx2000.htm (http://www.aerocool.us/pgs/pgs-q/qx2000.htm)


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 11, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Ok ba ang AMD E350 for HTPC purpose?

Doable, but it's a little limited in terms of capability. Standard GPU-decoded formats walang problem as long as walang 3D, but it's not powerful enough to decode high res files in formats that are more processing intensive.

It's safer to target an A4 or a Celeron at the very minimum.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Guys, what do you think about Gigabyte F2A75M D3H FM2 mAtx board? P2,820 lang locally.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4352#sp
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 11, 2012 at 02:07 PM
eto naman: 1.6k lang kasama ng PS
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20229560 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20229560)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/xpc42/IMG_0807.jpg)
This uses the same body as the Thermaltake Element Q. The stock AMD cooler is too tall for this case.

Most entry level and midlevel Intel solutions would fit. This case gets quite warm, especially when fitted with a graphics adapter and decked out with hard drives. I've been able to tweak a couple of Element Q builds to address heat and noise issues.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 02:26 PM
By the way, in my experience, hindi ganun kadalli gamitin yung mga remote desktop clients like vnc and teamviewer over tablet. The reason being is that tablets are touch devices, whereas PCs are mouse driven. Maybe things will change with windows 8. 

I don't use teamviewer to control my htpc. i just use it to download torrents when i'm not home. There's lag also.

Sir xrampage, i suggest you try teamviewer. Remote desktop through tablet may not be as good as you thought it would be for remotely controlling your htpc.

I will use windows with my new HTPC and i already have a promo code for the upgrade of my windows 7 to windows 8.  >:D >:D

I already use logmein for my remote and i already have a utorrent remote so i dont. I only want to use the Remote GO of asus for my HTPC viewing since i don't want to use any HTPC remote anymore.

Sir xrampage, which model did you buy? Bibili din ako. Idol kita.

Here is my HTPC specs that i already got at amazon bitbitin na lang ng friend ko from US next week pag uwi niya.

Proc - AMD A10-5700 65 watts
Board - Asus F2A85-M
Memory - 8gb
HDD - 2TB or 1TB
Case - Silverstone GD07B

(http://pricing27.eclerx.com/Processor/AMD%20A10-5700%20APU%20with%20AMD%20Radeon%20HD%207660D_l.jpg)

(http://www.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ASUS-F2A85-M-uATX-Motherboard.jpg)

(http://http://img.ebyrcdn.net/20837-264750-290.jpg)

(http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/products/gd07/GD07-34View-02.jpg)

4x5.25 bay and 7x3.5 hdd slot.
(http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/products/gd07/GD07-07.jpg)

Kaya ko pinili yang HTPC to have all my collection online without connection a external drive lets say ill put 3TBx10 so i have 30TB all in on my HTPC case.  ^-^ ^-^

Soon bluray writer


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Ok ba ang AMD E350 for HTPC purpose?

IMHO pag nilagayan mo ng malakas na GPU ang AMD E350 bottleneck na siya. Gamit ko dati G620 2.6 core duo nilagyan ko ng HD6750 bottleneck niya.  Nasubukan ko na din ang AMD E350 di niya kaya ang high bitrate videos. >:D >:D

(http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2011/01/amd-zacate-mini-itx-motherboards-preview/asus-e35mi-i-6.jpg)

(http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-131-732-TS?$S300W$)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Nikkie on Nov 11, 2012 at 02:27 PM
Doable, but it's a little limited in terms of capability. Standard GPU-decoded formats walang problem as long as walang 3D, but it's not powerful enough to decode high res files in formats that are more processing intensive.

It's safer to target an A4 or a Celeron at the very minimum.

Aww. Planning to get the BQ660 case kasi sana kaso 80 watts lang built-in. Gusto ko kasi mount sa TV ko.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 11, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Guys, what do you think about Gigabyte F2A75M D3H FM2 mAtx board? P2,820 lang locally.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4352#sp

I think it's an excellent value solution. I've only had good experiences with Gigabyte.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 11, 2012 at 02:42 PM
Aww. Planning to get the BQ660 case kasi sana kaso 80 watts lang built-in. Gusto ko kasi mount sa TV ko.

If you are careful with the types of files that you play and the way you have your PC configured, it'd be okay. I just feel that this takes away an HTPC's greatest advantage (flexibility).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 03:01 PM
is a75 chipset compatible with A10 processor?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 03:17 PM
Yes that is a FM2 socket but for me i don't trust gigabyte simple i have experience after a year it fail and msi also after 2 years it fail but for asus no fail has been encountered.  >:D >:D

I think it's an excellent value solution. I've only had good experiences with Gigabyte.

Good for you.  ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 03:21 PM
i saw this on a website.

"With the release of the FM2 APUs, AMD has specified which processors they have targeted for which chipsets. According to AMD, the A55 chipset is targeted for use with the A4 and A6 series APUs. The A75 chipset is targeted for the A6 and A8 APUs and the A85X chipset targets the A8 and the A10 series APUs."

So does this mean A10 not compatible with A75? Wala pa kasi akong makitang micro ATX na a85x locally.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 11, 2012 at 03:28 PM
i saw this on a website.

"With the release of the FM2 APUs, AMD has specified which processors they have targeted for which chipsets. According to AMD, the A55 chipset is targeted for use with the A4 and A6 series APUs. The A75 chipset is targeted for the A6 and A8 APUs and the A85X chipset targets the A8 and the A10 series APUs."

So does this mean A10 not compatible with A75? Wala pa kasi akong makitang micro ATX na a85x locally.

They are compatible.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 03:35 PM
i saw this on a website.

"With the release of the FM2 APUs, AMD has specified which processors they have targeted for which chipsets. According to AMD, the A55 chipset is targeted for use with the A4 and A6 series APUs. The A75 chipset is targeted for the A6 and A8 APUs and the A85X chipset targets the A8 and the A10 series APUs."

So does this mean A10 not compatible with A75? Wala pa kasi akong makitang micro ATX na a85x locally.

Check this one.  >:D

Motherboard Model
PCB
vendor CPU Model Frequency L2
Cache L3
Cache GPU
Frequency Core Name Process Stepping Wattage
AMD A10-5800K 3800MHz 1MBx4 N/A 633 MHz Trinity 32nm A1 100W
AMD A10-5700 3400MHz 1MBx4 N/A 608 MHz Trinity 32nm A1 65W
AMD A8-5600K 3600MHz 1MBx4 N/A 633 MHz Trinity 32nm A1 100W
AMD A8-5500 3200MHz 1MBx4 N/A 608 MHz Trinity 32nm A1 65W
AMD A6-5400K 3600MHz 512KBx2 N/A 608 MHz Trinity 32nm A1 65W
AMD A4-5300 3400MHz 512KBx2 N/A 608 MHz Trinity 32nm A1 65W
AMD Athlon X4 750K 3400MHz 1MBx4 N/A N/A Trinity 32nm A1 100W
AMD Athlon X4 740 3200MHz 1MBx4 N/A N/A Trinity 32nm A1 65W
AMD Athlon X4 730 2800MHz 1MBx4 N/A N/A Trinity 32nm A1 65W
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 11, 2012 at 03:42 PM
is a75 chipset compatible with A10 processor?
same question haha...
will a10 work with a75 fm1 - nangangarap lang
im currently using asrock pro4 m
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 04:07 PM
same question haha...
will a10 work with a75 fm1 - nangangarap lang
im currently using asrock pro4 m

Di puwede FM1 yung sa iyo brader FM2 and A10. See this proc list supported.

A75 Pro4-M
Processor Info Since BIOS
Socket Family Model Power Core Frequency Cache CPU Rev.
FM1 A8 AD3870WNZ43GX(Unlock) 100W Husky 3000MHz 1MBx4 B0 P1.30
FM1 A8 AD3850WNZ43GX 100W Husky 2900MHz 1MBx4 B0 P1.10
FM1 A8 AD3820OJZ43GX 65W Husky 2500MHz 1MBx4 B0 P1.50
FM1 A8 AD3800OJZ43GX 65W Husky 2400MHz 1MBx4 B0 P1.10
FM1 A6 AD3670WNZ43GX(Unlock) 100W Husky 2700MHz 1MBx4 B0 P1.50
FM1 A6 AD3650WNZ43GX 100W Husky 2600MHz 1MBx4 B0 P1.10
FM1 A6 AD3620OJZ43GX 65W Husky 2200MHz 1MBx4 B0 P1.50
FM1 A6 AD3600OJZ43GX 65W Husky 2100MHz 1MBx4 B0 P1.10
FM1 A6 AD3500OJZ33GX 65W Husky 2100MHz 1MBx3 B0 P1
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Nov 11, 2012 at 04:09 PM
IMHO pag nilagayan mo ng malakas na GPU ang AMD E350 bottleneck na siya. Gamit ko dati G620 2.6 core duo nilagyan ko ng HD6750 bottleneck niya.  Nasubukan ko na din ang AMD E350 di niya kaya ang high bitrate videos. >:D >:D

eto ba sinasabi mong "high bitrate na video" sir?. http://cybernetnews.com/xbmc-high-bitrate-sample-videos/ (http://cybernetnews.com/xbmc-high-bitrate-sample-videos/)
(http://cdn3.cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/bitrate-test-birds.jpg)

(http://cdn4.cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/bitrate-test-big-buck-bunny.jpg)

maning-mani lang ang high bitrate video na yan sa MSI-e350 ko.Sapphire 6570 ang vc ko.nasa 36 watts lang max consumption ko.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 04:19 PM
(http://cdn4.cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/bitrate-test-big-buck-bunny.jpg)

maning-mani lang ang high bitrate video na yan sa MSI-e350 ko.Sapphire 6570 vc ang ko.nasa 36 watts lang max consumption ko.
[/quote]
eto ba sinasabi mong "high bitrate na video" sir?. http://cybernetnews.com/xbmc-high-bitrate-sample-videos/ (http://cybernetnews.com/xbmc-high-bitrate-sample-videos/)
(http://cdn3.cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/bitrate-test-birds.jpg)

(http://cdn4.cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/bitrate-test-big-buck-bunny.jpg)

maning-mani lang ang high bitrate video na yan sa MSI-e350 ko.Sapphire 6570 vc ang ko.nasa 36 watts lang max consumption ko.

Thats not what im talking about try those movie remux with high video bitrate a sample high video bitrate will not test your setup but a long movie with high video bitrate. One more nilagyan mo kasi ng video card kaya di talaga lag yan pero may bottleneck yan what im talking is onboard video card to test. If you like you can test that with splash pro motion2 ON. ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Nov 11, 2012 at 05:24 PM
(http://cdn4.cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/bitrate-test-big-buck-bunny.jpg)

maning-mani lang ang high bitrate video na yan sa MSI-e350 ko.Sapphire 6570 vc ang ko.nasa 36 watts lang max consumption ko.

Thats not what im talking about try those movie remux with high video bitrate a sample high video bitrate will not test your setup but a long movie with high video bitrate. One more nilagyan mo kasi ng video card kaya di talaga lag yan pero may bottleneck yan what im talking is onboard video card to test. If you like you can test that with splash pro motion2 ON. ^-^ ^-^

hehehe! how come na gagana na maayos ang splash pro sa  e-350 e di nga ito umabot sa requirements sa HD video decoding.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 05:28 PM
hehehe! how come na gagana na maayos ang splash pro sa  e-350 e di nga ito umabot sa requirements sa HD video decoding.

Kaya nga nag iba ako ng setup kasi nga madami ang di kaya ng E350.  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Nov 11, 2012 at 05:43 PM
Kaya nga nag iba ako ng setup kasi nga madami ang di kaya ng E350.  >:D >:D >:D

nice sir! hanggang e-350 lang kasi budget ko e. di ko naman kailangan ang spash pro.kuntento na ako sa default player ng xbmc. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 05:57 PM
nice sir! hanggang e-350 lang kasi budget ko e. di ko naman kailangan ang spash pro.kuntento na ako sa default player ng xbmc. :)

Sabi nga nila you have a nice setup on reciever, speaker and HDTV why not built a decent all around HTPC to enjoy your movie viewing. Kaya ko binenta una E350 and G620+HD6750 ko for my quadcore upgrade 3D iso bluray kasi di kaya ang mga need ko.  >:D >:D

Maybe your need is enough na yung E350 pero sa akin kasi i need the splash pro motion2 and 3D playing.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 11, 2012 at 05:59 PM
nice sir! hanggang e-350 lang kasi budget ko e. di ko naman kailangan ang spash pro.kuntento na ako sa default player ng xbmc. :)

bumuo ka na lang ng Sandybridge Celeron na HTPC. higit na mas malakas yun sa E-350. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 06:00 PM
bumuo ka na lang ng Sandybridge Celeron na HTPC. higit na mas malakas yun sa E-350. ;)

Mas mahal nga lang ng konti yung binenta ko naka G620.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Nov 11, 2012 at 07:15 PM
bumuo ka na lang ng Sandybridge Celeron na HTPC. higit na mas malakas yun sa E-350. ;)

17 watts vs. 65 watts o 35 watts?layo ng deperensya.plus factor pa sa e350- tipid sa kuryente. besides pangit ng intel sa hd video decoding.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 07:35 PM
17 watts vs. 65 watts o 35 watts?layo ng deperensya.plus factor pa sa e350- tipid sa kuryente. besides pangit ng intel sa hd video decoding.

Hindi naman ibig sabihin bro na 65 watts yan na yung gagamitin ng proc mo maximum yan. For me plus factor na lang na tipid yung HTPC ko pero sa setup ko now my PJ 200W + Reciever 100W+ HTPC 60W+. Dati tinitingnan ko din power consumption pero nung nag compute ako parang isang burger lang a month ang idagdag ko sa power bill ko. Nung naka G620 + HD6770 ako ang bill ko sa kuryente a month 2k+ lang kasama na PJ and reciever dun. Sabi ko nga bat ako mag iisip sa bill ng kuryente kung maganda naman ang experince ko sa viewing and comfortable pa kasi nasa bahay lang not like punta sa sinehan pagod and biyahe pa plus the food na mahal and ung ticket. >:D >:D

Kung ako mamimili for power consumption issue ill get a Intel i3 2100T and a low profile HD6540 for HTPC mas panalo pa kesa sa E-350. Mababa na consumption powerful pa in other use.  ^-^ ^-^

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/power.png)

Source: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2100t_11.html#sect0 (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2100t_11.html#sect0)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 11, 2012 at 09:55 PM
So pwede ba a75 chipset sa a10 processor?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Nov 11, 2012 at 10:43 PM
i use to have i3-2100t for my dad's htpc.. very solid processor.. wala lang nga mabili dito saatin... now i ordered i3-3225... but baka dec pa dating :( hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 11, 2012 at 11:33 PM
i use to have i3-2100t for my dad's htpc.. very solid processor.. wala lang nga mabili dito saatin... now i ordered i3-3225... but baka dec pa dating :( hehe

Comparing the two IGP of i3 3225 HD4000 and AMD A10 HD7660D power efficiency intel win but score not the high and games AMD score is so high than intel.
Games
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/comparisonamdandintelgames.png)

Powwer Consumption
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/comparisonamdandintel.png)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Nov 11, 2012 at 11:54 PM
Hindi naman ibig sabihin bro na 65 watts yan na yung gagamitin ng proc mo maximum yan. For me plus factor na lang na tipid yung HTPC ko pero sa setup ko now my PJ 200W + Reciever 100W+ HTPC 60W+. Dati tinitingnan ko din power consumption pero nung nag compute ako parang isang burger lang a month ang idagdag ko sa power bill ko. Nung naka G620 + HD6770 ako ang bill ko sa kuryente a month 2k+ lang kasama na PJ and reciever dun. Sabi ko nga bat ako mag iisip sa bill ng kuryente kung maganda naman ang experince ko sa viewing and comfortable pa kasi nasa bahay lang not like punta sa sinehan pagod and biyahe pa plus the food na mahal and ung ticket. >:D >:D

Kung ako mamimili for power consumption issue ill get a Intel i3 2100T and a low profile HD6540 for HTPC mas panalo pa kesa sa E-350. Mababa na consumption powerful pa in other use.  ^-^ ^-^

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/power.png)

Source: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2100t_11.html#sect0 (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2100t_11.html#sect0)
mali naman ang data ng benchmarking ng i3-2100t na yan sir, 35 watts ang tdp ng procie. pano naging 17.7 watts. personally, i dont believe in benchmarking.sa dami ng factor na dapat mo i-consider.

importante sa akin ang kunsumo ng kuryente kasi di ako mayaman. sa panonood nman ng sine. 1 o 2 beses na lang ako nanonood sa loob ng 1 taon, malayo nman pag i-compare mo ang SQ ng sinehan at HT. kaya 1 pa yan sa dahilan na di na ako nanonood ng movie sa mga sinehan kahit naka imax o thx certified pa yan. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Nov 12, 2012 at 12:33 AM
yes sir xrampage.. a10 is powerful.. kayalang.. most of my stuff even at office are intel.. i always replace our office pcs with phasedout equipment from home... kaya i try as much as possible to make them all compatible.. with each other para pag may problema easy to swap.. medyo more on 775/1155 ang mga binibili ko para interchangeable parts po:D hehe nakakatawa nga i look for 24pin ba yun.. yung pang oldschool printers... tinatanong minsan what i need it for.. hehe

i know amds are also pretty good.. but i had alot of not so good experience with amd during duron time kaya i decided to stay away from them. i3-2100t handled my needs.. i sure i3-3225.. will be an improvement.. my only worry is its a 55w tdp chip and my pico psu is only 80watts.. hehe

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3169/22/intel-core-i3-3225-and-3220-review-entry-level-ivy-bridge-energy-consumption-integrated-gpu-idle--cinebench-115
btw.. medyo iba po yung result ng chart na pinakita niyo sa nakita ko noon.. sa chart kasi na ito... mas matipid i3s kesa a8s

http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/Power1.png
tama po kaya itong chart? mas matipid ang a10 kesa i3 at idle? hehe

htpc kasi ng dad ko doubles as our torrent rig.. so palaging nakabukas

sir karloff
im not sure kung ano ang tdp...
baka max consumption
pero my old htpc

has
i3-2100t
3x 2tb hd
pico psu
if tama alala ko consumption is 20watts idle.. using a wattmeter

my old c2ds.. nasa 4watt idle using regular psu with 1 hd
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Nov 12, 2012 at 12:56 AM
yes sir xrampage.. a10 is powerful.. kayalang.. most of my stuff even at office are intel.. i always replace our office pcs with phasedout equipment from home... kaya i try as much as possible to make them all compatible.. with each other para pag may problema easy to swap.. medyo more on 775/1155 ang mga binibili ko para interchangeable parts po:D hehe nakakatawa nga i look for 24pin ba yun.. yung pang oldschool printers... tinatanong minsan what i need it for.. hehe

i know amds are also pretty good.. but i had alot of not so good experience with amd during duron time kaya i decided to stay away from them. i3-2100t handled my needs.. i sure i3-3225.. will be an improvement.. my only worry is its a 55w tdp chip and my pico psu is only 80watts.. hehe

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3169/22/intel-core-i3-3225-and-3220-review-entry-level-ivy-bridge-energy-consumption-integrated-gpu-idle--cinebench-115
btw.. medyo iba po yung result ng chart na pinakita niyo sa nakita ko noon.. sa chart kasi na ito... mas matipid i3s kesa a8s

sir karloff
im not sure kung ano ang tdp...
baka max consumption
pero my old htpc

has
i3-2100t
3x 2tb hd
pico psu
if tama alala ko consumption is 20watts idle.. using a wattmeter

my old c2ds.. nasa 4watt idle using regular psu with 1 hd

TDP- is Thermal design power sir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_design_power (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_design_power)

its okay to use pico psu as long as it is a true rated power.
pasok naman sa design ang 80watts.

normally mababa talaga consumption pag naka idle ang pc.masusukat dapat sa maximum. o stress test sa cpu.

athlon ang mas maganda kesa sa duron o sempron.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Nov 12, 2012 at 01:08 AM
true rated naman siguro.. galing us... pero... 55watts tdp yung... new proc.. yung old proc ko 35w tdp lang.. sana it will work.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Nov 12, 2012 at 01:19 AM
true rated naman siguro.. galing us... pero... 55watts tdp yung... new proc.. yung old proc ko 35w tdp lang.. sana it will work.. hehe

pasok naman sir. kasi 9 watts ang standard na hdd pag dinagdag mo.kahit pa isama 2 fan.
 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 12, 2012 at 02:55 AM
yes sir xrampage.. a10 is powerful.. kayalang.. most of my stuff even at office are intel.. i always replace our office pcs with phasedout equipment from home... kaya i try as much as possible to make them all compatible.. with each other para pag may problema easy to swap.. medyo more on 775/1155 ang mga binibili ko para interchangeable parts po:D hehe nakakatawa nga i look for 24pin ba yun.. yung pang oldschool printers... tinatanong minsan what i need it for.. hehe

i know amds are also pretty good.. but i had alot of not so good experience with amd during duron time kaya i decided to stay away from them. i3-2100t handled my needs.. i sure i3-3225.. will be an improvement.. my only worry is its a 55w tdp chip and my pico psu is only 80watts.. hehe

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3169/22/intel-core-i3-3225-and-3220-review-entry-level-ivy-bridge-energy-consumption-integrated-gpu-idle--cinebench-115
btw.. medyo iba po yung result ng chart na pinakita niyo sa nakita ko noon.. sa chart kasi na ito... mas matipid i3s kesa a8s

http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/Power1.png
tama po kaya itong chart? mas matipid ang a10 kesa i3 at idle? hehe

htpc kasi ng dad ko doubles as our torrent rig.. so palaging nakabukas

sir karloff
im not sure kung ano ang tdp...
baka max consumption
pero my old htpc

has
i3-2100t
3x 2tb hd
pico psu
if tama alala ko consumption is 20watts idle.. using a wattmeter

my old c2ds.. nasa 4watt idle using regular psu with 1 hd

Don't call me sir. Thanks

 ;) ;) ;)

mali naman ang data ng benchmarking ng i3-2100t na yan sir, 35 watts ang tdp ng procie. pano naging 17.7 watts. personally, i dont believe in benchmarking.sa dami ng factor na dapat mo i-consider.

importante sa akin ang kunsumo ng kuryente kasi di ako mayaman. sa panonood nman ng sine. 1 o 2 beses na lang ako nanonood sa loob ng 1 taon, malayo nman pag i-compare mo ang SQ ng sinehan at HT. kaya 1 pa yan sa dahilan na di na ako nanonood ng movie sa mga sinehan kahit naka imax o thx certified pa yan. 

But those review also test the proc as expected like playing 1080p so i believe those stat are true you can't believe but for me intel i3 win on that category which is for HTPC use.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 12, 2012 at 03:09 AM
So pwede ba a75 chipset sa a10 processor?

I hate repeating myself, but yes, they are compatible. Check the CPU support list of the motherboard that you're about to buy.

pasok naman sir. kasi 9 watts ang standard na hdd pag dinagdag mo.kahit pa isama 2 fan.

Please do consider the fact that vrms, the ich, memory, etc. also use power. Processor power needs can also exceed the TDP rating in some conditions. The watt rating of the PSU is often the total output of all rails, and a PC needing more power in certain rails might overload the PSU even before the demand reaches the PSU's total power rating.

i sure i3-3225.. will be an improvement.. my only worry is its a 55w tdp chip and my pico psu is only 80watts.. hehe

The Ivy Bridge processors are impressive in terms of efficiency, and the video PQ of the HD 4000 is up there with AMD.

You can turn your processor to a "T" model equivalent by undervolting and underclocking it. That will give you some power supply headroom. Running it at i3-3220T frequencies and voltages should reduce consumption quite a bit, while keeping the advantage of having an HD 4000 on-chip (versus the HD 2500 of a real i3-3220T).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Nikkie on Nov 12, 2012 at 06:26 AM
So which do you think will be better, AMD E350 or Intel i3 without adding a videocard. Might make this a Torrent/HTPC rig na lang that can at least play 1080p 2D videos. Setup would be mobo/processor and 1 SSD lang and PSU to be used will be 80 watts.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 12, 2012 at 06:34 AM
So which do you think will be better, AMD E350 or Intel i3 without adding a videocard. Might make this a Torrent/HTPC rig na lang that can at least play 1080p 2D videos. Setup would be mobo/processor and 1 SSD lang and PSU to be used will be 80 watts.

i3 2100t not the resular i3 available locally for me.  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 12, 2012 at 06:42 AM
So which do you think will be better, AMD E350 or Intel i3 without adding a videocard. Might make this a Torrent/HTPC rig na lang that can at least play 1080p 2D videos. Setup would be mobo/processor and 1 SSD lang and PSU to be used will be 80 watts.

You may be able to pull it off with a desktop Ivy Bridge i3 running stock clocks/voltages, if your PSU rails are properly matched to the demand. However, I suggest using either a T model processor or undervolt/underclock a regular desktop processor for an 80 watter PSU.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Nikkie on Nov 12, 2012 at 08:42 AM
@xrampage: How much is that? Any idea rin what good ITX board I can match for that? Cheap lang sana.

@Stagea: Thanks! Kung mahihirapan talaga ako with the 80 watts PSU from might buy a different case na lang din. Trip na trip ko lang din talaga yung Inwin BQ660 na case. Hehe.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 12, 2012 at 01:06 PM
@xrampage: How much is that? Any idea rin what good ITX board I can match for that? Cheap lang sana.

@Stagea: Thanks! Kung mahihirapan talaga ako with the 80 watts PSU from might buy a different case na lang din. Trip na trip ko lang din talaga yung Inwin BQ660 na case. Hehe.

As per checking at tipidpc the 2100t is not available but 3225 is available order basis for itx board you check that one with tipidpc. thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 12, 2012 at 08:48 PM
@xrampage: How much is that? Any idea rin what good ITX board I can match for that? Cheap lang sana.

@Stagea: Thanks! Kung mahihirapan talaga ako with the 80 watts PSU from might buy a different case na lang din. Trip na trip ko lang din talaga yung Inwin BQ660 na case. Hehe.

the problem with the Inwin BQ660 is the 80W PSU. (PC Hub isn't selling the 120W version) with an 80W psu, you can only put an Intel Atom or AMD Fusion ITX board.  :-\
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 13, 2012 at 12:41 AM
the problem with the Inwin BQ660 is the 80W PSU. (PC Hub isn't selling the 120W version) with an 80W psu, you can only put an Intel Atom or AMD Fusion ITX board.  :-\

Yup, or look for a "T" processor.

Running a regular desktop processor off spec to make it the equivalent of a  "T" model is another idea. Most Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge processors can run with very little power if you cap them to 2GHz or so.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Nikkie on Nov 13, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Thanks for the tip guys! Will try looking for that T processor first and a mobo to pair with it.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Nov 13, 2012 at 01:43 PM
sir stagea.. yan din nga po feel ko sa T versions e.. medyo gimik..
kaya i sold mine..

same proc.. na naka cap.. tapos... they sell for a higher price

pano po sir i-cap ang mga ganyan? bios po ba? eh.. undervolt bios din?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 13, 2012 at 01:55 PM
sir stagea.. yan din nga po feel ko sa T versions e.. medyo gimik..
kaya i sold mine..

same proc.. na naka cap.. tapos... they sell for a higher price

pano po sir i-cap ang mga ganyan? bios po ba? eh.. undervolt bios din?


Yep, pwede through BIOS and pwede rin through software pag supported ng motherboard.

Kung mahina ang power supply, better through BIOS (or both BIOS and Software) para sa bootup pa lang eh mababa na ang power consumption (sa initial switch-on na lang may transient demand). Otherwise, pwedeng tumaas ang consumption until magload yung OS and software.

That being said, hindi lahat ng BIOS eh maganda ang support for undervolting and underclocking.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Nov 13, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Guys share ko lang case coolermaster haf xb  :)
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2475/503603coolermasterhafxb.png)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 13, 2012 at 06:28 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/61662_10151404812430817_1081016896_n.jpg)

mukhang ok to ah..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Nov 13, 2012 at 10:56 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/61662_10151404812430817_1081016896_n.jpg)

mukhang ok to ah..

mukhang malaki ok sana ung kasya sa rack
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 14, 2012 at 12:22 AM
mukhang malaki ok sana ung kasya sa rack

Mas like ko pa din ang HTPC case talaga with a lot of hdd slot.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Nov 14, 2012 at 10:38 AM
ano ba ok na setup ngayon for htpc?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 14, 2012 at 11:06 AM
sirs, i just would like to ask regarding the newer graphic cards available on the market. i know they are now capable of outputting audio/video thru hdmi, but is the audio able to output let's say a true digital 5.1/7.1 audio when hooked to a receiver? or just virtual/matrix? and if so, what is the most cheapest card that is locally available that can do those? thanks for your inputs and suggestions!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 14, 2012 at 11:07 AM
sirs, i just would like to ask regarding the newer cards available on the market. i know they are now capable of outputting audio/video thru hdmi, but is the audio able to output let's say a true digital 5.1/7.1 audio when hooked to a receiver? or just virtual/matrix? thanks for your inputs!
it will output dtshdma and dd truhd
ung built in lang ng amd a6 can do it...what more to those dedicated
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM
@derick
thanks for the input sir. i was asking coz i am not sure whether they are capable or not. coz right now i do have a htpc setup (old setup running amd x2 with old model mobo) and am using a nvidia 9600gt. problem is my mobo does not support spdif (doesn't not have spdif headers either) and am planning to just change cards to cater to my needs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: thebat on Nov 14, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Pasali... bookmark muna.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 14, 2012 at 11:27 AM
@derick
thanks for the input sir. i was asking coz i am not sure whether they are capable or not. coz right now i do have a htpc setup (old setup running amd x2 with old model mobo) and am using a nvidia 9600gt. problem is my mobo does not support spdif (doesn't not have spdif headers either) and am planning to just change cards to cater to my needs.

All of the Radeon 5000, 6000 and 7000 series, together with the entire Geforce 600 series have full HD Audio bitstreaming support.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Nov 14, 2012 at 11:53 AM
All of the Radeon 5000, 6000 and 7000 series, together with the entire Geforce 600 series have full HD Audio bitstreaming support.

I really need to upgrade my card. HD4850 lang to eh.. DTS and Dolby lang kaya nya. Not DTS-HD MA nor DD TrueHD. Hehehe. I'm eyeing on the Sapphire HD7770, 5.5K lang.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 14, 2012 at 12:10 PM
^i too am contemplating with it eh. magkano ba ngayon ang cheapest card na can output full hd audio? kasi if for example you mentioned the hd7770 for 5.5k, i think i can get a new amd mobo, proc and mems with that budget which is i think capable enough to cater may hd audio needs. so medjo nakakalito lang..(considering i am using right now an older model setup)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Nov 14, 2012 at 12:36 PM
^i too am contemplating with it eh. magkano ba ngayon ang cheapest card na can output full hd audio? kasi if for example you mentioned the hd7770 for 5.5k, i think i can get a new amd mobo, proc and mems with that budget which is i think capable enough to cater may hd audio needs. so medjo nakakalito lang..(considering i am using right now an older model setup)

I think 5*** series will do. 3K-4K budget...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 14, 2012 at 12:42 PM
2875 lang ung A6 may proc ka na at 6series na vc
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 14, 2012 at 01:30 PM
^yep yun rin iniisip ko eh..mukhang mas worth it mag upgrade na direcho to a new proc/mobo and mems kumpara sa kumuha ng new cards..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 14, 2012 at 01:37 PM
^i too am contemplating with it eh. magkano ba ngayon ang cheapest card na can output full hd audio?

ATI HD5450 (http://pcx.com.ph/components/graphic-cards-1/msi-hd5450-1gb-ddr3-hdmi.html) P1450

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Nov 14, 2012 at 05:32 PM
you can try the preowned 6000 series.... i think its price range is 3k+...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 14, 2012 at 08:35 PM
If ako tatanungin get the cheapest FM2 mobo and proc kasi yung FM1 mobo wala na talaga yan phase out na sabi nila ung FM2 mukhang 2-3 release pa na proc ang isusuport. Atleast if like mo mag game puwede din.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 15, 2012 at 12:32 AM
^yep was thinking of that also kasi it's capable na rin with light gaming..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 15, 2012 at 04:02 AM
asus fm2 support cost 5k pa :-\
asrock na lang kung di maselan sa brand ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 15, 2012 at 09:07 AM
asus fm2 support cost 5k pa :-\
asrock na lang kung di maselan sa brand ;)

If you trust other brand than asus ako kasi mas ok sa asus.  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 19, 2012 at 06:29 PM
A must read for AMD HTPC setup most likely for AMD trinity.  >:D >:D

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6335/amds-trinity-an-htpc-perspective (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6335/amds-trinity-an-htpc-perspective)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 19, 2012 at 06:48 PM
A must read for AMD HTPC setup most likely for AMD trinity.  >:D >:D

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6335/amds-trinity-an-htpc-perspective (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6335/amds-trinity-an-htpc-perspective)

Yup, already posted on this thread: http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,170930.0.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Nov 19, 2012 at 07:59 PM
If you trust other brand than asus ako kasi mas ok sa asus.  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^

ako twice na nag kaproblema sa asus mobo sa ibang brand wala pa... di ako hiyang sa asus
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 19, 2012 at 11:59 PM
asus and asrock are both good brands..tested both..

eh kung itx mobo+procie ano cheapest na ok ang performance for htpc?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 20, 2012 at 03:03 AM
asus and asrock are both good brands..tested both..

eh kung itx mobo+procie ano cheapest na ok ang performance for htpc?

For now, Asrock A7M-ITX and A6-3500 (Llano) siguro. Once low-cost FM2 ITX boards show up, Trinity would be the way to go.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Nov 20, 2012 at 07:38 PM
sana bumaba pa price ng fm2 itx board :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Nov 20, 2012 at 09:48 PM
puro asrock and gigabyte lang nakikita kong fm2 ngayon walang asus and msi :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Frankthetank on Nov 20, 2012 at 10:28 PM
okay ito pang htpc case oh:
(http://content.hwigroup.net/images/products/xl/162726/fractal_design_node_304.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 20, 2012 at 10:36 PM
What are the dimensions?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 21, 2012 at 12:18 AM
For now, Asrock A7M-ITX and A6-3500 (Llano) siguro. Once low-cost FM2 ITX boards show up, Trinity would be the way to go.

magkano kaya to ngayon? no idea of the latest eh..thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 21, 2012 at 02:07 AM
magkano kaya to ngayon? no idea of the latest eh..thanks!

I think the APU is about 2.7k, while the motherboard is about 4.0k. You can also move up to a quad-core model for 700 pesos more.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 22, 2012 at 02:51 AM
My new HTPc setup kasing sukat ng receiver ko and it can accommodate 8x3.5 HDD and 4x5.25 Bay. I will turn the 3x5.25 bay to accommodate 3.5 HDD. No more clutter of USB since the case can accomodate a lot of HDD. Look wise parang receiver lang siya pag naka close.  >:D >:D >:D

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/SDC10988.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ndy on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:03 AM
My new HTPc setup kasing sukat ng receiver ko and it can accommodate 8x3.5 HDD and 4x5.25 Bay. I will turn the 3x5.25 bay to accommodate 3.5 HDD. No more clutter of USB since the case can accomodate a lot of HDD. Look wise parang receiver lang siya pag naka close.  >:D >:D >:D

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/SDC10988.jpg)
pogi:)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:11 AM
My new HTPc setup kasing sukat ng receiver ko and it can accommodate 8x3.5 HDD and 4x5.25 Bay. I will turn the 3x5.25 bay to accommodate 3.5 HDD. No more clutter of USB since the case can accomodate a lot of HDD. Look wise parang receiver lang siya pag naka close.  >:D >:D >:D

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/SDC10988.jpg)

very nice casing makes me want to setup htpc again.. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:27 AM
sana bumaba pa price ng fm2 itx board :)

Cheap FM2 ITX boards are starting to come in. The Asrock FM2A75M-ITX is now selling for 3999 @ PCHub.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:32 AM
pogi:)

Sumakto nga yung case sa laki ng receiver which maganda ang dating.  ^-^ ^-^

very nice casing makes me want to setup htpc again.. :)

Buo na chief.  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM
I have a question and this may be dumb I apologize. I have been out for a long time now with HTPC was wondering if this theory is correct..

HTPC with Blu-ray Drive + Arcsoft TMT 5 to a Power Amp (not A/V Receiver) connected via Optical/TOSLink will give me HD Audio?

The HTPC will serve as the processor but considering if I have an older Power Amp with no HDMI will I still get HD Audio?

I appreciate your inputs. Thank you!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:15 AM
I have a question and this may be dumb I apologize. I have been out for a long time now with HTPC was wondering if this theory is correct..

HTPC with Blu-ray Drive + Arcsoft TMT 5 to a Power Amp (not A/V Receiver) connected via Optical/TOSLink will give me HD Audio?

The HTPC will serve as the processor but considering if I have an older Power Amp with no HDMI will I still get HD Audio?

I appreciate your inputs. Thank you!!

No the HDMI is only use to pass through the HD and you still need a receiver that can decode the HD audio.  O0 O0
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:43 AM
No the HDMI is only use to pass through the HD and you still need a receiver that can decode the HD audio.  O0 O0

But wouldn't the HTPC serves as the decoder?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:47 AM
But wouldn't the HTPC serves as the decoder?

Pang pass through lang siya chief and only HDMI can pass through HD audio not Optical/TOSLink.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:00 AM
The HTPC will serve as the processor but considering if I have an older Power Amp with no HDMI will I still get HD Audio?

Is this a multi-channel power amp?

You can use analogue connections to your power amp, if your power amp has sufficient gain. Yes, it is still considered HD audio.

If you have insufficient gain, you can install a multichannel line driver / preamp.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:00 AM
I need to research more on this. My theory is if an A/V Receiver will process/decode input from a Blu-ray Player then an HTPC equipped with a Blu-ray drive and an ArcSoft Software which does the same can eliminate the use of A/V Receiver.  :) I guess the only issue is the connection from the HTPC to the power amplifiers..

I did some surface surfs and this setup is promising.. the reason I would go all HTPC so I can all my media, dvr all in one set and the luxury of having just 1 remote!! :)

Anyone can share. Thanks for your inputs!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:02 AM
You can use analogue connections to your power amp, if your power amp has sufficient gain. Yes, it is still considered HD audio.

If you have insufficient gain, you can install a multichannel line driver / preamp.

That is actually what i have searched and this could be the answer. Thank you! Now I guess I have to check high end sound cards in the market for this goal.. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:03 AM
I need to research more on this. My theory is if an A/V Receiver will process/decode input from a Blu-ray Player then an HTPC equipped with a Blu-ray drive and an ArcSoft Software which does the same can eliminate the use of A/V Receiver.  :) I guess the only issue is the connection from the HTPC to the power amplifiers..

I did some surface surfs and this setup is promising.. the reason I would go all HTPC so I can all my media, dvr all in one set and the luxury of having just 1 remote!! :)

Anyone can share. Thanks for your inputs!

You are correct. The only problem would be matching between your PC's analogue outputs and the power amp's analogue inputs. You probably won't run across impedance matching issues, but there is a big chance that you'd lack gain.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:04 AM
That is actually what i have searched and this could be the answer. Thank you! Now I guess I have to check high end sound cards in the market for this goal.. :)

You're welcome. Even high end sound cards typically have a low preout level, so your power amp better be a high gain type.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:15 AM
You're welcome. Even high end sound cards typically have a low preout level, so your power amp better be a high gain type.

Thank you again. I will have to check some stuff for this.. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:24 AM
some info of the toslink cable.

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/toslink.png)

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK)

Powerdvd only pass-through the HD audio using HDMI

Quote
HD Audio for Your HD Movies
Match your visual experience with the best audio available. Experience crisp audio with lossless pass-through for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio. Support for HDMI 1.4 allows simultaneous transfer of multi-channel high-definition audio using one hassle-free cable.

Source: http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdvd/features_en_US.html?&r=1 (http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdvd/features_en_US.html?&r=1)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 12:13 PM
some info of the toslink cable.

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/toslink.png)

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK)

Powerdvd only pass-through the HD audio using HDMI

Source: http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdvd/features_en_US.html?&r=1 (http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdvd/features_en_US.html?&r=1)



I believe you did not get the concept but thank you for your inputs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Frankthetank on Nov 22, 2012 at 12:37 PM
My new HTPc setup kasing sukat ng receiver ko and it can accommodate 8x3.5 HDD and 4x5.25 Bay. I will turn the 3x5.25 bay to accommodate 3.5 HDD. No more clutter of USB since the case can accomodate a lot of HDD. Look wise parang receiver lang siya pag naka close.  >:D >:D >:D

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/SDC10988.jpg)

Also saw your new SVS...

Panay ang hakot sir ah :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 22, 2012 at 01:08 PM
panay talaga hakot nyan hihihi...
elms kelan mabubuhay yang htpc hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 22, 2012 at 06:14 PM
I believe you did not get the concept but thank you for your inputs.

I get it but still not a HD audio it can be consider but not real HD audio. Check with derick he has a setup that does not support HD audio.

Also saw your new SVS...

Panay ang hakot sir ah :)

Simpleng upgrade ng ng HTPC chief hindi kasama yung AVR. The SVS blow my HT room. I believe we are talking about decoding the HD audio but the software powerdvd and arcsoft will just pass-through and the receiver will be the one to decode correct me if i'm wrong.  >:D >:D

panay talaga hakot nyan hihihi...
elms kelan mabubuhay yang htpc hehe

Tommorrow sister budget for the psu and memory is delayed bukas pa dadating.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 08:58 PM
I get it but still not a HD audio it can be consider but not real HD audio. Check with derick he has a setup that does not support HD audio.

Do you have a theory or an explanation? Please take note that there will be no A/V Receiver involved. It will just be an HTPC to a Power Amplifier.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:05 PM
BTT:

nung nag-audition ako ng speakers sa MLY Enterprises, naalala ko na TomMade ang casing ng htpc nila dun. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:38 PM
My new HTPc setup kasing sukat ng receiver ko and it can accommodate 8x3.5 HDD and 4x5.25 Bay. I will turn the 3x5.25 bay to accommodate 3.5 HDD. No more clutter of USB since the case can accomodate a lot of HDD. Look wise parang receiver lang siya pag naka close.  >:D >:D >:D

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/SDC10988.jpg)

wow ganda nyan sa rack pero pano yan di na kasya ung veris
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:47 PM
I get it but still not a HD audio it can be consider but not real HD audio. Check with derick he has a setup that does not support HD audio.

It is HD Audio. This was often how HD Audio was delivered before the majority of AVRs and Pre-Pros started supported bitstreaming via HDMI.

Some still prefer this solution, especially for Profile 3.0 (Pure Audio) discs because they can fully bypass the AVR's processing and digital to analogue conversion with this connection. High end Bluray players usually still have this connection (and provide onboard settings for time alignment and equalization) because of this very reason. Analogue component quality and design usually surpass what's inside AVRs in this case.

