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Title: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 14, 2013 at 10:20 PM
Hi all,
I thought I would start this thread early so I could show the build from bare land to the finished theater. My house build is 27 days old & scheduled for around 5 months, I shall post piccies when I figure out how to do that. All my gear is in the UK waiting to be shipped as soon as my residents visa is approved. That's the introduction out of the way now down to the interesting stuff.
The HT room will be 7.5 x 5.5 M & 2.9 M high, the length should have been 8.5 M but due to a slight misunderstanding with the architect had to compromise. I shall be building a room within a room so the final internal dimensions will be 7.12 x 5.12 M & 2.73 high. Still in the design stage but there will be 2 rows of 3 seats the 2nd row on a raised plinth & a stage. I have bought the seats, saw them in Mandaue Foam, they wouldn't hold them so it was an early purchase. The screen mount is causing a headache at the moment, trying to design a mount, the screen weighs 120 KG.
My gear :-
HT :-
Screen - 120" Elite EZframe 
Projector - Epson EH-TW8300
AV Pre amp/tuner - Marantz AV7703
Amps - Emotiva XPA 5 & XPA 6 Gen 3
Blu Ray Player - Oppo BDP 103
Android TV box - HiMedia Q10 Pro with 6TB hard drive,
Subwoofer Equalizer - Anti Mode 8033C
Speakers - KEF   Q7  main fronts
                          IQ30  Rear surrounds, high fronts & rears
                          IQ8ds  surrounds
                          IQ60C  center
Subwoofer - BK Monolith
Line Conditioner x 2 - Richard Gray 400 Pro
AVR - 10KVA Stavol ST-10000VA-ST
Stereo :-
Pre Amp - Emotiva XSP-1
Main Amp - Emotiva XPA-DR2
CD/Network player - Marantz ND8006
Turntable - Technics SL-QL1 & Technics SL-1200 mk6 (highly modified)
Phono Pre Amp - Cambridge Audio 540P
Speakers - Mordaunt Short Performance 6
Subwoofer - Golden Ear ForceField 4
Headphones - AKG K601
Power Filter - Crosbon CR-365
Line Conditioner - Richard Gray 400 Pro
Power from the same AVR as the HT
Networking :-
Asustor AS-604T NAS with 12 TB set up in Raid 5
ASUS AC1750 802.11ac wireless router
Netgear Prosafe gigabit firewall FVS 336G
Netgear Prosafe 8 port gigabit switch GS108
Netgear 5 port HT & gaming switch G5605AV

 
 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 14, 2013 at 10:26 PM
Welcome to PinoyDVD Gallery and Advance Congratulations on your HT build!!!
Those are great gears!

By the way, is a projector an option in your HT set up? :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Oct 14, 2013 at 10:30 PM
welcome to pinoydvd sir! I look forward to seeing pics of your setup. :)


@louie

I don't think he needs a projector. he has an 85 inch plasma.  :o
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Oct 14, 2013 at 10:31 PM
Welcome brader sa Pinoy DVD...KEF Lover!

Please post some pix later... :D ;) :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Oct 14, 2013 at 10:34 PM
Pioneer PDP-LX5090 - 50 inch plasma?

I'm referring to the Panasonic TH-85VX200W in the HT setup. ;)  pang stereo lang yung Kuro ni sir. hehe! ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 14, 2013 at 10:39 PM
@louie

I don't think he needs a projector. he has an 85 inch plasma.  :o

Yeah I know... But just would like to suggest a bigger display since sir oldboyracer's room size is quite big, a bigger display probably 120" to 140" would definitely make a difference :)
Title: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: mykel18 on Oct 14, 2013 at 10:42 PM
Nice gears you have sir! Can't wait for the build so you can post pictures of your system.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 07:29 AM
Welcome to PinoyDVD Gallery and Advance Congratulations on your HT build!!!
Those are great gears!

By the way, is a projector an option in your HT set up? :)
Thanks Louie, unfortunately not thinking about a projector just yet. I like the idea of the larger screen but I think I will wait till the PQ improves. The 4K PJ's sound good but I have not had the chance to see one yet. The HT build will allow such an upgrade in the future
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 07:34 AM
welcome to pinoydvd sir! I look forward to seeing pics of your setup. :)


@louie

I don't think he needs a projector. he has an 85 inch plasma.  :o
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Welcome to PinoyDVD Gallery and Advance Congratulations on your HT build!!!
Those are great gears!

By the way, is a projector an option in your HT set up? :)
Thanks DTNS. BTW the PDP-LX5090 should keep the wife happy while I play with my toys hehe!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 15, 2013 at 07:35 AM
Sir Oldboyracer,
Have you seen in action any Panasonic, Epson, JVC or Sony Projectors?
Even at just 1080p Full HD, the PQ is very very good paired with a proper PJ screen and well controlled room lighting :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 07:50 AM
Welcome brader sa Pinoy DVD...KEF Lover!

Please post some pix later... :D ;) :D
Thanks JH, yes a fellow KEF lover, my ears really appreciate their unique sound. BTW I auditioned a pair of 205/2's for 2 weeks in my living room back in the UK, absolutely awesome, the 203/s's were not bad either. I found a slight lack of bass for my liking but that could have been alleviated by a sub. Listening to Mark Knofflers fingers sliding up & down the strings of his guitar was amazing. In the end I settled for the performance 6's due to the amount of time I had to get my gear to the shippers. Maybe a future upgrade would be 207's for the stereo & get the rest of the Performance series for the HT - Xmas present hehe !
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 07:58 AM
Nice gears you have sir! Can't wait for the build so you can post pictures of your system.
Thanks Mykel, I also can't wait for the build, I've been without my HT & Stereo for 7 months now.
The only pictures you'll get for the next few months will be the HT room gradually being built. I will will try & lay the thread out as a sort off instruction manual for those who are interested in sound proofing & acoustic treatments.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 15, 2013 at 08:06 AM
Congratulations for starting a thread of your own. Looking forward to your own HT/audio build. This is going to be exciting! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif)

There are no accidents. You have come to the right place!!! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)(http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)(http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Oct 15, 2013 at 08:41 AM
Welcome aboard sir and enjoy our community.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 08:48 AM
Sir Oldboyracer,
Have you seen in action any Panasonic, Epson, JVC or Sony Projectors?
Even at just 1080p Full HD, the PQ is very very good paired with a proper PJ screen and well controlled room lighting :)
Hi Louie, I've been spending too much time flying backwards & forwards to Cebu over the last 18 months (including getting married in May) to look at PJ's. Since deciding to relocate to Cebu last Xmas I made some upgrades & having seen the 85" Panny fell in love with it (don't tell the wife hehe !)especially when they agreed a P900K discount. Everything was a bit of a rush & I think I'll be happy with what I have for a little while.
The HT build will allow me add a PJ at a later date. The Panny will be mounted 1M from the front wall so if a large screen is installed I will have extra distance to the seating to play with for adjustment.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 08:49 AM
Welcome aboard sir and enjoy our community.
Thanks Ricky
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 08:52 AM
Congratulations for starting a thread of your own. Looking forward to your own HT/audio build. This is going to be exciting! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif)

There are no accidents. You have come to the right place!!! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)(http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)(http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)
Thanks Doc, yes I'm looking forward getting down to work. We've just had a 7.2 magnitude earthquake so I'll be off to the building site soon to see if there is any damage.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 15, 2013 at 08:56 AM
Thanks Doc, yes I'm looking forward getting down to work. We've just had a 7.2 magnitude earthquake so I'll be off to the building site soon to see if there is any damage.

Whoa!  Must have been Thor's Hammer! Kidding aside hope everything is fine.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:03 AM
Whoa!  Must have been Thor's Hammer! Kidding aside hope everything is fine.
Hehehe ! You took the words out of my mouth. Listening to the radio there are collapsed buildings around 10 KM's from us & a Tsunami alert. Thanks for your concern. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:49 AM
Hi Louie, I've been spending too much time flying backwards & forwards to Cebu over the last 18 months (including getting married in May) to look at PJ's. Since deciding to relocate to Cebu last Xmas I made some upgrades & having seen the 85" Panny fell in love with it (don't tell the wife hehe !)especially when they agreed a P900K discount. Everything was a bit of a rush & I think I'll be happy with what I have for a little while.
The HT build will allow me add a PJ at a later date. The Panny will be mounted 1M from the front wall so if a large screen is installed I will have extra distance to the seating to play with for adjustment.


just curious, how is your electricity bill? I checked the specs of the 85" Panasonic and noticed that its power consumption is high.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM
just curious, how is your electricity bill? I checked the specs of the 85" Panasonic and noticed that its power consumption is high.
Hi DTNS, yes your right the screen draws 1200W but saying that the 3 amps are also rated at 1200W & Av Receiver 1160W. Compared with the UK the HT will increase by 780W, the Stereo by 1200W as it is unlikely that both systems will be running together. Although your electric supply here is expensive it's comparable to the UK which I am used to. When I get my first bill in around 6 months I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 15, 2013 at 10:46 AM
To post pic:

1. Create account in photobucket.com.
2. Create an album there if you wish to be organized.
3. Click Upload button somewhere on top of page.
4. Choose the Album name in the dropdown toggle of uploader.
5. Drag and drop the photos.
6. Best to upload 700px max width or height on the longest side. (A courtesy to mobile surfers)
7. Go to album and click on a photo you wish to post.
8. Upper right of photo thumbnail is a gear icon. Click that.
9. Choose share.
10. Choose forum link. Tap the suggested url and it should say "copied".
11. Right click that on your thread post.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 11:32 AM
To post pic:

1. Create account in photobucket.com.
2. Create an album there if you wish to be organized.
3. Click Upload button somewhere on top of page.
4. Choose the Album name in the dropdown toggle of uploader.
5. Drag and drop the photos.
6. Best to upload 700px max width or height on the longest side. (A courtesy to mobile surfers)
7. Go to album and click on a photo you wish to post.
8. Upper right of photo thumbnail is a gear icon. Click that.
9. Choose share.
10. Choose forum link. Tap the suggested url and it should say "copied".
11. Right click that on your thread post.
Thanks Gino I'll give it a try. This is the first time in my life I've had the time to get involved in a Forum so it's a big learning curve for me. Everyone will need to be patient with me until I've mastered the art.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Oct 15, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Thanks Ricky

120kg screen? Thats one big heavy screen! The heaviest i installed is around 40kgs and its really a pain in the back(literally) just in case you need help im a just a pm away

***I just realized the screen you are talking about is the 85" plasma  :( i thought its a projector screen. Sorry my bad.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Oct 15, 2013 at 02:15 PM
Thanks JH, yes a fellow KEF lover, my ears really appreciate their unique sound. BTW I auditioned a pair of 205/2's for 2 weeks in my living room back in the UK, absolutely awesome, the 203/s's were not bad either. I found a slight lack of bass for my liking but that could have been alleviated by a sub. Listening to Mark Knofflers fingers sliding up & down the strings of his guitar was amazing. In the end I settled for the performance 6's due to the amount of time I had to get my gear to the shippers. Maybe a future upgrade would be 207's for the stereo & get the rest of the Performance series for the HT - Xmas present hehe !
Which amp did you pair that you found slight lack of bass? You need lot of juice to make it sing... :'(
Title: Re: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 15, 2013 at 02:40 PM
Congrats oldboyracer! Your system is a blast just by reading your list of gears. I hope to audition it sometime.

just curious, how is your electricity bill? I checked the specs of the 85" Panasonic and noticed that its power consumption is high.

Actually that was also my initial thought. But considering the value of his gears, i don't think oldboyracer would concern himself with electricity bills compared to his pure enjoyment. I'd choose an 85" plasma anytime over any PJ projecting at 100". Iba pa din ang direct lighting ng monitor/tv vs reflected light ng Pj screen. But I guess that's just me. I've experienced an 85" projected screen dati and very considerable na ang size talaga. What more ang plasma.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 07:11 PM
120kg screen? Thats one big heavy screen! The heaviest i installed is around 40kgs and its really a pain in the back(literally) just in case you need help im a just a pm away

***I just realized the screen you are talking about is the 85" plasma  :( i thought its a projector screen. Sorry my bad.
Hi Ricky, thanks for the offer of help you're welcome anytime. Don't worry about your slight mistake, I'm finding it normal now I'm an old fart.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Oct 15, 2013 at 07:35 PM
Congrats oldboyracer! Your system is a blast just by reading your list of gears. I hope to audition it sometime.

Actually that was also my initial thought. But considering the value of his gears, i don't think oldboyracer would concern himself with electricity bills compared to his pure enjoyment. I'd choose an 85" plasma anytime over any PJ projecting at 100". Iba pa din ang direct lighting ng monitor/tv vs reflected light ng Pj screen. But I guess that's just me. I've experienced an 85" projected screen dati and very considerable na ang size talaga. What more ang plasma.

Size does matter. Installed both 90" and 80" led tv and yes
Its vivid but still less awesome compared to
120" sized screen imho lang naman. For oldboys room size a 120-140" screen is in order hahahah
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: xgh0st12x on Oct 15, 2013 at 07:55 PM
Lol! Looks like some folks are doing the voodoo that they do!
This is gonna be good!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Oct 15, 2013 at 08:32 PM
^hindi naman wink
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 08:49 PM
Which amp did you pair that you found slight lack of bass? You need lot of juice to make it sing... :'(
I was running the 205's though a Cambridge Audio 840W. To be honest I thought the bass a bit lightweight when I auditioned them at the supplier & they were using an Electrocompaniet Amp & CD transport. These are recommended by KEF as ideal companions for the reference series.
Title: Re: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 08:54 PM
Congrats oldboyracer! Your system is a blast just by reading your list of gears. I hope to audition it sometime.

Actually that was also my initial thought. But considering the value of his gears, i don't think oldboyracer would concern himself with electricity bills compared to his pure enjoyment. I'd choose an 85" plasma anytime over any PJ projecting at 100". Iba pa din ang direct lighting ng monitor/tv vs reflected light ng Pj screen. But I guess that's just me. I've experienced an 85" projected screen dati and very considerable na ang size talaga. What more ang plasma.
Thanks Nelson, you're welcome anytime. Your right, I don't have a problem with the cost of the power. My feelings are the same as yours, PJ's haven't quite caught up with the best Plasmas yet.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:01 PM
What's the specific model of your BK Monolith? You really love your gears that you are willing to have it shipped here rather than just selling your stuff in UK and buying a whole new setup here. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/39.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:07 PM
Size does matter. Installed both 90" and 80" led tv and yes
Its vivid but still less awesome compared to
120" sized screen imho lang naman. For oldboys room size a 120-140" screen is in order hahahah
Hi Ricky hear what you say & you're correct size does matter but at the moment I'm going more for PQ. IMHO LED screens cannot yet compare high end Plasmas. The TH-85VX200 is a commercial screen so doesn't have to comply with domestic regulations & Panasonic have done some weird & wonderful things with it. I will give an evaluation of the Panny once it is up & running, hopefully I won't be disappointed. If I am PJ it is.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:40 PM
Lol! Looks like some folks are doing the voodoo that they do!
This is gonna be good!
Thanks for the comment but I'm a bit long in the tooth when it come to Audio & Video, let's just say I can hold my own. We are in a world of free speech so everyone has a right to voice their opinion, whether or not one agrees with it is a matter of choice. I have my own ideas but as a retired electronics engineer I can use a lot of technical know how when making my decisions.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:42 PM
^hindi naman wink
Ricky I have no command of the language yet so I'm annoying the wife to translate.
Does your comment mean 'not really' ?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:46 PM
I was running the 205's though a Cambridge Audio 840W. To be honest I thought the bass a bit lightweight when I auditioned them at the supplier & they were using an Electrocompaniet Amp & CD transport. These are recommended by KEF as ideal companions for the reference series.
I am pairing it with a Bryston 4bsst2...so far so good..  ^-^ ^-^

Mukhang di ka na tatablan ng witch craft dito, sa dami ng bawang na nakain mo sa UK... ;D ;D ;D
But I cannot help it... >:D
bagay ba bagay ito brader sa new room mo...  ;D

Black Diamond Fixed
(http://www.screeninnovations.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Black-Diamond-Poster-Final.jpg)

JVC X55

(http://static.trustedreviews.com/94%7C00002496c%7C953b_orh616w616_JVC-X95-official.jpg)

Ganda no?  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 10:12 PM
What's the specific model of your BK Monolith? You really love your gears that you are willing to have it shipped here rather than just selling your stuff in UK and buying a whole new setup here. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/39.gif)
Hi Doc, Monolith is the model, the manufacturer is BK Electronics. They are a well established UK electronics company who made their name designing & manufacturing electronics for Cinemas. They also worked very closely with REL & manufactured some of their subs. They have also supplied other well named companies & decided make & market their own.The result is a range of affordable high quality units, the Monolith being the top of the range, Monolith by name & Monolith by size. BK have just upgraded it to Mononlith Plus increasing the amp from 300 to 500 watts & using a different driver. Adam Rayner from Home Cinema Choice in his review said he found it hard to distinguish the Monolith from his P172K REL. BTW the Monolith is P31.4K. Anyone who is on a budget & wants a high quality sub will not go far wrong in having a BK. They will ship to Phils & will E-mail you the costs. For those interested their address is www.bkelec.com. For DIYer's they also manufacture plate amps & supply drivers ready to drop into your own housing.
There was another reason for shipping my gear, the house. I don't think the wife would have liked me much if I told her I was spending the money for the house on my toys. You're right I love what I have at the moment & some of it I haven't switched on yet. Happiness to come hopefully.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM
I am pairing it with a Bryston 4bsst2...so far so good..  ^-^ ^-^

Mukhang di ka na tatablan ng witch craft dito, sa dami ng bawang na nakain mo sa UK... ;D ;D ;D
But I cannot help it... >:D
bagay ba bagay ito brader sa new room mo...  ;D

Black Diamond Fixed
(http://www.screeninnovations.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Black-Diamond-Poster-Final.jpg)

JVC X55

(http://static.trustedreviews.com/94%7C00002496c%7C953b_orh616w616_JVC-X95-official.jpg)

Ganda no?  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Bryston's are great amps but I have to admit I have never auditioned one. I've just annoyed the wife & asked for a translation of your other comments but she is not good with Tagalog so I'm not really sure what you are saying. Could you repeat in English please
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Oct 15, 2013 at 11:09 PM
Ricky I have no command of the language yet so I'm annoying the wife to translate.
Does your comment mean 'not really' ?

Hahaha yup that is what i meant.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Oct 15, 2013 at 11:21 PM
Bryston's are great amps but I have to admit I have never auditioned one. I've just annoyed the wife & asked for a translation of your other comments but she is not good with Tagalog so I'm not really sure what you are saying. Could you repeat in English please
Sorry for that...You have to start learning tagalog... ;D ;D
What I'm trying to say is the two pictures I posted here are good for your new place  ^-^
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: xgh0st12x on Oct 16, 2013 at 03:52 AM
Thanks for the comment but I'm a bit long in the tooth when it come to Audio & Video, let's just say I can hold my own. We are in a world of free speech so everything has a right to voice their opinion, whether or not one agrees with it is a matter of choice. I have my own ideas but as a retired electronics engineer I can use a lot of technical know how when making my decisions.

Indeed and without a doubt. You'll find however that some folks here in PDVD loosely joke around with the term voodoo (or "Kulam" as we fondly call it) when we appreciate the set ups of fellow members and jokingly goad them for more upgrades. (the jokes may at times be half meant but its all in good fun)

Anyway, looking forward to your setup! 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 16, 2013 at 05:17 AM
Sorry for that...You have to start learning tagalog... ;D ;D


I second the motion.  Our hobby is a journey of non-ending upgrades.  There are times that we try to hide some "secret purchases" and have our own way of having the right timing to tell our significant other.  Having her translate what is posted in this site can be harmful to your obsession, I mean, hobby. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif) 

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 16, 2013 at 05:19 AM
Indeed and without a doubt. You'll find however that some folks here in PDVD loosely joke around with the term voodoo (or "Kulam" as we fondly call it) when we appreciate the set ups of fellow members and jokingly goad them for more upgrades. (the jokes may at times be half meant but its all in good fun)

Anyway, looking forward to your setup! 

Believe me there are a lot here who have perfected the Powers of Persuasion (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/43.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 16, 2013 at 08:24 AM
Hahaha yup that is what i meant.
Thanks Ricky
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 16, 2013 at 08:41 AM
Sorry for that...You have to start learning tagalog... ;D ;D
What I'm trying to say is the two pictures I posted here are good for your new place  ^-^
You're right but I think it will be Bisaya first & then learn the differences between the two. I new I would have a big learning curve when I relocated here.
As JVC are recognised as making the best PJ's that is where I would start, I've also heard good reports of the screen. At the moment the 1st thing on the agenda is to get the HT built, the room to my acoustic liking & enjoying till the upgrade urge starts tugging. It may be a speaker upgrade 1st, TBH sound grabs me more than video but we'll see, one never knows what is around the corner, Holographic displays maybe.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 16, 2013 at 08:45 AM
Indeed and without a doubt. You'll find however that some folks here in PDVD loosely joke around with the term voodoo (or "Kulam" as we fondly call it) when we appreciate the set ups of fellow members and jokingly goad them for more upgrades. (the jokes may at times be half meant but its all in good fun)

Anyway, looking forward to your setup!
There are a lot of things I need to learn, thanks for the explanation.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 16, 2013 at 08:53 AM
I second the motion.  Our hobby is a journey of non-ending upgrades.  There are times that we try to hide some "secret purchases" and have our own way of having the right timing to tell our significant other.  Having her translate what is posted in this site can be harmful to your obsession, I mean, hobby. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
Haha you're absolutely correct doc but I think I would have trouble hiding most of the upgrades. For the small stuff a little white lie about the cost & get the good lady surprise present works well.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 16, 2013 at 08:58 AM
Believe me there are a lot here who have perfected the Powers of Persuasion (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/43.gif)
This looks as if it will be an interesting journey, I am not easily persuaded unless of course I agree with the subject. As I say it will be interesting, looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 16, 2013 at 09:06 AM
Earthquake update :- Visited the site yesterday, nothing has fallen down & no damage so that's a relief. I took a couple of photos of where the HT room will be, I'll post them once I've set my account up on Photobucket.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Oct 19, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Welcome to the HT Gallery sir.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 19, 2013 at 06:58 PM
Welcome to the HT Gallery sir.
Hi oReOsHaKe, Thanks for the welcome.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: docelmo on Oct 19, 2013 at 07:25 PM
Looking forward to this.......Reference HT!
Congrats Sir!
 ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Oct 19, 2013 at 08:11 PM
My gear :-
HT
Screen - Panasonic TH-85VX200W
AVR - Onkyo TX-NR5007
Pre Amp - Cambridge Audio 840E
Main Amp - Cambridge Audio 840W
Blu Ray Players - Oppo BDP 103 & Pioneer BDP-LX08
HD DVD Player - Onkyo DV-HD805
Video Scaler - Darbee DVP5000 Darblett
Subwoofer Equalizer - Anti Mode 8033C
Speakers - KEF   Q7  main fronts
                       IQ30  outside fronts, high fronts & rears
                       IQ8ds  surrounds
                       IQ60C  center
Subwoofer - BK Monolith

Stereo
Pre Amp - Cambridge Audio 851E  (on order)
Main Amp - Cambridge Audio 851W x 2 (on order)
CD - Cambridge Audio 851C
Turntable - Technice SL-QL1
Phono Pre Amp - Cambridge Audio 540P
Music Streamer - Cambridge Audio Stream Magic 6
Music Server - Cambridge Audio 640H
Speaker Optimizer - Anti Mode Dual Core (on order)
Speakers - Mordaunt Short Performance 6
Headphones - AKG K601
TV - Pioneer PDP-LX5090 (this will probably be in the same room as the stereo)
 
I shall looking for voltage regulators & surge suppressors next.
Watch this space !

I M P R E S S I V E !

I guess you got everything figured out already and its a matter of shipping the gears from the UK to Manila.

If you are still in the 'building' phase of the house, you can specify the following:

1. a different electrical circuit for your audio/HT room from the rest of the house

2. surge suppressor bank + voltage regulators can be integrated in a wall or ceiling somewhere OUTSIDE the room

3. wire up the HT/Audio room where the gears would be placed

Benefits:
1. The output voltage on the wall outlet IN the HT/Audio room is already 'filtered'.

2. There's no clutter of extension cords,big voltage regulators / surge suppressors competing with attention and space with the HT / Audio gears.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2013 at 08:23 AM
Looking forward to this.......Reference HT!
Congrats Sir!
 ;D
Hi docelmo, thanks for your comment.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2013 at 09:07 AM
I M P R E S S I V E !

I guess you got everything figured out already and its a matter of shipping the gears from the UK to Manila.

If you are still in the 'building' phase of the house, you can specify the following:

1. a different electrical circuit for your audio/HT room from the rest of the house

2. surge suppressor bank + voltage regulators can be integrated in a wall or ceiling somewhere OUTSIDE the room

3. wire up the HT/Audio room where the gears would be placed

Benefits:
1. The output voltage on the wall outlet IN the HT/Audio room is already 'filtered'.

2. There's no clutter of extension cords,big voltage regulators / surge suppressors competing with attention and space with the HT / Audio gears.
Hi Mikeer, thanks for your thoughts & advice. As a retired electronics engineer I've already stuck my nose into the electrical spec. & specified the Audio & HT outlets to be isolated from the rest of the house, each will have 2 separate feeds each. I aim for each system to have it's  own AVR, the whole house will be surge suppressed with local suppression for Audio & HT & I will also be using line conditioners.
The house will also be networked, which reminds me I forgot to put the networking kit on the list of gear - I will do that shortly.
Yes everything is in the UK waiting for my residents visa to be approved before shipping to Cebu. I will also be bringing all the cable & interconnects that I need but I'm sure I've forgotten one or two things so I'll be asking you guys for assistance if I get into difficulties.
At the moment the only work in the HT room for the builder will be the dry walling & insulation, the rest I will do myself as I am very handy at DIY. I will even try my hand at carpet laying, there is also the satisfaction factor - 'I did that'.
The only kit I have brought with me are the network switches, firewall & router. I spotted some very nice HT seats & just had to have them, I will post pictures of those later.
Thanks  again for your suggestions, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 20, 2013 at 09:38 AM
"Leave me alone. I know what I am doing." - Kimi Raikkonen, Lotus F1 Team
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Narayan on Oct 20, 2013 at 09:41 AM
Welcome OBR and looking forward to the completion of your audio/video room with much excitement 8)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2013 at 10:11 AM
"Leave me alone. I know what I am doing." - Kimi Raikkonen, Lotus F1 Team
Hi Gino, I'm familiar with that quote being an avid F1 follower - or I was until my gear went into storage. In my experience I have found that it doesn't matter how much you think you know some one always comes along with a tit bit of information & you think 'I never thought of that'. So I welcome any offer of advice & thank those who taking the time to offer help - that's my philosophy. I also appreciate the banter, it stops life being boring.   
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2013 at 10:21 AM
Welcome OBR and looking forward to the completion of your audio/video room with much excitement 8)
Hi Narayan thanks for the welcome. I'm also looking forward to completion so I can again wallow in sound & vision. Not looking forward to the hard sweat when I get involved with the build. There will be a dedicated HT room & the stereo will be in the living room which will be acoustically horrible hence the Anti Mode Dual Core. I would have liked a separate stereo room but the cost would have been prohibitive but I may convert one of the bedrooms at a later date.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 20, 2013 at 11:04 AM
Join us at Chit-Chat>Hobbie & Interests>Formula 1 --2013.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Join us at Chit-Chat>Hobbie & Interests>Formula 1 --2013.
Thanks for the invite Gino, I will join you as soon as I've sorted out my Photobucket account & downloaded some piccies.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2013 at 06:59 PM
Piccies of the HT site
(https://i.imgur.com/S1bAk1C.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aI8ZDvr.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2013 at 07:06 PM
Piccies of HT seats

(https://i.imgur.com/tOwEUqM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/K4iPywC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/AMCtjiD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/t5nmKXr.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2013 at 07:10 PM
To post pic:

1. Create account in photobucket.com.
2. Create an album there if you wish to be organized.
3. Click Upload button somewhere on top of page.
4. Choose the Album name in the dropdown toggle of uploader.
5. Drag and drop the photos.
6. Best to upload 700px max width or height on the longest side. (A courtesy to mobile surfers)
7. Go to album and click on a photo you wish to post.
8. Upper right of photo thumbnail is a gear icon. Click that.
9. Choose share.
10. Choose forum link. Tap the suggested url and it should say "copied".
11. Right click that on your thread post.
Thanks Gino, I've got the hang of posting piccies all I've got to do is sort the size out now.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Oct 20, 2013 at 07:38 PM
Wow! Nice seats, i can sleep all day there ;D ;D ;D

To change the size of pix, just modify your post and change
[img width=x height=y]

You could adjust x & y but maintain aspect ratio..use basic arithmetic.
For example, if x=900 & y=700 and you want to reduce the size
Lets say x=600, to get the y, simply divide 600÷900=0.6666 then multiply by 700=467 (new value for y)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 21, 2013 at 09:52 AM
Wow! Nice seats, i can sleep all day there ;D ;D ;D

To change the size of pix, just modify your post and change
[img width=x height=y]

You could adjust x & y but maintain aspect ratio..use basic arithmetic.
For example, if x=900 & y=700 and you want to reduce the size
Lets say x=600, to get the y, simply divide 600÷900=0.6666 then multiply by 700=467 (new value for y)
Hi jh@meeh, you can commandeer the rear row, the wife has already claimed the front row.
Thanks for the size changing instructions, I'll give it a go.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 21, 2013 at 10:11 AM
Hi jh@meeh, you can commandeer the rear row, the wife has already claimed the front row.
Thanks for the size changing instructions, I'll give it a go.

Thanks JH, you guys will make me an expert at this forum lark, only the language to go  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 21, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Your pic size are just right. iPhone friendly. That is a very nice location you have. Lots of trees around and fields. This will be a very interesting build. Nice.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Oct 21, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Looks like your seats are 3months ahead of schedule bro, just right for the break in period haha
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Oct 21, 2013 at 11:23 AM
those are really nice-looking HT seats! :D 

btw, I noticed that the room's walls are white and there are many windows. I think some light control (heavy curtains or blinds?) and acoustic treatment are in order. ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 21, 2013 at 11:54 AM
Your pic size are just right. iPhone friendly. That is a very nice location you have. Lots of trees around and fields. This will be a very interesting build. Nice.

Thanks Gino, I got something right at last. Yes location is good, towards the top of a hill & overlooking the sea. Was concerned a little on the possibility of landslip after the recent quake but I've been assured that the strata of rock just under the surface should negate any problems. As they say it's full steam ahead.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM
those are really nice-looking HT seats! :D 

btw, I noticed that the room's walls are white and there are many windows. I think some light control (heavy curtains or blinds?) and acoustic treatment are in order. ;)

Hi DTNS, thanks for the like, not to worry about room in the pics it's the living area of the unit we're renting while our house is being built & the HT room will have no windows, only a door to the outside world. Thanks for the thought
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 21, 2013 at 12:13 PM
Looks like your seats are 3months ahead of schedule bro, just right for the break in period haha

Hi Ricky, yes the seats will be well broken in by the time the wife has finished with them  ;D ;D ;D.
My supplier would not hold them in stock, they were also the last 2 sets & they couldn't tell me if they would be restocking. I had no option but to buy & put them in storage. That was until we moved to be closer to the house build & then wife got her way as she can curl up in them & go to sleep. At least they have WAF  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM
A bit too late but an HT room pre-nup should have been drafted.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 21, 2013 at 12:59 PM
A bit too late but an HT room pre-nup should have been drafted.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Oct 21, 2013 at 01:54 PM
Piccies of HT seats

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/HTseats002_zps15c5d40d.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/HTseats002_zps15c5d40d.jpg.html)

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/HTseats005_zpsed82f345.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/HTseats005_zpsed82f345.jpg.html)

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/HTseats003_zps161ff86d.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/HTseats003_zps161ff86d.jpg.html)

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/HTseats001_zpsa868a367.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/HTseats001_zpsa868a367.jpg.html)


I think I saw this HT seat at Mandaue Furnitures.  I would have bought this but it was just too wide for my HT.  No more space at the sides.  And I prefer the darker brown or black color.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 21, 2013 at 02:04 PM
Those seats really look cozy but I'm sure it would really take a lot of space. I would think that you would have a big HT on the way--needing another sub? (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif) By the way, does the center seat recline as well? 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Oct 21, 2013 at 06:47 PM
congrats!! excited for the photos.
 :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 21, 2013 at 08:54 PM
I think I saw this HT seat at Mandaue Furnitures.  I would have bought this but it was just too wide for my HT.  No more space at the sides.  And I prefer the darker brown or black color.

Well spotted sir, yes they're from Mandaue foam. They're imported but for some strange reason can't tell you what will be reordered & in what colour. I would have preferred a darker colour but with all the uncertainty took these, they were by far the best I had been looking at. I'll have to be a little careful the HT rooms colours. BTW they have restocked in black leather even wider, center is a 2 seater making the set around 3.5 M wide. The final internal dimension of my HT room will be a little over 5 meters leaving me just over 1 M clearance each side.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 21, 2013 at 09:10 PM
Those seats really look cozy but I'm sure it would really take a lot of space. I would think that you would have a big HT on the way--needing another sub? (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif) By the way, does the center seat recline as well?

Hi Doc, they do take up a lot of space especially when you're having 2 rows. No only the outside seats recline so the sweet spot is a foot stool job. The final internal dimensions of my HT room will be 7.12 M x 5.12 M so I should be OK. I've been going over my room design today & redone the stage & I think it will look quite cozy. Another sub - steady, seriously I have already spoken to BK & they will ship so I have left my options open.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 21, 2013 at 09:14 PM
congrats!! excited for the photos.
 :)

Thanks nolax, at the moment the seats are covered so they'll still be in good condition for the big switch on.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 21, 2013 at 11:11 PM
Hi Doc, they do take up a lot of space especially when you're having 2 rows. No only the outside seats recline so the sweet spot is a foot stool job.

I seldom see a 3 seat recliner that can recline even the middle one.  But I wouldn't mind even if the sweet spot is unreclined with those seats.   

The final internal dimensions of my HT room will be 7.12 M x 5.12 M so I should be OK.

35++ sq. Meters. That's quite a huge HT! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/13.gif)

Another sub - steady, seriously I have already spoken to BK & they will ship so I have left my options  open.

The option is closed to a dual sub set-up then. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 22, 2013 at 08:58 AM
I seldom see a 3 seat recliner that can recline even the middle one.  But I wouldn't mind even if the sweet spot is unreclined with those seats.   

35++ sq. Meters. That's quite a huge HT! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/13.gif)

The option is closed to a dual sub set-up then. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)

Hi Doc, I think you have to get singles for a center recliner but like you I'll settle for as it is coz I'll be in the sweet spot & I have a nice big comfy foot stool.
My listening area back in the UK was around 23 sq M so I've increased 50%, it's going to be interesting.
I've always been of the opinion that a single sub set up properly would be sufficient the exception being for those who can detect where the LFE is coming from. Once I've set up the existing gear I'll have good think about the benefits of a second sub.
Due to the size of the room the Stereo will be in I may need a sub for that system - we'll see.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Oct 22, 2013 at 09:16 AM
We carry Berkline brand of recliners and all seats recline(1-infinity) either manually or motorized just in case you want another row hehe.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 22, 2013 at 10:56 AM
We carry Berkline brand of recliners and all seats recline(1-infinity) either manually or motorized just in case you want another row hehe.

Hi Ricky, I take it Berkline are from the USA ? They seem to be way in front when it comes to HT builds. You never know my seats may fall apart considering the usage they're going to get. It's nice to know of an alternative supplier. BTW where are you situated & what sort of costs for similar to what I have now. I'm still pretty active  >:D >:D >:D so for now it would be the manual seats. Can you send me piccies ?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 22, 2013 at 11:19 AM
We carry Berkline brand of recliners and all seats recline(1-infinity) either manually or motorized just in case you want another row hehe.

Hi Ricky, just looked at the HT plans & I think I could fit another row in. It means front row viewing from around 8 feet which brings us into THX territory  ;D ;D ;D. I have a little time to ponder & reflect the size of the wife's family locally. I don't have to worry about mine they'll only be over here rarely. Mind you should I decide a another row the house design would have to change slightly. At the moment the HT floor is below the upper ground fl. by the height of the seat plinth so a 3 rd row would mean lowering the floor another 1 foot. The entry door will open onto the seat plinth. Mmmmmmmmmm pondering.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 22, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Hi Ricky, just looked at the HT plans & I think I could fit another row in. It means front row viewing from around 8 feet which brings us into THX territory  ;D ;D ;D. I have a little time to ponder & reflect the size of the wife's family locally. I don't have to worry about mine they'll only be over here rarely. Mind you should I decide a another row the house design would have to change slightly. At the moment the HT floor is below the upper ground fl. by the height of the seat plinth so a 3 rd row would mean lowering the floor another 1 foot. The entry door will open onto the seat plinth. Mmmmmmmmmm pondering.

That's the sequel after a warlock has cast their spell on you.

 ;D

That's common here.  ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 22, 2013 at 02:24 PM
That's the sequel after a warlock has cast their spell on you.

 ;D

That's common here.  ;)

Hi Nelson, point taken  :) Originally the HT room was to be 1 M longer to give the option of the 3 rd row, so the thought was sitting in the back of my mind. as we all know ideas change rather quickly in our pastime but whether or not they can be implemented is another matter.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Oct 22, 2013 at 07:27 PM
Hi Ricky, just looked at the HT plans & I think I could fit another row in. It means front row viewing from around 8 feet which brings us into THX territory  ;D ;D ;D. I have a little time to ponder & reflect the size of the wife's family locally. I don't have to worry about mine they'll only be over here rarely. Mind you should I decide a another row the house design would have to change slightly. At the moment the HT floor is below the upper ground fl. by the height of the seat plinth so a 3 rd row would mean lowering the floor another 1 foot. The entry door will open onto the seat plinth. Mmmmmmmmmm pondering.

Since you are in the province and you are considering the size of your wife's family into consideration then a 3rd row is still not sufficient. I am sure " the more the merrier " " lipay man gyud kaayo kung daghan pud ang mutan-aw sa imong sine sa balay"(let your wife read this and translate)hehe

Seriously, you can do away with 1 row recliner and the next row as a bar counter with bar stools for that happy happy karaoke nights.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 22, 2013 at 08:11 PM
If you have 2 rows, would there be room enough for both rows on a full recline?  As I've said these seats really take a lot of space.  In my HT, if the front seats are in full recline, no room for viewers on the 2nd row.  But I have space limitations.  14 Sqm vs 35 sqm is a big difference so I guess yours look doable.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Oct 22, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Doc wach row consumes 1m of space so at 7m with 2 rows and a 120" projector screen will be just right wink, now for the 3rd row , that's another story hahahah.

Oldboy no need to elevate 2nd or 3rd row if you are on projector setup since your ceiling height is 3m that will be fine already just as long as the seats are reclined properly
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 22, 2013 at 09:32 PM
Hi. I like the dimensions of your HT. However, if you move your front seat to just 8 feet from the display, you will have a couple of issues, among which are:

1) You will restrict the placement of your front speakers. What if the optimal location is 4 feet from the front walls? That would put the speakers possibly too close to the listening positions. What if you want Wide and Height speakers? If the front seats are too close to the display, there may not be enough room.

2) 8 feet from an 85" (diagonal) display is close but doable. Unfortunately, if you decide to have a bigger screen in the future, you would be too close. Given the size of your room, you should really have a screen that is 133" diagonal minimum. Otherwise, those sitting at the back will see a very tiny screen and you waste the size of your room.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 22, 2013 at 10:10 PM
Seems like an 85 inch plasma with a pulldown PJ screen in front of the TV is the way to go. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 08:23 AM
Since you are in the province and you are considering the size of your wife's family into consideration then a 3rd row is still not sufficient. I am sure " the more the merrier " " lipay man gyud kaayo kung daghan pud ang mutan-aw sa imong sine sa balay"(let your wife read this and translate)hehe

Seriously, you can do away with 1 row recliner and the next row as a bar counter with bar stools for that happy happy karaoke nights.

The wife's family here in Cebu is small at the moment, 2 brothers, 1 sister & 1 sister in law + 3 children. The rest are split between Manila & Mindanao. I obviously couldn't cater for all of them but was considering bean bags for the overspill. The good thing about being in the design stage is I've got plenty of time to think about all the possibilities before making a final decision. A lot will be niceties that will be discarded as impractical the rest will be either implemented or tucked away for future developement.
The wife had a smile when she translated  ;D.
I'm not a great lover of bar counters & one things for certain, no Karaoke in the HT room. The living room where the Stereo will be, now that's a different matter. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 23, 2013 at 08:35 AM
@oldboyracers

Welcome to the HT gallery. bookmarking this thread, everyone's looking forward to see your  dedicated HT build.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Oct 23, 2013 at 08:58 AM
Obr, we are now incorporating the karaoke part in ht esp if the room is well treated. Aside from containing the happiness aka noise inside the room, it also helps improve the voice quality hehe. Also karaoke in the big screen is awesome same as in gaming experience hehe.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 09:12 AM
If you have 2 rows, would there be room enough for both rows on a full recline?  As I've said these seats really take a lot of space.  In my HT, if the front seats are in full recline, no room for viewers on the 2nd row.  But I have space limitations.  14 Sqm vs 35 sqm is a big difference so I guess yours look doable.

Hi Doc, at the moment my design allows 1 M between the 2 rows & the required space for full recline is
94 cm so the 6 cm clearance will allow people 1.85 M tall to fully recline. This will give 58 cm clearance to rear wall with back row in full recline. My initial thought is viewing distance of 3 M for the front row, I'm basing this on my viewing distance with my 50" in the UK. This may change after I've done some experimenting, I've got to get the cardboard 85"er on the wall.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 09:19 AM
Doc wach row consumes 1m of space so at 7m with 2 rows and a 120" projector screen will be just right wink, now for the 3rd row , that's another story hahahah.

Oldboy no need to elevate 2nd or 3rd row if you are on projector setup since your ceiling height is 3m that will be fine already just as long as the seats are reclined properly

Hi Ricky, I'm OK for space with 2 rows but the 3rd would be tight & also could interfere with decision to go PJ in the future.
Thanks for the heads up on seat elevation if using a PJ setup but to start with it will be the 85" Panny so raised 2nd row it is. 3rd row ?????????????????????
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 09:41 AM
Hi. I like the dimensions of your HT. However, if you move your front seat to just 8 feet from the display, you will have a couple of issues, among which are:

1) You will restrict the placement of your front speakers. What if the optimal location is 4 feet from the front walls? That would put the speakers possibly too close to the listening positions. What if you want Wide and Height speakers? If the front seats are too close to the display, there may not be enough room.

2) 8 feet from an 85" (diagonal) display is close but doable. Unfortunately, if you decide to have a bigger screen in the future, you would be too close. Given the size of your room, you should really have a screen that is 133" diagonal minimum. Otherwise, those sitting at the back will see a very tiny screen and you waste the size of your room.

Good luck!

Hi streetsmart, I have an 11.1 setup at the moment (if fellow forum members get their way it'll become 11.2  ;D) so front wides & highs will be installed & my main focus will be on SQ.
The Panny will be mounted just under 1 M from the front wall so if there is a PJ upgrade the screen can go back a bit. I agree 8' is a bit close, I'm not so sure my eyes could take it, they're not the best part of me hehe. 10' looks favourite at the moment but I have some juggling room.
Thanks for your observation I will take them on board & thanks for dropping in. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 09:46 AM
Seems like an 85 inch plasma with a pulldown PJ screen in front of the TV is the way to go. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)

Hi Doc, steady, if the Panny was on the front wall that would be an option but as it's going to be mounted 1 M out I'll have to bin that idea but thanks for the thought  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 09:49 AM
@oldboyracers

Welcome to the HT gallery. bookmarking this thread, everyone's looking forward to see your  dedicated HT build.
Hi toys4geeks, thanks for your vote of confidence - welcome to my world.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 23, 2013 at 09:53 AM
Sir OBR, just would like to suggest that if there's a possibility of installing front projector in the future you might consider preparing the HDMI cable from your video processor to the planned PJ location and also the power source for the PJ :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Oct 23, 2013 at 10:02 AM
Sir OBR, just would like to suggest that if there's a possibility of installing front projector in the future you might consider preparing the HDMI cable from your video processor to the planned PJ location and also the power source for the PJ :)

and cables for possible 11.2.  all possible locations where you can possibly place your subs either at the front or back. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 23, 2013 at 10:04 AM
Sir OBR, just would like to suggest that if there's a possibility of installing front projector in the future you might consider preparing the HDMI cable from your video processor to the planned PJ location and also the power source for the PJ :)

+1000!!! I learned this the hard way had 1.3 and later had to change HDMI 1.4 and decided taking out the floor panel concealing the old cable is such a hassle.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 10:06 AM
Obr, we are now incorporating the karaoke part in ht esp if the room is well treated. Aside from containing the happiness aka noise inside the room, it also helps improve the voice quality hehe. Also karaoke in the big screen is awesome same as in gaming experience hehe.

Ricky, I hate to say this but I can't stand Karaoke but since it's part of the culture here I have learnt to live with it. I have 2 Karaoke bars within 50 M of our rented home & the wife & maid having good voices like to rattle their tonsils. I have to make an admission, while under the influence of the dreaded San Mig have been known to warble a few bars of Pink Floyd & Alan Parsons Project. For the time being any Karaoke will be on the Stereo system but must admit looking forward to a little gaming on the 85"  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 10:19 AM
Sir OBR, just would like to suggest that if there's a possibility of installing front projector in the future you might consider preparing the HDMI cable from your video processor to the planned PJ location and also the power source for the PJ :)

Hi Louie, thanks for the reminder. It's a possibility I may build a dedicated equipment room in the future so I will be covering all bases.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 10:23 AM
and cables for possible 11.2.  all possible locations where you can possibly place your subs either at the front or back.

Not to worry oReOsHaKe I'll make sure I have access to everything.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 10:26 AM
+1000!!! I learned this the hard way had 1.3 and later had to change HDMI 1.4 and decided taking out the floor panel concealing the old cable is such a hassle.

The cable routes I have planned at the moment will make it fairly easy to make these sort of changes - thanks.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 10:32 AM
I don't know what's going to be more work, keeping up with this thread or building the HT  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Weng! on Oct 23, 2013 at 12:32 PM
I don't know what's going to be more work, keeping up with this thread or building the HT  ;D ;D ;D

Hi OBR,

This will be an awesome build to look forward to. Will pin this thread to my daily routine readings in the morning.

Keeping up the thread is a bit of a task especially when members are trying to lure you to go PJ and dual/quad subs route  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 02:50 PM
Hi OBR,

This will be an awesome build to look forward to. Will pin this thread to my daily routine readings in the morning.

Keeping up the thread is a bit of a task especially when members are trying to lure you to go PJ and dual/quad subs route  >:D >:D >:D

Hi Weng, If the build is awesome I hope the sound follows. I already know the PQ is going to be a lot better than I've had before. My room back in the UK was L shaped with the seating at the narrow end. All my visitors said the same thing to me "why do you want to upgrade, it looks & sounds awesome as at is" so I am rather excited, unless I do something radically wrong awesome is going to become super awesome.
At the moment keeping the thread up is not a problem even though I have to keep asking the wife to translate when looking at other threads. It's when I start spending long days on the HT room build that it may become difficult. A small price to pay for ultimate enjoyment.
I've spent quite a few years of being lured so quite used to it. If I have the loose change & it follows my line of thinking I give in, if it doesn't, well that's a different matter.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 23, 2013 at 07:04 PM
The only other parts of the system that I have here are :-

Wireless router

(https://i.imgur.com/Ao6zxkb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oZ7fUr1.jpg)

HT & Gaming 5 port switch

(https://i.imgur.com/A2p37p4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Lgyo025.jpg)

Prosafe 8 port switch

(https://i.imgur.com/OrFscvL.jpg)

Firewall

(https://i.imgur.com/W2fQV1F.jpg)

Everything else is in the container waiting to be shipped except for the few items I have on order locally.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: raiden213 on Oct 25, 2013 at 09:14 PM
What a very impressive gears you got obr! I am just on the planning stage to build my own HT room but can't help get excited on the outcome of your HT haven. I will be looking closely on your thread to get some ideas I can use. Goodluck!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 25, 2013 at 10:11 PM
What a very impressive gears you got obr! I am just on the planning stage to build my own HT room but can't help get excited on the outcome of your HT haven. I will be looking closely on your thread to get some ideas I can use. Goodluck!

Thanks for your kind comments, what time scale are you thinking about about for your build ? I have done some intensive research & to be quite honest it's headache material. For every person who says one thing another says the opposite. It's a case of taking the parts that you agree with & utilising them to your best ability & of course with the help of PDVD. All my info. is in my PC in my container waiting to be delivered, if you have 2 months to wait I'll be able to send you pdf's etc. of HT builds. In the mean time if you have any questions I'll be happy to answer them.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: raiden213 on Oct 26, 2013 at 06:09 PM
Thanks for your kind comments, what time scale are you thinking about about for your build ? I have done some intensive research & to be quite honest it's headache material. For every person who says one thing another says the opposite. It's a case of taking the parts that you agree with & utilising them to your best ability & of course with the help of PDVD. All my info. is in my PC in my container waiting to be delivered, if you have 2 months to wait I'll be able to send you pdf's etc. of HT builds. In the mean time if you have any questions I'll be happy to answer them.

Thanks Oldboyracer! I would surely benefit from any info that I can collect to build my own haven. I am very early on my planning stages so I think I have a couple more months to go before I can finalize the plan. I have made a sketch (tho) a messy one on how I want my basement floor will look like on my own thread. It will all depends if I can make the crawl space level with the basement flooring without compromising the integrity and strength of the top floor (garage). I will be asking around for experts if that is doable, since it will really make the basement much useful than it is right now. I also need help on finding the best solution to help contain the noise from the HT room since the right side of the basement based from the picture I posted is a 2 bedroom suite that I am renting to university students on my area, that way I wouldn't be causing trouble during game/movie watching.

Again, thanks for offering to help. Keep me posted of anything that can help me realize a longtime dream of mine.

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 31, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Visited Sounds N Images yesterday so it looks like I will be adding 2 Richard Gray power conditioners plus extenders to the list of gear.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Weng! on Oct 31, 2013 at 11:53 AM
Visited Sounds N Images yesterday so it looks like I will be adding 2 Richard Gray power conditioners plus extenders to the list of gear.

congrats on your new gear. maybe on your next visit to ths shop, you will bring home a lot more goodies. been to that shop once, all hi-end gears :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 31, 2013 at 01:37 PM
congrats on your new gear. maybe on your next visit to ths shop, you will bring home a lot more goodies. been to that shop once, all hi-end gears :)

Hi sir, listened to an Accuphase set up while I was there & it reminded me I've forgotten what my system sounds like so couldn't compare. It's been 7 months now without my sounds & I'm getting a little impatient. The house has around another 4 & half months before completion & it's possible the HT will be installed & set up before the stereo. I'll be off to the site shortly to crack the whip  ;D ;D ;D ;
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Oct 31, 2013 at 02:42 PM
Crack the whip and you will be rewarded  ;D....You need a longggggg patience my dear   :o ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 01, 2013 at 06:12 AM
Visited Sounds N Images yesterday so it looks like I will be adding 2 Richard Gray power conditioners plus extenders to the list of gear.

