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Title: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Alfie on Oct 29, 2001 at 10:48 PM
Pioneer VSX 810 the 160 watts DD,DTS es with 6.1 channels,3IOP &1 coxial inputs and a coaxial and IOP output for digital recording is now available in the market. The going rate at the BPI Madness being held at the Glorietta square is Php 22,900.00.
The price is expected to be lower at other electronic shops within the Manila area.
So far the next amplifier with the same stats hover around Php 88,000 and steeply goes up to Php 125,000.00 for the THX certified.
Title: Re: Pioneer DTS-ES Cheapest in the Market
Post by: FASTBACK on Mar 09, 2002 at 11:34 PM
Good point there Alfie I auditioned this amp in one of the appliances stores sounds OK and the price compared to other brands with the same features is big.

I don't know why pioneer seems to have fallen from or lag behind in this category, I remember in 1990's pioneer had a good reputation when it comes to HT.
Title: Re:Pioneer DTS-ES Cheapest in the Market
Post by: Alfie on Apr 18, 2002 at 09:03 AM
Bumping for those interested in the cheapest 6.1 DTS-ES in the market.
Title: Re:Pioneer DTS-ES Cheapest in the Market
Post by: Titanium on Apr 18, 2002 at 09:11 AM
Thanks Alfie, Ill try to canvass the latest price now and Ill post it later for everybodys info.
Title: Re:Pioneer DTS-ES Cheapest in the Market
Post by: MeowPao on Apr 18, 2002 at 11:09 AM
Guys,

Correct me if I'm wrong but whenever I read the Pioneer flyer, its states the power as MAXIMUM watts.

Diba one should look at the NOMINAL watts because this is what is produced constantly, while Maximum watts is only reached infrequently?  ???
Title: Re:Pioneer DTS-ES Cheapest in the Market
Post by: cybermms on Apr 18, 2002 at 09:08 PM
I think different brands use different standards such as EIAJ, DIN, PMPO for mini-compos (yuk!!),etc. Its all about marketing hype.

I always look for the RMS (is this the same as nominal power output?)

cybermms


Guys,

Correct me if I'm wrong but whenever I read the Pioneer flyer, its states the power as MAXIMUM watts.

Diba one should look at the NOMINAL watts because this is what is produced constantly, while Maximum watts is only reached infrequently?  ???
Title: Re:Pioneer DTS-ES Cheapest in the Market
Post by: utoy on Apr 19, 2002 at 11:52 AM

I think different brands use different standards such as EIAJ, DIN, PMPO for mini-compos (yuk!!),etc. Its all about marketing hype.

I always look for the RMS (is this the same as nominal power output?)

cybermms


What's up with the "yuk!!"? You have a thing against mini-compos?
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: levi on Jul 13, 2002 at 10:57 PM
Reposting

hi guys!

need a quote for these Pioneer receivers: VSX-D411, VSX-D511 & VSX-D711. all are 100W X 5, DPL2, DTS & DD

also, has anyone auditioned for them? what's their performance?  :)

Alfie,

   I edited your title. Thanks

Levi
Title: pioneer receiver
Post by: bunkieboy on Sep 17, 2002 at 07:17 PM
does anyone know how good the pioneer vsx-859tx receiver is? i heard  its a thx ultra. is it even comparable to a denon 2802 or 1802?

Title: Re:pioneer receiver
Post by: bently on Sep 18, 2002 at 01:28 AM
welcome to the forum bunkieboy

i found this review on Pioneer's VSX-859RDS  (http://www.homecinemachoice.com/testbench/frame.html?http://www.homecinemachoice.com/testbench/Amplifiers/Pioneer/PioneerVSX-859RDS.shtml) w/c is  THX SELECT APPROVED


just not sure if this is the model your looking for

:)
bently
Title: Re:pioneer receiver
Post by: bunkieboy on Sep 18, 2002 at 10:06 AM
thanks bro. i aint too sure if its the same. i will check the site you suggested. thanks again.

anyone else ahve any insights?
Title: Re:pioneer receiver
Post by: john5479 on Sep 24, 2002 at 02:56 AM
ok for movies bad for stereo  ;)
Title: Re:pioneer receiver
Post by: betong77 on Sep 26, 2002 at 06:52 PM
 ???THX Surround EX DTS-ES (Compatible) DTS-ES (Compatible) DTS Digital Surround

 bro im also planning to buy this item but check this site for more info !!!! http://www.audioreview.com/PRD_125329_2718crx.aspx

Title: Re:pioneer receiver
Post by: bunkieboy on Oct 08, 2002 at 09:33 PM
???THX Surround EX DTS-ES (Compatible) DTS-ES (Compatible) DTS Digital Surround

 bro im also planning to buy this item but check this site for more info !!!! http://www.audioreview.com/PRD_125329_2718crx.aspx



compatible i think means that if you attach another amp (any 2 way type) you can get es or ex effects
Title: pioneer receiver?
Post by: betong77 on Oct 26, 2002 at 11:23 PM
just wanted some feedback and sugestion which is good receiver  VSX-D859TXG or VSX-908RDS?


thanks,
betong
Title: Re:pioneer receiver?
Post by: bunkieboy on Oct 27, 2002 at 09:31 PM
i know someone who uses the 859txg. its a really good amp for movies. my friend matched it with b&w 600 speakers (series 1), good sound. very impressive amp.

at that price though i would suggest a yamaha or the entry level denons or onkyos though  ;)

try giving hyperaudio or stuazon a call
Title: Re:pioneer receiver?
Post by: rmpmla on Oct 27, 2002 at 11:10 PM
i  am using a VSX-D908TX  ( 908rds is a european version? ) and so far, OK naman siya for my HT set up.

the VSX-908TX i bought is " made in japan ". i have inspected the rear panel of the the 859 txg displayed on store and the label says  " made in indonesia " or  is it malaysia?

i have not tried or audition the 859txg but used to have a VSX-D701 ( also made in indonesia ) and boast a higher power output than the 908Tx. in actual use, mahina yung indonesian made pioneer VSX-D701  AVR.

so, i guess, you might get same result.

also, the price may indicate that the 908tx is well crafted  since it cost more than the 859txg.

try calling up sonny tuazon. i got my used 908tx unit from him at a very good price.
 :)
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: betong77 on Oct 29, 2002 at 04:36 PM
mga bro thanks for the info i tried comparing both sa makati square 908rds price 25k and i had bought yesterday a 859txg together w/ wharfedale 8.4 as front,8.2 for rear and center as well hope my set up is good thanks to all,till next questions !!! salamat po !!!

betong77
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: bunkieboy on Oct 30, 2002 at 10:23 AM
Nice HT setup :)  you wont be disapponted. i have a friend who also uses diamonds. i believe they are a good match to your amp
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: kimera on Nov 04, 2002 at 12:46 AM
is the d810 one and the same with the europe's D811?

http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/product_detail.jsp?product_id=1571&taxonomy_id=62-98

how does it compare to marantz sr5200?

tnx,


Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Philander on Nov 04, 2002 at 01:58 PM
is the d810 one and the same with the europe's D811?

http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/product_detail.jsp?product_id=1571&taxonomy_id=62-98

how does it compare to marantz sr5200?

tnx,


Almost the same in terms of specifications, however the 810 doesn't have have prologic II, DTS-ES Discrete, Dolby Digital EX, and DTS-Neo:6 only Dolby Digital, DTS and Pro-Logic.
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Mar 11, 2003 at 08:41 AM
m using the pioneer vsxd811s-s. hooked in its 7.1 speaker outs are my old local speakers and a custom-made sub of NIRVKLAR. Sabi ko non kulang sa highs pero when NIRVKLAR hooked his custom-made speakers on it, i have nothin more to ask.

For a gripe however, the bass signal of the pioneer vsxd811s-s appears unrefined as compared to the denons, onkyos or the yammies. When i ordered the sub from NIRVKLAR, pinili talaga nila yong ampli that would match perfectly with it.
Title: Pioneer A/V Receiver
Post by: dolby on Aug 26, 2003 at 03:58 PM
okey din ba ang pioneer na receiver? mas mura kasi compare sa ibang brand.

suggest naman kayo kung ang model na maganda.


Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Aug 27, 2003 at 07:56 AM
m using the pioneer vsxd811s-s and im quite satisfied with its performance bro other that the comments i made earlier. With its features, i have nothing more to say. So far, m really enjoyin the receivers ability to make a 5.1 disk into a 6.1 that means additional surrounds. speaking of its power it has an awesome 120 x 6 at 8ohms. it really matches my requirements.

They say the pioneer is a lil bit BRIGHT, but thats the way i like it. maybe that depends on the the kind of music u go into. for movies i really wanna hear the high tones and effects of crushing cars and loud discharge of guns. NIRVBLAKR commented that it has a problem on its LFE channel na medyo not so filtered. i really dont know if this is true to all pioneer receivers. However when NIRVBLAKR found the right ampli for the sub  i ordered from him, all i can say now is AWESOME--  ;D
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: gee on Oct 04, 2003 at 06:38 PM
guys, give ur opinions naman o... ;D

im currently using a pioneer receiver (VSX-D608) with 5 yamaha speakers and a yamaha subs... this is my problem, the room is around  7x2 meters and the surround speakers are mounted on the walls at the back (way back from the listening position...) since we have already laid/concealed  the speaker wires for the surround speakers in the cieling, we are planning to retain this setup. instead we would like to buy another pair of surround speakers which we will position more closer to the listening area.

question: what will be the effect if i just tap the new wires together with the existing surround speakers in the receiver? will that affect the staging of sounds? or will it be better to unmount my current surround speakers and reposition it instead? ::)

thanks! :)
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: garfield03 on Oct 04, 2003 at 11:47 PM
Hi! Someone selling a D511s. Will it be compatible with my setup? Im just using Crown Speaker Front and a USAudio CENTER with a Pioneer Active Sub. Also a Pioneer Speaker that comes with my component as REAR.

Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Philander on Oct 06, 2003 at 08:54 AM
guys, give ur opinions naman o... ;D

im currently using a pioneer receiver (VSX-D608) with 5 yamaha speakers and a yamaha subs... this is my problem, the room is around  7x2 meters and the surround speakers are mounted on the walls at the back (way back from the listening position...) since we have already laid/concealed  the speaker wires for the surround speakers in the cieling, we are planning to retain this setup. instead we would like to buy another pair of surround speakers which we will position more closer to the listening area.

question: what will be the effect if i just tap the new wires together with the existing surround speakers in the receiver? will that affect the staging of sounds? or will it be better to unmount my current surround speakers and reposition it instead? ::)

thanks! :)

You mean you will add new set of surround speakers (so you have two sets of surround speakers that is connected to the surround terminal of the receiver)?
If so, this is not advisable.

We have a thread about speaker questions..
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Philander on Oct 06, 2003 at 08:56 AM
Hi! Someone selling a D511s. Will it be compatible with my setup? Im just using Crown Speaker Front and a USAudio CENTER with a Pioneer Active Sub. Also a Pioneer Speaker that comes with my component as REAR.



Just check the impedance rating of both speakers and receiver if they are match...
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nels76 on Nov 14, 2003 at 04:12 PM
Guys,

may nakita ako na Pioneer VSX-D812-S sa isang appliance center sa basement ng mega mall A.
I'm sure this is the successor to VSX-D811-S.

Napansin ko meron na siya MCACC. Just like HK's EZ Set. Priced at 22k+.
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: audi0slave on Nov 14, 2003 at 04:26 PM
Nice HT setup :)  you wont be disapponted. i have a friend who also uses diamonds. i believe they are a good match to your amp

I'm using Wharfedale 8.2s on my Pioneer A-405 integrated amp and they perfectly match well. You really need a high power amp in order to drive a low sensitivity speaker like the wharfes.. and Pioneer A-405 is just one of those amps which can make the Wharfes a musical and neutral sounding speakers...
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Nov 28, 2003 at 09:37 AM
From my experience, Pioneer looses its bass when we crank up the volume more than its 10o'clock position. Actually, it is written in their manual.  Previous AMPS/RCVR used were A-702R and VSX-D933S.  
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: losi_phile on Nov 28, 2003 at 01:06 PM
Pioneer VSX-D509S has been my AVR for more than a year now and I would say I enjoy using it both in HT and Stereo listening mode.  I'm using Wharfedale Diamond 8.3 as fronts, 8.1 as surrounds and 8C for center.  I haven't experience loss of bass even at -20db volume.  Maybe the problem with other Pioneer AVR users is speaker matching.  The Diamonds, in my opinion, is a good match for Pioneer.  In addition, I don't use my subwoofer when listening in stereo mode, the 8.3 bass is good enough for me.

If anyone is planning to buy a budget Pioneer AVR, I saw one unit (VSX-D511S) at Save On Surplus (SOS) shop selling at Php11,990, 110volts complete with box, manual and remote.  Contact number is 656-6666.
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: audi0slave on Nov 28, 2003 at 01:28 PM
I agree with you, losi_phile. With Diamond 8.2s on my Pioneer A-405, the bass control is fixed at 12 o'clock position and turning it more to the clock wise rotation would pump out more bass for which the 8.2s have difficulties in handling. Since the wharfe is kind of a little weak on the treble, I set my treble to its full stop at 5 o'clock position. So, I don't agree that Pioneer amps are weak on low frequency reproduction. They may not match well with the likes of Denons and HKs but for their overall performance - they're reasonably acceptable.  ;)
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Nov 28, 2003 at 03:42 PM
Its not that they are weak in low frequency reproduction.  Am just telling you that it looses its pump in bass when it reaches more than its 10 o'clock position.  I know for sure bec. its written in their manual. Remember, I use to own integrated amp A-702R model.  Sorry, forgot to mention that I uses JBL speakers like the CF-120 which has 96db and TLX-70 90db.
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: losi_phile on Nov 28, 2003 at 04:49 PM
Hi Audioslave,

My bass adjustment setting is dead 0db and my treble adjustment setting is +1db.  And I'm using CAT5 Ven Haus recipe speaker cables (27 pairs).  Maybe the speaker cables helps in the bass area, just my opinion.

losi_phile
Title: Pioneer VSX C501 Receiver
Post by: [r0n1n] on Feb 07, 2004 at 01:33 PM
guys i saw this new receiver from Pioneer model VSX C501. 6.1 na siya at very very slim but i cannot seem to find the complete specs. would anyone care to post the specs. thanks!  ;D
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Feb 09, 2004 at 08:23 AM
Guys,

may nakita ako na Pioneer VSX-D812-S sa isang appliance center sa basement ng mega mall A.
I'm sure this is the successor to VSX-D811-S.

Napansin ko meron na siya MCACC. Just like HK's EZ Set. Priced at 22k+.

i got the vsxd811s for 21K+ 2 yrs ago and if the vsx 812 is 22K + then it is already a very good buy. the only difference is that, the 812 has the MANUAL MCACC.

GEE- if u want to add another set of speakers for your surround, be sure that the combined impedance of your speakers will not be more than 16ohms nor lower than 8ohms.

if u will use 2 8ohms speakers for your surrounds, just connect the two on SERIES so u have 18 ohms, if you just connect  the speakers on parallel, u will get 4ohms load... and ur receiver cant take this. it will overload--  ;)
Title: Re:Pioneer VSX C501 Receiver
Post by: toshiba on Feb 10, 2004 at 01:28 AM
guys i saw this new receiver from Pioneer model VSX C501. 6.1 na siya at very very slim but i cannot seem to find the complete specs. would anyone care to post the specs. thanks!  ;D

http://www.servicecentertexel.nl/p295.html
Title: Re:Pioneer VSX C501 Receiver
Post by: UB40 on Feb 29, 2004 at 09:29 AM
guys i saw this new receiver from Pioneer model VSX C501. 6.1 na siya at very very slim but i cannot seem to find the complete specs. would anyone care to post the specs. thanks!  ;D

pards, where did you see this model? is it locally available?
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JT on Feb 29, 2004 at 11:38 AM
Im also eyeing for this one and prefer this over yammy 440 dahil slim at mas match sya sa 655a at sa mission speakers.

Here's the main specs:
(http://www.multimod.com/uk/images/pioneer/pioneer-vsx-c501-s.jpg)

Main features
-6x100W RMS Power Output
-Easy and precise Acoustic Calibration with Automatic Multi-Channel Acoustic Calibration System Set-Up
-SACD/DVD-Audio standard original sound technology
-Built-in DTS ES Matrix 6.1,DTS ES Discrete 6.1 and Dolby Digital EX
-SR+ interface
-Virtual Surround Back for reproducing 6.1-ch sources

http://www.multimod.com/uk/shop/612-pioneer-vsx-c501-s-receiver.html

Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Philander on Feb 29, 2004 at 08:04 PM
Can you post the back panel of this receiver.. it seems that you still need compatible connection to use the 5.1 analog input. I has 5.1 analog input through SCART. So basically you need converter (scart to RCA).. please confirm.
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Mar 02, 2004 at 12:40 PM
Im also eyeing for this one and prefer this over yammy 440 dahil slim at mas match sya sa 655a at sa mission speakers.

Here's the main specs:
(http://www.multimod.com/uk/images/pioneer/pioneer-vsx-c501-s.jpg)

Main features
-6x100W RMS Power Output
-Easy and precise Acoustic Calibration with Automatic Multi-Channel Acoustic Calibration System Set-Up
-SACD/DVD-Audio standard original sound technology
-Built-in DTS ES Matrix 6.1,DTS ES Discrete 6.1 and Dolby Digital EX
-SR+ interface
-Virtual Surround Back for reproducing 6.1-ch sources

http://www.multimod.com/uk/shop/612-pioneer-vsx-c501-s-receiver.html



This amp's rating is using the JETA standard for measurement, is overated and is quite candid in stating it has a 10% THD at rated output.  I commend them for their honesty, but I would look elsewhere for a good 100 watt receiver.  This THD spec is defintely not audiophile-grade at that power level.  Based on its slim profile, i would hazard a guess that it can only spew out 40 watts RMS at 8 ohms 20Hz-20KHz at a decent audiophile-grade 0.5% THD.  But that's just me talking.

P.S.

But if this unit has 5.1 pre-outs which it doesn't (only subwoofer pre-out), with its decoding features, it would make a good preamp matched to a more powerful multichannel power amp.
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Narayan on Mar 02, 2004 at 12:55 PM
guys,

saw last week at the listening room mega the new pioneer VSX 912. it also features the automatic calibration system and is is the editors' choice for AVRs at cnet. finish is titanium-in keeping with the present trend. very nice looking receiver.
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: audi0slave on Mar 02, 2004 at 03:29 PM
guys, anyone noticed the speaker terminals (not the spring type) of Pioneer receivers ? mukhang di kasya yung mga banana plugs no?

question lang to all Pioneer receiver owners out there.... ano ginagamit nyo as speaker connectors sa speaker terminals? bare wires lang?

 ::)
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: FASTBACK on Mar 15, 2004 at 12:49 AM
I own a Pioneer VSA-D6 AVR

I only use Bare wires connected to the Speaker terminals.
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: arthurallanj on Mar 15, 2004 at 11:47 AM
Actually, I've been contemplating on buying a Pioneer VSX-D812, kaya lang what bothers me is the 10%THD at 8 Ohms na rating. I like it kasi it has all the features I like, 6ch amplification, MCACC, 7 ch pre outs, etc, kaya lang the power rating nga. This made me look into the Yamaha DSP-AZ2. I have the DSP-AX430, they rate their amps at 0.02% THD at 6 Ohms. The Power issue is the only thing that's holding me back from buying the Pioneer amp.
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: losi_phile on Mar 15, 2004 at 03:04 PM
I have Pioneer VSX-D509S AVR and I'm using banana plugs to connect my front l/r and center speakers.  Sa surround and speaker b, clip-on type lang kaya gumawa ng adaptor para maging banana plug din (di kasi kasya gauge 12 sa clip-on terminal)
Title: Re:Pioneer VSX C501 Receiver
Post by: [r0n1n] on Mar 17, 2004 at 03:10 PM
pards, where did you see this model? is it locally available?

sir sorry for the late reply. i've seen this sa glorietta i think during the last bpi madness. hope you find one   ;D

toshiba/jt,
sir thanks for the specsand the link  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Feb 15, 2005 at 07:36 PM
i just acquired a pioneer vsx-d510.  any reviews about this avr?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Feb 16, 2005 at 11:09 AM
i just acquired a pioneer vsx-d510.  any reviews about this avr?

The VSX-D509 I know is good paired to wharfs diamond - yours might be similar if you use wharfs. What's your speaker?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Feb 16, 2005 at 06:05 PM
im using kenwood center and surround speakers. my main speakers are dai ichi ls-3, yung cube speakers. 

actually, ive 2 yammy floorstanders but they won't have a chance to fit in my cabinet so i need a good bookshelf.
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: taggart on Feb 16, 2005 at 11:01 PM
guys, anyone noticed the speaker terminals (not the spring type) of Pioneer receivers ? mukhang di kasya yung mga banana plugs no?

question lang to all Pioneer receiver owners out there.... ano ginagamit nyo as speaker connectors sa speaker terminals? bare wires lang?

 ::)

sir audioslave...yup, on my 1995 receiver, banana plugs won't fit kaya bare wires talaga.  a bit of a hassle but it's ok.
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Jun 07, 2005 at 08:53 AM
Actually, I've been contemplating on buying a Pioneer VSX-D812, kaya lang what bothers me is the 10%THD at 8 Ohms na rating. I like it kasi it has all the features I like, 6ch amplification, MCACC, 7 ch pre outs, etc, kaya lang the power rating nga. This made me look into the Yamaha DSP-AZ2. I have the DSP-AX430, they rate their amps at 0.02% THD at 6 Ohms. The Power issue is the only thing that's holding me back from buying the Pioneer amp.


Is this really 10% or 1%?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Jun 07, 2005 at 09:10 AM
Chanced upon this article in CNET Review:

"Full review
Pioneer's impressive, midpriced A/V receiver, dubbed the VSX-D811S, has pretty much everything that you need: the latest surround-processing technology, prodigious power reserves, plentiful connectivity options, and great sound.

Fully loaded
Pioneer positively stuffed the D811S with useful features and technology, but thanks to its nifty, flip-down front panel, the receiver's clean, unbroken lines bespeak a minimalist, high-end aesthetic. The flip-down door keeps most of the rarely used buttons, controls, and extensive front-panel-mounted A/V inputs out of sight. Surround-processing modes include Dolby Digital EX and DTS-ES Discrete to deliver six-channel sound for movies, along with Dolby Pro Logic II and DTS Neo:6 to synthesize natural-sounding surround from stereo sources such as CDs and radio. The D811S has six 100-watt-per-channel amplifiers.

The speaker outputs--which include hookups for a second room as well as a total of four surround speakers (two side and two rear) for the main room--use good-quality, binding-post connectors. The D811S also sports 7.1-channel input capability for Super Audio CD, DVD-Audio (DVD-A), and future multichannel formats; component-video switching, including two inputs and one output; and preamp outputs so that you can upgrade to a separate power amp. And Pioneer wasn't stingy with the digital-audio connections--we counted five inputs and one output. S-Video connections are also abundant. Only vinyl lovers' needs are unfulfilled by the D811S, as the receiver lacks a phono input.

The preprogrammed remote is fairly easy to use overall, and we appreciate the fact that Pioneer doesn't lump all Dolby/DTS surround and synthesized signal-processing modes together. That's cool because you can always get to standard Dolby/DTS with just one button click.

Since the D811S lacks an onscreen display, we expected to muddle our way through system setup. However, we found the procedure to be straightforward. Unusually, the D811S's subwoofer crossover can be adjusted to optimally blend with small, medium, or large satellites. Our review sample was finished in silver, but this Pioneer is also available in black.

Performance that you can feel
The best home-theater components deliver sound that truly adds a visceral kick to the experience of watching movies or listening to music. That's a tall order for a midpriced receiver, but the D811S--partnered with our Energy Take 5.2 satellites and Energy S8.2 subwoofer--was more than up to the job. We fully cranked up our favorite war flick, The Thin Red Line, but the D811S's power reserves were never close to being stressed. With 100 watts per channel on tap, we expected that kind of potency, but the receiver also had the ability to delve into the more subtle, ambient cues that populate the scene with John Travolta on the deck of a warship.

We trotted out a pile of DVD-A discs to fully exploit the D811S's highest fidelities, but it was Willie Nelson's smoky, all-instrumental Night and Day DVD that made us sit up and take notice. Nelson's tight, little band cooks up lush textures and full, rich harmonics from the jaunty fiddle, the piano, the bass, and the guitar. The surround mix is tasteful, and the sound quality is keenly balanced and natural.

Considering that the D811S costs just $475 (list) and has a street price as low as $299, this receiver is clearly one of the better deals out there. Its combination of features, performance, and value earn it an Editors' Choice award. "
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Jun 07, 2005 at 10:37 AM
Chanced upon this article in CNET Review:

Considering that the D811S costs just $475 (list) and has a street price as low as $299, this receiver is clearly one of the better deals out there. Its combination of features, performance, and value earn it an Editors' Choice award. "

Pioneer, properly paired with a matching speaker (like wharf's Diamond 8) is a cheap combo that can outperform many more expensive hyped receivers and speakers!  ;)

As usual, the cost has nothing to do with sonic performance!  :P  Much more, the paper specs is even a poor indicator of its sonic excellence.  :P  :P  :P

I've opened a VSX-D509S - gosh, ampaw  ??? , very few parts - but the sound with wharf 8.3, have not heard similar sound with the more expensive competitor.
Title: pioneer vsx-815-k or s good buy ba!?!
Post by: elvenears on Jan 23, 2006 at 07:15 PM
im buying one po sa mga meron at nakagamit na ok po ba to? ;D
Title: Re: pioneer vsx-815-k or s good buy ba!?!
Post by: Bogsle on Jan 23, 2006 at 10:21 PM
Pre, baka makatulong to:

http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/PioneerVSX-815ReceiverReview1.php

I've been through a couple of HT receivers already. Pag baguhan kasi, excited talaga.

Suggestion ko: wag ka mag madali. Most of the time we think of our budget for the HT setup. This is good and nothing is wrong with it.

In my experience however, mas mabuti na mag ipon pa ng konti to be able to get the best you can buy, rather than make compromises and settle with what your current budget can afford.

I'm happy with my HT setup now but I wish I had not spent so much with the "not so good" decisions made in the past.

Sana makatulong lang.
Title: Re: pioneer vsx-815-k or s good buy ba!?!
Post by: elvenears on Jan 24, 2006 at 03:14 PM
Pre, baka makatulong to:

http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/PioneerVSX-815ReceiverReview1.php

I've been through a couple of HT receivers already. Pag baguhan kasi, excited talaga.

Suggestion ko: wag ka mag madali. Most of the time we think of our budget for the HT setup. This is good and nothing is wrong with it.

In my experience however, mas mabuti na mag ipon pa ng konti to be able to get the best you can buy, rather than make compromises and settle with what your current budget can afford.

I'm happy with my HT setup now but I wish I had not spent so much with the "not so good" decisions made in the past.

Sana makatulong lang.


thanks sir pero nabasa ko na yang reviews nyan ang taas nga ng ratings nyan dyan eh ;D...yan din sinasabi ng daddy ko at mga tito ko....siguro tama kayo ...masyado kasi akong na bilib dun sa self calibrating pero pwede pa naman magbago ang isip ko...hehe....thanks sa suggestion .........
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 25, 2006 at 02:19 PM
Gusto kong sumubok ng Pro Logic II / IIx, pero Pioneer pa rin ang hanap ko.  I'm presently using the old Pioneer 510, which has just the right sound I'm looking for. 

Personal preference lang naman, pero mas gusto ko ang brighter output ng Pioneer kasi ang mga more expensive brands na usually mas dim ang sound ay mas OK nga sa music, pero nagkakaproblema naman sa dialog intelligibility sa movies.  Mas priority ko kasi ang DVD Video.  Siyempre, depende sa DVD.  Pag natiyempo sa DVD na medyo muddy ang dialog, mas claro sa Pioneer, pero ngongo na sa higher end brands.

Please share your views on the new AV Receivers:

(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/imagesOnline/VSX-515-S_thn.jpg)
(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/imagesOnline/VSX-815-S_thn.jpg)
(http://www.pioneer.com.sg/storefront/imagesOnline/VSX-915-S_thn.jpg)

515, 815 & 915.

Is it true that Yamaha is brighter but has less bass than Pioneer?

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: BuLLeT on Jan 25, 2006 at 07:09 PM

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=1156

Maybe this link can help.
Title: Re: pioneer vsx-815-k or s good buy ba!?!
Post by: BuLLeT on Jan 25, 2006 at 07:15 PM
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=1156


Maybe this can also help. I almost bought a 915 but I decided to hold of my purchase for the time being.
 ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 25, 2006 at 08:13 PM
Thanks, bosing. 

Nakita ko na ang 815 sa Ambassador Shang. Bibili na sana ako (P22,500), but the only thing holding me back is the front panel design.  Hindi ko kursunada ang design, at hindi maganda ang dalawang shiny knobs/dials.  Mukhang generic ang porma.

Mas maganda pa nga ang design ng lumang 514. Baka mas maganda ang design ng next series.  Hintay na lang ako.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: elvenears on Jan 25, 2006 at 08:46 PM
maybe this link will help as well......... http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/PioneerVSX-815ReceiverReview1.php.....imho maganda to kasi mura ,maganda ang gawa and if it can do half of what pioneer says it can do then i think its a good buy.....as far as the looks is concern tama si barrister! medyo pangit ang dating "old school" but if you think the silver does not look good wait till you see the black one ;D......personally gusto ko yung self-calibrating fuction nya...parang for the price it was iresistable talaga......i actually e-mailed my uncle already for him to buy me one but my wife got a hold of me ;D.....for an entry level i think this is a good buy....you might want to check on pioneerelectronics.com as well......i think i agree with the previous posts that this is a very potent combination if paired with wharfs diamond 9's....if i get over the WAF (wife approval factor)ill keep you guys posted pero siguro by march pa to ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 26, 2006 at 11:22 AM
Thanks, bosing.  I got the article (after deleting the excess ".....imho" sa link). 

It's good that Pioneer receivers are getting positive reviews.  Kasi I prefer the sound of Pioneer kahit hindi siya popular sa pinoydvd members.  Madali pa sa parts and service.

I usually browse the Pioneer Singapore site http://www.pioneer.com.sg to check the latest models available in our region. 

Pero sa totoo lang, mas maganda pa ang porma ng Pioneer 510 ko (year 2002) sa mga latest receivers nila.  Dati, palaging mas maganda ang front panel ng Pioneer sa mga Yamaha.  Ngayon, mas maganda na ang Yamaha.  I'm sure the x15 series will be to my liking performance-wise, but it's just the ugliest AV receiver Pioneer has designed to date. 

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Jason_10 on Jan 26, 2006 at 11:35 AM
i like the front design of the new pioneer avr's. it looks sophisticated.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 26, 2006 at 12:29 PM
Thanks, bosing. 

Nakita ko na ang 815 sa Ambassador Shang. Bibili na sana ako (P22,500), but the only thing holding me back is the front panel design.  Hindi ko kursunada ang design, at hindi maganda ang dalawang shiny knobs/dials.  Mukhang generic ang porma.

Mas maganda pa nga ang design ng lumang 514. Baka mas maganda ang design ng next series.  Hintay na lang ako.

More than a year ago, I almost bought the VSX-D811S which had excellent state-of-the-art preamp features and a pre-out terminal that can replace/upgrade my old Rotel preamp/decorders.  The series for me had the handsomest looking receivers in the market at that time.   What halted me in my tracks were their non-standard panel width which will not match the 17+" standard width of my other components.  Very skin-deep lang yung criteria ko for deciding.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Jan 27, 2006 at 08:40 AM
With all the features of that pioneer vsx 811s-s, and with its price if 22k 3 years ago i was tempted -- so, thats my receiver now.  ;D
Title: Re:Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Jan 27, 2006 at 09:17 AM
the bass signal of the pioneer vsxd811s-s appears unrefined as compared to the denons, onkyos or the yammies. When i ordered the sub from NIRVBLAKR, pinili talaga nila yong ampli that would match perfectly with it.

this wAS the observation made by NIRVBLAKR 3 years ago -- however I discovered later that this was due to an error in the settings made. When the custom made sub was tested, all speakers were set into LARGE, thats why the low freq signal was send to all speakers and none to the sub, though the sub was ON - this was the reason why the sub didnt seem to function well. We failed to see that the receiver's SUB adjustment has another option if all speakers are set into LARGE. Dapat pala naka SUBWOOFER PLUS. After correcting the setting, masyado nang malakas ang bass so I had to set the sub in its minimum level   
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 27, 2006 at 01:45 PM
More than a year ago, I almost bought the VSX-D811S which had excellent state-of-the-art preamp features and a pre-out terminal that can replace/upgrade my old Rotel preamp/decorders.  The series for me had the handsomest looking receivers in the market at that time.   What halted me in my tracks were their non-standard panel width which will not match the 17+" standard width of my other components.  Very skin-deep lang yung criteria ko for deciding.  ;D

Bosing, hindi mo magugustuhan ang Pioneer AV receiver sa music.  Manipis ang tunog.  May Pioneer integrated amp ako, great for music (personal preference lang, ha); malayong malayo sa payat na tunog ng Pioneer AV receiver sa music.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Jan 27, 2006 at 03:48 PM
Bosing, hindi mo magugustuhan ang Pioneer AV receiver sa music.  Manipis ang tunog.  May Pioneer integrated amp ako, great for music (personal preference lang, ha); malayong malayo sa payat na tunog ng Pioneer AV receiver sa music.

You're not alone in that observation.  Many auido/video enthrusiasts  have observed that most entry to mid level HT receivers are really meant to operate with a SUBWOOFER.  Their power amps fall below their expectations.  Understandably so as most HT receiver makers would not mind not following strict FTC standards in power rating and full bandwidth power disclosure.  Pioneer is not alone there.  OTH, many of the older stereo receivers and integrateds, Pioneer included,  have better full bandwidth power handling to give them more body even without a subwoofer. 

In my case, it was the PREAMP section of that model that interested me.  Many video/audio enthusiasts in multicannel sounds realizing the state-of-the-art preamp/decoder features in many mid to flagship HT receivers, opt to use ONLY their preamp section that are mated, via their preout terminals, to more competent power amp separates like NADs, HKs, Rotels, Aragons, Brystons, Parasound, etc., names that are well known among audiophile circles for their splendid amplifer make.    It's so much more cost-effective than getting separate multichannel preamps that are often only available from Krell, Sunfire, Rotel, etc, that,  while superior in many regards,  can cost as much as if not more than a flagship HT receiver. 

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 27, 2006 at 11:59 PM
Amazing!  May napulot na naman akong bago kay av_phile1.

I've read a lot of your posts, bosing.  You may not know it, but I'm actually a big fan of yours.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: classicman on Jan 30, 2006 at 06:12 PM
had quiet a long experience w/ pioneer 510 a/v receiver from 2001 up to early last year when i sold it to a friend who is not a pdvd member.  i was very satisfied w/ its performance on HT & never experienced any problem at all.  i only discovered na medyo manipis sya sa bass after i upgraded to a yammy 450 & had the occassion to compare them using the same set of speakers including an active subs.

on the other hand, i still have my pioneer stereo receiver that am using for my purely audio dedicated set-up being paired w/ my pioneer cdp, w/c i both acquired since 1995 pa.  and i agree w/ the following observation of sir av_phile1 that it has a better full bandwidth power even w/o a subs as compared to my 510 receiver or even my yammy 450.

OTH, many of the older stereo receivers and integrateds, Pioneer included,  have better full bandwidth power handling to give them more body even without a subwoofer. 

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 30, 2006 at 07:15 PM
had quiet a long experience w/ pioneer 510 a/v receiver from 2001 up to early last year when i sold it to a friend who is not a pdvd member.  i was very satisfied w/ its performance on HT & never experienced any problem at all.  i only discovered na medyo manipis sya sa bass after i upgraded to a yammy 450 & had the occassion to compare them using the same set of speakers including an active subs.

Bosing, akala ko mas mahina daw ang bass ng Yamaha, pero based on your post, hindi pala totoo ang balita ko.  Because of your input, I'm now seriously considering Yamaha's 657. 

Problema ko na lang kung OK ang service sa Yamaha.  Hassle-free service kasi ang importante sa akin kaya mahilig ako sa Pioneer and other mass-market brands. 

Please share your views. I'm very interested because I'm presently using Pioneer 510.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: blackmtx on Jan 30, 2006 at 07:48 PM
I'm also using Pioneer VSX-509S, I  bought it last 2001 and still using it, talagang manipis ang tunog kaya I used it only for satellite speakers like Eosone. VSX-509S uses hybrid IC's unlike other highend AVRs uses discrete components for high current  output amplification.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Jan 31, 2006 at 12:04 PM
I will share my experience and findings as I have shared it in previous thread regarding the subject.

My brother has VSX-509 (for 10k). I have yamaha 630 (for 19k). we both use 8.3. we exhange materials. Our notes shows my yamaha sounds thinner than his pioneer. His pioneer sounds full - not bass-shy.

I shied away from Pioneer due to my experience with VSX-3800 which I think is bass-shy.

So what's going on? After so many experiments on various type of speakers - full range, contemporary, DIY, vintage, etc - and diff amps, sansui, technics, yamaha, pioneer, vintage, mono blocks - my other brother tried to find out our issues.

The pioneer of my brother sounds good because of his placement. His house has the ceiling following the roof - unlike mine, just flat throughout. His listening area has a place to have the 8.3 placed 3 ft from the corners without being  a hassle for the rest of the family members, unlike mine, can only do it at most 3ft on a side but 2 ft at the back. Further discovered that my listening area is a bass hole in the middle - I have the best bass just at the entrance of the door to my listening area.

Part of the experiment is with the VSX-3800 I gave t my father since I do not want its sonics (probably because of the speakers - or its placement) - just because I espoused some unfounded basis - like that of IC versus discreet - like the LM3886 vs discreet , etc etc. We modify a speaker system to have a 10" full range (coral) with reinforcement on the HF. I have another brother who helped us correlate experiments. After this setup, I am convinced that VSX-3800 is not bass shy, and in fact I am trying to recover the amp and find a suitable speaker for it. We enjoy its lively sound - from bottom end to high frequency.

My yamaha is not bass shy, as some would have it stated just like that - a simple statement as if is is just the amp.

Bottomline - the choice of your speaker and the matching to the amp and then the room placement (room modes) greatly affect the total sound of your system.

Pioneer is bass shy to what speakers and room placement? and so Yamaha is bass shy on the same ground - and the rest of amplifiers/speakers for that matter, unless your amp has integrated tone alterations on the preamp section to make it bass heavy.

I still have the 630 which is bass shy for 8.3 at the location I choose before - so I change my speaker, change my listening position. My brother still enjoys the 509 with 8.3 in full range (large speaker) - will not give it up.

Now, we just threw some of our unfounded notions about this amp is that and that amp is that. So many variables in the art of listening - so we realized.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: blackmtx on Jan 31, 2006 at 12:46 PM
yes, pioneer vsx-509 is good, kaya di ko pa pinapalitan.... ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Jan 31, 2006 at 01:36 PM
Does it not depend also on the model of the amp?

My point here is that, a certain model may have been manufactured in a particular assembly plant and so with the other models raising the possibility that some components used may not be the same as the other models, thus the varying quality of audio output.  ::)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Jan 31, 2006 at 04:48 PM
Does it not depend also on the model of the amp?

My point here is that, a certain model may have been manufactured in a particular assembly plant and so with the other models raising the possibility that some components used may not be the same as the other models, thus the varying quality of audio output.  ::)

There is no easy simple answer to your question - it might or it might not.

Again, I subscribed to Mr. Kardon when he said cost has nothing to do with the performance of an amp - cost is not an indicator.

Cost can indicate the material used and the amount of design that went into it, but performance is entirely a different subject matter to cover.

As this is the art of listening, and with so many variables affecting the sound at a given place (the speaker, its placement, the software, the player, room modes, acoustic treatment, etc etc), a person serious in listening have to pay attention on 'listening' more than anything.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: classicman on Feb 03, 2006 at 10:37 PM
Bosing, akala ko mas mahina daw ang bass ng Yamaha, pero based on your post, hindi pala totoo ang balita ko.  Because of your input, I'm now seriously considering Yamaha's 657. 

Problema ko na lang kung OK ang service sa Yamaha.  Hassle-free service kasi ang importante sa akin kaya mahilig ako sa Pioneer and other mass-market brands. 

Please share your views. I'm very interested because I'm presently using Pioneer 510.



sir barrister, sorry ngayon ko lang ito nabasa.......i had a 2-week overlapping period wherein i already bought my first yammy 450 while the sold pioneer 510 was still in the house coz di pa kinukuha ng buyer-friend ko, so i had more than enough time to compare them using the same set of speakers (including an active subs), same dvd player, same DVD discs, same interconnects/cable wires & same ROOM ;D

mas maganda talaga di hamak ang yammy on all departments including bass, but i should emphasize that the comparison was only in the HT usage......kaya nga when we needed to get another receiver for another set-up, we got another yammy HTR-5860 :D......it was a no-brainer for me & i didn't even check the latest pioneer models although i was a long time user of 1 of its models ;)

but it's just me......sabi nga ng mga magagaling dito, i-audition mo nalang parehas & hayaan mong tenga mo ang magpasya 8)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: barrister on Feb 03, 2006 at 11:12 PM
Thanks for the very useful insights, sir classicman.  I really needed to hear your views kasi wala akong opportunity to have a side-by-side comparison.

I plan to get Yammy 657 with Wharfe Diamond 9.5.  Hindi na masama ang presyo.

Nakarinig ako, courtesy of Audio Excellance's (Spectra group) very accommodating Nino, ng Yammy 650 paired with Diamond 9.5.  The sound was very much to my liking...  authoritative, clean bass with natural, rounded mids.   Intelligible naman ang dialogue. 

Thanks again for taking the time to help me decide.



--------------------------------------


How about service?

I'm a long time Pioneer user.  Ang masasabi ko sa Pioneer, walang problema sa parts and service. 

Ano ang balita sa Yamaha repairs?  OK ba ang service nila?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: classicman on Feb 07, 2006 at 05:29 PM

How about service?

I'm a long time Pioneer user.  Ang masasabi ko sa Pioneer, walang problema sa parts and service. 

Ano ang balita sa Yamaha repairs?  OK ba ang service nila?


am sorry sir barrister but i can't comment on the after sales service of the yammy coz sa awa ng diyos di pa naman nasisira ang 2 yammies ko, maingat kasi tayo eh, hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: barrister on Feb 07, 2006 at 07:45 PM
Hehehe!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Yan ang pinakamagandang puwedeng mangyari -- walang nasisira!!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: losi_phile on Feb 20, 2006 at 09:28 AM
yes, pioneer vsx-509 is good, kaya di ko pa pinapalitan.... ;D

Learning pa remote control ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joey on Apr 21, 2006 at 10:15 AM
just finish cleaning my vsx-d510 reciever and found out na yung decoder for dts/dd eh yamaha chipset pala... ???
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: levi on Nov 03, 2006 at 07:59 PM
bump
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: losi_phile on Jan 18, 2007 at 01:52 PM
yes, pioneer vsx-509 is good, kaya di ko pa pinapalitan.... ;D

How's you VSX-D509S now?

I discovered a few months back the "DIRECT" feature of the 509S and it sounded even better now on stereo listening both CDs and LPs.

Try it if you haven't tried it yet.

 ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Jan 18, 2007 at 02:15 PM
How's you VSX-D509S now?