(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/blu-ray-dvd-players/222273d1296131506-cambridge-audio-751bd-oppo-bdp-95-bdp-95-audioboard.jpg)
(http://www.gramophone.co.uk/sites/gramophone.co.uk/files/imagecache/gallery_main_image/primare_BD32_audiosection.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:02 PM
It is HD Audio. This was often how HD Audio was delivered before the majority of AVRs and Pre-Pros started supported bitstreaming via HDMI.

Some still prefer this solution, especially for Profile 3.0 (Pure Audio) discs because they can fully bypass the AVR's processing and digital to analogue conversion with this connection. High end Bluray players usually still have this connection (and provide onboard settings for time alignment and equalization) because of this very reason. Analogue component quality and design usually surpasses what's inside AVRs in this case.

(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/blu-ray-dvd-players/222273d1296131506-cambridge-audio-751bd-oppo-bdp-95-bdp-95-audioboard.jpg)

Like it so far thank you for your inputs!! You may just convinced me to setup a new HTPC with HT Omega Claro XT sound card and get my old Rotel RB-1090 to work (I got it cheap off a garage sale few years back) :) :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Digities on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:08 PM
You're welcome. Even high end sound cards typically have a low preout level, so your power amp better be a high gain type.

Ivan, i found quite the opposite. my modded xtreme audio and xonar dsx have a pretty high level output. the xtreme audio is loud at -33 (relative). you just have to dial in the settings.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Digities on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:11 PM
It is HD Audio. This was often how HD Audio was delivered before the majority of AVRs and Pre-Pros started supported bitstreaming via HDMI.

Some still prefer this solution, especially for Profile 3.0 (Pure Audio) discs because they can fully bypass the AVR's processing and digital to analogue conversion with this connection. High end Bluray players usually still have this connection (and provide onboard settings for time alignment and equalization) because of this very reason. Analogue component quality and design usually surpass what's inside AVRs in this case.

(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/blu-ray-dvd-players/222273d1296131506-cambridge-audio-751bd-oppo-bdp-95-bdp-95-audioboard.jpg)
(http://www.gramophone.co.uk/sites/gramophone.co.uk/files/imagecache/gallery_main_image/primare_BD32_audiosection.jpg)

that is how i do mine. i have 2 modded multi channel soundcards and i use the receiver as pre / power. very useful for channel leveling. plus i have a reference to go to if i want to compare the perceived sq of my sound card vs the dac's receiver. you have to have good software to go with it though.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Digities on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Like it so far thank you for your inputs!! You may just convinced me to setup a new HTPC with HT Omega Claro XT sound card and get my old Rotel RB-1090 to work (I got it cheap off a garage sale few years back) :) :)

that is possible. just make sure it is a dedicated pc. use the digital volume control on the pc (ergo windows volume) and adjust volume from there. problem is lower volume = less bits. and opamps and dacs like driven close to or at full volume.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:24 PM
^ Thank you guys for your valuable info. Now I can't wait!! :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Digities on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:26 PM
magandang project yan ian. you will be pleasantly surprised :). that is how i started in ht. and i went through 4 receivers without the soundcard doing da conversion only to go back to it after 2 years.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Digities on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:30 PM
the guys over at audio asylum were talking about how flawed HDMI is as a means of connecting transports to DACs. S/PDIF is a bit better.. nothing beats a good dac over analog cables. a lot of people would think pc soundcards don't sound too good.. i'd say it's quite the opposite - just don't use a realtek.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:33 PM
magandang project yan ian. you will be pleasantly surprised :). that is how i started in ht. and i went through 4 receivers without the soundcard doing da conversion only to go back to it after 2 years.

Maraming salamat talaga brad for your inputs.. now Im going to start looking for someone to fix my power amplifier (probably faulted fuse)..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Digities on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:47 PM
np Ian. oh make sure it's your default device and play around with really cheap speakers and make sure you have the volume control down to a t before you use better speakers. part of me being paranoid but if you have really sensitive speakers and your normal volume is around 20%, installing drivers for the soundcard or some other "mishap" would bring it back up to 50, 66, 75, or worse 100. play something and you're in trouble :).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Digities on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:57 PM
nga pala. some ASIO drivers and other outputs might bypass the volume control completely. you don't want to use those.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:05 PM
wow ganda nyan sa rack pero pano yan di na kasya ung veris

Wala na veris bro ung kasing asus mobo ko may Remote GO na na puwede sa IOS or android. Parng yung desktop mo nasa tablet na.  >:D >:D

It is HD Audio. This was often how HD Audio was delivered before the majority of AVRs and Pre-Pros started supported bitstreaming via HDMI.

Some still prefer this solution, especially for Profile 3.0 (Pure Audio) discs because they can fully bypass the AVR's processing and digital to analogue conversion with this connection. High end Bluray players usually still have this connection (and provide onboard settings for time alignment and equalization) because of this very reason. Analogue component quality and design usually surpass what's inside AVRs in this case.

(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/blu-ray-dvd-players/222273d1296131506-cambridge-audio-751bd-oppo-bdp-95-bdp-95-audioboard.jpg)
(http://www.gramophone.co.uk/sites/gramophone.co.uk/files/imagecache/gallery_main_image/primare_BD32_audiosection.jpg)

I believe this is devices are not included on a motherboard you should buy it seperate correct me if im wrong what im talking is the built in toslink on a mobo. Where can i buy that and how much?  ^-^ ^-^

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:06 PM
It is HD Audio. This was often how HD Audio was delivered before the majority of AVRs and Pre-Pros started supported bitstreaming via HDMI.

Some still prefer this solution, especially for Profile 3.0 (Pure Audio) discs because they can fully bypass the AVR's processing and digital to analogue conversion with this connection. High end Bluray players usually still have this connection (and provide onboard settings for time alignment and equalization) because of this very reason. Analogue component quality and design usually surpass what's inside AVRs in this case.

(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/blu-ray-dvd-players/222273d1296131506-cambridge-audio-751bd-oppo-bdp-95-bdp-95-audioboard.jpg)
(http://www.gramophone.co.uk/sites/gramophone.co.uk/files/imagecache/gallery_main_image/primare_BD32_audiosection.jpg)

how much to?
if i have avr with optical out i can decode DTS HDMA with this ?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM
how much to?
if i have avr with optical out i can decode DTS HDMA with this ?

I think this is just a circuit board from Oppo? What you guys need is a sound card like HT Omega Claro XT..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM
I believe this is devices are not included on a motherboard you should buy it seperate correct me if im wrong what im talking is the built in toslink on a mobo. Where can i buy that and how much?  ^-^ ^-^

I was not talking about the built-in toslink in a motherboard. What I was talking was going separates using HTPC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM
I think this is just a circuit board from Oppo? What you guys need is a sound card like HT Omega Claro XT..
how much does it cost?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM
Here is my goal and you guys can do your own projects as well....

Video:
Dedicated HTPC -----> HD Radeon 7000 -----> HDMI -----> Plasma TV

Audio:
Dedicated HTPC -----> HT Omega Claro XT -----> Analog RCA -----> Rotel RB-1090 Power Amp -----> Speakers


Basically, my goal is to eliminate the use of A/V Receivers and go somewhat old school separates by using my dedicated HTPC as my media processor..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM
how much does it cost?

Its about $249 at newegg... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271005
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 23, 2012 at 12:09 AM
I was not talking about the built-in toslink in a motherboard. What I was talking was going separates using HTPC.

Dun nagkatalo kasi sa first post mo wala ka sinabi na seperate just a toslink ang sinabi mo.  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^

Here is my goal and you guys can do your own projects as well....

Video:
Dedicated HTPC -----> HD Radeon 7000 -----> HDMI -----> Plasma TV

Audio:
Dedicated HTPC -----> HT Omega Claro XT -----> Analog RCA -----> Rotel RB-1090 Power Amp -----> Speakers


Basically, my goal is to eliminate the use of A/V Receivers and go somewhat old school separates by using my dedicated HTPC as my media processor..

Pero di pa din supported ng soundcard na yang ang hd audio digital lang siya.

Quote
C-Media Oxygen HD CMI8788 Audio Processor
TPA6120A2 - Built in 120dB Headphone AMP IC from TI supports up to 600ohm headphone
Jumper switch to select different impedance level of headphone.
High Quality RCA connectors for each analog outputs.
24-bit/192kHz AK4396VF (120dB-part spec.) DAC
24-bit/192kHz AK5385BVF ADC for line input
Integrated up to 192k/24-bit S/PDIF high grade special Optical output (up to 5.1ch output)
Integrated up to 192k/24-bit S/PDIF high grade special Optical receiver
Supports onboard Coaxial or CD Digital input connector (An optional Cable (CA-1) is needed for Coaxial input connection)
Supports onboard 2pin digital output connector (An optional Cable (CA-1) is needed for Coaxial output connection)
Standard 10pin Front Panel Audio supports: connectivity for stereo audio output and a microphone input from PC case

Toshin Kogyo audio capacitor
Panasonic - Metalized Film Capacitor
Sanyo - mass storage Capacitor
Swappable OPAMP socket for Front Channel
Advanced Front Panel Audio support
XT connector: Claro halo XT is a bundled Claro halo with an addition of "XT card". The XT card extends the analog outputs to 7.1 ch. Connect the XT card to this connector.

CLARO halo XT is designed to deliver the best audio quality for headphone users including high impedance headphone owners. This performance is carried out through a built-in high fidelity headphone amplifier IC. Additionally, Claro halo XT can deliver its incredible audio to your existing receiver/amplifier through its high class RCA connectors up to 7.1ch. Upgrade your PC to a powerful and high quality audio center which can never be matched by onboard or other inferior


(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/audio.png)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 23, 2012 at 12:17 AM
Ivan, i found quite the opposite. my modded xtreme audio and xonar dsx have a pretty high level output. the xtreme audio is loud at -33 (relative). you just have to dial in the settings.

That's good to know, Les. How's everything going with your multichannel setup?

I've had power amps needing 4V or more to get maximum output (low gain varieties), and some needing as little as 0.1V. Sound cards generally deliver 1V or less on the outputs before clipping (except those that have built-in headphone amps and/or line drivers).

HT-oriented power amps usually work quite well with a source that can deliver 1V or so (THX cert requires power amps to deliver rated output at around 1.2V). Many popular HT power amps are actually hot on gain -- requiring only 0.8V or even less before clipping, as this gives the perception of power (making them sound louder than competing amps at the same volume setting). These amps work better for a preamp-less setup.

Audio-oriented power amps work best with an input level of around 2V (there is more variation here) and sometimes more. The high signalling level helps keep noise down, but makes them incompatible with most sound cards. The signal needs to be boosted with a preamp for these to work well with typical sound cards.

Preamps, integrated amps, receivers, etc. can usually tolerate 0.15V - 0.40V in the lower range, which makes them usable with most sources.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 23, 2012 at 12:22 AM
Pero di pa din supported ng soundcard na yang ang hd audio digital lang siya.

Yes it does through a daughterboard.

(http://www.htomega.com/images/halo/haloxt.jpg)

Its about $249 at newegg... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271005

Consider shielding that sound board sir, if you'd like to possibly raise the SNR (especially if you use a loaded high power desktop). If you don't experience any audible noise, then don't bother. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 23, 2012 at 12:52 AM
Stagea, just call me Ian. Yes thanks again for your inputs. Looks like we have the same stuff in mind. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 23, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Yes it does through a daughterboard.

(http://www.htomega.com/images/halo/haloxt.jpg)

Consider shielding that sound board sir, if you'd like to possibly raise the SNR (especially if you use a loaded high power desktop). If you don't experience any audible noise, then don't bother. :)

You mean the additional XT card as daughter board? AS per checking it will only add inputs to support 7.1 channel speaker system not support hd audio. 

Quote
XT connector: Claro halo XT is a bundled Claro halo with an addition of "XT card". The XT card extends the analog outputs to 7.1 ch. Connect the XT card to this connector.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 23, 2012 at 01:00 AM
Dun nagkatalo kasi sa first post mo wala ka sinabi na seperate just a toslink ang sinabi mo.  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^

That was my fault and you were right about Optical/TOSLink that is it.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 23, 2012 at 01:02 AM
You mean the additional XT card as daughter board? AS per checking it will only add inputs to support 7.1 channel speaker system not support hd audio. 


We probably should check our HD definition.. or better yet for sounds we should use Hi-Fi.. as far my readings, this HT Omega will give me pure clean sound which is Hi-Fi in my books. Then again this will have to be tested first hand before you can quote me.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 23, 2012 at 01:09 AM
xrampage, it means hd audio (digital) will output as preamp (analog)


Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 23, 2012 at 02:26 AM
You mean the additional XT card as daughter board? AS per checking it will only add inputs to support 7.1 channel speaker system not support hd audio. 


It adds 7.1 outputs. The sound board natively supports HD Audio spec multichannel LPCM. Like most sound boards, PAP is not supported (so formats like Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA cannot be handled directly).

If Dolby TrueHD playback is desired on top of LPCM, Libav software decoding can convert the format to LPCM in real time for regular sound board consumption. Libav people are still developing DTS-HD support.

Asus tried to do a workaround with the HDAV1.3 Deluxe with a beta evaluation version of TMT (enabling PAP over the analogue outs, hence full support for TrueHD and DTS-MA). I believe that they stopped support for this (likely because of industry pressure).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 23, 2012 at 03:37 AM
If Libav is not to be used, here's PowerDVD's HD Audio supported adapters (supported PAP implementation):
Realtek ALC679X (support up to 192kHz/24bit 2-6 channels)
Realtek ALC898 (support up to 192kHz/24bit 2-8 channels)
Realtek ALC899 (support up to 192kHz/24bit 2-8 channels)
Realtek ALC672 (support up to 192kHz/24bit 2-6 channels)
Realtek ALC885 (support up to 192kHz/24bit 2-channels or 96kHz/24bit 4-8 channels)
Realtek ALC889 (support up to 192kHz/24bit 2-channels or 96kHz/24bit 4-8 channels)
Realtek ALC669 (support up to 192kHz/24bit 6 channels)
Realtek ALC670 (support up to 192kHz/24bit 6 channels)
Realtek ALC892 (support up to 192kHz/24bit 8 channels)
VIA EnvyHD Vinyl VT1818S codec (support up to 192kHz/24bit 8-channels)
VIA EnvyHD Vinyl VT1828S codec (support up to 192kHz/24bit 8-channels)
VIA EnvyHD Vinyl VT2020 codec (support up to 192kHz/24bit 8-channels)

With these adapters, PowerDVD should be able to send HD Audio over analogue.

From the above list, only the ALC898, ALC899, VT1828S and VT2020 are worth looking at for fidelity reasons. Chances are, the VT2021 would also be supported.

Gigabyte's and Intel's ALC898 implementations are quite impressive (comparable to lower cost and midlevel stand-alone solutions for playback performance). Rightmark results put them ahead of gaming-oriented solutions like the Xonar DGX / DSX.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Digities on Nov 23, 2012 at 06:56 AM
ivan, how do you manage channel leveling with sound card to power amp setup ?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 23, 2012 at 07:09 AM
good question Id be interested to know.. tia!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 23, 2012 at 10:03 AM
@Stagea

Compare to DAC on the discrete audio card below which is better? Thinking of using this dscrete audio to my HTPC and for my 2 channel audio in the future.  ^-^ ^-^

(http://www.htomega.com/images/halo/haloxt.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 23, 2012 at 10:20 AM
havent heard that...but i prefer DAC....
unless someone can have us audition this
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 23, 2012 at 10:59 AM
ivan, how do you manage channel leveling with sound card to power amp setup ?

You can either adjust the power amp's gain control (useful if your amp has individual ones), or use your sound card driver's room correction feature. I prefer the latter, as it usually also includes time alignment.

@Stagea

Compare to DAC on the discrete audio card below which is better? Thinking of using this dscrete audio to my HTPC and for my 2 channel audio in the future.  ^-^ ^-^

(http://www.htomega.com/images/halo/haloxt.jpg)

The quality of this card is likely better than any ALC898 solution. The ALC898 just happens to be the best integrated audio chip at the moment (Audio and HT-oriented dedicated ones are of better quality). The integrated ALC898's advantage over high-end dedicated sound boards is that it offers a Protected Audio Path (and PowerDVD natively supports it for HD Audio). Dedicated sound boards need a software workaround to handle TrueHD/DTS-HD in a lossless manner, as they don't have a protected audio path (unfortunately, only a TrueHD workaround exists at the moment... the sole DTS-HD workaround was shot down).

havent heard that...but i prefer DAC....
unless someone can have us audition this

A good external audio adapter still delivers cleaner output in general. A high end one is beyond any internal sound board that I know. The main problem being none of the surround-capable consumer ones can handle the full bitrate of decoded HD audio reliably (as they are mostly USB 2.0 devices). Maybe when USB 3.0 audio gear pop up.

I personally would still prefer a decent Pre-Pro to do the decoding, if a pristine HD Audio output is the first priority. Unlike with high end dedicated players with top notch outputs, PC sound card analog outputs that are very "clean" (from a measurement standpoint) are more exceptions than the rule.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 23, 2012 at 11:03 AM
You can either adjust the power amp's gain control (useful if your amp has individual ones), or use your sound card driver's room correction feature. I prefer the latter, as it usually also includes time alignment.

Thanks again man I am so excited to try this out..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM
You can either adjust the power amp's gain control (useful if your amp has individual ones), or use your sound card driver's room correction feature. I prefer the latter, as it usually also includes time alignment.

The quality of this card is likely better than any ALC898 solution. The ALC898 just happens to be the best integrated audio chip at the moment (Audio and HT-oriented dedicated ones are of better quality). The integrated ALC898's advantage over high-end dedicated sound boards is that it offers a Protected Audio Path (and PowerDVD natively supports it for HD Audio). Dedicated sound boards need a software workaround to handle TrueHD/DTS-HD in a lossless manner, as they don't have a protected audio path.

A good external audio adapter still delivers cleaner output in general. A high end one is beyond any internal sound board that I know. The main problem being none of the surround-capable consumer ones can handle the full bitrate of decoded HD audio reliably (as they are mostly USB 2.0 devices). Maybe when USB 3.0 audio gear pop up.

brader ivan...how does it work
let say i have DAC connected via USB 3.0 on my pc
using usb 3.0 cable

will it make any difference pluging it on a usb 2.0 cable and port? thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 23, 2012 at 11:27 AM
brader ivan...how does it work
let say i have DAC connected via USB 3.0 on my pc
using usb 3.0 cable

will it make any difference pluging it on a usb 2.0 cable and port? thanks


I don't know of any DAC that supports Super Speed at the moment. Some DACs have ports for USB 3.0, but run at High Speed. The only advantages that these DACs could get from USB 3.0 are from either the beefier power supply spec and/or the tighter clock tolerance spec.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 23, 2012 at 11:50 AM
I don't know of any DAC that supports Super Speed at the moment. Some DACs have ports for USB 3.0, but run at High Speed. The only advantages that these DACs could get from USB 3.0 are from either the beefier power supply spec and/or the tighter clock tolerance spec.
i see just using my current dac to usb 2.0 and was wondering if may improvement kung ikabit sya sa usb 3.0 hehe..

thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 23, 2012 at 12:05 PM
i see just using my current dac to usb 2.0 and was wondering if may improvement kung ikabit sya sa usb 3.0 hehe..

There is no harm in trying if you already have the USB 3.0 ports anyway. USB powered DACs (whether partially or fully) can often benefit from a better USB power source. Non-asynchronous DACs may likely benefit from the more precise clocking (asynchronous ones may also get a slight improvement from this).

That being said, a USB 3.0 port is not always better than a USB 2.0 port for this use. A good USB 2.0 port can be better than a so-so USB 3.0 port.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: alihug on Nov 23, 2012 at 04:52 PM
bakit po A10 5700K (not locally available yet sa atin) ang preferred cpu ng mga nagseset-up ng htpc?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 23, 2012 at 05:34 PM
bakit po A10 5700K (not locally available yet sa atin) ang preferred cpu ng mga nagseset-up ng htpc?

That's only because the A10-5700 has a lower TDP than the A10-5800K. The lower TDP allows its safe use in smaller and lower airflow case designs.

If you aren't too bothered with the slight real-world difference in terms of heat dissipation and power consumption, then the A10-5800K will do just as well (maybe even a little better as it's slightly faster).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 23, 2012 at 05:55 PM
There is no harm in trying if you already have the USB 3.0 ports anyway. USB powered DACs (whether partially or fully) can often benefit from a better USB power source. Non-asynchronous DACs may likely benefit from the more precise clocking (asynchronous ones may also get a slight improvement from this).

That being said, a USB 3.0 port is not always better than a USB 2.0 port for this use. A good USB 2.0 port can be better than a so-so USB 3.0 port.
thanks bro asynchro gamit ko ung v dac II
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: alihug on Nov 23, 2012 at 08:52 PM
That's only because the A10-5700 has a lower TDP than the A10-5800K. The lower TDP allows its safe use in smaller and lower airflow case designs.

If you aren't too bothered with the slight real-world difference in terms of heat dissipation and power consumption, then the A10-5800K will do just as well (maybe even a little better as it's slightly faster).

thanks for the enlightenment sir!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 23, 2012 at 08:54 PM
can you guys suggest a good and affordable htpc case? (for peeps who aren't as rich as a certain warlock here. ;)) preferably itx or matx form factor.


I'm currently considering the Cooler Master Elite 120 ITX and Elite 361 matx for my htpc build.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 23, 2012 at 09:21 PM
Just ordered my parts :) Thanks for your inputs here. I will post some photos of my progress. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 23, 2012 at 09:50 PM
My new HTPC setup

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/SDC11026.jpg)

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/SDC11029.jpg)

Silverstone GD07 HTPC case
AMD A10-5700
AMD HD7660D GPU
2x4G Gskill 1600 memory
1TB WD Black

 ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 24, 2012 at 12:50 AM
Testing my AMD A10 quadcore with Splash Pro with Motion Ultra, Details boost and Motion 2 max mode. Smooth na smooth ang play automatic na pala naka enabled ang motion Ultra ng splash pro pag quad core I did not enable it. Partida di pa maximize yung 2x4GB ko na memory kasi naka 32 bit lang ako for testing. >:D >:D

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/amd_a10.png)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 24, 2012 at 02:03 AM
nice setup, xrampage.. I can't wait for mine. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 24, 2012 at 05:41 AM
elmer, makalat ang cables sakit sa mata .. bili na ng mods :P

btw bro ivann sa pasig k ba manggaling?  sabay sana ako :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 24, 2012 at 06:21 AM
elmer, makalat ang cables sakit sa mata .. bili na ng mods :P

btw bro ivann sa pasig k ba manggaling?  sabay sana ako :D
modular sana kinuha ni elmer.lalo kakalat yan pag napuno ng storage

papa jamy kitakits mga beki maya sa bandang palengke-palengke baka gusto mo sumama ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 24, 2012 at 07:01 AM
bro joko malayo kay master ivanness yan  :)
gusto ko kasi ang experience ng auto nya .. para kang nasa hi end stereo setup :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 24, 2012 at 07:03 AM
elmer, makalat ang cables sakit sa mata .. bili na ng mods :P

btw bro ivann sa pasig k ba manggaling?  sabay sana ako :D

Di pa tapos yan testing nga lang naka 32 bit pa nga yan hahaha.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 24, 2012 at 07:08 AM
bro joko malayo kay master ivanness yan  :)
gusto ko kasi ang experience ng auto nya .. para kang nasa hi end stereo setup :D
naiintindihan kita ;)
Di pa tapos yan testing nga lang naka 32 bit pa nga yan hahaha.  ;D ;D
nagamit mo ba yung enterprise dati?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 24, 2012 at 07:11 AM
oo nga pala elmer bakit di pa modular kinuha mo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 24, 2012 at 07:12 AM
bro joko malayo kay master ivanness yan  :)
gusto ko kasi ang experience ng auto nya .. para kang nasa hi end stereo setup :D

Loko ka Master Jamy, pang mahirap lang. Kita kami ni Boss KT sa mamaya. Pwede tayong sabay sabay if you want.

Siya ang may high end setup, naka Be na sa house, naka Be pa sa car.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 24, 2012 at 07:26 AM
naiintindihan kita ;)nagamit mo ba yung enterprise dati?

Ou nagamit ko na pero kagabi kasi nag mamadali ako to test kasi nga sabi kasi di daw quadcore yung A10. PAra makita ko dib kung hindi nga pero I doubt kasi nga yung ang new sa piledriver. Ano aalis na ako dito mamaya kina derick na lang. Pag di ka pa nag pakita ewan ko na lang kala ko ba maaga ka kina derick.  ^-^ ^-^

oo nga pala elmer bakit di pa modular kinuha mo?

Modular na yan semi modular nga lang kasi yung sa power niya hindi modular. Yung sa mga pang sata and Fan lang.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 24, 2012 at 07:30 AM
Loko ka Master Jamy, pang mahirap lang. Kita kami ni Boss KT sa mamaya. Pwede tayong sabay sabay if you want.

Siya ang may high end setup, naka Be na sa house, naka Be pa sa car.
di ka talaga marunong magsinungaling bro.  :P
mga what time meetup bro? :)
tsaka san maganda meetup, libis, tiende?  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 24, 2012 at 07:32 AM
di ka talaga marunong magsinungaling bro.  :P
mga what time meetup bro? :)
tsaka san maganda meetup, libis, tiende?  :)
kasya ba mga pulubi dyan ?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 25, 2012 at 11:49 PM
As per reviews trinity has four Piledriver cores with 2MB of L2 cache.

Quote
The combination of general processor execution and modern GPU function has been AMD’s ultimate goal since they merged with ATI. In 2012, AMD updates their desktop A-series line with an updated 32nm SOI utilizing “Piledriver” x86 cores redesigned for superior efficiency over the previously released “Bulldozer” and “Husky” compute modules.  Piledriver has an improved HW prefetcher, branch prediction, FPU and INT scheduling. ISA instructions, such as AVX, AVX 1.1, FMA3, AES and F16C, are also supported.  Each die has ~1.3B transistors on a 246mm^2 package and can have up to four Piledriver cores with 2MB of L2 cache.  The Trinity APU also features a Unified North Bridge (UNB), which interfaces with the Graphics Memory Controller (GMC) and manages power between the cores and the GPU, utilizing a new automatic bi-directional power management design (Turbo Core 3.0).  This allows for extra performance adjustment when the TDP allows for it, and there is enough headroom, and depending on the type of load.

(http://hothardware.com/articleimages/Item1912/small_slide-1.jpg)
(http://electronicsfeed.com/news_images/Image_Library/Chip/Products/amd/diagrams_/amd_r-series-diagram-z.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9HlFL-IqDFI/T7aZ04zf45I/AAAAAAAAAKs/orKTcwsw5Z4/s640/640_trinity-apu.jpg)

Source: http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/30951-amd-a10-5800k?showall=&limitstart= (http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/30951-amd-a10-5800k?showall=&limitstart=)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Nov 26, 2012 at 12:37 AM
sir.. baka may watt meter kayo
pasukat naman po idle ng trinity and loaded with 1 hd only:D hehe
ilan hd po balak niyo ikabit? mukhang madami dami plano niyo ah.. baka di na kaya buhatin ng isang tao yan easily sa dami ng laman.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 12:46 AM
sir.. baka may watt meter kayo
pasukat naman po idle ng trinity and loaded with 1 hd only:D hehe
ilan hd po balak niyo ikabit? mukhang madami dami plano niyo ah.. baka di na kaya buhatin ng isang tao yan easily sa dami ng laman.. hehe

Actaully the HTPC case has a 4x5.25 bay and 7x3.5 slot. I also check the other 2x5.25 bay and i can put 3x3.5 HDD. Plan will be 10x3.5 internal, 1x5.25 for hot swap HDD and 1x5.25 bluray writer/rom. So i have a total of 11 HDD.

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/GD07.png)

Sure ill borrow the watt meter of my frend to check the wattage of the HTPC with one HDD.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Nov 26, 2012 at 12:49 AM
if may time lang.. hehe curious lang po.. sa idle/load niya.. hehe
thanks..
wow that alot.. 11hd.. hahabulin niyo netflix server.. hehe jk
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 12:55 AM
if may time lang.. hehe curious lang po.. sa idle/load niya.. hehe
thanks..
wow that alot.. 11hd.. hahabulin niyo netflix server.. hehe jk

NP brader actually i will check pa din naman to share with here so other member will know how is the power consumption of the AMD A10-5600k for HTPC. Pag siguro nag mura ang 4TB puwede 11x4TB so total of 44TB planning to migrate all my 5x2TB to 3TB if budget permited next year.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 26, 2012 at 01:04 AM
NP brader actually i will check pa din naman to share with here so other member will know how is the power consumption of the AMD A10-5600k for HTPC. Pag siguro nag mura ang 4TB puwede 11x4TB so total of 44TB planning to migrate all my 5x2TB to 3TB if budget permited next year.  >:D >:D

Wow thats a lot of HDDs.. What are you planning to store those with anyway?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 01:07 AM
Wow thats a lot of HDDs.. What are you planning to store those with anyway?

Bluary collection in iso so convininet na ang pag play in one place na siya.  ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 26, 2012 at 01:10 AM
Bluary collection in iso so convininet na ang pag play in one place na siya.  ^-^ ^-^

Oh ok I hope its all legit and not copies of copies.. But still 11x4TB is a lot! Goodluck with the setup!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 01:13 AM
Oh ok I hope its all legit and not copies of copies.. But still 11x4TB is a lot! Goodluck with the setup!

Yah. Minsan kasi natamad ako mag tanggal kabit ng bluray sa case ang play it.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 26, 2012 at 01:16 AM
Yah. Minsan kasi natamad ako mag tanggal kabit ng bluray sa case ang play it.  >:D >:D

Yeah I know the feeling. I was in the same boat 5 years ago with Vista MC I had DVDs (300+ DVD).. so much easier for me to replay..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 04:19 AM
Yah. Minsan kasi natamad ako mag tanggal kabit ng bluray sa case ang play it.  >:D >:D
haha...nung xmas eb..nakita mo ung mga collection ko? 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 04:42 AM
haha...nung xmas eb..nakita mo ung mga collection ko? 

ou nga eh dami. lols
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:32 AM
hirap humanap ng fm2 mobo with usb3 + hdmi + sata3 6port na mura using tablet..takte
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:35 AM
hirap humanap ng fm2 mobo with usb3 + hdmi + sata3 6port na mura using tablet..takte
meron FM1 haha...
asrock pro4-M haha..ung gamit ko lol
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:06 AM
@joko

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20983941 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20983941)

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20984027 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20984027)

 >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:17 AM
@joko

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20983941 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20983941)

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20984027 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20984027)

 >:D >:D >:D
uu nakita ko na yan..alaws hdmi yan .
meron sa msi pero usb2 naman..potek.
kaiinis walang asus na abelabol localy
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:21 AM
uu nakita ko na yan..alaws hdmi yan .
meron sa msi pero usb2 naman..potek.
kaiinis walang asus na abelabol localy

anyare sa htpc mo ok naba?
o buo ka bago?

pabili ka nalang by january baka magorder si xrampage ng 3tb hihi...
ung mga remux mo elms..isa isahin na natin idelete...ISO na tayo haha..
iso ng mga collection..aabutin tayo ng 6months dun sa collection ni sir M-RK haha..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:26 AM
anyare sa htpc mo ok naba?
o buo ka bago?

pabili ka nalang by january baka magorder si xrampage ng 3tb hihi...
ung mga remux mo elms..isa isahin na natin idelete...ISO na tayo haha..
iso ng mga collection..aabutin tayo ng 6months dun sa collection ni sir M-RK haha..

di pa ayos.la pa time kalikutin.pero may buyer na kaya hanap nako kapalit ;D
aprub na rin ni general ang pondo.sana bago makaalis makahawak muna ng trinity
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:27 AM
di pa ayos.la pa time kalikutin.pero may buyer na kaya hanap nako kapalit ;D
aprub na rin ni general ang pondo.sana bago makaalis makahawak muna ng trinity
trinity ka na din?haha...akala ko intel fan boy ka? just kidding...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 08:15 AM
trinity ka na din?haha...akala ko intel fan boy ka? just kidding...


PAMDium boy yan.  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 26, 2012 at 08:33 AM
trinity ka na din?haha...akala ko intel fan boy ka? just kidding...

intel ???
ew! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 26, 2012 at 09:44 AM
So decided to come back with WMC and here are my specs below. Dedicated HTPC (strictly no games) only. :)

Specs:

AMD A10-5700 Trinity 3.4GHz
MSI FM2-A55M
G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR 1866
Kingston HyperX 120GB SATA III SSD
LG 12x BD-ROM Drive
HT Omega Claro Halo XT Sound Card
Hauppage Win-TV 2650 Dual CableCard TV Tuner
Lian-Li PC-C50B HTPC Case
Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D 380W PSU
HP WMC Remote

Softwares:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
ArcSoft TotalMedia Theater 5

Audio:

Onkyo TX-NR609 A/V Receiver
Polk Audio Monitor 70 II Fronts
Polk Audio CS2 Center Channel
Polk PSW10 Subwoofer
Dayton Audio 6.5" Wall Mount Surround
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 10:28 AM
So decided to come back with WMC and here are my specs below. Dedicated HTPC (strictly no games) only. :)

Specs:

AMD A10-5700 Trinity 3.4GHz
MSI FM2-A55M
G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR 1866
Kingston HyperX 120GB SATA III SSD
LG 12x BD-ROM Drive
HT Omega Claro Halo XT Sound Card
Hauppage Win-TV 2650 Dual CableCard TV Tuner
Lian-Li PC-C50B HTPC Case
Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D 380W PSU
HP WMC Remote

Softwares:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
ArcSoft TotalMedia Theater 5

Audio:

Onkyo TX-NR609 A/V Receiver
Polk Audio Monitor 70 II Fronts
Polk Audio CS2 Center Channel
Polk PSW10 Subwoofer
Dayton Audio 6.5" Wall Mount Surround
try nyo svs sub hihihi -medyo mahina ung psw10 para maiba ht exp nyo...
nabili nyo na po ba ung polk speakers na yan? or planning palang?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 26, 2012 at 10:40 AM
The Polks are my current setup. Yeah the PSW10 is somewhat weak but for my use its ok I don't live in a big house anyway :) Maybe in 5-8 years I will upgrade my a/v system :) Thank you for your advice.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 10:45 AM
The Polks are my current setup. Yeah the PSW10 is somewhat weak but for my use its ok I don't live in a big house anyway :) Maybe in 5-8 years I will upgrade my a/v system :) Thank you for your advice.

Actually yan din sinabi ko sa HT room ko maliit pero nung nag SVS ako parang sakto lang siya. Nasa 18sqm na room ung setup ko so far so good naman with POLK RTI A7, FXi A6, CSi A6 and SVS PB12.  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 11:07 AM
The Polks are my current setup. Yeah the PSW10 is somewhat weak but for my use its ok I don't live in a big house anyway :) Maybe in 5-8 years I will upgrade my a/v system :) Thank you for your advice.
hihihi...kasi ung psw125 go few months ago did not satisfy my less than 18sqm hehe..
gaano ba kalaki ung ht/dining/cr/kitchen room ko haha...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 26, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Before I had a nakamichi system which I loved very clean but snag these Polk for a peanut. Bought the 70's brand new $199/pair.. my wife hated it, still is.. its bulky and does not go well with our small house.. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Before I had a nakamichi system which I loved very clean but snag these Polk for a peanut. Bought the 70's brand new $199/pair.. my wife hated it, still is.. its bulky and does not go well with our small house.. :)
basta masaya ka brader e...bahala na si misis haha..ako i used the polk monitor 60 mas highend lang ung iyo
i let go of it..di kaya ng pioneer 1021..masyado bright and pairing...saket ng tenga ko....1movie parang kaya pa...kapag pangalawa na....strain na sobra...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM
basta masaya ka brader e...bahala na si misis haha..ako i used the polk monitor 60 mas highend lang ung iyo
i let go of it..di kaya ng pioneer 1021..masyado bright and pairing...saket ng tenga ko....1movie parang kaya pa...kapag pangalawa na....strain na sobra...

I think Polk speakers are decent and a better upgrade than HTiB. IMHO, if these speakers are blended with the right amps or receivers, wirings and room size.. it will definitely shine and can compete with the $$$ speakers sonic wise.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 26, 2012 at 01:00 PM
One reason I bought the HT Omega Claro Halo XT sound card is to prepare myself possibly I can upgrade to a separate amp and speakers.. just possibly but hoping its a certainty :) :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Nov 26, 2012 at 02:12 PM
bro xrampage..
may nakita ako switch.. for hd sa kabila para di sayang yung buhay ng hd niyo pwede niyo off.. kahit nakasaksak..
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20791909
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ndy on Nov 26, 2012 at 02:25 PM
meron FM1 haha...
asrock pro4-M haha..ung gamit ko lol

derick pareho pala tayo mobo:)  yan napalit ko sa asus f1a75 m pro ko ng nawarranty:(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:17 PM
bro xrampage..
may nakita ako switch.. for hd sa kabila para di sayang yung buhay ng hd niyo pwede niyo off.. kahit nakasaksak..
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20791909

Alam ko yan pag naka on na yung HTPC pag pinatay and open mo di na marerecognize. Have you tested already?  ^-^  ^-^ ^-^

derick pareho pala tayo mobo:)  yan napalit ko sa asus f1a75 m pro ko ng nawarranty:(

Never pa ako namatayan ng asus mobo.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:43 PM
Sapphire Trinity based Edge VS4 and VS8

(http://content.hwigroup.net/images/articles/Sapphire-Edge-VS-4-VS4-VS-8-VS8-Mini.jpg)

(http://images.hardwarezone.com/upload/files/2012/11/060f348a8f.jpg)

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Sapphire has announced a new and very interesting addition to its Edge Mini PC lineup, the all new Edge VS Series based on latest AMD Trinity APUs. Placed in an almost identical case as the previous Edge Mini PCs, the new Edge VS packs a lot more punch thanks to AMD's Trinity quad- and dual-core APUs.

The Edge VS4 and the Edge VS8, as Sapphire decided to call them, are both based on AMD's mobile APUs, packed in the same case and feature 2GB or 4GB of DDR3 SO-DIMMM memory, Gigabit Ethernet, 802.11bgn WiFi and Bluetooth 3.0, mini DisplayPort and HDMI outputs, four USB 2.0 and two USB 3.0 ports and a card reader. Both systems come with pre-installed Free DOS and support Windows 8, 7 and Vista OS.

The main difference between the Edge VS8 and the Edge VS4 is in the choice of the APU and although not officially detailed, judging by the specs, the Edge VS8 features AMD's A8-4555M quad-core Trinity APU clocked at 1.6GHz with 2.4GHz Turbo, 4MB of L2 cache (2x2MB) and integrated HD 7600G GPU with 384 stream processors and 320/424MHz clocks. The Edge VS4 uses AMD's dual-core A4-4355M APU clocked at 1.9GHz with 2.4GHz Turbo, 1MB of L2 cache and integrated Radeon HD 7400G GPU with 192 stream processors and 327/424MHz clocks.

In case you are wondering, the quad-core A8-4555M has a 19W TDP while the dual-core A4-4355M is rated at 17W. The Edge VS8 also features a larger 500GB hard drive as opposed to the 320GB drive in the Edge VS4. The new Edge VS series will also be offered as a barebone, in case you want to go with a large HDD, SSD, or up to 16GB of RAM memory.


 >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Nikkie on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:50 PM
^ Ganda nyan ah! Sana mura lang! :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:53 PM
derick pareho pala tayo mobo:)  yan napalit ko sa asus f1a75 m pro ko ng nawarranty:(
nasira?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Alam ko yan pag naka on na yung HTPC pag pinatay and open mo di na marerecognize. Have you tested already? 

Ideally, SATA hotswap should be supported by the controller and driver for this to work safely on-the-fly (software mount/dismount). Otherwise, a shutdown would be needed to safely mount/dismount a drive.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:01 PM
Ideally, SATA hotswap should be supported by the controller and driver for this to work on the fly (software mount/dismount). Otherwise, a shutdown would be needed to safely mount/dismount a drive.
Mr. Google...kamusta ung nadale mong PANA hehe...
nice to meet you sir..tangkad nyo hehe...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ndy on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:33 PM
nasira?

yes nasira yung asus f1a75 m pro ko. ayaw gumana yung hdmi:(  1 month ko inantay kay pc option wala na dumating kaya yan na lang napalit ko. satisfied naman sa asrock na to:)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:35 PM
Mr. Google...kamusta ung nadale mong PANA hehe...
nice to meet you sir..tangkad nyo hehe...

Nice to meet you too, Derick. Hindi ko pa na-claim yung TV, maybe one of these days. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:58 PM
Nice to meet you too, Derick. Hindi ko pa na-claim yung TV, maybe one of these days. :)
hehe... media player na ..ginawa pang TV..
sabi nga sa may AMNESIA GIRL na movie
TONY G: Pandesal lang hiniling ko...burger binigay nyo - may FRIES pa....LOL

which is better ...dual HD6530 ( a6 plus another 6 series)
or 7series to 8 kung meron hehe na VC?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:05 PM
hehe... media player na ..ginawa pang TV..
sabi nga sa may AMNESIA GIRL na movie
TONY G: Pandesal lang hiniling ko...burger binigay nyo - may FRIES pa....LOL

which is better ...dual HD6530 ( a6 plus another 6 series)
or 7series to 8 kung meron hehe na VC?

Sinwerte lang po at malaki ang pangangailangan ko.

2nd gen GCN na, if you can wait for it. Baka malapit na ang "Oland"
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:08 PM
Sinwerte lang po at malaki ang pangangailangan ko.

2nd gen GCN na, if you can wait for it. Baka malapit na ang "Oland"
aba - ngayon ko lang narinig yan..meron na ba sa google haha..baka nauna ka pa....just kidding brader...
natanong ko lang...ung htpc ko naman ginawa ok nalang internet browsing system ni misis
ok na muna ako kay measy for playing iso files( sorry sir mark eto lang kaya ko haha)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 26, 2012 at 07:53 PM
Elmer,

How are you planning to cool 11 HDD in one box?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 08:13 PM
Elmer,

How are you planning to cool 11 HDD in one box?

May 3x120MM fanb sa ilalim un saka may 2x120MM na fan sa gilid and i can put another 2x60MM fan sa likod. That should cool the HTPC case.  >:D >:D

(http://images.anandtech.com/doci/5796/Small%20(1%20of%2014).jpg)

aba - ngayon ko lang narinig yan..meron na ba sa google haha..baka nauna ka pa....just kidding brader...
natanong ko lang...ung htpc ko naman ginawa ok nalang internet browsing system ni misis
ok na muna ako kay measy for playing iso files( sorry sir mark eto lang kaya ko haha)

If HTPC lang mag series 7 ka na.  O0 O0
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 26, 2012 at 09:11 PM
Elmer,

How are you planning to cool 11 HDD in one box?
wag i-on :P
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 09:16 PM
wag i-on :P

Taniman ng madami na kabute.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 26, 2012 at 09:18 PM
Taniman ng madami na kabute.  >:D >:D
che!
ikaw kiddvd ha lagi moko binabanatan..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 09:22 PM
che!
ikaw kiddvd ha lagi moko binabanatan..