Where is Sounds N Images?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Weng! on Nov 01, 2013 at 06:57 AM
Where is Sounds N Images?

cebu
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 01, 2013 at 09:42 PM
Crack the whip and you will be rewarded  ;D....You need a longggggg patience my dear   :o ;D

Tell me about it, since I've relocated I've had to develop the patience of a saint  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 01, 2013 at 09:48 PM
Where is Sounds N Images?

MLD Building, Banilad Street, Cebu City  Ferdie's mob. no. 09173212079
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 01, 2013 at 09:50 PM
cebu

You beat me to it, I should have looked at all the posts first. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 01, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Oh yeah forgot you guys are from Cebu.  I thought there was a new shop here in Manila. My bad! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/40.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Nov 01, 2013 at 11:42 PM
Congratulations! Impressive line-up of gears!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 02, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Oh yeah forgot you guys are from Cebu.  I thought there was a new shop here in Manila. My bad! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/40.gif)

It's a pity, Ferdie is a really helpful guy & prompt. Got me some answers from the US within a few hours.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 02, 2013 at 10:07 AM
Congratulations! Impressive line-up of gears!

Hi Superman - thanks
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 02, 2013 at 07:23 PM
Up to date photo of the HT room site

(https://i.imgur.com/nrwGJ2U.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 02, 2013 at 07:59 PM
As a skeptic of exotic power leads I've done some intensive research today & given myself a headache looking at technical data & manufacturers claims. Lots of users say they hear differences when they've upgraded their leads so after looking at quite a few DIY projects I've decided to make a few to try. I'm hoping I will have to eat humble pie coz it will save me a fortune, at the last count I need 16. Unfortunately I won't be able use them for a while but at least I'll have some ready to try.
I will post a review.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 03, 2013 at 02:21 PM
OBR, seems like a long wait from this.....

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Nov22013013_zps0e5183de.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Nov22013013_zps0e5183de.jpg.html)


To this...(http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/105.gif)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/56c1c6b7-c562-45e7-99b7-3db3af57ac81_zpsee059421.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 03, 2013 at 07:41 PM
OBR, seems like a long wait from this.....

(https://i.imgur.com/nrwGJ2U.jpg)

To this...(http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/105.gif)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/nirvblakr/56c1c6b7-c562-45e7-99b7-3db3af57ac81_zpsee059421.jpg)

Hi Doc, so very true but hopefully I can start working in a couple of months. BTW nice HT room, wouldn't be my choice of colours but wouldn't it be a boring world if everyone liked the same thing.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 05, 2013 at 10:04 AM
Sir OBR,
You might want to see this HT Build >:D

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1351987/theater-build-mikes-money-pit (http://www.avsforum.com/t/1351987/theater-build-mikes-money-pit)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 05, 2013 at 06:18 PM
Sir OBR,
You might want to see this HT Build >:D

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1351987/theater-build-mikes-money-pit (http://www.avsforum.com/t/1351987/theater-build-mikes-money-pit)

Hi Louie,

I've just read a couple of pages & it looks interesting, thanks for the thread. This build is probably way in excess of what I will be spending but I dare say I may pick up a few tips. I've noticed 2 similarities already apart from the room sizes which are similar.
 1) The front row will be dropped 12" - I am having my HT room floor 12" below the living room & will build the riser to meet that level.
2) He has made his stage 6" high - I have the same height.
As the thread is 325 pages long it's going to take some time to wade through it.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 05, 2013 at 06:21 PM
What a difference 2 days makes, at long last the HT room is rising.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZNvJQ0b.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Nov 05, 2013 at 09:38 PM
Your making a good progress now, continue cracking the whip  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 06, 2013 at 06:06 AM
Your making a good progress now, continue cracking the whip  ;D ;D ;D

Hi JH,

I've got to be careful, must leave some skin on their backs  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 06, 2013 at 10:13 PM
Newly arrived - 1 more to come in Sounds N Images next shipment from the US

(https://i.imgur.com/YHczc97.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 07, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Wowow!!!
Can I have some sir OBR? Hahaha ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 07, 2013 at 01:16 PM
Hi Louie,

I've just read a couple of pages & it looks interesting, thanks for the thread. This build is probably way in excess of what I will be spending but I dare say I may pick up a few tips. I've noticed 2 similarities already apart from the room sizes which are similar.
 1) The front row will be dropped 12" - I am having my HT room floor 12" below the living room & will build the riser to meet that level.
2) He has made his stage 6" high - I have the same height.
As the thread is 325 pages long it's going to take some time to wade through it.

Hi Louie, just read the complete thread, very very interesting, also very expensive I should think. I have been toying with the idea of covering the walls with fabric but hadn't considered using acoustic treatment behind the fabric. Much food for thought, again thanks for the thread.
I'm not quite sure what I was thinking of when wrote 325 pages, must have been half asleep - 244 posts  doh ! 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 07, 2013 at 01:38 PM
Hi Louie, just read the complete thread, very very interesting, also very expensive I should think. I have been toying with the idea of covering the walls with fabric but hadn't considered using acoustic treatment behind the fabric. Much food for thought, again thanks for the thread.
I'm not quite sure what I was thinking of when wrote 325 pages, must have been half asleep - 244 posts  doh ! 

Hahaha! ;D
Yeah I just realized too that the thread is only 8 pages ^-^
The acoustic treatment behind the fabric would help with room response and sound proofing...
You might want to consider also the material being used by "Erwin Allen" with his acoustic panels because it is health and eco friendly unlike rockwool and fiberglass... I think it is called Cellulose Fiber Insulator

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,179504.msg1906997.html#msg1906997 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,179504.msg1906997.html#msg1906997)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 11, 2013 at 07:04 PM
Hi guys,

No water for 2 days & no power for 3 - thanks Yolanda, normal service is resumed.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 11, 2013 at 07:07 PM
Wowow!!!
Can I have some sir OBR? Hahaha ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 11, 2013 at 08:01 PM
Hahaha! ;D
Yeah I just realized too that the thread is only 8 pages ^-^
The acoustic treatment behind the fabric would help with room response and sound proofing...
You might want to consider also the material being used by "Erwin Allen" with his acoustic panels because it is health and eco friendly unlike rockwool and fiberglass... I think it is called Cellulose Fiber Insulator

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,179504.msg1906997.html#msg1906997 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,179504.msg1906997.html#msg1906997)

Thanks for this Louie, I was going to post - help where can I get acousticly transparent material ? I was going to make my own panels but think I may have changed my mind also I now have a supplier of Green Glue. I will definitely be getting in touch with Erwin.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 11, 2013 at 08:22 PM
Hahaha! ;D
Yeah I just realized too that the thread is only 8 pages ^-^
The acoustic treatment behind the fabric would help with room response and sound proofing...
You might want to consider also the material being used by "Erwin Allen" with his acoustic panels because it is health and eco friendly unlike rockwool and fiberglass... I think it is called Cellulose Fiber Insulator

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,179504.msg1906997.html#msg1906997 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,179504.msg1906997.html#msg1906997)

The sound proofing I don't have a problem with, as I'll be building a 100mm stud wall inside the outside wall it will be sealed with 1 layer of 12.5mm ply, Green Glue & 25mm Gypsum board. Haven't yet decided whether to use Rockwool or Fiberglass blanket as the soundproofing, maybe availability will decide this. I had thought of using a 100mm layer of open cell spray on foam type insulation but still undecided. I've read such a lot but still have a few ideas of my own that I would like to try, if I get it wrong it'll be another upgrade  >:D >:D >:D
Slowly getting it together, AVR's arrive tomorrow so that's another piece of the puzzle. I'm going to go now otherwise this will become 'War & Peace'
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 12, 2013 at 02:20 PM
Oldboyracer,
I see that you have an Asustor NAS (AS 604T).  How's the overall performance as a media player/server?  I believe it has an HDMI out more of like a NAS+NMT player in one.   

I'm eyeing on AS-302T which includes HDMI as well.  I'm thinking to have this setup instead of purchasing a separate NMT for my needs.  How's XBMC?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Nov 12, 2013 at 02:42 PM
How are you, sir? Was told there was another earthquake aftershock at 1:00PM today? Stay safe!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Nov 13, 2013 at 01:28 AM
Hi guys,

No water for 2 days & now power for 3 - thanks Yolanda, normal service is resumed.

was the construction site affected by Yolanda? hope nobody was hurt. :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 14, 2013 at 03:36 PM
Oldboyracer,
I see that you have an Asustor NAS (AS 604T).  How's the overall performance as a media player/server?  I believe it has an HDMI out more of like a NAS+NMT player in one.   

I'm eyeing on AS-302T which includes HDMI as well.  I'm thinking to have this setup instead of purchasing a separate NMT for my needs.  How's XBMC?

Hi rhizom3 I afraid I can't be of much help at the moment. I only purchased the AS 604T just prior to relocating here in April & it's still in storage. This is going to be my 1st foray into networking so bought all the gear & I'll have a play in about 4 months time when the house is completed. My choice was influenced by 1) ease of set up & 2) very user friendly.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 14, 2013 at 03:43 PM
How are you, sir? Was told there was another earthquake aftershock at 1:00PM today? Stay safe!

Hi Superman, all OK here, your quite correct a small aftershock but enough to make you sit up & say 'aye aye, mother nature's complaining again'.
No phone or internet for 24 hours, a truck tore down our telephone line yesterday, now repaired.
Thanks for your concern sir.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 14, 2013 at 03:53 PM
was the construction site affected by Yolanda? hope nobody was hurt. :)

Hi DTNS, I spoke too soon, a truck tore down our telephone line yesterday so no phone or internet for 24 hours, repaired now. Fortunately not 1 peso of damage to the site, sent the workforce home Thursday night & just the wife's brother & 2 brother in law's keeping an eye on things (they're over from Mindanao). They got rather wet but due to the lie of the land they were fairly well shielded. Thank you Lord.
Thanks for your concern, I feel really heartbroken for those that have been badly affected by Yolanda. Coming from the UK events like this are only news but now I'm part of it, it really is an awakening.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 14, 2013 at 04:15 PM
Ok, thanks mate.  I was just curious why Asustor and not Synology or Qnap.  But hey, Asustor has an impressive NAS line up with a tempting price tag.  This company is quite new to this network storage industry (~3yrs) and I'm still in 'monitoring' mode.

I hope your family is OK in the midst of this terrible phenomenon happened in Visayas.

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 14, 2013 at 04:24 PM
Latest arrivals

7.5 & 10 KVA AVR's

(https://i.imgur.com/zfKwL3C.jpg)

7.5 KVA

(https://i.imgur.com/TznPKNE.jpg)

10 KVA

(https://i.imgur.com/HAaM3TW.jpg)

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 14, 2013 at 05:12 PM
Ok, thanks mate.  I was just curious why Asustor and not Synology or Qnap.  But hey, Asustor has an impressive NAS line up with a tempting price tag.  This company is quite new to this network storage industry (~3yrs) and I'm still in 'monitoring' mode.

I hope your family is OK in the midst of this terrible phenomenon happened in Visayas.

Thanks for your concern, we were fortunate, no damage, injury or loss. Yolanda passed just to the north of us, we had high winds & rain for 5 hours, anything remotely loose or weak no longer exists.
Yes Asustor is fairly new, it's the networking arm of Asus. I considered both Synology & Qnap but as a newbie to networking thought the Asustor would be easier for me to work with. Also the cost was appealing, I had it loaded with 4 x 3TB Barracuda NAS drives & set up in raid 5 for around P63K (in the UK). There is quite a good review on CNET & they also compare all 3 brands.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: rhizom3 on Nov 15, 2013 at 11:15 AM
It's good to hear that you and your family are OK.

Yes, I've read good reviews about 302T as well. Let me know how XBMC performs in the field once you've set it up.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM
It's good to hear that you and your family are OK.

Yes, I've read good reviews about 302T as well. Let me know how XBMC performs in the field once you've set it up.

Thanks!

Thanks for the concern rhizom3.
Once I've got everything set up I update you.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Nov 15, 2013 at 02:25 PM
OBR mabuti naman at nakaligtas kayo ng pamilya mo... ;) :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Nov 15, 2013 at 04:29 PM
Obr good to hear that you and your family are doing ok. Be safe . Its always fun in the Philippines .

Byw nice looking power stations you got there.

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 15, 2013 at 08:32 PM
OBR mabuti naman at nakaligtas kayo ng pamilya mo... ;) :)

JH - Thanks very much for your concern, I class myself as fortunate.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 15, 2013 at 08:39 PM
Obr good to hear that you and your family are doing ok. Be safe . Its always fun in the Philippines .

Byw nice looking power stations you got there.

Hi Ricky, thanks for the concern, it could have been so much worse.
I was quoted P69K less 25% for cash + freight for 5KVA Stac's. I got these at Belmont Depot 7.5KVA P21.5K & 10KVA P24.5 less 5% for cash + free delivery - no contest.
I got them oversize to allow for future development  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Nov 15, 2013 at 09:44 PM
Nice decision bro. Nicely priced items are sure hard to resist.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Nov 15, 2013 at 09:53 PM
Hi Ricky, thanks for the concern, it could have been so much worse.
I was quoted P69K less 25% for cash + freight for 5KVA Stac's. I got these at Belmont Depot 7.5KVA P21.5K & 10KVA P24.5 less 5% for cash + free delivery - no contest.
I got them oversize to allow for future development  ;D ;D ;D

Sir where is Belmont Depot?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Weng! on Nov 16, 2013 at 01:08 AM
Hi Ricky, thanks for the concern, it could have been so much worse.
I was quoted P69K less 25% for cash + freight for 5KVA Stac's. I got these at Belmont Depot 7.5KVA P21.5K & 10KVA P24.5 less 5% for cash + free delivery - no contest.
I got them oversize to allow for future development  ;D ;D ;D

wow, the price of the 5kva STAC is more or less the same as the price of a 5kva generator set. i'm waiting for belmont's 10kva generator set to arrive, i need it badly at home.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 16, 2013 at 01:03 PM
Sir where is Belmont Depot?

Hi Superman - M.C. Briones St., Hi-Way, Mandaue City.
They have 2 outlets side by side Hardware on left Tools on right. These larger AVR's are in the tool outlet.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 16, 2013 at 01:22 PM
Nice decision bro. Nicely priced items are sure hard to resist.

Thanks Ricky, my thinking was that although Japanese AVR's are good quality they are also very expensive. These are Chinese & to be honest there is not a lot in them to go wrong. When you work it out at 5KVA I would need 3 costing P155K after discount, my 2 Northstars cost P43,700  so I could replace either one 6 times & still be in pocket.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 16, 2013 at 01:28 PM
Sir where is Belmont Depot?

Northstar also do a 5KVA, same set up with 2 transformers but front to back rather than vertically mounted (would fit at the bottom of a rack, weight 25Kg) costing just under P16K.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 16, 2013 at 01:33 PM
wow, the price of the 5kva STAC is more or less the same as the price of a 5kva generator set. i'm waiting for belmont's 10kva generator set to arrive, i need it badly at home.
I'm begining to think along the lines of a small generator just to run a few lights & the fridge freezer. Losing power for 3 days was a bit of a wake up call.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Weng! on Nov 17, 2013 at 10:08 AM
I'm begining to think along the lines of a small generator just to run a few lights & the fridge freezer. Losing power for 3 days was a bit of a wake up call.


since you now reside in cebu, that is not a bad idea. we always have power failures here unlike the UK that you seldom experience it.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 17, 2013 at 10:41 AM
since you now reside in cebu, that is not a bad idea. we always have power failures here unlike the UK that you seldom experience it.

You're correct there, I can only ever remember 1 power cut (a transformer blew up) & 1 scheduled shut down to replace equipment. It's only since I've been here that I've begun to appreciate the services that I took for granted in the UK. Having been here for 7 months I've got my Filipino head on so I'm beginning not to worry too much about things. As we will have a very large fridge/freezer I don't like the idea of losing a lot of moneys worth of food, less cash for upgrades  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 25, 2013 at 06:55 PM
Good news, my residents visa has been approved & the shippers have been instructed to send my container. Now 7 - 9 weeks to find out if my gears survived the trip.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Nov 25, 2013 at 06:59 PM
Good to hear that.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: louie1 on Nov 25, 2013 at 07:41 PM
Latest arrivals

7.5 & 10 KVA AVR's
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Avrs002_zps98f802fc.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Avrs002_zps98f802fc.jpg.html)

7.5 KVA
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Avrs004_zpsaa96dd7a.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Avrs004_zpsaa96dd7a.jpg.html)

10 KVA
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Avrs005_zps658a6d21.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Avrs005_zps658a6d21.jpg.html)

Congratulations sir OBR..very nice power plant O0 these will make sure you'll have a very stable power source for your gears!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Nov 25, 2013 at 08:38 PM
Latest arrivals

7.5 & 10 KVA AVR's
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Avrs002_zps98f802fc.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Avrs002_zps98f802fc.jpg.html)

7.5 KVA
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Avrs004_zpsaa96dd7a.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Avrs004_zpsaa96dd7a.jpg.html)

10 KVA
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Avrs005_zps658a6d21.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Avrs005_zps658a6d21.jpg.html)

2 words - "Personal Substation"

Nuff said

I can't wait to see your shipment of 'stuff' from the UK.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 26, 2013 at 09:46 AM
Good to hear that.
Thanks Gino - I am much relieved
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 26, 2013 at 09:56 AM
Congratulations sir OBR..very nice power plant O0 these will make sure you'll have a very stable power source for your gears!

Thanks Louie, That's what I'm hoping for, we have a foundry close by & get many fluctuations. When we move into the new house we'll be 2Km further away so I'm hoping the problem will not be as severe. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 26, 2013 at 10:02 AM
2 words - "Personal Substation"

Nuff said

I can't wait to see your shipment of 'stuff' from the UK.

Thanks Mikeer, coupled with the Richard Gray's I'm hoping to have a reasonable power supply.
I also can't wait to see my shipment, after 8 months I've got a job to remember what it all looks like  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 26, 2013 at 10:12 AM
Great News indeed!!!
Welcome to the Philippines!!!
Hahaha ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 26, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Great News indeed!!!
Welcome to the Philippines!!!
Hahaha ;D

Thanks Louie, I now feel as if I belong.  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Photonyo on Nov 26, 2013 at 12:15 PM
cant wait to see the finished theater :) im sure excited na kayo :)
Congrats sir.. antabayanan ko tong page nyo
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 28, 2013 at 09:03 AM
cant wait to see the finished theater :) im sure excited na kayo :)
Congrats sir.. antabayanan ko tong page nyo

Thanks Photonyo, I can't wait to get started on the build  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Nov 28, 2013 at 10:07 AM
Binabati kita OBR!

(http://www.diybeer.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/beer_toast.jpg)

Let's drink to that!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 28, 2013 at 07:37 PM
Binabati kita OBR!

(http://www.diybeer.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/beer_toast.jpg)

Let's drink to that!

Hi JH, in the UK we say cheers. I have to admit I have been having a little celebration. Thank you for the greeting.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Nov 28, 2013 at 11:05 PM
Hi JH, in the UK we say cheers. I have to admit I have been having a little celebration. Thank you for the greeting.

In Philippines "TAGAY NA!"  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 30, 2013 at 03:11 PM
In Philippines "TAGAY NA!"  ;D

Thanks JH for the short lesson in Tagalog  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 03, 2013 at 09:52 AM
Hahaha! ;D
Yeah I just realized too that the thread is only 8 pages ^-^
The acoustic treatment behind the fabric would help with room response and sound proofing...
You might want to consider also the material being used by "Erwin Allen" with his acoustic panels because it is health and eco friendly unlike rockwool and fiberglass... I think it is called Cellulose Fiber Insulator

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,179504.msg1906997.html#msg1906997 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,179504.msg1906997.html#msg1906997)

Hi Louie,
Thanks for putting me on to Erwin, I've been in contact & we shall be doing business. As I'll be needing around 56 acoustic panels I'll be hanging them on the walls for the time being & when I'm confident I've got it right I'll consider an upgrade to make the room prettier & more WAF  ;D
BTW I did mention you in dispatches.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: stevesonk on Dec 03, 2013 at 11:36 AM
In Philippines "TAGAY NA!"  ;D
in Lipa City,we say, "Inum Na!,Magtagal na sa Baso,Wag Lang sa S*s*    ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 24, 2013 at 10:20 PM
A very merry Xmas to you guys, may you & your familys have a great one.
All the very best to each & every one of you.
George
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Dec 24, 2013 at 10:33 PM
Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 30, 2013 at 06:31 PM
Hi all, you & your family's have a great New Year, may it be very prosperous.
I will be a little quiet for a while as we lost our phone & internet on Dec 11th. Globe have a systems problem in our area & cannot track down the cause so no ETA for repair. I've bought a Tattoo mobile device but it's useless, so slow I can only access the internet sporadically.
I have a couple update photos which I'll try & post in the next couple of days.
Enjoy the celebrations guys.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 22, 2014 at 01:00 PM
Hi All,

I'm back, Globe have finally sorted out my internet problem so now I have a lot of catching up to do so bear with me. I have a few photo updates which I will do later.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Jan 22, 2014 at 01:12 PM
Welcome back!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2014 at 09:04 AM
Welcome back!

Thanks JH
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2014 at 09:15 AM
Having had no phone or internet has allowed be to spend quite a bit of time at the site. The 2nd floor concrete has been poured & the underfloor supports will be removed next week I'll have some better pictures of the HT room. Until then a couple of photo's I took on Jan 15th.

(https://i.imgur.com/SIVUwge.jpg)




(https://i.imgur.com/MJiwARJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2014 at 09:22 AM
My belated Xmas present to me, arrived Jan16th - Cambridge Audio 851E & 851W, still another 851W to come.

(https://i.imgur.com/sNFP5Qy.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jan 25, 2014 at 10:14 AM
Coming along nicely. It must be exciting.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Jan 25, 2014 at 10:33 AM
yummy! congrats!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2014 at 11:08 AM
Coming along nicely. It must be exciting.
Thanks Gino,
The build is accelerating now but we're still a month behind. They've started on the lower ground floor roof & will probably start inside the main section of the house week after next. The HT room will be the 1st to be completed so I can start work.
I've decided to cover the walls in fabric but not at this time. Once I'm happy with the room acoustics I'll do a room upgrade. Selecting colours is my main headache, I will be having acoustic panels in the living room so trying to decide the wall colours so I can select the panel fabric then I can get all the panels made at the same time.
Yes getting excited, just heard my container arrives in Cebu on Feb 20th. I may have to break out some gear   ;D , Ive been without for 10 months now
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2014 at 11:11 AM
yummy! congrats!

Thanks JH, I can't wait to get the other amp so I can get them burnt in.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Photonyo on Jan 25, 2014 at 11:18 AM
Might as well beef up your security at home with the kind of gear your installing :)
Congrats sir.. excited for you :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jan 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM
"The HT room will be the 1st to be completed " <----Excellent priorities.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 25, 2014 at 11:53 AM
"The HT room will be the 1st to be completed " <----Excellent priorities.

That was also my priority when I renovated the house. Whatever was left was for the guest and kids room. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/10.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jjohnc on Jan 25, 2014 at 12:20 PM
Congrats Sir :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2014 at 03:51 PM
Might as well beef up your security at home with the kind of gear your installing :)
Congrats sir.. excited for you :)

Thanks Photonyo,
As its a new house build I'm looking at CCTV systems. I already have electronic door locks coming from the UK but saw a fingerprint activated one the other day so may try that. At the end of the day the determined professional thief will always get in but make it hard & it deters the casual one.
BTW the enthusiasm on this forum never ceases to amaze me.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 25, 2014 at 04:02 PM
Welcome back sir OBR...
Great developments you have there ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2014 at 04:23 PM
"The HT room will be the 1st to be completed " <----Excellent priorities.

Your quite right Gino as a new build there are a few things I can dictate  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 25, 2014 at 04:26 PM
congrats.... the HT rooms seems big......
cant wait to see for the final product
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2014 at 04:27 PM
That was also my priority when I renovated the house. Whatever was left was for the guest and kids room. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/10.gif)

Hi Doc,
Long time no hear. Fortunately only me & the wife at the moment so I have a free rein >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2014 at 04:29 PM
Congrats Sir :)

Thanks JJ
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2014 at 04:35 PM
Welcome back sir OBR...
Great developments you have there ;)

Thanks Louie,
Good to be back.
I'm pleased with the way things are going, the guys will be able to work on the ground floor if it rains - don't want to lose any more time.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2014 at 04:52 PM
congrats.... the HT rooms seems big......
cant wait to see for the final product

Thanks Raider,
The internal room size is 7.5M x 5.5M x 2.9M & after the instal of the dry wall will be 7.2m x 5.2M x 2.73M.
I will make sure I have the acoustics right before I do the final wall finishing but it should look OK. I have a couple of computer renderings which I will post.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 25, 2014 at 05:05 PM
I would really love to see your HT in person in OBR... :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2014 at 05:51 PM
I would really love to see your HT in person in OBR... :)

Not a problem Louie. I'm only 20 minutes from the airport so when you're in Cebu feel free. I will have 2 spare bedrooms.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 26, 2014 at 09:37 AM
With only the wifey to worry about....the possibilities are endless. Let's add your HT to Cebu's must go places. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 26, 2014 at 09:44 AM
Not a problem Louie. I'm only 20 minutes from the airport so when you're in Cebu feel free. I will have 2 spare bedrooms.

With only the wifey to worry about....the possibilities are endless. Let's add your HT to Cebu's must go places. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)

Great!!!
Doc Mel let's schedule...
We can share a room, don't worry I'm harmless ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 26, 2014 at 11:24 AM
Great!!!
Doc Mel let's schedule...
We can share a room, don't worry I'm harmless ;D

Bwahaha! Brader Louie, 2 rooms are available and you really want to share in one? Hmmmm....(http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/5.gif)

"Sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and chains excite me...." (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 26, 2014 at 12:23 PM
With only the wifey to worry about....the possibilities are endless. Let's add your HT to Cebu's must go places. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)

Hi Doc, I did have only wifey to worry about but she brought a puppy home the other day, 8 weeks old & wants endless attention. Guess who's turned into a baby sitter ?
I must admit I have been thinking about turning 1 of the rooms into a listening room (music)  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 26, 2014 at 12:24 PM
Great!!!
Doc Mel let's schedule...
We can share a room, don't worry I'm harmless ;D

The house completion is now late April or early May so anytime after that.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 26, 2014 at 12:27 PM
Bwahaha! Brader Louie, 2 rooms are available and you really want to share in one? Hmmmm....(http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/5.gif)

"Sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and chains excite me...." (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)

This HT lark is getting to be a right turn on   >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 26, 2014 at 12:41 PM
Hi Doc, I did have only wifey to worry about but she brought a puppy home the other day, 8 weeks old & wants endless attention. Guess who's turned into a baby sitter ?
I must admit I have been thinking about turning 1 of the rooms into a listening room (music)  ;D ;D ;D

Seems like you have a lot of time to baby sit for now.  Priorities will change once your HT is up and running.  :)

The hotel completion is now late April or early May so anytime after that.

Let's bring in the gang! J/k (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/67.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 26, 2014 at 12:51 PM
A couple of computer renders of the HT room. My architect forgot the colours so he guessed but not very well.
The carpet will be a deep red, front wall & ceiling black & the remaining walls ? I'm leaning towards deep purple at the moment but haven't seen anything I like in the colour chart I have. The acoustic panels will be black fabric with a view to having fabric covered walls when I am happy with the acoustic treatment. The acoustic panels will then be hidden behind the fabric, I may also put in some wood columns to enhance the decor.
The pictures are a bit dark but that's all I have to work with at the moment.

Towards the front

(https://i.imgur.com/Kyyojzb.jpg)

Towards the rear

(https://i.imgur.com/BxNwDOy.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 26, 2014 at 01:16 PM
Seems like you have a lot of time to baby sit for now.  Priorities will change once your HT is up and running.  :)

Let's bring in the gang! J/k (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/67.gif)

You're right there Doc, as soon as I can start working on the HT room wifey will be the puppy sitter & on completion I can see the helper (wife's sister) substituting.
I know the house is big (so they tell me) but hotel proportions ......................... ah well WTF
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jan 26, 2014 at 02:30 PM
Black is good for fighting screen reflection. But also consider the substrate or material for their anti reflective characteristics. I few fellows here found out the hard way that their ceilings were distracting. Ouch.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 26, 2014 at 02:36 PM
Black is good for fighting screen reflection. But also consider the substrate or material for their anti reflective characteristics. I few fellows here found out the hard way that their ceilings were distracting. Ouch.

Thanks for the warning Gino, The ceiling will be Gypsum board & will use matte black, if I have any problems that will be the 1st upgrade - black fabric.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Jan 26, 2014 at 06:29 PM
when is the expected date of completion? I'm excited to see this HT completed!  :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 26, 2014 at 10:36 PM
when is the expected date of completion? I'm excited to see this HT completed!  :D

Hi DTNS, I'm hoping to have the HT room completed around the same time as the house which now looks to be around end of April beginning of May.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 27, 2014 at 02:30 PM
The 3rd Richard Gray 400 Pro has arrived, I may need another one but will take some current readings when everything is up & running before I decide.
1st shipment of Green Glue Compound & Sealant arrived last week from sir Erwin. 2 more shipments plus the acoustic panels & base traps & we'll be good  to  go.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Jan 27, 2014 at 05:34 PM
Not a problem Louie. I'm only 20 minutes from the airport so when you're in Cebu feel free. I will have 2 spare bedrooms.
pwede din ba na makasilip sa ht room mo kapag nagawi ulit ako ng cebu?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 28, 2014 at 04:44 PM
pwede din ba na makasilip sa ht room mo kapag nagawi ulit ako ng cebu?

Hi sovrain, had to wait until the wife translated for me. When the house build is finished I will sit down & try & learn the language.
You're welcome to visit when you are in Cebu.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 28, 2014 at 06:14 PM
For you guys who want to know what the rest of the house will look like a couple of computer renderings.

HT room is on right hand side & runs the whole depth of the house.

(https://i.imgur.com/weIhJI2.jpg)

Rear view showing lower ground floor, games room (pool & darts to start with), my workshop & laundry room.

(https://i.imgur.com/jaFt6CM.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Jan 28, 2014 at 06:53 PM
Really nice one! Room for pdvd visitors?  >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 28, 2014 at 10:17 PM
Really nice one! Room for pdvd visitors?  >:D

Hi JH, I will have 2 spare bedrooms & always room for Mr KEF.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 29, 2014 at 10:32 AM
Really nice one! Room for pdvd visitors?  >:D

I think a tent will be provided In the lawn for visitors. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: mykel18 on Jan 29, 2014 at 10:49 AM
Rear view showing lower ground floor, games room (pool & darts to start with), my workshop & laundry room.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/rearleftrevisedscheme_zpsa486e854.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/rearleftrevisedscheme_zpsa486e854.jpg.html)

Lovely house! I liked the design of having a lower ground floor/basement and I still wanted one as my audio den.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Jan 29, 2014 at 11:28 AM
Hi sovrain, had to wait until the wife translated for me. When the house build is finished I will sit down & try & learn the language.
You're welcome to visit when you are in Cebu.
ayos....been there for 3 times na, so hindi na ako masyadong interested na pumunta ulit, but now, may reason na ulit akong mag attend ng convention or seminar jan sa cebu, para lang masilip your ht room, he he....abang na lang ako ng mga invitations for cebu...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Jan 29, 2014 at 12:42 PM
For you guys who want to know what the rest of the house will look like a couple of computer renderings.

HT room is on right hand side & runs the whole depth of the house.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/frontrevisedscheme_zps9898ddc8.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/frontrevisedscheme_zps9898ddc8.jpg.html)

Rear view showing lower ground floor, games room (pool & darts to start with), my workshop & laundry room.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/rearleftrevisedscheme_zpsa486e854.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/rearleftrevisedscheme_zpsa486e854.jpg.html)

wow! nice house. :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 29, 2014 at 01:54 PM
Wow! Very very nice and so so relaxing! Congrats! You even have a dedicated laundry room.  ;D You wife must really really love you that much.  ;) This really is a must see location in Cebu.

Make sure you use thick gypsum boards for ceiling. Or maybe MDF is another very good option. There are laminated MDFs here in Manila.

Black is good for fighting screen reflection. But also consider the substrate or material for their anti reflective characteristics. I few fellows here found out the hard way that their ceilings were distracting. Ouch.

Yeah. Mine is. I have dark brown fabric for walls and decided to use gray cloth for covering the ceiling treatment.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 29, 2014 at 05:30 PM
I think a tent will be provided In the lawn for visitors. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)

Anything is possible Doc   >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 29, 2014 at 05:41 PM
Lovely house! I liked the design of having a lower ground floor/basement and I still wanted one as my audio den.

Hi mykel,Seemed the best thing to do as there is a 3 M drop front to back. Thought of having the HT room on the lower ground but decided on ground floor for security reasons. Hope you get your room eventually.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 29, 2014 at 05:44 PM
wow! nice house. :)

Thanks Nolax
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 29, 2014 at 05:49 PM
ayos....been there for 3 times na, so hindi na ako masyadong interested na pumunta ulit, but now, may reason na ulit akong mag attend ng convention or seminar jan sa cebu, para lang masilip your ht room, he he....abang na lang ako ng mga invitations for cebu...

I will post when the HT room & audio area is ready for visitors.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Jan 29, 2014 at 05:52 PM
I will post when the HT room & audio area is ready for visitors.
looking forward  8)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 29, 2014 at 06:09 PM
Wow! Very very nice and so so relaxing! Congrats! You even have a dedicated laundry room.  ;D You wife must really really love you that much.  ;) This really is a must see location in Cebu.

Make sure you use thick gypsum boards for ceiling. Or maybe MDF is another very good option. There are laminated MDFs here in Manila.

Yeah. Mine is. I have dark brown fabric for walls and decided to use gray cloth for covering the ceiling treatment.

Thanks Nelson, looking forward to the relaxing part. I think the helper will be the one appreciating the laundry room  ;D
Visitors will be welcome.
Walls & ceiling will be 2" gap, 4" stud with fiberglass or Rockwool insulation covered with marine plywood, Green Glue then Gypsum board. The ceiling is 150mm thick & the walls 150mm blocks + 25mm plaster so plenty of mass.
I really want to cover the walls in fabric but I've decided to just paint for the time being till I am happy with the acoustic treatment then fabric covering will be the 1st early upgrade. It may also include columns to enhance the decor, maybe surrounds inside the columns ? At this moment in time the Audio & video is more important then the decor, the one thing it's not going to be is a $100,000 HT room.  :'(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 15, 2014 at 02:38 PM
Obr, we are now incorporating the karaoke part in ht esp if the room is well treated. Aside from containing the happiness aka noise inside the room, it also helps improve the voice quality hehe. Also karaoke in the big screen is awesome same as in gaming experience hehe.

Ricky, I have an admission to make, At Xmas I bought a Karaoke mixer amp, speakers & a cheap DVD player (already had a 32" Samsung free with our fridge/freezer). We had the wife's family over from Mindanao so they had a whale of a time. When the house is built it will be the BBQ sound system.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Feb 15, 2014 at 02:56 PM
Now you are truly Pinoy.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 15, 2014 at 03:23 PM
Now you are truly Pinoy.

Thanks Gino, the wife's just shouted 'you're not a true Pinoy yet'. No pleasing some women  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 15, 2014 at 03:42 PM
Latest piccies of the HT room taken on Feb 11th

Front wall - left hand side

(https://i.imgur.com/r8R75rM.jpg)

Front wall - right hand side

(https://i.imgur.com/bFZX6jz.jpg)

Right hand wall

(https://i.imgur.com/SZAuXmN.jpg)

View to the rear (outside wall panels to be installed)

(https://i.imgur.com/DD2KEKJ.jpg)

My architect checking a few things

(https://i.imgur.com/9BjmH7T.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Feb 15, 2014 at 05:03 PM
Looking good. Looks like the shape is audio correct. This is an exciting build. Can't wait to see how the power and audio cables will be laid out.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 15, 2014 at 05:26 PM
Looking good. Looks like the shape is audio correct. This is an exciting build. Can't wait to see how the power and audio cables will be laid out.

Hi Gino,
Just discussing the possibilities with my electrician now. Behind the left hand wall will be a control room for service entrance power, 4 panel boards, 2 AVR's, 3 surge suppressors & CCTV.
Getting a little excited myself as I can at last see an end to the project.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 15, 2014 at 07:34 PM
looking forward to your updates on this project :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Feb 15, 2014 at 09:37 PM
where is the dancing pole?  >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Feb 16, 2014 at 07:17 AM
^ ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Feb 16, 2014 at 08:16 AM
where's the disco ball and the red lights?  >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Feb 16, 2014 at 09:31 AM
Dagdagan na rin ng mini bar >:D >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Weng! on Feb 16, 2014 at 10:35 AM
OBR,

your HT room is now taking shape. will be watching for updates everyday :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 17, 2014 at 02:37 PM
looking forward to your updates on this project :)

Thank you ma'am
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 17, 2014 at 02:39 PM
where is the dancing pole?  >:D

I've got a separate room for that  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 17, 2014 at 02:42 PM
where's the disco ball and the red lights?  >:D

The way you guys are going the 1st upgrade will be one of the bedrooms - an entertainment room  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 17, 2014 at 03:49 PM
Dagdagan na rin ng mini bar >:D >:D

I don't know about a mini bar sovrain, for me it would have to be a maxi bar  >:D but I'll settle for the big fridge in the next room. ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 17, 2014 at 03:57 PM
OBR,

your HT room is now taking shape. will be watching for updates everyday :)

Yes things are happening quickly now & I'm spending a lot more time on site. As soon as we pour the HT room floor the insulated panels will be fitted to the front & then we can start the HT build proper.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 17, 2014 at 07:39 PM
Here's some better photo's taken after we did a bit of clearing up yesterday.

Left hand side looking at front wall

(https://i.imgur.com/bein7ph.jpg)

Right hand side looking at front wall

(https://i.imgur.com/nqrinvf.jpg)

Looking into the room from outside

(https://i.imgur.com/JH0cqdv.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 20, 2014 at 03:23 PM
Ready for the floor reinforcing, one of my electricians beavering away on the front wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/ANidpBN.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: John E. on Feb 21, 2014 at 05:26 PM
looking good sir! goodluck sa new HT!

ako finishing na kaso ang dami pa rin kailangan bilin! araw araw may gastos!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 21, 2014 at 06:23 PM
looking good sir! goodluck sa new HT!

ako finishing na kaso ang dami pa rin kailangan bilin! araw araw may gastos!

Thanks John, I am happy with the progress. The HT room is a separate project to the house so paying for that on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 24, 2014 at 08:52 AM
Pouring of the floor being held up through late delivery of the ground rod.

(https://i.imgur.com/mUmtRun.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Weng! on Feb 24, 2014 at 09:31 AM
Pouring of the floor being held up through late delivery of the ground rod.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Feb232014008_zps71691c11.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Feb232014008_zps71691c11.jpg.html)

way to go george. i can imagine now your big plasma tv on that wall :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: toys4geeks on Feb 24, 2014 at 10:23 AM
hi
Got curious, are those cable outlet provisions in the middle (1 at the side height, 3 at the center, mid height?)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 25, 2014 at 10:12 PM
hi
Got curious, are those cable outlet provisions in the middle (1 at the side height, 3 at the center, mid height?)

Hi toys4geeks,
They sure look like outlet provisions from a distance, the quick answer is no. We still have some of the wooden scaffolding members protruding through the walls. The other side of the front wall still has scaffolding being used by the guys fabricating the lower ground floor roof.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 25, 2014 at 10:21 PM
way to go george. i can imagine now your big plasma tv on that wall :)

Hi Weng,
I'm starting to imagine all sorts of things now especially as my container arrived in port this evening. We think it may be released on Friday so busy busy over the weekend. The ground rod arrives tomorrow so the floor should be poured by the end of work tomorrow night. We'll then be able to start on the stud wall next week.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 27, 2014 at 08:07 PM
Ht room floor floated yesterday. we start on the stud wall at the end of next week.

(https://i.imgur.com/TGl2MeZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 04, 2014 at 07:27 PM
The gears have landed, my container arrived at 8:30 last night, they couldn't get it into the yard so had to be unloaded in the road. Finally got everything checked & stored at 2 AM, beat the rain by 15 minutes. Had to leave the carpet outside so it got a little wet but all the important stuff is OK  ;D. Managed to take a couple of photos so I'll post tomorrow. I've been sorting all day looking for the kit I need need for the HT room so pooped & off to bed soon.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Photonyo on Mar 04, 2014 at 07:40 PM
was about to message you for updates..
Your gears on the side of the road must have been a sight to see :) thats good everythings ok
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Mar 04, 2014 at 07:42 PM
That is great news.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 08, 2014 at 11:29 AM
was about to message you for updates..
Your gears on the side of the road must have been a sight to see :) thats good everythings ok

Thanks Photonyo, you don't realise how much gear you have until you have to pack & unpack it, there was quite a big pile. Now my gears are here just doing some final dimensional checks before starting the HT room build.  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 08, 2014 at 11:32 AM
That is great news.
Thanks Gino, I was a bit worried about my subwoofer, it should have been crated but when we opened the only crate in the container it had both screens & my large speakers but no sub. Found it under a pile of boxes undamaged so a big sigh of relief.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 08, 2014 at 12:11 PM
Couldn't take any photo's of the gears in 1 pile as we were rushing to beat the rain You'll have to wait until I unpack everything when the HT room is complete, until then a couple of tasters.

You can just see the 50" screen between the Panny & the Performance 6's, the subwoofer is hiding under the HT seat on the left hand side.

(https://i.imgur.com/dR5uKlb.jpg)

Opened the box to make sure the beast was OK & the wife had to give it a cuddle.

(https://i.imgur.com/77PKCoR.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Mar 08, 2014 at 12:14 PM
WOW!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 08, 2014 at 01:00 PM
WOW!

BIG isn't it JH, it's almost 4 feet high.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Mar 09, 2014 at 06:22 AM
Couldn't take any photo's of the gears in 1 pile as we were rushing to beat the rain You'll have to wait until I unpack everything when the HT room is complete, until then a couple of tasters.

You can just see the 50" screen between the Panny & the Performance 6's, the subwoofer is hiding under the HT seat on the left hand side.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/March32014005_zps4a93f875.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/March32014005_zps4a93f875.jpg.html)

Opened the box to make sure the beast was OK & the wife had to give it a cuddle.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Thebigscreen_zps2e906f93.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Thebigscreen_zps2e906f93.jpg.html)   

Congrats OBR!
Glad your gears already arrived.  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 09, 2014 at 06:59 AM
Bro you have a beautiful wife, nice gears too :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Mar 09, 2014 at 08:06 AM
Bro you have a beautiful wife, nice gears too :)

jamy, behave! ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: stilljey on Mar 09, 2014 at 08:52 AM
BIG isn't it JH, it's almost 4 feet high.   ;D ;D ;D

congrats sir your gears landed peacefully, malaki nga, ilang inches?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Mar 09, 2014 at 09:02 AM
congrats sir your gears landed peacefully, malaki nga, ilang inches?

it's 85 inches  :o
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 09, 2014 at 09:22 AM

Congrats OBR!
Glad your gears already arrived.  :)
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Thanks Nolax
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 09, 2014 at 09:24 AM
Bro you have a beautiful wife, nice gears too :)

Thanks Jammy, I think so too  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 09, 2014 at 09:29 AM
congrats sir your gears landed peacefully, malaki nga, ilang inches?

Thanks stilljey, as DTNS says 85" diagonal but physical size 2015 mm wide, 1195 mm high & 99 mm deep & weighs in at almost 120 KG.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Mar 09, 2014 at 09:37 AM
Congrats brader...and the way it looks, very supportive si wifey :)  8)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 09, 2014 at 10:28 AM
Congrats brader...and the way it looks, very supportive si wifey :)  8)

Yes sovrain very supportive, I think she's looking forward to having the 50" Pioneer for her 'soap operas'  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Mar 09, 2014 at 11:31 AM
Yes sovrain very supportive, I think she's looking forward to having the 50" Pioneer for her 'soap operas'  :)
naaasar ako sa mga soap operas na yan, gusto ng wifey sa malaking tv manood, di tuloy ako makapag audio sa gabi, ha ha ha...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 09, 2014 at 11:53 AM
naaasar ako sa mga soap operas na yan, gusto ng wifey sa malaking tv manood, di tuloy ako makapag audio sa gabi, ha ha ha...

Sovrain, I do not like soap operas either & the TV has no speakers so the sound will be routed though the speakers in the stereo system. That means I will be in the same position as you, wifey watching TV no audio enjoyment but I am fortunate that I will have an HT room to disappear to  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Mar 09, 2014 at 11:58 AM
Sovrain, I do not like soap operas either & the TV has no speakers so the sound will be routed though the speakers in the stereo system. That means I will be in the same position as you, wifey watching TV no audio enjoyment but I am fortunate that I will have an HT room to disappear to  ;D ;D ;D
yun ang diprensya, you got an HT room, while my option is to upgrade my tv, para yung luma ang ilagay ko sa kwarto, to change the crt tv ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 09, 2014 at 12:35 PM
yun ang diprensya, you got an HT room, while my option is to upgrade my tv, para yung luma ang ilagay ko sa kwarto, to change the crt tv ;D

Hope you get your upgrade soon.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Mar 09, 2014 at 01:04 PM
Exciting times Oldboyracer. I'm sure everybody is excited.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 09, 2014 at 05:54 PM
Exciting times Oldboyracer. I'm sure everybody is excited.

Yes Gino, I can't wait to get started in the HT room. I've slept better since my gears arrived so I think I must have been worrying a little after being so long without them.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 23, 2014 at 05:05 PM
Control room, This will be the home for the 2 AVR's. The 2 small power boards will each be fed from an AVR, 1 for the HT room & the other for the Stereo system.

(https://i.imgur.com/Xd9NAQt.jpg)

Most of the materials have arrived for the HT room. The carpet is hiding under the pink floor covering.

 (https://i.imgur.com/67OsYi6.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Mar 23, 2014 at 05:14 PM
Looking very good.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ndotcom on Mar 23, 2014 at 09:40 PM
Wow looks like industrial installation sir. Looking forward for the final build.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 24, 2014 at 08:22 AM
Yes sovrain very supportive, I think she's looking forward to having the 50" Pioneer for her 'soap operas'  :)

How does a soap opera look like with the Soap Opera Effect on in your TV?  (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/39.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 24, 2014 at 09:22 AM
Looking very good.

Yes Gino, after months of not doing very much looking forward to starting the build maybe towards the end of the week. The rear wall of the HT room will be installed in the next few days, not sure which day, then we can start. We will manufacture a mount for the screen on site & install that before starting on the stud wall.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 24, 2014 at 09:26 AM
Wow looks like industrial installation sir. Looking forward for the final build.

It feels a bit like it at the moment ndotcom. All will be OK when we clear the room for the start of the build.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 24, 2014 at 09:28 AM
How does a soap opera look like with the Soap Opera Effect on in your TV?  (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/39.gif)

Hi Doc, haven't got a clue, when the soaps are on I'm nowhere in sight.  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 27, 2014 at 03:17 PM
Hi guys, I've been quiet for while, Internet problems thanks to Globe, an exotic virus thanks to the wife's sisters family & a problem with the house. The front & left hand walls were to have been 6" insulated panels, this included the rear wall of the HT but the manufacturer decided he could not supply. Although making 4" panels OK the 6" ones were breaking up as they came out of the mould. After careful deliberation we decided to fabricate our own, 4" CHB, plaster skim coat, 1.5" polystyrene sheet & 1" plaster coat on the outside. This enabled us to put in the HT rear wall.

April 8th.

(https://i.imgur.com/C4JtziF.jpg)

April 24th AM - rear wall perimeter framing.

(https://i.imgur.com/odHt7AM.jpg)

April 24th PM - left hand wall vertical framing.

(https://i.imgur.com/MNWEoSt.jpg)

April 25th - rear wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/LDnyzqq.jpg)

April 25th - front wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/2Y298O7.jpg)

I will take more photos later & post tonight.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Photonyo on Apr 28, 2014 at 02:49 PM
very nice :)... what do you plan on your ceiling?
in my HT, my ceiling is gypsum board with cove lighting and it vibrates a lot in heavy bass scenes.

 just something to think about :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: raiden213 on Apr 28, 2014 at 02:53 PM
Nice progress oldboyracer. That room looks definitely huge considering there are still so much clutter inside the area. I am looking forward for the finished project of yours whenever that may be.

On a different note, I am just waiting to receive the final plan from my engineer so I can start work on my own HT room as well. Its crazy that I bought a new avr upgrade even before I got started on my project. I got the marantz sr7007 on a great sale so I wasn't able to resist the temptation. Now, I need to dispose my current pioneer vsx1122 because I will not have any use for it.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 29, 2014 at 02:10 PM
very nice :)... what do you plan on your ceiling?
in my HT, my ceiling is gypsum board with cove lighting and it vibrates a lot in heavy bass scenes.

 just something to think about :)

Hi Photonyo, thanks for the like. Ceiling will be 1 layer marine ply & 1 layer Gypsum board. All framing members will have frame sealer & Green Glue Compound will be applied between ply & Gypsum. Walls will be the same but 2 layers of gypsum board. There will be a 15" x 8" soffit all round which will house eyeball LED lighting also a horizontal extension with an uplift at the outer end to house LED rope lights. Hopefully I will not have the same problems as you, I have impressed upon my architect that we cannot leave anything open to vibration.
Thanks for the thought.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 29, 2014 at 02:28 PM
Nice progress oldboyracer. That room looks definitely huge considering there are still so much clutter inside the area. I am looking forward for the finished project of yours whenever that may be.

On a different note, I am just waiting to receive the final plan from my engineer so I can start work on my own HT room as well. Its crazy that I bought a new avr upgrade even before I got started on my project. I got the marantz sr7007 on a great sale so I wasn't able to resist the temptation. Now, I need to dispose my current pioneer vsx1122 because I will not have any use for it.

I was thinking the same thing myself raiden, had a look this morning & thought this is a big room, still, lots of room for modifications   >:D. I shall be uploading a photo from yesterday shortly the back wall is now complete with the horizontal frame members. Unfortunately the guys that are doing the HT room are also fabricating the outer walls so it's been dormant for 2 days. They're back on the job today & I'm impressed with the workmanship. The way things are going it shouldn't take too long, as soon as the framing is complete I will do all the cabling & then the ply & Gypsum board can be installed.
I don't think it's crazy at all, you had an opportunity to buy a great piece of kit & pulled the trigger, there's no problem in that so it's a big congrats on your upgrade. Hope your HT room turns out OK, if you need any information feel free to ask. As it's my first HT build I'll only find out what I did wrong when it's too late but hopefully all my research will pay dividends.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 29, 2014 at 05:23 PM
HT rear wall framing complete, taken yesterday.

(https://i.imgur.com/7oTrx0S.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Apr 30, 2014 at 06:37 PM
Once OBR place the"pole", room will become smaller... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 30, 2014 at 06:45 PM
Once OBR place the"pole", room will become smaller... ;D ;D ;D

Still keeping the pole for one of the bedrooms   >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Apr 30, 2014 at 07:23 PM
Remember to mass-load it with sand.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 01, 2014 at 06:57 AM
Remember to mass-load it with sand.

 >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: redstarrising on May 01, 2014 at 08:53 AM
Congrats! OBR. I like it especially the wall design aspect. ;) :)
I recall and remember when we did the SM Cebu using Pleko Plastering Drywall and Insulation lightweight material.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 01, 2014 at 07:23 PM
Congrats! OBR. I like it especially the wall design aspect. ;) :)
I recall and remember when we did the SM Cebu using Pleko Plastering Drywall and Insulation lightweight material.

