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Title: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on May 21, 2002 at 01:12 AM: hi all!

any thoughts on these speakers? was able to demo the Mission M72 (and the M71) at the HT. i liked the sound though the bass seemed lacking. considering that these are merely bookshelf speakers, am not too surprised though. would appreciate any feedback from owners of these models, or any Mission speaker for that matter. am choosing between the M72s and the B&w 303, or if my budget can stretch a bit, a little more high-end speakers, in the P15 range. my probable receiver is either the yamaha 530, onkyo 494 or the denon 1602.

thanks in advance.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JhunDV on May 21, 2002 at 12:50 PM: I'm currently using a pair of M72 in my setup connected to an Onkyo 494 receiver. I can say that I'm very satisfied with the performance of the M72, be it in movies or in music. At first, medyo parang bitin ang tunog but after 1 week of breaking-in, it started churning out beautiful sound that seems to get better everytime i listened. With regards to the bass, for me it's adequate maybe because of the small size of my room.

I also auditioned the B&W DM303 before i bought the M72. I didn't find much difference in sound but the M72 actually has a little more bass. I decided on the M72 because it's a little cheaper and it's also biwirable unlike the DM303.

I can say that my M72 paired with the Onkyo 494 is an adequate setup (love it especially in music), but i heard it paired with the Yamaha and it also sound great. And the Yamaha 530 has more power than the 494. But I think it's better for you to try it yourself auditioning the M72 together with your probable receivers and remember that what matters most is the quality of sound and power is secondary. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on May 21, 2002 at 05:50 PM: hi JhunDV!

Thanks for the input. Been looking at the specs of both the B&W DM303 and the Mission M72, the missions frequency response is 56hz-20khz, while for B&W it's at 72hz-20khz. If I understood my research correctly, this explains why the Mission's bass is better. Per Sound&Vision Buyer's Guide, Mission's 56hz lower limit enables it to reproduce a more powerful deep bass, as opposed to B&W's (higher) 72hz. Well, both manufacturers are reputable so I guess my ears will have to be my guide.

Did you already buy the center speakers?

My room is also small so I'm a bit hesitant to buy the floorstanders, I think the bookshelf speakers will do. I'm really interested in a receiver which will also do well for music, and not just HT.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cybermms on May 21, 2002 at 07:40 PM: Hi Tonedeaf,

M72's and M71's are rated 5 stars by What Hi Fi? in the U.K. To get good bass response, you have to position them at about 1 foot against the wall. They are rear ported that's why they need good positioning.

The M72 should compete well with B&W303 and they are about the same price range of between P11-12k.

If you have a bigger budget, you should go for Mission 780 (priced at about P21k). They have been rated better than B&W601/602 series 3 as well as equivalent models of JBL, Infinity and Accoustic Energy.

Please refer to the thread on Bookshelve speakers for additional info.

cybermms
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: hyperaudio on May 21, 2002 at 09:20 PM: tonedeaf,
the mission m-72's are really good speakers. but for a little more, you can get the m-73's and get the bass you can only get from floorstanders. get the onkyo 494's,
more powerful than the specs suggest, very good-
sounding on both ht and music and an award winner to boot (EISA home theater of the year).
the b&w 601 series 3 is another spkr to consider. you have to hear it to appreciate it. probably the best P15k+ spkrs on the market.
hyperaudio
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on May 21, 2002 at 09:49 PM: hyperaudio,

I was thinking of getting the M73s actually, just so I could have more bass. The way I understand it, the M73's specs is almost like the M72, except that it has better bass. Might save me from buying a sub, at least in the short term, especially as I don't have a large room. Am actually a bit worried about my neighbor's reactions if the sound gets too loud.

I was also able to hear the B&W 601 series 3, pero parang di ko masyado nagustuhan ang sound. Better bass than the M72, but the clarity (not being an audiophile, am not too sure of the correct terminology) isn't as good. However the B&W was brand new, barely broken in, so maybe that explains it. Ms. Diana Krall's "Let's Fall in Love" sounded a bit better on the Mission. Wouldn't the B&W 601 S3 or the M73 for that matter, require a more powerful receiver, instead of the entry level onkyo/denon/yamaha which i'm thinking of getting?

Cybermms,

I don't think I can afford the Mission 780 (much to my dismay :( ) I think I'll be happy with speakers in the P15T (or less) price range. But it has really enjoyed great reviews, maybe I'll ask Stuazon for a demo, so I can have a taste of what might be ;D if I had more money that is.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JhunDV on May 22, 2002 at 02:40 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on May 21, 2002 at 05:50 PM

Did you already buy the center speakers?

My room is also small so I'm a bit hesitant to buy the floorstanders, I think the bookshelf speakers will do. I'm really interested in a receiver which will also do well for music, and not just HT.

I still don't have the dough to buy the center and surrounds, but i'll definitely buy the Mission's center and the M70 for the surrounds. That is, if I can still be patient and not settle for Dai-ichi. :)

For the receiver, my Onkyo 494 really delivers when it comes to music. I hear the instruments very clearly but it's not bright. So if you want your music clear and warm, I really recommend the Onkyo. ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Sen.Almondski on May 22, 2002 at 03:05 PM: Quote from: hyperaudio on May 21, 2002 at 09:20 PM

.....get the onkyo 494's,
more powerful than the specs suggest, very good-
sounding on both ht and music and an award winner to boot (EISA home theater of the year).

Thanks for the info, hyperaudio, I checked out the site http://www.eisa-awards.org. To fellow ONKYO TX-DS494 owner, CONGRATULATIONS! :) ;)

almondski

Note: Mods, Pls move this reply to any ONKYO threads if necessary. Thxs!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on May 22, 2002 at 06:55 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on May 21, 2002 at 09:49 PM

hyperaudio,

I was thinking of getting the M73s actually, just so I could have more bass. The way I understand it, the M73's specs is almost like the M72, except that it has better bass. Might save me from buying a sub, at least in the short term, especially as I don't have a large room. Am actually a bit worried about my neighbor's reactions if the sound gets too loud.

I have the M74 (went for this instead of the M73 since my room is a little large); its bass was good enough until I finally bought a sub. For stereo listening, I prefer this over the old B&W 601 S2. It also works well with my 1801 AVR.

Quote from: tonedeaf on May 21, 2002 at 09:49 PM

I was also able to hear the B&W 601 series 3, pero parang di ko masyado nagustuhan ang sound. Better bass than the M72, but the clarity (not being an audiophile, am not too sure of the correct terminology) isn't as good. However the B&W was brand new, barely broken in, so maybe that explains it. Ms. Diana Krall's "Let's Fall in Love" sounded a bit better on the Mission. Wouldn't the B&W 601 S3 or the M73 for that matter, require a more powerful receiver, instead of the entry level onkyo/denon/yamaha which i'm thinking of getting?

Hmm, during the last EB at The Home Theater, some guys mentioned they also preferred the M72 over the 601S3. The 601S3 we listened to was set up right out of the box, so maybe it needs more burn-in.

GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cybermms on May 22, 2002 at 09:00 PM: JhunDV,

I recently auditioned the M70 surround and they're pretty good. In fact, they sounded better than the more expensive dipole model (I forgot the model no.) of Mission's M series.

Check this out vs. the Daichi model.

The M 70's are retailing at P7.5k

cybermms
Quote from: JhunDV on May 22, 2002 at 02:40 PM

Quote from: tonedeaf on May 21, 2002 at 05:50 PM

Did you already buy the center speakers?

My room is also small so I'm a bit hesitant to buy the floorstanders, I think the bookshelf speakers will do. I'm really interested in a receiver which will also do well for music, and not just HT.

I still don't have the dough to buy the center and surrounds, but i'll definitely buy the Mission's center and the M70 for the surrounds. That is, if I can still be patient and not settle for Dai-ichi. :)

For the receiver, my Onkyo 494 really delivers when it comes to music. I hear the instruments very clearly but it's not bright. So if you want your music clear and warm, I really recommend the Onkyo. ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cybermms on May 22, 2002 at 09:10 PM: tonedeaf,

Your choice of the M series will depend on the power output of your amp/receiver. If your choice is between the M72 and M73, these models perform better with a high power output amp. I don't think you can get away with an active sub if your setting up a HT system unless you go to the M74 floorstander.

I auditioned the M72 with a 35 watt Creek amp and they performed well. But their potential really came out when I tested them with a 200 watt/channel Rotel 1080 power amp.

I am not very impressed with the M73 as the difference in the bass output vs. M72 is not outstanding. In fact, I would rate Wharfedale's Diamond 8.3 as a better performer.

If your going for Onkyo 494, try the M71 first, then the M72. Let your ears decide after the audition.

cybermms
Quote from: tonedeaf on May 21, 2002 at 09:49 PM
hyperaudio,

I was thinking of getting the M73s actually, just so I could have more bass. The way I understand it, the M73's specs is almost like the M72, except that it has better bass. Might save me from buying a sub
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: corrsty on May 23, 2002 at 12:51 PM: Dudes,

Do we have have the Mission M50 series in the Philippinnes? I believe this series replaces the 77 series.

Thanks.

corrsty
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JhunDV on May 23, 2002 at 02:56 PM: Quote from: cybermms on May 22, 2002 at 09:00 PM

JhunDV,

I recently auditioned the M70 surround and they're pretty good. In fact, they sounded better than the more expensive dipole model (I forgot the model no.) of Mission's M series.

Check this out vs. the Daichi model.

The M 70's are retailing at P7.5k

cybermms

Thanks for the info. Actually, the M70 is really better than the dipole specially when using DPL2 in music. Now I just have to be more patient... :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jay_cee_em on May 27, 2002 at 06:40 PM: I have also recently acquired a pair of M73 floorstanders and an M7c1 center speaker. They sound really great with my Denon 1602.

I'm considering between the M70s and the Mission dipoles as surrounds. Right now, I use two of my Energy Take 5 satellites as surrounds. Maybe in a few more weeks.... :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on May 27, 2002 at 10:48 PM: Hmm... the mission seems to be compatible with onkyo 494 and the denon 1602. any yamaha users out there?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jay_cee_em on May 28, 2002 at 02:13 PM: Sent you a PM tonedeaf :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cybermms on May 28, 2002 at 08:25 PM: Corrsty,

It is the 78 series which replaced the 77. Don't think the M50 is here. There is a thread about the 780 and 782 somewhere. Check it out.

cybermms
Quote from: corrsty on May 23, 2002 at 12:51 PM

Dudes,

Do we have have the Mission M50 series in the Philippinnes? I believe this series replaces the 77 series.

Thanks.

corrsty
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on May 28, 2002 at 10:43 PM: Hmm, I think corrsty is right. The 78 series are priced higher than the 77 series, and they've been co-existing for quite some time now. Actually, the 78 series replaced the higher end 75 series (just as the m70 series replaced the 700 series).

With the coming of the the m50 series, the mission uk website has indicated that the 77 series is now available only on a limited basis (paano ba yan, pareng compaq, yung 773e e mawawala na... ;)).

GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on May 28, 2002 at 11:45 PM: hi gaol,

what receiver do you use with your M74s? (i think you mentioned 1801 avr in a previous post, denon ba yun?)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on May 29, 2002 at 07:41 AM: tonedeaf,

yes my avr is the denon 1801, it's been replaced by the 1802 which as DPL2 and slightly higher power ratings. ;D

GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Sen.Almondski on Jun 17, 2002 at 06:19 PM: Quote from: Jong on May 27, 2002 at 06:40 PM

I have also recently acquired a pair of M73 floorstanders and an M7c1 center speaker. They sound really great with my Denon 1602.

I'm considering between the M70s and the Mission dipoles as surrounds. Right now, I use two of my Energy Take 5 satellites as surrounds. Maybe in a few more weeks.... :)

Hi Jong & Hyperaudio,

Anybody can give me the idea how much the cost of M73 floorstanders in the Philippines? Im planning to upgrade to Mission and use my Jamo front shelf speakers as surrounds.

Thanks!

:) almondski
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Sen.Almondski on Jun 17, 2002 at 11:02 PM: Quote
[quote author=almondski
Hi Jong & Hyperaudio,

Anybody can give me the idea how much the cost of M73 floorstanders in the Philippines? Im planning to upgrade to Mission and use my Jamo front shelf speakers as surrounds.

Thanks!

:) almondski

Hyperaudio,

i recieved your PM, Thanks a lot!

The price of M70 series has a big diffrence with M78 series. Is that MDF cabinet of M70 series compares to the Real wood ( rosewood, black as ) of M78 is the big factor in price diffrence? What do you think of finish MDF cabinet guys, compare to real wood?

:) almondski
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: hyperaudio on Jun 18, 2002 at 08:20 AM: actually, the mission m70 series replaced the 700
and the 78 series replaced the 75 series. it's not only the wood that made the difference although it' s a big factor. the tweeters are different, the woofers are different and so with the crossover design and parts quality. it should be noted that the 77 series is in between the m70 and 78, the former also replaced by a new series.
the mission sound quality is consistent (i.e., the higher the series, the better the sound; consequently pricier).
but the m70 series are definitely best buy. they remarkably do things the more expensive models can
do. they offer clarity, a spacious soundstage, unbelievable bass (for the m72's), luscious midrange
and dynamics at so low prices (can even say they're underpriced). a cheapskate's dream! gives us cheapskates an alibi also. ok, ok i'm a mission dealer but this is my audiophile voice speaking.
mission m72 evaluation equipment used:
amplifier/ receiver: dyna pas 3/st70 s2 or onkyo 494
speaker cable: ixos 6006
stands: lovan affiniti 2400
cd player: rotel rcd-02 or rcd-1070
dvd player: pioneer dv-533k or onkyo dv-s555
digital cable: ixos 106 optical or ixos 105 coaxial
cd-preamp interconnect: ixos gamma audition II
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cybermms on Jun 19, 2002 at 09:02 PM: The M70 series is really new where M stands for "assembled in Malaysia" . M70 should not be confused with the 700 series. The M series sound great and are priced reasonably well.

The 77 and 78 series are original U.K., thus, more expensive. Obviously, the 78's replaced the 77's. The U.K. models are the pricier ones.

cybermms
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: rtsy on Jun 20, 2002 at 10:42 AM: The m71 got a rave review, surprisingly from a high end pundit, Stereophile in a recent issue.

I heard the m72 at Hyperaudio's. It's decent, for the price, at whatever Rene threw at it be it XRCD2s or vinyl. It doesn't have the brightness/harshness typically associated with entry-level loudspeakers. The mids are to my warm liking. I find the bass a tad lean but my point of reference would be a pair of Dynaudio Audience 40s so that' ain't a fair comparison.

I posted listening notes on the 782 with Arcam and Musical Fidelity integrateds and Arcam and Rotel CDP as source at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pinoydiophiles/message/153 Check it out and give your comments, please.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: corrsty on Jun 20, 2002 at 12:02 PM: cybermms,

according to the April or May Stereophile, the 77 series is being replaced by the M50 series. There is a picture of the M50 series on that issue and they look great.

corrsty
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: weel_boor on Jun 21, 2002 at 10:07 PM: Its OK i was using it 5 yrs ago, but it will be better if you will add one Sunfire true Subwoofer (pls check www.sunfire.com) or you can use a more powerful sorround speaker depends on budget. But still needs a sunfire though
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Jun 22, 2002 at 10:55 AM: New Mission developments I've come across reading the latest WHF?-S&V issue:

New m7c2 center speaker: Mission has come up with a new center speaker for the m70 series, the m7c2. Unlike the thin and wide and plastic-encased m7c1, the m7c2 is a larger, more conventional box with larger drivers, which WHF says adds "considerable focus to the front soundfield." In other words, dialog is clearer, a problem I had with the m7c1.

m51 gets only 3-stars: What Hifi is dissappointed with the new m51 speakers still preferring the similarly-priced award-winning 780 speakers over this. That is significant, if only for the fact, that WHF almost always rates Mission speakers (and their other favorites, incl. B&W) very highly (except I think for the original mission 773, which led to the revised version the 773e). In fact, they admit, they forced themselves to test the speakers much much more than they usually do because of their findings.

According to them, the m51s are very exciting speakers but sound like you were listening to a system with all tone controls (bass, treble settings) set to maximum--thus eventually fatiguing. Hmm, I guess we can expect revised m51e speakers in the future....

GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Jun 22, 2002 at 06:36 PM: hi,

just purchased the M73 (fronts) and the M7C1 center (Gaol, didn't realize that it had some problems but thanks for the heads up) , to go with my Onkyo 494. any tips on how to optimize performance? gaano katagal ang break-in? and what exactly should i do to "break-in" a speaker?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Jun 23, 2002 at 11:45 AM: Yo tonedeaf,

I hope you don't have the same problems with the m7c1 (a lot of people are happy with theirs). It's possible that my problem with the m7c1 is a result of the acoustics of my bedroom, its high placement on top of a large tv, and the difficulty of angling the speaker towards my listening position, the sound of the aircon, etc. When I replaced it with the 77c1, my problems were solved so my hunch is that the more expensive m7c2 will also sound better (in my bedroom).

As to speaker break-in, I think there are existing threads on this. Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about it, since the speakers will "break-in" over time and usage (and there are no adverse effects if you don't follow the "strict process of breaking-in speakers", you will just notice your setup sounding better after a while). Some advise not to set the volume too high in the first few weeks; you may want to do that.

Cheers!
GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Jun 23, 2002 at 11:58 AM: gaol,

thanks. watched 2 movies na in my new set-up. mukhang no problem so far with the m7c1. excited na ako na bumili ng surround speakers and subwoofer. para 5.1 na talaga, and i can enjoy all the features of my receiver.

i read the thread re "breaking-in" speakers already. per everyone's advise, will keep volume down initially. though i doubt if i can jack it up (kawawa naman neighbors).
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: allenars on Jun 25, 2002 at 03:25 AM: hi gaol,

i need your advise. im planning to buy a mission speakers complete set with front surround and center. ano kaya ang series na maganda para sa set up ko?

yamaha rxv-2200 naman ang plano kong bilhin. maganda kaya itong setup?

advise naman. thanks!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: luther on Jun 25, 2002 at 09:10 AM: allenars:

dude, how much ung yamaha rxv-2200? saan ka pala tumitiingin? thanks!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Jun 25, 2002 at 10:12 PM: luther,

if you're interested in yamaha receivers and mission speakers, i suggest you see Mr. Sonny Tuazon of Home Theater. got my HT stuff from him.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: allenars on Jun 26, 2002 at 02:29 AM: yes im planning to go to sonny sa first week ng july during may vacation kasi dito pa ako sa riyadh.

anyway, tumingin ako ng rxv-2200 sa may parksquare nakalimutan ko na but the rxv-1200 nasa 30T plus yun .

anyway, wala ba sa inyo na pwede ako tulungan para ma compare ko itong rxv-2200 sa onkyo or other brand and difference?

for mission may M5 series na ba sa pinas?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: luther on Jun 26, 2002 at 08:08 AM: allenars, based from my internet research, medyo magkatapat ang denon 2802 with the yamaha 2200. around 40k ang mga yan right?

can anybody post in here the prices of the mission speakers? e2 pa lang nakuha ko so far from this thread.

m70 - 7.5k
m72 - 11k
m780 - 21k

ilang watts pala ang kaya nitong i handle? sa website kasi walang nakalagay dun! >:(
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Jun 26, 2002 at 08:47 AM: Quote from: allenars on Jun 25, 2002 at 03:25 AM
hi gaol,

i need your advise. im planning to buy a mission speakers complete set with front surround and center. ano kaya ang series na maganda para sa set up ko?

yamaha rxv-2200 naman ang plano kong bilhin. maganda kaya itong setup?

advise naman. thanks!

allenars,

sorry, ngayon ko lang nakita post mo.

anyway, hindi ako familiar sa yamaha rxv-2200 but mission offers several ht speaker packages from budget to high end:

For budget, you can go for m72, m73 or m74 for fronts, m7c1 (or better yet m7c2 if available here already) for center, and m7ds (bi-polar, recommended for ht) for surrounds (you can also get m70 or m71, better for mult-channel music). This should go well with receivers in the P20K-P30, or even slightly higher range.

For mid-level, you can go with the multi-award-winning cinema 7, consisting of 773e for fronts, 77c1 for center and 77ds for surrounds. Ah yes, this is set to be replaced by the m50 series.

For high-end, there's the 78 series: 782 (or 783) for front, 78c for center, and 78ds for surrounds.

You can check their specs at the mission site (www.mission.co.uk). Luther, nandoon din yung recommended watts for each speaker.

GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: hyperaudio on Jun 26, 2002 at 12:12 PM: to whom it may concern:
1. prices of mission spkrs:
m72 P9,900
m71 P7,500
m70 P6,600
2. for those not happy with the m7c1, i have two sealed
units (one cherrywood, one black) 77c1 which i'm
selling at a bargain: P11,000 (reg P14,300). also still
have one sealed mission 772 at P15,000 only (reg
P20,160).
3. onkyo tx-sr600 now available. 6.1 channel for only
P29,000 srp.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Jun 26, 2002 at 12:47 PM: hyperaudio aka Mr. RR, ;D

would you happen to have another 773e selling at a bargain price (kahit na second-hand)? ;)

GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: hyperaudio on Jun 26, 2002 at 12:50 PM: hi gaol,
will keep you posted. might be able to get one.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: luther on Jun 26, 2002 at 04:23 PM: Quote from: hyperaudio on Jun 26, 2002 at 12:12 PM
to whom it may concern:
1. prices of mission spkrs:
m72 P9,900
m71 P7,500
m70 P6,600
2. for those not happy with the m7c1, i have two sealed
units (one cherrywood, one black) 77c1 which i'm
selling at a bargain: P11,000 (reg P14,300). also still
have one sealed mission 772 at P15,000 only (reg
P20,160).
3. onkyo tx-sr600 now available. 6.1 channel for only
P29,000 srp.

can i do a soft reserve for the onkyo tx-sr600, 77c1, 772? (wanna hear it first before fully reserving it) ok na ba ito sa initial setup ng ht? or should i also get a sub with it? medyo tight ang budget for now coz i want a 54" rptv to go with it.

sir hyperaudio, can u email me offboard at [email protected] on where i can contact you. thanks.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Jun 27, 2002 at 08:54 AM: Quote from: hyperaudio on Jun 26, 2002 at 12:50 PM

hi gaol,
will keep you posted. might be able to get one.

Thanks! ;D

GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: hyperaudio on Jun 27, 2002 at 09:28 AM: luther,
i don't have demo units of the mission 77c1 and 772 as they're all sealed. rest assured that they're excellent speakers for an initial ht set-up. actually they all got 5-star and best buy ratings from what hi-fi & hi-fi choice and other major publications. they're excellent for music also. i do have the mission m72, m7c1 and m7ds on demo driven by the new onkyo 6.1 channel tx-sr600 (another knockout receiver from onkyo!).
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: luther on Jun 27, 2002 at 10:09 AM: hyperaudio,

i'll drop by your shop at around 7pm (depends on the traffic) to audition out the m7's...

kung ma impress naman me dun e cguro no prob na with the 77 series... hehehe...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Jun 27, 2002 at 01:42 PM: Hyperaudio,

I've heard the mission 773e, but I haven't heard the mission 772s. How are they compared with the 773e? And will they serve as front speakers of an ht setup (with a dynaquest sub) as well as the 773e, together with the 77c1 center?

GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: luther on Jun 27, 2002 at 03:13 PM: IMHO, no comparison cguro ang 772 (bookshelf) sa 773e (free standing).

hmmm, bigla tuloy me nag isip kung 773e ang kunin ko... hehehe...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: isak0411 on Jun 28, 2002 at 06:15 AM: hyperaudio
saan place mo m interested sa mission. can u call/txt. me
@ 09174368764..... ano ba match na mission sa onkyo 494? (main)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: luther on Jun 28, 2002 at 08:28 AM: i auditioned last night the m70 series speakers paired with the onkyo tx sr600, and it really rocks!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Hamann on Jul 04, 2002 at 05:04 PM: I've listened to a number of Mission speakers for a while now. I've had JM lab Chorus 705's and PSB Alphas before. I started with the M series, which IMO, has probably one of the best price vs performance factors in any speaker brands available in the market. I've had a couple of the M series speakers before settling to the full-range 705A's, a 75C and 77ds for surrounds.

My brother has old B&W speakers (304's I think) and he's about to buy Missions too. These speakers simply sound so much more open and detailed than a lot others (for their price of course).

I'm sure the M series will have a strong following in time ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jul 08, 2002 at 01:58 PM: @luther do you know how much is m70 speakers? then ano kaya magandang match na cnter speakers sa m70?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: luther on Jul 08, 2002 at 05:08 PM: dexter, go for the m72 instead... mukhang mas maganda... :) around 10k ung m72 while the m70 is around 7k. may centers rin yang ka pair... m7c1, around 9k i think... then for the surrounds m7ds!

yan ang nakita kong setup sa place ni hyperaudio... onkyo sr-600 ang gamit na receiver. ganda sobra! (wala ba extra discount hyperaudio? hehehe...)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jul 09, 2002 at 08:03 AM: thanks luther....i myt get muna m72 yun lang ang nasa budget ko..he..he..This is i guess what you call HT bug...you always look forward to go home para maka panood sa HT Set up mo..he..he
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: luther on Jul 09, 2002 at 08:15 AM: ako nga na eexcited na sa upcoming purchase ko! hehehe... first time kong mag HT setup kc... dami research! hehehe... halos araw araw akong login d2 para magbasa ng articles...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jul 09, 2002 at 09:09 AM: luther ano set up mo?....ako naka set up na ako nung ma discover ko tong pinoydvd....kaya sa upgrade na lang ako nagtatanong..pero given the chance at budget baka nag higher model din ako ng yamaha o kaya other brands of receiver...kasi ang alam ko lang nun na top of the line yamaha
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: luther on Jul 09, 2002 at 09:50 AM: ala me na setup! hehehe... 14" na goldstar tv pa lang... mwehehehe...

planning to get a 43" toshiba rptv, for now un pa lang ang definite.

ung mission 77 series speakers ang isa kong target, am also looking into jbl and infinity, d ko pa naririnig and na cacanvass so tingnan ko rin muna.

baka onkyo 6.1 receiver ang kunin ko. rotel ata ung top of the line na receivers.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jul 09, 2002 at 10:10 AM: good luck....sarap din sana mag upgrade kung maluwag ang budget...kaso daming gastos
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: silhouette on Jul 12, 2002 at 02:43 PM: Hyperaudio,

Sent you PM!

Thanks!
Silhouette
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: notaku on Jul 14, 2002 at 09:01 PM: what can Mission 782 owners say about their babies? i was at DCM to get this musical fidelity amp, went through all of the mission speakers present (m72, m73, 773) until i hit on the 782's. wow.

i immediately hit the internet looking for every review on the 782s, was surprised to hear warnings about limp dynamics, no transparency, inefficient...what's going on?

hooked up to the mf amp + rotel cdp & playing santana, dusty springfield, world music, i heard exactly the opposite of what those "reviewers" kept saying.

i bought the mf amp, now i'm wondering what long-term owners have learned 'bout their 782s.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: luther on Jul 19, 2002 at 09:43 AM: Quote from: takumi_fujiwara on Jul 19, 2002 at 03:36 AM

hyperaudio,
quote mo naman ako ng set ng m70 series. M73, M70, M7c1.
San yung shop mo?

thanks!

his number is 09179761009
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Jick on Jul 20, 2002 at 06:11 PM: Quote from: takumi_fujiwara on Jul 19, 2002 at 03:36 AM

Compare nyo sa B&W DM 303 yung M73. Ano mas maganda? Ok din kaya sa rxv-430 tong mga mission
speakers?

I'm planning to buy a new set of spkers ksi. Dalawa lang yung pinagpipilian ko B&W and Mission.

hyperaudio,
quote mo naman ako ng set ng m70 series. M73, M70, M7c1.
San yung shop mo?

thanks!

Let me chime in. I have no experience with the m73 but I did hear the m72 (same woofer size but bookshelf) and the DM 303. I found the M72 to be too sibilant (meaning exagerrated "ssssss" in the voices), and the bass was too boomy and out of control. The DM 303's were detailed and crisp but much less sibilant then the m72s. The DM 303's were smoother sounding but the bass is not as deep as the Mission but more more clean and controlled. If music playback is a top priority in your system, I would recommend the DM 303s. If you plan to integrate a sub in your system, I also recommend the DM 303s. But if you don't plan to integrate a sub and if you don't care about music playback at all, go for the Missions - the bommy character and deeper bass will give more scale to movie explosions, and it's sibilant character will give some clarity to the sound (although it is an artificial kind of quality).

By the way, I did these comparisons using a Pioneer DV533K and a NAD C340 Integrated Amplifier. You mileage may vary if you are using different gear.

Jovi
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Aug 23, 2002 at 12:59 AM: Bringing this up for new members. Thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Skabyol on Aug 26, 2002 at 07:29 PM: Tanong ko na din dito..
Anong mas magandang surround speakers?
M70 or M7ds? kung pareho lang an presyo..alin ang mas maganda piliin?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Jick on Aug 26, 2002 at 08:17 PM: Quote from: Skabyol on Aug 26, 2002 at 07:29 PM
Tanong ko na din dito..
Anong mas magandang surround speakers?
M70 or M7ds? kung pareho lang an presyo..alin ang mas maganda piliin?

I think the M7ds are dipole speakers, while the m70 is direct radiating. I suggest you go to ecoustics.com and then go to home theater and also to speakers. Then select articles, you will find a lot of useful information, also comparing dipole and direct radiating. Both have thier pros and cons. Hope this helps.

Jovi
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Skabyol on Aug 27, 2002 at 01:39 PM: Hi Jick,
Thanks for the info...
from what i've read in other threads..dipoles surround spkrs are suppose to be good for movies sound effects..while direct radiating surround spkrs are better when listening to SACD and Audio DVD.

meron ka palang NAD C340. Oks ba? Meron kasing in-auction na C340 dito? First time ko lang kasi ma consider na bumili ng stereo amp...Papano bang sabay makakabit ang AV receiver at stereo amp sa isang speaker?

salamat ulit,
Skabyol
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Jick on Aug 27, 2002 at 08:35 PM: Quote from: Skabyol on Aug 27, 2002 at 01:39 PM
Hi Jick,
Thanks for the info...
from what i've read in other threads..dipoles surround spkrs are suppose to be good for movies sound effects..while direct radiating surround spkrs are better when listening to SACD and Audio DVD.

meron ka palang NAD C340. Oks ba? Meron kasing in-auction na C340 dito? First time ko lang kasi ma consider na bumili ng stereo amp...Papano bang sabay makakabit ang AV receiver at stereo amp sa isang speaker?

salamat ulit,
Skabyol

I haven't set up my system yet, it will have to wait until October. The NAD C340 beats the Yamaha RXV430 hands down for two channel music. If you look at the buynsell portion, I put up the C340 for sale but changed my mind when I heard the dramatic differences in musical presentation.

When I setup, my plan is connect the digital out of the DVD player to my reciever for 5.1 music.

Then I will connect the analogue outs of the DVD player to the NAD C340, and use a different pair of speakers for that. This will be for two-channel. An upgrade down the line would probably be a DAC for my DVD player. So I'll just have one source driving HT and Audio. Well, that's my plan.

Where did you see the C340 for auction?

Jovi
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Skabyol on Aug 28, 2002 at 12:52 AM: Jick,

check mo dito...
http://www.red-dots.com/index_e.php
then do a search for NAD C340. Latest bid is HK$653. Yung auction site na yan dito sa hk.

Siguro...bibilhin ko muna yung speakers ko...bago ako mag isip ng stereo amp...mukhang okay naman sa music yung marantz receiver ko.

Malamang na mabili ko yung M73,M70 at M7c1. Though sabi mo nga mas maganda yung B&W303. Naka sale kasi yung mission speakers isang set.

Skabyol
Title: Need help
Post by: dazed on Sep 03, 2002 at 09:51 AM: just wondering if any of the mission experts can help me out. am using a pair of small mission bookshelfs for surround. they're old but sound fine, and got them for cheap. only problem is, i don't know the model number, and it's not written on the speakers. searched audioreview and the mission site, but the models may be too old and aren't listed anymore. any ideas?

(http://www.ruffy.org/temp/mission1.jpg) (http://www.ruffy.org/temp/mission2.jpg) (http://www.ruffy.org/temp/mission3.jpg)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Sep 03, 2002 at 03:31 PM: Quote from: Skabyol on Aug 27, 2002 at 01:39 PM

from what i've read in other threads..dipoles surround spkrs are suppose to be good for movies sound effects..while direct radiating surround spkrs are better when listening to SACD and Audio DVD.

skabyol, this is also what I've read. To be more specific, dipoles are better for producing diffuse sound, for ambient surrounding you. Direct radiating surrounds are better for multi-channel music because you can better pinpoint where the sound is coming from.

In my case, I chose the m7ds since I use them more for movies than multi-channel music (I prefer stereo only for music).

At any rate, the m7ds are around P4-5K more expensive (because of the dual speakers and the technology) than the m70, which can be a major consideration if budget is very important.

Cheers
GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: notaku on Sep 03, 2002 at 06:50 PM: hey dazed_in_hk,

eureka!

http://www.adelcom.net/Denon-Home-PersonalComponent%20Systems.htm (http://www.adelcom.net/Denon-Home-PersonalComponent%20Systems.htm)

close enough? ???
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Jick on Sep 03, 2002 at 09:53 PM: Just to let everyone know, Mission has replaced their M71 with the new M71i. It looks virtually identical to the original but it has been tweaked. A glowing review was in the October WhatHiFi.

Jovi
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dazed on Sep 04, 2002 at 10:43 AM: Quote from: notaku on Sep 03, 2002 at 06:50 PM
hey dazed_in_hk,

eureka!

http://www.adelcom.net/Denon-Home-PersonalComponent%20Systems.htm (http://www.adelcom.net/Denon-Home-PersonalComponent%20Systems.htm)

hi notaku! sakto! mission 731i pala, predecessor of the current m71 (or m71i na)... thanks!
close enough? ???
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Sep 05, 2002 at 07:41 AM: I'm using Yamaha RXV800 receiver to drive the Mission M7C2 center, M74 front and M72 rear, and to complement this set-up in movies, i matched it with Yamaha SW160 sub. I used IXOS 6006 Gamma Geometry speaker wire and IXOS 104 for all the analog interconnects and TEAC optical cable. I also use Musical Fidelity X10-D and X-Link, hooked on Pioneer DV515.

The result of this set-up is somewhat a great match to begin with. The midband strength the Mission is very well known for is greatly complimented by the clarity and huge solid power output of the Yamaha Top-Art series. I am thinking of disposing the sub though it is still quite new because of the deep bass i am very much contented with the M74. M7C2 is so far the best center i ever heard in its price and class. It has the clarity that the M7C1 lacked in the past; it has huge and wide sound; powerful and solid. M72 as a rear is alright with me instead of going dipole because i go for musical dvds, dvd-audio and dts cd. I find dipole great for movies because of its diffuse effects but i find the M72 more suitable to music.

Some says that Mission is a bright-sounding gear, but I believe it depends on the speaker wire you use and the room accoustic character.

So, for those who wanted to pair Mission M70 series with Yamaha, don't be afraid, it's a perfect match of clarity and pristine power!

Good luck!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: hyperaudio on Sep 05, 2002 at 08:18 AM: missions are really right on the money. with the right cables they can make sweet music with either the onkyo, yamaha, denon, h/k and even with the expensive rotel. my favorite in that series is still the m72; sweet & extended highs, luscious midrange and unbelievable bass for the price.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: notaku on Sep 05, 2002 at 11:42 PM: Quote from: hyperaudio on Sep 05, 2002 at 08:18 AM
missions are really right on the money. with the right cables they can make sweet music

Master :o -I mean, Hyperaudio, what does Your Tubeness mean by the "right cables"?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Skabyol on Sep 06, 2002 at 01:56 PM: Sir Hyperaudio,
Sent you a PM.

Skabyol
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Sep 06, 2002 at 02:41 PM: hyperaudio is very right. the things that most people overlooked in the AV set-up are the ones that are with extreme importance, the speaker wire and interconnect cables. you may have the most expensive gear in the world but with the kind of wire/cable you use may not come out a finest sounding equipment.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: silhouette on Sep 06, 2002 at 05:58 PM: Im planning to get a SUB next month for my set up, budget would be P15k below. Any suggestion as what Sub to partner an M70 set of speakers? Set up is:M73 front; M7C1 center & M70 rear!

thanks!
Silhouette
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on Sep 07, 2002 at 08:05 AM: Hey guys, I just got the m72 from hyperaudio yesterday as an upgrade to my 4 months old yamaha np320, haaay!. Im now looking for m7c2 center speaker to match it, where can I buy this model and how much kaya? thanks sa inyong lahat.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Skabyol on Sep 07, 2002 at 10:08 AM: Congrats Titanium.

Hopefully, i will join you guys as proud owners of the mission m70 series soon.

Silhouette,
Kailangan ba ng tulong ng sub yung M73? Anong receiver ang gamit mo?

Meron akong dalawang tanong:
1. Same question as Silhouette ano ba ang bagay na sub for M73,M7c1,M70 setup?

2. Nde ko kasi muna bibilhin yung M7c2. M7c1 muna..tapos pag may budget na bibili ako ng M7C2 tapos gagawin kong rear center yung M7c1. Is this a good idea?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Sep 07, 2002 at 10:21 AM: Quote from: silhouette on Sep 06, 2002 at 05:58 PM
Im planning to get a SUB next month for my set up, budget would be P15k below. Any suggestion as what Sub to partner an M70 set of speakers? Set up is:M73 front; M7C1 center & M70 rear!
thanks!
Silhouette

try dynaquest dq-12. malakas nang humataw sa bass yung m74 ko kahit nung wala akong sub, pero nung dinadagdag ko eto sa setup ko, hanep ang bass (for the price).

my ht setup: m74 fronts, 77c1 center, m7ds surrounds

Quote
Hey guys, I just got the m72 from hyperaudio yesterday as an upgrade to my 4 months old yamaha np320, haaay!. Im now looking for m7c2 center speaker to match it, where can I buy this model and how much kaya? thanks sa inyong lahat.

When I visited Melvin at DCM a few weeks ago, he said he had a shipment arriving in September with m7c2s. He said it was going to be around P4K-P5K more expensive than the m7c1s.

GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on Sep 07, 2002 at 10:53 AM: Thanks Gaol,

but what and where is DCM? Sorry, di ako familiar with the abbreviation, how much ba m7c1 so that Ill just add 4 or 5 k more and estimate the price.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Skabyol on Sep 07, 2002 at 12:39 PM: Hi Gaol,
Can you suggest a good downfiring sub?

thanks.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Sep 07, 2002 at 11:06 PM: Quote from: Titanium on Sep 07, 2002 at 10:53 AM
Thanks Gaol,

but what and where is DCM? Sorry, di ako familiar with the abbreviation, how much ba m7c1 so that Ill just add 4 or 5 k more and estimate the price.

DCM Audio is located at 16th Avenue, Cubao and Melvin Chua is the owner. They have a very good demo room there and they sell mostly Mission speakers, Musical Fidelity and Arcam components plus some consigned and pre-owned items.

With a good discount, you can probably get the m7c1 between P6-7K, so the m7c2 will probably sell for around P10K. If you can afford it, go for the m7c2.

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Hi Gaol,
Can you suggest a good downfiring sub? thanks.

skabyol, wala akong maisip ng down-firing sub at the budget/entry-level, ah wait, meron na pala -- yung wharfedale powercube A series. check out the budget sub thread.

Cheers!
GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: pedor2 on Sep 08, 2002 at 06:46 AM: a friend of mine was able to buy a Jamo subwoofer with an 8inch downfiring driver at 5th ave. ParkSquare1. You might want to check it out.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: hyperaudio on Sep 08, 2002 at 09:37 AM: The M7C2 is now available and on stock for P11700.
Also M74i P21600 M73i P14800 M7C1i P7560.
Unfortunately, other M70 series models had slight price increases (see my post at assorted buy & sell).
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on Sep 09, 2002 at 09:09 AM: Uy, tumaas na pala m70 series, good that I got the m72 from Hyperaudio bago tumaas, he he.. Ive been looking for the m7c2 center speaker, so may stock na. I will definitely get one. The m72's are really great, ang ganda ng bass kahit di ko na gamitin ang sub ko okey lang tunog. Im still breaking in my speakers at wala pang speaker stand but definitely a lot better than my previous speakers.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: silhouette on Sep 09, 2002 at 02:07 PM: Thanks gaol, will check on that!

Silhouette
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Skabyol on Sep 10, 2002 at 12:39 PM: Is the Mission M73 in the same league as B&W601 s3 in terms of sound quality?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: audio_tyro on Sep 10, 2002 at 05:51 PM: Quote from: Skabyol on Sep 07, 2002 at 12:39 PM
Hi Gaol,
Can you suggest a good downfiring sub?

thanks.

I can only think of one, REL Quake. Call the local distributor - Ferdie, at 0917-321-2079. If you want to see what it gorgeously look like, click on this link:
http://www.rel.net

... scroll down and see the beautiful subwoofer in cherry finish. It sounds as good as it looks.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: baker on Sep 11, 2002 at 01:34 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on May 21, 2002 at 09:49 PM
hyperaudio,

I was thinking of getting the M73s actually, just so I could have more bass. The way I understand it, the M73's specs is almost like the M72, except that it has better bass. Might save me from buying a sub, at least in the short term, especially as I don't have a large room. Am actually a bit worried about my neighbor's reactions if the sound gets too loud.

I was also able to hear the B&W 601 series 3, pero parang di ko masyado nagustuhan ang sound. Better bass than the M72, but the clarity (not being an audiophile, am not too sure of the correct terminology) isn't as good. However the B&W was brand new, barely broken in, so maybe that explains it. Ms. Diana Krall's "Let's Fall in Love" sounded a bit better on the Mission. Wouldn't the B&W 601 S3 or the M73 for that matter, require a more powerful receiver, instead of the entry level onkyo/denon/yamaha which i'm thinking of getting?

Cybermms,

I don't think I can afford the Mission 780 (much to my dismay :( ) I think I'll be happy with speakers in the P15T (or less) price range. But it has really enjoyed great reviews, maybe I'll ask Stuazon for a demo, so I can have a taste of what might be ;D if I had more money that is.

Hi,

First of all, I am no authority in making reviews . I just wanted to share to you my experience.
I have a set of Mission speakers, the M73, the center forgot the model. and dipoles for the surround.

If you are into home theater, and appreciate the thuds and similar sounds, the M73s should be a consideration. Sometimes I have a hard time where the low frequency sound is coming from; that is from the M73s or my 12" sub.

I am using an old Yamaha RXv990 and I am also very satisfied with it. Babaw lang siguro ako, but anyway, I am happy with this setup.

I also shopped around before I bought my Missions and almost all the time, the sales guy would always point me towards the M7 series because of the restrcted budget that I have. My 2 centavos worth.

Baker
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on Sep 11, 2002 at 02:41 PM: what are the improvements sa M73 na meron sa M73i? and sa M7c1 sa M7c1i..... ??? thanks!

Titanium, sent you a PM :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on Sep 11, 2002 at 04:26 PM: Don,

sent u a PM.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on Sep 11, 2002 at 04:55 PM: Titanium - thanks dude! check pm. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Sep 11, 2002 at 05:45 PM: Hi Don!

I bought an M74 for the front and M72 for the rear last August and I intentionally refarin from buying the M7C1 coz I heard from DCM that they are releasing here in Manila the M7C2. I chance upon to buy the M7C2 yesterday and saw the i-models. I asked Melvyn Chua of DCM, the owner and exclusive distributor of Mission, Arcam, and Musical Fidelity, what's the difference and replied that the only difference is the change in the crossover section of the M70 series speakers.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: baker on Sep 11, 2002 at 06:00 PM: Hi,

WHERE CAN I FIND THE STORE OF MELVYN CHUA, OF DCM?

THANKS.

BAKER
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Sep 11, 2002 at 06:50 PM: Baker,

From the Mission website: ;D

#58 16th Avenue
Cubao, Quezon City
Philippines
Telephone: +63 2912 3979
Fax: +63 2911 4344
Email: [email protected]

Coming from Ali Mall going towards Project 4 via P. Tuazon, turn right at 16th Ave. It's the tall building a few houses from the corner, on the left.

GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: baker on Sep 11, 2002 at 08:35 PM: Gaol,

Thanks for the info. Was your 601s sold already?

Baker
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on Sep 12, 2002 at 09:23 AM: Quote from: new_age on Sep 11, 2002 at 05:45 PM
Hi Don!

I bought an M74 for the front and M72 for the rear last August and I intentionally refarin from buying the M7C1 coz I heard from DCM that they are releasing here in Manila the M7C2. I chance upon to buy the M7C2 yesterday and saw the i-models. I asked Melvyn Chua of DCM, the owner and exclusive distributor of Mission, Arcam, and Musical Fidelity, what's the difference and replied that the only difference is the change in the crossover section of the M70 series speakers.

Thanks dude, I'll get M7C2 na rin :) cguro Fronts and Center na muna aayusin ko, next time na yung surrounds ;D pero pag-naka budget 7DS cguro ok. Thanks again!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Sep 12, 2002 at 10:48 AM: Don

just a 2 cent advice before buying the rear. if you are into dvd-audio or sacd or 24-bit cds, go for direct-radiating speakers on the rear, such as m70 or m71 or m72. mas magandang tumunog than the M7ds. Great ang M7ds sa movies because of its diffuse sound. yan and gamit ko before, after 2 months lang nag-shift ako sa M72. mas maganda kasi sa 5 or 6 or 7-channel stereo ang M72, pwede na rin sa movies. I collect and watch concert dvds than movies that's why i find the M72 better. but if you go for movies, then bili na kaagad ng M7ds! ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on Sep 12, 2002 at 04:00 PM: Quote from: new_age on Sep 12, 2002 at 10:48 AM
Don

just a 2 cent advice before buying the rear. if you are into dvd-audio or sacd or 24-bit cds, go for direct-radiating speakers on the rear, such as m70 or m71 or m72. mas magandang tumunog than the M7ds. Great ang M7ds sa movies because of its diffuse sound. yan and gamit ko before, after 2 months lang nag-shift ako sa M72. mas maganda kasi sa 5 or 6 or 7-channel stereo ang M72, pwede na rin sa movies. I collect and watch concert dvds than movies that's why i find the M72 better. but if you go for movies, then bili na kaagad ng M7ds! ;D

I like movies tsaka concert dvs.... nako mukhang kelangan pag-isipan talaga to... thanks new_age! ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: starburst on Oct 16, 2002 at 01:11 PM: Hello, am just a new member and setting up my first HT.

I just bought last friday and setup my Mission floorstanding Fronts "M73i" (using Denon 1803 and IXOS speaker cables).

Great sound, detailed treble\mids and CLEAN, tight, Bass. Missions Hits them very well (I was able to appreciate my CD's recordings up to the detail instruments and vocal breaths).

Furthermore, very good Sound Imaging, eventhough my room was not similar in size and acoustics with Mr Sonny Tuazon's shop "The Home Theater" where I daily auditioned them here in Makati.

I also auditioned other speakers; but, Mission for me gave the BEST! overall sound reproduction performance. Its an all around speakers (for Music and Movies) and gives the "Best Value" for your limited HT budget : )

Am planning this November to hopefully complete my 6.1-ch setup using Mission M7c2 (center), M7c1i (rear surrounds) and M70 surrounds with Mission Wall brackets.

Mr. Sonny Tuazon's shop have these Mission Speaker Models and more. Its Great checking it out and auditioning it : ) And get pretty good Deals too. To hear and see is to believe.

Actually the Mission speakers will still sound better and better this coming weeks\months because it is still under break-in. : ) I got it Fresh Out from the Box!

:) ;) :D :) ;) :D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: emm on Oct 16, 2002 at 04:08 PM: starburst,

How much did you score for your mission speakers?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cpudle on Oct 16, 2002 at 05:58 PM: Quote from: starburst on Oct 16, 2002 at 01:11 PM
Hello, am just a new member and setting up my first HT.

I just bought last friday and setup my Mission floorstanding Fronts "M73i" (using Denon 1803 and IXOS speaker cables).

Hi. Did you buy the Denon 1803 at Home Theater too? I'm just wondering if you also auditioned the Onkyo SR600 or 700 with Missions.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: starburst on Oct 17, 2002 at 10:54 AM: Quote from: emm on Oct 16, 2002 at 04:08 PM
starburst,

How much did you score for your mission speakers?

At a very good market price : ) You can call-up Sir Sonny at his store at 812-5235. Thank you.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: starburst on Oct 17, 2002 at 11:05 AM: Quote
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Hi. Did you buy the Denon 1803 at Home Theater too? I'm just wondering if you also auditioned the Onkyo SR600 or 700 with Missions.

Yes I bought it there.

I only auditioned SR600 (on display) with Mission M72 then later M73i and it drives the speakers well.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: tekgik on Oct 19, 2002 at 01:19 AM: hi guys,

how is the denon vs onkyo perform with mission speakers? And how can i say if the mission speaker is made from malaysia? Im planning a set-up with either an onk txsr 500 or 600, but others say that denon is good too and both onk and den are good at ht/music unlike yam that is for movies only??? am i correct?

tnx!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: starburst on Oct 21, 2002 at 12:28 PM: The Mission M70-series are Asian Made Models, but Quality, Build, and speaker's Overall performance were not compromised in any. The speakers were still designed in Mission UK Labs.

Per some international Reviews I read, being an Asian-made only contributed a small factor in making i.e. the M70-series an awardee. But the Quality and the Sound Performance of the Speakers highly counts. They even like the speakers better aside from giving Superb Performance and also being "price-friendly". -> I agree : )

Onkyo, Yamaha, and Denon AVRs drives (matches) the Mission Speakers well. I suggest you audition these AVRs and Mission Speakers, and what pleases your Ears (BEING THE BEST JUDGE) wil help you decide on whats Best. This is what i did before, and arrived at my first HT Setup and am very Happy and Satisfied.

Bring Along your favorite CDs, DVDs, other Media and play them with the setup you prefer. Try to call Sir Sonny or visit his shop. :) ;) :D :) ;) :D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: tekgik on Oct 21, 2002 at 09:16 PM: Quote from: starburst on Oct 21, 2002 at 12:28 PM
The Mission M70-series are Asian Made Models, but Quality, Build, and speaker's Overall performance were not compromised in any. The speakers were still designed in Mission UK Labs.

Per some international Reviews I read, being an Asian-made only contributed a small factor in making i.e. the M70-series an awardee. But the Quality and the Sound Performance of the Speakers highly counts. They even like the speakers better aside from giving Superb Performance and also being "price-friendly". -> I agree : )

Onkyo, Yamaha, and Denon AVRs drives (matches) the Mission Speakers well. I suggest you audition these AVRs and Mission Speakers, and what pleases your Ears (BEING THE BEST JUDGE) wil help you decide on whats Best. This is what i did before, and arrived at my first HT Setup and am very Happy and Satisfied.

Bring Along your favorite CDs, DVDs, other Media and play them with the setup you prefer. Try to call Sir Sonny or visit his shop. :) ;) :D :) ;) :D

i see, so thats why famous talaga ang mission for its price and sound! well il take note of all ur suggestions! thank you! ;)
Title: Mission speakers vs. Wharfdale
Post by: jojitb on Oct 24, 2002 at 10:04 AM: Has anybody auditioned/heard an M70-series against a Wharfdale 8.x?? I know that Missions are supposed to be a level above in terms of sound quality, but does this difference justify the almost 30-40% price difference?

I'm all set to buy Missions but if they sound almost the same, I would prefer to save some money for other things, such as a sub....

I'm not much of a music listener, so I will mostly use my setup for Movies and maybe some concert DVDs...
Title: Re:Mission speakers vs. Wharfdale
Post by: starburst on Oct 24, 2002 at 12:12 PM: Quote from: jojitb on Oct 24, 2002 at 10:04 AM
Has anybody auditioned/heard an M70-series against a Wharfdale 8.x?? I know that Missions are supposed to be a level above in terms of sound quality, but does this difference justify the almost 30-40% price difference?

I'm all set to buy Missions but if they sound almost the same, I would prefer to save some money for other things, such as a sub....

I'm not much of a music listener, so I will mostly use my setup for Movies and maybe some concert DVDs...

I had not auditioned Wharfdale but am sure they will sound very different, one factor is due to the different cone materials used (i.e. Mission used Wooven glass composite on its LF driver).

Try to audition both, close your eyes and feel the difference ;) and let your ears be the judge. Bring along your favorite DVDs or CDs :)

Invest on the Best setup. If sub budget will not fit yet, consider Mission's floorstanders (M73i or M74i) as your fronts, it gives enough clean and tight BASS.

I just completed my 5ch. setup yesterday (M73i, M7c1i, M70), got them from Sir Sonny Tuazon . Am planning to buy a Sub next year, now am A-ok with M73i's BASS.

Enjoy : )

:) ;) :D :) ;) :D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Oct 24, 2002 at 01:54 PM: Star,

pa quote naman how much ang score mo sa m73i? malaki ba price difference sa m72?

Thanks!!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: starburst on Oct 24, 2002 at 05:22 PM: DexterC, I sent u pm on your Email. ;)

Thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jojitb on Oct 24, 2002 at 05:53 PM: I just went to shangrila to listen to wharfdale, mission and B&W. My comments:

1. Auditioned the Wharfdale 8.3 in Ambassador
- good construction, nice looks, flimsy grill
- sounded very muddy and indistinct
- very boomy, the highs are missing
dunno if the problem lies with the unit we tested or the receiver they used. Anyway, I did not like it...

2. Auditioned Mission m73i (forgot the shop)
- good contruction, nice looks, nice sturdy grill
- very clear and distinct, esp. on vocals
- nice blend of highs and lows
even if the price is higher than wharfdale, this is s better buy IMHO.

3. Auditioned B&W 602.5 (same shop as the missions)
- good contruction, nice looks, nice sturdy grill
- very clear and distinct, esp. on vocals, clearer than missions
- perfect blend of highs and lows
Very, very nice speakers! Unfortunately, for the price, I would rather get the Missions..

So that's it, I guess I answered my own question. Missions are definitely a very good buy... Now, if I can only get a good price on these ;)

starburst,
could you PM me the price also?
:)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jojitb on Oct 24, 2002 at 08:13 PM: another question:

I will get the M70 as rears, and will wall mount them. Are there wall mounting kits available for these or do I have to make my own?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Aylwin on Oct 24, 2002 at 08:33 PM: I have M70's for the rear which are wall mounted. I like the M70's because they already have holes at the back for wall mounting. I was able to get a 3rd party wall mounting kit from the same place I bought the M70. So I'm sure it isn't hard to find a wall mounting kit. Just ask from the place you intend to buy them. I'm sure they can point you in the right direction. Good luck!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Jermi on Oct 25, 2002 at 04:44 PM: Aylwin/jojitb:

What made you guys decide on the M70 over the M7Ds, I am in the process of finalizing my purchase of my mission sorround...my fronts are B&W 601 s3 LCR60, most likely will be powerd by a Yammie 630...can't wait... ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Aylwin on Oct 25, 2002 at 08:02 PM: Jermi,
In my case, the M7ds wasn't even considered because I didn't want to get any bipoles or dipoles for my particular configuration. I mainly wanted direct firers that were small and easy to wall mount. The M70 was perfect.

Still, the M7ds might be worth consideration. Just try to test both speakers if you can before making a decision.

If it's any help, I also have B&W speakers and the M70 seems to integrate well with them.

:)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Oct 25, 2002 at 08:19 PM: Jermi, cost might also be a consideration in choosing between the m7ds and the m70/m71/m72 for surrounds if one is on a tight budget. The m7ds is almost twice the cost of the the m70.

But if your main use for the surrounds is for movies than multi-channel music, then the extra cost of the m7ds might be justified since its bipolar nature is said to better reproduce the ambient diffuse sound of movies.

As aylwin suggested, test both if you can, and then decide which configuration you prefer. In my case, I chose the m7ds over the m71 back then.

GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jojitb on Oct 25, 2002 at 09:58 PM: aside from the obvious cost advantage, I wanted direct-firing speakers for my rears...

Quote
What made you guys decide on the M70 over the M7Ds
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Jermi on Oct 26, 2002 at 11:16 AM: okay, I'll audtion and will inform you guys of the verdict.

jojitb, before you buy, you might want to consult me on whether your price is the best.

I might be a newbie in HT, but I'm definitely an oldie in price negotiations.. :)

In fact, I know almost all the costs of the dealers...di ko lang alam cost ng mga cables, pero, just for everybody's info, di na ganun kalaki ang kita ng mga dealers, parang margins na rin ng computer dealers... :( I'm from the IT industry, if you guys are making a purchase, you might want to PM me first...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: LoBudget on Oct 26, 2002 at 12:39 PM: Could you also tell me about the pricing you get for the speakers. I'd rather buy the fronts, center and rear at the same time. So far i'm eyeing the Wharfedales since the package costs 15,000 if the performance of the missions is really that good hopefully the price is not that far off from 15,000... In case you encounter a yammie 430 for less than 15,000 and a 630 for somewhere near that please tell me too. I'm looking at a budget of around 35,000 w/o the sub.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Jermi on Oct 26, 2002 at 09:42 PM: I don't think you can get the Missions that low. For the 630, baka you might get a 2nd hand at that price point. For brand new, you can get one siguro less than 24.5t, much less ;)
Nako, baka magalit na mga dealers sa akin...PM na lang niyo ako when you wish to check prices with me... :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: LoBudget on Oct 27, 2002 at 07:03 AM: You own a yamaha right? have you tried the wharfedales with it as well? syempre may break-in period yung speakers so it would be difficult to tell which one has the better sound up front. since you've used them na which do you think is better? paki pm na lang ako regarding prices you found, preferable yung total ng fronts, rears and center... the sub can wait... hehehe... malapit na naman yung x-mas bonus...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: LoBudget on Oct 27, 2002 at 01:17 PM: I know its kinda early, but you guys think prices will drop notciably by december or shortly after? For reciever and speakers?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: tekgik on Oct 28, 2002 at 12:45 AM: hi there,

just want to know you guys that, now im one of the proud users of mission speakers! Its one awesome speaker.... Very nice in clarity! although my speakers are still in the break-in period, i would say that it rocks! BTW i bought an m72 from upscale audio megamall for P10.4k (m not affiliated =) ) but i think thats the price for m72's right now??? I used it with a pioneer 355 and onkyo 500. m72's bass is very nice! the placing of the speaker are very crucial! Ive test my old techno bass cd and whoa! i got a boom box in a small package! very very good talaga! Though im still cant volume up beyond volume 60..... goodluck for the prospective buyers... you wont regret it!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: starburst on Oct 28, 2002 at 12:17 PM: Congratulations!!! :) ;) :D

This weekend I watched "Black Hawk Down," "Harry Potter" and some concert DVDs....all I can say on my ALL-Mission (M73i, M7c1, and M70) setup's performance AWESOME!!!!

Even without a sub yet, Bass kicked! Mids and High were clear, detailed and nicely separated. The Helicopter sounds if its just flying outside your room : ) And the gun-battle was just like in your own-garage.

I'm like in a DTS or DolbyDigital Movie Theater...well feeling safer pa without the problem baka may bomb scare sa malls : )

Furthermore, even I played Loud, as in loud....Mission dont tire your ears...like other speakers do, its still pleasant and polite in your Ears...actually nakatulog ako (pagod na eyes sa TV) even with all those gunbattle, blasting, and chopper Sounds around.

I made the right investment on Mission speakers. Great sound with a price thats friendly.

*******
Per an info I got....mission prices are going up.

*******
FYI:

I saw the New Mission M5-series now available at Home Theater, store ni Mr. Sonny.

***

Enjoy the coming long 4-day vacation watching : )
Title: Mission 780 or 781
Post by: dondon on Dec 13, 2002 at 03:26 PM: Which is better between the 2, Mission 780 or 781?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: abj104 on Dec 28, 2002 at 11:52 PM: guys,

which is better from mission m73 & m74?

is mission better than wharfedale diamomd?

which speaker brand from the two is a better match for yamaha rxv800?

anybody has already the experienced using the equiptment mentioned.

thanks a lot guys !
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: v0elker on Dec 30, 2002 at 02:02 PM: the wharfedales require a beefy amp to really sing. same with dynes. even though they sound just "ok" with most receivers, pair them with a powerful amp and ull be reaping their potential.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on Jan 02, 2003 at 09:00 AM: Question ??

Is the Mission M5 series considered as an upgrade to M 7 series ?? Can somebody clarify this? thanks a lot.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on Jan 02, 2003 at 12:39 PM: Quote from: abj104 on Dec 28, 2002 at 11:52 PM
guys,

which is better from mission m73 & m74?

is mission better than wharfedale diamomd?

which speaker brand from the two is a better match for yamaha rxv800?

anybody has already the experienced using the equiptment mentioned.

thanks a lot guys !

I'm using a M73i with a Yammie RX1200, I'm very happy with it... I think M74 (big brother) is better, pero syempre mas mahal. ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Jan 02, 2003 at 03:05 PM: Hi Don!

I am using Yamaha RX-V800 with Mission M74 (front), M7C2 (center), M72 (rear) and Yamaha SW160 subwoofer. Work great! BUT, it must be paired with the right speaker wire (im using ixos gamma geometry 6006 without spades or banana plug to tame the brightness). I also use MF X-10D and MF X-PSU with ixos 104 RCA (cut it in half about 18 inches long, the shorter the better) to enhance the sound of the RXV800 to give some muscle. For me, this combination gives me clarity that i wanted and power when i need it.

Happy tweaking!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on Jan 03, 2003 at 06:40 PM: Quote from: new_age on Jan 02, 2003 at 03:05 PM
Hi Don!

I am using Yamaha RX-V800 with Mission M74 (front), M7C2 (center), M72 (rear) and Yamaha SW160 subwoofer. Work great! BUT, it must be paired with the right speaker wire (im using ixos gamma geometry 6006 without spades or banana plug to tame the brightness). I also use MF X-10D and MF X-PSU with ixos 104 RCA (cut it in half about 18 inches long, the shorter the better) to enhance the sound of the RXV800 to give some muscle. For me, this combination gives me clarity that i wanted and power when i need it.

Happy tweaking!

new_age, nice setup! ;D same here I'm using IXOS 6006 but with the banana plugs... M7C2 for center, 7DS for surrounds, and Dynaquest DQ120 for the sub. ;D
Btw, for the rear center I've been contemplating on getting a M7C1i or a piece of 7DS. What do you think? Should I go for a dipole or direct-radiating? :-\

I'll try to remove the banana plugs just like your setup ;)

Thanks very much!
Don
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: stradale on Jan 03, 2003 at 08:56 PM: Removing the banana plugs will tame the brightness?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Jan 06, 2003 at 06:04 PM: Hi Don!

I suggest you use a direct-radiating center back speaker and not dipole coz there are 6.1 dvds that dialogues come out in the center back, sagutan sila ng center sa front (Austin Powers yata yun). now, if you use a dipole center back, the voice will not come out natural, me echo. Aside from M7c1i, you may also test M71, i heard one from a friend, seamless naman ang sound.

Good luck!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Jan 06, 2003 at 06:22 PM: Quote from: Titanium on Jan 02, 2003 at 09:00 AM
Question ??

Is the Mission M5 series considered as an upgrade to M 7 series ?? Can somebody clarify this? thanks a lot.

The m5 series are the replacements to the 77 series, which is a higher end than the m7x series but below the 780 series. The award-winning "cinema 7" package consists of speakers in this range (773e fronts, 77c1 center, and 77ds surrounds).

GAOL
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: starburst on Jan 06, 2003 at 06:28 PM: Hello, I used M7c1i for my surround back speakers, the surround back sound field produced was extraordinary, watching the movie "Gladiator" with DTS-EX audio format.

FRL - M73i
C- M7c2
SRL - M70
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on Jan 07, 2003 at 07:49 AM: Quote
The m5 series are the replacements to the 77 series, which is a higher end than the m7x series but below the 780 series. The award-winning "cinema 7" package consists of speakers in this range (773e fronts, 77c1 center, and 77ds surrounds).

Thanks for the info. Im planning to replace my M72 fronts with M5 series speakers and use my M72 for my second set up.

Paging Hyperaudio! do you carry this model?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on Jan 07, 2003 at 10:03 AM: Quote from: new_age on Jan 06, 2003 at 06:04 PM
Hi Don!

I suggest you use a direct-radiating center back speaker and not dipole coz there are 6.1 dvds that dialogues come out in the center back, sagutan sila ng center sa front (Austin Powers yata yun). now, if you use a dipole center back, the voice will not come out natural, me echo. Aside from M7c1i, you may also test M71, i heard one from a friend, seamless naman ang sound.

Good luck!

new_age and starburst, thanks for the info. I'll guess I'll get a M7c1i, thanks very much!!!! ;D

Don
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: abj104 on Jan 08, 2003 at 11:05 PM: sir new age ,
para san ba yung gamit ng MF X sereis of cables na binanggit mo ?
im a newbie to HT set up ,paki turuan mo naman .
appreciate your inputs ! thanks!
i had my set up :

wharf diamond 8 ,8.1,8.3
rxv800
dq120 sub
yamaha cdx 620
pioneer dv533k
technicx cd player SP
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Jan 09, 2003 at 07:31 AM: Hi abj104!

I installed a Musical Fidelity X-10D and X-PSU to the RXV800 to add some muscles to its sound in audio/music only set-up, but in HT, you won't be needing these. Check a number of inputs in one thread here about X-10D to give you comprehensive details.

Good luck!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jan 15, 2003 at 08:12 AM: Is it true that Mission Speakers are made in Malaysia? I am not familiar with this one so bare with my question. Thanks!!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JhunDV on Jan 15, 2003 at 05:02 PM: Yes, for the M70 series. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: flashnymph72 on Jan 18, 2003 at 12:01 PM: Hi all Mission lovers,

i bought my M72s last month lang (barely a month old)

comparing the specs:

M72 (56Hz to 20kHz) / 25 - 100W / P10k
BW DM DM601 S3 (60Hz - 22kHz) / 25W - 100W / P18k
BW DM602 S3 (49Hz - 22kHz) / 25W - 120W / P25k

we tested all three, on the same Pioneer stereo amp (4got the model), and same songs on a cd player, and a speaker switcher, all three connected. the shop employed a mini theater test room.

to my two ears they all sound the same, so the price/performance convinced me to buy the M72s.

i havent got the idea about the brand itself, it was after i bought it and found its website and completely satisfied with it. both for music and DVD movies. the highs, mids and lows are so clear. for a much deeper bass u need a sub i.e. like DQ12/120.

In UK BW and Mission started their businesses almost on the same time. Medyo na una lang ng kunti yung BW. So what else would you want for a much lesser price?

BTW you can read Mission's history and factory tour on their website, in case your curious how they make the spkrs. ;D You'll be surprised.

the shop here also sells Mission FS1 complete 5.1 set.
but havent heard it though.

Mission2Mars,
FlashNymph72
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sago on Jan 25, 2003 at 08:57 PM: Quote from: starburst on Jan 06, 2003 at 06:28 PM
Hello, I used M7c1i for my surround back speakers, the surround back sound field produced was extraordinary, watching the movie "Gladiator" with DTS-EX audio format.

FRL - M73i
C- M7c2
SRL - M70

we were thinking kng sulit b n bumili nang M7c1 and use it muna for center and upgrade s M7c2 in the future n lng? tapos yng M7c1 will be used as back center just like what stardust did.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: flashnymph72 on Jan 27, 2003 at 05:30 PM: bro sago,

i think M7c1 will work for a normal sized HT room...pero kung bigger room then the c2 will do...just like iceman90a's setup he uses the c1...view mo lang pic ng HT room niya sa other thread 8)

ur upgrade idea is also kewl 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sago on Jan 28, 2003 at 07:33 AM: tnx flash,
yung setup namin inv0lves 0nly a small r00m kaya feasible n cgur0 it0. ask k0 lang kung saan st0re m0 n auditi0n yung b0th missi0ns ska b&w. TIA. 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 28, 2003 at 10:17 AM: Quote from: sago on Jan 28, 2003 at 07:33 AM
tnx flash,
yung setup namin inv0lves 0nly a small r00m kaya feasible n cgur0 it0. ask k0 lang kung saan st0re m0 n auditi0n yung b0th missi0ns ska b&w. TIA. 8)

hi,

try Mr Tuason's store (home theater) or Mr Rivo (Hyperaudio)

flash - thanks for the plug ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: flashnymph72 on Jan 29, 2003 at 02:54 PM: Bro sago,
No probs ;D
dito sa amin...its in CDs en Tapes in SMCity (they sell cds tsaka mga amps, sprks etc)
kaso im in iloilo 8)
they have a speaker switcher so convenient mag audition ng mga speakers (it can switch up to mga 10 pairs) kewl nga eh lalo nat kung pipili ka ng mga sprks 8) not sure kung meron din dyan sa manila...just in case im there 4 sure iikot din ako dyan...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: flashnymph72 on Jan 29, 2003 at 03:04 PM: Bro iceman90a,
hehehe...welkx pre! ;D
may i know everyones amp ratings? 8)
just curious kasi...
im using a pioneer 120 watt /ch (6 to 16 ohms) to drive my M72s...hanggang 3.5 lang ako sa volume or else distortion accurs or baka mag suffer na iether sa kanila 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 29, 2003 at 05:56 PM: Quote from: flashnymph72 on Jan 29, 2003 at 03:04 PM
Bro iceman90a,
hehehe...welkx pre! ;D
may i know everyones amp ratings? 8)
just curious kasi...
im using a pioneer 120 watt /ch (6 to 16 ohms) to drive my M72s...hanggang 3.5 lang ako sa volume or else distortion accurs or baka mag suffer na iether sa kanila 8)

am using a marantz sr4200 - 5 x 70w RMS, i don't think i've gone beyond 0. usually stay from -20 to -10
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: marckd1 on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:33 AM: my friend already got a new mission m53 series. very nice speaker for a big room 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: yep119 on Jan 31, 2003 at 02:42 PM: Questions on BI-WIRING Mission speakers of a 2 speaker HT setup.

What is the purpose of BI-WIRING?
What, if any, is its advantage?
How should it be done?

???
???
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 31, 2003 at 03:46 PM: Quote from: yep119 on Jan 31, 2003 at 02:42 PM
Questions on BI-WIRING Mission speakers of a 2 speaker HT setup.

What is the purpose of BI-WIRING?

to give each driver a chance to independently process the signal coming directly from the amp

Quote from: yep119 on Jan 31, 2003 at 02:42 PM
What, if any, is its advantage?

supposed to give a clearer sound

Quote from: yep119 on Jan 31, 2003 at 02:42 PM
How should it be done?

get two red wires of equal length
twist one end together
insert twisted end into +(red) speaker out of front right on your amp
you will have two red ends - insert these into the two red connectors of the right speaker

get two black wires of equal length
twist one end together
insert twisted end into -(black) speaker out of front right on your amp
you will have two black ends - insert these into the two black connectors of the right speaker

repeat above for the left speaker

hope this helps ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: flashnymph72 on Feb 04, 2003 at 06:55 AM: bro yep119 there's a thread about bi-wiring:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1879;start=0

just in case u needed more info 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: yep119 on Feb 04, 2003 at 11:50 AM: I'm also interested..Pls. send PM for your last price.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mojako on Feb 05, 2003 at 05:13 PM: Question lang guys, what'd you recommend?

I get the Mission m70 or m71 or the Wharfedale diamond 8.1s? Which of the mentioned are better in terms of sound clarity?

I recently auditioned the Klipsch SB-1 bookshelf, and I was amazed by the clarity. Clarity talaga yung habol ko. And of course, yung getting most out of your money, mura kasi yung diamond 8.1 eh.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cpudle on Feb 05, 2003 at 06:24 PM: Quote from: mojako on Feb 05, 2003 at 05:13 PM
Question lang guys, what'd you recommend?

I get the Mission m70 or m71 or the Wharfedale diamond 8.1s? Which of the mentioned are better in terms of sound clarity?

I recently auditioned the Klipsch SB-1 bookshelf, and I was amazed by the clarity. Clarity talaga yung habol ko. And of course, yung getting most out of your money, mura kasi yung diamond 8.1 eh.