I discovered a few months back the "DIRECT" feature of the 509S and it sounded even better now on stereo listening both CDs and LPs.

Try it if you haven't tried it yet.

 ;D


... tagal ko nang sinabi sa 'yo yan, recently mo lang sinubukan ... I tested the VSX 511 sa direct, super crystal ang dating ... yun nga lang, pag na engage mo na ang tone, malamya na ang dating! ... I admit, it is very good in stereo direct playback - especially with 8.3!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Nov 06, 2008 at 04:22 PM
Are Pioneer receivers still being sold locally? Who are Pioneer dealers?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: flak-jacket on Nov 07, 2008 at 08:35 AM
Are Pioneer receivers still being sold locally? Who are Pioneer dealers?

Sights & Sounds. send a PM to sir E-Reply.  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Nov 07, 2008 at 01:03 PM
Sights & Sounds. send a PM to sir E-Reply.  :)

Just did so yesterday. Already got the price list.

We have a Pioneer Stereo Receiver from 10+ years back and it sounds fuller and richer than my current Yamaha kaya napatanong ako kung meron locally available. ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ment on Mar 21, 2009 at 04:38 AM
why is it Pioneer brands of AVR are not as popular here as Yamaha, Onkyo, Denon, etc ......

though i must admit that many many years back nag audition ako sa HT ng pinsan ko (maka pioneer siya coz malapit lang siya sa Raon ;D)  kahit medyo mas mahal yung pioneer niya, panis sa Onkyo 525 ng kuya ko music wise .... ang nipis ng pioneer

di na ba nag improve ang pioneer?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: fredmontano on Mar 21, 2009 at 11:12 AM
I was just given a Pioneer VDX-D712 AVR. Would like to know the reviews and capabilities of this unit? Been searching the web and I found almost no reviews regarding it. I would like to know your opinions or any personal experiences you had with this unit. I'm a newbie with respect to HT set-up so please bear with me.

And would like to know what speakers are good to be partnered with this AVR?

Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 21, 2009 at 02:18 PM
kahit medyo mas mahal yung pioneer niya, panis sa Onkyo 525 ng kuya ko music wise .... ang nipis ng pioneer


did you try the same speakers in the same placement in the same room?

Bottomline - the choice of your speaker and the matching to the amp and then the room placement (room modes) greatly affect the total sound of your system.



Now, we just threw some of our unfounded notions about this amp is that and that amp is that. So many variables in the art of listening - so we realized.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: thesaint on Mar 22, 2009 at 01:53 PM
I was just given a Pioneer VDX-D712 AVR. Would like to know the reviews and capabilities of this unit? Been searching the web and I found almost no reviews regarding it. I would like to know your opinions or any personal experiences you had with this unit. I'm a newbie with respect to HT set-up so please bear with me.

And would like to know what speakers are good to be partnered with this AVR?

Thanks.  :)

Same here. I just bought VSX-D814S for 11K lang. 50% off sa western megamall kasi demo unit ito.
1 pair of Konzert pa lang yung speaker ko. Gusto kong mag upgrade ng 5.1 speaker system.
OK na ba ang Jamo? match din ba ito sa pioneer?


Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ment on Mar 23, 2009 at 12:47 AM
did you try the same speakers in the same placement in the same room?


no po we never has the chance to do that :(
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: blued888 on Mar 23, 2009 at 02:24 AM
why is it Pioneer brands of AVR are not as popular here as Yamaha, Onkyo, Denon, etc ......

though i must admit that many many years back nag audition ako sa HT ng pinsan ko (maka pioneer siya coz malapit lang siya sa Raon ;D)  kahit medyo mas mahal yung pioneer niya, panis sa Onkyo 525 ng kuya ko music wise .... ang nipis ng pioneer

di na ba nag improve ang pioneer?

Madaming sikat na Pioneer models such as VSX-1018-AH-K, VSX-01TXH, etc.

Pero mostly sa US market lang siya feasible bilhin dahil meron nga dito sa atin pero way too expensive compared to other AVR's.

IMO, they're not famous here because you can get the same features for a lot less money.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: aHobbit on Mar 23, 2009 at 10:48 PM
why is it Pioneer brands of AVR are not as popular here as Yamaha, Onkyo, Denon, etc ......

though i must admit that many many years back nag audition ako sa HT ng pinsan ko (maka pioneer siya coz malapit lang siya sa Raon ;D)  kahit medyo mas mahal yung pioneer niya, panis sa Onkyo 525 ng kuya ko music wise .... ang nipis ng pioneer

di na ba nag improve ang pioneer?


I would say it boils down to the choice of speakers (for it is the speakers that produces the sound, and not the pioneer) - though pioneer drives the speaker. So it's two to tango.

I had this unusual observation in my olden days. I got a VSX-4800 way back and through out its existence in my house I never enjoyed its sound - manipis as you said it (using a high sensitivity 10-inch coral full range at 97db).

After that experience, I shied away from Pioneer.

I got the wharfedale 9.3 floor stander and Yamaha RX-V630 and I was also disappointed with its overall performance.

After 5 years of changing gears, I revisited my VSX-4800 in my father's house, and have the same coral speakers in different box, but also in different place (location). Guess what? It sounding so good - and am surprise?

The day before I sold my Yamaha and wharfedale 8.3, I have it setup in a different position being dismantled already and just for auditioning of the committed buyer. When I heard the test, i was surprised to hear a different sound.

My brother did bought the good VSX-509 with 8.3. You may not believe me but it sounds awfully good in his house.

Later I temporarily bought a set of pioneer VSX-511 and dai-ichi euro, just to sell it - for fun! The pioneer is crystalline good in straight stereo - but sucks when the DSP is engaged.

All the above taught me what can be read from the internet from those who dont hype brands but rather will point to you issues on listening.
(1) speaker-amp matching: no two people have exactly same set-up (player, amp, speaker, interconnects, etc)
(2) amp is the most behave of your sound chain (.1% THD or distortion)
(3) speaker is the wild card (it pumps distortion to your music way above your amp can)
(4) your listening room is the notorious culprit in bad sound (about 80% of distortion can be attributed to this)

This explains my VSX-480 sounding good because it is oriented in different manner as not to suck my sound.
This explains my Yamah RX-V630/8.3 tandem sounding good because it is oriented in a different manner
This explains my brothers pioneer VSX-509 sounding awesome good in his place because his listening area is shaped beautifully.
All of the above made good sound because the interaction of the place to the sound was mitigated.

What is most interesting with my brother's house is that, whatever gear (speaker, amp) you threw in his area, they always sounds big, no matter how small or ugly they sound in my place.


So that's the time we paid attention to the real issues - and remember, the amp is the most innocent of them all. The marketing arm of this branded commercialism will always try to obscure the  facts just to sell.

You can also learn a lot from the postings of Pilyo.


So I have my respect restored to Pioneer. The truth is that a simple $200 pioneer beats the behemoth USD 10,000 high end tube monoblocks in a statistical A-B sound tests among the participating audiophiles.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: edocampo on Jun 02, 2009 at 08:49 AM
mga sirs,

Patulong naman po.

I just acquired a Pioneer VSX-D710s.

My problem is hindi ko sya mapatunog ng maayos, paricularly yung sub pre-out parang ang hina-hina. pag naka 5.1, then yung center totally wala, hizzing sound lang naririnig ko. my source is promac KTV-200 5.1 din sya.

Anybody have experienced on this?

Thanks in advance,

edocampo
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jun 02, 2009 at 09:52 AM
mga sirs,

Patulong naman po.

I just acquired a Pioneer VSX-D710s.

My problem is hindi ko sya mapatunog ng maayos, paricularly yung sub pre-out parang ang hina-hina. pag naka 5.1, then yung center totally wala, hizzing sound lang naririnig ko. my source is promac KTV-200 5.1 din sya.

Anybody have experienced on this?

Thanks in advance,

edocampo
you can first try setting all speakers to small. recheck all settings and connections. you can also refer to the troubleshooting guide in your operating manual to isolate the problems.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: edocampo on Jun 02, 2009 at 12:20 PM
you can first try setting all speakers to small. recheck all settings and connections. you can also refer to the troubleshooting guide in your operating manual to isolate the problems.

Thanks sir markcrenz, I already set the all the speakers to small. wla din nangyari. Ok lang ba kahit walang sorround speakers?

Ginawa ko lang, connect the FR / FL / CTR / SUBW from receiver to AVR's FR / FL / CTR / SUBW and connect the powered sub to AVR's SUBW preout. Tama naman di ba?

thanks,

edocampo
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jun 02, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Thanks sir markcrenz, I already set the all the speakers to small. wla din nangyari. Ok lang ba kahit walang sorround speakers?

Ginawa ko lang, connect the FR / FL / CTR / SUBW from receiver to AVR's FR / FL / CTR / SUBW and connect the powered sub to AVR's SUBW preout. Tama naman di ba?

thanks,

edocampo
from receiver to AVR??? or DVD to AVR? kung may coaxial out yung dvd player use that to connect to the AVR, let the AVR handle the dolby decoding. also try increasing the sub volume level.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: edocampo on Jun 02, 2009 at 12:40 PM
from receiver to AVR??? or DVD to AVR? kung may coaxial out yung dvd player use that to connect to the AVR, let the AVR handle the dolby decoding. also try increasing the sub volume level.

DVD to AVR pala sir.

Ok will try that. same cable din ba gamit sa coaxial out? I mean ordinary RCA will do?

Salamat ulit
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jun 02, 2009 at 02:09 PM
DVD to AVR pala sir.

Ok will try that. same cable din ba gamit sa coaxial out? I mean ordinary RCA will do?

Salamat ulit
yes. you can also buy a cable specifically for coax but a good quality RCA cable will do. for best sq optical digital connection is preferred.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Benissimo on Jun 07, 2009 at 06:00 PM
I own a VSX-D859TX (THX select). Although luma na sya, satisfied pa rin ako sa sounds.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: soundwave on Jul 07, 2009 at 01:33 PM
Hi, I'm planning of getting the pioneer vsx-919AH and will pair it with 685 B&Ws.
Will be using it as 2.0 for now hangang magkabudget na. Will I be experiencing any compatibility issues?
Need your expertise here as I'm new in the hobby. Thanks.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Jul 10, 2009 at 08:12 AM
My VSX 811s-s 24/96 DAC SACD/DVD-A/ 120 x 6 (with 7.1 output) receiver is still serving me excellently. With my all DIY 7.1 speaker set up, i think this can still hold on.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vx2 on Jul 13, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Hi, I'm planning of getting the pioneer vsx-919AH and will pair it with 685 B&Ws.
Will be using it as 2.0 for now hangang magkabudget na. Will I be experiencing any compatibility issues?
Need your expertise here as I'm new in the hobby. Thanks.


I just ordered the vsx-919 too, the days of expensive Pioneer avrs that don't equal the features of similarly priced avrs are gone. It's now the total opposite. Icing on the cake was the integrated iPod control...and even includes a USB cable! For 350$

-7.1, w/2 zone
-passes and upscales analog video through HDMI out
-integrated iPod integration w/on screen navigation w/o the need to buy an 100$ dock
-Advanced MCACC, superb calibration tool for such a low priced receiver

I would have gotten the 1019 but I don't need much of the features, for the intended set up, it's more than enough.

I see absolutely no incompatibilities with your intended set-up. The 685's i think are rated at 8 ohms correct? :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: soundwave on Jul 22, 2009 at 08:42 AM
Yup, you are correct, the 685's are rated at 8 ohms.
Thanks for the advise!
Is the vsx 1019 available here in the Philippines. I've tried looking at SM malls but could not find the vsx 1019. I'm interested on the video upscaling feature of the 1019, which the 919 doesn't have.
Hoping you can point me to where I could find one and test/hear it.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jetro on Aug 02, 2009 at 11:43 PM
I am also looking for a vsx 1019....any local dealers?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Aug 11, 2009 at 07:28 AM
M also lookin for this. I think it uses the Faroudja to upscale. This is priced $499 in the US. But how about the 919, is this available now in the local market?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jetro on Aug 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM
I remember asking Listening Room in Megamall for the vsx-919 and they said they have it.  order basis daw.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: wink on Sep 03, 2009 at 09:22 PM
The 1019 is also available at Automatic Centre, also on a per order basis since they're going to get it from Singapore.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jetro on Sep 09, 2009 at 03:50 PM
The 1019 is also available at Automatic Centre, also on a per order basis since they're going to get it from Singapore.

selling for how much sir?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: gearhead000 on Sep 09, 2009 at 05:50 PM
ah, so yung mga higher models pala is order basis. passed by western marketing
and also SM appliance center and only saw the VSX-519V-K.

(http://www.mrmdvd.com/catalog/images/vsx519.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: wink on Sep 11, 2009 at 12:09 AM
selling for how much sir?


The price is 42,990.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: don jose on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM
My VSX 811s-s 24/96 DAC SACD/DVD-A/ 120 x 6 (with 7.1 output) receiver is still serving me excellently. With my all DIY 7.1 speaker set up, i think this can still hold on.  ;D
almost the same set-up natin sir, VSX 811, 5.1 DIY from anthony but i have a wharfdale sub.
may idea ba kayo kung saan ako pwede bumili ng remote para sa VSX 811?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: shenzojean on Nov 04, 2009 at 01:36 PM
Anybody here auditioned for VSX-519, is it a good entry level? Does it also have the MCACC feature?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Nov 04, 2009 at 02:25 PM
may idea ba kayo kung saan ako pwede bumili ng remote para sa VSX 811?
ask mo si jerix, naghahanap din sya dati. bumili yata sya ng universal remote for his pioneer

Anybody here auditioned for VSX-519, is it a good entry level? Does it also have the MCACC feature?
nope. yung 819 up lang may auto calibration
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tube Pro on Nov 20, 2009 at 12:35 AM
I've just acquired an early AVR Pioneer model VSX-501 and paired with my 80's model CS-979 3-way Pioneer speaker system

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd136/joelkine/IMGP0977.jpg)

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd136/joelkine/IMGP0976.jpg)

Anyone here has the same unit or has auditioned this receiver? Care to post some reviews & comments?

TIA.
 :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 20, 2009 at 01:18 PM
Anybody here auditioned for VSX-519, is it a good entry level? Does it also have the MCACC feature?

In my opinion, it's a great value. The new Pioneer receivers pack quite some punch. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2RM on Nov 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM
How much po ba nagun VSX-519?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: gunslinger on Nov 23, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Last time I checked, it was 14K at Western. Output was not as good as the higher models though. I myself am looking at 919 which is 30K. Feature packed and the sound quality is really good if paired with the right speakers. And you can get it for terms using credit card.   
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: obelix on Nov 29, 2009 at 07:40 AM
mukha ngang maganda yung mga pioneer na receivers... the 819 is around 23 sa ansons.
(http://www.avland.co.uk/pioneer/vsx819/vsx819.jpg)

meron na ba itong mga autocalibration tulad ng onkyo?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Verbl Kint on Nov 30, 2009 at 07:52 PM
Saw a VSX-rs319v (with todoroki) being sold for 14,990.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: smitfraud on Dec 08, 2009 at 07:51 PM
Mga Sir help kung anong mas ok sa dalawa:

Yamaha RX-V350 or Pioneer VSX-519-k?

Yamaha RX-V350 =2nd hand 6500
Pioneer VSX-519-k = Brand new 15999

San ba sir ako makakabili ng Pioneer VSX-519-k sa SM kasi 15999 xa..san kaya mas mura makakabili

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: smitfraud on Dec 08, 2009 at 07:59 PM
Last time I checked, it was 14K at Western. Output was not as good as the higher models though. I myself am looking at 919 which is 30K. Feature packed and the sound quality is really good if paired with the right speakers. And you can get it for terms using credit card.   

Sir san po yung western?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 09, 2009 at 07:43 AM
Saw a VSX-rs319v (with todoroki) being sold for 14,990.

Western can give a bit of a discount on this. It seems like it shares most of its stuff with the vsx-519k.


Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: gunslinger on Dec 09, 2009 at 09:04 AM
I suggest you go 519 or 819/919. You can have it upto 18 mos 0% at Western or Ansons if you know how to haggle. Forget the Todoroki speakers. Try instead the Jamo or Mordaunt Short.

I'm also looking at a new receiver and I'm for 819/919 but still scouting for other options while saving to fund the project. I will probably purchase my speaker set from the reputable sellers here. You can opt to do the same. 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 09, 2009 at 09:58 AM
Mga Sir help kung anong mas ok sa dalawa:

Yamaha RX-V350 or Pioneer VSX-519-k?

Yamaha RX-V350 =2nd hand 6500
Pioneer VSX-519-k = Brand new 15999

San ba sir ako makakabili ng Pioneer VSX-519-k sa SM kasi 15999 xa..san kaya mas mura makakabili



the 519k doesn't decode lossless HD audio formats.  There could be more value to the 2nd hand Yamaha - less than half the price with about the same features.    If you ask me, the only reason to buy a new receiver is if you need to decode these new audio formats.  Otherwise, a previous generation one can offer better value.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nogie on Dec 09, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Just my two cents...

If you are really decided on Pioneer receiver why not buy their Elite models. This is one of the better choices available in the market. If you can not afford the current models that can do lossless audio why not buy older models that can process audio thru HDMI. The result is the same, you only have to set your player to pcm to enjoy lossless audio. I have Pioneer Elite 81TXV that I in my opinion, it is better than Onkyo 804 & Yamaha RXV 1700 that i also own. Audition is also very impt factor, baka yong maganda sa akin ay pangit pala sa yo.  ;D

Mga Sir help kung anong mas ok sa dalawa:

Yamaha RX-V350 or Pioneer VSX-519-k?

Yamaha RX-V350 =2nd hand 6500
Pioneer VSX-519-k = Brand new 15999

San ba sir ako makakabili ng Pioneer VSX-519-k sa SM kasi 15999 xa..san kaya mas mura makakabili


Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 09, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Mga Sir help kung anong mas ok sa dalawa:

Yamaha RX-V350 or Pioneer VSX-519-k?

Yamaha RX-V350 =2nd hand 6500
Pioneer VSX-519-k = Brand new 15999

San ba sir ako makakabili ng Pioneer VSX-519-k sa SM kasi 15999 xa..san kaya mas mura makakabili


as i've read in several threads, you'll be better off with a relatively new 2nd hand mid or hi end receiver than with a brand new entry level model UNLESS you REALLY NEED the new feature in the new receiver.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: smitfraud on Dec 09, 2009 at 03:57 PM
Just my two cents...

If you are really decided on Pioneer receiver why not buy their Elite models. This is one of the better choices available in the market. If you can not afford the current models that can do lossless audio why not buy older models that can process audio thru HDMI. The result is the same, you only have to set your player to pcm to enjoy lossless audio. I have Pioneer Elite 81TXV that I in my opinion, it is better than Onkyo 804 & Yamaha RXV 1700 that i also own. Audition is also very impt factor, baka yong maganda sa akin ay pangit pala sa yo.  ;D



Sir Salamat sa feedback:

Yamaha Titanium RX V750 ?Binebenta ni Sir Simple, Ano sir ung mas ok Yamaha Titanium RX V750 or pioneer 519? Ang habol ko sir sa Pioneer vsx 519 is meron na xa hdmi. pasensya na po newbie.lol
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nogie on Dec 09, 2009 at 04:35 PM

Sir Salamat sa feedback:

Yamaha Titanium RX V750 ?Binebenta ni Sir Simple, Ano sir ung mas ok Yamaha Titanium RX V750 or pioneer 519? Ang habol ko sir sa Pioneer vsx 519 is meron na xa hdmi. pasensya na po newbie.lol

The pio 519 can't handle audio processing thru HDMI, the hdmi feature is for video pass-through only. Since this is an entry level receiver, it doesn't have upscaling chip to upgrade video from analog sources. Yamaha RX 750 is a mid-range but older non-hdmi receiver. It has enough power that will give you more options in your search of better speakers.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 09, 2009 at 05:21 PM
Sir Salamat sa feedback:
Yamaha Titanium RX V750 ?Binebenta ni Sir Simple, Ano sir ung mas ok Yamaha Titanium RX V750 or pioneer 519? Ang habol ko sir sa Pioneer vsx 519 is meron na xa hdmi. pasensya na po newbie.lol

sir insights from an avergae HT guy like you. providing the below information would enable our fellow pdvd folks to provide the best opitons for you.

1. how much are you willing to spend.
2. what are you looking for in a receiver? HDMI upscaling, latest video/audio format decoding, power, 5.1, 
    7.1
there are many 2nd hand stuff being sold in the market place that are cheap yet very good receiver. 519 is new but entry level only for sure after a while mag hahanap ka na ng iba. dont take the path i threaded get the best that you can get if you need to save a bit pa then save. its a suggestion given to me by fellow members and it paid dividends hope you find the best catch for you ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 09, 2009 at 05:23 PM
Yamaha RXV 1700 that i also own.

 pa OT lang po, hmmmnnn may 1700 ka pala??
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: smitfraud on Dec 09, 2009 at 05:55 PM
sir insights from an avergae HT guy like you. providing the below information would enable our fellow pdvd folks to provide the best opitons for you.

1. how much are you willing to spend.
2. what are you looking for in a receiver? HDMI upscaling, latest video/audio format decoding, power, 5.1, 
    7.1
there are many 2nd hand stuff being sold in the market place that are cheap yet very good receiver. 519 is new but entry level only for sure after a while mag hahanap ka na ng iba. dont take the path i threaded get the best that you can get if you need to save a bit pa then save. its a suggestion given to me by fellow members and it paid dividends hope you find the best catch for you ;)

Sir actually my budget is only 16k for the receiver.
I am looking for a receiver is HDMI upscaling, latest video/audio format decoding, power, 5.1. kaya ko nagustuhan ung pioneer vsx 519 kasi meron ng hdmi. Pero buti na lang pinayuhan mo ko atlist naliwanagan ako.

 Maraming salamat Sir sa HT 101 lesson.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: smitfraud on Dec 09, 2009 at 07:31 PM
The pio 519 can't handle audio processing thru HDMI, the hdmi feature is for video pass-through only. Since this is an entry level receiver, it doesn't have upscaling chip to upgrade video from analog sources. Yamaha RX 750 is a mid-range but older non-hdmi receiver. It has enough power that will give you more options in your search of better speakers.  ;D

Salamat Sir Nogie
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 09, 2009 at 07:48 PM
Sir actually my budget is only 16k for the receiver.
I am looking for a receiver is HDMI upscaling, latest video/audio format decoding, power, 5.1. kaya ko nagustuhan ung pioneer vsx 519 kasi meron ng hdmi. Pero buti na lang pinayuhan mo ko atlist naliwanagan ako.

 Maraming salamat Sir sa HT 101 lesson.

dont mention it brader. natutunan ko lang lahat sa mga mababait na kawa myembro . post ka lang palagi at tiyak may magbigay sa yo ng tulong ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nogie on Dec 09, 2009 at 08:00 PM
pa OT lang po, hmmmnnn may 1700 ka pala??

Eto yong thread ko sa Yamaha RXV 1700. Sabay na binili ko ang Yammie 1700 at Denon 3806.  ;D Sorry for Yammie lovers pero base sa experience ko unbeatable at talagang maganda ang Yamaha at Onkyo sa Movies pero pagdating sa audio parang lata. This is just me... ;D ;D

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=90721.0


Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Dec 23, 2009 at 03:30 AM
ask mo si jerix, naghahanap din sya dati. bumili yata sya ng universal remote for his pioneer
nope. yung 819 up lang may auto calibration

Yeah -- i found a remote for the VSX811 at the PIONEER Service center Novaliches for 950.00 only. It is not the Intelligent Learning Remote that i originally got but it is working perfectly now. This remote is lighter and smaller.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 23, 2009 at 08:52 AM
Blu Ray players already decode Dolby TruHD and DTS-HD/MA.  You only need to set it to LPCM over HDMI to benefit from high resolution audio.  I don't really see much point buying new receivers with HD decoding features, unless you are absolutely certain the receiver's decoding is audibly superior to that in the player.  And that only happens with flagship receivers. 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Othan on Jan 22, 2010 at 10:44 PM
i'm confused

there are some that says pioneer vsx-519 can do HDMI audio, others disagree.
pag sinabi ba na HDMI repeater, may HDMIA audio?  as compared if declared HDMI pass-thru?

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/AV-Receivers/PioneerReceivers/ci.VSX-519V-K.Kuro?tab=B

http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/pioneer-vsx-519v-k/4507-6466_7-33639975.html?tag=mncolBtm;rnav

choice ko sana ito and wharfedale  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jan 23, 2010 at 02:00 AM
Wala pa HDMI Audio yan afaik. Repeater lang siya... replicates the same signal from the source for output sa display.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Othan on Jan 23, 2010 at 09:09 AM
so does that mean sir na if declared hdmi repeater, doesn't mean it has hdmi audio?  if declared ba na hdmi audio, ibig sabihin may DTS-HD Master audio and Dolby trueHD decoder and AVR? 

one more, if the pioneer vsx-519v-k is hdmi repeater and as you said only replicates the signal from the player, if i connect this player to a BD player that has DTS-HD MAster audio and Dolby TrueHD, will i still hear and enjoy that latest codecs?  if yes, how's the setup?  if no, what are my other choices? (ung entry level lang)  :D


TIA
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jan 23, 2010 at 09:16 AM
an hdmi repeater can accept and output digital audio and video signals.

having hdmi does not necessarily mean it can decode all audio. that will depend on the avr's digital decoder.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Othan on Jan 23, 2010 at 09:53 AM
what are the things i should note from a receiver so that i will enjoy the latest codecs (DTS MAster AUdio and DOlby TrueHD)?  i will use the BD player to process the said codecs.

TIA again
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iiinas on Jan 23, 2010 at 10:11 AM
what are the things i should note from a receiver so that i will enjoy the latest codecs (DTS MAster AUdio and DOlby TrueHD)?  i will use the BD player to process the said codecs.

TIA again

if you are going to use your player to decode the hd audio, any old hdmi 1.2 spec'ed receiver will do the trick. but what you will see on your receiver lcd screen is "multichannel" which means it is outputting lossless lpcm. but if you get the newer receivers, and have the player just bitstream the signal to the receiver to decode, you will now see the "dolby tru hd" or "dts ma" on your receiver'slcd screen. but even with the newer receivers, you can still have the player do the decoding and have the "multichannel" register on your receiver's lcd screen.

 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Othan on Jan 23, 2010 at 10:26 AM
if you are going to use your player to decode the hd audio, any old hdmi 1.2 spec'ed receiver will do the trick. but what you will see on your receiver lcd screen is "multichannel" which means it is outputting lossless lpcm. but if you get the newer receivers, and have the player just bitstream the signal to the receiver to decode, you will now see the "dolby tru hd" or "dts ma" on your receiver'slcd screen. but even with the newer receivers, you can still have the player do the decoding and have the "multichannel" register on your receiver's lcd screen.

 

pasensya na po noob po

ito naka lagay sa audio setup ng lg bd370:

HDMI / SPDIF (Digital Audio Output)
Select the output sound format when a device equipped with a HDMI or
Digital Audio input jack is connected to the HDMI OUT or DIGITAL AUDIO
OUT jack on this player.
[PCM Stereo] – Select if you connect this unit’s HDMI OUT or
DIGITAL AUDIO OUT jack to a device with two-channel digital stereo
decoder.
[PCM Multi-Ch] (HDMI only) – Select if you connect this unit’s
HDMI OUT jack to a device with multi-channel digital decoder.
[DTS Re-Encode] – Select if you connect this unit’s HDMI OUT or
DIGITAL AUDIO OUT jack to a device with DTS decoder.
[Primary Pass-Thru] – Select if you connect this unit’s DIGITAL
AUDIO OUT and HDMI OUT jack to a device with LPCM, Dolby
Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS and DTS-HD decoder.

Note:
When [HDMI] option is set to [PCM Multi-Ch], the audio may output as
PCM Stereo if the PCM Multi-Ch information is not detected from HDMI
device with EDID.
Sampling Freq. (Only for SPDIF audio)
[192KHz] – Select this if your A/V Receiver or Amplifier is capable of
handling 192 KHz signals.
[96KHz] – Select this if your A/V Receiver or Amplifier is NOT capable
of handling 192 KHz signals. When this choice is made, this unit automatically
converts any 192 KHz signals to 96 KHz so your system can
decode them.
[48KHz] – Select this if your A/V Receiver or Amplifier is NOT capable
of handling 192 KHz and 96 KHz signal. When this choice is made,
this unit automatically converts any 192 KHz and 96 KHz signals to 48
KHz so your system can decode them.
Check the documentation for your A/V Receiver or Amplifier to verify its
capabilities.
DRC (Dynamic Range Control)
When a disc encoded in Dolby Digital or Dolby Digital Plus is playing back,
you may wish to compress the dynamic range of the audio output (the difference
between the loudest sounds and the quietest ones). This allows
you to listen to a movie at a lower volume without losing clarity of sound.
Set DRC to [On] for this effect.


                                                   HDMI OUT
                                          PCM           PCM           DTS           Primary
Source                               Stereo       Multi-Ch     Re-encode   Pass-Thru

Dolby Digital                      PCM 2ch    PCM 5.1ch     DTS Dolby     Digital
Dolby Digital Plus                PCM 2ch    PCM 7.1ch     DTS Dolby     Digital Plus
Dolby TrueHD                     PCM 2ch    PCM 7.1ch     DTS             Dolby TrueHD
DTS                                 PCM 2ch    PCM 5.1ch     DTS             DTS
DTS-HD                            PCM 2ch    PCM 5.1ch     DTS             DTS-HD
Linear PCM 2ch                  PCM 2ch    PCM 2ch        DTS             PCM 2ch
Linear PCM 5.1ch               PCM 2ch     PCM 5.1ch     DTS             PCM 5.1ch
Linear PCM 7.1ch               PCM 2ch     PCM 7.1ch     DTS             PCM 7.1ch


if i use both lg bd player and the pioneer 519, what setup will i use for the latest codecs?

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iiinas on Jan 23, 2010 at 10:57 AM
pasensya na po noob po

ito naka lagay sa audio setup ng lg bd370:

HDMI / SPDIF (Digital Audio Output)
Select the output sound format when a device equipped with a HDMI or
Digital Audio input jack is connected to the HDMI OUT or DIGITAL AUDIO
OUT jack on this player.
[PCM Stereo] – Select if you connect this unit’s HDMI OUT or
DIGITAL AUDIO OUT jack to a device with two-channel digital stereo
decoder.
[PCM Multi-Ch] (HDMI only) – Select if you connect this unit’s
HDMI OUT jack to a device with multi-channel digital decoder.
[DTS Re-Encode] – Select if you connect this unit’s HDMI OUT or
DIGITAL AUDIO OUT jack to a device with DTS decoder.
[Primary Pass-Thru] – Select if you connect this unit’s DIGITAL
AUDIO OUT and HDMI OUT jack to a device with LPCM, Dolby
Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS and DTS-HD decoder.

if i use both lg bd player and the pioneer 519, what setup will i use for the latest codecs?



from your lg your setting should be pcm multi-ch. connect via hdmi.

lg (hdmi out) --> pioneer (hdmi in) --> pioneer (hdmi out) --> your lcd/plasma panel (for video).

you should get all the codecs being played from your bd. but as i have said. your pioneer's screen will only display the words "pcm multi" and not the audio codecs you choose from your bd's menu (example: tru hd, dts ma, dts or dolby digital). the reason is the pioneer is only hdmi 1.2 and not the newer 1.3b. but dont worry, even if it does not display it on the receiver's display. it is surely playing the codec you chose on the bd disc.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Othan on Jan 23, 2010 at 11:09 AM
okay cleared,  thanks very much  :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: bebot santos on Feb 05, 2010 at 03:44 PM
Mga Gurus, please removed if OT, just want to ask if it is ok to pay around 2.7k for the repair of my VSX-511 at west ave, service center or I buy an lower end of pioneer. TIA
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dips15 on Feb 11, 2010 at 05:07 PM
Mga Gurus, please removed if OT, just want to ask if it is ok to pay around 2.7k for the repair of my VSX-511 at west ave, service center or I buy an lower end of pioneer. TIA

IMHO, it really depends if you have a budget to upgrade and if you want to upgrade.  With the repair, you may end up using the receiver for years to come.  If your contented with the features and the performance, then have it repaired.  But if you want or need the newer features, and if you have the budget to boot, then buy a newer model. 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: bebot santos on Feb 12, 2010 at 03:05 PM
Thank you sir for that reply, I have the budget, but still I'm contemplating, sayang din kasi un altough 110v lng, nabili ko kay Mr. Fonacier but performance wise ok na for entry level.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: keema on Feb 12, 2010 at 03:33 PM
mga sirs planning to buy this model VSX 1019 okies po ba? anyone po na nakakita na nito? deciding whether this or marantz SR7003..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dips15 on Feb 12, 2010 at 05:49 PM
Thank you sir for that reply, I have the budget, but still I'm contemplating, sayang din kasi un altough 110v lng, nabili ko kay Mr. Fonacier but performance wise ok na for entry level.

Since you don't seem to excited about buying a newer AVR with fancier features, I'm guessing that you don't really see the need to upgrade.  Some members have upgraded for newer features such as HDMI capabilities, DD/DTS-HD, or auto room correction features.  If you feel you don't need these features yet, then there's no need to take the plunge.  

Repairing the unit will cost you 2.7k.  Lower end of pioneer will cost you around 15k (I think).  Either way, I don't think it will break your bank.  Just go ahead and have your old AVR repaired.  Even if you decide you wanted a newer model, I think you can sell the repaired unit at the marketplace for more than 2.7k.  That's still better than junking the unit, which you will have to do if you don't have it fixed.  If you don't want the hassle of selling it, you might even find some kind of use for it in the future for a second set-up.  Sayang din naman especially kung magagamit pa naman.  
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Feb 14, 2010 at 07:05 AM
I asked the sales rep of Pioneer in SM Fairview about the availability of newer "19" receivers and he told me that a week from now these will be available in SM appliances stores. For the VSX-919 this will be priced P29,995.00. The 1019 might be P40k up.

The 919 is priced recently at 399$ in Amazon and the 1019 at 499$ i dont know if the price is still the same. If you have a vacationing relative from US pabili na lang kayo dun..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: gunslinger on Feb 14, 2010 at 08:10 AM
I have long ago given up sa mga sales rep ng SM especially when it comes to electronics. Its either they are blatantly trying to con you thinking that you know next to nothing on what you are canvassing or wala din sila alam sa product nila and they just blurt out the first thing that comes into their mind. Better go to Western or Anson's if you are looking for Pioneer receivers locally. And they give great deals too.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vx2 on Feb 14, 2010 at 10:15 PM
The 919 is priced recently at 399$ in Amazon and the 1019 at 499$ i dont know if the price is still the same. If you have a vacationing relative from US pabili na lang kayo dun..

True. Padala nalang kayo sa bbox actually. At $60 per box, you can jam in a LOT of additional stuff in there too.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dips15 on Feb 14, 2010 at 11:14 PM
I have long ago given up sa mga sales rep ng SM especially when it comes to electronics. Its either they are blatantly trying to con you thinking that you know next to nothing on what you are canvassing or wala din sila alam sa product nila and they just blurt out the first thing that comes into their mind. Better go to Western or Anson's if you are looking for Pioneer receivers locally. And they give great deals too.

For better deals, best to stay away from SM.  Sa lahat ng appliance stores, sila lang ang talagang fixed pricing.  

As for competency though, pare-pareho lang dapat lahat.  Halos wala naman talagang sales staff that are really under SM.  Maybe sa cashier lang and a minimal number of sales people.  Although they do help each other at times in discussing other brands, most of the sales staff in the major appliance stores are agents of the different brands.  The distributor of Pioneer is the one who does the training of its personnel and is the one assigning sales personnel to the different chains.  Unfortunately though, most of the distributors fail in properly training their sales personnel with the information that the consumers usually require.  

Madalas pa na feeling mo nangingimbento na ng sagot.  

But for pioneer, I find that the one assigned to Ansons in ortigas was very helpful.  I'm just not sure if he's still there though.  Talked to him a few months back pa. 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Feb 27, 2010 at 09:19 AM
http://gizmodo.com/5480790/av-receiver-battlemodo-600-or-bust

Guys! gizmodo did a AV receiver review of 4 $600 receivers. Pioneer comes out on top, then Onkyo, followed by Denon, with Yamaha at dead last.

You might want to check out the link above.

Also can somebody tell me where i can buy this particular model ==> Pioneer VSX-1019AH-K

thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Feb 27, 2010 at 09:43 AM
You can order that model from Western or Automatic Centre. Malamang pwede din sa Abenson at Anson's.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vx2 on Feb 27, 2010 at 10:16 AM
Sorry for posting this all over the place, just a good starting point reference for newbies and oldies alike:


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(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/02/battlemodo-chart.png)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: wharfejay on Apr 13, 2010 at 01:22 PM
Good day mga gurus! Just want to ask which of the two speakers (PolkAudio TSI series & Wharfedale diamond 10 series) will fit on Pioneer VSX-819H-K AVR? TIA!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 13, 2010 at 04:24 PM
Good day mga gurus! Just want to ask which of the two speakers (PolkAudio TSI series & Wharfedale diamond 10 series) will fit on Pioneer VSX-819H-K AVR? TIA!

Either will do great. Give them a listen just to be sure.

The Polks are easier to drive, and would play loud without much stress. The Wharfes have a warmer signature though, if you like this sound.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: knefut on Apr 20, 2010 at 08:07 PM
mga sirs planning to buy this model VSX 1019 okies po ba? anyone po na nakakita na nito? deciding whether this or marantz SR7003..

any luck in finding this model sir?

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Blu-devil on Apr 27, 2010 at 10:26 PM
I'm looking at the new VSX-1120-B any idea of local price? Replies in English only please.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 28, 2010 at 03:05 AM
http://gizmodo.com/5480790/av-receiver-battlemodo-600-or-bust

Guys! gizmodo did a AV receiver review of 4 $600 receivers. Pioneer comes out on top, then Onkyo, followed by Denon, with Yamaha at dead last.

You might want to check out the link above.

Also can somebody tell me where i can buy this particular model ==> Pioneer VSX-1019AH-K

thanks!

you may want to check listening room or listen up look for oliver pe i believe they sell this before at 40K maybe lower by now
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 28, 2010 at 03:06 AM
mga sirs planning to buy this model VSX 1019 okies po ba? anyone po na nakakita na nito? deciding whether this or marantz SR7003..

according to my friend who owns an audio video gear shop, this is one of the best sounding he herad for the price of around 40K before.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Apr 28, 2010 at 07:26 AM
if the 919 na mas mura is available better get that instead of the 1019 --ang pagkakaiba lang nila ay yung video upscaler ng 1019.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 23, 2010 at 08:46 AM
Proud owner of a pre-owned VSX-RS319V from my master guru Stagea.  :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jun 23, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Proud owner of a pre-owned VSX-RS319V from my master guru Stagea.  :D

Bnew sayo yan, pinagamit mo lang sakin. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Othan on Jul 25, 2010 at 10:01 PM
went to trinoma yesterday, auditioned the pio using the cheapest Jamo; didn't like the sound and left.  but while walking i remembered asking someone regarding the use of a receiver and using xenon speakers (my 6 years old AX-205), he said it could be used but on a low volume because the speakers will be damaged. soi went back to the store and asked them if they could attach a xenon speakers and play it.  Lo and Behold, it sounded loud and better than the Jamo. well i was sold to Pio and now happily attached to my xenons.  Well of course its temporary. Now, saving up for better speakers.  I was thinking of using my old Pioneer speakers (8-ohms, as seen in the picture) as fronts and buy wharfedale WH-2 surround and center and wharfedale sub.  ;D

for the moment, my 6 y/o Xenon still kicks ass.  ;D

(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5116/07242010426.jpg)

(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4117/07252010427.jpg)

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(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4131/07252010429.jpg)

(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4682/07252010447.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jul 26, 2010 at 02:18 AM
Congrats with the new receiver sir! This is a great way to get HD Audio. :)

It's nice that Pioneer trickled down HD Audio capability down to the entry level.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 26, 2010 at 08:16 AM
Don't forget to set your speaker sizes or settings to small.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Othan on Aug 10, 2010 at 09:53 PM
I replaced the xenon satellite fronts with my old pioneer (3-way speakers) set to large and my xenon sub (60W yata) to SW PLUS. I watched SHOT 'EM UP, so far, OK and still clear ang dialogues, yung bayo kapag may sumasabog, parang nasa likod ng LCD naggagaling.  Nung umikot si clive owen while firing his sub-machine gun, galing!  umiikot din ang lipad ng mga bala sa surrounds ko (xenon satellite din  ;D).  by the way, the movie is from a DVD disc played on a bd player with settings using DTS-ES 6.1 (yun ang available sa DVD).  also used the DD 5.1 pero mas malakas DTS  :D

still contemplating if im going to buy a WH-2 center and surround (set to large (pwede ba yun)) and OMNI S8, liit lang budget  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: khestoi on Aug 23, 2010 at 03:15 PM
Sir anong model yang pio na binili mo at san sa trinoma ka nag audition? May nakita lang akong pioneer dun dati sa ansons. Kaso nung tinanong ko ung salesperson sabi player daw ung receiver. Hehehe.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Othan on Aug 23, 2010 at 06:16 PM
just an entry level pioneer receiver VSX-520.  try mo sa western beside National bookstore and Automatic center 3rd floor beside fitness center
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dannielsimone on Aug 24, 2010 at 12:50 PM
Ok....pulled the trigger and got the Diamone 9 series.  My fronts are the 9.6 and am doing demos to see which receiver matches best.  Started my  demo and observing was a fellow DVD member, sir ShogDGreat.  We got to chatting and he joined me as he was there to buy a pair of Diamond 9.1's and also came to demo receivers with an eye on figuring out which would match up best with Wharfs.  (He actually told me he was most interested in Denon and that was his objective today....to see how they matched up with the 9.1.)We demoed Pioneer, Yamaha, Onkyo and then Denon.  Shog also brought his friends and family who took interest in our demo.  Let me start off by saying that all of us agreed on the best of the bunch as well as those that were  not.  I can not tell you all the model numbers but remember prices But perhaps Shog can shed some lite as well.

At the bottom of the list and what was most UNIMPRESSIVE was the Denon and very close to that was the Yamaha. I WILL ADD THAT OF THE 4 RECEIVERS THESE TWO WERE THE MOST EXPENSIVE!    The Pioneer (VSX-520 5.1) which was the cheapest in price was not bad at all in fact it was less than  1/2 the price of the previous two tested. Shog and I were  impressed with the revealing detail yeilded by this entry level receiver.   This left me wanting to her more from Pioneer but a higher end 7.1 unit.  We next demoed the Onkyo and without going in to the long story...simply put.... The best reciever  for the "objective of matching them with warfs"  was  by far  the Onkyo  507.  It created a driving force in these wharfs that was lacking in the previous three.  The highs and lows all came together. The base was so  tight and pronounced that shog and I imediately turned to one another and commented.  The demo was over.

Of these 4 brands we listened to there was a "hands down" clear winner. Onkyo by a country mile.  I soon left Shog and his crew but not before he told me  that the 9.1's and the Onkyo 507 were going home with him. I guess Shog found his "pefect match".

And I am getting closer to finding the reciever to make my Wharfs sing!