Thanks redstarrising, after a friendly wake up call (I've been down with an exotic virus & not really thinking straight) I realised that maybe this was not the right way to go. Checked this afternoon & the frame was far too rigid, my architect had forgotten that the the plywood & gypsum board would give enough rigidity to the stud wall yet still give enough flexibility to help dissipate the sound energy. All the horizontal frame members will be removed.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 08, 2014 at 09:06 PM
Time for the latest update, all the clutter has been removed from the HT room & just waiting for the plastic conduit, boxes & fittings to be delivered & then we can start work in earnest.

Right wall

(https://i.imgur.com/58p8Pec.jpg)

Left wall

(https://i.imgur.com/Yl9J2wV.jpg)

Front wall

(https://i.imgur.com/7mK0AxM.jpg)

Rear wall

(https://i.imgur.com/1lHSBaw.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on May 09, 2014 at 12:23 PM
This must be thrilling and stressful at the same time. How is the rest of the house progressing?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 10, 2014 at 10:51 AM
This must be thrilling and stressful at the same time. How is the rest of the house progressing?

Hi Gino, Yes it's now got the the point where I can start getting my hands dirty. waiting for some hangers to be fitted that will support the plastic conduits for the speaker cables. At the moment helping my electrician pulling in the cables for lights & outlets. The stressful part is the time delay due to availability of parts, I have had to improvise with some items so it's going to be interesting.
The rest of the house is going well although around 3 months behind all due to suppliers being unable to deliver on time or not at all. The latest is the roof tiles, they are due 2nd week of June so that will be the last job except for the painting. I'll post a photo later.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on May 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM
Good news, bad news, is El Niño weather is predicted for June. That will be a second summer.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 10, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Good news, bad news, is El Niño weather is predicted for June. That will be a second summer.

Thanks for the heads up Gino, I haven't been seeing a lot of news or weather reports, best I start looking.
Latest photo of the house taken 2 days ago.

(https://i.imgur.com/lcFYu8Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jjohnc on May 10, 2014 at 11:36 AM
Thanks for the heads up Gino, I haven't been seeing a lot of news or weather reports, best I start looking.
Latest photo of the house taken 2 days ago.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/May82014008_zps7dc100b4.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/May82014008_zps7dc100b4.jpg.html)
Ganda naman Dre...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 10, 2014 at 08:17 PM
Ganda naman Dre...

Thanks jjohnc   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on May 11, 2014 at 11:24 AM
Fantastic view and clean air.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 11, 2014 at 01:01 PM
Fantastic view and clean air.

Thanks Gino, you're dead right & a nice breeze blowing most of the time.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 13, 2014 at 09:15 PM
Update :- Started the speaker cable conduit installation today. Photos of today's work, should be completed tomorrow with the cables pulled in.

Right wall

(https://i.imgur.com/SnhYSua.jpg)

Rear & right wall

(https://i.imgur.com/UTcnjeK.jpg)

Rear & left wall

(https://i.imgur.com/yoPvpHA.jpg)

Looking at front wall

(https://i.imgur.com/qwoLoqm.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 14, 2014 at 07:25 PM
Slow progress today, arrived on site to find the 1st coat of sealer had been applied to the floor so had to wait until it dried. Managed to complete the conduit work, only 2 boxes to be fitted for the R & L hi speakers when the ceiling framing is installed. Speakers cables go in tomorrow also final positioning of all other cables so the plywood & gypsum can be fitted.

Front wall

(https://i.imgur.com/VnYedh4.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: toys4geeks on May 14, 2014 at 10:31 PM
its so nice to see the progress of this build :)

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 15, 2014 at 07:36 AM
its so nice to see the progress of this build :)

Thanks t4g, it's come hard doing my 1st real work for 2 years but satisfying  ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 15, 2014 at 07:10 PM
Update :- Speaker cables pulled in for the rears, surrounds & front highs. Fronts & center will be cabled with the stage construction.

Front wall

(https://i.imgur.com/QjVLA3T.jpg)

Rear wall

(https://i.imgur.com/PDtAuA4.jpg)

Right & rear walls

(https://i.imgur.com/KYs9VFe.jpg)

Left wall

(https://i.imgur.com/nsSLHl5.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 23, 2014 at 07:40 PM
Update :- Close up of wire mesh that will support the Rockwool.

(https://i.imgur.com/N76TEJ3.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on May 23, 2014 at 08:06 PM
Nice job!

still waiting for the pole foundation  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 24, 2014 at 08:18 AM
Nice job!

still waiting for the pole foundation  ;D

Thanks JH.
Steady  ;D ;D , I will be installing the screen bracket today, it's big & strong enough to double as a pole foundation  >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: oReOsHaKe on May 24, 2014 at 09:31 AM
I'm impressed with the cable organization and management.. Overall excellent progress..  Do you plan any LAN cabling for internet streaming, etc?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: MLfanatic on May 24, 2014 at 10:07 AM
Update :- Started the speaker cable conduit installation today. Photos of today's work, should be completed tomorrow with the cables pulled in.

Right wall

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/May132014002_zpsdde7bd45.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/May132014002_zpsdde7bd45.jpg.html)
 
Rear & right wall

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/May132014001_zpsd1a34c9c.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/May132014001_zpsd1a34c9c.jpg.html)

Rear & left wall

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/May132014003_zps127e75f6.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/May132014003_zps127e75f6.jpg.html)

Looking at front wall

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/May132014004_zps920a3eb8.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/May132014004_zps920a3eb8.jpg.html)

Are those wood holding the wire conduits in the ceiling? Termites can eat them all up. I would rather have aluminum or plastic hold them than wood. Or bolt those steel square brackets directly to the concrete above. That's just my opinion sir, not meaning to offend on your design choices. Subscribing to your thread and eagerly waiting to see it done.  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: edwn1220 on May 24, 2014 at 10:25 AM
Hi, I'm beginning to get curious on the development of your home cinema. From what I've gathered, the house construction started in September last year. I don't know the details of your arrangement with your contractor but it seems he and his workers are taking too long to finish your HC more so your house. I do understand that it's well and good if your contractor is meticulous with his crew's quality of work, makes sure that every nook & cranny is in order and only wants what is best for your house, but aren't you getting tired of waiting for the completion of your house and HC (or whichever order you prefer ;D ;D ;D)?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 24, 2014 at 07:28 PM
I'm impressed with the cable organization and management.. Overall excellent progress..  Do you plan any LAN cabling for internet streaming, etc?

Thanks oReOsHaKe, Yes we're progressing well, the Rockwool install will be completed on Monday, I will take photos tomorrow.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 24, 2014 at 07:35 PM
Are those wood holding the wire conduits in the ceiling? Termites can eat them all up. I would rather have aluminum or plastic hold them than wood. Or bolt those steel square brackets directly to the concrete above. That's just my opinion sir, not meaning to offend on your design choices. Subscribing to your thread and eagerly waiting to see it done.  :)

Hi MLfanatic & welcome. Yes they are wood members in the ceiling, they are being used to hang the ceiling framing from throughout the house, all the wood has been treated so not a problem.
Don't worry about offending, all comments & suggestions are appreciated, I'm glad others are taking an interest   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 24, 2014 at 07:49 PM
Hi, I'm beginning to get curious on the development of your home cinema. From what I've gathered, the house construction started in September last year. I don't know the details of your arrangement with your contractor but it seems he and his workers are taking too long to finish your HC more so your house. I do understand that it's well and good if your contractor is meticulous with his crew's quality of work, makes sure that every nook & cranny is in order and only wants what is best for your house, but aren't you getting tired of waiting for the completion of your house and HC (or whichever order you prefer ;D ;D ;D)?

Hi edwn1220, Yes I'm getting frustrated with the length of time the project is taking. We have had a few problems that were out of our control resulting in target dates not being met resulting in rescheduling of contractors. We're 3 months behind but both myself & my architect are supervising the work which is of a higher standard than I was expecting. As a retired engineering manager there is not a lot that I miss on site. The HT room was set up as a different project using the same crew as building the house & I'm happy with the way things are especially as I have a penalty clause in the contract if the build exceeded 6 months.
Thanks for your concern, all comments welcome.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 24, 2014 at 08:15 PM
Today's efforts.

My welder putting the final touches to the screen bracket mount.

(https://i.imgur.com/mkcFgyw.jpg)

The finished article, I will install tomorrow.

  (https://i.imgur.com/Wao38tr.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 24, 2014 at 08:33 PM
I'm impressed with the cable organization and management.. Overall excellent progress..  Do you plan any LAN cabling for internet streaming, etc?

Heads gone, I'm in the forgetful mode at the moment.
Yes the downstairs will be networked & an ASUS RT-AC66U wireless router will serve upstairs & the garden. I have a NAS server with 12TB & will eventually load all films & music on to it. Hopefully got all bases covered but I'm a newbie with networking, got all the kit, now just have to learn how to use it   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 24, 2014 at 08:40 PM
New gear update :- I have just bought a GoldenEar Forcefield 4 subwoofer to augment my audio system  ;D ;D ;D hopefully will arrive in a week & half.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: edwn1220 on May 24, 2014 at 09:22 PM
It's a good thing you have a firm grasp of  the work that is being done in your house. It's also a big plus that you are taking extra precautions like including a penalty clause. One can only be too prepared for any eventuality.
Good luck on your HT construction and I wish to see more pictures of its progress soon!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 24, 2014 at 09:36 PM
It's a good thing you have a firm grasp of  the work that is being done in your house. It's also a big plus that you are taking extra precautions like including a penalty clause. One can only be too prepared for any eventuality.
Good luck on your HT construction and I wish to see more pictures of its progress soon!

Thanks for your concern, I will be posting photos at every stage  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 25, 2014 at 10:57 PM
The Rockwool install was started yesterday & will be completed tomorrow

Left wall

(https://i.imgur.com/ftujIIh.jpg)

Right wall

(https://i.imgur.com/A7J70NH.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 26, 2014 at 08:54 AM
Screen bracket mount installed yesterday - phew !

(https://i.imgur.com/KOHs2ac.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: oReOsHaKe on May 26, 2014 at 12:05 PM
Heads gone, I'm in the forgetful mode at the moment.
Yes the downstairs will be networked & an ASUS RT-AC66U wireless router will serve upstairs & the garden. I have a NAS server with 12TB & will eventually load all films & music on to it. Hopefully got all bases covered but I'm a newbie with networking, got all the kit, now just have to learn how to use it   ;D

Don't rely too much on wireless networking.  Wired network is still the best when streaming from a NAS.

One of my regrets in building my house is not making some provisions for wired network for all rooms in the house.  LAN to LAN wired connection from the main router is better than wirelessly connecting to the main router. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 26, 2014 at 06:45 PM
Don't rely too much on wireless networking.  Wired network is still the best when streaming from a NAS.

One of my regrets in building my house is not making some provisions for wired network for all rooms in the house.  LAN to LAN wired connection from the main router is better than wirelessly connecting to the main router.

I agree with what you say oReOsHaKe but I am against TV's & PC's in the room I sleep in. The wireless is for the wife to keep her happy with her phone & tablet   ;D
The serious networking will be wired, I shall be using Gigabit switches for connecting to the NAS.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 26, 2014 at 06:58 PM
Update :- We have gone a little backwards today but it's only cost us 1 day. After listening to some friendly advice from Ricky I re assessed the use of chicken wire to support the Rockwool. After an inspection this morning I realised the wire mesh would be prone to causing grating noises with the subwoofer in full flow. I decided to remove the mesh & replace with nylon fishing line, this is complete. We have doubled the crew in the HT room tomorrow, 2 guys will install the Rockwool & 2 more will come along behind & fit the plywood. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 27, 2014 at 07:01 PM
We've got on really well today, should be starting on the ceiling Thursday.

The 1st ply board being fitted to left wall this morning, the foreman caught by surprise.

(https://i.imgur.com/Vpe2yUf.jpg)

Left wall at 5:30 PM today.

(https://i.imgur.com/NyveM6j.jpg)

Front wall at 5:30 PM today.

(https://i.imgur.com/02NMgbI.jpg)

The guys nearing completion of Rockwool install on right wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/5iF1qpR.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 28, 2014 at 10:59 PM
Great progress today, Rockwool install complete & ply fitment almost there.

Left & front wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/xXmuGjd.jpg)

Front & right wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/1A473C7.jpg)

Right & rear wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/xwz15bG.jpg)

Rear & left wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/t0pQJMh.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: oReOsHaKe on May 29, 2014 at 10:10 AM
Very Nice.. Can't wait for the acoustic treatment..
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 29, 2014 at 06:06 PM
Very Nice.. Can't wait for the acoustic treatment..

Thanks oreOsHaKe, to start with the acoustic treatment will be 56 2' x 2' panels + 8 corner bass traps in the HT room & 8 panels in the lounge for the stereo system. I'm going to wait & listen to see what else I need. My long term intention is to have the HT walls covered in fabric to hide the acoustic treatment, what I call making it look pretty.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 29, 2014 at 06:53 PM
Today's progress - Ply board install complete + perimeter runs of the ceiling framing.

Left & back wall, the guys putting the finishing touches to the doorway.

(https://i.imgur.com/O23BbIL.jpg)

Rear wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/aTQZ4MR.jpg)

Front & right wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/aTQZ4MR.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 30, 2014 at 11:56 PM
Today's efforts,

Looking to the front, 3 vertical supports to be fitted & ceiling framing complete.

(https://i.imgur.com/xgrkx06.jpg)

Looking to the rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/zOhqSlC.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on May 31, 2014 at 10:19 AM
Naiinip na ako ha! Bilis!!! ;D   ;D....joke lang boss....suggestion sana ito noon pa...taking pictures should be on the same spots para ma appreciate ang mga every details na pagbabago in every portion of the project, dapat naka tripod pa ang cam, same spot, same height, same orientation O0
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: dench on May 31, 2014 at 12:35 PM
Looks like a big project over there. Congratulations in advance bro!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 01, 2014 at 03:27 PM
Naiinip na ako ha! Bilis!!! ;D   ;D....joke lang boss....suggestion sana ito noon pa...taking pictures should be on the same spots para ma appreciate ang mga every details na pagbabago in every portion of the project, dapat naka tripod pa ang cam, same spot, same height, same orientation O0

Hi sovrain, it is frustrating waiting for things to happen, the waiting is boring but getting involved definitely is not. Unfortunately I'm not a camera man, I class the camera as a necessary evil, understand what you say & it would probably be easier to understand the build but a tripod etc. is not going to happen. I have been trying to take the photos from the same positions & there are reference points on the walls e.g. boxes for outlets that you can focus on for inter photo positioning. If anyone wants close up of any areas just post & I will upload.  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 01, 2014 at 03:33 PM
Looks like a big project over there. Congratulations in advance bro!

Thanks for the congrats, yes it is a big project, it's turned a bit bigger that I thought it would be but will be very satisfying on completion   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 04, 2014 at 10:14 PM
Slow progress, the guys went home for the weekend & had trouble returning from the provinces so we lost Monday. 1st layer of Gypsum board installed above ceiling framing & almost half the room done by 4:30 PM today.

Rear wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/dOdFm5K.jpg)

Right wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/9Hajyo0.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 05, 2014 at 09:03 AM
Gears list in post 1 updated - subwoofer added for Stereo set up.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 05, 2014 at 08:36 PM
First layer of gypsum board complete & 2nd layer started.

Front wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/dff0ynU.jpg)

Left wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/whXmbAq.jpg)

Rear wall with 1st 2 sheets of 2nd layer fitted.

(https://i.imgur.com/4IPk7ZU.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 08, 2014 at 10:55 AM
2nd layer of Gypsum board completed yesterday, Rockwool will be installed in the ceiling today.

Front wall - finishing touches being added.

(https://i.imgur.com/9YuBNaC.jpg)

Back wall - Rockwool support lines being put in.

(https://i.imgur.com/jBmbNtu.jpg)

Right wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/YNjlGfu.jpg)

Left wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/J03zURB.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jun 08, 2014 at 11:03 AM
It's feeling like a room now. Excellent build. These guys wilk gain a lot of experience with an HT room.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Jun 08, 2014 at 11:07 AM
Looking good. Excellent build! Now I have a reference for step by step room build...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 08, 2014 at 08:43 PM
It's feeling like a room now. Excellent build. These guys wilk gain a lot of experience with an HT room.

You're right Gino, I now feel as if I have something to work with. Although the language barrier is a bit of a problem I have been able to make myself understood & the guys are great, they are only too willing to help. As they know the room is special to me they keep saying "we will make it perfect" - a brilliant attitude. All I can say is I would not have got the same understanding in the UK.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 08, 2014 at 08:53 PM
Looking good. Excellent build! Now I have a reference for step by step room build...

Hi bro Jen, thanks for your comment. A little bit of information for you, the 1st layer (plywood) is not necessary for soundproofing purposes. I am using it for secure mounting of my speaker brackets, I didn't like the thought of relying on a fixing in the Gypsum board.  On saying that the resonant frequency of the plywood is different to the Gypsum board so it helps a little on the soundproofing side.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 08, 2014 at 08:58 PM
A little bit slow today, only a third of the ceiling having the Rockwool installed. The guys have overdone supporting the Rockwool - which is taking a lot of time - but I am giving them their head, they really want to do a good job. It will probably take an extra day but I don't have a problem with that  :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: AppleMan on Jun 08, 2014 at 09:12 PM
Ika nga nila slowly but surely kesa naman pumalpak... :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 08, 2014 at 10:15 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 09, 2014 at 08:52 AM
Ika nga nila slowly but surely kesa naman pumalpak... :)

Yes I don't mind slowly but surely as long as end result is how I want it.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 09, 2014 at 08:54 AM
Wow!

Hi Nelson, wow is what I want to be saying when I walk through the door on completion  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 09, 2014 at 09:25 AM
Hi Nelson, wow is what I want to be saying when I walk through the door on completion  ;D

With all the planning, "wow" is a must, aesthetically and acoustically.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: dench on Jun 09, 2014 at 01:58 PM
Lookin' good sir!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Jun 09, 2014 at 02:17 PM
Hi bro Jen, thanks for your comment. A little bit of information for you, the 1st layer (plywood) is not necessary for soundproofing purposes. I am using it for secure mounting of my speaker brackets, I didn't like the thought of relying on a fixing in the Gypsum board.  On saying that the resonant frequency of the plywood is different to the Gypsum board so it helps a little on the soundproofing side.

Hi bro! Your "build" is really going to be my reference. Hopefully in 5-years time when I get a chance to transfer to a newer house, have a bigger dedicated room, I'll follow your footsteps. Good luck!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 10, 2014 at 07:20 PM
With all the planning, "wow" is a must, aesthetically and acoustically.

Thanx Nelson for your appreciation   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 10, 2014 at 07:21 PM
Lookin' good sir!

Thanx dench   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 10, 2014 at 07:26 PM
Hi bro! Your "build" is really going to be my reference. Hopefully in 5-years time when I get a chance to transfer to a newer house, have a bigger dedicated room, I'll follow your footsteps. Good luck!

Superman your appreciation makes me humble, this is my 1st HT build but by the time you start your own build I'll be able tell you what I did wrong.
Thanxs again for your appreciation   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 10, 2014 at 08:04 PM
I've had internet problems again - thank you Globe, so yesterdays updates are a bit late.
Ceiling Rockwool completed & plywood layer started.

Looking front from right rear corner.

(https://i.imgur.com/wMaTQsj.jpg)

Looking towards the rear wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/iOx2Vmj.jpg)

Left wall from front right corner.

(https://i.imgur.com/ACfbZL2.jpg)

Looking towards the rear later in the day.

(https://i.imgur.com/sYuya73.jpg)

Looking to the rear another sheet of ply wood added just before I left site.

(https://i.imgur.com/G6UKBrW.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 10, 2014 at 08:16 PM
Today plywood layer completed & 2 rows (50%) of gypsum board added to the ceiling.

Right wall looking front from left rear

(https://i.imgur.com/0qGQyDU.jpg)

Right wall looking rear from left front.

(https://i.imgur.com/DtcsBjx.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: AppleMan on Jun 10, 2014 at 09:48 PM
Congrats in Advance Sir...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 11, 2014 at 06:42 PM
Congrats in Advance Sir...

Thanx china-man.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 11, 2014 at 06:55 PM
Ceiling finished today, room cleaned & all joints checked & sealant added where required. Sealing joints continuing tomorrow + me marking out the stage & seat plinth. Stage & seat plinth build will start on Friday, getting excited at the thought of really  getting involved  ;D 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 12, 2014 at 07:52 PM
Just reread the thread & realised I've missed something which is important to the soundproofing. My original intention was to use Resilient Sound Insulation Clips to decouple the stud wall framing from the walls but importing from the US would have put too much of a delay on the project. I decided to use low density rubber strip between the framing & floor & ceiling. Also the screw fixing holes were over size using  a large steel washer with a low density rubber washer underneath. This means that none of the metal work is in direct contact with walls, floor & ceiling. I used 6mm thick rubber, maybe should have been thicker but will write a review when the HT room is up & running.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 12, 2014 at 08:42 PM
I've taken 1 set of seats to the HT room today to mark out the seat plinth & have decided to leave them there so they will be appearing in a lot of the photos. Stage build starts tomorrow.

Front & right wall, still sealing the joints

(https://i.imgur.com/xPMZLAx.jpg)

Right wall

(https://i.imgur.com/NMYGaLg.jpg)

Left & rear walls

(https://i.imgur.com/GLE7i4E.jpg)

Rear wall

(https://i.imgur.com/VOLlTdg.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Jun 13, 2014 at 02:15 AM
almost there now OBR....I know waiting is killing you... >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 13, 2014 at 02:52 AM
i think this is far from over .. interior plus gear installation, which is actually longer  .. :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 13, 2014 at 07:53 AM
almost there now OBR....I know waiting is killing you... >:D

Hi JH, I've had to be patient but at least I can see light at the end of the tunnel   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 13, 2014 at 08:04 AM
i think this is far from over .. interior plus gear installation, which is actually longer  .. :D

You're right ninjababez but at least I will be more involved now  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 13, 2014 at 08:13 AM
I've rethought my colour scheme & have decided to go with red walls (tending towards burgundy), black ceiling but the soffits are causing me a bit of a headache. Don't know whether to go same as wall, same as ceiling or a colour half way between the 2. My architect is going to help me out redoing the computer images as my visualising of colour schemes is hopeless  :-\ 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Jun 13, 2014 at 10:47 AM
Hi JH, I've had to be patient but at least I can see light at the end of the tunnel   ;D ;D ;D

I know you have a lot of patience that's why you reach that age... ;) ;D ^-^
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM
I know you have a lot of patience that's why you reach that age... ;) ;D ^-^

Shucks. you've discovered my secret   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 14, 2014 at 01:35 AM
You're right ninjababez but at least I will be more involved now  ;D
i bet you can't wait for this ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 14, 2014 at 07:36 AM
i bet you can't wait for this ;D

I've been without my sounds & HT for 15 months now, almost forgotten what my equipment looks like  :-\
Yes can't wait & should hopefully only be for another 5 or 6 weeks so waiting patiently  :) Fingers crossed that it all fires up without any problems.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jun 16, 2014 at 08:50 AM
When I went into RC helicopters, I left my audio system untouched for 3 years. When I finally listened, wow, unimaginable thrill. It was more palpable than ever.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 16, 2014 at 10:19 AM
When I went into RC helicopters, I left my audio system untouched for 3 years. When I finally listened, wow, unimaginable thrill. It was more palpable than ever.

My only sounds have been via a Karaoke amp since Xmas so I'm expecting to be amazed when my system is up & running. Never been into sub woofers for audio but added one a couple of weeks ago to see what I may have been missing - pleasantly surprised   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 17, 2014 at 08:13 PM
May be be quiet for a while, a fire in the local town has taken out a cable so no internet. Using a Tattoo stick with a netbook but so slow cannot down load anything. Will update as soon as normal service is resumed.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 17, 2014 at 08:19 PM
May be be quiet for a while, a fire in the local town has taken out a cable so no internet. Using a Tattoo stick with a netbook but so slow cannot down load anything. Will update as soon as normal service is resumed.

Usually, no internet connection would mean more bonding time for my family.  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 18, 2014 at 08:49 AM

Usually, no internet connection would mean more bonding time for my family.  ;D

That's not a bad thing Nelson  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 18, 2014 at 08:59 AM
Internet back on this morning so here are the photos from Monday, seat riser framing under way.

Looking towards rear + right wall

(https://i.imgur.com/Fysv3RX.jpg)

Looking at doorway from right wall. Through the doorway you can see 2 of the 10 boxes of acoustic panels & corner bass traps.

(https://i.imgur.com/Orz2pO2.jpg)

Looking at right wall from doorway.

(https://i.imgur.com/VqvEBgR.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Jun 18, 2014 at 10:28 AM
Grabe! Double wall na, double flooring pa pala...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Jun 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM
wow! almost there OBR. good work! :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Jun 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM
Congratulations! A few more weeks...You'll have your much awaited HT Room! :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 18, 2014 at 12:01 PM
How do you plan to suppress the seat riser if it resonates?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Jun 18, 2014 at 01:22 PM
seat riser pala yun,  ;D ;D akala ko all throughout ng floor e lalagyan :-[
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 18, 2014 at 06:29 PM
Grabe! Double wall na, double flooring pa pala...

The framework is for the seat riser 12 inches high, front of riser 9 feet from rear wall.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 18, 2014 at 06:31 PM
wow! almost there OBR. good work! :)

Thanks nolax, yes it's developing nicely, they will start the stage tomorrow.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 18, 2014 at 06:37 PM
Congratulations! A few more weeks...You'll have your much awaited HT Room! :)

Hi bro Jen, I may have to put a hold on things if the wife's UK visa comes through, we'll be off to the UK for 3 weeks. I'm actually getting a little excited & hoping my efforts will show an upgrade to what I have been used to in the UK.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 18, 2014 at 06:40 PM
How do you plan to suppress the seat riser if it resonates?

Hi Nelson, hopefully the riser won't resonate as I'll be filling it with sand. also the stage. Should make them acoustically dead.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 18, 2014 at 06:54 PM
Yesterdays work, riser frame almost complete.

Looking at right wall from doorway.

(https://i.imgur.com/KwjwPUv.jpg)

Looking at doorway from right wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/AT6NHuM.jpg)

Looking towards the rear from left side.

(https://i.imgur.com/9PqBw5u.jpg)

Right rear corner from left side.

(https://i.imgur.com/dGI7mGz.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 18, 2014 at 07:34 PM
Today front of riser shaped to take the seats & 1 step almost complete.

Right wall from doorway.

(https://i.imgur.com/MwbRcHe.jpg)

Left step almost complete.

(https://i.imgur.com/D1tzVO3.jpg)
Title: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: crazyhog on Jun 18, 2014 at 08:28 PM
Awesome job! congratz
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 19, 2014 at 08:56 AM
Awesome job! congratz

Thanks crazyhog  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Jun 19, 2014 at 09:50 AM
Hi bro Jen, I may have to put a hold on things if the wife's UK visa comes through, we'll be off to the UK for 3 weeks. I'm actually getting a little excited & hoping my efforts will show an upgrade to what I have been used to in the UK.

Do you have a pic of your HT in UK?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 19, 2014 at 08:20 PM
Do you have a pic of your HT in UK?

I could probably dig out a few piccies of the HT evolution. I'll sort them out & post.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 19, 2014 at 09:24 PM
Seat riser frame finished today, waiting for me to install the step lighting cabling tomorrow.

From right wall looking towards the door.

(https://i.imgur.com/MOAYo1Q.jpg)

From left wall looking towards right wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/EDQSQZb.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 19, 2014 at 09:31 PM
Start of the stage build.

Right hand side

(https://i.imgur.com/GmLJK5B.jpg)

From left wall, the front curved section being formed. You'll have to excuse the corner of the HT seats, space is a bit tight.

(https://i.imgur.com/zWmNkTz.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 19, 2014 at 09:33 PM
Hi Nelson, hopefully the riser won't resonate as I'll be filling it with sand. also the stage. Should make them acoustically dead.

That's great!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 19, 2014 at 09:43 PM
That's great!

Thanx Nelson.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 20, 2014 at 08:37 PM
A few photos of my previous UK set up.

Nov. 07

(https://i.imgur.com/JimVwKu.jpg)

Nov. 09 - Upgraded AVR & TV to 1080P,  Blu Ray added

(https://i.imgur.com/WsnU58f.jpg)

Q5 rears - lazy lions on top to stop my 2 cats jumping up on the speakers.

(https://i.imgur.com/M674bZS.jpg)

Left surround + left rear

(https://i.imgur.com/ftXLB1Y.jpg)

Right surround + right rear

(https://i.imgur.com/XYwMPyQ.jpg)

Jan 10 - upgraded center speaker & amp.

(https://i.imgur.com/tB9ifCk.jpg)

During 2011 upgraded system to 11.1, sub to BK Monolith & added MS Performance 6's. All the additions prior to my relocation in Cebu are on page 1.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 20, 2014 at 09:06 PM
Right hand step light conduits in.

(https://i.imgur.com/hgpWOQY.jpg)

Left hand step light conduits in.

(https://i.imgur.com/jKHTMYW.jpg)

Encountered a problem today, the 240V AC led rope light I was going to use has a minimum length of 1 metre but the steps are 3 feet wide. Had to change to 12DC rope lights with minimum length of .5 metre but now have to make a compartment in the front of the riser to house the power supply. My job tomorrow.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 20, 2014 at 09:11 PM
The stage coming along nicely.

Looking to right front corner from left wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/eySXRz6.jpg)

Looking to front left corner from right wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/BwlXlrR.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jun 20, 2014 at 11:59 PM
Good trick with the stuffed toys. However, the form doesn't matter. Cats will not climb uprights with 45 degrees or more overhang. I have 4 cats.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 21, 2014 at 04:40 AM
Oldboyracer no plans of using a PJ? :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 08:03 AM
Good trick with the stuffed toys. However, the form doesn't matter. Cats will not climb uprights with 45 degrees or more overhang. I have 4 cats.

The strange thing it was only my tom cat that liked sitting on the speakers. On the fronts I used to put soap powder boxes that also deterred him. When we move in I'll have to assess the pet situation, I'm a bit of a cat man.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 21, 2014 at 08:09 AM
The strange thing it was only my tom cat that liked sitting on the speakers. On the fronts I used to put soap powder boxes that also deterred him. When we move in I'll have to assess the pet situation, I'm a bit of a cat man.

With your new dedicated room, you'll have the option of not letting your cat inside, assuming the cat won't bug you when you're inside, just like my dog who keeps on scratching the door.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 08:11 AM
Oldboyracer no plans of using a PJ? :)

If the 85" Panny has any problems I shall seriously look at PJ's. As Pioneer & Panasonic are no longer in the Plasma market I don't think any of the other manufacturers come close to them. Saying that I don't know yet whether my screen survived the journey from the UK so I could be looking at a PJ sooner than expected  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 08:18 AM
With your new dedicated room, you'll have the option of not letting your cat inside, assuming the cat won't bug you when you're inside, just like my dog who keeps on scratching the door.

One thing will be for certain Nelson, no pets in the HT room. There will be 2 solid core doors so I don't think I'd hear the scratching. The good thing about a dedicated room, the environment can be controlled better than a multi function room.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jun 21, 2014 at 10:00 AM
Growing up, my cats ripped a cheap canvass cabinet which they used as a scratching post and as a hammock.

I have 3 boys and a mom (she is "fixed"). When two older ones started fighting, I "fixed" one. No more fighting. Now the younger one is getting into fights. Soon one of them will be fixed too.

A New year's toy horn is great with breaking up fights. These cardboard horns work every time. Works on people too.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 21, 2014 at 10:54 AM
If the 85" Panny has any problems I shall seriously look at PJ's. As Pioneer & Panasonic are no longer in the Plasma market I don't think any of the other manufacturers come close to them. Saying that I don't know yet whether my screen survived the journey from the UK so I could be looking at a PJ sooner than expected  ;D
oldboy why dont you ship your 85" here so i can test for you :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 21, 2014 at 11:19 AM
oldboy why dont you ship your 85" here so i can test for you :D

Next step to assess thaf it doesn't perform well anymore better a PJ upgrade and sell the 85" plasma cheap.  I'll be expecting a P15k 85" plasma in the Marketplace soon! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/21.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 21, 2014 at 12:43 PM
Next step to assess thaf it doesn't perform well anymore better a PJ upgrade and sell the 85" plasma cheap.  I'll be expecting a P15k 85" plasma in the Marketplace soon! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/21.gif)

Please reserve, DIBS, pending audition.  :P
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Jun 21, 2014 at 12:45 PM
I will buy this blindly..no more inspection..no more audition..

16K

 >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sientobente on Jun 21, 2014 at 01:37 PM
These guys are lowballing you OBR! My bid is at P16.5k!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 21, 2014 at 04:35 PM
P16,501.00!!!!




Going....





Going....




Going....






SOLD to me!

:P
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Jun 21, 2014 at 04:38 PM
If the 85" Panny has any problems I shall seriously look at PJ's. As Pioneer & Panasonic are no longer in the Plasma market I don't think any of the other manufacturers come close to them. Saying that I don't know yet whether my screen survived the journey from the UK so I could be looking at a PJ sooner than expected  ;D

if you do go the PJ route, check out PJ's by Panasonic, Epson, and JVC. ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 08:44 PM
Growing up, my cats ripped a cheap canvass cabinet which they used as a scratching post and as a hammock.

I have 3 boys and a mom (she is "fixed"). When two older ones started fighting, I "fixed" one. No more fighting. Now the younger one is getting into fights. Soon one of them will be fixed too.

A New year's toy horn is great with breaking up fights. These cardboard horns work every time. Works on people too.

Gino I was very fortunate with my last 2 cats, they seemed to respect the house & I never had a problem with them but my 1st 2 cats were a different proposition. I was given a 1M monitor lizard 3 months ago which I had to set free because it was injuring itself trying to escape. It now scratches the door when it is hungry, I will catch it again & transfer it to a proper cage when we move into the house.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 08:47 PM
oldboy why dont you ship your 85" here so i can test for you :D

Jammy, I like your style. I say this in the nicest possible way, no chance.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 09:04 PM
Next step to assess thaf it doesn't perform well anymore better a PJ upgrade and sell the 85" plasma cheap.  I'll be expecting a P15k 85" plasma in the Marketplace soon! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/21.gif)

Doc, it seems a few people are getting on the band wagon. A P2.3M screen for P15K. I don't think so but nice try  ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 09:17 PM
Please reserve, DIBS, pending audition.  :P

I will reserve for you Nelson but will have to work out a price.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 09:19 PM
I will buy this blindly..no more inspection..no more audition..

16K

 >:D >:D >:D

JH, Nelson's price + ?  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 09:21 PM
These guys are lowballing you OBR! My bid is at P16.5k!

Tell me about it sientobiente but so are you  ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 09:23 PM
P16,501.00!!!!




Going....





Going....




Going....






SOLD to me!

:P

I like the additional P1 Nelson  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 09:26 PM
if you do go the PJ route, check out PJ's by Panasonic, Epson, and JVC. ;)

Thanks DTNS for some sensible input  ;D ;D ;D. I would probably go down the JVC route but would have to audition first. Don't know how easy that would be here in Cebu.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Jun 21, 2014 at 09:29 PM
PM-ed you :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 09:45 PM
PM-ed you :)

Replied to your PM.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 21, 2014 at 10:42 PM
Progress today, stage framing complete.

Left hand side.

(https://i.imgur.com/BCNsU4U.jpg)

Right hand side.

(https://i.imgur.com/Fb6NIl6.jpg)

Outside right speaker cables in.

(https://i.imgur.com/xLmgpzl.jpg)

Right front speaker cables in.

(https://i.imgur.com/GUnLpgT.jpg)

Left front speaker cables in.

(https://i.imgur.com/27xsAi3.jpg)

Outside left & front left speaker cables in & ground cable connected.

(https://i.imgur.com/cvMQC1T.jpg)

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 22, 2014 at 07:16 AM
Jammy, I like your style. I say this in the nicest possible way, no chance.
worth a try :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 22, 2014 at 09:16 AM
worth a try :)

Yes it's always worth a try, an old saying - you don't get if you don't ask.   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jun 22, 2014 at 10:07 AM
How I wish your set up is just a few kilometers away from here sir OBR so we could have EB soon... Everyday Im checking your progress and getting more and more excited ^-^
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Jun 22, 2014 at 12:30 PM
Andaming may gusto ng 85, why don't you wait na matapos yung HTroom ni OBR, baka ....mag iinvite yan para sa EB, a major one, tas, auction ng 85....starting bid - 16,501.00 >:D  >:D  >:D  ano kaya itsura ng auction, kagulo siguro ng mga makukulit.... ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 22, 2014 at 06:07 PM
How I wish your set up is just a few kilometers away from here sir OBR so we could have EB soon... Everyday Im checking your progress and getting more and more excited ^-^

Yes Louie it is a shame that we live on different islands but maybe something can be sorted out one day. I'm also getting excited but no work on the project from midday yesterday till tomorrow morning. We're waiting for polythene sheet to be delivered, there will be a polythene lining before the sand is added to the stage & seat riser. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 22, 2014 at 06:09 PM
Andaming may gusto ng 85, why don't you wait na matapos yung HTroom ni OBR, baka ....mag iinvite yan para sa EB, a major one, tas, auction ng 85....starting bid - 16,501.00 >:D  >:D  >:D  ano kaya itsura ng auction, kagulo siguro ng mga makukulit.... ;D  ;D  ;D

EB's are not a problem sovrain but I can't see the auction happening   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 23, 2014 at 05:40 AM
Yes Louie it is a shame that we live on different islands but maybe something can be sorted out one day. I'm also getting excited but no work on the project from midday yesterday till tomorrow morning. We're waiting for polythene sheet to be delivered, there will be a polythene lining before the sand is added to the stage & seat riser. 
if its possible not to add the sand YET, please try it first.  it does sometimes have a good effect sonically.  the if its not to your liking, then fill the stage with sand.  billabongs's setup is one of the best ht checked out and i find the effect good (raised wooden floor).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 23, 2014 at 08:57 AM
if its possible not to add the sand YET, please try it first.  it does sometimes have a good effect sonically.  the if its not to your liking, then fill the stage with sand.  billabongs's setup is one of the best ht checked out and i find the effect good (raised wooden floor).

To fill with sand later would mean removing the carpet & all the gears. I don't know whether I would want to do that but I will give your suggestion some thought & do a bit more research.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 23, 2014 at 09:40 AM
To fill with sand later would mean removing the carpet & all the gears. I don't know whether I would want to do that but I will give your suggestion some thought & do a bit more research.

NinjaB. wants the seat riser to resonate for the "massage effect".
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Jun 23, 2014 at 06:12 PM
OBR,

you might want to consider Sony's line of projectors. they're available here: ;) ;D
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,174093.90/topicseen.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,174093.90/topicseen.html)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 23, 2014 at 06:54 PM
NinjaB. wants the seat riser to resonate for the "massage effect".

Nelson what can I say ? Had I been a lot younger it might have been worth thinking about   >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 23, 2014 at 07:00 PM
OBR,

you might want to consider Sony's line of projectors. they're available here: ;) ;D
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,174093.90/topicseen.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,174093.90/topicseen.html)

Thanks for that DTNS, if it happens I'll probably be looking at a 4K PJ. This is the area of HT that I know nothing about so will have to do much auditioning   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 23, 2014 at 07:12 PM
if its possible not to add the sand YET, please try it first.  it does sometimes have a good effect sonically.  the if its not to your liking, then fill the stage with sand.  billabongs's setup is one of the best ht checked out and i find the effect good (raised wooden floor).

Researched a bit this morning & from what I was reading anybody who has left their stage & risers empty have been very lucky not to have had problems. Rockwool or Fiberglass will resolve the resonance issue but sand will add mass that will help to prevent vibration from the subs & speakers getting to the floor.
As it would be too much work to retro fit on this occasion I'm going to follow the 'experts' - sand it is  :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 23, 2014 at 07:18 PM
We've come to a bit of a halt, waiting for poly sheet (to go under the sand) & the step nosings to be delivered. Only work done today - I made a compartment in the front of the seat riser to house the step light power supply, it will be fitted with a removable grill so it can 'breathe'.
May not be further updates till Wednesday.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 23, 2014 at 08:42 PM
Nelson what can I say ? Had I been a lot younger it might have been worth thinking about   >:D >:D >:D

There's always the transducers that you can turn on & off.  ;D

We've come to a bit of a halt, waiting for poly sheet (to go under the sand) & the step nosings to be delivered.

You should sundry the sands before installing. there are also other options other than poly sheets for sealing. The PE foam insulation are basically same (material) with poly sheets.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM
There's always the transducers that you can turn on & off.  ;D

Steady  :)

You should sundry the sands before installing. there are also other options other than poly sheets for sealing. The PE foam insulation are basically same (material) with poly sheets.

Not quite sure what you mean by 'sundry the sands'. I intend to put polythene (plastic) sheeting inside the stage & riser before adding the sand, this is to prevent the sand finding any exits & also if I need to make alterations, easier to remove.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 24, 2014 at 12:04 AM
Not quite sure what you mean by 'sundry the sands'. I intend to put polythene (plastic) sheeting inside the stage & riser before adding the sand, this is to prevent the sand finding any exits & also if I need to make alterations, easier to remove.

Have the sand exposed to the sun to lessen moisture.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 24, 2014 at 08:06 AM
Have the sand exposed to the sun to lessen moisture.

He he, too many San Migs, I read it as sundry meaning miscellaneous when it should of been sun dry - my mistake. No problems with moisture the sand is being stored inside.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 24, 2014 at 02:08 PM
He he, too many San Migs, I read it as sundry meaning miscellaneous w hen it should of been sun dry - my mistake. No problems with moisture the sand is being stored inside.
with our humidity here id consider what don master konsi nelsons said even if its stored inside :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 24, 2014 at 10:14 PM
with our humidity here id consider what don master konsi nelsons said even if its stored inside :)

Hi Jammy, I didn't explain myself fully, the sand has already been dried in the sun & brought inside in case it rains which at this time of year is very possible   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 27, 2014 at 09:05 AM
Yesterday, LED step lighting fitted to step nosing's & then fitted to steps.

LED strips on step nosing's before fitting.

(https://i.imgur.com/6fTrGy1.jpg)

Right step.

(https://i.imgur.com/NkUDPgP.jpg)

Right step showing rebate for light strip.

(https://i.imgur.com/lMsPRwq.jpg)

Left step.

(https://i.imgur.com/4k9OPcQ.jpg)

Left step showing rebate for light strip.

(https://i.imgur.com/A39eE9o.jpg)

Speaker cables to be connected soon.

(https://i.imgur.com/PLSlBng.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 27, 2014 at 07:18 PM
Stage & seat riser nosing's finished today also poly under sheet before sand pour.

Stage looking from left.

(https://i.imgur.com/GaXYx0K.jpg)

Stage looking from right.

(https://i.imgur.com/oOeOO1U.jpg)

Seat riser looking from right.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZwyB4kL.jpg)

Seat riser looking from left.

(https://i.imgur.com/k2mWpDV.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jun 27, 2014 at 07:25 PM
That is looking mighty good. What's your room's floor dimensions? It's just so I can imagine it.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 27, 2014 at 09:38 PM
That is looking mighty good. What's your room's floor dimensions? It's just so I can imagine it.

Thanks Gino, the room would have been near to one of the 'golden ratios' but my architect forgot about the depth of the beam halfway down the room so I've ended up with 1:1.83:2.58 which is still not bad. Dimensions are 22' 11 3/8"  long, 16' 1 1/2" wide & 8' 10 1/4" high.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jun 27, 2014 at 10:03 PM
Mine is 1:1.9 and sound good. You should be fine.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 28, 2014 at 08:31 AM
Mine is 1:1.9 and sound good. You should be fine.

Thanks for your confidence Gino.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 01, 2014 at 10:10 PM
HT room on hold for a few days, drying out another delivery of sand & preparing the underside of the roof over hangs for the CCTV install. Soffit install the next job we will be doing as I expect the sand drying to take around a week   :(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 03, 2014 at 08:30 PM
Taken by surprise today, arrived on site to find the decorators in the HT room filling the screw holes, taping the Gypsum board joints & applying putty. 3 walls finished only left wall & ceiling to go.
Photos tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Jul 03, 2014 at 10:07 PM
Taken by surprise today, arrived on site to find the decorators in the HT room filling the screw holes, taping the Gypsum board joints & applying putty. 3 walls finished only left wall & ceiling to go.
Photos tomorrow.

Excited to see the latest photos! :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 04, 2014 at 07:28 AM
You can heat the sand in a big wok. Or you can use hair dryer also.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 04, 2014 at 08:25 AM
Excited to see the latest photos! :)

I'll post the photos early evening Nolax   :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 04, 2014 at 08:36 AM
You can heat the sand in a big wok. Or you can use hair dryer also.

Thanks for the suggestions Nelson but I think there's just a little too much to go down those routes. It's fortunate that the games room is now fairly clear, we've spread the sand & turning it as it dries, hopefully shouldn't take too long. It won't stop us from installing the soffits & lighting   ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 04, 2014 at 08:43 PM
Decorators doing well, 2 walls filled 2nd time around, should be complete tomorrow. Air con mounting plate fitted, not to happy as the installers have mounted it 8" off center, cannot do anything about it as pipe work was installed in the wrong position. I will have to modify the rear soffit install, a bit of an inconvenience but not insurmountable.

Looking rear from front.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y2HlcLC.jpg)

Looking front from rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/OPgYnVr.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: AppleMan on Jul 05, 2014 at 01:51 AM
Almost there....Congrats in Advance... ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 05, 2014 at 07:38 AM
Almost there....Congrats in Advance... ;)

Thanx china-man, still quite a bit of work to be done but the end is in sight   ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Chain on Jul 05, 2014 at 08:14 AM
i would love to go there and audition the room when its done.thanks for keeping us posted every step of the way.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 05, 2014 at 05:13 PM
i would love to go there and audition the room when its done.thanks for keeping us posted every step of the way.

Thanks Chain Reactor, when the the HT room is completed & fully set up PDVD members will be welcome to audition. I hope my postings will be of help to forum members if they choose to go down the same route or even part of it. The good thing is I'll be able to tell every one what I did wrong & what is necessary to put it right.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 05, 2014 at 05:16 PM
My HT room decorator is having a weekend off so no more updates till Monday/Tuesday  :(.
Title: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: crazyhog on Jul 05, 2014 at 06:11 PM
Though im not building a dedicated HT room, im enjoying looking at ur thread for new updates to get tips and ideas how to build a HT room and its acoustics. Keep it up George!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 05, 2014 at 07:20 PM
My HT room decorator is having a weekend off so no more updates till Monday/Tuesday  :(.

That's because you let him have a weekend off without you serving ice cold pale pilsen.  ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 05, 2014 at 07:56 PM
Though im not building a dedicated HT room, im enjoying looking at ur thread for new updates to get tips and ideas how to build a HT room and its acoustics. Keep it up George!

Thanks for your kind comments crazyhog, My only wish is this thread will be helpful to forum members for future projects they may have.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 05, 2014 at 08:01 PM
That's because you let him have a weekend off without you serving ice cold pale pilsen.  ;)

Nelson, I wish that was the reason - easily remedied. He's using a 40 gallon drum to stand on & I've witnessed him falling off once, I don't want to be responsible for him breaking his neck. Seriously he & his crew have been working hard preparing the rest of the house for painting so I don't begrudge him a weekend off   ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: deo on Jul 08, 2014 at 10:38 AM
wow, planadong planado...congrats in advance
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 08, 2014 at 07:58 PM
wow, planadong planado...congrats in advance

Thanx deo  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Jul 08, 2014 at 08:48 PM
You are lucky that you were able to get the services of such passionate builders, you guys compliment each other. I'm sure once its ready youll invite them to see a great
Movie as reward for their hard work. ExpendableS marathon is in order hehehe
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 09, 2014 at 09:01 AM
You are lucky that you were able to get the services of such passionate builders, you guys compliment each other. I'm sure once its ready youll invite them to see a great
Movie as reward for their hard work. ExpendableS marathon is in order hehehe

Hi ricky, yes I have been  a bit fortunate as they are also very accommodating. It was my intention to treat them, I have a few candidates for a marathon view  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 09, 2014 at 09:04 AM
End of work last night, seat riser 75% loaded with dry sand & 50% of wall & ceiling surfaces sanded.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 11, 2014 at 10:27 PM
Seat riser loaded with sand, plywood top will be fitted tomorrow.

From right looking towards doorway.

(https://i.imgur.com/LWgnnjc.jpg)

From doorway looking towards the right.

(https://i.imgur.com/l6OvpHA.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 12, 2014 at 07:50 PM
Seat riser complete except for step covering. My fault, I've forgotten the width of my seats & need to check there is enough clearance to fit a nosing on the sides of the steps. A job for Monday.

Looking at the doorway from the right.

(https://i.imgur.com/aj9xPzR.jpg)

Looking from the doorway to the right.

(https://i.imgur.com/n7Jfox1.jpg)

Trial patch of the prospective final wall colour.

(https://i.imgur.com/3bvX81y.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 12, 2014 at 08:15 PM
The latest computer rendering of the HT room showing more accurate final colours.

(https://i.imgur.com/XsmF2iM.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: mbtorn on Jul 12, 2014 at 08:25 PM
The latest computer rendering of the HT room showing more accurate final colours.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/THEATER1_zpsaadd731e.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/THEATER1_zpsaadd731e.jpg.html)

Wow! Well thought out.  Like the overall design and color scheme. :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 12, 2014 at 10:04 PM
Wow nice! Going the PJ route huh? Congrats! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/41.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 13, 2014 at 07:56 AM
Wow! Well thought out.  Like the overall design and color scheme. :)

Thanx mbtorn, took me quite a long time to decide on trying the deep red but spending most of yesterday looking at it I'm pleased to say the colour has grown on me  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 13, 2014 at 07:59 AM
Wow nice! Going the PJ route huh? Congrats! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/41.gif)

Thanx Doc, not quite going the PJ route yet. If the Panny hasn't survived the journey or it develops a problem then PJ it will be  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Jul 13, 2014 at 09:12 AM
ribbon cutting by FHM models....weeeeeeeh! >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jul 13, 2014 at 09:40 AM
Good to see the primary seats aren't on the riser. You have the liberty to move them for that sweet spot. Bass on the rear seats near the wall might sound deeper but hollow during my personal tests.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Photonyo on Jul 13, 2014 at 10:18 AM
looking good sir.. not really a fan of the ceiling fan and it might give you a problem when you go PJ route. Since the walls are painted i assume you will also put acoustic panels?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 13, 2014 at 04:50 PM
ribbon cutting by FHM models....weeeeeeeh! >:D

I think the wife might have something to say about that JH  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 13, 2014 at 05:15 PM
Good to see the primary seats aren't on the riser. You have the liberty to move them for that sweet spot. Bass on the rear seats near the wall might sound deeper but hollow during my personal tests.

Hi Gino, yes primary seats on the ground floor which gives room for adjustment. As this is my 1st proper HT room it's a case of learning by experience. I'm about to find out about bass problems soon - maybe  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 13, 2014 at 05:27 PM
looking good sir.. not really a fan of the ceiling fan and it might give you a problem when you go PJ route. Since the walls are painted i assume you will also put acoustic panels?