Had the same question before and I auditioned both. Yung Mission maganda talaga. In terms of clarity, wala kang masasabi. Great for HT. Compared to the Wharfes its a bit more forward. So why did I choose the Wharfes? One reason is price which is also related to WAF ;D. Two, yung midrange ng Wharfes mahusay. About 90%+ of the sounds you're going to hear are midrange freqs so its important that Wharfes get it right---which it does. Last, and this is a personal preference, I want it smooth and laid-back even at the sacrifice of a bit of detail. I'll make it hard for you: If clarity is only your criteria, get the Mission. Listen to the Wharfes and if the level of clarity is good enough for you--it was for me--get them.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sillyputty on Feb 05, 2003 at 06:57 PM: check this out.
wharf 8.1 vs mission 731(predecessor of m71)

http://forum.hifichoice.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3782
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mojako on Feb 06, 2003 at 01:11 AM: thanks for input guys. Audition lang ang sagot dito.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: flashnymph72 on Feb 06, 2003 at 10:51 AM: in my own personal ranking:

1) B&W 602s - good sound, but pricey
2) M72s - good sound, mid price
3) Wharfe 8.2 - fair sound, good price

cpudle was right about clarity of mission sprks...the BW 602s sound as great as the m72s but the price convinced me to get the m72s instead 8)

bro mojako,

only your ears and your pocket will be the judge 8)
Title: Mission m7s Help!!!
Post by: bng on Feb 14, 2003 at 10:27 PM: Does anyone knows where i can buy this here in Manila?
Ok ba to for Home Theater? im buying a Pioneer Elite Thx Receiver ok kaya ito? can u guys suggest a good speaker for this receiver thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Feb 15, 2003 at 10:11 PM: Need advise. Is it ok to pair Mission M71 or M72 cinema pack with Yamaha RX-V430 amp?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Superman on Feb 15, 2003 at 10:20 PM: hi bro!

i would say YES!!! missions are compatible with yamaha...heard this combo already...and it's ok naman...got my text??? thanks bro!!! ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Feb 16, 2003 at 10:11 PM: Quote from: Superman on Feb 15, 2003 at 10:20 PM
hi bro!

i would say YES!!! missions are compatible with yamaha...heard this combo already...and it's ok naman...got my text??? thanks bro!!! ;D

Thanks pre. Got your list. Just ask your colleagues to give me a call once they are in Singapore para maipadala ko.
Title: Re:Mission m7s Help!!!
Post by: flashnymph72 on Feb 17, 2003 at 11:26 AM: Quote from: bng on Feb 14, 2003 at 10:27 PM
Does anyone knows where i can buy this here in Manila?
Ok ba to for Home Theater? im buying a Pioneer Elite Thx Receiver ok kaya ito? can u guys suggest a good speaker for this receiver thanks

sent u a pm...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on Feb 19, 2003 at 03:54 PM: bump ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Mika on Apr 04, 2003 at 06:00 PM: to mission m73i owners, question lang po...

i just bought a pair of these black beauties:

a. approximately how many hours did you break-in your loudspeakers?

b. would you recommend sand-filling the speakers, as stated in the manual? if yes, how did you properly filled-in the speakers with sand.

if you have other suggestions / precautions, they are most welcome.

thanks :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 06, 2003 at 05:20 PM: Mika,

I have also M73i for almost a month now and still on the stage of breaking in don't worry coz the more hours you used will be benificial syempre moderate volume pa rin sir

As for sand filling I tried it also by using plastic bag use for ice hehehehe pero i tripled the plastic tapos divided it to 5 bags / 1/2 kilos of sand then I ask a kid to insert it to the hole as for sound may konting improvement bass and treble parang na specified.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Mika on Apr 07, 2003 at 07:39 PM: thanks hans for the info, can't wait for my speakers to be fully broken-in. i'll try the sand tweak later...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Apr 08, 2003 at 07:09 AM: Quote from: Mika on Apr 07, 2003 at 07:39 PM
thanks hans for the info, can't wait for my speakers to be fully broken-in. i'll try the sand tweak later...

Me too..i am a proud owner of m73i but havent tweaked it yet...still in process of breaking in. ;D.Almost same pala tayo hans...mine was also just a month old.So far i am satisfied with its bass
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jerix on Apr 08, 2003 at 11:36 AM: hey guys,

this is a lil bit off topic but can you please talk more about this sand tweaking and how this is done with your speakers---- can this be done also to a sub to make it even lower thaw we can imagine? -- ;D

On the otherhand, how can we make the speaker bright naman? --- ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Apr 08, 2003 at 01:24 PM: Jerix,

Theres this hole in M73i Speaker where you could put sand to tweak it.This option to put sand on m73i is being stated in the speakers manual. As of now i havent tweaked mine coz i am satisfied the way my speakers sounded.I dont know if it is applicable to other brands of speaker,this sand tweaking thing

dex
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Mika on Apr 08, 2003 at 02:29 PM: Quote from: dexterc on Apr 08, 2003 at 07:09 AM
Quote from: Mika on Apr 07, 2003 at 07:39 PM
thanks hans for the info, can't wait for my speakers to be fully broken-in. i'll try the sand tweak later...

Me too..i am a proud owner of m73i but havent tweaked it yet...still in process of breaking in. ;D.Almost same pala tayo hans...mine was also just a month old.So far i am satisfied with its bass

yes dexterc...

naunahan mo nga dun sa offer ni rene :-(

sayang din yung additional 5% discount nya :-)

ok lang, now we are all enjoying our 73i

happy listening...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Apr 08, 2003 at 02:37 PM: Mika,

So ikaw pala yung tinext nya nung kinuha ko na he!!he!! Yeah even i am only using the 73i...even without subs pa..i am really satisfied with its bass...i might complete my speaker set up this May..Or either upgrade my receiver.It all depends on my budget ;).By the way what receiver are you using to drive those 73i's? Mine is only 65watts/channel yamaha.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Apr 08, 2003 at 03:08 PM: Dexter,

Ilan pala tayong interested with the M73i. Mabilis lang si dexter. Iba tuloy nabili ko.

Complete na your speakers, I know may available pa na M72 si Rene.

Levi
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Apr 08, 2003 at 03:23 PM: Quote from: levi on Apr 08, 2003 at 03:08 PM
Dexter,

Ilan pala tayong interested with the M73i. Mabilis lang si dexter. Iba tuloy nabili ko.

Complete na your speakers, I know may available pa na M72 si Rene.

Levi

Yeah he!!he!! The compatibility of my Yamaha receiver with Mission speakers is very good.Even it is only 65 watts per channel kayang kaya nya...hanggang 12 o clock lang yung volume ayos na.And in music,yung improvement is really there than using the satellite speakers before.Mission compliments the "Brightness" of yam in HT.Very crisp and clear.With regards sa bass Floorstanders is really good.

Boss levi,

I considered your advice...i might just complete my speaker system first before upgrading my receiver thanks for the input

Dex
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Apr 08, 2003 at 03:44 PM: Dex,

Aside from Yamaha, what other receiver would you think match Mission speakers? Im helping a friend setup his HT. I havent tried Mission but my friend is bent on getting them.

Levi
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Apr 08, 2003 at 03:59 PM: Quote from: levi on Apr 08, 2003 at 03:44 PM
Dex,

Aside from Yamaha, what other receiver would you think match Mission speakers? Im helping a friend setup his HT. I havent tried Mission but my friend is bent on getting them.

Levi

Boss levi,

I auditioned Denon 1803 Using Mission m73i.I am impressed especially in Music.Denon got the best from m73i.But in HT i prefer how Yamaha drives the mission...Although we all know HT is the specialty of Yamaha receivers....they are quite aggressive in giving details in HT.Overall...Denon also faired very well with mission.I am planning also to pair mission with Onkyo.

My verdict

Yamaha and mission---HT- Excellent
Music-average
Denon and mission-----HT--Good
Music--Excellent

But again its just my preference...your friend might give a different conclusion pag sya naman ang nakarinig.It all boils down on what he prefers ;)

dex
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Apr 09, 2003 at 05:10 PM: Thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 09, 2003 at 02:45 PM: Mika

your welcome sir... I even tried to bi-wired it more detail sya

Sir Levi,

How about MIssion and Marantz combo ok din sir heard it at Mr Rene Rivo's place
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Apr 10, 2003 at 10:37 PM: Dex,

Would the double banana plug fit the speaker terminal of the Missions or I have to use the single plugs? Im preparing the wires for the HT room Im building.

Levi
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Apr 11, 2003 at 10:52 AM: Quote from: levi on Apr 10, 2003 at 10:37 PM
Dex,

Would the double banana plug fit the speaker terminal of the Missions or I have to use the single plugs? Im preparing the wires for the HT room Im building.

Levi

Bro,

I am not familiar with double banana plugs.Besides i am not using banana plug in my speakers right now ;)

Dex
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Apr 15, 2003 at 02:35 PM: Sir Levi,

the double banana plug that you mention is yun may plastic that hold them?? kung yun ang sinasabi mo sir yes it fit just fine with mission ( for my M73i ) sakto..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Apr 16, 2003 at 02:04 AM: Yup I was refering to that. Thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on Apr 16, 2003 at 07:51 AM: hello,

Anybody using mission 780 speakers? What can you say when it comes to music, ok ba sya? How does it compare with other "musical " speakers in its class, say B& W 303 or 601 series, PSB image, tannoy etc. Reviews naman dyan., pls include brand and model of amplifier or receiver used with the speakers, regards
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 16, 2003 at 11:22 AM: ok ba i pair ang mission speakers sa Bose?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Apr 16, 2003 at 01:24 PM: Quote from: sgc_wdi on Apr 16, 2003 at 11:22 AM
ok ba i pair ang mission speakers sa Bose?

I for one doesnt want to mix my speakers...ideally all your speakers should be the same brand coz each brand of speakers have their own characteristics.Mixing them might not give a good sound reproduction and mixing ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 16, 2003 at 02:21 PM: ic, I'm using Bose Acoustimass kasi eh, so 5.1 lang siya, and I plan to upgrade to 6.1, so I need to get a center speaker..... I plan to get either mission or wharfs...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cybermms on Apr 19, 2003 at 06:12 PM: Quote from: Titanium on Apr 16, 2003 at 07:51 AM
hello,

Anybody using mission 780 speakers? What can you say when it comes to music, ok ba sya? How does it compare with other "musical " speakers in its class, say B& W 303 or 601 series, PSB image, tannoy etc. Reviews naman dyan., pls include brand and model of amplifier or receiver used with the speakers, regards

Hi Titanium!!

The Mission 780's have been What Hi Fi?'s Product of the Year for 2 consecutive years in 2000 and 2001 out performing B&W's 601 s3 as well as JPW202, JBL LX2002,etc. Refer What Hi Fi? March 2002.

Again, in August 2002, What Hi Fi? rated the 780's vs. B&W602 s3, Rega Ara, Ruark Epilogue II, Castle Richmond 3, KEF Q1. The 780's beat all except KEF (they're even) in Sound, Build and Compatibility. (Watch out for the Q1's, they will be available here soon)

What Hi Fi? describes the 780's as "...fantastic speakers that perform well accross the board....high levels of resolution; superb mid range; top build/finish...they sound like much more expensive speakers than they actually are..."

cybermms
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 21, 2003 at 11:27 AM: any idea how much the m70i series sells here?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on Apr 21, 2003 at 07:03 PM: guys,

i went to Rene's shop (hyperaudio) last thurs to audition the mission 780 driven by Rotel RA 02. Though Im not an audiophile, the mission 780 really sings, clear mid and highs and even the bass is reasonable. Its really the "musical" model of the missions, more refined than the M72's I currently use for my HT. Its on sale by the way, just contact Rene.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Apr 23, 2003 at 12:01 AM: I just helped two friends buy M70 series speakers for their HT. Out from the box these speakers are very good. The prices are very affordable and it has a 5 year warranty. It sounded good with the denon 1803 and Onkyo 484. Just my 1 cent.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Apr 24, 2003 at 11:58 AM: for a room about 15x22 feet, is it good enough to get the m73i only instead of the m74i? or is it good enough to get the m71i as fronts?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: stradale on Apr 25, 2003 at 11:39 PM: I was at the Powerplant mall today and chanced upon a pair of m73's being driven by a Musical Fidelity A3 dual mono integrated amp. I do not know if the setup was ideal but the sound was underwhelming especially the bass.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: audio_tyro on Apr 27, 2003 at 01:47 PM: Incidentally, Mission M73 for sale. He is asking only P9,000 for it. He's upgrading; torn between Mission 780 or Dynaudio Audience 42. Contact the owner directly so you can get the best price for the M73 at 0918-910-7982.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: rtsy on Apr 27, 2003 at 05:33 PM: Quote from: stradale on Apr 25, 2003 at 11:39 PM
I was at the Powerplant mall today and chanced upon a pair of m73's being driven by a Musical Fidelity A3 dual mono integrated amp. I do not know if the setup was ideal but the sound was underwhelming especially the bass.

Is this the one at the basement?

Don't be disheartened. There is very, very high ambient noise down there and where those speakers/amp were in a huge open space (basically the entire store + walkway!). I do not think this speaker/amp combo should be judged under these circumstances.

Kahit siguro Wilson WAMM at giant Jeff Rowland di tutunog ng maayos sa goong ambient noise at set-up.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jef616 on Apr 27, 2003 at 09:11 PM: guys wat can you say about m5 series speakers?
can i get a better set of speakers for the same price as the m5s?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Apr 30, 2003 at 03:33 PM: I understand that the "i" in the Mission M7 series stands for Improvement; improvement on cabinet structure and design, making it more rigid and reduce further coloration; and improvement on crossover design to improve its bass. The DS on the Mission M7DS stand for Dipole Speaker. A Dipole Speaker is different from Bipole Speaker, as believed by some as the same. Both have the same speaker configuration except that a Bipole is Out-of-Phase, giving the listener a more diffuse and non-"locatable" sound. Therefore, an M7DS is also great for multi-channel listening, again as opposed by some, as this only provide diffuse sound and still in phase.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on May 03, 2003 at 06:16 PM: I need help.

do you think denon 1403 w/ 60wpc could go well with M70s? planning to get m72, m7c1, and m70. pls. advice. tnx.

where should i go and buy these speakers at the cheapest price? tnx.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 04, 2003 at 01:04 PM: Quote from: julsp168 on May 03, 2003 at 06:16 PM
I need help.

do you think denon 1403 w/ 60wpc could go well with M70s? planning to get m72, m7c1, and m70. pls. advice. tnx.

where should i go and buy these speakers at the most cheapest price? tnx.

I am not familiar with 1403 but i heard the mission paired with 1803..it sounds good bro...Ask hyperaudio or mr. Sonny Tuason regarding price of mission speakers.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatness on May 05, 2003 at 11:35 AM: Hi guys,

I'm a newbie in HT. I recently got a harman kardon AVR3550 and I'm using mission speakers:

m72 for front
m7c1 for center
m70 for surround

is that good enough combination for both receivers and speakers? No sub yet.... lack of budget

Anyway, ???should I upgrade my front into m74 instead and retain both my center and surround speakers coz i might sell my m72 anyway. BTW any suggestion of a sub also, are mission subwoofers good and affordable?

Hope that you can help me guys out?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 05, 2003 at 02:05 PM: Quote from: greatness on May 05, 2003 at 11:35 AM
Hi guys,

I'm a newbie in HT. I recently got a harman kardon AVR3550 and I'm using mission speakers:

m72 for front
m7c1 for center
m70 for surround

is that good enough combination for both receivers and speakers? No sub yet.... lack of budget

Anyway, ???should I upgrade my front into m74 instead and retain both my center and surround speakers coz i might sell my m72 anyway. BTW any suggestion of a sub also, are mission subwoofers good and affordable?

Hope that you can help me guys out?

One option is to buy a seperate subs...i guess the m72 doesnt have enough bass compared to floorstanders like m74 or m73.Regarding the subs...depende yan sa budget mo...theres a lot of good subs out there like DQ paired with mission kung ang budget mo eh less than 10k Pag more than 20k above naman..velodyne subs are available.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: hilario dvd on May 05, 2003 at 03:33 PM: To All Mission-aries,

Any of you guys who owns a Mission M8 sub? My friend has just scored one recently along with M70 series fronts/surrounds and Onkyo 600. However, I'm not quite convinced with the output of the sub. When the volume level is set at 12 o' clock mahina pa rin. I own a DQ and I can say that it really rocks at the same level. Comments, please.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on May 05, 2003 at 04:35 PM: Guys,

Which setting do your prefer with your Mission Speakers, LARGE or SMALL?

Don
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 05, 2003 at 04:38 PM: Quote from: don on May 05, 2003 at 04:35 PM
Guys,

Which setting do your prefer with your Mission Speakers, LARGE or SMALL?

Don

Nice question don...i was also thinking regarding the surround i will be using and center....if i will use m71 as surround will that be classified as large or small? what about m70? or depends on the frequency range the speaker could handle?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on May 05, 2003 at 05:17 PM: Quote from: don on May 05, 2003 at 04:35 PM
Guys,

Which setting do your prefer with your Mission Speakers, LARGE or SMALL?

Don

i have the following settings:
m74 fronts set to large
m71 surrounds set to small
m7c1 center set to small

makes sense di ba? when calibrating the audio, if i have the front set to large, wala nang lumalabas sa sub (dq-12) ko during the crossover test and sub-woofer level setting. so i switch the fronts to small, adjust the subwoofer level - then switch them back to large afterwards

even then , when listening to audio cd's music at the same setting, i have to reduce the sub level
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatness on May 05, 2003 at 05:21 PM: Quote from: greatness on May 05, 2003 at 11:35 AM
Hi guys,

I'm a newbie in HT. I recently got a harman kardon AVR3550 and I'm using mission speakers:

m72 for front
m7c1 for center
m70 for surround

is that good enough combination for both receivers and speakers? No sub yet.... lack of budget

Anyway, ???should I upgrade my front into m74 instead and retain both my center and surround speakers coz i might sell my m72 anyway. BTW any suggestion of a sub also, are mission subwoofers good and affordable?

Hope that you can help me guys out?

Additional question,

Should I set all my speakers to large since I don't have any sub yet?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on May 05, 2003 at 06:13 PM: Here's what i noticed, with my current setting for HT which is all SMALL... The sound is more clear, than setting it to all LARGE. I want the 90hz down to be handled by the subwoofer.

But with stereo listening, i think it's better if you set the main speakers to LARGE.

dexterc, i think it's ok to set it to LARGE.. try switching it while playing a track... see which sounds better.

iceman, try setting the subwoofer to BOTH (MAIN and SUBWOOFER)

greatness- try setting it to LARGE (see if it will sound better), may cut-off yung frequency kasi pag SMALL. So in effect you'll not hear the lower frequencies...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on May 05, 2003 at 06:33 PM: Quote from: don on May 05, 2003 at 06:13 PM
Here's what i noticed, with my current setting for HT which is all SMALL... The sound is more clear, than setting it to all LARGE. I want the 90hz down to be handled by the subwoofer.

iceman, try setting the subwoofer to BOTH (MAIN and SUBWOOFER)

hi - saan ko iset na both? i'm using a marantz sr4200. yes / no lang ang options sa subwoofer ng speaker size selection

ty
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on May 05, 2003 at 08:26 PM: Quote from: iceman90a on May 05, 2003 at 06:33 PM
hi - saan ko iset na both? i'm using a marantz sr4200. yes / no lang ang options sa subwoofer ng speaker size selection

ty

my bad. I checked ur marantz's specs, wala nga. I think your setting sa M74 is ok na. Large talaga yan ;D Other receivers have it, probably your Marantz receiver is configured to feed LFE on the main speakers when you set it to large. Kaya no problem ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on May 06, 2003 at 06:47 AM: I just got my M73, M70, M7c1 mission speakers. Mission speakers are really great. I thank my self for reading all your threads. Syempre sa lahat din ng nagbigay ng insight about mission speakers.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 06, 2003 at 06:51 AM: Quote from: julsp168 on May 06, 2003 at 06:47 AM
I just got my M73, M70, M7c1 mission speakers. Mission speakers are really great. I thank my self for reading all your threads. Syempre sa lahat din ng nagbigay ng insight about mission speakers.

Good to hear that you got your new speakers..by the way what receiver are you using to drive them?

Sent you pm as well
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on May 06, 2003 at 08:35 PM: dexterc,

i am using a denon 1403.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: bigbird2323 on May 09, 2003 at 03:47 AM: is there a big difference in sound quality between the m70,m71,m72.I lived in a 25 sqm flat so my place is really small.would I notice a difference if i use the m70 for both the fronts and sorrounds as opposed to a m71 for the front and m70as sorround.how abot m72/m70 .assuming that I use a sub.any insights?tnx
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: bigbird2323 on May 09, 2003 at 04:06 AM: sorry for the typo.i meant surrounds :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 09, 2003 at 08:22 AM: Go for M72 as fronts and M70 for surround...I think m70 are not really designed for Fronts they are more for surrounds.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on May 09, 2003 at 08:24 AM: Quote from: dexterc on May 09, 2003 at 08:22 AM
Go for M72 as fronts and M70 for surround...I think m70 are not really designed for Fronts they are more for surrounds.

Dex,

How much ang M72 at M70? And how much ang Center na pwedeng i sama sa combi na yan?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Kings on May 09, 2003 at 08:24 AM: Quote from: bigbird2323 on May 09, 2003 at 03:47 AM
is there a big difference in sound quality between the m70,m71,m72.I lived in a 25 sqm flat so my place is really small.would I notice a difference if i use the m70 for both the fronts and sorrounds as opposed to a m71 for the front and m70as sorround.how abot m72/m70 .assuming that I use a sub.any insights?tnx

bro, for small rooms, imho, the difference of m71s against m70s is negligible. of course this is assuming it is to be used in ht, not music. in fact, mission (in its website) actually has a setup that is composed of ALL m70s (called, what else but, m70 cinema). of course lahat ng components niya mission, including an m7cx center and the ms sub. of course this is just one person's opinion. your ears are still the best judge of what's ok or not ok for you.

hope this helps.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on May 09, 2003 at 08:41 AM: Quote from: Courage on May 09, 2003 at 08:24 AM
Dex,

How much ang M72 at M70? And how much ang Center na pwedeng i sama sa combi na yan?

butt in ako ha ;)

m70 - 6,000+
m72 - 9,200+
m7c1 - 6,000+
m7c2 - 9,000+

mga average price range...

i smell upgrade ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on May 09, 2003 at 08:51 AM: Quote from: iceman90a on May 09, 2003 at 08:41 AM
butt in ako ha ;)

m70 - 6,000+
m72 - 9,200+
m7c1 - 6,000+
m7c2 - 9,000+

mga average price range...

i smell upgrade ;D

ehehehehehe thanks iceman, nagtatanong lang ehehe wala pang pera ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on May 09, 2003 at 01:23 PM: Quote from: Courage on May 09, 2003 at 08:51 AM
ehehehehehe thanks iceman, nagtatanong lang ehehe wala pang pera ;D

pag naka mission ka na, matagal tagal na yan bago mapalitan... ;)

linya ko yan dati kay kumander (baka makatulong) ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on May 09, 2003 at 01:26 PM: Quote from: iceman90a on May 09, 2003 at 01:23 PM
pag naka mission ka na, matagal tagal na yan bago mapalitan... ;)

linya ko yan dati kay kumander (baka makatulong) ;D

ehehehehe parang yung linya ko nung nagpalit ako nang Ampli ehehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 09, 2003 at 01:35 PM: Courage,

Narinig mo naman kung pano tumunog yung mission eh kaya for sure sleepless nights ka na naman he!!he!! hoping to complete my set up this month. m70i and m7c1i na lang to complement my present m73i
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on May 09, 2003 at 01:40 PM: Quote from: dexterc on May 09, 2003 at 01:35 PM
Courage,

Narinig mo naman kung pano tumunog yung mission eh kaya for sure sleepless nights ka na naman he!!he!! hoping to complete my set up this month. m70i and m7c1i na lang to complement my present m73i

Yeahhh..ganda nga tumunog..now im torn between Mission and Polk Audio hmmmmm
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sillyputty on May 09, 2003 at 03:02 PM: dex-> magkano kuha mo sa m73?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: v0elker on May 09, 2003 at 03:16 PM: courage:

looks like ur still looking for new speakers to match with ur nad. sayang someone was just selling a pair of exotic-looking (inspired by thai drums) norh speakers (great sounding speakers from thailand) for a bargain price of P10k, kaso nabili agad.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on May 09, 2003 at 03:39 PM: Quote from: v0elker on May 09, 2003 at 03:16 PM
courage:

looks like ur still looking for new speakers to match with ur nad. sayang someone was just selling a pair of exotic-looking (inspired by thai drums) norh speakers (great sounding speakers from thailand) for a bargain price of P10k, kaso nabili agad.

Yeahh medyo namimili nga ako ngayon between Polk and Mission eh :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: v0elker on May 09, 2003 at 04:12 PM: courage: hehehe, i know the feeling. ako din on the lookout (although im not in a rush) for a pair of great (and not prohibitively expensive) speakers for music. medyo bitin kasi yung sub/sat ko when it comes to music.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on May 09, 2003 at 04:44 PM: Quote from: v0elker on May 09, 2003 at 04:12 PM
courage: hehehe, i know the feeling. ako din on the lookout (although im not in a rush) for a pair of great (and not prohibitively expensive) speakers for music. medyo bitin kasi yung sub/sat ko when it comes to music.

hindi rin ako nag mamadali..nag iipon pa.. ti kasing si dexterc eh pinadinig sa akin ang mission eh kaya ayan tuloy ehehehe...tapos narinig ko din ang polk gainst wharf..kaya ayan na naman...

i should stop visiting those stores ehehehehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Kings on May 09, 2003 at 05:50 PM: Quote from: dexterc on May 09, 2003 at 01:35 PM
Courage,

Narinig mo naman kung pano tumunog yung mission eh kaya for sure sleepless nights ka na naman he!!he!! hoping to complete my set up this month. m70i and m7c1i na lang to complement my present m73i

dex, wala na bang stock si hyper ng mga kailangan mo ?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: james16 on May 10, 2003 at 02:52 AM: Hi guys,

I'm a newbie here. I would just like to share my experience with my mission speakers. Hope that you can bear with my long story.

I used to have a set-up of a kenwood receiver KRF-5550D along with kenwood speakers (system 505). It was satisfactory with movies but a bit out of sync with music. I was then disappointed after a few months listening to stereo. I ask my friend if I should replace my receiver coz its ok with movies but quite harsh with music. He told me that I should replace my front speakers instead and assured me that it will definitely improve the sound (90% for speakers as against 10% for the receiver) (don't know if its true but I hope you can give me a better percentage).

I was canvassing bookshelf speakers that sounds good and affordable. Then one of my officemates suggested Mission speakers coz he heard it a couple of years ago and was really impressed.

I went to image and brought along my receiver then to try it out along with the other kind (brands).

When I tried the m72 with my receiver, I was mesmerized with its performance in stereo (like movie musical scores), I tested with my pearl harbor and gladiator movie soundtrack and the music blew me away. Then I tried it with movies, LOTR and Gladiator region 1, and it was great.

So I decided to purchase the M72 for front speakers and I'm glad to replace the kenwood speakers that came along with my receiver.

I'm glad that I listened to my friend in replacing my front speakers and also followed the suggestion of my officemate in getting mission speakers.

I'm saving up money to buy the center and surround speakers next so it would better compliment my set-up.

Mission speakers are the best!!!

Affordable for us people that are in a tight budget nd sounds as good compared to those pricier speakers.

You can't get wrong with MISSION SPEAKERS, they will improve and make the best sound out of any of your receivers.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: bigbird2323 on May 10, 2003 at 05:49 AM: I'm still having sleepless night because of this ;D,but here is the plan that I came up with,please tell me if you think this is a good idea.you see I have an extra pair of an old onkyo integra(a-8019)integrated stereo amp with matching tuner and cd player thats just lying around.if I understand correctly,there isnt a big difference between the wharf and the mission when it comes to movies(or is there?).so I was thinking of getting the entire wharf set to be paired w the 4300 that I will dedicate primarily for movies which will cost me around 12.5k (8.1,8.1,diamond center) and get a mission m72 for a dedicated stereo setup paired with the onkyos.total amount of the two sets will is around 23k. a complete mission setup(m72,m7c1i,m70)will cost roughly the same.what do you guys think? should I still go for the full missions?.the person I spoke to at the store even told me that the when it comes to movies,the wharf may even hold a slight advantage because of its bigger center(diamond vs m7c1).so what do you guys think? please help :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on May 10, 2003 at 04:21 PM: You dont have to complete all speakers at once. Get a complete Mission then save up for your stereo setup. My suggestion is only my opinion, if you dont hear any difference then by all means get the Wharf.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: bigbird2323 on May 10, 2003 at 11:35 PM: Thanks for the advice levi.actually I've decided to go for the missions,I actually bought the m7c1i center this afternoon.I would like to know if there is a diff in terms of sound quality between the m72 and the m72i?.you see a friend is selling me a very well kept 15 month old m72 at a very friendly price(5k).so I'm wondering if I should take it or go for a brand new one withe the "i".guys,what is your take on this.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on May 11, 2003 at 09:30 AM: bigbird,

The 'i' stands for 'improved'. Improved cabinet, improved crossover, improved performance. It is better for you to audition 72 and m72i and notice if there is any difference. If you notice any difference, then evaluate if it is worth buying the "i" series for an additional 4k.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: bigbird2323 on May 11, 2003 at 11:32 AM: to those who heard the m72 vs the m72i.is there really a big difference?.you see,I have not yet developed a keen ear for music.that is why I dont think an audition will help me.I actually can't even discern the subtle differences between the mission & the wharfs,much more so with the m72 & m72i.That's why I'll trust your opinion on this,do you think my friends offer is a bargain?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: van_wilder on May 11, 2003 at 12:08 PM: bigbird, i sent you pm yesterday a. so you finally got pala mission, how is it?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sebman on May 11, 2003 at 12:22 PM: bigbird.. pasingit na rin.. in case d mo bibilhin yung m72 fronts nung kakilala mo.. ako na lang bibili hehehe please pm me wer i can contact yung prend mo.. pang-2nd hand lang budget ko e.. ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on May 11, 2003 at 11:45 PM: Is the sound difference worth the 4T price difference. Im not too familiar with the "i" improvements. The difference is usually very hard to hear.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: bigbird2323 on May 14, 2003 at 02:32 AM: has anybody used perfect views wall mounting bracket for the missions,if so anong ginamit nyong model.advisable ba wallmount ang m72,will there be a difference in sound quality
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on May 14, 2003 at 03:11 AM: I was checking out the perfect view this afternoon and the salesman told me that the model will be based from the size of the speakers.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 14, 2003 at 06:52 AM: Quote from: bigbird2323 on May 14, 2003 at 02:32 AM
has anybody used perfect views wall mounting bracket for the missions,if so anong ginamit nyong model.advisable ba wallmount ang m72,will there be a difference in sound quality

Bro saan mo nakita tong speaker bracket na to? ..i am planning to wallmount my surrounds pag nakakuha na ako
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on May 14, 2003 at 08:00 AM: dex,

singit narin ako. you can buy that in Ace hardware.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 14, 2003 at 08:04 AM: Quote from: julsp168 on May 14, 2003 at 08:00 AM
dex,

singit narin ako. you can buy that in Ace hardware.

Thanks Julsp168.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on May 14, 2003 at 08:33 AM: Guys, ok yung perfect view. I used it to hang my m70 surrounds sa room set up ko. see pic
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/p5fba5445b4b268e1ee175809c07defcd/fc276649.jpg.thumb.jpg)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/p06b5705accb92890731ed8c6de3834c3/fc276486.jpg.thumb.jpg)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 14, 2003 at 08:36 AM: Quote from: Titanium on May 14, 2003 at 08:33 AM
Guys, ok yung perfect view. I used it to hang my m70 surrounds sa room set up ko. see pic
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/p5fba5445b4b268e1ee175809c07defcd/fc276649.jpg.thumb.jpg)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/p06b5705accb92890731ed8c6de3834c3/fc276486.jpg.thumb.jpg)

Nice view there titanium....planning to get m70 too for my surrounds.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: silhouette on May 14, 2003 at 05:13 PM: Quote from: dexterc on May 14, 2003 at 06:52 AM
Bro saan mo nakita tong speaker bracket na to? ..i am planning to wallmount my surrounds pag nakakuha na ako

bro,

try tech-central makati square, kay amiel. when i bought my m70 inalok nya ko ng pang wall mount especially designed for mission speakers. if i'm not mistaken a little over P1.2k.

gracias!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Philander on May 14, 2003 at 05:16 PM: Quote from: Titanium on May 14, 2003 at 08:33 AM
Guys, ok yung perfect view. I used it to hang my m70 surrounds sa room set up ko. see pic
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/p5fba5445b4b268e1ee175809c07defcd/fc276649.jpg.thumb.jpg)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/p06b5705accb92890731ed8c6de3834c3/fc276486.jpg.thumb.jpg)

I can't see the pic. :-\
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on May 14, 2003 at 05:33 PM: Quote from: Philander on May 14, 2003 at 05:16 PM
I can't see the pic. :-\

cant see the pictures too!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: bigbird2323 on May 14, 2003 at 11:58 PM: whats the ideal height for the m72?,in the manual it is said to place the top of the speakers are at ear level to a seated listener but i read somewhere in this forum that its supposed to be the tweeter that should be place to ear level.so which is which?should i put the top or the tweeter at ear level.thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 15, 2003 at 07:02 AM: Quote from: silhouette on May 14, 2003 at 05:13 PM
bro,

try tech-central makati square, kay amiel. when i bought my m70 inalok nya ko ng pang wall mount especially designed for mission speakers. if i'm not mistaken a little over P1.2k.

gracias!

Thanks silhouette....the only way i could maximize my surround is by wallmounting them through brackets...tsaka mas organize and clean pag naka wallmount
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on May 15, 2003 at 07:41 AM: mga bro question lang... based from previous posts, m70 is primarily for surrounds. how well it perform as fronts?

ideal din ba na both m70 ang front at surround?

thanks :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on May 15, 2003 at 01:07 PM: Bigbird,

Pre for me basta ear level yun speaker ok na and try to toe in a little facing the lessener to get the best stereo image.. its like when you close your eyes you can visualize the singer is infront of you..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on May 15, 2003 at 07:15 PM: Dex,

Someone is selling Mission M7ds. Bagay sa iyo yon.

Check this out. Rear speaker pics ng ginagawa ko na HT.

M7ds
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RgCvBMQTVpuG8xl49nXuOHjBvnV09aMfYHXlea0p!oQvH8av3Vh1hd*YhNXHi6EBbCVXAzk7HicnoRMDetNZNMS!6lgMKoUlD0EdLuhwxns/DSC02380.JPG?dc=4675422839455321129)

M70 ( with protective covering pa)
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RgDdAs8TQJyZGphsjiXH*vmXvf7w3aroW4hfaHj8HBOLHVrFVF4BzwIoI2SlXXP!*Qtg530pcIlmqrn*aVvvyd6s1pVnGAvsWPtBBMNh7T0/DSC02531.JPG?dc=4675421982454647218)

M7ds
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RgAAANcTKJ6ZGphsjiXH*iWB4C8w3*3*mjKxbdVADB7bWtIbx8G1VwaYe2a9lBC6zreUv0r1Ejywz3bsI*mkdghMoyagrunigFr0SW43XFQ/DSC02539.JPG?dc=4675421982472765617)

Ronin,

If you have a subwoofer, M70 can be used as front speakers.

Levi
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on May 16, 2003 at 07:46 AM: sir levi,

bket kelangan may sub para magamit yung m70 as front speakers? ???

thanks again.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on May 16, 2003 at 08:08 AM: reposting pic. I hope ok na.

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/pb453a41022054bb2a47a818c6d6ec189/fc2473cf.jpg.thumb.jpg)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/p6c4846e8824b712bf8dccdb38d0f2367/fc2473cb.jpg.thumb.jpg)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on May 16, 2003 at 11:08 AM: titanium,

naka screw ba m70 sa bracket? Mine kc is different, sa back ng speaker ang kabitan. Hindi nakapatong sa bracket.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on May 16, 2003 at 11:18 AM: levi,

What materials can you suggest to mount the 7ds and placement? (High near the ceiling or pwede na sa middle ng wall.)

Thanks very much!

Don
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on May 16, 2003 at 11:34 AM: julsp 168,

the perfect view bracket has adjustable base where you can tighten according to the speaker size, kaya tightly held sya at the bottom and makes it safer.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 16, 2003 at 12:23 PM: Levi,

I saw that add...but i prefer m70 for surround ;)

dex
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on May 16, 2003 at 09:15 PM: Quote from: r0n1n on May 16, 2003 at 07:46 AM
sir levi,

bket kelangan may sub para magamit yung m70 as front speakers? ???

thanks again.

Since its a small speaker, you would need a sub for HT but dont think it does not produce bass. It can sound big for its size

Quote from: don on May 16, 2003 at 11:18 AM
levi,

What materials can you suggest to mount the 7ds and placement? (High near the ceiling or pwede na sa middle ng wall.)

Thanks very much!

Don

The m7ds has holes at the back that you can use. Just put two screws at the wall.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Garp on May 19, 2003 at 09:39 AM: Hi,

What's your experience with breaking in the missions? I have a new m73i and right now the bass is rather weak even if they're just a foot away from the backwall. Does the bass get stronger as you break it in? I have to jack up the tone controls (which I hate) just to get enough bass. When its loud however its really punchy and deep. If I set bass to neutral its really weak.

Thanks for the response.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 19, 2003 at 09:51 AM: Quote from: Garp on May 19, 2003 at 09:39 AM
Hi,

What's your experience with breaking in the missions? I have a new m73i and right now the bass is rather weak even if they're just a foot away from the backwall. Does the bass get stronger as you break it in? I have to jack up the tone controls (which I hate) just to get enough bass. When its loud however its really punchy and deep. If I set bass to neutral its really weak.

Thanks for the response.

After a month or two you will expect a better sounding m73i..got that speaker too.Set your volume to minimum muna...hinay hinay lang then after 2 weeks medyo taasan mo na..till finally it would be fully "break inned"..also tweak it...putt sand sa loob..may instruction naman sa manual nya..they say it could improve a lot sa bass..havent tried it yet but i am sure it would work. ;D I got a demo cd that could really break in your speakers Courtesy of bro isak0411.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Garp on May 19, 2003 at 10:14 AM: Quote from: dexterc on May 19, 2003 at 09:51 AM
After a month or two you will expect a better sounding m73i..got that speaker too.Set your volume to minimum muna...hinay hinay lang then after 2 weeks medyo taasan mo na..till finally it would be fully "break inned"..also tweak it...putt sand sa loob..may instruction naman sa manual nya..they say it could improve a lot sa bass..havent tried it yet but i am sure it would work. ;D I got a demo cd that could really break in your speakers Courtesy of bro isak0411.

Thanks dexterc. Will take your suggestion about breaking-in method. Masyado lang akong naapektuhan nung demo na narinig ko ng Sonus Faber Audi na parang gusto ko ng mabreak in agad yung mission, not that it will be of any match to the sonus--but hey were talking about 200k vs. 12k here. Puwede bang malaman yung title ng demo cd mo?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on May 19, 2003 at 11:13 AM: Quote from: levi on May 16, 2003 at 09:15 PM
Since its a small speaker, you would need a sub for HT but dont think it does not produce bass. It can sound big for its size The m7ds has holes at the back that you can use. Just put two screws at the wall.

thanks :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 19, 2003 at 11:58 AM: Quote from: Garp on May 19, 2003 at 10:14 AM
Thanks dexterc. Will take your suggestion about breaking-in method. Masyado lang akong naapektuhan nung demo na narinig ko ng Sonus Faber Audi na parang gusto ko ng mabreak in agad yung mission, not that it will be of any match to the sonus--but hey were talking about 200k vs. 12k here. Puwede bang malaman yung title ng demo cd mo?

Jingle bells cd...all intrumentals..mostly covers high pitch and bass sounds of the drums.Intended to maximize the sound of speakers. This cd is a copy from isak0411 kaya tuwang tuwa ako..parang demo disc ang katumbas sa DVD ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on May 22, 2003 at 12:56 AM: dex,

Check out page 13 of this thread about the picture of the Mission M7ds. I edited the picture. eat your heart out sa DVD collection. ;D ;D ;D

Levi
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Dracula on May 22, 2003 at 06:37 AM: Quote from: levi on May 22, 2003 at 12:56 AM
dex,

Check out page 13 of this thread about the picture of the Mission M7ds. I edited the picture. eat your heart out sa DVD collection. ;D ;D ;D

Levi

Si Levi video rental shop yata yung pinost or branch ng astro ;D (dami ng dvd's). Yung m70 niya are for surrounds? or is this a 7.1 set-up?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 22, 2003 at 06:48 AM: Quote from: levi on May 22, 2003 at 12:56 AM
dex,

Check out page 13 of this thread about the picture of the Mission M7ds. I edited the picture. eat your heart out sa DVD collection. ;D ;D ;D

Levi

Thats a great set up and a lot of collection levi...is that a 7.1 set up using all mission speakers?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: acg on May 22, 2003 at 07:42 AM: I talked to a store owner selling mission speakers and he mentioned that there is a Made in Malaysia and the European made one. He said that the European one has better build quality and components but is about triple what the malaysian made costs. Is there a difference in sound quality? The missions you guys are talking about are they the european ones? would any of you recommend a malaysian made mission speaker?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: pukx on May 22, 2003 at 08:00 AM: Quote from: acg on May 22, 2003 at 07:42 AM
I talked to a store owner selling mission speakers and he mentioned that there is a Made in Malaysia and the European made one. He said that the European one has better build quality and components but is about triple what the malaysian made costs. Is there a difference in sound quality? The missions you guys are talking about are they the european ones? would any of you recommend a malaysian made mission speaker?

I do not own mission speakers but I think there's no difference between malaysian & EU made speakers, they are all CE certified(Copy Exactly!) just my thoughts ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on May 22, 2003 at 08:00 AM: Quote from: dexterc on May 22, 2003 at 06:48 AM
Thats a great set up and a lot of collection levi...is that a 7.1 set up using all mission speakers?

Ala eh, ang pagkadaming DVD's nun garabe...ehehe :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on May 22, 2003 at 05:01 PM: Quote from: dexterc on May 22, 2003 at 06:48 AM
Thats a great set up and a lot of collection levi...is that a 7.1 set up using all mission speakers?

Yup 7.1 yung speakers but the receiver is 6.1 only. He will be using M72,M7ds,M70 and M7C2 to be driven by Denon 1803 and B&W subs.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on May 23, 2003 at 07:57 AM: Quote from: levi on May 22, 2003 at 05:01 PM
Yup 7.1 yung speakers but the receiver is 6.1 only. He will be using M72,M7ds,M70 and M7C2 to be driven by Denon 1803 and B&W subs.

Now i know who owns that house ;D ;D Good to hear that the man himself is also using 1803 paired with mission ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: lakambini on May 23, 2003 at 10:10 AM: what appropriate model of mission standmount speakers should i use for this set-up?

hk hd 710
hk 670

i listen mostly to mellow music and i would prefer speakers with great detail/accuracy and excellent imaging.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Philander on May 29, 2003 at 01:14 PM: Please quote the price of the Mission M7 series.

Thanks.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: BuLLeT on Jun 11, 2003 at 08:57 PM: For all the owners of Malaysian made M71, here is one review that you might want to read.

http://www.stereophile.com/showarchives.cgi?511
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 07:21 AM: Finally.....got the m7c1 to complete the cast of characters he!!he!!

Fronts-m73i
Center-m7c1
Surrounds-m70
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on Jun 12, 2003 at 07:40 AM: thats great bro, nagamot na SARS mo siguro, for the meantime, he he
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Jun 12, 2003 at 07:44 AM: congratulations ! kailangan mo pa ng push from special friends to make you take the last plunge... hehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 07:48 AM: Quote from: jackryan on Jun 12, 2003 at 07:44 AM
congratulations ! kailangan mo pa ng push from special friends to make you take the last plunge... hehehe

Ha!!ha!! OO nga,actually medyo late night na yung transaction ko kagabi. Parang gusto ko tuloy mag leave kanina para ma testing maghapon yung set up ko he!!he!!..It took 3 months to complete it.

Next target subs naman ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jun 12, 2003 at 07:57 AM: dexterc,

Congrats! it is worth waiting to complete mission speaker setup. ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 08:07 AM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 07:21 AM
Finally.....got the m7c1 to complete the cast of characters he!!he!!

Fronts-m73i
Center-m7c1
Surrounds-m70

Wow pare congrats ehehehehe..o ano pa inaantay mo, bili na nang sub ehehehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Dracula on Jun 12, 2003 at 09:05 AM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 07:21 AM
Finally.....got the m7c1 to complete the cast of characters he!!he!!

Fronts-m73i
Center-m7c1
Surrounds-m70

Saan mo nilagay yung m70 mo? Did you mount it on a wall or on stands? what receiver are you using nga pala we have the same speakers eh
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 09:17 AM: Is there a way na sa Ceiling naka mount yung surrounds?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Dracula on Jun 12, 2003 at 09:21 AM: Quote from: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 09:17 AM
Is there a way na sa Ceiling naka mount yung surrounds?

I saw ceiling mounts sa park square 1 and sa SM pero hindi ko sure if they will fit the m70. Sana magfit wala akong space for stands eh
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 09:40 AM: Quote from: dracula on Jun 12, 2003 at 09:21 AM
I saw ceiling mounts sa park square 1 and sa SM pero hindi ko sure if they will fit the m70. Sana magfit wala akong space for stands eh

How much? Kasi yung paglilipatan ko nang HT walang option na ikabit ko sa wall yung surrounds eh kasi sobrang lalayo nang wall..kaya kelangan eh sa ceiling, would it fit the Diamond 8.1?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatness on Jun 12, 2003 at 09:41 AM: Congrats Dexterc sa mga speakers mo. Enjoy! Kulang ka na lang ng sub ba? Pareho pala tayo.

Any plans kung anong sub balak mo kunin, sabay na lang ako sayo. I still can't decide kung anong sub ipapares ko sa mission speakers ko. Are mission subs affordable and produces good lfe?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Dracula on Jun 12, 2003 at 10:01 AM: Quote from: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 09:40 AM
How much? Kasi yung paglilipatan ko nang HT walang option na ikabit ko sa wall yung surrounds eh kasi sobrang lalayo nang wall..kaya kelangan eh sa ceiling, would it fit the Diamond 8.1?

Yung nakita ko sa park square worth 850 a pair na yun all steel so mukhang ok yung built yung sa sm 400 a piece a mix of steel and plastic parts they have this sa true value sa perk square also. Not sure if it would fit 8.1's may holes ba sa likod yun for screwing?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 10:04 AM: Quote from: dracula on Jun 12, 2003 at 10:01 AM
Yung nakita ko sa park square worth 850 a pair na yun all steel so mukhang ok yung built yung sa sm 400 a piece a mix of steel and plastic parts they have this sa true value sa perk square also. Not sure if it would fit 8.1's may holes ba sa likod yun for screwing?

Naku di ko alam kung may holes yung 8.1, hmmmm...ill just check it out pag nakaluwas ako..

Thanks pre ehehehe :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 10:25 AM: Quote from: greatness on Jun 12, 2003 at 09:41 AM
Congrats Dexterc sa mga speakers mo. Enjoy! Kulang ka na lang ng sub ba? Pareho pala tayo.

Any plans kung anong sub balak mo kunin, sabay na lang ako sayo. I still can't decide kung anong sub ipapares ko sa mission speakers ko. Are mission subs affordable and produces good lfe?

Maybe around september pa ako kukuha. ng subs..sige will let you know kung kukuha na ako...eyeing for a really good subs
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 10:30 AM: Quote from: dracula on Jun 12, 2003 at 09:05 AM
Saan mo nilagay yung m70 mo? Did you mount it on a wall or on stands? what receiver are you using nga pala we have the same speakers eh

Wall mounted..kinuha ko kay amiel ng tech central sa mcs...sakto sa butas sa likod ng m70 yung nabili ko na pang wall mount ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 12, 2003 at 12:07 PM: Dexterc,

Uy congrats!! buo na sarap pre long weekend tayo for sure whole day yan

Again congrats pre!! :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 12, 2003 at 12:09 PM: Courage,

Walang hole yun 8.1 balak ko din before sa ceiling kabit but no hole pre
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: banzai on Jun 12, 2003 at 12:58 PM: Dex,

You might need a DD or THX plaque aside from a sub to complete your setup. ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jun 12, 2003 at 12:59 PM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 07:48 AM
Ha!!ha!! OO nga,actually medyo late night na yung transaction ko kagabi. Parang gusto ko tuloy mag leave kanina para ma testing maghapon yung set up ko he!!he!!..It took 3 months to complete it.

Next target subs naman ;)

Congrats Dex. Finally ready for show na. Grabe na Sars mo, wlang pang 24 hours and your eyeing a subwoofer. Maganda Velodyne, its worth the price and no more upgrade dahil sobrang mahal mga higher brands.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:11 PM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Jun 12, 2003 at 12:09 PM
Courage,

Walang hole yun 8.1 balak ko din before sa ceiling kabit but no hole pre

Ngek..paano kaya yun, paano ko ibibitin sa ceiling yun :(
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:12 PM: Quote from: levi on Jun 12, 2003 at 12:59 PM
Congrats Dex. Finally ready for show na. Grabe na Sars mo, wlang pang 24 hours and your eyeing a subwoofer. Maganda Velodyne, its worth the price and no more upgrade dahil sobrang mahal mga higher brands.

Maya lang nang konti eh dun mo naman makikita si Dex sa subwoofer thread ehehehehe ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: BuLLeT on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:15 PM: Dextrec,

OK... Congratulations!

Mission accomplished ka na....

Enjoy your set up!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:17 PM: Buti pa si Dex Mission Acconplish.. ako ata eh Mission Impossible ehehehehehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:18 PM: dex,

can you share with us the breakdown of your 3 months quest for the Mission speakers???

ang sarap ng long weekend mo ! ;-)

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:18 PM: Quote from: levi on Jun 12, 2003 at 12:59 PM
Congrats Dex. Finally ready for show na. Grabe na Sars mo, wlang pang 24 hours and your eyeing a subwoofer. Maganda Velodyne, its worth the price and no more upgrade dahil sobrang mahal mga higher brands.

OO nga eh...someone is offering me a cht-8 na velo. Kaya lang feeling ko bitin yun...really have to save more funds for this one. ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:21 PM: How about the VX10? Mission have good bass diba? then why get a CHT model?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:22 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:18 PM
dex,

can you share with us the breakdown of your 3 months quest for the Mission speakers???

ang sarap ng long weekend mo ! ;-)

-jackryan 8)

Jackryan,

Sold my 5.1 nsp 220 last march,then luckily i got a good deal from hyperaudio for my m73i fronts....have to be contented for 2 channel for more than 2 months.Then got my m70 last week and my m7c1 last night. ;) Now i have to save some more for my subs,then eventually december bonus for my receiver upgrade.

Buti na lang binata pa ako kung hinde baka katakot takot na explanation din kung di ako supported ng future wife ko sa hobby na to he!!he!!

8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:24 PM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:22 PM
Jackryan,

Sold my 5.1 nsp 220 last march,then luckily i got a good deal from hyperaudio for my m73i fronts....have to be contented for 2 channel for more than 2 months.Then got my m70 last week and my m7c1 last night. ;) Now i have to save some more for my subs,then eventually december bonus for my receiver upgrade.

Buti na lang binata pa ako he!!he!!

8)

Bakit pa paabutin nang december, bili na agad nang sub ehehehehehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:24 PM: Quote from: levi on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:21 PM
How about the VX10? Mission have good bass diba? then why get a CHT model?

Di ko pa narinig yung vx10...tsaka i will start my audition pag may sufficient funds na he!!he!! para wala ako masyado iniisip :( Mahirap pag panay audition lang
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:25 PM: Quote from: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:24 PM
Bakit pa paabutin nang december, bili na agad nang sub ehehehehehehe

Basta ba pauutangin mo ako eh ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: BuLLeT on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:27 PM: Courage,

Don't be discouraged... hehehe....

Good things come to those who wait. Di ba lagi ka nga nagpapalit ng receiver eh.

So take it easy baka higher than the M7 series makuha mo.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:27 PM: Quote from: banzai on Jun 12, 2003 at 12:58 PM
Dex,

You might need a DD or THX plaque aside from a sub to complete your setup. ;D

A thx would be nice..he!!he!1 pero baka speaker cables muna mamaya kina hyper
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:29 PM: Quote from: Bullet on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:27 PM
Courage,

Don't be discouraged... hehehe....

Good things come to those who wait. Di ba lagi ka nga nagpapalit ng receiver eh.

So take it easy baka higher than the M7 series makuha mo.

Oo nga eh, i really love the sound of mission, ito kasi si dex eh pinadinig pa sa akin ehehehehehe

Dex,

pauutangin ehehehehe......wala akong pera waaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Compaq on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:33 PM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:24 PM
Di ko pa narinig yung vx10...tsaka i will start my audition pag may sufficient funds na he!!he!! para wala ako masyado iniisip :( Mahirap pag panay audition lang

Yo!

Pasyal ka kay Sonny (Home Theater). Merong VX10 na bine-break-in dun. ;D

'Was there this morning (7:00am, aga no? ;D) and was able check the unit... yeah, it's good, tama lang ang lambot ng bass.

You'll be surprised with how much it cost.... :)

Cheers!!!
Compaq
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:39 PM: Quote from: Compaq on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:33 PM
Yo!

Pasyal ka kay Sonny (Home Theater). Merong VX10 na bine-break-in dun. ;D

'Was there this morning (7:00am, aga no? ;D) and was able check the unit... yeah, it's good, tama lang ang lambot ng bass.

You'll be surprised with how much it cost.... :)

Cheers!!!
Compat

Thanks Bro compaq but I will have to minimize auditioning muna...instead na ma inspire ako na mag save..lalo lang ako na fru frustrate pag wala pang funds for this equipment.I will start my audition pag may budget na.

8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JhunDV on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:41 PM: tama, bro. dex. I-enjoy mo muna yang mga napundar mo in the meantime. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [joms] on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:51 PM: also heard the VX10 kayna Sonny (HomeTheater). Medyo bitin ako sa bass. Malambot lambot yung palo nya pero nde ako ma kontento sa bass... medyo may kahinaan.

Lets see after a month or two pagkatapos nyang ma break-in ng todo ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Jun 12, 2003 at 02:14 PM: sobrang excitement ni brother compaq... naging compat tuloy... dapa siguro ma-check on the reason for all this excitement ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Jun 12, 2003 at 02:17 PM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:22 PM
Jackryan,

Sold my 5.1 nsp 220 last march,then luckily i got a good deal from hyperaudio for my m73i fronts....have to be contented for 2 channel for more than 2 months.Then got my m70 last week and my m7c1 last night. ;) Now i have to save some more for my subs,then eventually december bonus for my receiver upgrade.

Buti na lang binata pa ako kung hinde baka katakot takot na explanation din kung di ako supported ng future wife ko sa hobby na to he!!he!!

8)

brother dexterc,

i meant cost breakdown... how much did it require in terms of funding to complete your set (minus the sub) ?

ang galing galing ! ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 02:22 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Jun 12, 2003 at 02:17 PM
brother dexterc,

i meant cost breakdown... how much did it require in terms of funding to complete your set (minus the sub) ?

ang galing galing ! ;D

M73i--11,600 Brand new from hyperaudio....special sale nya nun 25% discount on his mission speakers( 1st week of march)..if i am not mistaken 3 kaming nagpa reserve..Nauna lang ako.

m70--5k, 2nd hand from silhoutte. He decided to upgrade his surrounds to m71.

m7c1--4.5k 2nd hand, from chaplin.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Compaq on Jun 12, 2003 at 02:23 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Jun 12, 2003 at 02:14 PM
sobrang excitement ni brother compaq... naging compat tuloy... dapa siguro ma-check on the reason for all this excitement ;D

Nyah... thanks, modified my post... :) One thing with VX10, meron siyang "V" sign sa harap, parang Voltes V. ;D (pag walang grill).

Back to the topic... sorry... :)

Cheers!!!
Compaq
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Jun 12, 2003 at 02:30 PM: si brod dexterc... mahiyain pa...

para ma-encourage si courage at maging matapang ulit sa misis niya to justify SARS, can you share actual prices paid for each component?

PRICELESS ?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Compaq on Jun 12, 2003 at 02:32 PM: Quote from: JhunDV on Jun 12, 2003 at 01:41 PM
tama, bro. dex. I-enjoy mo muna yang mga napundar mo in the meantime. :)

TAMA!!! Enjoy your Mission speakers, sulitin mo muna yung oras na magkasama kayo... Congrats na lang bro (for your new setup)... :)

... pero alam mo, madali namang kausap yang si Sonny kung talagang intersado ka dun sa sub... ;D

Cheers!!!
Compaq
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 02:34 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Jun 12, 2003 at 02:30 PM
si brod dexterc... mahiyain pa...

para ma-encourage si courage at maging matapang ulit sa misis niya to justify SARS, can you share actual prices paid for each component?

PRICELESS ?

Bro jack,

Breakdown already stated...from hard earned money.

But very satisfying ;)

Dex
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Qman on Jun 12, 2003 at 08:33 PM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 12, 2003 at 02:34 PM
Bro jack,

Breakdown already stated...from hard earned money.

But very satisfying ;)

Dex

ayus kumpleto ka na pala dex congrats ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jun 12, 2003 at 11:15 PM: im thinking of upgrading my m7c1i to a m7c2i,meron bang difference and do you guys think I will notice it.btw anong settings nyo for the m72 large ba o small.tnx
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: BuLLeT on Jun 13, 2003 at 12:19 PM: bigbird,

IMHO there is a difference bet. M7c1 & M7C2. Dialogues have fuller body in the C2 model.

Go try for yourself and listen for the difference and if you think the extra bucks is worth it, then go ahead. But if you do not hear any difference, lucky you and you will be saving some bucks.

Audition it now. hehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: don on Jun 13, 2003 at 12:37 PM: Quote from: bigbird2323 on Jun 12, 2003 at 11:15 PM
im thinking of upgrading my m7c1i to a m7c2i,meron bang difference and do you guys think I will notice it.btw anong settings nyo for the m72 large ba o small.tnx

Bullet is right, I have both center speakers. Masmataba ang tunog.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dondie on Jun 13, 2003 at 05:39 PM: what about the m74? any feedback on this type? is it good with the Pioneer 811-S?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 14, 2003 at 08:13 AM: Very satisfied with the M7c1....it all depends on the size of your room ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 14, 2003 at 12:22 PM: Dex,

Very good bargain pala yun bigay ni chaplin hehehe.. pre what speaker cable do you use?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 15, 2003 at 12:38 AM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Jun 14, 2003 at 12:22 PM
Dex,

Very good bargain pala yun bigay ni chaplin hehehe.. pre what speaker cable do you use?

ixos 6006
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sago on Jun 15, 2003 at 01:02 PM: Quote from: don on Jun 13, 2003 at 12:37 PM
Bullet is right, I have both center speakers. Masmataba ang tunog.

pre bka u want to sell ur m7c1i just pm me. hehe. ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 15, 2003 at 05:26 PM: dEX,

Ganda yan clarity labas na labas.. yan yun purple pre na braided o yun grey.

Sago,

M7c1 ko for sale text me 0916-730-0331
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jun 15, 2003 at 08:40 PM: The purple is 6003 while the grey is 6006.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jun 15, 2003 at 09:03 PM: hi dexterc can you give me a review of the 6006,I went to rene this afternoon and he told me you got it from him.I'm thinking whether to get the 6006 or just get a regular 12 ga and biwire it.btw i'm using an ordinary 16 ga right now.malaki ba diff if i upgrade

to all mission owners.have you notice a difference in terms of sound quality pag naka biwire?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sago on Jun 15, 2003 at 09:23 PM: Quote from: levi on May 11, 2003 at 11:45 PM
Is the sound difference worth the 4T price difference. Im not too familiar with the "i" improvements. The difference is usually very hard to hear.

i agree. saan kaya pwedeng mgaudition ng mission n with n without "i" improvements. ??? ???
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Blade on Jun 15, 2003 at 09:31 PM: Quote from: bigbird2323 on Jun 15, 2003 at 09:03 PM
to all mission owners.have you notice a difference in terms of sound quality pag naka biwire?

mapapansin nyo agad ang diff from a reg 12ga wire to an ixos speaker wire.
pero mas maganda pa kung naka biwire, m using a 6003 purple and 6006 grey wires.
yung nabili ni dex ay 6006 na silver.

napa kinggan din namin yung mission spkrs ni dex with bro isak's tube amp ang ganda ng combi....
this was after our bball eb....

blade.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 16, 2003 at 07:34 AM: After the tube amp of bro isak made my m73i sing....i am will start saving now for the tube amp.I will let my yamaha handle the HT...and tube amp for the audio
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 16, 2003 at 10:26 AM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 16, 2003 at 07:34 AM
After the tube amp of bro isak made my m73i sing....i am will start saving now for the tube amp.I will let my yamaha handle the HT...and tube amp for the audio

Uyy si dex mag tutube amps..naks naman..audiophile na audiophile ka na nyan tsong ehehehe ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 16, 2003 at 10:28 AM: Quote from: Courage on Jun 16, 2003 at 10:26 AM
Uyy si dex mag tutube amps..naks naman..audiophile na audiophile ka na nyan tsong ehehehe ;)

Pare mapapa wow ka pag nakarinig ka ng de tubo ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 16, 2003 at 11:17 AM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 16, 2003 at 10:28 AM
Pare mapapa wow ka pag nakarinig ka ng de tubo ;)

Ehehehe ayaw ko mag try nyan, sakit lang nang katawan pag narinig ko yan at magustuhan ko ehehehehe.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: john5479 on Jun 16, 2003 at 11:52 AM: Quote from: Courage on Jun 16, 2003 at 11:17 AM
Ehehehe ayaw ko mag try nyan, sakit lang nang katawan pag narinig ko yan at magustuhan ko ehehehehe.

di bale mabibigat ang tube amps...di niya maibabato sa iyo...mahirap nga lang dalhin hehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: BuLLeT on Jun 16, 2003 at 12:58 PM: dex,

Man, what brand & model of tube amp did you tri w/ your M73?

Thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 16, 2003 at 01:00 PM: Quote from: BuLLet on Jun 16, 2003 at 12:58 PM
dex,

Man, what brand & model of tube amp did you tri w/ your M73?

Thanks

ST70 and Antique Lab pre amp...courtesy of bro isak....the best pa rin ang tube when it comes to 2 channel music
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Qman on Jun 16, 2003 at 02:28 PM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 16, 2003 at 01:00 PM
ST70 and Antique Lab pre amp...courtesy of bro isak....the best pa rin ang tube when it comes to 2 channel music

dex anong speaker ni isak sa tube nya?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 16, 2003 at 02:48 PM: Quote from: Qman on Jun 16, 2003 at 02:28 PM
dex anong speaker ni isak sa tube nya?

Dati klipsch rb3...then mission 780..ngayon ina antay nya yung fostex nya na floorstanders.

but it blends well sa mission..lalong lumabas yung potential ng mission m73i ko sa tube amp when it comes to audio
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 16, 2003 at 03:10 PM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 16, 2003 at 02:48 PM
Dati klipsch rb3...then mission 780..ngayon ina antay nya yung fostex nya na floorstanders.

but it blends well sa mission..lalong lumabas yung potential ng mission m73i ko sa tube amp when it comes to audio

Mukang mas mauuna ang tubes bago ang receiver ah ehehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 16, 2003 at 03:16 PM: Quote from: Courage on Jun 16, 2003 at 03:10 PM
Mukang mas mauuna ang tubes bago ang receiver ah ehehehe

Pare the reason for me too upgrade eh makakuha ng good receiver in both HT and Audio....pero becoz of the sound ng tube..no plan to get a new receiver na..tube will do...yamaha rocks in HT...My tube will do the audio...sa tingin ko mas makakamura pa ako dito
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 16, 2003 at 03:18 PM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 16, 2003 at 03:16 PM
Pare the reason for me too upgrade eh makakuha ng good receiver in both HT and Audio....pero becoz of the sound ng tube..no plan to get a new receiver na..tube will do...yamaha rocks in HT...My tube will do the audio...sa tingin ko mas makakamura pa ako dito

Ayos yan bro, picturan mo pag nakumpleto mo na setup mo ehehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 16, 2003 at 03:21 PM: Dex,

Interested with tube meron ata niluluto sa kabila DIY tube for only 10k ang price better check it out pre. I'm interested also sa tube hehehe

Courage,

agree mas mabigat ang tube amp hirap ihagis hehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 16, 2003 at 03:32 PM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Jun 16, 2003 at 03:21 PM
Dex,

Interested with tube meron ata niluluto sa kabila DIY tube for only 10k ang price better check it out pre. I'm interested also sa tube hehehe

Yeah waiting for that...heard a lot of tube amp from vintage dog,eposman and isak of course...test drive namin yung m73i ko last sat sa place nya. Ayos sulit talaga mission
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Courage on Jun 16, 2003 at 03:42 PM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Jun 16, 2003 at 03:21 PM
Dex,

Interested with tube meron ata niluluto sa kabila DIY tube for only 10k ang price better check it out pre. I'm interested also sa tube hehehe

Courage,

agree mas mabigat ang tube amp hirap ihagis hehehe

Eheheheh ang problema eh baka ako ang ihagis sa tube amps ehehehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Qman on Jun 16, 2003 at 03:54 PM: OT

ayus. pag nag bb eb uli makasama kina isak at mapakinggan ang tube amp nya. ;D

me DIY doon sa kabilang forum pinoydiphiles na tube amp .
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Jun 18, 2003 at 11:54 AM: to mission speaker dealers, can you please pm me on the prices of m7c2, m72, m73i (floor standing) and other models you might have. thanks!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 18, 2003 at 02:59 PM: PRe try to contact Rene Rivo and Sonny Tuazon both are mission speaker dealers

Rene - 8325710
Sonny - 812-5235 / 524-8631
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatness on Jun 20, 2003 at 11:22 AM: Guys,

Tanong ko lang po? Will bi-wiring of my m72i to the hk3550 improve the sound performance? I'm planning to bi-wire ecosse and monster cable sa fronts ko po.

Or should I bi-wire only both types of speaker cables?

Or wag na lang mag bi-wire?

Hoping for your immediate and wise replies
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 22, 2003 at 05:31 PM: Greatness,

Yes it will improve even changing the metal jumper will improve sound.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jun 22, 2003 at 10:41 PM: Quote from: dexterc on Jun 16, 2003 at 03:16 PM
Pare the reason for me too upgrade eh makakuha ng good receiver in both HT and Audio....pero becoz of the sound ng tube..no plan to get a new receiver na..tube will do...yamaha rocks in HT...My tube will do the audio...sa tingin ko mas makakamura pa ako dito

Dex,

Pag may tube ka na, you need to get another pair of M73, another CD player, more interconnects and speakers wires. Mas mahal na yan. :)

Levi
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 23, 2003 at 07:10 AM: Quote from: levi on Jun 22, 2003 at 10:41 PM
Dex,

Pag may tube ka na, you need to get another pair of M73, another CD player, more interconnects and speakers wires. Mas mahal na yan. :)

Levi

Levi,

A dedicated cd player is inevitable to buy kahit naka SS ka kung gusto mo talaga ng good music...i will still use my existing m73 since wala naman ako dedicated na HT or listening room....so ang probable na kukunin at pagkaka gastusan ko lang eh dedicated cd player and the tube....still in my estimate mas mura kaysa mag upgrade ng receiver..at least kung tube ako sa ngayon..i have the best of both world..ss and tube ;)

dex

By the way i heard my m73 sound paired with the st-70 of isak..it sounds good.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jun 23, 2003 at 04:18 PM: So you will just transfer the speaker wires when you listen to tubes? If your using banana plugs, mabilis lang.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 23, 2003 at 04:23 PM: Quote from: levi on Jun 23, 2003 at 04:18 PM
So you will just transfer the speaker wires when you listen to tubes? If your using banana plugs, mabilis lang.
Yup..for the meantime ganun muna...maybe i could again try using the scott amp..according to isak...may mahihiram sya...so if i want to try it with my mission oks lang..also interested how my mission would perform on tsaudio by corrsty
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jun 23, 2003 at 05:45 PM: I might sell my Scott if I get enough budget to buy a new tube amp. It works well with Mission speakers.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jun 23, 2003 at 06:50 PM: dex,

baka naman mayrong switch para maging selector kung gusto mo gamitin either ss or tubes with the same speakers. ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jun 23, 2003 at 06:57 PM: You can use a speaker selector but it can degrade the sound.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 24, 2003 at 12:01 PM: Dex,

Yan din plan ko to get tube for my M73i tapos cd player pre do you think if i buy surplus cd player at pier ok yun hehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 24, 2003 at 01:06 PM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Jun 24, 2003 at 12:01 PM
Dex,

Yan din plan ko to get tube for my M73i tapos cd player pre do you think if i buy surplus cd player at pier ok yun hehehe

Very critical ang source..so better invest on good cd player.

Di ko pa na try yung tsaudio ni corrsty sa mission ko. ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Jun 25, 2003 at 11:28 AM: Yo guys! Advice needed!

Has anyone ever tested using Mission speakers with Sakura receivers? Coz i was wondering maybe i could start with a simple receiver like Sakura and buy Mission floorstanders for my first HT investment. I already have a xenon-810D which has analog 5.1 rca outputs and will work with Sakura's analog 5.1 inputs.

I plan to eventually complete the whole setup with Mission speakers (surround and center) and replace the Sakura in a year or two with a better receiver. I am also considering the fact that receiver specs change every few months or so (5.1, 6.1, 7.1, THX, etc.) I figured that by the time I buy my next receiver, it might have 15.1 :o already with all the bells and whistles and just sell my Sakura.

Anyway, just need to know if Sakuras will be good enough for now with Missions and if my idea of buying my receiver a few years down the road is a good decision.

P.S.
Am not from manila or anywhere near luzon but we do have dealers here who sell mission, bose, jbl, wharfdale, b & w, etc. i really was considering nirvblakrs custom speakers (some say sound just as good as B&Ws) but going to manila just to audition them is a cost i cant justify for now.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: positive_noise on Jun 25, 2003 at 11:45 AM: Hi Bro,

All I can say is that tutunog 'yan for sure... but the quality ??? sayang lang ang mission speaker pare. baka masunog pa ng sakura ang mission speaker mo. :o ...sayang pare.

pero kung tight budget... it's up to you.

+++++

Positive_Noise!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: av_phile on Jun 25, 2003 at 03:18 PM: Quote from: cousin skeeter on Jun 25, 2003 at 11:28 AM
Yo guys! Advice needed!

Has anyone ever tested using Mission speakers with Sakura receivers? Coz i was wondering maybe i could start with a simple receiver like Sakura and buy Mission floorstanders for my first HT investment. I already have a xenon-810D which has analog 5.1 rca outputs and will work with Sakura's analog 5.1 inputs.

I plan to eventually complete the whole setup with Mission speakers (surround and center) and replace the Sakura in a year or two with a better receiver. I am also considering the fact that receiver specs change every few months or so (5.1, 6.1, 7.1, THX, etc.) I figured that by the time I buy my next receiver, it might have 15.1 :o already with all the bells and whistles and just sell my Sakura.

Anyway, just need to know if Sakuras will be good enough for now with Missions and if my idea of buying my receiver a few years down the road is a good decision.

P.S.
Am not from manila or anywhere near luzon but we do have dealers here who sell mission, bose, jbl, wharfdale, b & w, etc. i really was considering nirvblakrs custom speakers (some say sound just as good as B&Ws) but going to manila just to audition them is a cost i cant justify for now.

Many audiophile gurus on the net would advice us to start with the best speakers we can find and work our way from there. You're likely to follow that route.

Technically and generally, any amp can match any speaker within a range of sensitivty, power and impedance. But whether the Sakura is a SONIC match to the particular mission m70 series, i can't comment on that. Could be wrong, but i'm almost certain most, if not all mission users are not sakura users.

You are probably referring to the mission floorstander m73 rated at 100 watts max. And you want that mated to a Sakura 5.1 receiver. Right? Just to play safe, make sure the amp is no more than 75-80 watts RMS per channel. You don't listen at full volume namn, do you? I believe those speakers' ratings mean they can achieve 100 watts of instantaneous or momentary peaks.

A little math. The Sakura 5.1 probably cost less than 5T SRP. The m73 pair slightly above 12T. A total of 17T. Is that your budget?

If there are no other options within that budget, go ahead, Getting a mission floorstander would yield the best value for your money. Though you could consdier the second-hand market.