Haha kasi naman eh..  >:D >:D

Ano bibisitahin mo pa ba ako sa bundok bago ka sumibat? HDD na lang kaya ang kubin mo kesa mag build ka ng FM2 na HTPC.  ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 10:08 PM
Ideally, SATA hotswap should be supported by the controller and driver for this to work safely on-the-fly (software mount/dismount). Otherwise, a shutdown would be needed to safely mount/dismount a drive.

Actually hindi naman siya hot swap device its more on power ON and OFF the HDD. That's why i say that it need to reboot when you power ON/OFF since it will not take effect like hot swap.

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Product Description
This hard drive power switch is to be installed in the 5.25" bay of your desktop PC. It can connect up to six hard drives and control the power supply of each drives. It provides great flexibility to users. For example, it allows the switch between the hard drives with different operating systems easily. Moreover, It allows users to control the power consumption of their computers and extend the lifespan of their hard disks. It has both IDE (4-pin) and SATA (15-pin) support.

Hmm puwede 3x3.5 HDD hot swap in 2x5.25 bay.  >:D >:D Kaya lang max 2TB.  :( :(

(http://www.ebuyph.com/media/wysiwyg/PCparts/hdd/cstorage/orico2039sa/2010101901232854.jpg)

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Orico 2039SA internal 3bay 3.5”SATA HDD enclosure occupy with two 5.25" DVD-ROM drives The product support with 3bay 3.5”SATA HDD, occupy with two 5.25” DVD-ROM drives, single hdd support capacity with 2TB, three HDD support with 6TB. With massive data storage

Mukhang mas maganda yung lian li HDD hot swap.  >:D >:D

(http://lian-li.com/v2/tw/product/upload/image/ex-h33s/EX-H33S-01.jpg)

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Model : EX-H33S (Black) / EX-H33SX (All Black)
 
 SAS / SATA Hot Swap HDD Rack Kit ( Come with aluminum HDD rail handle)
 
 1 x 12 cm ball-bearing cooling Fan(1000RPM), with washable air filter
 
 Use 3 x 5.25" Bay space, Suit for most of the case on the market
 Support RAID functions 0 ,1 and 5
 Dim:148mm (W) x 128mm (H) x 229mm (D)
 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 26, 2012 at 11:24 PM
Haha kasi naman eh..  >:D >:D

Ano bibisitahin mo pa ba ako sa bundok bago ka sumibat? HDD na lang kaya ang kubin mo kesa mag build ka ng FM2 na HTPC.  ^-^ ^-^
bahala na sis.tutal wala pa naman date ang lipad ko.pag hawak ko na visa saka tayo mag usap
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 27, 2012 at 03:09 AM
Those are really nice HDD exclosures right there. I am actually tempted to setup something like that but the HDD price per movie is very expensive for me. Its somehow cheaper to buy the disc itself and store it somewhere. You guys are rich!! :) Even 2-3 2TB's are a lot.. and you guys are even planning to setup 10++!! :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 27, 2012 at 04:42 AM
Even 2-3 2TB's are a lot..

Believe me, it will never be enough. :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 27, 2012 at 06:30 AM
Those are really nice HDD exclosures right there. I am actually tempted to setup something like that but the HDD price per movie is very expensive for me. Its somehow cheaper to buy the disc itself and store it somewhere. You guys are rich!! :) Even 2-3 2TB's are a lot.. and you guys are even planning to setup 10++!! :)



masyado maliit yan  kay elms(xrampage)....hopefully magmura na din ung hdd
3tb ko wala na space - including laptop and desktop HD and 320gb ext
Puro 3d.iso and BD.iso start naming icollect hihihi..ang laki 40gb to 80gb
Ako naman ung mga peborit movie lang..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 27, 2012 at 09:02 AM
Those are really nice HDD exclosures right there. I am actually tempted to setup something like that but the HDD price per movie is very expensive for me. Its somehow cheaper to buy the disc itself and store it somewhere. You guys are rich!! :) Even 2-3 2TB's are a lot.. and you guys are even planning to setup 10++!! :)

Why it's not 1HDD/movie i believe either 40-80/movie it's much better to get HDD where to store the movie collection.  ^-^ ^-^

Believe me, it will never be enough. :D

+1



masyado maliit yan  kay elms(xrampage)....hopefully magmura na din ung hdd
3tb ko wala na space - including laptop and desktop HD and 320gb ext
Puro 3d.iso and BD.iso start naming icollect hihihi..ang laki 40gb to 80gb
Ako naman ung mga peborit movie lang..


We need more space to get those bluray collection.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Nov 27, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Ok well I still think it does not make any sense unless if you guys are buying bootlegs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 27, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Ok well I still think it does not make any sense unless if you guys are buying bootlegs.

May bootleg na bang BD50? Why would i buy bootleg if same na din ng original ang price?  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^

For me it make sense kasi ayaw ko mag kuluha sa collection ko then play ko sa bluray player para less hassle sa HTPC na lang.  >:D >:D

AFAIK bootleg available now is 25GB but why would i get such item if it will look crap on my PJ HT.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 27, 2012 at 02:58 PM
Those are really nice HDD exclosures right there. I am actually tempted to setup something like that but the HDD price per movie is very expensive for me. Its somehow cheaper to buy the disc itself and store it somewhere. You guys are rich!! :) Even 2-3 2TB's are a lot.. and you guys are even planning to setup 10++!! :)

Bro I think mas mura pa din if you will store the movies in HDD.
For example a 2TB internal HDD costs around 4.5K pesos which you could store around 30 bluray iso movies.
If you will buy those movies lets say around 600 pesos per movie, it will cost around 18K pesos...

18K pesos versus 4.5K pesos... ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 27, 2012 at 03:06 PM
Bro I think mas mura pa din if you will store the movies in HDD.
For example a 2TB internal HDD costs around 4.5K pesos which you could store around 30 bluray iso movies.
If you will buy those movies lets say around 600 pesos per movie, it will cost around 18K pesos...

18K pesos versus 4.5K pesos... ;)

Boss Louie, I think he's saying that it's redundant to store the movies that you already have in discs as you're doubling the cost of owning the movie. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 27, 2012 at 03:17 PM
Boss Louie, I think he's saying that it's redundant to store the movies that you already have in discs as you're doubling the cost of owning the movie. :)

+1

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 27, 2012 at 03:34 PM
Boss Louie, I think he's saying that it's redundant to store the movies that you already have in discs as you're doubling the cost of owning the movie. :)

Oh I see.
Pero what's the point of storing iso files of movies you have on bluray disc? Hehehe
Not unless there's a plan on selling those orig bluray discs... ;D

I think naman tatagal ang life ng bluray discs if stored properly kaya no need for back up iso copy.

Sakin kasi ang binibili kong bluray disc are those I plan to keep/collect.
Yung ibang gusto lang mapanood is sa ibang paraan nakukuha, hehehe ;D

Pero sa bagay si Elmer mayaman kaya may bluray disc at may back up copy pa sa 11 units 4TB HDD nya ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 27, 2012 at 04:20 PM
Oh I see.
Pero what's the point of storing iso files of movies you have on bluray disc? Hehehe
Not unless there's a plan on selling those orig bluray discs... ;D

I think naman tatagal ang life ng bluray discs if stored properly kaya no need for back up iso copy.

Sakin kasi ang binibili kong bluray disc are those I plan to keep/collect.
Yung ibang gusto lang mapanood is sa ibang paraan nakukuha, hehehe ;D

Pero sa bagay si Elmer mayaman kaya may bluray disc at may back up copy pa sa 11 units 4TB HDD nya ;D

lols For me kasi para isang saksakan na lang di na yung aalisin pa sa case.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 27, 2012 at 05:16 PM
Oh I see.
Pero what's the point of storing iso files of movies you have on bluray disc? Hehehe
Not unless there's a plan on selling those orig bluray discs... ;D

I think naman tatagal ang life ng bluray discs if stored properly kaya no need for back up iso copy.

Sakin kasi ang binibili kong bluray disc are those I plan to keep/collect.
Yung ibang gusto lang mapanood is sa ibang paraan nakukuha, hehehe ;D

Pero sa bagay si Elmer mayaman kaya may bluray disc at may back up copy pa sa 11 units 4TB HDD nya ;D

Pang mayaman yang ganyan Louie... Pang may pambili nang blueray at HDD
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 27, 2012 at 06:18 PM
Pang mayaman yang ganyan Louie... Pang may pambili nang blueray at HDD
hahaha....punuin nya daw ung bahay nya ng HDD at BLURAY lol

basta ako...sorry to say this kaya lang gang iso lang ako..i really cant afford to purchase BD
ung mga paborito lang siguro...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 27, 2012 at 06:26 PM
hahaha....punuin nya daw ung bahay nya ng HDD at BLURAY lol

basta ako...sorry to say this kaya lang gang iso lang ako..i really cant afford to purchase BD
ung mga paborito lang siguro...

Lols eto nag tratransfer ako ng file form hdd to hdd.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 27, 2012 at 08:14 PM
hahaha....punuin nya daw ung bahay nya ng HDD at BLURAY lol

basta ako...sorry to say this kaya lang gang iso lang ako..i really cant afford to purchase BD
ung mga paborito lang siguro...

Buti ka nga iso ako hanggang 4gig to 8gig na file lang eh...hindi pa 1080p.. pag nag checheck ako kalimitan 1xxx by 800 lang resolution eh.. pero ok lang di ko naman chinechek kung kita balahibo at pimples nang artista eh... nag fofocus ako more sa story at sa SQ ha ha ha...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 27, 2012 at 08:32 PM
Buti ka nga iso ako hanggang 4gig to 8gig na file lang eh...hindi pa 1080p.. pag nag checheck ako kalimitan 1xxx by 800 lang resolution eh.. pero ok lang di ko naman chinechek kung kita balahibo at pimples nang artista eh... nag fofocus ako more sa story at sa SQ ha ha ha...

Aba hindi pala importante kay Reyna Jason ng PQ....
Pamigay mo na lang samin yung AE7000 mo sis, hehehe;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 27, 2012 at 08:35 PM
Aba hindi pala importante kay Reyna Jason ng PQ....
Pamigay mo na lang samin yung AE7000 mo sis, hehehe;D

Ang sinasabi ko yung file hindi yung pinaglalabasan nang file... seryoso.. kuntento na ako sa collection ko na 4gig to 8gig mkv's yung iba umaabot nang 12.. di kasi ako masyado nag papay attention sa details nung movie eh.. basta malinaw sa PJ at hindi mukang DVD panalo na sa akin... Mababaw kaligayahan ko ha ha ha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 27, 2012 at 08:41 PM
Ang sinasabi ko yung file hindi yung pinaglalabasan nang file... seryoso.. kuntento na ako sa collection ko na 4gig to 8gig mkv's yung iba umaabot nang 12.. di kasi ako masyado nag papay attention sa details nung movie eh.. basta malinaw sa PJ at hindi mukang DVD panalo na sa akin... Mababaw kaligayahan ko ha ha ha

Ay supladita... ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 27, 2012 at 08:50 PM
Ay supladita... ;D
hahaha... samahan natin sa starbucks...ayun ang weakness nya lately
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 27, 2012 at 09:27 PM
Bilis ng windows 8 just installed a enterprise evaluation version. Kahit yung internet ex[lorer ang bilis parang chrome.  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 27, 2012 at 09:45 PM
Ay supladita... ;D

Ha ha ha tsup tsup tsup... Ang lalaki kasi nang iso... sayang sa space hi hi hi
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 27, 2012 at 09:50 PM
Ha ha ha tsup tsup tsup... Ang lalaki kasi nang iso... sayang sa space hi hi hi

wow. yan anghinihintay ko... kissssss... sing tamis ng windows 8 ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 27, 2012 at 09:51 PM
wow. yan anghinihintay ko... kissssss... sing tamis ng windows 8 ;D

Kumusta naman windows 8 mo na touch screen? Pag kinabit mo ba sa PJ yung laptop pwede dun sa PJ screen mo i touch? ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 27, 2012 at 09:52 PM
Ang sinasabi ko yung file hindi yung pinaglalabasan nang file... seryoso.. kuntento na ako sa collection ko na 4gig to 8gig mkv's yung iba umaabot nang 12.. di kasi ako masyado nag papay attention sa details nung movie eh.. basta malinaw sa PJ at hindi mukang DVD panalo na sa akin... Mababaw kaligayahan ko ha ha ha

Siyempre sabi nga iba pa din yung maganda SQ, PQ and the story.  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 27, 2012 at 09:55 PM
Kumusta naman windows 8 mo na touch screen? Pag kinabit mo ba sa PJ yung laptop pwede dun sa PJ screen mo i touch? ha ha ha ha

Di ko pa natry eh... sa weekend siguro... baka maging magic yung PJ ko na pwede nang touch, hehehe

TOUCH PJ ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 27, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Siyempre sabi nga iba pa din yung maganda SQ, PQ and the story.  ;) ;) ;)

Yup of course maganda talaga kung SQ PQ and STORY and hindi lang sabi nang iba yun... Totoo talagang maganda yun kasi everything you wanted is there... But again kuntento na ako sa PQ ng 1xxx by 800 na res.. kasi nga when i'm watching di naman ako nag fofocus sa skin pores and any details eh.. as long as mas malinaw sya sa DVD pasok na... And since ganun ako i'm, not going to waste 40gig of space for one move in which yung 40 gig na yun eh 6-8 movies na yung mapapagkasya ko he he he. Nung nagpunta kayo sa bahay kung manonotice nyo hindi full 1080p yung mga copies ko.. pero malinaw pa din..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 27, 2012 at 09:58 PM
Di ko pa natry eh... sa weekend siguro... baka maging magic yung PJ ko na pwede nang touch, hehehe

TOUCH PJ ;D

Wahahahaha yup ha ha ha.. Kaso wag ka haharang sa ilaw or else wala ka ma totouch.. dun ka sa gilid para di mo matakipan ang ilaw.. Kung di mo maabot kasi malaki screen mo.. gumamit ka nang walis ha ha ha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 27, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Wahahahaha yup ha ha ha.. Kaso wag ka haharang sa ilaw or else wala ka ma totouch.. dun ka sa gilid para di mo matakipan ang ilaw.. Kung di mo maabot kasi malaki screen mo.. gumamit ka nang walis ha ha ha

Di ko kailangan ng walis sis. Tinitrain ko na yung mga gagamba na gumapang kung saan ko gusting iclick yung screen ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 27, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Di ko kailangan ng walis sis. Tinitrain ko na yung mga gagamba na gumapang kung saan ko gusting iclick yung screen ;D

Magic pen dapat.

Yup of course maganda talaga kung SQ PQ and STORY and hindi lang sabi nang iba yun... Totoo talagang maganda yun kasi everything you wanted is there... But again kuntento na ako sa PQ ng 1xxx by 800 na res.. kasi nga when i'm watching di naman ako nag fofocus sa skin pores and any details eh.. as long as mas malinaw sya sa DVD pasok na... And since ganun ako i'm, not going to waste 40gig of space for one move in which yung 40 gig na yun eh 6-8 movies na yung mapapagkasya ko he he he. Nung nagpunta kayo sa bahay kung manonotice nyo hindi full 1080p yung mga copies ko.. pero malinaw pa din..

Tama ka pero my mga scene kasi na di ganun kaganda parang upscaled na DVD yung itsura. Eto nanonood ako ng HBO HD AFAIK same \lang ng 720p ang mga ito and I can see some scene na parang upscaled DVD ang dating. Mabuti ka pa kasi ok na sa iyo ung ganun sa akin kasi hindi.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 27, 2012 at 11:52 PM
Magic pen dapat.

Tama ka pero my mga scene kasi na di ganun kaganda parang upscaled na DVD yung itsura. Eto nanonood ako ng HBO HD AFAIK same \lang ng 720p ang mga ito and I can see some scene na parang upscaled DVD ang dating. Mabuti ka pa kasi ok na sa iyo ung ganun sa akin kasi hindi.  ;) ;)

Yup di ako gaano ka OC sa PQ.. mas OC ako sa SQ... That's why ang focus ko ngayon eh Audio...  Sa totoo lang once or twice lang ako nakakanood nang Movie... Dumami lang ang Movie time ko nung bago ang PJ.. ngayon hindi na.. Kaya hindi rin ako nag iinvest sa 3D glasses eh.. everyday more than 12 hours audio ako hanggang sa makatulog at magising.. Isa pa maganda naman quality na binubuga nang PJ even on a 720p material na 4gig.. para sa akin panalo na yun...

Yung mga napapansin mo na parang upscaled na DVD scenes, actually kung ako yan di ko na yan mapapansin he he he...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 28, 2012 at 04:08 AM
jason...kapag SQ ka magfocus ISO ka haha....

DTS HDMA and DD TRUEHD hihihi...
andito naman kami taga pirata mo...haha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 28, 2012 at 08:25 AM
DTS HDMA and DD TRUEHD hihihi...

DXD or higher lang daw papasa sa bagong build ni Jason. Palit gamit din to accomodate this.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 28, 2012 at 08:55 AM
DXD or higher lang daw papasa sa bagong build ni Jason. Palit gamit din to accomodate this.
bagong format nanaman yan brader IVAN? ibang klase ka talaga....ngayon ko lang nadinig yan
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 28, 2012 at 09:19 AM
bagong format nanaman yan brader IVAN? ibang klase ka talaga....ngayon ko lang nadinig yan

Anong kaguluhan yan. MAster ivan san ko mababasa yan?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 28, 2012 at 11:26 AM
bagong format nanaman yan brader IVAN? ibang klase ka talaga....ngayon ko lang nadinig yan

Matagal na yan for audio. It's a professional multichannel-capable format that's been around for 6 or so years na. You can ask the users here, quiet lang sila.

Limited ang commercially available material, but the quality is generally superb. High end music labels often record and master at DXD or higher then just downconvert the material for consumer distribution. Some labels do sell DXD copies for those who prefer to get the full quality of the engineer's work.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Matagal na yan for audio. It's a professional multichannel-capable format that's been around for 6 or so years na. You can ask the users here, quiet lang sila.

Limited ang commercially available material, but the quality is generally superb. High end music labels often record and master at DXD or higher then just downconvert the material for consumer distribution. Some labels do sell DXD copies for those who prefer to get the full quality of the engineer's work.

Meron na bang receiver/processor capable of handling that new format?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Meron na bang receiver/processor capable of handling that new format?

Meron naman, some HiFi components and professional gear. HDMI and SPDIF do not support anything above 192/24 kaya proprietary connection usually na multiple AES or I2S based.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 28, 2012 at 02:00 PM
Meron na bang receiver/processor capable of handling that new format?
sis pwede na to sayo?
 http://www.aussiehifi.com.au/buy/moon-andromedas-reference-cd-player-with-dac/ANDROMEDARS
pagtyagaan mo muna yan for meantime ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 28, 2012 at 02:06 PM
sis pwede na to sayo?
 http://www.aussiehifi.com.au/buy/moon-andromedas-reference-cd-player-with-dac/ANDROMEDARS
pagtyagaan mo muna yan for meantime ;)

Naka $110k front end na daw si Don Jason, ayaw na nya magdowngrade. Pinapainit na nya ang dCS Vivaldi para sa kanyang DXD collection.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Nov 28, 2012 at 02:42 PM
aba e dyan pala dapat  tayo sa dec15  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 28, 2012 at 04:31 PM
Naka $110k front end na daw si Don Jason, ayaw na nya magdowngrade. Pinapainit na nya ang dCS Vivaldi para sa kanyang DXD collection.

Anak nang pating sir Ivan ha ha ha yan ang napangarapan ko kagabi ha ha ha...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Nov 29, 2012 at 12:44 AM
What ir receiver works with harmony remotes?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 29, 2012 at 02:42 AM
Anak nang pating sir Ivan ha ha ha yan ang napangarapan ko kagabi ha ha ha...

It might be a prophetic dream, for all we know.

What ir receiver works with harmony remotes?

Logitech has an online database of compatible devices. Please expect to only have basic functionality with the preset programming. Special functions may have to be learned.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: knotfersail on Nov 29, 2012 at 07:11 AM
what happened to this thread?  I thought it was " Share your HTPC set-up Part2" thread...

O.T. / Non-sense Daldalan Thread na pala, sayang  :P

This is better be closed by the mods rather than to see those nonsense posts  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Vince_H12 on Nov 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM
what happened to this thread?  I thought it was " Share your HTPC set-up Part2" thread...

O.T. / Non-sense Daldalan Thread na pala, sayang  :P

This is better be closed by the mods rather than to see those nonsense posts  :P :P :P

Eh di wag ka magbasa dito. Dami mong alam. :-X
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: _kamatis on Nov 29, 2012 at 01:23 PM
wag na flame.. mag mahalan tayo.

my HTPC - (sold to kuya)
Zacate E350
4g RAM
500 Blue Carviar
400PSU FSP

current HTPC
i3 2120
8g RAM (4g lang nagagamit since naka 32bit OS lang ako)
1TB Green
500TB Blue (OS)
64MB SSD
400W FSP

to buy
6670 GDDR5 Sapphire
Lian Li Cube/ or PGS Q202 / Elite Advanced
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 30, 2012 at 06:44 PM
Sa windows 7 ba kita yung ganitong properties ng HDMI?

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/wimdows8.png)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 30, 2012 at 06:46 PM
yup.... pati nga ung old receiver ko na 805 lumabas...hihihi
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Nov 30, 2012 at 07:57 PM
guys ok na ba ito for cheap basic htpc setup:

amd build:
amd llano a4-3400 2.7ghz socket FM1
asrock a75m-itx

intel build:
intel core i3-2100 3.1ghz LGA 1155
asrock b75m-itx

how much kaya to sa market ngayon and locally available ba yung mga itx mobos? thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 30, 2012 at 08:05 PM
wag na flame.. mag mahalan tayo.

my HTPC - (sold to kuya)
Zacate E350
4g RAM
500 Blue Carviar
400PSU FSP


may AMD Zacate E-350 din ako. it's a Manli T2 nettop. I put 4GB DDR3 and a 500GB 2.5" HDD. I'm not using it now coz I find too slow. (mainly due to the 5400rpm hard disk.) I plan to replace its HDD with an SSD soon. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Courage on Nov 30, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Sa windows 7 ba kita yung ganitong properties ng HDMI?

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/wimdows8.png)

Yup... kita din na ganyan..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 01, 2012 at 12:01 AM
guys ok na ba ito for cheap basic htpc setup:

amd build:
amd llano a4-3400 2.7ghz socket FM1
asrock a75m-itx

intel build:
intel core i3-2100 3.1ghz LGA 1155
asrock b75m-itx

how much kaya to sa market ngayon and locally available ba yung mga itx mobos? thanks!

Get the lates A?MD A10-5800k it will surely beat the i3. I just tested my AMD 10-5700 65W get from amazon with battle filed 3 max settings yan mas stress pa kesa sa pag play ng movies pero walang kalag lag.  >:D >:D >:D

Processor: FM2 , A10-5800k - P5950.00
FM2 Asrock FM2A75M-ITX - 3850.00
GSkil 2x4GB - 2050
PSU - Seasonic 520W - 3100

may AMD Zacate E-350 din ako. it's a Manli T2 nettop. I put 4GB DDR3 and a 500GB 2.5" HDD. I'm not using it now coz I find too slow. (mainly due to the 5400rpm hard disk.) I plan to replace its HDD with an SSD soon. ;)

SSD will add fast opening of file or programs but as they said at TPC when your software is running its like 7200rpm hdd already on the response.  ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Dec 01, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Processor: FM2 , A10-5800k - P5950.00
FM2 Asrock FM2A75M-ITX - 3850.00
GSkil 2x4GB - 2050
PSU - Seasonic 520W - 3100

saang store ito sir? mas ok sana if readily available to locally. thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Dec 01, 2012 at 12:51 AM
Started building my new HTPC last night was ok but somehow I find it too noisy even with stock HSF A10-5700..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 01, 2012 at 02:29 AM
Started building my new HTPC last night was ok but somehow I find it too noisy even with stock HSF A10-5700..

The stock HSF can be quite noisy. You can try playing with the temperature thresholds and fan ramp, or better yet put in a large and quiet HSF. A large cooler with a large fan would provide adequate cooling even when the fan is barely spinning.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 01, 2012 at 05:56 AM
saang store ito sir? mas ok sana if readily available to locally. thanks!

Check TPC.

Started building my new HTPC last night was ok but somehow I find it too noisy even with stock HSF A10-5700..

Noisy baka naman sa setup mo lang. I have also the A10-5700 and its so quiet at all even stock HSF. May case also has a 3 120MM fan but my HTPC is so quiet at all.  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 01, 2012 at 07:14 AM
Ian,

Check the Smart Fan controls in the BIOS. There might be a way to increase the target temperature and to slow down the fan ramp. Speedfan can also be used.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Dec 01, 2012 at 07:26 AM
Thanks guys! I think I am still used to the quite blu-ray player. Was actually weird because I did not notice any noise when I was using my old HTPC :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 01, 2012 at 07:45 AM
Thanks guys! I think I am still used to the quite blu-ray player. Was actually weird because I did not notice any noise when I was using my old HTPC :)

You're welcome. You can set the CPU Smart Fan Target in the BIOS to something like 60 or 65 deg Celsius, then reduce the CPU Min Fan Speed to a number that keeps the cooler quiet enough for comfort.

This keeps the fan running at a lower speed until the temperature starts to break the target temp (this shouldn't happen very often if you have sufficient case ventilation and a reasonable min fan speed).

I'm quite OC with component noise, which is why I deadened and undervolted my main PC. I still run active cooling, but the fans spin at very low rates (~230rpm for the CPU fan for example). Mechanical parts are isolated with silicon mounts. HDD whir can still be heard up close, however.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Dec 01, 2012 at 07:53 AM
Yeah I may try that but I will probably go with your advice and get a larger HSF may be one of those Zalman's..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 01, 2012 at 07:59 AM
Yeah I may try that but I will probably go with your advice and get a larger HSF may be one of those Zalman's..

Any major brand should have a decent HSF. Mass matters more than tech in most of these cases (unless you're really pushing the limits).

A large cooler with a big fan from a reliable brand is usually more than enough. Almost any fan would be quiet at low speeds.

Check if the fan is a PWM type, and watch out for the usable rev range. Some motors aren't designed to spin slowly. If your case fan isn't PWM, you may also consider replacing it (granted that your motherboard is not equipped to modulate non-PWM fans).

If this would fit your case, it's fairly cheap and can be ran at 600rpm:
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CZk9BjvUL.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Ian Villaceran on Dec 01, 2012 at 08:07 AM
You're the best man thank you!! :)

Any major brand should have a decent HSF. Mass matters more than tech in most of these cases (unless you're really pushing the limits).

A large cooler with a big fan from a reliable brand is usually more than enough. Almost any fan would be quiet at low speeds.

Check if the fan is a PWM type, and watch out for the usable rev range. Some motors aren't designed to spin slowly. If your case fan isn't PWM, you may also consider replacing it (granted that your motherboard is not equipped to modulate non-PWM fans).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 01, 2012 at 08:27 AM
You're the best man thank you!! :)


You're welcome bro. Check for clearance inside your case before deciding on a cooler. :)

Clean the APU's heat spreader completely before applying new heatsink paste. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 01, 2012 at 08:43 AM
@all

I'm tempted to build an htpc using a cheap H61 chipset motherboard with "just" 4 SATA II slots. what do you guys think? pwede na ba ang 4 SATA slots?  ::)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 01, 2012 at 09:01 AM
@all

I'm tempted to build an htpc using a cheap H61 chipset motherboard with "just" 4 SATA II slots. what do you guys think? pwede na ba ang 4 SATA slots?  ::)

Consider one consumed by the optical drive. Granted that you won't be using a dedicated OS/Application drive, that leaves you with ports for 3 HDDS.

If you're buying 3TB or 4TB HDDs, you're looking at upto 9-12TB internal. That's good enough for most people.

Moving up to the B75 chipset makes sense though, as you're getting USB 3.0. The B75 also runs a faster SATA variant (would make sense if you're looking at going the SSD route), and includes PCI-E 3.0 (not much use for now, unless you plan on upgrading later on).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Dec 01, 2012 at 09:07 AM
@all

I'm tempted to build an htpc using a cheap H61 chipset motherboard with "just" 4 SATA II slots. what do you guys think? pwede na ba ang 4 SATA slots?  ::)
pwede na yan sir. ilagay mo 3tb per port. plus kung atx o matx na board makuha mo pwede ka rin magdagdag ng sata card sa pci express slot incase na kulang.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 01, 2012 at 09:12 AM
thanks for the suggestions guys. I'll probably get a B75-based board with 6 SATA slots instead. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 01, 2012 at 09:13 AM
pwede na yan sir. ilagay mo 3tb per port. plus kung atx o matx na board makuha mo pwede ka rin magdagdag ng sata card sa pci express slot incase na kulang.

A lot of standalone SATA controller chips do not have support for Windows 8 at this point, however. One has to choose wisely before getting one of these (Marvell and Asmedia based ones are pretty safe).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: karloff on Dec 01, 2012 at 09:46 AM
A lot of standalone SATA controller chips do not have support for Windows 8 at this point, however. One has to choose wisely before getting one of these (Marvell and Asmedia based ones are pretty safe).

if the card supports Win-7 sir. it will work in Win-8 because the CORE of Win-8 is practically the same as Win-7.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 01, 2012 at 09:48 AM
if the card supports Win-7 sir. practically it will work in Win-8 because the CORE of Win-8 is practically the same as Win-7.

It works, but I've experienced data corruption. Microsoft's upgrade advisor flags about this.

Microsoft revised Windows 8's file system components, and this might be the reason for the incompatibility with some Windows 7 storage drivers.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Dec 01, 2012 at 06:22 PM
just updated my htpc

Mobo.. asus p8h77m pro
CPU.... 3470 ivy bridge
Discrete Graphic card ... powercolor ati 7770
hopefully kayang kaya na ang splash pro with everything specially motion2 at maximum..

..anong magandang thermal paste n cpu cooler low profile lang medyo mataas temp ng other pc ko eh. ty
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 01, 2012 at 08:28 PM
Thanks guys! I think I am still used to the quite blu-ray player. Was actually weird because I did not notice any noise when I was using my old HTPC :)

Try to set cool and quiet of amd at bios.  ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: crazyhog on Dec 02, 2012 at 02:09 PM
s mga naka quad core and using Splash Pro,

may significant improvement ba ang Motion2 Ultra 1080p when enabled?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 02, 2012 at 03:09 PM
s mga naka quad core and using Splash Pro,

may significant improvement ba ang Motion2 Ultra 1080p when enabled?


In my experience di ko sabay na enable ang ultra and motion 2 parang sobrang bilis na pag sabay na naka enable yung dalawang features. Pero mas smooth talaga pag quad ang gamit mo using the ultra or motion 2.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: psychro on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Guys,

Need your inputs.  I will build my first htpc.

Here is what i'm thinking :

cpu     i3-3220  php4850                           
mobo  Gigabyte GA-H77N-WIFI ITX  php4700
ram    Geil Evo Veloce 8gb (4gbx2) ddr3 2133   php2600
HDD    W DIGITAL 2TB GREEN php4125
DVD    Lite-on iHas124 DVD-RW SATA  php880

Still looking for a nice cheap case :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:17 PM
Guys,

Need your inputs.  I will build my first htpc.

Here is what i'm thinking :

cpu     i3-3220  php4850                           
mobo  Gigabyte GA-H77N-WIFI ITX  php4700
ram    Geil Evo Veloce 8gb (4gbx2) ddr3 2133   php2600
HDD    W DIGITAL 2TB GREEN php4125
DVD    Lite-on iHas124 DVD-RW SATA  php880

Still looking for a nice cheap case :)

Why not check AMD A10-5800k you will have quadcore. AFAIK di pa din ganun kaganda ang IGP ng i3-3220.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:30 PM
ito brader ok kayang pang ht?

Processor:            AMD A10-5800K AMD Radeon HD 7660D                    PHP 5680
Motherboard:    Gigabyte F2A75M D3H FM2                                     PHP 2820
OS Drive:            Intel 330 Series 60gb sata3                                    PHP 2999
Memory:            Corsair Vengeance LP (Dual) (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)    PHP 2210 x2
Optical Drive:    ASUS 8X Blu-ray Drive Model BC-08B1ST
Case: ?    
Power Supply: ?    
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:35 PM
ito brader ok kayang pang ht?

Processor:            AMD A10-5800K AMD Radeon HD 7660D                    PHP 5680
Motherboard:    Gigabyte F2A75M D3H FM2                                     PHP 2820
OS Drive:            Intel 330 Series 60gb sata3                                    PHP 2999
Memory:            Corsair Vengeance LP (Dual) (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)    PHP 2210 x2
Optical Drive:    ASUS 8X Blu-ray Drive Model BC-08B1ST
Case: ?    
Power Supply: ?    

mATX form factor ang motherboard mo di ba? I suggest the Cooler Master Elite 361 (2.6k w/ 400W PSU, 1.6k w/o PSU) for case, and either the Antec VP450, FSP HEXA 500W, or the Seasonic M12 520W.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: psychro on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:39 PM
malakas sa kuryente a10-5800, kung meron lang locally available n a10-5700.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:40 PM
mATX form factor ang motherboard mo di ba? I suggest the Cooler Master Elite 361 (2.6k w/ 400W PSU, 1.6k w/o PSU) for case, and either the Antec VP450, FSP HEXA 500W, or the Seasonic M12 520W.

ok yang CM 361 ah pwedeng horizontal available ba locally? gusto ko sana mag modular psu ano bang ok ngayon na wallet friendly di nako updated sa mga pc parts e :D

malakas sa kuryente a10-5800, kung meron lang locally available n a10-5700.

ay malakas ba? ano bang pwede na one step lower?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:43 PM
ok yang CM 361 ah pwedeng horizontal available ba locally? gusto ko sana mag modular psu ano bang ok ngayon na wallet friendly di nako updated sa mga pc parts e :D

ay malakas ba? ano bang pwede na one step lower?

yes, available locally ang CM Elite 361. sa mga sinuggest kong psu, yung Seasonic ang modular. yun lang, may kamahalan.  :-\
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:45 PM
yes, available locally ang CM Elite 361. sa mga sinuggest kong psu, yung Seasonic ang modular. yun lang, may kamahalan.  :-\

link naman brader
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:49 PM
pm sent. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: psychro on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:49 PM
ok yang CM 361 ah pwedeng horizontal available ba locally? gusto ko sana mag modular psu ano bang ok ngayon na wallet friendly di nako updated sa mga pc parts e :D

ay malakas ba? ano bang pwede na one step lower?


a10-5700, kaso wala dito pinas. 

pwede naman ako magdagdag ng VC 7750 pero mas lower p din power consumption kesa
A10-5800.  yung nga lang 4.5k damage
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:57 PM

a10-5700, kaso wala dito pinas. 

pwede naman ako magdagdag ng VC 7750 pero mas lower p din power consumption kesa
A10-5800.  yung nga lang 4.5k damage

ung AMD A8 5600K ok kaya malaki ba ang difference nila?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 04, 2012 at 11:00 PM
yung A-series "K" version, unlocked din ata ala-Intel "K" version processor.  ::)  kung walang balak mag-overclock, just get the standard version. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 04, 2012 at 11:03 PM
yung A-series "K" version, unlocked din ata ala-Intel "K" version processor.  ::)  kung walang balak mag-overclock, just get the standard version. :)

ung may "K" lang available sa tpc pero parang malaki difference nila sa graphics
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: psychro on Dec 04, 2012 at 11:08 PM
mal
ung AMD A8 5600K ok kaya malaki ba ang difference nila?

medyo malaki sa performance pero maliit sa power consumption
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 11:11 PM
ito brader ok kayang pang ht?

Processor:            AMD A10-5800K AMD Radeon HD 7660D                    PHP 5680
Motherboard:    Gigabyte F2A75M D3H FM2                                     PHP 2820
OS Drive:            Intel 330 Series 60gb sata3                                    PHP 2999
Memory:            Corsair Vengeance LP (Dual) (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)    PHP 2210 x2
Optical Drive:    ASUS 8X Blu-ray Drive Model BC-08B1ST
Case: ?    
Power Supply: ?    

Ilang HDD ang ilalagay master? Kunin mo yung seasonic 520 semi modular @3k and mag Gskil ka na 2x4GB @2000.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: psychro on Dec 04, 2012 at 11:12 PM
check nyo to baka makatulong.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6347/amd-a10-5800k-a8-5600k-review-trinity-on-the-desktop-part-2
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Dec 04, 2012 at 11:13 PM
ASRock FM2-A75M-ITX. is this a good mobo for htpc with an a6 trinity?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Dec 05, 2012 at 12:35 AM
Hello mga boss. Paano po ba makukuha yung DTS or Dolby ng audio sa games?

HD4850 > HDMI > Pioneer VSX-1021 yung setup ko. For movies, Dts and Dolby na man.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 05, 2012 at 12:53 AM
Hello mga boss. Paano po ba makukuha yung DTS or Dolby ng audio sa games?

HD4850 > HDMI > Pioneer VSX-1021 yung setup ko. For movies, Dts and Dolby na man.

Games should stream multichannel PCM if they are multichannel. Dolby Digital Live and DTS Connect are unnecessary for this connection.

ASRock FM2-A75M-ITX. is this a good mobo for htpc with an a6 trinity?

That should be reasonably good for typical use.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 05, 2012 at 01:10 AM
ung may "K" lang available sa tpc pero parang malaki difference nila sa graphics

Just check my HTPC actual wattage consumption with 2x2TB samsung and 1TB WD green idle @40W and bluray playing 2D/3D 70-80W.  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: akrasul on Dec 05, 2012 at 02:56 AM
Get the lates A?MD A10-5800k it will surely beat the i3. I just tested my AMD 10-5700 65W get from amazon with battle filed 3 max settings yan mas stress pa kesa sa pag play ng movies pero walang kalag lag.  >:D >:D >:D

Processor: FM2 , A10-5800k - P5950.00
FM2 Asrock FM2A75M-ITX - 3850.00
GSkil 2x4GB - 2050
PSU - Seasonic 520W - 3100

SSD will add fast opening of file or programs but as they said at TPC when your software is running its like 7200rpm hdd already on the response.  ^-^ ^-^

MAX settings? Ultra BF3? looks unlikely...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 05, 2012 at 03:29 AM
ito brader ok kayang pang ht?

Processor:            AMD A10-5800K AMD Radeon HD 7660D                    PHP 5680
Motherboard:    Gigabyte F2A75M D3H FM2                                     PHP 2820
OS Drive:            Intel 330 Series 60gb sata3                                    PHP 2999
Memory:            Corsair Vengeance LP (Dual) (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)    PHP 2210 x2
Optical Drive:    ASUS 8X Blu-ray Drive Model BC-08B1ST
Case: ?    
Power Supply: ?    

Suggest ko get DDR3-1866 or better kung A10 build.

(http://media.bestofmicro.com/E/S/341380/original/mem%20wow%20average.png)

Going with DDR3-1866 can still yield a sizeable improvement over DDR3-1600 with GPU-intensive tasks (9.1% increase in frame rate in this case). Kung video only kaya naman ng DDR3-1600, but things do get snappier with fast and low latency memory sa most ng ganitong mga shared memory designs.

For the OS drive, you can get a value/mainstream 120/128GB SSD for <4k. It's a more comfortable size, and it's unlikely that there'd be a huge difference in performance for HTPC use.

Get a decent and quiet modular power supply if the budget permits, and a casing with ample space and airflow. Consider an aftermarket HSF if you want to keep noise down (unless you plan on underclocking/undervolting).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 05, 2012 at 06:27 AM
MAX settings? Ultra BF3? looks unlikely...

Basta ako yan actual experience ko.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 05, 2012 at 09:40 AM
Ilang HDD ang ilalagay master? Kunin mo yung seasonic 520 semi modular @3k and mag Gskil ka na 2x4GB @2000.

dalawang 3tb siguro, uy mura pala gskil thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: akrasul on Dec 05, 2012 at 09:50 AM
Basta ako yan actual experience ko.  >:D >:D

Full Resolution 1920x1080 and Ultra? Ano FPS?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 05, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Full Resolution 1920x1080 and Ultra? Ano FPS?

Baka naman kasi sa iyo yung lag sobrang OC mo saka baka naman hardcore gamer kasi FPS ka na nag babase sa akin kasi di naman ako nag babase sa FPS pero sa experience ko ala talaga lag. Casual gamer na lang kasi ako now pero yung lag naman wala talaga ako naexperience with my 51 inch 720p samsung. Di ko pa natext sa PJ ko natatamad kasi ako. Di kasi ako mahilig mag check sa FPS basta di lag ok na sa akin ang lag. Basta smooth play okay na yan. Iba iba naman kasi tayo ng experience sa lag and kung ano ung malag or hindi.   >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: akrasul on Dec 05, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Baka naman kasi sa iyo yung lag sobrang OC mo saka baka naman hardcore gamer kasi FPS ka na nag babase sa akin kasi di naman ako nag babase sa FPS pero sa experience ko ala talaga lag. Casual gamer na lang kasi ako now pero yung lag naman wala talaga ako naexperience with my 51 inch 720p samsung. Di ko pa natext sa PJ ko natatamad kasi ako. Di kasi ako mahilig mag check sa FPS basta di lag ok na sa akin ang lag. Basta smooth play okay na yan. Iba iba naman kasi tayo ng experience sa lag and kung ano ung malag or hindi.   >:D >:D

Ayt thanks for the clear up...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 05, 2012 at 10:33 AM
Baka naman kasi sa iyo yung lag sobrang OC mo saka baka naman hardcore gamer kasi FPS ka na nag babase sa akin kasi di naman ako nag babase sa FPS pero sa experience ko ala talaga lag. Casual gamer na lang kasi ako now pero yung lag naman wala talaga ako naexperience with my 51 inch 720p samsung. Di ko pa natext sa PJ ko natatamad kasi ako. Di kasi ako mahilig mag check sa FPS basta di lag ok na sa akin ang lag. Basta smooth play okay na yan. Iba iba naman kasi tayo ng experience sa lag and kung ano ung malag or hindi.   >:D >:D

hindi ba nagrereply ung PJ mo ?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: psychro on Dec 05, 2012 at 10:38 AM
@xrampage, ano setup ng htpc mo?

ano power consumption in these conditions:
surfing
torrent/downloading
movies 1080p

tnx!
this will help me a lot in building.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: akrasul on Dec 05, 2012 at 10:40 AM
hindi ba nagrereply ung PJ mo ?
lol
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 05, 2012 at 03:27 PM
hindi ba nagrereply ung PJ mo ?

Loko ka typo error un test un sister kaw tinira mo na naman ako.   :'( :'(

Ayt thanks for the clear up...