Thanx Photonyo, The ceiling fan was a case of do I or don't I, I decided to install it as it's a simple exercise to remove. There is an air con. unit but as they are not used in residential houses in the UK I wasn't sure of the noise implications so decided to fit both. Yes I will be fitting acoustic panels after the paintwork has been done   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jul 14, 2014 at 11:49 AM
It's classier than a stand fan. I listen best with the ac off. But for non critical sessions and movies, the ac is on. It's a good way to move air to prevent mould.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 14, 2014 at 06:55 PM
It's classier than a stand fan. I listen best with the ac off. But for non critical sessions and movies, the ac is on. It's a good way to move air to prevent mould.

Your right Gino, I also have the problem of having lived in a lot colder climate all my life. I think I'm acclimatising quite well but it remains to be seen when viewing with all the gears on   :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 14, 2014 at 07:43 PM
Stage almost complete.

Left side of stage showing the trap door to the earth rod connection.

(https://i.imgur.com/SN5uSyK.jpg)

Right side of stage almost complete.

(https://i.imgur.com/IypM77y.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 15, 2014 at 07:04 PM
Stage completed & soffit install started.

Right hand side of stage complete.

(https://i.imgur.com/fkHXszZ.jpg)

Utilizing the excess ceiling & dry wall channel for soffit support.

(https://i.imgur.com/2AAqrm9.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 16, 2014 at 09:51 PM
Slow progress, we had a brown out for half the day but managed to get some work done on the soffit support channels.

Front right corner.

(https://i.imgur.com/K7yZntD.jpg)

Front left corner.

(https://i.imgur.com/YXDh3vT.jpg)

Rear right corner.

(https://i.imgur.com/ppg4I9m.jpg)

Rear left corner.

(https://i.imgur.com/xmVCQud.jpg)

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 17, 2014 at 08:21 PM
Today underside of soffits fitted + soffit lighting conduits.

Front right

(https://i.imgur.com/wpzy4fr.jpg)

Left & rear

(https://i.imgur.com/BVaULLP.jpg)

Rear

(https://i.imgur.com/QEzdWE9.jpg)

Right

(https://i.imgur.com/sy68115.jpg)

Front & right

(https://i.imgur.com/jjdoEOS.jpg)

Left & front

(https://i.imgur.com/kIcC1bM.jpg)

Right soffit

(https://i.imgur.com/2DHXTYR.jpg)

Front soffit

(https://i.imgur.com/RDYE4nO.jpg)

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 17, 2014 at 08:36 PM
The HT room is now more looking like a building site while the soffit install is going on. We're a little nearer to final finishing, then we can paint  ;D ;D ;D
Added 3 more wall colours so as I'm hopeless with colours come on guys help me out & give your opinions, the carpet is a deep red.

All 4 colours, previous colour on the right.

(https://i.imgur.com/fvLSmbC.jpg)

The previous colour

(https://i.imgur.com/ZYLfYpO.jpg)

The 2 middle colours

(https://i.imgur.com/Eee6pXC.jpg)

Left hand colour

(https://i.imgur.com/nWHBWU9.jpg)
   
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jul 17, 2014 at 08:44 PM
I'd go with the darker of the middle colors. If that blends too much with the carpet, I'd be happy with the left most color. The right colors look pink to me. A dark grey carpet will look nice with the darker of the middle colors. I just think the wall and red carpet will be too monocromatic.

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 17, 2014 at 09:22 PM
I'd go with the darker of the middle colors. If that blends too much with the carpet, I'd be happy with the left most color. The right colors look pink to me. A dark grey carpet will look nice with the darker of the middle colors. I just think the wall and red carpet will be too monocromatic.

 Thanx for your comments Gino, The right colour has turned more pink over the last 2 days or the other colours are accenting the pink tint. I'm tending to favour the darker of the middle 2 colours (same as you) as it looks the richer texture of the 4. Unfortunately the carpet colour is set as I brought from the UK. I originally was thinking of a deep mauve for the walls but could not find a suitable colour . I'm worried about a conflict with the carpet but as I say I'm hopeless with colours, I have to see them & then decide yae or nay.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jul 17, 2014 at 09:45 PM
For me sir OBR is the one on the left in the 3rd photo :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Photonyo on Jul 17, 2014 at 09:49 PM
For me sir OBR is the one on the left in the 3rd photo :)
me too... the darker the better. with my theater color having neutral gray. it gets distracting when watching 3d movies since light is still reflecting on the walls.. so the darker the better to minimize light reflection
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Jul 17, 2014 at 10:01 PM
I'll go for 2nd from left of first pic, but have to check it visually next to carpet. Should have better colour/tone transition.

It's my first post here but I've been following this build since the beginning and it's every progress. Your project has been going smoothly and turning out very well as planned. Now that it's on final/finishing stage, careful selection of materials esp. colours are very important that should match or compliment with other finishes or furnitures. Lighting locations and fixtures (type) should be taken into consideration also.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM
I'll go for 2nd from left of first pic, but have to check it visually next to carpet. Should have better colour/tone transition.

It's my first post here but I've been following this build since the beginning and it's every progress. Your project has been going smoothly and turning out very well as planned. Now that it's on final/finishing stage, careful selection of materials esp. colours are very important that should match or compliment with other finishes or furnitures. Lighting locations and fixtures (type) should be taken into consideration also.

Thanx audiojunkie, the build has been going well, we've had a few problems but only small ones which have been sorted on the run but it's my inability to visualise colours that has caused the most problems. The location of the lighting I sorted this morning, I will find if I got it right in about 2 weeks, there is no substitute for experience. The colour you prefer is the one I'm leaning to, also Gino's preference   :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 17, 2014 at 11:10 PM
For me sir OBR is the one on the left in the 3rd photo :)

Thanx Louie, it looks as though we're all going for the same colour  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 17, 2014 at 11:15 PM
me too... the darker the better. with my theater color having neutral gray. it gets distracting when watching 3d movies since light is still reflecting on the walls.. so the darker the better to minimize light reflection

Thanx photonyo, when I saw the colours this afternoon that one hit me straight away also it's had the wife's approval   ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jul 17, 2014 at 11:28 PM
That color may still look good with the red carpet. Light plays a big role on how we see color. The floor is on a different plane so light strikes it differently from the walls.

Another color that goes well with red carpet is dark greyish green. White trim can break the wall and floor transition.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Jul 18, 2014 at 03:06 AM

White trim to break colour transition is great choice.... Dark brown also good to consider...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 18, 2014 at 09:33 AM
That color may still look good with the red carpet. Light plays a big role on how we see color. The floor is on a different plane so light strikes it differently from the walls.

Another color that goes well with red carpet is dark greyish green. White trim can break the wall and floor transition.

I had another look at the carpet (it's wrapped up outside) & it's not one solid colour but a weave using 2 different reds so may be OK but as I say I'll have to see the finished room before I can give an opinion. My interpretation of colours is rubbish, I'd never make an interior designer   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jul 18, 2014 at 09:36 AM
That should work nicely. Patterns create big contrast even with identical colors.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 18, 2014 at 09:40 AM
White trim to break colour transition is great choice.... Dark brown also good to consider...

I intend using a baseboard at the foot of the wall, was going to paint it same colour as the wall. I'm not keen on white trim but a brown is worth thinking about in the event of a colour clash.
The acoustic panels are black so we'll lose a lot of the wall colour. My thoughts are to get the acoustics right then cover the walls with fabric over the top of the panels. In the mean time i just want it to look reasonable.
Thanx for your thoughts.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 18, 2014 at 09:42 AM
That should work nicely. Patterns create big contrast even with identical colors.

Thanx Gino.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Jul 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM
Maybe you can check on bloody red and dark gray combo....like mine... :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 18, 2014 at 07:02 PM
Maybe you can check on bloody red and dark gray combo....like mine... :)

Hi JH, unfortunately the carpet colour is set, it's been wrapped up for 15 months & until I roll it out I probably won't get a proper understanding of the colour. I'm not so sure I would appreciate dark grey walls but I'm fairly open minded & will look at all options once the acoustics are sorted   :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 18, 2014 at 08:52 PM
Soffit build going well.

Right wall looking to the rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/VXuKbbF.jpg)

Left wall looking to the rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/hedyPoA.jpg)

Rear wall, my electrician busy & start of the boxing in of the air con unit.

(https://i.imgur.com/TWUJ17t.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Jul 18, 2014 at 11:18 PM
I noticed those bulkhead around, you don't intend to have small cove to run rope/LED light as added feature aside from spot light at the underside?

 The light points seem off-center from the width of bulkhead, considering also the thickness of acoustic panels + fabric cover over the panels. Or it was just visual distortion in the pictures.


I think for future upgrade/add-on, provision for projection and wide-screen mount should be considered also.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 19, 2014 at 12:53 AM
I noticed those bulkhead around, you don't intend to have small cove to run rope/LED light as added feature aside from spot light at the underside?

 The light points seem off-center from the width of bulkhead, considering also the thickness of acoustic panels + fabric cover over the panels. Or it was just visual distortion in the pictures.


I think for future upgrade/add-on, provision for projection and wide-screen mount should be considered also.

I never knew it's called bulkhead.  ;D  I also have a bulkhead in my theatre room, and as you mentioned, installed LED ropelights. You can also run speaker wires, HDMI (for PJ) etc inside the bulkhead. I also installed mirrors at the main wall behind the bulkhead. It makes the ceiling bigger plus i had some spares mirrors.  ^-^
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Jul 19, 2014 at 02:54 AM
I never knew it's called bulkhead.  ;D  I also have a bulkhead in my theatre room, and as you mentioned, installed LED ropelights. You can also run speaker wires, HDMI (for PJ) etc inside the bulkhead. I also installed mirrors at the main wall behind the bulkhead. It makes the ceiling bigger plus i had some spares mirrors.  ^-^

Bulkhead is common term used in construction as over-head structure. Other disciplines call it as drop-ceiling (simplified) which is lower than the main ceiling height.  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 19, 2014 at 07:23 AM
I noticed those bulkhead around, you don't intend to have small cove to run rope/LED light as added feature aside from spot light at the underside?

 The light points seem off-center from the width of bulkhead, considering also the thickness of acoustic panels + fabric cover over the panels. Or it was just visual distortion in the pictures.


I think for future upgrade/add-on, provision for projection and wide-screen mount should be considered also.

Well spotted audiojunkie, the lights are off center to the underside panel but in the center of the boxed in section above & the centers are 7.5" from the wall. The underside overhangs the bulkhead (I call it a soffit) by 3" & has a 2" uplift at the edge. I already have the LED rope lighting to add after decoration. I have strengthened the ceiling to take a future projector & screen mount so hopefully I've got all bases covered.
Thanx for the advice.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 19, 2014 at 07:27 AM
I never knew it's called bulkhead.  ;D  I also have a bulkhead in my theatre room, and as you mentioned, installed LED ropelights. You can also run speaker wires, HDMI (for PJ) etc inside the bulkhead. I also installed mirrors at the main wall behind the bulkhead. It makes the ceiling bigger plus i had some spares mirrors.  ^-^

I'm the same Nelson, I've always called it a soffit but bulkhead is probably a more accurate term.
Nice idea with the mirrors, I'd never of thought of that. :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jul 19, 2014 at 07:33 AM
Mirrors reflect sound perfectly. It's the opposite of wall treatment.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 19, 2014 at 07:52 AM
Mirrors reflect sound perfectly. It's the opposite of wall treatment.

It's less than 12 inches from ceiling to bulkhead.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Jul 19, 2014 at 12:34 PM
Well spotted audiojunkie, the lights are off center to the underside panel but in the center of the boxed in section above & the centers are 7.5" from the wall. The underside overhangs the bulkhead (I call it a soffit) by 3" & has a 2" uplift at the edge. I already have the LED rope lighting to add after decoration. I have strengthened the ceiling to take a future projector & screen mount so hopefully I've got all bases covered.
Thanx for the advice.

Ok if you take reference the cross section of the bulkhead from wall corner to edge. Soffit is a common term that refers to underside surface like slab or ceiling....
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jul 19, 2014 at 12:58 PM
I associate bulkhead with a vertical structure such as a panel that give form or bulk to an outer shell or hull. Examples are boats and air planes. They give bulk so to speak and establish the shell's overall shape. I don't see any bulkhead in this room.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Jul 19, 2014 at 01:20 PM
(http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/attach/4/0/5/9/7/5_Bulkhead_1293884395.jpg)

May be you can see it now..  :D

I suggest to expand your google search to...

- Bulkhead ceiling
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 19, 2014 at 08:51 PM
Ok if you take reference the cross section of the bulkhead from wall corner to edge. Soffit is a common term that refers to underside surface like slab or ceiling....

Thanks for the explanation audiojunkie, consider myself educated.   :) I am a firm believer that there is something new to learn every day.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 19, 2014 at 08:53 PM
(http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/attach/4/0/5/9/7/5_Bulkhead_1293884395.jpg)

May be you can see it now..  :D

I suggest to expand your google search to...

- Bulkhead ceiling

Big guy looks good  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 19, 2014 at 08:55 PM
Steady progress today but not enough change for photo taking. I'll post on Monday.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jul 19, 2014 at 09:14 PM
Thanks for the info audiojunkie.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Jul 20, 2014 at 08:42 PM
The HT room is now more looking like a building site while the soffit install is going on. We're a little nearer to final finishing, then we can paint  ;D ;D ;D
Added 3 more wall colours so as I'm hopeless with colours come on guys help me out & give your opinions, the carpet is a deep red.

All 4 colours, previous colour on the right.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/July1672014009_zps69214549.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/July1672014009_zps69214549.jpg.html)

The previous colour

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/July1672014010_zpscbed34f4.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/July1672014010_zpscbed34f4.jpg.html)

The 2 middle colours

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/July1672014013_zps833a9a00.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/July1672014013_zps833a9a00.jpg.html)

Left hand colour

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/July1672014012_zps57eb78c9.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/July1672014012_zps57eb78c9.jpg.html)   

Try choosing from earth tones, it will match with red carpet
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 21, 2014 at 07:27 AM
Thanx ricky
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: odyopayl on Jul 21, 2014 at 12:15 PM
Nice Theater Room Bro. Would you like a Blue instead?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 23, 2014 at 10:37 PM
Nice Theater Room Bro. Would you like a Blue instead?

Thanks for the suggestion odyopayl but I'm not a blue type of person also not so sure blue would go with the red caret   :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 23, 2014 at 10:42 PM
Updates on hold for a little while, Globes internet has been down since Saturday but no estimate on the repair date. I will update once I have internet back.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 08, 2014 at 04:45 PM
Hi guys, I'm back, for how long I don't know but fingers crossed. Work going smoothly so do a daily update.
July 23, no work was scheduled for the day so left my camera at home. Taken by surprise, the guys were cracking on when I arrived so no photos of the bulkhead/soffit in progress.
Flexible conduits for the lighting clipped to the walls & sealant used to prevent any rattles before Rockwool filling & fitting of bulkhead fascia.
23 - 31st the decorators resin filled all screw holes & joints & sanded in preparation for painting.

Flexible conduits secured.

(https://i.imgur.com/JNlvVY9.jpg)

Rear left.

(https://i.imgur.com/s9sRbDH.jpg)

Rear right.

(https://i.imgur.com/f4zQ8J1.jpg)

Front left.

(https://i.imgur.com/6BDG2sm.jpg)

Front right.

(https://i.imgur.com/AnmsKJD.jpg)

Resin filling.

(https://i.imgur.com/wCmzSzf.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 08, 2014 at 04:53 PM
Aug 1st.
1st coat of primer on the walls.

Front.

(https://i.imgur.com/Jzf8cJ1.jpg)

Rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/7NBa2hn.jpg)

Control room.

(https://i.imgur.com/U571iaF.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 08, 2014 at 05:01 PM
Aug 2nd.
Ceiling & half of the bulkhead primed, wall & ceiling defects filled.
Door frame & doors delivered.

Front & right walls.

(https://i.imgur.com/WPEXsW2.jpg)

Rear & right walls.

(https://i.imgur.com/yHnHtNX.jpg)

Door frame in position.

(https://i.imgur.com/bUQ4w2N.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 08, 2014 at 05:09 PM
Aug 3rd.
All speaker bracket mounting holes drilled.
Bulkhead priming complete.
All fillings sanded & re primed.

Front.

(https://i.imgur.com/eeEy5sN.jpg)

Rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/8ovwNLV.jpg)

Doorway.

(https://i.imgur.com/2ugGyxt.jpg)

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 08, 2014 at 05:20 PM
Aug 5th.
There will be 2 doors into the HT room leaving a 12" cavity between them. Both doors are 42mm thick & made up of 2 sheets of 15mm Mahogany & the 12mm cavity sand filled.

Test panel for me to approve the colour.

(https://i.imgur.com/KLXGbWO.jpg)

1st top coat being applied to the walls.

(https://i.imgur.com/gpKUAgy.jpg)

Outer door fitted.

(https://i.imgur.com/N3AZGng.jpg)

Inner door in the process of being stained.

(https://i.imgur.com/Wm6OvJK.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Columbia on Aug 08, 2014 at 05:28 PM
Got to comment.. The tabloid's headline made me laugh.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 08, 2014 at 05:30 PM
Aug 6th.

1st top coat applied to the ceiling & bulkhead started.

Front.

(https://i.imgur.com/LaPwZeG.jpg)

Rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/hz6AUvI.jpg)

Inner door with 1st coat of stain on outer side.

(https://i.imgur.com/sndSvCX.jpg)

1st top coat on bulkhead started.

(https://i.imgur.com/QNJ65GC.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 08, 2014 at 05:34 PM
Got to comment.. The tabloid's headline made me laugh.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hi Columbia, I haven't learned the language yet so I'll have to get the wife to translate  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 08, 2014 at 05:40 PM
Aug 7th.

I can now see the finishing line, the decorators will be finished on Sunday & the carpet is scheduled to be laid on Monday so keeping my fingers crossed.
The 1st top coat on the walls & bulkhead facia complete, 2nd top coat on the ceiling & soffit applied.

Rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/xD2PlU1.jpg)

Front.

(https://i.imgur.com/RHpiVDk.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 08, 2014 at 05:46 PM
All up to date guys.
The base board is being fitted today so will be painted over the weekend.
Haven't been on site today as it's my birthday & I've been preparing for tonight's celebration. Managed to update the thread while the wife is collecting some of the food.    ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: mbtorn on Aug 08, 2014 at 05:54 PM
Happy Birthday OBR! And your HT build is looking great as you head to the finish line...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: beringin on Aug 08, 2014 at 05:55 PM
All up to date guys.
The base board is being fitted today so will be painted over the weekend.
Haven't been on site today as it's my birthday & I've been preparing for tonight's celebration. Managed to update the thread while the wife is collecting some of the food.    ;D

Happy birthday OBR. Have a blast.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Aug 08, 2014 at 06:10 PM
Happy Birthday OBR! Cheers!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Aug 08, 2014 at 06:12 PM
HBD OBR!!! ^-^
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Aug 08, 2014 at 06:38 PM
Lasingan na OBR! >:D

More BDAY to come!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 08, 2014 at 07:35 PM
Happy birthday OBR! More blessings to come!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 08, 2014 at 07:52 PM
Have a Great Day... OBR!   O0


Inner door with 1st coat of stain on outer side.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Aug62014004_zpsd7b37019.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Aug62014004_zpsd7b37019.jpg.html)

Atypical door panel design...  ^-^
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Narayan on Aug 08, 2014 at 10:40 PM
Happy birthday OBR ;). Many more to come!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: larokulit on Aug 09, 2014 at 03:21 AM
Happy birthday OBR!
Thanks for sharing your HT build -- it's amazing to see it taking shape.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Aug 09, 2014 at 06:39 AM
Happy Bday sir.....kaabang abang talaga yang kueba  8)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: redstarrising on Aug 09, 2014 at 08:21 AM
congrats! OBR its almost close to room readiness. :) ;). nice color combination.  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Aug 09, 2014 at 08:36 AM
Two doors. Very serious room. Looking very good.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 12:05 PM
Happy Birthday OBR! And your HT build is looking great as you head to the finish line...

Thanks mbtorn, I'm very pleased with the way it's turning out.   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 12:11 PM
beringin, DTNS, Louie_18, jh, nerveblocker, Narayan, sovrain - thank you for for the birthday wishes guys, hopefully I'll have many more.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: tonedeaf on Aug 09, 2014 at 12:15 PM
Happy birthday! And your HT room is looking good :) (I'll leave the technical comments to you guys who know better hahaha)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 12:15 PM
Have a Great Day... OBR!   O0

Atypical door panel design...  ^-^

Thanks audiojunkie.
I've been used to plain doors in the UK which tend to be rather boring, these type of designs are new to me & look quite good.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 12:18 PM
Happy birthday OBR!
Thanks for sharing your HT build -- it's amazing to see it taking shape.

Thanks larokulit, to be honest it's turning out better than I thought.   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 12:22 PM
congrats! OBR its almost close to room readiness. :) ;). nice color combination.  :)

Thanks redstarrising, I never thought I would have chosen a red colour (blues & reds are not me) but it's grown on me. Can't wait to get to site today to see the room with a bit more depth to the colour.   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 12:25 PM
Two doors. Very serious room. Looking very good.

Thanks Gino, I decided on 2 doors for the soundproofing also a good way to take up the 15" between the HT & lounge wall surfaces.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 12:26 PM
Happy birthday! And your HT room is looking good :) (I'll leave the technical comments to you guys who know better hahaha)

Thank you Ma'm  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Frankthetank on Aug 09, 2014 at 12:45 PM
Happy Birthday OBR!

Nice HT setup...looking forward for more!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Aug 09, 2014 at 01:42 PM
Happy Birthday, bro!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: dodie on Aug 09, 2014 at 02:10 PM
I never thought I would have chosen a red colour (blues & reds are not me) but it's grown on me. Can't wait to get to site today to see the room with a bit more depth to the colour.   ;D

red is nice sir. mine is red and im loving it. :D :D :D :D
happi bday sir and wish you many more ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Aug 09, 2014 at 02:37 PM
Thanks for the heads up Gino, I haven't been seeing a lot of news or weather reports, best I start looking.
Latest photo of the house taken 2 days ago.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/May82014008_zps7dc100b4.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/May82014008_zps7dc100b4.jpg.html)

Nice Build sir OBR.. im amazed. Been reading it from the first post to the end..Nice view too.. this must be somewhere in Liloan...I miss the place.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 08:21 PM
Happy Birthday OBR!

Nice HT setup...looking forward for more!

Thanks Frankthetank, getting a little excited at finally being able to set up my gears   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 08:22 PM
Happy Birthday, bro!

Cheers Jen.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 08:26 PM
red is nice sir. mine is red and im loving it. :D :D :D :D
happi bday sir and wish you many more ;)

Thanks dodie, when I looked at Gino's red room I didn't consider red for mine but the colour has grown on me, just proves tastes change with time.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: xgh0st12x on Aug 09, 2014 at 08:29 PM
Congrats on all the progress made and happy birthday!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 08:34 PM
Nice Build sir OBR.. im amazed. Been reading it from the first post to the end..Nice view too.. this must be somewhere in Liloan...I miss the place.

Hi Jeff, thanks for the like. I take it you come from Lilo-An. You're quite right, I am now a Lilo-An resident   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 08:35 PM
Congrats on all the progress made and happy birthday!

Thanks ghost.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 09, 2014 at 08:42 PM
Got to comment.. The tabloid's headline made me laugh.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hi Columbia, after the wife's translation yes a little apt, I had a chuckle myself  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Aug 09, 2014 at 08:43 PM
Where's the bloody cake?  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Aug 09, 2014 at 09:01 PM
Hi Jeff, thanks for the like. I take it you come from Lilo-An. You're quite right, I am now a Lilo-An resident   ;D ;D ;D

I have worked for 8 years in Danao ( 2 towns north of Liloan ) but have relocated here in Manila.. by the way Happy bday ...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 10, 2014 at 08:11 AM
Where's the bloody cake?  >:D >:D >:D

Too late jh, all eaten, both of them. The locals definitely have a sweet tooth, I've never seen cake disappear so quickly   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 10, 2014 at 08:13 AM
I have worked for 8 years in Danao ( 2 towns north of Liloan ) but have relocated here in Manila.. by the way Happy bday ...

Thanks jeff, yes I know Danao, been through a couple of times heading for the beach.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 12, 2014 at 10:48 AM
Sunday Aug. 10th
The decorators desperately trying to complete the paintwork today - it's not going to happen.
Modified the seat riser steps to have a side nosing to make it easier for the carpet fitter.

Painting the baseboard.

(https://i.imgur.com/Fb1acyE.jpg)

Right wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/SIfqKHO.jpg)

Left wall.

(https://i.imgur.com/d3UqsHM.jpg)

Side nosing on right step.

(https://i.imgur.com/2yF76q9.jpg)

Side nosing on left step.

(https://i.imgur.com/UdA7gCQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 12, 2014 at 11:06 AM
Monday Aug. 11th.
All carpet gripper fitted. We had a little distraction when we unwrapped the carpet out popped a rat & we spent 5 minutes chasing it around the HT room. Luckily the carpet is undamaged but a little dirty but cleanable.
Still a little painting & door finishing to do.

Carpet dragged into the HT room.

(https://i.imgur.com/x8gNpDz.jpg)

Finishing touches being done to the baseboard.

(https://i.imgur.com/fXmcPL2.jpg)

Stage underlay laid.

(https://i.imgur.com/OSZK335.jpg)

Finished paintwork - front.

(https://i.imgur.com/el7tUbH.jpg)

Center section of carpet cut - right hand side.

(https://i.imgur.com/EWx0fqV.jpg)

Center section of carpet cut - left hand side.

(https://i.imgur.com/Be2SKBb.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: olrac on Aug 12, 2014 at 12:26 PM
Nice... congrats on the progress
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 12, 2014 at 02:40 PM
Great progress...   8)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 12, 2014 at 06:32 PM
Nice... congrats on the progress

Thanks olrac.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 12, 2014 at 06:33 PM
Great progress...   8)

Thanks audiojunkie.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Aug 12, 2014 at 06:39 PM
looking good OBR! finally, the gears will be set up soon and that's the next thing to look forward to. congrats! ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 12, 2014 at 06:56 PM
Tuesday Aug. 12th.

Carpet now laid, I'll take some better photos tomorrow after I've cleared up & fitted the speaker brackets. Apologies for the lack of light in the 1st 2 photos, can't understand what happened.

Right seat riser step.

(https://i.imgur.com/nXLxohJ.jpg)

Left seat riser step.

(https://i.imgur.com/lE6NdWE.jpg)

Seat riser - covered to keep clean untill the decorators have finished.

(https://i.imgur.com/igowb5e.jpg)

Right hand side of stage.

(https://i.imgur.com/CZjZybe.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 12, 2014 at 07:03 PM
looking good OBR! finally, the gears will be set up soon and that's the next thing to look forward to. congrats! ;D

Thanx nolax, I'll be having a little break as from next week, going to have a holiday before the house is completed. HT will be on hold till we return so I've got 6 days to cram in as much as I can   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 14, 2014 at 08:08 AM
Wednesday Aug. 13th
Things didn't go quite to plan today, arrived on site to find the door makers modifying the HT door frame. They made the allowance for the rubber sealing strip on the wrong faces of the frame, more work for the decorators. That coupled with the baseboard repairs (over zealous fitting of the carpet gripper) means the HT room will be complete this weekend except for the electrics & air con. unit. Monday will be my last day before we have our holiday so hopefully fit the speaker brackets then & maybe the front high speakers. I managed to clean the carpet except for the seat riser which is covered due to the work being done on the door frame. I also cleaned the cables, I made the mistake of not keeping the cables covered all the time. It was not so much the sanding dust but sealant that was plastered on them but all OK now.
In case anyone is wondering what the hole in the middle of the seat riser front face is for, it will house the power supply for the LED step lighting & will be covered by a black grille.
The orange flexible conduit underneath the screen mount is the cable for the door bell light/buzzer or both (haven't decided yet. In case we're all in the HT I thought we ought to have some notification of visitors  :)

Stage - right hand side.

(https://i.imgur.com/npm9gVc.jpg)

Stage - left hand side.

(https://i.imgur.com/kC4CGnm.jpg)

Looking towards right seat riser steps from the stage.

(https://i.imgur.com/fW1mRjG.jpg)

Looking towards left seat riser steps from the stage.

(https://i.imgur.com/PHqWtyC.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Aug 14, 2014 at 08:25 AM
WOW! Oh So Red!  :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Aug 14, 2014 at 08:27 AM
Very nice! Looking good...and now more exciting!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 14, 2014 at 08:32 AM
WOW! Oh So Red!  :D

Hi Nolax, for me just enough contrast between the 2 reds to be acceptable  ;D.
A comment from the wife "this would look good in the bedroom". Whatever have I let myself in for ?   >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 14, 2014 at 08:37 AM
Very nice! Looking good...and now more exciting!

Thanx Jen, I was well excited yesterday, I thought I could get all the speaker brackets fitted but they'll have to wait a couple of days. At this stage I didn't want to take a holiday but need to get a break in before the house is complete. I didn't like the idea of leaving all the gears in the house before the security system was up & running.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 14, 2014 at 08:49 AM
Before anyone passes comment, no I haven't gone into competition with Gino's red room   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Aug 14, 2014 at 09:02 AM
Before anyone passes comment, no I haven't gone into competition with Gino's red room   ;D ;D ;D
for me, I don't think it that way cause we got same color selection sir, I got a red wall too, even my car and motorcycle are red ;D  8) ganda talaga ng red room mo...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 14, 2014 at 01:27 PM
Before anyone passes comment, no I haven't gone into competition with Gino's red room   ;D ;D ;D


Says who?  >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: larokulit on Aug 14, 2014 at 04:50 PM
OBR, I know you have acoustic treatment inside those walls but I was under the impression that the final layer will be acoustic panels or fabric like what I usually see here in the gallery section.

Would the gypsum board have the same effect as fabric?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 14, 2014 at 07:14 PM
for me, I don't think it that way cause we got same color selection sir, I got a red wall too, even my car and motorcycle are red ;D  8) ganda talaga ng red room mo...

Hi sovrain, it was meant as a bit of a joke  ;D ;D ;D. having spent a bit of time in the room I think my colour tastes may have changed. I just hope my listening tastes haven't changed otherwise I'll be on the upgrade trail sooner than I thought    >:D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 14, 2014 at 07:15 PM

Says who?  >:D

Me  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 14, 2014 at 07:23 PM
OBR, I know you have acoustic treatment inside those walls but I was under the impression that the final layer will be acoustic panels or fabric like what I usually see here in the gallery section.

Would the gypsum board have the same effect as fabric?

Hi larokulit, there is no acoustic treatment inside the walls it's all soundproofing. The acoustic panels will be fitted to the walls & once I am happy I will have the walls fabric covered on top of the panels.
Gypsum board will reflect sound but acoustic fabric will allow sound to pass through. Hope that answers your question.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Narayan on Aug 14, 2014 at 09:08 PM
Almost there OBR 8). Talk about walking on RED carpet ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 14, 2014 at 10:09 PM
The acoustic panels will be fitted to the walls & once I am happy I will have the walls fabric covered on top of the panels.
Gypsum board will reflect sound but acoustic fabric will allow sound to pass through. Hope that answers your question.

I want to make a wild guess re fabric color!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 14, 2014 at 11:25 PM
Almost there OBR 8). Talk about walking on RED carpet ;D

As you say almost there but will be taking a break next week.
I'll be able to walk the carpet every day  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 14, 2014 at 11:26 PM
I want to make a wild guess re fabric color!!!!  ;D

To be honest Nelson I haven't really thought about it but who knows  :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 14, 2014 at 11:33 PM
I want to make a wild guess re fabric color!!!!  ;D

Dark brown.... or red/brown combi....
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 15, 2014 at 01:25 AM
looking good! :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 15, 2014 at 09:11 AM
Dark brown.... or red/brown combi....

Sounds OK to me, I'll be doing a bit more research this time. I know an interior designer & I'll probably get her to put together a few colour schemes for me to look at but all suggestions are welcome, they'll give me food for thought.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 15, 2014 at 09:12 AM
looking good! :)

Thanx Jammy, it feels like a proper room now  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Aug 15, 2014 at 09:16 AM
Looking very good. A lot of thought put into the room.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 16, 2014 at 09:28 AM
Looking very good. A lot of thought put into the room.

Thanx Gino, I'm really pleased with the way it's turned out considering it's a 1st time effort. It's also been a big learning curve. Probably the the biggest mistake was not researching materials availability here, had I known the difficulties I would have shipped some of the materials from the UK. Still that's all in the past & now looking forward to completing the room & reaping the benefits of my efforts   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: larokulit on Aug 16, 2014 at 10:42 PM
Hi larokulit, there is no acoustic treatment inside the walls it's all soundproofing. The acoustic panels will be fitted to the walls & once I am happy I will have the walls fabric covered on top of the panels.
Gypsum board will reflect sound but acoustic fabric will allow sound to pass through. Hope that answers your question.

Right -- that's what I thought.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 16, 2014 at 10:45 PM
 
Right -- that's what I thought.

 :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 16, 2014 at 11:18 PM
Hi larokulit, there is no acoustic treatment inside the walls it's all soundproofing. The acoustic panels will be fitted to the walls & once I am happy I will have the walls fabric covered on top of the panels.
Gypsum board will reflect sound but acoustic fabric will allow sound to pass through. Hope that answers your question.

Can I add more... The soundproofing inside the wall is also part of the acoustic treatment, it's main function is to decouple the room from  adjacent rooms or areas. The acoustic panel types also varies depending on specific location required for treatment it's either peak or dip of certain frequency that needs attenuation or diffusion ..
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 17, 2014 at 08:24 AM
Can I add more... The soundproofing inside the wall is also part of the acoustic treatment, it's main function is to decouple the room from  adjacent rooms or areas. The acoustic panel types also varies depending on specific location required for treatment it's either peak or dip of certain frequency that needs attenuation or diffusion ..

Thanx for the information audiojunkie.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Aug 17, 2014 at 10:10 AM
Malapit na!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 17, 2014 at 10:18 AM
Malapit na!

 ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 17, 2014 at 10:35 AM
RED CARPET.... i guess only celeb can step on those hehe
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 17, 2014 at 11:20 PM
RED CARPET.... i guess only celeb can step on those hehe

I think that's maybe what the wife thinks   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Aug 18, 2014 at 09:46 AM
Well it's going to be a premiere each time you guys watch a movie.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 18, 2014 at 10:11 AM
Well it's going to be a premiere each time you guys watch a movie.

Premier or honeymoon?  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 18, 2014 at 05:22 PM
Well it's going to be a premiere each time you guys watch a movie.

I think it's going to feel a bit that way Gino but like all things we'll probably get used to it  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 18, 2014 at 05:23 PM
Premier or honeymoon?  ;D

Steady Nelson, that will give the wife ideas   ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 18, 2014 at 07:07 PM
Sunday Aug. 17th

Fitted all the speaker brackets less the base plates & also the screen bracket. Inspected all the decor so it can all be sorted by the time I return.

Screen brackets & retouching started.

(https://i.imgur.com/4lLihQ3.jpg)

Left high.

(https://i.imgur.com/MOZvcud.jpg)

Right high.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y9GsuDY.jpg)

Right rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/tTfL564.jpg)

Left rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/4Suv3ra.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 18, 2014 at 07:20 PM
Monday Aug. 18th.

Soffit lights fitted & tested, daylight on the front & all others warm white. I may have to change the fronts as it makes the wall a little pink. Original thought was to have the brightest light at the front for working on the equipment but I'll have do a bit of testing as it doesn' look quite right.
Apologies for the quality of the photos, I'll have to use a tripod when not using the flash.

Lights fitted.

(https://i.imgur.com/v4lTL3I.jpg)

Front.

(https://i.imgur.com/wU2uXeP.jpg)

Left.

(https://i.imgur.com/eQPiFm2.jpg)

Right.

(https://i.imgur.com/WSd2c3T.jpg)

Rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/LfQiXS5.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 18, 2014 at 07:32 PM
Well that's it for 3 weeks guys, apart from the decorating & the rest of the electrical work + air con. unit. Hopefully when I return I'll be be able to start setting up all the gears  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: larokulit on Aug 18, 2014 at 07:46 PM
Woot!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 18, 2014 at 07:55 PM
Woot!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Aug 19, 2014 at 01:41 AM
More BEERS!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 19, 2014 at 09:56 AM
More BEERS!

Yup, many more   >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 25, 2014 at 04:28 PM
red is nice sir. mine is red and im loving it. :D :D :D :D
happi bday sir and wish you many more ;)

Belated thanks BOYKAPE I missed your post.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 01, 2014 at 06:56 PM
Latest addition - finally, Anti-Mode 2.0 Dual core.
Can't wait to get back & start setting up the gears.

Front.

(https://i.imgur.com/lp9yqJZ.jpg)

Rear

(https://i.imgur.com/HFrWMxS.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeffry10 on Sep 01, 2014 at 08:46 PM
that looks nice :). can you set the target frequency response of your system ?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: tonedeaf on Sep 01, 2014 at 10:44 PM
Latest addition - finally, Anti-Mode 2.0 Dual core.
Can't wait to get back & start setting up the gears.


I've no idea what that is for, since I can only recognize "USB DAC", but it looks impressive. So I will just say wow!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 02, 2014 at 03:09 AM
that looks nice :). can you set the target frequency response of your system ?

Hi toyfactor, yes it's a nice piece of kit & used mainly to counteract room resonances. It can be used as a high quality DAC & pre amp but I will use for room correction only. It can store 4 separate profiles each one is user adjustable so it is possible to have 4 listening positions or have different profiles for audio listening & film watching. It also has a wide area optimization for a larger sweet spot & has a small screen to show the room response after calibration.
What it shouldn't be used for is trying to correct destructive reflection nulls.
I'm still reading the manual to find out what features I will use.  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 02, 2014 at 03:17 AM
I've no idea what that is for, since I can only recognize "USB DAC", but it looks impressive. So I will just say wow!

Hi tonedeaf, it's a DAC, a pre amp & room correction device. My single channel unit that looks after my HT subwoofer works very well so I have high hopes for this unit on my audio system.  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 07, 2014 at 06:23 AM
Having decided to try DIY power leads I have elected to use UK 3 pin plugs as they are fusible & will probably order the Weiduka AC8.8 power strip from sir Obet.

(https://i.imgur.com/HWHL00y.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeffry10 on Sep 07, 2014 at 01:26 PM
if they're fusable.. get nice fuses ! :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 07, 2014 at 06:39 PM
if they're fusable.. get nice fuses ! :D

Hi toyfactor, they are supplied with silver plated fuses.   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 07, 2014 at 06:44 PM
Hey OBR! Let us know if there are latency issues (analog to digital & back to analog) with regards to the anti-mode.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Photonyo on Sep 08, 2014 at 01:04 AM
Hey OBR! Let us know if there are latency issues (analog to digital & back to analog) with regards to the anti-mode.
Also OBR where did you get the intimode and for how much? i was thinking of getting that or the older svs sub eq  >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 08, 2014 at 01:30 AM
Hey OBR! Let us know if there are latency issues (analog to digital & back to analog) with regards to the anti-mode.

Will do Nelson. I shall be using analog (balanced in & outs) as I already have an on board DAC in my CD player.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 08, 2014 at 01:41 AM
Also OBR where did you get the intimode and for how much? i was thinking of getting that or the older svs sub eq  >:D

I bought it in the UK Photonyo £680 which is around P49,000.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 08, 2014 at 01:50 AM
Also OBR where did you get the intimode and for how much? i was thinking of getting that or the older svs sub eq  >:D

My supplier was BK Electronics - they ship worldwide.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Photonyo on Sep 08, 2014 at 01:58 AM
I bought it in the UK Photonyo £680 which is around P49,000.
gulp  :-[ never mind hehe expensive.. i guess "I love my setup, i love my setup" is my mantra for this month  ::)

Congrats
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 08, 2014 at 03:17 PM
gulp  :-[ never mind hehe expensive.. i guess "I love my setup, i love my setup" is my mantra for this month  ::)

Congrats

Thanks Photonyo, pity it's out of your price range.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 11, 2014 at 07:01 AM
Hi guys, holiday over now back to the serious stuff.
Equipment consul has been installed, not too happy with the build so I've called my supplier back in to sort it out. Air con. unit will be fitted today but still waiting for the grille that will cover it. Photos will be difficult over the next few days as quite a few items have been moved back into the room so difficult to get some decent shots. Also the carpet is now quite dirty so not very happy about that. I'll get the A/C install out of the way & then have a good clean up before I start transferring the gears.
As they say, watch this space   ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 11, 2014 at 08:41 AM
gulp  :-[ never mind hehe expensive.. i guess "I love my setup, i love my setup" is my mantra for this month  ::)

Congrats

Do you need a parametric EQ for your sub duties ba?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Photonyo on Sep 11, 2014 at 01:51 PM
Do you need a parametric EQ for your sub duties ba?
Sir Nelson i think i do.. was considering the lower models of OBRs Antimode or SVS subEQ.

Sir OBR yes your page is the one i check first for updates :) keep em up :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 11, 2014 at 11:01 PM
Sir Nelson i think i do.. was considering the lower models of OBRs Antimode or SVS subEQ.

Sir OBR yes your page is the one i check first for updates :) keep em up :)

Thanks for the vote of confidence Photonyo   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 13, 2014 at 05:13 PM
Update Sept 13th.
Air con. unit installed & tested. Equipment rack returned & now to my satisfaction. I'll be cleaning up tomorrow & will take photos.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Sep 13, 2014 at 05:44 PM
I'm excited for this room.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 13, 2014 at 06:12 PM
Update Sept 13th.
Air con. unit installed & tested. Equipment rack returned & now to my satisfaction. I'll be cleaning up tomorrow & will take photos.

this is it!  woooooooohoooooooo!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 13, 2014 at 06:18 PM
I'm excited for this room.

Me too Gino, I shall be spending long days on site now until the system is up & running   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 13, 2014 at 06:37 PM
this is it!  woooooooohoooooooo!

My sentiment entirely sir Jake. I'm not one for getting excited & usually take things in my stride but this time things are different. I can only put it down to being a creation from ground up & yes I have to admit I am now getting a little excited   :) :) :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 15, 2014 at 08:56 PM
Sept. 15 Photo update :-

Equipment rack from the right.

(https://i.imgur.com/v1A7EAE.jpg)

Equipment rack from left.

(https://i.imgur.com/9q15P9I.jpg)

Air con. unit.

(https://i.imgur.com/pUHUnr0.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 15, 2014 at 09:04 PM
Looking at the equipment rack pictures the details are hard to see, it will probably look a little better when the gears are in but in the meantime I'll get some extra lighting in the room tomorrow & see if I can get some better shots.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: xgh0st12x on Sep 15, 2014 at 10:01 PM
I like the equipment rack. Did you have your guys custom build it? Or is it available locally?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 15, 2014 at 11:12 PM
I like the equipment rack. Did you have your guys custom build it? Or is it available locally?

Hi ghost, it was custom built by my kitchen unit and closet maker.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 16, 2014 at 12:55 PM

I suggest to have lighting behind the rack for easy cable plugging or unplugging gears ...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Sep 16, 2014 at 01:21 PM
I suggest to have lighting behind the rack for easy cable plugging or unplugging gears ...
+1...whenever I change/switch cables, naghahanap ako ng flashlight, now I know, oonga naman, makapaglagay nga rin ako :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 16, 2014 at 02:13 PM
I would paint the A/C to a color that would match your room.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 16, 2014 at 06:09 PM
I suggest to have lighting behind the rack for easy cable plugging or unplugging gears ...

I've checked out the rear of the rack & with the daylight lamps at the front I can see OK but if I change them I'll have to fit lighting at the rear. Thanks for the suggestion audiojunkie.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 16, 2014 at 06:12 PM
I would paint the A/C to a color that would match your room.

Hi Nelson, I did try & get a black unit but unsuccessful, the space that the A/C is in will be covered with a black grille - one of the many things I'm waiting for.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 16, 2014 at 10:44 PM
A few more photos showing more detail.

From right.

(https://i.imgur.com/2ve8dUb.jpg)

From left.

(https://i.imgur.com/HxIUHLQ.jpg)

Elevated view from right showing angled center section for center speaker.

(https://i.imgur.com/MtrFGW5.jpg)

Right side again with a bit more light.

(https://i.imgur.com/4MLrqOj.jpg)

Front on view.

(https://i.imgur.com/iXAtadt.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 16, 2014 at 11:40 PM
I've checked out the rear of the rack & with the daylight lamps at the front I can see OK but if I change them I'll have to fit lighting at the rear. Thanks for the suggestion audiojunkie.

You're welcome, OBR..  yes, with empty shelves more light will pass thru it. Once you put gears in place, sometimes it's difficult to spot on the correct connection. Toslink is one of the hard to find the right orientation.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 17, 2014 at 09:29 AM
You're welcome, OBR..  yes, with empty shelves more light will pass thru it. Once you put gears in place, sometimes it's difficult to spot on the correct connection. Toslink is one of the hard to find the right orientation.

You're right there audiojunkie, I've had a few fights with Toslink connections in the past  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Sep 17, 2014 at 09:40 AM
Very nice! Exciting times...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 17, 2014 at 06:15 PM
Very nice! Exciting times...

Yes Jen exciting it is, I've been installing the LED rope lights today, half way though & will post piccies when I've got them up & running.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Sep 21, 2014 at 11:39 AM
I hope things are ok there, Oldboyracer.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 21, 2014 at 11:54 PM
I hope things are ok there, Oldboyracer.

Yes all OK, thanks Gino. I've been installing the LED rope lights & cable trunking to the rear of the rack. Also found white primer & black paint on the carpet so have been spending a lot of time trying to remove it. Noticed today that the door frame has moved & cracked the joint around the frame, that will be redone with flexible filler. I won't start installing the gears until the HT room is finished properly & I can lock the door. I'm looking to install the acoustic panels in about 2 weeks so it's getting close   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 22, 2014 at 12:50 PM

It would be better to do first the acoustic panels installation before the gears...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Sep 22, 2014 at 01:50 PM
Yes all OK, thanks Gino. I've been installing the LED rope lights & cable trunking to the rear of the rack. Also found white primer & black paint on the carpet so have been spending a lot of time trying to remove it. Noticed today that the door frame has moved & cracked the joint around the frame, that will be redone with flexible filler. I won't start installing the gears until the HT room is finished properly & I can lock the door. I'm looking to install the acoustic panels in about 2 weeks so it's getting close   ;D

Bro, what brand are your rope lights? Where did you source them and how much? Thanks!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 22, 2014 at 02:21 PM
Bro, what brand are your rope lights? Where did you source them and how much? Thanks!

You can check out the LED rope lights here in Davao Jen.  Sa Bajada, near Metro Hospital, may Korean company selling all sorts of LED lights..
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Sep 22, 2014 at 02:23 PM
You can check out the LED rope lights here in Davao Jen.  Sa Bajada, near Metro Hospital, may Korean company selling all sorts of LED lights..

Thanks doc! Metro Hospital?? Not familiar...Will research. I'll PM. Thanks!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 22, 2014 at 11:21 PM
It would be better to do first the acoustic panels installation before the gears...

Your quite right audiojunkie but as I have someone installing the acoustic panels we will have a sound test after the install, the panels will be fitted using Velcro so no dust or mess.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 22, 2014 at 11:25 PM
Bro, what brand are your rope lights? Where did you source them and how much? Thanks!

Hi Jen, got the rope lights from Wilcon I will have to find the receipt but I think around P4,500 for a 5 meter length. I didn't do very much research, I saw them & just bought for convenience.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM
LED rope lights now up & running, cabling still to be tidied up.

Front with soffit lights on. Apologies for the unsteady hand - flash off.

(https://i.imgur.com/siFdzbm.jpg)

LED lights only.

(https://i.imgur.com/vN2UNfH.jpg)

Power supplies & controllers next to he air con.

(https://i.imgur.com/83gyVgI.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM

Nice lights...  I think you have some tidying up to do at the last pic or it will be covered with something..
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 22, 2014 at 11:55 PM
Nice lights...  I think you have some tidying up to do at the last pic or it will be covered with something..

Thanks audiojunkie, the open section will be covered with a black grille which is well overdue & the cables will be tidied up before the grille is fitted. Actually the lighting looks better in real life than in the photos I will have to decide whether it's the camera or my eyes telling lies   :-\ :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 23, 2014 at 12:02 AM
Probably too much light emphasis?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Sep 23, 2014 at 12:30 AM
"Leave me alone. I know what I'm doing." - Kimi Raikkonen
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Sep 23, 2014 at 12:33 AM
Congrats!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Sep 23, 2014 at 08:21 AM
LED rope lights now up & running, cabling still to be tidied up.

Front with soffit lights on. Apologies for the unsteady hand - flash off.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Sept222014002_zps7de08978.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Sept222014002_zps7de08978.jpg.html)

LED lights only.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Sept222014003_zpsaf7298c1.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Sept222014003_zpsaf7298c1.jpg.html)

Power supplies & controllers next to he air con.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Sept222014005_zpsc6f2ed3d.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Sept222014005_zpsc6f2ed3d.jpg.html)
anak ng....mauubos ang laway ko nito sa kakalunok, ha ha ha....very nice boss....
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Sep 23, 2014 at 09:12 AM
Looking slick, Oldboyracer.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 23, 2014 at 09:54 AM
Probably too much light emphasis?

Your probably right Nelson, I have noticed that the shots I took with the flash do not show the LED lighting.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 23, 2014 at 09:55 AM
"Leave me alone. I know what I'm doing." - Kimi Raikkonen

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 23, 2014 at 09:55 AM
Congrats!

Thanks Jen.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 23, 2014 at 09:57 AM
Looking slick, Oldboyracer.

Thanks Gino.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Sep 23, 2014 at 10:46 AM
loving the neon lights! :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 23, 2014 at 11:11 AM
Your probably right Nelson, I have noticed that the shots I took with the flash do not show the LED lighting.

But the color combination on the soffit lights are superb! Are those multiple rope lights or single with changing hues?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 23, 2014 at 12:46 PM
loving the neon lights! :D

Thanks DTNS, they're LED not neon.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 23, 2014 at 12:56 PM
But the color combination on the soffit lights are superb! Are those multiple rope lights or single with changing hues?

I thought the colour was quite good as well, turned out better than I expected. There are 4 x 5 M rope lights each one has 6 colours, I have them set to blue at the moment. They can be set to rotate the colours, flash the same colour or steady. The colour combination is due to the reflection off the ceiling (black) & vertical section of soffit bulkhead (red).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 23, 2014 at 06:16 PM
I thought the colour was quite good as well, turned out better than I expected. There are 4 x 5 M rope lights each one has 6 colours, I have them set to blue at the moment. They can be set to rotate the colours, flash the same colour or steady. The colour combination is due to the reflection off the ceiling (black) & vertical section of soffit bulkhead (red).

Wow! I should get one of those in the near future! Was it a local purchase?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 23, 2014 at 08:15 PM
Wow! I should get one of those in the near future! Was it a local purchase?

Hi Nelson, got the LED lights in Wilcon Depot. There must be a branch close to you, just checked 22 branches in Luzon.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: stevesonk on Sep 24, 2014 at 12:42 AM
LED rope lights now up & running, cabling still to be tidied up.

Front with soffit lights on. Apologies for the unsteady hand - flash off.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Sept222014002_zps7de08978.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Sept222014002_zps7de08978.jpg.html)

LED lights only.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Sept222014003_zpsaf7298c1.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Sept222014003_zpsaf7298c1.jpg.html)

Power supplies & controllers next to he air con.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Sept222014005_zpsc6f2ed3d.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Sept222014005_zpsc6f2ed3d.jpg.html)
ANG DANDA...!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeffry10 on Sep 24, 2014 at 04:33 AM
looks nice :). congrats obr :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 24, 2014 at 07:53 AM
Hi Nelson, got the LED lights in Wilcon Depot. There must be a branch close to you, just checked 22 branches in Luzon.