The AV/eletronics store near us use a Sakura for their demos for speaker drivers. Don't know the model you have in mind but i recall the spec sheet on one with a THD figure of 1% at rated power. That's not considered audiophile level. Just don't let your volume control go beyond the 12 o'clock position. I heard the Sakura amps are already maxed at that point. And don't max the treble controls as well. Regardless of what amp you use, maxing the treble is known to burn tweeters. You don't want that on your missions before getting a more serious receiver.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Jun 25, 2003 at 04:17 PM: av_phile,

yeah, have no plans maxing the volume out, am not the head banging type. didnt check out the sakura model numbers yet but i will keep in mind the wattage values you gave. 20K is my startup budget which explains why i cant get a good receiver and speakers at the same time. if i used that for a receiver, id have no speaker and ill have to wait a several months again to purchase the floorstanders.

did audition the M73i floorstanders with an onkyo 600 and it sounded great! will audition the sakura+mission combo and compare it with the onkyo+mission setup. i know its a terrible comparison but at least i know what ill be losing getting a sakura. :)

thanks a lot!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Jairus on Jun 25, 2003 at 04:45 PM: Also consider a Yamaha RXV430+Wharf combination, i think it will fit your budget. I saw one of those Sakura amps at Uniwide and MCS, looked at the back and i'm not sure if it has any 5.1 input (just saw L/R analog inputs for CD, DVD, VHS, etc.).

You can also take a look at Marantz 4300+Wharf 8.1, shoot din yan.

Just my 1 cent.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Jun 25, 2003 at 05:01 PM: jairus,

i did consider the wharfs, but am stil inclined to getting missions. one time investment lang ang speakers eh, the receivers usually ina-upgrade once may bagong features na nman. although i dont consider myself an audiophile, i just dont want to have sleepless nights, nagging myself why i didnt get missions in the first place but thanks for the advice :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Dracula on Jun 25, 2003 at 05:14 PM: Skeeter

If you want mission speakers then you can get an m71 or an m70 muna instead of the m73 and a second hand receiver maybe a yamaha, marantz, denon etc...when you have the funds bili ka na lang ng m73 then surrounds na lang yung m71 or m70. You can visit sonny of the home theater he can give you good advice and you can also audition the gears he sells. remember na aside from speakers and receivers you still have to consider cables and stands.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: av_phile on Jun 25, 2003 at 05:38 PM: Skeeter,

Wala bang jap surplus shop sa lugar ninyo? At Port Area in Manila, I hear they sell old onkyos and denons within the same price range as or even cheaper than a new sakura. Since this is just an interim for you, why not consider second hand AV receivers? Personally, a good second hand onkyo, denon or JVC would still be head and shoulders above a sakura.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mojako on Jun 26, 2003 at 03:37 AM: guys,
have you heard about the Mission M3 series? Affordable line daw nila ito? Any available here in the phils?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Mika on Jun 26, 2003 at 06:39 AM: Quote from: dracula on Jun 25, 2003 at 05:14 PM
Skeeter

If you want mission speakers then you can get an m71 or an m70 muna instead of the m73 and a second hand receiver maybe a yamaha, marantz, denon etc...when you have the funds bili ka na lang ng m73 then surrounds na lang yung m71 or m70.

bro skeeter,

i have to agree with dracula... sayang kasi investment mo sa speakers... try sourcing second hand receivers... daming nagdi-dispose especially pag lapit na xmas ;D... you won't regret it ;)

peace
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 26, 2003 at 07:20 AM: Quote from: cousin skeeter on Jun 25, 2003 at 11:28 AM

P.S.
Am not from manila or anywhere near luzon but we do have dealers here who sell mission, bose, jbl, wharfdale, b & w, etc. i really was considering nirvblakrs custom speakers (some say sound just as good as B&Ws) but going to manila just to audition them is a cost i cant justify for now.

Here is the problem why he cant go to sonny tuazon,pier and cant get 2nd hand stuff... ;) best advice i could give you.....save more funds...maybe in 2 to 3 months pwede ka na kumuha ng m73 and entry level receiver..a marantz 4300 will do..that would cost around 27 to 28k depending on the discounts you could get on your dealer in your area.

Or better else come to manila and get 2nd hand stuff...yung ma sa save mo yun na lang gagamitin mo sa pamasahe..baka makakatipid ka pa
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Jun 26, 2003 at 10:34 AM: thanks y'all guys. i went to our dealer here and he said the same thing, better get a receiver to match the speakers than risk busting the speakers.

anyway, when i auditioned their M72i and M73i yesterday with a yamaha receiver, i realized i couldnt settle for a second rate setup. i think ill take dracula's and mika's suggestion, get an M72i muna instead of an M73i and an entry level receiver and use them as rear speakers when i do get the money for the floorstanders. i guess a month or two to save up for the receiver wont hurt. :)

now the next question. since im dedicated to getting missions,whats the best receiver to match them with, specifically the M72i and M73i? i consider myself a 50% music, 50% HT user but i do like my music to sound really clear and bright. my dealer here only has yamaha and onkyo so i wont be able to audition denon, marantz, etc. i know i cant go wrong with a denon 1803 or a marantz 4300 with missions coz ive read so many messages here saying they go well together, but a more detailed description of the sound would really help me a lot in my decision. by the way, i did consider the pioneer vsx D811S but when i read it had a THD of 1%, i realized it wasnt a good receiver, despite its good consumer reviews on the internet.

thanks again for the advice to my prior query! i think im mission-hooked now, hehehe. ill just have to figure out the right receiver.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 26, 2003 at 10:40 AM: Onkyo if you are 50/50...yamaha is more for movies..the sr500 would be good for your m72i....one comment..too much yung m72i for rears kaya kung ako better get the m73i na agad..konti lang naman ang difference nila sa price..i am using m73i and m70 for surrounds at m7c1 sa center
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Blade on Jun 26, 2003 at 10:57 AM: agree with bro dexterc...
get the m73i then just save up for an AVR...
dika lugi sa yamaha when it comes to HT, pero if you like 50/50 music/movies mas ok ang Onkyo...

yeah... missions....

blade. 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Jun 26, 2003 at 11:19 AM: dexterc,

i couldnt notice the difference in the sound between the m72i and the m73i. maybe i just didnt listen long enough. do the m73is really sound better? better bass maybe?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jun 26, 2003 at 01:41 PM: Is it ok to use M7ds as a center-rear speaker for DD-EX/DTS-ES setup?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Garp on Jun 26, 2003 at 03:19 PM: Quote from: cousin skeeter on Jun 26, 2003 at 10:34 AM
thanks y'all guys. i went to our dealer here and he said the same thing, better get a receiver to match the speakers than risk busting the speakers.

anyway, when i auditioned their M72i and M73i yesterday with a yamaha receiver, i realized i couldnt settle for a second rate setup. i think ill take dracula's and mika's suggestion, get an M72i muna instead of an M73i and an entry level receiver and use them as rear speakers when i do get the money for the floorstanders. i guess a month or two to save up for the receiver wont hurt. :)

now the next question. since im dedicated to getting missions,whats the best receiver to match them with, specifically the M72i and M73i? i consider myself a 50% music, 50% HT user but i do like my music to sound really clear and bright. my dealer here only has yamaha and onkyo so i wont be able to audition denon, marantz, etc. i know i cant go wrong with a denon 1803 or a marantz 4300 with missions coz ive read so many messages here saying they go well together, but a more detailed description of the sound would really help me a lot in my decision. by the way, i did consider the pioneer vsx D811S but when i read it had a THD of 1%, i realized it wasnt a good receiver, despite its good consumer reviews on the internet.

thanks again for the advice to my prior query! i think im mission-hooked now, hehehe. ill just have to figure out the right receiver.

Agree with dexterc and blade. If you buy the M72i, you'd want to put them on stands because putting them on shelves or table limits your placement flexibility and so you'll find it hard to optimize the sound based on your room acoustics. Get the m73i--its rougly the price of the m72i + stands and you get slightly more bass (in theory at least kasi bigger cabinet size).

As for the receiver, do you really want your music bright? ;D That's your choice of course but if its bright music you want then get the yamaha. For a mellower presentation, the onkyo will do fine.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jun 26, 2003 at 10:12 PM: Quote from: JT on Jun 26, 2003 at 01:41 PM
Is it ok to use M7ds as a center-rear speaker for DD-EX/DTS-ES setup?

I think its better to use the M7ds for side speakers.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Jun 27, 2003 at 10:11 AM: levi,

good day! ive a question concerning your denon 1803. although am planning to buy missions, and i know that you use b&w speakers, but id like your opinion on denons performance. what are the pros compared to other receivers in the price range? any cons that i should know about?

i dont have the luxury of auditioning denons since our dealer here does not keep them in stock and am planning to have a friend in manila to buy for me coz here it sells at nearly 30K, whereas its on sale there for 21K.

your opinion on this matter will be kept in high regard since youve been into HT for a long time, and am just starting out :)

thanks in advance!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Dracula on Jun 27, 2003 at 12:05 PM: Quote from: JT on Jun 26, 2003 at 01:41 PM
Is it ok to use M7ds as a center-rear speaker for DD-EX/DTS-ES setup?

Use the m7c1 na lang for the surround back
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jun 27, 2003 at 01:39 PM: Quote from: cousin skeeter on Jun 27, 2003 at 10:11 AM
levi,

good day! ive a question concerning your denon 1803. although am planning to buy missions, and i know that you use b&w speakers, but id like your opinion on denons performance. what are the pros compared to other receivers in the price range? any cons that i should know about?

i dont have the luxury of auditioning denons since our dealer here does not keep them in stock and am planning to have a friend in manila to buy for me coz here it sells at nearly 30K, whereas its on sale there for 21K.

your opinion on this matter will be kept in high regard since youve been into HT for a long time, and am just starting out :)

thanks in advance!

OT but I'll answer anyway.

Its a very good receiver for the price. I got mine for 24.5T but now its down to 21T. It has everything I need and the sound is very good. The only thing lacking is the multiroom which the US model has. Anyway for its price range you cant get a better receiver. The HK 5500 is more expensive, I prefer the Denon compared to the Onkyo 600 or Yamaha 630, The HK3550 is a lower model and so on. Just my 1 cent
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jun 27, 2003 at 03:33 PM: Quote from: dracula on Jun 27, 2003 at 12:05 PM
Use the m7c1 na lang for the surround back

Balak ko kasi heto:
M72i - front
M7c1-center front
M70- rear
M7ds-center rear

Meron na ako nung center at rear speakers, bibili ako nung remaining sa katapusan. Parang magandang kasing tignan yung M7ds sa gitna (likod) kaysa M7c1.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 27, 2003 at 03:42 PM: Quote from: JT on Jun 27, 2003 at 03:33 PM
Balak ko kasi heto:
M72i - front
M7c1-center front
M70- rear
M7ds-center rear

Meron na ako nung center at rear speakers, bibili ako nung remaining sa katapusan. Parang magandang kasing tignan yung M7ds sa gitna (likod) kaysa M7c1.

bro looks is great but its the sound that matters most in this hobby ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jun 28, 2003 at 03:38 AM: Quote from: JT on Jun 27, 2003 at 03:33 PM
Balak ko kasi heto:
M72i - front
M7c1-center front
M70- rear
M7ds-center rear

Meron na ako nung center at rear speakers, bibili ako nung remaining sa katapusan. Parang magandang kasing tignan yung M7ds sa gitna (likod) kaysa M7c1.

Pare,

Use the m70 for the rear surround then the M7ds for the side speakers.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 02, 2003 at 10:24 AM: question: i'm currently using m71 for surrounds (5.1 set-up) , parang nanghihinayang ako: i'm thinking of doing a downgrade to m70 for surrounds - will there be a big difference?

ty
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jul 02, 2003 at 01:51 PM: Iceman,

For Surround M71 to M70 I think no difference in sound quality but a little cguro in volume IMHO... M71 is good enough for fronts.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 02, 2003 at 01:59 PM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Jul 02, 2003 at 01:51 PM
IMHO... M71 is good enough for fronts.

oo nga eh - but the question is, do i sell the m71 and buy m70? or save for m70 and use the m71 for an audio set-up?

aaahhh SARS ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jul 02, 2003 at 02:00 PM: Quote from: iceman90a on Jul 02, 2003 at 01:59 PM
oo nga eh - but the question is, do i sell the m71 and buy m70? or save for m70 and use the m71 for an audio set-up?

aaahhh SARS ;)

Buy m70 na lang...you could still use the m71 for surround while saving for m70 kung wala ka pang budget ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 02, 2003 at 02:16 PM: magkano na ba M70 ngayon? ???
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jul 02, 2003 at 02:48 PM: Im also interesed to know kung available pa ba diyan at magkano itong mga mission models na ito:

M72i
M70
M7c1 (silver color)
m7ds (silver color)

Di na available dito sa Singapore, M38 series na ang binebenta dito.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: BuLLeT on Jul 02, 2003 at 03:03 PM: Approximate Market value in PHP

M73i   12,500
M7C1i   6,400
M70   6,900
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 02, 2003 at 03:34 PM: Quote from: BuLLet on Jul 02, 2003 at 03:03 PM
Approximate Market value in PHP

M73i   12,500
M7C1i   6,400
M70   6,900

thanks! :)

mahal na pala! 7500 lang kuha dati ng m71 ko sa sights & sounds (oct 2002)

hmm... esep esep
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: akyatbundok on Jul 02, 2003 at 03:39 PM: mga sir, m7 series ba ang "best buy" ngayon ng mission? seems to be getting alot of discussion. interested na tuloy ako esp. after i saw the pricing posted by bullet... i saw m5 series sa shangrila last weekend, and before that they displayed the 78x series. anybody heard these?

matagal ko na plano mag upgrade pero lagi ko iniisip kung worth it ba gumastos para sa upgrade.. baka kasi hindi naman ganun kalaki ang improvement dahil nasa parehong class in terms of size.

i'm using acoustic energy aegis one... 2 pairs + 1 center powered by denon receiver. has anybody heard both ae & mission? worth it ba yung 25k+ to make the switch?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jul 02, 2003 at 03:45 PM: Quote from: akyatbundok on Jul 02, 2003 at 03:39 PM
mga sir, m7 series ba ang "best buy" ngayon ng mission? seems to be getting alot of discussion. interested na tuloy ako esp. after i saw the pricing posted by bullet... i saw m5 series sa shangrila last weekend, and before that they displayed the 78x series. anybody heard these?

matagal ko na plano mag upgrade pero lagi ko iniisip kung worth it ba gumastos para sa upgrade.. baka kasi hindi naman ganun kalaki ang improvement dahil nasa parehong class in terms of size.

i'm using acoustic energy aegis one... 2 pairs + 1 center powered by denon receiver. has anybody heard both ae & mission? worth it ba yung 25k+ to make the switch?

Let your ears decide...kung konti or malaki ang difference ng present set up mo sa mission set up...dun ka lang makaka pag decide..ako definitely a major upgrade...from satellite speakers to mission ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 02, 2003 at 04:12 PM: Quote from: dexterc on Jul 02, 2003 at 03:45 PM
..ako definitely a major upgrade...from satellite speakers to mission ;)

ako din from wharfedale diamond 8.1 to mission - malaki difference :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: YrNeH on Jul 03, 2003 at 10:31 AM: hello just a question, is anyone here using mission m74i or have auditioned it. how does it sound and how much is it? thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: av_phile on Jul 03, 2003 at 10:45 AM: Quote from: YrNeH on Jul 03, 2003 at 10:31 AM
hello just a question, is anyone here using mission m74i or have auditioned it. how does it sound and how much is it? thanks

I recall it was priced at around P18t at Tech Central Makati Cinema Square, a month ago. Negotiable pa ata. As for sound, i can only assume it sounds better than an m73i which i auditioned. And the m73 is already excellent. Suggest you check the internet for reviews, try googling the brand.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jul 03, 2003 at 10:47 AM: Quote from: av_phile on Jul 03, 2003 at 10:45 AM
I recall it was priced at around P18t at Tech Central Makati Cinema Square, a month ago. Negotiable pa ata. As for sound, i can only assume it sounds better than an m73i which i auditioned. And the m73 is already excellent. Suggest you check the internet for reviews, try googling the brand.

Hear it then you will decide..i for one prefer the m73 than m74
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: av_phile on Jul 03, 2003 at 03:33 PM: At Tech Central, the carry both, so you can audition and compare.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Skabyol on Jul 05, 2003 at 10:56 AM: Check these reviews for the M74

http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_print.asp?ID=2136

http://www.home-entertainment.co.uk/grouptest_print.asp?GroupID=1551&ArticleID=1544

You can read some comments of hong kong audio enthusiasts here. If you can read chinese mas oks...(i can't, too bad)

http://www.review33.com/review/review.php?reference=mission_m74

you can also do a search for Mission M74 in www.avforums.com.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jul 06, 2003 at 11:00 PM: Quote from: levi on Jun 28, 2003 at 03:38 AM
Pare,
Use the m70 for the rear surround then the M7ds for the side speakers.

I did not managed to get M72i, M7c1 (silver) and M7ds this weekend . Di na talaga available dito sa Singapore so I used my rear (not the rear shown in the tv ... hehehe) speakers as my front in the meantime. Oks naman ang resulta eh. Sana meron pa akong mabili diyan sa Pinas ng mission m7 series pag uwi ko ng August.

(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UADLAqYXA7v*veMdy2fBS5fIylTreFo2D3FN4ktIWo5covWhnMDI7MoyC539*UIB0qXysgkNtedSEbgKHj1m5KrHgFWVzSkq7MOAey303SLTP2ShwrtU5XSCtBkAcLQZ/New%20Living%20Room3.jpg?dc=4675429148512693631)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Superman on Jul 06, 2003 at 11:45 PM: bro. JT,

sent you a pm...thanks! 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: YrNeH on Jul 07, 2003 at 08:02 AM: thanks guys for the replies. ang mura pala dyan ng m74, taga ang presyo dito halos dinoble. anyway i'm not in a hurry to upgrade to floorstanders. pero pag nakakita ng best deal baka atakihin na naman ng SARS. thanks again. :)

cheers
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: haribon on Jul 07, 2003 at 08:18 AM: Mission Fanatics,
try to audition the monitror audio (spectrum), you will definitely change your heart over mission :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jul 07, 2003 at 01:20 PM: Quote from: haribon on Jul 07, 2003 at 08:18 AM
Mission Fanatics,
try to audition the monitror audio (spectrum), you will definitely change your heart over mission :)

haribon,

I definitely wouldnt have a change of heart over my mission speakers. I auditioned the Monitor Audio at Archi Audio last week and was really impressed with its performance (Ma-treble nga lang, siguro it tones down after break in period) ;D. Notwithstanding such impression, it didnt win me because the M70 series of Mission and the bronze series of Monitor Audio are at par with each other in terms of sound quality. I like more the driver of the mission than that of the Monitor Audio. Mission is 8 ohms while MA is 6 ohms. MA is more expensive than Mission. All in all, i wont call it an upgrade. These are the things that wont justify my change of heart.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jul 08, 2003 at 06:57 AM: Quote from: julsp168 on Jul 07, 2003 at 01:20 PM
haribon,

I definitely wouldnt have a change of heart over my mission speakers. I auditioned the Monitor Audio at Archi Audio last week and was really impressed with its performance. Notwithstanding such impression, it didnt win me because the M70 series of Mission and the bronze series of Monitor Audio are at par with each other in terms of sound quality. I like more the driver of the mission than that of the Monitor Audio. Mission is 8 ohms while MA is 6 ohms. The MA is more expensive than Mission. All in all, i wont call it an upgrade. These are the things that wont justify my change of heart.

Well said....mission is right on the money ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Jul 09, 2003 at 01:12 PM: whats the cheapest price for the m73i right now? where?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jul 09, 2003 at 02:54 PM: Try this HT EQUIPMENT CLEARANCE SALE! (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=14220)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: av_phile on Jul 09, 2003 at 04:35 PM: Quote from: cousin skeeter on Jul 09, 2003 at 01:12 PM
whats the cheapest price for the m73i right now? where?

Almost 2 months ago, Spectra and Tech Central can go down to 12.5T for an m73i, black ash.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: akyatbundok on Jul 09, 2003 at 06:55 PM: i called them up today.. they said m73i is now 13k. pwede pa kaya tawaran yun to 12.5k?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Philander on Jul 09, 2003 at 07:09 PM: Quote from: akyatbundok on Jul 09, 2003 at 06:55 PM
i called them up today.. they said m73i is now 13k. pwede pa kaya tawaran yun to 12.5k?

Yes, base price if I recall is Php 12, 350.00
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: haribon on Jul 10, 2003 at 10:03 PM: I just acquired a hell of a floor stander in m73i. You can have it lower than Php12,350 in HP @image-HP. sulit na sulit hehehe may libre pa kong cable.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatness on Jul 11, 2003 at 09:25 AM: haribon,

question lang po, what made you decide in getting the m73i over the monitor audio?

thanks... ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: AVDude on Jul 11, 2003 at 10:13 AM: Quote from: iceman90a on Jul 02, 2003 at 04:12 PM
ako din from wharfedale diamond 8.1 to mission - malaki difference :)

hi iceman90a

anong amp yun gamit mo nun nag compare ka ng 8.1 to mission..what model of mission did you get..am planning to get an audio system and am considering mission, dynaudio or b&w
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: pukx on Jul 11, 2003 at 11:20 AM: Quote from: haribon on Jul 10, 2003 at 10:03 PM
I just acquired a hell of a floor stander in m73i. You can have it lower than Php12,350 in HP @image-HP. sulit na sulit hehehe may libre pa kong cable.

heheh... haribon, kailan ba natin i-break in yang mission mo...? isang Torres 10 lang ayos-na-ayos na.... ;D sulit talaga yang M73i + HK mo... nga pala next week ko na lang soli yung cure (accoustic) mo...

pukx 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 11, 2003 at 12:46 PM: Quote from: AVDude on Jul 11, 2003 at 10:13 AM
hi iceman90a

anong amp yun gamit mo nun nag compare ka ng 8.1 to mission..what model of mission did you get..am planning to get an audio system and am considering mission, dynaudio or b&w

audition: yamaha (not sure exact model receiver - yung mga higher than 430)

at home: marantz sr4200

i now have m74 for fronts, m71 for surrounds and am selling my m7c1 center

:)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: haribon on Jul 12, 2003 at 12:08 AM: Quote from: pukx on Jul 11, 2003 at 11:20 AM
heheh... haribon, kailan ba natin i-break in yang mission mo...? isang Torres 10 lang ayos-na-ayos na.... ;D sulit talaga yang M73i + HK mo... nga pala next week ko na lang soli yung cure (accoustic) mo...

pukx 8)
cge, pm mo na lang ako. subukan din natin yung cut throat island mo dts ba yun? hehehe ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: haribon on Jul 12, 2003 at 12:27 AM: Quote from: greatness on Jul 11, 2003 at 09:25 AM
haribon,

question lang po, what made you decide in getting the m73i over the monitor audio?

thanks... ;D
greatness,
matagal ko rin pinag isipan yan, di basta basta talaga mag decide, finally after drowning a lot of SMB light hehehe. i decided to choose mission over monitor audio. frankly speaking napabilib talaga ako sa B2 ng monitor audio, okay ang trebble at sound quality pero di rin naman kasi nalalayo sa mission. Personally, I choose mission because of it's crisp sound, clarity, transparency, good bass depth without an accompanying 'boom', and the most impt for me is it's a floor stander & 8ohms compared to B2 and of course much more economical since i don't have to buy a speaker stand (additional cost). As far as I know I made the right decision and m73i really worth buying and sound quality is improving everytime i used it! take your time in deciding which speaker will suit up your listening style. mahirap papali palit magastos. hehehe.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jul 12, 2003 at 12:03 PM: Quote from: haribon on Jul 12, 2003 at 12:27 AM
greatness,
matagal ko rin pinag isipan yan, di basta basta talaga mag decide, finally after drowning a lot of SMB light hehehe. i decided to choose mission over monitor audio. frankly speaking napabilib talaga ako sa B2 ng monitor audio, okay ang trebble at sound quality pero di rin naman kasi nalalayo sa mission. Personally, I choose mission because of it's crisp sound, clarity, transparency, good bass depth without an accompanying 'boom', and the most impt for me is it's a floor stander & 8ohms compared to B2 and of course much more economical since i don't have to buy a speaker stand (additional cost). As far as I know I made the right decision and m73i really worth buying and sound quality is improving everytime i used it! take your time in deciding which speaker will suit up your listening style. mahirap papali palit magastos. hehehe.

Congrats! you probably didnt choose the best but the decision you made certainly wont fail you. :) Each time your mission speakers work, you couldnt help but respect and love them more........more and more! hehehehe ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatness on Jul 12, 2003 at 06:27 PM: haribon'

well said...... thanks......
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: j_albert22 on Jul 12, 2003 at 10:18 PM: Quote from: haribon on Jul 12, 2003 at 12:27 AM
greatness,
matagal ko rin pinag isipan yan, di basta basta talaga mag decide, finally after drowning a lot of SMB light hehehe. i decided to choose mission over monitor audio. frankly speaking napabilib talaga ako sa B2 ng monitor audio, okay ang trebble at sound quality pero di rin naman kasi nalalayo sa mission. Personally, I choose mission because of it's crisp sound, clarity, transparency, good bass depth without an accompanying 'boom', and the most impt for me is it's a floor stander & 8ohms compared to B2 and of course much more economical since i don't have to buy a speaker stand (additional cost). As far as I know I made the right decision and m73i really worth buying and sound quality is improving everytime i used it! take your time in deciding which speaker will suit up your listening style. mahirap papali palit magastos. hehehe.

hehehe bibili rin ako nyan yong m74i
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jul 18, 2003 at 07:09 PM: Quote from: j_albert22 on Jul 12, 2003 at 10:18 PM
hehehe bibili rin ako nyan yong m74i

give us a review pag nakabili ka na ng m74i :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: acg on Jul 20, 2003 at 09:42 AM: I recently got a pair of mission m73i's and I just want to know if spikes are supposed to be included with the speakers. I noticed there are screw holes at the bottom of the speakers. Or are they a separate purchase? I'm asking because on their website, the picture of the speakers show spikes on them and seller said no spikes are included. Did you guys get spikes along with your speakers? Also, what are spikes for? Can someone please help me out on this?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Mika on Jul 20, 2003 at 11:24 AM: Quote from: acg on Jul 20, 2003 at 09:42 AM
I recently got a pair of mission m73i's and I just want to know if spikes are supposed to be included with the speakers. I noticed there are screw holes at the bottom of the speakers. Or are they a separate purchase? I'm asking because on their website, the picture of the speakers show spikes on them and seller said no spikes are included. Did you guys get spikes along with your speakers? Also, what are spikes for? Can someone please help me out on this?

The package for m73i includes (per loudspeaker):
a. 4 spiked screws, with stopper
b. 1 pc of foam - for plugging the port
c. 1 pc metal strip - to bridge the bi-wiring
c. owner's manual, with warranty card

The spikes are suppose to isolate your speaker from any unwanted floor vibrations. This would improve the sound of the speaker, as claimed by others. This will depend actually on your personal sound preference.

8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: acg on Jul 20, 2003 at 07:29 PM: Thanks very much, Mika. Really appreciate your helping me out here. 4 spiked screws included? Hmmm... & Hmmm... ???. Well, thanks very much for the information. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jul 20, 2003 at 11:24 PM: Did you check the Styro baka nakatago lang spikes?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: acg on Jul 21, 2003 at 06:30 AM: I did check the styro and no sign of any spikes. Must have forgotten to put it in after checking the speakers. I guess i'll just fashion some from stainless steel bolts if I can't recover them.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Mika on Jul 21, 2003 at 06:36 AM: Quote from: acg on Jul 21, 2003 at 06:30 AM
I did check the styro and no sign of any spikes. Must have forgotten to put it in after checking the speakers. I guess i'll just fashion some from stainless steel bolts if I can't recover them.

hope you find your spikes...

spikes or no spikes... congrats on your purchase, you'll get your moneys worth... just break her in gently ;)

8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: acg on Jul 21, 2003 at 06:50 AM: Thanks, Mika. :)they're quite nice indeed.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jul 21, 2003 at 12:03 PM: acg,

To give improvements to the bass of m73..try to put some sand inside it...nasa instrucion manual yun...mine was great..just got it last march..now it was totally breaked in..smooth bass that even i dont have subs yet..it was enough for me

dex
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 21, 2003 at 12:35 PM: Quote from: acg on Jul 21, 2003 at 06:30 AM
I did check the styro and no sign of any spikes. Must have forgotten to put it in after checking the speakers. I guess i'll just fashion some from stainless steel bolts if I can't recover them.

hi - can't you go back to the store where you bought it?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jul 21, 2003 at 03:12 PM: yup the spikes are in the styro...keep also the foam ..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: acg on Jul 21, 2003 at 05:45 PM: Well, its been a while now and I just realized it now. On top of it, I asked my brother to buy it for me and don't want to bother him much coz he's quite busy at work. Oh well, might as well chalk it up to experience. It's such a bummer.
Dexterc, yep, I'm going to fill 'em up with sand just as you advised. I do like the sound quality even without sand yet. Not fatiguing to listen to. hopefully it'll get even better with sand in them. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jul 21, 2003 at 07:30 PM: Where did you buy your speakers? Try asking Sonny Tuason of The Hometheater if he can order for you. Another option would be to send Mission an email, they might give you free spikes.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: acg on Jul 21, 2003 at 08:31 PM: Hi! Levi,
I'll have to ask my bro where he got them coz I really have no idea. I didn't bother to ask. But he said he'll try to see if he could get them. I'll try the options you suggested. Thanks very much.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kimera on Jul 29, 2003 at 09:16 AM: anybody has the Mission M74?

im thinking of getting this set to be paired with either a Denon1803 or Marantz5300 (or the Denon 2802 again if i have the extra)

my room is quite small, 9ft by14ft only, dont you think it would be "boomy" or just about right? or maybe lacks the bass? coz im thinking of not getting a sub yet until i get a bigger room

cheers!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 29, 2003 at 10:06 AM: Quote from: kimera on Jul 29, 2003 at 09:16 AM
anybody has the Mission M74?

im thinking of getting this set to be paired with either a Denon1803 or Marantz5300 (or the Denon 2802 again if i have the extra)

my room is quite small, 9ft by14ft only, dont you think it would be "boomy" or just about right? or maybe lacks the bass? coz im thinking of not getting a sub yet until i get a bigger room

cheers!

hi - i'm using a pair of m74's for my fronts - driven by a marantz sr4200. the sound is great!

i already have them backed into a corner but no untoward boominess is heard by my amateur ears :)

just as long as you dont stick them against the wall i guess you'll be fine. for music - i listen with the subwoofer off (usually)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Jul 29, 2003 at 11:38 AM: I am also a proud owner of m74, paired with Onkyo SR700, linked by ixos all the way. If you want to tame the boominess, only if it will happen, just plug the foam that comes with it. And i agree with mdsaint about avoiding putting it against the wall because the M70 series love to play in a free space. I also love listening to it without the subwoofer in music. Personally, what is critical is the correct use/match of interconnects and speaker wires to attain the kind of sound you wanted.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jul 30, 2003 at 12:24 PM: m7c1(i) owners..what speaker size do you set your centers? kaya ba nito large? or better small? thanks the i put kasi my m73i sa large..and also my (sorry wharf sya 8.1) as large din eh.. anytips?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Jul 30, 2003 at 12:57 PM: Hi mdsaint3!

I also use Mission m74, 7c2, 71, and 7c1 (rear center). Personally, in HT, i find it more enveloping and realistic if all speakers are set to small. Mas maganda ang sound imaging. You try it, set the front to large and the rest to small and compare the sound imaging when all speakers are set to small. Tears of the Sun DVD might be good test DVD for channel separation.

only my personal opinion.

thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jul 30, 2003 at 03:36 PM: Quote from: mdsaint3 on Jul 30, 2003 at 12:24 PM
m7c1(i) owners..what speaker size do you set your centers? kaya ba nito large? or better small? thanks the i put kasi my m73i sa large..and also my (sorry wharf sya 8.1) as large din eh.. anytips?

only your floorstanders are set to large. all others are set to small.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: marty_e on Jul 30, 2003 at 04:47 PM: I think that setting your speakers to small simply sets your crossover to a higher low signal threshold and passes it on to the sub. ::)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jul 30, 2003 at 05:52 PM: Quote from: ganjaman on Jul 30, 2003 at 04:47 PM
I think that setting your speakers to small simply sets your crossover to a higher low signal threshold and passes it on to the sub. ::)

thats why small speakers like m70 and m7c1 should be set to small only because their bass might over punch, thus may overlap and affect the clarity of mid and high signals. Anyway, sub can better handle very low frequencies than small speakers. The floorstanders, IMO, should be set to large because they too, next to sub, can handle low low signals and ofcourse to obtain better bass distribution.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jul 30, 2003 at 07:13 PM: but even if i set the centers and rears to large..and my sub mode accepts low frequencies of the main speaker.. my cut off ba for the center and surrounds? or full range pa rin sya? kasi diba if i "large" mo yun front then yun sub accepts lf from l+r and lfe.. nacu cutoff yun bass sa fronts right? im just wondering if same goes for the rest of the speakers... im more concerned also of the rear speakers.. kasi wouldnt it be better if large sya..if kaya naman nya.. for added bass sa rears? or its not necessary anymore?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jul 31, 2003 at 09:24 AM: Quote from: mdsaint3 on Jul 30, 2003 at 07:13 PM
but even if i set the centers and rears to large..and my sub mode accepts low frequencies of the main speaker.. my cut off ba for the center and surrounds? or full range pa rin sya? kasi diba if i "large" mo yun front then yun sub accepts lf from l+r and lfe.. nacu cutoff yun bass sa fronts right? im just wondering if same goes for the rest of the speakers... im more concerned also of the rear speakers.. kasi wouldnt it be better if large sya..if kaya naman nya.. for added bass sa rears? or its not necessary anymore?

i dont find it necessary. if you think your surround speakers can handle the signals appropriate for large speakers and that they produce better sound than when set to small, then its ok.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kimera on Jul 31, 2003 at 10:29 AM: Quote from: mdsaint3 on Jul 30, 2003 at 07:13 PM
but even if i set the centers and rears to large..and my sub mode accepts low frequencies of the main speaker.. my cut off ba for the center and surrounds? or full range pa rin sya? kasi diba if i "large" mo yun front then yun sub accepts lf from l+r and lfe.. nacu cutoff yun bass sa fronts right? im just wondering if same goes for the rest of the speakers... im more concerned also of the rear speakers.. kasi wouldnt it be better if large sya..if kaya naman nya.. for added bass sa rears? or its not necessary anymore?

i-set mo ang crossover freq sa receiver mo and also sa sub so that you wont accidentally feed your "small" spkrs low freq....you dont need bass on the rears (unless your rear spkrs have bright trebles), the subs should do the trick since it is non-directional, it should fill your listening space

but your M74 should be set to large since capable sya and para mas maganda yung crossover transition from mid-level bass to low-level bass
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jul 31, 2003 at 01:58 PM: thanks guys..made my adjustements na..took me a while .. 8.1 can handle the lows but it sounds thicker compared to the m70i series speakers when on full range.. so what i did was put it on small so at least humabol ng konti sa sound ng m70is..pero laki parin talga diff.. im so happy with my m70i series purchase :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sebman on Jul 31, 2003 at 02:05 PM: Quote from: mdsaint3 on Jul 31, 2003 at 01:58 PM
thanks guys..made my adjustements na..took me a while .. 8.1 can handle the lows but it sounds thicker compared to the m70i series speakers when on full range.. so what i did was put it on small so at least humabol ng konti sa sound ng m70is..pero laki parin talga diff.. im so happy with my m70i series purchase :)

sir alfie.. layo ba talaga ng mission compared to wharfedale kahit you are using HK avr? ano sir comparison between 8.3 to m73i? night and day ba? thanks sir
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jul 31, 2003 at 02:49 PM: night and day !!!! clarity , bass big diff
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: j_albert22 on Jul 31, 2003 at 07:38 PM: sebman parang pinagcompare mo yong PBA natin at NBA a hehehehe ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: j_albert22 on Jul 31, 2003 at 07:40 PM: seb konting tiis lang makabibili ka rin para satisfy ka agad ;D ;D ;D at wala nang regrets...........
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: haribon on Jul 31, 2003 at 08:19 PM: sebman,
Take your time before buying. best is to audition with brands you want to buy then decide or you may end up upgrading in the near future hehehe. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Jul 31, 2003 at 08:43 PM: sebman diba narinig mo yun onkyo ko at hk? well sa speakers parang ganun wharfs yun onkyo at hk yun mission..hehe hirap explain eh
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sebman on Aug 01, 2003 at 08:57 AM: thanks guys... ganda naman nung mga comparison.. ;) goodbye wharfedale.. hello mission..... ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 01, 2003 at 10:29 AM: Best shop to buy mission speakers?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Superman on Aug 01, 2003 at 10:46 AM: Quote from: presars on Aug 01, 2003 at 10:29 AM
Best shop to buy mission speakers?

try sonny tuazon (the home theater) and rene rivo...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 01, 2003 at 11:27 AM: Any idea on the SRP for the m70 series?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: BuLLeT on Aug 01, 2003 at 01:01 PM: pre sars,

You can try going back a few pages and you can find the SRP of the M70 series mentioned several times and the contact numbers of the retailers.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 01, 2003 at 02:33 PM: Thanks. Its kinda hard kasi to go back threads... nakakahilo. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: BuLLeT on Aug 01, 2003 at 04:41 PM: Approximate Prices in Php

M73i 12,500
M7C1i 6,400
M70 6,900

I got the following for under 30K

M73i
M7C2
M71
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 01, 2003 at 04:59 PM: thanks sa info bullet! much appreciated. 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: j_albert22 on Aug 02, 2003 at 03:25 AM: try to go in Image harrison plaza mas mura kasya makati my prend got m73i for 12,200 only and may free pang cable ;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 02, 2003 at 08:29 AM: Albert,

Salamat sa info! :)

Quote from: j_albert22 on Aug 02, 2003 at 03:25 AM
try to go in Image harrison plaza mas mura kasya makati my prend got m73i for 12,200 only and may free pang cable ;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: j_albert22 on Aug 02, 2003 at 07:21 PM: no problemo ;) ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: De Niro on Aug 04, 2003 at 03:06 AM: Quote from: Superman on Aug 01, 2003 at 10:46 AM
and rene rivo...
Uuyyyyy! Sikat na si Rene.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: yep119 on Aug 05, 2003 at 09:56 AM: Where can I audition Mission (M70 series) speakers connected to an HK2550 receiver? ???
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 05, 2003 at 09:57 AM: not sure if archi audio has missions..pero spectra din best bet mo..hehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sebman on Aug 05, 2003 at 01:18 PM: mission users.. needs your suggestion.. have you experienced playing rock music on your m73i speakers.. would rock music such as metallica,guns and roses or nirvana sound good with it? btw would connect it to an HK avr... thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Aug 05, 2003 at 05:14 PM: Quote from: sebman on Aug 05, 2003 at 01:18 PM
mission users.. needs your suggestion.. have you experienced playing rock music on your m73i speakers.. would rock music such as metallica,guns and roses or nirvana sound good with it? btw would connect it to an HK avr... thanks

had m73 before - upgraded to m74's. huwag ka mag alala - hindi mapupunit iyan ;D

HARVESTER OF SORROW!!!!!!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 05, 2003 at 08:32 PM: big diff ba ang m73 sa 74?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: De Niro on Aug 06, 2003 at 01:15 AM: Don't expect Mission Speakers to deliver the sound quality your looking on Rock Music. kung ganon sounds mo mag JBL or Bose Speakers ka. Mission Speakers kasi are more on clarity ang dating hindi pang-disco. Pero sa HT ok naman sya . . .
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: instinct311 on Aug 06, 2003 at 09:00 AM: mga dude bigay nyo naman sa akin number ng hyperaudio landline ha, and mga dealer ng mission speaker kasi bibili akong m72 and m70 thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Aug 06, 2003 at 09:09 AM: Quote from: mdsaint3 on Aug 05, 2003 at 08:32 PM
big diff ba ang m73 sa 74?

delikado mga tanong na ganito... ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 06, 2003 at 09:45 AM: just curious what made you decide to change :) Im perfectly happy with the m73i at the moment..ehhe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Aug 06, 2003 at 09:56 AM: Quote from: mdsaint3 on Aug 06, 2003 at 09:45 AM
just curious what made you decide to change :) Im perfectly happy with the m73i at the moment..ehhe

an opportunity was presented - and i took it ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sebman on Aug 06, 2003 at 10:25 AM: Quote from: mdsaint3 on Aug 06, 2003 at 09:45 AM
just curious what made you decide to change :) Im perfectly happy with the m73i at the moment..ehhe

kala ko sir mdsaint3.. upgrade na agad e.. ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: theman on Aug 07, 2003 at 09:29 AM: guys any info or comments on mission cinema 6, speaker package with mission 70 and 70ASE as subwoofer being sold in uk for 150 pounds or less that 13.1k!!! observed that the recommended amplifier is 20 - 50 watts per channel. does that mean that it cannot be used even with yamaha 430 with a power rating of 80 watts per channel? di ba the rating of the speaker should be higher than the receiver?

able to put the link of the mission and the online store(richer sound). may mura rin sa uk!!! wala ang price pala pero sa hyperfi 150 pounds lang sya. you could go

http://www.mission.co.uk/product/cinema6/cinema6.htm
http://www.richersounds.co.uk/index.php?f=itemlist.php&c=1306

check this online store. you could download the price through acrobat file.

http://www.hyperfi.co.uk/avspkpack.html

both richer sounds and hypefi are advertised in the what hi fi magazine!!!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Aug 08, 2003 at 05:03 PM: Quote from: instinct311 on Aug 06, 2003 at 09:00 AM
mga dude bigay nyo naman sa akin number ng hyperaudio landline ha, and mga dealer ng mission speaker kasi bibili akong m72 and m70 thanks

02-8325710 rene rivo
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kimera on Aug 08, 2003 at 11:49 PM: Quote from: theman on Aug 07, 2003 at 09:29 AM
guys any info or comments on mission cinema 6, speaker package with mission 70 and 70ASE as subwoofer being sold in uk for 150 pounds or less that 13.1k!!! observed that the recommended amplifier is 20 - 50 watts per channel. does that mean that it cannot be used even with yamaha 430 with a power rating of 80 watts per channel? di ba the rating of the speaker should be higher than the receiver?

able to put the link of the mission and the online store(richer sound). may mura rin sa uk!!! wala ang price pala pero sa hyperfi 150 pounds lang sya. you could go

http://www.mission.co.uk/product/cinema6/cinema6.htm
http://www.richersounds.co.uk/index.php?f=itemlist.php&c=1306

check this online store. you could download the price through acrobat file.

http://www.hyperfi.co.uk/avspkpack.html

both richer sounds and hypefi are advertised in the what hi fi magazine!!!

pre are you from the UK too?

i buy most of my stuff at hyperfi and richersounds.....richersounds sell them really cheap esp when its on clearance....try to look at www.superfi.co.uk too
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Aug 11, 2003 at 01:08 PM: mga bossing, yung M70 / M71 oks lang ba for fronts? Also, do they have both physical dimensions? What's the difference between them.

Lastly, can anyone be friendly enough to share most latest market prices for them?

many thanks !
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: theman on Aug 11, 2003 at 01:14 PM: kimera, i am based here in makati. just browsed the uk magazine what hi fi to know how much are the products in sale there.

i may be in our head office next year which is based in europe for some training. since i have a friend based in london, i could passed by their place and buy my audio there, if the budget permits.

but based on my research, mas mura sa hyperfi vs. richer sound. you could easily check the price on the what hi fi magazine.

==============================
Quote from: kimera on Aug 08, 2003 at 11:49 PM
pre are you from the UK too?

i buy most of my stuff at hyperfi and richersounds.....richersounds sell them really cheap esp when its on clearance....try to look at www.superfi.co.uk too
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Aug 11, 2003 at 01:23 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Aug 11, 2003 at 01:08 PM
mga bossing, yung M70 / M71 oks lang ba for fronts? Also, do they have both physical dimensions? What's the difference between them.

Lastly, can anyone be friendly enough to share most latest market prices for them?

many thanks !

the M70's are much smaller than the M71. I guess they will do just fine for HT, better even than Bose cubes I suppose :)

check out - www.mission.co.uk for additional specs
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Aug 11, 2003 at 01:29 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Aug 11, 2003 at 01:08 PM
mga bossing, yung M70 / M71 oks lang ba for fronts? Also, do they have both physical dimensions? What's the difference between them.

Lastly, can anyone be friendly enough to share most latest market prices for them?

many thanks !

Pre, I'm using M70 for front and ok naman for both movies and music. If u need more bass, then use M71 or higher.

Nandito yung comparison ng bawat m70s series models:
http://www.techtronics.com/uk/shop/657-mission-m70-speakers.html
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Superman on Aug 11, 2003 at 01:56 PM: Quote from: JT on Aug 11, 2003 at 01:29 PM
Pre, I'm using M70 for front and ok naman for both movies and music. If u need more bass, then use M71 or higher.

Nandito yung comparison ng bawat m70s series models:
http://www.techtronics.com/uk/shop/657-mission-m70-speakers.html

bro,

how much is the m70 there???

meron kaya makukuha pre-owned but in very good condition??? may nagpapatanong sa akin eh...thanks ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Aug 11, 2003 at 02:51 PM: salamat !

this might be "it" for me then... now have to deliberate whether I can find someone selling a used pair or have to get a brand new pair very soon myself.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Aug 11, 2003 at 02:53 PM: Quote from: iceman90a on Aug 11, 2003 at 01:23 PM
the M70's are much smaller than the M71. I guess they will do just fine for HT, better even than Bose cubes I suppose :)

check out - www.mission.co.uk for additional specs

salamat chief... i got the center last Saturday night from Isak, now have to replace my front muna... but for the rear, I'll just keep my Bose AC5 sayang eh... walang pagtatapunan.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Aug 11, 2003 at 06:03 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Aug 11, 2003 at 02:53 PM
salamat chief... i got the center last Saturday night from Isak, now have to replace my front muna... but for the rear, I'll just keep my Bose AC5 sayang eh... walang pagtatapunan.

Bro no regrets on mission..yaman talaga..tinatapon na lang yung bose ;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Aug 11, 2003 at 06:07 PM: Quote from: dexterc on Aug 11, 2003 at 06:03 PM
Bro no regrets on mission..yaman talaga..tinatapon na lang yung bose ;D ;D

master dexterc,

hahaha... sana totoo... ikaw nga diyan kumpleto na yung mission set mo eh... tapos balita ko di-tubo ka na rin... ako di tabo pa rin hahaha

:-)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: toyfanatic on Aug 11, 2003 at 06:25 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Aug 11, 2003 at 01:08 PM
mga bossing, yung M70 / M71 oks lang ba for fronts? Also, do they have both physical dimensions? What's the difference between them.

Lastly, can anyone be friendly enough to share most latest market prices for them?

many thanks !

bro,

i suggest you get the following:

M73i- Front speakers
M7C1 or C2 - Center speakers
M70- rear spakers
US Audio- subwoofer

yang simply the best na yan ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: toyfanatic on Aug 11, 2003 at 06:27 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Aug 11, 2003 at 06:07 PM
master dexterc,

hahaha... sana totoo... ikaw nga diyan kumpleto na yung mission set mo eh... tapos balita ko di-tubo ka na rin... ako di tabo pa rin hahaha

:-)

dame talaga pera yan si dexter ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Aug 12, 2003 at 07:36 AM: Quote from: jackryan on Aug 11, 2003 at 06:07 PM
master dexterc,

hahaha... sana totoo... ikaw nga diyan kumpleto na yung mission set mo eh... tapos balita ko di-tubo ka na rin... ako di tabo pa rin hahaha

:-)

Bro jack,

wala pa nga eh...ayaw kasi ipa arbor ni isak yung mga tubo nya ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Aug 12, 2003 at 08:19 AM: si isak, lapit na payag yun... dami tubo sa bahay niya... ingat ka lang baka pati MWSS na tubo bigay na sa iyo... konting laro pa ng basketball ---- yung ang bagong missio mo "get a tube dead or alive" hahaha ;D

btw, nacalibrate mo na yung HT set-up after getting all the MIssion speakers?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Aug 13, 2003 at 07:38 AM: Quote from: jackryan on Aug 12, 2003 at 08:19 AM
si isak, lapit na payag yun... dami tubo sa bahay niya... ingat ka lang baka pati MWSS na tubo bigay na sa iyo... konting laro pa ng basketball ---- yung ang bagong missio mo "get a tube dead or alive" hahaha ;D

btw, nacalibrate mo na yung HT set-up after getting all the MIssion speakers?

Yup..pero nung lumipat na ako dito sa makati di na ulit calibrated..paging bro robertj ;D sya kasi dati ang nag calibrate sa HT set up ko
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: diamond on Aug 13, 2003 at 07:39 AM: Quote from: dexterc on Aug 13, 2003 at 07:38 AM
Yup..pero nung lumipat na ako dito sa makati di na ulit calibrated..paging bro robertj ;D sya kasi dati ang nag calibrate sa HT set up ko

bro,
masarap i-calibrate yan habang nag-iinuman. hehehehe. yan ang ating Mission!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Aug 13, 2003 at 07:42 AM: Quote from: diamond on Aug 13, 2003 at 07:39 AM
bro,
masarap i-calibrate yan habang nag-iinuman. hehehehe. yan ang ating Mission!

Pwede...ano kelan ang inuman? di ako pwede this sat..malamang next week na.. ;D

Jackryan..musta yung m7c1 mo? I think kung di rin lang kalakihan ang listening room mo oks na oks na yan for center speaker
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Aug 13, 2003 at 07:48 AM: okay lang siya... fit sa needs ko... seriously contemplating on getting the M70 this week... i need to wall mount it and need one that doesn't really obstruct so much of a view... medyo may kabigatan yung M71 eh.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Aug 13, 2003 at 07:50 AM: which reminds me ano ba talaga ang fit sa Mission for a sub na below 10k... I currently have DQ-12. Somebody suggested US Audio or DTX... ganuon ba talaga yon kuya? ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: s2kov on Aug 13, 2003 at 01:59 PM: Is anyone of you can give me an idea about 4 terminals (+ LF; - LF & + HF; - HF) of mission speaker? What's the purpose of this?

Sorry mga brod, i'm just starting to setup a home theater.... :'(
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: BuLLeT on Aug 13, 2003 at 02:11 PM: LF - Low Frequency
HF - High Frequency

This terminals at the back of your speakers give you the option to bi-wire it since you have two pairs of terminals to connect your speaker wires.

I hope other members can assist you more on this.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Aug 13, 2003 at 03:03 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Aug 13, 2003 at 07:48 AM
okay lang siya... fit sa needs ko... seriously contemplating on getting the M70 this week... i need to wall mount it and need one that doesn't really obstruct so much of a view... medyo may kabigatan yung M71 eh.

Pre, pls update naman kung magkano mong makukuha yung M70 and also kung meron pa sila nung silver color. I have a pair of unused M70 beech color bought by mistake. Di ko mailabas kasi mahahalata ni esmi.

Ang balak ko eh another pair of silver color para m70 silver for front and rear, m7c1 silver for front/rear center, 100watts SONY silver subwoofer driven by Yammy 440. Ayus.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: s2kov on Aug 13, 2003 at 03:26 PM: Thanks Bullet,

Bi-wire? When is the time that you will use the Low and High Frequency?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: BuLLeT on Aug 13, 2003 at 07:28 PM: S2kov,

"Bi-wiring involves using two pairs of speaker cables between your loudspeakers and an amplifier, where usually only one cable to each speaker would be used. If you are using loudspeakers that are capable of being bi-wired, it may be worth considering installing the extra cables to make the most of your system's audio performance."

More on this here:
http://www.home-cinema-guide.co.uk/biwire3.htm

I have bi-wired my M73i & M7c2 in my system. I have noticed a slight improvement regarding clarity compared to single wired connection. It was not a night & day difference for me. My rear surrounds (M71) remain on a single wired connection.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: s2kov on Aug 13, 2003 at 08:34 PM: BuLLet,

Thanks for the info... Appreciate it very much...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Aug 14, 2003 at 02:52 AM: Quote from: JT on Aug 13, 2003 at 03:03 PM
Pre, pls update naman kung magkano mong makukuha yung M70 and also kung meron pa sila nung silver color. I have a pair of unused M70 beech color bought by mistake. Di ko mailabas kasi mahahalata ni esmi.

Ang balak ko eh another pair of silver color para m70 silver for front and rear, m7c1 silver for front/rear center, 100watts SONY silver subwoofer driven by Yammy 440. Ayus.

I think mga 6T plus ang M70
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 14, 2003 at 02:38 PM: Sir Jackryan,

For sub you can't go wrong with Nirv (Mel ) A-audio yan ang gamit ko paired with misyon... :D :D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 14, 2003 at 02:40 PM: sir Dexterc,

Musta na yun mission speakers mo sir fully broken in na ba??
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Aug 14, 2003 at 04:53 PM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Aug 14, 2003 at 02:40 PM
sir Dexterc,

Musta na yun mission speakers mo sir fully broken in na ba??

Yup..by the way...sayang di tayo nag pang abot kay hyper last week..palabas ka sa place nya..ako yung pumasok
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 16, 2003 at 12:54 PM: Dexterc,

Ah ganun ba sir sayang I was still outside buying squidball hehehehe ah I remember ikaw yun papasok nun palabas ako pre.. bought some cd that day.. yun m73i ko parang fully broken in na ata hehehe swabe na sound.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatness on Aug 18, 2003 at 06:09 PM: question lang po, kabibili ko lang ng sub last friday to complete my set-up. I'm using:

m72 - front
m7c1 - center
m70 - rear

Now that I have a sub, should I set my front sa small or large? alin ba mas maganda tumunog kapag ganong setting? btw i'm using a hk avr3550 receiver.

salamat po.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 18, 2003 at 07:17 PM: same set up tayo HALOS except for the rears... I put everything to small pag movies.. but for music.. I set them to large.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Aug 18, 2003 at 11:12 PM: Correct me if Im wrong, Isnt the Bass Management for DD and DTS only? So if you just use stereo mode then you dont need to adjust small and large. How about for DPL 2 and 5/6 channel stereo?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 19, 2003 at 07:04 AM: Levi, In my HK 3550 you can select speaker size for each input ata eh.. not per dsp or surround mode. Unless theres something I dont know with setting it up yet :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 19, 2003 at 10:36 AM: Bro,

You can configure speaker size per dsp. Sa HK you usually set the speaker settings (db, delay, size) sa dpII to set it universally. Kung gusto mo ibahin yung settings sa ibang dsp you set it one by one.

Quote from: mdsaint3 on Aug 19, 2003 at 07:04 AM
Levi, In my HK 3550 you can select speaker size for each input ata eh.. not per dsp or surround mode. Unless theres something I dont know with setting it up yet :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 19, 2003 at 11:42 AM: ok thanks!!!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Aug 19, 2003 at 07:04 PM: OK
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: hkfoam on Aug 20, 2003 at 07:53 AM: Question lang po . Are the prices qouted for the speakers per piece or in pairs na? I know center speakers are sold per piece. Para lang po madetermine ko tamang budget na iipunin.I'm a newbie and planning to put up a decent HT system. This thread helped me a lot in my decision to buy M73, M70 and M7c1. TIA
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 20, 2003 at 07:56 AM: prices are per pair of course...unless centers or subs
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 20, 2003 at 07:59 AM: Quote from: presars on Aug 19, 2003 at 10:36 AM
Bro,

You can configure speaker size per dsp. Sa HK you usually set the speaker settings (db, delay, size) sa dpII to set it universally. Kung gusto mo ibahin yung settings sa ibang dsp you set it one by one.

OT presars.. I tried to adjust speaker size per dsp and I'm correct di pwede.. per source you can adjust the size but not per dsp. But you can adjust the db of the speakers per dsp. Try it.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Larry_Boy on Aug 26, 2003 at 12:45 PM: bro,

i suggest you get the following:

M73i- Front speakers
M7C1 or C2 - Center speakers
M70- rear spakers
US Audio- subwoofer

yang simply the best na yan ;D
Quote

query lang for you and the rest, malaki ba difference ng m7c1 vs. c2?

thanks in advance for all your replies!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: PapaJom on Aug 27, 2003 at 02:25 PM: Sir

Regards to C1 and C2.. If you have small to medium size room minimal difference sila.. in my experience
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: hkfoam on Aug 27, 2003 at 05:58 PM: Larry_Boy bro,
Finally ! As per advise and those of Mr. Tuazon's recommendations bought the ff:
RX-V640
M73i
M7c2
M70
Polk Audio PSW202
These are to be shipped to my place here in Mindanao and can't wait to lay my hands to my new toys and do the set up. I'm a newbie and will appreciate tips for the break-in of these equipments the do's and don'ts.Will post comments and feedbacks. More power to you guys!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Philander on Aug 27, 2003 at 06:40 PM: hkfoam,

Ey, congratz and enjoy, post your review soon especially to the new Yamaha 640.

Thanks.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: shine on Aug 27, 2003 at 06:45 PM: ang gandang laruan naman niyan...kakainggit.
Buong-buo, kulang na lang player.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 27, 2003 at 10:25 PM: ayus ... complete agad
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Larry_Boy on Aug 27, 2003 at 10:36 PM: Quote from: hkfoam on Aug 27, 2003 at 05:58 PM
Larry_Boy bro,
Finally ! As per advise and those of Mr. Tuazon's recommendations bought the ff:
RX-V640
M73i
M7c2
M70
Polk Audio PSW202
These are to be shipped to my place here in Mindanao and can't wait to lay my hands to my new toys and do the set up. I'm a newbie and will appreciate tips for the break-in of these equipments the do's and don'ts.Will post comments and feedbacks. More power to you guys!

hkfoam,

congrats to your new toys! what i have is an m72i, m7c1 and m71. since i have the marantz sr4300 (6.1) avr, i was planning to move the m7c1 as my surround center back spkr and then get the m7c2 as my front center. i've been wanting to spend my christmas bonus on that one.

also i plan to change my dq12 subwoofer, any suggestions aside from your polk psw202 & usaudio? sorry, this should be in another topic pala. pwede na rin, 'suggested subwoofer to match your mission speakers'. budget of Php8 - 10k.

thanks and regards to everyone!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 28, 2003 at 02:52 PM: Hkfoam,

Ganda ng new toys mo complete setup agad ;D and like Philander said review naman ng Yamaha 640 :o :o Congrats pre ..

LArryBoy,

Pre check out DTX subs ganda rin saw one 15" pre for 8,200 at Raon Knight store pre.. auditon mo na lang pre
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: shine on Aug 29, 2003 at 08:09 AM: wala bang sale ang mga mission speakers. Kahit sa M73i lang ako makapag-upgrade, ok na ako dun. San kaya ang lowest price? Spectra?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Larry_Boy on Aug 29, 2003 at 12:50 PM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Aug 28, 2003 at 02:52 PM
Hkfoam,

Ganda ng new toys mo complete setup agad ;D and like Philander said review naman ng Yamaha 640 :o :o Congrats pre ..

LArryBoy,

Pre check out DTX subs ganda rin saw one 15" pre for 8,200 at Raon Knight store pre.. auditon mo na lang pre

noted . . . thanks a lot hans!!!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Aug 29, 2003 at 01:11 PM: Quote from: 45mm on Aug 29, 2003 at 08:09 AM
wala bang sale ang mga mission speakers. Kahit sa M73i lang ako makapag-upgrade, ok na ako dun. San kaya ang lowest price? Spectra?

try also rene rivo or sonny tuazon
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: toyfanatic on Aug 30, 2003 at 08:48 AM: Quote from: 45mm on Aug 29, 2003 at 08:09 AM
wala bang sale ang mga mission speakers. Kahit sa M73i lang ako makapag-upgrade, ok na ako dun. San kaya ang lowest price? Spectra?

you can call sonny tuazon at 8138443, tell him your from pinoydvd ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 31, 2003 at 05:43 PM: 45mm,

Pre Upgrade ba??? right choice pa rin mission pre sent your PM
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: shine on Aug 31, 2003 at 09:25 PM: decided na ako mag-upgrade into mission m73i, walang-wala sinabi ang setup ko. side by side talagang talo. siguro sa sunod na sweldo, kung aabot sa m74i...better.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Aug 31, 2003 at 09:45 PM: Im just curious, what is your present setup?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: shine on Aug 31, 2003 at 09:55 PM: yamaha rx430, NS1000M ang front, Wharf 8.4 ang sorround, wharf center, usaudio sub.

May bibili na sa 8.4 ko,kaya bibitawan ko na. Gagawin kung front ang mission m73i at bibili na lang nang separate amp, surpus siguro to power up my NS1000M, pinag-iisipan ko pa ang magiging sorround ko.

Sa palagay mo sir levi, ok ba ang upgrade na gagawin ko?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Sep 01, 2003 at 01:51 PM: Quote from: 45mm on Aug 29, 2003 at 08:09 AM
wala bang sale ang mga mission speakers. Kahit sa M73i lang ako makapag-upgrade, ok na ako dun. San kaya ang lowest price? Spectra?

45mm, si Hans... he is selling hi m73i ah
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 01, 2003 at 07:28 PM: Jackryan,

Sir thanks basta pag may M70 advice ako pre.

45mm,

Hehehe baka magbago isip mo sir pre for the price panalo... just need to sell this eventhough (labag) since just got them but due to my preparation for tube have to buy higher sensitivity speaker around 94db.. :'( :'(
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: shine on Sep 02, 2003 at 09:56 AM: sana maka-abot hanggang end of next week pre.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2003 at 10:10 AM: 45mm,

Mission is still the best for me!! yun nga lang have get a higher sensitivity speaker around 94db to prepare for my tube setup.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 02, 2003 at 10:48 AM: Hans,

Any speaker in mind? I sense the Monitor Audio (90 to 91db). ;D

Quote from: Hans Adriane on Sep 02, 2003 at 10:10 AM
45mm,

Mission is still the best for me!! yun nga lang have get a higher sensitivity speaker around 94db to prepare for my tube setup.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sebman on Sep 02, 2003 at 10:56 AM: Quote from: presars on Sep 02, 2003 at 10:48 AM
Hans,

Any speaker in mind? I sense the Monitor Audio (90 to 91db). ;D

presars.. mali ka.. brines po and target ni Hans.. ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2003 at 10:58 AM: Sebman,

Correct ka dyan.. sir
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: obey on Sep 02, 2003 at 11:02 AM: Hans,

So bibitawan mo na ang HT setup mo or gagamitin mo for both HT and tube ang Brines?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2003 at 11:11 AM: Obey,

Sir malabo still love watching movie nasa akin pa Harman 5500, B&W 302 surround and A-Audio Sub..hope brines for fronts audio and HT

So pag push thru no center muna ako :'(
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: obey on Sep 02, 2003 at 11:15 AM: Hans,

Ok. Kung sakaling mag-push through plano mo post mo na lang review ng performance ng brines for HT. Siguro maganda rin review ng M73i vs brines fostex ;) Thanks!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sebman on Sep 02, 2003 at 11:18 AM: saka sir Hans. request na rin the maker of brines to custom made a brines center for you.. para complete ulit setup mo.. congrats in advance.. ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 02, 2003 at 11:25 AM: Obey,

sure pre :) :)

Sebman,

OT..Prend have tip yun fostex speaker lang will cost me a 8.4 diamond wla pa enclosure. :o
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 02, 2003 at 05:41 PM: Hans,

Expensive pala ang Fostex... plan mo pa ata Floorstanding? Ahehehe... ;D

Quote from: Hans Adriane on Sep 02, 2003 at 11:25 AM
Obey,

sure pre :) :)

Sebman,

OT..Prend have tip yun fostex speaker lang will cost me a 8.4 diamond wla pa enclosure. :o
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 03, 2003 at 12:18 PM: PResars

Pre yup medyo off budget na yan for me.. and yes plan to get the floorstander
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: akyatbundok on Sep 03, 2003 at 05:03 PM: hans adriane, congrats sir on your soon-to-be tube setup... medyo OT: alin amp/fostex combi balak mo kunin?

back to mission: guys, anybody know where to find a mission 780se, yung 25th anniversary special edition? not really buying, but im just curious how it sounds because it was named "speaker of the year" twice in a row.

and also... which series sounds better between the 78 and m5? m5 is the newer series with the modern look but 78 is the classier look.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 04, 2003 at 02:10 PM: akyatbundok,

OT pre have already the tube (vintage) amp yun speaker lang upgrade ko sir..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: john5479 on Sep 04, 2003 at 11:28 PM: well I heard the m5 and the 78 but I still like the 78 series better :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gutierrez on Sep 05, 2003 at 04:37 AM: SA WAKAS nakabili na din ako ng speakers hehehehe ;D at ang napili ko ay MISSION m70i series hehehehehe, thanx for all the help guys :).

Now I'm on search for a good receiver

front m73i
center m72ci
surr m70i

got it all for 29k at spectra, mura na ba yun?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Sep 05, 2003 at 07:38 AM: Quote from: gutierrez on Sep 05, 2003 at 04:37 AM
SA WAKAS nakabili na din ako ng speakers hehehehe ;D at ang napili ko ay MISSION m70i series hehehehehe, thanx for all the help guys :).

Now I'm on search for a good receiver

front m73i
center m72ci
surr m70i

got it all for 29k at spectra, mura na ba yun?

Congrats sa new set of speakers mo bro... ;)

sent you pm
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: shine on Sep 05, 2003 at 07:47 AM: Quote from: gutierrez on Sep 05, 2003 at 04:37 AM
SA WAKAS nakabili na din ako ng speakers hehehehe ;D at ang napili ko ay MISSION m70i series hehehehehe, thanx for all the help guys :).

Now I'm on search for a good receiver

front m73i
center m72ci
surr m70i

got it all for 29k at spectra, mura na ba yun?

Congrats!
Ang ganda nang blending niyan. May napili ka na bang receiver at sub para diyan?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gutierrez on Sep 05, 2003 at 07:50 AM: Quote from: 45mm on Sep 05, 2003 at 07:47 AM
Congrats!
Ang ganda nang blending niyan. May napili ka na bang receiver at sub para diyan?

thanx guys :)

for the receiver I'm choosing between onkyo 601 and harman 3550, I'm more into movies ano kaya mas ok

for the sub ipon muna for velodyne (mahal kasi)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: shine on Sep 05, 2003 at 08:03 AM: velodyne? talagang ayaw mo nang mag-upgrade ah. Mahirap na nga maghanap nun kasi masyadong mahal ang sub nila, pero the best naman.

If budget permits, go for velodyne bro.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gutierrez on Sep 05, 2003 at 08:12 AM: Quote from: 45mm on Sep 05, 2003 at 08:03 AM
velodyne? talagang ayaw mo nang mag-upgrade ah. Mahirap na nga maghanap nun kasi masyadong mahal ang sub nila, pero the best naman.

If budget permits, go for velodyne bro.

plano pa lang yun, pero sa bandang huli baka DQ din bagsak ko ;D hehehehehe

narinig ko DQ sub with mission sa HK2550 ok din pero velodyne ibang klase talaga :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Sep 05, 2003 at 08:27 AM: gutierrez,

congrats on choosing mission speakers. youll love it even more after the break in period.

sent you a pm.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gutierrez on Sep 05, 2003 at 08:29 AM: Quote from: JulsP168 on Sep 05, 2003 at 08:27 AM
gutierrez,

congrats on choosing mission speakers. youll love it even more after the break in period.

sent you a pm.

pre di ko na receive pm mo, sent mo na lang ulit,

sent u pm.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gutierrez on Sep 05, 2003 at 09:44 AM: The owner of spectra told me that when it comes to audio listening mas lamang talaga mission sa wharfes (I agree) pero when it comes to ht listening halos wala daw pinag kaiba, is it true? hindi ko na kasi na test yun wharfes sa ht.

can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [slayer] on Sep 05, 2003 at 10:21 AM: Dude,

If you're a critical listener then you'll notice some slight but not that significant difference. In general, halos walang difference. This is also true with rock music. Ask sebmen. ;D

Quote from: gutierrez on Sep 05, 2003 at 09:44 AM
The owner of spectra told me that when it comes to audio listening mas lamang talaga mission sa wharfes (I agree) pero when it comes to ht listening halos wala daw pinag kaiba, is it true? hindi ko na kasi na test yun wharfes sa ht.

can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Sep 05, 2003 at 12:03 PM: Quote from: gutierrez on Sep 05, 2003 at 09:44 AM
The owner of spectra told me that when it comes to audio listening mas lamang talaga mission sa wharfes (I agree) pero when it comes to ht listening halos wala daw pinag kaiba, is it true? hindi ko na kasi na test yun wharfes sa ht.

can anyone confirm this?

dont be bothered by what spectra told you. get familiarized with your mission first tapos try to compare it with wharfes. you be the judge.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: akyatbundok on Sep 05, 2003 at 12:06 PM: Quote from: john5479 on Sep 04, 2003 at 11:28 PM
well I heard the m5 and the 78 but I still like the 78 series better :)

thanks sir! malaki kaya ang difference ng "SE" version sa hinde?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: john5479 on Sep 05, 2003 at 02:11 PM: can't say coz I haven't heard an SE version of the 780.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: john5479 on Sep 05, 2003 at 02:14 PM: Quote from: gutierrez on Sep 05, 2003 at 09:44 AM
The owner of spectra told me that when it comes to audio listening mas lamang talaga mission sa wharfes (I agree) pero when it comes to ht listening halos wala daw pinag kaiba, is it true? hindi ko na kasi na test yun wharfes sa ht.

can anyone confirm this?

if ht is your concern it will be hard to point differences, but if you're also keen on audio mission is the safe bet. pero wharfs are good also...mas madali lang idrive yung mission.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gutierrez on Sep 07, 2003 at 03:07 AM: mas ok ba yun m71 for surrounds than m70?. Is there any difference ?, someone told me that same lang sila if you'll use it for surrounds.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Kings on Sep 07, 2003 at 10:10 AM: IMO, pareho lang sila. I think the sounds that come out of the surround channels do not merit additional investment. In fact Sonny Tuazon set-up a couple of friends of mine with M5x series fronts and center and recommended M70s for their surrounds.

But that's just one man's opinion. Medyo bingi pa ! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 07, 2003 at 10:46 AM: Gutierrez,

Pre if for surround lang pwede na yun m70i mas important yun front and center. surround is for effect only
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gutierrez on Sep 07, 2003 at 11:02 AM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Sep 07, 2003 at 10:46 AM
Gutierrez,

Pre if for surround lang pwede na yun m70i mas important yun front and center. surround is for effect only

I paired the mission speakers with Marantz 6300 ok kaya, di ko pa ne test
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Sep 07, 2003 at 11:18 AM: seems like a good match!!! goodluck
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 09, 2003 at 02:49 PM: Gutuerrez,

Pre you'll love your Mission coz kahit ano AVR na paired sa kanya ok na ok... music or HT panalo since detailed naman tumunog ang mission.. mas gaganda yan after break in then konting tsaga look for the best placement ayus na ayus yan pre..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: instinct311 on Sep 10, 2003 at 08:21 AM: mga dude question lang paano ko break in yung mission speaker ko i have m72 and nakita ko sa isang thread kung paano. verification lang na face to face yung dalawang speaker and yung isa baliktad yung wire? which one yung papuntang receiver or papuntang speaker or pareho (way ng speaker and receiver)and how about the center speaker do i have to break in din ba sya? :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Sep 10, 2003 at 08:48 AM: Quote from: instinct311 on Sep 10, 2003 at 08:21 AM
mga dude question lang paano ko break in yung mission speaker ko i have m72 and nakita ko sa isang thread kung paano. verification lang na face to face yung dalawang speaker and yung isa baliktad yung wire? which one yung papuntang receiver or papuntang speaker or pareho (way ng speaker and receiver)and how about the center speaker do i have to break in din ba sya? :)

if i were you - hindi naman nagmamadali yang pag break in nyan. just use it at moderate volumes everyday - enjoy pa, instead of listening to them playing music out of phase (para lang ma break in)

my opinion lang po :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: toyfanatic on Sep 10, 2003 at 08:53 AM: Quote from: gutierrez on Sep 05, 2003 at 04:37 AM
SA WAKAS nakabili na din ako ng speakers hehehehe ;D at ang napili ko ay MISSION m70i series hehehehehe, thanx for all the help guys :).