.
Hi Mr dannielsimone. Actually the one we auditioned was Onkyo 508 not 507. At first im eyeing on Denon 1611 which is 3d ready just like 508. When I arrived in S&S, Mr danniel was there and auditioning the pioneer at first. Then i ask one of the staff to audition the Denon 1611. Mr danniel got my attention when he played his demo cd (def leppard) which is one of my favorite rock band. That time he was auditioning the onkyo 508 and i was impressed by the sound coming from wharf 9.4 and mirage omni subwoofer. The slam was very good for me and the detail is just fine for my ears. Then we test the yamaha for comparison and the yamaha was too far for onkyo. Both receivers was tested using their default settings in tone control. I found the yamaha lacking of treble and the slam is not as good as onkyo. Then I said to danniel to try the denon 1611. Then when we played again the same music, i was disappointed. I thought 1611 will sound good because of the reviews i read about 1610. The bass was not there just like there is no sub. Then we ask Mr jhun of S&S that maybe there is something wrong with the setup. Then he said every setup are identical. He check the sub, settings and it is set on yes. Maybe denon will sound good if you will do some tweaking in its tone control. However the detail of the denon is just ok for me.
        So my rating for the 4 receivers will be:

1. Onkyo 508
2. Pioneer 520 (if im not mistaken)
3. Denon 1611
4. Yamaha (?)

This is just only for my own preference maybe what is good for me may not be good for others. That's why always audition first before you buy.
I was ended to bring the onkyo 508, wharf 9.1 and omni s10 mirage subwoofer...... Grin Grin Grin
I would like to thanks PDVD for educating me in this hobby and also to Mr dannielsimone in choosing my first HT......So far im very happy to my purchase. Cheesy

__________________________________________________________________________________________


SO GUYS...ANY OF YOU PIONEER FANS USING WHARFEDALES?  I AM THINKING ABOUT DOING A HEAD TO HEAD DEMO BETWEEN THE ONKYO 608 VS THE PIONEER 920 OR 1020? 

WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cls on Sep 14, 2010 at 07:37 PM
Here's a comparison between onkyo608, denon 791(1911), and pioneer 1020k:

http://winstonsreviews.com/?p=330 (http://winstonsreviews.com/?p=330)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: davsacluti on Sep 17, 2010 at 02:17 PM
Hi. i would like to ask what speakers would go well with the VSX-519 receiver ?
I am currently using Jamo S406 5.0 speakers with it and would like to change it in the near future.
Would probably use this system for 30% audio and 70% HT and games via the PS3.
Budget would probably top out at 20k if it would include a subwoofer to make it a 5.1 set.

Hope to hear from the experts here.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Sep 18, 2010 at 09:42 AM
Quote
Hi. i would like to ask what speakers would go well with the VSX-519 receiver ?
I am currently using Jamo S406 5.0 speakers with it and would like to change it in the near future.
Would probably use this system for 30% audio and 70% HT and games via the PS3.
Budget would probably top out at 20k if it would include a subwoofer to make it a 5.1 set.

Hope to hear from the experts here.  ;)

Let's start with what you want to change with your current speakers. What is enticing you to replace them?

The only decent 5.1 set that I know that would fit that budget is the Wharfedale HCP 9. Of course that 20k can also be spent on a good subwoofer, to augment your current speakers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: davsacluti on Sep 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM
Let's start with what you want to change with your current speakers. What is enticing you to replace them?

The only decent 5.1 set that I know that would fit that budget is the Wharfedale HCP 9. Of course that 20k can also be spent on a good subwoofer, to augment your current speakers.

If i would probably change the speakers, it would be the center since the dialogue doesn't come clearly without having to turn up the speaker level to match the fronts and also the fronts since they seem to be missing the upper treble range that i hear when using my AKG K271 headphones. even having the treble EQ way up deosn't seem to help with that problem since the tweeter can't reproduce that range that well.

The subwoofer that i am using now seems to do it's job but the speakers are what keeps me bugging me.  :P

Hope i am not imposing in any way since i just want it to sound good enough that i can enjoy it without nitpicking it's faults.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Sep 18, 2010 at 02:38 PM
You may be able to get decent front speakers (Left/Right/Center) for that money. You can use your current towers as surround speakers. :D

Check out the Polk RTi A1 bookshelves + CSi A4 center speak. AVShop / Marc may be able to help you. PM him to schedule an audi. Take your receiver with you so that you can hear if the components do match. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on Oct 15, 2010 at 08:47 PM
Just got me a VSX-520 (to replace my busted Denon 1907). Question on connectivity of the 520 with my other gears.

Gears:
VSX-520
Panny 42PV8
WDTV
Pio DV600
Wii
PS3

Which is better? Also, can you tell me why it is better than the other options.

1. Connect the WDTV, PS3 and DV600 to the 520 via HDMI. Then HDMI out from the 520 to the Panny.
2. Connect the WDTV and DV600 via HDMI to the Panny. Use optical/coax and connect to the 520. PS3 connects to the 520 via HDMI and out to the Panny.
3. Connect the WDTV, DV600 and PS3 to the Panny via HDMI (and switcher) then connect the Panny to the 520.

The Wii is connected to the AVR for audio via composite cables and the video is directly connected to the Panny.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: davsacluti on Oct 15, 2010 at 09:41 PM
Just got me a VSX-520 (to replace my busted Denon 1907). Question on connectivity of the 520 with my other gears.

Gears:
VSX-520
Panny 42PV8
WDTV
Pio DV600
Wii
PS3

Which is better? Also, can you tell me why it is better than the other options.

1. Connect the WDTV, PS3 and DV600 to the 520 via HDMI. Then HDMI out from the 520 to the Panny.
2. Connect the WDTV and DV600 via HDMI to the Panny. Use optical/coax and connect to the 520. PS3 connects to the 520 via HDMI and out to the Panny.
3. Connect the WDTV, DV600 and PS3 to the Panny via HDMI (and switcher) then connect the Panny to the 520.

The Wii is connected to the AVR for audio via composite cables and the video is directly connected to the Panny.

Thanks!

For me i would go with option number 1 since it saves up on the cables you need to connect to the HDTV.
Also let's the receiver decode the HD audio that the PS3 puts out.  ;)
It also makes you not worry about what video input setting to put the panny HDTV since you would only need to connect one HDMI cable to it.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on Oct 16, 2010 at 06:28 AM
Thasks -- it also means that I have to have my VSX on at all times right? Well except for watching TV/cable.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: davsacluti on Oct 16, 2010 at 09:20 AM
Thasks -- it also means that I have to have my VSX on at all times right? Well except for watching TV/cable.
yup that would be the tradeoff.
But all of the devices you need connected need sound anyway so for me i don't see it as a setback.

You could connect some of the devices that do not have HDMI to the receiver via their respective digital audio outputs to the receiver then it's video output to the panny.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on Oct 17, 2010 at 07:18 AM
Naisip ko din yun. Pero sayang din yung features ng VSX if I don't use it. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: pyeponce on Oct 17, 2010 at 08:38 AM
sir jeyps11_c, where did you get your 520? and how much? thinking of getting this soon, pero nakita ko pa lang na price is mga 15k+ sa sm appliance center.

also, anybody tried pairing pioneer with a-audio speakers? was thinking of going that route.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Blackstar on Oct 18, 2010 at 09:47 AM
good morning masters. i'm just starting with this addiction and i really need your help. i got these wharfedale wh-2 surround and center speakers.  can anyone suggest a good low end pioneer receiver for them? also, what else do i need to purchase in order to come up with a 5.1 surround system. i'm thinking of having a sub custom made for this  setup. anybody know where i can have this done? i'm planning to use it for my htpc setup.  my motherboard already has an optical out.  any suggesstion would be greatly appreciated.  if you could post the price of the item i would need for the said setup, that would be most awesome... TIA!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on Oct 18, 2010 at 10:00 AM
sir jeyps11_c, where did you get your 520? and how much? thinking of getting this soon, pero nakita ko pa lang na price is mga 15k+ sa sm appliance center.

also, anybody tried pairing pioneer with a-audio speakers? was thinking of going that route.

The Listening Room sa Megamall. I think prices of the 520 is standard sa mga suking tindahan. If there is a price difference it's very minimal (15,990; 15,999; 15,950). The Listening Room had the BDO promo (Buy Now, Pay Next Year) that is why I got it there.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 18, 2010 at 07:37 PM

also, anybody tried pairing pioneer with a-audio speakers? was thinking of going that route.

I did. I'm using an entry level pio receiver with assorted A-audio models of speakers. Works very well for me naman.

good morning masters. i'm just starting with this addiction and i really need your help. i got these wharfedale wh-2 surround and center speakers.  can anyone suggest a good low end pioneer receiver for them? also, what else do i need to purchase in order to come up with a 5.1 surround system. i'm thinking of having a sub custom made for this  setup. anybody know where i can have this done? i'm planning to use it for my htpc setup.  my motherboard already has an optical out.  any suggesstion would be greatly appreciated.  if you could post the price of the item i would need for the said setup, that would be most awesome... TIA!

Lowest entry level pioneer costs around P14-15k i think. Madaming naka-custom sub dito sa PDvd. Browse lang sir and read their posts. You would need an external amplifier to amplify the preamp signals coming from your receiver's sub output. You can also try to contact marcopilyo. I got my sub amp from him. May mga drivers din siya and enclosures. Pwede ka din naman magpagawa sa iba ng enclosure if you have a good design. Mine is tuned to 23hz and i'm very happy with it.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: pyeponce on Oct 19, 2010 at 03:42 AM
thanks for the feedback sirs jeyps11_c and Nelson.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Archie on Oct 19, 2010 at 06:25 AM
can i pair the vsx-520 with 4 ohm speakers?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Oct 19, 2010 at 07:31 AM
can i pair the vsx-520 with 4 ohm speakers?

It'd still work, but expect more stress on the receiver, lalo na kung low sensitivity yan speakers mo (or madalas nagiging capacitive yung load). Sa small room walang problema, but as you crank up the volume tumataas yung current demands nyan.

If possible, stick with the 6-8 ohm recommendation for entry level receivers. Maraming fairly sensitive 6-8 ohms speaks na good match sa entry level receivers. :)

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Blackstar on Oct 19, 2010 at 03:37 PM
Lowest entry level pioneer costs around P14-15k i think. Madaming naka-custom sub dito sa PDvd. Browse lang sir and read their posts. You would need an external amplifier to amplify the preamp signals coming from your receiver's sub output. You can also try to contact marcopilyo. I got my sub amp from him. May mga drivers din siya and enclosures. Pwede ka din naman magpagawa sa iba ng enclosure if you have a good design. Mine is tuned to 23hz and i'm very happy with it.

magastos pala talaga tong addiction na pinasok ko. whew! anyway, thanks for the reply sir Nelson.  so ang dami ko pa pala kelangan bilihin bago ko ma-experience ang high ng isang good audio system.  i actually had sir marco in mind for the customized subs. i'm just waiting for his reply. so it's not enough that i have a receiver? i also need an external amplifier? magkano kaya total if i were to buy these components (starter's setup lang sana para di masakit sa bulsa).  i'm glad there's this thread that could help me get started with my bisyo. more power mga masters! wag sana kayo magsawa on helping out noobs like me. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 19, 2010 at 04:32 PM
magastos pala talaga tong addiction na pinasok ko. whew! anyway, thanks for the reply sir Nelson.  so ang dami ko pa pala kelangan bilihin bago ko ma-experience ang high ng isang good audio system.  i actually had sir marco in mind for the customized subs. i'm just waiting for his reply. so it's not enough that i have a receiver? i also need an external amplifier? magkano kaya total if i were to buy these components (starter's setup lang sana para di masakit sa bulsa).  i'm glad there's this thread that could help me get started with my bisyo. more power mga masters! wag sana kayo magsawa on helping out noobs like me. :)

you need an external amplifier for the subwoofer. Kung starter set-up, pwede naman ang mga HTibs. Home Theater in a box. Mga P10k, completo na pati player. You're good to go. kaso baka mabitin ka lang sa volume and SQ. Try mo din. It might satisfy you naman. Eh di solve ang problema mo.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Blackstar on Oct 23, 2010 at 05:24 PM
you need an external amplifier for the subwoofer. Kung starter set-up, pwede naman ang mga HTibs. Home Theater in a box. Mga P10k, completo na pati player. You're good to go. kaso baka mabitin ka lang sa volume and SQ. Try mo din. It might satisfy you naman. Eh di solve ang problema mo.  ;)

Thanks again for the help sir Nelson. I don't think I'll be satisfied with an HTib setup. Tingin ko mabibitin lang ako. Especially now that I'm developing this craving for a good quality sound system. Would you recommend getting a receiver from Raon? Heard they have good items there too.  Sad to say, di pa reply si sir marcopilyo sa pm ko on the custom subs. I see a good possibility of this coming into fruition as the "bonus" season is fast approaching. Hehehe... :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 23, 2010 at 08:58 PM
Thanks again for the help sir Nelson. I don't think I'll be satisfied with an HTib setup. Tingin ko mabibitin lang ako. Especially now that I'm developing this craving for a good quality sound system. Would you recommend getting a receiver from Raon? Heard they have good items there too.  Sad to say, di pa reply si sir marcopilyo sa pm ko on the custom subs. I see a good possibility of this coming into fruition as the "bonus" season is fast approaching. Hehehe... :)

I've never auditioned recievers from Raon so i cannot help you with that. Try to call Marco na lang. masmabilis. Actually, masmaganda, open ka na lang ng thread for your concern. Kindly post your working budget na lang din. A lot of experienced HT gurus like our master HT Onkyo aka Tirso are more than willing to extend a helping hand for newbies like you who want to maximize their budget.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Archie on Oct 27, 2010 at 06:34 AM

what can you say about this review?

It is sound quality that really counts, but the VSX-520K wasn't quite as good as we'd hoped. We found that it sounded slightly harsh, and music seemed a little flat where it had more space and depth on the other receivers. Ultimately, it’s hard to recommend the 520-K when the Onkyo SR308 generally matches it for features, provides better sound quality.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Oct 28, 2010 at 10:22 PM
what can you say about this review?

It is sound quality that really counts, but the VSX-520K wasn't quite as good as we'd hoped. We found that it sounded slightly harsh, and music seemed a little flat where it had more space and depth on the other receivers. Ultimately, it’s hard to recommend the 520-K when the Onkyo SR308 generally matches it for features, provides better sound quality.



Well the 308 is indeed a more refined-sounding receiver (Onkyo changed their sonic signature for the 2010 models), but I've never considered the Pioneer sound as harsh. Pioneers sound a bit warmer/darker than many other brands though (it's probably closer to HK in terms of tonal balance).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on Nov 02, 2010 at 12:00 PM
good day mga bossing..
patulong po..

meron akong pioneer vsx-810s na reciever, ang problema ko ayaw gumana nung surround back ko...
i know the terminals are ok, kasi pag sinelect ko yung SB to function as Sub-woofer may sound naman ang subwoofer ko pag dun naka connect, pero pag ordinary speaker walang sound... hindi ko tuloy mapagana as DTS ES...

can somebody help me on this... thanks in advance..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 02, 2010 at 02:55 PM
good day mga bossing..
patulong po..

meron akong pioneer vsx-810s na reciever, ang problema ko ayaw gumana nung surround back ko...
i know the terminals are ok, kasi pag sinelect ko yung SB to function as Sub-woofer may sound naman ang subwoofer ko pag dun naka connect, pero pag ordinary speaker walang sound... hindi ko tuloy mapagana as DTS ES...

can somebody help me on this... thanks in advance..

Double check mo yun wire na ginamit mo. Connections, kung old speaker yun surround mo, baka may putol na connection sa loob etc. Just start from the wire to your surround back.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on Nov 02, 2010 at 08:15 PM
Double check mo yun wire na ginamit mo. Connections, kung old speaker yun surround mo, baka may putol na connection sa loob etc. Just start from the wire to your surround back.
i know the wire is ok, kasi po pag naka configure yung SB to function as a Sub-woofer, may sound output po ang Sub... pero pag naka DTS ES na po, wala ng audio ang speaker na naka connect sa SB terminal..
kahit po sa test tone pa lang, wala ng audio ang SB ko..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on Nov 12, 2010 at 08:26 PM
good day mga bossing..
patulong po..

meron akong pioneer vsx-810s na reciever, ang problema ko ayaw gumana nung surround back ko...
i know the terminals are ok, kasi pag sinelect ko yung SB to function as Sub-woofer may sound naman ang subwoofer ko pag dun naka connect, pero pag ordinary speaker walang sound... hindi ko tuloy mapagana as DTS ES...

can somebody help me on this... thanks in advance..
up ko lang po.. baka may makatulong sa akin.. thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Nov 13, 2010 at 05:46 AM
xeroichi - e check mo baka naka SUB option yung Surround Back  mo. Dapat naka SPEAKER option yan. The receiver has the capability to power up a passive sub kung yung surround back ay na sa sub option. try mo
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on Nov 13, 2010 at 10:10 AM
xeroichi - e check mo baka naka SUB option yung Surround Back  mo. Dapat naka SPEAKER option yan. The receiver has the capability to power up a passive sub kung yung surround back ay na sa sub option. try mo
naka speaker naman po.. pero wala pa rin audio.. yung nga po ang pinagtataka ko, kasi pag naka sub woofer sya, may audio po yung naka connect na sub sa SB terminal pero pag ginawa ko ng speaker, wala na pong audio ang kahit anong speaker na gamitin ko..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 13, 2010 at 08:32 PM
naka speaker naman po.. pero wala pa rin audio.. yung nga po ang pinagtataka ko, kasi pag naka sub woofer sya, may audio po yung naka connect na sub sa SB terminal pero pag ginawa ko ng speaker, wala na pong audio ang kahit anong speaker na gamitin ko..

Kung bago pa yan AV/R mo, return it sa dealer. May warranty yan. Or better yet, let a representative of the dealer check your system.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on Nov 13, 2010 at 10:01 PM
Kung bago pa yan AV/R mo, return it sa dealer. May warranty yan. Or better yet, let a representative of the dealer check your system.
luma na po ito, bigay lang sa akin ng lolo ko.. pinaglumaan niya..
baka dalhin ko na lang sa service center pag wala na talaga...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Nov 14, 2010 at 07:43 PM
Mga sir inquire ko lang po.. mabilis ba talaga mag-init ang vsx-520? kasi yung sakint 1 mvie pa lang maiinit na po sya? another thing po does anyone knows where I can get an auxiliary fan na 220V? balak ko po sana patungan ng fan sa top yung reciever para po makabawas sa init. TIA po!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 14, 2010 at 07:56 PM
Mga sir inquire ko lang po.. mabilis ba talaga mag-init ang vsx-520? kasi yung sakint 1 mvie pa lang maiinit na po sya? another thing po does anyone knows where I can get an auxiliary fan na 220V? balak ko po sana patungan ng fan sa top yung reciever para po makabawas sa init. TIA po!

Alam ko, kung "maligamgam" ang init niya, normal lang. Check mo mga ventilation holes baka may nakaharang.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Nov 15, 2010 at 12:16 AM
Sir Nelson thanks for the reply po.. tama po kayo maligamgam po sya ganon po sya nung hinipo ko after watching a DVD po... bagong bili lang po yung reciever po and all the ventilation is fine. another thing po does anyone knows where I can get an auxiliary fan na 220V? balak ko po sana patungan ng fan sa top yung reciever para po makabawas sa init. TIA po!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 15, 2010 at 01:18 AM
Recent Pioneers suck cool air from underneath and release warm air from the top. This works through convection, and that means it's normal for the top to be warm (air only flows once the heatsinks had warmed the air inside).

If you want to cool this actively with minimal flow disruption, you can either slowly feed air from underneath, or suck air from the top.

220VAC fans are available at many places like Alexan, Deeco and sometimes even SOS. I personally haven't seen any need for it though, as long as you don't run speakers that are very difficult to drive.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Nov 15, 2010 at 02:56 AM
Thanks for the reply sir Stagea. I'm just not use to the warm feeling on the chasis of my new reciever that is why I'm planning place an auxiliary fan on top to it to suck out the hot air. Thanks for the heads out where to buy the fan. Some of my friends advise me that it is only available in RAON buti na lang meron sa mga friendly electronic shops. thanks again.

what are the compatible speakers for this reciever? what brand is the most compatible? I'll be using it 90% movie and 10% music. TIA!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: juanch on Nov 15, 2010 at 05:57 AM
^ http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,70456.1470.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,70456.1470.html)

Go A-audio  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 15, 2010 at 05:57 AM
It should be able to drive most entry level speakers without a problem. Choose a set that suits your listening preference.

Look for speakers that introduce a benign load (consistently high impedance) with fairly low capacitance and high sensitivity, if you're dead set on keeping the temperatures low.

Check out the Polk TSi series, to see if they suit your taste (they're quite inexpensive and are easy to drive).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on Nov 15, 2010 at 07:55 AM
@Satgea - how about the Wharfe Diamond 9.1? Will the 520 have problems driving these speakers?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 15, 2010 at 11:09 AM
@Satgea - how about the Wharfe Diamond 9.1? Will the 520 have problems driving these speakers?

Those aren't that hard to drive (they are entry level speaks afterall), but still demand quite a bit more current than Polks to get the same volume level. Have you tried them with the Pioneer? That pairing can have a tendency to sound a bit dark (of course you can compensate with tone controls).

What speakers do you have?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on Nov 15, 2010 at 03:02 PM
Those aren't that hard to drive (they are entry level speaks afterall), but still demand quite a bit more current than Polks to get the same volume level. Have you tried them with the Pioneer? That pairing can have a tendency to sound a bit dark (of course you can compensate with tone controls).

What speakers do you have?

That's my combo right now: Pioneer 520K, Wharfe 9.1, WH2 Center and Surrounds (although the surrounds are not yet hooked up). Our room is roughly 4x3. Also using an entry level 10" sub (USAudio).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 15, 2010 at 10:41 PM
That's my combo right now: Pioneer 520K, Wharfe 9.1, WH2 Center and Surrounds (although the surrounds are not yet hooked up). Our room is roughly 4x3. Also using an entry level 10" sub (USAudio).

I see. Try playing with the tone controls to even out the sound (if you encounter response issues). Your receiver would not have issues driving those speakers in your room.

You can also raise your crossover freq to 100Hz (or higher), if you want to reduce the load on the receiver (the WH-2 surrounds are designed to cross high anyway). Just watch out for sub localization.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tonteng on Nov 18, 2010 at 04:02 PM
I'm planning to buy a pioneer 520k. got a very small room and a mid entry level receiver should suffice..problem is..anong entry speakers ang pede ko bilin for the 520k (limited budget kasi). Any feedback or suggestions would be appreciated
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 18, 2010 at 09:57 PM
I'm planning to buy a pioneer 520k. got a very small room and a mid entry level receiver should suffice..problem is..anong entry speakers ang pede ko bilin for the 520k (limited budget kasi). Any feedback or suggestions would be appreciated

How small po ang very small?

If 5.1 set ang balak mo, Mordaunt Short Premiere or Wharfedale Diamond 9 HCP are quite compact. If you need something even smaller, pwedeng Polk Audio RM705 or JBL SCS145.5. Make sure that you listen to the set, to see if it meets your expectations.

Of course, if you have the budget and space for full-sized speakers and a stronger sub, then by all means go for those. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: igogan on Nov 19, 2010 at 08:36 AM
new here.. which is better pioneer vsx910 or onkyo 508?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tonteng on Nov 23, 2010 at 09:42 AM
How small po ang very small?

If 5.1 set ang balak mo, Mordaunt Short Premiere or Wharfedale Diamond 9 HCP are quite compact. If you need something even smaller, pwedeng Polk Audio RM705 or JBL SCS145.5. Make sure that you listen to the set, to see if it meets your expectations.

Of course, if you have the budget and space for full-sized speakers and a stronger sub, then by all means go for those. :)

salamat sir..baka mag bookshelf speakers na lang ako ng mordaunt short. or hanap na lang ako ng package pioneer 5.1 speakers
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Nov 25, 2010 at 09:52 AM
Besides SnS are there other A/V shops selling the VSX 920?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 25, 2010 at 10:15 AM
Besides SnS are there other A/V shops selling the VSX 920?

try listening room in megamall look for minnie or oliver pe

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Nov 25, 2010 at 10:24 AM
try listening room in megamall look for minnie or oliver pe


ok bro tnx -- ill contact them

Sns is selling this at 27.5k i think. are there shops offering lower than this?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2010 at 07:41 AM
ok bro tnx -- ill contact them

Sns is selling this at 27.5k i think. are there shops offering lower than this?
try avshop, pero afaik mababa na ang 27.5k  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Nov 29, 2010 at 05:17 PM
try avshop, pero afaik mababa na ang 27.5k  :)

AVshop i think does not carry pioneer receivers bro , thats why it is indorsing the HK -dun ko na audition yung HK 160.

Yeah I agree medyo mababa itong 27.5 ng SnS - SM is offering the vsx 920 for 29.999 though. walang tawad. Western pwede hanggang 28.  ;)

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Dec 04, 2010 at 08:29 PM
Mga sir question lang po..I'm not sure kung dito po ba dapat i-post ito. I'm using the coax connection from source to receiver and watching pirates of the carribean and titanic. My reciever is only showing DD on the display and I cannot change it when I set my source to SPDIF/RAW. But when I set the source to SPDIF/PCM I can use the other dsp function on the reciever such as neo6: cinema, neo6 music and other features. My question is why po ganon pag naka raw lang yung source di po ba yung receiver ang mag dedecode nung audio? which means dapat po eh magagamit ko yung ibang feature like nung neo6. but the other way around happens pag SPDIF/PCM dun ko nagagamit yung ibang feautres pag SPDIF/RAW lock sya sa DD. any idea? Pasensya na po kayo sa newbie question ko and TIA!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on Dec 06, 2010 at 08:26 PM
mga sir, question lang po.. meron kasi akong pioneer vsx-810s... pag pinower on ko siya, may lumalabas sa display na "poweroff", tapos mamatay na ulit? ano po ang problema pag ganito? ano ang cause?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 06, 2010 at 10:58 PM
Mga sir question lang po..I'm not sure kung dito po ba dapat i-post ito. I'm using the coax connection from source to receiver and watching pirates of the carribean and titanic. My reciever is only showing DD on the display and I cannot change it when I set my source to SPDIF/RAW. But when I set the source to SPDIF/PCM I can use the other dsp function on the reciever such as neo6: cinema, neo6 music and other features. My question is why po ganon pag naka raw lang yung source di po ba yung receiver ang mag dedecode nung audio? which means dapat po eh magagamit ko yung ibang feature like nung neo6. but the other way around happens pag SPDIF/PCM dun ko nagagamit yung ibang feautres pag SPDIF/RAW lock sya sa DD. any idea? Pasensya na po kayo sa newbie question ko and TIA!

The other DSP functions are usually to create a surround sound field from 2 channel sources. When your source is set to SPDIF/PCM, it sends a 2 channel PCM signal over SPDIF (in your case, your coaxial connection)... allowing you to select different sound modes.

Setting it to SPDIF/RAW enables your source to stream the audio signal in raw form, leaving the receiver to do the decoding. If the receiver sees more than 2 channels of data upon decoding, it disables the 2ch-oriented sound modes.

That is how it should normally be. If you want to experience discrete multi-channel audio through SPDIF, let the receiver do the decoding.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Dec 07, 2010 at 01:43 AM
I see. Thanks po sir Stagea for the prompt reply and enlightenment.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jerix on Dec 07, 2010 at 06:11 AM
mga sir, question lang po.. meron kasi akong pioneer vsx-810s... pag pinower on ko siya, may lumalabas sa display na "poweroff", tapos mamatay na ulit? ano po ang problema pag ganito? ano ang cause?

I think 810 requires 8ohms speakers -- baka 6 ohms gamit mo kaya nag auto shutoff. Meron akong 811 and it does not like 6ohms speakers, auto shut off din siya. Anthony of AAudio put something in the speaker to make it 8 ohms so the problem was resolved. Check also your connection baka me nag-short na speaker wires.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 07, 2010 at 12:53 PM
mga sir, question lang po.. meron kasi akong pioneer vsx-810s... pag pinower on ko siya, may lumalabas sa display na "poweroff", tapos mamatay na ulit? ano po ang problema pag ganito? ano ang cause?

Try mo disconnect yung speaker wires tignan mo kung mangyayari pa din. If so, malamang may sira yung receiver.

If not, tignan mo kung may shorted sa mga kawad mo or baka may nakasaksak ka sa both speaker A at speaker B at the same time and nakaset to A+B yung receiver. Pwede rin may sira kang speaker, or talagang masyado lang mababa impedance ng speaks mo.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Dec 07, 2010 at 09:07 PM
Mga sir question po ano po ba ang difference front heights and surround back. kasi po sa pio 520 meron ito and I don't know the user and what pre-amp ang pwede? can I use my existing Konzert 502A amp po? TIA!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on Dec 08, 2010 at 03:59 PM
I think 810 requires 8ohms speakers -- baka 6 ohms gamit mo kaya nag auto shutoff. Meron akong 811 and it does not like 6ohms speakers, auto shut off din siya. Anthony of AAudio put something in the speaker to make it 8 ohms so the problem was resolved. Check also your connection baka me nag-short na speaker wires.  ;)
dai-ichi speakers ang gamit ko.. 4-8ohms ang rated impedance..
paano ba macheck kung 8ohms pa rin ang speaker? ano ang pwedeng gawin kung sakaling bumaba na nga ang impedance niya?been using the speakers kasi since 2003 pa..

Try mo disconnect yung speaker wires tignan mo kung mangyayari pa din. If so, malamang may sira yung receiver.

If not, tignan mo kung may shorted sa mga kawad mo or baka may nakasaksak ka sa both speaker A at speaker B at the same time and nakaset to A+B yung receiver. Pwede rin may sira kang speaker, or talagang masyado lang mababa impedance ng speaks mo.
nagawa ko na po yun bago ako magpost dito.. pero ganun pa rin po..
bago mangyari ito, nagpalit ako ng speaker wires.. pero nung tiningnan ko yung speaker wires ok naman..
nagpalit muna ako ng AV receiver, yung vsx-509s ang ginamit ko.. ok siya for more than a week tapos ayun, biglang nag "poweroff" na rin siya...

paano po ba macheck kung bumaba nga ang impedance ng speaker? may kalumaan na rin po kasi yung gamit ko na dai-ichi speakers.. although 4-8ohms ang rated impedance niya.. gamit ko siya since 2003 pa, dolby pro-logic pa lang ang receiver ko nun..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 09, 2010 at 07:03 AM
^ disconnect all wires and run the amp. pag di nag-off, yung speakers mo may problem.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 09, 2010 at 09:00 AM
paano po ba macheck kung bumaba nga ang impedance ng speaker? may kalumaan na rin po kasi yung gamit ko na dai-ichi speakers.. although 4-8ohms ang rated impedance niya.. gamit ko siya since 2003 pa, dolby pro-logic pa lang ang receiver ko nun..

Well it's better if you have an impedance plot from the manufacturer (or measured by a third party). Without that, you can tell from the quoted impedance alone that it probably drops to 4 ohms (most likely 4 ohms minimum, 8 ohms nominal).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on Dec 09, 2010 at 11:52 AM
i had my 509 & 810 checked by a technician...
sira yung malaking IC na nakakapit sa heatsink... isa ang sira sa 509 at isa rin ang sira sa 810..
luckily, parehas ng model ng IC yung isang sira sa 509 at yung buo sa 810 kaya pinaswap ko muna..
so my 509 is working fine again.. but before i put back the system, pina check ko muna kung normal pa rin ang impedance ng speakers ko.. normal naman daw..

saan kaya nakakabili ng replacement IC ng pioneer receiver?

salamat po ulit sa lahat ng nag reply.. 

^ disconnect all wires and run the amp. pag di nag-off, yung speakers mo may problem.
nagawa ko na po yun... pero nag-off pa rin..

Well it's better if you have an impedance plot from the manufacturer (or measured by a third party). Without that, you can tell from the quoted impedance alone that it probably drops to 4 ohms (most likely 4 ohms minimum, 8 ohms nominal).
i had my speakers check by a technician, sabi normal naman daw ang impedance..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 09, 2010 at 05:33 PM
2 receivers na sinira ng speakers, i'd be wary to use them again. if those are 3-way speakers pacheck mo each driver (woofer/midrange/tweeter). pag may 1 driver na open circuit and it has a 2nd order crossover, the inductor and capacitor would form a resonant circuit that can destroy an amp. sorry kung medyo techie, nadyan naman si google para ipaliwanag further.  ;) basta it's best to retire those speakers and wires or have them checked more thoroughly before reusing them.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on Dec 09, 2010 at 07:13 PM
2 receivers na sinira ng speakers, i'd be wary to use them again. if those are 3-way speakers pacheck mo each driver (woofer/midrange/tweeter). pag may 1 driver na open circuit and it has a 2nd order crossover, the inductor and capacitor would form a resonant circuit that can destroy an amp. sorry kung medyo techie, nadyan naman si google para ipaliwanag further.  ;) basta it's best to retire those speakers and wires or have them checked more thoroughly before reusing them.
yan nga ang nasa isip ko.. sa kahapon, bago ko ikabit ulit yung speakers.. pinacheck ko muna yung speaker ko sa technician, since hindi ako masyadong marunong sa tester.. :D dahil 3 way nga ang gamit ko, pina check ko each driver.. yung wires naman, nung isang araw ko pa napa check kung shorted.. hindi naman daw, pero hindi ko na rin ginamit.. pero no choice pa ako sa speakers, wala kasi talaga akong magagamit kaya pina check ko na lang muna each driver pati yung crossover.. ok naman daw..

bago tuluyang masira yung 509 ko, pinakiramdaman ko yung ibabaw nung receiver at mas mainit nga siya kumpara sa normal.. pero ngayon ok na ulit ang operating temparature niya..

kung bumaba ba ang impedance ng speaker, may paraan para maibalik sa 8ohms?

thanks! :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 10, 2010 at 05:13 AM
kung bumaba ba ang impedance ng speaker, may paraan para maibalik sa 8ohms?

thanks! :D
hindi nagbabago yun unless it has burnt coil, at which open circuit na.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on Dec 10, 2010 at 11:25 AM
hindi nagbabago yun unless it has burnt coil, at which open circuit na.  ;)
saang coil sir? sa driver o sa crossover niya?
pasensya na po.. sobrang noob lang talaga, pag dating sa ganyan.. ;D thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Dec 15, 2010 at 09:28 PM
i'm planning to get the vsx420 (if i don't see a ganzklar 616 soon). i have a very small room and i'll be using it 40% games, 40% movies (dvd & blu ray) and 20% music. which entry level speakers are best matched with this avr? pwede na ba yung mga affordable 5.1 sets from jamo or konzert?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nsp on Dec 15, 2010 at 11:08 PM
How small po ang very small?

If 5.1 set ang balak mo, Mordaunt Short Premiere or Wharfedale Diamond 9 HCP are quite compact. If you need something even smaller, pwedeng Polk Audio RM705 or JBL SCS145.5. Make sure that you listen to the set, to see if it meets your expectations.

Of course, if you have the budget and space for full-sized speakers and a stronger sub, then by all means go for those. :)

sir, saang shop meron itong mga na mention mo na speakers.
are you also familiar with the aaudio genesis set? would it blend well with the 520?
as an expert, what would you suggest to a noob like me? budget is 15k give or take a couple of k.
tia
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 15, 2010 at 11:18 PM
sir, saang shop meron itong mga na mention mo na speakers.
are you also familiar with the aaudio genesis set? would it blend well with the 520?
as an expert, what would you suggest to a noob like me? budget is 15k give or take a couple of k.
tia

Makisagot lang ako sir. Busy pa si master Stagea sa pagbibilang ng paldo paldong salapi.  ;D

Mezzo meron sa 5th Ave. Wharfs, JBL, Polk, if your in QC, si AVShop. or kay S&S.

Re Genesis. Bring your AV/R kina Anthony. I'm sure very accomodating siya.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 16, 2010 at 09:33 AM
The Mordaunt Short Premiere speaks can be purchased from 5th Ave. / Avesco (stocks are dwindling for this series). As for the Wharfedale Diamond 9 HCP set, it's Western Appliance who usually has this. Automatic Centre often had the JBL SCS145.5 on sale in the past (I'm not sure if they still do). AVShop can help you with the Polk Audio RM705.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stalkermania on Dec 22, 2010 at 08:46 PM
Hi. I am planning to buy a pio 820k. I would like to know who already have a speaker setup for this avr. I'm planning to have a wharf diamond 10 series. Hope to have some inputs from you guys.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: pa3ck608 on Dec 22, 2010 at 10:11 PM
Hi. I am planning to buy a pio 820k. I would like to know who already have a speaker setup for this avr. I'm planning to have a wharf diamond 10 series. Hope to have some inputs from you guys.

Nice choice of receiver. It was actually my first choice (over the onkyo508) before i decided to stretch a bit and go for the onkyo 608. I beleive its the best in its class because it is feature-packed and is really a bang for the buck for just around 22++k. For me, bagay na bagay yan sa wharf 10.1 because I was able to audition both together. Hindi mahirap hanapan ng speakers especially if you are on a budget. Bilin mo na sir.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stalkermania on Dec 23, 2010 at 07:28 AM
Nice choice of receiver. It was actually my first choice (over the onkyo508) before i decided to stretch a bit and go for the onkyo 608. I beleive its the best in its class because it is feature-packed and is really a bang for the buck for just around 22++k. For me, bagay na bagay yan sa wharf 10.1 because I was able to audition both together. Hindi mahirap hanapan ng speakers especially if you are on a budget. Bilin mo na sir.

Thanks sir pa3ck608 for your input. Actually, its already a decision. I am just curious on other setup with this receiver. The onk 608 "was" also part of my options but due to budget limitation.... i will go for pio... and sir you are right about its features.. its really impressive ... value for money talaga... Madami kasi akong planong connectivities with this receiver eh, such as ps3, ky vivaus mini, dvd player, ipod touch, ixtreamer, etc. so i have a long way to go... but first of all, i have to purchase first the pio 820k, then the speakers and avr... I will surely buy it by January 2011. The best price given to me is P22.5 k in western. Do you know the price in other stores such as avshop, listening room, sns, etc.?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: yer2010 on Jan 01, 2011 at 08:31 AM
Guys I need help here with my Pio VSX-D912K.  I've noticed that when playing music, the sub doesn't sound well or strong enough to make a booming sound unlike when playing DVD movies.  On research from the web, I found out that Pio had factory preset the sub to playing dvd movies only and not on music.  I recently bought Amp4v2 of Mr Pilyo but didn't help either to boost the bass.  It's a waste.

What should I do to boost the bass and keep Mr Pilyo's Ampr4v2?

NOTE:  When playing cds and/or music hijacked from the net, the bass from the front speakers (a pair of 2-way 15" @ 8 ohms) and Center speaker (two 8" woofers series together to run the Speaker @ 16 ohms as well as the surrounds [6" dual voice drivers @ 8 ohms]) are booming enough to wake the neighbors 5 houses away.  But the SUB don't!

Please help!

Many tnx.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jan 01, 2011 at 10:02 AM

What should I do to boost the bass and keep Mr Pilyo's Ampr4v2?

NOTE:  When playing cds and/or music hijacked from the net, the bass from the front speakers (a pair of 2-way 15" @ 8 ohms) and Center speaker (two 8" woofers series together to run the Speaker @ 16 ohms as well as the surrounds [6" dual voice drivers @ 8 ohms]) are booming enough to wake the neighbors 5 houses away.  But the SUB don't!

Please help!

Many tnx.

Set the speakers to small and select a bass management frequency. That will make the receiver route the low frequencies to your sub.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Jan 01, 2011 at 02:03 PM
@yer2010

Sir Stagea is right, Set all the speakers to small so it will route all Low frequencies to the subwoofer. Try to play with the crossover on your reciever, start with 80 then pataas. make sure din na ang phase knob ng sub mo is set to 0 then yung crossover knob all the way to the highest para lahat ng frequency na ibabato na reciever mo is ma proproduce nya so walang loss na sound. hope this helps...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 01, 2011 at 02:40 PM
@yer2010

Sir Stagea is right, Set all the speakers to small so it will route all Low frequencies to the subwoofer. Try to play with the crossover on your reciever, start with 80 then pataas. make sure din na ang phase knob ng sub mo is set to 0 then yung crossover knob all the way to the highest para lahat ng frequency na ibabato na reciever mo is ma proproduce nya so walang loss na sound. hope this helps...

Wala atang phase & xover option ang pilyo amp so expected na yun receiver ang magmanage lahat. Pero that is weird kasi i'm using a pio entry level AV/R pero sa DIY sub ko paired with pilyo amp, i can pump out more than descent lows to rattle my sala seats. There is a possibility, pwede din sa gain ng receiver or sa gain in pilyo amp. Had that problem before sa pilyo amp. I didn't adjust the gain. Factory gain setting ni pilyo is mababa.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tonteng on Jan 01, 2011 at 06:35 PM
nosebleed ako dito..meron na ako pioneer 520k..whafdale 9.1...tsaka PolkAudio 110..di ko maintindihan  para saan yung frequencies sa receiver.. and settings for the sub... hayyy ???
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Conan on Jan 01, 2011 at 06:50 PM
nosebleed ako dito..meron na ako pioneer 520k..whafdale 9.1...tsaka PolkAudio 110..di ko maintindihan  para saan yung frequencies sa receiver.. and settings for the sub... hayyy ???

Either read the manual, use Google or read Pinoy DVD forum extensively.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 01, 2011 at 08:52 PM
nosebleed ako dito..meron na ako pioneer 520k..whafdale 9.1...tsaka PolkAudio 110..di ko maintindihan  para saan yung frequencies sa receiver.. and settings for the sub... hayyy ???
cutoff frequency yung mga nasa receiver.
which simply means, the limit you want for your speakers. 
meron din tinatawag na hi pass and and low pass filter.
btw you have to be specific kung may tanong ka.  para naman di ka masagot ng RTFM or google-in mo nalang  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: yer2010 on Jan 02, 2011 at 10:43 AM
Many thanks Stagea, I'll do as suggested and let you know the result hereinafter.  Happy New Year!


Set the speakers to small and select a bass management frequency. That will make the receiver route the low frequencies to your sub.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: yer2010 on Jan 02, 2011 at 10:48 AM
Wala atang phase & xover option ang pilyo amp so expected na yun receiver ang magmanage lahat. Pero that is weird kasi i'm using a pio entry level AV/R pero sa DIY sub ko paired with pilyo amp, i can pump out more than descent lows to rattle my sala seats. There is a possibility, pwede din sa gain ng receiver or sa gain in pilyo amp. Had that problem before sa pilyo amp. I didn't adjust the gain. Factory gain setting ni pilyo is mababa.


Would you kindly show me how to increase the receiver's gain?  All I can do is to set the sensitivity to 96.5 db for all my speakers but dunno how to go about the gain!

Tnx.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 02, 2011 at 10:54 AM

Would you kindly show me how to increase the receiver's gain?  All I can do is to set the sensitivity to 96.5 db for all my speakers but dunno how to go about the gain!

Tnx.

I'm not familiar with your pio AV/R. pero it should be under channel level sub option. I'm not also familiar if your AV/R can or has options re speaker sensitivity... Baka the 96db you were referring to is not for speaker sensitivty but for channel level or gain na nga.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tonteng on Jan 02, 2011 at 11:40 AM
I'll just try all the possible settings na lang..kung ano yung magandang tunog..yun na lang siguro  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: yer2010 on Jan 02, 2011 at 11:41 AM
I'm not familiar with your pio AV/R. pero it should be under channel level sub option. I'm not also familiar if your AV/R can or has options re speaker sensitivity... Baka the 96db you were referring to is not for speaker sensitivty but for channel level or gain na nga.  ;)


If it's the gain na nga, ala pa rin lakas ang sub kahit ilagay ko sa 100 db, pero let me switch the speakers 1st to small even they're large @ 15 inchers.