Di kasi ako ma OC sa FPS but i know what is laggy and not a laggy i also play online games.  ^-^ ^-^

@xrampage, ano setup ng htpc mo?

ano power consumption in these conditions:
surfing
torrent/downloading
movies 1080p

tnx!
this will help me a lot in building.

I dont use my setup as torrent and surfing I only use for movie marathon and the power consumption is already posted above.  ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 05, 2012 at 04:39 PM
hindi ba nagrereply ung PJ mo ?

Wahahaha!!! Sakit na tyan ko kakatawa... Wahahahaha!!!
I lab u guys ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 05, 2012 at 04:45 PM
Wahahaha!!! Sakit na tyan ko kakatawa... Wahahahaha!!!
I lab u guys ;D
hahaha...hindi nya daw natext e......

LOL

kung ako tinext nyan magrereply ako... >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 05, 2012 at 05:19 PM
Suggest ko get DDR3-1866 or better kung A10 build.

(http://media.bestofmicro.com/E/S/341380/original/mem%20wow%20average.png)

Going with DDR3-1866 can still yield a sizeable improvement over DDR3-1600 with GPU-intensive tasks (9.1% increase in frame rate in this case). Kung video only kaya naman ng DDR3-1600, but things do get snappier with fast and low latency memory sa most ng ganitong mga shared memory designs.

For the OS drive, you can get a value/mainstream 120/128GB SSD for <4k. It's a more comfortable size, and it's unlikely that there'd be a huge difference in performance for HTPC use.

Get a decent and quiet modular power supply if the budget permits, and a casing with ample space and airflow. Consider an aftermarket HSF if you want to keep noise down (unless you plan on underclocking/undervolting).

will a DDR3-1866 with cl9 latency be good enough? wala ako plan mag dedicated videocard e
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 05, 2012 at 06:43 PM
will a DDR3-1866 with cl9 latency be good enough? wala ako plan mag dedicated videocard e

Actually yung akon is 1600 CL9 lang.  >:D  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 05, 2012 at 10:46 PM
will a DDR3-1866 with cl9 latency be good enough? wala ako plan mag dedicated videocard e

Yep, DDR3-1866 CL9 should be okay. Medyo mataas na din kasi price ng CL8 and lower.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 05, 2012 at 11:52 PM
thanks check ko na lang availability
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Dec 06, 2012 at 12:09 AM
Is there any fm2 85x microatx board available locally?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 06, 2012 at 08:24 AM
thanks check ko na lang availability

You're welcome. Check out the clearance of the case you're intending to buy din to see if you can fit in a quiet cooler. Mas madali kasi yung isang buo na lang, than to dismantle again later on when you realize that the supplied one is too loud for you.

I suggest getting a 130W or 150W TDP capable cooler (these are normally fairly large), para maski full load pwedeng tumatakbo lang at low rpms. Remember that the same cooler has to dissipate heat from both the CPU and the GPU. This will give you some headroom din, in case you'd like to push the clock rate up later on.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 06, 2012 at 01:09 PM
im planning to use a self-contained liquid cooler pero i cant find any for fm2, will the fm1 cooler work with fm2?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 06, 2012 at 01:47 PM
im planning to use a self-contained liquid cooler pero i cant find any for fm2, will the fm1 cooler work with fm2?

Yup. A waterblock that has FM1 mounts would very likely fit on an FM2 motherboard.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: akrasul on Dec 06, 2012 at 02:04 PM
Yup. A waterblock that has FM1 mounts would very likely fit on an FM2 motherboard.

Most Waterblocks suppport FM1 and FM2, I would recommend Corsair or Antec
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: akrasul on Dec 06, 2012 at 02:11 PM
Baka naman kasi sa iyo yung lag sobrang OC mo saka baka naman hardcore gamer kasi FPS ka na nag babase sa akin kasi di naman ako nag babase sa FPS pero sa experience ko ala talaga lag. Casual gamer na lang kasi ako now pero yung lag naman wala talaga ako naexperience with my 51 inch 720p samsung. Di ko pa natext sa PJ ko natatamad kasi ako. Di kasi ako mahilig mag check sa FPS basta di lag ok na sa akin ang lag. Basta smooth play okay na yan. Iba iba naman kasi tayo ng experience sa lag and kung ano ung malag or hindi.   >:D >:D

Just for anyone who might mistake that A10-5800K as adequate to bring out the best out of battlefield 3, it is not. Best to use a dedicated Video card to max out the game. Battlefield 3 is one of the most demanding games in the PC market, thus atleast a GTX 560 or AMD 6850 will be need at full resolution
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 06, 2012 at 08:18 PM
Yup. A waterblock that has FM1 mounts would very likely fit on an FM2 motherboard.


Most Waterblocks suppport FM1 and FM2, I would recommend Corsair or Antec

thanks, i might get corsair H60 if its quiet enough
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 06, 2012 at 09:49 PM
I'll probably get this as my blu-ray player:
http://www.sony-optiarc.eu/products/retaildrives/bdxs500u.html (http://www.sony-optiarc.eu/products/retaildrives/bdxs500u.html)

reason?:
1. I can use it on my htpc, laptop, and desktop.
2. So I can use all my htpc's SATA ports for hard drives!  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 06, 2012 at 11:51 PM
thanks, i might get corsair H60 if its quiet enough

Corsair waterblocks are fairly quiet if they're running okay (no air and good condition), imo. I heard a lot are RMA'd though because of a high defect rate (grinding sound). You also may want to supply your own fans (Corsair fans don't usually have the quietest bearings).

If you can have the unit plugged-in at the store for noise testing, that'd be great.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 07, 2012 at 10:28 AM
brader ivan -
whats the cheapest reliable 60-80gb SSD?
i want to use SSD ...
kahit used bilhin ko lang to try out the diff.....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 07, 2012 at 12:03 PM
brader ivan -
whats the cheapest reliable 60-80gb SSD?
i want to use SSD ...
kahit used bilhin ko lang to try out the diff.....


Mag WD black ka na lang.

Just for anyone who might mistake that A10-5800K as adequate to bring out the best out of battlefield 3, it is not. Best to use a dedicated Video card to max out the game. Battlefield 3 is one of the most demanding games in the PC market, thus atleast a GTX 560 or AMD 6850 will be need at full resolution

May kanya kanya naman kasi tayo ng tingin sa gaming experience for me kasi naka max settings in 51 inch 720p and no lag na experience. As i said baka naman kasi lag na sinasabi niyo is basis niyo is the FPS na sa akin kasi i don't base on FPS basta di naman humihinto ung player ko puwede na alam ko naman din ang lag sa in game kasi nag oonline games din ako. Di ko din sinabi na the best yung experience ko basta for me as a casual gamer i my experience with my A10-5700 no lag and okay na un. may hard core gamer ka baka yun no lag sa akin eh malag na sa inyo. Sabi ko nga i built my pc mostlty for HTPC not for hard core gaming. I'm happy na wala lag sa BF3 yung A10 ko in my gaming experience for a max settings. >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: akrasul on Dec 07, 2012 at 01:16 PM
Mag WD black ka na lang.

May kanya kanya naman kasi tayo ng tingin sa gaming experience for me kasi naka max settings in 51 inch 720p and no lag na experience. As i said baka naman kasi lag na sinasabi niyo is basis niyo is the FPS na sa akin kasi i don't base on FPS basta di naman humihinto ung player ko puwede na alam ko naman din ang lag sa in game kasi nag oonline games din ako. Di ko din sinabi na the best yung experience ko basta for me as a casual gamer i my experience with my A10-5700 no lag and okay na un. may hard core gamer ka baka yun no lag sa akin eh malag na sa inyo. Sabi ko nga i built my pc mostlty for HTPC not for hard core gaming. I'm happy na wala lag sa BF3 yung A10 ko in my gaming experience for a max settings. >:D >:D

Ok, for me kasi the same passion you guys take into home theater, I have for gaming and computers, enthusiast eh. So to me its like saying a htib is as good as a proper home theater setup, because it produces enough sound and has bass or that a regular 480p movie is as good as a 1080p, or that an mp3 codecs is as good as dts-HD etc. There is a difference, that is why we need benchmarks and comparisons. In gaming there is a huge difference between constant 60 fps and 30fps, it a difference that the eye can see, specially in an action packed game lack BF 3 in which constant motion is at a work.  That is why we have the need to upgrade our systems. I'm not here to argue, just voicing that A10 alone is not good enough to play BF3 at max settings, and max settings being  1920x1080, with all the bells and whistles (ultra setting, Max Aliasing etc.). It will barely handle it a low settings at full resolution. I just feel that the statement "Kaya ng A10 and BF3 at max setting" can lead people to false expectations.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 07, 2012 at 01:58 PM
Corsair waterblocks are fairly quiet if they're running okay (no air and good condition), imo. I heard a lot are RMA'd though because of a high defect rate (grinding sound). You also may want to supply your own fans (Corsair fans don't usually have the quietest bearings).

If you can have the unit plugged-in at the store for noise testing, that'd be great.

thanks for the tip brader
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 07, 2012 at 06:41 PM
brader ivan -
whats the cheapest reliable 60-80gb SSD?
i want to use SSD ...
kahit used bilhin ko lang to try out the diff.....


Based on limited market data, it seems like Samsung and Intel make the most reliable mass-market SSDs. Crucial also has very good statistics.

I've also had good experiences with Kingston and OCZ (I was lucky enough not to get their fault-prone models).

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 07, 2012 at 08:58 PM
brader ivan -
whats the cheapest reliable 60-80gb SSD?
i want to use SSD ...
kahit used bilhin ko lang to try out the diff.....


get an Intel SSD. also comes with a 3.5" to 2.5" adapter. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Dec 08, 2012 at 01:45 AM
lagi galit tao sa ocz sa forums..
swerte lang siguro kami ni stagea.. ok naman ocz namin..

im using 60gb ocz on htpc (soon to be replaced kingston 120... hihihi)
120 extreme on notebook (ang bilis)

parang sulit yata ngayon... 120gb exteme 3999 lang sa pchub..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 08, 2012 at 03:24 AM
lagi galit tao sa ocz sa forums..
swerte lang siguro kami ni stagea.. ok naman ocz namin..

I agree. I think OCZ's getting better. Madami kasi silang failure-prone or defective na models before.

Kingston made one bad model which happened to sell very well, kaya ayun nasira reputation. Their other models have good reliability numbers pa naman.

Sandisk SSDs are priced very well, and I'm thinking of trying one. I'm also intrigued by TLC NAND flash storage, as I think that there is future in it (so the Samsung 840 is something that I'd probably tinker with as well).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 08, 2012 at 10:38 PM
I have finally setup my HTPC with the specifications below.

Proc: AMD A10-5700 with HD7660G iGPU
Mobo: Asus FM2 MAtx Entry level
Memory: Gskil 2x4GB
HDD: 2x4TB Samsung F4 and 1x1TB wD Black
PSU: Seasonic 520Watts
Case: Silverstone HTPC CAse

There is a tweak on the AMD software that you can lower down the processor CPU speed at 1.4MHz

Actual Usage

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/amd-1.png)
AMD A10 1.4MHz
Idle
4x2TB Samsung F4, 1x1TB WD Black and 3x120MM Fan @57Watts

Load
Bluray 2D
4x1TB WD Black,1x2TB Samsung F4 and 3x120MM Fan @78Watts

Bluray 3D
4x1TB WD Black,1x2TB Samsung F4 and 3x120MM Fan @79Watts

Splash Pro Ultra Motion and Motion 2(5) enable 1080p Remux
4x1TB WD Black,1x2TB Samsung F4 and 3x120MM Fan @81Watts

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/amd34-1.png)
AMD A10 3.4MHz

Idle
4x2TB Samsung F4, 1x1TB WD Black and 3x120MM Fan @80Watts

Load
Bluray 2D
4x1TB WD Black,1x2TB Samsung F4 and 3x120MM Fan @95Watts

Bluray 3D
1x1TB WD Black and 3x120MM Fan @65Watts
4x1TB WD Black,1x2TB Samsung F4 and 3x120MM Fan @96Watts

Splash Pro Ultra Motion and Motion 2(5) enable 1080p Remux
4x1TB WD Black,1x2TB Samsung F4 and 3x120MM Fan @110Watts

Before my AMD A10-5700k HTPC build i have the G620 2.6GHz 32NM 65Watts Load @110Watts.

Mobo Asus MATX LGA1155
Intel G620 2.6GHz
2x2GB Memory
2.5 320GB HDD
Corsair 500Watts PSU
Video Card: HD7550
Lian Li MATX Case
Veris Remote for HTPC

Idle: 80Watts
Load: 110Watts+
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 08, 2012 at 11:02 PM
I have finally setup my HTPC with the specifications below.

Proc: AMD A10-5700 with HD7660G iGPU
Mobo: Asus FM2 MAtx Entry level
Memory: Gskil 2x4GB
HDD: 2x4TB Samsung F4 and 1x1TB wD Black
PSU: Seasonic 520Watts
Case: Silverstone HTPC CAse


brader anong mobo yan and san available? mas gusto ko din asus e
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 08, 2012 at 11:54 PM
brader anong mobo yan and san available? mas gusto ko din asus e

Brader available kay pchub as per post nila Asus F2A55-M LK PLUS MATX @3380.00.

(http://www.asus.com/websites/global/products/lpyiGWIZ6OxDIvCI/P_500.jpg)

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_Socket_FM2/F2A55M_LK_PLUS/ (http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_Socket_FM2/F2A55M_LK_PLUS/)

Yung kasing sa akin sa amazon binili Asus F2A85-M MATX mas mahal ng kaunti ung sa akin nasa 4k+.

(http://img.canadacomputers.com/ProductImages/053/053260/90105.jpg)

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_Socket_FM2/F2A85M/ (http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_Socket_FM2/F2A85M/)

Ano ba build ang plan mo?  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Dec 09, 2012 at 03:04 AM
Ano mas ok? Amd trinity A6 o intel core i3 2120? For htpc use.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Dec 09, 2012 at 04:31 AM
Ano mas ok? Amd trinity A6 o intel core i3 2120? For htpc use.
pure htpc no multitasking?
A6 ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:03 AM
Ano mas ok? Amd trinity A6 o intel core i3 2120? For htpc use.

Get an A6 with HD7xxx iGPU its better than i3. I3 has a HD3000 and A6 has HD7xxx series iGPU FM2 up to 2GB memory on the iGPU.  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:20 AM
pure htpc no multitasking?
A6 ;)
yep htpc and lil bit of surfing. i think amd trinity would suffice.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:25 AM
elms@ kaya want ko itry ung ssd
kasi gamit kong hd sa pc ko 80gb maxtor year 2005 pa to ....medyo mabagal.baka pagnapalitan e bumilis...hihihi...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:29 AM
elms@ kaya want ko itry ung ssd
kasi gamit kong hd sa pc ko 80gb maxtor year 2005 pa to ....medyo mabagal.baka pagnapalitan e bumilis...hihihi...

Bibilis lang loading/opening ng files niyan like mo test natin ang 1TB ko na WD black pag naka open na yung file or software same na yan ng 7200rpm. Pero ikaw bahala kasi yung iGPU mo 512mb lang yan ang culprit sa HTPC mo atleast sana 1GB man lang.   >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:31 AM
Bibilis lang loading/opening ng files niyan like mo test natin ang 1TB ko na WD black pag naka open na yung file or software same na yan ng 7200rpm. Pero ikaw bahala kasi yung iGPU mo 512mb lang yan ang culprit sa HTPC mo atleast sana 1GB man lang.   >:D >:D
hindi ko muna gagamitin na htpc to..para sa kwarto lang pc ni misis at ng anak ko
kapag may budget na bili nalang ako ng another hd - crossfire or ung 7series hihi
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:37 AM
hindi ko muna gagamitin na htpc to..para sa kwarto lang pc ni misis at ng anak ko
kapag may budget na bili nalang ako ng another hd - crossfire or ung 7series hihi

Wag na HD mag crossfire ka na lang or yet HD7xxx low profile.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:37 AM
Wag na HD mag crossfire ka na lang or yet HD7xxx low profile.
yep natypo...another vc un haha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:38 AM
mga guru, question lang po. currently i have a htpc with the ff specs:

amd x2 3600+ socket am2
emaxx mobo
8600gt gpu
1.5gb ram

ok naman sya but may occasional lags lang with xbmc menu pero sa playback no problems. ok lang ba if dagdagan ko nalang muna ang rams instead of doing an upgrade? if upgrade naman plano ko trinity pero right now wala pa allocated budget kasi uunahin ko muna yung tv para sa room.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:39 AM
mga guru, question lang po. currently i have a htpc with the ff specs:

amd x2 3600+ socket am2
emaxx mobo
8600gt gpu
1.5gb ram

ok naman sya but may occasional lags lang with xbmc menu pero sa playback no problems. ok lang ba if dagdagan ko nalang muna ang rams instead of doing an upgrade? if upgrade naman plano ko trinity pero right now wala pa allocated budget kasi uunahin ko muna yung tv para sa room.
kung walang 3d playback ram idagdag mo
how much power consumption nya?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:42 AM
mga guru, question lang po. currently i have a htpc with the ff specs:

amd x2 3600+ socket am2
emaxx mobo
8600gt gpu
1.5gb ram

ok naman sya but may occasional lags lang with xbmc menu pero sa playback no problems. ok lang ba if dagdagan ko nalang muna ang rams instead of doing an upgrade? if upgrade naman plano ko trinity pero right now wala pa allocated budget kasi uunahin ko muna yung tv para sa room.

Puwede pero bat 1.5Gb ram mo isang 1GB and 512mb? Kung pag dual channel yung mobo better get a dual channel memory to have a good combination.  ;) ;) ;)

kung walang 3d playback ram idagdag mo
how much power consumption nya?

Mataas pa power consumption niyan kasi mga lumang pc parts pa.  O0
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Dec 09, 2012 at 09:36 AM
yep 1gb and 512mb..bale kase mga spare parts lang yan dito sa bahay na nakatambak at binuo ko lang..di ko alam kung mataas ba power consumption pero ok lang..mas malakas pa kumain yung main rig ko na halos 24hrs bukas.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 09, 2012 at 10:31 AM
hindi ko muna gagamitin na htpc to..para sa kwarto lang pc ni misis at ng anak ko
kapag may budget na bili nalang ako ng another hd - crossfire or ung 7series hihi

Try running GPU-Z during video playback. That way makikita mo kung graphics adapter ang bottleneck mo during playback. It can also help you optimize the amount of post-processing that your system can handle.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 09, 2012 at 12:17 PM
Try running GPU-Z during video playback. That way makikita mo kung graphics adapter ang bottleneck mo during playback. It can also help you optimize the amount of post-processing that your system can handle.

thank you brader ..download ko nga...
cpu z lang alam ko ..may gpu z din pala haha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 09, 2012 at 01:33 PM
thank you brader ..download ko nga...
cpu z lang alam ko ..may gpu z din pala haha

You're welcome. Your GPU should be able to handle video quite well when configured properly, as long as you go easy on post-processing (granted that your playback software/decoder takes proper advantage of Avivo).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 09, 2012 at 01:34 PM
You're welcome. Your GPU should be able to handle video quite well when configured properly, as long as you go easy on post-processing (granted that your playback software/decoder takes proper advantage of Avivo).

saan ko makikita ung bottle neck brader ivan?
nakikita ko kung ilan ung mb na nagagamit ng buil in gpu

any other specific details i need to check?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 09, 2012 at 01:38 PM
saan ko makikita ung bottle neck brader ivan?
nakikita ko kung ilan ung mb na nagagamit ng buil in gpu

any other specific details i need to check?

Check GPU load. If it's close to 100%, magdrop yan ng frames or babagal ang playback depende sa software na gamit.

Disabling post-processing features under "Video Quality" in Vision Engine Control Center and adjusting the deinterlacing mode should reduce GPU utilization. Disabling advanced video color controls under "Video Color" also help somewhat, if in a squeeze. It's a balancing act, but chances are you'd find a good compromise.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:09 PM
saan ko makikita ung bottle neck brader ivan?
nakikita ko kung ilan ung mb na nagagamit ng buil in gpu

any other specific details i need to check?

Mag spike yan ung HD7660 nga nag spike sa 80% naka 2GB na yun. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:29 PM
hindi nagspike ung gpu ko....gang 20percent lang 200mb usage...

play ako later ng mga 3d etc....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 10, 2012 at 03:22 AM
Mag spike yan ung HD7660 nga nag spike sa 80% naka 2GB na yun. 

hindi nagspike ung gpu ko....gang 20percent lang 200mb usage...

play ako later ng mga 3d etc....


Hindi naman masyado memory-intensive ang video playback, unless you render many frames ahead. Ang matakaw sa video memory is textures, ang video wala naman textures generally.

Pwede siyang maging shader-intensive depending on the software used and the file format. Possible na with one file mataas ang gpu utilization, and with another mababa. GPU-accelerated post-processing is also shader-intensive for the most part, kaya pwedeng bawasan kapag kinakapos yung shader performance ng GPU.

Play mo yung files na nagkakaproblem ka with GPU-accelerated software. If your GPU utilization stays low, check mo CPU utilization mo sa task manager to see kug CPU-limited ka. If mababa both, baka software configuration problem or iba pa.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 10, 2012 at 03:26 AM
brader ivan anung player gamit mo sa htpc? thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 10, 2012 at 03:33 AM
brader ivan anung player gamit mo sa htpc? thanks

PowerDVD 12 Ultra more often than not, Splash Pro EX 1.13.1 paminsan.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 10, 2012 at 03:42 AM
PowerDVD 12 Ultra more often than not, Splash Pro EX 1.13.1 paminsan.
laggers ako minsan sa powerdvd 12 pero hindi ata ultra

ung arcsoft..smooth playing ako dun...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 10, 2012 at 06:56 AM
laggers ako minsan sa powerdvd 12 pero hindi ata ultra

ung arcsoft..smooth playing ako dun...

Yung lag is it only for audio sync or pati yung video mabagal? HDMI audio and video connection yan? Is hardware acceleration enabled? Single screen ba gamit mo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 10, 2012 at 07:00 AM
Yung lag is it only for audio sync or pati yung video mabagal? HDMI audio and video connection yan? Is hardware acceleration enabled? Single screen ba gamit mo?

kapag 2d no problems wiht audio and video - may times lang na sa start medyo laggish hehe
sa 3d nun nagtest kami connected sa projector ni louie naglalag ung video...

ang arte ko 2nd playback lang naman ako haha...
gusto ko lang malaman ung best settings for specific players and sa gpu

player what setting to select
GPU what setting to select
windows 7
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 10, 2012 at 02:05 PM
kapag 2d no problems wiht audio and video - may times lang na sa start medyo laggish hehe
sa 3d nun nagtest kami connected sa projector ni louie naglalag ung video...

ang arte ko 2nd playback lang naman ako haha...
gusto ko lang malaman ung best settings for specific players and sa gpu

player what setting to select
GPU what setting to select
windows 7


Llano lacks hardware MVC decode, but it should still be powerful enough for 3D video playback.
Try disabling all post-processing features sa Control Center under Video Color and Video Quality then select Bob or Weave for deinterlacing. Tweaking the 3D Application settings can also help if you're running short of shader performance.

Were you using a Bluray for this? Under PowerDVD, did you select HDMI 1.4 enabled 3D TV and Enable Hardware Acceleration?

Similar lang ng CPU and GPU load ang Arcsoft TMT at Cyberlink PowerDVD normally (granted similar ang settings), though slower-loading ang PowerDVD since bigger program siya (mas matakaw din ng konti sa RAM). Disable mo din scanning ng media ng PowerDVD baka nagscan sa background kaya bumabagal playback mo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 11, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Sharing my HTPC setup for 2012

Low end Gigabyte AMD Athlon 3.0 GH (just fine for 1080p movies, no gaming)
Powerlogic 550 w PSU
8 GB RAM running 64-bit Windows 7 Enterprise (no planned upgrades for Win 8 for the next 12 mos)
Low end GE Force graphics card
couple of 500 Gb HDD from Western and Seagate and an external 750 Gb from Western
couple of monitors:  29" Changhong and 20" LG
250w Acurus stereo power amp
Rotel pre-amp
Mordaunt-Short speakers

Have been completely on HTPC for the last 3 years, routing my once dedicated multichannel system to it. Now using just two channels and a sub.   This setup was from my 2nd upgrade last year with just a recent upgrade to one of the monitors.  Have not bought a single CD or DVD since, all HD movies and music from online sources ;D


(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u677/alex_lim1/DSCF8433.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Dec 11, 2012 at 12:10 PM
Sharing my HTPC setup for 2012

Low end Gigabyte AMD Athlon 3.0 GH (just fine for 1080p movies, no gaming)
Powerlogic 550 w PSU
8 GB RAM running 64-bit Windows 7 Enterprise (no planned upgrades for Win 8 for the next 12 mos)
Low end GE Force graphics card
couple of 500 Gb HDD from Western and Seagate and an external 750 Gb from Western
couple of monitors:  29" Changhong and 20" LG
250w Acurus stereo power amp
Rotel pre-amp
Mordaunt-Short speakers

Have been completely on HTPC for the last 3 years, routing my once dedicated multichannel system to it. Now using just two channels and a sub.   This setup was from my 2nd upgrade last year with just a recent upgrade to one of the monitors.  Have not bought a single CD or DVD since, all HD movies and music from online sources ;D


(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u677/alex_lim1/DSCF8433.jpg)

sir magkano yang changhong 29"? full hd res ba?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 11, 2012 at 02:41 PM
sir magkano yang changhong 29"? full hd res ba?

That 29" changhong LED was on sale for P13,500 at SM appliance.  It's full HD, I could configure it to 1080p at 60htz just like my older 1080p Philips 22"  What attracted me to it was the thin bezel. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 11, 2012 at 09:44 PM
something worth considering to any htpc build/ setup:
http://pcx.com.ph/asus-blu-ray-combo-drive.html (http://pcx.com.ph/asus-blu-ray-combo-drive.html)  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 11, 2012 at 10:27 PM
something worth considering to any htpc build/ setup:
http://pcx.com.ph/asus-blu-ray-combo-drive.html (http://pcx.com.ph/asus-blu-ray-combo-drive.html)  ;)

Kung ang HTPC mo 5.25 bay parang mas maganda pa din na naka internal saka bluray writer na din siya not just combo drive.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 12, 2012 at 10:44 AM
Kung ang HTPC mo 5.25 bay parang mas maganda pa din na naka internal saka bluray writer na din siya not just combo drive.

sayang ang SATA port. sa hard disk na lang gamitin. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 12, 2012 at 10:52 AM
badtrip most of the budget laptops with windows 8 only have 1 usb 3.0 slot :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 12, 2012 at 10:57 AM
badtrip most of the budget laptops with windows 8 only have 1 usb 3.0 slot :(

buti na lang may 2x USB 3.0 ang MSI GE620DX ko. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 12, 2012 at 11:02 AM
sayang ang SATA port. sa hard disk na lang gamitin. ;D

Madami paraan para mag kasata port pa puwede mag add ng sata port pcie Which i will do my 10x HDD kasi most ng mobo now has a 7 sata port so i need 3 more sata port. Kaya matx din kinuha ko na board and HTPC case para sa additional na sata port for pcie.  >:D >:D

(http://digitalsushi.co.za/image/cache/data/products-pcmac-expansion-cards/lian-li-ib-01-5-port-sata-3-1-port-esata-expansion-card-pci-express-x1-ib-01-600x600.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Dec 12, 2012 at 01:00 PM
ok lang ba gumamit for pc ng lcd/led monitors 26-29" na hd ready lang(1366x768)? or masyadong mababa nang mababa ang res? thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 12, 2012 at 02:06 PM
ok lang ba gumamit for pc ng lcd/led monitors 26-29" na hd ready lang(1366x768)? or masyadong mababa nang mababa ang res? thanks!

Pwede naman, pero bihira ata ang PC monitors na ganyan kababa ang resolution sa size na yan (unless TV ang sinasabi mo).

Noticeable na ang pixels sa ganyan kababang resolution pag malapit at ganyan kalaki ang screen, but if you don't mind eh walang kaso.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 12, 2012 at 11:08 PM
Brader available kay pchub as per post nila Asus F2A55-M LK PLUS MATX @3380.00.

(http://www.asus.com/websites/global/products/lpyiGWIZ6OxDIvCI/P_500.jpg)

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_Socket_FM2/F2A55M_LK_PLUS/ (http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_Socket_FM2/F2A55M_LK_PLUS/)

Yung kasing sa akin sa amazon binili Asus F2A85-M MATX mas mahal ng kaunti ung sa akin nasa 4k+.

(http://img.canadacomputers.com/ProductImages/053/053260/90105.jpg)

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_Socket_FM2/F2A85M/ (http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_Socket_FM2/F2A85M/)

Ano ba build ang plan mo?  ;) ;)

mas maganda yang mobo mo 4 slot ng ram

eto sana plan ko pero wala ako mahanap na asus mobo

Processor            AMD A10-5800K AMD Radeon HD 7660D                   PHP 5680
Motherboard    Gigabyte F2A75M D3H FM2                                    PHP 2820
OS Drive            Intel 330 Series 60gb sata3                                   PHP 2999
Memory            Corsair Vengeance LP (Dual) (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)   PHP 2210 x2
Optical Drives    ASUS 8X Blu-ray Drive Model BC-08B1ST
Case                    Coolermaster Elite 361                                          PHP 2600
Power Supply    Seasonic (M12II) 520watts 80PLUS Bronze               PHP 3100

wala bang Asus F2A85-M MATX sa pinas?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Dec 13, 2012 at 05:23 AM
ano silbi ng igp kung apu ang gagamitin?
Xfire?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 13, 2012 at 05:58 AM
ano silbi ng igp kung apu ang gagamitin?
Xfire?

Do you mean kung dedicated GPU ang gagamitin?

Current Intel (HD Graphics models) and AMD (Fusion models) APUs are essentially CPU + GMCH in one. The IGP is part of the GMCH.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Dec 13, 2012 at 02:18 PM
Okay po ba gamitin yung Inno3D GTX 560 for htpc? Using HDMI for both audio and video. Does it support DTS HD MA and Dolby TrueHD? Thanks.

Im currently using HD 4850. Dts and dolby lang.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 13, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Okay po ba gamitin yung Inno3D GTX 560 for htpc? Using HDMI for both audio and video. Does it support DTS HD MA and Dolby TrueHD? Thanks.

Im currently using HD 4850. Dts and dolby lang.

Yes, it'd more than do the job. If you're yet to buy, consider getting newer models (Geforce 600 series or Radeon HD 7000 series).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 13, 2012 at 07:40 PM
Quote
wala bang Asus F2A85-M MATX sa pinas?

Wala sa asus ph yan model na yan brader kaya sa amazon ako ako nag pabili.  ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 13, 2012 at 07:43 PM
Okay po ba gamitin yung Inno3D GTX 560 for htpc? Using HDMI for both audio and video. Does it support DTS HD MA and Dolby TrueHD? Thanks.

Im currently using HD 4850. Dts and dolby lang.

it's okay if you also plan to use your htpc as a gaming rig. be warned though, your power consumption will be a bit high.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Dec 13, 2012 at 10:56 PM
Thank you mga boss. Yup, it's my HTPC/gaming rig po.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Dec 13, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Wala sa asus ph yan model na yan brader kaya sa amazon ako ako nag pabili.  ^-^ ^-^

mukhang tatakbo nako ulit kay brader anya :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 14, 2012 at 01:27 AM
Thank you mga boss. Yup, it's my HTPC/gaming rig po.

Consider the GTX 660 or the HD 7870 for the performance and image quality improvement, if they fit your budget. If not, the GTX 560 should serve your needs just fine.

Both the GTX 660 and HD 7870 deliver GTX 570 (and often better) performance with significantly improved power consumption/thermals.

(http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6276/49754.png)
(http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6276/49739.png)
(http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6276/49745.png)

The HD 7870 2GB costs as little as 8k nowadays.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 14, 2012 at 10:24 PM
@all

kaya ba ang AMD E-350 mag-play ng 3D content? (blu-ray, download, etc) I'm thinking of using my Manli T2 nettop (AMD E-350, 4GB DDR3, 500GB) as a media player. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 15, 2012 at 07:36 AM
@all

kaya ba ang AMD E-350 mag-play ng 3D content? (blu-ray, download, etc) I'm thinking of using my Manli T2 nettop (AMD E-350, 4GB DDR3, 500GB) as a media player. 

No. It's technically possible to make it output in 3D, but it lacks the performance to handle 3D playback of most formats.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Dec 15, 2012 at 09:53 AM
No. It's technically possible to make it output in 3D, but it lacks the performance to handle 3D playback of most formats.

you're right: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-e-350_11.html (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-e-350_11.html)  AMD Brazos can handle most formats EXCEPT for 3D. :(  oh well, I guess I really have to build a new htpc for 3D playback.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 15, 2012 at 09:56 AM
you're right: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-e-350_11.html (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-e-350_11.html)  AMD Brazos can handle most formats EXCEPT for 3D. :(  oh well, I guess I really have to build a new htpc for 3D playback.

Actually i have that setup before intel then amd and even remux can't play decent with E350 lalo na yung high bitrate and big size.  ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Dec 15, 2012 at 10:34 AM
@xtrampage..sir question lang po...pede po malaman yun temps ng cpu nyo with/without load....meron kasi me nabasa nagkakaproblem sila sa temps bg trinity...thx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 17, 2012 at 04:01 PM
@xtrampage..sir question lang po...pede po malaman yun temps ng cpu nyo with/without load....meron kasi me nabasa nagkakaproblem sila sa temps bg trinity...thx

Load nasa 40 and idle nasa 35. Note that this is the 65W model not the 100W. I believe the issue is within the 100W as they are OC version.

Some issue with powerdvd and TMT they are now cinavia certified. I will try corel windvd as this is the second bluray player on the top 1st-DVD, 2nd-Windvd 3rd-TMT and 4th-DVDFab Media Player.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: beeds on Dec 28, 2012 at 05:34 AM
Hi po, ngayon pa lang po ako na expose sa mundo ng pag setup ng HT at interesado po ako magbuo balang araw. Habang nagiipon pa po ako, plano ko po gawin HTPC yung PC ko at ikakabit ko lang po ung 46" led TV na pinag iipunan ko pa din sa ngayon :)

Ito po specs ng PC ko:

mobo: MSI 880 GMA-E45
proc: AMD X6 1090T 3.2ghz
RAM: TeamElite DDR3 1333mhz
Graphics: Sapphire 6850 1GB DDR5
audio: built-in sound card
Power supply: HEC Cougar CMX 750W
Speakers: Logitech X-530

Ano po mga limitations sa ganitong setup in terms of viewing and listening experience? Ano pa po pwede ko gawin para ma maximize ko ung capability ng PC ko ngayon(in terms of audio/video)?

Thanks po!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 28, 2012 at 05:42 AM
Hi po, ngayon pa lang po ako na expose sa mundo ng pag setup ng HT at interesado po ako magbuo balang araw. Habang nagiipon pa po ako, plano ko po gawin HTPC yung PC ko at ikakabit ko lang po ung 46" led TV na pinag iipunan ko pa din sa ngayon :)

Ito po specs ng PC ko:

mobo: MSI 880 GMA-E45
proc: AMD X6 1090T 3.2ghz
RAM: TeamElite DDR3 1333mhz
Graphics: Sapphire 6850 1GB DDR5
audio: built-in sound card
Power supply: HEC Cougar CMX 750W
Speakers: Logitech X-530

Ano po mga limitations sa ganitong setup in terms of viewing and listening experience? Ano pa po pwede ko gawin para ma maximize ko ung capability ng PC ko ngayon(in terms of audio/video)?

Thanks po!


That's good enough for HTPC use. :) Consider getting a BD drive if you'd like to play Bluray discs.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: beeds on Dec 28, 2012 at 05:48 AM
Thanks sir, I'll look into that option. The sound quality will mainly depend on the type of file I'm going to play, am I correct?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 28, 2012 at 06:03 AM
Thanks sir, I'll look into that option. The sound quality will mainly depend on the type of file I'm going to play, am I correct?

Your audio equipment, your room, and how they work together will be an even bigger factor.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: beeds on Dec 28, 2012 at 06:07 AM
Noted, thanks sir.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 29, 2012 at 05:22 PM
I like the anti surge feature of asus mobo that i sue once your HTPC has been shutdown with power blackout or power interruption anti surge prompt will activate and you will see the message when you boot up.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 31, 2012 at 12:28 PM
May be worth considering for a serious gamer - six 24-inch LED monitors.  :)  They are called "wrap around" monitor set-up. I think 6 monitors is the most you can have for an Eyefinity graphics card.  Each monitor gives a max of 1920 x 1080 resolution.  That means you can have a total of 5760 x 3240 resolution.  Your PC sees the 6 monitors as one. 

(http://asset1.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20100111/Samsung-6_610x406.jpg)


Or something a bit more modest


(http://twistedsifter.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/five-portrait-vertical-monitor-battlestation-computer-setup-1.jpg)

(http://photos.expertreviews.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_Expert_Reviews/dir_278/er_photo_139492_52.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 31, 2012 at 01:10 PM
May be worth considering for a serious gamer - six 24-inch LED monitors.  :)  They are called "wrap around" monitor set-up. I think 6 monitors is the most you can have for an Eyefinity graphics card.  Each monitor gives a max of 1920 x 1080 resolution.  That means you can have a total of 5760 x 3240 resolution.  Your PC sees the 6 monitors as one. 

(http://asset1.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20100111/Samsung-6_610x406.jpg)


Or something a bit more modest


(http://twistedsifter.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/five-portrait-vertical-monitor-battlestation-computer-setup-1.jpg)

(http://photos.expertreviews.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_Expert_Reviews/dir_278/er_photo_139492_52.jpg)


Mas like ko pa din sa PJ sabihin na nating 15k isa niyan sa 6 na unit may 90k na ako puwede ko na ibili ng PJ un pang 110 or 120 screen bigger screen pa ang gamit ko. Siguro ang gagawa lang niyan is serious gamer pero for me a casual gamer mas ok na sa PJ maglaro.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 31, 2012 at 03:03 PM
But no matter how large your PJ, you're still confined to 1920 x 1200/1080 resolution or slightly more, right?

I think 3 monitors would be just fine.

(http://nag.tidemedia.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/eyefinity.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 31, 2012 at 03:21 PM
But no matter how large your PJ, you're still confined to 1920 x 1200/1080 resolution or slightly more, right?

I think 3 monitors would be just fine.

(http://nag.tidemedia.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/eyefinity.jpg)

Tama ako kasi more on casual lan namamahalan pa din kasi ako. Ciguro pag 5k na lang ung 24 inch na led puwede na kahit 3. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Dec 31, 2012 at 04:18 PM
mas mahal effectively ang PJ mahal kasi bulb and good for 3000 to 4000 hrs lang
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: javauser on Dec 31, 2012 at 04:50 PM
Mura lang bulb. Less than 10k. Kahit maka sampo ka pa, mas mura pa sa bumili ng 60in tv.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 31, 2012 at 04:55 PM
mas mahal effectively ang PJ mahal kasi bulb and good for 3000 to 4000 hrs lang

We are on a HTPC thread not a gaming thread av_phile1 said its for serious gamer im just a casual gamer kaya oks na sa akin ang PJ with 110 screen.  >:D >:D

Isa pa gaano kalakas sa kuryente yung 6 na monitor + price of the crossfire video card to accomodate the 6 monitor. You need a high end video card to run such eye infinity settings for max video playing. Sama mo pa ang gaming PC setup alam ko hindi lang basta basta PC setup ang need mo for the eye infinity.  ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jan 01, 2013 at 09:49 AM
My setup HTPC and all-rounder PC ... not much into gaming, so mainly movies, torrent rig, data storage, and Internet ... it's just connected to a 24-inch Samsung LED monitor and a pair of Bose Companion2 speakers - planning to improve the audio part this year, i've read about Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium HD which recommends to connect to a stereo Home Studio speakers (this is the part i'm not familiar with, when I research the web it points me to studio monitors and nearfield speakers which brands are not so common to me - what is recommended to connect a pair of standard BS speakers to the Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium HD, i'm just looking at a small device not a full blown AVR)

- Intel Core i7 3770k
- Asus Maximus V Formula (ROG Mobo)
- G.Skill 8GB DDR3 1600
- Corsair H60 (closed-loop liquid cooling)
- Palit GTX 650Ti GPU
- G.Skill 115GB SSD / Toshiba 1TB 2.5" HDD / Seagate 3TB HDD x2
- KWorld U405 TV Tuner
- Corsair HX620 PSU
- Corsair Carbide 500R Casing (Special White Edition)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8497/8277819360_5d26f7e695_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8216/8277871026_6809198904.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 01, 2013 at 09:53 AM
ganda brader....yang i7 sure na sure ako sibak nyan ang a10 sa processing.....hihihihi....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jan 01, 2013 at 10:54 AM
ganda brader....yang i7 sure na sure ako sibak nyan ang a10 sa processing.....hihihihi....


thanks sir, i would still recommend the A10 if it's purely for HTPC though ... from time to time kasi i use this for heavy Visio diagrams when working on large network designs, and large Excel files kaya i needed extra power
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 01, 2013 at 11:04 AM
thanks sir, i would still recommend the A10 if it's purely for HTPC though ... from time to time kasi i use this for heavy Visio diagrams when working on large network designs, and large Excel files kaya i needed extra power
i'm leaning towards amd a10 as well for htpc...all rounder and CHEAP IMO
but if you have other things to do that needs more processing ill go with i7 if budget permits as well..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jan 01, 2013 at 09:58 PM
My setup HTPC and all-rounder PC ... not much into gaming, so mainly movies, torrent rig, data storage, and Internet ... it's just connected to a 24-inch Samsung LED monitor and a pair of Bose Companion2 speakers - planning to improve the audio part this year, i've read about Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium HD which recommends to connect to a stereo Home Studio speakers (this is the part i'm not familiar with, when I research the web it points me to studio monitors and nearfield speakers which brands are not so common to me - what is recommended to connect a pair of standard BS speakers to the Soundblaster X-Fi Titanium HD, i'm just looking at a small device not a full blown AVR)

- Intel Core i7 3770k
- Asus Maximus V Formula (ROG Mobo)
- G.Skill 8GB DDR3 1600
- Corsair H60 (closed-loop liquid cooling)
- Palit GTX 650Ti GPU
- G.Skill 115GB SSD / Toshiba 1TB 2.5" HDD / Seagate 3TB HDD x2
- KWorld U405 TV Tuner
- Corsair HX620 PSU
- Corsair Carbide 500R Casing (Special White Edition)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8497/8277819360_5d26f7e695_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8216/8277871026_6809198904.jpg)

nice gaming htpc you got there. :)  (OTT ang i7 mo. hihihi! ;D)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 01, 2013 at 11:27 PM
thanks sir, i would still recommend the A10 if it's purely for HTPC though ... from time to time kasi i use this for heavy Visio diagrams when working on large network designs, and large Excel files kaya i needed extra power

+1
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 01, 2013 at 11:54 PM
nice setup sir raptor...
your using an i7 as torrent rig? not to mention with a discrete video card?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: alihug on Jan 05, 2013 at 05:38 AM
kung magbubuo ako ng htpc, at may a10-5800k na ko as my procie and a GIgabyte f2A75M-D3H, ano pa po ang kulang nito?

hd-?
psu-?
casing-?
ram-?

pls. supply the missing parts...thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 05, 2013 at 05:43 AM
pls. supply the missing parts...thanks!