Now I'm on search for a good receiver

front m73i
center m72ci
surr m70i

got it all for 29k at spectra, mura na ba yun?

congrats bro, although medyo mahal ng konti you can get it pa at around 26k from our fellow pinoydvd members ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatness on Sep 10, 2003 at 10:41 AM: question guys, do you think mission speakers are better suited for audio rather than ht or vice versa?

Or talagang ok sya pareho?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JhunDV on Sep 10, 2003 at 11:14 AM: Quote from: greatness on Sep 10, 2003 at 10:41 AM
question guys, do you think mission speakers are better suited for audio rather than ht or vice versa?

Or talagang ok sya pareho?

IMHO, at the price, ok sya pareho sa Audio or HT. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 10, 2003 at 12:36 PM: instinct,

Pre kung face to face break in gusto mo ganito yun
try to play the CD you want to use tapos get the best volume (moderate level ) tapos pause muna yun CD player position mo na speaker yun clearance ng 2 speaker should be near BUT NOT TOUCHING and pantay, then ONE speaker change the polarity lipat mo yun positive wire ( + ) sa negative ( - ) socket pati yun negative wire sa ( + ) socket then ok na play mo na yun CD ulit.. put a tick blanket to silent the sound.. overnight pwede na yan pre.

Or just use it play what you want to hear..by the way take off the speaker grill ;D ;D

CD use:
Break in CD
Rock and Disco
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: instinct311 on Sep 10, 2003 at 01:16 PM: Thanks mga dude. verify ko lang kung yung wire na babaguhin ko is the part that is on the receiver side or on the speaker side or BOTH, curious lang ako sa procedure na pang break in ng mission speaker. ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 10, 2003 at 01:24 PM: Instinct,

Speaker Side lang and ONE speaker lang din pre
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: instinct311 on Sep 10, 2003 at 01:33 PM: pwede bang nde ko na lagyan ng blanket :-) how about the center speaker wala na ba akong ibang gagawin:-) i m using m7c1i
thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 10, 2003 at 01:40 PM: instinct,

Blanket pwede di lagay.. Center yan kailangan eh manood ka na lang hehehe ;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatness on Sep 10, 2003 at 01:58 PM: Hans,

thanks sa info
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: instinct311 on Sep 10, 2003 at 02:53 PM: thanks try ko na lang mamaya ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Sep 12, 2003 at 12:17 PM: Introducing the new Mission M3 series:

(http://www.mission.co.uk/home/homepic4.jpg)

Mission's m3 speakers transmit power, excitement and emotion, all aspects of sonic performance that lift the m3 series to a new level of excellence at an affordable price.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Sep 12, 2003 at 01:09 PM: avail na ba yan dito?? how much are the speakers? More than 2 months na yan sa website nila eh. Pero la pa sa market when I was looking around. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Sep 12, 2003 at 01:18 PM: the m3 series is not yet available but i think Home Theater has a price list of this product already. when i inquired about the price they told me that the m3 is a little higher than the m70i series.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Sep 12, 2003 at 03:32 PM: just fyi guys,
talked with the distributor about the M3 series and they said na November pa ang dating nito sa Pinas :'(

we'll have to wait a couple of months pa.. :-\
hope it's worth the wait...any reviews on the M3's?
the M35 looks promising 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: lance on Sep 12, 2003 at 03:45 PM: Tanong lang po mga sir. ::)di pag break-in dapat inuunti unti?......or pwede rin syang madaliin?.....kasi sa mga sasakyan or sa motorcycle pag sinabi na break-in period may specified na speed lang. moderate nga lang eh. Kung sa break-in ng speaker, kung mamadaliin, di kaya makaapekto ng hindi maganda sa performance?...... ???Tanong lang po.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: av_phile on Sep 12, 2003 at 04:23 PM: Came across an article on the net that says breaking-in a new set of speakers should be gradual, starting with a lower volume over the frist few days and gowing louder over the successive days. I think there are shortcuts to this, like playing the music, a pink noise or a low frequency tone or tone bursts from a test CD while your're out of the house. Or you could let the speakers face each other, wiring one speaker out of phase and play the musc, pink noise or test tones also while out of the house. That could reduce the needed days to break them in.

(Maybe its a good idea to get na lang the demo speakers when buying a new set. That way, they're already borken-in. Just make sure there are no dents or scratches. ;D)

Persoanlly, i find a new set of speakers an entirely different listening experience from my old so that i just listen to them at normal listening levels as long as possible and enjoy hearing new things. Then, after a few days, playing back familiar CDs would tend to bring out something new again for me to appreciate and enjoy once the speakers are finally broken in. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Sep 12, 2003 at 06:02 PM: Napikon ako sa sarili and just bought a brand new pair of M70i from Rene last night after the heavy downpour :-)

Btw, what's the difference ba between an M70 and M70i ? I compared this with the newer M30 and I think M70 seems to be better config when I viewed the specs side by side.

At any rate, I wonder if anyone is using an M70i pair and have them wall mounted. If yes, what bracket did you use???

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Sep 12, 2003 at 06:32 PM: Rene sells wall bracket for M70. I got one before for my friend.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Sep 12, 2003 at 06:55 PM: Quote from: JulsP168 on Sep 12, 2003 at 01:18 PM
the m3 series is not yet available but i think Home Theater has a price list of this product already. when i inquired about the price they told me that the m3 is a little higher than the m70i series.

The M3 series is almost the same price with m70 series here in Singapore and already available since June.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Sep 14, 2003 at 07:22 AM: Quote from: JT on Sep 12, 2003 at 06:55 PM
The M3 series is almost the same price with m70 series here in Singapore and already available since June.

have you auditioned both, JT ? When I looked at the specs, seems like mas okay pa rin yung M70 --- please let me know if I am wrong.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Sep 14, 2003 at 07:35 AM: JT, pare, pa-tanong naman how much would an M70BR (yung wall mount kit) for an M70 costs in Singapore.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Sep 14, 2003 at 08:43 AM: just noticed that the M3 series has higher db rating...
meaning easier to drive? on tube amps perhaps?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Sep 14, 2003 at 09:40 AM: Quote from: levi on Sep 12, 2003 at 06:32 PM
Rene sells wall bracket for M70. I got one before for my friend.

thanks senor levi, i checked with rene he is selling a different one... i am looking for the m70br sana.

:-)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Sep 14, 2003 at 11:20 AM: Quote from: jackryan on Sep 14, 2003 at 07:35 AM
JT, pare, pa-tanong naman how much would an M70BR (yung wall mount kit) for an M70 costs in Singapore.

No problem. Check ko mamya, PM kita bukas. Sa front mo din ba gagamitin yung M70?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Sep 15, 2003 at 06:35 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Sep 14, 2003 at 07:22 AM
have you auditioned both, JT ? When I looked at the specs, seems like mas okay pa rin yung M70 --- please let me know if I am wrong.

Halos pareho lang yung m3 at m70 as rear speakers. Di ko na-test as front eh.

BTW. 29sgd (900pesos) each daw yung bracket. Ano ba itsura nun? Tumawag lang kasi ako shop, di ako nakapunta kanina.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Sep 21, 2003 at 10:41 AM: JT,

Pare, salamat. I already got my M70's installed.

-jackryan 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: luckyluis on Sep 24, 2003 at 08:56 AM: san po ba nakabibili ng missions speakers na bago at magkano po kasi bibili po ako today supposedly ng Mordaunt Short eh di ko alam kung ano ang mas maganda na medyo mura.

Thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Superman on Sep 24, 2003 at 09:07 AM: Quote from: luckyluis on Sep 24, 2003 at 08:56 AM
san po ba nakabibili ng missions speakers na bago at magkano po kasi bibili po ako today supposedly ng Mordaunt Short eh di ko alam kung ano ang mas maganda na medyo mura.

Thanks

THE HOME THEATER...look for mr. sonny tuazon or me-ann tuazon...812-5235...thanks and good luck! ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Sep 24, 2003 at 03:43 PM: Quote from: Superman on Sep 24, 2003 at 09:07 AM
THE HOME THEATER...look for mr. sonny tuazon or me-ann tuazon...812-5235...thanks and good luck! ;D

Bro, maraming maraming salamat dun sa m7c1i silver. Bagay na bagay dun sa setup ko atsaka ang laki pa ng improvement sa vocals.

Patulong ulit ako, m70i silver naman for my rear speakers. M70 beech kasi ang ginagamit ko ngayon, gusto ko puro silver lahat.

Thanks ulit.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Superman on Sep 24, 2003 at 04:51 PM: Quote from: JT on Sep 24, 2003 at 03:43 PM
Bro, maraming maraming salamat dun sa m7c1i silver. Bagay na bagay dun sa setup ko atsaka ang laki pa ng improvement sa vocals.

Patulong ulit ako, m70i silver naman for my rear speakers. M70 beech kasi ang ginagamit ko ngayon, gusto ko puro silver lahat.

Thanks ulit.

pare,

just called THE HOME THEATER...puro black and beech lang available...will try to source one out for you...thanks! 8)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Sep 24, 2003 at 05:08 PM: Quote from: Superman on Sep 24, 2003 at 04:51 PM
pare,

just called THE HOME THEATER...puro black and beech lang available...will try to source one out for you...thanks! 8)

It's ok pre, Im now keen on the speaker stand. This one can wait. Thanks.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Sep 26, 2003 at 12:02 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Sep 14, 2003 at 07:22 AM
have you auditioned both, JT ? When I looked at the specs, seems like mas okay pa rin yung M70 --- please let me know if I am wrong.

According to my friend, M70 produces more crisp and clear sounds compared to m30. So he used his m70 as front and m30 as rear.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: bondats2003 on Oct 25, 2003 at 08:00 AM: attention to anyone who purchased a speaker at spectra:

I recently bought a mission speaker set at spectra, my concern is I got their demo unit the salesguy told me that nilalabas daw nila kagad yung stock nila, to cut the story short kinuha ko na yung display unit nila.

Is there anyone among you who also bought a speaker from spectra and got a display unit?
Actually wala naman problema yung speakers but I just wanna know if ganun talaga sila magbenta ng speakers if they really give the display unit.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: james16 on Oct 25, 2003 at 12:08 PM: Quote from: bondats2003 on Oct 25, 2003 at 08:00 AM
attention to anyone who purchased a speaker at spectra:

I recently bought a mission speaker set at spectra, my concern is I got their demo unit the salesguy told me that nilalabas daw nila kagad yung stock nila, to cut the story short kinuha ko na yung display unit nila.

Is there anyone among you who also bought a speaker from spectra and got a display unit?
Actually wala naman problema yung speakers but I just wanna know if ganun talaga sila magbenta ng speakers if they really give the display unit.

i did when i had purchased then the m7c1 before. It wasnt a problem to me since it needs less time in breaking-in... I know some members here would rather buy the demo instead from out of the box....
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 25, 2003 at 12:28 PM: bondats,

Sir also bought from spectra before AVR naman no problem naman for me mas ok yun since medyo na-break in na konti compare to out of the box.. and don't worry kasi sigurado naman maingat sila gumamit. whats important is that its has no defect or scratch and 100% complete..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: bondats2003 on Oct 26, 2003 at 07:27 AM: actually okay naman yung speakers overall pero may konting gasgas dun sa bottom of the floorstanders, nakita ko lang yun glitch when I got home ;D.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: gutierrez on Oct 26, 2003 at 12:15 PM: Quote from: bondats2003 on Oct 26, 2003 at 07:27 AM
actually okay naman yung speakers overall pero may konting gasgas dun sa bottom of the floorstanders, nakita ko lang yun glitch when I got home ;D.

I bought mine from spectra, same with yours may konti din scratch sa ilalim ng speakers, I guess it's because the spikes are not yet connected so there's no support, anyways okay naman sila :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Dec 03, 2003 at 02:05 PM: Mga pre,
Favor naman. Timbrehan nyo naman ako pag may nakita kayong silver m70 at m7c1 diyan. Pa-PM nung shop at kung pwede eh patanong nung price.

Di na talaga available ang brand new dito at walang gustong magbenta ng 2nd hand.

Thanks.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Garp on Dec 03, 2003 at 05:09 PM: Don't know if this deserves a separate thread but I have a Mission M73i and I'm currently obsessed with DIY. I'm thinking of upgrading the x-overs in the Mission. I've looked at the capacitors used--2 of them. One is a generic electrolytic cap (10uf 100v, blue jacket) and a 5.6uf AC metallized cap (no brand, yellow). Seeing that these are generic parts, I'm thinking there might be some room for improvement by replacing the caps with either Audyn or Solen caps. Pure film and foil is out of budget. Anyone has done anything similar? the upgrade shouldn't take more than 30 min tops.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: akyatbundok on Dec 03, 2003 at 06:08 PM: hi garp, let us know the results... i have a friend who wants to upgrade his speaker's crossovers too.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 04, 2003 at 10:00 AM: Garp,

That nice heard before that somebody tried to change the wires to eccose 2.3 and have improved.. :D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Garp on Dec 04, 2003 at 10:06 AM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Dec 04, 2003 at 10:00 AM
Garp,

That nice heard before that somebody tried to change the wires to eccose 2.3 and have improved.. :D

Yeah I saw the wire inside--seems like ordinary 16 gauge copper wire. Although changing the wire would require taking out the driver. The wire is not soldiered to the speaker but uses a connector--its soldered to the x-over tho. Will try to order Solens soon. The only problem though is that the electro cap is radial but solens are axial. Might have to solder the solen standing up on one side.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 05, 2003 at 12:52 PM: mission m73i with sub

or

mission m74i

or

mission m741 with sub (di ba over)

is mission still a good buy since nandyan na MA,
GALE
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 05, 2003 at 12:55 PM: Kimpoy,

Mission M73i with sub.. ;D ;D
Gale with sub
MA with sub.. audition is the best answer sir.. price range silang lahat..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: james16 on Dec 08, 2003 at 12:38 PM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Dec 05, 2003 at 12:55 PM
Kimpoy,

Mission M73i with sub.. ;D ;D
Gale with sub
MA with sub.. audition is the best answer sir.. price range silang lahat..

korek!!! ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 08, 2003 at 12:51 PM: kimpoy,

you have PM pre...

james,

listening session kita nelson pagdating ng DVD21 hehhee
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: j_albert22 on Dec 08, 2003 at 02:33 PM: opss sama ko dyan hehehehe ;D mukhang maganda nga kina nels kc gusto ko marinig yong dagundong tsaka kuha natin CD na pangko nya ;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: james16 on Dec 08, 2003 at 10:10 PM: Quote from: j_albert22 on Dec 08, 2003 at 02:33 PM
opss sama ko dyan hehehehe ;D mukhang maganda nga kina nels kc gusto ko marinig yong dagundong tsaka kuha natin CD na pangko nya ;D ;D

bibili lang ako ng cdrs para makopya yung bass cd ni "golden eared" nelson... at kapag anjan yung dvd21 ni nels, its a MUST na marinig yung set-up nya... ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: nels76 on Dec 09, 2003 at 05:07 AM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Dec 08, 2003 at 12:51 PM
kimpoy,

you have PM pre...

james,

listening session kita nelson pagdating ng DVD21 hehhee

Hans, j_albert, James16,

Sure sa lsitening session. pero malabo this year. Di pa tapos house.

Na kay James iyong BASS CD. Siya na lang daw mag-burn.

Cheers.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 09, 2003 at 08:20 AM: Nelson,

Ok lang sir no problem...

James,

Yun cd ikaw na bahala sir.. charge as na lang or charge to experience mas ok...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: james16 on Dec 09, 2003 at 12:50 PM: Quote from: Hans Adriane on Dec 09, 2003 at 08:20 AM
Nelson,

Ok lang sir no problem...

James,

Yun cd ikaw na bahala sir.. charge as na lang or charge to experience mas ok...

cge, ikopya ko na lang kayo as soon as makabili ako ng cdrs... ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: audi0slave on Dec 14, 2003 at 06:35 PM: to all mission-aries out there, may m3 series na ba dito? if yes, magkano m33 and m34? and what stores carry this brand or where can i have a chance to see and audition them?
;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: james16 on Dec 14, 2003 at 10:32 PM: Quote from: audioslave on Dec 14, 2003 at 06:35 PM
to all mission-aries out there, may m3 series na ba dito? if yes, magkano m33 and m34? and what stores carry this brand or where can i have a chance to see and audition them?
;D ;D

punta ka sa image, sa harrison plaza near mcdo.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Dec 15, 2003 at 12:01 AM: Im testing the Mission I bought for my client. Initially it was very harsh but after using it for 2 hours, you can really hear it improved. Given enough time for break in, I know this speaker is very good.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 15, 2003 at 09:45 AM: Mission is a good speaker to start with have a chance to owned a M73i before and for audio and HT its good. detail and clear sound match it with a good AVR and cable and you'll have a very good setup.. :) :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: audi0slave on Dec 15, 2003 at 09:56 AM: Hans,

palagay ko mas maganda MA B4 kse u parted ways with ur m73i and opted to switch to ur current floorstander!! he he he he ;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 15, 2003 at 10:06 AM: Audioslave,

Agree sir... ;D ;D but as we get adjusted on what we have sometimes people tend to look for something new, more and expect the change to be different naman sir ;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: AudioAddict on Dec 15, 2003 at 11:12 PM: Pipols,

Saan, ba pwede makabili ng cheap brand new mission M72 speakers? Thanks.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Dec 16, 2003 at 10:37 AM: audioaddict,

try sonny tuazon of hometheater tel no. 813-8443. got some of my monitor audio speakers from him but he sells mission too. advice bro, audition monitor audio and mission side by side before making your purchase. almost the same price bracket sila.

also check out the assorted buy and sell thread. your better off buying several month old speakers since no need to break in na. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: silhouette on Dec 16, 2003 at 10:13 PM: Quote from: AudioAddict on Dec 15, 2003 at 11:12 PM
Pipols,

Saan, ba pwede makabili ng cheap brand new mission M72 speakers? Thanks.

try mo din kay Amiel of Tech Central sa Mkti Cinema Square. Nice deal sa mission speakers.

cheers!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Dec 17, 2003 at 08:32 AM: sir if i may ask, what's the purpose of interchanging the polarities?

Quote from: Hans Adriane on Sep 10, 2003 at 12:36 PM
instinct,

Pre kung face to face break in gusto mo ganito yun
try to play the CD you want to use tapos get the best volume (moderate level ) tapos pause muna yun CD player position mo na speaker yun clearance ng 2 speaker should be near BUT NOT TOUCHING and pantay, then ONE speaker change the polarity lipat mo yun positive wire ( + ) sa negative ( - ) socket pati yun negative wire sa ( + ) socket then ok na play mo na yun CD ulit.. put a tick blanket to silent the sound.. overnight pwede na yan pre.

Or just use it play what you want to hear..by the way take off the speaker grill ;D ;D

CD use:
Break in CD
Rock and Disco
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 17, 2003 at 08:49 AM: Ronin,

we change the polarity so that the woofer will move in a synchronized manner kasi pag correct yun polarity try to notice both woofer will move forward and back so pag face to face for baka ma-damage yun woofer mo so kaya we change one speaker para one will move back while yun isa naman forward di nagtutulakan and not damage the speaker.. 8) 8)

Hope this helps..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Dec 17, 2003 at 01:24 PM: ah ok then iwan mo lang overnight and that's it? pwede din naman continous na gamit di ba... mabe-breakin na rin yun ;D

thanks!!! ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: Hans Adriane on Dec 17, 2003 at 08:49 AM
Ronin,

we change the polarity so that the woofer will move in a synchronized manner kasi pag correct yun polarity try to notice both woofer will move forward and back so pag face to face for baka ma-damage yun woofer mo so kaya we change one speaker para one will move back while yun isa naman forward di nagtutulakan and not damage the speaker.. 8) 8)

Hope this helps..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 18, 2003 at 09:10 AM: ronin,

Yes pre just continue using it will also break in the speakers..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Dec 22, 2003 at 07:33 PM: ok thanks!!!! ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Dec 28, 2003 at 05:39 PM: guys am selling my Mission 780's at the Buy n sell section :)

just thought you might be interested
sorry for the Ot mga bossing
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Dec 29, 2003 at 09:37 AM: Quote from: tryaudio on Dec 28, 2003 at 05:39 PM
guys am selling my Mission 780's at the Buy n sell section :)

just thought you might be interested
sorry for the Ot mga bossing

sorry for the query. a friend is interested but asked why you had the original drivers replaced. thanks.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Garp on Jan 07, 2004 at 10:10 AM: Quote from: Garp on Dec 03, 2003 at 05:09 PM
Don't know if this deserves a separate thread but I have a Mission M73i and I'm currently obsessed with DIY. I'm thinking of upgrading the x-overs in the Mission. I've looked at the capacitors used--2 of them. One is a generic electrolytic cap (10uf 100v, blue jacket) and a 5.6uf AC metallized cap (no brand, yellow). Seeing that these are generic parts, I'm thinking there might be some room for improvement by replacing the caps with either Audyn or Solen caps. Pure film and foil is out of budget. Anyone has done anything similar? the upgrade shouldn't take more than 30 min tops.

Ok I have replaced the 10uf electrolytic cap in my M73's x-over to Solen FC 10uf 250V. I don't know if I need to break it in but the result is audible. I have a smoother midrange, more body, and more bass although I need to listen more to the bass. My initial impression is that the bass although louder seems a bit less controlled. Maybe it just needs breaking in. If anyone's interested here are the values of the M73i crossovers--i don't know about the inductors. Am considering upgrading the rest except the inductors. If anyone's interested in pictures of the x-over wit the solen fitted, let me know.

10uf 63V elytone electrolytic
5.6f 100V AC Metallized cap (no brand)
1.5R 5W ceramic wirewound
2.7R 5W ceramic wirewound
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: s2kov on Jan 07, 2004 at 10:29 AM: Yeah!!! Post the pic please.... :D :D :D

Quote from: Garp on Jan 07, 2004 at 10:10 AM
Ok I have replaced the 10uf electrolytic cap in my M73's x-over to Solen FC 10uf 250V. I don't know if I need to break it in but the result is audible. I have a smoother midrange, more body, and more bass although I need to listen more to the bass. My initial impression is that the bass although louder seems a bit less controlled. Maybe it just needs breaking in. If anyone's interested here are the values of the M73i crossovers--i don't know about the inductors. Am considering upgrading the rest except the inductors. If anyone's interested in pictures of the x-over wit the solen fitted, let me know.

10uf 63V elytone electrolytic
5.6f 100V AC Metallized cap (no brand)
1.5R 5W ceramic wirewound
2.7R 5W ceramic wirewound
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: the_real_napster on Jan 07, 2004 at 10:31 AM: how much would that tweak cost?? can u do it for us?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 07, 2004 at 10:34 AM: Garp,

Ayos yan sir.. pix pix...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Garp on Jan 07, 2004 at 10:47 AM: Ok will send the pics tom. I actually took pictures yesterday in case anyone would be interested.

Hi Real_napster sorry I can't do it. But I swear its easy--all you need is a soldering iron and a desoldiering pump or braid and glue gun and screwdriver. The hardest part is desoldiering the old cap. It took me 30 min. to change both channels, including screwing the speaker terminals in place.

The solen 10uf 250v solen cost me $3.82 each while the shipping cost me $10 (flat rate for 1 pound I think) from tubesandmore.com. Try to get them locally from the DIY guys here or wiredstate. I just opted for tubesandmore to test their service.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Jan 07, 2004 at 03:25 PM: guys how much na kaya ngayon Missions M70i - M74i? basically the whole series, may idea ba kayo?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Philander on Jan 07, 2004 at 03:36 PM: Quote from: sgc_wdi on Jan 07, 2004 at 03:25 PM
guys how much na kaya ngayon Missions M70i - M74i? basically the whole series, may idea ba kayo?

m73i - 12,500.00
m7c1i - 6,500.00
m70i - 7,000.00
m74i -19,000.00
m7c2 - 10,000.00
m72i - 10,500.00
m7ds - 11,500.00

+/- 5%
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Garp on Jan 08, 2004 at 09:41 AM: Quote from: Garp on Jan 07, 2004 at 10:47 AM
Ok will send the pics tom. I actually took pictures yesterday in case anyone would be interested.

Hi Real_napster sorry I can't do it. But I swear its easy--all you need is a soldering iron and a desoldiering pump or braid and glue gun and screwdriver. The hardest part is desoldiering the old cap. It took me 30 min. to change both channels, including screwing the speaker terminals in place.

Here are the photos. I'll also change the "white coffin" resistors to better alternatives. Access Frontier has Welwyn wirewounds. If you know where to get Mills resistors aside from partsexpress.com, please share. :)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid97/p4367a43c0b5c701d6d1b8a289fa2f408/fa078301.jpg)

That's the eletrolytic cap I replaced.
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid97/p58a1094c8597024ae31c1772fa7da539/fa0782fd.jpg)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jan 08, 2004 at 06:00 PM: Garp,

Any significant changes after replacing resistor and capacitor?

Thanks!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Garp on Jan 09, 2004 at 10:08 AM: I've replaced only the capacitor so far. My initial impression is that the midrange is not as aggressive as before. Usually with my setup, there's a certain volume level and a specific recording I play when the sounds starts to become harsh. This time however I don't hear that harshness. Even at lower volumes, the sound seems more relaxed. I really like the change.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jan 09, 2004 at 10:34 AM: Quote from: Garp on Jan 09, 2004 at 10:08 AM
I've replaced only the capacitor so far. My initial impression is that the midrange is not as aggressive as before. Usually with my setup, there's a certain volume level and a specific recording I play when the sounds starts to become harsh. This time however I don't hear that harshness. Even at lower volumes, the sound seems more relaxed. I really like the change.

congrats. keep those tweaks coming!

may i know what amp and player youre using? thanks.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Garp on Jan 09, 2004 at 10:45 AM: Im using just an entry level pioneer dvd player, onkyo receiver, and gainclone amp.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Jan 09, 2004 at 11:18 AM: Quote from: Philander on Jan 07, 2004 at 03:36 PM
m73i - 12,500.00
m7c1i - 6,500.00
m70i - 7,000.00
m74i -19,000.00
m7c2 - 10,000.00
m72i - 10,500.00
m7ds - 11,500.00

+/- 5%

philander, thanks! anong shop itong price na ito?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Jan 09, 2004 at 11:30 AM: discontinued na pala M70 and M70i series? bakit kaya?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Philander on Jan 09, 2004 at 11:39 AM: Quote from: sgc_wdi on Jan 09, 2004 at 11:18 AM
philander, thanks! anong shop itong price na ito?

Contact Nerley or The HomeTheater
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: sgc_wdi on Jan 09, 2004 at 02:01 PM: Quote from: Philander on Jan 09, 2004 at 11:39 AM
Contact Nerley or The HomeTheater

ic ok thanks...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jan 09, 2004 at 04:10 PM: garp,

Galing sir keep it up.. have the same experience before..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jan 09, 2004 at 05:25 PM: Quote from: sgc_wdi on Jan 09, 2004 at 11:30 AM
discontinued na pala M70 and M70i series? bakit kaya?

Introducing the new Mission M3 series:

(http://www.mission.co.uk/home/homepic4.jpg)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: SirJackass on Jan 09, 2004 at 11:59 PM: is this a step up from the M5 and M7 series?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Larry_Boy on Jan 23, 2004 at 08:08 AM: dear Mission lovers,

just want to find out if anyone of you here are more into audio/music. what's a nice set-up to match the m72i (assuming a budget of P25-30k range?) thanks for your suggestions in advance!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jan 23, 2004 at 09:29 AM: Quote from: Larry_Boy on Jan 23, 2004 at 08:08 AM
dear Mission lovers,

just want to find out if anyone of you here are more into audio/music. what's a nice set-up to match the m72i (assuming a budget of P25-30k range?) thanks for your suggestions in advance!

Amplifier:

SS

Rotel 931 mk II
NAD 320bee

Tube

WS integrated amp
TS Audio 34.1

CD Player:

Harman Kardon 750
NAD 521bee
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: darkwing on Jan 24, 2004 at 01:57 AM: Hi!

I'm just wondering if the Mission m72 are magnetically shielded? If not, how far would they have to be from a TV set? thanks!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Larry_Boy on Jan 24, 2004 at 11:45 AM: Quote from: JulsP168 on Jan 23, 2004 at 09:29 AM
Amplifier:

SS

Rotel 931 mk II
NAD 320bee

Tube

WS integrated amp
TS Audio 34.1

CD Player:

Harman Kardon 750
NAD 521bee

thanks a lot JulsP168, will definitely audition them! (looks like over my budget though)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: BuLLeT on Jan 24, 2004 at 12:37 PM: Quote from: darkwing on Jan 24, 2004 at 01:57 AM
Hi!

I'm just wondering if the Mission m72 are magnetically shielded? If not, how far would they have to be from a TV set? thanks!

Yup, the Mission 72s are magnetically shielded. :D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jan 24, 2004 at 08:52 PM: Quote from: Larry_Boy on Jan 24, 2004 at 11:45 AM
thanks a lot JulsP168, will definitely audition them! (looks like over my budget though)

theres a rotel ra02 being sold by phones in the assorted buy and sell section. its 14k. thats a real bargain. get hk 750 for 10k at spectra or nad 521 for 13k on any nad dealer. you may opt to buy second hand cd player to cut down your cost. The suggestion still fits your budget. goodluck!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jan 27, 2004 at 05:53 PM: Quote from: sgc_wdi on Jan 09, 2004 at 11:30 AM
discontinued na pala M70 and M70i series? bakit kaya?

i've read sa site ng mission na discontinued na nga. "end of life" na pala and m70/m70i series, may product support pa rin kaya? ???
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Jan 27, 2004 at 11:29 PM: I was testing the Misssion speakers I bought for the HT Im building for someone. Im using a Denon 1803 to drive it and JBL PB12 to complement the bass. After installing all components, I played EP1 and it sounded very weak and harsh. I got scared because I thought that the system I chose is not capable to fill the room ( at least 7m x 9m ). Even the Denon was heating up but on my previous HT project, I also used Denon and Missions and it was a perfect match. On the 2nd disc ( Gladiator ) things went completely the opposite. This time, I have to lower the volume and started tinkering with all the settings. The Mission speakers were starting to set in. Dialogue became clearer and crisp. I was alone in the 3rd floor of a 1000 sq meter house in a 1800 sq meter lot so I can play as loud as I want. Even my workers sleeping on the far end of the lot ( garage ) went up to see what I was doing. I just learned that they can hear and feel the sound. The Mission and the JBL was rocking the house. The pinlights were even blinking so I told my electrician to make sure to check all lighting fixtures. I also tried Desperado Superbit and T2 and it sounded very well. Given more break-in time, I know these Mission speakers will even improve further. Just sharing.

System Used

Mission M73 - Front
Mission M7C2 - Center
Mission M70 - Side and Rear
JBL PB12 - Subs
Denon 1803 - Receiver
Pioneer 525 - DVD Player
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: RMN on Jan 28, 2004 at 01:26 PM: Wow! What a big house! ;D Good yhing you don't have any irate neighbors!!!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 28, 2004 at 01:40 PM: Quote from: r0n1n on Jan 27, 2004 at 05:53 PM
i've read sa site ng mission na discontinued na nga. "end of life" na pala and m70/m70i series, may product support pa rin kaya? ???

Generally, product support exists even after five years of their production end. Brand loyalty depends on that, among others.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jan 28, 2004 at 05:14 PM: Quote from: levi on Jan 27, 2004 at 11:29 PM
I was testing the Misssion speakers I bought for the HT Im building for someone. Im using a Denon 1803 to drive it and JBL PB12 to complement the bass. After installing all components, I played EP1 and it sounded very weak and harsh. I got scared because I thought that the system I chose is not capable to fill the room ( at least 7m x 9m ). Even the Denon was heating up but on my previous HT project, I also used Denon and Missions and it was a perfect match. On the 2nd disc ( Gladiator ) things went completely the opposite. This time, I have to lower the volume and started tinkering with all the settings. The Mission speakers were starting to set in. Dialogue became clearer and crisp. I was alone in the 3rd floor of a 1000 sq meter house in a 1800 sq meter lot so I can play as loud as I want. Even my workers sleeping on the far end of the lot ( garage ) went up to see what I was doing. I just learned that they can hear and feel the sound. The Mission and the JBL was rocking the house. The pinlights were even blinking so I told my electrician to make sure to check all lighting fixtures. I also tried Desperado Superbit and T2 and it sounded very well. Given more break-in time, I know these Mission speakers will even improve further. Just sharing.

System Used

Mission M73 - Front
Mission M7C2 - Center
Mission M70 - Side and Rear
JBL PB12 - Subs
Denon 1803 - Receiver
Pioneer 525 - DVD Player

Nice review levi,

Given more time mas gaganda pa tunog nyan..my system is almost the same sa center,receiver at subs lang lang nagka iba

;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Blade on Jan 28, 2004 at 09:55 PM: bro dex

na-breakin na pala mga missions mo dipa namin naririnig...
kelan ba inuman eb este audition pala...hehe...
kitakits...

blade.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Larry_Boy on Jan 28, 2004 at 10:50 PM: Quote from: JulsP168 on Jan 24, 2004 at 08:52 PM
theres a rotel ra02 being sold by phones in the assorted buy and sell section. its 14k. thats a real bargain. get hk 750 for 10k at spectra or nad 521 for 13k on any nad dealer. you may opt to buy second hand cd player to cut down your cost. The suggestion still fits your budget. goodluck!

JulsP168, maraming maraming salamat ulit!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jan 29, 2004 at 05:06 PM: Quote from: Blade on Jan 28, 2004 at 09:55 PM
bro dex

na-breakin na pala mga missions mo dipa namin naririnig...
kelan ba inuman eb este audition pala...hehe...
kitakits...

blade.

sked natin minsan..medyo kakaiba sked ko ngayon lagi 2-10 he!!he!!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jan 29, 2004 at 09:06 PM: Quote from: av_phile1 on Jan 28, 2004 at 01:40 PM
Generally, product support exists even after five years of their production end. Brand loyalty depends on that, among others.

nice to know that :) nag-iipon pa naman ako para sa first mission ko, newbie pa lang kasi ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: popeye on Feb 22, 2004 at 12:45 AM: up
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Feb 27, 2004 at 04:09 PM: hello there....

another satisfied mission user in here...

m72i - fronts
m7c1 - center
m70i - surrounds
denon 1804 - avr

dont need a sub for now...hehehe happy pa ako sa bass nya.. tsaka baka magalit yung mga katabing units ko dito.... still in the breaking period, di ko nga alam na may break-in period pa ang speakers eh, and I already tried to listen loud once...nung mapaaga ako nang uwi at wala yung mga kapitbahay ko, I cant resist kasi eh.... di ko naman sinagad, hanggang -15 to 12db lang.. oks lang kaya yon? ang ganda nang tunog nya...balance and clean crisp sounds...and I noticed new everyday na ginagamit ko sya...

hmmm...ano kayang magandang back surround para naman magamit ko yung slot para dun?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Feb 27, 2004 at 05:09 PM: Quote from: 5Speed on Feb 27, 2004 at 04:09 PM
hello there....

another satisfied mission user in here...

m72i - fronts
m7c1 - center
m70i - surrounds
denon 1804 - avr

dont need a sub for now...hehehe happy pa ako sa bass nya.. tsaka baka magalit yung mga katabing units ko dito.... still in the breaking period, di ko nga alam na may break-in period pa ang speakers eh, and I already tried to listen loud once...nung mapaaga ako nang uwi at wala yung mga kapitbahay ko, I cant resist kasi eh.... di ko naman sinagad, hanggang -15 to 12db lang.. oks lang kaya yon? ang ganda nang tunog nya...balance and clean crisp sounds...and I noticed new everyday na ginagamit ko sya...

hmmm...ano kayang magandang back surround para naman magamit ko yung slot para dun?

Congrats...yup may break-i period pa yang speakers mo..enjoy
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Feb 27, 2004 at 05:10 PM: Buy m7c2 para sa center mo then bring the m7c1 para sa back surround ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Feb 27, 2004 at 05:40 PM: tnx dexter..

actually dalawa ang slot nung back surround nung 1804 and the manual stated na much better kung dalawa ang gamitin....

I have a small room, and oks na oks na yung m7c1 ko...well I might upgrade it also later...but I have to buy another m7c1 para dalawa yung back surround ko, plus m7c2 pa....yayyy baka yan ang ipaulam sa akin ni kumander....hehehe

hmmm hanap ako nang affordable na back surround...
then velodyne na sub... then DVD-audio/SaCD player then.... paktay na ako nito kay misis....hehehehe kakaadik kasi eh...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: UB40 on Feb 29, 2004 at 08:51 AM: 5Speed

I suggest that every time you buy yourself some audio gears, buy some gifts for the wife too! parang suhol ba para di magalit o di mapansin yung presyo ng binili mo. it work wonders for me and it might work for you also
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Mar 01, 2004 at 01:58 PM: b&t,

tnx, actually ginagawa ko na yan...hehehe medyo nauubusan na nga ako nang idea kung ano pa ang gusto nyang accessories eh...para maisabay ko sa next upgrade ko...hehehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Mar 01, 2004 at 08:33 PM: Quote from: 5Speed on Feb 27, 2004 at 05:40 PM
tnx dexter..

actually dalawa ang slot nung back surround nung 1804 and the manual stated na much better kung dalawa ang gamitin....

I have a small room, and oks na oks na yung m7c1 ko...well I might upgrade it also later...but I have to buy another m7c1 para dalawa yung back surround ko, plus m7c2 pa....yayyy baka yan ang ipaulam sa akin ni kumander....hehehe

hmmm hanap ako nang affordable na back surround...
then velodyne na sub... then DVD-audio/SaCD player then.... paktay na ako nito kay misis....hehehehe kakaadik kasi eh...

Good choice ibang viewing experience na yan pag may sub ka lalo na pag velo ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Grimlock on Mar 02, 2004 at 08:11 AM: hehehe OK yang style na yan ah ;D, buti na lang gusto din ni misis ng HT kaya yung suhol ko ay yung HT gear :D

Quote from: boobs&tubes on Feb 29, 2004 at 08:51 AM
5Speed

I suggest that every time you buy yourself some audio gears, buy some gifts for the wife too! parang suhol ba para di magalit o di mapansin yung presyo ng binili mo. it work wonders for me and it might work for you also
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: random on Mar 04, 2004 at 10:43 AM: hi! may gumagamit na ba sa inyo ng M33 and M34? how much kaya ang price nito? Balak ko sana bilhin alin sa dalawang ito kung saan kakasya sa budget ko.

thanks!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Mar 05, 2004 at 10:05 AM: Guys,

Saw Mission V61 at hyperaudio shop ganda nun sound..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 08, 2004 at 03:11 PM: Quote from: Random on Mar 04, 2004 at 10:43 AM
hi! may gumagamit na ba sa inyo ng M33 and M34? how much kaya ang price nito? Balak ko sana bilhin alin sa dalawang ito kung saan kakasya sa budget ko.

thanks!

Hi ! im using M33, I just brought it home last saturday to replace my beloved M72i. call sir sonny tuazon (Home Theater 813-8443) regarding the price. M33 is soooooo cool !
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: mdsaint3 on Mar 08, 2004 at 05:00 PM: how much m3 series? thjanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Mar 08, 2004 at 08:31 PM: Quote from: mdsaint3 on Mar 08, 2004 at 05:00 PM
how much m3 series? thjanks

Smell's upgrade? ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 09, 2004 at 10:31 AM: Quote from: mdsaint3 on Mar 08, 2004 at 05:00 PM
how much m3 series? thjanks

original price is around 18k, but maybe you can get a discount.
;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 09, 2004 at 10:35 AM: hello pips
here's my problem

I've been in love with my Mission 780 speakers for such a long time now...:)

then comes HT - I wanted to incorporate my 780's as fronts...which budget friendly speakers from Mission would you recommend for center and rears? would a M70 series blend well with my 780's? BTW I noticed di magnetically shielded yung 780's ko... :(

and lastly, am considering a DQ12 for my sub..would this match as well?

anu nga pala bagay na AVR for missions?

thanks much!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 09, 2004 at 12:39 PM: Quote from: tryaudio on Mar 09, 2004 at 10:35 AM
hello pips
here's my problem

I've been in love with my Mission 780 speakers for such a long time now...:)

almost all mission owners love their speakers. :)

Quote
then comes HT - I wanted to incorporate my 780's as fronts...which budget friendly speakers from Mission would you recommend for center and rears? would a M70 series blend well with my 780's? BTW I noticed di magnetically shielded yung 780's ko... :(

if you have a nice budget for this, use the 780 as the rear, get an m33 for front and mc32 for center. (with this, you might think twice if you're still going to get a DQ12 or not)
(around 25-27,000)

if you have a tight budget, get an m30 or m70 for rear and m3c1 for center. (around 11-15,000)

780 may sound a little bit different with m70 and m3 series, because of the materials used with the bass driver and tweeter, plus the power rating of 780.

Quote
and lastly, am considering a DQ12 for my sub..would this match as well?

it depends on what you listen to. DQ12 may sound boomy sometimes. (heavy on bass) but base on my experience, somehow, it works well with my M72i, though i haven't tried using it yet with my m33.

Quote
anu nga pala bagay na AVR for missions?

thanks much!

if budget permits, I prefer NAD or Denon, kaya im praying hard and thinking of selling my DQ12, RXV595 and the NSP60 for the upgrade.
:-(
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 09, 2004 at 01:15 PM: thanks kenchix

i've been thinking for the longest time if I would sell my 780's for an upgrade pero everytime I turn it on to think about it..i would simply say...no, your mine forever..hehe

am on a tight budget pero would really like to jump into the HT bandwagon tomorrow..hehe..how do you guys control the itch? :)

-so this means I have to buy mission centers in the 78 series? para maganda and combi? geesh..this hobby is expensive..hehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 09, 2004 at 01:25 PM: Quote from: tryaudio on Mar 09, 2004 at 01:15 PM
thanks kenchix

i've been thinking for the longest time if I would sell my 780's for an upgrade pero everytime I turn it on to think about it..i would simply say...no, your mine forever..hehe

hehehehe. :D same with my m72i before i let it go. na-inlove ako sa m33 kaya i have to make a decision. :)

Quote
-so this means I have to buy mission centers in the 78 series? para maganda and combi? geesh..this hobby is expensive..hehe

that would be better. :) this hobby is REALLY expensive. :D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 09, 2004 at 01:37 PM: Kenchix,
I'd go visit Melvyn..the Mission dealer..and get to meet M35..she might steal my heart..who knows?

:( I hope he accepts mr. paylite :(

thanks!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Garp on Mar 09, 2004 at 01:45 PM: Are there still M78 speakers available? how much kaya? Tryaudio, is the m780 hard to drive? On paper it looks easy because of the minimum 5.6ohm impedance.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: s2kov on Mar 09, 2004 at 01:49 PM: Garp,

Is the cross-over has the epoxy that holds the components before you replace the capacitor?

Quote from: Garp on Jan 08, 2004 at 09:41 AM
Here are the photos. I'll also change the "white coffin" resistors to better alternatives. Access Frontier has Welwyn wirewounds. If you know where to get Mills resistors aside from partsexpress.com, please share. :)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid97/p4367a43c0b5c701d6d1b8a289fa2f408/fa078301.jpg)

That's the eletrolytic cap I replaced.
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid97/p58a1094c8597024ae31c1772fa7da539/fa0782fd.jpg)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 09, 2004 at 01:56 PM: Garp,

yes..the 780's are quite picky when it comes to amps.
i've tried the high-current rotel 931 and nadc350 but they couldnt seem to make it sing..

am now using a 100watter Luxman integrated..this kinda hits the tee...but a stronger amp would be more suitable says the dealer..something to the tune of 150W :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on Mar 09, 2004 at 01:59 PM: Quote from: tryaudio on Mar 09, 2004 at 01:56 PM
Garp,

yes..the 780's are quite picky when it comes to amps.
i've tried the high-current rotel 931 and nadc350 but they couldnt seem to make it sing..

am now using a 100watter Luxman integrated..this kinda hits the tee...but a stronger amp would be more suitable says the dealer..something to the tune of 150W :)

like a Hafler XL280 ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 09, 2004 at 02:09 PM: Iceman baby! :) hehe
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 09, 2004 at 02:11 PM: Quote from: tryaudio on Mar 09, 2004 at 01:37 PM
Kenchix,
I'd go visit Melvyn..the Mission dealer..and get to meet M35..she might steal my heart..who knows?

:( I hope he accepts mr. paylite :(

thanks!

WOW !! grabe ! i heard m35 and malayo talaga difference sa m33.

How about other speakers ? a lot of people compare mission with monitor audio, maybe it can also change your mind. :)
Though I heard MA-B2 and MA-B4 side by side with M72/M72i/M73i/M74i/M33/M34/M35, it wasn't able to change my mind in getting the m33 (M34,M74i and M35 is out of my budget).
But a friend of mine changed his mind, he got MA-B2, and now he's planning to get an M33 and just use the MA-B2 for the rear.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Garp on Mar 09, 2004 at 02:25 PM: Quote from: s2kov on Mar 09, 2004 at 01:49 PM
Garp,

Is the cross-over has the epoxy that holds the components before you replace the capacitor?

No the one I replaced kasi is a small eletrolytic so hardly any glue used there. I applied glue gun on the Solen after soldering in place. All the other components are glued on so its tricky replacing them.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: s2kov on Mar 09, 2004 at 03:00 PM: Thanks....Cguro nahirapan ka tanggalin yung glue in the electrolytic when removing it.... :) :) :)

Quote from: Garp on Mar 09, 2004 at 02:25 PM
No the one I replaced kasi is a small eletrolytic so hardly any glue used there. I applied glue gun on the Solen after soldering in place. All the other components are glued on so its tricky replacing them.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 09, 2004 at 03:25 PM: Kenchix

I just phoned the dealer and here's how it goes

M33 - 18+k
M34 - 26+k
M35 - 36+k

hehe..mahal pala ng M35 :) parang dream :)
how's your M33 performing pre?

I'll give it an audition first before deciding to let go of my 780 baby :)

thanks
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 09, 2004 at 03:28 PM: my m33 is doing great, still in the break-in stage. :) very very very much satisfied.

I sent you pm. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 09, 2004 at 03:49 PM: replied to your PM kenchix...thanks for the info :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 09, 2004 at 04:26 PM: welcome. replied to your pm. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: skramm on Mar 09, 2004 at 05:06 PM: anybody here tried old-school amps w/ mission speakers? my friend and i auditioned a real old school sansui receiver (sansui 3900Z, 40W x 2 RMS, circa 1978) last night w/ M72i bookshelves. previously, he used a pioneer receiver (120W x 2 RMS). the sound quality improved a whole lot. the sansui gave the M72i's nice clean power (like listening to the new alpine head units w/c produce impressive sound quality, (i'm new in home audio due to car audio), they gave the M72i's real flat, natural sound) unlike the pioneer w/c gave the M72i's heavy, powerful sound (like turning the loud button (bass/treble boost) in car stereos on), even w/ bass and treble settings set to 0. in the pioneer setup, bass was heavy and treble was all over the place, drowning the vocals (we tested 2 norah jones CDs). while in the sansui setup, norah jones was reproduced with merciless precision, bass guitars have the correct size and perfect impact, and these qualities are not diminished as volume is increased.

just my 2 cents. ;D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 09, 2004 at 05:23 PM: As a former user of a Sansui integrated, I've never doubted the brand's ability to make hi-fi sound on any comercial speaker out there. Too bad the brand does not market multi-channel amps and receivers. At least none that i've seen locally.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: random on Mar 09, 2004 at 06:20 PM: kenchix1, thanks for the PM. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 10, 2004 at 09:47 AM: Random :

welcome bro. ask for a discount. :)

tryaudio :

sent u pm pre. wag ka masa-shock. :D

skramm :
bring that sansui over to my place and let's audition it with my m33. ;) don't forget the cables. :D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 10, 2004 at 10:43 AM: Skramm,

I'm using an old Luxman SS integrated amp on my Mission 780's...much better than my previously owned british brand amps...but I guess it was just system matching :)

-experimenting in various combos is an expensive experience so better audition your future purchase first before getting out your wallet- :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: skramm on Mar 10, 2004 at 05:10 PM: Quote from: tryaudio on Mar 10, 2004 at 10:43 AM
Skramm,

I'm using an old Luxman SS integrated amp on my Mission 780's...much better than my previously owned british brand amps...but I guess it was just system matching :)

-experimenting in various combos is an expensive experience so better audition your future purchase first before getting out your wallet- :)

thx for the tip. nice amp. anybody here tried akai or accuphase w/ missions?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 10, 2004 at 05:11 PM: any comment with mission+NAD ?
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: skramm on Mar 10, 2004 at 05:12 PM: Quote from: kenchix1 on Mar 10, 2004 at 09:47 AM
Random :

welcome bro. ask for a discount. :)

tryaudio :

sent u pm pre. wag ka masa-shock. :D

skramm :
bring that sansui over to my place and let's audition it with my m33. ;) don't forget the cables. :D

i believe that the sansui amp would be better w/ your m33s after being broken in to bring out the full detail in them . :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 10, 2004 at 05:17 PM: Kenchix,
NAD is a warm sounding amp..paired with Missions then it would be a good combo...BUT not with the 780's..medyo di sila bagay..parang hirap i-drive ng NAD yung 780's...I really dont know why pero the spec says 87db...50w-150W...hehe..ewan :)

i heard other mission models on the nad and they sound quite well...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 10, 2004 at 05:39 PM: Im still in process of gathering funds for the upgrade. pero kung hindi kaya, mag stay ako sa yamaha siguro or denon nalang bibilhin ko.

thanks for the info. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatbop on Mar 10, 2004 at 10:07 PM: " really dont know why pero the spec says 87db...50w-150W...hehe..ewan
"

Yeah, i noticed the Missions are a little hard to drive- i have to crack really up to hear something. and now i know why. it's only got 87 db sensitivity.

Missions still aren't my favorite speakers. pero for the price they sell for locally- i can't complain really.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 11, 2004 at 10:18 AM: Greatbop,

check out the new M33 series..speakers rated at 92db :)
tube friendly na to :) Kenchix is listening to one right now...hehe

my mission 780 only sounded perfect when it was plugged to this big MF amp...wala naman ako budget for that..:)

Kenchix,
Tell me kung anu bagay ha..denon or yammy :)
I love music pero I like my AVR to perfect good on movies too..thanks dude ..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatbop on Mar 11, 2004 at 10:30 AM: oh, don't realy care about tube friendliness though.

edit: i was just surprised na i have to crack up really high just to get some good volume out of the 781s i recently got. (1803, have to go to atleast -10 sa dial)

It's my temp home theater.. so i can't really complain much. for 9k. (that's 150usd) i think it is a a good buy though.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 11, 2004 at 10:51 AM: thats good speakers you've got :)

enjoy em well!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatbop on Mar 11, 2004 at 11:05 AM: yeah. they are... very very few speakers i can listen to sa price range na yan. So kudos to mission.. i was surprised, actually.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 11, 2004 at 11:10 AM: does denon match well with missions?

am planning of building an HT myself.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: [slayer] on Mar 11, 2004 at 12:41 PM: Mag HK ka na!!! For that warm sounding movies and music. ;D

Quote from: tryaudio on Mar 11, 2004 at 11:10 AM
does denon match well with missions?

am planning of building an HT myself.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 11, 2004 at 01:18 PM: master slayer...

mahal eh pa eh :)

wanna sell yours? for a really brotherly sisterly fatherly price? :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: greatbop on Mar 11, 2004 at 02:14 PM: Yeah.. I think Denon generally matches well with any speakers naman e. especially for Home Theater lang..

at this price point. "speaker and amplifier' matching isn't really important..
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 11, 2004 at 04:09 PM: yes sir. sabihin ko pag nakabili nako. (sana makahanap na ko ng pambili).

Anyway, before, I was using the m72i with the monster cable gauge 16, ok sya warm and smooth ang sound. then i use the same cable with the m33, ok din ang sound. Since i have to let go of the cable, i bought this cheap Audio pro gauge 12 cables. Sobrang bright ng sound, matalas yung high and the bass is not what i wanted. Now, im thinking of the DIY braided CAT 5 cables. I'll post kung ano nangyari. :D
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: 7Even on Mar 12, 2004 at 08:02 AM: May binebenta sa Buy & Sell na HK5500 ah! Mura yun baka maunahan ka pa........

Quote from: tryaudio on Mar 11, 2004 at 01:18 PM
master slayer...

mahal eh pa eh :)

wanna sell yours? for a really brotherly sisterly fatherly price? :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: redmagic on Mar 12, 2004 at 03:54 PM: im using a bookshelf speaker now. im not contented with bass. so im scouting for either a floorstander or a sub. how's the M33 bass? im an HK owner.

thanks in advance!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 12, 2004 at 07:23 PM: Quote from: redmagic on Mar 12, 2004 at 03:54 PM

im using a bookshelf speaker now. im not contented with bass. so im scouting for either a floorstander or a sub. how's the M33 bass? im an HK owner.

thanks in advance!

using the monster cable: 16G
the bass is warm, good for vocals if i may say. Also good for HT. Bass have a punch. (punch is different from boomy,i think) doesn't rattle when the volume is up. vocals are clear. you can visualize the location of the instruments (sound staging ba tawag dyan ?). and the price is also very very good :) . still in the break-in stage.

using the Audio pro cable: 12G
it's boomy, highs too bright. It's out of control (if that is the right term).

used CD of : (i forgot the title of the albums)
Susan Wong
Snow Rose
Jame Taylor
Nat king cole
Jheena lodwick
Sade
Carole King
Desiree (des'ree ba ?)
Mozart
Frank Sinatra
Prodigy
Marlboro sound track

I will post what happen after i change the cables to Braided DIY CAT 5. still in the process of braiding it. :D

Audition the M33, your ears will decide. :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: redmagic on Mar 13, 2004 at 11:05 AM: kenchix1 thanks sa feedback. sent you pm.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: indridcold on Mar 14, 2004 at 03:49 PM: You can audition M33 sa shop ni carlos sa Watt Hi Fi sa MCS.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: redmagic on Mar 15, 2004 at 11:40 AM: meron din bang m35 at m34 sa watt hi fi? nga pala, how does mission perform with hk? yung bang bagong m-series made in malaysia?

tryaudio sent you pm sir.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 15, 2004 at 01:20 PM: meron m34 and m35 sa Home theater here in makati. I haven't audition Mission speakers with HK but im only using Yamaha with it. (I heard it with Unico and Yamaha.)

THEY said that the new M series was made in UK, im not very sure about this.

Try using the braided CAT 5 with it and you'll be amazed! :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: redmagic on Mar 16, 2004 at 04:00 PM: im planning to braid cat5 cables soon but not now. my officemate advised me to try as it has great improvement on his set-up. not now. time consuming eh, kse i'll use my time auditioning hehehe! ;D

kenchix1 thanks for the infos. now i really have to audition this and see if it passes my listening taste.

tryaudio thanks for the pm!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 16, 2004 at 04:07 PM: Quote from: 7Even on Mar 12, 2004 at 08:02 AM
May binebenta sa Buy & Sell na HK5500 ah! Mura yun baka maunahan ka pa........

hehe..andali at ambilis talaga maubos ng pera pag bagong sweldo :)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 24, 2004 at 12:32 PM: I saw redmagic at Home Theater, ina-audition ang m33. ano kayang nangyari ?

:)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: redmagic on Mar 24, 2004 at 02:04 PM: sir kenchix nice meeting you sir! sent you pm ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: redmagic on Mar 24, 2004 at 02:09 PM: Quote from: kenchix1 on Mar 24, 2004 at 12:32 PM
I saw redmagic at Home Theater, ina-audition ang m33. ano kayang nangyari ?

:)

nga pala sir, musta na tunog ng mga susan wong, carol king at james taylor mo? nag-improve ba? feedback naman! ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 24, 2004 at 05:08 PM: congratulations to you sir !!! :) :) :)

This is what i did, I let the thing run for about 2 hours, then i put it the Susan wong 2 CD. and totoo, grabe, It does really have an improvement. It seems that the sounds are not coming from speakers. parang nasa iba ibang part yung tumutugtog. The highs was cut, "extended hissss" was gone, sa bass naman it really rolls, very warm and soft ang bass. and now, i can listen to music for hours ng walang listening fatigue. sobra layo ng tunog nung walang akong X10-D.

:)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: redmagic on Mar 26, 2004 at 03:40 PM: Quote from: kenchix1 on Mar 24, 2004 at 05:08 PM
congratulations to you sir !!! :) :) :)

This is what i did, I let the thing run for about 2 hours, then i put it the Susan wong 2 CD. and totoo, grabe, It does really have an improvement. It seems that the sounds are not coming from speakers. parang nasa iba ibang part yung tumutugtog. The highs was cut, "extended hissss" was gone, sa bass naman it really rolls, very warm and soft ang bass. and now, i can listen to music for hours ng walang listening fatigue. sobra layo ng tunog nung walang akong X10-D.

:)

owrite! congrats sa bago mong listening pleasure! mas mapapahaba ang pakikinig m ngayon nyan. so ano naman bago mong pinagkaka abalahan ngayon??? hunting for new avr? ;D pre, maganda combi ng hk at mission. ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: wanderlust on Mar 26, 2004 at 04:12 PM: Quote from: kenchix1 on Mar 24, 2004 at 05:08 PM
congratulations to you sir !!! :) :) :)

This is what i did, I let the thing run for about 2 hours, then i put it the Susan wong 2 CD. and totoo, grabe, It does really have an improvement. It seems that the sounds are not coming from speakers. parang nasa iba ibang part yung tumutugtog. The highs was cut, "extended hissss" was gone, sa bass naman it really rolls, very warm and soft ang bass. and now, i can listen to music for hours ng walang listening fatigue. sobra layo ng tunog nung walang akong X10-D.

:)

bro sent u a pm.....
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Mar 27, 2004 at 12:38 PM: Quote from: redmagic on Mar 26, 2004 at 03:40 PM
owrite! congrats sa bago mong listening pleasure! mas mapapahaba ang pakikinig m ngayon nyan. so ano naman bago mong pinagkaka abalahan ngayon??? hunting for new avr? ;D pre, maganda combi ng hk at mission. ;)

papalit lang ako ng center next week, then pahinga muna sa gastos. sunod sunod kasi e (m33,x10d,m7c2). malupit talaga tumunog yang HK, mangangarap nalang muna ko. hehehehe.. :D

wanderlust:
sent you pm.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: redmagic on Mar 29, 2004 at 11:41 AM: ako nga din sir eh lay low. medyo wait muna next gastos. i'll save up muna for a sub (hmmm... velo kaya?) pahinga muna. my card is complaining na nga. puro blisters and sore na daw sya sa kaka-swipe ;D ;D ;D

in the meantime, i'll enjoy listening muna ;)
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: kid on Apr 05, 2004 at 05:45 PM: Last sat., i was in carlos888 shop (Watt Hifi). we listened to his setup of rotel rcd02, nad amp and m33. I like the performance of these new mission speakers. we listened from rock to jazz music and its great. i will definitely get one of these babies... hehehe... ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 21, 2004 at 12:38 PM: helping my friend

mga bro sino at saan kaya ako makakabili ng cheap 2ndhand m72i budget 7k.
pls help ;)

thanks O0
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kid on Apr 21, 2004 at 05:19 PM: Mukhang madalang ang nagbebenta ng mission speakers dito bro.... isa rin ko sa mga naghahanap dati until i saw this kef speaker kaya un ang naampon ko. :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 21, 2004 at 05:29 PM: I think there still are, check out the buy and sell section. Wharfes and Missions are among the most popular here and changing hands between members are common. Maybe, medyo mahina na ngayon, but there was a time in the past so many FS items on Mission speakers were being posted.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kid on Apr 21, 2004 at 05:57 PM: Vhongbiker,
There can be a lot of good deals here in the buy n sell section (mid year bonus na! ;D ;D ;D), i think your friend is not in a hurry to grab one. btw, have u bought ur mission speaker na? i remember your post and looking for a mission speaker.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Apr 21, 2004 at 11:50 PM: Try Hyperaudio.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Vhongbiker on Apr 22, 2004 at 06:11 AM: Quote from: punk_kid on Apr 21, 2004 at 05:57 PM
Vhongbiker,
There can be a lot of good deals here in the buy n sell section (mid year bonus na! ;D ;D ;D), i think your friend is not in a hurry to grab one. btw, have u bought ur mission speaker na? i remember your post and looking for a mission speaker.

hindi pa nga eh, wala pang nagpost. musta naman kef mo? we are also considering the kef cresta series, 91 db sya, kaya lang hintay daw muna, kasi mission talaga gusto nya.

thanks anyway,
and sir levi pm ko na si hyperaudio, thanks also
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kid on Apr 22, 2004 at 09:36 AM: Quote from: vhongbiker on Apr 22, 2004 at 06:11 AM
hindi pa nga eh, wala pang nagpost. musta naman kef mo? we are also considering the kef cresta series, 91 db sya, kaya lang hintay daw muna, kasi mission talaga gusto nya.

satisfied naman ko sa performance ng kef, it is only rated at 88db pero ok ang sounds nya. m planning to buy an XLO speaker wire after na mahiram ko ung pang testing sa watt hifi baka sakaling my improvement sa tunog ng kef. i happen to borrower an M70 and tested on my system. masyadong bright para sa pandinig ko kaya i opted to get the kef Q10. Isa pa, sony cdp lang kasi ang source ko kaya parang eto ung weak point sa setup ko.

try nyo bro ang ibang brands baka my magustuhan ung friend mo.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Apr 28, 2004 at 01:20 PM: bump
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on May 01, 2004 at 05:55 PM: How does one compare volare series of mission against b & w 600 series 3?
???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Narayan on May 01, 2004 at 08:58 PM: bro,

suggest you make an audition of both brands at the home theatre...they carry both models
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on May 09, 2004 at 04:08 PM: have narrowed down my choice of speakers for ht 70% and audio 30%, between the new volare series and the 780se, can anyone help me? ??? ;) :-[
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Narayan on May 10, 2004 at 10:54 AM: Quote from: mattmatt on May 09, 2004 at 04:08 PM
have narrowed down my choice of speakers for ht 70% and audio 30%, between the new volare series and the 780se, can anyone help me? ??? ;) :-[

suggest you audition both at mission dealers or at DCM in cubao and bring your gears to be able to decide objectively...in the end, only you will have to live with your choice...so make it yourself and not rely too much on others' opinions ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on May 10, 2004 at 06:15 PM: Quote from: Narayan on May 10, 2004 at 10:54 AM

suggest you audition both at mission dealers or at DCM in cubao and bring your gears to be able to decide objectively...in the end, only you will have to live with your choice...so make it yourself and not rely too much on others' opinions ;)
inspite of the audition at DCM at hometheater, still undecided..so pls. help na lang!!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on May 10, 2004 at 07:52 PM: Quote from: mattmatt on May 09, 2004 at 04:08 PM
have narrowed down my choice of speakers for ht 70% and audio 30%, between the new volare series and the 780se, can anyone help me? ??? ;) :-[

if you cant decide between the sound of the two - my vote goes to the 780 series (mas pogi tingnan ;D )
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on May 10, 2004 at 08:08 PM: Quote from: iceman90a on May 10, 2004 at 07:52 PM

if you cant decide between the sound of the two - my vote goes to the 780 series (mas pogi tingnan ;D )
thanks bro, volare is 20-100watts, 780 is 50-150watts, considering around 110 rms ang avreceivers ko, di ba mas maximize kung yung volare ang kunin ko?? still confused??? ??? ??? :-\ O0 ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: iceman90a on May 11, 2004 at 07:50 AM: Quote from: mattmatt on May 10, 2004 at 08:08 PM

thanks bro, volare is 20-100watts, 780 is 50-150watts, considering around 110 rms ang avreceivers ko, di ba mas maximize kung yung volare ang kunin ko?? still confused??? ??? ??? :-\ O0 ;)

dont worry too much about specs, look at it this way: will you really be playing at 110 watts? how big is your room? whats the point of knowing it can go higher if you're not going to use it anyway?

like the other thread (what made you buy your speakers) check the following:

1. sound
2. budget
3. purpose
4. looks

but dont listen to me - confused din ako eh ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: john5479 on May 11, 2004 at 08:09 AM: if you've auditioned both and still undecided, base your decision on what matches your budget and your room. in my opinion its better to prioritize how your speaker matches your gears rather than what has a higher power rating. O0
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on May 11, 2004 at 03:45 PM: mattmatt,

Sound is VERY important not the spec.. give importance more to MATCHING amp and speaker!!

btw i have a 30 watts amp driving my 150 watts speaker
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on May 25, 2004 at 10:23 PM: Aside from the steep price, will appreciate your thoughts on comparison between mission bookshelves(23k) vs. floorstanders speakers(61k).(780se vs. 782se), is it really worth it ??Onkyo txnr 900 ang avreceivers..thanks!! ??? ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: number1 on May 26, 2004 at 10:15 AM: has anyone tried testing side by side these mission floorstander speakers (782 se) with the more affordable monitor audio B4? results?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: zakkaz on May 27, 2004 at 10:22 AM: Quote from: number1 on May 26, 2004 at 10:15 AM
has anyone tried testing side by side these mission floorstander speakers (782 se) with the more affordable monitor audio B4? results?
for the comparison of the two, the mission speaker 782se will perform better than the B4
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bebot santos on May 27, 2004 at 12:19 PM: talaga bang mas maganda pa rin ang 782 kesa sa b4? well nde ko pa naman napakinggan ang 782 pero ang b4 natural na natural ang sound lalo na sa hi's. katakam takam eh.. pero let`s hear it from the other..
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on May 27, 2004 at 03:28 PM: bebot santos,

782 and B4... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: s2kov on May 27, 2004 at 03:54 PM: You can not compare B4 with 782se, imagine price difference p lng laki na agwat. But if sonic difference is not that far, i would go for B4.... IMO ;) ;) ;)

Quote from: zakkaz on May 27, 2004 at 10:22 AM

for the comparison of the two, the mission speaker 782se will perform better than the B4
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bebot santos on May 27, 2004 at 06:29 PM: hmmm gud idea hans.. kapag nagkapera bili lng ng bili heheheheh
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on May 27, 2004 at 07:43 PM: Quote from: s2kov on May 27, 2004 at 03:54 PM
You can not compare B4 with 782se, imagine price difference p lng laki na agwat. But if sonic difference is not that far, i would go for B4.... IMO ;) ;) ;) for the record, magkano ba ang B4, yung 782 i know is around php 45,000, but the 782se is 62k, much expensive...but in contrast sa bookshelf nila 780 is 19k vs. 780se of 23k..can not understand why sa floor super mahal..have anyone tried mission volare v63 EISA awardee pa ito , floorstands and costs only 39,000 daw...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: s2kov on May 27, 2004 at 08:07 PM: 25K? or less?
Title: Re: Mission speakers book shelves vs. floorstanders
Post by: mattmatt on May 30, 2004 at 08:34 AM: I have narrowed down my choices to 783 or 782 se or 780se? to be match with onkyo txnr900 for a 12 x 17 ft. room..advice needed, thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on May 31, 2004 at 06:47 PM: mattmatt,

If your going to use this setup for audio and HT better get the floorstander for your fronts..
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on May 31, 2004 at 07:01 PM: Quote from: hans & france on May 31, 2004 at 06:47 PM
mattmatt,

If your going to use this setup for audio and HT better get the floorstander for your fronts..
why?malaki ba ang difference against bookshelves?
as per stuazon, he will go for 783 over 782se..2k difference lang naman..
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: john5479 on May 31, 2004 at 07:31 PM: Quote from: mattmatt on May 31, 2004 at 07:01 PM

why?malaki ba ang difference against bookshelves?
as per stuazon, he will go for 783 over 782se..2k difference lang naman..

floorstanders have more bass weight and less concern for stands, bookshelves though have their advantages as well.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 01, 2004 at 08:03 AM: mattmatt,

For me floorstander will provide you more muscle sa HT yun may dating ang sound not just sound that pass you by.. lalo na with a sub..
for Audio full range na no need for sub except for rock and disco syempre dapat meron.. bookshelf, best imaging pero lack low bass so they pair it with a sub.. problem is the integration usually naiiwan yun sub... unless you match with a musical sub (REL ouch!).. wla ka na problem hehehehe ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on Jun 01, 2004 at 06:33 PM: Quote from: hans & france on Jun 01, 2004 at 08:03 AM
mattmatt,

For me floorstander will provide you more muscle sa HT yun may dating ang sound not just sound that pass you by.. lalo na with a sub..
for Audio full range na no need for sub except for rock and disco syempre dapat meron.. bookshelf, best imaging pero lack low bass so they pair it with a sub.. problem is the integration usually naiiwan yun sub... unless you match with a musical sub (REL ouch!).. wla ka na problem hehehehe ;D
if u ask stuazon, ang sub nya velodyne daw..even with floorstands na..
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jun 01, 2004 at 06:46 PM: Quote from: mattmatt on Jun 01, 2004 at 06:33 PM

if u ask stuazon, ang sub nya velodyne daw..even with floorstands na..

Cause velodyne is a very good subs..got thia combo too..Mission m73i Floorsatnders and Velodyne CHT-8 subs
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:29 PM: i've bought a M7C2 center yesterday...paired it with my 780 for fronts...with some DTX rears...all i can say - MISSION accomplished talaga O0
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:34 PM: Quote from: tryaudio on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:29 PM
i've bought a M7C2 center yesterday...paired it with my 780 for fronts...with some DTX rears...all i can say - MISSION accomplished talaga O0

Pre, magkano score mo? may nakita ka bang M7C2 na silver color?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:52 PM: Quote from: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:34 PM

Pre, magkano score mo? may nakita ka bang M7C2 na silver color?

I got it at rene's place for P9,675...kasi on sale ;D
yun nalang model nila dun pre...and also I dont think they have silver on these models..not so sure but I think your reffering to the M7C1? correct me if i'm wrong..hehe

cheers!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:58 PM: Quote from: tryaudio on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:52 PM
I got it at rene's place for P9,675...kasi on sale ;D
yun nalang model nila dun pre...and also I dont think they have silver on these models..not so sure but I think your reffering to the M7C1? correct me if i'm wrong..hehe

cheers!

Merong silver m7c2 very limited nga lang. Gustong ko sanang gawing center rear yung m7c1 ko tapos center front itong m7c2.

Nga pala, try mong gawing m70 or m71 yung rear mo para mas balanse ang tunog.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: slayer on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:59 PM: try,

Bili pa ng isang center para sa RC. 6.1 NA!! >:D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:17 PM: Quote from: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:58 PM

Merong silver m7c2 very limited nga lang. Gustong ko sanang gawing center rear yung m7c1 ko tapos center front itong m7c2.

Nga pala, try mong gawing m70 or m71 yung rear mo para mas balanse ang tunog.

JT,
i'm getting mission M72's for fronts muna..para i can allocate my 780's for audio-only set-up...i might get M70 din sa rears...kaso pudpud na card ko...hahaha..
BTW - mission boy kadin pala :)

Quote from: slayer on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:59 PM
try,

Bili pa ng isang center para sa RC. 6.1 NA!! >:D

slayer - pa-change oil muna ako...:)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:35 PM: Quote from: tryaudio on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:17 PM
JT,
i'm getting mission M72's for fronts muna..para i can allocate my 780's for audio-only set-up...i might get M70 din sa rears...kaso pudpud na card ko...hahaha..
BTW - mission boy kadin pala :)

Yup, Im also using yammy 440 with m7c1 astaka apat na m70 which are all silver colors. I'm looking for silver m7c2 at any silver mission subwoofer for my next upgrade.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:46 PM: Quote from: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:35 PM

Yup, Im also using yammy 440 with m7c1 astaka apat na m70 which are all silver colors. I'm looking for silver m7c2 at any silver mission subwoofer for my next upgrade.

cool pre! how's the performance? :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:56 PM: Quote from: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:35 PM

Yup, Im also using yammy 440 with m7c1 astaka apat na m70 which are all silver colors. I'm looking for silver m7c2 at any silver mission subwoofer for my next upgrade.

Pre galing yan ah silver have not seen silver color mission mostly black..
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:58 PM: Quote from: tryaudio on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:46 PM
cool pre! how's the performance? :)

Enjoy talaga pre. Capable yung m70 to handle movies and music for small to medium rooms. Tsaka na lang ako mag floorstanders kapag meron nang dedicated HT room.

Match ang yammy at mission, mababasa mong madalas sa mga reviews esp sa What Hi-Fi magazines.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 04:01 PM: Quote from: hans & france on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:56 PM
Pre galing yan ah silver have not seen silver color mission mostly black..