Tnx.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 02, 2011 at 04:25 PM

If it's the gain na nga, ala pa rin lakas ang sub kahit ilagay ko sa 100 db, pero let me switch the speakers 1st to small even they're large @ 15 inchers.

Tnx.

Have you tried checking sa gain ng amp4v2 mo? Yeka, ano ba ang sub mo? What enclosure type?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: yer2010 on Jan 03, 2011 at 06:26 AM
Have you tried checking sa gain ng amp4v2 mo? Yeka, ano ba ang sub mo? What enclosure type?

Indeed there was some changes on the sub when I changed the settings of the speakers from Large to Small but my Konzert Thunder Bass 12" woofer used for the sub needs some coil (perhaps) repair 'coz it sounds terrible.  I guess I need to buy a 2 ohms sub to match Mr Pilyo's Amp4v2.  Thereafter, maybe I can hear it well!  ;D

Many thanks guys for the inputs.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jan 03, 2011 at 07:51 PM
speaking of subs, i have a passive sub at lying around the house. is it possible to hook it up to a pioneer vsx 520 while i svae up for replacement speakers?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 03, 2011 at 08:05 PM
Passive sub = sub w/o amplification

ot possible sir. You need to amplify the signal from the sub line output of your AV/R.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jan 03, 2011 at 08:53 PM
Passive sub = sub w/o amplification

ot possible sir. You need to amplify the signal from the sub line output of your AV/R.

so i'm gonna need a seperate amp to power the sub. thanks. i'm just gonna wait till i get some funds to get an active sub. meanwhile, i'm going to take the plunge and get the vsx520 come wednesday. i hope taping finishes early
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jan 05, 2011 at 05:30 PM
after over a month of deliberation and research i took the plunge and bought a pioneer vsx520. was able to set it up in no time at all and that's without reading a thing from the manual. xbox 360, dvd and fm radio good to go. using some old jvc satellite speakers until i decide on what speakers to get.

was able to play a round of black ops and see a bit of fantastic four on dvd. ok pa naman ang tunog kahit 35 watts each lang yung 5 speakers and without a sub. nakaka excite kumuha ng mas powerful speakers!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: pa3ck608 on Jan 05, 2011 at 06:27 PM
after over a month of deliberation and research i took the plunge and bought a pioneer vsx520. was able to set it up in no time at all and that's without reading a thing from the manual. xbox 360, dvd and fm radio good to go. using some old jvc satellite speakers until i decide on what speakers to get.

was able to play a round of black ops and see a bit of fantastic four on dvd. ok pa naman ang tunog kahit 35 watts each lang yung 5 speakers and without a sub. nakaka excite kumuha ng mas powerful speakers!

Congrats to your new toy sir. Simula na yan...next for you are speakers..., nmt..,bluray player..,receiver again.., speakers again...hehe  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jan 05, 2011 at 07:06 PM
Congrats to your new toy sir. Simula na yan...next for you are speakers..., nmt..,bluray player..,receiver again.., speakers again...hehe  ;D

may lg bd550 blu Ray player nako plus DVD player and xbox360. Speakers na Lang kulang tapos quit na ko sa pagbabasa dito sa pinoydvd. Hahaha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 05, 2011 at 07:50 PM
Congrats! PMed you.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Conan on Jan 05, 2011 at 08:10 PM
may lg bd550 blu Ray player nako plus DVD player and xbox360. Speakers na Lang kulang tapos quit na ko sa pagbabasa dito sa pinoydvd. Hahaha

Ha-ha! Siguro nga you have to quit visiting Pinoy DVD if you want the spending to end!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jan 06, 2011 at 12:46 AM
Congrats! PMed you.  ;)

thanks man. but i'm set on using floorstanders and monopoles. thinking of pairing my reciever with genesis set FS, BS and center or the todoroki set

@conan: that is the only way to avoid the dreaded SARS!meron pa naman av rack, cables, harmony remote etc etc. so maybe it doesn't really end there
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 06, 2011 at 01:30 AM
Ang 530K ba meron auto calibration (like the Audyssey for Denon) option? I was reading the manual parang wala akong nakita na ganun. But when I look at the specs sa net it says that it has that capability.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Jan 06, 2011 at 03:04 AM
sir question lng kaya po ba ng vsx520 ang wharfedale 9.4??
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stalkermania on Jan 06, 2011 at 07:12 AM
Ang 530K ba meron auto calibration (like the Audyssey for Denon) option? I was reading the manual parang wala akong nakita na ganun. But when I look at the specs sa net it says that it has that capability.

maybe you're pertaining to Pio VSX-520k not 530...
wala pa talagang calibration mic yang model na yan
sa Pioneer VSX-820k, meron na
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stalkermania on Jan 06, 2011 at 07:13 AM
sir question lng kaya po ba ng vsx520 ang wharfedale 9.4??

Pwedeng pwede bro!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Jan 06, 2011 at 03:23 PM
@stalkermania

bumiili po kasi ako sa s&s ng diamond 9.1 and 9 cs. nag ask ako dun sa mga technician nila kung kaya pa kung mag add ako ng 9.4 sabi nila baka daw hindi na kayanin baka daw mahirapan na yung receiver. (vsx 520)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stalkermania on Jan 06, 2011 at 03:46 PM
@stalkermania

bumiili po kasi ako sa s&s ng diamond 9.1 and 9 cs. nag ask ako dun sa mga technician nila kung kaya pa kung mag add ako ng 9.4 sabi nila baka daw hindi na kayanin baka daw mahirapan na yung receiver. (vsx 520)

theortically pwede yan... but if in doubt, audition pa rin ang best way...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 06, 2011 at 06:27 PM
maybe you're pertaining to Pio VSX-520k not 530...
wala pa talagang calibration mic yang model na yan
sa Pioneer VSX-820k, meron na

Typo  ;D 520K nga.

Wala nga siya mic. So if I get a mic will I be able to do an auto-calibration? Kasi parang wala sa manual how to do it if ever you get hold of a compatible mic. Ang nakalagay lang (sa manual and sa net) is there is an mic input sa front for auto-calibration. Pero it was never mentioned in the manual pano siya gawin  ???
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stalkermania on Jan 06, 2011 at 06:59 PM
Typo  ;D 520K nga.

Wala nga siya mic. So if I get a mic will I be able to do an auto-calibration? Kasi parang wala sa manual how to do it if ever you get hold of a compatible mic. Ang nakalagay lang (sa manual and sa net) is there is an mic input sa front for auto-calibration. Pero it was never mentioned in the manual pano siya gawin  ???

ala siyang mic input so you can do manual calibration only
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Jan 07, 2011 at 06:35 PM
Mga sir..how do you manuall calibrate the pio vsx-520K.. I have this reciever I just wanna know how to calibrate it. thanks po in advance.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stalkermania on Jan 07, 2011 at 08:03 PM
Mga sir..how do you manuall calibrate the pio vsx-520K.. I have this reciever I just wanna know how to calibrate it. thanks po in advance.

tweak each channel according to your hearing preference. I think that's the only way.
you can use audiophile or other loss less audio codecs
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 07, 2011 at 08:29 PM
Mga sir..how do you manuall calibrate the pio vsx-520K.. I have this reciever I just wanna know how to calibrate it. thanks po in advance.

you can get this for 3k only

(http://www.mkcinternational.com/splmeter.jpg)

product link (http://www.mkcinternational.com/accessories.html)
Quote

The essential Radio Shack (TM) Sound Pressure Level Meter.


Proper calibration of your surround sound system, including your SVS subwoofer, is not only easy, it's downright critical! On the left is a Sound Pressure Level (SPL) meter; using one is akin to checking your car tires with an air pressure gauge. If you don't have one (the SPL meter that is), by all means stop reading this now and get one! We prefer this model to the digital display SPL meter due to the analog version's ease in getting spot-on adjustments (though either can work well).

Why is calibration of the levels of your surround system so important? Well, think of it this way...in the old days you could just adjust  the "Balance" knob on your stereo and get that center image (of the singer, or various instruments) "just right". Try to imagine doing that with 6 channels of a digital surround sound system for a minute! Get any of those channels out of balance by a few decibels (dBs... something all but certain without a meter) and the complex realism of the soundstage DVDs and the new high resolution music formats are capable of  goes right out the window.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stalkermania on Jan 07, 2011 at 08:43 PM
you can get this for 3k only

(http://www.mkcinternational.com/splmeter.jpg)

product link (http://www.mkcinternational.com/accessories.html)

sir, where is this available?
other model options?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 07, 2011 at 08:49 PM
sir, where is this available?
other model options?
click on the product link bro, mikec ang supplier  :)
calibration takes less than 10 minutes  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stalkermania on Jan 07, 2011 at 08:57 PM
click on the product link bro, mikec ang supplier  :)
calibration takes less than 10 minutes  ;)

thanks..  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jan 08, 2011 at 09:36 PM
is it normal for the vsx520 to heat up more and faster during music mode as opposed to watching movies? i just noticed that when watching movies (multiple films in a row) the reciever's temperature is just warm. but while playing music (either via cd or through the portable audio input) it gets really hot quite quickly.

any inputs guys? medyo concerned lang ako sa health ng avr ko. tia
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jan 08, 2011 at 10:18 PM
is it normal for the vsx520 to heat up more and faster during music mode as opposed to watching movies? i just noticed that when watching movies (multiple films in a row) the reciever's temperature is just warm. but while playing music (either via cd or through the portable audio input) it gets really hot quite quickly.

any inputs guys? medyo concerned lang ako sa health ng avr ko. tia
yes normal. since half or more of the movie is dialog lang, it requires less work from your avr compared to music lalo na kung maraming bass content ang music mo. a fan to divert the heat away from your avr would help.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jan 08, 2011 at 10:30 PM
yes normal. since half or more of the movie is dialog lang, it requires less work from your avr compared to music lalo na kung maraming bass content ang music mo. a fan to divert the heat away from your avr would help.

thanks for the reply. i have about 10" clearance vertical and the sides are wide open. 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Jan 09, 2011 at 07:16 PM
Sir warmaster I had the same scenario before and a lot of our fellow PinoyDVD members advice me if I'm concerned with the temperature issue of the 520K place a fan on top of it. I bought one from DEECO in raon and it cost around 180-220 pesos other stores sells it for morethan 200. the fan can be plug directly to an AC outlet po and the size is 4x4. HTH.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Moks007 on Feb 03, 2011 at 09:09 AM
How is the pioneer vsx 520? It's priced at 15,990 6 months to pay pa ;D at anson's. Tama ba yan? I'm thinking of this for my living room with a blu-ray player ;D. Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 03, 2011 at 10:05 AM
Great entry level AVR IMO. At the price point and the features it is a very good bargain. Other will say that there are better options than the Pioneer and this may be true. But I went with the Pioneer VSX-520 and did not regret it.

Currently driving A-Audio FS, Wharfe 9.1 and CS plus a US Audio sub. PS3, WDTV, Wii and DV600 connected as well.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Moks007 on Feb 03, 2011 at 01:48 PM
Ok thanks sir. Will check it out bec. I wanna put one in my living room hehe..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: gudspeed on Feb 03, 2011 at 03:11 PM
survey: how many of us have pioneer receivers and what model?
please sign in. for future reference and change of ideas and experiences.

1. Gudspeed = vsx920k
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Feb 03, 2011 at 08:04 PM
survey: how many of us have pioneer receivers and what model?
please sign in. for future reference and change of ideas and experiences.

1. Gudspeed = vsx920k
2. jnazareta  = VSX520K

Question po... what are your configuration sa Reciever nyo? share nyo naman. kasi on my End what I did is I change the speaker distance after levelling the sounds. my fronts L&R are set to 4.0, Surround L&R 1.8, Center and Sub is set to 4.0 din. xover is set to 80. when I played my demo DVD the sounds seperation is better. share your settings naman po so for those na newbie like me will learn more salamat. po
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Feb 03, 2011 at 11:26 PM
Question po... what are your configuration sa Reciever nyo? share nyo naman. kasi on my End what I did is I change the speaker distance after levelling the sounds. my fronts L&R are set to 4.0, Surround L&R 1.8, Center and Sub is set to 4.0 din. xover is set to 80. when I played my demo DVD the sounds seperation is better. share your settings naman po so for those na newbie like me will learn more salamat. po

Sir, try mo muna to measure the actual distance of your speakers and enter that in. Pag di pa din ok, then adjust ka pakontikonti.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 04, 2011 at 12:24 AM
Question po... what are your configuration sa Reciever nyo? share nyo naman. kasi on my End what I did is I change the speaker distance after levelling the sounds. my fronts L&R are set to 4.0, Surround L&R 1.8, Center and Sub is set to 4.0 din. xover is set to 80. when I played my demo DVD the sounds seperation is better. share your settings naman po so for those na newbie like me will learn more salamat. po

Iba iba kasi ang room acoustics and distance ng speakers for each HT room so each setting ng receiver for an individual room might not be favorable in your room.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tonteng on Feb 04, 2011 at 02:27 PM
Bakit ayaw na mag dts pag ps3 gamit ko..PCM na lumalabas??   ???
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Feb 04, 2011 at 02:37 PM
Bakit ayaw na mag dts pag ps3 gamit ko..PCM na lumalabas??   ???

Setting sa PS3 most likely.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Feb 04, 2011 at 03:31 PM
Iba iba kasi ang room acoustics and distance ng speakers for each HT room so each setting ng receiver for an individual room might not be favorable in your room.

Sir try nyo po change yung settings sa PS3 sa HDMI set it to bitstream po...para raw data will be process by the reciever and not by the PS3 po.. HTH
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Feb 04, 2011 at 08:05 PM
Sa blu Ray ko naka PCM sya then Kung ano yung madetect nya na soundtrack yun ang feed Nita sa reciever. Initially PCM yung nakadisplay then magbabago either to Dolby digital or dts
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: oneirogmophobic on Feb 07, 2011 at 09:55 AM
Just finished setting up my vsx920.  Its a feature packed receiver. Sounds crisp with movies.  Yun lang, i am missing the hdmi pass through on standby.  I moved my previous Denon 1909 to the sala.  Does anyone know how to work around this problem without using any analog connections. Thanks.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: AlienD on Feb 09, 2011 at 04:28 AM
survey: how many of us have pioneer receivers and what model?
please sign in. for future reference and change of ideas and experiences.

1. Gudspeed = vsx920k


AlienD - VSX 920K
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Othan on Feb 10, 2011 at 09:27 PM

AlienD - VSX 920K

othan - VSX 520K


Great entry level AVR IMO. At the price point and the features it is a very good bargain. Other will say that there are better options than the Pioneer and this may be true. But I went with the Pioneer VSX-520 and did not regret it.

Currently driving A-Audio FS, Wharfe 9.1 and CS plus a US Audio sub. PS3, WDTV, Wii and DV600 connected as well.


my pio amp driving WH-2 surround and center, Pioneer Kazze 3-way speakers and a Xenon sub, connected with:  LG BD370, Nextbase upscaling DVD, Pensonic Karaoke DVD, Ipod touch, and a Kenwood TT via Audio Cambridge.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Feb 11, 2011 at 06:33 AM
Max numbers ("dynamic power") sell, that's why they quote them.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Feb 15, 2011 at 08:09 PM
sali na po ako dito.. vsx 520...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Feb 15, 2011 at 11:18 PM
question po mga sir... baket po sir pag nag lalaro ako sa ps3 hindi lumalabas yung dolby dts sa screen ng receiver.. PCM lng po yung nakalabas... ( sorry po kung sobrang amateur ng question ko )
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 16, 2011 at 07:43 AM
question po mga sir... baket po sir pag nag lalaro ako sa ps3 hindi lumalabas yung dolby dts sa screen ng receiver.. PCM lng po yung nakalabas... ( sorry po kung sobrang amateur ng question ko )

I'm not familiar with PS3. But i think the application might be similar to movies. The game probably does not have DTS audio. Alam ko, may PCM 5.1 din naman. If there is, i wouldn't mind PCM. Still, how do you connect your PS3's audio and video sa AV/R mo?

Let's wait for the gurus here at PDvd who are familiar with PS3 for better inputs.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Feb 16, 2011 at 08:47 AM
bali ang connection po is ps3 hdmi to receiver then receiver hdmi to lcd tv po...  akala ko lng po basta ps3 eh dts na automatic kahit anung game.. mali po ata akala ko..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: juanch on Feb 16, 2011 at 08:50 AM
bali ang connection po is ps3 hdmi to receiver then receiver hdmi to lcd tv po...  akala ko lng po basta ps3 eh dts na automatic kahit anung game.. mali po ata akala ko..

Not all games are encoded in DTS.

You also try outputting the audio in bitstream
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Feb 17, 2011 at 03:01 AM
Mga fellow PinoyDVD members just a question for pioneer VSX-520K.. Can the HDMI out connection produce video display to the LCD TV even if the source is connected to the AVR via Component or Composite? I'm just comparing po with my cousins Yamaha receiver and it can po, sa kanya po kasi even connected Component or Composite ang source it can output the video signal to HDMI out. does 520K support this function analog to digital video? salamat po in advance?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Feb 17, 2011 at 02:05 PM
Mga fellow PinoyDVD members just a question for pioneer VSX-520K.. Can the HDMI out connection produce video display to the LCD TV even if the source is connected to the AVR via Component or Composite? I'm just comparing po with my cousins Yamaha receiver and it can po, sa kanya po kasi even connected Component or Composite ang source it can output the video signal to HDMI out. does 520K support this function analog to digital video? salamat po in advance?

I don't think so. Yung Yamaha ng cousin mo is a higher model kaya meron. :)

You'd have to step up to the VSX-920-K (or higher) to get the same feature.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: bryan338 on Feb 17, 2011 at 06:02 PM
bali ang connection po is ps3 hdmi to receiver then receiver hdmi to lcd tv po...  akala ko lng po basta ps3 eh dts na automatic kahit anung game.. mali po ata akala ko..

baka makatulong po
punta ka sa audio settings ng ps3 then uncheck mo lahat except yung dolby/dolby hd, dts/dts hd, basta lahat ng pcm uncheck then try mo ulet.. lumalabas sakin dolby d pag naglalaro ako black ops
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: chris69ners on Feb 18, 2011 at 04:16 AM
bali ang connection po is ps3 hdmi to receiver then receiver hdmi to lcd tv po...  akala ko lng po basta ps3 eh dts na automatic kahit anung game.. mali po ata akala ko..

Try mo din going to Video settings on the PS3//then go to Bd/DVD Audio Output Format (HDMI)//Then select the option Bitstream.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stockHT on Feb 25, 2011 at 01:21 AM
I don't think so. Yung Yamaha ng cousin mo is a higher model kaya meron. :)

You'd have to step up to the VSX-920-K (or higher) to get the same feature.

@ jeyps

sir pano mo na connect yung wii?? kasi sabi hindi pwede sa 520 yung composite source -> 520 -> hdmi -> lcd?
balak ko kasi bumili ng wii
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Strings on Feb 25, 2011 at 01:49 PM
a few quick questions, where can i audition pioneer receivers?  :)

pioneer 1019 & 1020 seems to be highly rated based on the comparison reviews i've read but there isn't much for love for them here sa pinas, is it because of the price? or maybe the reviews i've read so far aren't too credible hehe  :P
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tempter on Feb 25, 2011 at 02:10 PM
a few quick questions, where can i audition pioneer receivers?  :)

pioneer 1019 & 1020 seems to be highly rated based on the comparison reviews i've read but there isn't much for love for them here sa pinas, is it because of the price? or maybe the reviews i've read so far aren't too credible hehe  :P

I think sa SnS meron.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 08, 2011 at 02:35 AM
Mga sir ask ko lang po kung ano ang possible the sira ng PIO 520K ko.. kasi po .. parang humina ang sound nya.. before po yung 40 na volume malakas na.. pero ngayon I have to reach 53 pa para maging OK sa pandinig ko... pati po yung sub ganon din.. I tried to play sa same movie po na OK dati pero mahina parin po.. no changes po sa settings and I have the necessary protection like AVR and surge protector po para sa receiver ko..help me naman po.. salamat in advance..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 08, 2011 at 03:20 AM
Mga sir ask ko lang po kung ano ang possible the sira ng PIO 520K ko.. kasi po .. parang humina ang sound nya.. before po yung 40 na volume malakas na.. pero ngayon I have to reach 53 pa para maging OK sa pandinig ko... pati po yung sub ganon din.. I tried to play sa same movie po na OK dati pero mahina parin po.. no changes po sa settings and I have the necessary protection like AVR and surge protector po para sa receiver ko..help me naman po.. salamat in advance..

Try to check the player settings....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 08, 2011 at 06:40 PM
Thanks po sir Courage  for the tip but I've check it na po...I even restore it to default settings yung player ko pero same issue po eh.. any more ideas po.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 08, 2011 at 09:06 PM
Thanks po sir Courage  for the tip but I've check it na po...I even restore it to default settings yung player ko pero same issue po eh.. any more ideas po.

Have you tried playing with the levels for each channel nang receiver? Baka naka set sa lowest level yung mga channels when  driving all. How about pag 2 channel stereo? Have you tired if there are changes?

Try mo din reset to default yung receiver mo.. then play with the channel levels.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 08, 2011 at 09:18 PM
Sir Courage, I already reset it and put back the same values for every channel still same issue. wala naman pong changes sa reciever settngs. and nadagdag lang is yung HTPC ko na binuo pero that was 3 weeks ago and everything is fine tapos nung Sunday lang sya humina....I have to raise the volume para maging OK sa pandinig ko...pati yung sub humina din...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 08, 2011 at 11:24 PM
Sir Courage, I already reset it and put back the same values for every channel still same issue. wala naman pong changes sa reciever settngs. and nadagdag lang is yung HTPC ko na binuo pero that was 3 weeks ago and everything is fine tapos nung Sunday lang sya humina....I have to raise the volume para maging OK sa pandinig ko...pati yung sub humina din...

And i'm guessing you are also playing the same source you played before?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 09, 2011 at 02:07 AM
Yes sir Courage, I'am using the same sources po..kaya po nagtataka ako what happened why the sounds get low po. I'll try to borrow a different reciever and a different source po to see if it's gonna be the same or baka may deprensya na pang dinig ko..wala ko kasi MACC yung pio ko and wala rin po akong SPL meter mara masukat yung sound level nya..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cls on Mar 10, 2011 at 06:13 PM
Pioneer 2011 A/V Receiver lineup :)
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 14, 2011 at 02:00 AM
Mga gurus inquire ko lang po kung iba-iba po ba ang construction or features ng pioneer VSX-520K? kasi po sa pioneer Philippines walang MACC ang 520K pero sa ibang pioneer sites meron po.. here is the link.

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/42/98/405/VSX-520-K/specs.html

gusto ko lang po malaman kung bakit sa ibang site meron MACC and 520K pero dito sa pinas pio site wala..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Mar 14, 2011 at 03:14 AM
Mga gurus inquire ko lang po kung iba-iba po ba ang construction or features ng pioneer VSX-520K? kasi po sa pioneer Philippines walang MACC ang 520K pero sa ibang pioneer sites meron po.. here is the link.

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/42/98/405/VSX-520-K/specs.html

gusto ko lang po malaman kung bakit sa ibang site meron MACC and 520K pero dito sa pinas pio site wala..

Yup, magkakaiba ang features per region. Sa regions na may MCACC (like sa EU), mas mahal ang 520 doon compared sa US and Asia Pacific.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 14, 2011 at 10:48 PM
IC..thanks po sir Stagea for the prompt reply...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Mar 15, 2011 at 12:59 AM
IC..thanks po sir Stagea for the prompt reply...

nac onfuse din ako dyan dati. but slowly natututunan na rin na iba iba ang equipment release per continent. medyo malaking bagay nga lang ang pagkawala ng MACC feature
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rexFi on Mar 15, 2011 at 07:27 AM
JAMO S 416 HCS 3 with P VSX-520 K

^ My ears caught this set up's attention dati sa The Block SM Appliances playing System of a Down and I liked it.

:) Question, since matatagalan pa ko makabili ng Sub, ok parin kaya tunog neto? (the jamo is only 5.0)

planning on getting Sub200.

Pero mamaya titingan ko sa Trinoma yung Wharfedale setup sa anson's (tapat ng Mercury) ^_^

Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: pa3ck608 on Mar 15, 2011 at 12:41 PM
JAMO S 416 HCS 3 with P VSX-520 K

^ My ears caught this set up's attention dati sa The Block SM Appliances playing System of a Down and I liked it.

:) Question, since matatagalan pa ko makabili ng Sub, ok parin kaya tunog neto? (the jamo is only 5.0)

planning on getting Sub200.

Pero mamaya titingan ko sa Trinoma yung Wharfedale setup sa anson's (tapat ng Mercury) ^_^

Thanks

pioneer and jamo brands are ok, but try to got to av specialty shops like avshop at kalayaan ave, watt-hifi sa makati, or sns etc., where you can audition different combinations of amps and speakers. medyo limited ang choices mo pag sa appliance centers kala mag sho-shopping.




Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM
pioneer and jamo brands are ok, but try to got to av specialty shops like avshop at kalayaan ave, watt-hifi sa makati, or sns etc., where you can audition different combinations of amps and speakers. medyo limited ang choices mo pag sa appliance centers kala mag sho-shopping.






+100 ako dito.. sa appliance center limited choice ka.. sa SNS and listening room dami mong pwedeng mix and match.. but best sa mga pinoy dvd members na may shop kasi may libre ka pang miryenda and tips.. hehehe..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rexFi on Mar 16, 2011 at 01:02 AM
thanks sa mga replies.

sa mga shops na yan ba mababait mga tao? hehe baka pag mix and match ko di naman pala kasya dala kong pera. kakahiya. ehehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 16, 2011 at 01:43 AM
thanks sa mga replies.

sa mga shops na yan ba mababait mga tao? hehe baka pag mix and match ko di naman pala kasya dala kong pera. kakahiya. ehehehe

sir rex.reyesiii  sa mga shop na yan.. di lang mix and match magagawa mo matetest mo rin ibang gears...hehehe... mababait po lahat yan..and OK lang po na di ka agad bibili kaya nya po ka nag auaudition to know the best that will suit your budget and OK sa pangdinig mo po.. hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Mar 16, 2011 at 03:56 AM
thanks sa mga replies.

sa mga shops na yan ba mababait mga tao? hehe baka pag mix and match ko di naman pala kasya dala kong pera. kakahiya. ehehehe

What's your maximum budget sir?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rexFi on Mar 16, 2011 at 05:24 AM
What's your maximum budget sir?

30K only for now. (the jamo+pioneer i mentioned will only cost me around 28K). ^_^

Edit: Priority #1 is surrounding the room with Music. Movies are only secondary...

thanks po for helping.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Mar 16, 2011 at 09:35 PM
sir my question lng po ako regarding pag setup ng kaiboer sa pioneer vsx520 po... hindi po kasi sya gumagana pag plug ko sya sa hdmi ng receiver dun sa dvd slot na hdmi.. gumagana lang po sya pag dun ko sya isaksak sa BD na hdmi.. ang problem lang po is my ps3 ako.. dun po nakasaksak yung ps3 ko sa BD slot.. hindi ko po alam kung paanu i configure yung kaiboer sa receiver..

help pls
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 17, 2011 at 09:50 AM
sir my question lng po ako regarding pag setup ng kaiboer sa pioneer vsx520 po... hindi po kasi sya gumagana pag plug ko sya sa hdmi ng receiver dun sa dvd slot na hdmi.. gumagana lang po sya pag dun ko sya isaksak sa BD na hdmi.. ang problem lang po is my ps3 ako.. dun po nakasaksak yung ps3 ko sa BD slot.. hindi ko po alam kung paanu i configure yung kaiboer sa receiver..

help pls
\

Sir pa clarify naman po when you say na di sya gumagana wala ring video na lumalabas sa LCD mo or wala lang audio na lumalabas sa speakers? sir kahit saan mo po i-plug yan gagana.. make sure na yung input selector is nakaset sa DVD and yung audio selection make sure na naka set sa H = HDMI..lastly sa configuration po ng 520 under setup make sure yung HDMI is AMP ang nakalagay.. and sa kaiboer po.. make sure na naka passthrough po ang HDMI.. check the manual po.. HTH...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jojo_uy on Mar 17, 2011 at 05:54 PM
sulit ba TODOROKI , o iba iba ang brand ang pag set -up , planning buy pa lang , more on bass po ako , paturo naman
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Othan on Mar 17, 2011 at 08:39 PM
sulit ba TODOROKI , o iba iba ang brand ang pag set -up , planning buy pa lang , more on bass po ako , paturo naman

pa-OT

do you happen to be jojo uy from batangas city?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Mar 17, 2011 at 09:18 PM
sulit ba TODOROKI , o iba iba ang brand ang pag set -up , planning buy pa lang , more on bass po ako , paturo naman

Madaming maayos na speakers naman, so it's best to listen to all your options muna before deciding.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rexFi on Mar 17, 2011 at 11:14 PM
additional question...

interested in setting up a 5.2 setup.

eh... im thinking of only getting the VSX-520 eh 5.1 lang na receiver yon.

soooo.. hmm? so what receiver should I get instead?

thanks.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 17, 2011 at 11:45 PM
additional question...

interested in setting up a 5.2 setup.

eh... im thinking of only getting the VSX-520 eh 5.1 lang na receiver yon.

soooo.. hmm? so what receiver should I get instead?

thanks.

i dont think there is a 5.2, you have 7.2 and 9.2 but those are mid level receivers already

waht you can do is get 5.1 and use a y connector to connect two subwoofer to one subwoofer out form a 5.1 receiver
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rexFi on Mar 18, 2011 at 12:31 AM
i dont think there is a 5.2, you have 7.2 and 9.2 but those are mid level receivers already

waht you can do is get 5.1 and use a y connector to connect two subwoofer to one subwoofer out form a 5.1 receiver

Ah ok thanks sir.

I actually saw it on youtube from a guy named MakeLuvNotKids.
Onkyo receiver niya and Klipsh Speakers and Acoustech Subs.

Click Here: Klipsch/Acoustech Home Theathre (http://"http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CCwQtwIwAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DAtHf9n_772A&ei=K0yCTbTKBcznrAeKl9DeCA&usg=AFQjCNGKMAXpzf1lIMXdqf1As1Lix_g0lA")
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jojo_uy on Mar 18, 2011 at 04:32 AM
do you happen to be jojo uy from batangas city?

sir othan  sa isabela po ako
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dmnt3d on Mar 21, 2011 at 01:52 AM
Hi Guy,
Just purchased VSX-1020K, panu iupdate ang firmware nito?

Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Cosmic79 on Mar 21, 2011 at 12:29 PM
+100 ako dito.. sa appliance center limited choice ka.. sa SNS and listening room dami mong pwedeng mix and match.. but best sa mga pinoy dvd members na may shop kasi may libre ka pang miryenda and tips.. hehehe..

Add ko rin about appliance centers, there are also too many distracting sounds and noises in their environment that it's hard for you to judge and carefully audition their sound system. Though one sales staff told me to go there on opening hours at 10am as it's still quiet at that time. Most of the high end Pioneer receivers are just available by special order only including Jamo speakers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rexFi on Mar 22, 2011 at 12:51 AM
Add ko rin about appliance centers, there are also too many distracting sounds and noises in their environment that it's hard for you to judge and carefully audition their sound system. Though one sales staff told me to go there on opening hours at 10am as it's still quiet at that time. Most of the high end Pioneer receivers are just available by special order only including Jamo speakers.

Yup, earlier or "yesterday" one sales guy have the LG HT system playing some matchbox 20 and paramore :)

anyway good thing I'm on nightshift so I see the speakers on mall openings. ^_^
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 22, 2011 at 12:58 AM
sir my question lng po ako regarding pag setup ng kaiboer sa pioneer vsx520 po... hindi po kasi sya gumagana pag plug ko sya sa hdmi ng receiver dun sa dvd slot na hdmi.. gumagana lang po sya pag dun ko sya isaksak sa BD na hdmi.. ang problem lang po is my ps3 ako.. dun po nakasaksak yung ps3 ko sa BD slot.. hindi ko po alam kung paanu i configure yung kaiboer sa receiver..

help pls

Sir any update on this.. kasi I have the same reciever and I have kaiboer 1055, OK naman on all HDMI port..gumagana.. just make sure na pag naka dvd na sa input selector make sure na yung signal selector is set to H = HDMI.. and yung sa HDMI settings ng 520 is set to AMP. then sa kaiboer make sure na yung audio settings for HDMI is RAW lang...I tried switching the HDMI cable from kaiboer to the reciever and all the HDMI port works fine with no issue...sir if hindi parin gumana.. have your reciever check kasi on my end working sya...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Cosmic79 on Mar 22, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Ok lang if you buy the subwoofer at a later time. Maybe best that you go for the Jamo s250 or s300 if your budget can allow it. I auditioned the 3 subs and mas softer and deeper ang bass ng s250 or s300. The s200 is actually in a closed enclosure while the s250/300 are ported.



JAMO S 416 HCS 3 with P VSX-520 K

^ My ears caught this set up's attention dati sa The Block SM Appliances playing System of a Down and I liked it.

:) Question, since matatagalan pa ko makabili ng Sub, ok parin kaya tunog neto? (the jamo is only 5.0)

planning on getting Sub200.

Pero mamaya titingan ko sa Trinoma yung Wharfedale setup sa anson's (tapat ng Mercury) ^_^

Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stockHT on Mar 31, 2011 at 02:46 PM
guys - to those who owned Pio 520 k, I need help.

Request sana ako ng box dimension ng Pio 520, going to ship from US kasi ng tita ko.


thanks!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tempter on Mar 31, 2011 at 03:33 PM
guys - to those who owned Pio 520 k, I need help.

Request sana ako ng box dimension ng Pio 520, going to ship from US kasi ng tita ko.


thanks!!

Try mo check sa Amazon bro, meron box dimension dun pati weight...  ;)

I could be wrong hehe! Baka yung dimension lang ng actual unit.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Apr 12, 2011 at 08:33 AM
Hi Guy,
Just purchased VSX-1020K, panu iupdate ang firmware nito?

Thanks

check the pioneer philippines website or try asking pioneer.
http://pioneer.ph/ContentDetail/Cont.asp?ContentId=637 (http://pioneer.ph/ContentDetail/Cont.asp?ContentId=637)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Apr 12, 2011 at 08:34 AM
guys gusto kong bumili ng pioneer vsx 919? pero pa kaya nagbebenta nito sa mga shops?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 12, 2011 at 12:35 PM
guys gusto kong bumili ng pioneer vsx 919? pero pa kaya nagbebenta nito sa mga shops?

Try to contact Automatic Centre. Minsan meron silang natatabi at binibigay ng lower price.

Pero 919 baka bihira ang meron kasi they rarely stock that model.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Apr 12, 2011 at 03:02 PM
this is from the rear panel of the pio819h
Guys " aux analog multi channel IN" ba ito? Will it work with something thats not a DVD player like a PC sound card?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/joesquest/vsx1.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Apr 13, 2011 at 02:47 PM
I want to know if there are big problems and bugs with the pio 919. what i wanna know is if it gets uber hot and if the power consumption is acceptable.  
Should i be concerned?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Apr 13, 2011 at 07:26 PM
Hi Guys.  Bought a VSX-1019AH, my first A/V receiver actually ... well at least in a very very long time.  I've a lot of questions but I'll put in some more study before I bother anyone with questions about the unit.

Anyone else have this same model?  Recommendations on how best to use it, or issues and problems, would be most welcome.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Apr 13, 2011 at 10:38 PM
Hi Guys.  Bought a VSX-1019AH, my first A/V receiver actually ... well at least in a very very long time.  I've a lot of questions but I'll put in some more study before I bother anyone with questions about the unit.

Anyone else have this same model?  Recommendations on how best to use it, or issues and problems, would be most welcome.

I hear xx19 series pioneers a little run hot but not as hot as onkyo's x07 series. I'm asking around owners if they suffer from heat problems.

So why did you buy the older 1019?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 14, 2011 at 07:29 AM
I hear xx19 series pioneers a little run hot but not as hot as onkyo's x07 series. I'm asking around owners if they suffer from heat problems.

So why did you buy the older 1019?

I honestly don't think that they run hot at all. They're just warm to the touch, imho. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Apr 14, 2011 at 08:18 AM
I honestly don't think that they run hot at all. They're just warm to the touch, imho. :)

yun. i shouldn't be so worried then? eh bili na ako 919 here i come.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: supermanster on Apr 15, 2011 at 07:02 AM
Good day mga Master! Newbie here looking for my 1st AVR, saw one with a price tag of 10k. store display.

Model is Pioneer VSX-519K.

Any feedback on this model? Luma na po ba ito?

Mostly audio listening ang pagagamitan ko sa small room. siguro mga 80% music 20% movies.

Salamat mga Master.

For the speakers I plan to Get the AAduio sana, i heard a lot of very good feedbacks about it.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Apr 15, 2011 at 08:47 AM
Good day mga Master! Newbie here looking for my 1st AVR, saw one with a price tag of 10k. store display.

Model is Pioneer VSX-519K.

Any feedback on this model? Luma na po ba ito?

Mostly audio listening ang pagagamitan ko sa small room. siguro mga 80% music 20% movies.

Salamat mga Master.

For the speakers I plan to Get the AAduio sana, i heard a lot of very good feedbacks about it.
IT's a very basic unit, don't expect bells and whistles from it.
You don't get the handy mcacc calibration, true HD,3d and has only 2 hdmi ports but at 10k its a steal. its a 3 year old model. baka sobrang gamit na...
Pa test nyo muna bago ka bumili.
If you can increase your budget to 13500 you can get a newer vsx-320 or vsx-420.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 15, 2011 at 09:48 AM
yun. i shouldn't be so worried then? eh bili na ako 919 here i come.

For normal use, you don't have to worry about heat issues.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Apr 16, 2011 at 10:27 AM
guys i cant find any pioneer 919's anymore at Sm appliance, SNS, western and robinsons.

has anyone seen a pioneer  919 in stock ill buy?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 16, 2011 at 12:32 PM
Try contacting Tmans to see if he still has them in stock.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Apr 23, 2011 at 09:52 PM
I hear xx19 series pioneers a little run hot but not as hot as onkyo's x07 series. I'm asking around owners if they suffer from heat problems.

So why did you buy the older 1019?

Sorry bro your question slipped by me.  

The 1019 does generate quite a bit of heat though I don't have any experience with other AVRs so whether it is hotter or not I can't really say.  It is cooler than the hard disks in my PC when I've been running the PC for quite awhile and have to open it for one reason or another.

It was a good deal I think, and reviews were very good.  The one thing though that had me hesitating was that I couldn't find anyone else talking about it here.  

I've been reading up on AVRs lately, and so far I think I'd have to spend twice or thrice to get to the "next" level - whatever that is.  The 1019 is pretty much feature packed as it is and I don't think I'll outgrow it given my current setup.  I used to think that not being THX certified was a big thing but it seems my current space is well below what certification would be meaningful in.  Having THX Neural, which the 1019 has, may prove to be more valuable.  I am a little worried it won't have enough horsepower to drive RTi A7s, not to their maximum power output, but to their "sweet" spot.

Another deficiency might be it having only HDMI 1.3 interfaces but again it turns out I don't need 1.4a since I decided last year 3D was not for me just yet.  A recent article I came across indicates I made the right choice as 3D technology is not as swell as it is made out to be by industry's big marketing push.  Heck, I'm still not convinced video handling by an AVR is all that necessary to begin with.

One thing that's got me irritated is either the 1019's remote cannot learn commands or the manual left it out all together.  If anyone knows the answer, please tell me.

 

  
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 24, 2011 at 12:39 AM

One thing that's got me irritated is either the 1019's remote cannot learn commands or the manual left it out all together.  If anyone knows the answer, please tell me.
   

That works via HDMI CEC, afaik. If all your gear are CEC compliant, it'd use the HDMI link to control your other gear.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Apr 25, 2011 at 09:34 AM
Thanks bro.  I've been assuming that Kurolink, VieraLink, etc. are all proprietary without any possibility of interoperability between different manufacturers.  A quick Google and it turns out these are actually all part of the HDMI standard.  Time to breakout the manuals again.  

....

It seems HDMI CEC is problematic on the Pioneer VSX-1019AH-K :( according several forums.  I'll still try when I get home.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 25, 2011 at 10:40 AM
Thanks bro.  I've been assuming that Kurolink, VieraLink, etc. are all proprietary without any possibility of interoperability between different manufacturers.  A quick Google and it turns out these are actually all part of the HDMI standard.  Time to breakout the manuals again.  

....

It seems HDMI CEC is problematic on the Pioneer VSX-1019AH-K :( according several forums.  I'll still try when I get home.

Media tanks, network streamers and no-name video components are the worst offenders, imho. If you have one or more connected to any of your components, try unplugging those and do a power cycle. That often fixes CEC issues (on the other hand, you lose the capability to use those disconnected components).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Apr 25, 2011 at 11:31 AM
The problems I read about on the other forums were with all well known manufacturers, with the culprit being the Pioneer VSX-1019 itself.  I'll be happy if I can get this working with our Panasonic TV and the Sony BD player I just got. 

Actually, the VieraLink between the TV and retired Panasonic HTIB never did work.  I did not really try that hard but I'm beginning to suspect that there could be issues with the inexpensive CRKing HDMI cables I like so much  :-[.  Having read about CEC, it came to mind over lunch that the CEC lines might not even be present in the cables I'm using.  Now I feel bad that my one and only Sony HDMI cable had one of its connectors come apart awhile back, and I've no decent cable to explore this CEC with.  Maybe this is why some HDMI cables are so much more expensive.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Apr 25, 2011 at 11:57 AM
Sorry bro your question slipped by me.  

The 1019 does generate quite a bit of heat though I don't have any experience with other AVRs so whether it is hotter or not I can't really say.  It is cooler than the hard disks in my PC when I've been running the PC for quite awhile and have to open it for one reason or another.

It was a good deal I think, and reviews were very good.  The one thing though that had me hesitating was that I couldn't find anyone else talking about it here.  

I've been reading up on AVRs lately, and so far I think I'd have to spend twice or thrice to get to the "next" level - whatever that is.  The 1019 is pretty much feature packed as it is and I don't think I'll outgrow it given my current setup.  I used to think that not being THX certified was a big thing but it seems my current space is well below what certification would be meaningful in.  Having THX Neural, which the 1019 has, may prove to be more valuable.  I am a little worried it won't have enough horsepower to drive RTi A7s, not to their maximum power output, but to their "sweet" spot.

Another deficiency might be it having only HDMI 1.3 interfaces but again it turns out I don't need 1.4a since I decided last year 3D was not for me just yet.  A recent article I came across indicates I made the right choice as 3D technology is not as swell as it is made out to be by industry's big marketing push.  Heck, I'm still not convinced video handling by an AVR is all that necessary to begin with.

One thing that's got me irritated is either the 1019's remote cannot learn commands or the manual left it out all together.  If anyone knows the answer, please tell me.

 

  

thanks lncc. the pioneer 1019 is a fine receiver.  the problem its so hard finding brand new ones. I found one pero still at full price shich is quite high for an old model. So im gravitating to other brands like denon or yamaha wich i can find cheaper.
I'll only time i will get into 3d is once they release those glasses less models like toshiba regza.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 25, 2011 at 01:46 PM
The problems I read about on the other forums were with all well known manufacturers, with the culprit being the Pioneer VSX-1019 itself.  I'll be happy if I can get this working with our Panasonic TV and the Sony BD player I just got. 