Depende po sa budget niyo at mga kailangan na features.

hd- any recent model would do
psu- choose a moderate wattage "80 plus" certified unit for efficiency
casing- uATX or ATX
ram- 8GB DDR3-1866 or higher preferred
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 05, 2013 at 06:06 AM
Depende po sa budget niyo at mga kailangan na features.

hd- any recent model would do
psu- choose a moderate wattage "80 plus" certified unit for efficiency
casing- uATX or ATX
ram- 8GB DDR3-1866 or higher preferred
master ivan bakit hindi ka nagrekomenda ng 1333?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 05, 2013 at 06:13 AM
master ivan bakit hindi ka nagrekomenda ng 1333?

For recent Intels okay yan Master Joko. Yung IGP ng Intel kasi optimized for memory-bandwidth limited situations (designed for IGP use talaga). For AMD APUs, less efficient ang caching since based off discrete graphics ang integrated GPU design nila so mas hungry sa memory bandwidth.

Pati yung CPU part, mas efficient ang caching ng Intel kaya natatago ang memory latency. Sa AMD medyo napapansin pag mabagal ang memory.

Official Memory Support of Common HTPC processors:
Intel Clarkdale - upto DDR3-1333 (i3, i5) / upto DDR3-1066 (Celeron, Pentium)
Intel Sandy Bridge - upto DDR3-1333 (Pentium G8xx, i3, i5, i7) / upto DDR3-1066 (Celeron, Pentium G6xx)
Intel Ivy Bridge - upto DDR3-1600 (Pentium, i3, i5, i7), upto DDR3-1333 (Celeron)
AMD Llano - upto DDR3-1866 (A6, A8) / upto DDR3-1600 (E2, A4)
AMD Trinity - upto DDR3-1866 (A6, A8, A10) / upto DDR3-1600 (A4)

That being said, di naman masyado matakaw sa memory bandwidth ang video playback. So if budget-limited, going with slower but more ram can help (4GB of DDR3-1333 will likely outperform 2GB of DDR3-1866 in most real-world use, for example).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 06, 2013 at 12:21 AM
Just bought this for my AMD E350 HTPC

(http://www.cdrking.com/apanel/modules/products/images/large/9274_8.jpg)

Tried playing some BDs using TMT5.  Video is not as smooth and it was jittery.  Thought it was the limitation of the proc but when I played my BDs using PowerDVD ok na ok!!!

Had a BD marathon earlier and am happy with it.  I also ripped 2 BDs to the Hard drive using Makemkv and it delivered.   ;) ;) ;)

Not bad for P2990 from CDRking.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 06, 2013 at 12:46 AM
wow.. mukhang maganda nga yan.. hindi lang pala reader... mga ganyan.. writer pa...
magkano po blank bd?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jan 06, 2013 at 03:41 AM
Just bought this for my AMD E350 HTPC

(http://www.cdrking.com/apanel/modules/products/images/large/9274_8.jpg)

Tried playing some BDs using TMT5.  Video is not as smooth and it was jittery.  Thought it was the limitation of the proc but when I played my BDs using PowerDVD ok na ok!!!

Had a BD marathon earlier and am happy with it.  I also ripped 2 BDs to the Hard drive using Makemkv and it delivered.   ;) ;) ;)

Not bad for P2990 from CDRking.

sir, saang cdr king mo nakuha? that's a very good price ... wanted to get one for my PC build, but quite difficult to find one ... only Villman was selling BD player/writer but their price is almost 8k ... i just need a reader by the way
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2013 at 04:09 AM
wow.. mukhang maganda nga yan.. hindi lang pala reader... mga ganyan.. writer pa...
magkano po blank bd?

Reader lang ata yun kay Doc, boss.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 06, 2013 at 05:47 AM
Yup BD ROM lang and not writer.  But even with this, you can rip BDs to your hard drive i.e. Blurays to BD ISO, BDMV or MKVs.  Can't burn lang to a BD, CD or DVD.  I do not burn as often to discs anymore thus I do not need that extra feature.   ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 06, 2013 at 05:51 AM
sir, saang cdr king mo nakuha? that's a very good price ... wanted to get one for my PC build, but quite difficult to find one ... only Villman was selling BD player/writer but their price is almost 8k ... i just need a reader by the way

Market Market.  I guess you'll find these on big CDRKing stores.  Not available at all branches coz it is a slow moving product.  Isipin mo even big computer chain stores such as PCExpress, Octagon, Villman don't have it on stock.  Order basis lang.   
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jan 06, 2013 at 10:49 PM
Market Market.  I guess you'll find these on big CDRKing stores.  Not available at all branches coz it is a slow moving product.  Isipin mo even big computer chain stores such as PCExpress, Octagon, Villman don't have it on stock.  Order basis lang.   

yes sir, i went around known computer shops in Makati, Paranaque, and even some shops in Gilmore last month and they do not have BD-ROM drives, i ended up buying DVD-RW for my new build ... thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 06, 2013 at 10:54 PM
Market Market.  I guess you'll find these on big CDRKing stores.  Not available at all branches coz it is a slow moving product.  Isipin mo even big computer chain stores such as PCExpress, Octagon, Villman don't have it on stock.  Order basis lang.   

AYOS NOT BAD 3k 4x na
hmmmm ipon ako ng pera at pasensya sa pagpila sa market market taguig haba kasi ng pila lage..
although lapit lang kasi saken nyan tatawid lang ako samen market market na

how the perf? ok naman magrip?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 06, 2013 at 11:00 PM
AYOS NOT BAD 3k 4x na
hmmmm ipon ako ng pera at pasensya sa pagpila sa market market taguig haba kasi ng pila lage..
although lapit lang kasi saken nyan tatawid lang ako samen market market na

how the perf? ok naman magrip?

If i were you wait mode ka muna kasi meron naman na si louie kung pang rip lang.

Para di OT my new HTPC remote.

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/SDC11084_zps4547189f.jpg)

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/SDC11081_zps811aca1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DonMCruz on Jan 06, 2013 at 11:16 PM
@xrampage,

bro, mind sharing your htpc build?

anu yung remote mo? seems interesting :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 06, 2013 at 11:22 PM
@xrampage,

bro, mind sharing your htpc build?

anu yung remote mo? seems interesting :)
iphone 5 gamit nyang remote

build nya

amd a10 etc
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 06, 2013 at 11:26 PM
@xrampage,

bro, mind sharing your htpc build?

anu yung remote mo? seems interesting :)

Iphone 5 remote or any android even yung pinakaluma then download a mouse software on your android phone or tablet.

HTPC
AMD A10-5700 65w
Asus Mobo with Asus GO remote software
2x4GB Gskill
1x1TB wd black OS win7 to be replace by SSD
4x2TB HDD
Silverstone HTPC GD07 with 10 HDD slot.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Jan 07, 2013 at 12:28 AM
If i were you wait mode ka muna kasi meron naman na si louie kung pang rip lang.

Para di OT my new HTPC remote.

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/SDC11084_zps4547189f.jpg)

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/SDC11081_zps811aca1a.jpg)

Nice... I'm also using my iPhone 4 as my HTPC remote. Tho' sa XMBC lang.

What app is this sir?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 07, 2013 at 04:10 AM
ay sorry.. mali basa ko.. still very good buy po yan:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 07, 2013 at 07:19 AM
Nice... I'm also using my iPhone 4 as my HTPC remote. Tho' sa XMBC lang.

What app is this sir?

Yung gamit ko now is Asus remote GO and Smart Mouse for the mouse function only. I use the smart mouse for bluray viewing.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DonMCruz on Jan 07, 2013 at 11:31 AM
iphone 5 gamit nyang remote

build nya

amd a10 etc
ok salamat bro.

Iphone 5 remote or any android even yung pinakaluma then download a mouse software on your android phone or tablet.

HTPC
AMD A10-5700 65w
Asus Mobo with Asus GO remote software
2x4GB Gskill
1x1TB wd black OS win7 to be replace by SSD
4x2TB HDD
Silverstone HTPC GD07 with 10 HDD slot.

magkano lahat inabot bro, without including the 4x2tb hdd?  sensya na ha sa mga tanong ko. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 07, 2013 at 12:33 PM
ok salamat bro.
magkano lahat inabot bro, without including the 4x2tb hdd?  sensya na ha sa mga tanong ko. :)


Sa US kasi bili ung proc, mobo and asus.

You can check the below specs and like for the price mas high specs yan compare sa akin kasi yung proc 5800k 100W nga lang and atx yung mobo.

Proc: AMD A10-5800 - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=21582503
Memory: GSkill 4x4gb memory - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=21321221
HDD: 1TB or 2TB WD black or 250GB SSD - I recommend SSD i will upgrade my 1TB wd black to ssd soon.
Board: ASUS F2A85-M LE - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=21529968
PSU: Seasonic M12II 520w -http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=21319291
Case: SilverStone HTPC Desktop Chassis - http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=21524834
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 07, 2013 at 11:37 PM
AYOS NOT BAD 3k 4x na
hmmmm ipon ako ng pera at pasensya sa pagpila sa market market taguig haba kasi ng pila lage..
although lapit lang kasi saken nyan tatawid lang ako samen market market na

how the perf? ok naman magrip?

Ok naman performance.  Dami nako napanood and na-rip i.e. BDs to MKV (1 hour) and to folders (2 hours). :) Sulit na!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 07, 2013 at 11:40 PM
Ok naman performance.  Dami nako napanood and na-rip i.e. BDs to MKV (1 hour) and to folders (2 hours). :) Sulit na!
not bad sa 1x abutin ng syam syam e hehe...
dami nyo na pala NARAPE ah...este narip hihihi...

anung pinakamurang 4gb ddr3 1600m?
magupgrade ako sa 15
mas ok ba gskill kesa corsair?
corsair cl9 gamit ko
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jan 08, 2013 at 10:28 AM
not bad sa 1x abutin ng syam syam e hehe...
dami nyo na pala NARAPE ah...este narip hihihi...

anung pinakamurang 4gb ddr3 1600m?
magupgrade ako sa 15
mas ok ba gskill kesa corsair?
corsair cl9 gamit ko

not much difference between the 2, but if you're just adding memory, it's best to buy the same one as the existing memory modules to avoid complications ... last dec., i bought 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 (2 x 4GB) for PhP 2k
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 08, 2013 at 10:30 AM
not much difference between the 2, but if you're just adding memory, it's best to buy the same one as the existing memory modules to avoid complications ... last dec., i bought 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 (2 x 4GB) for PhP 2k

+1

Gskill din gamit ko pero since corsair na gamit mo get the corsair same timings so it will be dual channel. Memory on dual channel is better.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 08, 2013 at 10:51 AM
problem ko sa corsair...masyado mataas...ung heat shredder nya tumatama ung lagayan ng 5.5(BD or DVD)

ung gSkill musta ung height?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 08, 2013 at 10:57 AM
problem ko sa corsair...masyado mataas...ung heat shredder nya tumatama ung lagayan ng 5.5(BD or DVD)

ung gSkill musta ung height?

Ganito ung Gskill di kasi natama sa case ko kasi wala naman tatamaan.

(http://www.gskill.com/RipjawsZ/black.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:00 AM
naku parehas ata yan ng corsair cl9
kelangan ko ung memory gawang PANDACAN haha...

tumatama kasi ung heat shred
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:10 AM
naku parehas ata yan ng corsair cl9
kelangan ko ung memory gawang PANDACAN haha...

tumatama kasi ung heat shred

mas low profile ang G.Skill, yun ang isa sa consideration ko for getting G.Skill, masyado mataas yung Corsair at Geil ... if you're using an after-market large cpu fan, it could be an issue ... yung G.Skill tama lang size
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:19 AM
mas low profile ang G.Skill, yun ang isa sa consideration ko for getting G.Skill, masyado mataas yung Corsair at Geil ... if you're using an after-market large cpu fan, it could be an issue ... yung G.Skill tama lang size

will get 2 4ggskill kung sakali
magiging 12gb ok lang ba un? hehe..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:29 AM
will get 2 4ggskill kung sakali
magiging 12gb ok lang ba un? hehe..


Pag mataas timing ng corsair mo better isale mo na ang corsair then replace with 2x4GB GSkill.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Pag mataas timing ng corsair mo better isale mo na ang corsair then replace with 2x4GB GSkill.
parehas 1600 ung cl9 at gskill
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:32 AM
+1

Gskill din gamit ko pero since corsair na gamit mo get the corsair same timings so it will be dual channel. Memory on dual channel is better.
are 100% sure about this statement?



getting the same brand/model/batch will only LESSEN the chance of getting speed settings issue.
e.g. Specs:
dual ram A runs @ cl 2.0 // dual ram B runs @ cl 2.5
which means dual channel will run @ the weaker CL, this can easily remedied by CLOCKING dual ram B @ cl 2.0 if its capable

notice the example i made is from circa socket 939 / core 2 duo :)
even before that pwede naman asymetric dual channel ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:39 AM
walang alisan sa place elmer ha!  baka iwanan mo ito tulad ng 720p on 42" thread  >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:43 AM
walang alisan sa place elmer ha!  baka iwanan mo ito tulad ng 720p on 42" thread  >:D
hahaha......
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:48 AM
nang aasar lang ako, tinext ko pa yan para basahin agad ;D
seriously though, tatakbo naman sya parin as dual channel
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:53 AM


walang alisan sa place elmer ha!  baka iwanan mo ito tulad ng 720p on 42" thread  >:D

Bakit nilayasan ko ba yung 720p di ba nga sabi ko okay i did not say ayaw ko na. Im not an expert but i just post what i know. Di ako maaasar sa iyo kahit kelan hayaan mo babawian kita sa amigos EB kaya wag ka mawawala.

are 100% sure about this statement?



getting the same brand/model/batch will only LESSEN the chance of getting speed settings issue.
e.g. Specs:
dual ram A runs @ cl 2.0 // dual ram B runs @ cl 2.5
which means dual channel will run @ the weaker CL, this can easily remedied by CLOCKING dual ram B @ cl 2.0 if its capable

notice the example i made is from circa socket 939 / core 2 duo :)
even before that pwede naman asymetric dual channel ;)


May point ka naman sa post mo and tama kasi ung mga dual channel nabibili na siya in pair not in per unit. The last time na ginaw ako kasi yan is team elite pa i got 1 unit and then nung nag add ako same timings lang din ayun dual na ung memory di ko alam sa gskill.

Basta ako ano man post ko sa pinoydvd is ayun sa abot ng aking pag kakaintindi at nalalaman hindi yung ipag pipilitan ko. Isa pa ang aking mga post ay base sa aking experince not just basing on pure review. So nasa member na kung maniniwala siya or hindi bow. Yan lang po ang abot ng aking utak. BOW....
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ketchapay on Jan 08, 2013 at 12:09 PM
Guys, what's the cheapest setup for a low-power XBMC machine? My target is below 20 watts. Is this achievable?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 08, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Guys, what's the cheapest setup for a low-power XBMC machine? My target is below 20 watts. Is this achievable?

Ano po muna ang source na paly mo? AFAIK meron yan pero hanggang 720p lang kaya yan ang ang alam ko.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ketchapay on Jan 08, 2013 at 02:04 PM
Ano po muna ang source na paly mo? AFAIK meron yan pero hanggang 720p lang kaya yan ang ang alam ko.
Mostly 720p H.263 MKV files connected to my Samsung UA37D5000 TV. The TV has a built-in player but it lacks the features offered by XBMC running on an HTPC. I'm currently testing XBMC on a notebook with the iOS remote control which I find very nice since I don't have to fiddle around with a dedicated remote.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kj12 on Jan 08, 2013 at 03:24 PM
Share Lang masters

From ss sugo 07 to ss ft03 mini
Will dispose sugo 07 or build a home station thingy..
Intel ivy i5
750 gb momentus xt
4tb hdd
16g g. Skill ram
Asrock itx mobo
No vCard yet and running pdvd for media

Thanks master stagea for all the help!

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 08, 2013 at 04:40 PM
Share Lang masters

From ss sugo 07 to ss ft03 mini
Will dispose sugo 07 or build a home station thingy..
Intel ivy i5
750 gb momentus xt
4tb hdd
16g g. Skill ram
Asrock itx mobo
No vCard yet and running pdvd for media

Thanks master stagea for all the help!



You're welcome, Master kj12. Pag ayaw mo na, may alam akong charity na tumatanggap ng donations. ;)

Bili ka na din ng ODD sa net para di bakante yung butas.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 08, 2013 at 04:47 PM
Mostly 720p H.263 MKV files connected to my Samsung UA37D5000 TV. The TV has a built-in player but it lacks the features offered by XBMC running on an HTPC. I'm currently testing XBMC on a notebook with the iOS remote control which I find very nice since I don't have to fiddle around with a dedicated remote.

You can check the i3-2100T or i3-3225 or intel G530 or the zacate E-350.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jan 08, 2013 at 09:27 PM
will get 2 4ggskill kung sakali
magiging 12gb ok lang ba un? hehe..


ok lang 12GB as long as 64-bit na OS mo, but get the same timing as your Corsair ... kung hindi 64-bit OS, sayang lang 12GB, 3.25GB lang kaya gamitin ng 32-bit OS
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kj12 on Jan 09, 2013 at 12:52 AM
@master stagea- last time ako tumingin, walang available dito sa area namin.. hanap mode
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 09, 2013 at 12:58 AM
I'm using an AMD E350, ATI HD6450, 4GB DDR3 and can play smoothly remuxed full HD mkvs with HD Audio (20-25GB files), BD ISOs, Bluray Discs from a BD ROM.  Haven't tested 3D BDs though.  Smaller files wouldn't have any problems with it.  ;)  Cheaper alternative for a pure HTPC application than an i3.  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 09, 2013 at 01:01 AM
@master stagea- last time ako tumingin, walang available dito sa area namin.. hanap mode

Sa internet meron yan, master.

http://www.digistor.com/Internal-Drives/Blu-ray-Drives/Panasonic-Slim-Blu-ray-Burner-Slimline-SATA-Slot-Load_UJ-265 (http://www.digistor.com/Internal-Drives/Blu-ray-Drives/Panasonic-Slim-Blu-ray-Burner-Slimline-SATA-Slot-Load_UJ-265)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jan 09, 2013 at 08:46 PM
I'm using an AMD E350, ATI HD6450, 4GB DDR3 and can play smoothly remuxed full HD mkvs with HD Audio (20-25GB files), BD ISOs, Bluray Discs from a BD ROM.  Haven't tested 3D BDs though.  Smaller files wouldn't have any problems with it.  ;)  Cheaper alternative for a pure HTPC application than an i3.  ;)

I have a similar setup: a Manli T2 Nettop (AMD E-350, 4GB DDR3, 2.5" 500GB 5400rpm HDD). I plan to upgrade it to an SSD soon since application loading and response times are really slow. : :-[
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Jan 09, 2013 at 09:05 PM
sa mga guru here patulong naman po..here's my prob:

I recently bought a toshiba panel (led tv 32ps200). It's good. I am using it also as a secondary pc monitor. My problem is, I can't seem to get the hdmi audio working.

here's my setup running windows 7 32-bit:
pc (9800gt) > dvi-hdmi adapter > hdmi cable > tv

video is ok pero no sound sa tv. tried disabling/enabling all the possible digital audio on the sound settings on win7 pero to no avail pa rin. na try ko na dati ang above setup attached to my samsung plasma and ok naman. can anyone help? baka kasi may nakaligtaan lang ako.

here's the guide that i followed: http://www.overclock.net/t/441176/guide-8800gt-9800gt-9800gtx-sound-over-hdmi-now-including-creative-cards#post5305349

the above guide works. dvi outputting audio using a dvi-hdmi adapter (using internal spdif headers attached to my mobo). and like i said it worked on my samsung plasma but won't work on my toshiba. di rin kasi klaro ang manual nung tosh eh. so is there anybody who knows a fix for this o sadya talagang hindi pwede magka audio yung sa tosh? thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 09, 2013 at 11:23 PM
@[dcw]aaron
try mo rekta muna, pag gumana baka ibig sabihin di pwedeng mag output sa 2nd dvi ng audio.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jan 10, 2013 at 12:28 AM
sa mga guru here patulong naman po..here's my prob:

I recently bought a toshiba panel (led tv 32ps200). It's good. I am using it also as a secondary pc monitor. My problem is, I can't seem to get the hdmi audio working.

here's my setup running windows 7 32-bit:
pc (9800gt) > dvi-hdmi adapter > hdmi cable > tv

video is ok pero no sound sa tv. tried disabling/enabling all the possible digital audio on the sound settings on win7 pero to no avail pa rin. na try ko na dati ang above setup attached to my samsung plasma and ok naman. can anyone help? baka kasi may nakaligtaan lang ako.

here's the guide that i followed: http://www.overclock.net/t/441176/guide-8800gt-9800gt-9800gtx-sound-over-hdmi-now-including-creative-cards#post5305349

the above guide works. dvi outputting audio using a dvi-hdmi adapter (using internal spdif headers attached to my mobo). and like i said it worked on my samsung plasma but won't work on my toshiba. di rin kasi klaro ang manual nung tosh eh. so is there anybody who knows a fix for this o sadya talagang hindi pwede magka audio yung sa tosh? thanks!

i wouldn't recommend following that guide ... DVI does not support audio as a standard ... rather than working on those rewiring on the motherboard, it would be much simpler to just run a cable (3.5mm jack to L-R RCA) from the audio out of the PC to the audio input of the TV ... following that guide would be risking damaging the motherboard
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Jan 10, 2013 at 05:58 AM
^why would it damage the mobo? the headers on the vcard/mobo are made in order to output audio. they were made to be used. i dunno why it would damage them.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 10, 2013 at 06:12 AM
^why would it damage the mobo? the headers on the vcard/mobo are made in order to output audio. they were made to be used. i dunno why it would damage them.
if it does not support it natively bro.  may ganyan kasi minsan, nasa fine print naman pero di naman pala supported.  why not replace the video card bro? :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jan 10, 2013 at 07:17 AM
^why would it damage the mobo? the headers on the vcard/mobo are made in order to output audio. they were made to be used. i dunno why it would damage them.

DVI does not carry audio signal ... those headers are intended for other usage - e.g. front panel audio ... you will be deviating to standards, hence it will be at your own risk ... at the same time, you cannot refer to the manufacturer to verify why it's not working ... and since you're output is just to the TV (likely stereo only), why not just use an RCA cable to the audio input to make it work (guaranteed that this will work - you can escalate to the manufacturer if not) ... just my opinion anyway
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 10, 2013 at 08:14 AM
I recently bought a toshiba panel (led tv 32ps200). It's good. I am using it also as a secondary pc monitor. My problem is, I can't seem to get the hdmi audio working.

If you're using HDMI 3, make sure you select "HDMI" instead of "PC" in your TV's settings menu (under "PC/HDMI 3 Audio"). Select "Digital" under "HDMI 3 Audio" after confirming the prior step.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Jan 10, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Gudam...question lang po...im using an hdmi connection from pc to receiver then tv...ask ko lang po kapag testing ko yun sounds to the sounds options ng windows...delay po yun sounds..pero pag nagplay naman me ng music or movies ok naman po sya...any insights bakit po siya ganun..thx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 10, 2013 at 02:44 PM
Gudam...question lang po...im using an hdmi connection from pc to receiver then tv...ask ko lang po kapag testing ko yun sounds to the sounds options ng windows...delay po yun sounds..pero pag nagplay naman me ng music or movies ok naman po sya...any insights bakit po siya ganun..thx

Pag nawalan ng audio feed ang AVR, it takes a while before it relocks to a signal feed. Di pansin with movies and music since quiet naman talaga sila sa simula unlike yung test tone na sinasabi mo.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Jan 10, 2013 at 07:22 PM
If you're using HDMI 3, make sure you select "HDMI" instead of "PC" in your TV's settings menu (under "PC/HDMI 3 Audio"). Select "Digital" under "HDMI 3 Audio" after confirming the prior step.

so do i need to put it on the hdmi 3 slot? sige will try that!

DVI does not carry audio signal ... those headers are intended for other usage - e.g. front panel audio ... you will be deviating to standards, hence it will be at your own risk ... at the same time, you cannot refer to the manufacturer to verify why it's not working ... and since you're output is just to the TV (likely stereo only), why not just use an RCA cable to the audio input to make it work (guaranteed that this will work - you can escalate to the manufacturer if not) ... just my opinion anyway
yep thanks for the suggestions. yep i know this is a do it at your own risk thing. right now i would like to try to have an hdmi only para di hassle sa wires kasi medjo malayo ang tv sa cpu eh. pero if no luck then prolly i'll stick to the rca route.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 11, 2013 at 04:20 AM
so do i need to put it on the hdmi 3 slot? sige will try that!

No, this is just in case you used HDMI 3. The other ports default to this setting.

If you're using the SPDIF header on your motherboard, you should be using that as your output.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 11, 2013 at 06:04 AM
If you're using the SPDIF header on your motherboard, you should be using that as your output.
make sure your video card supports it, and be very very careful.  wala na yata warranty yan 9800 mo :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Jan 11, 2013 at 11:18 AM
No, this is just in case you used HDMI 3. The other ports default to this setting.

If you're using the SPDIF header on your motherboard, you should be using that as your output.
tried it but to no avail. tried both hdmi slot 1 and slot 3, changed the settings both on tv and pc playback device ganun parin. haay..if wala talaga then i will be using nalang talaga the rca route.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Jan 13, 2013 at 08:34 AM
Gudam po...question lang po...im using an avr connection pc>avr>tv...bakit po di na lumalabas yun dolby,dolby pro logic etc...just PCM and stereo are available...ask ko lang din po..ok lang po iset yun sound sa 192khz/24bit...?im usng a pio 521...thank you...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: tein on Jan 13, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Anu connection mo to avr from pc? Optical cable sir ?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Jan 13, 2013 at 11:39 AM
naku sorry di ko pla nlagay...hdmi po pc>avr>tv
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 13, 2013 at 11:54 AM
naku sorry di ko pla nlagay...hdmi po pc>avr>tv

Have you check your VC setting if supported niya hd audio? May naging issue kasi dati na kahit na supported ng VC niya un pala conflict sa driver so ginawa nag reinstall ng driver.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Jan 13, 2013 at 12:19 PM
im using sapphire 5850 extreme...support niya po yun hd audio..ok naman po yun sound when playing in avr kaso nawala nga lang po yun options na dolby,neo etc...pcm and stereo are only available...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 13, 2013 at 12:22 PM
im using sapphire 5850 extreme...support niya po yun hd audio..ok naman po yun sound when playing in avr kaso nawala nga lang po yun options na dolby,neo etc...pcm and stereo are only available...

Check the link below yan yung sinasabi ko baka ganyan din ang issue sa iyo.  >:D

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,174385.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,174385.0.html)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Jan 13, 2013 at 12:37 PM
thx sir xrampge..di ko pla nabago yun sa audio options ng splash pro...hdmi bitstream
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 13, 2013 at 12:38 PM
thx sir xrampge..di ko pla nabago yun sa audio options ng splash pro...hdmi bitstream

Yun naman pala enjoy watching...
Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mangboy on Jan 18, 2013 at 07:34 AM
Mga sir patulong naman meron ako luma cpu ito yung spec niya first generation na I5processor, mobo msi g55 series, 4gig ram, video card 1g power supply 500 watts, dvd player.
Pede pa po ba ito? Ano pa po dapat ko idagdag to build HTPC thanks in advance!!!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 18, 2013 at 07:55 AM
Mga sir patulong naman meron ako luma cpu ito yung spec niya first generation na I5processor, mobo msi g55 series, 4gig ram, video card 1g power supply 500 watts, dvd player.
Pede pa po ba ito? Ano pa po dapat ko idagdag to build HTPC thanks in advance!!!

That should be adequate. Ano po model nung graphics adapter nyo?
Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mangboy on Jan 18, 2013 at 08:23 AM
Video card ko sir msi nvidia gts250 1g
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 18, 2013 at 08:31 AM
Mga sir patulong naman meron ako luma cpu ito yung spec niya first generation na I5processor, mobo msi g55 series, 4gig ram, video card 1g power supply 500 watts, dvd player.
Pede pa po ba ito? Ano pa po dapat ko idagdag to build HTPC thanks in advance!!!

Puwedeng puwede na yan.

Video card ko sir msi nvidia gts250 1g

Gamer ka noh? hehe
Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mangboy on Jan 18, 2013 at 08:32 AM
Long time ago xrampage na addict ako online gaming he he he....
Bro ano pa kulang dito?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 18, 2013 at 08:50 AM
Video card ko sir msi nvidia gts250 1g

The GTS 250 does not stream digital audio. You'd need to hookup the internal SPDIF connector to your motherboard's (or sound card's) header to enable audio through the HDMI out (if your graphics card has one). Without this, you'd need to use a separate connection for audio. I suggest using a different graphics adapter though (especially if you're after features like HD Audio bitstreaming and Auto Lipsync).

If your motherboard has HDMI, then you can also use that instead (the P55A-G55 does not have one, but I'm not sure if this is your mobo model).

You can check out current AMD and Nvidia graphics solutions.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 18, 2013 at 08:54 AM
Long time ago xrampage na addict ako online gaming he he he....
Bro ano pa kulang dito?

Check AMD video card out of the box mas maganda siya kesa nvidia.
Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mangboy on Jan 18, 2013 at 08:59 AM
Should i change the videocard?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 18, 2013 at 09:13 AM
Should i change the videocard?

Are you hooking the PC up to an AV Receiver / AV Pre-Pro via HDMI? If so, then it likely makes sense to do so (at least if the AV Receiver supports HD Audio and/or Lipsync).
Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mangboy on Jan 18, 2013 at 09:23 AM
Are you hooking the PC up to an AV Receiver / AV Pre-Pro via HDMI? If so, then it likely makes sense to do so (at least if the AV Receiver supports HD Audio and/or Lipsync).

Not yet sir but thats the intension any suggestion on videacard?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 18, 2013 at 04:25 PM
Not yet sir but thats the intension any suggestion on videacard?

Any discrete adapter in the AMD Radeon HD 7000 series or Nvidia Geforce 600 series should be able to handle basic HTPC needs. Higher models in these lines can handle extensive video post-processing.

Other intended uses like games and content-creation may be greater determinants for this purchase.
Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mangboy on Jan 18, 2013 at 05:23 PM
Any discrete adapter in the AMD Radeon HD 7000 series or Nvidia Geforce 600 series should be able to handle basic HTPC needs. Higher models in these lines can handle extensive video post-processing.

Other intended uses like games and content-creation may be greater determinants for this purchase.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kj12 on Jan 19, 2013 at 01:43 AM
help... htpc connected to avr via hdmi, problem is when i goto osd and change some settings, i cant go back to hdmi as the screen is blank and avr says "no source"
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 19, 2013 at 04:57 AM
help... htpc connected to avr via hdmi, problem is when i goto osd and change some settings, i cant go back to hdmi as the screen is blank and avr says "no source"

Ano nangyari sa flagship setup mo master DA?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kj12 on Jan 19, 2013 at 06:31 AM
I dunno.. While watching a movie, i paused it and went to adjust something on the avr so i went to osd and made some adjustment, ok naman atnaka display sa tv, kaso pag exit ko osd, tv is blank, hdmi 1 lang on upper left side, avr display sayshdmi 1 no source...


Turn off ko muna avr then turn on para mag connect...



Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 19, 2013 at 07:45 AM
I dunno.. While watching a movie, i paused it and went to adjust something on the avr so i went to osd and made some adjustment, ok naman atnaka display sa tv, kaso pag exit ko osd, tv is blank, hdmi 1 lang on upper left side, avr display sayshdmi 1 no source...


Turn off ko muna avr then turn on para mag connect...

I readily accept donations. :)

Try turning off CEC muna. Check din baka nagpowersave lang yung PC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kj12 on Jan 20, 2013 at 06:31 PM
Yep working na, thanks thanks!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 21, 2013 at 03:45 PM
Yep working na, thanks thanks!

You're welcome, master DA. Kala ko mag all-new system ka na naman. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kj12 on Jan 22, 2013 at 02:30 AM
wah... wag naman..

any suggestions po sa vcard?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 22, 2013 at 03:15 AM
any suggestions po sa vcard?

Fire Pro S10000 para sayo. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joko11 on Jan 22, 2013 at 04:32 AM
Fire Pro S10000 para sayo. :)
master jedi ivaness tindi mo talaga mag suggest >:D
NASA landrover VC specs
magkano yan? :P
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: comgen on Jan 22, 2013 at 04:53 AM
Mga Kuya, I have this gaming VC, I am currently using it as a transport na din papunta sa
AVR ko via HDMI to my Pioneer VSX 920, It's Sapphie Radeon HD6850.

Problem is I noticed that my old Ipod Classic sounds better plugged directly to my Pioneer VSX 920. Problem ko naman with Ipod ang hirap mag manage ng flac files kc kailangan ko pa convert then sync.

Mas ok ba benta ko n lang sya and start a better solution? Any suggestions ng Sound Card? or Video Card?

budget? the lower the better =P
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 22, 2013 at 05:05 AM
master jedi ivaness tindi mo talaga mag suggest >:D
NASA landrover VC specs
magkano yan? :P

$3.6k ang srp nyan. Barya lang yan kay DA aka kj12, kelangan daw kasi nya ng deep color. :)

Problem is I noticed that my old Ipod Classic sounds better plugged directly to my Pioneer VSX 920. Problem ko naman with Ipod ang hirap mag manage ng flac files kc kailangan ko pa convert then sync.

Ano pong software player gamit nyo and anong setting gamit nyo sa AVR?



Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: comgen on Jan 22, 2013 at 05:51 AM
Ano pong software player gamit nyo and anong setting gamit nyo sa AVR?
Foobar -> asio po yung player tapos sa AVR naman po Pure Direct, then nakaon na din yung sound Ret nya. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 22, 2013 at 06:16 AM
Foobar -> asio po yung player tapos sa AVR naman po Pure Direct, then nakaon na din yung sound Ret nya. 

You're using ASIO for a Radeon's HDMI? You might get better results with WASAPI, as AMD has no native support for ASIO afaik.

Sound Retriever is meant to compensate for HF loss in compressed formats. It's not meant to be used on FLACs (unless you like the effect).

You can try EQing it as it may help. If not, you can test the flavor of an outboard DAC.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: comgen on Jan 22, 2013 at 06:46 AM
You're using ASIO for a Radeon's HDMI? You might get better results with WASAPI, as AMD has no native support for ASIO afaik.

Sound Retriever is meant to compensate for HF loss in compressed formats. It's not meant to be used on FLACs (unless you like the effect).

You can try EQing it as it may help. If not, you can test the flavor of an outboard DAC.

Yes Sir StageA, Asio po. sige po try ko wasapi =)...
Thanks for the tip Sir StageA.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: comgen on Jan 22, 2013 at 07:24 AM
Yes Sir StageA, Asio po. sige po try ko wasapi =)...
Thanks for the tip Sir StageA.

Di ko alam kung medyo me katok ang tenga ko dahil maaga pa. pero the Wasapi way sound better nga for my hardware compared to asio :). Thanks ulit sir StageA.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: kj12 on Jan 22, 2013 at 07:59 AM
$3.6k ang srp nyan. Barya lang yan kay DA aka kj12, kelangan daw kasi nya ng deep color. :)

Poof!  Nanaginip ng $1=php1... Pwede na!...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 22, 2013 at 09:49 AM
Poof!  Nanaginip ng $1=php1... Pwede na!...

Hehehe. Reference-length HD 7870 GHz Edition sounds like a good solution for your computer. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Frankthetank on Jan 23, 2013 at 10:29 AM
I'm helping my friend build an HTPC with an 8k budget.

Possible ba na complete na given this budget?

What parts can you suggest?

TY
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 23, 2013 at 01:30 PM
I'm helping my friend build an HTPC with an 8k budget.

Possible ba na complete na given this budget?

What parts can you suggest?

Yes, it may be possible to get a package for a Celeron G550 with 2 GB RAM and a smallish HDD for that amount (generic components). A Brazos Nettop is another option.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: comgen on Jan 24, 2013 at 03:25 AM
Mga Kuya for this setup saan po nang yayari ang DAC?

Foobar ---> WASAPI ---> Radeon 6850 ---> HDMI Cable ---> Pioneer VSX920 (audio setting Pure Direct)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 24, 2013 at 05:33 AM
Mga Kuya for this setup saan po nang yayari ang DAC?

Foobar ---> WASAPI ---> Radeon 6850 ---> HDMI Cable ---> Pioneer VSX920 (audio setting Pure Direct)


Sa AV Receiver.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Jan 31, 2013 at 02:17 PM
best alternate case for HTPC small form factor

meet Jonsbo V4 --- http://www.jonsbo.com/en/products_13_2.html

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/373932_4530946079934_1080875957_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jan 31, 2013 at 09:06 PM
best alternate case for HTPC small form factor

meet Jonsbo V4 --- http://www.jonsbo.com/en/products_13_2.html

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/373932_4530946079934_1080875957_n.jpg)

that case looks like this case!
http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=94 (http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=94)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 31, 2013 at 10:05 PM
affordable po ba ganyan hitsura ng case? looks very nice.. clean
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 01, 2013 at 08:29 AM
Mukhang subwoofer.  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Feb 01, 2013 at 10:53 AM
build quality parang Lian-Li rin :) All Aluminum
napakaliit ng case - Dimension: 238 mm (W) x 278 mm (H) x 280 mm (D)

(http://www.jonsbo.com/en/images/g104/r09.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 01, 2013 at 11:02 AM
I'm helping my friend build an HTPC with an 8k budget.

Possible ba na complete na given this budget?

What parts can you suggest?

TY

meron binebenta si blackstar sa mp ..casing nalang kulang saka psu
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 01, 2013 at 03:14 PM
available po yang jonsbo locally? saan po and magkano? i like.. lalo na pag lianli quality
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Feb 01, 2013 at 04:52 PM
available po yang jonsbo locally? saan po and magkano? i like.. lalo na pag lianli quality

parang di ata sir, nag email na ako pero auto reply. balik sila on feb 16 :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Feb 01, 2013 at 09:29 PM
thanks sir jaime..
nagemail din po ako.. hehe oonga chinese new year daw.. hehehe thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Feb 01, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Gudpm..question lang po..which is better..8 gb 1600mhz or 4gb 1866mhz...?GB or ram speed?thank you...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Feb 02, 2013 at 02:50 PM
thanks sir jaime..
nagemail din po ako.. hehe oonga chinese new year daw.. hehehe thanks

Sir eto po reply ni Herman :)


"Dear James,
 
Thanks for your inquiry and interested in our products.
May I ask what is the purpose for buying our case?
For buying sample, it is OK and may I get some information of your company such as URL website address.
For personal usage, I am sorry we are a manufacturer and do not retail our product to customer directly.
If you really want to buy, maybe you can try to buy it from our China distributor through internet, you can try to surf to www.taobao.com and search Jonsbo.
However Taobao is only in Chinese, but you can try to use Google Translate or something like that to help you.
If you have any further question please feel free to contact me in any time convenient to you.
Happy Chinese New Year.
 
Best regards,

 

Herman Yung

Sales Manager


Email : [email protected]

Skype : jonsbo0769
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Tel   : (86 769) 8252 9716
-----------------------------------------------------------
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JONSBO (HK) International Co.,Ltd.

Shenzhen JONSBO Technology Co.,Ltd.


 

URL: http://www.jonsbo.com

Tel: (86 769) 8252 9716
Fax: (86 769) 8213 3500
Add: A5-4 Taihemei Industrial Park, No.128, Chunfeng Lu, Longbeiling,
     Tangxia Town, Dongguan City, 523711, Guangdong Province, China

 


Save a tree!  Don't print this e-mail unless it's really necessary!"
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Feb 06, 2013 at 08:39 PM
bought this one for my HTPC.

(http://www.soundgraph.com/assets/Uploads/products/Pro_vfd/Pro_vfd01.jpg)
$60 @ ebay site. Made by Soundgraph - http://www.soundgraph.com/home-en

meron din sila yung parang Antec Veris
(http://www.soundgraph.com/assets/Uploads/products/Pro_Ultra/Pro_Ultra04.jpg)

http://www.soundgraph.com/ultrabay-feature-en/
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Feb 06, 2013 at 08:47 PM
Gudpm..question lang po..which is better..8 gb 1600mhz or 4gb 1866mhz...?GB or ram speed?thank you...

go for 8GB (4GBx2) dual channel ... the 4GB 1866MHz although faster would likely just be a single stick and you would not be optimizing the dual-channel HW so it would be slower overall, plus you have more headway with 8gb
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Feb 10, 2013 at 06:28 AM
ok..ill go for 8gb hehe...thx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Nikkie on Feb 21, 2013 at 01:49 PM
Any recommendations for a CPU that would be good for 2D Autocad? Budget would be less than 10k if possible. Would double rin as media player. :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Feb 21, 2013 at 04:24 PM
Any recommendations for a CPU that would be good for 2D Autocad? Budget would be less than 10k if possible. Would double rin as media player. :D

Sandy/ Ivy Bridge Pentium Dual-Core or i3 would do for your intended use.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: j3yps on Jun 17, 2013 at 01:15 PM
Can you guys recommend me a CPU setup that is somehow future proof budget is up to 30k, this will mainly be used with a full hd 3d projector so hopefully it can play those files. oh and it will also be used for a bit of gaming. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 17, 2013 at 02:14 PM
Can you guys recommend me a CPU setup that is somehow future proof budget is up to 30k, this will mainly be used with a full hd 3d projector so hopefully it can play those files. oh and it will also be used for a bit of gaming. :)

What game plan mo na laruin?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: j3yps on Jun 17, 2013 at 06:32 PM
What game plan mo na laruin?
Simple lang naman sir so far Diablo III lang kasi mostly din naman ng games ko nasa PS3 na


PS. i think this is not the right place to ask, i'll just create my own thread. Hopefully you guys could help me setup the perfect HTPC for me :)

Here's the thread masters
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,180435.0.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jun 23, 2013 at 03:52 PM
My latest htpc set up

Processor            AMD A8-5600K AMD Radeon HD 7560D
Motherboard    Gigabyte F2A75M D3H FM2
OS Drive            ADATA SP900 Series 64GB SATA3 6GB/s SSD
Hard Disk            Samsung Spinpoint F3 2TB
Memory            Corsair Vengeance LP 4GB
Case                    Silverstone Lascala LC13-E
Power Supply    Silverstone Strider 500w

naubusan ng budget para sa RAM
Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mangboy on Jul 21, 2013 at 08:46 PM
My latest build HTPC cum Gaming

CPU - intel i5 4670 GPU HD4600

MB - Asus Z87 pro

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87PRO/

Hdd - intel 330 180gb

Psu - everest 800 watts

Optical drive - asus

Casing - antec eleven hundred
Maliit sana kaso yung mb atx tapos yung cpu cooler hindi kasya wah

CEL Pics:

(http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq327/MangBoy31/IMG_0923_zps9b60a553.jpg) (http://s460.photobucket.com/user/MangBoy31/media/IMG_0923_zps9b60a553.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jul 22, 2013 at 06:40 PM
@mangboy

bagay sa setup mo ang video card ko:  ;D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1008947_10153007015005580_748188116_o.jpg)
Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mangboy on Jul 22, 2013 at 07:49 PM
Wow ganda will try muna the gpu of the cpu

He he he
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 22, 2013 at 07:59 PM
Wow ganda will try muna the gpu of the cpu

He he he

8 series ka na.. bwahaha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 22, 2013 at 09:34 PM
Wow ganda will try muna the gpu of the cpu

He he he

With your setup, kelangan ng mag dedicated VC. Wag ng magtipid...sagarin na!!! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/69.gif)
Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mangboy on Jul 22, 2013 at 09:47 PM
With your setup, kelangan ng mag dedicated VC. Wag ng magtipid...sagarin na!!! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/69.gif)

Kasama talaga sa plano doc gusto ko lang makita capability ng gpu nung cpu hd4600  :)
Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mangboy on Jul 22, 2013 at 09:50 PM
Any suggestion for a good video card wag po sobra mahal :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 22, 2013 at 09:52 PM
Any suggestion for a good video card wag po sobra mahal :)

Wala pa ata 8 series sister antayin mo na.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 22, 2013 at 10:00 PM
Any suggestion for a good video card wag po sobra mahal :)

Maski ATI HD 5xxx or 6xxx series ok if for HD movie viewing lang. The 5 series can already bitstream HD Audio.  Pero kung gusto mong 3D and gaming, go higher.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 22, 2013 at 10:09 PM
Maski ATI HD 5xxx or 6xxx series ok if for HD movie viewing lang. The 5 series can already bitstream HD Audio.  Pero kung gusto mong 3D and gaming, go higher.

