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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #630 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 04:56 AM »
out of the question din ba ang power consumption between the two?
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #631 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 06:29 AM »
Wait Im confused,di ba mas mahal ang plasma technology kaysa LCD?
afaik, larger displays mas mahal ang lcdtv ..
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #632 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 08:00 AM »
Wait Im confused,di ba mas mahal ang plasma technology kaysa LCD?

compare mo lang price ng 42 incher for both, the pv8 you can get at 55-57k i dont think you can get any lcd at that price at that size. kaya in the end plasma is cheaper.  :)

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #633 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 08:04 AM »
and i think why people buy lcds even here is because a lot are plunging into this hobby of ours buying the 32incher, and at that size, i think only the lg plasma is comparable in size and price, so if you have a budget of 30-35k ready to buy one 32", 55k for a panny pv8 is still steep even though you know it looks better, but they buy the lcd anyway because a lot are itching to get their toys right away.  :)

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #634 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 08:13 AM »

And what most of LCD users think, is that Plasma is cheaper, just like the rear projection TV, because it is outgoing technology.


Fortunately we have this thread to show that it is not true.  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #635 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 08:21 AM »
Fortunately we have this thread to show that it is not true.  ;D ;D ;D

hehehe lucky US!   ::) ::)
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #636 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 08:51 AM »
I clearly saw burn-in on a plasma TV first hand (Hitachi) despite the claims that it had anti-burn-in features.
i dont have this issue on my plasma panel.  i'm enjoying my panel just like as using an ordinary tv w/o any worries. ;) todays generation of plasma have already addressed that issue. i can speak for pioneer because its what i have. :)

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #637 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 09:06 AM »
wala na po ba yun burn in issue with PV7 and PV70?
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #638 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 09:07 AM »
i dont have this issue on my plasma panel.  i'm enjoying my panel just like as using an ordinary tv w/o any worries. ;) todays generation of plasma have already addressed that issue. i can speak for pioneer because its what i have. :)
true..no one can tell what will satisfiy you..only you :)

I also dont have issue with burn-in.   I have a Hitachi Plasma 42PD9500.   It does have image retention, just like the manual has warned, but no permanent burn-in.   The retained image gets washed out seconds after.   Ive been playing PS3 games with this Plasma for more than a year, and been enjoying it with no worries.  

To each his own lang talaga.   I believe that Plasma has the better PQ, deeper blacks, and the better colors.    And I am still grateful that I didnt choose the other technology.   Buti na lang I requested an A/B comparison test before I was to buy.  Went to Manila thinking I was getting a LCD.    Went home to the Pampanga bringing a PLasma.  

Laking sisi sana ako.  ;)

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #639 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 09:58 AM »
i just want to share...

i disagree with some posts regarding plasma reliability.  in our workplace, we have 3 hitachi plasmas (2x commercial 50" and 1x non-commercial 55") as our second monitor to display our network maps running 24x7 365days and it's been 4 years now and it's still working.

image retention/burn?  a couple of times we move the network map if needed but most of the time the map stays there but still i can't see any burn-in on the non commercial one - pretty amazing.  the commercial ones (maybe 2nd generation plasmas) have some burn-ins but what do you expect from the way we use it?  LCD do suffer burn-in also, DELL has replaced some of my monitors due to burn-in because of the static display i'm using for monitoring networks.

i myself is a plasma owner 2 years now (NEC PX-50XR5W) and is still completely blown away over the PQ (movies, xbox360/HD-DVD and normal HDTV watching). i could get a bit better PQ if i had it ISF C3 calibrated but it's expensive so i just did my own calibration using DVE & THX optimiser and it's all very good to me and those who view my panel.  image retention is not a big deal as it goes away after watching TV, no burn-ins.

LCDs are good specially when you watch the display models showing cartoons/movies but i always tell my friends when buying to get the salesman put in normal free-to-air HDTV channels because most of the time they are not watching movies and then i'll let them decide for themselves based on what they see.  let their own eyes be the judge as we do see things and think differently.  one experts' opinion may be good but to another may be not good.

mahal/mura?  you get what you paid for in my opinion. it's just like buying a car - buy a kia, don't expect a benz performance.

viewing angle? not a big deal to me.  i mean how many times in your sane mind would you watch your flat display from the sides? definitely not my preference.

at the end of the day, it's your hard earned money, you'll be watching it and not the experts here, there and everywhere- pls try not to please them.  what matters is will you and your family be pleased watching your display.  as long as you can afford it, enjoy it then go for it.

just my 1cent.