Actually, the VieraLink between the TV and retired Panasonic HTIB never did work.  I did not really try that hard but I'm beginning to suspect that there could be issues with the inexpensive CRKing HDMI cables I like so much  :-[.  Having read about CEC, it came to mind over lunch that the CEC lines might not even be present in the cables I'm using.  Now I feel bad that my one and only Sony HDMI cable had one of its connectors come apart awhile back, and I've no decent cable to explore this CEC with.  Maybe this is why some HDMI cables are so much more expensive.

HDMI cables should support CEC, as I believe the wiring is mandatory. It's just that the support from devices is optional. If you have doubts about the CD-R King product, the cheapest cables I've used with CEC successfully are Bandridge Value and Encore.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Apr 25, 2011 at 03:58 PM
Thanks bro.  I think I saw a display of Bandridge cables at The Listening Room which is about a 15 minute walk from my office.   Yeah the CEC wires are mentioned as necessary but so are taxes the last I heard :D ... I jest of course.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Apr 27, 2011 at 09:15 AM
it's been said (and personal experience also) that pioneer recievers are a bit bright and can be harsh sounding sometimes. now the question is: if i add a cd tube buffer in the chain would that give me a warmer tube sound for my stereo listening? or should i just get a tube/hybrid amp for my purposes? i have a very limited real estate for gears and it would be a challenge to put up a separate audio setup. tia
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Conan on Apr 27, 2011 at 09:31 AM
it's been said (and personal experience also) that pioneer recievers are a bit bright and can be harsh sounding sometimes. now the question is: if i add a cd tube buffer in the chain would that give me a warmer tube sound for my stereo listening? or should i just get a tube/hybrid amp for my purposes? i have a very limited real estate for gears and it would be a challenge to put up a separate audio setup. tia

Bro I bought a Topping TP60 amp recently which has a warm sound and with 50 watts per channel totally outclasses my Onkyo 608 in stereo mode. Last I checked there was still one available. The amp is relatively compact enough to squeeze into my room with all the HT gear:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,121044.0.html

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,136621.0.html
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Apr 27, 2011 at 09:42 AM
Bro I bought a Topping TP60 amp recently which has a warm sound and with 50 watts per channel totally outclasses my Onkyo 608 in stereo mode. Last I checked there was still one available. The amp is relatively compact enough to squeeze into my room with all the HT gear:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,121044.0.html

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,136621.0.html

problem kasi bro pag nagdagdag ako ng amp ibig sabihin nun dagdag speakers nanaman. wala na ko paglalagyan unless a: ipatong ko sa ezrah FS or b: i wall mount ko.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 27, 2011 at 01:11 PM
problem kasi bro pag nagdagdag ako ng amp ibig sabihin nun dagdag speakers nanaman. wala na ko paglalagyan unless a: ipatong ko sa ezrah FS or b: i wall mount ko.
problem kasi bro pag nagdagdag ako ng amp ibig sabihin nun dagdag speakers nanaman. wala na ko paglalagyan unless a: ipatong ko sa ezrah FS or b: i wall mount ko.

Unless there is an impedance mismatch, I suggest going for a separate system instead.

You can also try out different speakers with your AVR or play with the tone controls. Running a dedicated player connected via analogue, or using an outboard DAC with a different character may also work. There are many ways to skin a cat.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Conan on Apr 27, 2011 at 03:24 PM
problem kasi bro pag nagdagdag ako ng amp ibig sabihin nun dagdag speakers nanaman. wala na ko paglalagyan unless a: ipatong ko sa ezrah FS or b: i wall mount ko.

While my default audio speakers are small PSB speakers, sometimes I just swap the speaker wire with banana plugs to my Klipsch speakers for audio duties.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Apr 27, 2011 at 07:39 PM
Unless there is an impedance mismatch, I suggest going for a separate system instead.

You can also try out different speakers with your AVR or play with the tone controls. Running a dedicated player connected via analogue, or using an outboard DAC with a different character may also work. There are many ways to skin a cat.

i'm using a pioneer dv lx50 as a cd player connected through the dedicated stereo analog outputs. satisfied naman ako sa tunog, just thinking of adding a cd buffer to give it that warm tube sound
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stockHT on Apr 28, 2011 at 10:00 PM
mga sir question lang for pio 520k.

1.) nabasa ko na pwede sya gawing 7.1, meron syang pre-amp output. anong amp ang hindi kamahalan na pwedeng gamitin?


2.) About optical in, ang mga sources ko kasi ay xtreamer, dvd player (hdmi), PS3. 2 lang ang optical in ng 520k, yung dvd player ba kung HDMI audio&video lalabas pa din ang dts etc? or pwede ko gamitan ng coaxial?

thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on May 02, 2011 at 12:10 PM
mga sir, tanong ko lang po...
bakit po kaya nawawala ang mga settings sa AVR ko after ishutdown??
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on May 02, 2011 at 12:35 PM
mga sir question lang for pio 520k.

1.) nabasa ko na pwede sya gawing 7.1, meron syang pre-amp output. anong amp ang hindi kamahalan na pwedeng gamitin?


2.) About optical in, ang mga sources ko kasi ay xtreamer, dvd player (hdmi), PS3. 2 lang ang optical in ng 520k, yung dvd player ba kung HDMI audio&video lalabas pa din ang dts etc? or pwede ko gamitan ng coaxial?

thanks!

1) Maraming murang amps, like mga chip amp. Tingin tingin ka lang. Baka matulungan ka nila Kemozavi.

2) Dapat lumusot pa rin yung audio portion ng signal basta tama yung settings.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stockHT on May 02, 2011 at 03:21 PM
1) Maraming murang amps, like mga chip amp. Tingin tingin ka lang. Baka matulungan ka nila Kemozavi.

2) Dapat lumusot pa rin yung audio portion ng signal basta tama yung settings.

salamat sa reply sir!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on May 03, 2011 at 10:32 PM
mga sir, tanong ko lang po...
bakit po kaya nawawala ang mga settings sa AVR ko after ishutdown??
up ko lang po yung tanong ko...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jojo_uy on May 04, 2011 at 10:41 AM
sa wakas may sound system na ko , pioneer vsx 520 k , pioneer srs-33tb , marcopilyo amp4v2 2pcs JBL 12inches w/box , bale lahat 41 k pesos , tapos PC yun player ko para kahit volume 50 lang sa reciever malakas na  :D :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Cosmic79 on May 04, 2011 at 10:49 AM
sa wakas may sound system na ko , pioneer vsx 520 k , pioneer srs-33tb , marcopilyo amp4v2 2pcs JBL 12inches w/box , bale lahat 41 k pesos , tapos PC yun player ko para kahit volume 50 lang sa reciever malakas na  :D :D

Congrats Sir Jojo on your new system. Maganda rin pag computer ang source mo as ok rin ang sound quality.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on May 06, 2011 at 12:54 PM
mga sir question lang for pio 520k.

1.) nabasa ko na pwede sya gawing 7.1, meron syang pre-amp output. anong amp ang hindi kamahalan na pwedeng gamitin?


2.) About optical in, ang mga sources ko kasi ay xtreamer, dvd player (hdmi), PS3. 2 lang ang optical in ng 520k, yung dvd player ba kung HDMI audio&video lalabas pa din ang dts etc? or pwede ko gamitan ng coaxial?

thanks!

Sir, lahat yang input mo pwede mo na ipasok sa 520K. Halso same tayo ng set up: DVD, WDTV and PS3. Meron 3 HDMI input ang 520K. Both audio and video will pass through HDMI so there is no need to separate the audio via Optical or Coax. Meron din DTS decoder and 520K so wala kang problema sa format. Kelangan mo lang i out yung 520K papunta sa display mo and good to go na.

 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stockHT on May 11, 2011 at 10:25 PM
Sir, lahat yang input mo pwede mo na ipasok sa 520K. Halso same tayo ng set up: DVD, WDTV and PS3. Meron 3 HDMI input ang 520K. Both audio and video will pass through HDMI so there is no need to separate the audio via Optical or Coax. Meron din DTS decoder and 520K so wala kang problema sa format. Kelangan mo lang i out yung 520K papunta sa display mo and good to go na.

 

sir meaning yung 5.1 audio coming from xtreamer e lalabas na via hdmi na lang without the use of optical?

second question to owners ng 520k - does 520k passes the signal through to the TV if the receiver is in standby or off?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: AlienD on May 12, 2011 at 07:35 PM
sir meaning yung 5.1 audio coming from xtreamer e lalabas na via hdmi na lang without the use of optical?

second question to owners ng 520k - does 520k passes the signal through to the TV if the receiver is in standby or off?


1) YES
2) NO ,AFAIK , Enjoy ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stockHT on May 12, 2011 at 08:02 PM
sir meaning yung 5.1 audio coming from xtreamer e lalabas na via hdmi na lang without the use of optical?

second question to owners ng 520k - does 520k passes the signal through to the TV if the receiver is in standby or off?


1) YES
2) NO ,AFAIK , Enjoy ;)


oh no!!!!! kala ko may stand by pass thru ang 510k  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: xeroichi on May 13, 2011 at 08:01 AM
mga sir, tanong ko lang po...
bakit po kaya nawawala ang mga settings sa AVR ko after ishutdown??
up ko lang po ulit yung katanungan ko, sana po may makatulong...  :-[
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on May 13, 2011 at 08:58 AM
up ko lang po ulit yung katanungan ko, sana po may makatulong...  :-[

baka sira na yung internal batteries nung AVR mo. have it checked, hopefully within warranty pa. good luck
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stockHT on May 17, 2011 at 10:42 PM

oh no!!!!! kala ko may stand by pass thru ang 510k  ;D ;D

found a solution! i copied my kid's movies to 500gb external HD and hook it up to LD460 :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ASuL on May 20, 2011 at 01:11 PM
what speakers would be a good match to the pioneer vsx 920?

what is the general characteristic of the a pioneer receiver...bright or warm?

thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Cosmic79 on May 20, 2011 at 04:03 PM
what speakers would be a good match to the pioneer vsx 920?

what is the general characteristic of the a pioneer receiver...bright or warm?

thanks  ;D

As far as I know Pioneers are more on the bright side. For speakers matching, best to audition first.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ASuL on May 22, 2011 at 12:30 PM
hello..i just got the vsx 920 -

how do i activate the a/b speakers? can't seem to switch from a to b.


thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on May 23, 2011 at 03:17 AM
hello..i just got the vsx 920 -

how do i activate the a/b speakers? can't seem to switch from a to b.


thanks!

May button po sa remote ang mga Pioneer usually. Make sure that your speaker assignments are correct.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ASuL on May 23, 2011 at 07:38 AM
ah ok...will check later. hehehe. sa yamaha kasi sa front panel eh...hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on May 25, 2011 at 08:23 PM
found a solution! i copied my kid's movies to 500gb external HD and hook it up to LD460 :)


pwede rin press mo yung audio parameters sa remote tapos yung hdmi switch mo to "thru". tv lang lalabas yung audio pero naka "on" pa rin yung 520. ganyan ginagawa ko pag natutulog na girlfriend ko
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jun 04, 2011 at 10:54 AM
i know you can output tv audio (cable tv) via receiver by using the optical out from LCD to optical in of receiver...

but can you let the receiver process SD analog signal of cable tv and scale it up?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tonteng on Jun 04, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Need help po..I'm using a Pioneer 520k receiver and wharfdale speakers..pag nilalakasan ko volume mga 40 pataas, i can hear a buzzing sound sa center and front speakers ko..please advise what to do..thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jun 04, 2011 at 04:24 PM
i know you can output tv audio (cable tv) via receiver by using the optical out from LCD to optical in of receiver...

but can you let the receiver process SD analog signal of cable tv and scale it up?

If you have a cable box with the proper outputs, you can feed the output to the AVR for scaling.

Need help po..I'm using a Pioneer 520k receiver and wharfdale speakers..pag nilalakasan ko volume mga 40 pataas, i can hear a buzzing sound sa center and front speakers ko..please advise what to do..thanks

Aside from this, wala namang ibang abnormal?

Have you tried other inputs? Maski naka digital-in may buzzing? Check for ground loops by disconnecting other components linked to the AVR. Kung meron pa din, try a different outlet. If hindi nawala, pacheck mo yung AVR.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Jun 04, 2011 at 09:44 PM
hey thanks for the reply...another question  ;D

can i play a movie file if  i plug in a thumb drive in the USB slot on the front panel of vsx 920?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jun 05, 2011 at 03:15 AM
hey thanks for the reply...another question  ;D

can i play a movie file if  i plug in a thumb drive in the USB slot on the front panel of vsx 920?

I'm not sure, but I think it only supports audio formats.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Jun 05, 2011 at 09:10 PM
sir ask my question lang po ako, balak ko kasi mag dagdag ng speaker.. right now im using vsx 520, wharf 9.1 and 9 cs.. ask ko lng po kung kaya pa ng receiver kung mag add ako ng 9.5 ( hindi na kaya sa budget yung 9.6 ) medyu nabibitin lng po ako pag nanunuod ako ng mga movies... thanks po.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jun 07, 2011 at 11:09 AM
sir ask my question lang po ako, balak ko kasi mag dagdag ng speaker.. right now im using vsx 520, wharf 9.1 and 9 cs.. ask ko lng po kung kaya pa ng receiver kung mag add ako ng 9.5 ( hindi na kaya sa budget yung 9.6 ) medyu nabibitin lng po ako pag nanunuod ako ng mga movies... thanks po.

Bitin po in what sense?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Jun 07, 2011 at 02:14 PM
gusto ko lang po kasi sir medyu magaya kahit yung parang nasa loob ka ng cinema.... ( ng hindi po nakakabutas ng bulsa )
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jun 07, 2011 at 09:30 PM
gusto ko lang po kasi sir medyu magaya kahit yung parang nasa loob ka ng cinema.... ( ng hindi po nakakabutas ng bulsa )

a good subwoofer can help. that's what i found out nung huli kong binili sa setup ko yung sub. di talaga sapat yung 5 speakers, ang laking difference pag merong subwoofer
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rulesmeister on Jun 12, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Im using a Pioneer VSX-520-K. For my HTPC I use Corel windvd 2010 when playing bd movies. Based sa info ng Corel windvd, ung audio ng movie is "DTS-HD MA" which of coarse is true since ung nkasulat sa slip case ng BD ay "5.1 DTS HD Master audio". However sa AVR ko walang nalabas na "DTS HD" sa LCD panel ng receiver.

Question: Does it mean Im only getting the DTS-audio? Ung nasa manual kasi sabi lalabas daw ung DTS HD sa LCD panel kong DTS HD ung source. I think hindi naman sira ung LCD panel kc nalabas nman na Dolby digital+ sa panel kong DD+ ung audio source.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jun 13, 2011 at 12:35 AM
Im using a Pioneer VSX-520-K. For my HTPC I use Corel windvd 2010 when playing bd movies. Based sa info ng Corel windvd, ung audio ng movie is "DTS-HD MA" which of coarse is true since ung nkasulat sa slip case ng BD ay "5.1 DTS HD Master audio". However sa AVR ko walang nalabas na "DTS HD" sa LCD panel ng receiver.

Question: Does it mean Im only getting the DTS-audio? Ung nasa manual kasi sabi lalabas daw ung DTS HD sa LCD panel kong DTS HD ung source. I think hindi naman sira ung LCD panel kc nalabas nman na Dolby digital+ sa panel kong DD+ ung audio source.

Ano po Video Adapter niyo?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 13, 2011 at 07:52 AM
Dapat din ata, DTS HD master audio capable yun pc...?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jun 13, 2011 at 09:21 AM
baka di nga nagdedecode ng HD audio yung pc. in which case baka may option to send the raw audio and let the reciever decode
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rulesmeister on Jun 13, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Im using an HDMI tru a gaming VC (1gig GTX460) which can handle DTS HD MA quite easily since kaya nga nya mghandle ng extreme settings sa gaming at 1080P. Based din sa specs ng GTX 460, it says it can handle DD trueHD and DTS HD MA.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jun 13, 2011 at 01:48 PM
Im using an HDMI tru a gaming VC (1gig GTX460) which can handle DTS HD MA quite easily since kaya nga nya mghandle ng extreme settings sa gaming at 1080P. Based din sa specs ng GTX 460, it says it can handle DD trueHD and DTS HD MA.

The extreme video settings has nothing to do with HD Audio handling, though the GTX 460 should be able to handle HD Audio with the right software and software settings.

You should set your software to bitstream the HD audio stream. Tapos buksan mo yung sa sound playback devices at tignan ang supported audio formats kung nakaselect ang desired format mo.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rulesmeister on Jun 14, 2011 at 08:49 AM
Thanks mga Sirs for the replies. I was finally able to extract DTS-HD MA from the VC, I did some reseach Guru3D said that the default CD driver for GTX 460 does not support HD audio. I downloaded the current driver from NVDIA and not only the audio improved but the PQ as well, meron nang "digital color vibrance" sa VC. Ok na ung tunog ng Pioneer 520 ko.   
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: batanglambak on Jun 18, 2011 at 06:24 PM
Kailan kaya magkakaroon ng 2011 receivers?  From what i read, meron na silang stand-by pass thru.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 20, 2011 at 07:06 AM
Uy maganda yang stand by pass thru. Lakas sa kuryente kung manonood ka lang ng tv and lahat ng gears mo eh naka bukas. So what I did was just direct my Cignal STB sa display the the DVD, WDTV an PS3 sa 520k going out to the display. Para I only need to turn on AVR and speakers when I am watching or gaming. A pass thru will be a great feature and electricity saver.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 20, 2011 at 07:47 AM
Kailan kaya magkakaroon ng 2011 receivers?  From what i read, meron na silang stand-by pass thru.

Kaya naka-sale na ang mga 2010 receivers ngayon sa US.  ;)

Uy maganda yang stand by pass thru. Lakas sa kuryente kung manonood ka lang ng tv and lahat ng gears mo eh naka bukas. So what I did was just direct my Cignal STB sa display the the DVD, WDTV an PS3 sa 520k going out to the display. Para I only need to turn on AVR and speakers when I am watching or gaming. A pass thru will be a great feature and electricity saver.

Pwede din naman gumamit ng splitter.  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 20, 2011 at 05:02 PM
Pano po set up if meron splitter?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 20, 2011 at 09:36 PM
source --->splitter--->monitor A & monitor B.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Jun 21, 2011 at 04:37 AM
You might be right Bro but based on what others say, that audio does not consume much, using the AVR might not be as bad as you think.   Also, the Cignal HD channels sometimes carry a 5.1 audio signal that you'd miss out on.

The only input I don't pass thru our AVR (Pioneer 1019) is the PC output since I never watch from it though I sometime listen while doing stuff on the PC.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 21, 2011 at 06:16 AM
source --->splitter--->monitor A & monitor B.

Sorry sir clarify ko lang. Sa set up ko ganito po ba?

Cignal STB --> HDMI splitter --> TV and AVR?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 21, 2011 at 09:04 AM
Sorry sir clarify ko lang. Sa set up ko ganito po ba?

Cignal STB --> HDMI splitter --> TV and AVR?

Yup. Or:
Cignal --> AVR --> splitter --> TV and PJ.
  ;D

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: davecrypt on Jul 12, 2011 at 04:58 AM
Hi mga sir! :)

Pioneer 920 user here, tanong lang ung setup ko kase is awesome when watching movies, dama ung bayo ng subs parang nasa sinehan talaga, pero pag music ung pinapakinggan ko parang hindi ganun kaganda ung bigay ng subs parang kulang. bat kaya ganon? may idea ba kayu sir?

I did manual setting na sa bawat channel. increased db sa subs pero same pa rin pag music which is in Tuner and iPod/USB Inputs. I watch movies in TV input.

Speakers ko pala is wharfs 9.5 at 9CM + Pilyo subs = Excellent in movies so far lalo na pag DTS.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM
Hi mga sir! :)

Pioneer 920 user here, tanong lang ung setup ko kase is awesome when watching movies, dama ung bayo ng subs parang nasa sinehan talaga, pero pag music ung pinapakinggan ko parang hindi ganun kaganda ung bigay ng subs parang kulang. bat kaya ganon? may idea ba kayu sir?

I did manual setting na sa bawat channel. increased db sa subs pero same pa rin pag music which is in Tuner and iPod/USB Inputs. I watch movies in TV input.

Speakers ko pala is wharfs 9.5 at 9CM + Pilyo subs = Excellent in movies so far lalo na pag DTS.

Try mo sa pilyo amp mag-increase ng gain.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vortex1 on Jul 12, 2011 at 11:45 AM
I dunno if we have the same issue pero i had an experience when there was minimal bass that's coming from my sub when i play mp3 thru my NMT pero if movies are being played ok naman sya at malakas naman bass nya.

My solution: My Yamaha's setting of the fronts was  currently set to LARGE. I changed the settings to SMALL and after that, problem was solved. I had ample bass from my subs when playing MP3s.

try to look for that setting in you Pioneer receiver bro. HTH.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: davecrypt on Jul 12, 2011 at 11:15 PM
Try mo sa pilyo amp mag-increase ng gain.

Ung bili ko kase kay pilyo walang controls eh, barebone lang na amp.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: davecrypt on Jul 12, 2011 at 11:18 PM
I dunno if we have the same issue pero i had an experience when there was minimal bass that's coming from my sub when i play mp3 thru my NMT pero if movies are being played ok naman sya at malakas naman bass nya.

My solution: My Yamaha's setting of the fronts was  currently set to LARGE. I changed the settings to SMALL and after that, problem was solved. I had ample bass from my subs when playing MP3s.

try to look for that setting in you Pioneer receiver bro. HTH.

Thanks checked again my fronts nga were set to LARGE set it to small already. Problem is solved na din. I also adjusted the crossover to 80hz mas ok ung bigay sa subs. Now im happy  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 12, 2011 at 11:19 PM
Ung bili ko kase kay pilyo walang controls eh, barebone lang na amp.

Meron sa loob kung wala kang external control.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Jul 17, 2011 at 08:52 PM
Good day fellow Pvd members, ask ko lang po sna kung ano yung metric sa speaker distance ng Pioneer VSX-520 natin ang nakalagay kasi dun sa display is M. is it in meters? kasi Naglipat ako ng HT sa bahay eh di ko sure kung yung speaker distance is in meters or in feet? the manual says in 0.1 ft. (3 cm) increments. Hope you can help me po.. salamat..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jojo_uy on Jul 29, 2011 at 05:20 AM
mga bossing VSX-520K TO XTREAMER , ano cable gagamitin ?

XTREAMER TO TV - HDMI cable tama ba ko ?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jul 29, 2011 at 09:53 AM
mga bossing VSX-520K TO XTREAMER , ano cable gagamitin ?

XTREAMER TO TV - HDMI cable tama ba ko ?

HDMI for both, basta may available port. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jojo_uy on Jul 29, 2011 at 06:05 PM
ah okey thank you , kaso yun tv 1 hdmi , yun xtreamer 1 hmdi din
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stockHT on Jul 29, 2011 at 06:08 PM
ah okey thank you , kaso yun tv 1 hdmi , yun xtreamer 1 hmdi din


Video:
Xtreamer [HDMI] -> Pio 520 | [HDMI] out -> LCD

Audio
Xtreamer [Optical Cable] -> Pio 520
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jul 30, 2011 at 06:18 AM
you don't need a separate optical cable. the 520 can pass through audio via hdmi
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Jul 31, 2011 at 10:16 AM
Up ko lang po yung Inquiry ko..

Good day fellow Pvd members, ask ko lang po sna kung ano yung metric sa speaker distance ng Pioneer VSX-520 natin ang nakalagay kasi dun sa display is M. is it in meters? kasi Naglipat ako ng HT sa bahay eh di ko sure kung yung speaker distance is in meters or in feet? the manual says in 0.1 ft. (3 cm) increments. Hope you can help me po.. salamat..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 31, 2011 at 09:08 PM
Good day fellow Pvd members, ask ko lang po sna kung ano yung metric sa speaker distance ng Pioneer VSX-520 natin ang nakalagay kasi dun sa display is M. is it in meters? kasi Naglipat ako ng HT sa bahay eh di ko sure kung yung speaker distance is in meters or in feet? the manual says in 0.1 ft. (3 cm) increments. Hope you can help me po.. salamat..

My Pio AVR is in meters. M nakalagay.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Aug 02, 2011 at 10:03 PM
My Pio AVR is in meters. M nakalagay.

Thanks po Sir Nelson for the reply...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vynne on Aug 08, 2011 at 12:58 AM
Good Morning po!

Plano ko po sana bumili ng HT set option ko is pioneer vsx-rs320-k and vsx-520-k. alin po kaya ang mas advisable na bilin. yung set po w/ Rs77tb todoroki speaker and subwoofer. ang usage ko po 60 % music, 40% movies. nalilito kasi ako kung alin sa dalawa. mas type ko po kasi ung medyo may heavy bass especially sa music. sa price difference naman nung dalawang set almost 1k lng po. Sana matulungan nyo po ako. salamat!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jojo_uy on Aug 08, 2011 at 05:10 PM
eto ginawa ko - panasonic viera - hmdi cable - xtreamer media player - optical audio cable - pio vsx520k :D

ganda nang sounds d na ko gamit nang rca 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Aug 08, 2011 at 05:44 PM
try mo xtreamer - hdmi - vsx520 - hdmi - lcd. pag ganyan setup mo pwede ka pa magdagdag ng 2 hdmi devices sa reciever mo tapos isa lang yung papunta sa display. HD audio does not pass through optical cables
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jojo_uy on Aug 08, 2011 at 08:51 PM
bale 2 hdmi cable tapos gamit pa ko nang 1 optical audio cable , may mga brand ba na hmdi cable na maganda o kahit ordinary nalang ?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Aug 08, 2011 at 10:21 PM
no need for optical cables. the audio will pass through the hdmi cable. i get mine from cdr king. no problems with them so far
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Aug 09, 2011 at 03:01 AM
Good Morning po!

Plano ko po sana bumili ng HT set option ko is pioneer vsx-rs320-k and vsx-520-k. alin po kaya ang mas advisable na bilin. yung set po w/ Rs77tb todoroki speaker and subwoofer. ang usage ko po 60 % music, 40% movies. nalilito kasi ako kung alin sa dalawa. mas type ko po kasi ung medyo may heavy bass especially sa music. sa price difference naman nung dalawang set almost 1k lng po. Sana matulungan nyo po ako. salamat!

Sir Vynne,

My advise is just to get a 520K reciever without the todoroki speakers. Then contact Sir anthony AKA diy_anthony and get the genesis set of speakers. It sounds better that the todoroki set na bundled ng PIONEER. trust me know someone been that path, when he tried the genesis set the only word he've said was WOW. PM mo si Messiahdgreat he can share his experience with you..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: tapyok on Aug 09, 2011 at 05:49 AM
Sir Vynne,

My advise is just to get a 520K reciever without the todoroki speakers. Then contact Sir anthony AKA diy_anthony and get the genesis set of speakers. It sounds better that the todoroki set na bundled ng PIONEER. trust me know someone been that path, when he tried the genesis set the only word he've said was WOW. PM mo si Messiahdgreat he can share his experience with you..

+1 ako dyan sir... ang set up ko po eh pio 820k and genesis speakers
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: darkn1ght on Aug 17, 2011 at 02:14 AM
I am planning to build my first HT set-up and this is what I have in mind:

VSX-520-K
F: A-Audio Genesis Floorstander
C: A-Audio Genesis Front
R: A-Audio Genesis Bookshelf
S: Marcopilyo's amp4v2, 12" jbl gt5 on ht enclosure

I will be using this set-up with the following:
- Panny 42x30
- PCH-210
- PS3

I would appreciate any feedback regarding this build. Thanks.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 20, 2011 at 02:09 PM
my simple HT

pioneer_____http://www.4shared.com/photo/sHXc5QAJ/IMG_0198.html

                  http://www.4shared.com/photo/TOHOVa0a/IMG_0202.html

                   http://www.4shared.com/photo/c0jNXQtH/IMG_0203.html

Gawa ka sir sa HT gallery natin.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stockHT on Sep 18, 2011 at 01:26 AM
Hey hey!  ;D

just received my bnew 520!
quick questlion, normal ba yung clicking sound when powering on the unit and when auto/direct to stereo?


thanks!


btw, my 520 is connected to A Audio Genesis :) swabehng swabeh for my use!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Sep 18, 2011 at 02:14 AM
Hey hey!  ;D

just received my bnew 520!
quick questlion, normal ba yung clicking sound when powering on the unit and when auto/direct to stereo?

Yes, normal yung relay clicking.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stockHT on Sep 20, 2011 at 04:02 AM
Yes, normal yung relay clicking.


salamat sir! normal pala :)


next question - nagcra-crash yung xtreamer sidewinder ko, when playing movies hindi, pero when quitting movies or going out to the main dashboard nasisira... this time nagkaroon pa ng buzzing sound.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stockHT on Sep 21, 2011 at 09:15 PM
mga sir isa pa palang tanong, bakit ang parang mahina yung volume? pag 0-20 walang naririnig, sa 50 pa ako masasatisfy sa tunog.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 22, 2011 at 08:31 PM

salamat sir! normal pala :)


next question - nagcra-crash yung xtreamer sidewinder ko, when playing movies hindi, pero when quitting movies or going out to the main dashboard nasisira... this time nagkaroon pa ng buzzing sound.

Baka masyadong natatagtag.

mga sir isa pa palang tanong, bakit ang parang mahina yung volume? pag 0-20 walang naririnig, sa 50 pa ako masasatisfy sa tunog.

Normal for Pio AVRs.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joshken2028 on Oct 04, 2011 at 05:29 PM
mga master ok po ba Pioneer VSX-521-K?

TIA !!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 05, 2011 at 09:27 PM
mga sir isa pa palang tanong, bakit ang parang mahina yung volume? pag 0-20 walang naririnig, sa 50 pa ako masasatisfy sa tunog.
50?
try to change channel level.
i heard 11k na lang ito sa mega  ??? ???
can someone confirm?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 05, 2011 at 09:29 PM
50?
try to change channel level.
i heard 11k na lang 520 sa mega  ??? ???
can someone confirm?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: losi_phile on Oct 06, 2011 at 04:54 PM
Tanong lang po...

Saan po ba maganda mag-pa-service ng Pioneer receiver maliban sa Pioneer service center?  My VSX-D509S needs repair, nag-auto poweroff kasi. 

Thanks very much.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dilbert7 on Oct 06, 2011 at 05:50 PM
Try Dai Ichi in megamall c/o John
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ngob on Oct 18, 2011 at 10:23 AM


Yes confirm 11,999 sa SM Appliance, Abenson, meron nakakita sa Western Recto 10,800.00

Just bought one sa Abenson Northh Edsa last unit, pansin ko lang mahina sa bass need to support ng Active Sub.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: stockHT on Oct 18, 2011 at 10:07 PM
Yes confirm 11,999 sa SM Appliance, Abenson, meron nakakita sa Western Recto 10,800.00

Just bought one sa Abenson Northh Edsa last unit, pansin ko lang mahina sa bass need to support ng Active Sub.

yup mababa sa LFE, a good active sub will definitely bring some new dimension. bitin pero swabeh na.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 19, 2011 at 12:36 AM
yup mababa sa LFE, a good active sub will definitely bring some new dimension. bitin pero swabeh na.

will the 520 be a good buys for me...first AVR ko to ...liit lang naman ung sala ko
ung HTIB nga na 2.1 440rms LG805VM ok na ako...hehehe... pero i would like to try avr
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Oct 19, 2011 at 02:08 PM
bagsak presyo mga avr sa mega..

vsx 520 - 11-12k
vsx 820 - 16 k
vsx 920 or 1020 ata yung - 21-22 k

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Oct 19, 2011 at 09:41 PM
will the 520 be a good buys for me...first AVR ko to ...liit lang naman ung sala ko
ung HTIB nga na 2.1 440rms LG805VM ok na ako...hehehe... pero i would like to try avr

I suggest you try a "middle aged" pre-owned unit first, but you should have the speakers first I would think.  Warning though Bro, you might catch the SARS virus!

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 19, 2011 at 10:01 PM
bagsak presyo mga avr sa mega..

vsx 520 - 11-12k
vsx 820 - 16 k
vsx 920 or 1020 ata yung - 21-22 k



saang mega yan?
just got there sa sm appliance and western but they dont have 520 anu shop yan?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Oct 19, 2011 at 10:03 PM
3rd floor ata sir or 2nd floor yung listening in style. my Banner pa sila sa labas na on sale yung mga pioneer receiver.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Oct 19, 2011 at 10:13 PM
Listening Room ata yun.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 19, 2011 at 10:25 PM
3rd floor ata sir or 2nd floor yung listening in style. my Banner pa sila sa labas na on sale yung mga pioneer receiver.

hmmm sa libis meron listening style..
sige check ko nalang siguro by next sahod
napabili ako ng 40d550 kanina e...imbes na receiver tv nabili ..kapos na tuloy sa avr and speaker...tsk tsk tsk
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Oct 19, 2011 at 10:26 PM
ay sorry nalito po listening room nga po..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 20, 2011 at 03:24 AM
vsx 520 now only 12k :o
mama mia ::)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Oct 20, 2011 at 06:56 PM
eto pala yung nakita kong sale kanina sa megamall

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/crayzard/Pioneer.jpg)

worth it kaya mag upgrade from vsx 520 to vsx 1020?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Oct 20, 2011 at 09:28 PM
eto pala yung nakita kong sale kanina sa megamall

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/crayzard/Pioneer.jpg)

worth it kaya mag upgrade from vsx 520 to vsx 1020?

napakalaki ng improvement from 520 to 1020. ako siguro paabutin ko man lang ng one year yung 520 ko tapos pwede na mag upgrade to 1020 and i'm sure by next year mas mura na yan.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 20, 2011 at 09:30 PM
kasi ba may 1021, 921, 521 series na kaya bagsak presyo?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Oct 20, 2011 at 09:50 PM
@toys4geeks

ata sir kasi merun na den 521 16 thou naman po..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Oct 20, 2011 at 10:28 PM
I had a 1019 till a few months ago and was very happy with it.  Prices could continue falling but just the same a 1020 for P22,600 is a GREAT deal especially if this includes a warranty.  Without a warranty, I might however consider going for a well loved pre-owned unit just to rule out the "lemon" possibility.

The only "turn off" with my 1019 was it was quite light but that does not necessarily mean it is a lesser animal.   I upgraded our AVR to a Yamaha RX-V3800 only so the front speakers I would eventually get, Polk Audio RTi A9 (500w), would have a beefier source.  Never did get a chance to actually compare.

Pioneers, IMHO, are A-OK.  Will have a VSX-41 tomorrow :).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 20, 2011 at 10:51 PM
kasi ba may 1021, 921, 521 series na kaya bagsak presyo?

Those are 2011 models.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Audioknox on Oct 23, 2011 at 08:40 AM
sir what store po ito? SM Appliance b? im considering Denon 1912 (P33500) but saw this
thread.. tempting..


napakalaki ng improvement from 520 to 1020. ako siguro paabutin ko man lang ng one year yung 520 ko tapos pwede na mag upgrade to 1020 and i'm sure by next year mas mura na yan.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: chrisbulog on Oct 25, 2011 at 07:30 PM
Recently got my 520 for 10,700 php at Western Cubao.

Paired it muna with a Konzert FS & KS8 sub

Then I bought a WH-2 (center + surround) from SnS last night.

So far ok naman ako sa SQ nya, music & movies.

Playing DTS audio is truly remarkable...lalo na mga bluray movies na naka True HD at DTS HD master.


I'm planning to upgrade my fronts next year hopefully to better improve the SQ.

I think Im gonna use my 520 for a year & see what happens next hehe...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Oct 25, 2011 at 08:06 PM
Those are 2011 models.

It's probably also because of the ensuing recession and the big impact it is having especially in the "first" world countries.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 26, 2011 at 02:22 AM
Oot, a friend has an incoming 1021, but has a change of heart and went for a different brand
 Arrives early december so pm if interested . Kano ba yan locally?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Oct 26, 2011 at 09:26 AM
Oot, a friend has an incoming 1021, but has a change of heart and went for a different brand
 Arrives early december so pm if interested . Kano ba yan locally?
around 40k pa
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Oct 26, 2011 at 09:28 AM
around 40k pa

taas pa pala, he's eyeing 34k pero from US ito so 110V
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Nov 05, 2011 at 01:47 AM
i'm planning to upgrade from a 520 to a 1020 by jan or feb next year. is it great for music or should i just opt for a separate amp dedicated for music? i'm looking to streamline my setup as i'm saving up on space. i tried two speaker systems but the whole thing is just so crowded and right now i'm getting tired of switching from t-amp to avr
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: TOP 20 on Nov 05, 2011 at 02:19 AM
i'm planning to upgrade from a 520 to a 1020 by jan or feb next year. is it great for music or should i just opt for a separate amp dedicated for music? i'm looking to streamline my setup as i'm saving up on space. i tried two speaker systems but the whole thing is just so crowded and right now i'm getting tired of switching from t-amp to avr

Bro warmaster, maybe markcrenz's amp switcher will be a big help. All you need to do is choose from one source to another (AVR or T-amp).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Nov 05, 2011 at 02:23 AM
can vsx 520 handle rti A3 or MA RX2 kahit na in low to moderate volume? halfgrade mode ako this december ayaw ko naman na kumuha ulet ng entry level na AVR and entry level na speaker ( mas magastos pala pag ganun ) .. prefer ko sana mag sagad upgrade sa speaker muna, den tsaga muna sa vsx 520 in moderate volume lang.. para pag nag ka funds eh upgrade na at least kahit midrange na avr.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 05, 2011 at 11:18 AM
Bro warmaster, maybe markcrenz's amp switcher will be a big help. All you need to do is choose from one source to another (AVR or T-amp).


My king markcrenz automatic swtcher does not have a switch na. Naka-default sa HT. But when i switch on my stereo, automatic sa stereo kukuha ng source.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 05, 2011 at 09:42 PM
mga sirs

im eyeing for my first AVR of this generation  :), but im on a very tight budget, maybe i can stretch my budget to a max of P14k, the important thing to me is it should be at least 5.1, with HDMI as i will connect my laptop/PC as a movie/music player most of the time, for the meantime i will use my 8 ohms 62w satellite speakers and my active sub. any model na pwede nyo po mai-recommend and kung saan murang mabibili ito, thanks so much... :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 06, 2011 at 06:58 AM
mga sirs

im eyeing for my first AVR of this generation  :), but im on a very tight budget, maybe i can stretch my budget to a max of P14k, the important thing to me is it should be at least 5.1, with HDMI as i will connect my laptop/PC as a movie/music player most of the time, for the meantime i will use my 8 ohms 62w satellite speakers and my active sub. any model na pwede nyo po mai-recommend and kung saan murang mabibili ito, thanks so much... :)

If you're buying brand new local units, the Pioneer VSX-520-K and VSX-521-K seem to be your only common options. The 520 currently sells for 10-12k, while the 521 sells for less than 15k.

Another option is to look for mildly used AVRs in the marketplace.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Nov 06, 2011 at 09:41 AM
Not really familiar with this model but it seems like a good deal: VSX-LX52 P23k (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,149655.0.html)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 06, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Quote
If you're buying brand new local units, the Pioneer VSX-520-K and VSX-521-K seem to be your only common options. The 520 currently sells for 10-12k, while the 521 sells for less than 15k.

Another option is to look for mildly used AVRs in the marketplace.

salamat po sir, ano po difference ng 521 sa 520?  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 06, 2011 at 01:43 PM
planning of getting the 521, san po kaya may pinakamura, pa help naman po kasi galing pa ako bicol para lam ko na san ako dederetso, salamat po sa mga makakatulong...  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 06, 2011 at 02:04 PM
salamat po sir, ano po difference ng 521 sa 520?  :)

521 is newer and includes the MCACC feature. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Nov 06, 2011 at 09:14 PM
Not really familiar with this model but it seems like a good deal: VSX-LX52 P23k (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,149655.0.html)

very good deal nga yan. sayang at wala pang funds
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 07, 2011 at 06:28 AM
can vsx 520 handle rti A3 or MA RX2 kahit na in low to moderate volume? halfgrade mode ako this december ayaw ko naman na kumuha ulet ng entry level na AVR and entry level na speaker ( mas magastos pala pag ganun ) .. prefer ko sana mag sagad upgrade sa speaker muna, den tsaga muna sa vsx 520 in moderate volume lang.. para pag nag ka funds eh upgrade na at least kahit midrange na avr.


It would drive those speakers just fine, as long as you don't demand reference levels of volume (and you don't have a very big room). Both are fairly easy to power.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dreidrei on Nov 07, 2011 at 07:19 AM
sir may question lang po sa fellow pio receiver users..just bought a pio 520k then i connected a ps3 to it using hdmi cable and tried playing a blu ray movie na may Dolby true HD audio. pero di umiilaw yung true hd indicator nya. may bearing po ba yun dahil naka 2.1 set up lang ako front and sub lang? or may mali sa connection ko or ang ps3 ay di lang nakakapag output ng true HD? pls help thanks so much.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Nov 08, 2011 at 03:30 AM
sir may question lang po sa fellow pio receiver users..just bought a pio 520k then i connected a ps3 to it using hdmi cable and tried playing a blu ray movie na may Dolby true HD audio. pero di umiilaw yung true hd indicator nya. may bearing po ba yun dahil naka 2.1 set up lang ako front and sub lang? or may mali sa connection ko or ang ps3 ay di lang nakakapag output ng true HD? pls help thanks so much.

@Dreidrei set your PS3 to bitstream so that the audio will be decoded by PIO reciever and not by your PS3. HTH..!!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 08, 2011 at 04:56 AM
now proud owner of the new vsx521k   :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Nov 09, 2011 at 01:51 PM
Quote
It would drive those speakers just fine, as long as you don't demand reference levels of volume (and you don't have a very big room). Both are fairly easy to power.

thanks sir stagea i thought kasi hindi kaya kahit sa moderate volume...sir question po sana ulet.. kasi i want to upgrade din my receiver to 1020 kaso pag check ko yung comparison regarding power per channel eh pareho pareho lang sila ng output 520, 920 and 1020... nagkakaiba lng sila sa features like 5.1 to 7.1 pero pag sa power eh same lng sila tatlo, so sir kahit naka 1020 ako hirap pa den sya i drive yung RX2? tama po ba?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/crayzard/comparison.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 09, 2011 at 02:47 PM
thanks sir stagea i thought kasi hindi kaya kahit sa moderate volume...sir question po sana ulet.. kasi i want to upgrade din my receiver to 1020 kaso pag check ko yung comparison regarding power per channel eh pareho pareho lang sila ng output 520, 920 and 1020... nagkakaiba lng sila sa features like 5.1 to 7.1 pero pag sa power eh same lng sila tatlo, so sir kahit naka 1020 ako hirap pa den sya i drive yung RX2? tama po ba?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/crayzard/comparison.jpg)

Power is not everything.

Suggestion: Buy the speakers that you want, then see if your 520 can run them at your desired volume. If it could, then the 1020 can drive them too. The 1020 would likely sound better than the 520 because of its more advanced processing capability.