But it differ on power and features better get siya ng DDR5 na VC. New VC check what you software/program and it will give the power that needed according to the software/program you open.  ;D ;D

Jay kung mura mag ATI 5xxxx series ka na lang..
Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: mangboy on Jul 22, 2013 at 10:19 PM
Ito pede na ito?


http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/HD7770DC1GD5V2/
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jul 23, 2013 at 08:33 PM
Ito pede na ito?


http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/HD7770DC1GD5V2/


pwedeng-pwede yan as long as may 6-pin pci-e connector ang psu mo. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 20, 2013 at 03:44 PM
Saw this today at Silicon Valley Megamall on sale at P16k++.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/Sonyhtpc2_zps75cdaaec.png)

Specs:
Sony Vaio
CPU: Core2Duo (2.4ghz)
2gb RAM
750GB HDD
1GB Nvidia 8400GS HDMI
Bluray drive
WINDOWS VISTA

OK ba for the price? Pogi eh (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Oct 20, 2013 at 03:55 PM
Saw this today at Silicon Valley Megamall on sale at P16k++.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/Sonyhtpc2_zps75cdaaec.png)

Specs:
Sony Vaio
CPU: Core2Duo (2.4ghz)
2gb RAM
750GB HDD
1GB Nvidia 8400GS HDMI
Bluray drive
WINDOWS VISTA

OK ba for the price? Pogi eh (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)

it uses old bits. (not even a Core i series Intel) siguro old stock yan.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Oct 20, 2013 at 04:26 PM
it uses old bits. (not even a Core i series Intel) siguro old stock yan.

yup, this is an old model ... saw this one around 3 years ago in Singapore Sony store
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Gino on Oct 20, 2013 at 04:40 PM
It doesn't matter if it has old specs if it is working, and it does the job you want. That looks good.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 20, 2013 at 05:19 PM
Would the specs be good enough for HTPC considering that it can play BDs? A branded HTPC with uber Form Factor is the selling point here.  Downside no HD audio.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Oct 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM
good enough sir... and price is quite low naman

kahit magbuo tayo new celeron ngayon.. lalagpas sa price niyan... if kasama bluray
pero.. matakaw sa kuryente yan compared sa newer counterparts...(medyo di ok pag... 24/7 mo gagamitin torrents)

pero kung it will be for me.. buo parin ako bago.. more flexible.. upgradable.. pag techie ka medyo important upgradable..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Oct 21, 2013 at 03:39 PM
share lang..

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_HT/Q27_HTPC_zps1dd4c030.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 05, 2013 at 07:58 AM
for HTPC which would you choose?
Lenovo S405 5935-9092/Grey 5935-9093/Red AMD A8-4555M/2GB/500GB/14-inch/Win 8  (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Lenovo_S405_5935-9092)


Acer V5-552-85554G1Taii (Iron) 15.6-inch AMD A8-5557M/4GB/1TB/AMD Radeon 8550G/Windows 8 (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_V5-552-85554G1Taii)


Toshiba Satellite C40D-A108 (Black) 14-inch AMD Quad Core A4-5000/4GB/500GB/Radeon HD 8330/Windows 8 (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Toshiba_C40D-A108)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 05, 2013 at 08:18 AM
for HTPC which would you choose?
Lenovo S405 5935-9092/Grey 5935-9093/Red AMD A8-4555M/2GB/500GB/14-inch/Win 8  (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Lenovo_S405_5935-9092)


Acer V5-552-85554G1Taii (Iron) 15.6-inch AMD A8-5557M/4GB/1TB/AMD Radeon 8550G/Windows 8 (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_V5-552-85554G1Taii)


Toshiba Satellite C40D-A108 (Black) 14-inch AMD Quad Core A4-5000/4GB/500GB/Radeon HD 8330/Windows 8 (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Toshiba_C40D-A108)


I am not a fan of laptops being used as HTPCs but I will go for the ACER. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 05, 2013 at 11:33 AM
@ninjababez

the Acer V5 also gets my vote.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 05, 2013 at 01:00 PM
for HTPC which would you choose?
Lenovo S405 5935-9092/Grey 5935-9093/Red AMD A8-4555M/2GB/500GB/14-inch/Win 8  (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Lenovo_S405_5935-9092)


Acer V5-552-85554G1Taii (Iron) 15.6-inch AMD A8-5557M/4GB/1TB/AMD Radeon 8550G/Windows 8 (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_V5-552-85554G1Taii)


Toshiba Satellite C40D-A108 (Black) 14-inch AMD Quad Core A4-5000/4GB/500GB/Radeon HD 8330/Windows 8 (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Toshiba_C40D-A108)

I am not a fan of laptops being used as HTPCs but I will go for the ACER. 

Same here, Acer for me. It comes with better hardware (better APU, larger screen, touch screen, full keyboard, larger ram, larger hdd, etc.) than the other two.

The Lenovo is low in RAM, is older and lacks touch. The Toshiba isn't in the same class as it's running a much slower APU.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 05, 2013 at 11:01 PM
I am not a fan of laptops being used as HTPCs but I will go for the ACER. 
@ninjababez

the Acer V5 also gets my vote.
hi guys what if i have a 2 extra 4gb ram sticks so ram size is not an issue. 
forgot to mention that the lid will be closed 99.9% of the time so the screen size of acer will not be a factor. 

Same here, Acer for me. It comes with better hardware (better APU, larger screen, touch screen, full keyboard, larger ram, larger hdd, etc.) than the other two.

The Lenovo is low in RAM, is older and lacks touch. The Toshiba isn't in the same class as it's running a much slower APU.

how much slower yung toshiba vs. acer master?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 06, 2013 at 01:18 AM
how much slower yung toshiba vs. acer master?

Processing and Graphics-wise about half the speed... we're talking Kabini (Toshiba) vs. Richland (Acer). Aside from having much slower processor cores (Netbook class) and having half the parallelism in its graphics engine, the Kabini is also crippled by its single-channel memory interface.

The Mobile Richland is closer to a Mobile i5 in performance, while the Mobile Kabini is closer to a Mobile Celeron/Pentium.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 06, 2013 at 02:34 AM
Processing and Graphics-wise about half the speed... we're talking Kabini (Toshiba) vs. Richland (Acer). Aside from having much slower processor cores (Netbook class) and having half the parallelism in its graphics engine, the Kabini is also crippled by its single-channel memory interface.

The Mobile Richland is closer to a Mobile i5 in performance, while the Mobile Kabini is closer to a Mobile Celeron/Pentium.
yuck!  hahaha
thanks master will check out other brands narin.  medyo alanganin parin ako sa built ng acer notebooks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 06, 2013 at 02:52 AM
yuck!  hahaha
thanks master will check out other brands narin.  medyo alanganin parin ako sa built ng acer notebooks.

@jamy

anong budget mo para sa laptop? check mo Asus saka MSI! ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 06, 2013 at 03:08 AM
@jamy

anong budget mo para sa laptop? check mo Asus saka MSI! ;)
asus talaga preferred brand ko, since 2006-07 7 or 8 asus laptops na yata nabili ko 3 of those nasakin pa 2 for distribution na sa mga kamaganak, 1 htpc laptop (which will be replaced soon).
natuwa lang ako dun sa toshiba kasi mura :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 06, 2013 at 05:53 AM
Bro pila ka nalang dito (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,184918.0.html). (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif) If you can find a laptop with discrete graphics (not shared) that would be the best.  I'm still a believer of having a dedicated VC for HTPC use. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: GIJoe on Nov 06, 2013 at 06:02 AM
Nice thread i can some if i plan to setup my htpc but im thinking of Dune nmt.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 06, 2013 at 06:17 AM
kainis bakit walang ASUS counterpart itong mga ito :(

Acer Aspire E1-572G-34014G75Mnkk 15.6-inch 4th Gen Core i3-4010U/2GB Radeon HD 8750M/Win 8 Gaming Laptop (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_E1-572G-34014G75Mnkk)

Acer V5-552-85554G1Taii (Iron) 15.6-inch AMD A8-5557M/4GB/1TB/AMD Radeon 8550G/Windows 8 (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_V5-552-85554G1Taii)

looking at the benchmarks and CPU world comparison mukhang mas OK yung amd :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: GIJoe on Nov 06, 2013 at 06:53 AM
kainis bakit walang ASUS counterpart itong mga ito :(

Acer Aspire E1-572G-34014G75Mnkk 15.6-inch 4th Gen Core i3-4010U/2GB Radeon HD 8750M/Win 8 Gaming Laptop (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_E1-572G-34014G75Mnkk)

Acer V5-552-85554G1Taii (Iron) 15.6-inch AMD A8-5557M/4GB/1TB/AMD Radeon 8550G/Windows 8 (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_V5-552-85554G1Taii)

looking at the benchmarks and CPU world comparison mukhang mas OK yung amd :D

Because asus gaming laptop is asus rog.

(https://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/Gaming_Products/)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 06, 2013 at 08:58 AM

looking at the benchmarks and CPU world comparison mukhang mas OK yung amd :D

Agree ako dyan bro!  Mas mura pa! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2013 at 12:19 AM
Agree ako dyan bro!  Mas mura pa! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif)
natutukso tuloy ako bumuo ng full HTPC desktop ;D
pero wag nalang mas magastos in the long run ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Nov 07, 2013 at 01:26 AM
sir ninja... gusto ko pag laptop na htpc asus T100 yata.. atom na quadcore.. transformer 10" di ko lang sure kung may hdmi.. hehe
meron na sa usa 260 to 300$ yata... pero 2gb ram lang yata hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 07, 2013 at 01:44 AM
sir ninja... gusto ko pag laptop na htpc asus T100 yata.. atom na quadcore.. transformer 10" di ko lang sure kung may hdmi.. hehe
meron na sa usa 260 to 300$ yata... pero 2gb ram lang yata hehe

it has micro HDMI. available na yan sa Villman. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2013 at 02:56 AM
sir ninja... gusto ko pag laptop na htpc asus T100 yata.. atom na quadcore.. transformer 10" di ko lang sure kung may hdmi.. hehe
meron na sa usa 260 to 300$ yata... pero 2gb ram lang yata hehe
bro pass ako sa atom based processor ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 07, 2013 at 06:00 AM
natutukso tuloy ako bumuo ng full HTPC desktop ;D
pero wag nalang mas magastos in the long run ;D

Hindi mahal yan...wag kalang maarte sa parts! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2013 at 06:10 AM
Hindi mahal yan...wag kalang maarte sa parts! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
hahaha casing palang ng gusto ko 6k (tipid mode na ito) :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2013 at 06:19 AM
Because asus gaming laptop is asus rog.

(https://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/Gaming_Products/)
i think villman.com just incorrectly categorized the laptop i mentioned above as a gaming laptop.  :D
afaik asus ROG laptops/ultrabook is using i7 @ minimum, which is already way beyond my budget ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 07, 2013 at 11:44 AM
@jamy

check mo ang new releases ng Asus sa market natin: ;)
http://www.yugatech.com/personal-computing/asus-revamps-consumer-notebook-portfolio/ (http://www.yugatech.com/personal-computing/asus-revamps-consumer-notebook-portfolio/)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 07, 2013 at 01:06 PM
hahaha casing palang ng gusto ko 6k (tipid mode na ito) :D

Ah luho na yan!  Pag nakapatay na ilaw, eh makikita mo paba ang P6k worth na casing? (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/1.gif)

@jamy

check mo ang new releases ng Asus sa market natin: ;)
http://www.yugatech.com/personal-computing/asus-revamps-consumer-notebook-portfolio/ (http://www.yugatech.com/personal-computing/asus-revamps-consumer-notebook-portfolio/)

New models? (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/7.gif)

(http://i2.wp.com/www.yugatech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/ASUS-S551.jpg)
(http://i1.wp.com/www.yugatech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/N550.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2013 at 11:08 PM
Bro pila ka nalang dito (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,184918.0.html). (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif) If you can find a laptop with discrete graphics (not shared) that would be the best.  I'm still a believer of having a dedicated VC for HTPC use. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif)
pass ako dyan bro, mas maganda pa vga nung current i3 htpc laptop ko :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Ah luho na yan!  Pag nakapatay na ilaw, eh makikita mo paba ang P6k worth na casing? (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/1.gif)

New models?
kaya nga laptop nalang bro para mas "tipid" ;D
@jamy

check mo ang new releases ng Asus sa market natin: ;)
http://www.yugatech.com/personal-computing/asus-revamps-consumer-notebook-portfolio/ (http://www.yugatech.com/personal-computing/asus-revamps-consumer-notebook-portfolio/)
bro hassle naman sila kungdi intel eh nvidia naman, ATi parin talaga for me pagdating sa htpc :)

btw galing ako ng acer kanina, kukuha daw nila ako nung Acer Aspire E1-572G-34014G75Mnkk 15.6-inch 4th Gen Core i3-4010U/2GB Radeon HD 8750M/Win 8 Gaming Laptop para ma test ko, sabi ko yung body lang nung acer ang gusto ko tignan, madalas kasi masyado plastic ang dating  ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 08, 2013 at 01:14 AM
Quote
bro hassle naman sila kungdi intel eh nvidia naman, ATi parin talaga for me pagdating sa htpc :)

true. kaya 7750 ang napili kong video card para sa htpc ko. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Nov 17, 2013 at 11:49 PM
it has micro HDMI. available na yan sa Villman. ;)
wow meron pala saatin.. silipin ko nga:D thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Nov 18, 2013 at 12:11 AM
true. kaya 7750 ang napili kong video card para sa htpc ko. ;)

Malaki po ba ang performance difference ng 7750 and 7770?
Title: Re: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 18, 2013 at 12:07 PM
Malaki po ba ang performance difference ng 7750 and 7770?

Not so much. Yung 7790 or R7 260X ang big step up from these two if you want a better performing solution. The 260x also offers TrueAudio if that matters to you.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Nov 18, 2013 at 12:12 PM
Thanks. I was thinking, A 3yo AMD Athlon x2 can no longer accommodate the newer pc games di ba? Probably Useless din if I add a 7770 vc. I used a 4770 before, sold it since it can no longer handle COD Black Ops at that time.

1080p content was flawless with the 4770, now may sabit using the on board video.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 18, 2013 at 12:24 PM
Thanks. I was thinking, A 3yo AMD Athlon x2 can no longer accommodate the newer pc games di ba? Probably Useless din if I add a 7770 vc. I used a 4770 before, sold it since it can no longer handle COD Black Ops at that time.

1080p content was flawless with the 4770, now may sabit using the on board video.

are you using an AM3 or AM3+ motherboard? if you are, then you can upgrade to a multi-core AMD FX cpu. :) 

btw, are you referring to the Intel i7-4770 or the Radeon HD 4770?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Nov 18, 2013 at 12:43 PM
I think I'm using an AM3+ Asus board, I have to check. What procie would you recommend?

I'm referring to a Radeon HD4770 vc  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Nov 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM
I think I'm using an AM3+ Asus board, I have to check. What procie would you recommend?

I'm referring to a Radeon HD4770 vc  :)

the quad-core FX-4300 3.8Ghz for around 5k
the 6-core FX-6300 3.5Ghz for 5+k
the 8-core FX-8320/8350 for 7+ to 10k
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Nov 18, 2013 at 01:00 PM
Thanks, will look into this
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Chorus on Nov 18, 2013 at 01:06 PM
Thanks, will look into this

ehheemmm

Meron ako FX 8120 Black Edition pm ka lang
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Dowals on Nov 18, 2013 at 05:18 PM
  ;D teka lang idol, will think about it
Title: Re: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 18, 2013 at 07:59 PM
I think I'm using an AM3+ Asus board, I have to check. What procie would you recommend?

I'm referring to a Radeon HD4770 vc  :)

Any of the current FX processors would do the job for entry level gaming. You can add the graphics card now and change the processor later,
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: sientobente on Nov 18, 2013 at 08:38 PM
Ah luho na yan!  Pag nakapatay na ilaw, eh makikita mo paba ang P6k worth na casing? (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/1.gif)

New models? (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/7.gif)

(http://i2.wp.com/www.yugatech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/ASUS-S551.jpg)
(http://i1.wp.com/www.yugatech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/N550.jpg)
Mas gusto pa ako ng model kaysa sa gusto ko yung laptop nya  ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Dec 21, 2013 at 06:57 PM
Magandang araw mga GURU's! Mas maganda po ba talaga na mag HTPC nlang ako? Meron na po akong Mede8er for the past year. Pero minsan po ay may mga BLUE EDGES po yung mga images ng movie  lalo na kapag may movement and kapag madilim ang scene. How do you compare a media player and an HTPC?

Hingi din po sana ako ng payo kung anong magandang parts para sa pag build ng HTPC. Kaya na po ba sa 15k? Maraming salamat po  ;) Advanced Happy Christmas!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Dec 26, 2013 at 07:38 AM
Magandang araw mga GURU's! Mas maganda po ba talaga na mag HTPC nlang ako? Meron na po akong Mede8er for the past year. Pero minsan po ay may mga BLUE EDGES po yung mga images ng movie  lalo na kapag may movement and kapag madilim ang scene. How do you compare a media player and an HTPC?

Hingi din po sana ako ng payo kung anong magandang parts para sa pag build ng HTPC. Kaya na po ba sa 15k? Maraming salamat po  ;) Advanced Happy Christmas!

I suggest you compare playback between your standalone media player and your PC (I suppose you have one). If the PC does not show such artifacts, then you might have the answer to your question.

If you choose your components carefully, 15k will do. The Pentium G3220 + Radeon R7 240 may be a good starting point. If you're willing to wait, Kaveri will launch on the 14th of January.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Jan 03, 2014 at 09:43 AM
I suggest you compare playback between your standalone media player and your PC (I suppose you have one). If the PC does not show such artifacts, then you might have the answer to your question.

Happy New Year! and Thank you po STAGEA for your usual help.

Minsan nga naiisip ko na baka sa file ang problem... baka mas nakikita lang ang flaws nya sa SAMSUNG F6300 dahil naka 120Hz siya. Pag sa PC ko kasi naka VGA lang siya and naka standard Hz lang ang monitor ko na mura (PENSONIC).

Hindi ko lang ma-connect ang PC ko sa HDTV ko dahil po sa absence ng HDMI (wala po kasing card ang PC ko)

If you choose your components carefully, 15k will do. The Pentium G3220 + Radeon R7 240 may be a good starting point.

Going thru, parang gusto ko na bitawan/ibenta ang MEDE8ER MED500x2 which I bought for 14k last year which includes a 2Tb Western Digital HD. JUST A WILD QUESTION SIR: Magkano nlang kaya ito mabibili?  :)

As per the 15K po sir, complete na ba ito? such as; CASE, PSU, MOBO, MEMORY, etc.

I really need help po pagdating sa HTPC setup. Ok lang po ba maka hingi ako ng specific parts na bibilhin para sa HTPC setup?

If you're willing to wait, Kaveri will launch on the 14th of January.

Salamat po sa Tip sir! Panalo po ba sa price and function ang Kaveri sir?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 05, 2014 at 02:35 AM
As per the 15K po sir, complete na ba ito? such as; CASE, PSU, MOBO, MEMORY, etc.

I really need help po pagdating sa HTPC setup. Ok lang po ba maka hingi ako ng specific parts na bibilhin para sa HTPC setup?

Since you probably have an HDD in your media player, you can just use that and transfer it to your HTPC build. If the 15k budget does not include the OS and the HDD, you can check out parts like below:

INTEGRATED GRAPHICS
Intel Core i3-4130 Processor                     5270
G.Skill Aegis 2x4GB RAM kit (8GB total)  3450
Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2PH Motherboard   2740
CoolerMaster CMP-350 w/ 500W PSU      1999
Logitech MK220 Keyboard & Mouse          950
   
Total                                                       14409

DEDICATED GRAPHICS
Intel Pentium G3220 Processor                2940
G.Skill Aegis 2x4GB RAM kit (8GB total)  3450
Asrock H81M-VG4 Motherboard                2330
CoolerMaster CMP-350 w/ 500W PSU      1999
Logitech MK220 Keyboard & Mouse          950
PowerColor Radeon R7 240 2GB             3360

Total                                                      15029

There are cheaper options out there that'd get you more or faster parts, but the level of quality may be compromised. These prices are from PC Hub, by the way.

Kaveri will likely cost a little more initially, so if you have a hard stop at 15k then you can forego that option.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Jan 06, 2014 at 10:24 AM

There are cheaper options out there that'd get you more or faster parts, but the level of quality may be compromised. These prices are from PC Hub, by the way.

Kaveri will likely cost a little more initially, so if you have a hard stop at 15k then you can forego that option.

I'll stick to your recommendations Sir! Maraming, Maraming Salamat sa tulong mo Sir Stagea!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Jan 06, 2014 at 01:36 PM

INTEGRATED GRAPHICS
Intel Core i3-4130 Processor                     5270
G.Skill Aegis 2x4GB RAM kit (8GB total)  3450
Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2PH Motherboard   2740
CoolerMaster CMP-350 w/ 500W PSU      1999
Logitech MK220 Keyboard & Mouse          950
   
Total                                                       14409

DEDICATED GRAPHICS
Intel Pentium G3220 Processor                2940
G.Skill Aegis 2x4GB RAM kit (8GB total)  3450
Asrock H81M-VG4 Motherboard                2330
CoolerMaster CMP-350 w/ 500W PSU      1999
Logitech MK220 Keyboard & Mouse          950
PowerColor Radeon R7 240 2GB             3360

Total                                                      15029

Please correct me if I'm wrong. When it comes to power consumption mas malakas itong HTPC (specs given above) compare sa MEDE8ER?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 06, 2014 at 03:12 PM
Please correct me if I'm wrong. When it comes to power consumption mas malakas itong HTPC (specs given above) compare sa MEDE8ER?

In default configuration, yes. You probably won't notice the difference though.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Jan 14, 2014 at 08:42 AM

INTEGRATED GRAPHICS
Intel Core i3-4130 Processor                     5270
G.Skill Aegis 2x4GB RAM kit (8GB total)  3450
Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2PH Motherboard   2740
CoolerMaster CMP-350 w/ 500W PSU      1999
Logitech MK220 Keyboard & Mouse          950
   
Total                                                       14409

DEDICATED GRAPHICS
Intel Pentium G3220 Processor                2940
G.Skill Aegis 2x4GB RAM kit (8GB total)  3450
Asrock H81M-VG4 Motherboard                2330
CoolerMaster CMP-350 w/ 500W PSU      1999
Logitech MK220 Keyboard & Mouse          950
PowerColor Radeon R7 240 2GB             3360

Total                                                      15029

Pede rin ba ito sa gaming sir? TIA!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 14, 2014 at 08:53 AM
Pede rin ba ito sa gaming sir? TIA!

That depends on your expectations. I suggest going for a higher model graphics card. The VTX3D R9 270X costs 7999 (4.6k more), but is a huge step up when it comes to gaming performance.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jan 14, 2014 at 10:24 PM
eto ideal htpc ko:
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPowerPC_Zeus_SFF (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPowerPC_Zeus_SFF)  :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Chorus on Jan 17, 2014 at 08:46 PM
My Case just arrived  ;D

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/707/tlhy.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/jntlhyj)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/853/mpsl.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/npmpslj)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jan 17, 2014 at 11:51 PM
@Chorus

what model of Silverstone case is that? it's beautiful!  :-*
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Chorus on Jan 18, 2014 at 03:09 AM
@Chorus

what model of Silverstone case is that? it's beautiful!  :-*

SILVERSTONE CW01B-WD

Black Aluminum ATX Media Center/HTPC Case
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Jan 21, 2014 at 04:28 PM
Mga Sirs! Tatagal po kaya ito? Or baka 6mos lang sira na ito....? Kaya kaya pang matagalang operation? Ito po yung link:

http://www.buyqube.com/Q-Singles-Nanoi3-Specs.htm
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jackryan on Jan 21, 2014 at 06:21 PM
wouldn't the cost of building your HTPC include the license for the operating system and playback software that you will use?

if done this way, you can really compare apples to apples build out cost of a custom built one versus commercial htpc's which usually includes the OEM licenses?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Jan 22, 2014 at 08:43 AM
@ STAGEA:

Is this a better option? http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=28809405 Better than the i3? Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jan 22, 2014 at 10:31 PM
@ STAGEA:

Is this a better option? http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=28809405 Better than the i3? Thanks!

It is a more capable and in some ways a more advanced chip that costs a little more. With current applications it's not that much faster (except on 3D applications like games when running the built-in graphics). Its true capability is expected to be unlocked when applications start taking advantage of HSA and/or Mantle.

Some things can be done much quicker if designed to take advantage of these technologies.

Here's an example of the result of HSA optimization:
(http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/HSA-LibreOffice.png)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Jan 27, 2014 at 04:48 PM
Wow! Thanks sir, I'm learning more from you.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 30, 2014 at 06:18 PM
My HTPC is acting up. Minsan may video, minsan nawawala up to the point that I have to reset. After resetting, no assurance that the video will appear again. My rig has a dedicated HDMI videocard connected to a receiver then to TV. I tried using the onboard video and so far OK naman. Should I change the videocard or is it possible that the PCI-E slot would be problematic?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jan 30, 2014 at 06:27 PM
My HTPC is acting up. Minsan may video, minsan nawawala up to the point that I have to reset. After resetting, no assurance that the video will appear again. My rig has a dedicated HDMI videocard connected to a receiver then to TV. I tried using the onboard video and so far OK naman. Should I change the videocard or is it possible that the PCI-E slot would be problematic?

looks like the video card is the problem. palitan na lang yan with a Radeon R7 240. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 30, 2014 at 06:29 PM
looks like the video card is the problem. palitan na lang yan with a Radeon R7 240. ;)

How much ba ang ganyan bro? Contemplating on NVIDIA naman para easier configuration with XBMCbuntu.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jan 30, 2014 at 06:36 PM
How much ba ang ganyan bro? Contemplating on NVIDIA naman para easier configuration with XBMCbuntu.

I think around 3-4k ang R7 240. I also recommend the Radeon 7730 and 7750 for around 3-4k as well.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: XanderCage on Jan 31, 2014 at 12:15 AM
anyone know san nakakabili nung super liit na keyboard with touchpad? id like to use it sa xbmc. nagagandahan kasi ako dun sa refocus na skin but maximized sya for keyboard. hirap gamitin yung mouse remote ko.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jrcrunch on Jan 31, 2014 at 02:39 AM
which stop sa gilmore or greenhills marecommend nyo pagawa ng htpc? hopefully kaya at least 2 tv magplay ng  2 different movies at the same time. budget is 15k. salamat
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jan 31, 2014 at 04:53 AM
which stop sa gilmore or greenhills marecommend nyo pagawa ng htpc? hopefully kaya at least 2 tv magplay ng  2 different movies at the same time. budget is 15k. salamat

pc hub, pc option, or gaisano interspace.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Feb 18, 2014 at 12:57 PM
gudpm...ask lang po some insights...im using htcp w/ windows7...when i change the setting of my sound to 5.1 why is it the receiver only showing PCM?but when set to stereo i can select the other options like dolby etc...and also why when i play dts my volume is too low?thank you...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 18, 2014 at 01:22 PM
gudpm...ask lang po some insights...im using htcp w/ windows7...when i change the setting of my sound to 5.1 why is it the receiver only showing PCM?but when set to stereo i can select the other options like dolby etc...and also why when i play dts my volume is too low?thank you...

anung player mo brader?
HTPC is connected via hdmi or optical?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Feb 18, 2014 at 02:40 PM
whats your preferred player sir? ako potplayer with SVP
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Feb 18, 2014 at 05:33 PM
im using splash pro player connected via HDMI
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 18, 2014 at 11:15 PM
im using splash pro player connected via HDMI
naka set ba audio to hdmi sa splash?
may option kasi dun to go stereo, optical, coax and hdmi.
ill post a screenshot later when i get home :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Feb 19, 2014 at 07:45 AM
im using splash pro player connected via HDMI

used splash before but to me potplayer with svp is better you need a faster cpu though

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 19, 2014 at 07:57 AM
used splash before but to me potplayer with svp is better you need a faster cpu though


ako vlc parin for movies, then splash for tv series.  di ko talaga feel yung SOE ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 19, 2014 at 09:05 AM
naka set ba audio to hdmi sa splash?
may option kasi dun to go stereo, optical, coax and hdmi.
ill post a screenshot later when i get home :)
tama ka dyan brader...


ako
powerdvd 12 or TMT kapag ISO and bdmv
kapag mkv - splash pro
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Feb 19, 2014 at 09:34 AM
opo nka hdmi na po sya...kasi pag set to 5.1 pcm lang lumlbas sa receiver...just ask na din po...which better hdmi or optical?salamt po...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 19, 2014 at 10:15 AM
opo nka hdmi na po sya...kasi pag set to 5.1 pcm lang lumlbas sa receiver...just ask na din po...which better hdmi or optical?salamt po...

hdmi

5.1 pinindot mo sa receiver ung option?
anung setting ng audio sa plater mo?

sure kaba ng dts ung audio?
baka dts 2.0 yan hehe...
kidding

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Feb 19, 2014 at 10:52 AM
ako vlc parin for movies, then splash for tv series.  di ko talaga feel yung SOE ;D

ano yung SOE?...i never like vlc ilang beses ko nang sinubukan pero di ko gusto....splash pro naman ok minsan depende sa movie (or maybe sa copy.. though laging 1080p download ko) nasubukan nyo na ba SVP?... para rin sya nung feature ng splash pro meron ding parang motion ek ek...yun nga lang demanding sa cpu
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: defined on Feb 19, 2014 at 12:05 PM
hmm i mean 5.1 yun sound setup sa soundcard...then nka hdmi bitstream sa splash pro...if ganito po setup pcm lang lumalbas sa receiver...regarding po dun sa dts..when i check sa information  splash pro while playing...5.1 ata nkalagay...i think SOE is the Soap opera effect"...
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Feb 19, 2014 at 01:35 PM
paano connection mo from htpc to receiver? hdmi? check mo sa sound icon kung ano ang ginagamit na renderer?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 19, 2014 at 11:08 PM
ano yung SOE?...i never like vlc ilang beses ko nang sinubukan pero di ko gusto....splash pro naman ok minsan depende sa movie (or maybe sa copy.. though laging 1080p download ko) nasubukan nyo na ba SVP?... para rin sya nung feature ng splash pro meron ding parang motion ek ek...yun nga lang demanding sa cpu
Soap Opera Effect (higher refresh rate) :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 24, 2014 at 06:37 PM
I bought an Nvidia GT610 which can bitstream HD audio.  I am using XBMC as my player.  When I choose HDMI as my output in the audio settings, it can bitstream the HD audio as what I can see in my receiver. Sometimes after playing a movie with HD-audio, the sound disappears when I play another movie. When I go to the audio settings and change it to analog, I get sound but it appears in my receiver as PCM. Is this still HD audio (the video card decoding the hd audio and sending it to the receiver) or is it just plain analog? Btw, I am just using this in a stereo setup i.e. with only 2 speakers attached to an HDMI receiver with HD audio capabilities.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: iconlord on Feb 24, 2014 at 07:52 PM
ano yung SOE?...i never like vlc ilang beses ko nang sinubukan pero di ko gusto....splash pro naman ok minsan depende sa movie (or maybe sa copy.. though laging 1080p download ko) nasubukan nyo na ba SVP?... para rin sya nung feature ng splash pro meron ding parang motion ek ek...yun nga lang demanding sa cpu

parang may 2D effect pag naka enable yun motion2, yun nga lang kailangan quadcore yun cpu :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Feb 24, 2014 at 08:44 PM
di ba low-quality lang ang PCM audio? so hindi cya HD audio? ganito ang audio signal ko pag nakakabit sa receiver via optical out ang tv ko tapos cable tv ang source.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 25, 2014 at 12:55 AM
di ba low-quality lang ang PCM audio? so hindi cya HD audio? ganito ang audio signal ko pag nakakabit sa receiver via optical out ang tv ko tapos cable tv ang source.
nope it isn't low quality . it depends

PCM is uncompressed audio. 
once you bitstream the audio and it was decoded by receiver then it becomes HD audio...
Title: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: crazyhog on Feb 25, 2014 at 01:07 AM
anyone using MPC-HC + madVR + other filters...? magands ba PQ nito or comparable s Splash Pro? mejo maraming tweak kasing gawin s MPC and need magandang VC para sulit.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 25, 2014 at 06:27 AM
As I remembered before, when I had the fat PS3 which can decode the HD audio and then passes the signal to the receiver as PCM.  According to the forums, there is no difference between PCM and bitstream. Just the equipment that does the decoding. And of course you do not see the HD audio format in the LCD of your receiver. Just PCM.

I was just wondering as the settIng in audio in XBMC is Analog and what I see in my receiver is PCM. Does the HDMI VC decode HD audio before it sends the signal to the receiver?
Title: Re: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Mar 05, 2014 at 01:12 PM
nope it isn't low quality . it depends

PCM is uncompressed audio. 
once you bitstream the audio and it was decoded by receiver then it becomes HD audio...

You do not have to send an unaltered bitstream to get "HD" audio. Decoded HD bitstreams will do too; the only problem is that a lot of content prevent the streaming of decoded data through flags (DRM). Analogue connections can also be used for HD Audio.
Title: Re: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Mar 05, 2014 at 01:16 PM
As I remembered before, when I had the fat PS3 which can decode the HD audio and then passes the signal to the receiver as PCM.  According to the forums, there is no difference between PCM and bitstream. Just the equipment that does the decoding. And of course you do not see the HD audio format in the LCD of your receiver. Just PCM.

I was just wondering as the settIng in audio in XBMC is Analog and what I see in my receiver is PCM. Does the HDMI VC decode HD audio before it sends the signal to the receiver?

It is most likely CPU-decoded. Chances are it also went through the Windows audio stack, if you are running a Windows variant.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: titor on Mar 05, 2014 at 01:29 PM
What's a good GPU nowadays for HTPC/Desktop use. preferably low profile. My knowledge on this is on the higher end gaming gpu's that i have no idea not even budget.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Mar 05, 2014 at 09:46 PM
What's a good GPU nowadays for HTPC/Desktop use. preferably low profile. My knowledge on this is on the higher end gaming gpu's that i have no idea not even budget.

the Radeon 7730 or R7 240. I think these two cost 3-4k.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: titor on Mar 06, 2014 at 12:46 PM
the Radeon 7730 or R7 240. I think these two cost 3-4k.

cool thanks... i didnt even know that meron ng low end sa R series ng AMD.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 06, 2014 at 02:00 PM
How far is nvidia vs ati for movie viewing, i mean with no adjustments ha default lang.  Planning to replace my 3 year old laptop kasi and puro nvidia lang nakikits ko options sa asus budget i3 laptops thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Mar 06, 2014 at 02:37 PM
How far is nvidia vs ati for movie viewing, i mean with no adjustments ha default lang.  Planning to replace my 3 year old laptop kasi and puro nvidia lang nakikits ko options sa asus budget i3 laptops thanks

Nvidia's improved a lot over the years in this department. You can get them pretty close to each other with tweaking to the point that it'd be hard to tell them apart unless you nitpick.

The biggest gap left between Nvidia and AMD in terms of video PQ is compression artifact control. AMD includes more advanced noise management in software, which gives noticeably cleaner images from highly compressed sources (lower compression sources like BDs will show less of a difference).

AMD's Vector Adaptive Deinterlacing can also deliver slightly crisper edges than Nvidia's Spatial-temporal Deinterlacing when playing back interlaced material.

You can opt to use Nvidia's Optimus Technology if you'd like to take advantage of Intel's mildly superior video playback when watching movies.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Mar 06, 2014 at 02:40 PM
it would seem however na cpu parin talaga ang main na apektado pag may mga pre and post processing ng video having a higher end vcard seems not worth it.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Mar 06, 2014 at 02:45 PM
it would seem however na cpu parin talaga ang main na apektado pag may mga pre and post processing ng video having a higher end vcard seems not worth it.

Not true. This depends on what handles the post-processing and the source material. Entry level boards can fall back to lower image quality settings automatically so as not to drop frames when performing VPP. Things have gotten much better though as GPUs moved forward in terms of shader performance.

Current mid-level boards can handle quite extensive post-processing. For basic (driver-based) VPP with little quality degradation, I'd go for an R7 250 at least.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 06, 2014 at 03:39 PM
Nvidia's improved a lot over the years in this department. You can get them pretty close to each other with tweaking to the point that it'd be hard to tell them apart unless you nitpick.

The biggest gap left between Nvidia and AMD in terms of video PQ is compression artifact control. AMD includes more advanced noise management in software, which gives noticeably cleaner images from highly compressed sources (lower compression sources like BDs will show less of a difference).

AMD's Vector Adaptive Deinterlacing can also deliver slightly crisper edges than Nvidia's Spatial-temporal Deinterlacing when playing back interlaced material.

You can opt to use Nvidia's Optimus Technology if you'd like to take advantage of Intel's mildly superior video playback when watching movies.
master im currently using ati 6470 with i3
Which new nvidia mobile  gpu do you think is equal or better than my current gpu?  Btw sayo nalang ako magtanong kasi ikaw palang nakakita nun setup ko :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Mar 06, 2014 at 04:36 PM
Not true. This depends on what handles the post-processing and the source material. Entry level boards can fall back to lower image quality settings automatically so as not to drop frames when performing VPP. Things have gotten much better though as GPUs moved forward in terms of shader performance.

Current mid-level boards can handle quite extensive post-processing. For basic (driver-based) VPP with little quality degradation, I'd go for an R7 250 at least.

having a hard time fully utilizing the vcard normally 50% or less lang ang activity nya...anyways baka di lang ako marunong
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 06, 2014 at 04:40 PM
having a hard time fully utilizing the vcard normally 50% or less lang ang activity nya...anyways baka di lang ako marunong
bro afaik yun 50% na nakikita mo na activity clockspeed lang yun ng vcard processor :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 06, 2014 at 07:02 PM
I just shifted to Nvidia as it is more native to Linux than ATI. VDPAU (Video Decode And Presentation API for Unix) the counterpart of Windows' Direct X is better utilized by NVIDIA than ATI.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/Zorin%20OS_zpsluucvvzx.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 06, 2014 at 11:18 PM
bro mel, pasyalan kita one of these days to check out the new setup :D
takot kasi ako mag jump sa nvidia  ^-^
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Mar 07, 2014 at 02:00 AM
having a hard time fully utilizing the vcard normally 50% or less lang ang activity nya...anyways baka di lang ako marunong

50% is a good value. Once you hit 70% or more, you can get spikes in utilization that can drop frames or reduce video quality (if certain things like DI is set to auto).

Interlaced video with a lot of motion would be good for testing GPU load with postprocessing filters on.

CPU power is useful for CPU-based post-processing, especially for SVP and the like.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Mar 07, 2014 at 02:14 AM
master im currently using ati 6470 with i3
Which new nvidia mobile  gpu do you think is equal or better than my current gpu?  Btw sayo nalang ako magtanong kasi ikaw palang nakakita nun setup ko :)

Since you don't do any additional postprocessing, GT730M or higher should do just fine for high quality DI and basic controls. The GT720M and the 710M lack significant shader power (thus the driver would do IQ-hurting optimizations when playing back demanding video).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 07, 2014 at 04:42 AM
bro mel, pasyalan kita one of these days to check out the new setup :D
takot kasi ako mag jump sa nvidia  ^-^

Sure sabihan mo lang ako. I only have minimum requirements sa video card.  The one I bought was even less than P2k. Very entry level but it delivers for my simple needs--bluray and remuxed playback.  Haven't tried 3D though. 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 07, 2014 at 11:40 AM
Sure sabihan mo lang ako. I only have minimum requirements sa video card.  The one I bought was even less than P2k. Very entry level but it delivers for my simple needs--bluray and remuxed playback.  Haven't tried 3D though.
ano nga pala yung card bro? 
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 07, 2014 at 11:47 AM
Since you don't do any additional postprocessing, GT730M or higher should do just fine for high quality DI and basic controls. The GT720M and the 710M lack significant shader power (thus the driver would do IQ-hurting optimizations when playing back demanding video).
nice atleast may option na ako incase NVidia is the only option.  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: titor on Mar 07, 2014 at 03:39 PM
got an xfx 5450 last night. walang iba sa easypc. got it for 1400. I was surprised may hdmi output na... actually pang desktop lang naman. i tried videos a 30G Avatar file. no distortions in pq. dont know about sound since it wasnt connected to the receiver.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 07, 2014 at 08:28 PM
ano nga pala yung card bro? 

GT610.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 07, 2014 at 08:30 PM
got an xfx 5450 last night. walang iba sa easypc. got it for 1400. I was surprised may hdmi output na... actually pang desktop lang naman. i tried videos a 30G Avatar file. no distortions in pq. dont know about sound since it wasnt connected to the receiver.