Very limited yung silver mission speakers kaya yun ang napili ko. Maraming available na beech at black color.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 16, 2004 at 05:11 PM: Quote from: JT on Jun 16, 2004 at 03:58 PM

Enjoy talaga pre. Capable yung m70 to handle movies and music for small to medium rooms. Tsaka na lang ako mag floorstanders kapag meron nang dedicated HT room.

Match ang yammy at mission, mababasa mong madalas sa mga reviews esp sa What Hi-Fi magazines.

all i can say - MISSION accomplished sir... O0
nice to hear i didnt make the wrong choice...i followed my ears eh..of course i'm biased :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 16, 2004 at 05:35 PM: tryaudio,

Congrats for a MISSION accomplish setup!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Jun 16, 2004 at 05:58 PM: hans and france

thanks po sir..bow ;D O0 O0
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jun 17, 2004 at 11:02 AM: guys,

Mission Accomplished din ako for my HT setup. ;)

i am a proud owner of mission M73i, Mc1i and M70i series. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sebman on Jun 17, 2004 at 11:22 AM: Quote from: JulsP168 on Jun 17, 2004 at 11:02 AM
guys,

Mission Accomplished din ako for my HT setup. ;)

i am a proud owner of mission M73i, Mc1i and M70i series. ;D

congrats sir.. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jun 17, 2004 at 11:44 AM: Congrats sa lahat ng MISSIONaries !!!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jun 18, 2004 at 09:56 AM: Quote from: sebman on Jun 17, 2004 at 11:22 AM

congrats sir.. :)

thanks bro. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bayonic on Jun 19, 2004 at 09:00 PM: how about the Mission Volare series ? any owner's review ?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Jun 25, 2004 at 03:33 PM: I'm also a happy owner of mission speakers myself.... I have M72i's for fronts, M7c1 for center, M70's for rear and 2 back surrounds.....ano kaya magandang subs to pair with missions? I am scouting for a sub right now andaming pagpipilian, parang ang hirap magdecide....I am looking into a low to mid price na sub....any recommendations??
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on Jun 26, 2004 at 08:14 AM: Hi, Im using dynaquest 120 sub for my all mission HT set up. I think the combination is great considering the price of the sub.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on Jun 26, 2004 at 09:06 PM: Quote from: Titanium on Jun 26, 2004 at 08:14 AM
Hi, Im using dynaquest 120 sub for my all mission HT set up. I think the combination is great considering the price of the sub.
How much is dynaquest 120?? and where did u buy it??
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: estan on Jun 27, 2004 at 11:20 PM: guys, what do you think of the new mission m3 series?? lalo na yung m33 and m34? may nag audition na ba sa inyo nito? I'm currently choosing between m33, m34 and AE evo3... ano ba mas ok for home theater? btw, i will use this with harman's avr230..
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: wanderlust on Jun 28, 2004 at 04:57 PM: though i have not yet owned one i have on several occassions heard the m33, and i say the sound is quite good for its price, but what wowed me was when i heard it connected to an all exposure set-up, i never thought that a speaker could sound so good, d k na ng nkilala tunog nya e.

personally though ill choose the AE evo3 over the m3 series.

i however have not listened to it in an HT set-up, but i suggest sir, that the best set-up would always be an all the same brand set-up, as different brands do have there own diffrent tonal characteristics, and a halo-halo set-up would only bring out the worse of your speakers.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 28, 2004 at 05:25 PM: Quote from: estan on Jun 27, 2004 at 11:20 PM
guys, what do you think of the new mission m3 series?? lalo na yung m33 and m34? may nag audition na ba sa inyo nito? I'm currently choosing between m33, m34 and AE evo3... ano ba mas ok for home theater? btw, i will use this with harman's avr230..

Have auditioned the AE evo3 with HK AVR before it was introduced and i believe they are good match balance sound for audio/ HT... IMHO Mission /Hk AVR paired may kinda bright for my taste..(my experienced M73i / HK5500 before for audio) but with proper speaker cable you can tame the brightness... for HT the mission may outperformed the AE evo3.. :) :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Rivalz on Jul 08, 2004 at 12:11 PM: Mga sir anyone using these speakers?

- 773e (Fronts)
- 77C1 (Center)
- 77DS (Surrounds)
- 7AS2 (Subs)

Any reviews? What are the prevailing prices? Thinking of getting them for the Living room for HT and Audio as a friend of mine is selling them. Thanks!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Rivalz on Jul 08, 2004 at 03:17 PM: Mga sir just got the prices in what do you think of the offer? Fair ba yung mga presyo for second hand units? I still have to see and auditon them personally but they are seldom used I know as he is seldom home.

- 773e Php 28K
- 77C1 Php13,500
- 77DS Php15,500
- 7AS2 Sub Php26K
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Audioboy on Jul 08, 2004 at 03:58 PM: Quote from: estan on Jun 27, 2004 at 11:20 PM
guys, what do you think of the new mission m3 series?? lalo na yung m33 and m34? may nag audition na ba sa inyo nito? I'm currently choosing between m33, m34 and AE evo3... ano ba mas ok for home theater? btw, i will use this with harman's avr230..

either mission or AE can go well with harman AVR.

for me, ang mas ok eh yung mas mura. ;D

if you have the money, go for AE.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Jul 08, 2004 at 04:52 PM: Quote from: Rivalz on Jul 08, 2004 at 03:17 PM
Mga sir just got the prices in what do you think of the offer? Fair ba yung mga presyo for second hand units? I still have to see and auditon them personally but they are seldom used I know as he is seldom home.

- 773e Php 28K
- 77C1 Php13,500
- 77DS Php15,500
- 7AS2 Sub Php26K

The Mission Cinema 7 System, that is, 773e+77c1+77ds, including the 7as2 sub, was a very highly regarded setup in many reviews 4-5 years ago. I doubt if they are still available brand new in the market since they have been superseded by newer mission speaker lines.

If you can get them at very good prices, and assuming they are in excellent condition, you will not regret it. (If I had the budget several years ago, I would have gotten this. Instead I settled for m74 fronts and m7ds and the 77c1 center--this center speaker I got for, take note, P14,000, 3 years ago.)

For the prices quoted to you however, I suggest you canvass/audition around. I'm not updated with prices but I believe you have a lot more choices--even from the mission line--that are brand new at those prices.

GAOL
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Rivalz on Jul 08, 2004 at 05:20 PM: Ty Sir Gaol,

Will check the prices of the new ones as well unless he lowers the price maybe by 50%? Fight na!!! >:D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Jul 09, 2004 at 04:38 PM: Quote from: JulsP168 on Jun 17, 2004 at 11:02 AM
guys,

Mission Accomplished din ako for my HT setup. ;)

i am a proud owner of mission M73i, Mc1i and M70i series. ;D

Cool ! I'm still for the day to come na makompleto ko yung sa akin.

Quote from: estan on Jun 27, 2004 at 11:20 PM
guys, what do you think of the new mission m3 series?? lalo na yung m33 and m34? may nag audition na ba sa inyo nito? I'm currently choosing between m33, m34 and AE evo3... ano ba mas ok for home theater? btw, i will use this with harman's avr230..
It's bias if I'll say na you get the m33 or M34, BUT, if ever I'll choose then I'll get the M33 or M34. I've been using M33 for more than 6 months, and I use it everyday. The clarity of that speaker never fades nor fails. Some people might think that I am saying this because I have an M33, but the truth is I really like the Mission speakers because of very good mid-range and I like the sound of the silk dome tweeters, kasi very soft and hindi masakit sa tenga ang highs (I onced owned an M72i). If you'll compare it with metal tweeters, malayo siempre and it's up to you to decide regarding the highs. With regards M34 and M33, mostly likely you'll hear the difference on the lower tone or sa mid-range. If you have a tight budget and plan to get a sub-woofer, then I suggest you get an M33 because it is cheaper and a good subwoofer (and I mean good subwoofer capable of less than 22Hz) can compensate the lack of bass or lower tone of your mid-range.

I also use my M33 with Luxman PD-277 turntable and the sound for me is really outstanding.

If you have a big budget, forget M33 and M34, get the Volare! :)

But still in the end, you should listen talaga and let your ears decide. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Titanium on Jul 09, 2004 at 04:42 PM: Quote from: mattmatt on Jun 26, 2004 at 09:06 PM

How much is dynaquest 120?? and where did u buy it??

Sorry for late reply. I bought the dynaquest at Greenhills, almost a year ago. It cost me P6200 then. I forgot the namne of the store but its in Dao lane.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: redmagic on Jul 09, 2004 at 06:56 PM: Quote from: estan on Jun 27, 2004 at 11:20 PM
guys, what do you think of the new mission m3 series?? lalo na yung m33 and m34? may nag audition na ba sa inyo nito? I'm currently choosing between m33, m34 and AE evo3... ano ba mas ok for home theater? btw, i will use this with harman's avr230..

im an m33 owner, using it with my hk130. i also have m3c2 center. good for HT.
take it from kenchix1, he's to blame for my purchase of m33 ;D ;D ;D

was suppose to buy either B4 or Evo3, but suddenly changed my mind. mura eh! hehehe!
no regrets though! very satisfied and happy. look o --> ;D ;D ;D

by the way, i have Evo1 for surround ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Jul 10, 2004 at 09:14 AM: Quote from: redmagic on Jul 09, 2004 at 06:56 PM
im an m33 owner, using it with my hk130. i also have m3c2 center. good for HT.
take it from kenchix1, he's to blame for my purchase of m33 ;D ;D ;D

was suppose to buy either B4 or Evo3, but suddenly changed my mind. mura eh! hehehe!
no regrets though! very satisfied and happy. look o --> ;D ;D ;D

by the way, i have Evo1 for surround ;D

nope. wala akong alam diyan, Im innocent. :D hehehehehe..

B4 and Evo3 are really good as compared to M33, BUT it's to pricey. Sobra layo ng difference e. Baka bumuga na ng lupa yung wallet ko. hehehehehe.. :D

Im waiting for something, I hope i can get the M72i for my surround.
Listen to V61, maiinlove ka dun. hehehehehe.. :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Jul 27, 2004 at 03:51 PM: got a sub already for my mission/denon setup...... Brand is Magnat...a german audio company.... quite happy with it....good for music either....hehehe

anybody knew this brand?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kid on Jul 27, 2004 at 05:14 PM: pang car audio setup yan sir ah, my friend is selling his magnat car amp.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Jul 27, 2004 at 05:35 PM: yes magnat also have an audio products for automobiles...comparable to MB Quartz....hehehe but they have a lot of audio products as well for home setup...

wala yatang distributor nito dyan sa pinas eh...pang car audio lang...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jul 27, 2004 at 06:02 PM: Quote from: 5Speed on Jul 27, 2004 at 03:51 PM
got a sub already for my mission/denon setup...... Brand is Magnat...a german audio company.... quite happy with it....good for music either....hehehe

anybody knew this brand?

Pre, anong model at saan mo nabili? Ang alam ko Magnat specializes on car speakers.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Jul 28, 2004 at 06:04 PM: JT,

Hong Kong.... a lot of choices regarding speakers in here....:) sometimes it is quite confusing already...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jul 28, 2004 at 06:17 PM: sir kenchix and redmagic,
magkano sir kuha nyo sa m33/m34 and saang shop na din? thanks ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Jul 29, 2004 at 04:56 PM: Quote from: r0n1n on Jul 28, 2004 at 06:17 PM
sir kenchix and redmagic,
magkano sir kuha nyo sa m33/m34 and saang shop na din? thanks ;D

m33, you can get it for around 15k-16k, brand new.
regarding the shop try Hometheater or hhhmmm... i forgot the other shop located at makati cinema square ! :D Elmo/Carlos what is the name of your shop again ? :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: estan on Aug 12, 2004 at 09:56 PM: guys,

any comments/reviews on the m33's? Wala kasi akong masyadong mahanap na review sa net and sa magazines. I'm planning to get either the AE evo1 or m33's.. ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Aug 16, 2004 at 11:43 AM: Mga pre,
Advice naman, mura ba itong M52 for 15k?

(http://www.mission.co.uk/product/m5/images/loudspeaker_m52_hires_offax.jpg)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: redmagic on Aug 17, 2004 at 03:28 PM: Quote from: estan on Aug 12, 2004 at 09:56 PM
guys,

any comments/reviews on the m33's? Wala kasi akong masyadong mahanap na review sa net and sa magazines. I'm planning to get either the AE evo1 or m33's.. ???

kaibigan, dont rely too much on reviews. even if the reviews are good, the question is, would you have the same gears the reviewers had when they listened to it? it will sound different on different setups. its better for you to audition with your gears.

i have both evo1 and m33. i use m33 for front and evo1 for surround in my HT setup. evo1 also doubles for my audio listening, in the meatime until ....... hehehe! :-X >:D ;D

what's your receiver?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: redmagic on Aug 17, 2004 at 03:30 PM: estan,

you may also want to consider usher 9801. its in the price range. go visit archi audio. sounds good with hk. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: redmagic on Aug 17, 2004 at 03:31 PM: estan,

you may also want to consider usher 9801. its in the price range. go visit archi audio. sounds good with hk. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: akyatbundok on Aug 17, 2004 at 03:49 PM: Quote from: JT on Aug 16, 2004 at 11:43 AM
Mga pre,
Advice naman, mura ba itong M52 for 15k?

JT, mura yan m52 sa 15k, quote dati sakin for the 5.1-setup using that as fronts was 100k, kasama yung malaking sub, di ko lang alam kung magkano yung m52 as separate pair.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 17, 2004 at 03:54 PM: Quote from: kenchix1 on Jul 29, 2004 at 04:56 PM

i forgot the other shop located at makati cinema square ! :D Elmo/Carlos what is the name of your shop again ? :D

it is WATT HI-FI sir. they have an exclusive thread here, heres the link:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=20318.0

;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: wanderlust on Aug 17, 2004 at 03:56 PM: sir jt, ganda ah.

san yong price na na-iqoute mo sir? for a brand new unit ba yan?

thnx.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Aug 19, 2004 at 07:04 PM: Quote from: wanderlust on Aug 17, 2004 at 03:56 PM
sir jt, ganda ah.

san yong price na na-iqoute mo sir? for a brand new unit ba yan?

thnx.

almost 2yrs old na pero mint condition. Ang problema ko eh pag binili ko ito, gusto ko rin mabili yung matching center at rear speaker models. Gastos na naman.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Calvin on Sep 03, 2004 at 02:49 PM: Peeps, maybe you can help. I'm planning to buy Mission surround speakers that will complement my M73i, balita ko kasi phase-out na pala yung M70i/M70. So anong klaseng mission surrounds na lang ang bilhin ko and where..or baka naman me alam pa kayong store na nag-sell ng M70i
Thanks :-[
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: levi on Sep 03, 2004 at 04:42 PM: Try Hyperaudio.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Sep 15, 2004 at 04:00 PM: Calvin,

If you cannot find an M70i you can use M71 instead. Its quite larger than M70i but I think it will fit and complement your M73i..
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: silhouette on Sep 30, 2004 at 02:24 PM: bro, go with the M71 or 71i na lang. ganyan din set up ko before, then upgrade the m70 to 71i. ty mo kay Amiel sa tech central 8111668.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Oct 05, 2004 at 12:00 PM: Mga pre,
Anyone knows where to buy MS8 subwoofer, yung silver color.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on Nov 15, 2004 at 08:30 PM: I know wala pa dito yung mission elegante, but any comments on this welcomed...coming soon daw says distributor...
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: okidocki on Nov 29, 2004 at 04:12 PM: Quote from: JhunDV on May 21, 2002 at 12:50 PM
I'm currently using a pair of M72 in my setup connected to an Onkyo 494 receiver. I can say that I'm very satisfied with the performance of the M72, be it in movies or in music. At first, medyo parang bitin ang tunog but after 1 week of breaking-in, it started churning out beautiful sound that seems to get better everytime i listened. With regards to the bass, for me it's adequate maybe because of the small size of my room.

I also auditioned the B&W DM303 before i bought the M72. I didn't find much difference in sound but the M72 actually has a little more bass. I decided on the M72 because it's a little cheaper and it's also biwirable unlike the DM303.

I can say that my M72 paired with the Onkyo 494 is an adequate setup (love it especially in music), but i heard it paired with the Yamaha and it also sound great. And the Yamaha 530 has more power than the 494. But I think it's better for you to try it yourself auditioning the M72 together with your probable receivers and remember that what matters most is the quality of sound and power is secondary. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: okidocki on Nov 29, 2004 at 04:19 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on May 21, 2002 at 01:12 AM
hi all!
Quote from: JT on Aug 16, 2004 at 11:43 AM
Mga pre,
Advice naman, mura ba itong M52 for 15k?

(http://www.mission.co.uk/product/m5/images/loudspeaker_m52_hires_offax.jpg)

Pwede po malaman which is better, a 74i model floor stnding or a B&W 602 s3,tnx po
any thoughts on these speakers? was able to demo the Mission M72 (and the M71) at the HT. i liked the sound though the bass seemed lacking. considering that these are merely bookshelf speakers, am not too surprised though. would appreciate any feedback from owners of these models, or any Mission speaker for that matter. am choosing between the M72s and the B&w 303, or if my budget can stretch a bit, a little more high-end speakers, in the P15 range. my probable receiver is either the yamaha 530, onkyo 494 or the denon 1602.

thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Dec 07, 2004 at 03:44 PM: Quote from: Calvin on Sep 03, 2004 at 02:49 PM
Peeps, maybe you can help. I'm planning to buy Mission surround speakers that will complement my M73i, balita ko kasi phase-out na pala yung M70i/M70. So anong klaseng mission surrounds na lang ang bilhin ko and where..or baka naman me alam pa kayong store na nag-sell ng M70i
Thanks :-[

get the m71i. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: silhouette on Dec 17, 2004 at 11:34 AM: Quote from: kenchix1 on Dec 07, 2004 at 03:44 PM

get the m71i. :)

Hmmm... i still have d M70 series. M71i actually, and i'm planning to sell.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Dec 22, 2004 at 06:14 PM: Quote from: silhouette on Dec 17, 2004 at 11:34 AM
Hmmm... i still have d M70 series. M71i actually, and i'm planning to sell.

then you can sell it to calvin if he is looking for surround speaker that will compliment his m73i. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kenchix1 on Jan 07, 2005 at 12:46 PM: Magkano na ba ang M34i ngayon ? ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Jan 20, 2005 at 05:38 AM: anyone auditioned the m3 series? m32 or m33? how do they compare to the m7 series?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: zap|JDM on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:24 PM: up for the Missions
;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:27 PM: Available ba ang mission ms8 subwoofer dyan?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Jairus on Mar 02, 2005 at 02:03 PM: Available pa ba m7 series? a friend wants to pair this with his newly acquired 2nd hand denon 1803
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: allenars on Mar 02, 2005 at 03:12 PM: mura na yan M52 sa 15K kasi ako I bought my M5 Complete Series (including M52, center, surround and sub)) at 100K. siguro kung M52 nasa 34K dati yon 2 years ago so ngayon mababa na....sige....
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: zap|JDM on Mar 02, 2005 at 03:26 PM: wala na yata mga new na m7 series ngayon. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: taggart on Mar 03, 2005 at 01:05 PM: Quote from: zap|JDM on Mar 02, 2005 at 03:26 PM
wala na yata mga new na m7 series ngayon. :)

that's a shame. meron akong m72 paired with a NAD system at tuwang-tuwa ako sa tunog. even sounds better than when paired to ma b2s.(medyo bright)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Mar 03, 2005 at 01:26 PM: yup, nakarinig na rin ako ng M72i paired w/ Nad receiver....ganda ngang tumunog.....

kaya lang ang mahal ng Nad eh....hanggang Denon lang ang nakayanan nung budget ko, but I am happy naman w/ it....

but mas maganda kapag M7 series tapos kabit sa arcam...., me nag-audition non dati.... akala ko di mission yung tumutunog....:)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: taggart on Mar 03, 2005 at 02:32 PM: sir 5Speed...glad to know di ako nag-iisa. ;D maganda na rin denon...yung NAD ko integrated amp na 2nd hand kaya medyo affordable na hehe. ganun ba kaganda arcam sir? hope na ma-audition ko rin next time.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Mar 04, 2005 at 10:53 AM: mabenta pa ba talaga yung mga m70's ? ::)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: taggart on Mar 05, 2005 at 01:26 AM: dunno dude...sa alam ko wala nang nagbebenta ng m72 pero after hearing it in a friend's system, just had to get one. >:D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Mar 05, 2005 at 10:06 AM: phase out na nga ang m70 series ng missions, but I love the way they sound, I have m72i for fronts and m70i for surround and m7c1 for center.... nung time na bumibili ako eh ang pinagpipilian ko na lang eh B&W 601 series, Mission M70 series at JM Lab Chorus Series (Focal Audio) w/c is way over my budget but I really love the way it sound....so it is a shoot out between B&W and Mission, they sound almost the same using same AVR (denon) and settings....what won me over was its price, B&W is more expensive in here than Missions.....big difference in price, almost the same in sound... B&W has more bass that seems overshadowing the mids (well maybe its not broken in yet at that time)....Mission has a detailed mid with less bass, but I am buying a bookshelf speakers and I dont have to expect a lot of bass from it....besides at that time I am really planning to buy a sub for my HT needs......hehehehe

Now I seldom see a M70 series in stores, it is replaces by M30's and M5 series.....but If you can hear a M780e speaker of mission.......hehehee I want one but for its price, maybe I also have to consider other brand....and I need to change my amp coz it is quite power hungry...... but I do like the way it sings and its looks....hehehehe
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: taggart on Mar 07, 2005 at 11:29 PM: bro how much were the m72is when brand new? lately lang kasi ako nagkahilig sa home audio at di ko na naabutan ang m70 era. how are the new replacements pala? same characteristics as the m70s?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Mar 15, 2005 at 08:49 PM: any tweak here on the Mission M70 series?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: taggart on Mar 15, 2005 at 10:50 PM: Quote from: new_age on Mar 15, 2005 at 08:49 PM
any tweak here on the Mission M70 series?

am also interested in this one kung meron. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Mar 15, 2005 at 11:01 PM: got the complete M7 series..M73i -fronts
M70-Surrounds
M7C1-Center
VELO CHT-8--SUB
Yamaha -420 AVR

3 YEARS OLD AND ITS JUST GETTING BETTER AND BETTER ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Mar 16, 2005 at 10:24 AM: congrats... another happy mission speaker owner....

a friend of mine got a new receiver, it has a torroidal transformer in it and the delivery of power is quite awesome....I am going to ask him if we can audition his receiver to my Mission M7 series setup.... Denon and Onkyo receiver drive this baby quite fine, but I knew it still has something in it that I havent heard off..... That Mission connected to Arcam receiver that I've heard is quite amazing, sadly I am only a spectator at that time and cannot insist what I want to hear, somebody is going to but that
Arcam and probably he also have the Mission as his speakers.... so maybe this is the time that I can hook my speakers to a real high current receiver..... I wish I can borrow his receiver for the weekend....hehehehe
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 16, 2005 at 10:39 AM: nde ko na inabutan yung m7s. but from what i've read, they are well-received :) by both press and hobbyists :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 16, 2005 at 12:00 PM: Anyone wanna sell their M series floorstanders? I wanna upgrade my M72s. They sound great, but I just like the look of floorstanders more..
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 17, 2005 at 05:58 PM: Need your help in deciding guys,

Someone is selling me 3 month old M34 (w/ warranty) for ~~xxk~~ cuz he wants to buy a M34i.

But on the other hand, Sonny Tuazon has a promo, pay 35% now, pay 35 next month, pay 30 the 3rd month. This way I was thinking I could get a M35 (30+k) using this pay lite scheme and NEVER have those "What ifs" & "should've", SARS thoughts...

It will be used for a 12 -18 sq m. condo living room thats attached to a 12 sq m dining room (that forms an L shape).

Baka overkill. My current gear are: M72, M7c1i (will upgrade to M3c2 soon), M7ds, Yammy 650, Velodyne CHT-10.. Use is 85% HT , less than 15% music.

Which would you buy? I need to give my decision to the M34 guy tomorrow AM... ;D

Thanks guys,
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Mar 17, 2005 at 06:33 PM: Go for it... sell me your M72s ? ::) ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Mar 17, 2005 at 08:19 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Mar 17, 2005 at 06:33 PM
Go for it... sell me your M72s ? ::) ;D

Good suggestion jackryan ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:01 AM: Quote from: jackryan on Mar 17, 2005 at 06:33 PM
Go for it... sell me your M72s ? ::) ;D

Hehe, Go for which? ???

I plan to use the M72 for surrounds for the meantime, the M7ds for back surrounds.. ;D

Si Jackryan talaga, ang lakas ng purchasing power, daming datung pambili dito sa forum. ;D

Anyway, I consulted the missus last night and she said, "Knowing you, get the M35, para ma-content ka na....". Syempre sangkatutak na lambing ako sa kanya pag tapos... Haay I love my supportive wifey. Kala ko latigo abot ko :D

So for now M35 muna ako...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:09 AM: Quote from: jackryan on Mar 17, 2005 at 06:33 PM
Go for it... sell me your M72s ? ::) ;D

Alam ko na! I will sell you my M72 but you have to sell me the M73i that you got from the buy & sell section (naunahan mo ako doon ;D )

That way I dont have to spend so much on my floorstanders! :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:27 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Mar 18, 2005 at 10:09 AM
Alam ko na! I will sell you my M72 but you have to sell me the M73i that you got from the buy & sell section (naunahan mo ako doon ;D )

That way I dont have to spend so much on my floorstanders! :D

Hahaha... I wish I can but wanted your M72 to help me on my 7.1 set-up hahaha... Anyway, just in case you change your mind just drop me a pm.

Cheers !!!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Mar 18, 2005 at 03:46 PM: is there a big difference in sound ba sa M3 series compared sa M7 series??

kasi yung M7 series has a good ratings in a lot of audio/video magazines and user satisfaction... I for one chose this over comparabale model of B&W of the same era.... mas gusto kong tumunog yung missions..... but I havent seen any reviews yet for the M3 series.....

Pero andami dito nyan...meron pa ngang maliit eh...hehehee dyunyor m33...cute sya pero di ko pa naririnig tumunog.... ayaw kong pakinggan at baka mangati na naman yung kukote ko....hehehehe
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 21, 2005 at 02:42 PM: I went to Sonny T. on Friday and he advised against the M35. It was too much for my room daw. So I bought the 2nd hand M34 na lang cuz konti lang difference from a new M33..

Anyway, I put the settings to LFE out...both, front speakers...large, crossover ...60hz and the sound was just awesome. Man! the M34 rocks! Yanig hanggang 2nd floor namin. Nasa 9 o clock pa lang yung volume ng Velodyne nun!

I could truly say I am now happy and content with my HT system, well almost... (upgrade na lang ng wires) ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 21, 2005 at 02:45 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Mar 21, 2005 at 02:42 PM
I went to Sonny T. on Friday and he advised against the M35. It was too big for my room daw. So I bought the 2nd hand M34 na lang cuz konti lang difference from a new M33..

Anyway, I put the settings to LFE out...both, front speakers...large, crossover ...60hz and it was awesome. Man! the M34 rocks! Yanig hanggang 2nd floor namin. Nasa 9 o clock pa lang yung volume ng Velodyne nun!

I could truly say I am now happy and content with my HT system, well almost... (upgrade na lang ng wires) ;D

mission accomplished ka na ah :) congrats :) hope you stay happy and content with your HT system after the wire upgrades >:D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 21, 2005 at 03:10 PM: Quote from: bumblebee on Mar 21, 2005 at 02:45 PM
mission accomplished ka na ah :) congrats :) hope you stay happy and content with my HT system after the wire upgrades >:D

Yan ang best words for my previous post na di ko lang alam pano sabihin..... Mission Accomplished!

Yun nga lang nakasimangot na yung yaya >:( ng baby namin..Mission failed sya sa pagpatulog ng bata...

Thanks Bumblebee! I also hope I will stay happy and content after the wires. I am sure my wife is also very much hoping for the same thing... ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Mar 21, 2005 at 04:05 PM: Quote from: 5Speed on Mar 05, 2005 at 10:06 AM
Now I seldom see a M70 series in stores, it is replaces by M30's and M5 series.....but If you can hear a M780e speaker of mission.......hehehee I want one but for its price, maybe I also have to consider other brand....and I need to change my amp coz it is quite power hungry...... but I do like the way it sings and its looks....hehehehe

UY!!! meron ako nyan :) It's doing quite well on my audio set-up. Power hungry talaga sya mga sir. It clips if driven by amps lower than 80 watts. I tried it with several SS amps, including the yamaha rv-440 avr palpak parin. Now it doest clip na. I hooked it up to a 10 watter tube integrated tube amp. Pero I feel mas may ibibigay pa syang sound if powered by...an st70 :)

i bought this speaker mainly for audio use. Pag-HT parang sayang ang qualities nya eh. Surrounds ko wharfdale. Ok lang naman :) center ko M7c2.

mabuhay mga mission accomplished! O0
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Mar 21, 2005 at 04:58 PM: ser tryaudio....galeng naman....hehehe

tama kayo ser....kung ako ang me ganyan eh sa audio setup ko lang gagamitin.....nakakahinayang gamitin sa HT....hehehe... I've heard it again yesterday, somebody is auditioning it using a Nad T-753 and a Nad cdp.....ganda talaga nyang tumunog...parang hindi bookshelf speaker, power hungry nga sya, yung shop manager eh ang tanong kaagad dun sa tao eh, whats your amplifier? hehehe, eh yamaha daw, di ko narinig yung model, umiling yung shop manager tapos kumuha ng Yamaha receiver at ikinabit, parang ang nipis ng tunog na hindi mo mawari, pati yung nag-aaudition eh natawa na lang, tapos kinabit nya dun sa Nad, ayun naliwanagan kaming lahat dun sa sound.......hehehehe I wish I had one.....well maghihintay na lang siguro ako na me magbenta dito ng slightly use na M780e....hehehehe

ser, kelan ka kaya mag-aapgrade? tapos sulitan ko na lang yan.... ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Mar 22, 2005 at 09:08 PM: i wonder why an M34 clips with a lower wattage amp? the m34 is a 92dB speaker and very easy to drive even if matched with a single ended amp. Is your M34 fully broken-in? My experience with Missions for several years and several models, it takes so much time/hours breaking in for it to sing and rock. Just curious.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 23, 2005 at 07:33 AM: nde ba amp ang nagki-clip and not the speakers? ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Vhongbiker on Mar 23, 2005 at 07:59 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Mar 21, 2005 at 03:10 PM
Yan ang best words for my previous post na di ko lang alam pano sabihin..... Mission Accomplished!

Yun nga lang nakasimangot na yung yaya >:( ng baby namin..Mission failed sya sa pagpatulog ng bata...

Thanks Bumblebee! I also hope I will stay happy and content after the wires. I am sure my wife is also very much hoping for the same thing... ;D

MAtZTER, congrats bro, nagawa mo na gusto mong gawin ;)
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED KANA TALAGA. :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 23, 2005 at 10:14 AM: Quote from: new_age on Mar 22, 2005 at 09:08 PM
i wonder why an M34 clips with a lower wattage amp? the m34 is a 92dB speaker and very easy to drive even if matched with a single ended amp. Is your M34 fully broken-in? My experience with Missions for several years and several models, it takes so much time/hours breaking in for it to sing and rock. Just curious.

The unit I bought was already broken in, it was bought in December 2004 (3 months used) and the previous owner was using a 25 watt amp only. He didnt mention about any clipping but he said the reason he was selling it was because he wanted to buy an M34i (when it arrives at the end of the month) which had a sensitivity of 93db. I dont know much about audio but I was wondering how 1 db would be such a big deal. He said DCM was going to give him a good discount so he went on to sell it.

I dont notice any clipping at all but I am not into audio, so I use a yamaha 650 at 95wpc and the manual says it uses 130w for the front speakers. I think the amplification is enough...

One thing I noticed about the M34's audio use was when the guy played one of his LP's with lots of bass, the woofers were hyper. They were vibrating a lot, but when I got home and played bass-y music on my yammy, I couldnt get it to vibrate as much, even at high volumes. Maybe it was a good demo to me on how big a difference it is to use those tube amps...

Quote from: vhongbiker on Mar 23, 2005 at 07:59 AM
MAtZTER, congrats bro, nagawa mo na gusto mong gawin ;)
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED KANA TALAGA. :D

Thanks Vhongbiker! ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Mar 23, 2005 at 05:08 PM: alright. thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Apr 06, 2005 at 03:36 PM: ayus.... ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Apr 09, 2005 at 06:48 AM: Configured my HT set-up as follows:

Fronts - Speakers A - M73i
Fronts - Speakers B - M70i
Center - M7C1
Rears - M73s
Rears2- {still searching for a Mission replacement for Bose cubes}
Subs1 - Velodyne CHT-10R
Subs2 - Kenwood SW-7 tweaked
AVR - Yamaha RXV-750 (configured for 7.1 with fronts A+B enabled)

It's smashing amazing that I now realized I have been missing a lot before I switched the Velodyne CHT-10R as a replacement for a Dynaquest DQ-12 that has been tweaked. ::)

:o
-jackryan 8)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 11, 2005 at 10:08 AM: Quote from: jackryan on Apr 09, 2005 at 06:48 AM
Configured my HT set-up as follows:
Fronts - Speakers A - M73i
Fronts - Speakers B - M70i
Center - M7C1
Rears -Â Â M73s
AVRÂ Â Â -Â Yamaha RXV-750 (configured for 7.1 with fronts A+B enabled)
:o
-jackryan 8)

Whoa, M73 for front and rear :o!

Bro, just wanted to ask:

What impedance mode (6ohms+ or 8 ohms+ on the rear impedance switch) did you set for using A+B on your Yammy 750? Ok ba effect (sound wise)when you use bothÂ A+B? No heat problems?

I am also wondering why you didnt just use the M70 for presence channels, are the presence channels useless or insignificant in your experience?( I havent tried them yet).

TIAÂ ;)!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Apr 11, 2005 at 12:12 PM: honga....

antindi nyan, m73 for front and rear.....

M70 lang ang gamit ko sa rear and I find it quite nice when playing sacd's....mas fuller yung sound comparing to a smaller rear speaker....what more siguro kung M73 yon...

teka eh di puro 'LARGE' halos ang settings nyang mga speakers mo?..... ano ang settings mo sa LFE mo?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: av_phile1 on Apr 11, 2005 at 02:26 PM: It's ideal to have identical full-range speakers for front and back especially for discrete multichannel materials.Â
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Apr 11, 2005 at 08:56 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Apr 11, 2005 at 10:08 AM
Whoa, M73 for front and rear :o!

Bro, just wanted to ask:

What impedance mode (6ohms+ or 8 ohms+ on the rear impedance switch) did you set for using A+B on your Yammy 750? Ok ba effect (sound wise)when you use bothÂ A+B? No heat problems?

I am also wondering why you didnt just use the M70 for presence channels, are the presence channels useless or insignificant in your experience?( I havent tried them yet).

TIAÂ ;)!

No heat problems. Even at high volumes, I am okay. I think I put them at 8 ohms. Yup, I like the A+B results on the Yammie 750. Note that the front "A" is M73i while my rear is "M73s". Fronts "B" is a M70.

I am still searching for another pair of Mission M70 / M71 or even M73s for my 6&7 to make it full Mission 7.1. I didn't opted to use the presence pair as I don't find much value "yet" for it. I might swing the Bose to it if I do find a pair to replace the extra rear pairs.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 16, 2005 at 02:39 PM: Guys, what are these foam plugs for? On what circumstances do I use em? When the speakers are too close to the wall? etc.. Manual doesnt say anything about them.

Has anyone tried sand filling their Mission floorstanders? Is there a difference in sound?

TIA :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 16, 2005 at 11:16 PM: the foam plugs reduce boominess when speakers are placed near a rear wall. ala-sealed type ba.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: zap|JDM on Apr 26, 2005 at 03:19 PM: sup mission boys? bump!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 26, 2005 at 03:51 PM: Wazzap Zap!

I saw your gears from another thread, Very nice setup! :D

Quote from: MAtZTER on Apr 16, 2005 at 02:39 PM
Has anyone tried sand filling their Mission floorstanders? Is there a difference in sound?
TIA :)

Anyone? :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: zap|JDM on Apr 26, 2005 at 07:13 PM: hi sir MAtZTER, thanks. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Apr 27, 2005 at 11:51 AM: yeah...saw that too...very nice setup zap... :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:05 PM: pucha, kating kati nako bumili ng M30i series!!! wla ng m30 series sa sights and sound...may umubos kasi eh!!! inubos ata ni matzter! hehehehe!!!! baka june pako makabili..medyo mabigat kasi...tsk tsk tsk...san kaya makabili ng 2nd hand? zap,matzter, mag si upgrade na kayo ng mas malufet na speakers, benta nyo na sakin yan! tutal, mayaman naman kayo. lolz! joke! :P hahahaha!!!!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:10 PM: Quote from: dheng on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:05 PM
pucha, kating kati nako bumili ng M30i series!!! wla ng m30 series sa sights and sound...may umubos kasi eh!!! inubos ata ni matzter! hehehehe!!!! baka june pako makabili..medyo mabigat kasi...tsk tsk tsk...san kaya makabili ng 2nd hand? zap,matzter, mag si upgrade na kayo ng mas malufet na speakers, benta nyo na sakin yan! tutal, mayaman naman kayo. lolz! joke! :P hahahaha!!!!

bili na kc >:D nde naman kailangang isang set na agad. start k muna sa m31i para nde mabigat. stereo na lang muna :)

go to The Home Theater sa likod ng makati sports club. tordezillas ata yung street. they have missions there. ask mo kung pede deferred payment.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:19 PM: Quote from: bumblebee on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:10 PM
bili na kc >:D nde naman kailangang isang set na agad. start k muna sa m31i para nde mabigat. stereo na lang muna :)

As in pucha, di ako makatulog, para akong addict na nag iisip na mag nakaw para may maibili ng droga. hahaha!!! Anywayz, wla pa naman stock nung m34i, sa may pa daw darating...so sakto, antay ko muna. ayoko na mag credit card! lol! bili muna ako siguro ng center. trip ko ung m3c2...hmmm..mag aaudition ako sa s&s park square...;) suplado mga tao upscale audio.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:24 PM: Quote from: dheng on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:19 PM
...
suplado mga tao upscale audio.

i share the same experience.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:32 PM: Quote from: bumblebee on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:24 PM
i share the same experience.

dapat siguro ung itsura mo mukang matanda na mayamang intsik..ung naka all white (pati shoes) or ung naka white polo,tapos white short tapos naka chinelas...or di ka marunong mag tagalog...ung tipong wla ng magawa sa pera.hehehehe!!! lol.... ma o-OT nanaman tayo...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:43 PM: Quote from: dheng on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:05 PM
pucha, kating kati nako bumili ng M30i series!!! wla ng m30 series sa sights and sound...may umubos kasi eh!!! inubos ata ni matzter! hehehehe!!!! baka june pako makabili..medyo mabigat kasi...tsk tsk tsk...san kaya makabili ng 2nd hand? zap,matzter, mag si upgrade na kayo ng mas malufet na speakers, benta nyo na sakin yan! tutal, mayaman naman kayo. lolz! joke! :P hahahaha!!!!

Hehe, Di na kailangan i-upgrade, malufet na ito enough for me, specially sa budget ko ;). Just buy em a little at a time so that its lighter on the pocket. Unahin mo na yung M3c2. Then the surrounds and then save up for the M34i sa May or June, its worth it. Naku pre, subs pa! Pero ganyan talaga, it took me a while to complete my setup.

Guilty ako sa pag ubos ng M3 series sa S & S for my friend's setup ;). Pero di na rin ako nakaabot sa M30, out-of-stock, so I got a more expensive M30i for my friend.

Try Sonny Tuazon of Home Theater, He might have some stocks.

Quote from: dheng on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:32 PM
dapat siguro ung itsura mo mukang matanda na mayamang intsik..ung naka all white (pati shoes) or ung naka white polo,tapos white short tapos naka chinelas...or di ka marunong mag tagalog...ung tipong wla ng magawa sa pera.hehehehe!!! lol.... ma o-OT nanaman tayo...

Mukhang Hong Kong TRIAD or Mafia ang dating nyan ah....
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Apr 27, 2005 at 02:19 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:43 PM
Hehe, Di na kailangan i-upgrade, malufet na ito enough for me, specially sa budget ko ;). Just buy em a little at a time so that its lighter on the pocket. Unahin mo na yung M3c2. Then the surrounds and then save up for the M34i sa May or June, its worth it. Naku pre, subs pa! Pero ganyan talaga, it took me a while to complete my setup.

may subs nako...kaya lang sw150 lang...pero satisfied naman...siguro pag nag upgrad kukuha na rin ako ng velodyne. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: zap|JDM on Apr 27, 2005 at 02:23 PM: if i were you, unahin ko na ung main speakers, than the center. imho. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Apr 27, 2005 at 02:29 PM: Quote from: zap|JDM on Apr 27, 2005 at 02:23 PM
if i were you, unahin ko na ung main speakers, than the center. imho. ;)

Actually ang balak ko sabay na ung front and center...kasi sa center lumalabas ung boses pag nanonood ng dvd eh. =) thanks for your advice guys!!!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bumblebee on Apr 27, 2005 at 02:33 PM: i agree w/ zap. you can just phantom the center for the time being. and you get that mission sound you've been longing for ;D in dialogs and in stereo.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 27, 2005 at 02:37 PM: Try to audition M33, maganda din yun. Kung di lang ako nakahanap ng 2nd hand na M34, M33 sana kukunin ko. Maybe the AV stores have em now, this was always out of stock before cuz its a hot seller.

(http://www.mission.co.uk/home/homepic4.jpg)

Gho , Dheng Gho ! ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Apr 27, 2005 at 02:44 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Apr 27, 2005 at 02:37 PM
Try to audition M33, maganda din yun. Kung di lang ako nakahanap ng 2nd hand na M34, M33 sana kukunin ko. Maybe the AV stores have em now, this is always out of stock before cuz its a hot seller.

(http://www.mission.co.uk/home/homepic4.jpg)

Gho , Dheng Gho ! ;D

Tama ba namang mag post pa ng mga pictures? >:( lalo lang akong nag lalaway!!! ^-^ maawa ka naman sakin matzter, di na ako makatulog sa gabi! :P
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 27, 2005 at 03:18 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:43 PM
Just buy em a little at a time so that its lighter on the pocket. Unahin mo na yung M3c2. Then the surrounds and then save up for the M34i sa May or June, its worth it.

Let me rephrase that: Unahin mo na yung M3c2 and the surrounds and then save up for the M34i (or M33) sa May or June. Use the surrounds (if M30 or M31) for the fronts for the meantime. Hehe, that was what I meant.. ;)

Quote from: dheng on Apr 27, 2005 at 02:44 PM
Tama ba namang mag post pa ng mga pictures? >:( lalo lang akong nag lalaway!!! ^-^ maawa ka naman sakin matzter, di na ako makatulog sa gabi! :P

Oks lang yan, I drooled over this picture for months myself. Di rin nakatulog minsan :). But sobrang satisfying pag sa yo na. Parang babae.(yung legit ha!)....pinaghirapan ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kid on Apr 27, 2005 at 04:08 PM: Hala kayo! di na makatulog si dheng sa mga pinopost nyo ;D :P

Tama si matzter pre.... you can use the surround as fronts tutal may sub ka naman who will handle the LF... pag dating ng floorstander mo.... naku mas matutuwa ka depth sound nya.... pero mas madetalye ang bookshelf.... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Jun 09, 2005 at 08:35 AM: nka kuha na rin ako ng m3c2 sa wakas...wla bang mag uupgrade jan? lolz...kahit m31 or m32 ok na...ayoko ng m30 "i" series...ung i daw kasi stands for ixpensive...hehehehe!!! guhit lang daw sa cabinet ang pinagkaiba...
ang ganda pala talaga ng tunog..plano ko talaga to get diamond 9 series, kaya lang ang laki ng difference nung inaudition namin ung dalawa....matzter, binebenta mo paba ung bookshelf na mission mo? m7 ba un? ayon...thanks ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jun 09, 2005 at 10:01 AM: Anyone seen an M7C2 (silver vanadium) in the shops there?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 09, 2005 at 10:23 AM: Quote from: deo on Jun 09, 2005 at 08:35 AM
nka kuha na rin ako ng m3c2 sa wakas...wla bang mag uupgrade jan? lolz...kahit m31 or m32 ok na...ayoko ng m30 "i" series...ung i daw kasi stands for ixpensive...hehehehe!!! guhit lang daw sa cabinet ang pinagkaiba...
ang ganda pala talaga ng tunog..plano ko talaga to get diamond 9 series, kaya lang ang laki ng difference nung inaudition namin ung dalawa....matzter, binebenta mo paba ung bookshelf na mission mo? m7 ba un? ayon...thanks ;)

Dheeeeng! Congrats! buti Mission kinuha mo! di ka magsisisi :D! Maganda talaga ang tunog, di pa break in yan. If you combine it with the right speaker cables & interconnects, gaganda pa tunog nyan!

I am going to use my M72 for audio (tubes) in the future. Nakatabi lang so far for ilang months na. I just met New Age and he is teaching me some tube basics but I will get into tubes after my house renovation, dami na kasi gastos. ;D

Just wait at the marketplace, there will be people selling their Mission stuff.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Jun 09, 2005 at 10:37 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Jun 09, 2005 at 10:23 AM
Dheeeeng! Congrats! buti Mission kinuha mo! di ka magsisisi :D! Maganda talaga ang tunog, di pa break in yan. If you combine it with the right speaker cables & interconnects, gaganda pa tunog nyan!

I am going to use my M72 for audio (tubes) in the future. Nakatabi lang so far for ilang months na. I just met New Age and he is teaching me some tube basics but I will get into tubes after my house renovation, dami na kasi gastos. ;D

Just wait at the marketplace, there will be people selling their Mission stuff.

naku, ganun ba...sayang...pang audio din ba M72? benta mo nlng skin..hihihihi >:D lagi kaba naka online sa marketplace? balitaan mko pag may nagbebenta ng mission,k? thanks ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Jun 13, 2005 at 07:58 PM: congrats on your missions.....

yung front speakers ko eh M72i din.....pwedeng pwede sa music yan ser..... yung sa kin naka-bi-wire na........ get a good quality cables...napansin ko kasi naiiba nga ang tunog depende sa cable na gamit.... :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 14, 2005 at 11:09 AM: Quote from: 5Speed on Jun 13, 2005 at 07:58 PM
yung front speakers ko eh M72i din.....pwedeng pwede sa music yan ser..... yung sa kin naka-bi-wire na........ get a good quality cables...napansin ko kasi naiiba nga ang tunog depende sa cable na gamit.... :)

I agree. I am using Ixos 6006 now bi-wired with my old Audio pro 16awg and there was a huge improvement when I first connected this combo. The detail was astounding with my Mission M34 & Ixos xhd304 interconnect.

I also recently changed the audio pro with some of my spare Genesis 12awg (the rest were used for my surrounds in our ongoing condo renovation) and there was also a change in the sound quality.

A guy from the wiredstate forum used a M74 biwired with Ixos 6006 for the LF and Ecosse 2.3 for the HF. I plan to do this someday... when budget allows, hehe dami na gastos recently.

I also recently met bro New Age and he really recommends the Ecosse 2.3 for audio (with Mission speakers).
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: FishTale on Jun 19, 2005 at 09:03 PM: Newbie po!! Kaya po ba idrive ng RXV-450 yung M70/70i series?? 16thou lang po budget ko for an AVR. Ano po ba magandang combo for the RXV450-mission speakers??
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Jun 20, 2005 at 08:01 AM: haayy..mission accomplished nako! ...kinda...hahaha!! i ended up getting a pair of M32 sa S&S shang,..bait ng bosing dun...ung chinese,..akalain mo ba namang pumayag i deliver ung speakers ko kahit dipa fully paid...1/3 kasi cash, then 2/3 card,..kaya lang nahihrapan akong i figure out kung sakin sya nakatingin pag naguusap kami..lolz. Stand na lang...saka medyo fancy na speaker cables for my fronts...and a couple of banana plugs, solve na.... BTW, meron bang speaker stand < 2.5k na makapal ung post/stem? katulad nung "STANDARD" na stand na makikita mo sa mission website. kasi ung perfect view, dalawang manipis na poste lang....hmmm..

Quote from: FishTale on Jun 19, 2005 at 09:03 PM
Newbie po!! Kaya po ba idrive ng RXV-450 yung M70/70i series?? 16thou lang po budget ko for an AVR. Ano po ba magandang combo for the RXV450-mission speakers??

16k? dagdag ka na lang konti, mag rxv650 ka na! ;) ok din ung DENON 1705...18K ata un sa spectra. pero kaya naman ng rxv450 ung m70/i, kasi bookshelf lang sya...baka pag ung mga floor standers na, mahirapan. IMHO. O0
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 20, 2005 at 12:36 PM: Quote from: deo on Jun 20, 2005 at 08:01 AM
haayy..mission accomplished nako! ...kinda...hahaha!! i ended up getting a pair of M32 sa S&S shang,..bait ng bosing dun...ung chinese,..akalain mo ba namang pumayag i deliver ung speakers ko kahit dipa fully paid...1/3 kasi cash, then 2/3 card,..kaya lang nahihrapan akong i figure out kung sakin sya nakatingin pag naguusap kami..lolz. Stand na lang...saka medyo fancy na speaker cables for my fronts...and a couple of banana plugs, solve na.... BTW, meron bang speaker stand < 2.5k na makapal ung post/stem? katulad nung "STANDARD" na stand na makikita mo sa mission website. kasi ung perfect view, dalawang manipis na poste lang....hmmm..

Bait talaga yung Boss doon. I have seen him for many years serving in Mary the Queen Church in Greenhills before I learned that he owns S&S.

Perfect View has a speaker stand w/ 3 posts, vission yata ang brand. But its at over P4500.

If you can wait, I am planning to bring in some speaker stands in the near future, I am just waiting for the samples to arrive for quality approval.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Jun 20, 2005 at 01:26 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Jun 20, 2005 at 12:36 PM

Bait talaga yung Boss doon. I have seen him for many years serving in Mary the Queen Church in Greenhills before I learned that he owns S&S.

Perfect View has a speaker stand w/ 3 posts, vission yata ang brand. But its at over P4500.

If you can wait, I am planning to bring in some speaker stands in the near future, I am just waiting for the samples to arrive for quality approval.

cge, hopefully soon! pag may picture ka send mo sakin ah? [email protected] gusto ko kasi ung mataba ung post..medyo malaki kasi ung m32. pucha, kung ganun pala kalaki ung driver ng m32, ano pa kaya ung tulad sayo? x2 ung m34...ang laki pala.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Jun 23, 2005 at 09:31 AM: mga gano katagal ang break in ng m30 series? and what can i expect pag nag break in na sya or break out ba dapat? lolz!!! ;) what about sa subz? hmm... ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Jairus on Jun 24, 2005 at 03:02 PM: deo,

how much did you get your m32? Any idea how much na m33? Thanks!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 24, 2005 at 08:16 PM: Quote from: deo on Jun 23, 2005 at 09:31 AM
mga gano katagal ang break in ng m30 series? and what can i expect pag nag break in na sya or break out ba dapat? lolz!!! ;) what about sa subz? hmm... ???

Deo,

bigyan mo lang ng 150 to 200 hours at yun na sound if can get hold of burn in cd yun puro pink noise mas maganda.. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Jun 27, 2005 at 09:17 AM: Quote from: Jairus on Jun 24, 2005 at 03:02 PM
deo,

how much did you get your m32? Any idea how much na m33? Thanks!

dko alam how much ung ung m33 eh...m32 is 13k cash...discounted na un...ang m34 naman is 23k. kung bibili ka, pumunta ka na sa sights and sound...paubos na m30 series, puro m30i na! eh, sabi nila guhit lang daw sa speaker cabinet ang pinag kaiba nun...mapapansin mo, may 2 guhit ung mga "i series" sa ilalim ng driver. Kung ako sayo, mag M51 ka na lang...may binebenta sila sa WATT HI-FI sa makati cinema square...16k ang last price nila dun...pre-owned un, ang brand new kasi is 25k++, wala na talga rin kasi sa budget ko, kaya di kinaya ng powers ko. pero sulit un ;)

Thanks hans for the comment....dapat talaga gamitin ng gamitin para ma break in na...pero ngayon pa lang ayos na tunog, pag nag mmusic ako, naka pure direct lang, tpos wlang subz, the best pa rin ;) speaker stand na lang talaga saka wires... O0
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 06, 2005 at 03:44 PM: Deo,

I saw a brand new Mission M34 being sold at Tech Central, Makati Cinema Square last night. P22.5k
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 27, 2005 at 08:32 AM: Mission sold to IAG (http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/shownews.php?id=8163)

Sana same price na rin sa Wharfedales >:D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: marckd1 on Jul 27, 2005 at 09:37 AM: Di ba ang IAG ang manufacturer ng wharfdale? Sana nga ibaba na lang din nila ang price ng Mission same as wharfs but not the quality.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Jul 27, 2005 at 03:16 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Jul 06, 2005 at 03:44 PM
Deo,

I saw a brand new Mission M34 being sold at Tech Central, Makati Cinema Square last night. P22.5k

san banda ung tech central? may bagong bukas dun...sa ground level..ung TOYS for the AUDIOBOYZ...Ayos ung manager dun..sobrang accommodating. Wla nga akong balak bumili ng cd, pero napabili ako.hehehehe!!! ayos ang mga products nila dun!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 27, 2005 at 03:46 PM: Quote from: deo on Jul 27, 2005 at 03:16 PM
san banda ung tech central? may bagong bukas dun...sa ground level..ung TOYS for the AUDIOBOYZ...Ayos ung manager dun..sobrang accommodating. Wla nga akong balak bumili ng cd, pero napabili ako.hehehehe!!! ayos ang mga products nila dun!

Tech Central is on the 2nd floor. Its a shop full of computers with a few AV stuff displayed in front.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 27, 2005 at 04:06 PM: Quote from: marckd1 on Jul 27, 2005 at 09:37 AM
Di ba ang IAG ang manufacturer ng wharfdale? Sana nga ibaba na lang din nila ang price ng Mission same as wharfs but not the quality.

Yup, IAG owns Wharfedale (and Quad. Kelan kaya darating ito dito?). Naku, baka mag-kevlar na rin Missions :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: garee on Jul 28, 2005 at 03:43 PM: OT.
@bumblebee: ngayon ko lang napansin avatar mo, nice hehehe

back to topic.

sana nga bumaba na ang price ng mission :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 08, 2005 at 02:28 PM: Quote from: bumblebee on Jul 27, 2005 at 08:32 AM
Mission sold to IAG (http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/shownews.php?id=8163)

Whats the trend here? Does this mean that Missions will appreciate or depreciate?

I still love my Missions pa naman. I was scouting for other tower speakers (hard to find Missions lately) recently cuz I am setting up a HT for my sister. I was able to audition Dali and Monitor. I didnt like the sound of the entry level Dali very much, but the unit wasnt broken in pa raw. I liked the Monitor Audio B4, very good bass and great speakers...but ayaw ko yung japorms nya :-\.

Thats why I like the Missions, balance of good sound and good looks! 8)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 22, 2005 at 02:07 PM: I was recently told by an audiophile about how good the M72 is, so I brought out my shelved M72 from our storage room last weekend to compare it side by side with the M34 (with HKardon 630).

And my oh my! Now I have respect for this little bookshelf! The details were outstanding and really loved the sound of it. It just wasnt there when it was connected to my Yamaha several months ago. Even the bass was astoundingly good for a bookshelf speaker when I set it to 2 channel listening (at large setting with no subs).

Kaya pala this audiophile told me never to sell this M72. Curious tuloy ako kung how the M74 sounds ;D.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: random on Aug 23, 2005 at 12:46 PM: mga sir, magkano na ba ngayon ang M33 at M34?
thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 23, 2005 at 12:58 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Aug 22, 2005 at 02:07 PM
I was recently told by an audiophile about how good the M72 is, so I brought out my shelved M72 from our storage room last weekend to compare it side by side with the M34 (with HKardon 630).

And my oh my! Now I have respect for this little bookshelf! The details were outstanding and really loved the sound of it. It just wasnt there when it was connected to my Yamaha several months ago. Even the bass was astoundingly good for a bookshelf speaker when I set it to 2 channel listening (at large setting with no subs).

Kaya pala this audiophile told me never to sell this M72. Curious tuloy ako kung how the M74 sounds ;D.

I AGREE!!!!! O0

I also own an M72i...and I agree, maganda nga syang tumunog....provided you have a good wires for it... na-compare ko na to sa B&W 300 series na bookshelf and parang mas gusto ko ang tunog ng M72i....kaya malamang eh for keeps ko na tong M72i, iba na kasi ang owner ng mission company kaya malamang eh maiba na ang tunog ng speakers nila...hehehe

but previously, nung bago pa yung speakers ko, medyo di ako satisfied sa tunog nya, muntik ko na tuloy palitan but me nag-advice sa akin na maganda raw yung speaker ko so I keep it for a while...then nung ma-break-in na sya at makabili ako ng magandang wires, ayun ganda na ng tunog...dami ko na ring ginawa don para ma-test lang kung maiiba nga ang tunog and soundstage...andyan na manghiram ako ng magandang cables for bi-wiring purpose....naiiba nga ng konti yung tunog nya, tapos positioning sa bahay, malapit sa wall or malayo, lagyan ng foam yung port sa likod or wala (kasama sa package yung foam).....hehehe kaya lang matrabaho....pero me nababago nga pala talaga.....hehehe yan ang nagagawa ng madalas tumambay dito...napapa-eksperiment ng wala sa oras.....:)

now naka-bi-amped yung M72i ko...medyo mas brighter syang tumunog....sarap makinig ng mga insturmental at jazz and blues na music...:):)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 23, 2005 at 02:22 PM: What wires do you use bro? I am still looking for a better cable for the HF that could bring out more details on the M34 and the M72.

The best combination w/c I appreciated for my M34 was Ixos 11awg 6006 (LF) biwired with Audio pro 16awg (HF). The music produced by this combo lulls me to sleep! and I seldom fall asleep on anything (long trips, puyat, music, etc) !

When I changed the HF to Genesis 12awg, the sound was different and I preferred the Audio Pro. Any suggestions? TIA
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Oloap on Aug 23, 2005 at 04:01 PM: Hi to all mission users. Just want your opinion(s)... im currently looking for new speakers (mission m34i, bw602s3, MA B4, AE Evo 3). Please tell me, why would I choose Mission over the others mentioned given all things equal?

The more I audition, the more confused i become.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 23, 2005 at 04:47 PM: M34i has some awards, click here. (http://www.mission.co.uk/reviews/loudspeakers_reviews_m34i.htm). The 2 month old M34 I bought was from an audiophile who was waiting for the M34i. I thought, it must be that good for him to really wait for the M34i and sell his 2 month old M34 to me at a loss..
(http://www.mission.co.uk/product/m3iseries/loudspeaker_m34i_d.jpg)

M34 vs MA b4:
Like I said in this thread, the MA b4 has better bass. IMO the M34 has more detail. But I would choose the M34 bec of it looks great. I know its "mababaw", but the looks is a factor for me. Till now, the M34 still takes my breath away when I see it w/ the clothes, ay este grills off :). I had a chance to upgrade to a MA S-6 but in the end, me & my wife decided to retain the Mission & I just set up the S-6 for my sister..in part for the same reason...da looks ;D

M34 vs B&W 602 S3 :

I would prefer floorstanders to bookshelf anytime. The cost of the stands would sometimes make it more practical to buy the floorstander instead. The guy who sold me the MA S-6 also sold his B&W recently because it was "matigas" for audio. Good for HT though. And good pogi points too ;D.

M34 vs AE :
Havent auditioned the AE, so no comment. Teka, meron...I still like the M34 form factor ;D

All in all, its not just the looks, it sounds GREAT too I also absolutely love the sound of the M34 for my listening taste, I am very very happy with it, specially with my new HK receiver, I have never heard it sing like this. I havent found any speaker within this price range that sould make me want to upgrade to it. And for the price I got it, I wouldnt complain.

The improved (and more expensive) M34i will probably sound better. But I was told that the M34i shipment still has not arrived, I thought it was due last April pa.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 23, 2005 at 05:19 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Aug 23, 2005 at 02:22 PM
What wires do you use bro? I am still looking for a better cable for the HF that could bring out more details on the M34 and the M72.

The best combination w/c I appreciated for my M34 was Ixos 11awg 6006 (LF) biwired with Audio pro 16awg (HF). The music produced by this combo lulls me to sleep! and I seldom fall asleep on anything (long trips, puyat, music, etc) !

When I changed the HF to Genesis 12awg, the sound was different and I preferred the Audio Pro. Any suggestions? TIA

Right now, I am using Tara Labs cable..... I forgot the brand of the banana plugs though...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Oloap on Aug 27, 2005 at 12:57 PM: Sir Matzter,

Thanks for the input. Im also planning to power the speakers with a Harman Kardon 630. This is a simpler choice.

Just curious, what should be the difference between the m34 and m34i that your audiophile friend is willing to sell his m34 at a loss?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Aug 27, 2005 at 09:28 PM: i have both the M74 and m72 used in different systems. (please check the photo of the set-up in the HT Photo Gallery thread)

the M72 is used in HT with the M7C2, M7DS and M7C1i for a 6.1 system. Wired singly with Ixos 6006 with Ixos 106 optical interconnect.

the M74 is used in tube audio system, biwired with Ecosse CS2.3 matched with Ecosse The BestBoy interconnect.

My opinion for each: the M74 has rounded bass and detailed mid and hi when used with Duntonic Du-2i (with 4 stock power tubes-Electro Harmonix, 1 pair sylvania 12au7 long plate and 1 pc telefunken 12ax7 long palte). What i like about the M74 is its high sensitivity of 91, kayang kayang iwasiwas ng 12-watter PP tube amp, well, the DU-2i is well-known for its unbelievable power, parang hindi 12 watts. i listen only at 9 0'clock volume, depending on the quality and gain of the recording of the cd software. I like the bass of the M74, akala mo laging naka-sub. Most of my visitors thought open ang sub when we play some music.

the M72 when connected to the DU-2i (biwired with Ecosse) exhibited warmer tone than the M74 but lacks the deep bass that i loved with the M74. BUT, the bass of the M72 is very competitive if compared with other speakers in its class. Generally, if you will have it in a blind test, you'll thought it's a big speaker. Big sound in a small box. Though i need to increase the volume a bit as the M72 is only 89dB.

in HT application, the M72 also excel, wide sounding and dynamic wired singly with Ixos 6006. Though I find it smoother when biwired with Ixos 6006 on the LF and Ecosse CS2.3 on HF, together with the M7C2, but lose some bass a bit (but you have the sub to supplement or cover the LF needs).

So, take your pick. You'll never go wrong in either model you choose. It depends on how you will put them in use with the right cables and wires.

M72 is hard to come by nowadays in the 2nd hand market because it is really an all-rounder speaker, in HT or Tube, and is for keeps.

Happy hunting!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Aug 28, 2005 at 08:47 AM: Had a chance to own m73 this speaker have good detail and tight bass i paired it with HK and NAD AVR's before. i notice that its tweeter's little bit sharp but match it with proper wire like Eccose 2.3 to tame and role out some unwanted sharpness and you'll enjoy every minute of it.

NAD and mission IMHO is very good match. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 29, 2005 at 10:06 AM: Quote from: Oloap on Aug 27, 2005 at 12:57 PM
Just curious, what should be the difference between the m34 and m34i that your audiophile friend is willing to sell his m34 at a loss?

M34 is 91 db sensitivity, M34i is 92 db sensitivity. The 1 db difference apparently mattered to him a lot.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Aug 29, 2005 at 07:29 PM: the 1 dB difference also counts to me specially in low powered tube application. though mission speakers are easy to drive (at least for the M70 series i tried, don't know with the M30s), i remember 3 nights ago, a 12-watter PP tube amp drove the M71 with 88dB with ease, at 10 o'clock volume di na kami magkarinigan.

keep on exploring!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: acg on Sep 03, 2005 at 07:53 AM: what do you guys think of Mission M53? for hometheater? music? nice thing is its magnetically shielded but only 2.5 way and its rear ported. would there be ay problems if one were to install it in a "hide in a cabinet" setup with the empty space is filled with fiberfill or eggcrate foam? will it affect sound quality?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 05, 2005 at 10:10 AM: Wow, "hide in a cabinet"?!?!

Golly, I have always wanted the M53 for its looks. Been drooling for it since I started HT. Unfortunately, the price is not within my budget so I settled for the M3 series. The M5 series at almost the same price with the Volare, if I am correct.

I cant believe that you will just hide it behind a cabinet. Sayaaang ;D

Try the Volare 63 (http://www.mission.co.uk/product/volare/loudspeaker_v63-spec.htm), its a multi awarded speaker within the same price range.

(http://www.mission.co.uk/product/volare/loudspeaker_v63_award)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 05, 2005 at 01:44 PM: Quote from: acg on Sep 03, 2005 at 07:53 AM
what do you guys think of Mission M53? for hometheater? music? nice thing is its magnetically shielded but only 2.5 way and its rear ported. would there be ay problems if one were to install it in a "hide in a cabinet" setup with the empty space is filled with fiberfill or eggcrate foam? will it affect sound quality?

For sure it will change the sound quality. The new enclosure will act as a baffle. Better or worse, let your ears decide.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: acg on Sep 05, 2005 at 05:08 PM: hi matzter, you're right about M53's looks. they are beautifully designed enclosures. I really liked the rosewood finish. I agree with you its sayang to hide these beauties. I decided not to get them because of the rear porting. The room is quite small and i would like to place the fronts close to the wall.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 06, 2005 at 05:59 AM: Matzter,

Nice meeting you bro... Your M34 was a surprised performer. :) :) :) :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1040592.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/session1/P1040591.jpg)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kid on Sep 06, 2005 at 09:26 AM: mat,

nice meeting you too pare.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Oloap on Sep 06, 2005 at 09:30 AM: Hey Matt,

So how did you find the shootout? Would you still go for M34 against the Dali? I personally crossed out Wharf from my list. Workmanship and style, handsdown, i'll go for mission. Review naman dyan.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 07, 2005 at 03:29 PM: Quote from: Oloap on Sep 06, 2005 at 09:30 AM
So how did you find the shootout? Would you still go for M34 against the Dali? I personally crossed out Wharf from my list. Workmanship and style, handsdown, i'll go for mission. Review naman dyan.

The shootout was great, lots of friendly pdvd members made us feel at home right away. Nice meeting you PK! :)

The speakers were all great, just like Hans said in another post, its like ice cream in different flavors, masarap lahat. Each one has its strengths and weaknesses. If you have one of those at home, you wont complain about their properties, unless you compare em side by side with other speakers like in the shootout.

Anyway for the comparison, I didnt like the Wharfe cuz of its huge size, its got no place in my HT area. The price is tempting, but I heard some harshness when playing some of the tracks. And minsan, ngongo compared to the details of the other 2.

Dali: looks absolutely pogi, almost looks like real wood if you dont look close enough. It was great for music and had tight bass. But, di bi-wirable...So I would still go for the Missions than the Dali. And of course, I also prefer the bipolar surrounds very much, which the Dali doesnt have.

Mission: a participant described the Mission as "surprisingly, an all around performer". I still preferred the sound of the Mission, since I was used to it (call me biased ;D). But the bass was a bit boomy with the initial wire used at first, but the boominess was tamed with master Hans' Ixos 303 cable.

Honestly, aside from meeting fellow members, listening to the speakers, etc. One of my goals there was also to reaffirm to myself that I made a good decision in buying the Missions (and wont need to upgrade anymore, kung baga, for keeps na yung floorstanders ko). And in the end, it turns out.. I did make a good decision with the Missions... ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: H a n $ on Sep 07, 2005 at 05:48 PM: matzter,

Its Ixos 606 Pakora... see you next session. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: cybermms on Sep 10, 2005 at 08:41 PM: Try the Mission 78's, especially the SE series. They sound even better. The few remaining stocks are now on sale at less 30%.

Check it out at

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=41677.0

cyber
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Happy Dads Vinyl Shop on Sep 14, 2005 at 02:14 PM: I have an oldschool M780's at home...still loving it and can even compare it to speakers at thrice it's price. :)
female vocals are always a winner with these speakers. These speakers howeverdont like to go too loud. :)

medyo power hungry din since it doesnt mate much even with the powerful NADC350.

kudos to missioin owners! :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 15, 2005 at 04:27 PM: I also recently acquired a pair of UK made Mission 731i for my 6th & 7th channel, its front ported and small, perfect for back surrounds. I connected them to my spare bose passive sub and I sometimes set my HK to use the 731i as zone 2 speakers when I want to listen to bookshelf speakers (mas detailed kasi). It was surprisingly sibilant and was good for vocals, but it lacked bass, but its understandable for its size.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: degro01 on Sep 17, 2005 at 10:39 AM: Hi Mission Lovers!

I have M73i and M7c2 for my main and center speakers. However, I still have a pair of Yamaha NS200 floor standing speakers from my old setup that I am using as surround speakers.

Now I seam to be having this urge of buying a pair of M74i to replace my main speakers then will move my M73i from main to surround. I would then eliminate the old yamaha speakers and will have all-mission setup.

Ang ugat nitong kalokohan kong ito ay dahil nasira ang subwoofer ko. And since I listen to music more often than watching DVD's, parang I prefer to buy a new pair of main speakers with better bass than to buy a new sub.

Tama kaya itong iniisip ko? ;D

Hindi pa ba phased out ang M74? Btw, I'm using Marantz 6300 bought from Sonny Tuazon years ago - pati ang speakers ko.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 17, 2005 at 12:32 PM: A good sub well integrated with a pair of bookshelf speakers can beat the hell out of any full-range floorstander in stereo music playback. Except perhaps from some of the less compromised floorstanders that unfortunately cost a lot. But why bother when you can achieve the best results with a sub that is seamlessly integrated with bookshelf speakers? You just have to work on getting the semaless integration. ;D

It is a fact that great bass and great stereo imaging are on opposite sides when it comes to speaker placement. Floorstanders will compromise. Excellent stereo imaging can only be achieved as you go farther from room boundaries. OTH great bass can only be achieved as you go closer to room boundaries. So go figure.

In addition, the best sounding stereo systems are often heard from properly bi-amped set-ups. Using a good powered sub for bass and good bookshelf speakers for the rest is an example of bi-amping. It's not easy nor simple. But properly done, it is the most cost-effective set-up in terms of getting the best possible stereo imaging in your listening position and the best bass. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 17, 2005 at 03:44 PM: Quote from: rond on Sep 17, 2005 at 10:39 AM

Hindi pa ba phased out ang M74?

M74 is phased out. Its quite hard to find nowadays. If people sell this, they usually sell their whole 5.1 setup.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: degro01 on Sep 17, 2005 at 05:26 PM: Thanks av_phile1 and matzter!

Will consider your thoughts. Probably I'll visit Sonny T. to look into his Jamo Subwoofer. Maganda daw tunog at porma.

Sayang phased out na M74. Gusto ko lang sana maging magkakamukha yung main at surround ko. :(

Thanks!
Title: new mission
Post by: tonedeaf on Nov 20, 2005 at 04:17 PM: Hi all,

i started this thread in 2002, when i first got interested in HT. As a result of my fascination, I ended up with the following:

Onkyo 494 receiver
Mission M73(fronts)
Mission M7C1(center)

I was planning to get the M70 for rear speakers, but i never got around to it as my budget didn't permit it at the moment.

Now, however, i am now planning to get rear speakers. From what i've read in this thread, the M7 series has been phased out. What's compatible with my system kaya?
Title: Re: new mission
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 21, 2005 at 10:10 AM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Nov 20, 2005 at 04:17 PM
Hi all,

i started this thread in 2002, when i first got interested in HT. As a result of my fascination, I ended up with the following:

Onkyo 494 receiver
Mission M73(fronts)
Mission M7C1(center)

I was planning to get the M70 for rear speakers, but i never got around to it as my budget didn't permit it at the moment.

Now, however, i am now planning to get rear speakers. From what i've read in this thread, the M7 series has been phased out. What's compatible with my system kaya?