If you find out that you are in need of increased amp capacity, then you'd have to go for a higher end AVR (or add a power amp to the equation).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 09, 2011 at 08:52 PM
Di ata capable ng external amp ang mga vsx line.  :(
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Nov 09, 2011 at 09:13 PM
Why not bring your 520 to AVSHOP and audition the A3s there?  I used to have a 1019, not that big a difference with your 520, and it work very well, in retrospect, with the A3.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Nov 10, 2011 at 03:21 AM
maybe what master stagea refering to is add power amp to support avr output power..
i maybe wrong.
so if thats the case,you should put power amp per channel or minimum of two for  L and R main speakers.correct me if im wrong ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 10, 2011 at 04:09 AM
Di ata capable ng external amp ang mga vsx line.  :(

I was not referring to the VSX line po. What I meant is that if he finds out that he needs more power, then he'd need to change his plans. Either go with a higher-end AVR (like the elite series), or a pre-pro (or AVR w/ preouts) with a power amp.

so if thats the case,you should put power amp per channel or minimum of two for  L and R main speakers.correct me if im wrong ;D

That's not exactly what I meant, but he can go that route if the 520's capacity isn't enough for his needs. A different AVR or a pre-pro + power amp may fill his needs.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Nov 10, 2011 at 04:20 AM
what confuses me is the 80wpc of elite vs 120wpc for vsx.can someone shed some light on this matter for me ???
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 10, 2011 at 08:58 AM
what confuses me is the 80wpc of elite vs 120wpc for vsx.can someone shed some light on this matter for me ???

Most Elite models (especially the higher-end ones) deliver the rated power with all channels driven.

Cheaper AVRs generally don't (and many cheaper power amps could not, as well). It may shock you that many mainstream AVRs only output less than a third of their published ratings with all channels driven (because their ratings are based on channel performance, with only one or two channels driven).

The Elite SC-09TX for example is rated at 140w per channel with all channels driven, but it can actually deliver a very clean 200wpc with 7 channels driven into 8 ohms. The VSX-1120 that's rated at 120w per channel (two channels driven) may not even reach 40w per channel with 7 channels driven into 8 ohms at low distortion levels. The popular Onkyo TX-SR608 pushes even less at about 30w per channel in this configuration, as measured by a popular publication.

The SC-09TX can sustain 530wpc or so into 2 channels at lower impedances. That's more than what many power amps can deliver.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Nov 10, 2011 at 03:06 PM
ahh thanks for the explanation sir stagea... mas na intindihan ko na..


@ sir nelson

kahit po ba vsx 1020 walang pre amp?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 10, 2011 at 03:15 PM
ahh thanks for the explanation sir stagea... mas na intindihan ko na..


@ sir nelson

kahit po ba vsx 1020 walang pre amp?

Wala eh. 5.1 line in preamp meron. Output wala.  :(
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Nov 10, 2011 at 03:18 PM
anu meaning nung merun line in pero po sa output wala?  medyu newbie pa sir eh
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 10, 2011 at 03:25 PM
Wala eh. 5.1 line in preamp meron. Output wala.  :(

I think it's because Pioneer does not sell HT application (multi-channel) power amps, unlike Denon, Onkyo, Marantz, etc. who sell AV separates for the upper end market (Pioneer stopped making these quite sometime ago). Pioneer's solution for this segment is to integrate excellent amp sections in their upper tier AVRs (the Class-D Elites are indeed very very strong). Ironically, most of the Elite series models are equipped with pre-outs, just in case you need even more power.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 10, 2011 at 07:36 PM
I think it's because Pioneer does not sell HT application (multi-channel) power amps, unlike Denon, Onkyo, Marantz, etc. who sell AV separates for the upper end market (Pioneer stopped making these quite sometime ago). Pioneer's solution for this segment is to integrate excellent amp sections in their upper tier AVRs (the Class-D Elites are indeed very very strong). Ironically, most of the Elite series models are equipped with pre-outs, just in case you need even more power.
same goes with other brands naman  :)
katuwa na dapat nga sa lower, lower mid nila ilagay ito  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 10, 2011 at 07:48 PM
anu meaning nung merun line in pero po sa output wala?  medyu newbie pa sir eh

May 5.1 preamp input. pero walang 5.1 preamp output.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Nov 10, 2011 at 09:14 PM
Most Elite models (especially the higher-end ones) deliver the rated power with all channels driven.

Cheaper AVRs generally don't (and many cheaper power amps could not, as well). It may shock you that many mainstream AVRs only output less than a third of their published ratings with all channels driven (because their ratings are based on channel performance, with only one or two channels driven).

The Elite SC-09TX for example is rated at 140w per channel with all channels driven, but it can actually deliver a very clean 200wpc with 7 channels driven into 8 ohms. The VSX-1120 that's rated at 120w per channel (two channels driven) may not even reach 40w per channel with 7 channels driven into 8 ohms at low distortion levels. The popular Onkyo TX-SR608 pushes even less at about 30w per channel in this configuration, as measured by a popular publication.

The SC-09TX can sustain 530wpc or so into 2 channels at lower impedances. That's more than what many power amps can deliver.

 :o :o :o :o :o
whhhaaaaatttt?????
salamat master!very imformative post!
thanks!thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 11, 2011 at 05:19 AM
Eto target ko for december next year :) :)

Pioneer Elite SC-57 A/V Receiver

(http://www.hometheater.com/images/1111piorec.promo_.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Nov 11, 2011 at 06:19 AM
Is this better than your new Yamaha?  Curious.

I bought an Elite VSX-41 in the marketplace with the idea of biamping the fronts for my audio-only setup.  It would have been interesting expect that the VSX-41 doesn't have such a feature.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 11, 2011 at 07:52 AM
Is this better than your new Yamaha?  Curious.
Very likely so, at least from the amplification end. The upper end Elites have very strong amp sections. The SC-57 may not be as strong as the SC-09TX, but its realistic output is comparable to power amps like the Emotiva XPA-5.

I bought an Elite VSX-41 in the marketplace with the idea of biamping the fronts for my audio-only setup.  It would have been interesting expect that the VSX-41 doesn't have such a feature.

The VSX-41 can surely do that using the multichannel inputs (you can even triamp with it). Though you'd need an active crossover if you'd like to go for an active scheme (passive biamping/triamping is doable as-is).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nogie on Nov 11, 2011 at 10:54 AM
Eto target ko for december next year :) :)

Pioneer Elite SC-57 A/V Receiver

(http://www.hometheater.com/images/1111piorec.promo_.jpg)

Nice! Reserve mo na sa akin yong Aventage mo bro.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 11, 2011 at 11:07 AM
ganda! sana next year sa upgrade ko kahit entry level sa elite series  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: chrisbulog on Nov 11, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Mga Sir's

What FS or BS fronts would be a good pair to my 520k?

Planning to upgrade my Konzert FS

Master A recommended his Charisma 6 FS.

Any suggestions po?

Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nogie on Nov 11, 2011 at 11:15 AM
ganda! sana next year sa upgrade ko kahit entry level sa elite series  :)

Sir, USD249 lang ang entry level ng Elite series. The models are vsx-30 or 31 rated at 80wpc.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Nov 11, 2011 at 11:24 AM
The VSX-41 can surely do that using the multichannel inputs (you can even triamp with it). Though you'd need an active crossover if you'd like to go for an active scheme (passive biamping/triamping is doable as-is).

I like what I'm hearing Bro but you lost me on the second sentence.  As is, just wiring it to the speakers and source, can it bi-amp it?  By "active crossover" does this mean digital filtering inside the the AVR?  Haven't really read the manual, just did some searches for "biamp" in the manual then closed it not having found it.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 11, 2011 at 12:01 PM
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Sir, USD249 lang ang entry level ng Elite series. The models are vsx-30 or 31 rated at 80wpc. 

halos kapresyo lang ng 521k ko  :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM
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What FS or BS fronts would be a good pair to my 520k?

ako sir ito lang inorder ko kay ivan, pero maganda feedback ng speakers na to,mura pa...  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Nov 11, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Ok. I downloaded the manual and found a "6-channel stereo" mode wherein 2-channel material is played on a 3 pairs (front, surround, and surround back).  Didn't find how to set the filtering parameters but is using the purely passive filtering of the speakers a terribly bad idea?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: chrisbulog on Nov 11, 2011 at 12:30 PM
ako sir ito lang inorder ko kay ivan, pero maganda feedback ng speakers na to,mura pa...  :)

What speakers po ito Sir?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: EVO X on Nov 11, 2011 at 12:51 PM
brader chris ok dn yung charisma 6 jan sa 520k mo. yun ang gamit ko sa 920k eh smooth yung tunog nya
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: chrisbulog on Nov 11, 2011 at 01:30 PM
brader chris ok dn yung charisma 6 jan sa 520k mo. yun ang gamit ko sa 920k eh smooth yung tunog nya

Thanks Sir.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 11, 2011 at 01:37 PM
sorry sir di ko pala nailagay  :D heto po

Dayton Audio B652 Speakers

Bookshelf style

(http://di1-1.shoppingshadow.com/images/pi/9f/74/cb/95941750-260x260-0-0_Dayton+Audio+B652.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 11, 2011 at 10:05 PM
Nice! Reserve mo na sa akin yong Aventage mo bro.  ;D

He he he.. sure brader he he he....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Nov 12, 2011 at 02:56 AM
Hi Fellow PinoyDvdiers, Just want to inquire what is the difference between the PIO 1020 and the new PIO 1021K. I'm being tempt to get the 1020 that is being sold here. I currently have the PIO 520K and wasn't able to use it for 6 months coz I'm out of the country and just got back yesterday. will there be a significant change coz both say the same with the wattage per channel. hope you can shed some lights regarding this.. thanks in advance..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 12, 2011 at 10:50 AM
Hi Fellow PinoyDvdiers, Just want to inquire what is the difference between the PIO 1020 and the new PIO 1021K. I'm being tempt to get the 1020 that is being sold here. I currently have the PIO 520K and wasn't able to use it for 6 months coz I'm out of the country and just got back yesterday. will there be a significant change coz both say the same with the wattage per channel. hope you can shed some lights regarding this.. thanks in advance..

Aside from the usual feature variations, the 2011 models are supposed to have more robust power supplies. This should make them more capable of handling high current demands. I'm not sure how they did it without significantly increasing the weight, however.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mdelro on Nov 12, 2011 at 01:03 PM
Hi guys, just want to get some feedbacks with the Pioneer 1021-k. Looked it up sa internet, it has good reviews. Choosing between the Onkyo 609 and Pioneer 1021k, what do you think is a better match with polk rti a5? Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 12, 2011 at 04:27 PM
Hi guys, just want to get some feedbacks with the Pioneer 1021-k. Looked it up sa internet, it has good reviews. Choosing between the Onkyo 609 and Pioneer 1021k, what do you think is a better match with polk rti a5? Thanks! :)

The VSX-1021-K has a broad feature set and includes better audio processing, while the TX-NR609 seems to have a beefier amp section (and maybe does video processing a tiny bit better).

Aside from the fanfare of different input options: If you want a correct sound presentation without doing a manual calibration, the Pioneer would likely be a good choice for you (Advanced MCACC could remedy most anomalies automatically). The Onkyo might need more manual work to get the sound right (Audyssey 2EQ is pretty dumbed-down), but could be quite satisfying once set properly.

Pioneer and Onkyo also have different house sounds, and you may prefer one to the other.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 12, 2011 at 04:34 PM
I like what I'm hearing Bro but you lost me on the second sentence.  As is, just wiring it to the speakers and source, can it bi-amp it?  By "active crossover" does this mean digital filtering inside the the AVR?  Haven't really read the manual, just did some searches for "biamp" in the manual then closed it not having found it.

An active crossover is something used for doing the filtering actively -- often in the line level (instead of relying on a speaker's passive crossover).

If you just plan on doing a passive biamp on 2 speakers, use 4 of the receiver's channels and feed all 4 through the multi-channel line inputs.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Nov 12, 2011 at 04:53 PM
An active crossover is something used for doing the filtering actively -- often in the line level (instead of relying on a speaker's passive crossover).

If you just plan on doing a passive biamp on 2 speakers, use 4 of the receiver's channels and feed all 4 through the multi-channel line inputs.

Guess you did not see my post after ..

Ok. I downloaded the manual and found a "6-channel stereo" mode wherein 2-channel material is played on a 3 pairs (front, surround, and surround back).  Didn't find how to set the filtering parameters but is using the purely passive filtering of the speakers a terribly bad idea?


Good thing is the AVR's preamp can be used.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 12, 2011 at 05:46 PM
Guess you did not see my post after ..

Ok. I downloaded the manual and found a "6-channel stereo" mode wherein 2-channel material is played on a 3 pairs (front, surround, and surround back).  Didn't find how to set the filtering parameters but is using the purely passive filtering of the speakers a terribly bad idea?


Good thing is the AVR's preamp can be used.


I wouldn't think that this AVR would allow you to do the filtering internally for typical speaker crossover points. Passive biamping isn't bad, many people (especially those in the pro audio world) just don't consider it legitimate biamping since you miss many of the major benefits of active biamping (each channel still amplifies the full bandwidth, and you still get insertion loss and performance variability from the passive components). The fact that all the channels share the same power supply further reduces the advantage of the arrangement (since you don't gain extra current capacity for the most part), leaving the main advantage to having some isolation between the pair of channels feeding each side (and possibly having separate gain controls for LF and HF).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Nov 12, 2011 at 05:49 PM
Do AVRs with a "biamp" setting do active filtering?  I don't seem to remember my manuals saying which channels should be connected to which sections of the speakers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 12, 2011 at 06:00 PM
Do AVRs with a "biamp" setting do active filtering?  I don't seem to remember my manuals saying which channels should be connected to which sections of the speakers.

The ones I know do not. They just set the receiver up for passive biamping (some just use a separate HPF setting for the HF channels).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jojo_uy on Nov 14, 2011 at 01:21 AM
mga bossing pede ba mag lagay nang 2 bass ampli sa 520k ? d kaya masira or sumabog
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 19, 2011 at 06:10 PM
mga sirs, normal ba sa pioneer avr na uminit masyado? yung 521 ko kasi nakikinig lang ako ng music, stereo lang (2 speakers) around 55-60 yung volume pero tindi ng init halos di ko maipatong kamay ko sa ibabaw ng ilang seconds di ko kinakaya yung init...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 19, 2011 at 06:41 PM
mga bossing pede ba mag lagay nang 2 bass ampli sa 520k ? d kaya masira or sumabog

Yes. Maski 10 amps pa.  :D Preamp/line output signal lang naman ang kinukuha mo sa receiver mo.

mga sirs, normal ba sa pioneer avr na uminit masyado? yung 521 ko kasi nakikinig lang ako ng music, stereo lang (2 speakers) around 55-60 yung volume pero tindi ng init halos di ko maipatong kamay ko sa ibabaw ng ilang seconds di ko kinakaya yung init...

I'm not familiar with the volume control of the 521 but if 60-70 is the max, then it's normal because your kinda overdrivin the receiver's amp na.  ;) You need to lower down the volume a bit. Or palit new receiver na. Btw, what speakers are ytou using for the 521?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 19, 2011 at 07:21 PM
dayton audio b652 sir, siguro nga sir, ngayon ko lang tiningnan 68 pala max vol nito, adjust ko na lang volume ng player ko sa PC para di yung receiver ang tumaas masyado...  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 20, 2011 at 12:48 AM
Yes. Maski 10 amps pa.  :D Preamp/line output signal lang naman ang kinukuha mo sa receiver mo.

You lose damping as you add more. Pag marami kailangan na ng active electronics to minimize signal degradation and to ease the load sa pre-out.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 20, 2011 at 01:35 AM
You lose damping as you add more. Pag marami kailangan na ng active electronics to minimize signal degradation and to ease the load sa pre-out.

Oo nga pala. You're right.  :D The signal output is also divided. May line driver ba sa home audio?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 20, 2011 at 02:00 AM
Oo nga pala. You're right.  :D The signal output is also divided. May line driver ba sa home audio?

Meron din. Bibili ka for your 10 amps?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: AppleMan on Nov 20, 2011 at 02:33 AM
Pwede kang gumawa ng pre-amp na 1 input and 4 output kahit 4 na amplifier ikabit mo equal ang ouput nya di magkakaroon ng problema sa quality ng output meron na kit sa alexan.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Nov 20, 2011 at 07:22 AM
You could use the things offered here:  http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130308.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130308.0.html).  A setup using these would be someone more expensive but it would be ideal since the distribution lines would be balanced. 

Try contacting Bro markcrenz in his thread: http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,135325.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,135325.0.html) if you need it assembled.  He could also  probably put offer you an alternative design.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 20, 2011 at 08:11 AM
You could use the things offered here:  http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130308.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130308.0.html).  A setup using these would be someone more expensive but it would be ideal since the distribution lines would be balanced. 

Unfortunately, most HT subs out there don't support balanced inputs (largely because most AVRs don't have them). Converting the output back to unbalanced before the sub defeats the main purpose of going balanced.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Nov 20, 2011 at 08:31 AM
Oh I meant he'd have a driver at his source then receivers at each sub.  The receivers would convert the signal back to single ended.  If he's adventurous then he could even mount the receivers and their power supplies inside the each sub's cabinet.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Nov 20, 2011 at 11:00 PM
Oh I meant he'd have a driver at his source then receivers at each sub.  The receivers would convert the signal back to single ended.  If he's adventurous then he could even mount the receivers and their power supplies inside the each sub's cabinet.

Native balanced circuitry would still be far superior, imho.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: chrisbulog on Nov 22, 2011 at 09:09 AM
dayton audio b652 sir, siguro nga sir, ngayon ko lang tiningnan 68 pala max vol nito, adjust ko na lang volume ng player ko sa PC para di yung receiver ang tumaas masyado...  :)

Hi Sir, try to check your channel levels.

Dati po kasi puro + (db) ang settings ko (Front L&R +8db, Center +10db, Surround L&R +13db & SW +15db) kaya ang max volume ng Pioneer 520k ko is up to 60+ lang.

Pero nung nag inquire ako about standard channel levels, and do the TEST TONE (build in ng AVR natin), naging ganito setting ko Sir:

fronts L&R -5 db
center  -5 db
surround L&R 0 db
SW - 5 db

Then nagulat ako na di na stress yung mga speakers ko, mainit pa rin naman yung AVR ko lalo na pag 2 channel music pero di po sobrang nakakapaso.

And ang levels ko is abot ng 80+, pero around 60 to 65 lang ako both movies & music e sobrang satisfied na po ako

Try nyo po Sir, this method really helps.

Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM
na adjust ko na sir, during calibration kasi binago lahat ng MCACC ung setting halos lahat negative db yung lahat na channel so binago ko na, so far so good ok na...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ehmarzo on Nov 24, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Pioneer VSX-1020  or VSX-921 ?

same price range.  which one should i get?  pareho may video upscaling,  921 nga lang pwede ipad. 

hindi ba standy pass through ang 1020? 

thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 24, 2011 at 12:23 PM
921 na lang sir mas latest yan  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ehmarzo on Nov 24, 2011 at 04:06 PM
921 na lang sir mas latest yan  :)

ano advantage ng vsx921 aside from pwede na IPAD? 

parang mas maraming features parin kasi ang vsx1020 kaya lang di ako sure.  im not a techie guy and a newbie in HT setup.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 24, 2011 at 05:44 PM
quote ko lang sabi ni sir stagea

Quote
Aside from the usual feature variations, the 2011 models are supposed to have more robust power supplies. This should make them more capable of handling high current demands. I'm not sure how they did it without significantly increasing the weight, however.

yang 921, 2011 model yan...  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 83nj0 on Nov 25, 2011 at 09:38 AM
hello fellow pdvd member

Iam new to this hobby and im planning to get my first av receivers. Target ko is the pioneer 521 since ito ang pasok sa budget ko. Is this a good receiver? or better mghanap na lng ako ng 2nd hand receiver with the same price? Will be using it for movie=60% and music=40%.

BTW my current set of speakers are pioneer speaker for the center and surround plus the bookshelf aiwa speaker from our old component . Tsaka na ako mghahanap ng magandang speaker,ipon mode muna ako.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Nov 25, 2011 at 10:38 AM
ask ko lang po kung magkano yung pioneer elite receiver yung pinaka cheapest sa elite line up nila. wala kasing akong nakikita sa marketplace na nag sell ng elite receiver
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Nov 25, 2011 at 10:40 AM
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,140324.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,140324.0.html)  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Nov 25, 2011 at 10:50 AM
thanks sir po sir lncc63 merun po ba pricelist nung mga brand new po..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 25, 2011 at 11:34 AM
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hello fellow pdvd member

Iam new to this hobby and im planning to get my first av receivers. Target ko is the pioneer 521 since ito ang pasok sa budget ko. Is this a good receiver? or better mghanap na lng ako ng 2nd hand receiver with the same price? Will be using it for movie=60% and music=40%.

BTW my current set of speakers are pioneer speaker for the center and surround plus the bookshelf aiwa speaker from our old component . Tsaka na ako mghahanap ng magandang speaker,ipon mode muna ako.

ito receiver ko ngayon, its a very good AVR para sakin, why? 3D ready na, 5.1 but can be upgraded to 7.1 (pre-out), can decode dts-hd ma and dd-trueHD...  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Nov 25, 2011 at 01:17 PM
Sorry no pricelist. Try the Marketplace or the Stores topics.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jacboss13 on Nov 27, 2011 at 02:48 PM
Mga sir question lang po mga magkano po ang 1121 dito thanks...

And one more question ano ang lamang ng 1021 sa 921? Parang hdmi input Lang ang nakikita ko na dif eh
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ehmarzo on Dec 01, 2011 at 12:40 PM
does the video up scaling capabilities of the 1020/1021 justifies the extra cost?  or am i good with the 521? 

all i want is good sound for both ht and music with easy calibration.   

thanks guys.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: catblue on Dec 01, 2011 at 04:03 PM
May nakita ako Pioneer sa Youtube... Share ko lang.  :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oznuiz689kQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1RY6zY4zm8
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 01, 2011 at 04:57 PM
does the video up scaling capabilities of the 1020/1021 justifies the extra cost?  or am i good with the 521? 

all i want is good sound for both ht and music with easy calibration.   

thanks guys.

I think yes. I've tried it with dvd 480p copies.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Dec 01, 2011 at 11:04 PM
im wondering what speakers really synergize well with pioneer AVRs, specially the 521  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ehmarzo on Dec 02, 2011 at 06:56 AM
I think yes. I've tried it with dvd 480p copies.

thanks Sir Nelson.    i think i will push through with 1021.  $399 lang sya sa amazon ngayon.   P40k plus parin sya dito.   

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jaime4i on Dec 02, 2011 at 08:00 AM
Hello! im planning to buy a Pioneer AVR before the year end. i would like to ask if this is a good buy. 110V from the US. Currently negotiating the seller for the best price. No problem with the customs here in davao central office, suki na ako :) . here is the items.

http://www.ebay.ph/itm/Pioneer-VSX-1021-K-7-1CH-Receiver-AirPlay-5-HDMi-Dolby-TrueHD-DTS-HD-3D-NEW-/390369198660?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item5ae3d14244
Price: US $389.95
Shipping:US $165.75 USPS Priority Mail International

Pioneer Elite Receiver VSX-30
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390369198660&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
Price: US $269.99
Shipping: US $165 USPS Priority Mail International
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 02, 2011 at 08:53 AM
Hello! im planning to buy a Pioneer AVR before the year end. i would like to ask if this is a good buy. 110V from the US. Currently negotiating the seller for the best price. No problem with the customs here in davao central office, suki na ako :) . here is the items.

http://www.ebay.ph/itm/Pioneer-VSX-1021-K-7-1CH-Receiver-AirPlay-5-HDMi-Dolby-TrueHD-DTS-HD-3D-NEW-/390369198660?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item5ae3d14244
Price: US $389.95
Shipping:US $165.75 USPS Priority Mail International

Pioneer Elite Receiver VSX-30
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390369198660&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
Price: US $269.99
Shipping: US $165 USPS Priority Mail International

Go for the elite if your lookin for power. 1020 user ko, and so far, i'm very satisfied with it's performance with my 4 ohms speaker, currently set at large.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jaime4i on Dec 02, 2011 at 08:59 AM
Go for the elite if your lookin for power. 1020 user ko, and so far, i'm very satisfied with it's performance with my 4 ohms speaker, currently set at large.

thanks for the advice sir, very much appreciated... its time to buy :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ehmarzo on Dec 02, 2011 at 09:59 AM
Go for the elite if your lookin for power. 1020 user ko, and so far, i'm very satisfied with it's performance with my 4 ohms speaker, currently set at large.

Sir Nelson one more question,  im hesitant to buy the 1021 from amazon due to warranty issues.   the way i see it, the only features that separates the 1021 from 1020 are ipad compatibility and hdmi passthru.   

worth the risk ba bumili ng 1021 thru amazon w/o warranty or go for 1020 locally with warranty?  and what's the work around for not having hdmi passthru? 

thanks.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 83nj0 on Dec 03, 2011 at 07:22 AM
Just bought my 521 last week.Yesterday ko lng ngamit ung portable audio input nya on the front panel,napansin ko walang sounds na lumalabas sa right speaker. Then ngsetup ako sa old component namin using the same cable and portable player ok naman ung sounds on both speaker. May naka-encounter na ba sa inyo ng ganito sir? Baka may makatulong before I return the unit sa store. tnx

Current speaker setup for my 521, R / L / and Center only.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: shoji on Dec 03, 2011 at 10:12 AM
ok naba yung vsx521 for 1st time buyer 50% gaming 50% movies at kahit 2 speakers lang muna.

planning to buy hopefully jan. - feb.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 03, 2011 at 10:59 AM
Sir Nelson one more question,  im hesitant to buy the 1021 from amazon due to warranty issues.   the way i see it, the only features that separates the 1021 from 1020 are ipad compatibility and hdmi passthru.   

worth the risk ba bumili ng 1021 thru amazon w/o warranty or go for 1020 locally with warranty?  and what's the work around for not having hdmi passthru? 

thanks.


Mine came from Amazon. Dati kasi, quite expensive dito ang 1020. I have issues with the 1020. Probably because i just needed a simple receiver and it just so happen na mura sa Amazon that time. Re warranty, yes there are risks of course. You're safer with locally distributed units. But after 1 year, amazon, grey or local units, parehas na tayong magbabayad kapag nasira.  :D

Just bought my 521 last week.Yesterday ko lng ngamit ung portable audio input nya on the front panel,napansin ko walang sounds na lumalabas sa right speaker. Then ngsetup ako sa old component namin using the same cable and portable player ok naman ung sounds on both speaker. May naka-encounter na ba sa inyo ng ganito sir? Baka may makatulong before I return the unit sa store. tnx

Current speaker setup for my 521, R / L / and Center only.

Did you test the unit before you bought it? It's not normal. Better return it and sila ang ma-moblema.

ok naba yung vsx521 for 1st time buyer 50% gaming 50% movies at kahit 2 speakers lang muna.

planning to buy hopefully jan. - feb.

Yes. If capable, add a sub sa budget. Then center speakers.  :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 03, 2011 at 03:10 PM
Mine came from Amazon. Dati kasi, quite expensive dito ang 1020. I have issues with the 1020. Probably because i just needed a simple receiver and it just so happen na mura sa Amazon that time.

Ano issue mo Master Nelson? Dahil hindi pa flagship Elite binili mo? Kayang kaya mo naman eh.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 03, 2011 at 08:07 PM
Ano issue mo Master Nelson? Dahil hindi pa flagship Elite binili mo? Kayang kaya mo naman eh.

Issues sa budget.  ;D DIY speaks lang dapat ang gagawin ko for my entry level Pio, i ended up buying the 1020 for it's EQ. It was all worth it naman. Yun "loud & clear" DIY 4 ohms speakers ko, naging "louder & clearer".  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 83nj0 on Dec 04, 2011 at 07:11 AM
Did you test the unit before you bought it? It's not normal. Better return it and sila ang ma-moblema.


Turn outs that 521 Front Inputs is mapili sa cable.
Brought my unit to the store and test it using my cable, as expected walang sounds coming from the right speaker, they also test it using their demo unit and got the same result.Then the store test my unit using their own cable.Boom! complete sound from all speakers!. Knowing that my cable is not defective I ask them to test it using other unit. Boom! complete sound from all speakers! In the end the store just gave me a cable that is compatible with the 521.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Dec 04, 2011 at 09:38 AM
speaker cable sir? sa 521 ko utp cat 5 cable lang gamit ko as speaker cable  :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 83nj0 on Dec 04, 2011 at 11:33 AM
speaker cable sir? sa 521 ko utp cat 5 cable lang gamit ko as speaker cable  :D

Mini-Stereo Audio Cable Sir. Use for the portable source on the front audio input of our 521. ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dandyqb on Dec 04, 2011 at 12:38 PM
ah,yung 3.5 to 3.5 interconnect cable, im using a pro co dynamike 224s cable w/ rean plugs for that, DIY nga lang...  :)

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 12, 2011 at 02:06 PM
My brother bought the Pio VSX-521K... hope we can setup his HT soon!   :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 12, 2011 at 05:41 PM
My brother bought the Pio VSX-521K... hope we can setup his HT soon!   :)

Nahawa sa iyo.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 12, 2011 at 06:23 PM
Nahawa sa iyo.  ;)


Actually sabay kami ni utol during the 90's na naka vhs/vcd pa at naka pro logic na amp hehehe... Sarap na nga pangkalso ng sasakyan yun amp na yun...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: CocoBoy on Dec 12, 2011 at 08:13 PM
I bought my 1020 from Kelly last Thursday.  Sulit na sulit, considerable upgrade from my yamaha 730.  Though the unit is almost new, bought it without the mcacc mic.  Do you guys think its worth buying the mcacc mic for roughly 2.5k from amazon(landed na) or tweak ko na lang manually using the manual mcacc feature?

Pa rent na lang kaya ng may mic dyan? ;D

Feedback will be appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 12, 2011 at 09:10 PM
I bought my 1020 from Kelly last Thursday.  Sulit na sulit, considerable upgrade from my yamaha 730.  Though the unit is almost new, bought it without the mcacc mic.  Do you guys think its worth buying the mcacc mic for roughly 2.5k from amazon(landed na) or tweak ko na lang manually using the manual mcacc feature?

Pa rent na lang kaya ng may mic dyan? ;D

Feedback will be appreciated.

Thanks
mas maganda hiram ka ng mic, tapos try mo kung magustuhan mo result ng calibration  :)
pag OK tsaka kana order  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 13, 2011 at 01:17 AM
mas maganda hiram ka ng mic, tapos try mo kung magustuhan mo result ng calibration  :)
pag OK tsaka kana order  ;)

Once calibrated, you won't need the mic na. Hehe!

I bought my 1020 from Kelly last Thursday.  Sulit na sulit, considerable upgrade from my yamaha 730.  Though the unit is almost new, bought it without the mcacc mic.  Do you guys think its worth buying the mcacc mic for roughly 2.5k from amazon(landed na) or tweak ko na lang manually using the manual mcacc feature?

Pa rent na lang kaya ng may mic dyan? ;D

Feedback will be appreciated.

Thanks

Masmaganda may mic ka for ease in tweaking afterwards. Taga saan ka?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: CocoBoy on Dec 13, 2011 at 05:19 AM
Batangas pa ako Bro Nelson :D. I just need a one time calibration to use this feature of the 1020 since I do not see moving my setup anytime soon to any place in the house. Amazon offers it at around 15usd pero shipping is around 38usd.

In any case, I have done the mcacc manually since provided din naman pala yun.  Baka lang I can make it better using the mic.

Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 13, 2011 at 05:39 AM
Batangas pa ako Bro Nelson :D. I just need a one time calibration to use this feature of the 1020 since I do not see moving my setup anytime soon to any place in the house. Amazon offers it at around 15usd pero shipping is around 38usd.

In any case, I have done the mcacc manually since provided din naman pala yun.  Baka lang I can make it better using the mic.

Thanks
although di advisable try mo muna ordinary mic  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 13, 2011 at 07:33 AM
Batangas pa ako Bro Nelson :D. I just need a one time calibration to use this feature of the 1020 since I do not see moving my setup anytime soon to any place in the house. Amazon offers it at around 15usd pero shipping is around 38usd.

In any case, I have done the mcacc manually since provided din naman pala yun.  Baka lang I can make it better using the mic.

Thanks

You can PM Anya the link and ask him how much ang pio mic sa kanya. Baka makamura ka sa kanya. Though baka it will take you 2 months nga lang. pero mura naman.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: CocoBoy on Dec 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM
Eto yun di ba mga bros?


http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-MC20-Auto-EQ-Microphone-Receivers/dp/B0038PIGDW/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_t_1

Thanks.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 13, 2011 at 08:26 PM
Eto yun di ba mga bros?


http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-MC20-Auto-EQ-Microphone-Receivers/dp/B0038PIGDW/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_t_1

Thanks.

Looks like mine. PM mo na si Anya!!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 14, 2011 at 06:59 AM
Eto yun di ba mga bros?


http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-MC20-Auto-EQ-Microphone-Receivers/dp/B0038PIGDW/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_t_1

Thanks.
uy this looks exactly like kiwimig is selling  :)
950 lang yata, works accurately with his receiver  :)

here's the link (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,148474.msg1512290.html#msg1512290)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 14, 2011 at 07:15 AM
Master Nelson, patesting ng mic na yan. Pareho pala yan ng model na para sa auto calibration ng receiver ng kariton na inuupahan ko. ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 14, 2011 at 07:27 AM
Master Nelson, patesting ng mic na yan. Pareho pala yan ng model na para sa auto calibration ng receiver ng kariton na inuupahan ko. ;)

Surely master jedi gugu Ivan. Sana nauwi mo kahapon. Sat?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: txtranger on Dec 14, 2011 at 01:58 PM
I read the 2011~2012 new catalogue of Pioneer. Came across the VSX-S500-K, is this unit any good? Any reviews for this yet? I've searched the internet and found none for some reviews, I think because it's just new in the market. Appreciate if you could share some opinions.

Cheers! ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: CocoBoy on Dec 14, 2011 at 02:02 PM
uy this looks exactly like kiwimig is selling  :)
950 lang yata, works accurately with his receiver  :)

here's the link (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,148474.msg1512290.html#msg1512290)

Hayun, got it!! Thanks Ninja, contacted kiwimig already.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 15, 2011 at 04:31 AM
Hayun, got it!! Thanks Ninja, contacted kiwimig already.
bait yan bro, happy calibrating   ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 15, 2011 at 05:27 AM
I read the 2011~2012 new catalogue of Pioneer. Came across the VSX-S500-K, is this unit any good? Any reviews for this yet? I've searched the internet and found none for some reviews, I think because it's just new in the market. Appreciate if you could share some opinions.

Cheers! ;D

It looks good. It's supposedly fairly high-current capable, as far as entry level slimline AVRs go. The reason is because it utilizes high efficiency amplification (Class D).

As far as sonics is concerned, we are yet to find out. I'm hoping that it comes close to the quality that Pioneer's Class D implementations are known for (the higher Elite models, to be exact).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: txtranger on Dec 19, 2011 at 08:49 AM
It looks good. It's supposedly fairly high-current capable, as far as entry level slimline AVRs go. The reason is because it utilizes high efficiency amplification (Class D).

As far as sonics is concerned, we are yet to find out. I'm hoping that it comes close to the quality that Pioneer's Class D implementations are known for (the higher Elite models, to be exact).


Thanks Stagea for the info.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ramdac17 on Dec 28, 2011 at 09:27 PM
Hi Masters,

Newbie lang po me sa AVR world and I have no idea how to set this one up. I have a Pioneer VSX D902S... no manual and no remote. (Napalanunan ko lang sa opis)... Fully functional naman and maganda pa ang itsura. Buttons are crisp and panel is clear. Problem is, I have no Idea what speaker/s to use... kung anong Ohms/watts etc etc... I tried reading some articles/forum dito sa PDVD pero nd ko ma-gets yung measures and terms para ma set up yung AVR...

Need your advise and opinion mga master kung pano gagawin ko sa new Toy ko...

PS: kala ko parang player lang yung weight nung AVR.... hambigat pla neto.... Thanks in Aadvance po and Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jan 25, 2012 at 04:46 PM
Hi Masters,

Newbie lang po me sa AVR world and I have no idea how to set this one up. I have a Pioneer VSX D902S... no manual and no remote. (Napalanunan ko lang sa opis)... Fully functional naman and maganda pa ang itsura. Buttons are crisp and panel is clear. Problem is, I have no Idea what speaker/s to use... kung anong Ohms/watts etc etc... I tried reading some articles/forum dito sa PDVD pero nd ko ma-gets yung measures and terms para ma set up yung AVR...

Need your advise and opinion mga master kung pano gagawin ko sa new Toy ko...

PS: kala ko parang player lang yung weight nung AVR.... hambigat pla neto.... Thanks in Aadvance po and Happy New Year!

walang sumagot  :(

sir wala akong pioneer pero nag try ako mag search ng manual para i-check yung power rating ng amp mo pero wala ako makita e. typical speakers have 20-100W ratings, siguro naman yung amp mo e around 60-100W  ??? i suggest mag email ka sa pioneer baka meron pa silang downloadable manual

marami naman speakers na pwede mong i-try i.e Mission, Wharfedale, Polk etc. its a matter of preference at budget din syempre. dalhin mo yung amp mo during audition and sabi nga nila, let your ears decided which speaker is best for you. HTH!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: barrister on Jan 27, 2012 at 07:43 AM
walang sumagot  :(

Ang labo kasi ng tanong e.

Baka 10 paragraphs na ang maisulat ko tapos wala pa rin don ang kailangan niya.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 29, 2012 at 05:42 PM
Ang labo kasi ng tanong e.

Baka 10 paragraphs na ang maisulat ko tapos wala pa rin don ang kailangan niya.



nyahahah natawa ako dito hihihihi




guys how much current price ng pio 1020 ngayon?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: CocoBoy on Jan 29, 2012 at 08:09 PM
I got my US unit from Kelly(electrohaus) a little lower that 20k. I think 220v units are released on sale by stores at around 21-22k.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 29, 2012 at 08:13 PM
I got my US unit from Kelly(electrohaus) a little lower that 20k. I think 220v units are released on sale by stores at around 21-22k.

im planning to buy with KELLY as well
110 unit kasi - bibili pa ako ng transformer 
mga magkano ba ung ok?

first AVR ko kung sakali

i can't decide - but i still have one week
tight budget din kasi

ok na ako sa ONKYO HTIB e pero still searching for good offers


liit lang ng bahay ko
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 29, 2012 at 10:40 PM
im planning to buy with KELLY as well
110 unit kasi - bibili pa ako ng transformer 
mga magkano ba ung ok?

first AVR ko kung sakali

i can't decide - but i still have one week
tight budget din kasi

ok na ako sa ONKYO HTIB e pero still searching for good offers


liit lang ng bahay ko

Mag-ikot ka muna and audition different brands. Take your time.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jan 29, 2012 at 10:44 PM
Mag-ikot ka muna and audition different brands. Take your time.
+1
kung mamadaliin ang pagbili baka mauwi agad sa upgrade.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 29, 2012 at 11:27 PM
Mag-ikot ka muna and audition different brands. Take your time.

hehehe
mukhang mahirap kasi magupgrade sa liit ng space hahaha
pagnakabili ako sir nelson
deactivate ko na ung account ko dito hahaha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Feb 03, 2012 at 12:00 AM
pioneer vsx 521-k or yamaha rxv371? which is which in terms of price-performance ratio?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Feb 03, 2012 at 01:50 AM
pioneer vsx 521-k or yamaha rxv371? which is which in terms of price-performance ratio?

Mas malakas yung Pioneer against sa Yamaha dito.. I heard the Pioneer and it's really good for HT..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mdelro on Feb 03, 2012 at 04:58 AM
pioneer vsx 521-k or yamaha rxv371? which is which in terms of price-performance ratio?
Pioneer ka na bro, very happy with my pioneer 1021-k, parang 609 sya sa onkyo :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 03, 2012 at 07:23 AM
pioneer vsx 521-k or yamaha rxv371? which is which in terms of price-performance ratio?

Pioneer thread ito. So kinda expect most posters na maging biased sa Pioneer.  ;) Though maganda naman talaga ang Pioneer.  ;D Especially the Elite series.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 03, 2012 at 08:46 AM
Pioneer thread ito. So kinda expect most posters na maging biased sa Pioneer.  ;) Though maganda naman talaga ang Pioneer.  ;D Especially the Elite series.
im not a pio fan/user, i must say sa pricing sila ang the best   :D
lalo na yung older models with beefy amps  :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Feb 03, 2012 at 08:52 AM
pioneer nowadays can now compete with yamaha in terms of features unlike previous years. and its cheaper specially when new models are coming out. expect the older units price to go down as much as 50%. wow.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Feb 03, 2012 at 08:54 AM
Pioneer thread ito. So kinda expect most posters na maging biased sa Pioneer.  ;) Though maganda naman talaga ang Pioneer.  ;D Especially the Elite series.

Im a Yamaha user and also a fan, but again not all models are good.. In the comparison the pioneer has a beefier amp and more features than the Yamaha...

LX series of Pio are really nice...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 03, 2012 at 09:02 AM
pioneer nowadays can now compete with yamaha in terms of features unlike previous years. and its cheaper specially when new models are coming out. expect the older units price to go down as much as 50%. wow.  ;D
yes bro, yung gamit ni don nelson de leon aka jojodpogi ganda ng features .. pero kailangan ng beefier amp *Kulam mode ON*   ;D ;D

pansin ko talaga sa onkyo, denon, marantz, yamaha etc. maski 2 year old model parang modelo parin ang pricing, discounted lang ng konte.  
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Feb 03, 2012 at 10:14 AM
Pioneer ka na bro, very happy with my pioneer 1021-k, parang 609 sya sa onkyo :)
hehe eh above entry level na rin naman yang 1021 eh..

medjo nalilito ako between both entry level avrs (yamaha and pioneer)

pioneer:
- cheaper (by 3k diff)
- good entry level as per reviews (price-performance ratio)

yamaha:
- more I/O compared to pioneer
- YPAO
- good entry level din as per reviews

nakakalito kung ano ba talaga ang good buy..btw, it will be my first avr if ever.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Feb 03, 2012 at 10:51 AM
If you can wait, sa  amazon Yammy Aventage starts $350 USD lang
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Feb 03, 2012 at 12:18 PM
walang problema umorder sa amazon pero am more concerned sa warranty claims? how does it work ba? papadala mo ulit? mura nga pero baka hassle sa warranty eh..what if DOA ang unit pag dating dito..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Feb 03, 2012 at 12:40 PM
walang problema umorder sa amazon pero am more concerned sa warranty claims? how does it work ba? papadala mo ulit? mura nga pero baka hassle sa warranty eh..what if DOA ang unit pag dating dito..

If you are worried about it just buy it locally for peace of mind...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Feb 03, 2012 at 04:12 PM
walang problema umorder sa amazon pero am more concerned sa warranty claims? how does it work ba? papadala mo ulit? mura nga pero baka hassle sa warranty eh..what if DOA ang unit pag dating dito..
yan ang cons buying outside specialy sa amazon.mura nga no doubt vs local pricing.
kung matsambahan ka lang ng lemon unit dun ka talo.isolated cases naman yan pero may risk pa rin
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 03, 2012 at 04:32 PM
 ;D  ;D  ;D

more inputs haha...
watching watching
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dreidrei on Feb 05, 2012 at 10:17 PM
If you can wait, sa  amazon Yammy Aventage starts $350 USD lang

Sir if I order/buy from amazon, i ship ba nila dito ang unit and how long will it take?

Sorry havent tried it pa eh im just really curious how it goes.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Feb 06, 2012 at 06:45 AM
Sir if I order/buy from amazon, i ship ba nila dito ang unit and how long will it take?