Definitely can bitstream HD audio to your receiver. Just load the right drivers.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: titor on Mar 07, 2014 at 08:45 PM
Definitely can bitstream HD audio to your receiver. Just load the right drivers.

good to know... im still using catalyst 13.10
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 08, 2014 at 12:04 PM
The newer drivers can enable to bitstream HD Audio to your receiver.  I remember when I bought my HD5550 and installed ATI Catalyst, I still can't bitstream HD audio or I cannot see any HD audio on the supported formats.  I had to install the Realtek HD audio driver in order to see the supported HD audio formats in the Sound settings.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 10, 2014 at 04:12 AM
any recommendations on a compact HTPC case locally available that can hold at least 2 internal HDD and 1 SSD ... i'm looking into a possible AMD powered setup with microATX or ITX motherboard ... thanks in advance
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 10, 2014 at 04:57 AM
any recommendations on a compact HTPC case locally available that can hold at least 2 internal HDD and 1 SSD ... i'm looking into a possible AMD powered setup with microATX or ITX motherboard ... thanks in advance

TipidPC HTPC Cases for Sale (http://www.tipidpc.com/itemsearch.php?sec=s&namekeys=%22htpc%22)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: titor on Mar 10, 2014 at 03:32 PM
will this play large files flawlessly using xbmc

-itx mb: am3 Asus E35M1-I E350, 17W, for NAS, HTPC, POS
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 17, 2014 at 01:19 AM
sirs, i'm planning to replace my current 23-inch monitor with a bigger one and with an IPS panel ... i saw a 32-inch LG TV which is Full HD with 3D capability and hard IPS panel at just around 20k+ at Ansons ... is anyone using LED TV primarily as PC monitor? how's the quality? - i know that it has the same resolution as the standard full HD PC monitors, i just don't if there's a catch because the TV's come out cheaper compared to standard IPS PC monitors of the same size
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Mar 17, 2014 at 01:55 AM
i use tv po as my primary desktop pc.. for 5 years na..
i used 32" AOC 720p for 3 years
and now i use 55" LG 1080p also 3d for 2 years now..
my AOC was TN....
my LG according to my tests are ips.. (but im not sure)

they both look good to me.. kahit yung TN..

warning lang... medyo nakakalula 1st 3 days.. when i did this on my AOC... medyo nafeel ko nagsisi ako... dahil... too big for desktop.. but... after 3 days... sanay na... i even played alot of call of duty on both of them..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Mar 17, 2014 at 02:24 AM
sirs, i'm planning to replace my current 23-inch monitor with a bigger one and with an IPS panel ... i saw a 32-inch LG TV which is Full HD with 3D capability and hard IPS panel at just around 20k+ at Ansons ... is anyone using LED TV primarily as PC monitor? how's the quality? - i know that it has the same resolution as the standard full HD PC monitors, i just don't if there's a catch because the TV's come out cheaper compared to standard IPS PC monitors of the same size

Input lag may be higher on a TV. Color rendition may also be off out of the box, but calibration will largely compensate for that. For casual use, I've had no issues using an LCD TV as a monitor (as long as it's running 1:1 pixel mapping).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 17, 2014 at 08:18 AM
i use tv po as my primary desktop pc.. for 5 years na..
i used 32" AOC 720p for 3 years
and now i use 55" LG 1080p also 3d for 2 years now..
my AOC was TN....
my LG according to my tests are ips.. (but im not sure)

they both look good to me.. kahit yung TN..

warning lang... medyo nakakalula 1st 3 days.. when i did this on my AOC... medyo nafeel ko nagsisi ako... dahil... too big for desktop.. but... after 3 days... sanay na... i even played alot of call of duty on both of them..

thank you sir, that's actually one of my concerns ... was really eyeing a 27-inch IPS panel monitor, but the price of the LG TV is very inviting ... pero di yata pwede sa akin yung 55-inch, yung main tv ko 51-inch lang :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 17, 2014 at 08:21 AM
Input lag may be higher on a TV. Color rendition may also be off out of the box, but calibration will largely compensate for that. For casual use, I've had no issues using an LCD TV as a monitor (as long as it's running 1:1 pixel mapping).

thanks for the feedback sir ... by the way, what do you mean by input lag - keyboard and mouse reaction?

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Mar 17, 2014 at 10:02 AM
(http://i57.tinypic.com/n4z20y.jpg)
btw here is my room pc... also my room tv..

the reason why i did 32" AOC then was to save money..
i was on crt monitor then with no tv in my room...tapos i wanted to upgrade lcd monitor + tv sa room.. kayalang no budget for that.. kaya naging 2 in 1.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Mar 17, 2014 at 10:06 AM
regarding the input lag na sinasabi ni sir stagea...
im thinking baka he means tv output lag po? tama po ba sir stagea?

if you are not a serious gamer.. i dont think it will matter..
i play alot of call of duty my tv is only 5ms.. i dont feel the lag..

but for serious gamers... they want 2ms tv/monitors
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 17, 2014 at 10:07 AM
(http://i57.tinypic.com/n4z20y.jpg)
btw here is my room pc... also my room tv..

the reason why i did 32" AOC then was to save money..
i was on crt monitor then with no tv in my room...tapos i wanted to upgrade lcd monitor + tv sa room.. kayalang no budget for that.. kaya naging 2 in 1.. hehe

same reason for me ... yung PC ko naman may tv tuner kaya ginagamit ko rin tv sa room ... ang masama lang, since hindi IPS yung panel, pag nanonood ako na nakahiga sa bed, washed out yung colors dahil limited ang good viewing angle ... that's why i'm targeting an IPS panel - tuluyan ko na siguro yung LG 32-inch na fullHD with 3D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Mar 17, 2014 at 10:10 AM
regarding the input lag na sinasabi ni sir stagea...
im thinking baka he means tv output lag po? tama po ba sir stagea?

if you are not a serious gamer.. i dont think it will matter..
i play alot of call of duty my tv is only 5ms.. i dont feel the lag..

but for serious gamers... they want 2ms tv/monitors

i'm ok if that's the case ... Starcraft was the last serious game that i played, and i stopped playing a couple of years ago - plants and zombies na lang linalaro ko :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Mar 17, 2014 at 10:33 AM
i'm ok if that's the case ... Starcraft was the last serious game that i played, and i stopped playing a couple of years ago - plants and zombies na lang linalaro ko :)

ako naman Angry Birds: Star Wars 2. ;D
Title: Re: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Mar 17, 2014 at 10:31 PM
thanks for the feedback sir ... by the way, what do you mean by input lag - keyboard and mouse reaction?

This is also known as display lag. TVs usually buffer a number of frames ahead of what's being shown on the screen for video processing.

You probably won't notice it for everyday tasks.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: rhodem24 on Mar 23, 2014 at 01:56 PM
Mga boss, I dunno if this is the right thread for this. But anyway,

I'm using XBMC on my main monitor, then extened it to my PC Monitor. My problem is that, when I'm playing a movie, and Facebook/browsing on the other monitor, the task bar wil show up.

How can I make XBMC on top of all windows including the Task bar? Or is it possible?

(http://i60.tinypic.com/s151eb.jpg)


Thanks,

Rhodem
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 23, 2014 at 02:04 PM
(http://i50.tinypic.com/28w19u0.jpg)

Try to toggle on the "Use a fullscreen video rather than true fullscreen" in Video settings.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jun 03, 2014 at 02:55 AM
almost complete with my new HTPC project, here are the specs -

- Cooler Master Mini 110 (Mini-ITX) casing
- Gigabyte F2A88XN-WIFI motherboard
- AMD A10-7850K Kaveri APU
- 8GB (4GB x2 G.Skill Rip Jaws 1600) Memory Module
- 1TB Seagate SSHD
- Windows 8 64-bit OEM
- Logitech K400R Wireless Keyboard with Touchpad

Still missing a 4TB HDD that I'm planning to purchase.  The setup is connected to a 32-inch LG 32LA6200 LED TV.  I've managed to setup the OS and updated all the drivers - took a bit of research before I got HDMI audio working.  Just need to setup XBMC and will post on the other thread to ask for tips.

I was originally going to purchase a SSD, but came across the new SSHD models from Seagate - price of 1TB is less than 256GB SSD.  I previously had an experience installing an earlier model to replace the HDD of my sister's laptop, and was quite impressed with the performance improvement, but that one was not as fast as an SSD.  This new model that I installed feels like I'm using an SSD, not sure if it's due to Windows 8 or the A10-7850k processor, but Windows 8 boot-up speed is just around 15 seconds.  My other PC is a core-i7 with Crucial M400 SSD, and it takes much longer to boot on Windows 7.

Overall I'm quite satisfied with the build - looks to have good performance, and the ITX form factor is really nice to have - this is the smallest PC I've ever built.  Cable management is a challenge though.  I forgot to mention that the CPU runs cool relatively using the small heatsink and fan that came with it - just between 36 to 41 degrees, and it's very quiet.  I'll post some pictures later.

Adding the pics -

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5532/14382347982_0195ebb2d5_c.jpg)

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2921/14197329287_7b8ef53d60_b.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5504/14403933953_6df6a76d92_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jun 03, 2014 at 04:55 PM
almost complete with my new HTPC project, here are the specs -

- Cooler Master Mini 110 (Mini-ITX) casing
- Gigabyte F2A88XN-WIFI motherboard
- AMD A10-7850K Kaveri APU
- 8GB (4GB x2 G.Skill Rip Jaws 1600) Memory Module
- 1TB Seagate SSHD
- Windows 8 64-bit OEM
- Logitech K400R Wireless Keyboard with Touchpad

Still missing a 4TB HDD that I'm planning to purchase.  The setup is connected to a 32-inch LG 32LA6200 LED TV.  I've managed to setup the OS and updated all the drivers - took a bit of research before I got HDMI audio working.  Just need to setup XBMC and will post on the other thread to ask for tips.

I was originally going to purchase a SSD, but came across the new SSHD models from Seagate - price of 1TB is less than 256GB SSD.  I previously had an experience installing an earlier model to replace the HDD of my sister's laptop, and was quite impressed with the performance improvement, but that one was not as fast as an SSD.  This new model that I installed feels like I'm using an SSD, not sure if it's due to Windows 8 or the A10-7850k processor, but Windows 8 boot-up speed is just around 15 seconds.  My other PC is a core-i7 with Crucial M400 SSD, and it takes much longer to boot on Windows 7.

Overall I'm quite satisfied with the build - looks to have good performance, and the ITX form factor is really nice to have - this is the smallest PC I've ever built.  Cable management is a challenge though.  I forgot to mention that the CPU runs cool relatively using the small heatsink and fan that came with it - just between 36 to 41 degrees, and it's very quiet.  I'll post some pictures later.


nice build sir! I'm also planning to build an htpc using the CM Elite 110 itx. btw, I think the fast(er) boost speed you got was due to Win 8 + the SSHD.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: saolmatt on Jun 04, 2014 at 08:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqt05xahzZI&feature=gp-n-y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqt05xahzZI&feature=gp-n-y)

sharing my youtube video on how to use XBMC Remote Android application  :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: titor on Jun 24, 2014 at 04:38 AM
any input on this? nakita ko lang sa pchub fb page naka sale at 3400 so it's pretty cheap for a mobo/procie. Only thing i don't like is 2 lang yung SATA connectors.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Q1900M/
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jun 24, 2014 at 04:55 PM
guys.. kaya ba maging htpc ng j1900?
sa alam ko 1080p kaya.. kaya kaya 1080p 3d movies?
thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: vladimireury on Jun 24, 2014 at 05:15 PM
masters, any input about this product "Gigabyte BRIX Pro / Ultra Compact PC kit  model GB-BXi7-4770R" a haswell core i7 processor with iris pro 5200 graphics. plan to use this for HTPC and some Photo/Video Editing. nakaka  tempt kasi yung specs at saka hindi naman siya overprice. sa newegg you can buy this one for only $619 for a barebone product and $888 with 16 gig of RAM and 240 Gig of mSATA SSD. Hope this well sold locally.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4888#ov
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1671221
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jun 24, 2014 at 06:15 PM
guys gawan ko sana ng htpc kapatid ko as a gift.. di siya techie... kaya basic player 1080p player lang.. kung pwede 3d 1080p

coolermaster htpc w/ psu
asrock j1900 cpu/mobo
2gb ram
dvdrw
2tb hd
logitech k400R keyboard

budgetted lang po.. any suggestions?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jun 24, 2014 at 06:34 PM
guys gawan ko sana ng htpc kapatid ko as a gift.. di siya techie... kaya basic player 1080p player lang.. kung pwede 3d 1080p

coolermaster htpc w/ psu
asrock j1900 cpu/mobo
2gb ram
dvdrw
2tb hd
logitech k400R keyboard

budgetted lang po.. any suggestions?

hindi ko sure kung "strong enough" ang built-in celeron cpu + int graphics nyan for Full HD playback. I suggest kumuha ka kahit B81/B85 + Celeron combo para may flexibility ka sa cpu. saka gawin mo at least 4GB ang ram.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jun 24, 2014 at 07:48 PM
thanks sir:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 25, 2014 at 02:05 AM
guys.. kaya ba maging htpc ng j1900?
sa alam ko 1080p kaya.. kaya kaya 1080p 3d movies?
thanks

"Atom"-based ata yan sir (Bay Trail), slower sya than the Haswell Celerons. It does not fully support the Quicksync or InTru™ 3D feature set, but supposedly 3D BDs do work (according to reviewers).

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 25, 2014 at 07:22 AM
I have an AMD E350 build with 4GB RAM and a dedicated VC which can play full HD Remuxed videos flawlessly. Even BDs kaya.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jun 25, 2014 at 10:44 AM
"Atom"-based ata yan sir (Bay Trail), slower sya than the Haswell Celerons. It does not fully support the Quicksync or InTru™ 3D feature set, but supposedly 3D BDs do work (according to reviewers).



actually sir interested ako sa j1900 dahil.. nung introductory ng baytrail atom... medyo sinasabi nila breakthru daw.. dahil sa power efficiency... it is quad core.. and complete system daw including hd etc..

yes j1900 is baytrail.. cranked up version daw nung atom sa mga microsoft tablets ngayon like sa dell venue 8 pro / asus t100 / hp omni.. sabi sa forums/reviews it consumes way less power yet not far behind from i3 performance? complete system daw can go below 10w?

my friend has a dell venue 8 pro which is the j1900's little brother battery lasts 10hours on full windows...
searching about that dell venue 8 pro... kaya niya magplay ng 1080p sa tvs with proper cables..

dell venue 8 pro's specs
atom quadcore baytrail..
2gb ram
32gb/64gb
full windows 8.1

kaya nung nakita ko lumabas big brother... j1900.. i was very excited.. and medyo iniisip kong gayahin ang specs.. sabi daw kasi... windows 8.1... comfortable at 2gbram? totoo kaya?
im still on windows 7..

i have not tried j1900, windows 8 etc.. kaya puros question mark pa ako.. hehe
habol ko din sa j1900 is fanless.. 
i use to have a fanless setup.. sarap gamitin... iba pala talaga fanless..
Title: Re: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 25, 2014 at 02:30 PM
actually sir interested ako sa j1900 dahil.. nung introductory ng baytrail atom... medyo sinasabi nila breakthru daw.. dahil sa power efficiency... it is quad core.. and complete system daw including hd etc..

yes j1900 is baytrail.. cranked up version daw nung atom sa mga microsoft tablets ngayon like sa dell venue 8 pro / asus t100 / hp omni.. sabi sa forums/reviews it consumes way less power yet not far behind from i3 performance? complete system daw can go below 10w?

my friend has a dell venue 8 pro which is the j1900's little brother battery lasts 10hours on full windows...
searching about that dell venue 8 pro... kaya niya magplay ng 1080p sa tvs with proper cables..

dell venue 8 pro's specs
atom quadcore baytrail..
2gb ram
32gb/64gb
full windows 8.1

kaya nung nakita ko lumabas big brother... j1900.. i was very excited.. and medyo iniisip kong gayahin ang specs.. sabi daw kasi... windows 8.1... comfortable at 2gbram? totoo kaya?
im still on windows 7..

i have not tried j1900, windows 8 etc.. kaya puros question mark pa ako.. hehe
habol ko din sa j1900 is fanless.. 
i use to have a fanless setup.. sarap gamitin... iba pala talaga fanless..
Not far behind when it comes to OS responsiveness in my opinion. Very responsive kasi talaga ang Windows 8/8.1 compared to prior versions.

However when running CPU-intensive applications, noticeably slower sya in my opinion. If you keep the task manager open mapapansin mo na medyo madali masaturate yung processor when multitasking. Even sa paglaunch lang ng MS Office or multiple Chrome tabs running Flash websites masasaturate sya. It is a lot faster than prior variants and it will do for most people, pero I can't say na malapit ang performance nya sa Haswell.

If system performance isn't a huge consideration, I think it will do. Mas responsive pa din yan sa dedicated media players in most cases. Hindi ko pa sya natest sa 3D though, but people are saying na kaya nya. In case hindi kayanin, you can plug a passive-cooled R5 230 for less than a couple of thousand pesos. This gets you 4K capability as a bonus, given that the CPU is enough to handle its share of the decoding.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jun 25, 2014 at 05:43 PM
thanks sir stagea.. natry mo na j1900? actually curious ako sa j1900... if ok nabuo kong htpc para sa kapatid ko.. parang gusto ko din palitan pcs namin sa office.. na medyo matagal nadin.. mga c2d pa... yung iba early c2d pa.. forgot the codes na.. yung tipong E4500 pa.. hehe since budgetted din sa office.. plan ko din similar setup...

thanks.. atleast may fallback pa for 4k.. thanks for suggestion:D tingin tingin din ako iba.. habang di pa nakabili... natakot din ako mabitin e
Title: Re: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 26, 2014 at 03:17 AM
thanks sir stagea.. natry mo na j1900? actually curious ako sa j1900... if ok nabuo kong htpc para sa kapatid ko.. parang gusto ko din palitan pcs namin sa office.. na medyo matagal nadin.. mga c2d pa... yung iba early c2d pa.. forgot the codes na.. yung tipong E4500 pa.. hehe since budgetted din sa office.. plan ko din similar setup...

thanks.. atleast may fallback pa for 4k.. thanks for suggestion:D tingin tingin din ako iba.. habang di pa nakabili... natakot din ako mabitin e
I've only used quad-core Bay Trail portables, the fastest being the Venue 11 Pro claiming a 2.4Ghz boost clock. None of them approach Haswell performance, but they work on a different power budget.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Jul 03, 2014 at 02:23 PM
almost complete with my new HTPC project, here are the specs -

- Cooler Master Mini 110 (Mini-ITX) casing
- Gigabyte F2A88XN-WIFI motherboard
- AMD A10-7850K Kaveri APU
- 8GB (4GB x2 G.Skill Rip Jaws 1600) Memory Module
- 1TB Seagate SSHD
- Windows 8 64-bit OEM
- Logitech K400R Wireless Keyboard with Touchpad

Adding the pics -

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5532/14382347982_0195ebb2d5_c.jpg)

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2921/14197329287_7b8ef53d60_b.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5504/14403933953_6df6a76d92_c.jpg)


Ganda naman po sir! Magkano po inabot ng price nito? Tsaka ask ko po kung magkano itong Cooler Master Mini 110 (Mini-ITX) casing (available po ba ito sa pinas?) Salamat po!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jul 03, 2014 at 04:45 PM
Ganda naman po sir! Magkano po inabot ng price nito? Tsaka ask ko po kung magkano itong Cooler Master Mini 110 (Mini-ITX) casing (available po ba ito sa pinas?) Salamat po!

case is available locally, i bought it from Dynaquest, you can search TPC ... most of the components were brought from Dynaquest in Sucat, Paranaque (they also have other branches) ... case was actually cheap since it already comes with PSU and is a reputable brand ... i made some modifications from the original setup i posted above - added a 4TB HDD, replaced the CPU fan and heat sink with a Noctua low profile cooler, and also replaced the 60mm fan with a Noctua silent fan ... below is the overall cost (what i was planning to be a low cost build turned out expensive, damn impulsive buying) -

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5567/14562074744_85b531ae30.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jul 03, 2014 at 05:06 PM
case is available locally, i bought it from Dynaquest, you can search TPC ... most of the components were brought from Dynaquest in Sucat, Paranaque (they also have other branches) ... case was actually cheap since it already comes with PSU and is a reputable brand ... i made some modifications from the original setup i posted above - added a 4TB HDD, replaced the CPU fan and heat sink with a Noctua low profile cooler, and also replaced the 60mm fan with a Noctua silent fan ... below is the overall cost (what i was planning to be a low cost build turned out expensive, damn impulsive buying) -

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5567/14562074744_85b531ae30.jpg)

how's the built-in psu? stable naman ba cya so far? can a low-profile video card fit in it?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jul 03, 2014 at 05:29 PM
how's the built-in psu? stable naman ba cya so far? can a low-profile video card fit in it?

stable naman sir, but there's no option for video card - no slot on the motherboard, and will not physically fit the case ... the build was really intended as HTPC only
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jul 03, 2014 at 05:32 PM
stable naman sir, but there's no option for video card - no slot on the motherboard, and will not physically fit the case ... the build was really intended as HTPC only

thanks for the insight. I guess this case won't do for my 7750. an APU setup would be the best use of it. (like your setup, raptor. ;) )
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jul 03, 2014 at 05:38 PM
thanks for the insight. I guess this case won't do for my 7750. an APU setup would be the best use of it. (like your setup, raptor. ;) )

checkout the Silverstone HTPC case that Chorus is selling on the market place, 3k lang ... i would have gotten that one if it was posted earlier
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Chorus on Jul 03, 2014 at 08:56 PM
checkout the Silverstone HTPC case that Chorus is selling on the market place, 3k lang ... i would have gotten that one if it was posted earlier

thanks

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Jul 04, 2014 at 01:29 PM
case is available locally, i bought it from Dynaquest, you can search TPC ... most of the components were brought from Dynaquest in Sucat, Paranaque (they also have other branches) ... case was actually cheap since it already comes with PSU and is a reputable brand ... i made some modifications from the original setup i posted above - added a 4TB HDD, replaced the CPU fan and heat sink with a Noctua low profile cooler, and also replaced the 60mm fan with a Noctua silent fan ... below is the overall cost (what i was planning to be a low cost build turned out expensive, damn impulsive buying)

Panalo itong setup mo sir! Congrats!

Noob question po sa lahat ng mga kaibigan natin :) Ano po advantage ng isang ITX Mobo sa isang Standard Mobo. Price, SIze, Power and versatility.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jul 04, 2014 at 03:26 PM
Panalo itong setup mo sir! Congrats!

Noob question po sa lahat ng mga kaibigan natin :) Ano po advantage ng isang ITX Mobo sa isang Standard Mobo. Price, SIze, Power and versatility.

primarily the size ... and with lesser component you can fit in, definitely lower consumption
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: titor on Jul 05, 2014 at 01:07 AM
Panalo itong setup mo sir! Congrats!

Noob question po sa lahat ng mga kaibigan natin :) Ano po advantage ng isang ITX Mobo sa isang Standard Mobo. Price, SIze, Power and versatility.

Price = normally mas mahal ang ITX compared to Matx or ATX of the same model
Power = same if you use the same components. the more components you plug in the higher
versatility = it will fit in almost any case however you will be restricted to lesser components. eg. lesser SATA ports, PCI slots, ram slots.

so it's up to you kung ano talaga need mo. For me mas practical ang Matx board.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Jul 05, 2014 at 11:53 AM
still using the same old setup, masyadong stable kaya hindi makapag-upgrade. 24/7 operation, Torrent/HTPC rig. :)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/PC-Q27/Q27_Running_zps72288ef4.jpg)

Intel Core i5-2500K
ASRock Z77-E ITX
Adata XPG 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz
2 x 3TB HDD
Lian Li PC-Q27 ITX Case
FSP 300W mATX PSU (80PLUS)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jul 05, 2014 at 05:48 PM
still using the same old setup, masyadong stable kaya hindi makapag-upgrade. 24/7 operation, Torrent/HTPC rig. :)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/PC-Q27/Q27_Running_zps72288ef4.jpg)

Intel Core i5-2500K
ASRock Z77-E ITX
Adata XPG 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz
2 x 3TB HDD
Lian Li PC-Q27 ITX Case
FSP 300W mATX PSU (80PLUS)


nice htpc setup sir! :)  I have the same cpu just lying in its box in my room, waiting to get a new home. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Jul 07, 2014 at 01:07 PM
^thanks. hope your i5-2500K get some action soon.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: eyeyousee™ on Jul 15, 2014 at 01:04 PM
Ito ipapalit ko sa Cooler Master HAF-XB ko.

(http://www.fractal-design.com/media.ashx/fd-ca-node-605-bl11000x1000.jpg)

http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-605 (http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-605)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jul 15, 2014 at 08:01 PM
Ito ipapalit ko sa Cooler Master HAF-XB ko.

(http://www.fractal-design.com/media.ashx/fd-ca-node-605-bl11000x1000.jpg)

http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-605 (http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-605)

nice one sir, how much is it?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jul 15, 2014 at 08:32 PM
ganda sir.. :D gusto ko din niyan..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jul 15, 2014 at 08:58 PM
ganda sir.. :D gusto ko din niyan..

oo nga e, kung mura parang gusto ko palitan case ng new build ko :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jul 16, 2014 at 08:40 AM
nung pinost mo sinilip ko agad sa tpc.. hehe.. di pala available satin.. maganda din naman ginamit mo.. cm... ako din cm na htpc... hehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Jul 17, 2014 at 12:20 PM
nung pinost mo sinilip ko agad sa tpc.. hehe.. di pala available satin.. maganda din naman ginamit mo.. cm... ako din cm na htpc... hehehe


anong model bro ng CM htpc casing mo & magkano?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jul 18, 2014 at 10:01 PM
facedout napo cm htpc ko.. medyo oldschool.. nalimot ko na magkano kuha ko... very happy naman with it... now dad ko na gumagamit ng htpc... nag mini tower na kasi ako for my htpc... sikip ng slim htpc e..
cm htpc 262
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/z/qDoAAOxyrP9RbaX9/$T2eC16RHJHwE9n8ihqsIBRb,%289dnOg~~60_35.JPG)
http://item.jd.com/132921.html
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: wengkapre on Jul 21, 2014 at 10:47 AM
facedout napo cm htpc ko.. medyo oldschool.. nalimot ko na magkano kuha ko... very happy naman with it... now dad ko na gumagamit ng htpc... nag mini tower na kasi ako for my htpc... sikip ng slim htpc e..
cm htpc 262
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/z/qDoAAOxyrP9RbaX9/$T2eC16RHJHwE9n8ihqsIBRb,%289dnOg~~60_35.JPG)
http://item.jd.com/132921.html


thanks for the prompt reply bro

wala akong makitang seller ng 262 sa tpc  :(
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: eyeyousee™ on Jul 21, 2014 at 10:20 PM
ganda sir.. :D gusto ko din niyan..
oo nga e, kung mura parang gusto ko palitan case ng new build ko :)
nung pinost mo sinilip ko agad sa tpc.. hehe.. di pala available satin.. maganda din naman ginamit mo.. cm... ako din cm na htpc... hehehe

Dito sa riyadh, 600 Riyals so mga 6K plus ito.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jul 24, 2014 at 01:32 PM
6TB HDDs had entered the mainstream. 6TB consumer drives from both WD and Seagate are going for $299.

8TB and 10TB models are coming (8TB samples are out there).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Jul 24, 2014 at 01:57 PM
6TB HDDs had entered the mainstream. 6TB consumer drives from both WD and Seagate are going for $299.

8TB and 10TB models are coming (8TB samples are out there).

thank you sir for the update ... target ko 6TB next US trip, enough for me to backup my important files and movie collection
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Oct 14, 2014 at 10:49 AM
Meron na po ba 6TB dito sa pinas na available?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: espionage on Oct 14, 2014 at 01:16 PM
Meron na po ba 6TB dito sa pinas na available?
+1
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: titor on Oct 15, 2014 at 12:39 AM
Meron na po ba 6TB dito sa pinas na available?

Saw an ad... medyo mahal pa... 12,499 for WD green and 13,999 for WD red

http://www.pcworx.ph/
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: cHess on Oct 16, 2014 at 05:06 PM
Mahal pa 6TB. But even for 4TB medyo mahal pa rin.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Jan 22, 2015 at 07:58 AM
my Old HTPC | AMD A8-3850
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10246624_10203983763342635_1777966965851393626_n.jpg?oh=9339053f4d1e5f589d1ed35ba937295b&oe=555BEE8A&__gda__=1429000687_cc0cb178a8e8d2c85cdfe03e606feb73)

my upcoming HTPC Case | Jonsbo V4
(http://www.jonsbo.com/images/g104/sweetpic1.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Chorus on Jan 22, 2015 at 01:54 PM
my Old HTPC | AMD A8-3850
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10246624_10203983763342635_1777966965851393626_n.jpg?oh=9339053f4d1e5f589d1ed35ba937295b&oe=555BEE8A&__gda__=1429000687_cc0cb178a8e8d2c85cdfe03e606feb73)

my upcoming HTPC Case | Jonsbo V4
(http://www.jonsbo.com/images/g104/sweetpic1.jpg)

ganda bro ng future case mo. kapag ioout mo na yung lian li bulong mo sa akin price tanx
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jaime4i on Jan 22, 2015 at 04:18 PM
@chorus: Sir meron pang Brand New Lian-Li PC-V354 sa tipidpc, nasa 7K :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Jul 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM
Silverstone has two new casings for HTPC or Gaming use. Milo ML08 and Raven RZ02 are the same internally (just like last year models Milo ML07 and Raven RVZ01)..

Milo ML08:

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=607&area=en (http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=607&area=en)

Raven RVZ02:

http://www.silverstonetek.com/raven/products/index.php?model=RVZ02&area=en&top=C (http://www.silverstonetek.com/raven/products/index.php?model=RVZ02&area=en&top=C)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: GIJoe on Jan 18, 2016 at 09:37 AM
Hmm ano kaya performance nitobf mobo with amd A4 quadcore unfortunately ang available lang sa atin is yung 2 sata slot.

(https://gzhls.at/p/1212895.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 20, 2016 at 02:01 AM
(http://i66.tinypic.com/spk9bl.jpg)
(http://i66.tinypic.com/11bsnsi.jpg)
my lately upgraded office pc using htpc case

habey aluminum case
asrock itx j1900
crucial 2x8gb sodimm ddr3
crucial 500gb ssd
WD black 500gb 2.5"hd
cdrking usb wifi
logitech k350 wave keyboard
logitech anywhere mouse mx
logitech k400 keyboard touchpad
23" hanspree touchscreed lcd
lg slim dvd drive

ricemode: old asus sticker from an old 775 motherboard.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Jan 20, 2016 at 05:45 AM
san mo nabili young case sir?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Jan 20, 2016 at 07:46 AM
abroad sir.. usa..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 05, 2016 at 12:54 PM
guys.. incase meron interested sa case ko. i have some in-coming may dvd slot siya sa harap.
for itx only and kasama na psu..
let me know pag gusto pareserve.
thanks

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/xWcAAOSwfZ1WZusx/s-l400.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Apr 05, 2016 at 02:24 PM
How much?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 05, 2016 at 02:58 PM
3800php sir.. pasensya na sa mga hindi interested.. o.t. :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 06, 2016 at 02:06 AM
3800php sir.. pasensya na sa mga hindi interested.. o.t. :D
anong brand bro AC?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 06, 2016 at 02:31 AM
habey po... exact model is EMC-800SL.. hehe bought 2 for myself... nagdagdag nadin ako para di sayang shipping.. pero pinatangal ko box bulky kasi... hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 06, 2016 at 04:04 AM
habey po... exact model is EMC-800SL.. hehe bought 2 for myself... nagdagdag nadin ako para di sayang shipping.. pero pinatangal ko box bulky kasi... hehe
ganda kasi bro, parang lian li :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 06, 2016 at 01:42 PM
ganda kasi bro, parang lian li :)
yes.. ganda...
simple fanless.. big downside... hehe walang usb ports sa harap.. hehe why kaya di nilagyan noh? sayang
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 07, 2016 at 12:36 AM
yes.. ganda...
simple fanless.. big downside... hehe walang usb ports sa harap.. hehe why kaya di nilagyan noh? sayang
ako mas prefer ko may USB port outside the case via usb extension cable ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 17, 2016 at 09:14 AM
ako mas prefer ko may USB port outside the case via usb extension cable ;D

Bro kamusta HTPC kuha mo sakin?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 17, 2016 at 08:42 PM
My new project. Skylake mini-ITX HTPC.

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
Board: ASRock H170M-ITX/ac
RAM: ADATA XPG 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 2133
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
HDD: WD Green 2TB
Casing: Silverstone Fortress FTZ01
PSU: Silverstone SFX-300W 80PLUS Bronze

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%201_zpsa2nmja7x.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%202_zpsjjioogas.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%203_zpsjjkdpwzl.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%204_zpsxiybujio.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%205_zpsfgkcweob.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%206_zpsuw7t6wl6.jpg)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Apr 17, 2016 at 09:18 PM
My new project. Skylake mini-ITX HTPC.

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
Board: ASRock H170M-ITX/ac
RAM: ADATA XPG 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 2133
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
HDD: WD Green 2TB
Casing: Silverstone Fortress FTZ01
PSU: Silverstone SFX-300W 80PLUS Bronze

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%201_zpsa2nmja7x.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%202_zpsjjioogas.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%203_zpsjjkdpwzl.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%204_zpsxiybujio.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%205_zpsfgkcweob.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%206_zpsuw7t6wl6.jpg)



very nice! congrats! :D

where did you buy your FTZ01 case btw? pabulong. ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 18, 2016 at 01:37 PM
very nice! congrats! :D

where did you buy your FTZ01 case btw? pabulong. ;D

Thanks bro. I ordered from abroad.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 19, 2016 at 04:10 AM
wow very nice build sir :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: painted_black on Apr 19, 2016 at 10:45 AM
My new project. Skylake mini-ITX HTPC.

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
Board: ASRock H170M-ITX/ac
RAM: ADATA XPG 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 2133
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
HDD: WD Green 2TB
Casing: Silverstone Fortress FTZ01
PSU: Silverstone SFX-300W 80PLUS Bronze

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%201_zpsa2nmja7x.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%202_zpsjjioogas.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%203_zpsjjkdpwzl.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%204_zpsxiybujio.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%205_zpsfgkcweob.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%206_zpsuw7t6wl6.jpg)



sir,
Magkano ang inabot ng build mo?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 19, 2016 at 01:58 PM
sir,
Magkano ang inabot ng build mo?

30k plus shipping.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 19, 2016 at 04:53 PM
sir dm1179.. kaya na niyan 4k?
hindi na kasi ako updated.. ano po cheapest mobo/proc na kaya na 4k? hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Apr 19, 2016 at 05:06 PM
sir dm1179.. kaya na niyan 4k?
hindi na kasi ako updated.. ano po cheapest mobo/proc na kaya na 4k? hehe

kaya na yan ng 4K. hindi nga lang at 60hz (60fps).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 19, 2016 at 05:10 PM
sir DTNS... di kasi ako marunong sa ganyan.. sa normal na computer 30 or 60hz? 60 no? thanks
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 19, 2016 at 07:37 PM
sir dm1179.. kaya na niyan 4k?
hindi na kasi ako updated.. ano po cheapest mobo/proc na kaya na 4k? hehe

Based on Intel Core i3-6100 spec, it can do 4K @ 60Hz using DisplayPort. However, my board only has HDMI so will output 4K @ 24Hz. This is also stated in ASRock board spec. No big deal as I only have 1080p TV. Plus I will not use the HTPC for gaming. 4K @ 24Hz is fine for movies by the way.

4K Support: Yes, at 60Hz
Max Resolution (HDMI 1.4): 4096x2304@24Hz
Max Resolution (DP): 4096x2304@60Hz

http://ark.intel.com/products/90729/Intel-Core-i3-6100-Processor-3M-Cache-3_70-GHz (http://ark.intel.com/products/90729/Intel-Core-i3-6100-Processor-3M-Cache-3_70-GHz)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 19, 2016 at 10:52 PM
thank you sir for the info..
ask ko nadin.. how about android players na 4k? do they support 60hz?
ngayon kasi htpc ko hangang 1080p lang.. wala padin ako 4k tv... but being a pc geek.. curious lang what cheapest setup can do 4k hehe
thanks:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 20, 2016 at 01:08 AM
Based on Intel Core i3-6100 spec, it can do 4K @ 60Hz using DisplayPort. However, my board only has HDMI so will output 4K @ 24Hz. This is also stated in ASRock board spec. No big deal as I only have 1080p TV. Plus I will not use the HTPC for gaming. 4K @ 24Hz is fine for movies by the way.

4K Support: Yes, at 60Hz
Max Resolution (HDMI 1.4): 4096x2304@24Hz
Max Resolution (DP): 4096x2304@60Hz

http://ark.intel.com/products/90729/Intel-Core-i3-6100-Processor-3M-Cache-3_70-GHz (http://ark.intel.com/products/90729/Intel-Core-i3-6100-Processor-3M-Cache-3_70-GHz)

Congrats on the new build!

There are active DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 adapters, in case you'd want to go UHD@60Hz later on. It's very popular for AMD users (since they are yet to have HDMI 2.0 on their dedicated GPUs), but it also works on Intel and Nvidia GPUs.

Running a screen at 24Hz is fine for movies, but can look funny on the desktop. You can notice the delay and choppiness in cursor movement and scrolling, for example. A lot of people do get used to it though.

thank you sir for the info..
ask ko nadin.. how about android players na 4k? do they support 60hz?
ngayon kasi htpc ko hangang 1080p lang.. wala padin ako 4k tv... but being a pc geek.. curious lang what cheapest setup can do 4k hehe
thanks:D

Some of the new ones supposedly can run UHD @ 60Hz. I have not used any of them though.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 20, 2016 at 04:16 AM
Bro kamusta HTPC kuha mo sakin?
ok lang bro, puro tv series lang ako ngayon. :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 20, 2016 at 11:51 AM
thank you sir for the info..
ask ko nadin.. how about android players na 4k? do they support 60hz?

New models like HiMedia Q10 PRO and Q5 PRO can do 4K @ 60Hz.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 21, 2016 at 10:38 PM
wow... talo pa pc common pcs.. hehe lumalamang na yata android..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jrcrunch on Apr 22, 2016 at 01:08 AM
sir dm1179 kaya 4k, atmos dts-x din? windows media gagamitin nyo? salamat
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 22, 2016 at 10:19 AM
sir dm1179 kaya 4k, atmos dts-x din? windows media gagamitin nyo? salamat

The HTPC is capable of 4K but I don't have 4K TV. I use 1080p TV. My default player is Mirillis Splash Pro with Motion2 enabled.

For the audio part, it is the AV Receiver that handles that. Make sure your AV Receiver supports Dolby Atmos, DTS-X, etc.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 22, 2016 at 10:41 AM
wow... talo pa pc common pcs.. hehe lumalamang na yata android..

Depende na lang sa use mo. Some prefer HTPC. Like me since I use it for other tasks as well. Some prefer media player naman.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 23, 2016 at 07:28 PM
Depende na lang sa use mo. Some prefer HTPC. Like me since I use it for other tasks as well. Some prefer media player naman.
ako din.. cant seem to replace windows to android yet....
notebook... i dont own one anymore... yun siguro.. pero pc.. parang di pa kaya palitan ng android.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jrcrunch on Apr 23, 2016 at 10:55 PM
The HTPC is capable of 4K but I don't have 4K TV. I use 1080p TV. My default player is Mirillis Splash Pro with Motion2 enabled.

For the audio part, it is the AV Receiver that handles that. Make sure your AV Receiver supports Dolby Atmos, DTS-X, etc.

thanks sir.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 25, 2016 at 03:47 PM
Done installing the hardware last weekend. Already installed Windows 10. Stress testing the HTPC now.

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20Setup%20End%201_zps3ugigyi5.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20Setup%20End%202_zpsttiwh07n.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20Setup%20End%203_zps9xbuw2yx.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: larokulit on Apr 25, 2016 at 09:02 PM
^Ang linis! Drool!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 25, 2016 at 09:55 PM
namiss ko magbuo ng ganyan :D binubuo ko ngayon puros entry e.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 26, 2016 at 02:13 AM
namiss ko magbuo ng ganyan :D binubuo ko ngayon puros entry e.. hehe

I can relate. Nagbabago ang priorities over time. :D

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Blackstar on Apr 26, 2016 at 07:52 AM
sign of aging kaya? before you would build the monster rig you have dreamed of. ngayon, just the essentials. no fuss, no frills. just the basics for your basic needs. hehehe.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 26, 2016 at 12:05 PM
sign of aging kaya? before you would build the monster rig you have dreamed of. ngayon, just the essentials. no fuss, no frills. just the basics for your basic needs. hehehe.

Maybe. In my case since I spend less time in front of my rig (and I really don't game), I can't justify the depreciation on high end hardware.

The only game that I play (if at all) is Rocket League. That game is built for consoles (it runs 1080p @ 60Hz on the Xbox One), so it is not demanding at all. It runs almost the same on my R9 390X as it does on my old GTX 480.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 27, 2016 at 03:57 PM
Finished with hardware stress testing. 62+ hours without any issue. Shut down muna para makapahinga.

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Task%20Manager_zpsznhew5he.png)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 27, 2016 at 03:59 PM
Will replace the cables later with these shorter SATA3 cables. Average length is 7.5 inches (19 cm).

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/SATA%20Cable%203_zpswsa54acl.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/SATA%20Cable%204_zpsfaptq4s7.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 27, 2016 at 11:57 PM
I can relate. Nagbabago ang priorities over time. :D



hahaha
truegeek... naalala ko noon.. pag bored.. daan muna gilmore silip lang pricelists.. tapos uuwi.. sulat sulat imaginary setup.. 10x ko gawin bago ako magbuo.. hehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 28, 2016 at 02:11 AM
hahaha
truegeek... naalala ko noon.. pag bored.. daan muna gilmore silip lang pricelists.. tapos uuwi.. sulat sulat imaginary setup.. 10x ko gawin bago ako magbuo.. hehehe
We might have bumped across each other then. LOL
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Blackstar on Apr 28, 2016 at 02:29 AM
We might have bumped across each other then. LOL

san kayo madalas non? ako pc options at pchub. hehehe.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 28, 2016 at 03:20 AM
san kayo madalas non? ako pc options at pchub. hehehe.
pcoptions ako most of the time until 2007
onwards techjunction of tpc na :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 28, 2016 at 03:23 AM
san kayo madalas non? ako pc options at pchub. hehehe.
PC Hub didn't exist then, so PC Options and PC Express when I was still studying. May kapitbahay din yung school na ThinkPC and Rising Sun then so napupuntahan ko din. It stopped in 2000 since I moved so naging Fry's naman tambayan ko. When I returned nadagdagan na shops sa Gilmore and I started going to other shops too (PC Hub more often than not).