I have seen people selling their M7 series bipolar DS speakers in the buy & sell section.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Nov 21, 2005 at 04:36 PM: ako naman naghahanap ng M7C2 center speaker... balak kong ilipat yung M7C1 sa likod, pang rear center speaker...

wala na akong makitang M7c2 sa mga stores.... mukang 2nd hand na lang ang pag-asa ko....:(
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: silhouette on Dec 01, 2005 at 08:02 AM: rond, hirap nga humanap ng M74. i've been keeping mine together with M71i for surrounds and M7c1. medyo bitin lang yung centers, pero ok lang.

i agree with matzter, if ever an owner of M70 serries will sell their speakers. they'll sell it as a family.
benta ko na kaya...hehe.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: gaol on Dec 01, 2005 at 08:11 AM: I'm looking for m70 speakers (the smallest in the range) myself for rear surround duty. So, if anyone wants to unload these babies . . . ;D ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: old_age on Dec 29, 2005 at 11:21 PM: had an HT session today at Matzter's truly Home Theater place...the M3s sounded perfectly with the HK (biwired with Ecosse CS2.3 in HF and Ixos 6006 in LF) in 7.1 and seamless with the Velodyne CHT12R.

Amazing.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 31, 2005 at 11:32 AM: Quote from: new_age on Dec 29, 2005 at 11:21 PM
had an HT session today at Matzter's truly Home Theater place...the M3s sounded perfectly with the HK (biwired with Ecosse CS2.3 in HF and Ixos 6006 in LF) in 7.1 and seamless with the Velodyne CHT12R.

Amazing.

Thanks buddy! Syempre yung Ecosse2.3 recommendation yan ng guru ko (ikaw). And truly, ang ganda nga ng result! worth every penny!

Thanks for recommending this cable to me! :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: dexterc on Jan 11, 2006 at 05:28 PM: Quote from: silhouette on Dec 01, 2005 at 08:02 AM
rond, hirap nga humanap ng M74. i've been keeping mine together with M71i for surrounds and M7c1. medyo bitin lang yung centers, pero ok lang.

i agree with matzter, if ever an owner of M70 serries will sell their speakers. they'll sell it as a family.
benta ko na kaya...hehe.

parang kilala ko yung bumili ng m70 mo ah hehehe..those babies are damn good for surrounds ;D
Title: Mission 783 speakers
Post by: mattmatt on Jan 28, 2006 at 04:48 PM: Advice needed, is it true that mission 783 series was not designed for home theater use? I have my 2 fronts and centers driver ALL changed in a span of 13 months, that was what mission techinician said....would like to hear from mission 783 owners on feedback with their use, am pairing it with onkyo txnr 900.... ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: silent_loud21 on Jan 29, 2006 at 05:34 AM: bago lang po. Any review for this model m780 avail sa buy and sell. pa review naman sa mga owner, ok kaya to, ok kaya integration nito w/ sub cht10r and onkyo 601 for movie music(rock) use.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on Feb 01, 2006 at 09:12 PM: Quote from: magzzz on Jan 29, 2006 at 05:34 AM
bago lang po. Any review for this model m780 avail sa buy and sell. pa review naman sa mga owner, ok kaya to, ok kaya integration nito w/ sub cht10r and onkyo 601 for movie music(rock) use.
I have just receive email from mission uk, since I have forwarded to them my problem, they have admitted that they have problems with the 78 range, but they did not recall since the by the time they found out it was too far down the line. However, they advice us to contact local distributor here and arrange to change all of the bass mid units in the 78 speakers since they have the replacement units, The only charge is for us to should the cost of carriage..So all you 78 mission series owners take note of this..... :-[
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 08, 2006 at 01:55 PM: I Bi amped my Mission M34 last night.

HK630 goes to the HF with Ecosse 2.3, then a Kenwood 130wpc THX amp powers the LF using IXOS6006.

Ganda! hataw sa sounds, super detailed!

It sounded almost as good as my friend's 100k speakers!

Galing talaga ng Mission! Value for money!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on May 26, 2006 at 07:35 AM: Naka VDO-XLO wires ako..ano kaya magandang gamitin pang bi-wire? hmm..same wire brand ok lang? nga pla O.T., matzer, ung sabre na speaker stands di daw pde sand fill sabi sa spectra...pwde kaya butasan un,then fill it with sand? ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 26, 2006 at 11:26 AM: Deo: Yung model na gusto mo, pwede sand fill yung gitnang post.

Back to topic.

I auditioned Mission M51 at Spectra a few days ago, haay, ang ganda ng tunog. And I just auditioned Dali Ikon 6 floorstander a few mins before that and talagang panalo pa rin yung M51 bookshelf sa tunog (for my listening preference).

Pag may funds na sana may M53 pa rin available. M5 series talaga yung gusto ko before but di kaya ng budget, so nag M3 na lang muna.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: qguy on May 26, 2006 at 01:55 PM: did you listen to both models in the same room ?

Quote from: MAtZTER on May 26, 2006 at 11:26 AM
Deo: Yung model na gusto mo, pwede sand fill yung gitnang post.

Back to topic.

I auditioned Mission M51 at Spectra a few days ago, haay, ang ganda ng tunog. And I just auditioned Dali Ikon 6 floorstander a few mins before that and talagang panalo pa rin yung M51 bookshelf sa tunog (for my listening preference).

Pag may funds na sana may M53 pa rin available. M5 series talaga yung gusto ko before but di kaya ng budget, so nag M3 na lang muna.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 26, 2006 at 02:23 PM: Quote from: qguy on May 26, 2006 at 01:55 PM
did you listen to both models in the same room ?

That would not be possible since one is being sold at Archi Audio and the other at Spectra, but both stores didnt really have a big difference in their room displays. I had about 30 mins gap listening to the 2 speakers, so my comparison was memory based and not AB test in the same room.

Aside from the room, other factors have to be considered like the gears used, etc. But like I said, my observation is based on my listening preference.

There was a guy there who was about to buy EPOS speakers but when he heard the M51 w/ me, he changed his mind, lol.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on May 26, 2006 at 02:34 PM: I just called the Mission distributor and he said that even though the mother company has been bought by IAG. Production resumes in U.K. but the Malaysia Factory is being moved to China.

So U.K. models are still available (like the M5), but Malaysia models are not for the meantime, until the China factory is operational.

So there you go folks. No need to be afraid of your speaker's service requirements or more importantly, depreciation. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on May 27, 2006 at 02:01 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on May 26, 2006 at 11:26 AM
Deo: Yung model na gusto mo, pwede sand fill yung gitnang post.

Pag may funds na sana may M53 pa rin available. M5 series talaga yung gusto ko before but di kaya ng budget, so nag M3 na lang muna.

Nakabili nako ng sabre speaker stand sa sights and sounds shang, oo nga pde nga lagyan ng sand :D May kapares na center ba ang M5? sayang ung binebenta sakin before na 2nd hand na m5 sa Watt Hi-fi, 15k lang ata un, pwde pa card :P
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: marckd1 on Jun 21, 2006 at 04:19 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on May 26, 2006 at 11:26 AM

I auditioned Mission M51 at Spectra a few days ago, haay, ang ganda ng tunog. And I just auditioned Dali Ikon 6 floorstander a few mins before that and talagang panalo pa rin yung M51 bookshelf sa tunog (for my listening preference).

Pag may funds na sana may M53 pa rin available. M5 series talaga yung gusto ko before but di kaya ng budget, so nag M3 na lang muna.

Bro, nabili na nang friend ko yung M51 sa spectra. Ganda talaga ng tunog kaya kinuha na agad at isa na sya ngayong bagong "MISSIONARYO" ;D From wharf sya dati at halos bago pa pero ibinenta buong set ng marinig ang nadinig mo. 8)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 22, 2006 at 10:33 AM: Quote from: marckd1 on Jun 21, 2006 at 04:19 PM

Bro, nabili na nang friend ko yung M51 sa spectra. Ganda talaga ng tunog kaya kinuha na agad at isa na sya ngayong bagong "MISSIONARYO" ;D From wharf sya dati at halos bago pa pero ibinenta buong set ng marinig ang nadinig mo. 8)

Congrats to your friend!

Yun sana gusto ko, black. Pero walang center na black. So I had to get the rosewood. I have now upgraded from M3 to M5 (M52, center and M5 ds!) series and I am very happy with the new toys. I am still a missionaryo and I just love the sound of Mission speakers.

U.K. made na lahat ng 7 speakers ko! :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jerq on Jun 22, 2006 at 10:53 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Jun 22, 2006 at 10:33 AM
Congrats to your friend!

Yun sana gusto ko, black. Pero walang center na black. So I had to get the rosewood.

What??? wlang black na center??? pano na ko nyan?? :(
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 22, 2006 at 10:59 AM: Quote from: jerq on Jun 22, 2006 at 10:53 AM
What??? wlang black na center??? pano na ko nyan?? :(

Aha! ikaw pala yun! haha!

Not to worry! you can call the distributor and ask him to order one for you.

Medyo konting hintay lang cuz it will come from the UK pa.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: marckd1 on Jun 23, 2006 at 12:12 PM: hahahaha, AYUZ! umamin na.
Wala na daw stock na black m5c kaya rosewood ang only choice nya. Ok na din yan kasi same naman ang front cover ng m5's. Match na match sa Yammy 1400 yan bro.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: BongerDude on Aug 03, 2006 at 02:26 PM: Tanong lang bros... Match ba m7c1 center sa m74i floorstanders? thanks!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 03, 2006 at 02:35 PM: For the M74 , mas bagay yung M7c2. read a few posts back.

just my 2 cents
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: BongerDude on Aug 03, 2006 at 02:56 PM: Yun nga sir MAtz eh... kaso mukhang malabo na ko makakita nun. Eh c sir danrd binebenta yung m7c1 nya eh... parang nakakapanghinayang kung palalampasin ko. Malayo kaya difference sir? Ano po suggestion nyo? Hintay na lang ng m7c2 o pwede na m7c1?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 04, 2006 at 10:29 AM: Tanong mo si Try audio. Dati he had a M7c2
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: BongerDude on Aug 04, 2006 at 10:40 AM: Sir meron na akong nakita m7c2. Ito talaga match sa m74i eh. Kaso di pa nagrereply yung nagbebenta ng m74i from pampanga. Still waiting for the pics na masend sa email. Gusto ko rin kasi matikman ang missions kasi idol ko kayo eh. ;D ;D ;D Pero kung wala syang txt hanggang mmyang 12mn... sub na lang muna. Not the right time for me to have a mission setup siguro :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 04, 2006 at 11:46 AM: Gud luck, Sana makuha mo. Sulit talga missions.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: BongerDude on Aug 07, 2006 at 11:56 AM: Mga bros, anong noticeable difference ng m34 sa m74i? Nacompare ko lang kasi m74i sa Euros 8 towers. Nasurprise ako na maski malaki yung euros, parang same lang sila ng size pag pinakinggan. Mas feel mo rin yung bass sa m74i at mas crisp at malinis ang treble at mids although the m74i only has 2 woofers and a tweeter while the euros8 tower has 2 woofers, 1 mid and 1 tweeter. Nakakatuwa lang sya at maski icrank up ko yung volume malinis pa rin tumunog...walang punit!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Vhongbiker on Aug 24, 2006 at 06:21 AM: mission mission mission, wowwww!!!!
dami talagang may gusto ng mission. bakit kaya? ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Aug 24, 2006 at 07:21 AM: Quote from: vhongBIKER on Aug 24, 2006 at 06:21 AM
mission mission mission, wowwww!!!!
dami talagang may gusto ng mission. bakit kaya? ???

eh bakit nga kaya? sino ba pinaka malaking debil >:) dto naka mission set-up?! all uk-made pa ang 7.1 speakers nya! ;D hehehehe!!! peace!!! sya rin dahilan kung bakit napa -mission ako ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 24, 2006 at 10:39 AM: LOL, pero sure naman ako na NO REGRETS kayo, sulit na sulit ang missions di ba?

Pang high end sound sa presyong abot kaya!

Parang commercial ah. ;D

Deo mali yung >:), dapat >:D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ricky on Aug 24, 2006 at 10:48 AM: So pare admit mo naikaw pinakamalaking devil dito? ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Vhongbiker on Aug 24, 2006 at 12:16 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Aug 24, 2006 at 10:39 AM

Pang high end sound sa presyong abot kaya!

Parang commercial ah. ;D

Deo mali yung >:), dapat >:D

your right sir! :)
kaya halos lahat ng nagpost ng HT set up naka mission.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 24, 2006 at 02:02 PM: malaki ang diperensya ng m7c1 sa m7c2.....mataba ang tunog ng m7c2.....mas maganda ang soundstage

yung m7c1 ko eh ginawa kong back surround.....m3c2 ang center ko ngayon....ang hirap ng makahanap ng m7c2 eh....although pwede raw umorder sa Mission mismo...papa-order ka sa distributor nila which is medyo mahal dahil special arrangement tsaka I have to wait for 1 week at hindi na ako makahintay...so m3c2 ang kinuha ko dahil naka-sale sya.....nakamura pa ako compared if I will order the M7C2..

malaki rin ang diperensya ng tunog nung m7c1 ko sa m3c2 na binili ko.....

BUT....pwedeng Bi-amp/Bi-wire ang M7c2.....tsaka mas malaki sya.....(I mean mas mahaba) compared sa M3c2....
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Vhongbiker on Aug 24, 2006 at 05:48 PM: Quote from: 5Speed on Aug 24, 2006 at 02:02 PM
malaki ang diperensya ng m7c1 sa m7c2.....mataba ang tunog ng m7c2.....mas maganda ang soundstage

yung m7c1 ko eh ginawa kong back surround.....m3c2 ang center ko ngayon....ang hirap ng makahanap ng m7c2 eh....although pwede raw umorder sa Mission mismo...papa-order ka sa distributor nila which is medyo mahal dahil special arrangement tsaka I have to wait for 1 week at hindi na ako makahintay...so m3c2 ang kinuha ko dahil naka-sale sya.....nakamura pa ako compared if I will order the M7C2..

malaki rin ang diperensya ng tunog nung m7c1 ko sa m3c2 na binili ko.....

BUT....pwedeng Bi-amp/Bi-wire ang M7c2.....tsaka mas malaki sya.....(I mean mas mahaba) compared sa M3c2....

how much ngayon m3c2 bro?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Aug 24, 2006 at 06:37 PM: Meron bang M7C2 or M3C2 silver dyan?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: BongerDude on Aug 24, 2006 at 07:30 PM: Quote from: vhongBIKER on Aug 24, 2006 at 06:21 AM
mission mission mission, wowwww!!!!
dami talagang may gusto ng mission. bakit kaya? ???

Onga bakit kaya? Kung walang thread sina Matz, Munskie, deo, danrd at iba pang mga astigin like ni marckd1, eh di ako nag MISSION. Iba talaga impluwensya netong mga taong to nakakahawa
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 25, 2006 at 10:40 AM: Quote from: vhongBIKER on Aug 24, 2006 at 05:48 PM
how much ngayon m3c2 bro?

around P9750 ang kuha ko kung convert sa peso......magkano kaya dyan sa atin?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 25, 2006 at 11:01 AM: Quote from: BongerDude on Aug 24, 2006 at 07:30 PM
Onga bakit kaya? Kung walang thread sina Matz, Munskie, deo, danrd at iba pang mga astigin like ni marckd1, eh di ako nag MISSION. Iba talaga impluwensya netong mga taong to nakakahawa

B&W 6 series at Mission 7 series ang pinagpilian kong speakers noon dahil yun lang ang kaya ng powers ko....but after so much comparison eh pinili ko ang Mission dahil mas mura sya ng konti at mas maganda para sa pandinig ko yung high's nya....(wala pang S3 model ang B&W noon, iba rin kasi ang tunog ng S3's...) tsaka mas parang mas nagagandahan ako sa build quality ng Mission at that time....dun lang sa binding post sa likod eh kita mo na yung pagkakaiba, me sticker pa ng mga informations regarding impedance, wattage, etc unlike the other speaker na parang tinipid....mas makapal din yung plate na nakakabit sa binding post.....

Para sa akin eh bang for the buck itong nabili kong M7 series.....hapi pa ako sa speakers ko...hehehehe Personally mas gusto ko pa ang tunog nitong M7 dun sa M3's...but ibang usapan na kapag M5's na kagaya nung kay idol MATZER...herherherher

yung AVR naman ang napapagdiskitahan ko sa ngayon, medyo luma na kasi eh.....herehrerhehrer (sana wag lumala ang Sars ko..) ;D

Kung me extrang moolah ako non eh yung M780se na mission ang bibilin ko......ganda tunog non..... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 25, 2006 at 11:39 AM: Maganda 7 series. Nabenta ko M72 ko recently and I cant help but regret it. :-\

The one who bought it from me was a guy who also sold his M72 before and regretted it. So he is keeping this one permanently
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Vhongbiker on Aug 25, 2006 at 12:27 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Aug 25, 2006 at 11:39 AM
Maganda 7 series. Nabenta ko M72 ko recently and I cant help but regret it. :-\

The one who bought it from me was a guy who also sold his M72 before and regretted it. So he is keeping this one permanently

sayang nga e, naunahan ako. >:(
pero nakakuha din ako sa tulong ng buyandsellph.com :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: marckd1 on Aug 25, 2006 at 12:37 PM: Quote from: BongerDude on Aug 24, 2006 at 07:30 PM
Onga bakit kaya? Kung walang thread sina Matz, Munskie, deo, danrd at iba pang mga astigin like ni marckd1, eh di ako nag MISSION. Iba talaga impluwensya netong mga taong to nakakahawa

hindi lang siguro impluwensya kung bakit tayo nag Mission, maybe because of its price and quality of sounds that we can compare/compete sa high end speakers.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: danrd on Aug 25, 2006 at 01:26 PM: Speakers like this makes life a lot sweeter isn't it? :) Kahit na mahal e sulit na sulit. Just upgraded my fronts and center cables to guage 12. The results - Woohoo!!! :o :o Parang nag-upgrade na naman ako ng avr. Mas bumilog tsaka well defined yung highs and mids. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 25, 2006 at 05:49 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Aug 25, 2006 at 11:39 AM
Maganda 7 series. Nabenta ko M72 ko recently and I cant help but regret it. :-\

The one who bought it from me was a guy who also sold his M72 before and regretted it. So he is keeping this one permanently

I have the M72i.....and happy with it.....
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: dagul27 on Aug 26, 2006 at 02:10 AM: Mga sir, what's the price of M34i or M35i/pair?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Aug 26, 2006 at 08:25 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Aug 24, 2006 at 10:39 AM
LOL, pero sure naman ako na NO REGRETS kayo, sulit na sulit ang missions di ba?

Pang high end sound sa presyong abot kaya!

Parang commercial ah. ;D

Deo mali yung >:), dapat >:D

wehehehe!!! teka, ikaw ba un? si marckd1 ung sinasabi ko ::) wehehehe!!! pero ikaw ung >:D balikan ko muna ung thread mo, baka may bagong upgrade :P
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 28, 2006 at 10:34 AM: Quote from: ricky on Aug 24, 2006 at 10:48 AM
So pare admit mo naikaw pinakamalaking devil dito? ;D

Quote from: deo on Aug 26, 2006 at 08:25 AM
wehehehe!!! teka, ikaw ba un? si marckd1 ung sinasabi ko ::) wehehehe!!! pero ikaw ung >:D balikan ko muna ung thread mo, baka may bagong upgrade :P

OPS OPS! basahin mabuti! Wala naman sa post ko nagi-indicate na inaamin ko ah. I am merely confirming about Mission's value for money...

;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mj23 on Aug 29, 2006 at 04:58 PM: Mga Sir,

If you were to buy brand new UK Mission speakers, what would you recommend na available dito sa pinas. Floorstanders, center and surrounds for a 6.1 or 7.1 setup. Sana yung hindi masyadong mahal.

Thanks in advance!!! :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: BongerDude on Aug 29, 2006 at 08:11 PM: Quote from: mj23 on Aug 29, 2006 at 04:58 PM
Mga Sir,

If you were to buy brand new UK Mission speakers, what would you recommend na available dito sa pinas. Floorstanders, center and surrounds for a 6.1 or 7.1 setup. Sana yung hindi masyadong mahal.

Thanks in advance!!! :)

UK Mission ba ito? ;D ;D ;D

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=38702.0

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42114.0

Pero sabi mo sana hindi masyadong mahal... well, subjective yan. Baka ang mahal para sakin eh mura lang sayo ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Aug 30, 2006 at 06:30 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Aug 28, 2006 at 10:34 AM
OPS OPS! basahin mabuti! Wala naman sa post ko nagi-indicate na inaamin ko ah. I am merely confirming about Mission's value for money...
;D
ANYENYE!! ;D HAAAYYYY...GUSTO KO NA TLAGA MAG UPGRADE NG SURROUNDS...BUMIBIGAY NA UNG LEFT SURROUND KO ;( DI NAMAN CRITICAL ANG SURROUNDS DIBA? ;d WEHEHEHE!!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mj23 on Aug 30, 2006 at 11:19 AM: Quote from: BongerDude on Aug 29, 2006 at 08:11 PM
UK Mission ba ito? ;D ;D ;D

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=38702.0

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42114.0

Pero sabi mo sana hindi masyadong mahal... well, subjective yan. Baka ang mahal para sakin eh mura lang sayo ;D

Thanks sir, pero tumitingin ako sa website ng mission, wala tong mge na-mention mo dun e.any other suggestions>
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 30, 2006 at 12:03 PM: Kasi yung pinuntahan mo is the new Mission site. Hanapin mo yung link to the old site.

OLD MISSION SITE (http://oldsite.mission-hifi.com/index1.htm) click

If ever di na sya nima manufacture, I dont think it matters. Speakers are speakers, given proper use and care, they will last for a long long time, like power amps. The new technologies in the development of speakers in this category are minimal & wont really give you night & day difference.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kojie on Sep 04, 2006 at 01:37 AM: mga sir ano po ba maganda entry level bookshelf speakers from mission ?
matching center ? and rears ? prices na rin po

gustong kong i-audtion agains the wharfedales 9.1 kse.

thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Sep 05, 2006 at 06:40 AM: Quote from: kojie on Sep 04, 2006 at 01:37 AM
mga sir ano po ba maganda entry level bookshelf speakers from mission ?
matching center ? and rears ? prices na rin po

gustong kong i-audtion agains the wharfedales 9.1 kse.

thanks

bro,ok ang wharfedale 9 series, un din ang first choice ko kasi alam kong mahal ang mission. Pero nung inaudition ko sya versus the m3 series ng mission..ang layo ng difference..di ka mag sisisi sa mission bro,..unahin mo muna ung center mo kung wla kang budget ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kojie on Sep 05, 2006 at 09:46 AM: magkano po avg. market pricing ng m3 series na bookshelf w/ matching center and surround ?

tnx :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ravel on Sep 08, 2006 at 09:43 AM: Any idea where I can still buy a mission m7c2? Thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 08, 2006 at 11:11 AM: I assume that the Entry level Mission M3 and M7 series yung katumbas ng B&W 3 series and yung M5's ang katumbas ng B&W 6 series, tama ba?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 11, 2006 at 11:43 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Sep 08, 2006 at 11:11 AM
I assume that the Entry level Mission M3 and M7 series yung katumbas ng B&W 3 series and yung M5's ang katumbas ng B&W 6 series, tama ba?

Sabi daw ni SGT sa akin last week:

He prefers the Mission M5's to the B&W 6 series. Sounds better daw.
Mas mataas daw na series ang M5's kesa sa B&W 6 series. (didnt know this)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ricky on Sep 11, 2006 at 11:48 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Sep 11, 2006 at 11:43 AM
Sabi daw ni SGT sa akin last week:

He prefers the Mission M5's to the B&W 6 series. Sounds better daw.
Mas mataas daw na series ang M5's kesa sa B&W 6 series. (didnt know this)

Yung M5 mataas talaga sa 6series pero yung M6 mas mataas sa M5 ;D ay sa BMW pala yon and hindi sa B&Ws ;D ;D ;D joke
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 11, 2006 at 11:53 AM: Quote from: ricky on Sep 11, 2006 at 11:48 AM
Yung M5 mataas talaga sa 6series pero yung M6 mas mataas sa M5 ;D ay sa BMW pala yon and hindi sa B&Ws ;D ;D ;D joke

Pinakamataas yung M5 sport. P7m daw. Whoo!

Actually may M6 series na yung Missions. Eto yung top end Volare series na instead of V60, V63, etc, naging M63, M60...

Teka, walang 6 series ang BMW, talon agad sa 7 series! ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ricky on Sep 11, 2006 at 11:57 AM: meron po matagal na ;) baka sa old mission este BMW site ka nagpunta ;D sorry ot
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: marckd1 on Sep 12, 2006 at 12:19 PM: dapat yung volare ang kukunin ko instead of m53 but according to sgt mas ok tumunog ang m5. 3k lang ata yung difference nilang dalawa. Kaya nag side by side demo kami ng volare at m53. iba talaga tumunog ang m5, malapad ang mids ang swabe ang highs.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 12, 2006 at 12:30 PM: Quote from: marckd1 on Sep 12, 2006 at 12:19 PM
dapat yung volare ang kukunin ko instead of m53 but according to sgt mas ok tumunog ang m5. 3k lang ata yung difference nilang dalawa. Kaya nag side by side demo kami ng volare at m53. iba talaga tumunog ang m5, malapad ang mids ang swabe ang highs.

Parehong maganda porma ng 2 but I personally found the M5's looks to be better. The good thing about M5's is that they are good for both music and HT. Sayang out of stock na.

The guy I got my pre-owned M5's from was a tube/ TT based audiophile with over 250+k in audio equipment, TT pa lang nya 90k na, cable 17k, whew! I thought to myself that time, if he uses the Missions for his expensive investment, then these speakers must be good.

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iba talaga tumunog ang m5, malapad ang mids ang swabe ang highs.

Amen! EXCELLENT SPEAKERS!

I have auditioned B&W 6 series speakers maaaany times. IMHO, the M5's really sound better (my listening taste). B&W's kasi for me are good at lows and mids (and prestige/popularity ;D, bah, I dont need that), but fail my requirements for highs.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Sep 12, 2006 at 02:16 PM: ser matz....

ang mahal nga nung TT nya kung 90K yon...harahrahrahrar ;D

hmmm di ko pa naririnig ang tunog nyang M5 :(....pero yung 780SE eh narinig ko na.....ganda tunog non.... :o sad to say eh out of production na yon....
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Daemon_Seraphim on Sep 19, 2006 at 01:33 PM: How much for the m3 series speakers?
Where to buy these products?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Sep 21, 2006 at 05:51 AM: Quote from: Daemon_Seraphim on Sep 19, 2006 at 01:33 PM
How much for the m3 series speakers?
Where to buy these products?

Thanks!

sa spectra, sights and sounds, watts hi fi, although madalas wala silang display. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: lakambini on Sep 21, 2006 at 10:41 AM: guys,

available na ba locally 790 series?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Oct 13, 2006 at 11:24 AM: mga sir, i'm planning to replace may diamond 8's with mission speakers. magkano po ba ang price ng m35? at ano po ang match na center at surround? ok lang po ba sya kung match ko sya sa yammy... ok din po ba m73i, m7c1 at m7ds? SARS na ito... hehehe!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 13, 2006 at 11:42 AM: Quote from: Assassin101 on Oct 13, 2006 at 11:24 AM
mga sir, i'm planning to replace may diamond 8's with mission speakers. magkano po ba ang price ng m35? at ano po ang match na center at surround? ok lang po ba sya kung match ko sya sa yammy... ok din po ba m73i, m7c1 at m7ds? SARS na ito... hehehe!

Last time I asked M35's were around 35k. M3C2 center will match it well but they are nowhere to be found. But I saw M35's at Upscale Audio before they renovated.

What yammy model? I wouldnt recommend the big M35 for lower model Yammies, baka manipis ang tunog. I used to own M34's and the difference with using them with an entry level Yammy receiver and a more powerful mid level HK was very big. Ang nipis ng tunog sa Yammy before.

Used to own M7's too and they are great, but hard to find these days, for keeps kasi missions so bihira may nagbebenta.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 13, 2006 at 11:51 AM: If you have a budget for an M35, why not go for the mid-level series of Mission, the M5's kahit bookshelf lang (if you have at least a Yammy 1400 or 1500) . They sound much more refined (wow sa clarity) and are excellent in both HT and music.

This way, MALAKI ang difference ng upgrade mo from Wharfe 8's. Baka kasi not that big a difference yung upgrade pag entry level pa din kukunin mo. Think of it, usually the entry level floorstanders cost almost the same as the Mid level bookshelves (true for Mission & MA). And yung refinement, clarity & performance of the mid level is truly :o & worth it for me.

It was the only reason I had to sell my M7's, cuz I cant go back listening to it when I also have an M5, medyo malayo & yung M5's lang pinakikinggan ko (na storage tuloy si M7)

Also, I think for now, these mid level U.K. made M5's and Volare series are the only ones available. If you power them well, I am sure you wont regret buying them.

My friend who has very expensive speakers visited my setup and heard my well powered M5's (200w bi-amped). He said he liked them more than his speakers that cost 2x more! :) Truly makes me proud to be a Mission owner!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Oct 13, 2006 at 12:58 PM: Sir Matz... tama ka dyan, ni-try namin dun sa M72i ko dati yung entry level na Yammy 3xx something at manipis nga ang tunog.....

for keeps nga itong Missions sa mga gaya kong limited ang budget....unless you have lots of money already, then you will change your perspective and buy a high end system.. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Oct 13, 2006 at 01:35 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Oct 13, 2006 at 11:51 AM
If you have a budget for an M35, why not go for the mid-level series of Mission, the M5's kahit bookshelf lang (if you have at least a Yammy 1400 or 1500) . They sound much more refined (wow sa clarity) and are excellent in both HT and music.

This way, MALAKI ang difference ng upgrade mo from Wharfe 8's. Baka kasi not that big a difference yung upgrade pag entry level pa din kukunin mo. Think of it, usually the entry level floorstanders cost almost the same as the Mid level bookshelves (true for Mission & MA). And yung refinement, clarity & performance of the mid level is truly :o & worth it for me.

It was the only reason I had to sell my M7's, cuz I cant go back listening to it when I also have an M5, medyo malayo & yung M5's lang pinakikinggan ko (na storage tuloy si M7)

Also, I think for now, these mid level U.K. made M5's and Volare series are the only ones available. If you power them well, I am sure you wont regret buying them.

My friend who has very expensive speakers visited my setup and heard my well powered M5's (200w bi-amped). He said he liked them more than his speakers that cost 2x more! :) Truly makes me proud to be a Mission owner!

sir thanks for the adviced. currently im using rxv650. mukhang ndi kaya ng budget un m3s hehehe. pero im open naman to pre owned maski m74i na llang at m7c2. mga around 25k lang kasi kaya ko at baka ibitin na ako ng wife ko. mukhang wala na ata ako makukuhang m74i.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: newbie pa rin on Oct 13, 2006 at 04:14 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Oct 13, 2006 at 11:51 AM

My friend who has very expensive speakers visited my setup and heard my well powered M5's (200w bi-amped). He said he liked them more than his speakers that cost 2x more! :) Truly makes me proud to be a Mission owner!

Hindi kaya kulang lang sa power thats why hindi maganda lumalabas na tunog sa pandinig nya?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: BongerDude on Oct 14, 2006 at 11:49 AM: Quote from: Assassin101 on Oct 13, 2006 at 01:35 PM
sir thanks for the adviced. currently im using rxv650. mukhang ndi kaya ng budget un m3s hehehe. pero im open naman to pre owned maski m74i na llang at m7c2. mga around 25k lang kasi kaya ko at baka ibitin na ako ng wife ko. mukhang wala na ata ako makukuhang m74i.

Medyo mahirap nga makahanap nyan bro. Dinayo ko pa ang m74i ko sa north at m71 at m7c2 sa south para makumpleto lang setup ko na kung tutuusin eh kulang pa rin. Pero after nun wala kong pinanghinayang kasi talagang laki ng difference sa dati kong speakers. Hintay hintay ka lang kung gs2 mo talaga ng m7 or magipon ka na lang para makakuha ng m3 or m5.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Oct 15, 2006 at 09:13 AM: oh well hintay na nga lang ako ng mag bebenta ng m74i. kung wala until end of the year, baka mag m3 na lang ako hehehe pang mid-year bonus. mwahahaha... ;D :P
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 16, 2006 at 04:10 PM: Quote from: newbie pa rin on Oct 13, 2006 at 04:14 PM
Hindi kaya kulang lang sa power thats why hindi maganda lumalabas na tunog sa pandinig nya?

Nope. I dont think so. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: cousin skeeter on Oct 16, 2006 at 11:29 PM: sirs,

magkano ba ngayon M33i and M34i? and who selling them? tnx!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Nov 05, 2006 at 08:11 PM: i got the chance to audition the m34 and the m52 side by side with the m3c2 and m5c. aesthetically the m52 realy looks great. then we tried playing the demo disk 9 on the m52 and the m5c. wow ganda talaga, sound and clarity spectacular, we also played a classical audio disk and diana krall. it was really superb. para tuloy ayaw ko na audition yun m34 at m3c2 ;D ;D ;D. after that we plugged in the m34 and m3c2, we also demoed the demo disk 9 and the eagle's hell freezes over. it was also great. but compared with the m52 with only one driver, th m52 is still my choice. the only problem now is the WAF ::) ::) ::). hindi ko nga pinakita sa wife ko yun price na binigay sakin eh. hahaha! i'll try to bring my yammy 650 to the shop, tignan ko kung kaya nya drive ang m34 at m52 at try ko din audition yun m53 na gwapon gwapo. hope you guys can help me decide kasi i'm still a newbie in this hobby and hindi ko alam how to audition correctly and what thing i need to hear when auditioning. ??? :-[
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 06, 2006 at 02:38 PM: I used the same receiver (Yammy 650) on my M34 last year. Then went for a HK630, you could immediately hear the difference. Mas makapal tumunog yung MIDs compared to the previous setup specially in music, mas may authority sa HT. Iba talaga nagagawa ng well fed/powered floorstander.

Now I am using M52, I dont know if it will sound as good on my old Yammy 650. But judging from my previous experience between 2 different class of receivers, I am not quite sure it will. The mids are the strong point of the M5's & an underpowered mid level speaker having thin MIDs defeats the purpose in HT & specially in music IMO.

But thats just my 2 cents. Dont take my word for it, just audition it & trust your ears :)

Quote from: Assassin101 on Nov 05, 2006 at 08:11 PM
i'll try to bring my yammy 650 to the shop, tignan ko kung kaya nya drive ang m34 at m52 at try ko din audition yun m53 na gwapon gwapo. hope you guys can help me decide kasi i'm still a newbie in this hobby and hindi ko alam how to audition correctly and what thing i need to hear when auditioning. ??? :-[

For HT, listen to the mids. The HF is easy to power & I beleieve the M5's will excell at this even with lower powered receivers. The LFE is handled by the sub, so the mids are the best thing to listen to. Bring Jurassic Park DVD's (wag p**ted :D), in my M52 setup, the T-REX roar was :o :o :o w/ these wonderful speakers. You will notice its the mids punching in the syllables of the R-R-R & NOT the sub. Try also Gangs of New York in Demo#8. When the cannons explode (a very demanding scene IMO) & masakit sa tenga, sadly di kaya ng receiver :(.

In 2 channel music (pure direct mode) listen for the whole audio spectrum from highs to Lows. The HF & bass of the M5 is much more refined than the the M3's and the mid should be thick (not thin). Actually, when there is music while watching HT, you will suddenly notice the music compared to ur old setup, ang ganda ng music performance ng M5's, even as B/G music lang ng movie. Kahit sa M5ds surrounds pa galing!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Nov 06, 2006 at 07:05 PM: thanks for you adviced. i'm now decided that i'll be getting the m52 and the m5c. next funding na lang muna un m5ds at next will be the AVR. hehehe. thanks sir matz ;D ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 07, 2006 at 10:33 AM: Quote from: Assassin101 on Nov 06, 2006 at 07:05 PM
thanks for you adviced. i'm now decided that i'll be getting the m52 and the m5c. next funding na lang muna un m5ds at next will be the AVR. hehehe. thanks sir matz ;D ;)

Good choice, mas madali i-power ang M52 kesa sa M53. Another recommendation is that you get a power amp from the B/S section (usually less than 10k lang naman sila), instead of buying a new receiver. The Yammy 650 has pre outs so this option is more economical.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Nov 07, 2006 at 12:06 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Nov 07, 2006 at 10:33 AM
Good choice, mas madali i-power ang M52 kesa sa M53. Another recommendation is that you get a power amp from the B/S section (usually less than 10k lang naman sila), instead of buying a new receiver. The Yammy 650 has pre outs so this option is more economical.

that will be the next step, get a power amp. kaya lang nag titingin ako sas B/S section, wala pa ako makita under 10k.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Nov 21, 2006 at 12:01 PM: i got a pre-owned power amp to help my yammy 650 power the FS. now i can't wait to buy the mission m52 ;D hopefully i can get it by early december. kaya lang ang problem ngayon is, should i go for the m5c or m5ds? my budget is on a constraint. i can't afford to get both surround and the center. which would you recommend i get first? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: chariol on Jan 10, 2007 at 08:34 PM: sir, where can i audition these mission speakers, planning to set up my own ht, so far, i've tried wharfs, mordaunt short , infinity and paradigm.... tnx in advance.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Jan 11, 2007 at 08:10 AM: Quote from: chariol on Jan 10, 2007 at 08:34 PM
sir, where can i audition these mission speakers, planning to set up my own ht, so far, i've tried wharfs, mordaunt short , infinity and paradigm.... tnx in advance.
sir, may i ask your orking budget? what receiver are you going to use? audioworld, the home theater carries mission. where are you located sir?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: chariol on Jan 11, 2007 at 09:46 AM: pasig ako sir, for the receiver i was thinking yamaha 659 around 50 plus cguro for the speakers.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Jan 11, 2007 at 10:14 AM: Quote from: chariol on Jan 11, 2007 at 09:46 AM
pasig ako sir, for the receiver i was thinking yamaha 659 around 50 plus cguro for the speakers.

for the 50k, will that be for the speakers only or receiver included?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 11, 2007 at 11:04 AM: Recommendation lang chariol, if your budget is 50k for the speakers, better if you go for a higher model receiver, you wont regret the difference in quality. Try Yamaha 1000 series (1500, 1400 or up) or HK340 & up.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: chariol on Jan 11, 2007 at 02:01 PM: 50T for the speakers only, how much did you get yours? i'm ok with adding a little for better performance... 5.1 lang ang balak ko. was planning to get the wharfs na... im still researching since di pa tapos home theater room... any recommendations if il get a receiver with hdmi? ty!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 11, 2007 at 02:23 PM: Does 50k include the sub or only the 5 speakers?

Kasi at 50k for 5 speakers only, you could get very good quality mid level speakers already. These are best matched with same quality/level electronics like 30k up receivers. My advice is not to skimp on receivers if you want the best HT experience. Malayo na tunog ng mga 50k receivers sa 20k receivers.

Recommended ang Mission M5's, with good amplification, high end na high end tunog ng HT mo.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Jan 12, 2007 at 02:08 PM: for 50k you'll get the m52 and the m5c.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: saltuhin on Jan 12, 2007 at 08:53 PM: hi guys, i just want to ask mission owners out there kung ano ang babagay na amp for a 702e? my cousin happened to get his hands on one and we were wondering kung ano kamatch na amp para dito. we tried using a vintage luxman kaya lang medyo veiled yung highs. your suggestions would be most welcome. BTW it is a two way floorstander, to be used strictly in audio. thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: baboinsky on Jan 13, 2007 at 11:36 AM: Hello. What's the difference between the M32i and the M33i? I'm torn between those two speakers and I wanted to ask you guys which will you prefer considering that it will be driven by a HK240

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: leomar on Jan 24, 2007 at 09:58 AM: Hi mga gurus!

balak ko sana magbuo ulit ng HT, umpisahan ko muna sa BS - 2ch muna...
magkano po ba ngaun ang M51 dyan sa Pinas ngaun?
anong receiver ang may enough power para dito (and consider na rin ang future setup, with Mission FS fronts and Velo Sub)
salamat po...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 24, 2007 at 01:07 PM: LAst time I auditioned one, it was around 20k. Bagay sya sa (high model) HK receiver IMO, parehong makapal tumunog so ang ganda ng midrange. Pang 2 channel integrated, bagay sya sa exposure integrated amp. I heard it w/ exposure when I auditioned it. Yan, nagka M52 ako w/ in the week. :D

But sa alam ko wala sya stock ngayon dito sa pinas.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: leomar on Jan 24, 2007 at 02:25 PM: @master matz

wala na ding stock dito sa singapore e :-[
yung meron sila, M62i kaso mahal pa! S$899 = PhP 27,xxx.xx, decent Yammy AVR na yun a hehe
hindi branded ung ginamit na AVR nung ni-test ko sa shop nila, pero maganda na ung tunog... decent bass, clear vocals for a BS!
pero pricey pa...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Jan 24, 2007 at 03:35 PM: Quote from: leomar on Jan 24, 2007 at 02:25 PM
@master matz

wala na ding stock dito sa singapore e :-[
yung meron sila, M62i kaso mahal pa! S$899 = PhP 27,xxx.xx, decent Yammy AVR na yun a hehe
hindi branded ung ginamit na AVR nung ni-test ko sa shop nila, pero maganda na ung tunog... decent bass, clear vocals for a BS!
pero pricey pa...

matz is right, it's around 20k here. i too auditioned the m52 after a 2 months bought a pair. :D ;D :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: zHangGoku on Jan 25, 2007 at 10:29 PM: Hi to all, bago lang po ako sa pinoy dvd at sa hobby na ito. :)

kwento lang konti. last year, i bought marantz SR-4500 and infinty primus 150 then medyo feeling ko ay may kulang sa tunog nya. compare sa mga ordinary amplifiers and speakers, mas maganda tumunog ito. pero meron talaga akong hinahanap na tunog na hindi ko maipaliwanag eh. hindi ko alam kung sa receiver ba, o sa speaker, o sa room acoustic, or kung saan pa. o baka naman lahat kailangan palitan na? :D

malaking tulong narin sakin itong pinoydvd dahil atleast nababasa ko at nagkakaroon ng konting idea kung ano ano ba yung mga speakers na magaganda. isa na nga dito yung M52 sa nabasa ko at talaga namang marami ang nagsasabi na maganda raw ang tunog nito (number one of them is sir MAtZTER).

gusto ko sana bumili muna ng floorstand speaker para hindi naman ako mabigla sa gastusan na receiver + floorstand. do you think maganda yung idea ko na speaker muna bilin at pagtiyagaan muna yung marantz, or receiver na kaagad? hindi ko kasi kayang pagsabayin ang bili eh.

meron bang stall ng mission na pwede kong dalin yung receiver ko para matest kung ano kalalabasan ng tunog? kung meron, saan kaya yung medyo mura? last time nadaan ako sa shangrila, mayroong magkatabing stall at pareho silang may M52 and imagine 8k ang difference ng price.

any idea will be appreciated nasa akin parin naman ang decision eh basta idea lang.

thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jan 26, 2007 at 05:58 AM: zHangGoku,
bro contact Assassin101, malaki maitutulong sa iyo nyan.
gudlak!!!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 26, 2007 at 10:44 AM: Zhangoku,

Alam ko yun feeling na yan. Ganyan na ganyan din ako nung bago pa ako sa hobby.

I believe you are looking for the midrange. LFE kasi can be handled by the sub, high freq (HF) can be achieved even by low powered HTiB's (madali lang i-power to). The critical midrange is very important in giving you a convincing immersive feel of the movie, specially w/ very demanding action scenes.The midrange eats up a lot of power.

In my experience, you wont get that in a budget receiver. Like, come on, imagine if you are the receiver company's engineer and you are asked to design a receiver w/ a budget way under 10k (may tubo pa sila, bentahan 20k), may tuner, amp, preamp, & power for 7 channels ???

Luckily, your marantz has pre outs, so the simplest advice is to go for power amps. Its cheaper than going for the more powerful 50k-70k receivers that can provide you the midrange slam & umph.

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malaking tulong narin sakin itong pinoydvd dahil atleast nababasa ko at nagkakaroon ng konting idea kung ano ano ba yung mga speakers na magaganda. isa na nga dito yung M52 sa nabasa ko at talaga namang marami ang nagsasabi na maganda raw ang tunog nito (number one of them is sir MAtZTER).

Nagpalit na po ako ng speakers, kasi more on audio na ako. I am now using a dynaudio floorstander. Now kung alam mo kung magkano ang Dynaudio (doble ng M52) .... and masasabi ko lang ngayon eh, mas maganda pa rin performance ng well powered Mission M52 (at more HALF the cost) sa Home theater. Pero sa music, malayo lamang ng Dyn, but its another price class of course.

Kaya pala may Dyn owner akong friend na bilib na bilib sa performance ng Missions ko. But do take note, I really powered the M52's very well (200w bi-amp :o :o), baka bumili kayo ng M52 & use with a budget receiver tapos sabihin nyo pangit... :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: zHangGoku on Jan 27, 2007 at 02:33 AM: Vhongbiker,

i'll try to contact Assassin101 as soon as possible. thanks :)

MAtZTER,

kailangan pala talaga mataas ang power source. :-\

sir, thanks for giving some time ha. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Feb 01, 2007 at 01:09 PM: my m52 is powered by 150 watts stereo power amp. minsan nga ginagawa ko is set ko receiver LFE sa front lang and you can still fill the punch of the bass. you'll be amazed that this FS can give you that extra ummp.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 01, 2007 at 05:21 PM: Quote from: Assassin101 on Feb 01, 2007 at 01:09 PM
my m52 is powered by 150 watts stereo power amp. minsan nga ginagawa ko is set ko receiver LFE sa front lang and you can still fill the punch of the bass. you'll be amazed that this FS can give you that extra ummp.

LOL, brother! make sure break in na yan bago mo sagarin. Pero hanep yan pag break in na. Hataw midrange. Ang lupit tumunog (with good amps)!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Mr.H on Feb 02, 2007 at 11:29 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Feb 01, 2007 at 05:21 PM
LOL, brother! make sure break in na yan bago mo sagarin. Pero hanep yan pag break in na. Hataw midrange. Ang lupit tumunog (with good amps)!

Yes. I agree with you Idol... totoo nga na malupit tumunog ang M52. :o
My M52 wala pang two weeks old pero ramdam kona ang "LUPIT" niya hehehehe... ;D parang ayaw ko na ngang gawing surrounds eh... :D nasa front ko nilagay katabi ng Paradigm. Nice! ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ricky on Feb 03, 2007 at 07:17 AM: Quote from: Mr.H on Feb 02, 2007 at 11:29 PM
Yes. I agree with you Idol... totoo nga na malupit tumunog ang M52. :o
My M52 wala pang two weeks old pero ramdam kona ang "LUPIT" niya hehehehe... ;D parang ayaw ko na ngang gawing surrounds eh... :D nasa front ko nilagay katabi ng Paradigm. Nice! ;)

Wow hermie m52 just for surrounds :o Yup better use it as your fronts esp for movies ;) IMHO its has diff sound characteristic from your paradigms and would excel better on movies kasi detailed speaker sya :) Si matt kasi kinuha na ng AUDIO NIRVANA- SARS ;D kaya he replaced it with better speakers for audio listening.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Feb 03, 2007 at 10:55 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Feb 01, 2007 at 05:21 PM
LOL, brother! make sure break in na yan bago mo sagarin. Pero hanep yan pag break in na. Hataw midrange. Ang lupit tumunog (with good amps)!

yup still on the break in process pa but ngayon pa lang ramdam ko na yun bass even on moderate listening level. paano pa kayu kung fully break-in na sya :o :o :o
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: butchoy8701 on Mar 05, 2007 at 12:54 PM: Hello,

Has anyone ever had an experience comparing mission volare (v62) with m52? is there a big difference? in performance and price ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Weng! on Mar 05, 2007 at 01:17 PM: Quote from: butchoy8701 on Mar 05, 2007 at 12:54 PM
Hello,

Has anyone ever had an experience comparing mission volare (v62) with m52? is there a big difference? in performance and price ???

sir matz would be the guy who can anwer this :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 05, 2007 at 05:34 PM: Volare series are laid back. In audio, the image is at the back. Tends to excel more in audio. speakers tend to disappear in the room.

M5 series more frontal, aggressive, image is near. Tends to excel in HT.

Depends na lang w/c you prefer.

just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: lakambini on Mar 06, 2007 at 09:56 AM: where can i audition these mission speakers?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: butchoy8701 on Mar 06, 2007 at 12:40 PM: Quote from: lakambini on Mar 06, 2007 at 09:56 AM
where can i audition these mission speakers?

I think SGT "The Home Theater" have these models. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: chariol on Mar 08, 2007 at 02:11 PM: bagay kaya yamaha 1700 sa mission M52 and M5c?? TIA
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 08, 2007 at 03:14 PM: I just read that the RXV 1700 replaces the 2600! Same specs (130w) na sila except for some features that are exclusive to the 2xxx series like YPAO memory, GUI, HDMI upconversion.

All you need to do is to hook up those speakers for HT (1700 awarded "Best for HT" W HiFi 2006), then go for:

CDP--->tube pre-amp---> Yamaha 1700 in pure direct mode (tube pre-amp takes over)---> M52

and you have a wonderful hybrid setup that kicks @$$ in both HT and audio!!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Mar 09, 2007 at 09:34 AM: my system is some what like matz have mentioned, rather a lower end setup. player -> tube buffer -> yamaha -> power amp. yamaha set to pure direct when listening to audio while digital connection on HT, buffer will be bypassed. good enough for me.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: cybermms on Mar 13, 2007 at 07:15 AM: pls check this out:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=63989.0

25-35% DISCOUNT ON MISSION, etc.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: almirage on Mar 29, 2007 at 08:53 PM: guys,
may idea po ba kayo if how much and where can i get a spare 8" mission woofer(drivers used in m7as2 and 7as1)?
thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: swimstroke on May 01, 2007 at 12:09 AM: Hi. :)

Saan may ok na demo ng Mission speakers? And also, low to mid range na 7.1 all Mission mga magkano dapat budget?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: keema on Jun 07, 2007 at 10:24 PM: mga sirs..maganda ba ang mission 78 series?
783 Tower Speakers
780 Speakers
78C Centre Speaker

may mga nakagamit na po ba nito? ano pong comments nyo? thanks...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on Jun 07, 2007 at 11:32 PM: Quote from: keema on Jun 07, 2007 at 10:24 PM
mga sirs..maganda ba ang mission 78 series?
783 Tower Speakers
780 Speakers
78C Centre Speaker

may mga nakagamit na po ba nito? ano pong comments nyo? thanks...

brotherly advice dont buy it, lemon yan may factory defect....may i know who is selling to you?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: cybermms on Jun 08, 2007 at 10:03 PM: Mission willl be at the 2007 Alabang Audio Fair.

Please click this link:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=67229.msg697465#msg697465
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: keema on Jun 08, 2007 at 10:55 PM: okay salamat sir mattmatt :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: cybermms on Jun 15, 2007 at 10:15 PM: Mission floorstanders (all U.K. made and sealed in the box) are on sale at 40% discount.

Please click this link:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=67458.0

cyber
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: leomar on Jun 28, 2007 at 01:51 PM: mga sir, pa-advise naman po...
kaya po bang i-power ng yammy 559 ang mission M31i at M3c2i? maganda ba ang tunog ng ganitong combi?
gagamitin ko po sana mostly for HT ;D

maraming salamat po...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Jun 29, 2007 at 04:29 PM: guys i have a mission set... m73i,m70,m7c1... baka may gusto ng m70... looking for m71 or m72. thx
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 05, 2007 at 11:06 AM: Quote from: leomar on Jun 28, 2007 at 01:51 PM
mga sir, pa-advise naman po...
kaya po bang i-power ng yammy 559 ang mission M31i at M3c2i? maganda ba ang tunog ng ganitong combi?
gagamitin ko po sana mostly for HT ;D

maraming salamat po...

Kaya yan. It would probably excel in HT w/ lots of detail, but might lack warmth in music.

Also try Onkyo or HK, IMHO they suit "bright" Missions perfectly, specially in music.

But if mostly for HT, go yamaha. I would still recommend a separate setup na lang for music.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: leomar on Jul 05, 2007 at 12:17 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Jul 05, 2007 at 11:06 AM
Kaya yan. It would probably excel in HT w/ lots of detail, but might lack warmth in music.

Also try Onkyo or HK, IMHO they suit "bright" Missions perfectly, specially in music.

But if mostly for HT, go yamaha. I would still recommend a separate setup na lang for music.

already bought it sir Matz ;D
I'm satisfied naman sa sound ng yammy 659 + M31i, detailed nga siya sa HT... even sa music i can clearly hear diff instruments used, guitar/organ/cymbals, ung drums andun din pero hindi pa gaano defined kasi bago pa siya... im using Pure Direct (na wala sa 450 ko) and the diff with 2ch stereo is day and night...

I can say hindi ako nagkamali sa pili ko :) so pag-iipunan ko na lang ang CHT-10r para kumpleto na ang HT exp ko, kasi sub ng Klipsch GMX 2.1 lang ang gamit ko ngaun...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: threadlock on Jul 20, 2007 at 04:24 PM: Any owner of Mission M5C here? Alin mas maganda, Mission M5C or Mission 77C?
Mas maganda ba Mission M52 kaysa Mission M73i?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 20, 2007 at 04:49 PM: Oo naman, sa looks pa lang busog ka na sa M52. Sa tunog pa, lalo na 8)

If you have entry level receivers, go for the M73.

If you have top receivers & power amps, go for the M5's. They wont disappoint when they are well powered.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/mhyap/Mden/iMAtZ06.jpg)

My setup last year: M52 bi-amped w/ HK 630 on the HF & Rotel 100w power amp on the LF. To date, I still consider it the most spectacular HT speakers for the money. Beats my current THX HT setup (sa HT lang ;D).

But remember : just like most mid level speakers: must be well powered...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: leomar on Jul 20, 2007 at 05:01 PM: Sir Matz

sufficient ba ung bada 2ch power amp + yammie 659 to power M34i?
sa tingin niyo ba manipis ang tunog?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 20, 2007 at 05:17 PM: Actually M34i has a very high sensitivity (92db), so to be honest, I would prioritize a good warm sounding CDp first (dami dyan mura sa SG!) if you are looking for "thicker" SQ for your Yammy via pure direct audio. Then maybe you can get a power amp after that if its not enough.

I would prioritize it this way cuz whatever happens, a good CDp will still be worth it any w/c way you look at it if you are into audio. Power amps can follow. But having both would bring a huge improvement to your setup!

Used to own a M34 before & the improvement was :o :o when used w/ power amps.

But if you have power amps, FORGET the M34, get the M52! >:D >:D >:D

Cheers! ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: leomar on Jul 20, 2007 at 05:31 PM: waahhhh temptation
pero "fortunately" walang M52 dito sa SG sir Matz, gusto ko nga sana ung M33i para 1 driver lang din kaso wala daw narelease na ganun dito...

pero "kung" sakali, timber matched ba ung M3c2i saka M52 for HT?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 23, 2007 at 11:35 AM: Pareho naman tonal characteristic nila so ok naman siguro yan. I have actually done a few experiments w/ different (brand) center speakers & main speakers, I cant hear the difference :-\. BUT thats me.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sanmig_ph on Jul 23, 2007 at 11:54 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Jul 20, 2007 at 04:49 PM
Oo naman, sa looks pa lang busog ka na sa M52. Sa tunog pa, lalo na 8)

If you have entry level receivers, go for the M73.

If you have top receivers & power amps, go for the M5's. They wont disappoint when they are well powered.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/mhyap/Mden/iMAtZ06.jpg)

My setup last year: M52 bi-amped w/ HK 630 on the HF & Rotel 100w power amp on the LF. To date, I still consider it the most spectacular HT speakers for the money. Beats my current THX HT setup (HT lang, but not audio ;D).

But remember : just like most mid level speakers: must be well powered...

ganda talaga pare ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Jul 25, 2007 at 07:00 PM: ganda talaga yan sir, lalo na pag well powered! panalo

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/Assassin0225/IMG_1235.jpg)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:24 PM: Nakow! Baka di makatulog si Sanmig nyan! ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kimosabe on Jul 26, 2007 at 04:14 PM: (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/Assassin0225/IMG_1235.jpg)

kaya bang i-drive ng HK 130 ito??? parang gusto kong mag Mission speaker in the future if budget permits na :D and bagay ba Mission sa HK???

thanks guys. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sanmig_ph on Jul 26, 2007 at 08:25 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Jul 26, 2007 at 12:24 PM
Nakow! Baka di makatulog si Sanmig nyan! ;D

pare usapan natin ayos na yun eh no need to upgrade , lagyan mo ng devil icon hehehe.
ganda talaga ng mission mo Assassin ;) hay ...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Mr.H on Jul 26, 2007 at 08:34 PM: Guys...ok talaga ang Mission, nka subok din ako ng m52...e na devil ulit...hayun...nadagdagan pa ng m53 hehehe....no regrets! ;)

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u28/hdc1/M53.jpg)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:23 PM: wow hermie, meron ka na naman bagong mission m53. galing naman front m53 tapos surround m52. lupit talaga.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Mr.H on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:49 PM: Quote from: Assassin101 on Jul 26, 2007 at 10:23 PM
wow hermie, meron ka na naman bagong mission m53. galing naman front m53 tapos surround m52. lupit talaga.

Hi Brian! yung m52 sa front ko muna inilagay as center kasama ng Paradigm...hehehe wala na ksi akong makitang m5c dito... yung m53 muna ang ginawa kong surround...mas ok! ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Jul 26, 2007 at 11:47 PM: wow grabe... hehehe! plan ko din sana kunin m53 dati but medyo boomy sya at baka ndi bagay sa space ko kasi maliit lang. anyway congrats on your new m53.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Assassin101 on Jul 26, 2007 at 11:55 PM: hi KimosabE, i recommend if you pare it with a mid level AVR. mm52 is powered by 2 channel power amp connected to my yammy.

Quote from: KimosabE on Jul 26, 2007 at 04:14 PM
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/Assassin0225/IMG_1235.jpg)

kaya bang i-drive ng HK 130 ito??? parang gusto kong mag Mission speaker in the future if budget permits na :D and bagay ba Mission sa HK???

thanks guys. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 27, 2007 at 09:57 AM: Quote from: KimosabE on Jul 26, 2007 at 04:14 PM
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/Assassin0225/IMG_1235.jpg)

kaya bang i-drive ng HK 130 ito??? parang gusto kong mag Mission speaker in the future if budget permits na :D and bagay ba Mission sa HK???

thanks guys. :)

Kaya i drive naman ng entry level receivers ang Mid level speakers like the M5... but it will not sing to its full potential due to lack of power. At the very least, entry level receiver w/ pre outs + power amp is recommended. Pero best pa rin pag mga mid level receivers (better processors) or mid receivers + power amp.

If you notice, mid level speakers usually have lower sensitivity than their entry level counterparts. They need more power to sing well. But when they are well powered, they really sing better & are more refined than their entry level siblings.

Bagay na bagay Missions sa HK & Onkyo IMO.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Mr.H on Jul 27, 2007 at 05:33 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Jul 27, 2007 at 09:57 AM
Bagay na bagay Missions sa HK & Onkyo IMO.

...and to Rotels too! :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sanmig_ph on Jul 28, 2007 at 06:57 AM: Quote from: Mr.H on Jul 26, 2007 at 08:34 PM
Guys...ok talaga ang Mission, nka subok din ako ng m52...e na devil ulit...hayun...nadagdagan pa ng m53 hehehe....no regrets! ;)

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u28/hdc1/M53.jpg)

pare ganda ng mission mo, & 2 model pa m52 & m53. congrats pre.
pag sawa ka na sa m52 kindly p.m me baka pwede swap hehehe.
wala na ba available na center sa mga shops dito?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Mr.H on Jul 28, 2007 at 08:36 AM: Quote from: sanmig_ph on Jul 28, 2007 at 06:57 AM
pare ganda ng mission mo, & 2 model pa m52 & m53. congrats pre.
pag sawa ka na sa m52 kindly p.m me baka pwede swap hehehe.
wala na ba available na center sa mga shops dito?

Thanks Sanmig!
actually yung m52 black ang nakuha ko (here in Taiwan), nag iisa nalang siya sa store...hehehe.
wala nang available na m5 center sabi mismo nung distributor here. sayang nga eh... :(
baka diyan nalang ako maghanap pag naka uwi... :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sanmig_ph on Jul 28, 2007 at 08:18 PM: Quote from: Mr.H on Jul 28, 2007 at 08:36 AM
Thanks Sanmig!
actually yung m52 black ang nakuha ko (here in Taiwan), nag iisa nalang siya sa store...hehehe.
wala nang available na m5 center sabi mismo nung distributor here. sayang nga eh... :(
baka diyan nalang ako maghanap pag naka uwi... :D

ok sa taiwan ka pala ngayon, sana makahanap ka pa dito ng m5 center. thanks pre.
ganda talaga ng mission mo.
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Sep 02, 2007 at 10:29 AM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Jun 22, 2002 at 06:36 PM
hi,

just purchased the M73 (fronts) and the M7C1 center (Gaol, didn't realize that it had some problems but thanks for the heads up) , to go with my Onkyo 494. any tips on how to optimize performance? gaano katagal ang break-in? and what exactly should i do to "break-in" a speaker?

i can't believe its been more than five years since i purchased my speakers. and up to now, i still don't have rear speakers or subs ;D

wow! 5 years na!
Title: Re:Mission speakers
Post by: Mr.H on Sep 03, 2007 at 12:26 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Sep 02, 2007 at 10:29 AM
i can't believe its been more than five years since i purchased my speakers. and up to now, i still don't have rear speakers or subs ;D

wow! 5 years na!

Wow, 5 years na walang upgrade?
naku it's time to get a sub & rears na! hehehe... ;D
peace & goodluck! ;) :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 20, 2007 at 09:16 PM: Bukas kasama na ako sa grupong nag sabi ng Mission Accomplish ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Philjonc on Sep 21, 2007 at 03:36 PM: hi vtec,
so you've decided to get missions instead. well great choice! 8)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Sep 23, 2007 at 12:36 PM: hi all!

so far, i have the ff set-up:

fronts - M73
center - M7C1

what are the compatible rear speakers for this kaya? i'm thinking of finally completing my set up. thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:51 AM: Quote from: Philjonc on Sep 21, 2007 at 03:36 PM
hi vtec,
so you've decided to get missions instead. well great choice! 8)

Thanks! Yup it was delivered last friday. Nag leave pa ako just to make sure nasa house ako during delivery ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:53 AM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Sep 23, 2007 at 12:36 PM
hi all!

so far, i have the ff set-up:

fronts - M73
center - M7C1

what are the compatible rear speakers for this kaya? i'm thinking of finally completing my set up. thanks.

perhaps M7DS ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 24, 2007 at 02:08 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Sep 20, 2007 at 09:16 PM
Bukas kasama na ako sa grupong nag sabi ng Mission Accomplish ;D

uy congrats bro! post pix naman! ;D pa audi naman!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 24, 2007 at 02:21 PM: Quote from: kt on Sep 24, 2007 at 02:08 PM
uy congrats bro! post pix naman! ;D pa audi naman!

no prob sa audi ;) kapareho nung picture sa pinaka taas yung speakers ko, shy type kasi ako hiya ako post set-up ko ;D I am pretty sure malapit ka na din mag upgrade ng speakers mo SARS attack ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 24, 2007 at 02:49 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Sep 24, 2007 at 02:21 PM
no prob sa audi ;) kapareho nung picture sa pinaka taas yung speakers ko, shy type kasi ako hiya ako post set-up ko ;D I am pretty sure malapit ka na din mag upgrade ng speakers mo SARS attack ;)

haha wag kang ganyan bro wag mo ko hawaan ng SARS! nag aantay palang nga ko ng power amp eh! haha
post na pix bro gsto ko makita! hehe
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 24, 2007 at 03:20 PM: Quote from: kt on Sep 24, 2007 at 02:49 PM
haha wag kang ganyan bro wag mo ko hawaan ng SARS! nag aantay palang nga ko ng power amp eh! haha
post na pix bro gsto ko makita! hehe

ganito yung picture ng floorstander (bro kimusabe pahiram ng picture ;))

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/Assassin0225/IMG_1235.jpg)

diko pa naikabit kasi busy last weekend (went to Pamapanga sat and Cavite sun :D)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 24, 2007 at 04:42 PM: vtec ang ganda naman nyan...parang...SARS....kelangan...labanan to....haha
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 24, 2007 at 05:38 PM: bro kt wag mo labanan mas mahirap yan kapag malala na mahirap ng gamutin ;D After makuha natin yung ating Bada Power amps bagay diyan ang bagong speakers bili ka na this month mayron pa available na M52 kay Cyber NOS ;D Dapat bilhin mo this month kasi sa October yung Power Amps, sa November naman mid-level amp at sa December bluray player ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Philjonc on Sep 24, 2007 at 05:42 PM: These M52's are great for HT...hands down. 8)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 24, 2007 at 06:24 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Sep 24, 2007 at 05:38 PM
bro kt wag mo labanan mas mahirap yan kapag malala na mahirap ng gamutin ;D After makuha natin yung ating Bada Power amps bagay diyan ang bagong speakers bili ka na this month mayron pa available na M52 kay Cyber NOS ;D Dapat bilhin mo this month kasi sa October yung Power Amps, sa November naman mid-level amp at sa December bluray player ;)

vtec! how much kay cyber? pa pm naman! naku patay eto na...haha :-X
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 26, 2007 at 11:41 AM: Quote from: kt on Sep 24, 2007 at 06:24 PM
vtec! how much kay cyber? pa pm naman! naku patay eto na...haha :-X

kt 40% off from SRP naka box pa here is the link ;)

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=67458.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=67458.0)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 26, 2007 at 11:55 AM: vtec! ano mas ok sa M52, V62, and 782SE? hehe gsto ko sana yun 2 woofers naman...hehe
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 26, 2007 at 12:21 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Mar 05, 2007 at 05:34 PM
Volare series are laid back. In audio, the image is at the back. Tends to excel more in audio. speakers tend to disappear in the room.

M5 series more frontal, aggressive, image is near. Tends to excel in HT.

Depends na lang w/c presentation you prefer.

just my 2 cents.

M series for HT

V series for music
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Philjonc on Sep 26, 2007 at 12:22 PM: for me m52 forward sounding great for HT, v62 volare laidback sounding (I know someone who might want to sell his v62), 782se being 200w parang wharf 9.6 needs a stronger kicking amp. based on my auditioning.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 26, 2007 at 12:44 PM: sir matz n philjonc tnx sa reply!

would the v series b good for HT as well? since they say whats good in music is also good for HT right? i'll let the sub help nalng for HT purposes din dba? tnx
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 26, 2007 at 12:58 PM: Quote from: kt on Sep 26, 2007 at 11:55 AM
vtec! ano mas ok sa M52, V62, and 782SE? hehe gsto ko sana yun 2 woofers naman...hehe

mayron 2 woofers M53 ;D diko lang alam saan mayron ;) I think in previous pages mayron na discussions about M52 and V62 and ang opinion ng madami is kagaya ng sabi ni Sir Matz at Philjonc better ang M52 for HT.

hopefully this weekend ma kabit ko na speakers ko ;) although dami ko din lakad so probably hindi pa din :( malamang makasabay na sa set-up ang pag install ng Bada amps kasi October na din next week ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: danrd on Sep 26, 2007 at 01:19 PM: Would love to have these someday. Ganda Talaga!! :)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/m53.jpg)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 26, 2007 at 01:37 PM: Quote from: kt on Sep 26, 2007 at 12:44 PM
since they say whats good in music is also good for HT right?

That may be true BUT iba pa rin yung mas excellent sa HT ...for HT use , and likewise for audio. Specialization has its benefits sabi nga ni sir AV.

Quote from: danrd on Sep 26, 2007 at 01:19 PM
Would love to have these someday. Ganda Talaga!! :)

Friendly advice lang Dan, baka maging boomy to sa room mo. :)

M52 ka na lang, perfect pati height nya, it wont obstruct your PJ.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: danrd on Sep 26, 2007 at 01:53 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Sep 26, 2007 at 01:37 PM
Friendly advice lang Dan, baka maging boomy to sa room mo. :)

M52 ka na lang, perfect pati height nya, it wont obstruct your PJ.

Feeling ko lang kasi ang laki ng sound difference ng M53 against M52 coz of the double driver. Am I right or am I right? ;D ;D ;D Halatang M53 talaga gusto eh no.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 26, 2007 at 02:05 PM: One of the most common complaints from reviews I read of the M53 is about the fatiguing bass. Imagine that problem multiplying in a small room. I would assume that having one bass driver would be better to give a tighter bookshelf speaker performance (since the sub handles the LFE anyway).

Wala sa dami ng drivers yan bro. Relation to room size is also just as important. I also wanted the M53 myself before but I was more than satisfied w/ the M52 (w/ power amps) in my small room. Plus it doesnt obstruct my PJ view pa! :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 26, 2007 at 02:52 PM: sir matz tnx for the reply. how does the M52 perform on audio? gsto ko din ng M53 fogi! hehe

so if the V62 naman? bitin sya sa HT since better sya sa audio ganun po ba? pls enlighten me lang. nakaka engganyo kasi kumuha ng bigger speakers after ko makuha yung power amp ni sir matz eh! hehe tnx
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 26, 2007 at 03:23 PM: I was also happy with the M52 in audio, but it was forward in presentation, very detailed w/ instrumentals. But forward sounding can tend to be fatiguing for long listening sessions. But some prefer forwardness. I was ok w/ it at first, till I noticed I was going for audio more. So now I have changed to a separate audio/HT setup w/ more laid back speakers (& hybrid tube) for music.

I auditioned the V's and they were relaxed, sweet sounding & laid back.

IMO, HT is all about slam, and the adrenaline it produces that excites your senses. Now question is: do you want a relaxed, sweet sounding & laid back explosions or action scenes? ;D

So, to me I still believe in a separate setup for audio (Good HT speakers for HT, the good audio speakers for audio).
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 26, 2007 at 03:39 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Sep 26, 2007 at 03:23 PM
I was also happy with the M52 in audio, but it was forward in presentation, very detailed w/ instrumentals. But forward sounding can tend to be fatiguing for long listening sessions. But some prefer forwardness. I was ok w/ it at first, till I noticed I was going for audio more. So now I have changed to a separate audio/HT setup w/ more laid back speakers (& hybrid tube) for music.

I auditioned the V's and they were relaxed, sweet sounding & laid back.

IMO, HT is all about slam, and the adrenaline it produces that excites your senses. Now question is: do you want a relaxed, sweet sounding & laid back explosions or action scenes? ;D

So, to me I still believe in a separate setup for audio (Good HT speakers for HT, the good audio speakers for audio).

hi sir! yup tama ka iba parin pag may single focus ang speakers mo either for HT or audio. pag sa HT naman po di po ba madala naman if ok ang sub? di po ba yung pwdeng pang both HT/audio since i cant afford naman a separate setup? tnx again!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 26, 2007 at 05:44 PM: Quote from: kt on Sep 26, 2007 at 03:39 PM
hi sir! yup tama ka iba parin pag may single focus ang speakers mo either for HT or audio. pag sa HT naman po di po ba madala naman if ok ang sub? di po ba yung pwdeng pang both HT/audio since i cant afford naman a separate setup? tnx again!

Of course naman pwede din sya for audio, personal preference lang naman yung forward or laid back. It doesnt necessarily mean that forward is bad for music.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 26, 2007 at 05:52 PM: sir matz tnx again!

san na po ba may m53? around how much na kaya? tnx
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: leomar on Sep 26, 2007 at 06:15 PM: mukhang may magbebenta ng M34 a hehe
sir dan, black ba ung M34 mo? ilang kilo un? ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: danrd on Sep 27, 2007 at 08:47 PM: Quote from: leomar on Sep 26, 2007 at 06:15 PM
mukhang may magbebenta ng M34 a hehe
sir dan, black ba ung M34 mo? ilang kilo un? ;D

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/missionforsale.jpg)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kane on Sep 27, 2007 at 09:04 PM: Quote from: danrd on Sep 26, 2007 at 01:19 PM
Would love to have these someday. Ganda Talaga!! :)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/m53.jpg)

gwapo naman nito. are these m53's? any idea kung magkano to mga sir? Can my amp power these babies, i'm using rxv-750? ok lang kaya?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Sep 27, 2007 at 09:06 PM: shet ang ganda.... meron ba nagbebenta nyan? pati nung m3c2....
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 28, 2007 at 11:01 AM: Quote from: kane on Sep 27, 2007 at 09:04 PM
gwapo naman nito. are these m53's? any idea kung magkano to mga sir? Can my amp power these babies, i'm using rxv-750? ok lang kaya?