Sorry havent tried it pa eh im just really curious how it goes.



I  use amazon prime trial then usually ship it to a relative/friend living in the US, who in turn ship them by sea. If you prefer to skip asking your friends/relatives for the favor, may service providers who can ship them by sea for a boxful. Just ship your receiver in its original box and ensure there's good protection. I normally get comforters that can be used to cushion your electronics.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Feb 10, 2012 at 12:37 AM
mga sir ask ko lang regarding my receiver, kasi kanina i tried playing some newly acquired hd movies. yung real steel. den sa bandang kalagitnaan eh. bigla na lang nag lag lag yung movie den napansin ko sa receiver nag shift shift yung interface nya. from dts, pcm, my dolby pa ata.. den lag sya ng lag..  anu po kaya reason nun.. ngayun ko lang na encounter yun..

bali yung player ko po is Acryan HD, ( for me lang galing ako sa kaiboer na pinaka entry level, mas maganda pa yung kaiboer.. sobrang bagal ng acryan na to. parang downgrade ata nagawa ko from kaiboer )
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 10, 2012 at 01:16 AM
mga sir ask ko lang regarding my receiver, kasi kanina i tried playing some newly acquired hd movies. yung real steel. den sa bandang kalagitnaan eh. bigla na lang nag lag lag yung movie den napansin ko sa receiver nag shift shift yung interface nya. from dts, pcm, my dolby pa ata.. den lag sya ng lag..  anu po kaya reason nun.. ngayun ko lang na encounter yun..

bali yung player ko po is Acryan HD, ( for me lang galing ako sa kaiboer na pinaka entry level, mas maganda pa yung kaiboer.. sobrang bagal ng acryan na to. parang downgrade ata nagawa ko from kaiboer )

 Sa ibang movies hindi nanyayare yan...?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Feb 10, 2012 at 02:31 AM
mga sir ask ko lang regarding my receiver, kasi kanina i tried playing some newly acquired hd movies. yung real steel. den sa bandang kalagitnaan eh. bigla na lang nag lag lag yung movie den napansin ko sa receiver nag shift shift yung interface nya. from dts, pcm, my dolby pa ata.. den lag sya ng lag..  anu po kaya reason nun.. ngayun ko lang na encounter yun..

bali yung player ko po is Acryan HD, ( for me lang galing ako sa kaiboer na pinaka entry level, mas maganda pa yung kaiboer.. sobrang bagal ng acryan na to. parang downgrade ata nagawa ko from kaiboer )

I think it's the movie file or the player itself... Pag nag lalag sya nag stostop yung signal papunta sa receiver so nawawala yung audio signal nya and thats the reason you see shifting of decoder display..

Try other movies.. kung specific dyan sa movie na yan.. try getting other copy of that movie..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Feb 10, 2012 at 06:23 AM
I agree. Try another file dun sa AC Ryan and check din kung may bagong firmware. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: cray on Feb 10, 2012 at 10:56 AM
@ sir nelson\courage.. siguro my mga 5 hd movies na nag gaganyan po...

@ master stagea try ko nga po i update tong firmware ng acryan.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Feb 10, 2012 at 12:59 PM
^or try playing those files in another player/nmt if the problem still persists para you can isolate the culprit..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 10, 2012 at 05:35 PM
@ sir nelson\courage.. siguro my mga 5 hd movies na nag gaganyan po...

@ master stagea try ko nga po i update tong firmware ng acryan.



Try mo din i-reset.  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: sablay0301 on Mar 05, 2012 at 11:05 AM
mga sirs question lang po.....I am planning to buy a pioneer 521k this year to be paired with A-audio Charisma 6 FS, BS and Center tapos eventually ay bibili po ako ng Subwoofer next year...kaya po ba i-drive ng 521 yung setup na gusto ko? maraming salamat po
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rochie on Mar 06, 2012 at 12:42 PM
mga sirs question lang po.....I am planning to buy a pioneer 521k this year to be paired with A-audio Charisma 6 FS, BS and Center tapos eventually ay bibili po ako ng Subwoofer next year...kaya po ba i-drive ng 521 yung setup na gusto ko? maraming salamat po


yes kaya ng pioneer 521k yan
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rockysta! on Mar 08, 2012 at 09:54 PM
  hindi ba mahirap ang UI [user interface]  ng pioneer vsx520k 0r 521?

mapurol kasi ako pagdating sa tech ;D

BTW how much ang brand new and where to buy if ever?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 08, 2012 at 10:09 PM
 hindi ba mahirap ang UI [user interface]  ng pioneer vsx520k 0r 521?

mapurol kasi ako pagdating sa tech ;D

BTW how much ang brand new and where to buy if ever?

Practice lang. And read manual.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Mar 09, 2012 at 12:22 AM
  hindi ba mahirap ang UI [user interface]  ng pioneer vsx520k 0r 521?

mapurol kasi ako pagdating sa tech ;D

BTW how much ang brand new and where to buy if ever?

It's among the easiest out there, imho. Yung remote control lang nya ang medyo nakakahilo.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Mar 09, 2012 at 01:08 AM
i'm sure mas user friendly yung 521 kasi may auto calibration na
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 22owen on Mar 09, 2012 at 07:49 AM
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BTW how much ang brand new and where to buy if ever?
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   up lang sa query....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rochie on Mar 09, 2012 at 09:39 PM
saw one at 15,900 with discount for cash purchase at sm appliance center.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Mar 09, 2012 at 10:15 PM
saw one at 15,900 with discount for cash purchase at sm appliance center.

mahal sa SM appliance center. try listening room in megamall or S&S sa shang.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rgbautista on Mar 10, 2012 at 07:44 PM
Mga Sirs, yung audio decoding ba ng yamaha 371 and pioneer 521 pareho lng?  Thinking of getting the 521.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rochie on Mar 11, 2012 at 06:33 AM
Mga Sirs, yung audio decoding ba ng yamaha 371 and pioneer 521 pareho lng?  Thinking of getting the 521.


almost the same lang sila bro
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 22owen on Mar 11, 2012 at 09:01 PM
mahal sa SM appliance center. try listening room in megamall or S&S sa shang.


   yes thats true! flat panels like 51incher samsung  plasmas cost 59k here in sm iloilo :(

 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 05, 2012 at 07:43 AM
May user na ba dito ng Pioneer Elite Series? Ano ang mga magandang speaker na ipair sa pioneer?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 05, 2012 at 09:21 AM
May user na ba dito ng Pioneer Elite Series? Ano ang mga magandang speaker na ipair sa pioneer?

Try mo with Monitor audio silver, or polk speakers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 05, 2012 at 03:56 PM
May user na ba dito ng Pioneer Elite Series? Ano ang mga magandang speaker na ipair sa pioneer?

Class D na Elite ba?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 05, 2012 at 11:46 PM
Class D na Elite ba?

Yes brader alam ko class D na pioneer VSX-60.

(http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/PUSA/Images/Product%20Images/Home/VSX-60_large.jpg)

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Finely tuned, breathtaking home theater performance. Introducing the Pioneer Elite 7.2-Channel VSX-60 AV Receiver.

The new VSX-60 receiver is the answer to a home theater enthusiast's prayers. Delivering remarkable performance in an elegant package, it's designed with advanced technology that performs exquisitely in the moment, while at the same time never taking its eyes off the future.

Made for You--And your iPad®, iPhone® and iPod®


Thanks to Made for iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad certification, Apple devices are easily connected with the included USB/video cable - so there's no need to buy a separate dock to store all your music, videos, streaming content. Plus, since your iPhone, iPod and now your iPad charge automatically when connected, it's the ultimate plug-and-play integration with your home theater. You can enjoy music with iTunes® album art, share videos and movies, downloaded TV shows from iTunes, photos, web content from YouTube® and much more. Got a call? The iPhone will mute movies and music so you can take it. Use the iPhone directly, or push a single button on the VSX-60's front panel to switch control to the included preset remote and an intuitive, full-color GUI.

And new for 2012, the USB port has been upgraded to handle uncompressed 192KHz/24-bit FLAC and WAV music files from your PC or memory storage device for true audiophile level performance.

AirPlay®

With AirPlay, stream music from iTunes to the VSX-60 and play it through your home theater system without docks or cables. Simply connect the receiver to your home network via Ethernet, and it instantly becomes the hub for playback of your iTunes music from your connected Apple® device or networked computer.

You can stream your music straight from your PC or Mac®, iPhone, iPad or iPod touch to the VSX-60 at the touch of a button. Listen to your favorite song in your car using your iPhone, leave your car mid song and walk into your home. Using the AirPlay App on your iPhone, select the VSX-60. When you do, it’ll power up automatically and continue your favorite song right where you left off.

You can even view song information including song title, artist, and track time as well as album art on a connected display. Not only that, the VSX-60's supports network audio sources in Zone 2, allowing you to send music to another room. With AirPlay, there's really no reason why your iTunes music has to be restricted to your computer.

Connect to Your PC Music Files or Internet Radio

The VSX-60's networking ability opens up an entirely new world of possibilities. A rear panel Ethernet port allows full integration into your home network, with Windows 7 and DLNA 1.5 certification, a whole new level of entertainment options are at your fingertips. With 192kHz / 24-bit WAV and FLAC file compatibility, network streaming audio playback is now ready for the true audiophile. Stream your MP3, AAC, WMA, WAV and FLAC music files from your PC, laptop or smartphone to your home theater system.

With vTuner®, the VSX-60 lets you enjoy thousands of Internet radio stations from around the world. You can also access Pandora and SiriusXM (subscription needed) radio services complete with on-screen album art and music information. An optional AS-WL300 wireless adapter is also available for your wireless network convenience.

Unleash Your Smartphone's Music with Bluetooth®

The VSX-60 is fully ready for wireless Bluetooth audio from virtually any A2DP profile Bluetooth device. With the Pioneer AS-BT200 Bluetooth adapter, you can untether yourself from cables and inputs. Plus you'll enjoy enriched quality with Sound Retriever AIR technology, created specifically to enhance Bluetooth audio.

Ultimate Sound Control

The VSX-60 supports formats like Dolby® TrueHD and DTS-HD® Master Audio to give your Blu-ray Disc™ soundtracks unsurpassed audio quality. Pioneer also includes all of the Dolby and DTS surround formats best suited for the wide variety of entertainment sources, including the newest Dolby Pro Logic® IIz height channel.

Like a musical instrument, your home theater system needs to be tuned. Pioneer's Advanced Multi-Channel Acoustic Calibration system (MCACC) provides an optimized, multi-channel listening experience calibrated and customized specifically to your room by measuring every speaker's connection, and noting size and distance from the listening point, sound levels and timbre.

To eliminate the distortion caused by jitter during conversion, Pioneer’s PQLS technology allows the VSX-60 to use its own high precision clock and adjust the transmission rate of bitstream sound data from a compatible Blu-Ray player, insuring every note and nuance is faithfully reproduced.

The VSX-60 takes the multi-channel audio experience to a whole new level with four advanced, sound-enhancing virtual speaker modes. Virtual Depth is designed to complement 3D movies. Virtual Height creates sound effects from above your main front speakers, creating virtual height speakers ideal for gaming enthusiasts. Virtual Wide creates a seamless blend between your front and back speakers. Virtual Surround Back replaces your back surround speakers, freeing you to use the surround amplifier to drive a second zone, or bi-amp the front speakers. Virtual speaker modes can be applied together or separately.

Filling in areas where minute details were left out during the compression process, even compressed audio like WMA, MP3 and AAC is enhanced with another Pioneer exclusive, Advanced Sound Retriever.

Advanced Qdeo™ Video Processing. Picture Perfect Whatever the Source

Using Qdeo™ processing technology and Pioneer’s extensive video know-how makes home theater a truly immersive experience. The VSX-60 provides video conversion from composite and component video to HDMI for a single-wire high-definition audio and video solution as well as up to 1080p video scaling for an exceptional picture regardless of the source, creating natural and noise-free video for maximum performance and flexibility.

Get Ready for 3D with the Latest HDMI® Technology

All of Pioneer's newest receivers support the latest HDMI specifications. So not only do you get the most out of your existing movies and music, with the VSX-60 you're prepared for the new generation of 3D video content. With 7 HDMI inputs, you've got plenty of connectivity options for the growing number of high-definition sources available. The VSX-60 also offers advanced HDMI conveniences like Audio Return Channel and Power Save HDMI Standby Through.

BD Link for Blu-Ray Disc Playback That Excels

The built-in BD Link technology of the VSX-60 maximizes the fidelity of high-bandwidth, high-definition Blu-Ray Disc playback from a compatible Pioneer or Elite Blu-Ray Player. BD Link Sound Retriever and BD Link Stream Smoother work together to ensure total fidelity from the original source, with no visual artifacts or out-of-sync audio at full HD resolutions, even in the fastest action scenes.

Transform your Apple Device into a Powerful Remote Control

Communicating with the VSX-60 wirelessly through your home network, Pioneer's free iControlAV2012 app turns your iPhone, iPod touch and iPad device or select Android™ devices into a powerful remote control for your receiver. The all new iControlAV2012 is fully redesigned, incorporating everything from basic volume and input selection to advanced features like EQ adjustments and Internet Radio control. iControlAV2012 for iPad includes enhanced features like vertical and horizontal orientation, intuitive control of music from networked PCs as well as Internet radio control, and a super- cool finger EQ adjust screen; simply draw the EQ curve to your desired sound preference. New Sound Explorer gives you easy access to experiment with the many powerful sound enhancements the VSX-60 offers, like Hi-Bit 24, Auto Phase Control Plus, and Virtual Speaker modes.

Know How and Show How with AVNavigator

Imagine an owner’s manual that actually communicates with your receiver. Or that asks you what sources you'd like to connect and how you'd like to configure your speakers – then walks you through the process as you do it.

An industry-first, Pioneer's AVNavigator truly is an interactive owner’s manual that takes all the guesswork out of setting up your receiver. AV Navigator uses your networked PC or iPad to communicate directly with the VSX-60, walking you through speaker set-up, Advanced MCACC room calibration, sound optimization, firmware updates and more.

Full-Color On-Screen Graphical User Interface


All of the VSX-60's advanced control and connectivity options are made even better with a full-color user interface via HDMI on your connected TV. Effortlessly navigate through the VSX-60's menu and enjoy iTunes album art from a connected Apple device. This is one well-rounded AV receiver.

Ideal for Custom Home Theater Installation


The Elite series was designed with an eye toward custom-installed home theater solutions, with features to match. Multi-zone capability with support for Zone2 outputs allows you to watch movies or listen to music in two rooms at once. An RS-232 bus connection allows custom installers access into the “control brain” of the VSX-60, for customized remote control development. The VSX-60 is compatible with popular "whole-house" entertainment systems such as Crestron, AMX, Control 4, Universal, Savant, and RTI, and its IP capabilities allow users to control their entertainment system via a home network.

All this plus support for Pioneer Apps, 3rd party control devices, custom-ready detachable power cord, and IR in/out for universal remotes make the Elite series the ultimate answer for a custom home entertainment solution.

May available na ba locally na elite model ng pioneer?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 05, 2012 at 11:51 PM
1021k or onkyo 805?
not gonna need 3d and extra hdmi port

any thoughts ?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 05, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Try mo with Monitor audio silver, or polk speakers.

Thanks brader.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 05, 2012 at 11:57 PM
Yes brader alam ko class D na pioneer VSX-60.

(http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/PUSA/Images/Product%20Images/Home/VSX-60_large.jpg)

May available na ba locally na elite model ng pioneer?

Uyyy brader napakaganda nyang plano mong bilhin ah..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 06, 2012 at 12:24 AM
Yes brader alam ko class D na pioneer VSX-60.

May available na ba locally na elite model ng pioneer?

Good choice, sir. :) The Elite models deliver rated power with all channels driven. Furthermore, the Class D models have good current capacity which would allow you to choose speakers to your heart's content (unless you have a very big room, or intend to play very loud).

As for availability, by order lang ata.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 06, 2012 at 01:57 AM
saw one pio elite at automatic center gateway.vsx30 iirc.
ang laki :o nanliit yung vsx 1020 na katabi :D :D :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 06, 2012 at 04:53 AM
Uyyy brader napakaganda nyang plano mong bilhin ah..

Thanks brader. Thanks to brader joko namention niya ang pioneer elite settled na sana ako sa onkyo.  ;D ;D ;D

Good choice, sir. :) The Elite models deliver rated power with all channels driven. Furthermore, the Class D models have good current capacity which would allow you to choose speakers to your heart's content (unless you have a very big room, or intend to play very loud).

As for availability, by order lang ata.

Yes brader i'm building my dedicated HT with size of 3.5Mx4M and some brand of speaker I'm thinking to purchase is monitor audio/B&W FS and in the future with 7.2 setup. I believe that setup need more power so the pioneer elite is a good choice with 90 x 7 (20 Hz - 20 kHz) Power Output Watts per Channel. I will check also the local price and compare to US currently the VSX-60 model has a $650 SRP at US.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 06, 2012 at 08:06 AM
You have a lot of speakers to choose from. Note your requirements and your budget, so that you can narrow down your list. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 06, 2012 at 08:42 AM
You have a lot of speakers to choose from. Note your requirements and your budget, so that you can narrow down your list. :)

Sana nga brader may maaudition ako na monitor audio and B&W with pioneer elite receiver. Yan two brand kasi plan ko kunin.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 06, 2012 at 09:01 AM
Sana nga brader may maaudition ako na monitor audio and B&W with pioneer elite receiver. Yan two brand kasi plan ko kunin.  ;D ;D
akala ko kef na?   :P
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 06, 2012 at 09:15 AM
akala ko kef na?   :P

Na audition ko kasi yung B&W sa HiFi show last december brader nagandahan ako ang problema ko lang kasi dati baka di kaya idrive ng ng onkyo receiver baka need ba ng additional amp. Si brader joko pinacheck sa akin yung pioneer elite and meron siya 90 x 7 (20 Hz - 20 kHz) Power Output Watts per Channel kaya need ko audition ang MA and B&W speaker with pioneer elite.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nogie on Apr 06, 2012 at 09:56 AM
Yes brader alam ko class D na pioneer VSX-60.

(http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/PUSA/Images/Product%20Images/Home/VSX-60_large.jpg)

May available na ba locally na elite model ng pioneer?

AFAIK, the above elite model is not class D amplifier. Current Pioneer elite with class D amplifier are SC-55 & SC-57. VSX-60 as many users are claiming is identical to the VSX-1021.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 06, 2012 at 10:08 AM
AFAIK, the above elite model is not class D amplifier. Current Pioneer elite with class D amplifier are SC-55 & SC-57. VSX-60 as many users are claiming is identical to the VSX-1021.

Tama brader di ko napansin sa pioneer website.   ;D ;D ;D

The Powerhouse $1,700.00
Featuring Pioneer's all-new Class D3 amplifier, the SC-55 enters a new realm of all-channels driven power.

The Ultimate @$2,100.00
As the top of the line, this Class-D3, THX Ultra2 Plus certified AV receiver is truly the ultimate home theater component.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 06, 2012 at 02:30 PM
Oo nga no, Direct Energy (Class AB) pala yung VSX-60.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 06, 2012 at 04:05 PM
Oo nga no, Direct Energy (Class AB) pala yung VSX-60.

Magkano kaya class D sa atin locally pag lumabas? Yung VSX-1021 nga nasa 40k na. Pero baka mag VSX-60 na lang din ako medyo mahal yung class D.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 06, 2012 at 06:57 PM
Eto target ko for december next year :) :)

Pioneer Elite SC-57 A/V Receiver

(http://www.hometheater.com/images/1111piorec.promo_.jpg)

Eto brader ang maganda....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 06, 2012 at 07:49 PM
Magkano kaya class D sa atin locally pag lumabas? Yung VSX-1021 nga nasa 40k na. Pero baka mag VSX-60 na lang din ako medyo mahal yung class D.  ;D ;D
may mga 21-23k na 1021k

parang ang bilis ng depreciation value ng pioneer
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 06, 2012 at 08:04 PM
may mga 21-23k na 1021k

parang ang bilis ng depreciation value ng pioneer

Brandnew ba yan?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 06, 2012 at 08:09 PM
tama lang presyo ng 1021k sa 24k.
mabilis bumaba siguro dahil ang bilis nila maglabas ng elite model
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 06, 2012 at 08:19 PM
Brandnew ba yan?
used - base sa presyuhan sa marketplace
im eyeing for it nga but i might end up buying onkyo 805
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 06, 2012 at 08:27 PM
used - base sa presyuhan sa marketplace
im eyeing for it nga but i might end up buying onkyo 805

Kahit naman ibang brand mura din. Ano ba ang katapat ng 1021k?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 06, 2012 at 08:40 PM
Kahit naman ibang brand mura din. Ano ba ang katapat ng 1021k?
1912 ng denon
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 06, 2012 at 09:04 PM
1912 ng denon

Malamng dito lang yan brader lalo na wala naman yata gaano gumagamit ng pioneer pero seeing international price mas mura nga yung denon sa pioneer sa brandnew.  ;D ;D

Denon 1912 $399.99
Pioneer 1021k $456.86
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 06, 2012 at 09:07 PM
Malamng dito lang yan brader lalo na wala naman yata gaano gumagamit ng pioneer pero seeing international price mas mura nga yung denon sa pioneer sa brandnew.  ;D ;D

Denon 1912 $399.99
Pioneer 1021k $456.86


Eto brader Elite oh.. kayang kaya..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-Elite-VSX-51-Receiver-Brand-New-AirPlay-3D-2-Zone-A-V-1080P-Video-Scaler-/170814229659?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item27c5524c9b
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 06, 2012 at 09:24 PM
Eto brader Elite oh.. kayang kaya..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-Elite-VSX-51-Receiver-Brand-New-AirPlay-3D-2-Zone-A-V-1080P-Video-Scaler-/170814229659?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item27c5524c9b

Nice brader wait ko yung Pioneer Elite VSX-60 7.2 kakalabas lang ng pioneer.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 06, 2012 at 09:35 PM
mukang nakulam ka sa pio brader elm ah ;D
tambay ka kasi ng tambay eh :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 06, 2012 at 09:44 PM
mukang nakulam ka sa pio brader elm ah ;D
tambay ka kasi ng tambay eh :D

Haha ou nga kakatambay nakulam ako pati ung sa NAD sa isang thread mukhang nakukulam na din ako.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 06, 2012 at 09:47 PM
Haha ou nga kakatambay nakulam ako pati ung sa NAD sa isang thread mukhang nakukulam na din ako.  ;D ;D
ok lang yan brader
usong uso kulam dito hahaha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 07, 2012 at 02:03 AM
The Powerhouse $1,700.00
Featuring Pioneer's all-new Class D3 amplifier, the SC-55 enters a new realm of all-channels driven power.

The Ultimate @$2,100.00
As the top of the line, this Class-D3, THX Ultra2 Plus certified AV receiver is truly the ultimate home theater component.


These are worthy AVRs. They measure better than many separates (like the $5000 AV8003/MM8003 combination).

The strongest AVRs have faded away like a memory, however. There was a time when mainstream brands rolled out AVRs with formidable amp sections (Pioneer SC-09TX, Denon AVR-5308CI, Yamaha RX-Z11, Integra DTR-8.8, etc.)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: synchro_01 on Apr 07, 2012 at 10:59 AM
speaking of depreciation...of all audio gear that there is to have the biggest depreciation would always go to the AVR for some reason or another. Amps, speakers and subs do not depreciate that much specially the branded ones. Software like CD's and LP's even appreciate in time when OOP already or are considered rare.

Buying audio gears cannot be considered as an investment anyway so the best way to get the most of your money is the get the gear that is right from the get go so that you get to enjoy them much longer. you tend to lose money on the constant upgrading route. 

para di OT...feature for feature the Pioneer brand will never be outgunned by the other AVR manufacturers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 07, 2012 at 01:03 PM
These are worthy AVRs. They measure better than many separates (like the $5000 AV8003/MM8003 combination).

The strongest AVRs have faded away like a memory, however. There was a time when mainstream brands rolled out AVRs with formidable amp sections (Pioneer SC-09TX, Denon AVR-5308CI, Yamaha RX-Z11, Integra DTR-8.8, etc.)

Mapapaisip tuloy ako na SC-55 na ang bilhin ko.  ;D ;D

speaking of depreciation...of all audio gear that there is to have the biggest depreciation would always go to the AVR for some reason or another. Amps, speakers and subs do not depreciate that much specially the branded ones. Software like CD's and LP's even appreciate in time when OOP already or are considered rare.

Buying audio gears cannot be considered as an investment anyway so the best way to get the most of your money is the get the gear that is right from the get go so that you get to enjoy them much longer. you tend to lose money on the constant upgrading route. 

para di OT...feature for feature the Pioneer brand will never be outgunned by the other AVR manufacturers.

+1
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 07, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Mapapaisip tuloy ako na SC-55 na ang bilhin ko.  ;D ;D

+1


Brader.. wag mo na pag isipan.. Ilagay mo na na yan ang target mo... Di ba i told you.. yan ang gamot sa future kulam he he he... Maganda na yung one time big time kulam kesa multiple kulams he he he
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 07, 2012 at 09:50 PM
Brader.. wag mo na pag isipan.. Ilagay mo na na yan ang target mo... Di ba i told you.. yan ang gamot sa future kulam he he he... Maganda na yung one time big time kulam kesa multiple kulams he he he

Nakulam na ako brader nakapost na sa thread ko yung SC-55 speaker na lang ang iisipin ko ano brand Monitor audio or B&W.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 07, 2012 at 09:54 PM
Nakulam na ako brader nakapost na sa thread ko yung SC-55 speaker na lang ang iisipin ko ano brand Monitor audio or B&W.  ;D ;D ;D

kahit saan dyan brader e MAHAL ay este panalo hahaha

gusto ko din matry yang monitor pero ung b&w in my dream nalang lol
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 08, 2012 at 12:10 AM
kahit saan dyan brader e MAHAL ay este panalo hahaha

gusto ko din matry yang monitor pero ung b&w in my dream nalang lol

 I heard the B&W at HiFi show and yun na talaga orig plan ko need ko lang ng AVR that can drive without additional amp. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 16, 2012 at 10:03 AM

mga papables

noob question

how to set pioneer 1021 in stanby mode?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 16, 2012 at 02:38 PM
mga papables

noob question

how to set pioneer 1021 in stanby mode?

Masyado ka kasi sa Market place eh... Pero eto lang yan...

Press the off button sa remote ha ha ha...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 16, 2012 at 04:38 PM
Masyado ka kasi sa Market place eh... Pero eto lang yan...

Press the off button sa remote ha ha ha...

Oo nga. or baka gusto niya yun parang sa mga integrated amp na kapag may input signal, mag-on.

Or pwede din dalhin sa mga malls. Sa gilid ng excalator, pwedeng mag standby dun kasi mainit ang panahon.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 16, 2012 at 07:09 PM
Masyado ka kasi sa Market place eh... Pero eto lang yan...

Press the off button sa remote ha ha ha...

loko ka hahaha...

standby i mean hihihihihi
sa onkyo kasi meron yellow lit for standby - for standby passthrough

hindi ko kasi mapagana ung standby passthrough the receiver hahaha

si papa nelson dumale din hahaha


papa nelson diba naka 1020k ka?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 16, 2012 at 07:46 PM
loko ka hahaha...

standby i mean hihihihihi
sa onkyo kasi meron yellow lit for standby - for standby passthrough

hindi ko kasi mapagana ung standby passthrough the receiver hahaha

si papa nelson dumale din hahaha
papa nelson diba naka 1020k ka?


Ayun. Standby passthrough naman pala.  ;D 1020 lang. Old na.  :D AFAIK, kung ano ang last input selected before you turned your receiver off, dun ata siya naka passthru mode.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 16, 2012 at 07:49 PM
loko ka hahaha...

standby i mean hihihihihi
sa onkyo kasi meron yellow lit for standby - for standby passthrough

hindi ko kasi mapagana ung standby passthrough the receiver hahaha

si papa nelson dumale din hahaha


papa nelson diba naka 1020k ka?


Ha ha ha.. liwanagin mo kasi ha ha ha...

Wala bang settings na Standby Passthru on and off.. Sa yamaha on at off lang yan sa isa sa mga menu's...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 16, 2012 at 08:19 PM
Ayun. Standby passthrough naman pala.  ;D 1020 lang. Old na.  :D AFAIK, kung ano ang last input selected before you turned your receiver off, dun ata siya naka passthru mode.

so meaning completely off sya magpassthrough unlike onkyo na may yellow light indicator hehehe

macheck nga later
paguwi

anu gamit mo speakers sa 1020 mo?



@courage
meron din passthorugh ung iyo? pero off? tama ba? walang light indicator?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Apr 16, 2012 at 08:28 PM
so meaning completely off sya magpassthrough unlike onkyo na may yellow light indicator hehehe

macheck nga later
paguwi

anu gamit mo speakers sa 1020 mo?



@courage
meron din passthorugh ung iyo? pero off? tama ba? walang light indicator?

aba, PIO ka na pala! congrats
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 16, 2012 at 08:29 PM
aba, PIO ka na pala! congrats

hihihi
try lang hahaha..
salamat papa JIM
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 16, 2012 at 08:36 PM
so meaning completely off sya magpassthrough unlike onkyo na may yellow light indicator hehehe

macheck nga later
paguwi

anu gamit mo speakers sa 1020 mo?

@courage
meron din passthorugh ung iyo? pero off? tama ba? walang light indicator?

DIY speakers lang. 10" coax.  :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 16, 2012 at 08:45 PM
anung size ng speaker wire maganda gamitin for the FCR?
saan pwede bumili

ung binili ko kasi e ung sa diy lang
para sa center ko ok naman
pero baka mas maganda pa sa iba
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 16, 2012 at 08:56 PM
anung size ng speaker wire maganda gamitin for the FCR?
saan pwede bumili

ung binili ko kasi e ung sa diy lang
para sa center ko ok naman
pero baka mas maganda pa sa iba
derick gamit ka ng 16gauge pababa.pwede na yung nabibili sa ordinary hardware.kung may extra kang moolah na pwede sunugin sa kable pwede rin yung branded ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:00 PM
so meaning completely off sya magpassthrough unlike onkyo na may yellow light indicator hehehe

macheck nga later
paguwi

anu gamit mo speakers sa 1020 mo?



@courage
meron din passthorugh ung iyo? pero off? tama ba? walang light indicator?

Pag naka passthrough ako may red light indicator yung sa Yamaha.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:13 PM
derick gamit ka ng 16gauge pababa.pwede na yung nabibili sa ordinary hardware.kung may extra kang moolah na pwede sunugin sa kable pwede rin yung branded ;)

sige sige
16 pababa .. KIDS ba yan or Mosquito sa basketball? hehehe


oist may standyby option ba yan pio520 mo joko?


courage ... yup sa onkyo yellow e...

hmmm...hindi ko mapagana sa pio - meron syang passthrough pero nakaon ung receiver lol

sa avforums din hindi din nila ata mapagana ung feature na hdmi standby pass ng pio 1021k and 921k
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:18 PM
derick wala sa 520.521 ang meron.
basta 16 pababa mas masarap.ingat lang baka ma-R.A.7610 ka :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:21 PM
sige sige
16 pababa .. KIDS ba yan or Mosquito sa basketball? hehehe


oist may standyby option ba yan pio520 mo joko?


courage ... yup sa onkyo yellow e...

hmmm...hindi ko mapagana sa pio - meron syang passthrough pero nakaon ung receiver lol

sa avforums din hindi din nila ata mapagana ung feature na hdmi standby pass ng pio 1021k and 921k

I would suggest minimum #14. Flat cord lang ang gamit ko.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:24 PM
derick wala sa 520.521 ang meron.
basta 16 pababa mas masarap.ingat lang baka ma-R.A.7610 ka :D

kabisado ung kaso ah hahaha

need ko lang naman ng 2-3m each FCR e


hindi ba mhirap ipasok yan papa nelson? hahaha
pagmalaki mahirap ipasok - hihihih

unless magbanana plug
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:31 PM
I would suggest minimum #14. Flat cord lang ang gamit ko.
minsan kasi iba iba ang sukat ng wire.yung 16awg nagiging 14awg sa ibang tindahan.
basta hatiin mo na lang yung thumb finger mo pwede na yun.or yung mismong thump mo na lang ;D hahaha!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:36 PM
kabisado ung kaso ah hahaha

need ko lang naman ng 2-3m each FCR e


hindi ba mhirap ipasok yan papa nelson? hahaha
pagmalaki mahirap ipasok - hihihih

unless magbanana plug

Maski #12, pasok sa standard binding post or sa banana plug. pero dun sa spring loaded speaker terminal for front height/width ata or surround rear pasok ang #14. When you keep changing positions ng speaker, receiver or palit ka ng palit ng gears, ok ang banana plug. If not, parang sayang lang ang pera because once installed yun wires, Tagal na bago mo tanggalin. Or, unless the binding posts are difficult to reach, mag-banana plug ka.

minsan kasi iba iba ang sukat ng wire.yung 16awg nagiging 14awg sa ibang tindahan.
basta hatiin mo na lang yung thumb finger mo pwede na yun.or yung mismong thump mo na lang ;D hahaha!

Yes, kaya nga masmalaki ng 1 size ang advice ko to be sure. And i was referring to #14 na flat cord. Sa flat cord kasi, ilan ilan lang ang sub standard.  :D Sa speaker wires, nagkalat and sub standard.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Maski #12, pasok sa standard binding post or sa banana plug. pero dun sa spring loaded speaker terminal for front height/width ata or surround rear pasok ang #14. When you keep changing positions ng speaker, receiver or palit ka ng palit ng gears, ok ang banana plug. If not, parang sayang lang ang pera because once installed yun wires, Tagal na bago mo tanggalin. Or, unless the binding posts are difficult to reach, mag-banana plug ka.

Yes, kaya nga masmalaki ng 1 size ang advice ko to be sure. And i was referring to #14 na flat cord. Sa flat cord kasi, ilan ilan lang ang sub standard.  :D Sa speaker wires, nagkalat and sub standard.  ;)
tama ka dyan papi.
yung 16awg ko sakto lang sa banana plug ko.
@derick
follow papi nelson advice.mas may experience yan sa 16 pababa ;D
baka kasi iba yung talagang size na makuha mo sa tindahan.try mo sa baclaran maraming 16 pababa.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:43 PM
joko
hahaha
sa baclaran ka ba lage?
lolz

papa nelson saan ung route mo> just kidding...

sige sige

hirap lang talaga ipasok ung mga cable dun sa butas when the banana plugs were unscrew on the receiver it self

try ko tom. sa ace hardware

18 ung nabili ko sa DIY pero ok naman ung wires
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:44 PM
sige sige
16 pababa .. KIDS ba yan or Mosquito sa basketball? hehehe


oist may standyby option ba yan pio520 mo joko?


courage ... yup sa onkyo yellow e...

hmmm...hindi ko mapagana sa pio - meron syang passthrough pero nakaon ung receiver lol

sa avforums din hindi din nila ata mapagana ung feature na hdmi standby pass ng pio 1021k and 921k

Brader magpalit ka nang Yamaha at pagaganahin natin yung standby passthrough he he he
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:52 PM
tama ka dyan papi.
yung 16awg ko sakto lang sa banana plug ko.
@derick
follow papi nelson advice.mas may experience yan sa 16 pababa ;D
baka kasi iba yung talagang size na makuha mo sa tindahan.try mo sa baclaran maraming 16 pababa.

Loko. Maski may affidavit yan, lethal injection pa din yan.  ;D

joko
hahaha
sa baclaran ka ba lage?
lolz

papa nelson saan ung route mo> just kidding...

sige sige

hirap lang talaga ipasok ung mga cable dun sa butas when the banana plugs were unscrew on the receiver it self
try ko tom. sa ace hardware
18 ung nabili ko sa DIY pero ok naman ung wires

En route to a better relationship with God through Bible reading.  ;)

Kung mag-generic speaker wire ka na din lang and hindi ka marunong tumingin ng standard gauge, you should try flat cord. May mga branded flat cords din naman na very light sa pocket. Columbia wires, Phelps Dodge and the like. May polarity coding din. Either strip/striped on one side or the labels are printed sa isang side lang.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:54 PM
Brader magpalit ka nang Yamaha at pagaganahin natin yung standby passthrough he he he
kulam ka naman hahaha..



papa nelson ung nabili ko sa DIY  red and black na wires hehehe

anu pala ung DIALNORM ba un
upon decoding to DTS or Dobly lumalabas un e... naka +4 ata e
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:56 PM
kulam ka naman hahaha..



papa nelson ung nabili ko sa DIY  red and black na wires hehehe

anu pala ung DIALNORM ba un
upon decoding to DTS or Dobly lumalabas un e... naka +4 ata e


Pag DOlby brader saka lalabas yan..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Pag DOlby brader saka lalabas yan..

para saan ba yan
wala kasi sa onkyo ko dati?
naadjust ba yan?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 16, 2012 at 09:58 PM
para saan ba yan
wala kasi sa onkyo ko dati?
naadjust ba yan?

I dont think naaadjust yan.. i'm not sure though.. lagi na lang +4
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 16, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Loko. Maski may affidavit yan, lethal injection pa din yan.  ;D

En route to a better relationship with God through Bible reading.  ;)

kung wala magsusumbong walang makakasuhan.make sure mag eenjoy both party para walang papalag.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 16, 2012 at 10:03 PM
para saan ba yan
wala kasi sa onkyo ko dati?
naadjust ba yan?
that is for charity use my friend ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 16, 2012 at 10:28 PM

anu pala ung DIALNORM ba un
upon decoding to DTS or Dobly lumalabas un e... naka +4 ata e


This i'm so so sure. I think it has something to do with auto sound level adjustment. Kapag mahina ang source ng audio, masmalaki ang dial norm para mahabol sa reference spl. Again, i'm not sure.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 16, 2012 at 10:47 PM
I dont think naaadjust yan.. i'm not sure though.. lagi na lang +4

salamat akala ko kasi naadjust since may +4
salamat brader


joko@ minsan kahit wala pang nangyayari nagsusumbong na hahaha- peperahan ka
sasabihin nya ..madami pangupgrade to sa audio maperahan nga lolz

sir nelson thanks
any suggestion you have for these pio receiver that i have   - speaker setting etc

i just badly need the standby passthrough hope i can make it to work
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Apr 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM
salamat akala ko kasi naadjust since may +4
salamat brader


joko@ minsan kahit wala pang nangyayari nagsusumbong na hahaha- peperahan ka
sasabihin nya ..madami pangupgrade to sa audio maperahan nga lolz

sir nelson thanks
any suggestion you have for these pio receiver that i have   - speaker setting etc

i just badly need the standby passthrough hope i can make it to work


parang wala atang standby pass through and vsx 20 series. naka on siya pwede sa tv lang lumalabas yung audio, that's it.

gamitin mo na lang yung MACC para automatic settings na. then fine tune to personal taste and enjoy 8)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 17, 2012 at 12:23 AM
parang wala atang standby pass through and vsx 20 series. naka on siya pwede sa tv lang lumalabas yung audio, that's it.

gamitin mo na lang yung MACC para automatic settings na. then fine tune to personal taste and enjoy 8)
yup i just check na sa vsx 21series dapat meron pero saken wala hahah
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 17, 2012 at 12:32 AM
isa lang solusyon dyan brader derick..
HDMI spliter :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 17, 2012 at 12:34 AM
isa lang solusyon dyan brader derick..
HDMI spliter :D
hihihihi sayang un 1k plus din hahaha

sa ps3 lang naman e..
kapag nainis ako e sa optical ko nalang ikabit hahaha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 17, 2012 at 12:48 AM
hihihihi sayang un 1k plus din hahaha

sa ps3 lang naman e..
kapag nainis ako e sa optical ko nalang ikabit hahaha
good alternative.
ps3 games are not in lossless audio kaya ok lang gamit ka toslink
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 18, 2012 at 12:08 AM
anung size ng speaker wire maganda gamitin for the FCR?
saan pwede bumili

ung binili ko kasi e ung sa diy lang
para sa center ko ok naman
pero baka mas maganda pa sa iba

Aalm ko may extra pa ako sa wire ko try ko magnet di man lang umangat. Like mo ba check 16 gauge yun.  ;D ;D

Loko. Maski may affidavit yan, lethal injection pa din yan.  ;D

En route to a better relationship with God through Bible reading.  ;)

Kung mag-generic speaker wire ka na din lang and hindi ka marunong tumingin ng standard gauge, you should try flat cord. May mga branded flat cords din naman na very light sa pocket. Columbia wires, Phelps Dodge and the like. May polarity coding din. Either strip/striped on one side or the labels are printed sa isang side lang.

 Kahit sa marcos highway meron dun puwede natin daanan sa 21 ng gabi. ;D ;D


kulam ka naman hahaha..



papa nelson ung nabili ko sa DIY  red and black na wires hehehe

anu pala ung DIALNORM ba un
upon decoding to DTS or Dobly lumalabas un e... naka +4 ata e

Sino nangungulam?  ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 28, 2012 at 08:17 PM
mga papables pioneer user

sinu po naka POLK RTI A series sa inyo

how was it?
is it bright?
salamat po

nu pong mga speaker ang natry nyo na match with our pio

i have pio 1021 salamat

disclaimer:
bawal magpost YAMAHA users lol
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 28, 2012 at 08:29 PM
mga papables pioneer user

sinu po naka POLK RTI A series sa inyo

how was it?
is it bright?
salamat po

nu pong mga speaker ang natry nyo na match with our pio

i have pio 1021 salamat

disclaimer:
bawal magpost YAMAHA users lol

May auto calibration naman ang Pio mo. So you need not worry too much on brightness. Plus slightly rolled off ang upper highs ng most auto calibration. Unless you would tinker your DSP like what i did.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 28, 2012 at 08:39 PM
mga papables pioneer user

sinu po naka POLK RTI A series sa inyo

how was it?
is it bright?
salamat po

nu pong mga speaker ang natry nyo na match with our pio

i have pio 1021 salamat

disclaimer:
bawal magpost YAMAHA users lol

Saglit sa PIO ka nag post syempre PIO user ang sasagot sa iyo kasi regarding PIO ang tanung mo brader. Pero baka may mag post dito na naka yamaha sino kaya un? Plano mo yata mag RTI brader or naka RTI ka ng speaker?  ;D ;D

May auto calibration naman ang Pio mo. So you need not worry too much on brightness. Plus slightly rolled off ang upper highs ng most auto calibration. Unless you would tinker your DSP like what i did.  ;D

Ayun naman pala brader raider panalo ang PIO mo from master nelson.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 28, 2012 at 08:57 PM
May auto calibration naman ang Pio mo. So you need not worry too much on brightness. Plus slightly rolled off ang upper highs ng most auto calibration. Unless you would tinker your DSP like what i did.  ;D

thanks papa nelson
yup the auto mccacc did well upon running - ganda tumunog on my current set with wharf
but im addicted and want polkies hahaha

hahaha
Elmer
- just kidding lang un...alam ko naman na dadaan kayo ni nicholas dito sa thread...
muah muah muah....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 28, 2012 at 09:00 PM

Ayun naman pala brader raider panalo ang PIO mo from master nelson.  ;D ;D


Modelo yun kanya. Luma yun akin. he can copy the calibration settings sa isang memory, then pwede niyang galawin yun DSP settings. pwede din siyang gumawa ng sarili niya.

thanks papa nelson
yup the auto mccacc did well upon running - ganda tumunog on my current set with wharf
but im addicted and want polkies hahaha

hahaha
Elmer
- just kidding lang un...alam ko naman na dadaan kayo ni nicholas dito sa thread...
muah muah muah....