Nowadays, it's largely a split between Gilmore and online.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on Apr 28, 2016 at 05:54 AM
sign of aging kaya? before you would build the monster rig you have dreamed of. ngayon, just the essentials. no fuss, no frills. just the basics for your basic needs. hehehe.

and due to gaining experience as well ... in the old days, I always had the top of the line video cards - starting from Vodoo cards until NVidia came to life, but I'm not even a serious gamer, hence I had the most expensive cards, but not maximizing those ... I'm always upgrading my setup trying to improve performance, even overclocking during the times when you have to physically modify something on the processor ... but what I learned is that those performance gains that you get on the benchmarks (whether it's CPU score or increase frame rates are not even noticeable on real world) ... If you frequently upgrade, the next higher CPU model or next revision does not really offer real-world CPU gain (exception is when Intel released Core CPU), additional memory and higher-end video card also does not offer any noticeable performance in the real-word especially if you're primarily using your PC for office productivity, browsing, media player, and mild gaming only ... what's really noticeable in real-world performance is when you're upgrading the system hard drive - even from 5400 rpm to 7200 rpm drives it is very noticeable, and jumping from HDD to SSD is definitely noticeable ... as you gain experience, you just target those practical upgrades

other areas - CPU cooling - once you get to liquid cooling, you'll no longer consider air cooling systems
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 28, 2016 at 07:01 AM
There was a time when memory timing changes made a noticeable impact. Old computers offered manual controls for a lot of things, and tweaking made a substantial impact a lot of times then. You can also replace a lot of things on the board (cache, clock crystal, coprocessor, etc.).




other areas - CPU cooling - once you get to liquid cooling, you'll no longer consider air cooling systems
Do you count phase change cooling as liquid cooling? I used to run indirect phase change cooling on a peltier effect device during the M1 days. The cost, bulk and noise quickly made it obsolete. :D

Direct phase change was developed by Kryotech later on, but it did not catch on.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 28, 2016 at 07:49 AM
Do you count phase change cooling as liquid cooling? I used to run indirect phase change cooling on a peltier effect device during the M1 days. The cost, bulk and noise quickly made it obsolete. :D

Direct phase change was developed by Kryotech later on, but it did not catch on.

naalala ko datis master, yun kinwento sakin boss ko yung peltier, akala ko kwentong kutsero lang ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 28, 2016 at 09:02 AM
naalala ko datis master, yun kinwento sakin boss ko yung peltier, akala ko kwentong kutsero lang ;D
Uso yun dati master nilalagay between the chip and your cooler. Panget pa packaging ng chips nun mataas ang thermal resistance so we lapped chips hanggang numipis then the Peltier device improves thermal transfer dahil sa malaki yung temperature difference nung interface between the package and the TEC device and between the TEC device and your radiator (whatever type you use).

Pag malalaking systems direct phase change talaga gamit noon. May refrigerant na yung cooler.

Pag maliit na system na di built for phase change, madalas indirect ang implementation. Trickle down ng mga gamit sa mini and mainframe computers of the era na may chiller.

Puro fabrication din noon at wala pang aftermarket products aside from peripherals nung early 90s. Sa galleria basement pa or park square ang bilihan ng piyesa (or virra mall). Mid 90s nagbukas ang PC options pero tindahan talaga ng bags and outdoor/travel stuff yun dati nagbranch out lang to computers. PC kasi meant Peter Chua (owner).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Apr 28, 2016 at 11:14 AM
and due to gaining experience as well ... in the old days, I always had the top of the line video cards - starting from Vodoo cards until NVidia came to life, but I'm not even a serious gamer, hence I had the most expensive cards, but not maximizing those ... I'm always upgrading my setup trying to improve performance, even overclocking during the times when you have to physically modify something on the processor ... but what I learned is that those performance gains that you get on the benchmarks (whether it's CPU score or increase frame rates are not even noticeable on real world) ... If you frequently upgrade, the next higher CPU model or next revision does not really offer real-world CPU gain (exception is when Intel released Core CPU), additional memory and higher-end video card also does not offer any noticeable performance in the real-word especially if you're primarily using your PC for office productivity, browsing, media player, and mild gaming only ... what's really noticeable in real-world performance is when you're upgrading the system hard drive - even from 5400 rpm to 7200 rpm drives it is very noticeable, and jumping from HDD to SSD is definitely noticeable ... as you gain experience, you just target those practical upgrades

other areas - CPU cooling - once you get to liquid cooling, you'll no longer consider air cooling systems

agree. same goes with making the switch to mechanical keyboards from membrane keyboards. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 28, 2016 at 12:05 PM
Uso yun dati master nilalagay between the chip and your cooler. Panget pa packaging ng chips nun mataas ang thermal resistance so we lapped chips hanggang numipis then the Peltier device improves thermal transfer dahil sa malaki yung temperature difference nung interface between the package and the TEC device and between the TEC device and your radiator (whatever type you use).

Pag malalaking systems direct phase change talaga gamit noon. May refrigerant na yung cooler.

Pag maliit na system na di built for phase change, madalas indirect ang implementation. Trickle down ng mga gamit sa mini and mainframe computers of the era na may chiller.

Puro fabrication din noon at wala pang aftermarket products aside from peripherals nung early 90s. Sa galleria basement pa or park square ang bilihan ng piyesa (or virra mall). Mid 90s nagbukas ang PC options pero tindahan talaga ng bags and outdoor/travel stuff yun dati nagbranch out lang to computers. PC kasi meant Peter Chua (owner).

naabutan ko yun nag liliha master though di sakin.  Medyo kabado pako sa pc hardware nun and "user" lang ako, puro counterstrike at starcraft lang alam ko hehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 28, 2016 at 02:10 PM
naabutan ko yun nag liliha master though di sakin.  Medyo kabado pako sa pc hardware nun and "user" lang ako, puro counterstrike at starcraft lang alam ko hehehe

Kung heatspreader lang or heatsink ang sinasand walang problem kasi metal naman yun usually. Matagal mapudpod. Normally yung mga yan nila-lap lang para pumantay yung mating surface (not really para numipis yung material dahil maganda na ang thermal conductivity ng copper or aluminum).

Yung mga luma nasa ilalim ng packaging yung silicon so may ceramic na makapal between the die and the heatsink. Kaya binabawasan yung packaging; mas manipis mas maganda as long as hindi mo abutin yung conductors from the pins (at hindi masira yung integrity ng package). The packaging was thick enough kaya yung iba nirerebadge yung mga IC packages noon (madaming fake CPUs), after lapping ineengrave ng ibang marking. Pati DRAM at SRAM nirerebadge noon ng iba.

Ganito mga packaging dati:
(http://cdn.cpu-world.com/CPUs/5x86/S_IBM-5x86-3V3100GF.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 28, 2016 at 04:47 PM
Done installing the short SATA3 cables.

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%20-%20SATA%20Cable%201_zpsfirkdazl.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%20-%20SATA%20Cable%202_zpsb2mqoooh.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 30, 2016 at 01:10 PM
Testing the power consumption of my Skylake mini-ITX HTPC.

As-built specification:

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 + Stock Intel HSF
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
Board: ASRock H170M-ITX/ac
RAM: ADATA XPG 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 2133
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
HDD 1: Seagate 2TB 3.5"
HDD 2: Hitachi 500GB 2.5"
Casing: Silverstone Fortress FTZ01
PSU: Silverstone SFX-300W 80PLUS Bronze
Fan 1: Silverstone 120mm, Slim type
Fan 2: Silverstone 120mm, Slim type
Fan 3: Enermax 120mm

Idle, Windows 10 desktop = 15W to 16W

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Power%2015W%20Idle_zpskozmi9qf.jpg)

FHD 1080p Playback, SplashPro + Motion2 (Max settings) = 35W to 50W

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Power%2035W-50W%20SplashPro%201080p_zpsvq1u0rxa.jpg)

100% CPU load, Prime95 = 47W to 48W

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Power%2047W-48W%20CPU%20100_zpssehcu5zr.jpg)

100% CPU + 100% GPU load, Prime95 + FurMark = 60W to 65W

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Power%2065W%20CPU%20100%20GPU%20100_zpstnci6vvt.jpg)

With these numbers, the Silverstone SFX-300W power supply won't even break a sweat.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 30, 2016 at 01:11 PM
Kung heatspreader lang or heatsink ang sinasand walang problem kasi metal naman yun usually. Matagal mapudpod. Normally yung mga yan nila-lap lang para pumantay yung mating surface (not really para numipis yung material dahil maganda na ang thermal conductivity ng copper or aluminum).

Yung mga luma nasa ilalim ng packaging yung silicon so may ceramic na makapal between the die and the heatsink. Kaya binabawasan yung plastic; mas manipis mas maganda as long as hindi mo abutin yung conductors from the pins (at hindi masira yung integrity ng package). The packaging was thick enough kaya yung iba nirerebadge yung mga IC packages noon (madaming fake CPUs), after lapping ineengrave ng ibang marking. Pati DRAM at SRAM nirerebadge noon ng iba.

Ganito mga packaging dati:
(http://cdn.cpu-world.com/CPUs/5x86/S_IBM-5x86-3V3100GF.jpg)
nakuh master mas matindi pala yan ginagawa mo ;D
may nakita ako noon naka socket 939 amd (IIRC) di niliha pero tinanggal nalang yung parang metal cover ng processor.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 30, 2016 at 01:12 PM
Done installing the short SATA3 cables.

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%20-%20SATA%20Cable%201_zpsfirkdazl.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%20-%20SATA%20Cable%202_zpsb2mqoooh.jpg)

bro kamusta SQ este transfer rate ng new sata cables ;D
seriously, for a mini bro, linis ng cabling mo :)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 30, 2016 at 01:30 PM
nakuh master mas matindi pala yan ginagawa mo ;D
may nakita ako noon naka socket 939 amd (IIRC) di niliha pero tinanggal nalang yung parang metal cover ng processor.



Delidding ginagawa pati sa Intel master. Mas malaki impact nya sa mga flip-chip designs (most ng CPUs/GPUs ngayon) since madalas asa ilalim lang nung heat spreader ang die. Yung mga lumang wire bonded chips medyo maliit ang improvement since mataas pa din yung thermal resistance nung maiiwan na barrier between the die and the cooling solution (the substrate itself).

Mabagal kasi ang hardware dati master para sa ibang software and ang mahal pa ng hardware dati, kaya kanya-kanyang paraan. Ang SCSI HDD pa lang dati buong PC na presyo ngayon (since mabagal talaga mga ATA HDDs dati), high end ones can approach the $1000 range (mura na pag below $500). Yung magagandang 2D graphics accelerators then asa $700 range din, yung mga flagship umaabot ng $1600. Medyo malaki pa ang value ng pera then so mas matagal ang upgrades lalo na pag estudyante mode. Kaya kanya kanyang improvise to prolong the useful life of hardware (dahil bumibigat ang software by leaps and bounds that time with every new version).
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 30, 2016 at 01:38 PM
bro kamusta SQ este transfer rate ng new sata cables ;D
seriously, for a mini bro, linis ng cabling mo :)

Bro, same speed lang ng stock SATA3 cables ng ASRock. All uses 26AWG wires. Length lang ang magkaiba (plus color for UV red and UV blue).

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/SATA3%2026AWG%20Cables_zpsvqchlb5z.jpg)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Apr 30, 2016 at 06:52 PM
ako din 3 shops palang noon..
pc corner, pc options and pc express? tama ba?
pero madalas options ako napapabili... madalas sakanya mura ng malayo.. minsan mas mura kay pc corner ng 12php... palagi 12 pesos..
kasi... example kay pc options 1000php ... kay pccorner 988... hehe
sayang din 12php.. kaya dun ko binibili.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 30, 2016 at 07:53 PM
ako din 3 shops palang noon..
pc corner, pc options and pc express? tama ba?
pero madalas options ako napapabili... madalas sakanya mura ng malayo.. minsan mas mura kay pc corner ng 12php... palagi 12 pesos..
kasi... example kay pc options 1000php ... kay pccorner 988... hehe
sayang din 12php.. kaya dun ko binibili.. hehe
Tama bro. Bihira kasi ako makabili sa PC Corner that time except pag notebook (konti notebooks dati ng pc options). Wala sila masyadong interesting desktop products. Dati PC Options ako for desktop hardware o kaya sa PC Express or Villman (or any other store, minsan deretso sa distro pag hard to find ang part). Wala gaanong SCSI products dati sa Gilmore so sa Villman or sa Galleria Park Avenue ako humahanap.

Hindi din uso multicore before. Pag SMP setup multiprocessor motherboard kelangan. Pag ganun ang gusto either by order or deretso sa distro.
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Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 30, 2016 at 08:02 PM
(dahil bumibigat ang software by leaps and bounds that time with every new version).
parang baliktad ngayon, or dahil di na siguro ako updated ;D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Apr 30, 2016 at 10:50 PM
parang baliktad ngayon, or dahil di na siguro ako updated ;D
Oo master ang tagal na ng life ng hardware ngayon. Dati pag one or two year/s old ang PC ang bagal na compared sa asa store. Kasi in two years doble na ang clock speed ng former flagship na gamit mo ang asa stores. On the third year bagong architecture na normally so kung di ka mag upgrade di mo ma take advantage yung latest features ng bagong software. In 4-5 years sobrang obsolete na yun. Ngayon ang 10 year old PC (Core 2 Duo) magagamit pa.
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Post by: AC on May 01, 2016 at 03:15 AM
Tama bro. Bihira kasi ako makabili sa PC Corner that time except pag notebook (konti notebooks dati ng pc options). Wala sila masyadong interesting desktop products. Dati PC Options ako for desktop hardware o kaya sa PC Express or Villman (or any other store, minsan deretso sa distro pag hard to find ang part). Wala gaanong SCSI products dati sa Gilmore so sa Villman or sa Galleria Park Avenue ako humahanap.

Hindi din uso multicore before. Pag SMP setup multiprocessor motherboard kelangan. Pag ganun ang gusto either by order or deretso sa distro.

hehe naalala ko na.. nung nauso and naging abot kaya nga laptops... pc corner ang malakas... naalala ko daming luxury cars nakaparada sa labas... puros dun yata sa may ari.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on May 01, 2016 at 06:33 AM
hehe naalala ko na.. nung nauso and naging abot kaya nga laptops... pc corner ang malakas... naalala ko daming luxury cars nakaparada sa labas... puros dun yata sa may ari.. hehe

Yup bro. Sila nagstart magbenta below SRP ng notebooks on a regular basis. Before kasi parepareho ang price ng notebook anywhere you go. Minsan three years na ang tanda ng notebook na binebenta hindi pa bumabagsak ang presyo until magliquidation sale ang store or ang distro. Malaki pa din kasi ang chance na mabili lalo na ng less informed buyers; yung mga nagtatanong lang sa salesperson kung ano ang "latest" or "maganda" ay madalas natatarget.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on May 01, 2016 at 06:58 AM
hahaha.. oonga dati pag may friends ako din na bibili.. tinuturo ko sa pccorner. madami kasing shops noon.. kahit luma.. few generations ago na ang benta.. minsan mas mahal pa sa presyo ng latest talaga. hehe
kaya madami shops galit noon sa pc corner.. naalala ko meron nagsasabi.. chopchop daw sila.. ninanakaw daw laman.. etc.. imho dali kausap ng mga tao dun.. lalo na pag andun yung boss.. parang ayaw magpaalis ng customer ng di bumibili.. bibigay talaga sa presyo na masaya ka..
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on May 01, 2016 at 07:06 AM
ako din 3 shops palang noon..
pc corner, pc options and pc express? tama ba?
pero madalas options ako napapabili... madalas sakanya mura ng malayo.. minsan mas mura kay pc corner ng 12php... palagi 12 pesos..
kasi... example kay pc options 1000php ... kay pccorner 988... hehe
sayang din 12php.. kaya dun ko binibili.. hehe

sa mga nakatira sa Malate area, meron yung Rising Sun na shop ... pero wala na to ngayon ... ang uso noon, download ng price list ng mga shops at compare palagi ng presyo kahit walang pambili :) ... then came Villman which has a good website, dahil hindi lang price list, pati pictures at component description meron
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Post by: Stagea on May 01, 2016 at 07:25 AM
sa mga nakatira sa Malate area, meron yung Rising Sun na shop ... pero wala na to ngayon ... ang uso noon, download ng price list ng mga shops at compare palagi ng presyo kahit walang pambili :) ... then came Villman which has a good website, dahil hindi lang price list, pati pictures at component description meron
Yung along Taft sir? Branch ata siya nung asa Mandaluyong. Sila yung first na nagbenta ng mga modding parts.

Tatlo sila before in that area. ThinkPC first dun near Far East Bank (na wala na din), then Dreamchum opened (near PWU), last yun Rising Sun (near Shell). Rising Sun had a shop before along Shaw Blvd before they opened along Taft.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: raptor on May 01, 2016 at 08:14 AM
Yung along Taft sir? Branch ata siya nung asa Mandaluyong. Sila yung first na nagbenta ng mga modding parts.

Tatlo sila before in that area. ThinkPC first dun near Far East Bank (na wala na din), then Dreamchum opened (near PWU), last yun Rising Sun (near Shell). Rising Sun had a shop before along Shaw Blvd before they opened along Taft.


Yes sir, yung sa Taft - unfortunately bigla na lang sila nagsara ... yung Dreamchum was nearer to my place, but the problem with them is palaging out of stock ... at that time it was Rising Sun that was selling the high end stuff, although pag dating sa video cards, there was a shop in Greenhills which later had a branch in EDSA Shangrila na binibilhan ko - I forgot the name, but at that time they were famous for having the Vodoo cards, S3, and first releases of Nvidia
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on May 01, 2016 at 10:20 AM
haha.. napapaghalata na mga edad natin :D pasensya na sa mga di nakarelate.. :D seriously.. di ko alam ang risingsun... pero familiar nga.. hehe
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Post by: Stagea on May 01, 2016 at 10:48 AM
haha.. napapaghalata na mga edad natin :D pasensya na sa mga di nakarelate.. :D seriously.. di ko alam ang risingsun... pero familiar nga.. hehe
I know! :D Rising Sun sikat sila before yung along Shaw dahil sa kanila ka lang makakabili ng case modding stuff na uso noon (ducting, high rpm fans, copper heatsinks, lighting assemblies, braided cables, acrylic cases, water cooling parts, etc.).
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Post by: Blackstar on May 01, 2016 at 11:56 AM
Been to Rising Sun before. Naalala ko wala pang waze or google maps non kaya tanong tanong how to get there. Under the hot sun nagko-commute ako to find the part/s that I'm looking for. Aside from the fulfillment of setup up and making your rig work, the thrill of the hunt also ads to the satisfaction. Ngayon pwede ka na umorder online and have them delivered. Iba talaga appreciation level pag pinaghirapan mo yung binuo mo. Brings back memories mga sir. Hehehe.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joogeman on May 01, 2016 at 01:19 PM
very nice! congrats! :D

where did you buy your FTZ01 case btw? pabulong. ;D

wow could you PM me how much yung ganyang setup.. i want to get my mom a pc/ another palusot para makagawa ako ng htpc hahaha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joogeman on May 01, 2016 at 01:20 PM
My new project. Skylake mini-ITX HTPC.

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100
GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
Board: ASRock H170M-ITX/ac
RAM: ADATA XPG 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 2133
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
HDD: WD Green 2TB
Casing: Silverstone Fortress FTZ01
PSU: Silverstone SFX-300W 80PLUS Bronze

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%201_zpsa2nmja7x.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%202_zpsjjioogas.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%203_zpsjjkdpwzl.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%204_zpsxiybujio.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%205_zpsfgkcweob.jpg)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_PC/Skylake%20ITX/Skylake%20ITX%206_zpsuw7t6wl6.jpg)




wow could you PM me how much yung ganyang setup.. i want to get my mom a pc/ another palusot para makagawa ako ng htpc hahaha
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on May 01, 2016 at 01:59 PM
hahaha.. oonga dati pag may friends ako din na bibili.. tinuturo ko sa pccorner. madami kasing shops noon.. kahit luma.. few generations ago na ang benta.. minsan mas mahal pa sa presyo ng latest talaga. hehe
kaya madami shops galit noon sa pc corner.. naalala ko meron nagsasabi.. chopchop daw sila.. ninanakaw daw laman.. etc.. imho dali kausap ng mga tao dun.. lalo na pag andun yung boss.. parang ayaw magpaalis ng customer ng di bumibili.. bibigay talaga sa presyo na masaya ka..
ako sa laptop Villman talaga.  mas madali kausap sa warranty (im not sure ngayon 2 year old na yung latest laptop ko)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: ninjababez® on May 01, 2016 at 02:00 PM
Yung along Taft sir? Branch ata siya nung asa Mandaluyong. Sila yung first na nagbenta ng mga modding parts.

Tatlo sila before in that area. ThinkPC first dun near Far East Bank (na wala na din), then Dreamchum opened (near PWU), last yun Rising Sun (near Shell). Rising Sun had a shop before along Shaw Blvd before they opened along Taft.
meron pa ba dreamchum, like what bro raptor said lagi out of stock.  tapos sobrang mura package nila noon sa dyaryo ko pa nababasa hehehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 01, 2016 at 04:42 PM
^I remember sinama pa ko ng uncle ko dyan sa Dreamchum. Dyan sya bumibili ng computer, tapos inuuwi sa province para ibenta.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 01, 2016 at 04:42 PM
wow could you PM me how much yung ganyang setup.. i want to get my mom a pc/ another palusot para makagawa ako ng htpc hahaha

PM sent.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on May 01, 2016 at 06:09 PM
meron pa ba dreamchum, like what bro raptor said lagi out of stock.  tapos sobrang mura package nila noon sa dyaryo ko pa nababasa hehehe

Wala na. Style nila yung wala nang stock. Promo price kasi yung nakapost sa ads na mura. May stock sila normally at regular price since limited counts lang ang naka promo (so ubos agad yun). :P Kumbaga promo fare sa eroplano, limited seats lang.

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on May 01, 2016 at 06:13 PM
ako sa laptop Villman talaga.  mas madali kausap sa warranty (im not sure ngayon 2 year old na yung latest laptop ko)

I normally go straight to the service center nung maker for warranty claims outside the outright replacement period. Tumatagal lang kasi madalas pag sa dealer, though okay nga ang aftersales ng Villman sa experience ko.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on May 02, 2016 at 12:21 AM
ako sa laptop Villman talaga.  mas madali kausap sa warranty (im not sure ngayon 2 year old na yung latest laptop ko)
agree.. ngayon mas mura na sa malls.. hehe siguro kasi they have "volume" compared sa gilmore shops lalo na pag sa laptops.. last laptop ko north edsa lang hehe... but tagal ko na walang laptop.. that was siguro 2012? hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on May 02, 2016 at 01:44 AM
agree.. ngayon mas mura na sa malls.. hehe siguro kasi they have "volume" compared sa gilmore shops lalo na pag sa laptops.. last laptop ko north edsa lang hehe... but tagal ko na walang laptop.. that was siguro 2012? hehe

Ako baligtad naman, mas madalas notebook than desktop gamit since the start of 2007. Pero recently bumabalik ako sa desktop sa house since malayo ang resposiveness compared sa personal convertible ko (core m kasi gamit nun).

Sa work I use desktops more than my work laptop since cramped ang desktop space ng laptop.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 02, 2016 at 06:18 AM
Guys, what player do you use for x265/HEVC 10-bit video files?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: knotfersail on May 04, 2016 at 04:12 PM
mpc-hc sir
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 12, 2016 at 11:19 AM
^Thanks bro.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on May 12, 2016 at 11:45 AM
Ako baligtad naman, mas madalas notebook than desktop gamit since the start of 2007. Pero recently bumabalik ako sa desktop sa house since malayo ang resposiveness compared sa personal convertible ko (core m kasi gamit nun).

Sa work I use desktops more than my work laptop since cramped ang desktop space ng laptop.
haha lagi parin ako tumitingin laptops.. since admitted geek..  mahigpit ngalang palagi hawak sa cash.. hehe
oonga mas practical nanga laptops ngayon... kapatid ko and dad ko laptop gamit nila sa work e.. ako lang pc and employees.. baka kasi di nila alagaan mabuti pag laptop.. hehe meron kami encoder... lakas pumindot.. babae.. madalas ako dumadaan sa station niya.. sira yung "enter" sa dulo sa right.. kaya naiintindihan niya naman siguro na pag pinapalitan ko keyboard niya luma ng ibang tao... hehe siguro 2 to 3 months tinatagal sakanya yung cheap keyboards.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DPT on May 15, 2016 at 09:09 PM
haha lagi parin ako tumitingin laptops.. since admitted geek..  mahigpit ngalang palagi hawak sa cash.. hehe
oonga mas practical nanga laptops ngayon... kapatid ko and dad ko laptop gamit nila sa work e.. ako lang pc and employees.. baka kasi di nila alagaan mabuti pag laptop.. hehe meron kami encoder... lakas pumindot.. babae.. madalas ako dumadaan sa station niya.. sira yung "enter" sa dulo sa right.. kaya naiintindihan niya naman siguro na pag pinapalitan ko keyboard niya luma ng ibang tao... hehe siguro 2 to 3 months tinatagal sakanya yung cheap keyboards.. hehe

Just curious.

I see Braswell laptops here that goes for less than 10k pesos brandnew. Celeron n3050 with intel hd 410 chip.    Able  to play hevc 265 and 4k support.

Would it make sense to just buy a braswell laptop as a HTPC and pocket the cost difference?



Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on May 16, 2016 at 03:20 AM
Just curious.

I see Braswell laptops here that goes for less than 10k pesos brandnew. Celeron n3050 with intel hd 410 chip.    Able  to play hevc 265 and 4k support.

Would it make sense to just buy a braswell laptop as a HTPC and pocket the cost difference?

It can work as long as you stick with supported file formats (upto 4k 30Hz 8bpc) and go with applications that support the onboard acceleration.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on May 16, 2016 at 07:59 AM
My new build M-ITX HTPC
idle power consumption under windows 9.5 to 12 watts
gaming GW2 40 to 50 watts

(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac109/yygoob/997e2f86-e2d5-4200-9069-2c3c77aaa82a.jpg) (http://s890.photobucket.com/user/yygoob/media/997e2f86-e2d5-4200-9069-2c3c77aaa82a.jpg.html)
Habey EMC-800SL casing c/o si AC..thank for the casing sir
(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac109/yygoob/3770f137-7185-476c-80ee-14c6201c16e6.jpg) (http://s890.photobucket.com/user/yygoob/media/3770f137-7185-476c-80ee-14c6201c16e6.jpg.html)
PC build parts/components
(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac109/yygoob/ec4a8c22-efdf-4d1b-8a73-9d70aca7536f.jpg) (http://s890.photobucket.com/user/yygoob/media/ec4a8c22-efdf-4d1b-8a73-9d70aca7536f.jpg.html)
size comparison EMC-800SL vs popcorn hour
(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac109/yygoob/37210092-e676-4b06-9237-d186a8c185db.jpg) (http://s890.photobucket.com/user/yygoob/media/37210092-e676-4b06-9237-d186a8c185db.jpg.html)
since the casing has no front or side usb port..have to mod...ugly workmanship but functioning naman..hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 16, 2016 at 08:29 AM
^Congrats on your new build.
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Post by: dm1179 on May 16, 2016 at 08:29 AM
This mini ITX casing looks nice. Aluminum body. Compact size. Mesh side panel. Space for 2 x 2.5" drives. Comes with 150W SFX 80PLUS Bronze PSU. 2 x USB3.0 ports.

https://www.in-win.com/en/gaming-chassis/Chopin (https://www.in-win.com/en/gaming-chassis/Chopin)

(https://www.in-win.com/uploads/Product/gaming-chassis/chopin/chopin_overview_customizable_01.png)

(https://www.in-win.com/uploads/Product/gaming-chassis/chopin/chopin_overview_small_02.png)

(https://www.in-win.com/uploads/Product/gaming-chassis/chopin/chopin_overview_space_01.png)

(https://www.in-win.com/uploads/Product/gaming-chassis/chopin/chopin_overview_space_02.png)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on May 16, 2016 at 09:44 AM
ganda nga nyan problema wala available locally
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on May 16, 2016 at 11:41 AM
congrats sa nice build sir yygoob... :D
pasensya na at di kumpleto nabigay. no idea po na may kulang na piyesa. hehe
nice mod sir.. yan din problema ko sa unit ko.. yung usb.. kayalang nanhinayang ako butasan. hehe

btw sir dm117 may nakita ako similar diyan.. ganda nga.. pero  matx and fullatx lang available...
15k yata yung matx version.. meron display sa sm north edsa.. yung side panel niya is 1/2" tempered glass
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on May 16, 2016 at 01:05 PM
no prob sir....at least mabilis naman remedyuhan...he he....til next time uli hehe
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Post by: dm1179 on May 16, 2016 at 03:18 PM
ganda nga nyan problema wala available locally

Luckily I have a supplier. Nakita ko na in person yang Chopin, both Silver and Black models. Baka order ako sa next project.
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Post by: yygoob on May 16, 2016 at 04:20 PM
magkano kaya sir?
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Post by: dm1179 on May 17, 2016 at 08:25 AM
^PM sent.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 17, 2016 at 08:27 AM
btw sir dm117 may nakita ako similar diyan.. ganda nga.. pero  matx and fullatx lang available...
15k yata yung matx version.. meron display sa sm north edsa.. yung side panel niya is 1/2" tempered glass

Wow, it must be good. Di pa ko nakagamit ng ganyan price na casing.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on May 17, 2016 at 02:53 PM
Wow, it must be good. Di pa ko nakagamit ng ganyan price na casing.
ako din.. hehe best case na nabili ko siguro yung coolermaster htpc fullatx na hinandcarry ko pa from china.. hehe
pero di mahal yun..

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2014/05/20/in-win-901-review/1
ito yung nakadisplay sa north edsa.. di ko pa nakikita brand napawow ako... namiss ko mag assemble ng pc
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Post by: wengkapre on May 18, 2016 at 09:15 AM
Bro AC, may marerecommend ka bang <1k na htpc micro-atx case? as in cheap lang  :)
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Post by: dm1179 on May 18, 2016 at 09:41 AM
ako din.. hehe best case na nabili ko siguro yung coolermaster htpc fullatx na hinandcarry ko pa from china.. hehe
pero di mahal yun..

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2014/05/20/in-win-901-review/1
ito yung nakadisplay sa north edsa.. di ko pa nakikita brand napawow ako... namiss ko mag assemble ng pc

Nice nga. Red dot design award 2014 winner pala yang In Win 901. Overkill nga lang for HTPC case. Mas sulit sya for gaming case since dito sya designed for.

http://www.inwin-style.com/en/gaming-chassis/list/18 (http://www.inwin-style.com/en/gaming-chassis/list/18)
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Post by: AC on May 18, 2016 at 09:43 PM
Bro AC, may marerecommend ka bang <1k na htpc micro-atx case? as in cheap lang  :)
strictly htpc form factor medyo pricey po talaga..

(para sa bahay htpc)was looking for that a few times... budget case na matx... 4k budget ko noon.. wala ako makuha kaya i ended up with a used lianli matx tower.. for 1.5k malinis naman and all aluminum kaya pwede nadin..

i try to find the best for myself.. i dont know if its really best for the money.. pero ito binili ko for office.. since budgetted...
http://www.deepcool.com/product/case/2014-09/9_989.shtml
if ok sayo mag tower.. manipis po kaha niya pero maganda mga port location and may foam and fan sa harap kaya nafifilter dumi.. di masyado pumapasok sa loob... since yung ganyan ko sa office 24 hours nakabukas kaya.. medyo importante sakin yung filter ng dumi..
bumawi nalang ako sa psu.. i got a seasonic gold.

Nice nga. Red dot design award 2014 winner pala yang In Win 901. Overkill nga lang for HTPC case. Mas sulit sya for gaming case since dito sya designed for.

http://www.inwin-style.com/en/gaming-chassis/list/18 (http://www.inwin-style.com/en/gaming-chassis/list/18)
hehe hindi ko alam yung red dot.. amazed lang ako sa porma niya.. nung nakita ko yan.. naisip ko.. why di ganito lahat na pc case... hangang nakita ko yung price... nalaman ko bakit.. hehe
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: joogeman on Jun 05, 2016 at 02:37 AM
Hi sorry for the noob question.. But whats the advantage of an htpc over an nmt that can play movies on a hard srive and stream movies over the net...

I feel like this is a dumb question to some but o really want to know... =(

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Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DPT on Jun 05, 2016 at 05:11 AM
Hi sorry for the noob question.. But whats the advantage of an htpc over an nmt that can play movies on a hard srive and stream movies over the net...

I feel like this is a dumb question to some but o really want to know... =(

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Before:

1. Picture quality
2. Codecs

I do not know nowadays if it still holds.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: yygoob on Jun 05, 2016 at 08:25 AM
flexibilty
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: crazyhog on Jun 05, 2016 at 09:14 AM
juz curious, anong player gamit nyo and why?  Splash Pro , MPC , KODI etc...


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Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 05, 2016 at 09:40 AM
juz curious, anong player gamit nyo and why?  Splash Pro , MPC , KODI etc...


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PowerDVD 16 in my case. I like the full feature set (dual interface and video/audio processing) and PowerDVD Remote.

Splash Pro is great for motion interpolation, and may work for those wanting a compact piece of software.

Kodi is highly expandable and has a media center like interface, but lacks out of the box post processing ability. This works well for less powerful builds.

I've never been a fan of MPC's interface, though it can do the job. I actually prefer Microsoft Movies & TV over it. The latter may not be as compatible, but it shines in sheer efficiency.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 15, 2016 at 10:05 AM
Might be the HTPC GPU of choice soon:
(http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/06/AMD-Radeon-RX-460.jpg)
Low TDP and expected full feature set. Passive-cooled versions are expected to come out.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on Jun 15, 2016 at 10:40 AM
^What GPU yan bro?

So far, I am content with Intel GPU so don't find a need for video card yet.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jun 15, 2016 at 10:45 AM
Might be the HTPC GPU of choice soon:
(http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/06/AMD-Radeon-RX-460.jpg)
Low TDP and expected full feature set. Passive-cooled versions are expected to come out.


is this the RX 460?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 15, 2016 at 11:04 AM
is this the RX 460?
Yup. Lower power consumption than the GTX 950, and expected HDR support.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Blackstar on Jun 15, 2016 at 12:40 PM
musta naman kaya projected pricing?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Jun 15, 2016 at 07:08 PM
Yup. Lower power consumption than the GTX 950, and expected HDR support.

nice! I was actually eyeing the 960 for an HTPC build.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: prototypeone on Jun 15, 2016 at 07:34 PM
For Kodi Users, baka alam niyo if paano gawin na external player si VLC once I select a movie sa Kodi. Nagawa ko na siya dati nalimot ko lang.  >:D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: eyeyousee™ on Jun 15, 2016 at 08:10 PM
https://www.freesoftwareservers.com/index.php/2015/08/24/kodi-make-kodi-use-external-player-mpc-or-vlc-x64/
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Jun 16, 2016 at 04:06 AM
nice! I was actually eyeing the 960 for an HTPC build.

Yup. HDR requires HDMI 2.0a, which Maxwell does not have. Right now Pascal and Polaris are the options with this support.

For power efficiency, the GTX 950 has a 90W reference TDP (which currently translates to 75W to 125W boards, depending on how the power limit is set). Based on the reference cooler on the RX 460, it seems like the TDP would be below 50W.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Sep 02, 2016 at 02:06 PM
RX 460 Passive
http://videocardz.com/63418/xfx-announces-fanless-radeon-rx-460 (http://videocardz.com/63418/xfx-announces-fanless-radeon-rx-460)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: DTNS on Sep 02, 2016 at 07:24 PM
RX 460 Passive
http://videocardz.com/63418/xfx-announces-fanless-radeon-rx-460 (http://videocardz.com/63418/xfx-announces-fanless-radeon-rx-460)


nice!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: suavegabe on Sep 19, 2016 at 11:07 AM
finally got to build a PC again after a very long time. plan is to use this as a HTPC/gaming rig:

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8186/29040392244_ff350309b9_z.jpg)

bought windows 10 home for the OS and PowerDVD Ultra for the HTPC software. There was a cyberlink sale so I bit the bullet and bought PowerDVD 16 Ultra for $ 62.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 04, 2016 at 08:06 PM
Got some good advice from Stagea for the build. Salamat, Sir!

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161104/1397a40881c436c2acae729d410e950e.jpg)

My first gaming rig in over a decade (aka my Civilizations VI box) will also serve as my htpc box. :)

This will also double as my wife's The Sims 4 time-waster as well. ;D

Specs:
• Thermaltake mATX case,
• LGA 1151 (H110 chipset) mobo,
• Intel Core i5-6500 (Skylake),
• Nvidia GTX 1060 8GB,
• 16GB DDR4 RAM,
• 240GB SSD,
• 520w 80Plus psu,
• 25" ultrawide 2k monitor,
• CM Storm Devastator II peripherals
• Total hardware cost is about ₱49,800 (my budget for the build was 50k for the hardware).

It's not a high-end build but should still be loads of fun!

Upgrades in the coming months will probably be 16GB more RAM, liquid cooling, and a good headset.

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Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: XanderCage on Nov 11, 2016 at 10:46 PM
nice specs! wish i could also upgrade my q6600 build. im still stuck in the DDR2 era. lol
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: shoktongxxx on Nov 11, 2016 at 10:55 PM
Got some good advice from Stagea for the build. Salamat, Sir!

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161104/1397a40881c436c2acae729d410e950e.jpg)

My first gaming rig in over a decade (aka my Civilizations VI box) will also serve as my htpc box. :)

This will also double as my wife's The Sims 4 time-waster as well. ;D

Specs:
• Thermaltake mATX case,
• LGA 1151 (H110 chipset) mobo,
• Intel Core i5-6500 (Skylake),
• Nvidia GTX 1060 8GB,
• 16GB DDR4 RAM,
• 240GB SSD,
• 520w 80Plus psu,
• 25" ultrawide 2k monitor,
• CM Storm Devastator II peripherals
• Total hardware cost is about ₱49,800 (my budget for the build was 50k for the hardware).

It's not a high-end build but should still be loads of fun!

Upgrades in the coming months will probably be 16GB more RAM, liquid cooling, and a good headset.

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uy..danda chief! congrats. ;)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 12, 2016 at 06:48 AM
Salamat po, Sirs!

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Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: Stagea on Nov 12, 2016 at 07:35 AM
Got some good advice from Stagea for the build. Salamat, Sir!

My first gaming rig in over a decade (aka my Civilizations VI box) will also serve as my htpc box. :)

This will also double as my wife's The Sims 4 time-waster as well. ;D

Specs:
• Thermaltake mATX case,
• LGA 1151 (H110 chipset) mobo,
• Intel Core i5-6500 (Skylake),
• Nvidia GTX 1060 8GB,
• 16GB DDR4 RAM,
• 240GB SSD,
• 520w 80Plus psu,
• 25" ultrawide 2k monitor,
• CM Storm Devastator II peripherals
• Total hardware cost is about ₱49,800 (my budget for the build was 50k for the hardware).

It's not a high-end build but should still be loads of fun!

Upgrades in the coming months will probably be 16GB more RAM, liquid cooling, and a good headset.

You're welcome sir. Congrats on the nice build!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on Nov 12, 2016 at 12:31 PM
nice build sir :D
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: suavegabe on Nov 14, 2016 at 12:17 PM
so my supposed to be HTPC became a gaming rig instead and switched to a jonsbo VR1 casing. I now have a fractal node 304 lying around and thinking of building a dedicated HTPC with it. Need suggestions on cheapest possible build (~Php 10k) with only main requirement is that it should be able to play 3D BD movies using powerdvd and of course output HD audio to my receiver using the onboard GPU.  oh, and mobo should be ITX form factor.

currently thinking of getting the following:
CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3 ghz 2-core
mobo: MSI H110i Pro
ram: 8 GB ddr4
psu: seasonic ECO 400BT

total price is around Php 11k. I already have the other components.

any comments/suggestions specially to make it cheaper? I'm also open to AMD-based systems though I'm not really familiar with them.

TIA!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: XanderCage on Nov 30, 2016 at 11:10 PM
anyone using madvr video renderer in their htpc? insane image quality!
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Mar 08, 2017 at 02:29 PM
anyone using madvr video renderer in their htpc? insane image quality!

up ko po ito.

Ako din po mga sir. need ko po ng help para sa murang htpc build for watching full hd movies (1080) and internet... i have 3 Hard Disk(s) tag 2tera. yun lang po. Low power po sana na build. God bless po sa lahat
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: scifi-fan on Mar 09, 2017 at 10:47 AM
Go to the NMT section of PinoyDVD and read up all the various new Android TV boxes.

I've been able to replace all of the HTPC setups at home w/ these units... small, low power yet capable even of 4K.
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: HTPC on Mar 09, 2017 at 04:42 PM
Go to the NMT section of PinoyDVD and read up all the various new Android TV boxes.

I've been able to replace all of the HTPC setups at home w/ these units... small, low power yet capable even of 4K.


thank you po sir. search ko
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jambam on May 06, 2017 at 11:59 AM
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j385/jambam_03/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0387_zpsvew3oes0.jpg)


(http://www.jonsbo.com/en/images/g154/1.jpg)



Even though there I have a number of media players.  Still love building these ..  The case is also very nice  4mm aluminum and tempered glass side..

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Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: RXV on May 06, 2017 at 01:37 PM
Nice aluminum case! What brand/model is it? And how much?
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: jambam on May 06, 2017 at 03:18 PM
Nice aluminum case! What brand/model is it? And how much?
Jonsbo U1 plus   

http://www.jonsbo.com/en/products_43_1.html

Usd 110

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Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 28, 2017 at 06:33 PM
Unboxing my new low profile cooler: Silverstone Argon Series AR06. :)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Computer/Silverstone/AR06%20Argon%201_zpseadsje44.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Computer/Silverstone/AR06%20Argon%202_zpsyflvklte.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Computer/Silverstone/AR06%20Argon%203_zpstyqgsbie.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Computer/Silverstone/AR06%20Argon%204_zpslx9gvqps.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 28, 2017 at 06:34 PM
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Computer/Silverstone/AR06%20Argon%205_zps31z2cro3.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Computer/Silverstone/AR06%20Argon%206_zpsifuyx6hd.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Computer/Silverstone/AR06%20Argon%207_zpshsj8ayes.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Computer/Silverstone/AR06%20Argon%208_zpsfac3tivs.jpg)
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: dm1179 on May 28, 2017 at 06:36 PM
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Computer/Silverstone/AR06%20Argon%209_zpsvpxxlvzl.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Computer/Silverstone/AR06%20Argon%2010_zpszcmeeu7i.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Computer/Silverstone/AR06%20Argon%2011_zpsfbic65pf.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/temp_album_photo_5/Computer/Silverstone/AR06%20Argon%2012_zpsipjcnxuh.jpg)

Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: AC on May 29, 2017 at 01:14 PM
ganda niyan boss.. :D
namiss ko overclocking and moding
Title: Re: Share your HTPC set-up Part2
Post by: nerveblocker on May 29, 2017 at 09:05 PM
Just need advise which would run kodi (openelec) better....

RPI3 or Intel NUC Celeron?