Ok will do. Does it automatically change colors? I plan to use it as a mood light.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 24, 2014 at 10:05 AM
Ok will do. Does it automatically change colors? I plan to use it as a mood light.

There is a supplied remote to step through different modes & one of them does automatically rotate the colours.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 24, 2014 at 10:08 AM
looks nice :). congrats obr :).

Thanks toyfactor.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 24, 2014 at 10:18 AM
ANG DANDA...!!!   ;)

Thanks stevesonk.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Frankthetank on Sep 26, 2014 at 11:26 AM
man! drool mode.... lol!

"what do you do? and how do you do it?"

  -Chris Gardner asking a sports car owner, from the movie Pursuit of Happyness.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 26, 2014 at 02:21 PM
So there will be a new 5 seater cinema soon to open in Cebu exclusive for pinoydvd members. Woohoo!

"That's the way to do it!"

Maybe you should write a book "Home Theater Done Right" (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 26, 2014 at 05:55 PM
man! drool mode.... lol!

"what do you do? and how do you do it?"

  -Chris Gardner asking a sports car owner, from the movie Pursuit of Happyness.

Thanks for the drool Frank - "pursuit of happiness", another way to describe our obsession   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 26, 2014 at 05:58 PM
So there will be a new 5 seater cinema soon to open in Cebu exclusive for pinoydvd members. Woohoo!

"That's the way to do it!"

Maybe you should write a book "Home Theater Done Right" (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif)

Hi Doc, no 6 seater + the floor space. If I've got it right any book would be "How lucky was I"   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 27, 2014 at 06:50 AM
Hi Doc, no 6 seater + the floor space. If I've got it right any book would be "How lucky was I"   :)

Ah ok a 6 seater. So at least you have a place to sit when I bring 4 of my friends there. (https://s.yimg.com/pu/emoticon/v2/4.gif)

Have you done this setup before in UK? Or is it easier to do it here in PI because of the cheaper labor costs and materials? Either way dreams come true in the Philippines. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 27, 2014 at 08:42 AM
Ah ok a 6 seater. So at least you have a place to sit when I bring 4 of my friends there. (https://s.yimg.com/pu/emoticon/v2/4.gif)

Have you done this setup before in UK? Or is it easier to do it here in PI because of the cheaper labor costs and materials? Either way dreams come true in the Philippines. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif)

Have no fear Doc I will always have somewhere to sit  ;D ;D ;D

In the UK it's normal to buy a ready built house new or pre owned. To build as I am doing now would be cost prohibitive so as you say much cheaper labour costs & materials. Yes my dream has come true in more ways than one   ;D >:D ;D >:D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 27, 2014 at 10:10 PM
Rear views of the equipment rack, showing the speaker cable & interconnect trunkings.

From the right.

(https://i.imgur.com/0YZQaL3.jpg)

From the left.

(https://i.imgur.com/HEngujr.jpg)

From the above.

(https://i.imgur.com/l3toExx.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: edwn1220 on Sep 27, 2014 at 11:28 PM
^ Now that's what I call cable management- very neat and organized! 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 28, 2014 at 08:29 AM
^ Now that's what I call cable management- very neat and organized! 8) 8) 8)

Thanks edwn, my early background of installation coming through  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jjohnc on Sep 29, 2014 at 01:50 PM
Go for ATOMS setup brother ,...great JOB!  :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 29, 2014 at 07:26 PM
Go for ATOMS setup brother ,...great JOB!  :) :) :) :) :)

Thanks john, I take it you mean ATMOS setup  :) it's a bit too late to factor in  ATMOS but I will look at the sound technology available at the next AV receiver change. My Onkyo tx-nr5007 has been in storage for 18 months & just noticed that instruction manual says it may not work after not being used for a long time. Don't quite know what that means but I may be about to find out  :-\
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 29, 2014 at 07:40 PM
Not much progress over the last few days, trying to sort out my permanent residency visa - a bit of a nightmare. Thankfully I'll be able get working in the HT room tomorrow so things should start moving again.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: edwn1220 on Sep 30, 2014 at 07:27 AM
...just noticed that instruction manual says it may not work after not being used for a long time. Don't quite know what that means but I may be about to find out  :-\
This got me worrying. I also have a receiver in storage which I should have sold a long time ago :-\
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 30, 2014 at 12:53 PM
This got me worrying. I also have a receiver in storage which I should have sold a long time ago :-\

It may be just the settings are lost so requires setting up again - I hope so. I'll know in about a week so watch this space.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeffry10 on Oct 01, 2014 at 06:12 AM
good luck on  the visa and the amp ! i take it your 5007 is the amp you're going to use for your setup ?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 01, 2014 at 07:52 AM
good luck on  the visa and the amp ! i take it your 5007 is the amp you're going to use for your setup ?

Thanks toyfactor, yes I'll be using the 5007 for home theater with Cambridge Audio 840E & 840W driving the main fronts. Audio system will be CA 851E & bi-amped 851W's into Mordaunt Short Performance 6's
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 03, 2014 at 10:36 PM
A little bit side tracked the last couple of days with fitting the electronic lock to the inner HT room door but have managed to fit 4 speakers & connecting tomorrow. Just before I left the UK I replaced a pair of floor standers I was using for outside F & L with another pair of IQ 30's to match the rest of the system. They had been discontinued but I managed to get a new pair of a different colour so the rears are black ash & the rest dark apple.

Right rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/7gBljhH.jpg)

Left rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/4MwSzTI.jpg)

Right surround.

(https://i.imgur.com/nCburpA.jpg)

Left surround.

(https://i.imgur.com/9nM9DZg.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Oct 04, 2014 at 05:45 AM


nice and clean OBR!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Oct 04, 2014 at 06:43 AM
A little bit side tracked the last couple of days with fitting the electronic lock to the inner HT room door but have managed to fit 4 speakers & connecting tomorrow. Just before I left the UK I replaced a pair of floor standers I was using for outside F & L with another pair of IQ 30's to match the rest of the system. They had been discontinued but I managed to get a new pair of a different colour so the rears are black ash & the rest dark apple.

Right rear.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Oct32014002_zps3b8dea61.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Oct32014002_zps3b8dea61.jpg.html)

Left rear.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Oct32014005_zps7fdacc48.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Oct32014005_zps7fdacc48.jpg.html)

Right surround.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Oct32014004_zpsb3b29442.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Oct32014004_zpsb3b29442.jpg.html)

Left surround.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Oct32014006_zps171d25c7.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Oct32014006_zps171d25c7.jpg.html)

Nice!! keep them coming OBR.  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 04, 2014 at 08:25 AM

nice and clean OBR!

Thanks Jake
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 04, 2014 at 08:33 AM
Nice!! keep them coming OBR.  :)

Thanks nolax, now the speakers are going in it's beginning to look more like an HT room  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Oct 04, 2014 at 08:57 AM
Thanks nolax, now the speakers are going in it's beginning to look more like an HT room  ;D
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we are waiting for the photos - the most awaited HT room in PDVD.  ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Oct 04, 2014 at 09:58 AM
we are waiting for the photos - the most awaited HT room in PDVD.  ;)

i second this... i pee my pants everytime i come here...   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Narayan on Oct 04, 2014 at 10:53 AM
Thanks toyfactor, yes I'll be using the 5007 for home theater with Cambridge Audio 840E & 840W driving the main fronts. Audio system will be CA 851E & bi-amped 851W's into Mordaunt Short Performance 6's

Am not so much into HT so this is what I would love to see and hear. Fantastic pairing, I dare say 8)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Oct 04, 2014 at 10:41 PM
i second this... i pee my pants everytime i come here...   :)

3rd in line for the request...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 04, 2014 at 11:05 PM
Thanks nolax, now the speakers are going in it's beginning to look more like an HT room  ;D


we are waiting for the photos - the most awaited HT room in PDVD.  ;)

Don't worry nolax there will be plenty of photos & thanks for your comment  :) 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 04, 2014 at 11:10 PM
i second this... i pee my pants everytime i come here...   :)

Thanks for the interest Jake, I sat on the stage yesterday & thought is this really mine, it's a real good feeling knowing one of your dreams is about to come true  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 04, 2014 at 11:13 PM
Am not so much into HT so this is what I would love to see and hear. Fantastic pairing, I dare say 8)

Thanks sir Obet, I can't wait to hear some decent sounds, I've been without for 18 months now so getting a little excited  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 04, 2014 at 11:18 PM
3rd in line for the request...

Sounds like I'll have to supply a pee pot for visitors  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 04, 2014 at 11:29 PM
L & R rear & L & R surrounds connected. Front L & R highs fitted - continues tomorrow.

Right front high.

(https://i.imgur.com/zB3mhkH.jpg)

Left front high.

(https://i.imgur.com/Oty7poB.jpg)
Title: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: AppleMan on Oct 05, 2014 at 04:35 AM
Bro saan po kayo nakabili nung pang speaker bracket na yan kailangan ba naka screw yung bottom ng BS speaker and much po bracket? Congrats po nice setup....
Title: Re: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 05, 2014 at 07:40 AM
Bro saan po kayo nakabili nung pang speaker bracket na yan kailangan ba naka screw yung bottom ng BS speaker and much po bracket? Congrats po nice setup....
meron nyan sa sights and sound.  btw iirc obr is british. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 05, 2014 at 08:39 AM
Bro saan po kayo nakabili nung pang speaker bracket na yan kailangan ba naka screw yung bottom ng BS speaker and much po bracket? Congrats po nice setup....

Thanks china-man, I brought the speaker brackets from the UK but I have seen very similar when searching the net so I think it is a standard design. I'll look for some information for you. There are 5 holes for screw fixing 3 in the base & 1 in each side clamp. I used 3 in the base for security. 
Title: Re: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 05, 2014 at 08:41 AM
meron nyan sa sights and sound.  btw iirc obr is british.

We're OK today ninjababez, the wife was sitting next to me so quick translation   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 05, 2014 at 09:36 AM
Bro saan po kayo nakabili nung pang speaker bracket na yan kailangan ba naka screw yung bottom ng BS speaker and much po bracket? Congrats po nice setup....

Hi china-man, my speaker brackets are BTECH  BT77 & cost the equivalent to about P2,150/pair. They will hold 25Kg, have 7 deg. tilt & 160 deg swivel. BTECH are international & have distributors in China, Hong Kong & Singapore - web site http://www.btechavmounts.com/ 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 05, 2014 at 06:11 PM
Progress interrupted today by a visit from VECO contractors accusing us of illegal power tapping, coming back tomorrow to cut the connection.We have an arrangement with our neighbours across the road & are tapped from the load side of their meter. We decided to reposition our feed cable to make it more obvious so while that was going on no lights in the HT room   >:(. Managed to connect the front high speakers & put the main amp & AV receiver in the rack. I'm busy paying bills & getting my visa application submitted so not a lot will be done tomorrow, I will update if I manage to do anything.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 05, 2014 at 07:36 PM
Progress interrupted today by a visit from VECO contractors accusing us of illegal power tapping, coming back tomorrow to cut the connection.We have an arrangement with our neighbours across the road & are tapped from the load side of their meter. We decided to reposition our feed cable to make it more obvious so while that was going on no lights in the HT room   >:(. Managed to connect the front high speakers & put the main amp & AV receiver in the rack. I'm busy paying bills & getting my visa application submitted so not a lot will be done tomorrow, I will update if I manage to do anything.

It's holiday tomorrow!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 05, 2014 at 08:51 PM
It's holiday tomorrow!

Hi Nelson, what can I say but oops, I forgot, looks like my architect & VECO have forgotten as well. Thanks for the reminder, at least I'll be able to work in peace  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 09, 2014 at 06:28 PM
Progress interrupted today by a visit from VECO contractors accusing us of illegal power tapping, coming back tomorrow to cut the connection.We have an arrangement with our neighbours across the road & are tapped from the load side of their meter. We decided to reposition our feed cable to make it more obvious so while that was going on no lights in the HT room   >:(. Managed to connect the front high speakers & put the main amp & AV receiver in the rack. I'm busy paying bills & getting my visa application submitted so not a lot will be done tomorrow, I will update if I manage to do anything.

No internet for 4 days Globe re - instated today   >:(
VECO's threat a storm in a teacup, their contractor turned up on Monday (holiday ?) to assess my power requirements, he will decide if I need my own transformer  :-\
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 10, 2014 at 07:51 AM
After no internet for 4 days photos from last Monday.

Led lighting wiring tidied & ceiling fan installed. the led lighting sensors will be positioned when the louvre covering the A/C unit is fitted.

840W main amp in position.

(https://i.imgur.com/ssMsg13.jpg)

Tx-nr 5007 in position.

(https://i.imgur.com/GFZB620.jpg)

Rear of 5007 - speaker cables connected except for center.

(https://i.imgur.com/lfaLb8w.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: larokulit on Oct 10, 2014 at 08:09 AM
Wow I admire the cable management being done.

How's the TX-NR5007? Did it power up? :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 10, 2014 at 08:40 AM
Executed like a pro. Terrific, Oldboyracer.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 10, 2014 at 10:37 PM
Wow I admire the cable management being done.

How's the TX-NR5007? Did it power up? :)

Thanks larokulit, I have not powered anything up yet - that will be over the weekend.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 10, 2014 at 10:40 PM
Executed like a pro. Terrific, Oldboyracer.

Thanks Gino, in my early days I was a development installation engineer, it looks like I have not lost my touch  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Oct 11, 2014 at 12:28 AM
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Oct62014014_zps0f913697.jpg)[/URL]

excellent speaker cable management! :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 11, 2014 at 07:20 AM
excellent speaker cable management! :D

Thanks DTNS.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 11, 2014 at 07:42 AM
I left the camera on site Thursday night so here photos of Thursdays work.

Front left main speaker.

(https://i.imgur.com/WPubk7k.jpg)

Front right main speaker connections.

(https://i.imgur.com/BxxNcjt.jpg)

Center speaker now connected to the 5007.

(https://i.imgur.com/e0jydpk.jpg)

Main amp connections.

(https://i.imgur.com/eSOcTVs.jpg)

Center speaker.

(https://i.imgur.com/LsOPQfA.jpg)

Center speaker connections.

(https://i.imgur.com/aNVyuH0.jpg)

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 11, 2014 at 08:00 AM
Yesterday's efforts, BD player & Screen installed. Something went wrong with the dimension below the screen, should have been 1" & it's ended up 5". I'm going to get a couple of plates made to allow the screen to drop 4"
Apologies for the quality of the photo, I still haven't got a tripod for the camera.

Edit - brain half asleep this morning, I forgot about the sub woofer lurking behind & to the right of the front right speaker    ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/Fj4cNSH.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Photonyo on Oct 11, 2014 at 09:12 AM
Screen height looks ok to me sir OBR and you have more equipment space on the top shelf if ever :)
i dont know how big your center speakers are but again if ever you get a bigger one it would fit.


Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Oct 11, 2014 at 09:13 AM

that panel is not big...  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM
Screen height looks ok to me sir OBR and you have more equipment space on the top shelf if ever :)
i dont know how big your center speakers are but again if ever you get a bigger one it would fit.

Hi Photonyo, the height was worked out so viewers in the front row didn't look up too much. The center speaker is sat under the screen & at the moment there is 5" clearance. I must admit my 1st thoughts were "at least I can have a bigger center speaker"  >:D. I don't really want to be putting more gears on the top shelf but with our hobby you never know.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM
that panel is not big...  :)

 ;) :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 11, 2014 at 06:29 PM
Today's update, All gears connected, I will power the system up in the morning, results tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Oct 11, 2014 at 06:58 PM
Super Neat! No wires or cables seen hanging or snaking around in the front view  ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 11, 2014 at 07:09 PM
that panel is not big...  :)

I smell a fellow warlock chanting.  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: xgh0st12x on Oct 11, 2014 at 07:31 PM
Today's update, All gears connected, I will power the system up in the morning, results tomorrow night.

Im in cebu till monday morning. Need an audience sir? Hahahaha!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 11, 2014 at 10:22 PM
Super Neat! No wires or cables seen hanging or snaking around in the front view  ;)

Thank you sir, I've tried to hide the cables as much as possible  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 11, 2014 at 10:23 PM
I smell a fellow warlock chanting.  ;D

 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 11, 2014 at 10:34 PM
Im in cebu till monday morning. Need an audience sir? Hahahaha!

Hi ghost your welcome but I don't know how much viewing will be done. It's mainly making sure everything works before the acoustic panels are fitted. Found a problem today, the screens power lead (it's a special) wasn't in the box so I have 3 non compatible leads (plugs for the outlet the wrong pin configuration) so I shall be modifying one first thing in the morning.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 11, 2014 at 10:48 PM
neat wiring bro OBR :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Oct 12, 2014 at 06:23 AM
Yesterday's efforts, BD player & Screen installed. Something went wrong with the dimension below the screen, should have been 1" & it's ended up 5". I'm going to get a couple of plates made to allow the screen to drop 4"
Apologies for the quality of the photo, I still haven't got a tripod for the camera.

Edit - brain half asleep this morning, I forgot about the sub woofer lurking behind & to the right of the front right speaker    ;D

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Oct102014003_zps29999b68.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Oct102014003_zps29999b68.jpg.html)


Wow...very nicely done...punta na ng cebu...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 12, 2014 at 08:29 AM
neat wiring bro OBR :)

Thanks Jammy.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 12, 2014 at 08:32 AM

Wow...very nicely done...punta na ng cebu...

Thanks jeff.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 12, 2014 at 11:28 AM
I agree with you on the screen height. I've had neck pain with a monitor that was set too high. A few degrees from ear level is ergonomic. Glad you have a workaround.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Oct 12, 2014 at 11:39 AM

i think based on your gears set-up in front, this should be best height setting.

(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/Oct102014003_zpsbd008c82.jpg) (http://s255.photobucket.com/user/jakedavid_2004/media/Oct102014003_zpsbd008c82.jpg.html)

i also took the liberty of improving the room bass  :)  :)  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: metropharm on Oct 12, 2014 at 10:38 PM
Nice HT set up  Sir OBR,congrats  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 13, 2014 at 08:22 AM
I agree with you on the screen height. I've had neck pain with a monitor that was set too high. A few degrees from ear level is ergonomic. Glad you have a workaround.

I will have the mounting plates remade but it's going to be a pain lifting that beast down & repacking it while I do the mods. It's obviously a miscalculation on my part so down to me  >:(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 13, 2014 at 08:30 AM
i think based on your gears set-up in front, this should be best height setting.

(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/Oct102014003_zpsbd008c82.jpg) (http://s255.photobucket.com/user/jakedavid_2004/media/Oct102014003_zpsbd008c82.jpg.html)

i also took the liberty of improving the room bass  :)  :)  :)

I agree sir Jake, my calculations should have given 25mm clearance between screen & center speaker but I've ended up with 125mm. I haven't worked out where I went wrong, probably a subtracting error as I did the maths in my head. Ah ! well it's done now & a little inconvenience to rectify.
Thank you for adding a sub at least I'll get a idea of what it looks like  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Oct 13, 2014 at 08:33 AM
that panel is not big...  :)
maliit nga! :D maliit na lang ang di natatakpan ng panel sa backwall... Gurabe!! :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 13, 2014 at 08:43 AM
Powered up all the gears yesterday, we have good news & we have bad news.
The good - everything survived the trip from the UK & works well sort of.
The bad - the screen has some thin lines from the bottom to half way up, 5 on the left & 1 on the right.
The volume on the remote does not work so I'll have to check if any of the other functions have the same problem.
Complete clear up today in readiness for acoustic panel install & a bit of further investigations into the problems..
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 13, 2014 at 08:45 AM
Wow I admire the cable management being done.

How's the TX-NR5007? Did it power up? :)

Hi larokulit, yes the TX-NR5007 powered up OK but the volume on the remote is not working. I will check today to see if there are any other problems with it.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 13, 2014 at 08:54 AM
The bad - the screen has some thin lines from the bottom to half way up, 5 on the left & 1 on the right.

Ouch... :-[
Hope this screen problem could still be fixed.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 13, 2014 at 08:57 AM
maliit nga! :D maliit na lang ang di natatakpan ng panel sa backwall... Gurabe!! :D

Sorry sovrain I don't understand what you are saying & the wife is also confused.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Oct 13, 2014 at 09:05 AM
Sorry sovrain I don't understand what you are saying & the wife is also confused.
:D just trying to say that the panel is very big that it almost covers the whole of the backwall:) well, as per photo....I wish I could afford that size of a panel....
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 13, 2014 at 09:11 AM
Ouch... :-[
Hope this screen problem could still be fixed.

You & me both Louie. What's worrying me is that the screen may have had this problem when I bought it, the lines are not noticeable all the time, depends on picture content. My supplier has been very reliable over the years & would have told me & offered a further discount, I don't suppose I'll ever know now. The other possibility is that something has been dislodged in transit but if that's the case it is going to be a nightmare to work on   :-\
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 13, 2014 at 09:19 AM
:D just trying to say that the panel is very big that it almost covers the whole of the backwall:) well, as per photo....I wish I could afford that size of a panel....

Thanks for that sovrain, the screen is 2014mm x 1194mm & the back wall just under 5000mm wide so it's taking up nearly half the wall. It's sitting nearly 1000mm away from the wall to give some extra viewing distance if I ever go for a PJ.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 14, 2014 at 09:01 AM
Powered up all the gears yesterday, we good news & we have bad news.
The good - everything survived the trip from the UK & works well sort of.
The bad - the screen has some thin lines from the bottom to half way up, 5 on the left & 1 on the right.
The volume on the remote does not work so I'll have to check if any of the other functions have the same problem.
Complete clear up today in readiness for acoustic panel install & a bit of further investigations into the problems..

Update :- It looks like the only problem with the 5007 remote is the volume buttons which appear to be sticking & not transmitting, I will dismantle it later & see if it's repairable. The screen now only has 1 line on the left hand side but half the width it was before so it looks as though it is improving with usage    :-\ ??? :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Oct 14, 2014 at 12:58 PM

Congrats OBR..! Hope all problems be fixed soon...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 14, 2014 at 01:21 PM
Sir OBR,
Maybe you could try using this plasma tv break-in color slide show...
Hope it could help eliminate those unwanted line :)

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/hdtv-video-displays-processors/52673-plasma-break-how-properly-break-your-new-plasma-display.html (http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/hdtv-video-displays-processors/52673-plasma-break-how-properly-break-your-new-plasma-display.html)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: xgh0st12x on Oct 14, 2014 at 06:52 PM
Really feel bad for that road bump you have, sir. Esp after all the time, money and sweat that has been put in.
Hope it's still fixable.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 14, 2014 at 07:54 PM
Congrats OBR..! Hope all problems be fixed soon...

Thanks audiojunkie, I'm beginning to feel a little better about things   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Oct 14, 2014 at 08:01 PM
Thanks for that sovrain, the screen is 2014mm x 1194mm & the back wall just under 5000mm wide so it's taking up nearly half the wall. It's sitting nearly 1000mm away from the wall to give some extra viewing distance if I ever go for a PJ.
anlaki pala talaga...have to stare on a  wall to imagine the size of that 2+ meter x 1+meter tv ;D...congrats....
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 14, 2014 at 08:03 PM
Sir OBR,
Maybe you could try using this plasma tv break-in color slide show...
Hope it could help eliminate those unwanted line :)

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/hdtv-video-displays-processors/52673-plasma-break-how-properly-break-your-new-plasma-display.html (http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/hdtv-video-displays-processors/52673-plasma-break-how-properly-break-your-new-plasma-display.html)

Thanks for that Louie, My screen is already burnt in, it was on display for a month before I purchased it but it will not hurt to try something different.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 14, 2014 at 08:11 PM
Really feel bad for that road bump you have, sir. Esp after all the time, money and sweat that has been put in.
Hope it's still fixable.

Thanks for your concern ghost, I'm beginning to think that the problems are a product of the transfer from the port to the house. 50% of the distance  I would call terrible but everything has survived the trip so I'm reasonably happy. Fingers crossed the screen will sort itself out.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 14, 2014 at 08:16 PM
anlaki pala talaga...have to stare on a  wall to imagine the size of that 2+ meter x 1+meter tv ;D...congrats....

I've spent the last few days playing with the toys instead of preparing the room. My biggest screen in the past was 50" so this is still new for me & I'm loving it  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 14, 2014 at 08:24 PM
Update :- Acoustic panels will be installed over the weekend. Yesterday & today I have been listening to music played on the Oppo, Simple Minds, Enigma & Hawkwind. Considering the system has not been set up yet it sounds quite good. I am really appreciating the benefits of a larger room, getting excited for the weekend  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 15, 2014 at 08:35 PM
Update :- Front row of seats installed today, I just had to spend some time in the sweet spot. The 2nd row will be shipped to site tomorrow so hopefully some photos of the gears up & running  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: AppleMan on Oct 15, 2014 at 11:19 PM
Pics pics pics and more pics....Congrats in Advance Bro.... >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Oct 16, 2014 at 04:43 AM

Update :- Acoustic panels will be installed over the weekend. Yesterday & today I have been listening to music played on the Oppo, Simple Minds, Enigma & Hawkwind. Considering the system has not been set up yet it sounds quite good. I am really appreciating the benefits of a larger room, getting excited for the weekend  ;D ;D ;D

Once all acoustic panels and seats installed and you run final audio calibration, I supposed you have at least
SPL meter to do fine tuning to your custom setting. As I read in other threads, they usually do manual fine tuning suit personal preference that differs every user.
Title: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: AppleMan on Oct 16, 2014 at 05:57 AM
Baka need ng SPL Meter Radio Shock brand?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 16, 2014 at 06:12 AM
Once all acoustic panels and seats installed and you run final audio calibration, I supposed you have at least
SPL meter to do fine tuning to your custom setting. As I read in other threads, they usually do manual fine tuning suit personal preference that differs every user.

SPL meters are for gain setting only am I correct? Usually, I boost the center speaker by 1-2 db for dialogue, plus of course the sub. hehe!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeffry10 on Oct 16, 2014 at 06:57 AM
that is a big tv !

(what is it ?)

congrats OBR ! :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 16, 2014 at 08:02 AM
Pics pics pics and more pics....Congrats in Advance Bro.... >:D

Don't worry china-man there will be lots of pics, it's been a bit difficult to get decent shots because of all the things still in the room. All room non essentials will be removed today so hopefully pics later.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 16, 2014 at 08:14 AM
Once all acoustic panels and seats installed and you run final audio calibration, I supposed you have at least
SPL meter to do fine tuning to your custom setting. As I read in other threads, they usually do manual fine tuning suit personal preference that differs every user.

SPL meter is the one thing I haven't got audiojuckie, I've been meaning to get one so now's probably the time to pull the trigger. I've usually been happy my Audyssey calibration but this a whole new ball game so best to be prepared.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 16, 2014 at 08:27 AM
One of my tests cds has an annotated frequency sweep. I find that more meaningful than an spl meter. What you hear is what you are getting.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 16, 2014 at 08:31 AM
SPL meters are for gain setting only am I correct? Usually, I boost the center speaker by 1-2 db for dialogue, plus of course the sub. hehe!

Hi Nelson, this is an area where I haven't bothered too much as my past rooms have been multi - usage & far from ideal. It's my understanding that SPL meters were essential before the likes of Audyssey came on the scene to ensure correct adjustment of speaker sound levels at the listening positions. Audyssey & the like do not always get it right so it's good to be able to check with an SPL meter & as audiojunkie states each individual has different preferences. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 16, 2014 at 08:38 AM
that is a big tv !

(what is it ?)

congrats OBR ! :D

Hi toyfactor & thanks, it's not actually a TV, it's an 85" commercial Plasma display screen. Panansonic TH-85VX200W. I quite happy with it so far.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 16, 2014 at 08:41 AM
One of my tests cds has an annotated frequency sweep. I find that more meaningful than an spl meter. What you hear is what you are getting.

Hi Gino, that's also something I need to invest in - test CD's.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 16, 2014 at 09:12 PM
Update :- Transport arrived late for the seats so they will be installed tomorrow then I will take photos.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeffry10 on Oct 17, 2014 at 02:31 PM
Hi toyfactor & thanks, it's not actually a TV, it's an 85" commercial Plasma display screen. Panansonic TH-85VX200W. I quite happy with it so far.

great display ! i like it..

could you pm me the price ? that may be workable for my setup :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 17, 2014 at 09:40 PM
great display ! i like it..

could you pm me the price ? that may be workable for my setup :).

Thanks toyfactor, sent you PM.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 17, 2014 at 09:55 PM
Update :- back row of seats installed today. I've taken a few photos, they're not very good, taken in a hurry. I'll take some better ones after the acoustic panel install.

Front left to rear right.

(https://i.imgur.com/YAJtTDs.jpg)

Front right to rear left.

(https://i.imgur.com/JuKcqb1.jpg)

Rear right to front left.

(https://i.imgur.com/snA5qRw.jpg)

Rear left to front right.

(https://i.imgur.com/N7LdWe1.jpg)

The girls watching Dune from the back row.

(https://i.imgur.com/0SCDudA.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 17, 2014 at 10:07 PM
Awesome room. I can only imagine how it is like to watch a movie in there.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 17, 2014 at 10:10 PM
A couple of screen shots while watching Dune in standard definition. They turned out brighter than the actual screen images so I will have to tune up my camera skills.

(https://i.imgur.com/rvmMpRa.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/mgtjxjI.jpg)

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 17, 2014 at 10:23 PM
Awesome room. I can only imagine how it is like to watch a movie in there.

Thanks Gino, at the moment it's very very hot. the heat off the gears necessitates an air con. unit running. I'm still waiting for the power supply to be installed so having to make do with the fan in the pics. I definitely need to drop the screen 4" so that will be the 1st job.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM
Congrats OBR at the finished project! Simply amazing! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/77.gif)(https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/77.gif)(https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/77.gif)

I'm sure you'll have countless sleepless nights ahead! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/43.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Oct 18, 2014 at 12:48 AM

Looking good now OBR... Can't wait to see the fabric skin over the acoustic panels....

Any provision of extra power outlets in case you need to plug any  electrical devices like fans in the photos. This is to minimized extension wires running across the floor.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Oct 18, 2014 at 01:10 AM
lookin good! congrats OBR!  :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: xgh0st12x on Oct 18, 2014 at 06:17 AM
Were you able to find a solution for the problems you had with the Panel?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 18, 2014 at 07:05 PM
Congrats OBR at the finished project! Simply amazing! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/77.gif)(https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/77.gif)(https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/77.gif)

I'm sure you'll have countless sleepless nights ahead! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/43.gif)

Thanks Doc, not quite finished yet, we are installing the acoustic panels now. Maybe finished tonight or tomorrow morning & then we'll do some sound tests  ;D ;D ;D
your absolutely correct, many sleepless nights when we finally move in  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 18, 2014 at 07:06 PM
Wow!

Thank you sir.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 18, 2014 at 07:17 PM
Looking good now OBR... Can't wait to see the fabric skin over the acoustic panels....

Any provision of extra power outlets in case you need to plug any  electrical devices like fans in the photos. This is to minimized extension wires running across the floor.

Thanks audiojunkie, acoustic panels are being installed as I write & once I am happy I will be looking at covering them.
The only reason I am using extension leads is because we are still on temporary power & cannot power up the panel boards. I have air con & a ceiling fan so that should sort out the cooling,there are 4 outlets behind the screen & there will be 2 Richard Gray's so I think I have enough outlet distribution. What you are seeing in the photos is very temporary - honest  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 18, 2014 at 07:19 PM
lookin good! congrats OBR!  :D

Thanks DTNS.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 18, 2014 at 07:21 PM
Were you able to find a solution for the problems you had with the Panel?

Hi ghost, the answer is no, the problem has cured itself, no lines for 2 days  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 18, 2014 at 07:31 PM
Update pics will have to be tomorrow, camera memory card full & low battery. Will be going back to site shortly to supervise the completion of the acoustic panel install & will probably stay overnight.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Oct 18, 2014 at 08:26 PM
Thanks audiojunkie, acoustic panels are being installed as I write & once I am happy I will be looking at covering them.
The only reason I am using extension leads is because we are still on temporary power & cannot power up the panel boards. I have air con & a ceiling fan so that should sort out the cooling,there are 4 outlets behind the screen & there will be 2 Richard Gray's so I think I have enough outlet distribution. What you are seeing in the photos is very temporary - honest  :)

Just curious to see the cover and how the fixation on your finished wall. Typical in some builds, acoustic panels were left exposed without any other material over it that might negate the main purpose. Yes, I remember in one of the photos shown the ceiling fan. Do you think it will not affect the surround sound effects in the movies? It's good have extra power outlet provisions for future requirement.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: larokulit on Oct 18, 2014 at 09:33 PM
Hi ghost, the answer is no, the problem has cured itself, no lines for 2 days  ;D ;D ;D

Nice -- this is good news!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: xgh0st12x on Oct 19, 2014 at 03:12 AM
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Very good news indeed mate! Congrats on everything!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeffry10 on Oct 19, 2014 at 07:35 AM
Update pics will have to be tomorrow, camera memory card full & low battery. Will be going back to site shortly to supervise the completion of the acoustic panel install & will probably stay overnight.

thanks. good thing i was reminded of that. i left my camera battery charging at a wall outlet behind the curtains in my room  :o.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 19, 2014 at 09:38 AM

The girls watching Dune from the back row.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Oct172014014_zps7d3b0efc.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Oct172014014_zps7d3b0efc.jpg.html)

 

Seemed like your girls are bored watching Dune. I suggest you plug in some Tagalog drama/love story flicks to keep their interest. I'm sure those movies will maximize your high end setup. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/21.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Oct 19, 2014 at 09:51 AM
Seemed like your girls are bored watching Dune. I suggest you plug in some Tagalog drama/love story flicks to keep their interest. I'm sure those movies will maximize your high end setup. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/21.gif)

I'm sure they'd prefer watching some afternoon soap opera on your 85" plasma. ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 19, 2014 at 10:02 AM
Hi ghost, the answer is no, the problem has cured itself, no lines for 2 days  ;D ;D ;D

Great!!! This is definitely a very good development ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 19, 2014 at 10:35 PM
Just curious to see the cover and how the fixation on your finished wall. Typical in some builds, acoustic panels were left exposed without any other material over it that might negate the main purpose. Yes, I remember in one of the photos shown the ceiling fan. Do you think it will not affect the surround sound effects in the movies? It's good have extra power outlet provisions for future requirement.

Hi audiojunkie, I think the effect of the ceiling fan on the surround sound will be minimal, I may be wrong but I will be doing some thorough checks with it on & off. Yes your quite right about power outlets but I'm sure I have enough, the 2 power conditioners have 4 outlets each + I will be using power strips where needed & that will leave 2 wall outlets free. As for my idea of covering the acoustic panels with fabric, it looks as though I will be shelving that idea. Having seen the finished install I rather like it as it is - photos below.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 19, 2014 at 10:36 PM
Nice -- this is good news!

Thanks larokulit, still no lines so I am well pleased  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 19, 2014 at 10:38 PM
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Very good news indeed mate! Congrats on everything!

Thanks ghost & still no lines so very happy  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 19, 2014 at 10:39 PM
thanks. good thing i was reminded of that. i left my camera battery charging at a wall outlet behind the curtains in my room  :o.

Hi toyfactor, I take it your camera battery is OK ?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 19, 2014 at 10:44 PM
Seemed like your girls are bored watching Dune. I suggest you plug in some Tagalog drama/love story flicks to keep their interest. I'm sure those movies will maximize your high end setup. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/21.gif)

Hey, steady Doc, this room is my domain  ;D Your suggested movies will be shown on the 50" Pioneer  ;) :) BTW they were not bored but so interested it kept them quiet for ages   ;D   
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM
I'm sure they'd prefer watching some afternoon soap opera on your 85" plasma. ;D

I'm sure they would DTNS but I think the attraction at the moment is the comfort of the seats  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 19, 2014 at 10:48 PM
Great!!! This is definitely a very good development ;)
Thanks Louie, we're now up to 4 days so it really is looking great  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 19, 2014 at 10:51 PM
Saturdays solitary photo before the camera said stop.

The acoustic panels being readied for fitting. 56 in all.

(https://i.imgur.com/Vfy64HD.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 19, 2014 at 11:00 PM
The install completed at 5 this morning so some quick pics & i will take some proper shots when I've cleared up tomorrow.

Acoustic panel install carried out by Erwin Allen. He & his team, front right in the background.

(https://i.imgur.com/LMqmrSY.jpg)

The team again with front left in the background.

(https://i.imgur.com/qujI4bS.jpg)

Looking towards right rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/NbUGA31.jpg)

Looking towards left rear. Those of you who are eagle eyed will notice the white spots on the door, a little touch up job for my decorator after a slight error of judgement.

(https://i.imgur.com/hH3taPL.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Oct 20, 2014 at 12:46 AM
Now, it's looking great OBR..!  Yes I agree, the acoustic panels look fine left as they are. Unless you want to go thru another trouble of fixing the cover. All I can say, Congrats and thanks for sharing every details of your build.... ;D it's normal to do some touching up after completion of work. " two thumbs up" ...   ^-^
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 20, 2014 at 08:07 AM
 
Hey, steady Doc, this room is my domain  ;D Your suggested movies will be shown on the 50" Pioneer  ;) :) BTW they were not bored but so interested it kept them quiet for ages   ;D   

Yup your room elicits the "shock and awe" response. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/13.gif)

Just curious if your panels "deadened" the room. Seemed like most of it are absorbers.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2014 at 08:41 AM
Now, it's looking great OBR..!  Yes I agree, the acoustic panels look fine left as they are. Unless you want to go thru another trouble of fixing the cover. All I can say, Congrats and thanks for sharing every details of your build.... ;D it's normal to do some touching up after completion of work. " two thumbs up" ...   ^-^

Thanks for your vote of confidence audiojunkie  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2014 at 08:53 AM

Yup your room elicits the "shock and awe" response. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/13.gif)

Just curious if your panels "deadened" the room. Seemed like most of it are absorbers.

Thanks for the appreciation Doc  :)
Your correct they are absorbers but after a quick sound check I don't think it is overly deadened. It seems dead to a normal room but that's only to be expected & I would liken it to how I remember the Cinema. I have got the average 30% coverage (looks a lot more) & using the same volume levels so I think I will be OK. As the panels are held on with Velcro I have plenty of room for experimentation if I get the urge to start tweeking  >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 20, 2014 at 10:02 AM
You might want to try some diffusers at the back. It might help in a seamless surround sound effect. Just some food for thought. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2014 at 10:45 AM
You might want to try some diffusers at the back. It might help in a seamless surround sound effect. Just some food for thought. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif)

Thanks for the suggestion Doc, I will have to do a lot more research into acoustics. From what I've read so far the general feeling is non reflective front & rear & diffusers on the sides but with all of this as long as the basic rules are applied the rest (fine tuning) is down to personal preference. Some like a more lively room but as yet I haven't sampled mine to find out if I've got it anywhere near right. Also I think the acoustics will be different between HT & audio, I will have my audio system in the living room so that's where I expect to encounter most of my acoustical problems. I may have to get some test equipment & run my own tests.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 20, 2014 at 12:41 PM
In this room, I have a feeling only one person will care about room sound quality. Looking really good.

Good to know there will be a second system coming up. Wow.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: olrac on Oct 20, 2014 at 02:30 PM
congrats...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 20, 2014 at 02:59 PM
Thanks for the suggestion Doc, I will have to do a lot more research into acoustics. From what I've read so far the general feeling is non reflective front & rear & diffusers on the sides but with all of this as long as the basic rules are applied the rest (fine turning) is down to personal preference.

I totally agree on this. There is always the discussion between reference and preference. Reference might not sound good to you.  For example, when Audyssey calibrates my system. Personally, the volume level given by Audyssey to my subs is a little conservative that's why I add a little more to suit my taste.  Tests of experts were done in a controlled environment. Different rooms have different responses. Best way is to experiment which might take awhile but could be enjoyable to you!  It is not the sound engineers that will listen and enjoy your system anyway. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/10.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2014 at 09:35 PM
In this room, I have a feeling only one person will care about room sound quality. Looking really good.

Good to know there will be a second system coming up. Wow.

You're right there Gino, as far as the wife is concerned as long as there is noise & some sort of picture the quality is irrelevant.
In the UK I had the audio system running alongside the HT, pre outs from the AVR & the audio amp driving the left & right fronts. When I relocated to Cebu I had the opportunity to have 2 systems so purchased speakers, amps & pre amp. The old amp & pre amp will still drive the right & left fronts so with the addition of another CD player plus the streaming I can have some reasonable sound in the HT room whilst the soaps are on  >:D I will post when the audio system is up & running.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2014 at 09:36 PM
congrats...

Thanks olrac.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2014 at 09:46 PM
I totally agree on this. There is always the discussion between reference and preference. Reference might not sound good to you.  For example, when Audyssey calibrates my system. Personally, the volume level given by Audyssey to my subs is a little conservative that's why I add a little more to suit my taste.  Tests of experts were done in a controlled environment. Different rooms have different responses. Best way is to experiment which might take awhile but could be enjoyable to you!  It is not the sound engineers that will listen and enjoy your system anyway. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/10.gif)

I agree whole heartedly Doc, it is usual to lift the sub output after an Audyssey calibration. What I have found interesting is that my AVR still has the calibration I used in the UK, I have only re calibrated the sub & not only does the system sound reasonable, the sub seemed to be trying to shake the foundations  ;D
The good thing now is being retired I have all my time to experiment  ;D I'm looking forward to playing with the gears  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2014 at 09:52 PM
Update :- The clearing up & cleaning is taking longer than expected so the photos are on hold for a couple of days. The door & wall in front of the left surround will be retouched tomorrow, interview at the Bureau of Immigration on Wednesday so things will slow up for a few days.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 22, 2014 at 06:29 AM
Update :- Repainting completed yesterday now I can complete the clean up.

Edit :- Found areas that needed retouching, all completed today.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 24, 2014 at 08:04 PM
Update :- I have been experimenting & it has become obvious the the room is suitable for movies but no good for music. That said I have been using the Oppo to spin CD's & running through the Onkyo so not ideal, more experimenting to be done using a CD player direct through the main amp. The audio system will be in the living room so I will have a mix of diffusers & absorbers. Just waiting for the power to be installed so we can move in.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 25, 2014 at 06:31 PM
It's all part of the fun. I can't wait to see this all done. Then the living room system next.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 26, 2014 at 07:06 AM
It's all part of the fun. I can't wait to see this all done. Then the living room system next.

It would be fun if I had all the equipment on site with me, still the living room system shouldn't have too many dramas  ;) ??? :)
A little more paint retouching today & that should be the decor completed  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 28, 2014 at 08:30 AM
Update :- Spent the last 2 days making single panel covers for the corner bass traps (to make the corners look pretty), probably will be completed & fitted tomorrow. Paint retouching still to do as VECO cut our electric supply (no light), apparently our neighbour was violating their contract by giving us power. My architect delivered a generator late last night so hopefully we will have power until VECO install a temporary supply   >:(. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 28, 2014 at 09:24 PM
Oh my, that Veco thing was terrible.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 29, 2014 at 08:46 AM
Oh my, that Veco thing was terrible.

Yes very bad news Gino, the generator we have is only small, no regulation so lighting up & down. I'm not prepared to do anything else in sub lighting so having to wait until a temporary supply is put in. The annoying thing is VECO will be installing the full power connection within 2 or 3 weeks  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 29, 2014 at 10:55 AM
Not that it's my business, but why would a neighbor supply power? Did he sell you the property? When I sold my adjacent lot, the new owner wanted to temporarily hook up on mine. I said no of course.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 29, 2014 at 06:08 PM
Not that it's my business, but why would a neighbor supply power? Did he sell you the property? When I sold my adjacent lot, the new owner wanted to temporarily hook up on mine. I said no of course.

It was organised by my architect & we had our own meter so we could split the costs accurately. In the UK this is not a problem if a private arrangement is made. I think it was cost saving as I would need more than 25KW the power install is chargeable so with a temporary supply it was being charged twice for the install. In hind sight yes we should have had a temporary supply but as I say organised by my architect & a year ago I was being guided by him - I'm a bit wiser now  :). Yes we bought the land from the neighbour who was also a friend of the family. Apparently there is a clause in the contract with VECO which states you cannot give power to anyone, this is very strange for me but you learn something new every day so my education is continuing  ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 29, 2014 at 06:12 PM
As we have a lack of power we have spent the day transferring about 75% of our belongings the the house. I've employed a security guard to keep an eye on things till we move in. I will start assembling the audio system tomorrow so a few more pics  :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 30, 2014 at 03:35 PM
You can thank informal settlers for that law. A funny incident occured many years back. When a big bus company burned, suddenly an entire community of illegal settlers were without power. Without the bus company's knowledge, it was supplying power for everyone ha ha. Water too.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 30, 2014 at 06:05 PM
Update :- TV/audio rack assembled today, back in the UK this housed only the HT gear but as I've added an amp to the audio system the old audio rack is not big enough. I may use both & juggle the gears a bit. In the mean time a couple of pics.

(https://i.imgur.com/qgOSe3e.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8D40jx9.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Oct 30, 2014 at 06:07 PM
Very nice. You'll figure something out.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 30, 2014 at 06:17 PM
You can thank informal settlers for that law. A funny incident occured many years back. When a big bus company burned, suddenly an entire community of illegal settlers were without power. Without the bus company's knowledge, it was supplying power for everyone ha ha. Water too.

Hi Gino,I thought the reason would be something like that but I would have thought that if an arrangement was made between 2 people that should be OK - as I have said previously you learn something new every day  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 30, 2014 at 06:21 PM
Very nice. You'll figure something out.

Thanks Gino, I shall assemble the audio rack tomorrow & see if the 2 racks will sit side by side. this will give a speaker spacing of 2.4 meters. The top of the audio rack would be ideal for the turntable, more pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 30, 2014 at 06:52 PM
Paint retouching still to do as VECO cut our electric supply (no light), apparently our neighbour was violating their contract by giving us power. 

Neighbor (and you) were actually violating RA 7832 :)

"Section 1.  Short Title. – This Act shall be referred to as the "Anti-Electricity and Electric Transmission Lines/Materials Pilferage Act of 1994."
     Sec.   2.  Illegal Use of Electricity.  – It is hereby declared unlawful for any person, whether natural or juridical, public or private, to:
        (a)  Tap, make or cause to be made any connection with overhead lines, service drops, or other electric service wires, without previous authority or consent of the private electric utility or rural electric cooperative concerned;
        (b)  Tap, make or cause to be made any connection to the existing electric service facilities of any duly registered consumer without the latter's or the electric utility's consent or authority;
X X X
        (e)  Knowingly use or receive the direct benefit of electric service through any of the acts mentioned in subsections (a), (b), (c), and (d) above."

Good that your architect rectified the problem. Hope all is well.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 30, 2014 at 11:11 PM
Neighbor (and you) were actually violating RA 7832 :)

"Section 1.  Short Title. – This Act shall be referred to as the "Anti-Electricity and Electric Transmission Lines/Materials Pilferage Act of 1994."
     Sec.   2.  Illegal Use of Electricity.  – It is hereby declared unlawful for any person, whether natural or juridical, public or private, to:
        (a)  Tap, make or cause to be made any connection with overhead lines, service drops, or other electric service wires, without previous authority or consent of the private electric utility or rural electric cooperative concerned;
        (b)  Tap, make or cause to be made any connection to the existing electric service facilities of any duly registered consumer without the latter's or the electric utility's consent or authority;
X X X
        (e)  Knowingly use or receive the direct benefit of electric service through any of the acts mentioned in subsections (a), (b), (c), and (d) above."

Good that your architect rectified the problem. Hope all is well.

Thanks for that Ma'm, I will make sure I read the contract when I finally get connected.
The problem is not quite rectified yet, I'm still waiting for the temporary supply to be installed   :(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 31, 2014 at 05:09 AM
Neighbor (and you) were actually violating RA 7832 :)

"Section 1.  Short Title. – This Act shall be referred to as the "Anti-Electricity and Electric Transmission Lines/Materials Pilferage Act of 1994."
     Sec.   2.  Illegal Use of Electricity.  – It is hereby declared unlawful for any person, whether natural or juridical, public or private, to:
        (a)  Tap, make or cause to be made any connection with overhead lines, service drops, or other electric service wires, without previous authority or consent of the private electric utility or rural electric cooperative concerned;
        (b)  Tap, make or cause to be made any connection to the existing electric service facilities of any duly registered consumer without the latter's or the electric utility's consent or authority;
X X X
        (e)  Knowingly use or receive the direct benefit of electric service through any of the acts mentioned in subsections (a), (b), (c), and (d) above."

Good that your architect rectified the problem. Hope all is well.

A lot of people in the depressed areas are violating this law but implementation of sanctions aren't done. There was even one who died of electrocution doing the act of stealing electricity.

What's worse we legal payers are paying for those stolen electricity passed as "system losses". (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/14.gif)

No offense to you OBR. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 31, 2014 at 08:02 AM
A lot of people in the depressed areas are violating this law but implementation of sanctions aren't done. There was even one who died of electrocution doing the act of stealing electricity.

What's worse we legal payers are paying for those stolen electricity passed as "system losses". (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/14.gif)

No offense to you OBR. (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/15.gif)

No offense taken Doc. In my case it wasn't a "system loss" or theft as I had my own meter & paid the site share of my neighbours bill  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 31, 2014 at 06:07 PM
Update :- Old audio rack assembled & a couple of pics with the 2 racks side by side. I've encountered my 1st problem in that if I use the racks I will have problems siting the acoustic panels. Preliminary measurements show that a purpose built rack will be 7 " shorter & will help with the acoustic panel install so I hope to get that sorted tomorrow.

(https://i.imgur.com/L79w7RZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QkmafnA.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 05, 2014 at 06:29 PM
Update :- I've been told we may have power by the weekend but I'm not holding my breath. Have taken the opportunity to get some retouching done in the HT room before the painters went but it's like a greenhouse in there so work definitely suspended until we have power. It's very frustrating but it has allowed me to make a snagging list (punch list I think you call it here) for the completion of the house. The wife is arranging a house blessing so our move is imminent  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 11, 2014 at 08:03 AM
Update :- Bad news guys & gals, VECO have refused a temporary power connection so I will have to wait till 1st week in December. The only good thing about it is the cost will be about a third of what I was expecting. The existing power line is currently overloaded & down for upgrading so VECO has agreed to bring this program forward & incorporate my load so I will not need my own transformer.
So things on hold for 3 more weeks - frustrating   :( :( :(.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Nov 11, 2014 at 11:32 AM
What is the reason for refusal sir? Every house construction is entitled for a temporary power connection, in which such permit is being issued by the building official. the owner can file his application for the TPC after the building permit is issued by the BO. So the service provider should comply to the order by the BO...the certificate of TPC would bear the time frame in which, how long you intend to use the TPC....
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Nov 11, 2014 at 11:41 AM
" The existing power line is currently overloaded & down for upgrading"

That's the reason.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 11, 2014 at 09:28 PM
What is the reason for refusal sir? Every house construction is entitled for a temporary power connection, in which such permit is being issued by the building official. the owner can file his application for the TPC after the building permit is issued by the BO. So the service provider should comply to the order by the BO...the certificate of TPC would bear the time frame in which, how long you intend to use the TPC....

Hi sovrain, I have the endorsement from the Municipal Hall for the temporary supply but after inspection VECO have decided that the build is too far advanced to comply. As the supply would be fairly low current compared to my requirements & I would have the ability to overload it they refused, they also probably took into account that I was applying for a permanent supply at the same time. They are not bothered that we will have 4/5 weeks of inactivity & need power to complete the house. It's very frustrating but not a lot I can do   :(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 11, 2014 at 09:45 PM
" The existing power line is currently overloaded & down for upgrading"

That's the reason.