Kaya yan bro, but you might be hearing just 1/3 of its full potential. Iba tunog ng mga M5's pag busog.

Quote from: leomar on Sep 26, 2007 at 06:15 PM
mukhang may magbebenta ng M34 a hehe
sir dan, black ba ung M34 mo? ilang kilo un? ;D

Hahaha! Kayo ha.. :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kane on Sep 28, 2007 at 11:05 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Sep 28, 2007 at 11:01 AM
Kaya yan bro, but you might be hearing just 1/3 of its full potential. Iba tunog ng mga M5's pag busog.

add nalang ng bada power amp sir!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 28, 2007 at 11:32 AM: san po may m53 n how much na sya? tnx
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 28, 2007 at 12:22 PM: Quote from: kane on Sep 28, 2007 at 11:05 AM
add nalang ng bada power amp sir!

Quote from: MAtZTER on Jan 26, 2007 at 10:44 AM
Zhangoku,

Alam ko yun feeling na yan. Ganyan na ganyan din ako nung bago pa ako sa hobby.

I believe you are looking for the midrange. LFE kasi can be handled by the sub, high freq (HF) can be achieved even by low powered HTiB's (madali lang i-power to). The critical midrange is very important in giving you a convincing immersive feel of the movie, specially w/ very demanding action scenes.The midrange eats up a lot of power.

In my experience, you wont get that in a budget receiver. Like, come on, imagine if you are the receiver company's engineer and you are asked to design a receiver w/ a budget way under 10k (may tubo pa sila, bentahan 20k), may tuner, amp, preamp, & power for 7 channels ???

Luckily, your marantz has pre outs, so the simplest advice is to go for power amps. Its cheaper than going for the more powerful 50k-70k receivers that can provide you the midrange slam & umph.

Nagpalit na po ako ng speakers, kasi more on audio na ako. I am now using a dynaudio floorstander. Now kung alam mo kung magkano ang Dynaudio (doble ng M52) .... and masasabi ko lang ngayon eh, mas maganda pa rin performance ng well powered Mission M52 (at more HALF the cost) sa Home theater. Pero sa music, malayo lamang ng Dyn, but its another price class of course.

Kaya pala may Dyn owner akong friend na bilib na bilib sa performance ng Missions ko. But do take note, I really powered the M52's very well (200w bi-amp :o :o), baka bumili kayo ng M52 & use with a budget receiver tapos sabihin nyo pangit... :D

Well, above is my quote from early this year and there are many more quotes before (last year) that are encouraging the use of power amps. I have been a firm believer of power amps even before the Bada power amps were conceptualized. Truth is, it was the absence of affordable power amps that forced the conceptualization of the Bada power amps. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 28, 2007 at 12:37 PM: yup sir matz! kaya nga parng gsto ko din palit ng speakers after makuha yung power amps nyo
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 28, 2007 at 12:49 PM: I would recommend that you enjoy your setup first. Upgrade slowly as compared to upgrading all at once. Each upgrade brings Joy to any A/V enthusiast. Savor that Joy & digest it first before you go for another. This way, you can experience the difference of each.

PS: sino si Joy? ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 28, 2007 at 12:55 PM: sir matz tnx sa advise! hehe pakilala mo naman ako kay JOY! haha :D

well mukang paubos narin yata stocks ng M52. if ever maubos po yun...ano po ba kalevel nya sa new mission line?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: zHangGoku on Sep 30, 2007 at 11:02 AM: Quote from: kt on Sep 28, 2007 at 12:55 PM
sir matz tnx sa advise! hehe pakilala mo naman ako kay JOY! haha :D

well mukang paubos narin yata stocks ng M52. if ever maubos po yun...ano po ba kalevel nya sa new mission line?

kt, palagay ko meron pang stock ng M52 kay sir cybermms. cavite area siya.
maganda yang M52. thanks to MAtZTER and Assassin101. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Sep 30, 2007 at 02:19 PM: Quote from: zHangGoku on Sep 30, 2007 at 11:02 AM
kt, palagay ko meron pang stock ng M52 kay sir cybermms. cavite area siya.
maganda yang M52. thanks to MAtZTER and Assassin101. ;)

zhanggoku tnx for the info! pero parang wala na daw yata mahanap na center na match sa m52...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 01, 2007 at 04:24 PM: hi all!

which of the following is the best option for my rear speakers, based on my current set-up (M73-fronts, M7C1-center)?

a. M70;
b. M7DS; or
c. M30?

Please take into account that I might be upgrading my fronts by next year, pero mission ulit. My only concern is that if I get the M70 or the M7DS, i won't be able to use either with the newer line of missions, like the M34 series or the M5s.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 01, 2007 at 04:29 PM: Quote from: kt on Sep 30, 2007 at 02:19 PM
zhanggoku tnx for the info! pero parang wala na daw yata mahanap na center na match sa m52...

bro kt, bili na. Tested mine last weekend and :o wala pa yung power amps pero laki nang pinagbago from my previous set-up ;D mayron din konti na nandun sa dati set-up na diko nadidinig now pero i think sa amp setting lang ang dahilan nito. Using Marantz kasi did not go well with the Mission so I opened my still in the box 659 and dun mayron ng wow ;D

about the M5c baka mayron pa niyan ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Oct 01, 2007 at 04:35 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Oct 01, 2007 at 04:29 PM
bro kt, bili na. Tested mine last weekend and :o wala pa yung power amps pero laki nang pinagbago from my previous set-up ;D mayron din konti na nandun sa dati set-up na diko nadidinig now pero i think sa amp setting lang ang dahilan nito. Using Marantz kasi did not go well with the Mission so I opened my still in the box 659 and dun mayron ng wow ;D

about the M5c baka mayron pa niyan ;)

bro vtec musta! wow sarap naman nyan! pa audi naman! hehe post pic din para ganahan ako! hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: leomar on Oct 01, 2007 at 04:40 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Oct 01, 2007 at 04:29 PM
bro kt, bili na. Tested mine last weekend and :o wala pa yung power amps pero laki nang pinagbago from my previous set-up ;D mayron din konti na nandun sa dati set-up na diko nadidinig now pero i think sa amp setting lang ang dahilan nito. Using Marantz kasi did not go well with the Mission so I opened my still in the box 659 and dun mayron ng wow ;D

about the M5c baka mayron pa niyan ;)

kaya pala ng 659 ang M52 ;D
nakow, siguro kapag may power amp pa yan gaganda pa ang combi
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 01, 2007 at 05:40 PM: Quote from: leomar on Oct 01, 2007 at 04:40 PM
kaya pala ng 659 ang M52 ;D
nakow, siguro kapag may power amp pa yan gaganda pa ang combi

mas ok as compared to Marantz ;) sa end Oct or early Nov pa yata kasi dating order na Bada amps kaya binuksan ko na din yung 659 to test the Mission M52 + M5c + M7ds ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 01, 2007 at 06:29 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Oct 01, 2007 at 05:40 PM
mas ok as compared to Marantz ;) sa end Oct or early Nov pa yata kasi dating order na Bada amps kaya binuksan ko na din yung 659 to test the Mission M52 + M5c + M7ds ;D
@vtec3,

is the M7ds compatible with the different models (fronts) of Mission?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 01, 2007 at 06:29 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Oct 01, 2007 at 04:24 PM
hi all!

which of the following is the best option for my rear speakers, based on my current set-up (M73-fronts, M7C1-center)?

a. M70;
b. M7DS; or
c. M30?

Please take into account that I might be upgrading my fronts by next year, pero mission ulit. My only concern is that if I get the M70 or the M7DS, i won't be able to use either with the newer line of missions, like the M34 series or the M5s.

Thanks.

up for my query. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: audiojunkie on Oct 01, 2007 at 06:51 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Oct 01, 2007 at 06:29 PM
up for my query. ;D

better to audition them @ home to get the best match to your existing speakers. Just ask for return policy incased not match.... ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 02, 2007 at 11:28 AM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Oct 01, 2007 at 06:29 PM
@vtec3,

is the M7ds compatible with the different models (fronts) of Mission?

i wouldn't be really sure how to answer your question ;) the surrounds for me is not as critical as the Fronts & Center kasi (this is also what i hear from others). I originally wanted a M5DS kaya lang wala pa ako makita. In my few hours of testing without proper calibration, ok din naman and tunog ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: silhouette on Oct 02, 2007 at 03:44 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Oct 01, 2007 at 06:29 PM
up for my query. ;D

pards,

If you can still get an M71 or M71i, the better. Para just in case you decided later on to use it as fronts for other set up, no problem.
I had the same set-up before. Even got an M74, then released it. sayang. Tapos naging M73, M7c1 & M70.
Then I decided to sell the M70, kasi medyo mahina and replaced it with M71i. Now only the M71i is left of my mission babies. They are friends with my wharf floor standers.

good luck!

mon
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 04, 2007 at 11:55 AM: ^noted. will see if i can get my hands on the M71s. else, will look at whatever else is on the market.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 07, 2007 at 02:02 AM: apart from SGT and cyber, would you know of any other dealers still selling mission speakers?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Philjonc on Oct 07, 2007 at 06:27 AM: DCM in Cubao, still selling missions.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 07, 2007 at 08:37 AM: Saan yung DCM in Cubao? Please post yung phone numbers nila? Thanks! Mayron din kaya sila stock ng M5DS? ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 07, 2007 at 10:46 AM: ^uy, does that mean you will let go of your M7DS? ;D

because i have a vested interest ;D, i will tell you that they are located in 16th avenue in cubao. from my inquiry, they have the M30i, the M5s, the volares and the elegantes. i don't know which variants in the series are available though because they are open only M-Sat and I wasn't able to go yesterday.

telephone numbers below:

http://www.dcmaudio.com/index.htm
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 07, 2007 at 08:29 PM: hi all!

what brand of receivers go well with mission speakers? (apart from onkyo, and for mostly HT use)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: audiojunkie on Oct 07, 2007 at 08:32 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Oct 07, 2007 at 08:29 PM
hi all!

what brand of receivers go well with mission speakers? (apart from onkyo, and for mostly HT use)

I guess Yamaha will blend the Combi very well... There's no harm to try them...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: almirage on Oct 07, 2007 at 09:07 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Oct 07, 2007 at 08:29 PM
hi all!

what brand of receivers go well with mission speakers? (apart from onkyo, and for mostly HT use)

i used to have a yamaha+mission combo.super satisfied naman ako ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: danrd on Oct 07, 2007 at 09:25 PM: IMHO - Since Missions are well easy to drive - "any avr would do well". Its just a matter of what type of performance in an avr do you prefer. Mine's an HK avr335 + M34. "SLAM BAMMM performance" ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 08, 2007 at 10:44 AM: watched Jurassic Park 1 & 3 again yesterday to test my Missions M52 + M5c + M7DS powered by Yamaha 659 and all I can say is Wow :o big improvement from my previous set-up ;D the roar of the T-rex is more realistic ;D Paano pa kaya kapag nakabitan ko na ito ng Power Amps (coming soon) ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:04 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Oct 08, 2007 at 10:44 AM
watched Jurassic Park 1 & 3 again yesterday to test my Missions M52 + M5c + M7DS powered by Yamaha 659 and all I can say is Wow :o big improvement from my previous set-up ;D the roar of the T-rex is more realistic ;D Paano pa kaya kapag nakabitan ko na ito ng Power Amps (coming soon) ;D

von! share pix naman dyan! hehe ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:09 PM: Quote from: kt on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:04 PM
von! share pix naman dyan! hehe ;D

ipon muna ako ng lakas ng loob. hiya ako share picture nung set-up ko ;) bili ka na din ng M52 + M5c ganda ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:17 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:09 PM
ipon muna ako ng lakas ng loob. hiya ako share picture nung set-up ko ;) bili ka na din ng M52 + M5c ganda ;D

San pa ba may M5c bro? La na ako mahanap eh
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:24 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:09 PM
ipon muna ako ng lakas ng loob. hiya ako share picture nung set-up ko ;) bili ka na din ng M52 + M5c ganda ;D

naku sa gears palang bro ano pa ikakahiya mo dyan? mas kakahiya pa yung sakin eh! haha :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:33 PM: Quote from: oreoshake on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:17 PM
San pa ba may M5c bro? La na ako mahanap eh

hi just called them this morning and mayron pa sila last piece na daw http://www.dcmaudio.com/index.htm (http://www.dcmaudio.com/index.htm) ganda bagay na bagay yan sa Onkyo 705 ;D plus lagyan pa ng Bada Amps ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:35 PM: Quote from: kt on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:24 PM
naku sa gears palang bro ano pa ikakahiya mo dyan? mas kakahiya pa yung sakin eh! haha :D

dipa masyado naka ayos, kitang kita pa yung mga wires ;D probably after getting the power amps ayusin ko para hindi magulo yung mga wires.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:39 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:35 PM
dipa masyado naka ayos, kitang kita pa yung mga wires ;D probably after getting the power amps ayusin ko para hindi magulo yung mga wires.

post mo na bro para mas makita yung before n after n mas ma appreciate namin yun! hehe ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Oct 08, 2007 at 02:49 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Oct 08, 2007 at 12:35 PM
dipa masyado naka ayos, kitang kita pa yung mga wires ;D probably after getting the power amps ayusin ko para hindi magulo yung mga wires.

Von, ano bagay na surrounds to compliment the M5s?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 08, 2007 at 03:17 PM: Quote from: oreoshake on Oct 08, 2007 at 02:49 PM
Von, ano bagay na surrounds to compliment the M5s?

naku bago pa lang ako sa Mission ;D maybe the more experienced Mission users will be in a better position to answer your query ;) was eyeing to get the M5DS kaya lang nga out of stock na, ended up getting the M7DS pero ok din naman ;) iba yung tunog na binibigay nung M52 during demanding scenes and yung M5c naman detailed yung voice which was missing in my old set-up

surprised din ako sa Yamaha 659 (powering the Missions - temporarily ;D) kasi if it was my old set-up and I touch the AVR at that level of volume sigurado mararamdaman ko yung init ng amps not with the 659 ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: zHangGoku on Oct 19, 2007 at 07:01 PM: paano po ba nalalaman kung match ang mga speakers? say may M52 ako, paano ko po ba malalaman kung match ba cya sa center speaker or surround speakers?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Oct 19, 2007 at 10:33 PM: Quote from: zHangGoku on Oct 19, 2007 at 07:01 PM
paano po ba nalalaman kung match ang mga speakers? say may M52 ako, paano ko po ba malalaman kung match ba cya sa center speaker or surround speakers?

I guess you have to hear it for yourself.. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 20, 2007 at 09:19 AM: lapit na dating Mission ni oreoshake ;D what amp will you temp use with your Mission ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Oct 20, 2007 at 09:32 AM: Quote from: vtec3 on Oct 20, 2007 at 09:19 AM
lapit na dating Mission ni oreoshake ;D what amp will you temp use with your Mission ;)

Teac muna gagamitin kong amp.. i'm sure though it can't drive the missions to its full capability.. November pa dating ng Onkyo 705 kasi.. :( :( :(
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 20, 2007 at 12:11 PM: Quote from: oreoshake on Oct 20, 2007 at 09:32 AM
Teac muna gagamitin kong amp.. i'm sure though it can't drive the missions to its full capability.. November pa dating ng Onkyo 705 kasi.. :( :( :(

ok na din yan, parang break in period. para pagdating nung Onkyo 705 you will enjoy more of the Mission. Lalo na if you play your Bluray together with the 705 (lossless Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD) sigurado wow ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Oct 20, 2007 at 12:46 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Oct 20, 2007 at 12:11 PM
ok na din yan, parang break in period. para pagdating nung Onkyo 705 you will enjoy more of the Mission. Lalo na if you play your Bluray together with the 705 (lossless Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD) sigurado wow ;D

Excited na nga ako makumpleto setup ko. Hopefully by December complete na.. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vapo_chill on Oct 30, 2007 at 09:38 PM: sinong nag compare na m71 against diamond 9.1?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: danrd on Nov 08, 2007 at 08:00 AM: To all my fellow MISSIONARIES. Hope you could help me out where I could find one Rosewood M5c. Pre-owned or brand new. Help would be much appreciated. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: kt on Nov 08, 2007 at 11:01 AM: hi bros! ano po katapat/kalevel sa other brands ng M52/M53? tnx
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: turismo1997 on Dec 04, 2007 at 11:08 PM: me alam pa ba kayo na nagbebenta ng m53 aside from DCM?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Jan 07, 2008 at 04:23 PM: after a week of listening to my recently acquired v62s (bought from john martin) my thoughts are:

they are indeed laid back sounding speakers. not at all aggressive. (which is exactly what I wanted.)

best sounding when used with a tube amo. 13wpc will make it talk but 35-40wpc makes it sing to the heavens.

really didnt not like how it sounded when matched with my sony 835 avr. the m73i performed beautifully with that amp but
the v62's did not. I think I'll be hard pressed to find an AVR that can make the v62 sound just as good as when used with
either my dared or cayin.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jan 11, 2008 at 04:48 PM: Anyone using Mission M3CH CENTER and SURROUND speakers? Any idea whats the best FRONT for these?

http://www.mission.co.uk/system.php?system_id=4&range_id=15&type_id=10&sector_id=4
(http://www.mission.co.uk/images/systems/sets/4/main.jpg)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jan 13, 2008 at 04:00 PM: Quote from: ctlim76 on Jan 07, 2008 at 04:23 PM
after a week of listening to my recently acquired v62s (bought from john martin) my thoughts are:

they are indeed laid back sounding speakers. not at all aggressive. (which is exactly what I wanted.)

best sounding when used with a tube amo. 13wpc will make it talk but 35-40wpc makes it sing to the heavens.

really didnt not like how it sounded when matched with my sony 835 avr. the m73i performed beautifully with that amp but
the v62's did not. I think I'll be hard pressed to find an AVR that can make the v62 sound just as good as when used with
either my dared or cayin.

christian,
the m73i's paired very well with my hkavr2000. just needed a good distance with the walls so it'll give a good throw of the bass. i placed 30kgs of sand on each of the FS thru the port at the back to make it more stable and man did it sound better. thanks again.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Jan 13, 2008 at 07:29 PM: hey jake... ok ah... gagawin ko din yan... la lang oras pa.

the m73i's work well with powerful avr's. and 25w and up tube amps. distance is my problem so I moved the HT to the room. medyo magulo pa lahat.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: danrd on Jan 14, 2008 at 10:34 PM: Quote from: JT on Jan 11, 2008 at 04:48 PM
Anyone using Mission M3CH CENTER and SURROUND speakers? Any idea whats the best FRONT for these?

http://www.mission.co.uk/system.php?system_id=4&range_id=15&type_id=10&sector_id=4
(http://www.mission.co.uk/images/systems/sets/4/main.jpg)

Thanks.

I think VOLARE's would best fit with those based from its specs. Plus the fact that most available units comes with the same color. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Jan 15, 2008 at 12:08 PM: sa mga may volare na v61 and volare centers dyan... labas nyo na... hehehehe :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Jan 15, 2008 at 12:23 PM: Quote from: vapo_chill on Oct 30, 2007 at 09:38 PM
sinong nag compare na m71 against diamond 9.1?

imho, no contest. the m71 will outclass the 9.1; though thats if they use the same source and amps. the 9.1's can be made to sound just as good. (some say even better) but you'd have to find the right equipment to pair it with. too much hard work just for a 5k worth bookshelf.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Jan 15, 2008 at 03:31 PM: Quote from: danrd on Jan 14, 2008 at 10:34 PM
I think VOLARE's would best fit with those based from its specs. Plus the fact that most available units comes with the same color. ;)

Yup, I think Volare will be great with these. Thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Lancito on Jan 31, 2008 at 03:07 PM: Hi guys, where can I buy Mission speakers here in Manila? I'm clueless. Thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Jan 31, 2008 at 03:10 PM: You can try here:

http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/index.htm?sid=55904e47cea5b85c4971f32b5fca9c5c (http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/index.htm?sid=55904e47cea5b85c4971f32b5fca9c5c)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Lancito on Jan 31, 2008 at 03:38 PM: Quote from: oReOsHaKe on Jan 31, 2008 at 03:10 PM
You can try here:

http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/index.htm?sid=55904e47cea5b85c4971f32b5fca9c5c (http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/index.htm?sid=55904e47cea5b85c4971f32b5fca9c5c)

Thanks Oreo. But aren't there stores that carry this brand? I want fresh from a sealed box.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: trackers888 on Jan 31, 2008 at 03:41 PM: Quote from: Lancito on Jan 31, 2008 at 03:38 PM
Thanks Oreo. But aren't there stores that carry this brand? I want fresh from a sealed box.

Sa S & S yata meron ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Lancito on Jan 31, 2008 at 03:58 PM: Quote from: trackers888 on Jan 31, 2008 at 03:41 PM
Sa S & S yata meron ;)

Hi Trackers! Nice to see you here again. Mukhang ito nalang inaatupag natin ah. hehehehe. Ok see you again in other threads. hehe. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: alx on Jan 31, 2008 at 04:26 PM: lancito, try mo un tabi ng sight n sound...

audiovox yata un shop meron clang mission...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Lancito on Jan 31, 2008 at 04:34 PM: Quote from: alx on Jan 31, 2008 at 04:26 PM
lancito, try mo un tabi ng sight n sound...

audiovox yata un shop meron clang mission...

Thanks alx, they only sell Aurum Cantus and other China made speakers. No Mission.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 31, 2008 at 04:52 PM: No more Missions there now. You can try DCM at Cubao, thats the Mission Distributor. But last time I looked, many are out of stock already.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Jan 31, 2008 at 07:11 PM: Si Cyber baka may M52 pa na brand new.. Meron din ako if you're interested, used-like new.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Jan 31, 2008 at 08:05 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Jan 31, 2008 at 04:52 PM
No more Missions there now. You can try DCM at Cubao, thats the Mission Distributor. But last time I looked, many are out of stock already.

kilala ko sino bumili ng last set ng M5's sa S&S pati yung last pair ng M5C sa DCM ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Lancito on Jan 31, 2008 at 10:45 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Jan 31, 2008 at 04:52 PM
No more Missions there now. You can try DCM at Cubao, thats the Mission Distributor. But last time I looked, many are out of stock already.

Tnx Matz! Sige il check out the store. Grabe and dami ko gusto bilhin. B&W speakers and subs, dynaudio subs, Mission speakers, power amps, etc. etc. Wala naman pera. haha. Window shopping feels almost like owning the items. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 01, 2008 at 10:22 AM: Quote from: Lancito on Jan 31, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Tnx Matz! Sige il check out the store. Grabe and dami ko gusto bilhin. B&W speakers and subs, dynaudio subs, Mission speakers, power amps, etc. etc. Wala naman pera. haha. Window shopping feels almost like owning the items. ;D

Dynaudio are not known for their subs. But for speakers, you just have to audition well powered Dynes if you love music & HT... you will be left with ... :o :o :o

They wont work well with receivers alone in my experience, but power amps will make em sing though. Same with B&W speakers IMO.

For HT, missions are great!

Dont rush, enjoy your setup first! :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on Feb 03, 2008 at 08:27 PM: sa dami na speakers out there, Last priority itong mission unless gusto niyo maka bili ng LEMON....and with out after sales warranty support pa yung DCM dito ??? ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: abj104 on Feb 03, 2008 at 09:05 PM: mga bosing,

ano po ba ang effect pag naikabit na wrong polarity ang cable sa speaker side/.I've listen to music for 5 hrs ,na discover ko ng tanggalin ko yung speaker cable sa right side e baligtad pala ang kabit ko.Sa ampli side eh tama yung kabit k0 [red to red] pero sa speaker side naman e baligtad [red to black]

any comments?

thanks!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 04, 2008 at 10:42 AM: Quote from: mattmatt on Feb 03, 2008 at 08:27 PM
sa dami na speakers out there, Last priority itong mission unless gusto niyo maka bili ng LEMON....and with out after sales warranty support pa yung DCM dito ??? ???

Sir, I had 3 Mission models & didnt have problems naman,would you kindly share your bad experience for the benefit of the members? :) Just curious why you call Missions a LEMON.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: threadlock on Feb 04, 2008 at 12:40 PM: Quote from: abj104 on Feb 03, 2008 at 09:05 PM
mga bosing,

ano po ba ang effect pag naikabit na wrong polarity ang cable sa speaker side/.I've listen to music for 5 hrs ,na discover ko ng tanggalin ko yung speaker cable sa right side e baligtad pala ang kabit ko.Sa ampli side eh tama yung kabit k0 [red to red] pero sa speaker side naman e baligtad [red to black]

any comments?

thanks!

I've actually just experienced the "wrong polarity sound" yesterday when I disconnected all my speakers from the AVR for general cleaning. Because my bookshelf's orientation is upside down, I accidentally plugged the speaker wire in wrong polarity(back-to-red and red-to-black) of my left speaker. The result is that the imaging was destroyed. Singer's voice is no longer centered, seems like the voice is pasted on the speaker itself. Instruments location is also hard to pinpoint.

But, I've read from one article that "wrong polarity" setup is used to effectively break-in the speakers while playing pink noise. Haven't tried it myself though. :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Feb 04, 2008 at 05:01 PM: Quote from: mattmatt on Feb 03, 2008 at 08:27 PM
sa dami na speakers out there, Last priority itong mission unless gusto niyo maka bili ng LEMON....and with out after sales warranty support pa yung DCM dito ??? ???

Quote from: MAtZTER on Feb 04, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Sir, I had 3 Mission models & didnt have problems naman,would you kindly share your bad experience for the benefit of the members? :) Just curious why you call Missions a LEMON.

sir mattmatt, same concern here - i've matched my missions with both hk avr 2000 and duntonic du-3i, so far no issues. kung puwede lang isama katabi sa kama e..... am third owner of this mint condition speakers and all i can say is wow! quite curious now that you consider these brand as lemons???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Feb 04, 2008 at 05:16 PM: Quote from: mattmatt on Feb 03, 2008 at 08:27 PM
sa dami na speakers out there, Last priority itong mission unless gusto niyo maka bili ng LEMON....and with out after sales warranty support pa yung DCM dito ??? ???

I'm just curious what you mean by "LEMON"...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Lancito on Feb 04, 2008 at 08:26 PM: Quote from: oReOsHaKe on Feb 04, 2008 at 05:16 PM
I'm just curious what you mean by "LEMON"...

LEMON is a defective item purchased even from a reliable manufacturer.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Feb 04, 2008 at 08:54 PM: Quote from: Lancito on Feb 04, 2008 at 08:26 PM
LEMON is a defective item purchased even from a reliable manufacturer.

I'm asking the one who mentioned LEMON in this thread.. Baka hindi nya alam ang definition ng LEMON.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Feb 04, 2008 at 09:00 PM: bka nasiraan... and DCM has been almost non-existent as of late... diba? or not?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Lancito on Feb 04, 2008 at 10:15 PM: Quote from: oReOsHaKe on Feb 04, 2008 at 08:54 PM
I'm asking the one who mentioned LEMON in this thread.. Baka hindi nya alam ang definition ng LEMON.. ;D ;D ;D

Oops, sorry Oreo...my bad. Didn't read the thread history. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: almirage on Feb 04, 2008 at 10:23 PM: Quote from: mattmatt on Feb 03, 2008 at 08:27 PM
sa dami na speakers out there, Last priority itong mission unless gusto niyo maka bili ng LEMON....and with out after sales warranty support pa yung DCM dito ??? ???

Used to have Mission M73, M7c1 and M7ds for 5 years at hindi naman ako ngka problema...thank God ;)
it seems may bad experience po kayo sa Mission....may i ask kung anong series & model po yun?

thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on Feb 05, 2008 at 09:04 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Feb 04, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Sir, I had 3 Mission models & didnt have problems naman,would you kindly share your bad experience for the benefit of the members? :) Just curious why you call Missions a LEMON.
its more on the 78 series, lahat yung defective, which was ADMITTED BY UK OFFICE NILA. and dito walang paki yung local distributor dati na si DCM
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Lancito on Feb 05, 2008 at 10:51 AM: Sino na ba distributor ng Mission sa Philippines now?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 05, 2008 at 11:34 AM: Still DCM but Mission is undergoing changes in management due to its bring bought by another company and they are shifting their factory to China. So DCM (Melvin) is having difficulty with contacting Mission as they change their manager every month... accdg to him.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Lancito on Feb 05, 2008 at 11:36 AM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Feb 05, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Still DCM but Mission is undergoing changes in management due to its bring bought by another company and they are shifting their factory to China. So DCM (Melvin) is having difficulty with contacting Mission as they change their manager every month... accdg to him.

Noted. Thanks MatZ.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: danrd on Feb 05, 2008 at 12:55 PM: Quote from: mattmatt on Feb 05, 2008 at 09:04 AM
its more on the 78 series, lahat yung defective, which was ADMITTED BY UK OFFICE NILA. and dito walang paki yung local distributor dati na si DCM

Whew. Akala ko sa M3 and M5 series. Cause if it is, I didn't see it.

Quote from: MAtZTER on Feb 05, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Still DCM but Mission is undergoing changes in management due to its bring bought by another company and they are shifting their factory to China. So DCM (Melvin) is having difficulty with contacting Mission as they change their manager every month... accdg to him.

I would most likely upgrade mine when new models come out in the future. ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 05, 2008 at 02:18 PM: Yep, Mission is going China, B&W has gone to China, Tannoy has a factory in China, etc. but their hi end models are still made in their native land.

If you will say "stay away from China made speakers" then your budget ought to be ready for the high end models only. :( Unfortuneately, only a handful in this site can afford them.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 05, 2008 at 07:23 PM: Quote from: danrd on Feb 05, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Whew. Akala ko sa M3 and M5 series. Cause if it is, I didn't see it.

I would most likely upgrade mine when new models come out in the future. ;)

if you decide to sell your M53 pa pila naman ako ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: danrd on Feb 06, 2008 at 06:30 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Feb 05, 2008 at 07:23 PM
if you decide to sell your M53 pa pila naman ako ;)

I'll hold you to it bro. :) Let's find out in the near future. But for now this is kinda hard to let go. Sounds awesome than it looks.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/m53-1.jpg)
Title: Mission Speakers
Post by: gobingo on Mar 05, 2008 at 05:45 PM: Mga bossing!!

GOOD DAY!!! NEWBIE HERE!!

may i know where to buy MISSION SPEAKER ?is there a dealer here in the philippines thanks. and more power!!
Title: Re: Mission Speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 06, 2008 at 10:57 AM: DCM is the distributor of Mission in the Phil. Kaya lang very limited na stocks. Likewise you can PM Cyber he might also have NOS Missions. Or Oreoshake i think mayron siya like brand new M52.

you can try this link http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=4155.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=4155.0) ;)
Title: Re: Mission Speakers
Post by: mattmatt on Mar 09, 2008 at 08:04 AM: DCM very poor after sales service, ??? if your willing to take the risk go ahead and try. Wala din spare parts ??? and daming magaganda dyan other brands.........
Title: Re: Mission Speakers
Post by: dB10 on Mar 09, 2008 at 08:30 AM: Quote from: mattmatt on Mar 09, 2008 at 08:04 AM
DCM very poor after sales service, ??? if your willing to take the risk go ahead and try. Wala din spare parts ??? and daming magaganda dyan other brands.........

sir can you tell us more about this? is this a personal experience?
Title: Re: Mission Speakers
Post by: Philjonc on Mar 09, 2008 at 08:56 AM: ::)
Quote from: mattmatt on Mar 09, 2008 at 08:04 AM
DCM very poor after sales service, ??? if your willing to take the risk go ahead and try. Wala din spare parts ??? and daming magaganda dyan other brands.........

Quote from: dB10 on Mar 09, 2008 at 08:30 AM
sir can you tell us more about this? is this a personal experience?

already been discussed in another thread(s). >:(
Title: Re: Mission Speakers
Post by: gobingo on Mar 09, 2008 at 10:58 AM: sir ,

ok thanks can you please suggest any other brand of speakers? how about B&W and Polk Audio? thanks and more power!!
Title: Re: Mission Speakers
Post by: Philjonc on Mar 09, 2008 at 11:15 AM: Quote from: gobingo on Mar 09, 2008 at 10:58 AM
sir ,

ok thanks can you please suggest any other brand of speakers? how about B&W and Polk Audio? thanks and more power!!

here is a list of AV shops around metro manila, anyway, you could also visit the threads of AV distributors here in pdvd and ask about other brands like psb/aurum cantus/b&w/wharfedale etc..

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=1784.90

or look into preowned stuff at

http://pinoybazaar.forumotion.com/a-v-bazaar-f4/

open and read discussions on speakers/ampifiers and some other stuff to give you more info on this hobby.
Title: Re: Mission Speakers
Post by: dB10 on Mar 09, 2008 at 12:22 PM: oh i havent seen that thread, thanks ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 10, 2008 at 11:28 AM: Try the Q acoustics speakers , they have a somewhat similar characteristic w/ Missions.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: don on Mar 31, 2008 at 03:28 PM: I'm still using my 70i series from SGT hometheater. (m73i,m7c2,m7ds,m7c1(back)) ...
it's over 5 years old... do you guys think I need to upgrade when I finally get an Onkyo? (705 or 606).

Malaki na ba sound difference vs. the latest models? My configuration is all small... my sub is velo cht-12.
thanks in advance :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Mar 31, 2008 at 04:22 PM: bro, to be honest those speakers are still ok even if you upgrade your amp.

but if you want newer models then go ahead ;D

cyber still has a complete set of mission volares... will cost you around 82k. (including back center)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: don on Mar 31, 2008 at 04:59 PM: Quote from: ctlim on Mar 31, 2008 at 04:22 PM
bro, to be honest those speakers are still ok even if you upgrade your amp.

but if you want newer models then go ahead ;D

cyber still has a complete set of mission volares... will cost you around 82k. (including back center)

thanks for the quick reply bro. that's good to hear from a fellow mission speaker user (cguro amp muna and bd player)... i checked your HT in the gallery. You've been upgrading your 70iseries lately ah.. very nice! :) malaki ba difference?

i stopped visiting the ht shops to audition the newer models simula nung makumpleto ko yung setup years ago.. natatakot mapa-upgrade... if i can remember correctly, this is the thread that made be buy mission speakers hehehe.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 31, 2008 at 05:07 PM: Quote from: don on Mar 31, 2008 at 03:28 PM
I'm still using my 70i series from SGT hometheater. (m73i,m7c2,m7ds,m7c1(back)) ...
it's over 5 years old... do you guys think I need to upgrade when I finally get an Onkyo? (705 or 606).

Malaki na ba sound difference vs. the latest models? My configuration is all small... my sub is velo cht-12.
thanks in advance :D

Onkyo 705 w/ pre outs is better recommended. & No, I dont think that upgrading speakers is necessary , maybe unless its 20 yrs old ;D.

Upgrading by getting another same class speaker (entry level for example) is not exactly an upgrade, its a "sidegrade". You just get a different sonic character.

But if you easily have the extra cash, try upgrading to mid level speakers along with the mid level 705. Mid level speakers have better refinement (& higher cost) than their entry level counterparts, but need matching mid level gears for best results. You can also try power amping your setup.

All suggestions above are merely for "wants" but not "needs". So as long as you are happy with your current setup, no need to change it... and avoid listening to newer gears as it may cause sars. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Mar 31, 2008 at 05:15 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Mar 31, 2008 at 05:07 PM
avoid listening to newer gears as it may cause sars. ;D

This is what happened to me.. But then I'm much happier now with my present setup.. Hopefully, I won't get SARS again in the next 5 years.. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Mar 31, 2008 at 05:16 PM: actually my listening preference is more laid back so I upgraded my m73i to a v62... it works fine for me since I have not
been using my ht for awhile as I am stuck listening to my 2ch set-up

will upgrade to a volare center soon as I have to release my m7series so a fellow member (who got my m73i) can complete his set... as for the v61 for the rears... atsaka na. too expensive.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: don on Mar 31, 2008 at 05:31 PM: @Matzer
Thanks bro. I'll just continue to refrain from checking new speakers hehehe. mahirap ng magka-sars ulit.

off topic:
looks like matindi ang occurence ng SARS sa iyo hehehe.. from 705 to 875.. very nice! :) Mukhang malapit muna ako mahawa hehehehe incubation period na ito hehehe . Thanks for the inputs bro... might visit SGT soon... it's been a while... ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 01, 2008 at 06:24 AM: Quote from: ctlim on Mar 31, 2008 at 05:16 PM

will upgrade to a volare center soon as I have to release my m7series so a fellow member (who got my m73i) can complete his set... as for the v61 for the rears... atsaka na. too expensive.

hmmmm.... naaamoy ko na nga ito sir ctlim! malayo pa lang naaamoy ko na!

finally i think i will be able to recomplete this HT set up. salamas ng marami!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 01, 2008 at 10:51 AM: Quote from: don on Mar 31, 2008 at 05:31 PM
@Matzer
Thanks bro. I'll just continue to refrain from checking new speakers hehehe. mahirap ng magka-sars ulit.

off topic:
looks like matindi ang occurence ng SARS sa iyo hehehe.. from 705 to 875.. very nice! :) Mukhang malapit muna ako mahawa hehehehe incubation period na ito hehehe . Thanks for the inputs bro... might visit SGT soon... it's been a while... ;D

thats right, huwag gayahin. SARS is bad! :D

(Para di OT) Like I said, as long as you are happy with your setup, stay with it & avoid SARS. Receiver upgrade (UPgrade not "sidegrade") with better power & decoders IMO is a good path. Speakers can stay with you for a long time.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Apr 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM: Quote from: don on Mar 31, 2008 at 03:28 PM
I'm still using my 70i series from SGT hometheater. (m73i,m7c2,m7ds,m7c1(back)) ...
it's over 5 years old... do you guys think I need to upgrade when I finally get an Onkyo? (705 or 606).

Malaki na ba sound difference vs. the latest models? My configuration is all small... my sub is velo cht-12.
thanks in advance :D

bro.. I do think your M7x series speakers are still fine and can still compete with the present new speakers at the same price point..... I still have mine....all mission setup (6 speakers with velodyne sub) since late 2003..... I am still happy with my speakers......I've tried it with my friends receivers which is different from mine and I am just amazed how the sound it produce changes........ ;) I have a pix of my setup at the HT gallery...although the pictures in there are bit outdated already...some additional gears are changed already but the speakers stays the same....
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Larry_Boy on Apr 13, 2008 at 05:51 PM: 5speed & don,

i'm a proud owner of mission speakers myself. our set-ups are similar (m72i, m7c2, m71i, m7c1i) plus velo cht-12r and i'm not planning to upgrade them.

imho, the weakest link in my set-up is my avr - a marantz sr4300. am planning to buy a mid-level avr in the near future. am quite confident that even if it will challenge the missions, the output will be better. any suggestions?

many thanks for your replies in advance!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Apr 13, 2008 at 10:35 PM: I think mid-level Marantz, Denon, or Onkyo will be no problem with our M72i.....I've heard the M72i hooked up with Onkyo 70x and Denon 280x series and even Cambridge 640R (or is it 540R?? :-\) and it sounds great.....the sound it produces differs with different AVR especially with Cambridge......It sounds fuller with high powered amp..

I've also heard a M71 hooked to a tube amp and sony cdp in one shop in here and it sounds very good to my untrained ear....I almost jumped into the tube bandwagon...... I also heard it with Nad Integrated Amp and Nad Cdp and the sound it produces was very good as well that's why I chose my Nad CDP coz I always remember how it sounded with my Missions.....actually for me it sounded better in a two channel amp dedicated for music rather than with the AVR......maybe it will sound better with Onkyo 8xx, Marantz 800x, or Denon 3xxx series....

I think audition is the key....bring your Missions and hook it up with any AVR you fancy... ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Larry_Boy on Apr 15, 2008 at 09:44 PM: salamat 5Speed!

you're right, i better audition them with the avr models you suggested. medyo di ako updated lately that's why i asked.

fyi, i also have a nad cdp (521bee) connected to the avr for music.

thanks ulit!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Tango on Jun 26, 2008 at 07:42 PM: Hi guys,

Its been like almost 5 years since i last visited this site.........just wanna ask u guys if what can u suggest to replace my rear surround, coz i dropped it when i was moving the stand and it ripped the diagram and the magnet came off from the frame thats holding it......yeah, too bad, its an M7 series, and thinking of getting a new pair to replace it, but i heard that Mission was bought by a chinese distributor, and most of it nowadays ar emade from china.......I was looking of getting a polk audio surrounds and sub as well but maybe you guys have a better suggestions ...........thanks a lot in advance...........Cheers! ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Jun 28, 2008 at 09:14 PM: mission m30i's on sale sa Hi Fi Lounge Festival Mall at 40% off so 6800 nalang. Baka maubusan ka. goodluck! ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 02, 2008 at 02:55 PM: Mission Speakers Now Available at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-la Plaza.

MV-2 at 12 months P6,700.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/main.jpg)

MV-4 at 12 months P7,700.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mv4.jpg)

MV-C at 12 months P6,600.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mvc.jpg)

MV-6 at 12 months P12,300.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mv6.jpg)

MV-8 at 12 months P17,900.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mv8.jpg)

MV-DS at 12 months P9,000.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mvds.jpg)

Partner Mission Speakers with Onkyo TXSR-606 at P33,000.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/606.jpg)

Visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-la Plaza. For further inquiry, call 634-1789 to 90 or mobile 09175413491.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: danrd on Jul 02, 2008 at 03:44 PM: Quote from: E-reply on Jul 02, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Mission Speakers Now Available at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-la Plaza.

MV-2 at 12 months P6,700.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/main.jpg)

MV-4 at 12 months P7,700.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mv4.jpg)

MV-C at 12 months P6,600.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mvc.jpg)

MV-6 at 12 months P12,300.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mv6.jpg)

MV-8 at 12 months P17,900.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mv8.jpg)

MV-DS at 12 months P9,000.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mvds.jpg)

Grabe!! Ang pupogi! :o :o :o
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 02, 2008 at 04:12 PM: Quote from: danrd on Jul 02, 2008 at 03:44 PM
Grabe!! Ang pupogi! :o :o :o

That's right. Maganda na, napakamura pa. Pwedeng panglaban sa Wharfedale Diamond series.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: danrd on Jul 02, 2008 at 04:17 PM: Boss Vic these are China made right? May website ba to? I'll drop by sometime at your place to hear how these perform against my Uk M53's.

Btw, do you have MV-2 with wall brackets?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Arulco on Jul 02, 2008 at 04:48 PM: gaganda! AFAIK, iisa lang may-ari ng wharfedale at mission. International Audio Group from china. Namakyaw sila nga UK speaker manufacturers including Quad. Good products that are very affordable.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 02, 2008 at 05:02 PM: Quote from: danrd on Jul 02, 2008 at 04:17 PM
Boss Vic these are China made right? May website ba to? I'll drop by sometime at your place to hear how these perform against my Uk M53's.

Btw, do you have MV-2 with wall brackets?

Website is: www.mission.co.uk.

MV-DS has hook at the back for wall mount.

The Mission speakers will be available this Friday. Come and visit us for audiotion.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 02, 2008 at 05:06 PM: Quote from: kromestar on Jul 02, 2008 at 04:48 PM
gaganda! AFAIK, iisa lang may-ari ng wharfedale at mission. International Audio Group from china. Namakyaw sila nga UK speaker manufacturers including Quad. Good products that are very affordable.

That's right. Mission belongs to IAG from China. Mission, however, is considered a better, higher-end speakers than Wharfedale.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: danrd on Jul 02, 2008 at 05:22 PM: Quote
Mission, however, is considered a better, higher-end speakers than Wharfedale.

Precisely. I sure hope quality is still the same despite the huge drop in its price. The MV-8 has a very tasty specs.

Thanks for the link Sir Vic. Ngayon ko lang napansin nandun na pala MV series. I'll drop by sometime ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: praktikal on Jul 02, 2008 at 05:29 PM: pwedeng i side by side ang 9.5 with mv8 ah. though mas mura ang 9.5 but i think you'll get what you pay for extra pesoseses, :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Jul 03, 2008 at 12:12 PM: Quote from: E-reply on Jul 02, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Mission Speakers Now Available at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-la Plaza.

MV-C at 12 months P6,600.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mvc.jpg)

Eto ba ang equivalent ng M5c

MV-6 at 12 months P12,300.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mv6.jpg)

Eto ba ang equivalent ng M52

MV-8 at 12 months P17,900.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mv8.jpg)

Eto ba ang equivalent ng M53

how about the sound is it better? Thanks!

prices have gone down significantly more than half of my purchase price for my mission set-up considering got mine at discounted price na din.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jul 03, 2008 at 12:30 PM: Quote from: E-reply on Jul 02, 2008 at 05:02 PM
Website is: www.mission.co.uk.

MV-DS has hook at the back for wall mount.

The Mission speakers will be available this Friday. Come and visit us for audiotion.

sir vic,

hope you can share listening impressions from the set after auditioning compared to the last series that were out.

marami pong salamat!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 03, 2008 at 04:08 PM: Quote from: praktikal on Jul 02, 2008 at 05:29 PM
pwedeng i side by side ang 9.5 with mv8 ah. though mas mura ang 9.5 but i think you'll get what you pay for extra pesoseses, :D

We have them both at showroom. Just come and ask Jun or Paul for audition of both speakers.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 03, 2008 at 04:42 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Jul 03, 2008 at 12:12 PM
how about the sound is it better? Thanks!

prices have gone down significantly more than half of my purchase price for my mission set-up considering got mine at discounted price na din.

Hello Von, that's right. These speakers are used to be the M5 series. Iba talaga ang made in China. Prices become lower.

You are familiar with the M5 series because you own the same series. Perhaps you can listen to MV series, and post your comments here.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 03, 2008 at 04:43 PM: 790 at 12 months P19,500.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/790a.jpg)

792 at 12 months P29,000.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/792.jpg)

794 at 12 months P58,000.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/794.jpg)

796 at 12 months P75,000.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/796.jpg)

79C at 12 months P19,400.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/79c.jpg)

79DS at 12 months P13,400.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/79ds.jpg)

Partner Mission Speakers with Onkyo TXSR-606 at P33,000.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/606.jpg)

Visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-la Plaza. For further inquiry, call 634-1789 to 90 or mobile 09175413491.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jul 03, 2008 at 05:24 PM: ang pogi naman niyang mga yan sir vic! huwaw!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 04, 2008 at 12:09 PM: Quote from: E-reply on Jul 03, 2008 at 04:42 PM
Hello Von, that's right. These speakers are used to be the M5 series. Iba talaga ang made in China. Prices become lower.

You are familiar with the M5 series because you own the same series. Perhaps you can listen to MV series, and post your comments here.

Correction: The MV series look like M5 series, though it's smaller in size.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Jul 04, 2008 at 03:57 PM: naku... i smell upgrades.... ;D

or downgrades.... ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 05, 2008 at 11:05 AM: Quote from: ctlim on Jul 04, 2008 at 03:57 PM
naku... i smell upgrades.... ;D

or downgrades.... ???

What surprising is Mission, a mid-level speakers, is priced comparable to budget speakers. Mission is one of the competent mid-priced speakers in the market today. If you are looking for a well performing speakers without emptying your wallet, you should consider these speakers.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Jul 05, 2008 at 08:01 PM: Is the quality in terms of workmanship and sound the same as the original UK Mission speakers?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: iiinas on Jul 06, 2008 at 06:50 PM: oo nga sir e-reply, kamusta build quality, although they have their quality controol and all, now that it is made in china, is the sound the same as the old mission, kasi these speakers was never on my radar so to speak, but with these prices, it does not seem so far fetching afterall.

btw, are their bookshelf surrounds for the mv series? :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on Jul 06, 2008 at 08:36 PM: i hope mission have corrected their flaws in the 78 series......if not sakit ng ulo sa mga buyers, better make sure no repeat.........i heard also hindi sa Melvin of DCM who is the distributor here ???, that's good news for potential buyers, hopefully after sales service will be better........ ;D.....bigyan mo pa ng one year for feedback para sigurado......
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Jul 06, 2008 at 10:09 PM: i went to shangrila kanina eager to see the new missions: the MV series looks good from the front. (backside mas maganda yung lumang m7 series).

the material used on the woofer is different from the old missions, when I heard it sing, it sounded thinner than my old m73. but of course, it is now at least 30% cheaper than before. (so take that into account)... I think its a good speaker for HT applications.

also, I was told that the higher models than the MV are better sounding. but for those who dreamt of having the old m52... this is your chance!!! ganda ng itsura.

is it true that the owner now of mission is chinese? ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 07, 2008 at 11:37 PM: Quote from: ctlim on Jul 06, 2008 at 10:09 PM
i went to shangrila kanina eager to see the new missions: the MV series looks good from the front. (backside mas maganda yung lumang m7 series).

the material used on the woofer is different from the old missions, when I heard it sing, it sounded thinner than my old m73. but of course, it is now at least 30% cheaper than before. (so take that into account)... I think its a good speaker for HT applications.

also, I was told that the higher models than the MV are better sounding. but for those who dreamt of having the old m52... this is your chance!!! ganda ng itsura.

is it true that the owner now of mission is chinese? ;D

Good observations. I need more enthusiasts like you to listen and evaluate the Mission products. Keep sending your friendsto come for audition, and post your feedbacks here. I invite vtec, iiinaslao, mattmatt, and other enthusiasts to listen to Mission speakers. Your evaluation shall be a great help to pinoyDVD members who are scouting for great value for money speakers.

Mission is now with the IAG group of HongKong.

For audition, please visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 09, 2008 at 10:29 AM: Mission Award Winning Floorstanding Speaker

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/m33.jpg)Mission M33i

"A lot of speaker, and a lot of sound, for very sensible money"--WhatHifi? 5 stars award

Mission M33i 12 months P15,700. Call for cash price discount

Visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-la Plaza. For further inquiry, call 634-1789 to 90 or mobile 09175413491
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Jul 09, 2008 at 05:02 PM: WOW!!!!!! nice!!!!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Jul 10, 2008 at 11:14 AM: ganda nga, reasonable price too ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: praktikal on Jul 10, 2008 at 11:59 AM: eto gusto kong i-audition, wala lang akong oras pa. :(

M34i (92dB) & MV-8 (91dB)
sana match sa yammy 2095 ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 10, 2008 at 01:01 PM: Quote from: praktikal on Jul 10, 2008 at 11:59 AM
eto gusto kong i-audition, wala lang akong oras pa. :(

M34i (92dB) & MV-8 (91dB)
sana match sa yammy 2095 ;)

You are very much welcome to audition. Hopefully you may post your reviews at this thread.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: silhouette on Jul 10, 2008 at 09:22 PM: Ganda nga. I hope i could find space for another set up.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Jul 10, 2008 at 09:28 PM: Quote from: praktikal on Jul 10, 2008 at 11:59 AM
eto gusto kong i-audition, wala lang akong oras pa. :(

M34i (92dB) & MV-8 (91dB)
sana match sa yammy 2095 ;)

no need to audition yan. im sure your amp will pair great with the missions.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: busabos on Jul 14, 2008 at 05:55 PM: Which amp is better paired with Mission M73 setup? the setup is going to be used purely on ht. Im thinking of getting either Onkyo 606 or Denon 1908.

TIA
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jul 14, 2008 at 06:29 PM: Quote from: busabos on Jul 14, 2008 at 05:55 PM
Which amp is better paired with Mission M73 setup? the setup is going to be used purely on ht. Im thinking of getting either Onkyo 606 or Denon 1908.

TIA

i currently use the M73i with an Onkyo 805 bro. they've been rocking my HT world since the amp came. IMHO they match very well.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: busabos on Jul 15, 2008 at 07:02 AM: Quote from: Jazzy Jake on Jul 14, 2008 at 06:29 PM
i currently use the M73i with an Onkyo 805 bro. they've been rocking my HT world since the amp came. IMHO they match very well.

Medyo mahal yan 805 bro, ok na kaya ako sa 606? gamitin ko lang sya pang kwarto
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: macdon on Jul 15, 2008 at 02:28 PM: Quote from: mattmatt on Jul 06, 2008 at 08:36 PM
i hope mission have corrected their flaws in the 78 series......if not sakit ng ulo sa mga buyers, better make sure no repeat.........i heard also hindi sa Melvin of DCM who is the distributor here ???, that's good news for potential buyers, hopefully after sales service will be better........ ;D.....bigyan mo pa ng one year for feedback para sigurado......

The new Mission speakers are now distributed by Apolinario & Associates who also distributes Rotel, Rega, Kef & Velodyne. Dealers are Hifi Lounge in Alabang, SGT in Makati and Sights & Sounds in Shangrila.

Heard also that Melvin Chua of DCM will once again become a dealer.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Jul 22, 2008 at 12:01 AM: i have the ff. set-up: m73 (fronts), m7c1(center), m30i(rears).

shortly after i got the m7c1, i was told that it would have been better to get the m7c2.

i never found any m7c2 for sale. can i just upgrade my center speakers by buying one of the new models reported by E-Reply a few posts earlier? or will it produce the same soudn? or do i have to concern myself with pairing my speakers properly? kunyari, is it safe to assume that the M7-C will sound almost the same as my M7C1 so its not worth the upgrade?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jul 22, 2008 at 12:22 AM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Jul 22, 2008 at 12:01 AM
i have the ff. set-up: m73 (fronts), m7c1(center), m30i(rears).

shortly after i got the m7c1, i was told that it would have been better to get the m7c2.

i never found any m7c2 for sale. can i just upgrade my center speakers by buying one of the new models reported by E-Reply a few posts earlier? or will it produce the same soudn? or do i have to concern myself with pairing my speakers properly? kunyari, is it safe to assume that the M7-C will sound almost the same as my M7C1 so its not worth the upgrade?

just curious mam, what amp do you use for your set?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Jul 22, 2008 at 03:22 PM: Quote from: Jazzy Jake on Jul 22, 2008 at 12:22 AM
just curious mam, what amp do you use for your set?

Onkyo 494 :) circa 2004 pa kasi ang set-up ko, except for the M30 which i got only last year.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Jul 22, 2008 at 03:49 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Jul 22, 2008 at 12:01 AM
i have the ff. set-up: m73 (fronts), m7c1(center), m30i(rears).

shortly after i got the m7c1, i was told that it would have been better to get the m7c2.

i never found any m7c2 for sale. can i just upgrade my center speakers by buying one of the new models reported by E-Reply a few posts earlier? or will it produce the same soudn? or do i have to concern myself with pairing my speakers properly? kunyari, is it safe to assume that the M7-C will sound almost the same as my M7C1 so its not worth the upgrade?

I agree its better to upgrade from m7c to m7c2 center speaker, physically the volume of enclosure of m7c2 are a lot more bigger.

Since m7c2 are no longer available in the market, you may wish to consider Mission M3C2i center speaker, with freq response of 75hz to 20khz. Its sensitivity of 91db is also more easily to drive as compare with m7c2. With less power to drive the speaker system, you'll be dealing with less distortion on the sound reproduce.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jul 22, 2008 at 04:38 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Jul 22, 2008 at 03:22 PM
Onkyo 494 :) circa 2004 pa kasi ang set-up ko, except for the M30 which i got only last year.

Quote from: E-reply on Jul 22, 2008 at 03:49 PM
I agree its better to upgrade from m7c to m7c2 center speaker, physically the volume of enclosure of m7c2 are a lot more bigger.

Since m7c2 are no longer available in the market, you may wish to consider Mission M3C2i center speaker, with freq response of 75hz to 20khz. Its sensitivity of 91db is also more easily to drive as compare with m7c2. With less power to drive the speaker system, you'll be dealing with less distortion on the sound reproduce.

mam tonedeaf,

IMHO, would agree with sir E-reply to source for an alternative higher sensitivity center speakers if the chosen path is just speaker upgrade. am not sure though if the M7C2 can give you better sound as it is 89db compared to the available M3C2i which is 91db.

the other option you can take is via amp - the amp you use is 55wpc, the MC1i is only 87db which requires a more powerful amp to drive. i also use an M7C1i and was ready to part with it but after changing to the onkyo 805 (130wpc), i had a change of heart. never expected the center channel to sound better.

in any case good luck with the search...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: macdon on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:45 PM: Heard M66i (?) earlier today in SGT - not bad, pwede na ;D Mas nagulat ako nung nalaman ko ang price ;D

Mukang these new Missions will definitely make Wharfedales run for its money :D ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: iiinas on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:00 AM: Quote from: macdon on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Heard M66i (?) earlier today in SGT - not bad, pwede na ;D Mas nagulat ako nung nalaman ko ang price ;D

Mukang these new Missions will definitely make Wharfedales run for its money :D ;D

pa pm naman ng price sir mac. tia! ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: lakambini on Jul 24, 2008 at 10:58 AM: Quote from: macdon on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Heard M66i (?) earlier today in SGT - not bad, pwede na ;D Mas nagulat ako nung nalaman ko ang price ;D

Mukang these new Missions will definitely make Wharfedales run for its money :D ;D

sir,

pa-pm po ng prices for th mission's bookshelf-type speakers, tia
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: macdon on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:10 PM: Quote from: macdon on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Heard M66i (?) earlier today in SGT - not bad, pwede na ;D Mas nagulat ako nung nalaman ko ang price ;D

Mukang these new Missions will definitely make Wharfedales run for its money :D ;D

Ooppss.........made an error. It was the M34i pala yung pina audi sa akin sa SGT & not the M66i like I posted yesterday. Sorry sorry.........dami kasi models ng Mission eh.......na confuse tuloy ako :P
But kung pwede na M34i - I bet mas maganda pa tunog ng M66i ;D

For discount pricing - paki tawagan nalang po SGT - 8138443/8125235
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: praktikal on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:14 PM: what you mean pwede na? medyo bitin ba? paired with what amp & player? am considering this model kase for my yamaha. gusto ko rin malaman kung ok sa tube ito. tnx
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: macdon on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:25 PM: Quote from: praktikal on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:14 PM
what you mean pwede na? medyo bitin ba? paired with what amp & player? am considering this model kase for my yamaha. gusto ko rin malaman kung ok sa tube ito. tnx

The M34i had detail, a tad warm sounding & a best value in its price range.
We only auditioned it for audio - connected to a Bada "hybrid" amp & a Rega cdp.

While all these are subjective - both Butch Tuazon & I concluded that these are great value for the money ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: praktikal on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:09 PM: thanks.

syempre better than 9.5, right? anong brand/model ang kasimilar nya?

have you seen the cheaper mv8?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: macdon on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:42 PM: Quote from: praktikal on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:09 PM
thanks.

syempre better than 9.5, right? anong brand/model ang kasimilar nya?

have you seen the cheaper mv8?

Better than Wharfedales? Hmmm.....thats really subjective as Wharfedales are the most popular speakers around. So its best to really audition them yourself. Ill tell you this thou - if somebody came up to me & asks if he'll buy Wharfedales - I'll tell him to audi the new Missions first before he makes a decision ;)

Yup - saw the MV series floorstanders in SGT - guwapo in rosewood! Pogi points is 10/10! Sayang as we never got to audition it yesterday - nahihiya na kasi ako kina Butch eh - puro FS kasi inaudi ko kaya puro lipat at buhat ginawa nila kahapon :P

But I'd probably go up the ladder in the Mission line - maybe 2nd or 3rd line from the entry level. Unless you're budget is really tight.

The new Missions are really good for the money & I'd recommend them to anybody ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: praktikal on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:51 PM: Quote from: macdon on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:42 PM
Better than Wharfedales? Hmmm.....thats really subjective as Wharfedales are the most popular speakers around. So its best to really audition them yourself. Ill tell you this thou - if somebody came up to me & asks if he'll buy Wharfedales - I'll tell him to audi the new Missions first before he makes a decision ;)

Yup - saw the MV series floorstanders in SGT - guwapo in rosewood! Pogi points is 10/10! Sayang as we never got to audition it yesterday - nahihiya na kasi ako kina Butch eh - puro FS kasi inaudi ko kaya puro lipat at buhat ginawa nila kahapon :P

But I'd probably go up the ladder in the Mission line - maybe 2nd or 3rd line from the entry level. Unless you're budget is really tight.

The new Missions are really good for the money & I'd recommend them to anybody ;D

play safe ha, hehehe.

am aiming for mv8 or m34i for now based on its specs. sna audi ko din soon.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: macdon on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:12 PM: Quote from: praktikal on Jul 24, 2008 at 01:51 PM
play safe ha, hehehe.

am aiming for mv8 or m34i for now based on its specs. sna audi ko din soon.

hehehehe - Mission thread eto eh :D ;D
But seriously - I take Wharfedales for what they are - they really brought a lot of newbies dito sa hobby natin ;)
I also first started with Wharfedales ;D

Ang dami talagang lines ang Mission - it will take you more than a day just to audition their products. I also dont think that our AV dealers can actually stock all their lines for us to audition them all - sayang, but definitely understandable.

I suggest that you match your budget to the specific Mission speaker your buying & ask your neighborhood AV dealer if they have it or could get it for you.
I believe there is a Mission speaker for every budget ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: blued888 on Jul 25, 2008 at 01:30 AM: Ano ang matching center for M3i series? M3C2i nakita ko pero dual 4" lang ang drivers nito, tama ba nakita kong specifications? May Mission centre speaker ba for M3i series with either 5.25" or 6.5" drivers? MV-C for MV series, dual 4" rin? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: cybermms on Aug 08, 2008 at 05:25 AM: The new Missions will be at the 08 Alabang Audio Fair, Aug 8-10.

cyber
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: iiinas on Aug 08, 2008 at 05:15 PM: Quote from: macdon on Jul 24, 2008 at 02:12 PM
hehehehe - Mission thread eto eh :D ;D
But seriously - I take Wharfedales for what they are - they really brought a lot of newbies dito sa hobby natin ;)
I also first started with Wharfedales ;D

Ang dami talagang lines ang Mission - it will take you more than a day just to audition their products. I also dont think that our AV dealers can actually stock all their lines for us to audition them all - sayang, but definitely understandable.

I suggest that you match your budget to the specific Mission speaker your buying & ask your neighborhood AV dealer if they have it or could get it for you.
I believe there is a Mission speaker for every budget ;D

seen these mv missions in hifi lounge in alabang, and i must say, i like the look and sound, since whafedale ako ngayon, the budget of the new mvs are just right for me. if ever im ready for a speaker upgrade, i will seriously look at this set (syempre, better yung mga uk made missions, pero no money... )
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: frootloops on Aug 11, 2008 at 08:38 PM: Finally got the chance to audition this new Missions today at SS. Well what can I say?? Move over Wharfdale, co'z the NEW BANG FOR YOUR BUCK speakers are here! :P

I normally start with the entry levels when auditioning...if Im happy with it, then it makes my review easier. I auditioned the MV-4, if you have a room of....lets say 6x4 dimension, the MV4 will definitely make you happy. Clean and crisp sounding BS. And for it's price? animal ito! pwedeng pwede!

For the MV-C, I find it a bit "manipis", I guess after a few hours of burn in, this will get better. Is it maybe because it has no port?

Forget about it being made in China, what matters is it's performance / price. Sooner or later majority of those speakers we see will all be made in China. If I have the money to burn now, I will definitely get this with a drop of a hat. ;)

Oh btw, thanks to Jun of SS who patiently accomodated me today.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: barrister on Aug 11, 2008 at 09:26 PM: Quote from: frootloops on Aug 11, 2008 at 08:38 PM
Move over Wharfdale, co'z the NEW BANG FOR YOUR BUCK speakers are here! :P

It's about time! The new owner of Mission is the Chinese company IAG (International Audio Group). IAG should provide financial and manufacturing muscle to those old brands they purchased. At any rate, if IAG didn't take over, those brands would probably be dead by now due to bankruptcy.

http://www.iaguk.co.uk/

Mission seems to be selling better than ever in the hands of IAG. I'm expecting them to sell as well as the Wharfes in the coming years.

Quote from: frootloops on Aug 11, 2008 at 08:38 PM
Forget about it being made in China, what matters is it's performance / price. Sooner or later majority of those speakers we see will all be made in China.

I'm not worried. IAG has a huge factory in Shenzen, but its R&D is with IAG UK, based in Huntingdon, Cambs., England. And the R&D is not one group for all brands; they have a specific R&D team for each brand.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 12, 2008 at 11:07 AM: Quote from: frootloops on Aug 11, 2008 at 08:38 PM

For the MV-C, I find it a bit "manipis", I guess after a few hours of burn in, this will get better. Is it maybe because it has no port?

The MV-C has a freq response limited to only 85 hz. So you will need to set your receiver crossover to 90-100hz. I think it must be the smaller cabinet size.

The UK made Mission M5 series used to grace my HT room and it never fails to take my visitor's breath away with its striking design. Now they remade it into their most affordable model and many can now have this similar beautiful design in their HT's at less cost. This will surely give the wharfes a run for their money.

Kudos to mission and hats off to China for making our once expensive hobby more affordable.

Quote from: frootloops on Aug 11, 2008 at 08:38 PM
Forget about it being made in China, what matters is it's performance / price. Sooner or later majority of those speakers we see will all be made in China.

Yep, I recall when Racksrus tried to belittle "China made" HiFi but forgot that the B&W's connected to it were made in China too. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Aug 12, 2008 at 02:17 PM: We are inviting everyone to audition the Mission on display at Sights and Sounds.

Mission MV series' design standards have reached to new height--a remarkable performance blends with appealing looks that raise the bar for entry-level speakers.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 13, 2008 at 01:39 PM: ako happy din ako sa Mission ko ;) kaya guys/gals what are you waiting for ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: frootloops on Aug 13, 2008 at 02:02 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Aug 13, 2008 at 01:39 PM
ako happy din ako sa Mission ko ;) kaya guys/gals what are you waiting for ;D

Did you get the new Mission's?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 13, 2008 at 02:45 PM: i have the same M5's kagaya nung kay Matz dati. but from what i hear pareho lang ito with the new models except that made in UK yung dati and China yung bago plus kaunting difference daw sa build quality.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Aug 13, 2008 at 07:37 PM: Quote from: Jazzy Jake on Jul 22, 2008 at 04:38 PM
mam tonedeaf,

IMHO, would agree with sir E-reply to source for an alternative higher sensitivity center speakers if the chosen path is just speaker upgrade. am not sure though if the M7C2 can give you better sound as it is 89db compared to the available M3C2i which is 91db.

the other option you can take is via amp - the amp you use is 55wpc, the MC1i is only 87db which requires a more powerful amp to drive. i also use an M7C1i and was ready to part with it but after changing to the onkyo 805 (130wpc), i had a change of heart. never expected the center channel to sound better.

in any case good luck with the search...

@Jazzy Jake and E-Reply,

Just saw your response to my post. Thanks! I'm actually going to get a new amp by next year (subwoofer kasi ang upgrade ko this year). Although my problem is, di yata Onkyo 805 levels ang kaya ko. slightly above entry level lang siguro. hehehe.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 14, 2008 at 09:36 AM: Still have my M7x's series of Mission..... and very happy with it.....

Look at my HT setup on the HT gallery.... my next upgrade will be the receiver but not the Missions.... ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 14, 2008 at 02:51 PM: Quote from: 5Speed on Aug 14, 2008 at 09:36 AM
Still have my M7x's series of Mission..... and very happy with it.....

Look at my HT setup on the HT gallery.... my next upgrade will be the receiver but not the Missions.... ;)

I have upgraded from Missions but I still miss their sound. I plan to get some entry levels for my future bedroom setup.

Quote from: vtec3 on Aug 13, 2008 at 02:45 PM
i have the same M5's kagaya nung kay Matz dati. but from what i hear pareho lang ito with the new models except that made in UK yung dati and China yung bago plus kaunting difference daw sa build quality.

Yes. But the M5's were way heavier and were biwirable. The wood finish and lacquer of the M5's were better but not too far from the MV's finish. The sound... No comment yet cuz it was new out of the box when I auditioned the MV's.

Overall, these are truly wonderful value for money speakers with matching good looks (an important criteria for me). In my experience w/ several Mission models, they sound even more awesome with power amps, whatever the sensitivity.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 14, 2008 at 04:29 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Aug 14, 2008 at 02:51 PM
I have upgraded from Missions but I still miss their sound. I plan to get some entry levels for my future bedroom setup.

If I were to upgrade my speakers, probably I will be upgrading to the same speakers you have right now ;) a Dynes or a Dali.....(I've been into the 2008 HKAV show last week and that Dali Helicon series just blew me away....so many good sounding speakers on the show but I cannot afford most of the ones that I like...)

There are Mission Speakers on the show but on the day that I went in there, those missions are not in the booth for listening..... :(
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 14, 2008 at 05:36 PM: Quote from: 5Speed on Aug 14, 2008 at 04:29 PM
If I were to upgrade my speakers, probably I will be upgrading to the same speakers you have right now ;) a Dynes or a Dali.....(I've been into the 2008 HKAV show last week and that Dali Helicon series just blew me away....so many good sounding speakers on the show but I cannot afford most of the ones that I like...)

There are Mission Speakers on the show but on the day that I went in there, those missions are not in the booth for listening..... :(

Dynes & Dali's are great speakers, yes a bit pricey and need quality amps to drive but they are really worth it.

Since this is the Mission thread, the high end 78 and 79 series are the equivalent of the Dynes & Dali's. According to the people I met who own them (78 series), they also need good amps to drive them well, despite their stated sensitivity.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 14, 2008 at 05:47 PM: Quote from: MAtZTER on Aug 14, 2008 at 05:36 PM
Dynes & Dali's are great speakers, yes a bit pricey and need quality amps to drive but they are really worth it.

Since this is the Mission thread, the high end 78 and 79 series are the equivalent of the Dynes & Dali's. According to the people I met who own them (78 series), they also need good amps to drive them well, despite their stated sensitivity.

yes.... I do agree....I've heard the old 780Se long time ago and it was very nice......may need a subwoofer though if you're a bass head ;D.... It was out of my budget at that time though......

I might consider buying this speaker if I will stumble on a good unit though.... 8)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: leomar on Aug 14, 2008 at 05:48 PM: magkalevel ba ang dyne and digms? just for SQ comparison purposes ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 14, 2008 at 06:28 PM: Quote from: leomar on Aug 14, 2008 at 05:48 PM
magkalevel ba ang dyne and digms? just for SQ comparison purposes ;D

Which models? Digm & digns have many models. But I honestly dont know the answer. ;D :D

Quote from: 5Speed on Aug 14, 2008 at 05:47 PM
yes.... I do agree....I've heard the old 780Se long time ago and it was very nice......may need a subwoofer though if you're a bass head ;D.... It was out of my budget at that time though......

Yes, thats why I have to ammend my previous raves many moons ago about when I upgraded from Mission M5's to Dynes. It wasnt an apples to apples comparison since they are of a different class.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: macdon on Aug 15, 2008 at 12:23 AM: Next time I'll be in the neighborhood - I'll try those 79 series naman ;D

So, are the new Missions slowly becoming "wharfedale killers"? :D ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: dyerds on Aug 15, 2008 at 07:57 AM: Quote from: macdon on Aug 15, 2008 at 12:23 AM
So, are the new Missions slowly becoming "wharfedale killers"? :D ;D

I'm planning to switch to Mission too. ;D It's just hard for me to let go of my first babies. :'(
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: lakambini on Aug 28, 2008 at 02:39 PM: mga sir,

which among the two is the higher model of mission m series? m5x or m6x?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Aug 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM: Quote from: lakambini on Aug 28, 2008 at 02:39 PM
mga sir,

which among the two is the higher model of mission m series? m5x or m6x?

At present, there are 3 M-series: MV, M3x, and M6x. There is no more M5x series.

During those days, M5x series is considered the top of M series.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: santwip on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:23 PM: Quote from: E-reply on Jul 02, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Mission Speakers Now Available at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-la Plaza.

MV-4 at 12 months P7,700.
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/mv4.jpg)

sir,

available pa ba ito? I have an old yamaha rxv 440, di kaya mahirapang i-drive ng amp ko ito? tama ba 88db ang mv-4?

thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Cjtjader on Sep 13, 2008 at 01:35 PM: Quote from: E-reply on Aug 12, 2008 at 02:17 PM
We are inviting everyone to audition the Mission on display at Sights and Sounds.

Mission MV series' design standards have reached to new height--a remarkable performance blends with appealing looks that raise the bar for entry-level speakers.

I agreed with guru! I hav mv-4 rightnow and it sound good, detailed just be careful lang sa positioning, if it's too close to walls, booomy. other than that. happy ako sa MV-4! Btw, i had my wharfedale replace by a Mission:) :D so bka nga wharfedale killer na ang mission
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Sep 13, 2008 at 04:59 PM: Quote from: santwip on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:23 PM
sir,

available pa ba ito? I have an old yamaha rxv 440, di kaya mahirapang i-drive ng amp ko ito? tama ba 88db ang mv-4?

thanks in advance.