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #640 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 10:00 AM »
The burn-in issue is actually a thing of the past.. Just like any other electronic gears, you have to be careful with how you handle your Plasma TV.. Pag nagka burn-in ka, then may tawag na dyan..  ;D ;D ;D

These are the factors why I would choose Plasma TV:
1. Almost perfect PQ
2. Almost perfect black
3. Long half-life (for the recent models of Plasma, ~ 35 years with a conservative 12 hours daily viewing)
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #641 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 02:13 PM »
ako have a Hitachi 42PD8000 and after a year of use wala pa din burn-in  ;) likewise if i want to change my viewing position i don't need to go near it to tilt the TV to my direction, I just use the remote  ;) was originally planning to get a 40" LCD but something went wrong dun sa transaction, buti na lang  ;D
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #642 on: Aug 06, 2008 at 03:48 PM »
Buti na lang I requested an A/B comparison test before I was to buy...  

Laking sisi sana ako.  ;)

i did that too as well. buti na lng :D mahirap manghinayang :)


These are the factors why I would choose Plasma TV:
1. Almost perfect PQ
2. Almost perfect black
3. Long half-life (for the recent models of Plasma, ~ 35 years with a conservative 12 hours daily viewing)

perfectly said sir. these are the factors why i chose Plasma. iba-iba ang grade ng blacks..kurong-kuro ;D

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #643 on: Aug 07, 2008 at 06:11 AM »
ive seen some guys here using pana projector ..
can those HD projectors really yield those results? if yes, then WOW!


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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #644 on: Aug 07, 2008 at 11:06 AM »
I have both LCD (Phillips 32")and Plasma (Panny 42"pv8) displays and all I can say is Plasma is better in terms of PQ and not resolution. Ang resolution depende of course sa model.

I have played ps3 games, dvds and blu-ray movies on both and I say PQ of Plasma is superior.

Sa LCD masakit sa mata because colors are very rich in fact masyadong glare and you need to be in the correct angle to enjoy the picture. Sa gilid dumidilim na. And the blacks are not entirely black at all. My Phillips LCD by the way has a 10,000:1 contrast ratio.

Plasma on the other hand has very natural colors and very warm to the eyes. Maganda ang contrast ratio. They have the deepest blacks I've ever seen in a flat panel. The white naman tama lang. Iba ang white sa maliwanag.

Samsung promodizers always point out that their Samsung LCDs have the whitest whites sa market. Upon checking naka MAX ung brightness. Besides masakit sobra na sa mata. But I will still buy Samsung LCD pang gaming kasi murang mura nga.

Burn-in is a thing of the past sa new plasmas by the way.

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #645 on: Aug 08, 2008 at 10:51 AM »
Daming plasma lovers talaga! :D

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #646 on: Aug 08, 2008 at 11:16 AM »
Daming plasma lovers talaga! :D
kasama ka dun eh .. :D
btw bro .. question

ganito ba talaga kalinaw ang mga PJ ngayon ?

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #647 on: Aug 08, 2008 at 11:21 AM »
Pana ae2000 ganun ka linaw. :)

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #648 on: Aug 08, 2008 at 12:37 PM »
Compare din natin sa PJ. 
Plasma vs. LCD vs. Projector  ;D

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #649 on: Aug 08, 2008 at 07:32 PM »
Compare din natin sa PJ. 
Plasma vs. LCD vs. Projector  ;D

Picture Tube din ... :D

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #650 on: Aug 08, 2008 at 08:57 PM »
Picture Tube din ... :D

joking aside, this should actually be most of the point of comparison, and i've been meaning to say this ... most of the buyers of flat panel tv's nowadays are on the first dip to these technologies, and are replacing their old crt tv's (or picture tube-based tv's) ... a year or two back, prices of flat panel are way out of reach - it is only now that the price are on the same level when the first 29-inch flat panel crt's were introduced ten years back ... i remember buying my 29-inch JVC Flat Interiart tv at around PhP 44k (BPI sale at 0% interest)

before you buy, yes you compare which technology best suits your needs (LCD or Plasma) ... after you buy, the point of comparison at home is usually your old crt tv and the new tv that you bought ... pag no improvement, talo ...hehe