That probably had a lot to do with it Gino, power outages through negligence or bad judgement go against the engineers & management (I'm told) so I don't really blame them. The good news is they've brought the upgrade forward, will incorporate my load & will save me a lot of cash but sooooooooooh very frustrating.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Nov 12, 2014 at 11:54 AM
I am reminded of my officemate. Being the last guy to build on his street he had to buy his own power line post he he.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 12, 2014 at 05:43 PM
I am reminded of my officemate. Being the last guy to build on his street he had to buy his own power line post he he.

One of the requirements of the connection is we move the power line post 4 feet & increase the height of the concrete column by 5 feet. My post was already a foot higher than the neighbours so now it'll be 2/3 feet higher. The column I can understand - to take the extra weight of the cable required for my line but don't quite understand the extra overall height   ???
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Nov 12, 2014 at 10:28 PM
That is quite odd. I am assuming your neighbor's cables will be connected to the same lines.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 13, 2014 at 06:34 AM
That is quite odd. I am assuming your neighbor's cables will be connected to the same lines.

Yes it is odd Gino, my repositioned post will be 1 M + higher than my neighbours. Our feed will be taken from the post opposite our driveway but my neighbours feed comes from the next post downstream. There is a drop in that direction so it may be VECO wanting my post the same height as my feed post, I'll have to check when the column has been completed.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 13, 2014 at 10:02 PM
A new development & even more frustration. Although we have the routing slip & receipt VECO will not authorise their accredited electrical contractor to start the meter installation until they have a copy of the occupancy permit, which means the upgrade is also on hold. The Municipal hall is giving us the runaround with the permit so my architect is trying to sweet talk them, until we get it we are at a standstill  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 13, 2014 at 10:11 PM
C'mon! That's a simple occupancy permit?! Why don't they spend REAL time to inspect your home once and for all. Can't they even consider that they are allowing landless individuals w/o building permit access to electricity whereas you, trying to follow every last building law, legitimately is having a difficult time?! Talk about patriotism. You're like going again in circles with those paper works.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Nov 13, 2014 at 10:52 PM
Get used to it. The runaround is a scheme so you cough up some tokens.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 14, 2014 at 09:07 AM
C'mon! That's a simple occupancy permit?! Why don't they spend REAL time to inspect your home once and for all. Can't they even consider that they are allowing landless individuals w/o building permit access to electricity whereas you, trying to follow every last building law, legitimately is having a difficult time?! Talk about patriotism. You're like going again in circles with those paper works.

Also my feelings Nelson, the annoying thing is the inspection for occupancy was done 2 weeks ago, everything is OK but the excuse for not issuing is "the engineers are out of the office". VECO I cant understand, I'm willing to pay the installation deposit, the line has to be upgraded anyway (without me involved) but they will not start or allow my meter to be installed until they have a copy of the occupancy certificate. Also the contractor has now asked for our marriage certificate & my id which is at the bureau of immigration with my visa application. I'm trying to keep cool but it's testing my patience, the wife is doing a good job keeping me away from the Municipal Hall in case I lose my temper.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 14, 2014 at 09:18 AM
Get used to it. The runaround is a scheme so you cough up some tokens.

I thought I had Gino, the payment at every little stage is unusual for me but after almost 2 years I'm sort of used to it. The real frustration is that we're that close to completion & every time we fulfill the requirements for something at the return visit the requirements have changed.
As I say very frustrating - I do want to be in the new house for Xmas  :-\
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: sovrain on Nov 14, 2014 at 09:38 AM
Also my feelings Nelson, the annoying thing is the inspection for occupancy was done 2 weeks ago, everything is OK but the excuse for not issuing is "the engineers are out of the office". VECO I cant understand, I'm willing to pay the installation deposit, the line has to be upgraded anyway (without me involved) but they will not start or allow my meter to be installed until they have a copy of the occupancy certificate. Also the contractor has now asked for our marriage certificate & my id which is at the bureau of immigration with my visa application. I'm trying to keep cool but it's testing my patience, the wife is doing a good job keeping me away from the Municipal Hall in case I lose my temper.
kakalungkot naman, the certificate of occupancy together with the certificate of final electrical inspection should be released on same day with the inspection, unless may problema, such as, the finished house is not in conformity with the submitted plans and specifications...pwede mo silang ireklamo in line with ARTA, anti red tape act, kung tama lahat ng documents....
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 14, 2014 at 04:59 PM
kakalungkot naman, the certificate of occupancy together with the certificate of final electrical inspection should be released on same day with the inspection, unless may problema, such as, the finished house is not in conformity with the submitted plans and specifications...pwede mo silang ireklamo in line with ARTA, anti red tape act, kung tama lahat ng documents....

I agree sovrain, I do not mind a few days between the inspection & issuing occupancy certificate but after 2 weeks they say follow up next week (which is what they said last week) is ridiculous, especially when it is a requirement for a power installation. hopefully things will be sorted next week.
I've just come back from site & the electrical contractor has started work & fitted a box into the wall which I presume will be used for joining the cables from the pole. Also I've had a good look at the post opposite my car port & it is the 1st for branching off to the local houses which means I will effectively be the nearest to the transformer so less likely to have problems from other peoples loads  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 20, 2014 at 12:17 PM
Some good news, I have seen the occupancy certificate & is now back at the Municipal Hall with my application for a permanent supply, I need the endorsement before VECO will officially recognise the job. The other good thing is the acredited electrician has already started so we'll save a few days when VECO finally start moving.   
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: xgh0st12x on Nov 20, 2014 at 12:48 PM
Good news indeed obr. Anxiously waiting for a future post from you that starts with "FINALLY..."
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Nov 20, 2014 at 01:00 PM
Good to know. Huwat na lang dutay.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 20, 2014 at 06:09 PM
Good news indeed obr. Anxiously waiting for a future post from you that starts with "FINALLY..."

Thanks ghost, I'm also waiting to post - "the opening night"  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 20, 2014 at 06:10 PM
Good to know. Huwat na lang dutay.

I'm trying to be patient Gino but it's hard   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 20, 2014 at 06:19 PM
Photos of the new power intake post.

Before VECO's visit. The black post was on the column behind.

(https://i.imgur.com/jRhJiV5.jpg)

2 photos of the new set up. Light will now be on the column behind.

(https://i.imgur.com/BusfkwY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vkG3Aey.jpg)


Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Nov 20, 2014 at 09:51 PM
Good to know. Huwat na lang dutay.

kahibawo diay ka magbisaya bai?  :D

Photos of the new power intake post.

Before VECO's visit. The black post was on the column behind.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Nov72014002_zps8fe47a79.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Nov72014002_zps8fe47a79.jpg.html)

2 photos of the new set up. Light will now be on the column behind.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Nov202014001_zpse8c58abd.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Nov202014001_zpse8c58abd.jpg.html)

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Nov202014002_zps55388c71.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Nov202014002_zps55388c71.jpg.html)



im happy for you with the development here OBR.
by the way you have a very nice house.  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 21, 2014 at 09:01 AM
kahibawo diay ka magbisaya bai?  :D

im happy for you with the development here OBR.
by the way you have a very nice house.  :)

Thanx nolax, it's been good to see something happening after a few weeks of inactivity. Glad you like the house, I think it has turned out quite well  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: timber715 on Nov 22, 2014 at 02:40 AM
Looks like you are getting a better option with the installation Obr.... Congrats!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 22, 2014 at 07:48 AM
Looks like you are getting a better option with the installation Obr.... Congrats!

I think you're right timber, it will certainly be a lot stronger & less like a lightning conductor  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 28, 2014 at 06:12 PM
Good news, signed the VECO contract yesterday, connection 10 - 15 days then 2/3 days to enable the meter  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Nov 28, 2014 at 06:49 PM
That's good news. It should be a fine Christmas for your family.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 29, 2014 at 07:46 AM
That's good news. It should be a fine Christmas for your family.

Hi Gino, yes it should be a good one thanx. I will have a lot of work to do to get both the HT & the Audio set up properly before the celebrations. I have a friend whose just arrived & will spend 6 months touring PH on a motorbike but will be spending Xmas with us so I will enlist his help  ;) :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: timber715 on Nov 29, 2014 at 11:48 PM
Good news, signed the VECO contract yesterday, connection 10 - 15 days then 2/3 days to enable the meter  ;D
Not yet there but....... FINALLY!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 30, 2014 at 09:00 AM
Not yet there but....... FINALLY!

You're right timber, at least I now have a target date & can start to organise things. I've had my Cambridge Audio 851E & the 2 851W's in store for the last 10 months (house is 8 months overdue) so I've decided to power them up to make sure all is OK before the warranties run out  ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 01, 2014 at 02:06 AM
More good news, powered up the 2 CA 851W's & 851E & all working great  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 01, 2014 at 07:33 AM
More good news, powered up the 2 CA 851W's & 851E & all working great  ;D ;D ;D

That is great news! Keep em running for more than an hour just to be sure.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 01, 2014 at 06:03 PM
That is great news! Keep em running for more than an hour just to be sure.

Thanx Nelson, did that but one of the 851's has a slight problem, I can't remove the XLR from the right input, it's stuck fast. Had it been the left it would not have been a problem, as I am biamping only the left input will be used. I've sent a message to Cambridge Audio requesting advice so waiting patiently   :(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Dec 01, 2014 at 06:33 PM

OBR, it's good to know that the power connection issue has been sorted out and you'll move in on time for the X-mas holidays... ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 02, 2014 at 08:02 AM
OBR, it's good to know that the power connection issue has been sorted out and you'll move in on time for the X-mas holidays... ;D

Thanx audiojunkie, if it all goes to plan power will be on Dec 10 - 15th. There are still quite a few jobs on the punch list that require the use of electrical tools but I think we will be moving in a week before Xmas   ;D ;D ;D. I hope to have all the HT & Audio set up before we move so a lot of work for me  :). 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 03, 2014 at 10:22 AM
Be safe. New typhoon is brewing.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Dec 03, 2014 at 12:14 PM
Too much coffee, Nelson. It's affecting your replies.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 03, 2014 at 01:10 PM
Too much coffee, Nelson. It's affecting your replies.

Haha! naglimit na nga ako to 2x a day.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 03, 2014 at 06:14 PM
Be safe. New typhoon is brewing.

Thanx for the heads up Nelson, the wife has just told me one is heading our way. Don't worry we'll be OK I'll make sure everything is locked down.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 04, 2014 at 06:06 PM
Too much coffee, Nelson. It's affecting your replies.

 ;D We used to have a product in the UK called Typhoo but it was tea but very close to a Ruby.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 04, 2014 at 06:09 PM
More progress, VECO turned up today & fitted the current transformers, meter box & conduit drop to the meter box. Waiting with anticipation  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Weng! on Dec 05, 2014 at 03:14 AM
you have a very nice house sir OBR
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 05, 2014 at 09:21 AM
you have a very nice house sir OBR

Thanx Weng, it's turned out a little better than expected. All through the past year the boss has been saying she can't imagine the house finished but now she's really excited & can't wait to move in  ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 05, 2014 at 05:48 PM
Everything battened down today so just waiting for Ruby  :-\.
Acoustic panels for the Audio system arrived today so I shall be back at the house tomorrow installing them. If I get finished I'll take a few pics  :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 08, 2014 at 12:59 PM
Checked the house last night & no problems - thank you Lord.
Marked the acoustic panel positions in the living room & will start sticking the Velcro pads on the wall this afternoon.
I have Latex paint on the walls & in 4 places the paint has peeled off with the masking tape so a bit of retouching to do   >:(.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Dec 08, 2014 at 01:45 PM
Good to know things are ok.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 08, 2014 at 02:24 PM
Good to know things are ok.

Thanx Gino, nolax may have incurred some damage so it will be good to hear from him.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Dec 08, 2014 at 05:13 PM
Hope you and your family's OK, sir...
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Dec 08, 2014 at 05:49 PM
Thanx Gino, nolax may have incurred some damage so it will be good to hear from him.

Thanks. Everything is fine, OBR. Praise God!  :)
Good thing Bantayan island wasnt direct path of Ruby.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 08, 2014 at 07:47 PM
Hope you and your family's OK, sir...

Hi Jen,

Everything is OK thanx, didn't have any high winds just some strong gusts & a little rain no damage at all. I appreciate your thoughts.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 08, 2014 at 07:51 PM
Thanks. Everything is fine, OBR. Praise God!  :)
Good thing Bantayan island wasnt direct path of Ruby.


Good to hear nolax,

Looking at the trajectory I wasn't sure if you would be in the damage envelope but glad all's OK.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 09, 2014 at 10:34 PM
Paid a visit to Ferdie at Sounds & Images today, had a listen to the new Accuphase A70 amp - impressive. Also auditioned some Wireworld XLR leads, being a bit of a skeptic about interconnects I was gobsmacked at the difference between 2 very close in the range. I ended up buying the Equinox 7 so I will have fun when I set up the audio system. As I have an XLR stuck in one of the amp inputs I've decided to leave it there & get another pair of leads hence the Equinox   ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Dec 10, 2014 at 07:14 PM
Just curious, did you recently plug the XLR on the amp or was it on the amp during long storage. If it was the latter, in likelihood the metals had galvanized. Practically welded by corrosion. If that is the case, the XLR will have to be sacrificed and peeled off. Major Dremel work. It might be easier to replace the jack from the amp.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 10, 2014 at 11:39 PM
Just curious, did you recently plug the XLR on the amp or was it on the amp during long storage. If it was the latter, in likelihood the metals had galvanized. Practically welded by corrosion. If that is the case, the XLR will have to be sacrificed and peeled off. Major Dremel work. It might be easier to replace the jack from the amp.

Hi Gino, the amps (brand new) have been in storage for 11 months so decided to power up before the warranty ran out. The XLR was also brand new & came out of the 1st amp OK so I can only presume the locking mechanism is faulty on the amp. Cambridge Audio have advised it can be repaired under warranty or if I can get the connector out by destroying it they will authorise a replacement interconnect. As they cost me P7K a pair in the UK & I would have an odd one that is handy.
I've opened the amp up & it is a major operation to remove the connector from the circuit board. I think the favorite will be to carefully destroy the plug as the way I'm setting up the system the faulty input will not be used.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 16, 2014 at 09:02 PM
Acoustic panels now fitted to the front wall of the audio listening area.
I'm hanging the panels with Velcro.

Velcro pads stuck to the wall prior to panel fitment

(https://i.imgur.com/fFSKlZa.jpg)

Panels in position.

(https://i.imgur.com/K2GNJxs.jpg)

Any members hanging panels in the same way be warned that the wall pad may come away with the paint when the panel is removed. I used Bostik Rugby to stick the pads to the wall & in places my Latex paintwork lifted. I would recommend a layer of Gypsum board be added to the wall so the pads can also be stapled.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Dec 17, 2014 at 01:36 PM
OK, here we go.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 17, 2014 at 09:03 PM
OK, here we go.

Hi Gino, yes things are moving. Veco's schedule is to have power available on Friday or before. 2 contractors were investigating at lunchtime so they are on the job  ;D Once the power is on my 1st job will be to complete the HT room. I removed the acoustic panels for some experimenting but ended up damaging some of the paintwork. The retouching has been done but I have 56 panels to put up, at least I'll have some air con. & lights while working, hopefully the audio system will be set up before Xmas. We've got the wife's parents arriving on Sunday so they can help house cleaning & unboxing leaving me to my toys  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Dec 17, 2014 at 09:21 PM
Sounds like it's going to be a pleasant holidays for you guys.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 17, 2014 at 09:23 PM
Sounds like it's going to be a pleasant holidays for you guys.

After the hard work, yes Gino.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 19, 2014 at 06:04 PM
Another setback guys, Veco are now 8 days behind supplying power, they are blaming typhoon Ruby & we still don't know if it will be on for Xmas  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(.
Everything's on hold till the power's on  :( :( :(.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 22, 2014 at 06:57 PM
More grief, visited VECO this morning the excuse for the delay is now 'the contractor does not have the materials'. I am rather proud of myself, I kept my cool (not so the boss, she was very angry) & negotiated a temporary supply for Xmas. They will arrive tomorrow & install the meter at the same time but it may carry over to the 24th. It looks as though I've got a lot of work to do in the next 2 days, hopefully there will be some watching & listening over the holiday  ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Dec 22, 2014 at 09:04 PM
Oh my. Nothing went easy for you guys. I hope it works out.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 23, 2014 at 07:20 AM
Oh my. Nothing went easy for you guys. I hope it works out.

You're right Gino, everything was going along quite nicely until VECO cut our line to the neighbour, it's been all up hill since then. There will still be a fair bit of work for the architect to do but after the 24th I'll have to pay another months rent so going to suffer in the new house instead of in our rented accommodation   ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 26, 2014 at 06:43 PM
A belated Merry Xmas to you all, things have been very hectic. Full power connection completed late on Wednesday, worked all through the night to be ready for the move to our new house. Moved Xmas Eve, no internet water & a few electrical problems appeared. Audio system up & running but the bad news is the 85" Panny has developed a fault, power indicator turns from green to red after the self check & gives 4 blinks then pause, this repeats. Haven't had much time to search but on other Panny's it appears to be a problem with the power board. I have only just got internet up & running so will be able to start searching.
Again hope you all had a good holiday  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 26, 2014 at 07:05 PM
Merry Christmas sir OBR. I hope the TV will be up and running SOON :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 26, 2014 at 07:49 PM
Merry Christmas sir OBR. I hope the TV will be up and running SOON :)
Also to you Louie, Merry Xmas. I just hope it is repairable here in Cebu otherwise it will turn out to be an expensive mistake  :( :( :(.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Dec 26, 2014 at 10:01 PM
Merry Christmas. Good to know you got power. It should eventually work out.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 27, 2014 at 07:57 AM
Belated Merry Christmas OBR! I hope your TV will be repaired.  I also had the same problem with my LG plasma. I had the power board repaired everytime. I get to pay P6k-7k per repair. The 3rd time it gave up, they used the 110V line (as it is autovolt) and I never had a problem eversince.  I just need to have a step down transformer everytime.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 27, 2014 at 11:09 PM
Merry Christmas. Good to know you got power. It should eventually work out.

Belated Merry Xmas Gino, the guys did well getting the power done - very happy. All I've got to do is get the Panny repaired + get the phone & internet put on, been let down badly with that but as you say should eventually work out.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 27, 2014 at 11:14 PM
Belated Merry Christmas OBR! I hope your TV will be repaired.  I also had the same problem with my LG plasma. I had the power board repaired everytime. I get to pay P6k-7k per repair. The 3rd time it gave up, they used the 110V line (as it is autovolt) and I never had a problem eversince.  I just need to have a step down transformer everytime.

Also a belated Merry Xmas Doc, I shall be contacting Panasonic to see if they have any repairers in Cebu - fingers crossed. In the mean time I have put the 50" Pioneer on the stage so we can still view films   :).
Thanks for the information, I have to wait & see what is recommended.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 27, 2014 at 11:17 PM
Audio system is up & running, burning in the pre amp & 2 main amps. It's a temporary set up as I will have a rack made in the new year. I will take some pics & post tomorrow.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 28, 2014 at 10:00 AM
Wow! Merry christmas and congrats!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Dec 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM
Your backup tv is far bigger than anything I have ever had. Sweet viewing.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 28, 2014 at 03:42 PM
Wow! Merry christmas and congrats!

Thanx Nelson & a belated Merry Xmas to you & your family  :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 28, 2014 at 03:44 PM
Your backup tv is far bigger than anything I have ever had. Sweet viewing.

Thanx Gino, if I can't get the Panny repaired I may be looking at a PJ soon  :-\ ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jh@meeh on Dec 28, 2014 at 03:59 PM
Sony PJ with 120-150 in screen...

Merry xmas and a Happy new year!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 28, 2014 at 04:33 PM
PJ is the way to go. Nothing beats the moviehouse experience.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 29, 2014 at 10:13 AM
Sony PJ with 120-150 in screen...

Merry xmas and a Happy new year!

Belated merry Xmas JH & have a happy & prosperous New Year.
I don't know a lot about PJ's so will have to a lot of research & auditioning. May even have to fly to Manila for more choice  >:D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM
PJ is the way to go. Nothing beats the moviehouse experience.

Your right Doc, I knew it was inevitable but didn't expect to be looking at one quite so soon.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 29, 2014 at 11:14 AM
Your right Doc, I knew it was inevitable but didn't expect to be looking at one quite so soon.

Looking for an upgrade is the fun part. My guess you are already looking at your PJ options. Nyahaha! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/21.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Narayan on Dec 29, 2014 at 01:03 PM
Its good to know that things are slowly but surely settling down at your new place bro. :D A peaceful, healthy and prosperous year ahead for you and your family. 8)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 29, 2014 at 01:07 PM
Sony VPL-HW1100es/600es or JVC RS67u and 120" Screen Innovations Black Diamond Screen... FOR THE WIN sir OBR >:D

Super Happy New Year ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 29, 2014 at 07:15 PM
Looking for an upgrade is the fun part. My guess you are already looking at your PJ options. Nyahaha! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/21.gif)

To be honest Doc I won't start looking untill I know that the Panny cannot be repaired. I'll just have to suffer with my 50" pioneer for the moment  :(.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 29, 2014 at 07:19 PM
Its good to know that things are slowly but surely settling down at your new place bro. :D A peaceful, healthy and prosperous year ahead for you and your family. 8)

Thanx sir Obet, a belated Merry Xmas to you & your family & may you have a great new Year.
Things are settling down slowly, we're still unpacking boxes & have work going on off the punch list. A little touching up still needs to be done before I can refit the acoustic panels. I'll get there but frustrating after waiting for power for 2 months.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 29, 2014 at 07:41 PM
Sony VPL-HW1100es/600es or JVC RS67u and 120" Screen Innovations Black Diamond Screen... FOR THE WIN sir OBR >:D

Super Happy New Year ;D

Thanx for the information Louie, I'll need all the help I can get with PJ's. I don't know anything about the PJ's that have come on the market over the last 2 years so I'll be a bit of a novice. JVC used to be the best PJ's but I'm not so sure now.
A belated Merry Xmas to you & your family & have a happy & prosperous New Year  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 30, 2014 at 10:26 AM
A few hurried pics of the temporary audio set up. I will be having a purpose built rack shortly after after Xmas when I'm happy with positioning of the gears. Considering it's a living area the SQ at the moment is not bad so satisfied for the moment.

(https://i.imgur.com/1MqXvJ2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KRxYwvx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/K1QVkaA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EhQLL3y.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iGwcPou.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vvGeEpl.jpg)








Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 30, 2014 at 01:31 PM
Looking at it is already a statement. Even for non audiophiliac visitors would admire it as an elegant piece of furniture. I would surmise the performance is audio nirvana.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Dec 31, 2014 at 12:54 AM
that's a very nice "temporary" audio setup you have, OBR! :)  what brand and model are the floorstanders? also, is that a GoldenEar ForceField subwoofer I see with them?  :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: magnum5 on Dec 31, 2014 at 03:29 PM
...super handsome set up george,,and to thinks just "temporary: ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 31, 2014 at 04:28 PM
Looking at it is already a statement. Even for non audiophiliac visitors would admire it as an elegant piece of furniture. I would surmise the performance is audio nirvana.

Thanx Doc, yes it sounds pretty good at the moment considering I'm still burning in. I have one visitors quote "it's sounds pretty damn good to me". I'll update with the SQ in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 31, 2014 at 05:41 PM
that's a very nice "temporary" audio setup you have, OBR! :)  what brand and model are the floorstanders? also, is that a GoldenEar ForceField subwoofer I see with them?  :D

Thanx DTNS, temporary in the respect that the rack dimensions are not correct, It was my HT rack in the UK so needs some modifications. The amps run hot so I need a rack I can fit cooling fans to.
Yes that's a GoldenEar, well spotted, a ForceField 4.
The floorstanders are Mordaunt Short - Performance 6 LE  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 31, 2014 at 05:55 PM
...super handsome set up george,,and to thinks just "temporary: ;)

Thanx magnum, I've got to be sure I've got the right gears in the correct positions, there are 13 pieces of kit including the 50" TV which will sit on top of the rack. There is a smaller rack to the right of the right speaker, at the moment it houses the turntable, music server, NAS server & wireless router.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 31, 2014 at 06:11 PM
I've started celebrating, a happy New Year to you all & may it be very prosperous   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: stevesonk on Dec 31, 2014 at 07:00 PM
I've started celebrating, a happy New Year to you all & may it be very prosperous   ;D ;D ;D
putukan na....!!!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 31, 2014 at 07:24 PM
putukan na....!!!  ;D  ;D  ;D

Thanx steve  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: pchin on Dec 31, 2014 at 07:38 PM
A few hurried pics of the temporary audio set up. I will be having a purpose built rack shortly after after Xmas when I'm happy with positioning of the gears. Considering it's a living area the SQ at the moment is not bad so satisfied for the moment.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Dec292014001_zps14c1fc3f.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Dec292014001_zps14c1fc3f.jpg.html)

Awesome gears bro! Wishing you & family a Happy New Year! More power to your setup! :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 31, 2014 at 08:05 PM
Awesome gears bro! Wishing you & family a Happy New Year! More power to your setup! :)

Thanx pchin, may you & your family also have a happy & prosperous new year.
On the power front the speakers are bi amped & I estimate 350 - 400W per channel.
Sounds sweet  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Jan 02, 2015 at 04:51 AM
good looking set of equipment OBR. i hope i can visit your place someday. :)
happy new year!!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 02, 2015 at 08:40 AM
good looking set of equipment OBR. i hope i can visit your place someday. :)
happy new year!!

Thanx nolax, you're welcome any time. I will PM you.  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Jan 02, 2015 at 04:09 PM
Happy New Year, OBR!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 02, 2015 at 08:05 PM
Happy New Year, OBR!

Thanx oReOsHaKe & a happy & prosperous new year to you & your family.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 13, 2015 at 07:18 PM
About time I updated this thread, I've been busy working for the boss to get the house & all my belongings sorted.
Good & bad news :-
Bad - I had the HT room door locked overnight for about 2 months while we were without power & the room has been attacked by mold/mildew. I've spent a day cleaning down with oxygen bleach to kill it but will go over the walls again with a 'tea tree oil' solution which will help to prevent further outbreaks. I am considering using a dehumidifier whilst the room is empty as I have no real way of ventilating the room. It's the one thing I didn't think of, it's not something I've experienced before. The A.C. has a dehumidifying setting so that will be OK while watching films.
Good - The wall painting has been completed & I have the acoustic panels refitted to the walls.
The best news of all is I have a technician recommended by Panasonic coming tomorrow to attempt a repair on the 85" plasma. Talking to the technician it sounds promising, P2.5K for the visit & P5K for the repair. Fingers & legs crossed everyone  :)
The louvre's to cover the AC unit had to go back as the remote wouldn't work, having a 3" strip of wire mesh fitted at the bottom so hopefully that will solve the problem.
As soon as the HT room is back to normal I'll take some pics now I have a tripod for the camera.
   
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jan 13, 2015 at 07:59 PM
My home audio room was the same whennI reclaimed it. I wiped hard surfaces clean, brought out chairs for sunning. Washed the cushions. I let lots of sunshine in. I kept fans to keep air moving. In due time it cleared up.

Molds like:

1. stagnant air
2. lack of UV
3. humidity

Fight these and it should be gone. You need to keep using the room with air moving to prevent reinfestation.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 13, 2015 at 08:51 PM
My home audio room was the same whennI reclaimed it. I wiped hard surfaces clean, brought out chairs for sunning. Washed the cushions. I let lots of sunshine in. I kept fans to keep air moving. In due time it cleared up.

Molds like:

1. stagnant air
2. lack of UV
3. humidity

Fight these and it should be gone. You need to keep using the room with air moving to prevent reinfestation.

Thanx for that Gino,
In the UK it's only present under extreme conditions, I must admit I never gave it a thought. I've spent a lot of time searching the net for ways of preventing it's re appearance & decided on a regime to prevent further growth. Hopefully I'll keep it under control.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jan 13, 2015 at 09:11 PM
My room has two doors which I leave open when not in use. 2-3 times a week I leave than fan on a few minutes. I use the room that much, no need to use the fans. I leave the blinds open to let sunshine in. Never had problems since.

Mold likes leather. If you have leather, clean it regularly or avoid it altogether.

The country is very humid and any room near ground level will eventually get it. They come from contaminated  furniture and construction supply. No way around it. That is why I avoided pads in my room. I had my sofa wrapped in vinyl that looks like leather. Everything I have in my room is hard enough to be wiped clean.

My top rooms are hot. They don't get molds.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 14, 2015 at 09:15 AM
My room has two doors which I leave open when not in use. 2-3 times a week I leave than fan on a few minutes. I use the room that much, no need to use the fans. I leave the blinds open to let sunshine in. Never had problems since.

Mold likes leather. If you have leather, clean it regularly or avoid it altogether.

The country is very humid and any room near ground level will eventually get it. They come from contaminated  furniture and construction supply. No way around it. That is why I avoided pads in my room. I had my sofa wrapped in vinyl that looks like leather. Everything I have in my room is hard enough to be wiped clean.

My top rooms are hot. They don't get molds.

I only have the 1 entrance & no windows so the room doesn't get any sun or air circulation unless I stand a fan in the doorway to act as an extract. It's the only room in the house that needs forced circulation. I'm leaving the doors open at the moment & with a wipe over with a 'tea tree oil' solution hope it will prevent further growth. I'll be doing regular vacuum cleaning, I've decided the HT room & Audio set up is my domain for cleaning. I have no leather & the seats are fabric but I'll be attacking them with the vacuum cleaner so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jan 14, 2015 at 10:40 AM
You will not be able to remove mold 100%. Welcome to the Philippines. But you can manage it. Don't go OC on getting rid of it. You will go mad.

The doors can be closed. Air need not be evacuated. Air just needs to move around. Run an oscillating fan to air it out with the door closed. Run the AC at least once a week. Spores are sucked into the AC. Being damp and unused, it gets populated. Running it airs it out too.

It's a shocker no doubt but it can be managed. The key is room use. The more it is used, the more molds are controlled.

I tell you my reclaimed room was the worst case scenario. I got it back.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: beringin on Jan 14, 2015 at 01:46 PM
Sir OBR perhaps a dehumidifier will help maintain the moisture inside the room and a UV light will kill mold spores. Both of which are available locally, though i am not sure on where to source. Perhaps Ace hardware will be a good start.

http://allergyclean.com/article-youhavemold.htm

Found 1 in olx

http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/65773273/Kolin+DeHumidifier+KDM-18?referralKeywords=dehumidifier&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-1,1

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 14, 2015 at 02:11 PM
You will not be able to remove mold 100%. Welcome to the Philippines. But you can manage it. Don't go OC on getting rid of it. You will go mad.

The doors can be closed. Air need not be evacuated. Air just needs to move around. Run an oscillating fan to air it out with the door closed. Run the AC at least once a week. Spores are sucked into the AC. Being damp and unused, it gets populated. Running it airs it out too.

It's a shocker no doubt but it can be managed. The key is room use. The more it is used, the more molds are controlled.

I tell you my reclaimed room was the worst case scenario. I got it back.

Thanks for the information Gino, I've checked this morning & no sign of contamination so I'm doing something right. Unfortunately the room won't be used for a while but I will put the AC on & run the ceiling fan.
85" screen update, 2 of the 3 power boards need replacing, waiting for the quotation to come through. Don't know whether I'll watch any films because the Panny is in bits on the floor between the stage & 1st row of seats. If I do it'll mean sitting in the back row which may be a bit far for the 50" screen.
If parts are in Manila 5 days otherwise 3/4 weeks   >:(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jan 14, 2015 at 02:21 PM
Sorry to hear about the tv. But good news it can be fixed. Just bite the bullet. Good to hear your room infection is controlled.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 14, 2015 at 04:36 PM
Sir OBR perhaps a dehumidifier will help maintain the moisture inside the room and a UV light will kill mold spores. Both of which are available locally, though i am not sure on where to source. Perhaps Ace hardware will be a good start.

http://allergyclean.com/article-youhavemold.htm

Found 1 in olx

http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/65773273/Kolin+DeHumidifier+KDM-18?referralKeywords=dehumidifier&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-1,1

Thanks for that berigin, I thought of running a dehumidifier but I have a dehumidifier setting on my Air Con so coupled with the fact that the mold hasn't returned after 2/3 weeks I will probably forget that idea. Using a UV light is hit & miss, it kills some spores quickly but others a lot slower & also depends on light intensity.
Thanx for the thought & your effort in posting help.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 14, 2015 at 04:48 PM
Sorry to hear about the tv. But good news it can be fixed. Just bite the bullet. Good to hear your room infection is controlled.

Thanx Gino, the question will be do I pay for the repair or go down the PJ route. I have a funny feeling this will be expensive but I've got everything crossed. Still waiting for the quotation, apparently the company's internet is down in Manila so may not get the cost till tomorrow morning. It's a bit ominous a power supply failing after approximately 2 months of use. The only good side is I can repair the boards & then have good spares, the down side to this is the manhandling of the screen & removal of the front speakers to make room. We had a casualty this morning, when we took the screen down (6 of us) one of the brackets came adrift & hit the center speaker & damaged one of the edges. It will not affect it's operation but aggravating all the same   >:( >:( >:(.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 14, 2015 at 06:14 PM
Do you use servo type voltage regulators?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 14, 2015 at 09:24 PM
Do you use servo type voltage regulators?

Yes Nelson, one for the HT & one for the Audio system but they were not up & running when the display developed the fault. I may be suffering the after effects of some dodgy power but the problem happened after the new line was put in. I have been monitoring the supply & it's pretty stable so who knows. As Gino says I may have to bite the bullet & see what warranty I'll be given.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 18, 2015 at 11:21 AM
Screen update,

Still waiting for a quote for the 2 power boards that are needed. Due to upgrading their repairer cannot access the Panasonic system (or so they say). I've mailed Panasonic direct to see if they can speed things up.
The HT room is laying dormant at the moment giving me some time to clean & also please the boss doing odd jobs around the house  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 18, 2015 at 02:12 PM
Screen update,

Still waiting for a quote for the 2 power boards that are needed. Due to upgrading they repairer cannot access the Panasonic system (or so they say). I've mailed Panasonic direct to see if they can speed things up.
The HT room is laying dormant at the moment giving me some time to clean & also please the boss doing odd jobs around the house  :)

Also gives you a lot of time to contemplate on getting a PJ. Speaking of which, I just remembered there's a Panny PJ for sale at the marketplace by courage. If just recently lowered his price. That would be a good opportunity to test a PJ without hurting your pocket.

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 18, 2015 at 09:23 PM
Also gives you a lot of time to contemplate on getting a PJ. Speaking of which, I just remembered there's a Panny PJ for sale at the marketplace by courage. If just recently lowered his price. That would be a good opportunity to test a PJ without hurting your pocket.

You're absolutely right Nelson except it's giving me too much time to think about a PJ. If I have a power board failure after effectively 2 months use it doesn't bode well for the future. The cost of the repair will dictate whether or not I go down the PJ route now. I will check courage's PJ in the marketplace as I should hear within the next couple of days.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Jan 18, 2015 at 10:49 PM
You're absolutely right Nelson except it's giving me too much time to think about a PJ. If I have a power board failure after effectively 2 months use it doesn't bode well for the future. The cost of the repair will dictate whether or not I go down the PJ route now. I will check courage's PJ in the marketplace as I should hear within the next couple of days.

Courage (Jason)'s PJ gets my vote! :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 19, 2015 at 07:59 AM
Courage (Jason)'s PJ gets my vote! :D

Thanx DTNS.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 19, 2015 at 10:43 PM
Courage (Jason)'s PJ gets my vote! :D

Hi DTNS,
Checked out the PJ, looks good - thanx for the heads up.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Jan 19, 2015 at 10:46 PM
Hi DTNS,
Checked out the PJ, looks good - thanx for the heads up.

Cheers! :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 19, 2015 at 10:49 PM
The quotation for the screen repair has come in at P66,150 - ouch, a very big ouch.
I have mailed Panasonic & questioned the reliability of their product, I wouldn't have expected it to fail with under 300 hours usage. Awaiting replies from them & their service centre.  :( >:( :( >:( :( >:(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 19, 2015 at 10:53 PM
The quotation for the screen repair has come in at P66,150 - ouch, a very big ouch.
I have mailed Panasonic & questioned the reliability of their product, I wouldn't have expected it to fail with under 300 hours usage. Awaiting replies from them & their service centre.  :( >:( :( >:( :( >:(

Wow. Its like fate! Imagine the cost of the PJ vs the cost of repair?!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 20, 2015 at 11:55 AM
Wow. Its like fate! Imagine the cost of the PJ vs the cost of repair?!

Yes Nelson, Jason's panny PJ is about the same as the repair cost. Do I repair & sell on or do I put it on the scrap heap, that is the question. I'm waiting to see what answer I get from Panasonic  :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jan 20, 2015 at 12:45 PM
Damn. Tough decision.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 20, 2015 at 10:59 PM
Damn. Tough decision.

You're telling me Gino :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 20, 2015 at 11:09 PM
You're telling me Gino :-\ :-\ :-\

it's sold. I guess you bought it already. Hehe!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 21, 2015 at 08:42 AM
it's sold. I guess you bought it already. Hehe!

Nope.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jan 21, 2015 at 08:48 AM
Good. Coming from a faulty tv, the last thing you want is a used unit with questionable warranty.

Whatever path you take, having a warranty will give you peace of mind for the duration of the warranty. Never mind how it will fair beyond that. Nobody really knows.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 21, 2015 at 05:08 PM
Good. Coming from a faulty tv, the last thing you want is a used unit with questionable warranty.

Whatever path you take, having a warranty will give you peace of mind for the duration of the warranty. Never mind how it will fair beyond that. Nobody really knows.

To be honest Gino I've never purchased used equipment for exactly the reasons you've stated. On the other hand I've quite a few people wanting to buy my equipment when I've upgraded. Even the deputy manager of the shop I used to buy from, I did ask the question why, he replied "your kit is always in pristine condition & you even keep the original boxes". That will change now as I do not have enough storage space  :)
I still haven't heard from Panasonic so the wait is on  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jan 21, 2015 at 06:23 PM
You got the quote. What else is missing from Panasonic?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 21, 2015 at 11:45 PM
You got the quote. What else is missing from Panasonic?

I have expressed my displeasure at the screen failing after around 300 hours use. I have explained that it has been in storage for around 20 months & I am hoping that there may be a little goodwill. I also asked a few questions that I would like answering before committing to the repair. There are only 2 screens of this type in Cebu , mine & the 103" big brother which is owned by an artist, you never know I may be lucky  ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 31, 2015 at 10:46 AM
Update :- After being told by the service center that the parts & repair have no warranty, also if the diagnosis is incorrect there is no refund on the parts & extra payment is required for further investigation + parts needed, I contacted Panasonic again. They have agreed to give a warranty if I go through with the repair & have also contacted Panasonic UK - I presume to see if they will honour the warranty although it has expired & the screen manufacturers to get all possible causes for the problem I have. If I opt for the repair delivery of parts is 60 - 90 days so the screen is going into storage again (in the HT room) & we'll be using the 50" Pioneer sitting on the stage until the situation is resolved. I have been investigating PJ's & screens just in case I need to go down this route. The Panny PT-AE8000 was tempting especially as the the price has been reduced by 25% until Feb. 2, unfortunately cash flow will not allow me to purchase at this time. I've also decided to go for a 2.35:1 screen it will also need to be acoustically transparent as the speakers will sit behind. I'm interested to see what the new DTS audio codec will turn out to be compared to the likes of Atmos & Auro 3D. If I go PJ I will probably incorporate the changes necessary for one of the new codecs, maybe 2015 will bring a major upgrade - a bit sooner than I expected   >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 31, 2015 at 12:33 PM
Well well, I just know something good will come up. So should I say, happy hunting?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jan 31, 2015 at 12:42 PM
I'd chuck the broken tv. It is just not worth the aggravation. It is hard to swallow but in the end you will be a lot happier and sooner.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 31, 2015 at 01:05 PM
I'd chuck the broken tv. It is just not worth the aggravation. It is hard to swallow but in the end you will be a lot happier and sooner.

Chuck =

Quote from: Nelsonpedia
Chuck = A word designating your item to Nelson de Leon. Also sometimes used when generosity is of primary importance. It is often done in favor of goodwill. Said action is usually will result in lesser problems and worries arising from the repair of that particular item. it also designates your uneasiness to Nelson de Leon while waiting for the new incoming gears to arrive.

hth!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: RXV on Jan 31, 2015 at 02:33 PM
Chuck =

hth!

Haha funny! :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 31, 2015 at 07:41 PM
Well well, I just know something good will come up. So should I say, happy hunting?

Thanx Nelson, I'm not actually hunting at the moment but looking seriously at my options  : ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 31, 2015 at 07:42 PM
Chuck =

hth!

Nice try Nelson   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 31, 2015 at 07:46 PM
I'd chuck the broken tv. It is just not worth the aggravation. It is hard to swallow but in the end you will be a lot happier and sooner.

I agree Gino, the sensible part of me says cut my losses but I'm finding it hard to accept the loss of P2.3M worth of gear after very little use. It may come to that but I'll probably fight a little longer.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 31, 2015 at 07:46 PM
Haha funny! :)

I thought so too RXV  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 31, 2015 at 07:53 PM
A little bit of good news, I've just heard from Panasonic & they're (Panasonic Japan) are going to send replacement boards so the repair can be verified before any payment is made. Unfortunate thing is 2 - 3 months delivery. At least it gives me a little time to make alternative plans.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Jan 31, 2015 at 10:05 PM
A little bit of good news, I've just heard from Panasonic & they're (Panasonic Japan) are going to send replacement boards so the repair can be verified before any payment is made. Unfortunate thing is 2 - 3 months delivery. At least it gives me a little time to make alternative plans.

that's good to hear, OBR. :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: dimfer on Feb 01, 2015 at 12:42 AM
I feel your pain OBR, I hope you could enjoy your HT soon
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 01, 2015 at 12:45 AM
I feel your pain OBR, I hope you could enjoy your HT soon

I can "atone" for his pain if given the chance.  ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 01, 2015 at 06:36 PM
that's good to hear, OBR. :)

Thanx DTNS.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 01, 2015 at 06:37 PM
I feel your pain OBR, I hope you could enjoy your HT soon

Thanx dimfer, I live in hope.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 01, 2015 at 06:39 PM
I can "atone" for his pain if given the chance.  ;)

Nelson, I like your style, you've put a smile on my face   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 07, 2015 at 02:45 PM
Update :- While waiting for the screen repair it's given me time to assess what I have done with the HT room. Due to the humidity problem I have decided to replace my acoustic panels. The filling is cellulose fiber, my mistake I did not research & presumed it to be synthetic. On finding some panels have formed a crust under the fabric I researched & found that cellulose fiber is 85% shredded paper & has a high moisture absorbancy. This would account for the panel filling starting to harden under the fabric so to prevent future problems I will redo the acoustics as soon as funds are available. I'm not all together happy with the sound on some BD's but don't know whether it's the acoustic nature of the panels changing due to he hardening of the fiber or I never got it right in the first place. Redoing the panels will kill 2 birds with 1 stone   :( :-[ :'( 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Feb 07, 2015 at 03:15 PM
You may want to look into the Rockwool. It should not be friendly to moisture and micro organisms. Less propensity to cultivate mold. Go with synthetic covering material too. Panels must be removable so you can air them out regularly.

Next step but expensive are quadratic diffusers made from wood. These things you can wipe down when needed. They do occupy a lot of space so it is not for everybody.

None of these of course fixes bass issues. There is simply not enough room there for meaningful bass treatment.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 07, 2015 at 07:16 PM
You may want to look into the Rockwool. It should not be friendly to moisture and micro organisms. Less propensity to cultivate mold. Go with synthetic covering material too. Panels must be removable so you can air them out regularly.

Next step but expensive are quadratic diffusers made from wood. These things you can wipe down when needed. They do occupy a lot of space so it is not for everybody.

None of these of course fixes bass issues. There is simply not enough room there for meaningful bass treatment.

Thanks for that Gino, existing panels are fixed with Velcro so will probably stick with that. It seems that Fiberglass is difficult to source here so Rockwool is favorite. I may stick with my current bass traps, I'm in the process of making removable covers for them. The unfortunate thing is it's going to be slow progress until I've got the house sorted = got to please the boss   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 08, 2015 at 01:53 PM
You may want to look into the Rockwool. It should not be friendly to moisture and micro organisms. Less propensity to cultivate mold. Go with synthetic covering material too. Panels must be removable so you can air them out regularly.

Next step but expensive are quadratic diffusers made from wood. These things you can wipe down when needed. They do occupy a lot of space so it is not for everybody.

None of these of course fixes bass issues. There is simply not enough room there for meaningful bass treatment.

Here is a diffractal diffuser/s that might fit the bill for OBR:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/TLCz4f6a6TbbOCOL4w6h8I42VLQxyhcN7QMDjOoOQH0=s206-p-no)

A little change in color theme would easily make this diffuser blend in OBR's room. Actually, the picture consists of 5 pieces.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 08, 2015 at 02:00 PM
Here is a diffractal diffuser/s that might fit the bill for OBR:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/TLCz4f6a6TbbOCOL4w6h8I42VLQxyhcN7QMDjOoOQH0=s206-p-no)

A little change in color theme would easily make this diffuser blend in OBR's room. Actually, the picture consists of 5 pieces.

Thanx Nelson, I'll be looking at the acoustics a bit closer this time, having jumped a bit last time & things are not quite what I expected. I may remove the filling from some of the panels & experiment with placement but it won't be for a little while yet.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 10, 2015 at 02:16 PM
Heard from Panasonic this morning, the parts for the screen repair have arrived in Manila & should be here by the end of the week. Hopefully the repair can take place next week   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: mykel18 on Feb 10, 2015 at 02:45 PM
Good luck! Hope it gets fixed
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 10, 2015 at 08:07 PM
Good luck! Hope it gets fixed

Thanx mykel   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 16, 2015 at 11:07 AM
Good news, the boards for my screen have arrived in Cebu & the repair will take place this week  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Feb 16, 2015 at 11:32 AM
The Sun shines on Cebu  8)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 16, 2015 at 03:13 PM
The Sun shines on Cebu  8)

Thanx Gino, it will shine even more if the repair does not cost me P66K  ;) :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 16, 2015 at 08:06 PM
just curious, how is your electricity bill? I checked the specs of the 85" Panasonic and noticed that its power consumption is high.

As promised DTNS, my 1st full months bill has come in at P4.33K. We've been using an induction hob for cooking but I will install the gas hob tomorrow so the consumption should go down but will increase with extra usage of the HT room when the screen is repaired  ;D It will take a couple of months to to settle & give me an idea of exact usage. One thing is for sure it's not going to be anywhere near the P22K estimated by VECO.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Feb 16, 2015 at 08:22 PM
As promised DTNS, my 1st full months bill has come in at P4.33K. We've been using an induction hob for cooking but I will install the gas hob tomorrow so the consumption should go down but will increase with extra usage of the HT room when the screen is repaired  ;D It will take a couple of months to to settle & give me an idea of exact usage. One thing is for sure it's not going to be anywhere near the P22K estimated by VECO.

wow. that's not too bad... for now. ;D  I hope your screen gets repaired soon so we all have a better idea of your bill with the plasma tv's usage.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 17, 2015 at 09:12 AM
wow. that's not too bad... for now. ;D  I hope your screen gets repaired soon so we all have a better idea of your bill with the plasma tv's usage.

You said the right thing DTNS 'for now'  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Feb 17, 2015 at 01:18 PM
Update :- While waiting for the screen repair it's given me time to assess what I have done with the HT room. Due to the humidity problem I have decided to replace my acoustic panels. The filling is cellulose fiber, my mistake I did not research & presumed it to be synthetic. On finding some panels have formed a crust under the fabric I researched & found that cellulose fiber is 85% shredded paper & has a high moisture absorbancy. This would account for the panel filling starting to harden under the fabric so to prevent future problems I will redo the acoustics as soon as funds are available. I'm not all together happy with the sound on some BD's but don't know whether it's the acoustic nature of the panels changing due to he hardening of the fiber or I never got it right in the first place. Redoing the panels will kill 2 birds with 1 stone   :( :-[ :'( 

Obd that cellulose fibers are for agri purposes rather than for acoustic detail. Sorry you had to find out the expensive way. Cant blame you since the article attached to that cellulose fiber is actually intended for another material. Kind of misleading, I just dont know if intentional or an honest mistake by the seller.

Pls dont use removeable covers for your panels with fg/rw inserts. It will just make your life more misearble esp after you removed the fabric.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 17, 2015 at 05:23 PM
Obd that cellulose fibers are for agri purposes rather than for acoustic detail. Sorry you had to find out the expensive way. Cant blame you since the article attached to that cellulose fiber is actually intended for another material. Kind of misleading, I just dont know if intentional or an honest mistake by the seller.

Pls dont use removeable covers for your panels with fg/rw inserts. It will just make your life more misearble esp after you removed the fabric.

Hi ricky, I will not be utilising any of the existing panels when I redo the acoustics, there are other reasons for that but not for discussing here. I think cellulose fiber could be used in non humid climates but would be more trial & error when calculating usage. There has been much installation done with FB & RW so starting points can more easily decided.
The only thoughts I had for panel alterations would be to remove the filling from the rear on a few & experiment with repositioning to assess the acoustic change. As the walls already have Velcro attached I could use it to fit non acoustic panels for aesthetic reasons.
Thanx for the advice    :)
 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 17, 2015 at 09:42 PM
What's FB & RW? I'm lost!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Feb 17, 2015 at 10:28 PM
What's FB & RW? I'm lost!

I'm guessing they stand for fiberboard and rockwool?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Feb 17, 2015 at 11:13 PM
What's FB & RW? I'm lost!

My bad , its FG(fiberglass) and RW(rockwool). Dtns yes FB(fiberboard not  facebook hehe)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Feb 17, 2015 at 11:14 PM
My bad , its FG(fiberglass) and RW(rockwool). Dtns yes FB(fiberboard not  facebook hehe)

hahaha!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 18, 2015 at 08:34 AM
My bad , its FG(fiberglass) and RW(rockwool). Dtns yes FB(fiberboard not  facebook hehe)

Hi Guys it's my mistake, ricky was correct in his post with fg. My finger lost it's way (the 'B' key is just below 'G'), I'll have to reread my posts in future   ::) :-[
Maybe I should have written FiberGlass & RockWool  :) 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 18, 2015 at 08:38 AM
Panasonic service center tech. arriving this morning to repair the screen so hopefully movie night tonight  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Feb 18, 2015 at 08:52 AM
Panasonic service center tech. arriving this morning to repair the screen so hopefully movie night tonight  ;D ;D ;D

that's great news! bring in the popcorn! :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Narayan on Feb 18, 2015 at 09:00 AM
that's great news! bring in the popcorn! :D

And the bottomless drinks too! ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: comet on Feb 18, 2015 at 09:02 AM
fiesta!! hopefully you'll have  wonderful time celebrating eve before chinese new year!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 18, 2015 at 11:42 AM
that's great news! bring in the popcorn! :D

Thanx DTNS, the wife is out buying it now  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 18, 2015 at 11:43 AM
And the bottomless drinks too! ;D

No problem with that sir Obet, a case of San Mig Light already on order  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM
fiesta!! hopefully you'll have  wonderful time celebrating eve before chinese new year!