Available po at Sights and Sounds.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: santwip on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:24 PM: Quote from: cjtjader on Sep 13, 2008 at 01:35 PM

I agreed with guru! I hav mv-4 rightnow and it sound good, detailed just be careful lang sa positioning, if it's too close to walls, booomy. other than that. happy ako sa MV-4! Btw, i had my wharfedale replace by a Mission:) :D so bka nga wharfedale killer na ang mission

bro,

interested din ako sa mv4. san mo nakuha and how much? ano avr mo? other comments/feedbacks?

thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:46 PM: mga bro ok bang i-match ang MV-6 sa harman kardon avr?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Cjtjader on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:17 PM: Quote from: santwip on Sep 13, 2008 at 09:24 PM
bro,

interested din ako sa mv4. san mo nakuha and how much? ano avr mo? other comments/feedbacks?

thanks.
[/quote

Bro, i got it sa whathifi, 7.7k. Actually, i bought it for my 10 yr old son. An old fisher amp is driving the mission. Ok ang mission, enjoy kmi ng anak ko makinig! ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Cjtjader on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:42 PM: mike,

i havn't tried mv6 with HK avr or with any avr's. As for my son's 25 yr old Fisher amp, mv4 sound great, i presume the mission floorstander will keep up to your expectations as it (mission) met mine!:)

Cjtjader
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mikevg08 on Sep 13, 2008 at 11:37 PM: Quote from: cjtjader on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:42 PM
mike,

i havn't tried mv6 with HK avr or with any avr's. As for my son's 25 yr old Fisher amp, mv4 sound great, i presume the mission floorstander will keep up to your expectations as it (mission) met mine!:)

Cjtjader

thanks for your reply Cjtjader and enjoy your mv4 setup ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:33 PM: Mission MV-4 at 12 months P7700. is also available at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: santwip on Sep 18, 2008 at 04:59 PM: sir, pa pm naman ng cash price. thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Sep 18, 2008 at 05:22 PM: Quote from: santwip on Sep 18, 2008 at 04:59 PM
sir, pa pm naman ng cash price. thanks

Cash at P6930.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 19, 2008 at 08:53 AM: my review ba sa m34i? ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: catgreg2k2 on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:45 PM: @E-Reply
Sir can you please PM me price for M35i. Thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Sep 27, 2008 at 12:51 PM: Quote from: catgreg2k2 on Sep 21, 2008 at 09:45 PM
@E-Reply
Sir can you please PM me price for M35i. Thanks.

M35i at P28200. 12 months

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/M35i.jpg)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: BigBert-2 on Sep 27, 2008 at 09:50 PM: Quote from: E-reply on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Mission MV-4 at 12 months P7700. is also available at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza.

Has anyone tried this on tube amp ? ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:05 AM: Quote from: BigBert-2 on Sep 27, 2008 at 09:50 PM
Has anyone tried this on tube amp ? ;D

For tube amplifier, we prefer speaker that can handle a bit more energy and drive. We suggest you try Klipsch RB10 which is selling at 12 months P11300. This speaker has sensitivity of 90db over Mission MV-4 which has 88db.

Klipsch RB10 communicates music message with superb detail and insight, ample harmonic richness and sweetness of treble.

Although remarkable value for money, Mission MV series speakers are made for challenging demands of the modern range of AV, DVD but less demanding music formats.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: catgreg2k2 on Sep 28, 2008 at 08:38 PM: Quote from: E-reply on Sep 27, 2008 at 12:51 PM
M35i at P28200. 12 months

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/M35i.jpg)

Thank you sir.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: santwip on Sep 29, 2008 at 09:45 AM: Quote from: E-reply on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:05 AM

Although remarkable value for money, Mission MV series speakers are made for challenging demands of the modern range of AV, DVD but less demanding music formats.

sir, for clarification lang. u mean mas ok ang mission talaga sa ht and not sa music? thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Sep 29, 2008 at 01:49 PM: Quote from: santwip on Sep 29, 2008 at 09:45 AM
sir, for clarification lang. u mean mas ok ang mission talaga sa ht and not sa music? thanks in advance.

The Mission MV series are made for mass market audience who simply wants good sounds for both music and movie.

The Mission also has the high-end 79 series speakers, which are created for those who prefer peak-performance of stereo music. However, the bookshelf 790 is quite expensive, if you are to compare this with MV4.

That's why we recommend Klipsch RB10, which is cost effective and at the same time has the ability to deliver an exceptional, refined sound experience.

Nevertheless, listening to sound is a highly subjective experience. We find Klipsch RB10 to sing better than MV4.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: metalgodz on Sep 29, 2008 at 04:03 PM: Quote from: E-reply on Sep 27, 2008 at 12:51 PM
M35i at P28200. 12 months

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/M35i.jpg)

hi sir, can an hk 3xx series make this speaker sing well and how will you compare it to whrfs 9.6.

thank you very much
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: santwip on Oct 01, 2008 at 10:53 AM: Quote from: E-reply on Sep 29, 2008 at 01:49 PM
The Mission MV series are made for mass market audience who simply wants good sounds for both music and movie.

The Mission also has the high-end 79 series speakers, which are created for those who prefer peak-performance of stereo music. However, the bookshelf 790 is quite expensive, if you are to compare this with MV4.

That's why we recommend Klipsch RB10, which is cost effective and at the same time has the ability to deliver an exceptional, refined sound experience.

Nevertheless, listening to sound is a highly subjective experience. We find Klipsch RB10 to sing better than MV4.

sir,

Thank you so much for the information.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Blade on Oct 09, 2008 at 09:57 AM: Quote from: E-reply on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Mission MV-4 at 12 months P7700. is also available at Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza.
will try to pass by shang to audition this pair...
im slowly building my audio system compose of CA azur 540A & 640C...
heard this kombo with the MS but would like to try it with mv4s...
im a little bit biased with missions kasi im a former mission 702e user...hehehe...
8)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Oct 09, 2008 at 11:51 AM: Quote from: Blade on Oct 09, 2008 at 09:57 AM
will try to pass by shang to audition this pair...
im slowly building my audio system compose of CA azur 540A & 640C...
heard this kombo with the MS but would like to try it with mv4s...
im a little bit biased with missions kasi im a former mission 702e user...hehehe...
8)

Welcome, and do some audition. Look for Jun, Paul, or Arnold for assistance.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: cardinalrich on Oct 09, 2008 at 05:40 PM: Sir E-Reply,

Please pm discounted cash price of M34i.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: cardinalrich on Oct 10, 2008 at 03:22 PM: Sir E-reply,

I got your pm. Thank you for the quote.

Will the M34i be a good match with a Marantz avr? or what would be the best avr (price range 20K to 30K PhP) to match the M34i? Listening preferences will be 50-50% movies/audio.

TIA
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: brightfame on Oct 11, 2008 at 06:59 AM: What's the going rate for mv-2 and mv-c?

I'm planning to get this weekend.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Oct 11, 2008 at 01:58 PM: Quote from: cardinalrich on Oct 10, 2008 at 03:22 PM
Sir E-reply,

I got your pm. Thank you for the quote.

Will the M34i be a good match with a Marantz avr? or what would be the best avr (price range 20K to 30K PhP) to match the M34i? Listening preferences will be 50-50% movies/audio.

TIA

We do not have Marantz to evaluate the sound. However, if you read the many thread in this forum, the Mission is best preferred to match it with either Onkyo or Denon receivers. If your price range is 20 to 30K, you may consider the Onkyo TXSR506 at cash P19800. or Denon AVR1909 at cash P30600.

By the way, both above Onkyo and Denon are rated 5 stars by the What HiFi Magazine.

Check out the reviews of Onkyo 506 http://whathifi.com/Review/Onkyo-TX-SR506/
Denon AVR1909 http://whathifi.com/Review/Denon-AVR-1909/
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Oct 11, 2008 at 01:58 PM: Quote from: brightfame on Oct 11, 2008 at 06:59 AM
What's the going rate for mv-2 and mv-c?

I'm planning to get this weekend.

Sent you pm.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Nemesis91 on Oct 11, 2008 at 02:27 PM: Big cash discounts on PDVD on all mission speakers! ;)
call theater works 901-39-75
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: cardinalrich on Oct 11, 2008 at 02:53 PM: Sir E-reply,

Thank you for your reply re: M34i.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: santwip on Oct 11, 2008 at 05:09 PM: Quote from: E-reply on Oct 11, 2008 at 01:58 PM
We do not have Marantz to evaluate the sound. However, if you read the many thread in this forum, the Mission is best preferred to match it with either Onkyo or Denon receivers.

sir, how about sa entry level na YAMAHA (75w/ch)? d sila magandang match?

thanks in advance sa mga replies.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 25, 2008 at 05:24 PM: I have a question. I have the Mission M73 as fronts. I chose that model (over the M72 bookshelf) back in 2004 because I didn't have money for a sub. I hoped, by getting the floorstander, to have a little more bass.

I recently got the Velo CHT-10R. Do you think I should now upgrade my speakers to a higher-end model na bookshelf, since I don't need the fronts for the bass anymore?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: frootloops on Oct 25, 2008 at 07:31 PM: ^ If I were in your position, I wouldn't. Having MORE is good, just set your amp to small then if budget permit, get a power amp (in case you don't have yet) to get more beef in your fronts. I got several suggestions that having an equal woofers in front (LCR) gives you a better timber matching.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: barrister on Oct 25, 2008 at 07:59 PM: Quote from: tonedeaf on Oct 25, 2008 at 05:24 PM
I recently got the Velo CHT-10R. Do you think I should now upgrade my speakers to a higher-end model na bookshelf, since I don't need the fronts for the bass anymore?

It depends on the character of the sound you're looking for.

If you think you don't need the fronts for bass, then upgrading to a higher end bookshelf would be a good idea, if your objective is to improve the quality of your high and mid frequencies.

However, with a bookshelf + subwoofer setup, most of the mid-bass is produced by the subwoofer. As a result, the mid-bass you get is usually the softer "boom" of the sub rather than the harder "thump" of the floorstander.

With floorstander + subwoofer setups, the floorstanders will produce a more authoritative mid-bass, while the subwoofer covers the lower bass and low frequency extensions (with some overlapping with the floorstanders in the mid-bass region). This setup will produce a bigger, more full-bodied sound.

On the other hand, some people prefer bookshelves because they are looking for the clarity, presence and detail that small speakers offer, which are important for critical listening in music applications.

My personal preference is the floorstander + sub setup (I recommend a floorstander with 2 bass drivers). That way, I get the big sound and forward mid-bass that I want for movies. For music, I use only 2-channel, with subwoofer off.

It really depends on your own preferences.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: deo on Nov 07, 2008 at 01:11 PM: ok kaya pang surrounds to? mas mura sa m3ds eh ;D

Mission EH-3 Surround

(http://www.apollohifi.com.au/html/spk/images/main_018.jpg)

(http://www.mission.co.uk/images/models/19/main.jpg)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ctlim on Nov 07, 2008 at 01:55 PM: magkano yan deo?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Nov 08, 2008 at 01:15 PM: Quote from: ctlim on Nov 07, 2008 at 01:55 PM
magkano yan deo?

According to local Mission, the EH-3 is now a discontinued model. The new series is Msds which is expected to be available this week. We shall inform you the price once we have this unit available.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: moks on Nov 08, 2008 at 10:50 PM: ok ba i-match ang mission mv series sa yamaha na receivers? anybody has personal experience on this set-up?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: leomar on Nov 09, 2008 at 10:23 AM: Quote from: moks on Nov 08, 2008 at 10:50 PM
ok ba i-match ang mission mv series sa yamaha na receivers? anybody has personal experience on this set-up?

im not using the MV series, but M3is BSs with 659 is ok for my taste... lots of details =)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: moks on Nov 15, 2008 at 06:25 PM: what brand of speaker cables are match with mission and denon setup? what i noticed with the mission mv series is that the highs are a little bit on the harsh side. what kind of cable/digital coax interconnect can tame the harhness of the tweeters?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Nov 15, 2008 at 08:32 PM: what is the recommended presence speakers matched for a Yamaha RX-V750 or RX-V663
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Nov 15, 2008 at 09:28 PM: Quote from: jackryan on Nov 15, 2008 at 08:32 PM
what is the recommended presence speakers matched for a Yamaha RX-V750 or RX-V663

Yamaha has a bit bright and forward sounding. Mission might sound a bit bright too. You might need warm sounding speakers like B&W, Monitor Audio, or Wharfedale. Check these speakers out at our shop Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ton2v on Nov 17, 2008 at 06:44 PM: Hi,

I am almost decided to get all mission set-up except for the surround speakers.

MV-8
MV-c
MVds or Diamond 9dfs???

Will the price difference justify to get the mission surround speakers over the wharfs?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: E-reply on Nov 18, 2008 at 02:59 PM: Quote from: ton2v on Nov 17, 2008 at 06:44 PM
Hi,

I am almost decided to get all mission set-up except for the surround speakers.

MV-8
MV-c
MVds or Diamond 9dfs???

Will the price difference justify to get the mission surround speakers over the wharfs?

I will choose Diamond 9dfs over MVds. Dipole 9dfs take advantage of reflected sound to create a wider soundfield than front firing small surround speakers like MVds. Also, since our evaluation shows that the 9dfs and the MVds have almost similar tonal characteristics, the 9dfs can equally voice match with MV8 and MVC. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: gillian_r on Nov 24, 2008 at 01:38 PM: Sir, please PM price of the MV lineup. Thanks!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sjss on Nov 25, 2008 at 10:03 AM: i saw a mission mv set at the former image in harrison plaza, and the prices are mv8 - P17,+++, mvc - P6,+++, and mv4 - P7,+++, sub - P18,+++, or a total of about P50K
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: defjam on Nov 26, 2008 at 11:39 AM: any owners here of the mv series?care to do a mini review?this model has been on my list for awhile now. :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: defjam on Dec 09, 2008 at 11:28 AM: mga guru's planning to get either the mission mv4 or mv6. ano po ba diff nila aside from ung isa floorstanding and ung isa bookshelf?im gonna pair it with my onkyo 604. my initial plan was to get the mv4 and buy speaker stands e almost the same lang ang total na price sa mv6. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: titopepe on Dec 09, 2008 at 11:37 AM: hi guys! where can i find the cheapest seller of mission speakers?
saw someone posted that he got his mv8 for atleast 15k...
i was quoted a bit higher.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ivannn on Dec 09, 2008 at 02:19 PM: Quote from: titopepe on Dec 09, 2008 at 11:37 AM
hi guys! where can i find the cheapest seller of mission speakers?
saw someone posted that he got his mv8 for atleast 15k...
i was quoted a bit higher.

hi. baka he got it for 15k because he asked for "cash price" try mo sir sa sights and sounds and try to pm avshop. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Nemesis91 on Dec 09, 2008 at 04:17 PM: Quote from: titopepe on Dec 09, 2008 at 11:37 AM
hi guys! where can i find the cheapest seller of mission speakers?
saw someone posted that he got his mv8 for atleast 15k...
i was quoted a bit higher.

Super sale kami, call Em or Jennifer @ 901-39-75 for pdvd discounts!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: moks on Dec 10, 2008 at 06:59 AM: Quote from: defjam on Dec 09, 2008 at 11:28 AM
mga guru's planning to get either the mission mv4 or mv6. ano po ba diff nila aside from ung isa floorstanding and ung isa bookshelf?im gonna pair it with my onkyo 604. my initial plan was to get the mv4 and buy speaker stands e almost the same lang ang total na price sa mv6. ;D

For me, if you're gonna use it more on HT, get the bookshelf. You're gonna set the settings for your front speakers to small anyway in the receiver settings. But, if you're gonna use it more for audio or music purposes, better get the floorstander. Though some audiophiles prefer bookshelves over floorstanders for more precise imaging and clarity.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: titopepe on Dec 10, 2008 at 07:43 AM: Quote from: Nemesis91 on Dec 09, 2008 at 04:17 PM
Super sale kami, call Em or Jennifer @ 901-39-75 for pdvd discounts!

sir, wala raw kayo m73i. mga how much ba to, and whats the difference between m73i and mv8 set?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: defjam on Dec 10, 2008 at 05:07 PM: Quote from: moks on Dec 10, 2008 at 06:59 AM
For me, if you're gonna use it more on HT, get the bookshelf. You're gonna set the settings for your front speakers to small anyway in the receiver settings. But, if you're gonna use it more for audio or music purposes, better get the floorstander. Though some audiophiles prefer bookshelves over floorstanders for more precise imaging and clarity.

im gonna use it more for HT..kasi if i buy the mv4+speaker stands mas mahal pa sha compared sa mv6 na tower na.malaki ba talaga diff ng 2?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: moks on Dec 10, 2008 at 05:18 PM: Quote from: defjam on Dec 10, 2008 at 05:07 PM
im gonna use it more for HT..kasi if i buy the mv4+speaker stands mas mahal pa sha compared sa mv6 na tower na.malaki ba talaga diff ng 2?

My deciding factor why i chose the bookshelfs over the floorstanders is the space of my bedroom also. Second, if I wanted to upgrade to a better bookshelf speaker in the future i need not buy speaker stands anymore. It's just a one time thing. Good floorstanding speakers are usually more expensive. That's just me though.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: juanch on Jan 07, 2009 at 11:10 PM: Is there a service center here for Mission speakers?

I have a pair of old Leading Edge 700 speakers na mahina na yung sound. ???

TIA
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: juanch on Jan 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM: Quote from: juancho on Jan 07, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Is there a service center here for Mission speakers?

I have a pair of old Leading Edge 700 speakers na mahina na yung sound. ???

TIA

Wala? Wala?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Raygun on Jan 29, 2009 at 12:31 AM: Quote from: moks on Nov 15, 2008 at 06:25 PM
what brand of speaker cables are match with mission and denon setup? what i noticed with the mission mv series is that the highs are a little bit on the harsh side. what kind of cable/digital coax interconnect can tame the harhness of the tweeters?

I had success with QEDs in taming the harshness
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: butchoy8701 on Feb 01, 2009 at 08:29 PM: Guys,

What's the difference between mv-2 / mv-4 with mv-ds? just curious. Is mv-ds designed for HT sorround application? Thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: disturbed on Feb 02, 2009 at 10:41 PM: not sure though..but i think mv ds is for surrounds since dipole yata configuration nito
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mac_daddy on Feb 28, 2009 at 12:18 AM: Quote from: juancho on Jan 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Wala? Wala?

hindi ba pwede dalhin sa DCM sa cubao yung mission for repair?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bhongskie on Mar 02, 2009 at 04:32 PM: anyone here using the M35i for music? how do you find them? can you please post your listening impressions?

thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: bhongskie on Mar 09, 2009 at 11:37 AM: mukang pang ht lang missions ah. walang gumagamit ng m35i for music set up? ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: gearhead000 on May 20, 2009 at 02:29 PM: mukhang di na nag-carry ng mission ang dcm cubao?

http://designerscollection-ph.com/ (http://designerscollection-ph.com/)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: RNIverson on Jun 23, 2009 at 11:20 AM: Any recommended stores in Singapore for the Mission MV series? I only found the Alpha Audio store. If I really can't find an affordable Mission here, which replacement would you recommend?

TIA
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: leomar on Jun 23, 2009 at 06:14 PM: - tanggalin ko na hehehe
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: RNIverson on Jun 23, 2009 at 08:31 PM: MV-8 nga hanap ko sana sir ;D Baka meron kayo alam pagtingnan niyan?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Tootsie on Sep 01, 2009 at 04:08 PM: for other mission speakers, you may call us at 3718128, pls look for Jun
Title: Mission MV8
Post by: Jazzman on Oct 03, 2009 at 11:11 AM: Guys, what's your review for Mission MV8 hi-fi speakers? Any recommendation where can I get one?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Mission MV8
Post by: JayR1129 on Oct 03, 2009 at 12:05 PM: bro try mo dto.. ;D

http://theaterworksmnl.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=allbrandedspeakers&action=display&thread=10&page=2

nka sale mission nila.. less 20% pag cash.. ;)
Title: Re: Mission MV8
Post by: Jazzman on Oct 03, 2009 at 12:25 PM: Yup. Talked to Jeff na :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: busabos on Oct 04, 2009 at 01:15 AM: Where can I audition Mission mv8 (aside from Theaterworks) ?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: busabos on Oct 04, 2009 at 07:19 AM: Another question, is mv8 higher model than the m7 line? how about the m35 line?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: John E. on Oct 04, 2009 at 07:30 AM: Quote from: busabos on Oct 04, 2009 at 01:15 AM
Where can I audition Mission mv8 (aside from Theaterworks) ?

mission speakers are also available at sights and sounds at shangri-la.

you can PM E-Reply or post questions on their thread.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=70382.0

tel. 634-1789

;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: John E. on Oct 04, 2009 at 07:42 AM: Quote from: busabos on Oct 04, 2009 at 07:19 AM
Another question, is mv8 higher model than the m7 line? how about the m35 line?
mission speaker series are

M series and under M are the Mv's and M3i series.

the Mv's has a smaller built which is also the entry level series while the M3i's are higher. they also sound much better. the price point difference is not that big though but the sound is.

try to audition both ;)

also available at robinson's pioneer.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: dips15 on Oct 04, 2009 at 09:15 AM: If by Robinson's Pioneer, you were referring to the Theaterworks branch/sister company, its already closed.

Ganda nung higher end missions sa Listening in Style sa Shang. Gwapong-gwapo.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: John E. on Oct 05, 2009 at 11:03 PM: Quote from: dips15 on Oct 04, 2009 at 09:15 AM
If by Robinson's Pioneer, you were referring to the Theaterworks branch/sister company, its already closed.

Ganda nung higher end missions sa Listening in Style sa Shang. Gwapong-gwapo.

:o talaga bro closed na! nakaka lunkot naman at nabawasan nanaman ang hobby shop nating mga hobbiest and enthusiast!

thanks for the info!

kamusta bro? naka sale pa ba ang dyns? ;D sana bumaba pa ang presyo ng audience 42.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Mr.H on Oct 05, 2009 at 11:23 PM: Quote from: JohnE. on Oct 05, 2009 at 11:03 PM
:o talaga bro closed na! nakaka lunkot naman at nabawasan nanaman ang hobby shop nating mga hobbiest and enthusiast!

thanks for the info!

kamusta bro? naka sale pa ba ang dyns? ;D sana bumaba pa ang presyo ng audience 42.

hmmmm.....mukang may matinding pagnanasa ka kay inDyns ha brader John.....ahihihi ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: John E. on Oct 05, 2009 at 11:29 PM: :D hihihihi napapaisip lang brader hermie ;D sana bumaba pa ang presyo :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: DOM on Oct 05, 2009 at 11:59 PM: 25t yata yun audience 42, gana na speaker yun dyns john,
buy na. :) ;) :D ;D sorry po sa ot
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ravel on Oct 30, 2009 at 09:15 AM: Guys, does any one have experiences with mission m62i and 792? Are they good? How do you characterize them? Do some of our avshops have demo units with them? Been asking around from some, pero what they have are the mv and m3 series, eh. Planning to replace my mission m71s fronts sana. Thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 30, 2009 at 02:20 PM: Quote from: ravel on Oct 30, 2009 at 09:15 AM
Guys, does any one have experiences with mission m62i and 792? Are they good? How do you characterize them? Do some of our avshops have demo units with them? Been asking around from some, pero what they have are the mv and m3 series, eh. Planning to replace my mission m71s fronts sana. Thanks.

eto sir baka interested ka ganda nito http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=96297.0 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=96297.0) buo kayo ng group buy ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ravel on Oct 30, 2009 at 02:32 PM: Quote from: vtec3 on Oct 30, 2009 at 02:20 PM
eto sir baka interested ka ganda nito http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=96297.0 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=96297.0) buo kayo ng group buy ;)

Naku sir, I was also contemplating on it as well, however, I have no space for a floorstander. I have to change my avrack (spider rack, maybe?) pa and would like to maintain an all black gear sana.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 30, 2009 at 04:37 PM: Quote from: ravel on Oct 30, 2009 at 02:32 PM
Naku sir, I was also contemplating on it as well, however, I have no space for a floorstander. I have to change my avrack (spider rack, maybe?) pa and would like to maintain an all black gear sana.

ok. ganda sana nun M53. i have a M52 and would want sana the M53 kaya lang wala sa budget ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mykel18 on Nov 08, 2009 at 11:48 AM: san kaya pwede magaudition ng HK and mission combo?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mokfo on Jan 18, 2010 at 11:55 AM: I'm planning of getting mission m32 for my denon 1610. Ok ba matching nito? Based on specs, mas mataas and sensitivity ng m32 compared to other speakers and this is ideal for low rms out like 1610. Any comments? Newbie lang po ako sa audio. TY.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: butchoy8701 on Feb 20, 2010 at 04:19 PM: Quote from: mokfo on Jan 18, 2010 at 11:55 AM
I'm planning of getting mission m32 for my denon 1610. Ok ba matching nito? Based on specs, mas mataas and sensitivity ng m32 compared to other speakers and this is ideal for low rms out like 1610. Any comments? Newbie lang po ako sa audio. TY.

The higher the sensitivity, the easier to drive for the amp. Forward sounding itong mission, in my opinion good for HT application, but it is me listening. :) If music ang application, try looking for other brands, such as epos & aurum cantus. cheers
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Aug 05, 2010 at 02:12 AM: I am a new Mission owner

Got a Mission MV-4 Bookshelf brand new from AVX (the former Image audio/video) in Harisson Plaza just last monday.

Currently being driven by a lowly Harman/Kardon HK3470 Stereo Receiver

I'm still in the 'break-in' period but so far, sound staging and stereo performance is a lot better than its predecessor, although I am still picky with the bass and treble performance for now. I hope the midrange tones down a bit though.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Aug 13, 2010 at 11:08 PM: Quote from: mikeer2002ph on Aug 05, 2010 at 02:12 AM
I am a new Mission owner

Got a Mission MV-4 Bookshelf brand new from AVX (the former Image audio/video) in Harisson Plaza just last monday.

Currently being driven by a lowly Harman/Kardon HK3470 Stereo Receiver

I'm still in the 'break-in' period but so far, sound staging and stereo performance is a lot better than its predecessor, although I am still picky with the bass and treble performance for now. I hope the midrange tones down a bit though.

Update:
I brought the MV4s back to the shop yesterday (Thursday, Aug. 13, 2010) because the rear port started vibrating and actually became loose even on moderate music.

I initially opted for an upgrade to the M32i but it was actually more 'midrange-y' than the MV4s.

I also auditioned several 'replacement-upgrade' pairs like a Celestion 100 (on deep discounted sale because it had a damaged dome tweeter and a chipped enclosure), an Energy C100 (also on deep discount because it had damaged grilles and a poked woofer surround), a fresh out of the box Paradigm Atom and Monitor Audio BR2 which was WAY beyond my budget (asking for 22K and 19K respectively)

I'm still not happy with the bass and treble performance with the replacement pair when they were auditioned in the store. The store reasonably declined a refund.

In the end I settled to just have it replaced, and it was replaced by a black variant of the MV4s (I originally got the rosewood vinyl) since that's the store's last stock.

According to an old mission owner (our neighbor who owns an M73i), that's the hallmark of mission speakers - up front midrange and not much bass and treble.

I like the stereo performance and the sound-staging no doubt, the only problem is the midrange = I don't think it will ever tone down.

So now I have a brand new speaker pair that I have not even opened at home and most likely will end up in the 'marketplace'.

If anyone is interested in them, you know where to proceed.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Aug 14, 2010 at 02:47 PM: Quote from: mikeer2002ph on Aug 13, 2010 at 11:08 PM
Update:
I brought the MV4s back to the shop yesterday (Thursday, Aug. 13, 2010) because the rear port started vibrating and actually became loose even on moderate music.

I initially opted for an upgrade to the M32i but it was actually more 'midrange-y' than the MV4s.

I also auditioned several 'replacement-upgrade' pairs like a Celestion 100 (on deep discounted sale because it had a damaged dome tweeter and a chipped enclosure), an Energy C100 (also on deep discount because it had damaged grilles and a poked woofer surround), a fresh out of the box Paradigm Atom and Monitor Audio BR2 which was WAY beyond my budget (asking for 22K and 19K respectively)

I'm still not happy with the bass and treble performance with the replacement pair when they were auditioned in the store. The store reasonably declined a refund.

In the end I settled to just have it replaced, and it was replaced by a black variant of the MV4s (I originally got the rosewood vinyl) since that's the store's last stock.

According to an old mission owner (our neighbor who owns an M73i), that's the hallmark of mission speakers - up front midrange and not much bass and treble.

I like the stereo performance and the sound-staging no doubt, the only problem is the midrange = I don't think it will ever tone down.

So now I have a brand new speaker pair that I have not even opened at home and most likely will end up in the 'marketplace'.

If anyone is interested in them, you know where to proceed.

Update (Aug. 14,2010)

I've decided to unpack the speakers, do another break-in for these new pair, and this time turned on the Klipsch RW10 subs full time.

I'm keeping it.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Aug 15, 2010 at 08:52 PM: sir malamang kapag nabreak-in mo na nang matagal e mas gumanda yung tunog. If I may ask, magkano kuha mo sa MV4? Baka naman kasi konti lang yung difference sa M32i. Besides siguradong may discount pa yun. Anyway, congrats sa new speakers mo :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Aug 18, 2010 at 10:43 AM: Quote from: r0n1n on Aug 15, 2010 at 08:52 PM
sir malamang kapag nabreak-in mo na nang matagal e mas gumanda yung tunog. If I may ask, magkano kuha mo sa MV4? Baka naman kasi konti lang yung difference sa M32i. Besides siguradong may discount pa yun. Anyway, congrats sa new speakers mo :)

I got it for 7.7K at AVX (the former Image audio/video) in Harisson Plaza.

Cash Price is 10% off the plastic (credit card) price so if I had hard cash then I could have gotten it at around 6930 bucks

M32i costs 20K (credit cards), 10% if cash

Regarding break-ins..

Well I did break in the first MV-4 (rosewood vinyl) from the moment it got home till I returned it (monday - Aug 2 to Aug. 13), speakers playing on soft volume on classical music 24/7.

I returned it because there was some weird cluttering sound which I pinpointed to the loose rear ports (bith left and righ ports were not glued correctly in the factory) hence was replaced by the shop.

Anyway, I noticed that indeed the sound staging was spectacular out of the box, but had less than stellar bass and treble performance as compared to the previous speakers I had (AE Evo 1s)

When I started using the replacement MV-4s (blackwood vinyl) it still had spectacular sound-staging and this time, better bass-treble performance as compared to the first pair, but still fall behind the AE Evo1s out of the box.

Its only when I turned on the sub (normally I dont use the sub at all except during parties with the EVO 1s) when the speakers finally did sparkle.

Also the midrange toned down just after 3 days of use, the treble is almost there at par with the EVO1s.

So instead of selling it (even first without using it) I've decided to keep it (it still does not sound right by themselves) but at least the sub will be frequently used now instead of just being a backup.

Why dont you come over and listen to it? bring your CDs or WMA/MP3s (DVD-/+R or CD-R formats only) because I still need other types of music (I only have classical/jazz/vocals). Hopefully R&B and Rock music can shake the woofers more and lower the midrange levels further.

Finally! Pictures (pardon the low resolution from the camera phone)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs364.snc4/44770_1521674716348_1068989207_1519296_864153_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs378.snc4/46119_1521674916353_1068989207_1519297_482483_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs398.snc4/46119_1521674956354_1068989207_1519298_2035111_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs198.ash2/46119_1521674996355_1068989207_1519299_3744236_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs198.ash2/46119_1521675036356_1068989207_1519300_1284750_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs378.snc4/46119_1521675076357_1068989207_1519301_8109568_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs378.snc4/46119_1521675116358_1068989207_1519302_4399858_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs198.ash2/46119_1521675156359_1068989207_1519303_1520059_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Aug 19, 2010 at 05:46 PM: sir mikeer2002ph, baket ang mahal naman sobra ng M32? from same shop ba yung quote sa yo? Yung M33 15k lang mahigit. PM mo si sir vic.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Aug 19, 2010 at 09:11 PM: Quote from: r0n1n on Aug 19, 2010 at 05:46 PM
sir mikeer2002ph, baket ang mahal naman sobra ng M32? from same shop ba yung quote sa yo? Yung M33 15k lang mahigit. PM mo si sir vic.

yep same shop (AVX) - the M31i (as big as the MV4) is already 15K less 10% on cash
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Aug 19, 2010 at 09:32 PM: Quote from: mikeer2002ph on Aug 19, 2010 at 09:11 PM
yep same shop (AVX) - the M31i (as big as the MV4) is already 15K less 10% on cash

ygpm
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Aug 19, 2010 at 11:02 PM: ^ wow, I think I should stop doing impulse buying of speakers

well anyway, since I'll be keeping these pair, it will be quite some time before I ditch these.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Oct 02, 2010 at 08:57 AM: Quote from: mikeer2002ph on Aug 19, 2010 at 11:02 PM
^ wow, I think I should stop doing impulse buying of speakers

well anyway, since I'll be keeping these pair, it will be quite some time before I ditch these.

My bad. I am an ex-mission speaker owner so i have to let go of this thread.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mattmatt on Dec 04, 2010 at 02:47 PM: Quote from: gearhead000 on May 20, 2009 at 02:29 PM
mukhang di na nag-carry ng mission ang dcm cubao?

http://designerscollection-ph.com/ (http://designerscollection-ph.com/)
tigoks na dcm..........wala kang maasahan din dun ???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 04, 2010 at 04:03 PM: Quote from: mattmatt on Dec 04, 2010 at 02:47 PM
tigoks na dcm..........wala kang maasahan din dun ???

They're still very much alive. However, if you're looking for Mission, you should be visiting F.M. Apolinario instead. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Felix on Dec 09, 2010 at 01:36 PM: Quote from: Stagea on Dec 04, 2010 at 04:03 PM

They're still very much alive. However, if you're looking for Mission, you should be visiting F.M. Apolinario instead. :)

sir ask ko lang if dealer b ang F.M. Apolinario if so mas mura dapat prices nila compared sa mga retail shops but im not sure if end users can purchase direct from them. tia.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 10, 2010 at 12:43 AM: FM Apolinario is the Mission distributor.
DCM is also a distributor, but of other brands. They have their own merchandise to distribute and sell.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sientobente on Mar 01, 2011 at 04:54 PM: I have auditioned Polk TSi and it's M series plus the Wharfedale 10 series earlier but I ended up with Mission Speakers :) And I don't have any regrets. This is paired with an Onkyo 608.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: edison on Mar 07, 2011 at 10:10 AM: Nakabili ako mission MV-6 floorstanding speaker, bakit hindi yata ako satisfied sa bass performance as sir mikeer2002ph said, same ata kami ng evaluation. Naliliitan ako sa overall sound pero malakas ang treble nya.,kelangan pa gumamit ng sub. Mukhang pang home theatre application ata ito, pag sa music kapos sa bass peo maganda imaging. Any comment on these MV series ng mission.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: juanch on Mar 07, 2011 at 10:23 AM: Quote from: edison on Mar 07, 2011 at 10:10 AM
Nakabili ako mission MV-6 floorstanding speaker, bakit hindi yata ako satisfied sa bass performance as sir mikeer2002ph said, same ata kami ng evaluation. Naliliitan ako sa overall sound pero malakas ang treble nya.,kelangan pa gumamit ng sub. Mukhang pang home theatre application ata ito, pag sa music kapos sa bass peo maganda imaging. Any comment on these MV series ng mission.

Your room can have a big influence on the sound quality of your speakers.
I just recently experienced this when I moved my speakers from my room to a music room.

You can try experimenting with speaker placement to find the sound you want.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sientobente on Mar 07, 2011 at 11:51 AM: Quote from: edison on Mar 07, 2011 at 10:10 AM
Nakabili ako mission MV-6 floorstanding speaker, bakit hindi yata ako satisfied sa bass performance as sir mikeer2002ph said, same ata kami ng evaluation. Naliliitan ako sa overall sound pero malakas ang treble nya.,kelangan pa gumamit ng sub. Mukhang pang home theatre application ata ito, pag sa music kapos sa bass peo maganda imaging. Any comment on these MV series ng mission.

i am not familiar with the mv8, i'm using an m33i. according to the manual, there should be atleast .2m in between the back wall and my floorstanders since there is a port at the back. having less than that would have the tendency of having a louder bass sound but following the recommended manufacturer's spec would enable you to have a more defined bass sound.

plus if you have a separate equalizer or your receiver has a parametric equalizer, set anything below 60Hz up so low frequencies can be amplified a bit.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: edison on Mar 07, 2011 at 12:19 PM: Tnx mga sir sa idea, try ko yung mga posibleng gawin,, pero if I connect these MV 6 speaker to a stereo amp dito ko nae-evaluate na kulang yung overall sound nya medyo maliit yung kalat ng tunog. Mas maganda ata yung mga lumang model ng mission as compared to these newer MV series. Gusto ko ata yung sinasabi nilang musical speakers na maganda sa music at ok din sa home theater application, yung malambot ang bass at punchy.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sientobente on Mar 07, 2011 at 12:40 PM: oh before i forget, if the mv6 also has this feature to add weight by putting sand in it, then that may help too because it should reduce unwanted resonance coming from the cabinet plus the speaker driver will be stationed firmly enabling it's excursion to work naturally.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: blurayhd on Mar 08, 2011 at 12:05 PM: I have Denon engineered mission speakers SCM-51. The pseakers are part of the 2 channel component. The front grill has denon logo yet at the back it says designed by Denon for Mission model SCM 51. Nice sound quality for music. good mixture of bass.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Rainbow63 on Apr 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM: Mga mission owners been comtemplating in getting the Mv-6 floorstander, any feedback on this speakers. kulang ba talaga ang bass response nya, i dont want to purchase this in the end if it will not pass to my expectations. please enlighten me sirs.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sientobente on Apr 13, 2011 at 07:18 AM: audition niyo muna sir pero when i got to hear an mv6, it's pretty decent naman even if it wasn't totally breaked-in yet.

ang comment naman sa akin ng dad ko masyadong boomy ang m33i ko. minsan naman yung lack of bass can be compensated by your subs by turning the cut off on a higher frequency.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Ibosotts on Apr 28, 2011 at 06:18 PM: ;D tanong ko lang mga sir okey bang ipares ang mission sa marantz pm 80 ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sientobente on May 06, 2011 at 09:09 AM: Quote from: Ibosotts on Apr 28, 2011 at 06:18 PM
;D tanong ko lang mga sir okey bang ipares ang mission sa marantz pm 80 ;D

i haven't heard how the pm80 sounded but the marantz+mission combo looks popular in threads i have read from the avforums.com
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: edison on Jun 22, 2011 at 08:33 AM: Mga Sir, MV-6 or MV series speaker ay design for home theater application, so don't expect na maganda ang musical bass nya, pati ang high sobrang makalansing kasi nga pang home theater. Lagyan na lang ng sub para ma-improve ang bass, saka made in china na rin kasi ito kaya nga mas affordable na. Kung gusto nyo ng speaker na pang music application wag na yung pang HT kunin nyo or better have a separate system na lang kung pwede.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mickmads on Jun 23, 2011 at 12:04 PM: tuloy parin ba ang pagiging disto ng apolinario for mission speakers? anyone here have a working contact number? thanks ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: volcomstoner on Aug 19, 2011 at 11:10 AM: Mga ser
Ok po ba mission mx1 sa audio? Rock,alternative ,heavy metal??? Ty
Mura kasi sya ..kaya kaya nya tapatan rtia1 ng polk?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sientobente on Aug 20, 2011 at 04:40 AM: Quote from: volcomstoner on Aug 19, 2011 at 11:10 AM
Mga ser
Ok po ba mission mx1 sa audio? Rock,alternative ,heavy metal??? Ty
Mura kasi sya ..kaya kaya nya tapatan rtia1 ng polk?

for me, i think there is a difference on the sonic characteristic between the two. rtis can sound a bit more lively while the mx would sound warmer. let your ears decide what it wants the most.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Conan on Aug 22, 2011 at 06:14 PM: I just auditioned a pair of Mission MX1 bookshelf speakers after reading that they are rated 5 stars by What Hi fi:

http://www.whathifi.com/review/Mission-MX1

Video review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGLtYL-umWA

They sound great! Good bass, highs that blend in perfectly with its nice slightly sweet sounding midrange. I didn't expect much bass performance due to its compact size but the quality (and quantity) of the bass is a pleasant surprise. I did a back to back listen with PSB Image B4 (my current audio speakers) and the Mission sounds better. The B4's midrange was thinner compared to the Mission, and the bass of the B4 was weaker. The B4 may have a very slight edge in treble but overall the Mission beats it. The MX1's are also slightly cheaper than the B4, good job Mission! ;D

Both speakers were auditioned with NAD C316BEE amp and NAD C515BEE CD player at Watt Hi-Fi Makati Cinema Square.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: luis on Aug 23, 2011 at 01:48 PM: bro Conan, how much daw mission mx1?

???
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Conan on Aug 23, 2011 at 03:22 PM: Quote from: luis on Aug 23, 2011 at 01:48 PM
bro Conan, how much daw mission mx1?

???

SRP is around 12th, of course for cash, it's less pa depending on the dealer. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Conan on Aug 27, 2011 at 12:30 PM: I took home the Mission MX1 speakers yesterday. But before I did, I auditioned a lot of PSB bookshelf speakers just to make sure I was making the right decision. I auditioned Alpha B1, Image B6 and even the Imagine B! What stood out was that the full bodied midrange of the MX1 could not be matched by any of the PSB speakers. The metallic tweeters of the PSB played higher compared to the silk-dome tweeters of the MX1 but the midrange performance was just too attractive for me to pass up!

I gave my PSB B4's to my dad matched with a DTA-1 T amp. He's pretty happy and amazed as well at the sound of the B4's. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sientobente on Aug 27, 2011 at 06:52 PM: Quote from: Conan on Aug 27, 2011 at 12:30 PM
I took home the Mission MX1 speakers yesterday. But before I did, I auditioned a lot of PSB bookshelf speakers just to make sure I was making the right decision. I auditioned Alpha B1, Image B6 and even the Imagine B! What stood out was that the full bodied midrange of the MX1 could not be matched by any of the PSB speakers. The metallic tweeters of the PSB played higher compared to the silk-dome tweeters of the MX1 but the midrange performance was just too attractive for me to pass up!

I gave my PSB B4's to my dad ;matched with a DTA-1 T amp. He's pretty happy and amazed as well at the sound of the B4's. ;D

Great review Sir Conan! It made me wanna audition those MX-1s. By the way, what amp and cdp are you planning to pair it with? Thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Conan on Aug 27, 2011 at 07:27 PM: Quote from: sientobente on Aug 27, 2011 at 06:52 PM
Great review Sir Conan! It made me wanna audition those MX-1s. By the way, what amp and cdp are you planning to pair it with? Thanks.

My stereo amp is a Topping TP60 T amp (50 watts x 2) and for CD's I'm using an old Pioneer DV-270 DVD player. I plan to get a NAD CD player in the near future when funds allow it. :)

I just had my dad listen to my new speakers with a song that he's familiar with, he said it sounds like a live performance! ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Conan on Sep 01, 2011 at 08:48 AM: I was able to borrow a Rotel RA-04 integrated amp, matched with the Mission MX1 the combination is stunning! The Rotel brings out so much detail from the MX1 without hurting your ears.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Mar 26, 2012 at 03:18 PM: buhayin ko to ;D ;D

I am now a satisfied and very happy owner of a pair of mission Mx5 driven by a marantz SR5005....at pure direct, I'm very satisfied how it sounds..it got good lows and clean highs ;) how much more kung na calibrate na ;) ;) got also the center, kulang na lang ang surrounds :D :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Mar 26, 2012 at 06:38 PM: Quote from: sovrain on Mar 26, 2012 at 03:18 PM
buhayin ko to ;D ;D

I am now a satisfied and very happy owner of a pair of mission Mx5 driven by a marantz SR5005....at pure direct, I'm very satisfied how it sounds..it got good lows and clean highs ;) how much more kung na calibrate na ;) ;) got also the center, kulang na lang ang surrounds :D :D

pics! pics! hintayin namin yan sa gallery :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sientobente on Mar 27, 2012 at 06:07 AM: Quote from: sovrain on Mar 26, 2012 at 03:18 PM
buhayin ko to ;D ;D

I am now a satisfied and very happy owner of a pair of mission Mx5 driven by a marantz SR5005....at pure direct, I'm very satisfied how it sounds..it got good lows and clean highs ;) how much more kung na calibrate na ;) ;) got also the center, kulang na lang ang surrounds :D :D

congrats! i always loved the trademark warm mission sound. how about the center, how does it perform?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Mar 27, 2012 at 07:10 AM: Quote from: r0n1n on Mar 26, 2012 at 06:38 PM
pics! pics! hintayin namin yan sa gallery :D
ha ha, darating tayo jan sir, ayusin ko pa ung wall ko :D

Quote from: sientobente on Mar 27, 2012 at 06:07 AM
congrats! i always loved the trademark warm mission sound. how about the center, how does it perform?
di pa naikakabit yung center sir, I hope to partially finish my wall this holy week vacation and hope na di magkayayaan for an out of town vacation ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Mar 30, 2012 at 08:44 AM: mx5 is ported at its back, I'm planning to put a wire mesh or screen to prevent mouse in entering, would this affect its sound?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sientobente on Apr 12, 2012 at 08:45 AM: Quote from: sovrain on Mar 30, 2012 at 08:44 AM
mx5 is ported at its back, I'm planning to put a wire mesh or screen to prevent mouse in entering, would this affect its sound?

I'm guessing that it will have less pronounced lows due to the restricted air flow on the port plus if you are planning to use a metal mesh/screen, there may be unwanted resonance. how about trying a speaker grill cloth instead? I think you can buy these at shell canvas.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Apr 13, 2012 at 02:32 PM: Quote from: sientobente on Apr 12, 2012 at 08:45 AM
I'm guessing that it will have less pronounced lows due to the restricted air flow on the port plus if you are planning to use a metal mesh/screen, there may be unwanted resonance. how about trying a speaker grill cloth instead? I think you can buy these at shell canvas.
thanks for the suggestion sir, iniisip ko nga kung paano ikabit, alangan namang stapler ;D double face adhesive siguro baka ok....kya lang, kaya pa rin ngatngatin ng bubwit yung cloth...may Tom naman sa bahay, kaya lang, baka maisahan ni jerry ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Apr 14, 2012 at 06:36 AM: Quote from: sovrain on Apr 13, 2012 at 02:32 PM
thanks for the suggestion sir, iniisip ko nga kung paano ikabit, alangan namang stapler ;D double face adhesive siguro baka ok....kya lang, kaya pa rin ngatngatin ng bubwit yung cloth...may Tom naman sa bahay, kaya lang, baka maisahan ni jerry ;D ;D

maglagay ka na lang ng mouse trap sa paligid ng speakers :P actually mas maganda ata yung wire mesh (yung medyo malaki ang butas) para matibay kaso di ko lang alam pano ilalagay without scratching the speakers, bago pa naman ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: greatauror28 on May 11, 2013 at 05:35 AM: Guys, may deal sa Visions Electronics about Mission V 5.0 setup for only $499 plus tax.
Less $700 na daw yun sa original price, totoo ba?

And to add a sub sa series na un is only $199.

So basically, you'll have a Mission V 5.1 for roughly $700 = P29400 with tax.
Good deal na ba?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on May 11, 2013 at 07:05 PM: Quote from: greatauror28 on May 11, 2013 at 05:35 AM
Guys, may deal sa Visions Electronics about Mission V 5.0 setup for only $499 plus tax.
Less $700 na daw yun sa original price, totoo ba?

And to add a sub sa series na un is only $199.

So basically, you'll have a Mission V 5.1 for roughly $700 = P29400 with tax.
Good deal na ba?
compare mo ditto brader, local prices and do little bit of math....http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,155744.0.html
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Lynn on Jul 16, 2013 at 10:28 PM: owner din ako dito ng MX4, tagal nya break in as in, sa una medyo dark yun signature nya, hindi ako nalalambingan, pero sa Low's hindi bintin, then after ng mga 40hrs, ayun medyo nagbabago na sya...
ang ganda na nya, magandang soundstage, malinis na separation at bilog na low's... ill try naman mx3 sabi kasi nila mas balanse sya...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Lynn on Jul 29, 2013 at 04:00 AM: Just got the Mission MX3, first booth up ganda na agad... naku paano pa kpag burn in na...
kaya pla 5star ito and ang against lang yun pwesto ng binding post...

Side by side sa Tannoy V4 - Day and Night
Side by side sa PSB T5 - kulang lang sa attack ng low's pero kaya humabol

mukhang tatagal sa aking ito Floorstand... :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jib2000 on Feb 09, 2014 at 01:37 AM: Hello po mga mission mx owner. Kamustahin ko lang.po mga mx4 speakers nyo wala ba naging problema sa tunog? Di ba kayo nagsisisi sa mission kasi im planning to buy sana un mx4 sabay ko sila nadinig ng psb image t5 and paradigm monitor 7 and di ko sure kung ano mas ok. Please help naman po mga sir.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sientobente on Feb 09, 2014 at 03:58 PM: ^ it is better to trust your ears sir. Kasi kayo din gagamit niyan. Parehong warm sounding yung psb and mission, but for me nakukulangan ako sa hf extension ng mission. Yung digms naman leans toward the brighter side which isn't really my cup of tea. Well these are just my own opinion, and they may be different from yours. All 3 brands are carried by What Hifi, you can do a side by side comparison to be able to really know what you'd really like.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Feb 09, 2014 at 09:18 PM: Quote from: jib2000 on Feb 09, 2014 at 01:37 AM
Hello po mga mission mx owner. Kamustahin ko lang.po mga mx4 speakers nyo wala ba naging problema sa tunog? Di ba kayo nagsisisi sa mission kasi im planning to buy sana un mx4 sabay ko sila nadinig ng psb image t5 and paradigm monitor 7 and di ko sure kung ano mas ok. Please help naman po mga sir.
pakinggan mo ulit, pero hwag sabay, kagulo talaga kung sabay, he he he, joke.....balikan mo ulit sila, ask the seller for an AB test, yung tipong switch bigla from speaker A to speaker B...may ma differentiate ka naman siguro kapag ganun, kung alin ang mas type mo ang tunog, yun na....I'm an mx5 owner, and very happy with them driven by marantz...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jib2000 on Feb 10, 2014 at 01:19 AM: Thanks mga sir. Nangibabaw kasi sakin un mission mx4 kaysa sa psb and paradigm kaya lang gusto ko lang malaman kung ano comment ng mga.guro para di ako mag sisi sa bibilin ko kasi baka pag matagal na ako nagsound baka bigla ako magsawa sa tunog nya pero at that time montik ko na bilin mx4 nag dalawang.isip lang ako kasi baka may mas maganda pa na same pricerange. Thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jib2000 on Feb 12, 2014 at 07:21 PM: Quote from: hshaun05 on Jul 29, 2013 at 04:00 AM
Just got the Mission MX3, first booth up ganda na agad... naku paano pa kpag burn in na...
kaya pla 5star ito and ang against lang yun pwesto ng binding post...

Side by side sa Tannoy V4 - Day and Night
Side by side sa PSB T5 - kulang lang sa attack ng low's pero kaya humabol

mukhang tatagal sa aking ito Floorstand... :)

Sir are you saying na mas ok sound ng PSB t5 kaysa sa MX3? how about comparing it with MX4?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Feb 13, 2014 at 06:32 PM: MX4 got better mid's. Done alot of Mission MX series for clients. Hands down for these speakers.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Feb 13, 2014 at 06:41 PM: Try to remove the cover guys, it'll look better. Medyo mahirap lang sya tanggalin but once nag snap out na yun isang part, you can easily pull them out na. O0

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/Pure_1600/1014406_673758652665912_1580196258_n_zpsc903164f.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/Pure_1600/media/1014406_673758652665912_1580196258_n_zpsc903164f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Feb 13, 2014 at 08:31 PM: Quote from: tein on Feb 13, 2014 at 06:41 PM
Try to remove the cover guys, it'll look better. Medyo mahirap lang sya tanggalin but once nag snap out na yun isang part, you can easily pull them out na. O0

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/Pure_1600/1014406_673758652665912_1580196258_n_zpsc903164f.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/Pure_1600/media/1014406_673758652665912_1580196258_n_zpsc903164f.jpg.html)
nasubukan ko ng minsan tinanggal ang mga grills to clean them, nag aalala lang ako na baka mabalian ng spikes, kaya di ko na inulit, he he he.....ganyan pala itsura....
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Feb 14, 2014 at 11:44 AM: Quote from: sovrain on Feb 13, 2014 at 08:31 PM
nasubukan ko ng minsan tinanggal ang mga grills to clean them, nag aalala lang ako na baka mabalian ng spikes, kaya di ko na inulit, he he he.....ganyan pala itsura....

Hehe dapat slowly sa pag tangal, masyado sya masikip sir Albert eh :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 16, 2014 at 07:07 PM: Up for this, as I'm now considering the MX3 + matching center. For those who got the MX3 or MX4, what center speakers did you get - MXC1, MXC2 or MXC3?

p.s. I started this thread nearly 12 years ago, when I was first considering buying Missions. I ended up getting the M73 :D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Feb 16, 2014 at 09:40 PM: ^get the biggest of them all, hinayang nga ako e, when I got my center, di pa lumalabas yang mxc3, so I settled for the mxc2, yang center speaker kasi, para sa akin, is the workhorse among the speakers(except sub) in terms of movies,......para gusto ko ngang palitan yung center ko e into c3 >:D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Feb 17, 2014 at 03:50 PM: MXc2 ok na for MX3, if space permits, MXc3 center ok din kaso malaki ito Ms.Meg ;)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Feb 17, 2014 at 04:10 PM: Paul pwede trade in c2 to c3 >:D >:D parang brand new pa c2 ko, wala na nga lang yata yung box, he he
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Feb 17, 2014 at 04:28 PM: Quote from: sovrain on Feb 17, 2014 at 04:10 PM
Paul pwede trade in c2 to c3 >:D >:D parang brand new pa c2 ko, wala na nga lang yata yung box, he he

Ay sorry sir Albert can't trade in :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Feb 17, 2014 at 05:00 PM: Quote from: tein on Feb 17, 2014 at 04:28 PM
Ay sorry sir Albert can't trade in :)
ok sir paul, I understand....thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jib2000 on Feb 19, 2014 at 04:53 PM: Quote from: sovrain on Feb 16, 2014 at 09:40 PM
^get the biggest of them all, hinayang nga ako e, when I got my center, di pa lumalabas yang mxc3, so I settled for the mxc2, yang center speaker kasi, para sa akin, is the workhorse among the speakers(except sub) in terms of movies,......para gusto ko ngang palitan yung center ko e into c3 >:D

Hi, just want to know why you want the mxc3, is there any issue with the mxc2? bitin ba sa vocals? just asking because im planning to get mx4 and mxc2 and gusto ko lang maka siguro na tama bibilin ko. thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Feb 19, 2014 at 07:25 PM: Quote from: jib2000 on Feb 19, 2014 at 04:53 PM
Hi, just want to know why you want the mxc3, is there any issue with the mxc2? bitin ba sa vocals? just asking because im planning to get mx4 and mxc2 and gusto ko lang maka siguro na tama bibilin ko. thanks

Mxc2 malakas yan sir, make sure proper calibration lang. Built alot of MX series using MXc2, no prob at all bro. If space permits, si MXc3 mahaba na sir,
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jib2000 on Feb 19, 2014 at 08:31 PM: Quote from: tein on Feb 19, 2014 at 07:25 PM
Mxc2 malakas yan sir, make sure proper calibration lang. Built alot of MX series using MXc2, no prob at all bro. If space permits, si MXc3 mahaba na sir,

san po store nyo sir and please pm me best price nyo for mx4 and mxc2 card price for 12 months po thanks.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Feb 19, 2014 at 09:51 PM: Quote from: jib2000 on Feb 19, 2014 at 04:53 PM
Hi, just want to know why you want the mxc3, is there any issue with the mxc2? bitin ba sa vocals? just asking because im planning to get mx4 and mxc2 and gusto ko lang maka siguro na tama bibilin ko. thanks
wala namang problema sa mxc2, malakas nga sya, hindi sya bitin, naiisip ko lang kasi na ang center, IMO, may pinakamaraming trabaho, in terms of movies, ....parang naawa lang ako, lalo na kapag barilan ang scene.....siguro, naiisip ko lang, kung c3 ang gamit, mas malakas, mas mababa ang volume
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jib2000 on Feb 20, 2014 at 12:29 AM: Quote from: HiFi FreQs on Feb 19, 2014 at 11:04 PM
Sisingit lang po mga bro, mission speakers check nyo rin po www.hififreqs.webs.com. Cheers po!

Please pm me your best price for MX4 and mxc2 cash and card price for 12 months. thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Feb 20, 2014 at 09:20 AM: Quote from: jib2000 on Feb 19, 2014 at 08:31 PM
san po store nyo sir and please pm me best price nyo for mx4 and mxc2 card price for 12 months po thanks.
If I may....eto bro jib
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,155744.0.html

madalng kausap yang si paul aka tein...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on May 27, 2014 at 02:10 PM: A good read to those who are eyeing for the Mission MX Series Speakers,

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/Pure_1600/MissionMX5_WHF_May2011_zps104bdf84.jpeg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/Pure_1600/media/MissionMX5_WHF_May2011_zps104bdf84.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on May 29, 2014 at 02:44 PM: 5/29/14

New Toys :D

*Covers removed. Indeed they look so good without them O0

Mission MX5
Mission MXc3
Mission MX2

YEAP, i have no Sub, Don't need one :)

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/Pure_1600/10364121_733891513319292_962366156813943440_n_zps5026f8bf.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/Pure_1600/media/10364121_733891513319292_962366156813943440_n_zps5026f8bf.jpg.html)

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/Pure_1600/10341414_733891466652630_4611532182670823411_n_zps75bf09b9.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/Pure_1600/media/10341414_733891466652630_4611532182670823411_n_zps75bf09b9.jpg.html)

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/Pure_1600/10306760_733891489985961_6386522214524533157_n_zpsa3c6bf46.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/Pure_1600/media/10306760_733891489985961_6386522214524533157_n_zpsa3c6bf46.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: dimple_guy0619 on Jul 01, 2014 at 06:55 AM: how much mission mx5 flr standing speakers?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Jul 01, 2014 at 03:47 PM: Quote from: dimple_guy0619 on Jul 01, 2014 at 06:55 AM
how much mission mx5 flr standing speakers?

48,000srp

PM for discounts
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: easydeal on Jul 06, 2014 at 09:39 PM: hi guys. am thinking of setting up my home theatre with the ff:
- MV8 for front
- MVC for center
- MV4 for surround

AVR will most likely be a Yamaha RX-V377 100W per channel, 5.1 unit.
I have an old M&K VX12 with 12-inch, 100W subwoofer to supplement the system.
Entertainment area is only 13sqm but behind it is an open dining area and kitchen, totalling an open area of 50sqm

Will this be a good setup? If not, can you recommend a better one in the same price range of P26k? I noticed during speaker testing that the tone shifts from front (MV8) to center (MVC) and front to rear (MV4)? Is this setup really matched for each other? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Jul 11, 2014 at 02:35 AM: You want an honest opinion? I don't suggest the MV Series. Might aswell spens your 26k sa MX3 fronts muna. 2ch setup ka muna, build them slow, then to follow and center and rear.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: easydeal on Jul 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM: Thank you very much for the advise. I also found out that the MV Series has been discontinued by Mission. It was a nice option for the budget I have, as other brands can only offer bookshelf speakers for the fronts. I guess its back to the drawing boards. Will try to audition the MX and also other brands (ie. Q-Acoustics, Monitor Audio, Polk Audio).
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Jul 11, 2014 at 01:05 PM: Quote from: easydeal on Jul 11, 2014 at 12:54 PM
Thank you very much for the advise. I also found out that the MV Series has been discontinued by Mission. It was a nice option for the budget I have, as other brands can only offer bookshelf speakers for the fronts. I guess its back to the drawing boards. Will try to audition the MX and also other brands (ie. Q-Acoustics, Monitor Audio, Polk Audio).

Copy sir, enjoy auditioning
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: easydeal on Jul 13, 2014 at 07:15 AM: May I ask if the MX3 is enough for a 16sqm listening area in 50sqm total open area?
Also, is the Yamaha RX-V475 a good match for Mission's MX3,MXC1,MXS Series?

As an option, I am now looking at the ff. setup MX3 for front and MXC1 for center, located 9-12 ft away from the sofa. MXS for rear, located immediately behind the sofa. Note that there is a dining area and kitchen behind the living area without walls in between.

In the search for a nice 5.1 setup for my home, I realized that the RX-V377 is not yet available in the Philippines. I have contacted Yamaha in the U.S. and they only have 110v models, unlike the 110/220v models that are shipped internationally. Hence, I am now looking at the RX-V475 with . . .
- 115 W per channel (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.9% THD, 1 ch driven)
- 80 W per channel (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, 0.09% THD, 2 ch driven)
While I won't have the CINEMA FRONT feature (which allows placement of the surround speakers in front ... like a soundbar), at least I won't have to wait and also get warranty.

Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: easydeal on Jul 19, 2014 at 06:27 AM: Seems this thread has been abandoned. Anyway, after auditioning the MX3, MX4, Polk TSx and a few more, I decided to get Monitor Audio's very new MR4, MRC, MR1 set. It perfectly fits my listening taste ... bright on movies and warm vocals on audio, when coupled with Yamaha RX-V receiver ... plus crystal clear mid/highs and good thumping bass.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Jul 20, 2014 at 01:59 PM: ^congrats brader....
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: easydeal on Jul 26, 2014 at 05:11 AM: thank you, sovrain. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on May 06, 2015 at 02:49 PM: ★ MISSION VX SERIES SPEAKERS ★

►Mission VX-4 (Floorstander) - P24,900
►Mission VX-3 (Floorstander) - P19,900
►Mission VX-2 (Bookshelf) - P10,500
►Mission VX-1 (Bookshelf) - P8,500
►Misison VX-S (Bookshelf) - P7,500
►Mission VX-C (Center) - P5,900

http://www.mission.co.uk/product.php?cid=2

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/Pure_1600/Pure_1600178/Untitled_zps4pouvxpn.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/Pure_1600/media/Pure_1600178/Untitled_zps4pouvxpn.jpg.html)

★ MISSION MX SERIES SPEAKERS ★

►MISSION MX6 (Floorstander) - P47,000
►MISSION MX5 (Floorstander) - P41,000
►MISSION MX4 (Floorstander) - P33,000
►MISSION MX3 (Floorstander) - P24,000
►MISSION MX2 (Bookshelf) - P15,000
►MISSION MX1 (Bookshelf) - P12,000
►MISSION MXs (Bookshelf) - P9,000
►MISSION MXc3 (Center) -
►MISSION MXc2 (Center) - P12,500
►MISSION MXc1 (Center) - P9,500

http://www.mission.co.uk/product.php?cid=5

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/Pure_1600/1014406_673758652665912_1580196258_n_zpsc903164f.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/Pure_1600/media/1014406_673758652665912_1580196258_n_zpsc903164f.jpg.html)

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/Pure_1600/1387791759_568513520_7-Brand-new-MISSION-MX-3-tower-speakers-with-center-surround-and-sub-woofer-fo-sale--India_zpsa9594898.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/Pure_1600/media/1387791759_568513520_7-Brand-new-MISSION-MX-3-tower-speakers-with-center-surround-and-sub-woofer-fo-sale--India_zpsa9594898.jpg.html)

★ MISSION SX SERIES SPEAKERS ★

Colors : Rosewood / Veneer

Mission SX5 (Floorstander) - P116,000
Mission SX4 (Floorstander) - P107,000
Mission SX3 (Floorstander) - P88,000
Mission SX2 (Bookshelf) - P49,000
Mission SX1 (Bookshelf) - P42,000
Mission SXC2 (Center) - P42,000
Mission SXC1 (Center) - P30,000

http://www.mission.co.uk/product.php?cid=3

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/Pure_1600/Pure_1600178/Mission-SX-Series_zpsdijjl15y.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/user/Pure_1600/media/Pure_1600178/Mission-SX-Series_zpsdijjl15y.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on May 06, 2015 at 02:50 PM: UPDATE on Mission Speakers!

VX / MX / SX Series now available!

Price Update on MX Series. Now more affordable!
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: gutierrez on Jul 08, 2015 at 10:46 AM: Planning to upgrade my center and fronts to MX. Is M74 to MX4 an upgrade or just a sidegrade?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: fireproofjat on Jul 15, 2015 at 08:48 AM: Hello gurus!

Any feedback on the VX series? Haven't found any reviews on the web.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: ::Betamax:: on Aug 28, 2015 at 03:19 PM: Quote from: fireproofjat on Jul 15, 2015 at 08:48 AM
Hello gurus!

Any feedback on the VX series? Haven't found any reviews on the web.

up, same question.. planning to get this din.. thanks
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Aug 29, 2015 at 02:26 PM: Quote from: ::Betamax:: on Aug 28, 2015 at 03:19 PM
up, same question.. planning to get this din.. thanks

Comparable to Infinity Primus but a bit warmer pa.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: mhacman on Sep 10, 2015 at 01:24 AM: Quote from: fireproofjat on Jul 15, 2015 at 08:48 AM
Hello gurus!
Any feedback on the VX series? Haven't found any reviews on the web.
Quote from: tein on Aug 29, 2015 at 02:26 PM
Comparable to Infinity Primus but a bit warmer pa.

hi sir tein, if it's a bit warmer, does it mean it's better? VX is the most affordable in Mission series..

TIA
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Sep 21, 2015 at 05:16 PM: Quote from: mhacman on Sep 10, 2015 at 01:24 AM
hi sir tein, if it's a bit warmer, does it mean it's better? VX is the most affordable in Mission series..

TIA

It actually depends on the clients listening preference sir, it doesn't necessarily mean it sounds better but its flatter.. I can't personally say it sounds bad, ako kasi i prefer flat sounding speakers kasi I tend to watch movie at high volume talaga :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: zram18 on Nov 15, 2015 at 12:43 PM: warmer means a bit more on the bass side, brighter means a bit more on the treble side.

but warmer speakers does not always be on the better side,because better sound quality depends on your personal preference, amp used for mixing and matching amp and speakers, room size, source, room acoustics, wires used, and so much more. :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: luis on Nov 16, 2015 at 01:47 PM: it's only the MX series that were displayed yesterday at the hi-fi show. was looking for the sx series, heard it once and was impressed, sexy curve pa. ;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: zram18 on Nov 16, 2015 at 06:07 PM: yup, mx series and the entry level vx series were presented at the hifi show c/o soundconcepts.

but no sx series which is their high end level. i dont know the reason why considering that their competitors are exhibiting their own high end speakers pero sa Mission baliktad, entry level at mid level lang.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: stockHT on Jan 03, 2016 at 09:32 AM: quick question! I have MX3... Paano ko ibibiwire to?

1. Kailangan ko ba tangalin yung plate sa speaker terminals?
2. Or Dahil dun sa plate na yun eh automatic na biwire na sya?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: luis on Jan 03, 2016 at 10:43 AM: Good am.

You have to remove the plate and connect a speaker wire for bi wire (2 is to 4 terminal/plugs).

You can google. Good luck sir.

;D
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: gutierrez on Mar 03, 2016 at 05:16 PM: I need help from MX users here. I recently bought an MX5 fronts and planning to use an MXC3 center, unfortunately I cant find one. Distributor said that they may no longer bring that variant here. Do you think the MXC2 can work with the MX5 or it would not be able to catch up?

As much as possible, I want to maximize the MX5 and I even bought a power amp to ensure that I have all the power that speaker needs.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Mar 04, 2016 at 03:06 PM: Quote from: gutierrez on Mar 03, 2016 at 05:16 PM
I need help from MX users here. I recently bought an MX5 fronts and planning to use an MXC3 center, unfortunately I cant find one. Distributor said that they may no longer bring that variant here. Do you think the MXC2 can work with the MX5 or it would not be able to catch up?

As much as possible, I want to maximize the MX5 and I even bought a power amp to ensure that I have all the power that speaker needs.

MXC2 will work, ever since nun wala pa yung MXc3 si mxc2 lage gamit sir..
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: sovrain on Mar 04, 2016 at 04:27 PM: Quote from: gutierrez on Mar 03, 2016 at 05:16 PM
Do you think the MXC2 can work with the MX5 or it would not be able to catch up?
wala naman problema, if you mean the mx5 is too powerful to compliment with the mxc2. Lalo na if you calibrate siguro, match lang sila...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: gutierrez on Mar 05, 2016 at 03:05 PM: Quote from: tein on Mar 04, 2016 at 03:06 PM
MXC2 will work, ever since nun wala pa yung MXc3 si mxc2 lage gamit sir..

Benta mo na lang MXC3 mo sakin
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Mar 15, 2016 at 01:27 PM: Quote from: gutierrez on Mar 05, 2016 at 03:05 PM
Benta mo na lang MXC3 mo sakin

Haha sorry sir sobra hirap na hanapin nito :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Oct 12, 2016 at 05:35 AM: Here in NZ, almost all speakers and receivers are in black color.

I'm glad I finally manage to find and buy these silver M70's set here. I like them very much combined with KEF eggs and Yamaha amp. I used to have the same in Singapore but had to sell before moving here.

(http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plusw/518369286.jpg)

Now I'm back in rebuilding my HT setup ...
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: stockHT on Nov 22, 2016 at 03:11 PM: Quote from: tein on Mar 04, 2016 at 03:06 PM
MXC2 will work, ever since nun wala pa yung MXc3 si mxc2 lage gamit sir..

magkano MXc2 now adays?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: cal0y on Nov 24, 2016 at 09:57 AM: Quote from: gutierrez on Mar 03, 2016 at 05:16 PM
I need help from MX users here. I recently bought an MX5 fronts and planning to use an MXC3 center, unfortunately I cant find one. Distributor said that they may no longer bring that variant here. Do you think the MXC2 can work with the MX5 or it would not be able to catch up?

As much as possible, I want to maximize the MX5 and I even bought a power amp to ensure that I have all the power that speaker needs.

Have you tried watts hifi sa makati cinema square sir?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tein on Nov 24, 2016 at 04:35 PM: Quote from: cal0y on Nov 24, 2016 at 09:57 AM
Have you tried watts hifi sa makati cinema square sir?

Wala na yan sir, got the last piece for myself 2 years ago :)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: jackryan on Dec 05, 2016 at 09:09 AM: just in case you may find this useful --- http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,204843.0.html
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: Conan on Nov 26, 2017 at 12:14 AM: I just borrowed these speakers for home audition, Mission LX-2. If you thought that the previous MX series was good, these compact speakers are way better!

(https://i.imgur.com/ijdJ5yMl.jpg)

Bass is really good for the relatively small size (reaches 40 hz in my room) and the tweeter has really nice highs that are not bright to listen to! They will match/outperform other bookshelf speakers that are much more expensive in my opinion! They are award winners at What Hifi:

https://www.whathifi.com/mission/lx-2/review (https://www.whathifi.com/mission/lx-2/review)
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tacquio on Apr 18, 2018 at 07:37 AM: What's the best amplifier for Mission speakers. I just recently bought a pair of second hand M73, wanted to build my simple HT from here. I'm looking for a second hand Pioneer from the market section, will they click?
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: gutierrez on Apr 18, 2018 at 07:52 AM: onkyo
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: JT on Apr 18, 2018 at 10:14 AM: Quote from: tacquio on Apr 18, 2018 at 07:37 AM
What's the best amplifier for Mission speakers. I just recently bought a pair of second hand M73, wanted to build my simple HT from here. I'm looking for a second hand Pioneer from the market section, will they click?

Use at least mid-range amps. If more on movies, Yamaha. For Music, use Marantz. I'm currently using Mission M7C2 & M70 as fronts and KEF Eggs as rears.

I tried from Onkyo, Yamaha and now using Marantz SR5003.
Title: Re: Mission speakers
Post by: tacquio on Apr 18, 2018 at 11:03 AM: Quote from: JT on Apr 18, 2018 at 10:14 AM
Use at least mid-range amps. If more on movies, Yamaha. For Music, use Marantz. I'm currently using Mission M7C2 & M70 as fronts and KEF Eggs as rears.

I tried from Onkyo, Yamaha and now using Marantz SR5003.

Okay thanks, will keep these in mind.