my initial spending on the flat panels was a 22-inch samsung lcd ... comparing it to my crt tv ... there was not much of an improvement, specially with tv viewing, medyo talo pa nga lcd dahil limited viewing angle (pero satisfied pa rin naman ako with the improvement on other areas, specially gaming and viewing photos) ... when i bought my panasonic 42pv8 however, there was really great improvement - cable tv, dvd, and HD viewing ... hence i'm now a fan of plasma technology ... with regards to my lcd, useful pa rin for gaming - i don't think it is recommended to use one tv for both gaming and general use, mas madali mag-wear out kahit ano pa technology gamitin.

this is just my take  ;D
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #651 on: Aug 08, 2008 at 09:24 PM »
No contest... winner is Projector.... SIZE MATTERS  ;D

Compare din natin sa PJ. 
Plasma vs. LCD vs. Projector  ;D

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #652 on: Aug 08, 2008 at 09:29 PM »
No contest... winner is Projector.... SIZE MATTERS  ;D


i agree, specially if its a 1080p pj.

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #653 on: Aug 08, 2008 at 09:40 PM »
I still haven't seen a PJ up close,...
is it really that impressive guys...?

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #654 on: Aug 08, 2008 at 11:06 PM »
I still haven't seen a PJ up close,...
is it really that impressive guys...?

i went to sir streetsmart's ht for the dvd upscaler shootout, and i have to say, ganda talaga ang pj, not only because the pq was excellent, but the size itself just made it the more impressive, very immersive, theater like talaga. that's why i am content with my 37" lcd now and am not drooling over the new plasmas of panasonic (kahit maganda sya), am hell bent on upgrading to a pj, kahit 720p lang muna (actually halos same price as the pv8 yung ax200 ng panasonic, cheaper pa nung naka sale sya). can't wait till xmas!

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #655 on: Aug 11, 2008 at 09:16 AM »
did I just experience image burn?  I forgot to turn off my plasma last night while watching HBO and I fell asleep.  When I woke up, that's about 3 hours and swicthed to a blank screen, I noticed that the logo of HBO was there.  How can I get rid of it, I'm afraid that it's already stucked there.

Im using Panasonic Pv8 by the way.

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #656 on: Aug 11, 2008 at 10:50 AM »
did I just experience image burn?  I forgot to turn off my plasma last night while watching HBO and I fell asleep.  When I woke up, that's about 3 hours and swicthed to a blank screen, I noticed that the logo of HBO was there.  How can I get rid of it, I'm afraid that it's already stucked there.
Im using Panasonic Pv8 by the way.
does it have a white wash option or image inverter, you might wanna try that for a minute .. then checkout the display afterwards
but i doubt that its a BI, baka IR pa .. :)
No contest... winner is Projector.... SIZE MATTERS  ;D
i agree, specially if its a 1080p pj.
bring on the big guns!!
saw the PJ (benq brand) at trinoma yesterday .. all i can say is .. WOW!!!
never thought it was possible until yesterday .. ;D
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #657 on: Aug 11, 2008 at 10:53 AM »
When you watch on a 120-inch screen... YES!!!!  ;D

Imagine, a 60" TV is just 1/4 of the screen area of a 120-inch.

I still haven't seen a PJ up close,...
is it really that impressive guys...?

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #658 on: Aug 11, 2008 at 10:57 AM »
When you watch on a 120-inch screen... YES!!!!  ;D

Imagine, a 60" TV is just 1/4 of the screen area of a 120-inch.


we tested the benq yesterday, buti nalang may isang customer si jeff (inactive pdvd member) na gusto ng demo ..
both of us were impressed .. ill never doubt PJ again ..  ;D

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #659 on: Aug 11, 2008 at 10:57 AM »
Just when I thought burn-ins were a thing of the past for Plasma?   ???

Try this:
http://www.wikihow.com/Use-JScreenFix-to-Remove-Plasma-Screen-Burn-in


did I just experience image burn?  I forgot to turn off my plasma last night while watching HBO and I fell asleep.  When I woke up, that's about 3 hours and swicthed to a blank screen, I noticed that the logo of HBO was there.  How can I get rid of it, I'm afraid that it's already stucked there.

Im using Panasonic Pv8 by the way.