Thanx comet, we will enjoy   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 18, 2015 at 11:53 AM
Finally screen repair complete. 4 of the vertical lines that I had when 1st powered on have reappeared so hoping with use they will disappear again. I don't think it helped that the technician whacked the side of the screen trying to position it in the bracket housing. The cost has come down by a third due the quote being wrong all 3 power boards instead of 2. Now it's a mail to Panasonic to see if I can twist their arm for some goodwill  ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 19, 2015 at 09:13 AM
All afternoon yesterday spent cleaning & making the room like a proper HT room. Evening, showtime  ;D ;D ;D - watched The Bourne Identity, The Bourne supremacy & The Bourne Ultimatum, The Bourne Legacy (again) later today.
I think I will have to charge entrance  ;)  word has got round fast & the seats are being booked already   :)
One good thing, 2 of the vertical lines have disappeared so optimistic about the remaining 2.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Feb 19, 2015 at 09:25 AM
Good to know it's back on air. No longer Boured.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Feb 19, 2015 at 11:00 AM
Good to know it's back on air. No longer Boured.

Bored Identity ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Photonyo on Feb 19, 2015 at 11:16 AM
The screen is Bourne Again :) congrats :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Feb 19, 2015 at 11:56 AM
All afternoon yesterday spent cleaning & making the room like a proper HT room. Evening, showtime  ;D ;D ;D - watched The Bourne Identity, The Bourne supremacy & The Bourne Ultimatum, The Bourne Legacy (again) later today.
I think I will have to charge entrance  ;)  word has got round fast & the seats are being booked already   :)
One good thing, 2 of the vertical lines have disappeared so optimistic about the remaining 2.

Sir, if its not too much to ask...can we see the big screen in action...are the 2 lines visible?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 19, 2015 at 11:32 PM
Good to know it's back on air. No longer Boured.

Thanx Gino it's been very Bourned over the last 2 days   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 19, 2015 at 11:33 PM
Bored Identity ;D

 ;) ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 19, 2015 at 11:35 PM
The screen is Bourne Again :) congrats :)

Thanx Photonyo   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 19, 2015 at 11:39 PM
Sir, if its not too much to ask...can we see the big screen in action...are the 2 lines visible?

No problem jeff, I'll take a few pics tomorrow & post them. Good news is 1 line disappeared this afternoon & the other this evening. Maybe it's a product of non use, the technician did say leave it a little while & it should get back to normal   :-\
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 20, 2015 at 02:36 PM
Sir, if its not too much to ask...can we see the big screen in action...are the 2 lines visible?

As requested, the screen in action & no visible vertical lines.

2 shots from Dune (standard definition) before the screen problem

(https://i.imgur.com/rvmMpRa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mgtjxjI.jpg)


Front shot before turning screen on.
 
(https://i.imgur.com/CxIgnZm.jpg)

Long shot (Riddick) showing LED bulkhead lighting.

(https://i.imgur.com/kxDFIBk.jpg)

Riddick slicing open the underside of the mummy 'beast'.

(https://i.imgur.com/g9hpiKP.jpg)

2 shots from the Bourne Legacy

(https://i.imgur.com/h8zJdTh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/j6Aaqyt.jpg)


Looking at the pics I took this morning they do not look all that good, definitely does not show off the screen. I'm no camera man, I suppose I could have tried pausing the films as I was not using the flash. Lots of experimenting to be done by me   ;) :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Feb 20, 2015 at 02:51 PM
The lines will only annoy those who know they are there  ;) Enjoy the room this weekend.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 20, 2015 at 02:58 PM
The lines will only annoy those who know they are there  ;) Enjoy the room this weekend.

Thanx Gino but thankfully the lines have disappeared so hoping it stays that way. Rest assured there will be some movie marathons this weekend  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Feb 20, 2015 at 03:36 PM
Oh right. Just like the last time. Good to know it's just a "warm up" ritual.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 20, 2015 at 05:20 PM
Oh right. Just like the last time. Good to know it's just a "warm up" ritual.

Hopefully there won't be any more down time to prove the point  ;) :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Feb 20, 2015 at 05:24 PM
Congrats OBR! I hope it's gonna be smooth sailing from now on.
Now where's the popcorn? Enjoy! :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 20, 2015 at 05:42 PM
Congrats OBR! I hope it's gonna be smooth sailing from now on.
Now where's the popcorn? Enjoy! :D

Thanx nolax, I hope so too. The popcorn will have to wait, I have an abscess & I'm in a little agony but being able to watch the screen eases the pain a little  ;) :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Feb 20, 2015 at 05:54 PM
Thanx nolax, I hope so too. The popcorn will have to wait, I have an abscess & I'm in a little agony but being able to watch the screen eases the pain a little  ;) :)

It's a BIG accomplishment actually on your part. Congrats again OBR :)
Next is audio.  >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 20, 2015 at 05:56 PM
Woohoo! Have a happy viewing weekend OBR! Fantastic! Now I know there is a movie theater in Cebu for pinoydvd members. Job well done! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/41.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 20, 2015 at 08:14 PM
It's a BIG accomplishment actually on your part. Congrats again OBR :)
Next is audio.  >:D

Thanx nolax, yep the audio is next. I've had a visit from a friend who organises classical play lists for a US radio station. He has a set of the 1st KEF reference speakers & was eager to hear my systems. Opera on the HT system was excellent & listening to my music on the audio system kept him very quiet - he was impressed. He obviously has better ears than me & from what he said I shall be playing with speaker placements. Now the HT is sorted it will give me more time to spend on the audio   ;D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 20, 2015 at 08:17 PM
Woohoo! Have a happy viewing weekend OBR! Fantastic! Now I know there is a movie theater in Cebu for pinoydvd members. Job well done! (https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/41.gif)

Thanx Doc, yep pinoydvd members are welcome to visit. I think the viewing weekend started 2 days ago, we're just going in to start the Lord of the Rings trilogy   :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Feb 20, 2015 at 10:01 PM
Congrats on your theater's "reopening"!  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 21, 2015 at 12:15 AM
Congrats! Is it goodbye PJ already?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Feb 21, 2015 at 02:20 AM
Congratulations OBR!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 21, 2015 at 10:34 AM
Congrats on your theater's "reopening"!  ;D

Thanx DTNS  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 21, 2015 at 10:38 AM
Congrats! Is it goodbye PJ already?

Thanx Nelson, no not goodbye PJ just on hold for a while. If the repair doesn't last then I'll have to take the plunge    ;) ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 21, 2015 at 10:39 AM
Congratulations OBR!

Thanx bro Jen   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Feb 21, 2015 at 11:12 AM
As requested, the screen in action & no visible vertical lines.

2 shots from Dune (standard definition) before the screen problem

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Oct172014017_zps580eb38a.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Oct172014017_zps580eb38a.jpg.html)

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Oct172014011_zps9564f241.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Oct172014011_zps9564f241.jpg.html)

Front shot before turning screen on.
 
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Feb%2020%202015%20004_zpsfvybt6oj.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Feb%2020%202015%20004_zpsfvybt6oj.jpg.html)

Long shot (Riddick) showing LED bulkhead lighting.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Feb%2020%202015%20005_zpsbmc97ens.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Feb%2020%202015%20005_zpsbmc97ens.jpg.html)

Riddick slicing open the underside of the mummy 'beast'.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Feb%2020%202015%20008_zpsqloftzlw.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Feb%2020%202015%20008_zpsqloftzlw.jpg.html)

2 shots from the Bourne Legacy

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Feb%2020%202015%20013_zpswcpuwxtm.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Feb%2020%202015%20013_zpswcpuwxtm.jpg.html)

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Feb%2020%202015%20016_zps3ebtmyb0.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Feb%2020%202015%20016_zps3ebtmyb0.jpg.html)

Looking at the pics I took this morning they do not look all that good, definitely does not show off the screen. I'm no camera man, I suppose I could have tried pausing the films as I was not using the flash. Lots of experimenting to be done by me   ;) :)

wow...nice huge screen in action..I agree with you sir.. I think PQ is much better in actual... Congrats on your HT sir..."Now Showing" na ba?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: meat_eater on Feb 21, 2015 at 11:21 AM
WOW!!  :o
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 21, 2015 at 05:13 PM
wow...nice huge screen in action..I agree with you sir.. I think PQ is much better in actual... Congrats on your HT sir..."Now Showing" na ba?

Thanx jeff, I think the answer for a cameraman like me it to take shots slowish moving films. things like the Bourne quadrilogy & Riddick are pretty fast moving, no flash means shutter on camera open longer = not clear image. Watching Lord of the Rings last night & the PQ was really good although in standard definition, I will try a few more pics to see if I can get it right  :) 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 21, 2015 at 05:16 PM
WOW!!  :o

Thanx meat_eater, I feel a lot happier now everything is up & running. I will have to slowly go through my movie collection to appreciate the wow ! factor   ;D ;D ;D   
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Feb 22, 2015 at 08:35 AM
All set for the Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight May 2. I hope that room has cable. It's pay per view so you must call it in advance.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 22, 2015 at 10:45 AM
All set for the Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight May 2. I hope that room has cable. It's pay per view so you must call it in advance.

Hi Gino thanks for the heads up, unfortunately no cable feed the HT room yet. At the time I didn't want it but I've changed my mind so it will be added during the year. I don't do pay per view, the only time I did the fight lasted 1 punch, my guy got knocked out. On paper it should have been a cracking fight & his excuse was "I didn't think he would come at me from the bell", famous last words. I'm quite happy to watch the reruns on the 50" for the time being  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: kiwimig on Feb 22, 2015 at 11:29 AM
waited almost a year and a half to comment on this thread because i've been excitedly awaiting the completion of this build. congrats on the fruits of your hard work! hope to see this room in action one of these days.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Feb 22, 2015 at 12:01 PM
I know what you mean. My first and only paid venue ticket for a Pacquiao fight yielded a dud of a fight.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 22, 2015 at 02:38 PM
waited almost a year and a half to comment on this thread because i've been excitedly awaiting the completion of this build. congrats on the fruits of your hard work! hope to see this room in action one of these days.

Thanx for following the thread kiwimig, not quite finished yet. The louvres for the air.con went back for modification, they forgot about the remote control so putting in a 3" wide strip of black mesh. Also I want the mounting changed as it will be removed regularly for maintenance.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 22, 2015 at 02:46 PM
I know what you mean. My first and only paid venue ticket for a Pacquiao fight yielded a dud of a fight.

A saying I used to use in the UK - crap happens. The other thing I didn't realise is you can't record TV programs here, I was going to record & download to my server so it's a rethink. My set top box in the UK had a 1TB hard drive & could record 3 channels at once so it looks as if I was spoilt  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Feb 22, 2015 at 06:02 PM
Skycable in Manila offers iRecord set tops. I'm not sure if it's a simple recording device or has all the features you have in the UK. Not too sure what services are available there in Cebu.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 22, 2015 at 06:28 PM
Skycable in Manila offers iRecord set tops. I'm not sure if it's a simple recording device or has all the features you have in the UK. Not too sure what services are available there in Cebu.

Thanx for that Gino, maybe things have changed a little. When I was searching for a provider 12 - 18 months ago recording programs seemed to be a no no, maybe I got it wrong. I'm with Cignal here in Cebu on satellite as I'm a little out of the way for fiber  >:( >:( >:(  I don't think they do a PVR (personal video recorder) so I'll have see if there is a way of recording from their box. It's not my area of expertise so open to suggestions.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 26, 2015 at 12:45 PM
I managed to get a small discount, no charge for the screen repair, eventual cost P42.5K  :( :( :(
After a week of viewing the pain of the cost is slowly disappearing  ;D ;D ;D
The next upgrade is unfortunately not HT or Audio, my good wife wants a motorbike so I'd better keep her happy  >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Feb 26, 2015 at 12:48 PM
That's good to hear.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 26, 2015 at 12:55 PM
Great. A few more weeks and it's all worth it. Hehe!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: larokulit on Feb 26, 2015 at 01:06 PM
Great. A few more weeks and it's all worth it. Hehe!

+1
A small price to pay relative to the cost of the panel.
Congrats, OBR!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 26, 2015 at 05:33 PM
Sir OBR,
Maybe you could try using this plasma tv break-in color slide show...
Hope it could help eliminate those unwanted line :)

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/hdtv-video-displays-processors/52673-plasma-break-how-properly-break-your-new-plasma-display.html (http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/hdtv-video-displays-processors/52673-plasma-break-how-properly-break-your-new-plasma-display.html)

Hi Louie, 1 line kept appearing & disappearing last night so decided to try this slide show & after 5 minutes the lines increased to a total of 16, 12 on 1 side & 4 on the other so going to give that a miss for a little while.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 26, 2015 at 06:42 PM
That's good to hear.

Thanx Gino.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 26, 2015 at 06:43 PM
Great. A few more weeks and it's all worth it. Hehe!

Yes Nelson, time is a great healer.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 26, 2015 at 06:44 PM
+1
A small price to pay relative to the cost of the panel.
Congrats, OBR!

Thanx larokulit, that's the way I looked at it.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeffry10 on Mar 01, 2015 at 05:19 PM
hi OBR. nice to see your setup is up and running. CONGRATS ! :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 01, 2015 at 11:22 PM
hi OBR. nice to see your setup is up and running. CONGRATS ! :D

Thanx toyfactor.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: audiojunkie on Mar 02, 2015 at 12:03 AM

OBR, Good to see the screen fixed... It's really disappointing to shell out extra dough for the fix, the anxiety while waiting for the parts and the hoped to get things work. Finally, you're happy with results and enjoying your HT. As you said, the pain of extra cost is slowly fading every time you see the smiles and enjoyment of your family. The experience of life like movies is priceless. Congrats...! ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 02, 2015 at 05:55 PM
OBR, Good to see the screen fixed... It's really disappointing to shell out extra dough for the fix, the anxiety while waiting for the parts and the hoped to get things work. Finally, you're happy with results and enjoying your HT. As you said, the pain of extra cost is slowly fading every time you see the smiles and enjoyment of your family. The experience of life like movies is priceless. Congrats...! ;)

Thanx audiojunkie, unfortunately the fix will be a little more expensive. To keep the wife happy I've agreed to replace her motorbike, at least it will be cheaper to run than the car  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Mar 16, 2015 at 07:10 AM
I saw a two axis swinging stand fan. It swung sideways and vertically. I think this will be a good fan to air out our rooms against mold.

The one I saw was a black Camel fan. Below is the company link but I am not sure what particular model. They may have Cebu distribution. Or similar fans from other brands.

http://camelappliances.com/products/?category=14&product=1595
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 16, 2015 at 10:12 AM
I saw a two axis swinging stand fan. It swung sideways and vertically. I think this will be a good fan to air out our rooms against mold.

The one I saw was a black Camel fan. Below is the company link but I am not sure what particular model. They may have Cebu distribution. Or similar fans from other brands.

http://camelappliances.com/products/?category=14&product=1595

Thanx for that Gino, quite surprised to see a 5 year warranty on the motor so not bad at all. At the moment I have an Asahi twin turbo fan, 1 on top of the other so can adjust for 2 separate air streams but no oscillation.
I will have a look & see if I can source - at the moment, fingers crossed mold is not a problem. Only a few spiders webs to sort out hopefully my vacuum cleaner will do the trick.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: JLT on Mar 16, 2015 at 10:18 AM
Hello,

I really love the set up. Of course the gears are awesome but I appreciate more the quality of the design and build. Seems like everything has been well thought of and executed.

So this was what Erwin was telling me about when he was doing my sound treatment. He was absolutely right.

What I love about your set up is that despite the awesome gears, you were able to accomplish making the room the star and not the gears.

Awesome job
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 16, 2015 at 10:56 AM
Hello,

I really love the set up. Of course the gears are awesome but I appreciate more the quality of the design and build. Seems like everything has been well thought of and executed.

So this was what Erwin was telling me about when he was doing my sound treatment. He was absolutely right.

What I love about your set up is that despite the awesome gears, you were able to accomplish making the room the star and not the gears.

Awesome job

Thanx for the kind words JLT. Back in the UK my living room was L shaped & doubled as HT & audio room & of course normal living area. There was no room for acoustic wall treatment & had to put up with drapes front & back, floor carpet & the furnishings so the situation was not ideal. Having relocated to the Philippines I decided to build our house, this gave me the opportunity of a dedicated room. In actual fact I gave the architect the room size & told him to build the house around it. The build was a big learning curve for me so I had to do lots of research as my knowledge of an HT room build was zero. Yes a lot of thought was put in but as everything you do for the 1st time I have made a fair number of mistakes but thankfully they are little ones I can live with. I have found that most of the information from the experts is ideal conditions, I have improvised in a lot of areas & thankfully nothing has been detrimental. Once the carpet was laid the most surprised person was me, while I was involved in the build I didn't think about the finished look but I sat down, looked around & thought I've actually done it & it looks great. I'm not quite finished yet, there are still a few things to complete but it doesn't stop us using the room  ;D ;D ;D. I think I have too many acoustic panels & will experiment, they are easily removable but later in the year I will look to replace them with something different as the panel filling is susceptible to moisture absorption. I have already had a problem with mold & want panels that will not be affected by the humidity here.
I will post some proper pics when the room is finally complete.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: dimfer on Mar 18, 2015 at 08:50 AM
Hi OBR,

you can pre-treat your acoustic panels with mould killers and let it dry. it will be mould resistant (somehow) afterwards.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 18, 2015 at 06:12 PM
Hi OBR,

you can pre-treat your acoustic panels with mould killers and let it dry. it will be mould resistant (somehow) afterwards.

Hi dimfer, under normal circumstances that would be an option but the panel filling is cellulose fiber which is 85% shredded paper & highly moisture absorbent (one of my mistakes, not researching the fiber). There are a few mold killers but very few will prevent the return. I stand to be corrected but whatever I could use would probably be in liquid form hence when it dries out the cellulose fiber forms a crust under the surface of the fabric. Once this happens the panel becomes semi reflective rather that an absorber, one thing is for sure the acoustic properties change. An answer would be to utilize a dehumidifier but I didn't build an HT room to have a permanent eyesore. I could run the air con. in dehumidifying mode but I think that will use more power. I don't like to work round problems but will do temporarily, it's my 1st introduction to acoustic treatment & it's given me a few ideas to work with. Normally gears are upgraded to achieve the required enjoyment, done that & got the tee shirt so my upgrades this year will be acoustics but thanks for the thought.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Mar 18, 2015 at 09:19 PM
Obr, would love to hear from you soon hehehe
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 18, 2015 at 09:23 PM
Obr, would love to hear from you soon hehehe

Hi ricky, I'll be in touch as soon as I am ready  ;) :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Mar 18, 2015 at 09:29 PM
Ill be waiting.

Btw , no rattles so far? Since you followed everything to dot, im quite confident your room is rattle free up to 130db.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 19, 2015 at 09:18 AM
Ill be waiting.

Btw , no rattles so far? Since you followed everything to dot, im quite confident your room is rattle free up to 130db.

Hi ricky, yup completely rattle free, I obviously did something right   ;D
Had the opportunity last night to evaluate the sound proofing. I had visitors for a viewing session & left them to it while I cooked my dinner. I heard nothing except for the extremely loud & very low sounds from the subwoofer, even then you wouldn't notice it unless you knew the HT room existed. OK it's not perfect but quite acceptable.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Mar 19, 2015 at 05:30 PM
Hi ricky, yup completely rattle free, I obviously did something right   ;D
Had the opportunity last night to evaluate the sound proofing. I had visitors for a viewing session & left them to it while I cooked my dinner. I heard nothing except for the extremely loud & very low sounds from the subwoofer, even then you wouldn't notice it unless you knew the HT room existed. OK it's not perfect but quite acceptable.

Weakest link would be the door, you can try putting door seal around the jamb, raven brand is good.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 19, 2015 at 08:21 PM
Weakest link would be the door, you can try putting door seal around the jamb, raven brand is good.

Hi ricky, I didn't investigate where the leakage was coming from but I have 2 sand filled doors with seals, fitted with the acoustic panels. Not altogether happy with the seal fitment but I intend to do a proper job once everything has settled.
Can you give me a cost for Raven brand & do you supply it ?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 20, 2015 at 04:20 PM
As promised DTNS, my 1st full months bill has come in at P4.33K. We've been using an induction hob for cooking but I will install the gas hob tomorrow so the consumption should go down but will increase with extra usage of the HT room when the screen is repaired  ;D It will take a couple of months to to settle & give me an idea of exact usage. One thing is for sure it's not going to be anywhere near the P22K estimated by VECO.

2nd months bill came in at P5.6K which isn't bad considering the HT room usage increased by about 75% & the audio system has also been running for around 8 hours a day, 7 days a week It looks as though our average bill will be around P6K so well happy with that   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Mar 20, 2015 at 04:31 PM
I'd kill for P5.6k electricity bill  ;)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Mar 20, 2015 at 06:14 PM
2nd months bill came in at P5.6K which isn't bad considering the HT room usage increased by about 75% & the audio system has also been running for around 8 hours a day, 7 days a week It looks as though our average bill will be around P6K so well happy with that   ;D

that's amazing! is that inclusive of aircon use?  ::)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 20, 2015 at 08:33 PM
I'd kill for P5.6k electricity bill  ;)

I'm really surprised Gino, I was expecting a P10K bill to start off with. The real power hungry items we have are all inverter drives, never had this before so I'm a real newbie at what does or does not cost a lot to run. To be honest I've never had to bother before but I've started to change my thinking to Filipino & not UK.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 20, 2015 at 08:41 PM
that's amazing! is that inclusive of aircon use?  ::)

Hi DTNS - yes. To be honest the only air con. we've used is in the HT room. We're so close to the sea that we get lovely breezes all the time & it's only occasionally that we use the ceiling fan in the living room & our bedroom. It's a case of open the windows & let it refresh the house, the only downside is I have to keep reminding everyone to wedge the doors as they make a hell of a racket when the wind gets hold of them.
I will use the air con. in my workshop when I've finally got it sorted but at the moment got 3 inverter types & 4 window types laying dormant.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Mar 20, 2015 at 09:45 PM
Hi ricky, I didn't investigate where the leakage was coming from but I have 2 sand filled doors with seals, fitted with the acoustic panels. Not altogether happy with the seal fitment but I intend to do a proper job once everything has settled.
Can you give me a cost for Raven brand & do you supply it ?

Odd that my reply was not posted yesterday

Anyways, raven brand of seals are readily available at ace hardwares. You just have to choose the thickness corresponding to the gap between door-door jamb. DO NOT over do it by choosing a thicker seal ,thinking that it will help more with the sound /temperature leaks, it wont. It will just give you a hard time, very hard time closing the door hahahha
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 20, 2015 at 10:36 PM
Odd that my reply was not posted yesterday

Anyways, raven brand of seals are readily available at ace hardwares. You just have to choose the thickness corresponding to the gap between door-door jamb. DO NOT over do it by choosing a thicker seal ,thinking that it will help more with the sound /temperature leaks, it wont. It will just give you a hard time, very hard time closing the door hahahha

Thanx for that ricky, I'll give ace a visit.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeffry10 on Mar 21, 2015 at 06:09 AM
Hi DTNS - yes. To be honest the only air con. we've used is in the HT room. We're so close to the sea that we get lovely breezes all the time & it's only occasionally that we use the ceiling fan in the living room & our bedroom. It's a case of open the windows & let it refresh the house, the only downside is I have to keep reminding everyone to wedge the doors as they make a hell of a racket when the wind gets hold of them.
I will use the air con. in my workshop when I've finally got it sorted but at the moment got 3 inverter types & 4 window types laying dormant.

nice. Enjoy OBR ! your place would be a great place to visit :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 21, 2015 at 10:08 AM
nice. Enjoy OBR ! your place would be a great place to visit :).
Thanx toyfactor, fellow PDVD members are welcome to visit  :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 13, 2015 at 03:32 PM
This post is the one I've been dreading. The screen had 4 vertical lines on the left hand side that would not go. They have now formed a black block with a yellow streak up the middle half the screen height & 4" wide. I will remove the back panels tomorrow to see if it's a silly thing like a loose plug or connection but if I get no joy it looks like a projector. I will wait until DTS-X is issued as it looks to be more versatile than the other new formats so an AV receiver upgrade looks to be on the cards as well   >:D
I'll be crying in my sleep at the thought of dumping the screen after so little use   :'( :'( :'(  as they say crap happens.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Apr 13, 2015 at 04:45 PM
This post is the one I've been dreading. The screen had 4 vertical lines on the left hand side that would not go. They have now formed a black block with a yellow streak up the middle half the screen height & 4" wide. I will remove the back panels tomorrow to see if it's a silly thing like a loose plug or connection but if I get no joy it looks like a projector. I will wait until DTS-X is issued as it looks to be more versatile than the other new formats so an AV receiver upgrade looks to be on the cards as well   >:D
I'll be crying in my sleep at the thought of dumping the screen after so little use   :'( :'( :'(  as they say crap happens.

What a bad note it would be sir. These happens sir after the repair, right?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 13, 2015 at 07:20 PM
That's not a good thing OBR. But at least you didn't spend much on the repair. But then again, what could go wrong if you decide to get a projector even if the issues re your TV is solved? Purchasing a PJ now will lessen the "sadness factor" if in case you have more issues with your TV.

Warlock in the works.  ;D

Walang kokontra.  ;)





And if by chance you are in Manila, you might want to visit my place for audition, coffee or beer and some small talk re our hobby.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 13, 2015 at 08:30 PM
What a bad note it would be sir. These happens sir after the repair, right?

I wish that was the case jeff but no, if you look back in the thread I've described all the problems. A little too much to repeat & would depress me even more if I had to go through it all again. If it was a normal TV screen not so much of a problem but the selling price when I purchased it in the UK was equivalent to P2.3 M, I was given a P900,000 discount so that's the reason I pulled the trigger. Seemed like a good idea at the time but not so good now   :(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 13, 2015 at 08:40 PM
That's not a good thing OBR. But at least you didn't spend much on the repair. But then again, what could go wrong if you decide to get a projector even if the issues re your TV is solved? Purchasing a PJ now will lessen the "sadness factor" if in case you have more issues with your TV.

Warlock in the works.  ;D

Walang kokontra.  ;)







And if by chance you are in Manila, you might want to visit my place for audition, coffee or beer and some small talk re our hobby.

Well the repair cost P40K+ & I'm feeling as if I may have purchased a lemon so I have a big decision to make if I don't find anything.
Yes I will be coming to Manila to visit the brothers in law, beers, audition & chat about our hobby, obsession, addiction (I'm sure there are a few more words for it) sounds like a great idea. Thanx for the invite, I'll PM you when we're coming over   :)   
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: RXV on Apr 13, 2015 at 08:59 PM
Well the repair cost P40K+ & I'm feeling as if I may have purchased a lemon so I have a big decision to make if I don't find anything.
Yes I will be coming to Manila to visit the brothers in law, beers, audition & chat about our hobby, obsession, addiction (I'm sure there are a few more words for it) sounds like a great idea. Thanx for the invite, I'll PM you when we're coming over   :)   

Sad to hear about your equipment sir. I hope you get to find a nice replacement in time.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 14, 2015 at 08:25 AM
Sad to hear about your equipment sir. I hope you get to find a nice replacement in time.

Thanx RXV, any replacement will be pretty straight forward. The problem is the decision to dump a screen which cost me around P1.3 M & it has been in use for less than 400 hours. It's unfortunate it was in storage for 16 months after I purchased it. Had I realised the storage time would have been that long I probably would not have had it. One is always wiser after the event, as they say hindsight is a wonderful thing  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on Apr 22, 2015 at 09:06 AM
Hey bro! Finally my long-awaited Cebu business trip will push thru May 7-9. May 7 is quite open then May 8 evening also open. Hope to visit you and "experience" your system. Thanks!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 04, 2015 at 01:17 PM
Hey bro! Finally my long-awaited Cebu business trip will push thru May 7-9. May 7 is quite open then May 8 evening also open. Hope to visit you and "experience" your system. Thanks!

Hi Jen,
Sorry for the late reply, you're welcome to visit, either day is not a problem, you're choice.
I've been out of the loop for a while the netbook slowed to a halt so went out & got a PC built. They had a special offer on a gaming set up for P18.5K that the wife took a liking to so got that as well. The wife's is set up is in the bedroom & mine moved down into the games room so blown all my original network ideas out of the window. Hence the reason for me being out of circulation for a while.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Superman on May 04, 2015 at 03:12 PM
Hi Jen,
Sorry for the late reply, you're welcome to visit, either day is not a problem, you're choice.
I've been out of the loop for a while the netbook slowed to a halt so went out & got a PC built. They had a special offer on a gaming set up for P18.5K that the wife took a liking to so got that as well. The wife's is set up is in the bedroom & mine moved down into the games room so blown all my original network ideas out of the window. Hence the reason for me being out of circulation for a while.

Thanks sir!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 21, 2015 at 10:19 AM
This post is the one I've been dreading. The screen had 4 vertical lines on the left hand side that would not go. They have now formed a black block with a yellow streak up the middle half the screen height & 4" wide. I will remove the back panels tomorrow to see if it's a silly thing like a loose plug or connection but if I get no joy it looks like a projector. I will wait until DTS-X is issued as it looks to be more versatile than the other new formats so an AV receiver upgrade looks to be on the cards as well   >:D
I'll be crying in my sleep at the thought of dumping the screen after so little use   :'( :'( :'(  as they say crap happens.

Update :- After a lot of searching & messing around I have found nothing. Had trouble contacting Panasonic, the guy I was dealing with is no longer associated with them. The head of Cebu customer services is now dealing with me but has been away but called this morning & a technician will arrive this afternoon to assess the situation.
A couple of pics of the problem.

(https://i.imgur.com/oBzJmyd.jpg)

If you look closely there is a mauve line to the left of the black block - on the edge of the Mustang's air scoop, this is what the original lines looked light

(https://i.imgur.com/jg9dEh7.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 21, 2015 at 11:35 AM
Looks like a free db meter. Haha!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 21, 2015 at 12:58 PM
Looks like a free db meter. Haha!

I must admit Nelson it looks like a meter for something   :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jun 02, 2015 at 10:12 AM
I've had internet problems again - thank you Globe, so yesterdays updates are a bit late.
Ceiling Rockwool completed & plywood layer started.

Looking front from right rear corner.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/June92014004_zpsdd5a1cfc.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/June92014004_zpsdd5a1cfc.jpg.html)

Looking towards the rear wall.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/June92014005_zps54fc075d.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/June92014005_zps54fc075d.jpg.html)

Right wall from front right corner.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/June92014006_zps43bbaae7.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/June92014006_zps43bbaae7.jpg.html)

looking towards the rear later in the day.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/June92014007_zpsccf9e677.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/June92014007_zpsccf9e677.jpg.html)

Looking to the rear another sheet of ply wood added just before I left site.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/June92014008_zps39d0693c.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/June92014008_zps39d0693c.jpg.html)

what did you install to hold those insulations Sir?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jun 02, 2015 at 10:13 AM
Internet back on this morning so here are the photos from Monday, seat riser framing under way.

Looking towards rear + right wall

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/June162014001_zps516ea01f.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/June162014001_zps516ea01f.jpg.html)

Looking at doorway from right wall. Through the doorway you can see 2 of the 10 boxes of acoustic panels & corner bass traps.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/June162014002_zps17a575ba.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/June162014002_zps17a575ba.jpg.html)

Looking at right wall from doorway.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/June162014006_zps35f4b5f6.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/June162014006_zps35f4b5f6.jpg.html)

treated woods?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 02, 2015 at 03:35 PM
what did you install to hold those insulations Sir?
Hi marlon,
Drilled holes in the ceiling & wall channels & ran 60lb fishing line to hold the Rockwool in place.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 02, 2015 at 03:38 PM
treated woods?

Hi marlon,
All wood was treated with wood preservative which deters wood borers & decay fungus.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 02, 2015 at 05:16 PM
Would adding many rockwools come out cheaper than using concrete double walls?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jun 03, 2015 at 09:11 AM
Hi marlon,
Drilled holes in the ceiling & wall channels & ran 60lb fishing line to hold the Rockwool in place.

you mean holes in the joists Sir?

I saw in the earlier pics you also used wire mesh to hold the rockwool in between cavities on your walls, im just curious if it will vibrate or not?

Lastly, did you use the .6m X 5m X 50mm rockwool sir? If so, what's the spacing of your wall studs?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 03, 2015 at 10:09 AM
Would adding many rockwools come out cheaper than using concrete double walls?

Hi Nelson, I would have to research that but my feeling is Rockwool would give better results. As my Rockwool came to P85K I would think double concrete walls would be cheaper.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 03, 2015 at 10:22 AM
you mean holes in the joists Sir?

I saw in the earlier pics you also used wire mesh to hold the rockwool in between cavities on your walls, im just curious if it will vibrate or not?

Lastly, did you use the .6m X 5m X 50mm rockwool sir? If so, what's the spacing of your wall studs?

Hi marlon,
All my wall & ceiling joists are steel which are a channel in cross section. For the walls the fishing line was run at the rear (to stop it falling into the cavity) & the channel lip at the front held the Rockwool in place. Where we had problems with it falling out we used cardboard to hold it in place which was removed when the plywood was fitted.
Initially I was going to use wire mesh but it became obvious that it would be almost impossible to prevent the mesh from rattling so removed it & used fishing line.
Yes I used .6m x 5m x 50mm Rockwool but used 2 layers so the depth of my stud wall is 4". The pitch of the studs is 24".
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jun 03, 2015 at 10:31 AM
MLD Building, Banilad Street, Cebu City  Ferdie's mob. no. 09173212079

just found out when i tried to save the number that its the same supplier where i got my buttkicker few years back. hehe :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 03, 2015 at 11:19 AM
just found out when i tried to save the number that its the same supplier where i got my buttkicker few years back. hehe :)

Yep Ferdie's a great guy & prepared to give you his time.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Gino on Jun 03, 2015 at 01:13 PM
I got my Analysis Plus cables from him.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 03, 2015 at 03:32 PM
I got my Analysis Plus cables from him.
I'm a bit frightened to go & see him at the moment Gino, I don't know what I'll come away with  >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Jun 03, 2015 at 08:31 PM
Would adding many rockwools come out cheaper than using concrete double walls?
Definitely nelson, and less strain on the load. But obr's is the extreme version hahaha. A good 8" chb erected from floor to roof rafters would already minimize sound transfer. That is for the sound, vibrations is another issue. A properly designed treatment will be cost efficient, problem lang kasi is the labor involved. Too tedious talaga to make it right.

Marlon I was the one who suggested to remove the chicken wire in securing the rw, since if not fasten correctly, it will just add to the problem.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 03, 2015 at 08:59 PM
Definitely nelson, and less strain on the load. But obr's is the extreme version hahaha. A good 8" chb erected from floor to roof rafters would already minimize sound transfer. That is for the sound, vibrations is another issue. A properly designed treatment will be cost efficient, problem lang kasi is the labor involved. Too tedious talaga to make it right.

Marlon I was the one who suggested to remove the chicken wire in securing the rw, since if not fasten correctly, it will just add to the problem.

Hi ricky I pointed marlon in your direction    ;):)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Jun 03, 2015 at 09:09 PM
Thank you very much
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jun 05, 2015 at 11:46 AM

Marlon I was the one who suggested to remove the chicken wire in securing the rw, since if not fasten correctly, it will just add to the problem.

That was what I was thinking...might just add to the prob. Got an advice from Big of avsforum that as long as its snugly fit there's really no need to have a mesh to hold it in the cavities.

I just placed my order for Rockwool insulations (blanket .6m X 5m X 50mm  with 60kg density, and the board for future acoustic treatment needs). It should arrive in days :)

Now im looking for fabrics. Black and Red or Black and Neon Green (Razer inspired theme).



Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 08, 2015 at 08:23 AM
That was what I was thinking...might just add to the prob. Got an advice from Big of avsforum that as long as its snugly fit there's really no need to have a mesh to hold it in the cavities.

I just placed my order for Rockwool insulations (blanket .6m X 5m X 50mm  with 60kg density, and the board for future acoustic treatment needs). It should arrive in days :)

Now im looking for fabrics. Black and Red or Black and Neon Green (Razer inspired theme).

Big's advice is OK providing there is a lip on both sides of the stud at the rear to prevent the blanket falling into the cavity.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jun 29, 2015 at 09:42 AM

Most of the materials have arrived for the HT room. The carpet is hiding under the pink floor covering.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/March212014002_zpse261926b.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/March212014002_zpse261926b.jpg.html)

Where did you get your carpet sir?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jun 29, 2015 at 09:51 AM
Hi guys, I've been quiet for while, Internet problems thanks to Globe, an exotic virus thanks to the wife's sisters family & a problem with the house. The front & left hand walls were to have been 6" insulated panels, this included the rear wall of the HT but the manufacturer decided he could not supply. Although making 4" panels OK the 6" ones were breaking up as they came out of the mould. After careful deliberation we decided to fabricate our own, 4" CHB, plaster skim coat, 1.5" polystyrene sheet & 1" plaster coat on the outside. This enabled us to put in the HT rear wall.

April 8th.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/April82014015_zps7e1aafd8.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/April82014015_zps7e1aafd8.jpg.html)

April 24th AM - rear wall perimeter framing.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/April242014004_zpsa29912e1.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/April242014004_zpsa29912e1.jpg.html)

April 24th PM - left hand wall vertical framing.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/April242014007_zps30ade093.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/April242014007_zps30ade093.jpg.html)

April 25th - rear wall.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/April252014002_zps794d47a6.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/April252014002_zps794d47a6.jpg.html)

April 25th - front wall.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/April252014004_zps4e5dfc6e.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/April252014004_zps4e5dfc6e.jpg.html)

I will take more photos later & post tonight.

Hi sir,

mind sharing how did you attach the steel studs to the floor/ceiling? Did you put rubber matting in between the floor/ceiling and steel studs?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jun 29, 2015 at 09:56 AM
Update :- Started the speaker cable conduit installation today. Photos of today's work, should be completed tomorrow with the cables pulled in.

Right wall

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/May132014002_zpsdde7bd45.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/May132014002_zpsdde7bd45.jpg.html)
 
Rear & right wall

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/May132014001_zpsd1a34c9c.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/May132014001_zpsd1a34c9c.jpg.html)

Rear & left wall

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/May132014003_zps127e75f6.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/May132014003_zps127e75f6.jpg.html)

Looking at front wall

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/May132014004_zps920a3eb8.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/May132014004_zps920a3eb8.jpg.html)

are these treated woods? how did you attached them to the ceiling sir?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jun 29, 2015 at 10:14 AM
Decorators doing well, 2 walls filled 2nd time around, should be complete tomorrow. Air con mounting plate fitted, not to happy as the installers have mounted it 8" off center, cannot do anything about it as pipe work was installed in the wrong position. I will have to modify the rear soffit install, a bit of an inconvenience but not insurmountable.

Looking front from rear.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/July42014005_zpsf2f3dae4.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/July42014005_zpsf2f3dae4.jpg.html)

Looking rear from front.

(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/July42014004_zps92871b95.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/July42014004_zps92871b95.jpg.html)

the aircon mounting was directly screwed to the studs sir? or did you install some reinforcement to hold its weight?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 29, 2015 at 11:04 AM
Where did you get your carpet sir?

Hi marlon, I can't help you there, brought it with me from the UK.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 29, 2015 at 11:07 AM
Hi sir,

mind sharing how did you attach the steel studs to the floor/ceiling? Did you put rubber matting in between the floor/ceiling and steel studs?

Hi marlon, the studs were fixed exactly as in the drawing I sent you. Yes rubber between ceiling/floor & studs.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 29, 2015 at 11:10 AM
are these treated woods? how did you attached them to the ceiling sir?

Hi marlon, the wood was treated with Solignum, screwed to the ceiling with a layer of silicon sealant between the beam & ceiling.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 29, 2015 at 11:15 AM
the aircon mounting was directly screwed to the studs sir? or did you install some reinforcement to hold its weight?

Hi marlon, Only the 1st layer of Gypsum or plywood should be screwed to the studs. My 1st layer is marine plywood, then 2 layers of gypsum board. The plywood gives sufficient support for air con & speaker brackets but make sure you miss the studs when installing these.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jun 29, 2015 at 11:55 AM
thanks a lot for all your inputs sir. im excited to start my build, sigh*

Im just waiting for some materials needed.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jun 29, 2015 at 11:56 AM
Hi marlon, Only the 1st layer of Gypsum or plywood should be screwed to the studs. My 1st layer is marine plywood, then 2 layers of gypsum board. The plywood gives sufficient support for air con & speaker brackets but make sure you miss the studs when installing these.

How thick is the marine plywood sir?1/2, 3/4 or 5/8?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 29, 2015 at 12:43 PM
How thick is the marine plywood sir?1/2, 3/4 or 5/8?
Hi marlon,
1/2" on walls & ceiling & 3/4" on the stage & seat riser.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Jun 29, 2015 at 10:52 PM
For walling reinforcement, its better if you can get hold of high quality marine PLYBOARD. its denser than plywood. Another option is those water resistant mdfs. But for better sound insulation , gypsum board is much much better.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 30, 2015 at 10:32 AM
For walling reinforcement, its better if you can get hold of high quality marine PLYBOARD. its denser than plywood. Another option is those water resistant mdfs. But for better sound insulation , gypsum board is much much better.

Hi ricky good spot, I forgot to mention that. Also with the el cheapo the 1/2" is actually 3/8" & the 3/4" is 5/8". Marlon is doing his walls & ceiling the way I did mine but only using 1 layer of Gypsum board.
I'm using some of the el cheapo marine plywood at the moment for some small shelves & I'm really surprised at how soft it is. If you go too heavy with the screwdriver it pulls the screwhead all the way through   :o.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 02, 2015 at 07:01 PM
I've just had some bad news, it's been 5 weeks since Panasonic customer services visited, having chased them they had this to say :- Their accredited repairer has all the information but has failed to notify me. As per our query with Panasonic Japan we suspect the fault to be 80% plasma panel or C1 board or C2 board of D board. There are parts available but it will cost thousands of Pesos including tax & labour.
I have asked for someone of standing in Japan that I can deal with directly, it's been 3 days & still awaiting a reply. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Jul 02, 2015 at 07:15 PM
I've just had some bad news, it's been 5 weeks since Panasonic customer services visited, having chased them they had this to say :- Their accredited repairer has all the information but has failed to notify me. As per our query with Panasonic Japan we suspect the fault to be 80% plasma panel or C1 board or C2 board of D board. There are parts available but it will cost thousands of Pesos including tax & labour.
I have asked for someone of standing in Japan that I can deal with directly, it's been 3 days & still awaiting a reply. 

oh man, that is frustrating! :(   
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Jul 02, 2015 at 08:10 PM
Hi ricky good spot, I forgot to mention that. Also with the el cheapo the 1/2" is actually 3/8" & the 3/4" is 5/8". Marlon is doing his walls & ceiling the way I did mine but only using 1 layer of Gypsum board.
I'm using some of the el cheapo marine plywood at the moment for some small shelves & I'm really surprised at how soft it is. If you go too heavy with the screwdriver it pulls the screwhead all the way through   :o.

That is the sad part in using wood.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 02, 2015 at 09:57 PM
oh man, that is frustrating! :(

Frustrating to say the least DTNS. I have a feeling the cost will be in excess of a PJ & screen unless Panasonic Japan step in.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 02, 2015 at 10:00 PM
That is the sad part in using wood.

Hi ricky, I suppose since I've been here I've been educated quite a lot. Plywood in the UK does not act like that & is very solid. Fortunately the marine plywood in the HT room is of good quality & not very soft.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jul 03, 2015 at 02:07 PM
Frustrating to say the least DTNS. I have a feeling the cost will be in excess of a PJ & screen unless Panasonic Japan step in.

Sorry to hear about that sir George. tsk tsk tsk

If that's the case, you better get a PJ and a screen.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 03, 2015 at 02:17 PM
Sorry to hear about that sir George. tsk tsk tsk

If that's the case, you better get a PJ and a screen.
You're right there marlon, the only problem is all the available cash at the moment has been earmarked for other things on the audio system. Unfortunately I'll have to put up with the screen at is untill next year & then it'll be PJ. I rather fancy one with the new laser light engine but wanted to wait & see what emerges from the manufacturers.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 03, 2015 at 04:14 PM
You're right there marlon, the only problem is all the available cash at the moment has been earmarked for other things on the audio system. Unfortunately I'll have to put up with the screen at is untill next year & then it'll be PJ. I rather fancy one with the new laser light engine but wanted to wait & see what emerges from the manufacturers.

I think there are cheaper hybrids. Or probably you could wait for the high contrast PJs.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 07, 2015 at 09:18 PM
I think there are cheaper hybrids. Or probably you could wait for the high contrast PJs.
Hi Nelson, I think I'll be waiting for at least 9 months so I'll see what's about early next year. Sorting out my vinyl re emergence is more a priority at the moment.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 07, 2015 at 09:22 PM
Hi Nelson, I think I'll be waiting for at least 9 months so I'll see what's about early next year. Sorting out my vinyl re emergence is more a priority at the moment.

Yeah. And for the meantime :D there are those great Panny PJs that could fill the "emptiness" inside the dedicated room. :P Just remember, the first 2 months of waiting is like forever. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Jul 08, 2015 at 09:14 AM
Yeah. And for the meantime :D there are those great Panny PJs that could fill the "emptiness" inside the dedicated room. :P Just remember, the first 2 months of waiting is like forever.

agree lol.

I have a mitsubishi HC3800 which has been sitting in the corner for a year now. Im planning to dispose it off since I already have Sony 55es for my build. If there are no takers, might just use it in my receiving area or family room with an electric screen. he he he :p
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 10, 2015 at 08:48 AM
Yeah. And for the meantime :D there are those great Panny PJs that could fill the "emptiness" inside the dedicated room. :P Just remember, the first 2 months of waiting is like forever.

I have at long last had the official quote from Panasonic along with a message saying basically it's out of warranty, tough. The quote is for P881,088 for a replacement plasma panel + P5,000 labour. The previous mail said the problem could could be C1 board or C2 board on D board but 80% possibility it's the plasma panel. I find it incredible they want me to have the panel replaced when there is a 20% chance it's a board. I have asked for a name of someone senior ranking at Panasonic Japan so I can deal with them directly but Cebu customer services seem reluctant to comply.
One thing is for sure if Panasonic think it's OK for one of their premium products to fail like this after less than 350 hours use I will never buy Panasonic again, I don't care how good they may be   >:(
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 10, 2015 at 08:54 AM
agree lol.

I have a mitsubishi HC3800 which has been sitting in the corner for a year now. Im planning to dispose it off since I already have Sony 55es for my build. If there are no takers, might just use it in my receiving area or family room with an electric screen. he he he :p

Hi Marlon, the screen is still watchable but it's difficult to ignore the the rather large black block on the left hand side. It will have to do until I go PJ, at the moment trying to get my head around quotes I've had for screens - P60K + for something that retails under $300 in the US.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Jul 10, 2015 at 07:57 PM
Shipping cost is what gives the local available options that prohibitive price. Another good option is just go for a fixed screen setup and get the screen material abroad.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeffry10 on Jul 11, 2015 at 07:39 AM
good luck oldboy. too bad about the plasma. then again that's probably the reason plasamas went the way of the dinosaur :).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 11, 2015 at 04:07 PM
Shipping cost is what gives the local available options that prohibitive price. Another good option is just go for a fixed screen setup and get the screen material abroad.
Hi ricky, shipping is one increase but a 400% mark up for shipping does not compute with me. I may have to go down the DIY screen route but again something I know nothing about so a lot of research to be done.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 11, 2015 at 04:13 PM
good luck oldboy. too bad about the plasma. then again that's probably the reason plasamas went the way of the dinosaur :).
Hi Scrooge, thanks for dropping in. Not so sure I agree with your comment, this is not a TV but a commercial display screen & still out performs all other display sources although saying that I've not seen OLED yet. Had I realised that it would spend the entire warranty period in storage I would never have bought it, you make mistakes in life & have to live with them.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 13, 2015 at 01:30 PM
I was hoping to have some news from Panasonic by now but they are strangely quiet, from the mails I've received the problem would appear to rest with Cebu customer services. I do not intend to let this go, the screen is watchable but a bit of a pain with a chunk picture missing on the lower left. It looks certain for a PJ next year so I've got plenty of time to research   >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Feb 03, 2016 at 09:17 AM
Hi Guys! its been a long time....any news?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 18, 2016 at 12:21 PM
Hi Guys! its been a long time....any news?
Hi all, I've been away from the forum for a long time but have at last managed to drop by & post. Quite a lot has happened in the last year so I'll post an update soon.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: n o l on Oct 18, 2016 at 06:52 PM
Hi all, I've been away from the forum for a long time but have at last managed to drop by & post. Quite a lot has happened in the last year so I'll post an update soon.

Welcome back, Man! :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2016 at 12:30 PM
Thanks nolax.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2016 at 01:21 PM
Hi all, the news on the HT front is not good but more of that later.
After being in our new house for a year the snagging list was not getting any smaller so I've been completing the not so costly jobs plus kitting out my workshop with workbench, cupboards & a 40 pair shoe rack that is now on the wall in my workshop. All made to measure by myself, I'm no carpenter but I must have done something right as the wife has asked me to make her a dressing table & closets for the 3 other bedrooms. Our bedroom has walk in closets but not too happy with the finished product hence the wife's request. That's what has kept we away from the HT & the forum for over a year.
My Panny screen will now head for the scrap heap, I had someone recommended to me & he said he could sort it. I gave him the money for the parts he wanted & it's been unusable for nearly a year. We could not trace him but there was a good reason as it turned out, he'd died of a drug overdose & that's where the money for the parts went. I'm pretty convinced it will be an expensive repair. Panasonic say I have to deal with UK customer services as that's where it was purchased & to be honest I a little fed up with it all. I've decided that a projector & screen are going to be a far cheaper option so a rather large upgrade coming next year. I haven't had any HT for a year so a little longer is not going to hurt.
Now the real bad news, I have been visited by Mr. Termite, it would appear that my architects termite prevention procedure did not work. The only good news is the termites are now dead & the current situation is :-
Carpets lifted, stage & seat riser floors removed, the sand filling for both removed (all 4 tons of it), walls drilled for administering the termite killer, application of the termite killer into walls & floor, inspected yesterday to decide what has to be removed & what can stay. The seat riser is not too bad & will be repaired with the same timber, the stage is quite bad & the timber will be replaced with aluminium box section. I'm doing all the work myself as I've not been happy with the quality of work I have received so far. Once all the repairs have been done I will install a pipe matrix underfloor so the termite chemical can be applied every 5 years. This is going to keep me busy for quite a while.
Having decided on a projector I have also decided to upgrade to the latest audio & video codecs so all the alterations to the room will be done now in readiness, this includes the acoustics but more of that in a moment. I have decided to replace my Onkyo TX-NR5007 with a pre/pro & separate amplifiers also the Cambridge Audio 840E & 840W will become obsolete due to space restrictions in equipment console. The gear that I have selected subject to any new additions to manufacturers ranges is :- Screen ?(further research & availability required), projector - Sony VPL-HW45ES, pre/pro - Marantz AV7703, amps - Emotiva XPA 5 & 6 Gen 3. I would have liked to have gone for a laser projector but have decided to keep the costs sensible as I'm upgrading the AV receiver.
A little war & peace but that where I am at the moment. As this post has got a little long I'll start another about the acoustics.

 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 20, 2016 at 01:58 PM
The acoustics.
I wasn't altogether happy with the acoustic installation but at the time I was a novice as far as acoustics go. The room is far too dead so now I have the opportunity to try & do it properly.
I don't like to complain in public about company's that have done work for me but with what's happened it has given me a chance to inspect the products I have purchased more closely. I ordered 54 panels 2 feet square & 2" thick, The panels that arrived although being 2 feet square vary in thickness between 1 & half & 2" in 5 different sizes. I have 3 different types of covering material used, I agreed 2 but expected the look to be very similar but alas no. I asked for a 1/4" bevel on the front & have 1/4", 1/2", no bevel (bevel at rear so covered back to front), round & some I cannot describe. Some might say why did I not send them back, the reason being I did not find all this out till after the panels had been installed. The home theater was the 1st room to be completed in the house build so I was not going check the panels in a building site environment & get them dirty. I thought that there would have been some sort of consistency for an order of 68 panels (14 for the living room) but it looks as if each one was made individually & not to the same standard. Some have been overfilled, some under filled & if you carefully look after becoming used to the room doesn't look too good. I had cause to dismantle the corner bass traps due to termite ingress, I found the footprint of all 8 was different, the tops & bottoms were of a different size to the main frame, the wood that I exposed I can only describe as recycled, the lengths were not what I ordered, there are a few other things but I think I've said enough, I will not name the company publicly but if anyone is purchasing acoustic products at the moment I'm happy to converse by PM.
After my experimenting I will be approaching PDVD acoustic installers to enlist their help so watch this space.

Edit :- Due to what's happened to me in the last 2 & half years I will elaborate as I would not wish for fellow PinoyDVD members to be ripped off. I sent the worst HT panels back for replacement, when they eventually returned there looked to be mold on them. As they came by sea I thought maybe seawater had got in so was rather surprised that when I complained I was told "I dried them out before I sent them". They had obviously got wet but not fully dry when sent hence the mold, also the surface of the filling had gone rock hard so the panel wouldn't function as expected.
As the installation took place through the night I didn't see what went on but instead of using masking tape to mark the panel positions the installer used an orinary pencil on the walls. He said just use an eraser, it will come off & left me to do it, I wasn't best pleased but pencil is one of the hardest to remove & ended up repainting the walls.
When I opened up the corner base traps to alter them to to correct dimensions I found termites inside so my termite problem may have come from Manila but that's only maybe but a possibility.
As I've already said I will not name names but if you look at reply 844 on page 29 of this thread you can see a pic of the installer. What the situation with him is now 2 & half years later, I don't know but the work did for me was unacceptable.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Oct 25, 2016 at 07:05 PM
I hate to say i told you so george , but its saddening really bec people are thinking that its a still but in reality it's just st a waste of money and precious time.

Yes it is cheaper bec you are buying piece by piece , but if you try to compute the cost per square meter it will end up almost similar to a well constructed room.

I wouldnt last this long if i did short cuts or tried to scrimp on materials used. Most of the theaters i built, after 5yrs it still looks brand new as if newly built. So far no probl m encountered.

The secret? I always treat each ht i build as if its my own. Lots of sleepless nights  figuring out whats the best design for every room. Up to now no 2 rooms are the same design(crazy me hahaha)

Im glad that ive been part of your build ( framings) and thank you for the trust george.

Sorry for the ot, but i was the one before who wanted george to expose the other guy and its not pareng nelson de leon ha, the other guy pa. Saw the materials he was using and its for another purpose. Good marketing lang sya is nlike me walang marketing skills lol.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 25, 2016 at 07:59 PM
Just to let everyone know, ricky will be paying me a visit so we can sort out the acoustics properly. As ricky said "I told you so", he was right but unfortunately I had already placed an order before we spoke for the 1st time. Still as they say, you learn by your mistakes & I've learned big time.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 25, 2016 at 11:04 PM
I hate to say i told you so george , but its saddening really bec people are thinking that its a still but in reality it's just st a waste of money and precious time.

Yes it is cheaper bec you are buying piece by piece , but if you try to compute the cost per square meter it will end up almost similar to a well constructed room.

I wouldnt last this long if i did short cuts or tried to scrimp on materials used. Most of the theaters i built, after 5yrs it still looks brand new as if newly built. So far no probl m encountered.

The secret? I always treat each ht i build as if its my own. Lots of sleepless nights  figuring out whats the best design for every room. Up to now no 2 rooms are the same design(crazy me hahaha)

Im glad that ive been part of your build ( framings) and thank you for the trust george.

Sorry for the ot, but i was the one before who wanted george to expose the other guy and its not pareng nelson de leon ha, the other guy pa. Saw the materials he was using and its for another purpose. Good marketing lang sya is nlike me walang marketing skills lol.

Haha! Thank you for clearing that out. Hehe! Go Ricky! I've also encountered many problems regarding wrong treatment by enhancing certain frequencies while mitigating the other frequencies.

Unfortunately acoustic is not supposed to be "hit and miss" thing. It's an exact science. Honestly, HT is suppose to be "not that sensitive" when it comes to treatment BUT deserves equal attention as well.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 26, 2016 at 02:23 PM
Hi Nelson, I've only got good things to say about you   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 26, 2016 at 05:18 PM
Hi Nelson, I've only got good things to say about you   ;D

Let's keep it that way. Haha!  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 27, 2016 at 07:08 AM
Let's keep it that way. Haha!  ;D
Oldboyracer kamusta!  ;D
i know some of konsi nelson's secret ;D

konsi ill sms you..
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Oct 27, 2016 at 08:28 PM

The gear that I have selected subject to any new additions to manufacturers ranges is :- Screen ?(further research & availability required), projector - Sony VPL-HW45ES, pre/pro - Marantz AV7703, amps - Emotiva XPA 5 & 6 Gen 3. I would have liked to have gone for a laser projector but have decided to keep the costs sensible as I'm upgrading the AV receiver.
A little war & peace but that where I am at the moment. As this post has got a little long I'll start another about the acoustics.
 

those are good gear choices, OBR! :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Oct 28, 2016 at 07:40 AM
those are good gear choices, OBR! :D

Thanks DTNS, I decided on the pre/pro to give flexibility for the future   >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 28, 2016 at 08:22 AM
Thanks DTNS, I decided on the pre/pro to give flexibility for the future   >:D
Emo gen 3!

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Nov 16, 2016 at 01:38 PM
Thought time for an update.
After 3 days repairing the seat riser I found more live termites so have decided to remove all the wood & replace with concrete.
I've strained a wrist so working 1 handed & progress has been a little slow. The seat riser will be completely removed tomorrow & then I'll start on the stage which shouldn't be too bad as it's a lot smaller. My father in law wants as much of the wood that can be saved so making the dismantling a little harder.
Thankfully I have found the termites entry point which wasn't visible until all the carpet had been removed. The floor slab has cracked between the stage & seat riser so 1st job will to repair it & then we'll start the concreting.
Updates to follow.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 01, 2016 at 03:13 PM
All the wood framing has now been removed & just the clearing up to do, I will post a couple of pics. As the room is in a state of disrepair I've had a good think about what modifications I should do. I've decided to go 7.1.4 (with a view to 7.2.4 later on) so my wide fronts will become my rear presence speakers. I'm busy designing the bits & pieces I'll need including for the projector install. Xmas is coming so progress will be slow until after the festivities  :D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 01, 2016 at 10:39 PM
Hehe! That much action for our hobby. Hehe!

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 02, 2016 at 12:19 PM
Hi Nelson, yep lots of action but all prompted by Mr. Termite so maybe I ought thank him for my impending upgrade   ;) ;D.
I've been without my HT room for over a year now so enough's enough & I've bit the bullet. With my HT room as it is it would be rather silly not to upgrade so lots of work with a view to much relaxing  >:D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 02, 2016 at 03:54 PM
Hi Nelson, yep lots of action but all prompted by Mr. Termite so maybe I ought thank him for my impending upgrade   ;) ;D.
I've been without my HT room for over a year now so enough's enough & I've bit the bullet. With my HT room as it is it would be rather silly not to upgrade so lots of work with a view to much relaxing  >:D.


Yeah. I totally agree with you that it's definitely silly not to upgrade. Haha!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 03, 2016 at 08:13 PM
Yeah. I totally agree with you that it's definitely silly not to upgrade. Haha!
You can laugh, knowing my luck I'll have speaker problems when the HT is finally up & running, my pocket is dreading that  ;) :D.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 03, 2016 at 08:30 PM
Well at least that's a good problem. How many people here would love to have that problem.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Dec 08, 2016 at 11:38 AM
welcome back sir!

Thank you for the updates
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: gerald9974 on Dec 09, 2016 at 11:27 AM
hello
is anyone familiar with polyester Board? is it better than accoustic board? the installer told me just paste the board to wall no need to attach rock wool?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: GIJoe on Dec 09, 2016 at 11:30 AM
hello
is anyone familiar with polyester Board? is it better than accoustic board? the installer told me just paste the board to wall no need to attach rock wool?

eto ata yan mukhang ididikit mo na lang.

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Dec 09, 2016 at 01:56 PM
^yes you can simple attach it to existing wall to act as absorbers.but for better overall treatment i still frame this. This is way better than fabric, kind of hard to process lang esp the high density ones.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 10, 2016 at 05:26 PM
welcome back sir!

Thank you for the updates

Thanks Marlon,
Things a bit slow at the moment, besides straining my wrist I've torn ligaments in my knee so will probably rest till after Xmas.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 10, 2016 at 05:28 PM
Hi Ricky,
I'm being a bit slow with the drawings but will get them to you soon.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Dec 10, 2016 at 06:45 PM
No problem george , take your time. Important thing is you get well soon. Been busy too so have not replied yet.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Dec 13, 2016 at 10:21 PM
Well at least that's a good problem. How many people here would love to have that problem.
I would think many would like this problem but maybe their banks would not   ;).
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: gerald9974 on Dec 22, 2016 at 10:47 AM
thanks
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2017 at 03:53 PM
Time for an update.
Things have been a little slow, my architect has let me down badly & after 3 weeks of chasing finally let me know he couldn't get any labour. I ended up employing a local mason who wants to do the job on his own & he's turned out to be an excellent worker. The crack in the floor slab was dug out, then a coat of cement epoxy & then filled with cement. We've had to leave it for 2 weeks to dry out thoroughly before applying a coat of epoxy sealer to the whole floor. The sealer was applied today, evil stuff, it filled the house with fumes much to everyone's disgust. Tomorrow we start in earnest with the remaking of the stage & seat riser. In the mean time a few pics of what's been happening.

The HT room bare waiting for the crack to be chipped out. The crack is visible as a light brown line on the left side of the 1st pic.

(https://i.imgur.com/f9GA0lH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aeNxTgR.jpg)

The crack chipped out.

(https://i.imgur.com/YNb8SBi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tnVcnpD.jpg)

The repair complete waiting for it to dry out.

(https://i.imgur.com/8HlO1qf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UjURBHD.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 25, 2017 at 04:54 PM
Gears update, ordered & waiting delivery :-
Marantz AV7703 pre/pro
Emotiva XPA5 Gen 3
Emotiva XPA6 Gen3
Epson TW8300
120" Elite screen
PBR2 projector bracket
Thanks to avshop/MLY
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: comet on Jan 25, 2017 at 06:31 PM
Great  updates sir!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 26, 2017 at 01:03 AM
Gen 3 !!! Idol! Hehe!

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 26, 2017 at 01:04 AM


Gen 3 !!! Like! Hehe!

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 26, 2017 at 07:53 AM
Great  updates sir!
Thanks comet.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 26, 2017 at 08:16 AM
Hi Nelson,  I'm buying without an audition so it'll be interesting to see if the XPA's are as good as they say they are. My fronts were being driven from a Cambridge Audio combo 840E & 840W so eager to compare with the Marantz/XPA.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 26, 2017 at 01:23 PM
Hi Nelson,  I'm buying without an audition so it'll be interesting to see if the XPA's are as good as they say they are. My fronts were being driven from a Cambridge Audio combo 840E & 840W so eager to compare with the Marantz/XPA.

Normally based on my experience, A/B compared to class D, the class D sounds leaner but tighter.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 26, 2017 at 01:35 PM
Normally based on my experience, A/B compared to class D, the class D sounds leaner but tighter.

I'll let you know what I think.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 26, 2017 at 01:40 PM
Normally based on my experience, A/B compared to class D, the class D sounds leaner but tighter.

Thinking about it the 840W is not a class D, it's an A/B at low power & reverts to class A at high power.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 26, 2017 at 11:07 PM


Thinking about it the 840W is not a class D, it's an A/B at low power & reverts to class A at high power.

Yup!!!!  It's A/B in a different way. Hehe!

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 27, 2017 at 01:29 PM

Yup!!!!  It's A/B in a different way. Hehe!

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At the levels I listen it's more like class A in a different way   >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Jan 27, 2017 at 04:55 PM
Its nice to see your project rolling again sir... we also learn through your experiences. Saan ka uli sa Cebu Sir?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 31, 2017 at 05:48 PM
Its nice to see your project rolling again sir... we also learn through your experiences. Saan ka uli sa Cebu Sir?
Hi Jeff, yes the upgrades are rolling again thanks to Mr Termite but better to do all the repair & prevention work now rather than later. I live about 10 minutes drive from Lilioan.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 31, 2017 at 06:06 PM
Repair update.
After 1 layer of epoxy sealer on the floor a few more hairline cracks were noticeable so put down another coat. I wasn't quite sure what else to do with the floor but finding the extra cracks made my mind up. We have coated the floor with coal tar (thanks to RXV pointing me in that direction) as it's a termite deterrent & then I've laid GI sheet on top. I have made sure there will be no vibration & noise coming from the sheets, I also used low to medium density rubber to isolate the sheets from the walls. We start the rebuilding of the stage & seat riser tomorrow, I will be busy organizing the modifications to take the new gears. When the stage & seat riser are complete I will have the room repainted. I have removed all the Velcro patches that a certain acoustics installer had stuck to the walls & the room now looks like it's got white chicken pox, hence the repaint.
I'll post a few pics later after I've eaten.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jan 31, 2017 at 09:32 PM
New gears :-
Recently arrived, Van Damme starquad XLR cable with Neutrik gold connectors & Van Damme HDMI cable for the projector.

(https://i.imgur.com/jAGF3lR.jpg)

Arrived today :-
Emotiva XPA 5 & XPA 6 Gen 3, Marantz AV7703, Epson EH-TW8300, Elite 120" screen, Sabre projector mount & 3D glasses.

(https://i.imgur.com/9QcFgAm.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 01, 2017 at 12:38 AM
Big guns!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 01, 2017 at 07:24 AM
Yup but got to wait for a few weeks before I can play with them  >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: kefq on Feb 01, 2017 at 10:34 AM
Wow  :) good luck on those gears. sarap makinig nyan for sure
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 03, 2017 at 07:49 AM
Wow  :) good luck on those gears. sarap makinig nyan for sure

Thanks kefq, yes I'm hoping for much happy listening & viewing but 1st we've got to finish re building the HT room.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 06, 2017 at 04:04 PM
Repair update, Stage has been cemented only requiring plaster on the front vertical face. Formworks for the seat riser nosings in progress so should be complete end of day Wednesday, Thursday for the steps & plaster so coming along well.
A few pics of the progress.

2 pics of the stage area prior to tipping the concrete.

(https://i.imgur.com/S0mzUJ8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wmGdViR.jpg)

2 pics of the seat riser area.

(https://i.imgur.com/gxJjKcp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dcJ9eYK.jpg)

2 pics of the stage now complete except for plaster on the vertical front face.

(https://i.imgur.com/5WCkskI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GUDepA1.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: RXV on Feb 06, 2017 at 08:22 PM
Repair update.
After 1 layer of epoxy sealer on the floor a few more hairline cracks were noticeable so put down another coat. I wasn't quite sure what else to do with the floor but finding the extra cracks made my mind up. We have coated the floor with coal tar (thanks to RXV pointing me in that direction) as it's a termite deterrent & then I've laid GI sheet on top. I have made sure there will be no vibration & noise coming from the sheets, I also used low to medium density rubber to isolate the sheets from the walls. We start the rebuilding of the stage & seat riser tomorrow, I will be busy organizing the modifications to take the new gears. When the stage & seat riser are complete I will have the room repainted. I have removed all the Velcro patches that a certain acoustics installer had stuck to the walls & the room now looks like it's got white chicken pox, hence the repaint.
I'll post a few pics later after I've eaten.

Hi sir.

Good to see your HT being nicely rebuilt. I used the black coal tar and painted it directly to the wood for termite-proofing. I can attest that it works because I also used them on the wooden fences at our backyard (bore 1 meter deep) and not one wood has been infested by termites (Our backyard has a LOT of termites by the way). It also acts as a water-resistant barrier (although not water-proof).
FYI, Out of O.C'ness :), I also used black coal tar on our wooden ceiling frame. Unlike Solignum, black coal tar once applied will stay forever with the wood. Only downside is that it is a bit messy and can't be used on exposed surfaces.But it's cheap and works well.

 Hope to see your project get finished soon! :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 06, 2017 at 10:38 PM
OBR, are those glass tiles?!!!  :o 

If yes, those are awfully expensive tiles!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 08, 2017 at 05:01 PM
OBR, are those glass tiles?!!!  :o 

If yes, those are awfully expensive tiles!

Hi Nelson, no not tiles, it's the GI sheet before it got dirty, the reflections played havoc with the pictures. The concrete for the seat riser will be poured tomorrow, ceiling fan will be removed on Saturday & the plasma screen out on Monday. I'm waiting for a few bits & pieces to arrive so cracking on with projector installation. 
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 08, 2017 at 07:27 PM
Hi sir.

Good to see your HT being nicely rebuilt. I used the black coal tar and painted it directly to the wood for termite-proofing. I can attest that it works because I also used them on the wooden fences at our backyard (bore 1 meter deep) and not one wood has been infested by termites (Our backyard has a LOT of termites by the way). It also acts as a water-resistant barrier (although not water-proof).
FYI, Out of O.C'ness :), I also used black coal tar on our wooden ceiling frame. Unlike Solignum, black coal tar once applied will stay forever with the wood. Only downside is that it is a bit messy and can't be used on exposed surfaces.But it's cheap and works well.

 Hope to see your project get finished soon! :)

Hi RXV, yes we're going slowly with the rebuild & not rushing anything, I have an excellent guy working by himself except for a couple of helpers I get for concrete mixing. I've got no wood but decided to coat the floor in coal tar in case any further cracks in the floor splits the epoxy resin coat. Thanks for pointing me in that direction, I didn't know it was available plus no one else mentioned it.
I'm looking to powering up the new gear in about 4 weeks so being a little patient.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: JeromeA on Feb 10, 2017 at 01:33 PM
congrats sir for your hardcore set up
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 12, 2017 at 04:06 PM
Thanks Emorej.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Feb 18, 2017 at 06:00 PM
Repair update :-
Seat riser now complete & drying out (see pics).
Plasma screen taken out this morning & now in storage.
Ceiling fan removed.
Modification for the projector cable run in progress.
Screen frame to sit on the plasma mount will be started on Monday.
My painter comes tomorrow, he can only work Sundays which means 2 or 3 Sundays to complete but I still have a lot of work to do so no problem.
All the mold/mildew has been killed.
I have a friend coming from the UK, arrives Tuesday, he lays carpets so hopefully he will assist before he leaves.

(https://i.imgur.com/Qf0rACj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Xbn1cj8.jpg)

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 06, 2017 at 05:07 PM
Repair update :-
The repaint is now complete, projector bracket installed, cables in & boxing in almost complete, it would have been finished today but my workman is sick. I've almost completed the screen bracket, I've made it out of Aluminum box section that was to be used for the stage & seat riser repair. As it rang like a bell I've spent today filling the sections (3" x 1 3/4") with expanding foam - what a job that was. Tomorrow I will trim the foam, repaint & fit on Wednesday. Brackets for the rear Atmos ceiling speakers made, painted, fitted & cables run in. Carpet should be relaid Thursday/Friday, looks like I'll be doing it myself so that'll be a slow job especially if I hit any snags. The weekend looks good for putting in all the gears & connecting, power up early part of next week   ;D.

Stage area.

(https://i.imgur.com/nKreCZE.jpg)

The rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/lXgWD8s.jpg)

Projector bracket.

(https://i.imgur.com/ahibwPJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 06, 2017 at 07:20 PM
Really looking good and looking forward to that power-up!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 07, 2017 at 11:18 AM
Really looking good and looking forward to that power-up!

Thanks Nelson, the boxing in turned out better than I expected & I'm also looking forward to the power up   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 07, 2017 at 11:23 AM
You might want to put sound absorbers at the rear because projector screens are also highly reflective of sound.

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 07, 2017 at 11:45 AM
Hi Nelson, the acoustics will be the next job. I need to find time to do some drawings for Ricky to look at & come up with a plan, I've been that busy the acoustics has taken a real back seat.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 09, 2017 at 06:00 PM
Repair update :-
Boxing in of the projector cables complete.
Door step board fitted, it's taken 4 months to get the board but picked it up yesterday after uttering a few threats to my architect. What do you know, it did not fit, too long & too wide but it was stained & finished well. Managed to trim it to fit without damaging the finish then stuck down with 'No Nails'.
Switch for the redundant ceiling fan removed,  hole filled & painted. I would like to have kept it there as a 'just in case' but I will be fitting an acoustic panel in that position,
Stage carpet fitted & the 3 edges tucked, front will be stuck to the nosing tomorrow. A bit slow on this as my 1st attempt at carpet laying & having to repair the underlay (padding) that the guys who took up the floor tore apart.
Everything is going to schedule even though we've had a few hiccups so well pleased.

The stage area.

(https://i.imgur.com/1AetSbU.jpg)
   
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 11, 2017 at 05:57 PM
Repair update :-
Had a very productive 2 days, carpet re lay completed, screen mounting bracket completed & fitted, equipment rack in place, projector fitted & power connected, surround speakers fitted & connected, seats re assembled & in position. tomorrow I will assemble the screen & fit so still looking good for the power up early next week. I think I may need some more cable trunking but will arrange the cabling so I can retrofit if needed.
The room is now looking almost as intended, pics below.

(https://i.imgur.com/ClyamhH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ug1lNNf.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 11, 2017 at 06:23 PM
Alright! A dedicated room for a very dedicated owner. Hehe!

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Mar 11, 2017 at 07:41 PM
Its really a GREAT Face Lift! The red hue is very Cinematic!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 12, 2017 at 09:10 AM
Alright! A dedicated room for a very dedicated owner. Hehe!

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You've got that right Nelson, interestingly the wife has been asking when the room will be completed, I think she has thoughts of having a sleep in one of the recliners while I'm watching  a film   ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 12, 2017 at 09:18 AM
Its really a GREAT Face Lift! The red hue is very Cinematic!

Thanks at_sunset_blvd, not so much of a face lift but more of a major repair, a gears upgrade & the acoustics will be redone when I get round to it.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 12, 2017 at 01:35 PM
You've got that right Nelson, interestingly the wife has been asking when the room will be completed, I think she has thoughts of having a sleep in one of the recliners while I'm watching  a film   ;D

A dedicated occupant of your recliner seat!

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 12, 2017 at 07:18 PM
A dedicated occupant of your recliner seat!

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Yes, she's admitted today that she'll be a permanent resident in the HT room as the air conditioning will be running.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: toys4geeks on Mar 13, 2017 at 10:31 AM
Wow, what's the dimension of the room from viewing to the rear?

Very nice layout


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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 13, 2017 at 04:00 PM
Wow, what's the dimension of the room from viewing to the rear?

Very nice layout


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Thanks toys4geeks, the room is 22.75' x 16', front wall to screen 2', screen to front row 10.5', screen to 2nd row 15.5'. I have enough room for a 3rd row so that may be a future upgrade. Now I have the screen up I don't mind either row so don't know which seat I'll be sitting in until I start watching but I'm guessing it'll be the front.
Title: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: toys4geeks on Mar 14, 2017 at 02:18 PM
Thanks toys4geeks, the room is 22.75' x 16', front wall to screen 2', screen to front row 10.5', screen to 2nd row 15.5'. I have enough room for a 3rd row so that may be a future upgrade. Now I have the screen up I don't mind either row so don't know which seat I'll be sitting in until I start watching but I'm guessing it'll be the front.
When you are all set up , PM me when you need a kodi box because I so like to be part of your journey as I've seen this thread for some time and learned a lot. Half off on those kodi boxes sound good? :)


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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 15, 2017 at 08:59 PM
When you are all set up , PM me when you need a kodi box because I so like to be part of your journey as I've seen this thread for some time and learned a lot. Half off on those kodi boxes sound good? :)


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Hoping to be set up at the weekend, ran into some unexpected problems that required modifications so a little behind schedule.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 20, 2017 at 05:50 PM
Update,
Around 4 days behind schedule due to sourcing materials mainly, plus modifications to the equipment rack & all the silly little jobs like refitting the inner door, at 40 Kg not an easy feat with only 2 people. The speaker cabling proved to be a problem due to to now having 2 amps rather than 1 AV Receiver & having to match up the inputs as my XLR cables were all 1 length but all sorted & connected. The only acoustic parts I'm keeping are the corner bass traps but their build quality is so bad I have made aesthetic covers which will be completed & fitted tomorrow. This has held me up a little as I need the front covers in place so I can re position the sub, I have less space as the screen now takes up an extra 15" on either side. All connections will be complete tomorrow so I'm looking at a Wednesday power up   >:D.
I'll post some pics when all complete, the room is too cluttered at the moment.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Mar 20, 2017 at 07:32 PM
Cant wait to see it OBR  :o

Need a hand I'm just a few hours away but w/ a very bad back, for surely I cant do anything w/ that 40kg door  :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 21, 2017 at 10:15 AM
Cant wait to see it OBR  :o

Need a hand I'm just a few hours away but w/ a very bad back, for surely I cant do anything w/ that 40kg door  :D

Hi at_sunset_blvd, thanks for the offer of help but we've almost completed now including the door. My back is also bad, I have a misplaced disc just below my neck, something I've had to live with for a lot of years so understand your discomfort.
Your welcome to visit anytime just give me a little notice.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 22, 2017 at 12:41 PM
Update :-
My estimation of the power up date doesn't seem to be very accurate, some things are taking way longer than I envisioned. We will complete & fit the bass trap covers today, I'm allowing tomorrow for double checking everything & will start powering up on Friday.
We have run into another slight problem with the acoustics, Ricky was going redo for me but due to time constraints, prior commitments & the distance between us he will continue as my consultant. All his advice so far has been spot on & would not hesitate to recommend him to supply acoustic solutions whether it be executing the treatment solution or acting as a consultant. I will now make my own panels with Ricky's guidance so the room completion is now a little further down the line. I will start using the room as is, I can only detect a small amount of ringing with the hand clap so will take the opportunity to arrive at a solution a little bit at a time.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Mar 22, 2017 at 03:58 PM
Thank you george for the appreciation. Sad thing that i cannot  go there yet, schedule very unforgiving. Also pls do share for our fellows what happened to your first treatments. I knew from the start that it wont be good and its not cheap . But dont want to say something until yours came out.  I dont want our fellow members to lose money on it
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 22, 2017 at 07:31 PM
No problem Ricky, you give credit where it is due
Not to worry, when your schedule is a bit more friendly we can sort something out.
I posted on page 40 of this thread my feelings about the acoustic treatment I had installed. I have had to make alterations to 2 of the bass traps due to them all being larger than the sizes I ordered & on dismantling them my true description of the workmanship would be censored. I am gobsmacked at the quality of workmanship & materials, these would not be accepted free in the UK. I could criticize the installation a whole lot more but it would not achieve anything, I know Ricky would like me to name names but that's not  the way I operate but I'm quite happy to converse by PM. For all of you who are looking for acoustic treatment I would suggest you PM me & I'll do my best to help, I don't want anyone else to make the same mistake I did.
As I wish to forget about this episode I class the subject as closed  (publicly) but quite happy to answer any questions by PM.   
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Mar 22, 2017 at 09:34 PM
Thanks George, you are doing it for our pdvd group naman
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 22, 2017 at 09:59 PM
Thanks George, you are doing it for our pdvd group naman

 ;) :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: kefq on Mar 23, 2017 at 08:58 AM
These days, so many acoustician wanna be, are joining the band wagon with their so called acoustic treatment, only to find out that their promised solution is just a bunch of foams with no absorption and deflection properties.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 23, 2017 at 09:54 AM
Hi kefq, you've got it in 1. There are 2 parts to the equation, first you have to have the knowledge to design a solution (or hire an expert) & second you have to have the skills to implement the design, both were lacking in my installation. After a lot of reading on acoustics I am going to try an unorthodox approach & see where it takes me.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 27, 2017 at 08:49 AM
Update :-
I put the power up on hold for a short time as I have been assisting my repair man. By trade he's a mason (an extremely good one) also works for a furniture company making cabinets & everything he turns his hand to he tries to be perfect. He's been with me for 11 weeks now & we've done the HT room rebuild together but unfortunately I can't split myself in two so have had to assist him so he knows exactly what I want. Friday & Saturday we cut all the wood & assembled 14 acoustic panels, they are now ready for filling with Rockwool & covering with fabric. To be on the safe side I will paint the carcasses black in case the light colour of the pine shows through. It'll probably take a day to sort out the way in which the panels will be hung, I have a fairly cheap solution, it just requires implementing.
I'm all ready to power up & may do so later as it looks as if my man is having a day off (he hasn't arrived yet), it all depends on how I get on with the acoustic panels. I will clear the room & post some pics later.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 28, 2017 at 06:10 PM
Update :-
Delaying the power up till the weekend, I can't position the subwoofer until I have fitted the front acoustic panels (not enough room). The 1st 8 panels have been painted & the other 6 will be trimmed, sanded & painted tomorrow morning. We will start filling the panels & fitting the fabric tomorrow & will hang them Friday & Saturday. Until then a few pics.

Lunchtime today, 1st 3 acoustic panel carcasses trimmed & sanded.

(https://i.imgur.com/CLCxnDE.jpg)

End of work today, 1st 8 acoustic panel carcasses painted & ready for completion.

(https://i.imgur.com/MxZoDNu.jpg)

My DIY corner bass trap covers - front left.

(https://i.imgur.com/lvwkjiL.jpg)

My DIY corner bass trap covers - rear right.

(https://i.imgur.com/2bQHteU.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 29, 2017 at 07:43 PM
Update :-
The 1st 8 panels are now filled with Rockwool & the 4 small ones have the Rockwool wrapped in fabric. We will fill the other 6 & wrap all before wrapping the panels in the finishing fabric. A couple of pics.
It looks a go for powering up on Sunday.

Rockwool filling added.

(https://i.imgur.com/JUxE4CT.jpg)

Rockwool wrapped in fabric.

(https://i.imgur.com/vuiBoDK.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: RXV on Mar 29, 2017 at 08:48 PM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 30, 2017 at 06:13 AM
Thanks RXV.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 30, 2017 at 03:22 PM
I think I'm smelling fermented grape juice already.


 ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 30, 2017 at 05:55 PM
Nelson, you're absolutely correct  >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Mar 30, 2017 at 06:09 PM
Update :-
Ran into a little problem which has hampered the acoustic panel build. The Rockwool I have seems a bit strange, it is supposed to be 50mm but is 60mm at one edge & 100mm at the opposite edge so have trimmed it to fit. I'm hoping the other rolls I have are not the same. 60mm is not a problem, I purchased 3" x 1" Pine for the carcass but turns out to be 2 1/2" x 3/4" which is OK as the Rockwool sat in fine until it increased to 100mm halfway through the roll. The 4 smaller panels are complete, we will finish 2 larger panels & hang them 1st thing tomorrow, put the subwoofer in position so I can power up on Sunday when my man has his day off. I'm estimating that there will be 5 panels to cover on Monday so I'll be able to do a proper calibration on Tuesday. The 2nd pic is for Ricky & my question is  - How are my corners ?

1st 4 panels complete.

(https://i.imgur.com/7EdjnaM.jpg)

A close up of the corners.

(https://i.imgur.com/HxC5FOU.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 02, 2017 at 11:06 PM
Update :-
4 panels to be covered with fabric tomorrow & 12 to hang so will be completed on Tuesday. Powered up today & considering no set up the sound was good. Only 1 problem, my sub is not working, acting as if it has no power, a little job for me tomorrow. The PQ of the 8300 out of the box is very good & as my eyes are not what they used to be I will not bother to get it calibrated unless other viewers pass comment. Will do a full set up Tuesday/Wednesday & take some pics, well happy so far.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 02, 2017 at 11:17 PM
You'll have to wait for a few hours for bulb break-in.

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 03, 2017 at 12:03 AM
Hi Nelson, after all the hard work I think think the PJ will have to wait a few hours for me to break in  ;D Seriously, even though none of the gears have yet reached their optimum performance everything was really good. Looking forward to many hours of viewing & if I get the acoustics right, listening.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 03, 2017 at 08:49 PM
Hi Nelson, after all the hard work I think think the PJ will have to wait a few hours for me to break in  ;D Seriously, even though none of the gears have yet reached their optimum performance everything was really good. Looking forward to many hours of viewing & if I get the acoustics right, listening.

Yeah!!! And how are the power amps performing?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 03, 2017 at 11:11 PM
Yeah!!! And how are the power amps performing?

I'm well happy, the amps are great considering no burn in & the subwoofer is OK, turned out to be a bad outlet. 6 acoustic panels hung so the other 8 tomorrow & then I'll do a calibration. I've decided to make 8 diffuser panels, one can only experiment.
Pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: marlon1925 on Apr 04, 2017 at 09:25 AM
Update :-
The 1st 8 panels are now filled with Rockwool & the 4 small ones have the Rockwool wrapped in fabric. We will fill the other 6 & wrap all before wrapping the panels in the finishing fabric. A couple of pics.
It looks a go for powering up on Sunday.

Rockwool filling added.
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Acoustic%20panel%20build%20March%2029%202017%20001_zps76ihogl2.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Acoustic%20panel%20build%20March%2029%202017%20001_zps76ihogl2.jpg.html)

Rockwool wrapped in fabric.
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac146/gsamways/Acoustic%20panel%20build%20March%2029%202017%20002._zpsialau9pu.jpg) (http://s894.photobucket.com/user/gsamways/media/Acoustic%20panel%20build%20March%2029%202017%20002._zpsialau9pu.jpg.html)


where did you get these rockwool blankets?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 04, 2017 at 03:14 PM
Hi Marlon, I got the Rockwool from Insuphil, P2100 for 5M roll 1200mm wide 60kg.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on Apr 04, 2017 at 07:30 PM
George my man, nice corners! I should be the one asking you to teach me with upholstery work hahaha. Snce you are usin3"x1" pine, may i suggest you drill holes on the sides for added effect. 1-1/2" holes will do just fine.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 04, 2017 at 09:08 PM
Thanks for that Ricky, a bit too late for the holes all the panels are made & hung on the walls. I've decided to make some diffusers to try but that will not be for a week or two, a problem getting the materials to the house.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 04, 2017 at 09:24 PM
All panels hung but my pics are crap, the screen has blocked the front lights so my camera is not focusing properly. I will sort the pics I have tomorrow & post along with ones of the gears powered up. I've around 24% acoustic coverage including the corner bass traps so leaves me a lot of leeway for experimenting. Without calibration both movie & audio look/sound good so I'll be doing a calibration tomorrow & post my impressions.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 05, 2017 at 06:25 PM
Calibration didn't happen today, made another small panel to cover a junction box under the AC unit (will be hung in the morning) & got my man started on the diffusers. The HT room has now been cleared & is ready to go except for the calibration.
Having just looked at my pics, they're crap, it just proves to me I'd never be a photographer but it'll give you an idea of what the room is looking like now. I wasn't able to get a shot of the rear left but hopefully that might happen with extra light reflected from the screen. I have left the 1st reflection point with no treatment as this is an area of personal preference whether it be reflection, absorption or diffusion. If left reflective you get a more spacial sound & as I've only around 24% coverage it gives me plenty of opportunity for experimentation.

The front.

(https://i.imgur.com/35BPMLy.jpg)

Right side rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/PoBwHOc.jpg)

Left side front.

(https://i.imgur.com/maxED0M.jpg)

Right side rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/qNaOYTy.jpg)

Right side front.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ouv5hLn.jpg)

Rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/VcBlsDk.jpg)

The gears.

(https://i.imgur.com/nVxqAFW.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 06, 2017 at 12:23 AM
With your gears, even without auto EQ, just delay/distance adjustments only,I'm sure it sounds excellent.

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 06, 2017 at 11:24 AM
That's what I've found so far Nelson.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: DTNS on Apr 08, 2017 at 06:34 PM
your HT build progress is looking good!  :D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 08, 2017 at 11:56 PM
Thanks DTNS, putting off the calibration until I have the diffusers hung. All the timber has been cut so assembly starts on Monday. To start with I'll add 6 & see where that takes me. Sounds pretty good without calibration, the Emotiva's are a bit warmer than the Cambridge Audio which is pretty much what I expected. The room has got the wife's approval, after a few mutterings about the cost she's admitted it's worth the expense.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 16, 2017 at 11:01 AM
Newly arrived HIMEDIA Q10 pro fitted with a 6TB hard drive, courtesy of sir Jim at Toys4geeks - a pleasure to deal with you sir Jim.

(https://i.imgur.com/Eu6ska1.jpg)

My helper is having an Easter weekend break (4 days) so the diffusers should be completed & hung by the end of the week so calibration hopefully at the weekend. It'll give me some time to learn how to drive the Q10.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: toys4geeks on Apr 16, 2017 at 03:24 PM
Pleasure to be part of this journey of yours


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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 04, 2017 at 06:57 PM
Update :-
The HT room almost fully completed, only 2 outstanding jobs.
1) Get & fit plugs to the holes in the wall that were drilled to apply the termite killing chemical.
2) Fit the lower louvre to hide the aircon unit. It has already been made once & went back to have a fly mesh window fitted so I could use the aircon remote. Unfortunately the company disappeared along with my louvre losing P7K. I have just had another company measure up & waiting for the quote.
In the mean time the diffusers have been completed & hung. I have made them a geometric shape (semicircular) but to work properly they should have been deeper. As the the sound was quite good without them I went more for aesthetics, they will do something to the acoustics so still at the experimental stage. I have done the 1st calibration & to be honest I prefer the sound before I calibrated so I have a little more experimenting to do.
A few pics below.

Rear.

 (https://i.imgur.com/qCPorcr.jpg)

Left side rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/6MeM9z5.jpg)

Left side front.

(https://i.imgur.com/RfPQBzu.jpg)

Right side rear.

(https://i.imgur.com/8G3ZTc9.jpg)

Right side front.

(https://i.imgur.com/3Mqrv0C.jpg)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 04, 2017 at 08:42 PM
Its looks like a job well done!

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on May 04, 2017 at 09:16 PM
Its looks like a job well done!

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time to visit master councilor fluffy?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 04, 2017 at 09:41 PM
time to visit master councilor fluffy?
He lives so far from Manila. Hehe!

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on May 04, 2017 at 09:41 PM
He lives so far from Manila. Hehe!

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road trip!!!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 04, 2017 at 09:43 PM
road trip!!!
You need a boat or plane trip to get there!

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ninjababez® on May 04, 2017 at 09:45 PM
You need a boat or plane trip to get there!

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let's use your bizjet master ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: toys4geeks on May 04, 2017 at 09:57 PM
wow! it is coming along really well. :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 04, 2017 at 10:05 PM
let's use your bizjet master ;D

Sira. Haha! Si master Stagea lang ang meron nun.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 05, 2017 at 10:46 AM
Its looks like a job well done!

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Thanks Nelson, it's taken a bit of time, well worth it but the pics do not do the room justice. All I have to do now is to get the room sounding how I like it & job done. Then will be the time for much viewing & listening.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 05, 2017 at 10:47 AM
wow! it is coming along really well. :)

Thanks sir Jim, it's been hard work but well worth it.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 05, 2017 at 10:53 AM
You're welcome to visit guys but unfortunately a 1 hour flight from Manila or a much longer ferry trip. The only good thing is I can see Mactan (Cebu) airport from my terrace, around 1.5 kilometers as the crow flies so getting to the house is no problem.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 05, 2017 at 11:32 AM
Gears list updated on page 1.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 05, 2017 at 11:34 AM
Thanks Nelson, it's taken a bit of time, well worth it but the pics do not do the room justice. All I have to do now is to get the room sounding how I like it & job done. Then will be the time for much viewing & listening.
Based on my experience, a few glasses of wine will really help improve the sound. It will also induce you to test your system's capacity to produce sound way above the 85db mark.







YMMV.

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 05, 2017 at 02:12 PM
Based on my experience, a few glasses of wine will really help improve the sound. It will also induce you to test your system's capacity to produce sound way above the 85db mark.







YMMV.

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Sir Nelson, you are a man after my own heart only I use San Mig as I drink wine like beer & wouldn't see the end of any film  ;D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 07, 2017 at 01:51 AM
Sir Nelson, you are a man after my own heart only I use San Mig as I drink wine like beer & wouldn't see the end of any film  ;D
That is why wine and film doesn't match. Here's the way it should go:

Beer = movies

Wine = music

See! Its logical!




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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 07, 2017 at 02:43 PM
That is why wine and film doesn't match. Here's the way it should go:

Beer = movies

Wine = music

See! Its logical!




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Yep very logical so I'll rephrase my comment - on wine I'd never get to the end of an album   ;) :)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on May 09, 2017 at 10:05 AM
Congrats OBR on the job well done.  Pictures are just 10% of your theater feel. Maybe we can get free movie passes when we go to Cebu. (http://www.myemoticons.com/images/animals/dogs/road-trip.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: JeromeA on May 09, 2017 at 11:47 AM
wow! ganda naman. congrats sir.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 09, 2017 at 09:35 PM
Congrats OBR on the job well done.  Pictures are just 10% of your theater feel. Maybe we can get free movie passes when we go to Cebu. (http://www.myemoticons.com/images/animals/dogs/road-trip.gif)

No problem Doc just give me a little notice to arrange the food & refreshments.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 09, 2017 at 09:36 PM
wow! ganda naman. congrats sir.

Thanks Emorej.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 14, 2017 at 02:17 PM
I have have now done a proper calibration using all 8 mic positions & the difference is like night & day compared to the 1st calibration where I only used 3 positions. It'll teach me to read all the literature 1st instead of relying on what I've already experienced. The sub seems a bit lacking in volume but will assess the situation once I have watched films with known low end content.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 14, 2017 at 06:58 PM
There's always the xover cutoff option from the receiver and the subwoofer gain to compensate for our preferences. You're right. When it comes to movies, there's nothing like a good low end.

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 14, 2017 at 11:59 PM
Your right Nelson, I've got to do a little experimenting. I will probably use Terminator Salvation for my testing as that has good reference sound.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on May 15, 2017 at 06:17 AM
I have have now done a proper calibration using all 8 mic positions & the difference is like night & day compared to the 1st calibration where I only used 3 positions. It'll teach me to read all the literature 1st instead of relying on what I've already experienced. The sub seems a bit lacking in volume but will assess the situation once I have watched films with known low end content.

Usually using the mic calibration the sub lacks the output based on our preference. I usually add +6 to the output level of the sub after calibration.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 17, 2017 at 07:31 PM
Usually using the mic calibration the sub lacks the output based on our preference. I usually add +6 to the output level of the sub after calibration.

I've always done that in the past doc. but having done a little reading about Audyssey & the reasons why the sub output may appear to be low I thought I'd wait until I'd listened to a known reference before tweaking it.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on May 17, 2017 at 08:24 PM
I've always done that in the past doc. but having done a little reading about Audyssey & the reasons why the sub output may appear to be low I thought I'd wait until I'd listened to a known reference before tweaking it.

A toss between REFERENCE and PREFERENCE.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 17, 2017 at 08:49 PM
The question is how do you define reference. Hehe!

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 18, 2017 at 11:04 PM
As doc surmised it's more preference but there are films that the critics class as reference quality audio & having played Terminator Salvation a few times I'll agree with them on that title  ;) >:D
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on May 18, 2017 at 11:20 PM
As doc surmised it's more preference but there are films that the critics class as reference quality audio & having played Terminator Salvation a few times I'll agree with them on that title  ;) >:D

At the end of the day you will be the one watching and listening. Do the Audyssey calibration for reference or starting point then adjust accordingly to your preference. Lucky after the calibration it already suits your taste.

Case in point, I find the center speaker lacking after calibration so I added 2 more clicks to suit my needs. A also added +4 to my sub levels after calibration. Others are untouched.  That's just me though.  (https://i.somethingawful.com/images/emot-dance.gif)
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: ricky on May 19, 2017 at 12:11 AM
Nothing beats manual calibration whether at 70db or 80db.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 19, 2017 at 01:13 AM
Well that sums it all!

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on May 19, 2017 at 07:35 AM
Nothing beats manual calibration whether at 70db or 80db.

Manual calibration is ok for your sweet spot using an SPL meter but using Audyssey is better for large theater rooms with more than one row of seats.

I haven't tried comparing the 2 methods though if it will come up with the same results.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 19, 2017 at 10:27 AM
Manual calibration is ok for your sweet spot using an SPL meter but using Audyssey is better for large theater rooms with more than one row of seats.

I haven't tried comparing the 2 methods though if it will come up with the same results.
For larger home theatre rooms I toy around with the time delay or speaker distance for manual calibration.

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: nerveblocker on May 19, 2017 at 12:56 PM
For larger home theatre rooms I toy around with the time delay or speaker distance for manual calibration.

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Is that good enough konsi even without audyssey or SPL meters sir?
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on May 19, 2017 at 03:15 PM
At the end of the day you will be the one watching and listening. Do the Audyssey calibration for reference or starting point then adjust accordingly to your preference. Lucky after the calibration it already suits your taste.

Case in point, I find the center speaker lacking after calibration so I added 2 more clicks to suit my needs. A also added +4 to my sub levels after calibration. Others are untouched.  That's just me though.  (https://i.somethingawful.com/images/emot-dance.gif)

As you say doc I'm the only one the calibration has to please & in the past I've always lifted the sub but never had to alter the center. The difference is I'm now in a dedicated HT room so conditions are not quite the same. I will probably end up lifting the center & sub but for the time being I'll leave it as it is so I can get used to the sound before I start tweaking. At the moment all my spare time is being taken up completing the house build. After 2 & a half years & precious little having been done from the punch list I'm slowly sorting it all out & hopefully by the end of the year all outstanding work will be complete. Then I will have time to tweak to my hearts content but at the moment it's watching a film or 2 with the family straight after evening meal & then off to bed.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 19, 2017 at 04:57 PM
Is that good enough konsi even without audyssey or SPL meters sir?
For me it is. Its also basically what the auto calibration will probably do, including additional  tweaks sa EQ.

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Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 02, 2019 at 03:32 PM
Hi guys,
I can't believe that my sabatical from the forum has been just over 2 years, time flies when you're having fun or not. I had to put everything on hold to complete the house, it has been a long haul & still not going to be completed for at least 6 months but that's another story.
I've done a little in the theater, finally got the aircon covered but the LED lighting along the front has failed, I think maybe the psu but it will have to wait until I can get to it.
My server is now up & running with all my CD's archived & slowly going through my DVD's. Found a few with what is commonly known as disc rot but not much of a problem caused.
A bit angry with the way Photobucket tried to basically blackmail users into buying storage plans. Me being me would rather pay extra somewhere else than deal with them so have downloaded all my pics & will re post them. I had a bit of a problem where all the pics I posted in this thread disappeared, having built a highish end gaming PC things went missing when I did the transfer. All seems to be OK now so business as usual from now on & once I've sorted out the pics will be a more frequent visitor to the forum.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 02, 2019 at 05:41 PM
OBR!!!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Chain on Jun 05, 2019 at 11:51 AM
hoping to see more of your pics again sir!
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 24, 2019 at 04:48 PM
OBR!!!
Hi Nelson, yes it's me, almost a blast from the past.
Still trying to make time to get to the forum as well as a lot of other things.
Wifey decided she wanted the front garden completely redone so in the middle of that now.
Away to Boracay for a 3 day rest tomorrow so hopefully will have some time when we get back.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jun 24, 2019 at 04:50 PM
hoping to see more of your pics again sir!
Thanks Chain, hopefully I can get the pics back on this post within the next week or 2.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 03, 2019 at 04:03 PM
Hopefully all the pics will be reposted over the next few weeks. Uploaded the 1st 31, there's just under 400 to do, re posted 4 pics in reply 246 so now I know what I'm doing. Once I've got the old pics re posted I'll give an update to the current situation.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Jul 31, 2019 at 06:23 PM
I have re posted all the photos on the 1st 11 pages, the website is running a bit slow so giving up for today, hopefully will complete over the next couple of days.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 05, 2019 at 03:25 PM
Hi guys, I was doing so well, got up to page 17 re posting photo's but it would appear that some of the pics I downloaded from Photobucket are missing, lost in cyberspace I presume. Checked my old PC, now the wife's & it would appear that the ones I want are still there. In attempting to transfer between PCs the wife's failed with a 'bad system config info' error. I tried all the suggestions I could find to no avail so was thinking of one of the hard drives failing. Fitted them to my PC 1 at a time & decided to do what I should have done a long time ago, transferred all the photos & music. Unfortunately as most of the pics were recovered from a previously erased drive they have lost their original names so a lot of sorting to do. The wife's PC is now up & running, I wan't bore you with the details but how I didn't tear my hair out I don't know. Now after a week I can start re posting & should be finished in a few days.
Then I'll be be able to update this thread.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 07, 2019 at 11:01 PM
All photos have now been re posted & over the next couple of days I will edit some of the posts.
I will do an update with pics before I start on my Audio thread.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: guido on Aug 08, 2019 at 03:03 PM
nice to see the pics again.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 13, 2019 at 03:41 PM
nice to see the pics again.
Thanks guido, it was a bit of a pain & somewhat frustrating but the thread is now back in business.
I've had to do a little job before I can get back to updating so I'll be another couple of days.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 23, 2019 at 02:53 PM
I have just edited reply #1194 on page 40 of this thread, ricky, you may wish to have a look.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 23, 2019 at 03:36 PM
Update :- 1st update was get the network sorted so I could put the NAS into use. The 5 port HT switch was moved to the HT room, router & 8 port gigabit switch moved to our bedroom then installed an Asus RT-AC88U in the control room. Things were getting a little complicated so decided that was the best way to go.

(https://i.imgur.com/AZNQZQI.jpg)

On top, Globe LTE modem, 1st shelf, netgear firewall, 2nd shelf RT-AC88U, bottom CCTV & printer.
Apologies for the pic being lop sided, I took it 4 times, looked OK in the viewfinder so either the camera has a problem or it's my eyes.
Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Aug 23, 2019 at 07:35 PM
I finally got the aircon covered & fitted black PVC blind grommets to the holes we drilled for administering the termite killer. I also made & fitted a DVD rack at the rear right, decided to keep the DVD's in the cooler & less humid climate of the HT room after finding a bit of disc rot. The blind grommets are noticable below the DVD rack.

Close up of the rack.

(https://i.imgur.com/IuDVU2p.jpg)

Showing the rack position.

(https://i.imgur.com/kFyGuPY.jpg)

The louvres covering the aircon.

(https://i.imgur.com/QT2Au0u.jpg)

Title: Re: Oldboyracers HT build
Post by: Oldboyracer on Sep 29, 2021 at 02:40 PM
Hi Guys,
My good intentions of returning to the forum didn't materialize, the last 2 years have been somewhat of a struggle but survive we have,
I hope everyone has come through this pandemic OK, my thoughts are with anyone who has been affected by it.
There was me thinking that in retirement life would be slow & easy, what a big mistake that was. The last 8 years have been hard work but I've enjoyed the ride & am now in a position give PinoyDVD some of my time.
Nothing has changed in the Home Theatre but the audio system is another story which is not for this post. I will update my audio thread in the next few days as I still haven't sorted out the photos.
Hoping everyone keeps in good health.