Honestly, masbagay for me ang polk sa Pio mo vs wharf. Though kayang kaya naman i-drive ng Pio mo ang Wharf. Compared to wharf, mas-"bakal" for me tumunog ang polk. Which is good for action scenes.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 28, 2012 at 09:07 PM
Modelo yun kanya. Luma yun akin. he can copy the calibration settings sa isang memory, then pwede niyang galawin yun DSP settings. pwede din siyang gumawa ng sarili niya.

Honestly, masbagay for me ang polk sa Pio mo vs wharf. Though kayang kaya naman i-drive ng Pio mo ang Wharf. Compared to wharf, mas-"bakal" for me tumunog ang polk. Which is good for action scenes.

yup gang 6 ung memory nya iba iba ung ginawa ko for movies and audio lalo na kung saan ako makikinig iibahin ko

ganda na din ng wharf but i want to try polkies
hilig ako sa polkies e hahaha

ung SUB ko na US AUdio
tumutunog pa din kahit direct or pure direct haha

isa lang kasi kabitan nya sa likod "LINE IN" ata wala siyang dalawang rca
mono out ba tawag dun?
mawawarak ung bahay pero astig - nakakagulat lalo na sa mga action scenes and biglaan expolosions

tama ba ginawa ko papa nelson
-SUB 150hz
-no phase control ung SUB e
-9 o clock lang kasi sobrang lakas
- 80hz sa receiver
any other settings?
dapat ba 80 lang din gawin ko sa knob ng sub?

kapag audio naman
switch ko lang sa stereo option nung sub sa likod dalawa kasi un 5.1 or stereo
mahina sya need ko i 12o'oclock pero ok pa din tumunog

pag nakaluwag na saka bibili ng psw111 or 125 hihihi
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 28, 2012 at 09:15 PM
yup gang 6 ung memory nya iba iba ung ginawa ko for movies and audio lalo na kung saan ako makikinig iibahin ko

ganda na din ng wharf but i want to try polkies
hilig ako sa polkies e hahaha

ung SUB ko na US AUdio
tumutunog pa din kahit direct or pure direct haha

isa lang kasi kabitan nya sa likod "LINE IN" ata wala siyang dalawang rca
mono out ba tawag dun?
mawawarak ung bahay pero astig - nakakagulat lalo na sa mga action scenes and biglaan expolosions

tama ba ginawa ko papa nelson
-SUB 150hz
-no phase control ung SUB e
-9 o clock lang kasi sobrang lakas
- 80hz sa receiver
any other settings?
dapat ba 80 lang din gawin ko sa knob ng sub?

kapag audio naman
switch ko lang sa stereo option nung sub sa likod dalawa kasi un 5.1 or stereo
mahina sya need ko i 12o'oclock pero ok pa din tumunog

pag nakaluwag na saka bibili ng psw111 or 125 hihihi

brader derick kahit naka 150 setting ang sub mo kung 80 naman xover ng avr.from 80hz below ang ibabato nya sa avr mo.81hz freq up cut off na.ang bato nyan sa ibang speaker naman like fronts
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 28, 2012 at 09:23 PM
brader derick kahit naka 150 setting ang sub mo kung 80 naman xover ng avr.from 80hz below ang ibabato nya sa avr mo.81hz freq up cut off na.ang bato nyan sa ibang speaker naman like fronts

salamat
paano ko ba malalaman kung tama ung freq na binabato hahaha
small ko ung fronts and center e

kasi sa mcacc large e
tapos ung SUB - pag yes minsan wala lumalabas
set ko sya sa plus - mas madaming bass hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 28, 2012 at 09:42 PM
salamat
paano ko ba malalaman kung tama ung freq na binabato hahaha
small ko ung fronts and center e

kasi sa mcacc large e
tapos ung SUB - pag yes minsan wala lumalabas
set ko sya sa plus - mas madaming bass hehehe


Dapat naka small ka lang sa MCACC kung hindi capable ang fronts mo magreproduce ng maayos below 60 hz.
And kapag nakikinig ka ng music, walang lumalabas tama? If tama, because naka-set sa large ang speakers mo. I would sugggest gamitin mo yun plus option ng sub when listening to music kapag naka-set ka ng large sa speakers. Naka-large din kasi ako sa speaker setting. Pero kasi malalaki ang mga DIY speakers ko.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 28, 2012 at 09:45 PM
salamat
paano ko ba malalaman kung tama ung freq na binabato hahaha
small ko ung fronts and center e

kasi sa mcacc large e
tapos ung SUB - pag yes minsan wala lumalabas
set ko sya sa plus - mas madaming bass hehehe


Dalhin mo Pio mo sa bahay... Dala ka din Andoks at Coke 1.5 ha ha ha.. Sagot ko na kanin he he he
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 28, 2012 at 09:52 PM
Dalhin mo Pio mo sa bahay... Dala ka din Andoks at Coke 1.5 ha ha ha.. Sagot ko na kanin he he he
ako na bahala sa kwento ;) as always..haha!;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 28, 2012 at 11:18 PM
thanks papa nelson
yup the auto mccacc did well upon running - ganda tumunog on my current set with wharf
but im addicted and want polkies hahaha

hahaha
Elmer
- just kidding lang un...alam ko naman na dadaan kayo ni nicholas dito sa thread...
muah muah muah....

Damage has been done di na puwede bawiin.  ;D ;D ;D

Dalhin mo Pio mo sa bahay... Dala ka din Andoks at Coke 1.5 ha ha ha.. Sagot ko na kanin he he he

Sama ako pero dagdagn mo ng lydias lechon yung andok's sagot ko na yung movie.  ;D ;D ;D

ako na bahala sa kwento ;) as always..haha!;D

Siguraduhin mo na madami ka baon na kwento wag lang ung kwentong barbero.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM
Damage has been done di na puwede bawiin.  ;D ;D ;D

Sama ako pero dagdagn mo ng lydias lechon yung andok's sagot ko na yung movie.  ;D ;D ;D

Siguraduhin mo na madami ka baon na kwento wag lang ung kwentong barbero.  ;D ;D
marami ako baon hindi lang kwentong barbero,
pati kwentong kutsero meron din ;D
isama ko na din yung mismong barbero at kutsero
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Apr 29, 2012 at 04:47 AM
bawal magpost YAMAHA users lol

Aray :o

I also tried our Pio with Wharfedales.  The Wharfs were rather reserved for me. 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 29, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Dalhin mo Pio mo sa bahay... Dala ka din Andoks at Coke 1.5 ha ha ha.. Sagot ko na kanin he he he

pwede...hirap lang bitbitin wala kasi me auto lolz
motor dalawa nyahaha...

son kapag maluwag sked for sure puntahan ka namin dyan ng weekends
latagaan natin ng mga action scenes - hihihihi

@lncc63
papa luis anu po ung reserved kindly enlighten the newbie
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Apr 29, 2012 at 01:19 PM
Dapat naka small ka lang sa MCACC kung hindi capable ang fronts mo magreproduce ng maayos below 60 hz.
And kapag nakikinig ka ng music, walang lumalabas tama? If tama, because naka-set sa large ang speakers mo. I would sugggest gamitin mo yun plus option ng sub when listening to music kapag naka-set ka ng large sa speakers. Naka-large din kasi ako sa speaker setting. Pero kasi malalaki ang mga DIY speakers ko.
e kasi naman fronts mo pa lang sub na namin
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 29, 2012 at 01:21 PM
Dapat naka small ka lang sa MCACC kung hindi capable ang fronts mo magreproduce ng maayos below 60 hz.
And kapag nakikinig ka ng music, walang lumalabas tama? If tama, because naka-set sa large ang speakers mo. I would sugggest gamitin mo yun plus option ng sub when listening to music kapag naka-set ka ng large sa speakers. Naka-large din kasi ako sa speaker setting. Pero kasi malalaki ang mga DIY speakers ko.

try ko ulit later

ung mcacc nagassign sa 9.1 na maging large...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 29, 2012 at 03:05 PM
e kasi naman fronts mo pa lang sub na namin

Loko. Enclosure lang nagdala dun. ikaw nga, bawa't speaker mo may sub eh.  :P

try ko ulit later

ung mcacc nagassign sa 9.1 na maging large...

You can revert it back kung gusto mo. Pros and cons kasi ang setting sa large and small.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 29, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Loko. Enclosure lang nagdala dun. ikaw nga, bawa't speaker mo may sub eh.  :P

You can revert it back kung gusto mo. Pros and cons kasi ang setting sa large and small.

yup pagnagmusic ako large kasi hindi ako gumagamit ng sub
pagmovie i set it to small

salamat papa nelson

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 29, 2012 at 03:17 PM
yup pagnagmusic ako large kasi hindi ako gumagamit ng sub
pagmovie i set it to small

salamat papa nelson



Kapag naka-set ka sa sub=yes and naka-set ang speakers to large, wala talagang lalabas na signal sa sub mo since the AVR knows na kaya ng speakers mo ang lows. Tapos ang information/data/encoding ng music (eg flac files) is 2 channel only (walang sub channel unlike 5.1 data). Pero kapag naka-set sa large ang speakers mo, pwede mong i-set sa sub=plus. Meaning, yun mga low freq signals from your speakers, dinadagdag (plus) pa sa sub.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 29, 2012 at 03:23 PM
Kapag naka-set ka sa sub=yes and naka-set ang speakers to large, wala talagang lalabas na signal sa sub mo since the AVR knows na kaya ng speakers mo ang lows. Tapos ang information/data/encoding ng music (eg flac files) is 2 channel only (walang sub channel unlike 5.1 data). Pero kapag naka-set sa large ang speakers mo, pwede mong i-set sa sub=plus. Meaning, yun mga low freq signals from your speakers, dinadagdag (plus) pa sa sub.
gets ko na kaya pala may sub kapag nakaplus sya while speaker setting was large thanks for the info
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 29, 2012 at 04:48 PM
gets ko na kaya pala may sub kapag nakaplus sya while speaker setting was large thanks for the info

Magbasa kasi nang manual, puro Market Place kasi inaatupag eh he he he
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 29, 2012 at 05:25 PM
Magbasa kasi nang manual, puro Market Place kasi inaatupag eh he he he
hahaha....
ako nanaman nakita mo hehehe..

ginugulo ko lang mga pioneer users ng mabuhay...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lncc63 on Apr 29, 2012 at 06:36 PM
papa luis anu po ung reserved kindly enlighten the newbie

RTi A3
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 29, 2012 at 06:55 PM
Magbasa kasi nang manual, puro Market Place kasi inaatupag eh he he he

hahaha....
ako nanaman nakita mo hehehe..

ginugulo ko lang mga pioneer users ng mabuhay...

Ou nga naman wag bili ng bili tapos mag tatanung lang ng settings. Habang nag mamarket ka mag basa ka ng manual at intindihin.  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 29, 2012 at 07:01 PM
RTi A3

maganda nga to...hahaha


- elmer(xrampage)

matulog ka na pagising andyan na ang pj at yamaha a2010 mo haha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Apr 29, 2012 at 07:09 PM
hahaha....
ako nanaman nakita mo hehehe..

ginugulo ko lang mga pioneer users ng mabuhay...

Magbasa kasi nang manual, puro Market Place kasi inaatupag eh he he he
na carried away lang ;D
naguguluhan sa settings tapos bantay pa sa palengke at iniisip si elite.
nakakabaliw yan pre.ingat lang :D :D :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 29, 2012 at 07:15 PM
maganda nga to...hahaha


- elmer(xrampage)

matulog ka na pagising andyan na ang pj at yamaha a2010 mo haha

Mahirap un brader mahabang tulugan need ko din mag work para may pambayad ng shipping.  ;D ;D

na carried away lang ;D
naguguluhan sa settings tapos bantay pa sa palengke at iniisip si elite.
nakakabaliw yan pre.ingat lang :D :D :D

Aba aba may taga pag tanggol ang isang tao jan.  :P :P
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 29, 2012 at 07:17 PM
 ;D  ;D  ;D

witches with the same feather flock together...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Apr 30, 2012 at 02:07 AM
RTi A3

Ayan na si Brader Louie he he he.....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on May 01, 2012 at 05:01 AM
;D  ;D  ;D

witches with the same feather flock together...
witches with same broom stick is mmda employee ;D
shifting lang sila :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 01, 2012 at 05:07 AM
witches with same broom stick is mmda employee ;D
shifting lang sila :D

hehehe....di pa ako nakaktulog inayos ko ung mga speaker cable hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on May 01, 2012 at 05:19 AM
hehehe....di pa ako nakaktulog inayos ko ung mga speaker cable hehehe
anun talaga pag may bago ;D
magpahinga ka na.im sure lumulutang na yang ulo mo....(sa bab*)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 01, 2012 at 06:41 AM
witches with same broom stick is mmda employee ;D
shifting lang sila :D

Your one of them brader.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on May 01, 2012 at 06:50 AM
Your one of them brader.  ;D ;D
and so are you :P
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 01, 2012 at 07:31 AM
and so are you :P
 :D :D :D

Isa lang akong nakulam salimpusa kumbaga.   :P :P :P
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 01, 2012 at 04:26 PM
hehehe....di pa ako nakaktulog inayos ko ung mga speaker cable hehehe

Habang nag aayos nang cable naka display ang pinoydvd market place sa malaking screen kasi baka may lumabas na magandang deal...

Aba aba aba.. baka magkasakit ka nyan ha ha ha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 01, 2012 at 04:28 PM
Habang nag aayos nang cable naka display ang pinoydvd market place sa malaking screen kasi baka may lumabas na magandang deal...

Aba aba aba.. baka magkasakit ka nyan ha ha ha

ako nanaman nakita haha...

ako nga ang seller ngayon e hahaha

kelan ko kaya madadala ung pio sa inyo na marinig ko sya with polk audio
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 01, 2012 at 04:35 PM
ako nanaman nakita haha...

ako nga ang seller ngayon e hahaha

kelan ko kaya madadala ung pio sa inyo na marinig ko sya with polk audio

Text kita kung kelan ako available...

Maganda yun Shoot out nang Pio at Yamaha sa Polk Audio...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 01, 2012 at 04:49 PM
Text kita kung kelan ako available...

Maganda yun Shoot out nang Pio at Yamaha sa Polk Audio...
available kasi ako tom. and the next day
pero wala naman me auto
basta sa available day mo nalang
or baka makuha ko na ung polk sa sobrang kati lolz
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 01, 2012 at 05:14 PM
hehehe....di pa ako nakaktulog inayos ko ung mga speaker cable hehehe

Haha yung speaker wire mo na bakal?  ;D ;D

Habang nag aayos nang cable naka display ang pinoydvd market place sa malaking screen kasi baka may lumabas na magandang deal...

Aba aba aba.. baka magkasakit ka nyan ha ha ha

Mali ka brader baka di na magamot ang sakit at lumala pa lalo.  ;D ;D
Text kita kung kelan ako available...

Maganda yun Shoot out nang Pio at Yamaha sa Polk Audio...

Like mo brader sa 13 sunday sa 9 na dating ng PJ and yamaha ko.  ;D ;D

available kasi ako tom. and the next day
pero wala naman me auto
basta sa available day mo nalang
or baka makuha ko na ung polk sa sobrang kati lolz

Sobrang kati talaga.  ;D ;D

Text kita kung kelan ako available...

Maganda yun Shoot out nang Pio at Yamaha sa Polk Audio...

Maganda talaga yan lalo na ang ichallenge RX-A2010.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 01, 2012 at 05:16 PM
available kasi ako tom. and the next day
pero wala naman me auto
basta sa available day mo nalang
or baka makuha ko na ung polk sa sobrang kati lolz

Kunin mo na kasi... Di ka mag sisisi sa tunog nang Polk brader....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 01, 2012 at 05:25 PM
Kunin mo na kasi... Di ka mag sisisi sa tunog nang Polk brader....

hintay ko lang mabenta ung 10cs ko and 9.1

mas maliit at ung a6 kesa sa 10cm
un gusto kung center kung sakali ..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 01, 2012 at 05:27 PM
Kunin mo na kasi... Di ka mag sisisi sa tunog nang Polk brader....

Pang audio ba yan? Kung ako sa iyo brader check mo muna ung KEF na full range Q600 ata yun model panalo sa audio nademo na namin ni joko.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 01, 2012 at 06:07 PM
Pang audio ba yan? Kung ako sa iyo brader check mo muna ung KEF na full range Q600 ata yun model panalo sa audio nademo na namin ni joko.  ;D ;D

anak ng putakte ung bookshelf na q300 ba un ginto na e..ayan pa kaya...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 01, 2012 at 06:17 PM
anak ng putakte ung bookshelf na q300 ba un ginto na e..ayan pa kaya...

Haha hindi naman mura lang alam ko nasa 20k+ lang tapos 25% discount pa ang SRP pag cash basis ka.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on May 01, 2012 at 08:05 PM
Haha hindi naman mura lang alam ko nasa 20k+ lang tapos 25% discount pa ang SRP pag cash basis ka.  ;D ;D
wala naman mura sayo brader elm.
sa kagaya namin ni derick ang mura e yung sasabihin ni esmi ;D
put@/6 i/@ yan ano na naman yang binili mo!?
mapuputulan na tyo ng kuryente!!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 01, 2012 at 08:59 PM
wala naman mura sayo brader elm.
sa kagaya namin ni derick ang mura e yung sasabihin ni esmi ;D
put@/6 i/@ yan ano na naman yang binili mo!?
mapuputulan na tyo ng kuryente!!!

Hindi naman lols.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on May 01, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Pang audio ba yan? Kung ako sa iyo brader check mo muna ung KEF na full range Q600 ata yun model panalo sa audio nademo na namin ni joko.  ;D ;D

Polk LSiM sinasabi ko ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 02, 2012 at 04:16 AM
Polk LSiM sinasabi ko ha ha ha ha

Lols high end din na KEF na full range para masaya.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jun 19, 2012 at 02:31 PM
Mga bossing, okay po ba talaga yung Pioneer VSX-1021-K? Based on reviews sa internet, mataas yung ratings.

Gusto ko malaman ang inyong opinion dito. Thanks po.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 19, 2012 at 02:33 PM
pairing pa din yan

receiver and speaker

bumili ka muna ng receiver kahit anu pa yan then dalhin mo sa mga shop for audition

maganda talaga ang pioneer 1021

just sold mine yesterday

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 19, 2012 at 05:06 PM
pairing pa din yan

receiver and speaker

bumili ka muna ng receiver kahit anu pa yan then dalhin mo sa mga shop for audition

maganda talaga ang pioneer 1021

just sold mine yesterday


Di ba parang ironic ata.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jun 19, 2012 at 07:04 PM
Di ba parang ironic ata.  ;D
ayaw ni derick ng maganda. mas maganda ang gusto...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jun 19, 2012 at 07:16 PM
Di ba parang ironic ata.  ;D

He he he natawa ako dito ah he he he
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 19, 2012 at 08:06 PM
sorry hahaha....

kasi ung nagiinquire lage ko nalang nakikita na pwede ba iship sa cebu ung items

puro ganung lang nababasa ko hahaha

so ah mean ko lang is bumili ang naginquire ng kahit anung receiver saka maghanap ng speaker

- naibanat ko lang sa huli na maganda ang pio

nagiisip ko to get the same model if budget permits medyo nag aaudio lang ako ngayon
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: toys4geeks on Jun 19, 2012 at 08:17 PM
ano ba talaga? maganda ang Pioneer, binenta mo naman  ;D

kahit alam ko ang backstory mo, natawa pa din ako.

Galing ni master nelson talaga sa timing at hirit.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jun 19, 2012 at 08:21 PM
Hahaha. Pasensya na po. Medyo gipit pa kasi. Inquire pa lang ako ng inquire to get the BEST "bang-for-my-buck" receiver. :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 19, 2012 at 08:23 PM
ano ba talaga? maganda ang Pioneer, binenta mo naman  ;D

kahit alam ko ang backstory mo, natawa pa din ako.

Galing ni master nelson talaga sa timing at hirit.

maganda talaga ung pioneer papa JIM
the reason i sell that was beacuse i was trying to get rti a7

i was hooked up with audio at the moment kaya ko lang naisipang ipost
nagtry lang ako for one week and someone bought it kung wala i will withdraw it naman

ngayon nga namimiss ko na lalo na ung airplay
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 19, 2012 at 08:25 PM
Hahaha. Pasensya na po. Medyo gipit pa kasi. Inquire pa lang ako ng inquire to get the BEST "bang-for-my-buck" receiver. :D

Much better brader if you ready the money
Maraming good buy  sa MP and once you see it don’t hesitate to get it

Eto ung masarap sa PDVD ung unahan sa goodbuy nakakathrill kasi for me..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jun 19, 2012 at 08:31 PM
hahaha!natawa din ako sa hirit ni papa nelson.
malay natin baka binenta yung 1020 to get the elite ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 19, 2012 at 08:45 PM
hahaha!natawa din ako sa hirit ni papa nelson.
malay natin baka binenta yung 1020 to get the elite ;)

hahaha 1021 un joko hehehe

kung wala lang ako toyo sayo ko na binenta un kahit gives hihihihi

eto parang gusto ko ROTEL? hahaha
ROTEL and B&W ? hahaha

sorry pioneer thread pala to


my wife misses the pio 1021 so much hahaha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jun 19, 2012 at 08:50 PM
hahaha 1021 un joko hehehe

kung wala lang ako toyo sayo ko na binenta un kahit gives hihihihi

eto parang gusto ko ROTEL? hahaha
ROTEL and B&W ? hahaha

sorry pioneer thread pala to


my wife misses the pio 1021 so much hahaha
uu nga pala 1021 yun.tsuri tsuri..
Wag ka mag rotel panget yun.
ang pumalag sa rotel thread umangal ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jun 19, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Pasensya na po talaga mga sir.. Super noob pa kasi ako pag dating sa audio and video eh. Hehehe. Gusto ko lang maka sigurado kasi limited pa budget ko. Hehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 20, 2012 at 12:16 AM
Pasensya na po talaga mga sir.. Super noob pa kasi ako pag dating sa audio and video eh. Hehehe. Gusto ko lang maka sigurado kasi limited pa budget ko. Hehe

oks lang brader lahat naman tayo e may budget for certain item

how much ba budget mo sa receiver so we can suggest
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 20, 2012 at 12:43 AM
oks lang brader lahat naman tayo e may budget for certain item

how much ba budget mo sa receiver so we can suggest

Bibili na ulet ng pio yan ang pio na bibilhin ung elite kaya niya benta yung existing pio niya. Silent but deadly si brader  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 20, 2012 at 06:08 AM
Bibili na ulet ng pio yan ang pio na bibilhin ung elite kaya niya benta yung existing pio niya. Silent but deadly si brader  ;D ;D

Magaganda naman talaga ang elite. Very beefy ang amp section niya. Busog na busog ang speakers sa Elite.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Billabong on Jun 20, 2012 at 08:20 AM
Pioneer Elite SC-68

(http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/PUSA/Images/Product%20Images/Home/SC-68_large.jpg)

Prepare yourself for the startlingly realistic impact of the new Pioneer Elite SC-68 A/V receiver. Delivering the next level of quality audio and video performance, the SC-68 arrives with the truest, most realistic fidelity for your home entertainment experience. Incorporating revolutionary features like THX Ultra 2 Plus certification and advanced network connectivity, the SC-68 has been designed for those who settle for nothing less than the very best in audio and video. Its state-of-the-art performance and specifications are the result of uncompromising standards of engineering, manufacturing and testing.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Elite+Receivers/SC-68

Yan ang bagay sa system mo master! ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 20, 2012 at 09:17 AM
Magaganda naman talaga ang elite. Very beefy ang amp section niya. Busog na busog ang speakers sa Elite.

I agree but to pricey for me lalo na yung mga Class D nila. .  ;) ;)

Pioneer Elite SC-68

(http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/PUSA/Images/Product%20Images/Home/SC-68_large.jpg)

Prepare yourself for the startlingly realistic impact of the new Pioneer Elite SC-68 A/V receiver. Delivering the next level of quality audio and video performance, the SC-68 arrives with the truest, most realistic fidelity for your home entertainment experience. Incorporating revolutionary features like THX Ultra 2 Plus certification and advanced network connectivity, the SC-68 has been designed for those who settle for nothing less than the very best in audio and video. Its state-of-the-art performance and specifications are the result of uncompromising standards of engineering, manufacturing and testing.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Elite+Receivers/SC-68

Yan ang bagay sa system mo master! ;)

How much kaya itong padating ng new elite ng pio. Yung Class D kasi less 2k USD yung isa yung isa naman 2k+ USD.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 20, 2012 at 11:31 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Elite-Sc-55-9-1-channel-Receiver/dp/B005JJBFJW/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1340167780&sr=1-3&keywords=pioneer+elite

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Elite-Vsx-53-Network-Receiver/dp/B005E1HWN8/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1340167780&sr=1-2&keywords=pioneer+elite

Mukhang presyong local lang...  ;D

Go go na raider!!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Billabong on Jun 20, 2012 at 11:48 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Elite-Sc-55-9-1-channel-Receiver/dp/B005JJBFJW/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1340167780&sr=1-3&keywords=pioneer+elite

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Elite-Vsx-53-Network-Receiver/dp/B005E1HWN8/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1340167780&sr=1-2&keywords=pioneer+elite

Mukhang presyong local lang...  ;D

Go go na raider!!!

Available ba ito locally and same price with Amazon? Saan?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jun 20, 2012 at 02:27 PM
Available ba ito locally and same price with Amazon? Saan?

Mukhang mag-11.1 ka na ah. :) Neo X na yan!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 20, 2012 at 02:54 PM
Available ba ito locally and same price with Amazon? Saan?

Di ko alam kung may elite dito...  ;D PM ko si TMans.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 20, 2012 at 03:03 PM
wow sarap magelite hehehe....
in my dreams hahaha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 20, 2012 at 04:59 PM
wow sarap magelite hehehe....
in my dreams hahaha

Yan ang bagay sa iyo.  ;) Kita mo pa yun EQ settings ng calibration niya so you can tinker with it, then save mo sa ibang memory. Busog maski floorstander mo.  :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jun 20, 2012 at 05:07 PM
wow sarap magelite hehehe....
in my dreams hahaha

Go go go brader.... ELITE NA....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jun 20, 2012 at 05:37 PM
Available ba ito locally and same price with Amazon? Saan?
Available sir yung vsx-53 sa listening room. naka sale ngayon dun 43k. look for tboy.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 20, 2012 at 06:49 PM
Mukhang mag-11.1 ka na ah. :) Neo X na yan!

Grabe! 140w X 9 channels of class D3 ng Pio. Kayang kaya na ang center and surrounds speaker ni master Paul. May space pa naman siya for front height and wide.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Jun 20, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Available sir yung vsx-53 sa listening room. naka sale ngayon dun 43k. look for tboy.

I was able to hear this sa listening room...And this is a really nice Receiver...Connected sya sa A7 Polk when i heard it... I was actually testing my sub at that time...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 20, 2012 at 08:19 PM
I was able to hear this sa listening room...And this is a really nice Receiver...Connected sya sa A7 Polk when i heard it... I was actually testing my sub at that time...
a7 ? pwede din ba a9? hahaha


Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jun 20, 2012 at 09:11 PM
a7 ? pwede din ba a9? hahaha



50-500w ang specs ni A9
pero kaya na yan ng pio elite with 140w
tapos bi-amp mo pa
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 21, 2012 at 10:58 PM
Mas trip ko pa din yung Class D ng PIO. Pangarap ko yan na receiver.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jun 22, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Eto ata katumbas ng Elite dito satin...

Pioneer SC-LX-85 :o
(http://www.unilet.net/images/promo/Pioneer/Pioneer%20SC-LX85%20AV%20Receiver.jpg)


Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 22, 2012 at 12:28 PM
Eto ata katumbas ng Elite dito satin...

Pioneer SC-LX-85 :o
(http://www.unilet.net/images/promo/Pioneer/Pioneer%20SC-LX85%20AV%20Receiver.jpg)




Panigurado ginto presyo niyan.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jun 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Panigurado ginto presyo niyan.  ;) ;)

Depende sa ginto brader...
Kapresyo ito malamang ng A2010 mo na presyong diamond...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 22, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Depende sa ginto brader...
Kapresyo ito malamang ng A2010 mo na presyong diamond...

Hindi ah ang 2010 ko presyong silver malamang yan presyong 80k.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jun 22, 2012 at 08:27 PM
Hindi ah ang 2010 ko presyong silver malamang yan presyong 80k.  ;) ;)
silver na nakukuha lang sa planetang mars?
you need NASA assistance pa to get just .01 gram?
wahihi :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Jun 27, 2012 at 11:35 AM
good day mga sir...

newbie here on pdvd, zero knowledge din pagdating sa HT setup.

Question about Pioneer vsx 521;

Can it drive Polk Audio TSI series?

Plan ko magbuo paunti unti, I'll start sana sa Pio 521 as my AVR, then 2.0 muna starting with TSI 300.

To follow:

PSW110 - sub

CS10 - center

TSi 100 - surround

Can these speakers be driven by 521.

Thank you in advance :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jun 27, 2012 at 11:47 AM
good day mga sir...

newbie here on pdvd, zero knowledge din pagdating sa HT setup.

Question about Pioneer vsx 521;

Can it drive Polk Audio TSI series?

Plan ko magbuo paunti unti, I'll start sana sa Pio 521 as my AVR, then 2.0 muna starting with TSI 300.

To follow:

PSW110 - sub

CS10 - center

TSi 100 - surround

Can these speakers be driven by 521.

Thank you in advance :)

I think kaya yan.
TSi series are easy to drive naman.

My Onkyo 506 before could drive my 2 pairs TSi100 and CS10 with ease... ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Jun 27, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Thank you sir.

Wala din ako alam pagdating sa matching ng AVR's to Speakers.

Ano ba basic na tinitingnan? Ano ba yung ohms and watts?

Thank you
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jun 28, 2012 at 06:49 AM
Hi! I'm back! I just got a 1021-K.. So far so good. Mag e-explore pa lang ako hehehe.

I have some questions mga master since this is my FIRST AV Receiver.

***Normal lang ba ang Clicking sound when I switch to some audio modes and/or selecting inputs?
***Sa Airplay, na connect ko na sa Home network using Ethernet cable. Turned ON Sharing in iTunes, endabled DHCP. I can now control my Receiver using iControlAV.

My problem is, kung mag music ako directly from iPhone, wala akong makitang AIRPLAY Icon...

Please help po mga master.. Thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 28, 2012 at 06:52 AM
Hi! I'm back! I just got a 1021-K.. So far so good. Mag e-explore pa lang ako hehehe.

I have some questions mga master since this is my FIRST AV Receiver.

***Normal lang ba ang Clicking sound when I switch to some audio modes and/or selecting inputs?
***Sa Airplay, na connect ko na sa Home network using Ethernet cable. Turned ON Sharing in iTunes, endabled DHCP. I can now control my Receiver using iControlAV.

My problem is, kung mag music ako directly from iPhone, wala akong makitang AIRPLAY Icon...

Please help po mga master.. Thanks!

congrats brader
di ka magsisi dyan
normal lang ung click na mahina as it changes modes

regrding iphone - wala kasi me iphone e
s ITUNES wala kaba nkikitang airply icon?

try mo iconnected wirelessly ung iphone s network mo then open mo ulit itunes ng iphone
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jun 28, 2012 at 08:55 AM
congrats brader
di ka magsisi dyan
normal lang ung click na mahina as it changes modes

regrding iphone - wala kasi me iphone e
s ITUNES wala kaba nkikitang airply icon?

try mo iconnected wirelessly ung iphone s network mo then open mo ulit itunes ng iphone


Thanks sir...

Sa iTunes ko rin wala akong makitang Airplay icon. Pero sa Network status sa Receiver, makikita lahat. IP address, etc.. Connected yung iPhone ko sa home network thru wifi..

Sa connections sir, direct nyo ba sa TV ang SkyCable digibox or sa Receiver?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 28, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Thanks sir...

Sa iTunes ko rin wala akong makitang Airplay icon. Pero sa Network status sa Receiver, makikita lahat. IP address, etc.. Connected yung iPhone ko sa home network thru wifi..

Sa connections sir, direct nyo ba sa TV ang SkyCable digibox or sa Receiver?

heres my setup before

Pio 1021 connected via LAN to my home network
i have laptop na ninakaw na haha

i just need to connect my laptop wirelessly then open itunes then all i need to do is play music

iconfigure mo static IP sa pio1021


iconfigure mo din at max -10db or 0db ung pio mo once kasi naexperience ko biglang nagfull ung volume ng pio nung nagconnect ako sa airplay
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: reybossing on Jun 28, 2012 at 05:41 PM
ano ba yun support 3d sa avr..pag ang tv ninyo hindi 3d it means ba na puede na 3d movies using the avr eventhough hindi naka 3d ang tv...helpppp.thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jun 28, 2012 at 07:05 PM
ano ba yun support 3d sa avr..pag ang tv ninyo hindi 3d it means ba na puede na 3d movies using the avr eventhough hindi naka 3d ang tv...helpppp.thanks

nope. you need a 3d capable display and a 3d capable source
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: DTNS on Jun 30, 2012 at 08:58 PM
@all

maganda ba ang Pioneer VSX-921?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jun 30, 2012 at 11:49 PM
@all

maganda ba ang Pioneer VSX-921?

I think it depends on your needs bro. Btw, are you from Cebu? Familiar yung name from another forum site. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jul 01, 2012 at 04:10 AM
I think it depends on your needs bro. Btw, are you from Cebu? Familiar yung name from another forum site. :)
redtube ???
 :D :D :D :D :D :D
juke unly ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jul 01, 2012 at 05:12 AM
kaw talaga jok-o puro ka jok-e
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 01, 2012 at 05:48 AM
@all

maganda ba ang Pioneer VSX-921?

Sir, pioneer receiver thread ito so normally, for us pioneer users, maganda ang products ng pioneer.  :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jul 01, 2012 at 06:09 AM
Sir, pioneer receiver thread ito so normally, for us pioneer users, maganda ang products ng pioneer.  :D
pero 'di kasing-ganda ng pioneer mo, elite sc-68.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 01, 2012 at 10:55 AM
pero 'di kasing-ganda ng pioneer mo, elite sc-68.

naka ELITE kana papa nelson?
asan na ung 1020?

921 is somehow similar wiht 1021 for sure it will be a nice receiver
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: DTNS on Jul 01, 2012 at 11:15 AM
I think it depends on your needs bro. Btw, are you from Cebu? Familiar yung name from another forum site. :)

nope. I'm not from Cebu. :)  but yes, I do use this handle in another forum site. ;)

btw, nasa radar ko na rin tong 921. balak kong avr na kunin: either mid-range HK or Onkyo avr. pero mas mura tong pioneer. kaya...  ::)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 01, 2012 at 11:17 AM
nope. I'm not from Cebu. :)  but yes, I do use this handle in another forum site. ;)

btw, nasa radar ko na rin tong 921. balak kong avr na kunin: either mid-range HK or Onkyo avr. pero mas mura tong pioneer. kaya...  ::)

go for 1021 na brader....

top 2 or 3 midrange receiver
eto lang naman nagaaway dyan

onkyo 609 ..pio 1021...denon 1912
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: DTNS on Jul 01, 2012 at 11:23 AM
go for 1021 na brader....

top 2 or 3 midrange receiver
eto lang naman nagaaway dyan

onkyo 609 ..pio 1021...denon 1912

choices ko ngayon: HK AVR 265, Onkyo 609. add ko pa sa list ko: Pioneer 1021.  :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 01, 2012 at 11:26 AM
choices ko ngayon: HK AVR 265, Onkyo 609. add ko pa sa list ko: Pioneer 1021.  :D
denon 1912 is mostly the top rated avr
hehe

either of the three avr i provided will be a good choice

forget about the HK hihihi
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 01, 2012 at 12:11 PM
nope. I'm not from Cebu. :)  but yes, I do use this handle in another forum site. ;)

btw, nasa radar ko na rin tong 921. balak kong avr na kunin: either mid-range HK or Onkyo avr. pero mas mura tong pioneer. kaya...  ::)


Ohh I see.. Mayron ka rin ba account sa iSTORYA.net? Hehe.

Add mo na rin yung Yamaha bro.
Here's CNET's top AV Receivers in 2011. I just got my Pioneer VSX-1021-K last week.

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-av-receivers/
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 01, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Ohh I see.. Mayron ka rin ba account sa iSTORYA.net? Hehe.

Add mo na rin yung Yamaha bro.
Here's CNET's top AV Receivers in 2011. I just got my Pioneer VSX-1021-K last week.

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-av-receivers/

anu napagana mo na ung airplay?
sa wathifi onkyo 609 ung top
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jul 01, 2012 at 12:32 PM
anu napagana mo na ung airplay?
sa wathifi onkyo 609 ung top

watt-hifi, silent endorser  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 01, 2012 at 12:34 PM
watt-hifi, silent endorser  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

uu...pansin ko din
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 01, 2012 at 12:47 PM
anu napagana mo na ung airplay?
sa wathifi onkyo 609 ung top


Try ko pa later bro when I get home. Sobrang busy sa work. Hehehe.

Problema ko ngayon yung wires sa likod. :(
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 01, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Try ko pa later bro when I get home. Sobrang busy sa work. Hehehe.

Problema ko ngayon yung wires sa likod. :(

buy banana plugs
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 01, 2012 at 12:53 PM
buy banana plugs

Yup... I'm using banana plugs for the receiver terminal and bare wires for the speakers. Yung problema ko is paano ko ma organize yung wires (TV, speakers, hdmi, power cords, etc.). Napaka gulo sa likod. Hahaha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: DTNS on Jul 01, 2012 at 01:34 PM

Ohh I see.. Mayron ka rin ba account sa iSTORYA.net? Hehe.

Add mo na rin yung Yamaha bro.
Here's CNET's top AV Receivers in 2011. I just got my Pioneer VSX-1021-K last week.

http://reviews.cnet.com/best-av-receivers/

haha! wala akong account sa istorya.net.  :D 

sa yamaha, either 671 o 667 ang target ko.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 01, 2012 at 01:54 PM
pero 'di kasing-ganda ng pioneer mo, elite sc-68.

Loko. Wala ako nun.

naka ELITE kana papa nelson?
asan na ung 1020?

921 is somehow similar wiht 1021 for sure it will be a nice receiver

Nag-Joko Joko lang si King Markcrenz.  ;D

Try ko pa later bro when I get home. Sobrang busy sa work. Hehehe.

Problema ko ngayon yung wires sa likod. :(

Wrap in electrical tape individually. parang wiring ng auto. Just don't forget to label the wires.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 01, 2012 at 01:56 PM
Loko. Wala ako nun.

Nag-Joko Joko lang si King Markcrenz.  ;D

Wrap in electrical tape individually. parang wiring ng auto. Just don't forget to label the wires.

magkaka ELITE din tayo hahaha....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 01, 2012 at 02:05 PM
magkaka ELITE din tayo hahaha....

Malabo this year. Daming utang.  :D Sa 2014 pa siguro. Hopefully by that time, it's possible na bumaba na ang prepro.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 01, 2012 at 02:27 PM
Malabo this year. Daming utang.  :D Sa 2014 pa siguro. Hopefully by that time, it's possible na bumaba na ang prepro.

hehehe....so 2014 ang target hehehe

ako downgrade sa HT more on audio hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 01, 2012 at 03:40 PM
hehehe....so 2014 ang target hehehe

ako downgrade sa HT more on audio hehehe

I-quote kita because i'm sure, nasasabi mo lang yan ngayon. For now eka.  ;) Masbagay sa iyo ang Elite kasi branded ang mga speaks mo. Ako puro DIY mga HT speaks ko.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 01, 2012 at 04:26 PM
I-quote kita because i'm sure, nasasabi mo lang yan ngayon. For now eka.  ;) Masbagay sa iyo ang Elite kasi branded ang mga speaks mo. Ako puro DIY mga HT speaks ko.
hahaha...
RTI A3 nalang natitira saken lolz
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Billabong on Jul 01, 2012 at 04:37 PM
I-quote kita because i'm sure, nasasabi mo lang yan ngayon. For now eka.  ;) Masbagay sa iyo ang Elite kasi branded ang mga speaks mo. Ako puro DIY mga HT speaks ko.

Your enclosures are DIY but your speakers are JBL. ;)

When are you going to finish calibrating your Elite SC-68? :o :o
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 01, 2012 at 10:31 PM
Your enclosures are DIY but your speakers are JBL. ;)

When are you going to finish calibrating your Elite SC-68? :o :o

Nagpapaniwala ka sa cheezmax ni King Markcrenz. Mahilig kasi siyang magparamdam kapag may new gear siya, kunwari ipapasa niya sa iba yun new ger para batiin siya na may new receiver siya.  :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jul 01, 2012 at 11:05 PM
When are you going to finish calibrating your Elite SC-68? :o :o

Wow naka SC-68 na pala si Master Nelson! Ayos yan, native support for high resolution pcm and dsd formats via USB, tapos 32 bit audio capable via the PC interface. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 02, 2012 at 05:57 AM
Wow naka SC-68 na pala si Master Nelson! Ayos yan, native support for high resolution pcm and dsd formats via USB, tapos 32 bit audio capable via the PC interface. :)

SC-68
S - Shopping
C - Cheap
sa
168

 ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 02, 2012 at 10:12 AM
SC-68
S - Shopping
C - Cheap
sa
168

 ;)

Puwede puwede.  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 03, 2012 at 08:00 PM
At last! Na try ko na rin yung Airplay! Hehehe. Hintayin lang pala ng ilang minutes bago ma recognize ng phone ko yung receiver.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 03, 2012 at 08:02 PM
At last! Na try ko na rin yung Airplay! Hehehe. Hintayin lang pala ng ilang minutes bago ma recognize ng phone ko yung receiver.

good
make sure you set max volume on your receiver
baka masira speaker mo kapag tumodo ung lakas...
saka huwag ka magbago ng volume sa iphone/ipod/pc
sa receiver lage
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 03, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Okay bro.. Thanks.. Gamit ko yung iControlAV na app sa iPhone.

One question bro, if DTS format yung movie na i-play ko, hindi ba makita na DTS yung nasa display ng receiver? Wala rin akong ma-set sa modes na dts. Puro Dolby lahat, neo6, neural sound, etc..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jul 03, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Okay bro.. Thanks.. Gamit ko yung iControlAV na app sa iPhone.

One question bro, if DTS format yung movie na i-play ko, hindi ba makita na DTS yung nasa display ng receiver? Wala rin akong ma-set sa modes na dts. Puro Dolby lahat, neo6, neural sound, etc..

you can just set it to direct. the avr will display the sound format it's receiving and mas pure pa young sound without any processing
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 04, 2012 at 09:36 PM
you can just set it to direct. the avr will display the sound format it's receiving and mas pure pa young sound without any processing

Hi sir, I tried setting it to "Direct". But "Stereo" lang yung ma decode nya (Stereo ang dislay sa Receiver)... I checked on my source (MKV file), it is in DTS 5.1 Format.

Here's my setup by the way, WD Hard drive to Samsung BD-D5100 to Pioneer VSX-1021-K to TV. I'm sure that my player supports the DTS and Dolby encoding.

And also yung Program format indicators (speaker indicators).

[ L ] and [ R ] lang yung mag light up, pero meron akong center speaker. They all produce sound pero bothered ako kung bakit walang [ C ].

Thanks po mga sir.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jul 05, 2012 at 06:43 AM
Hi sir, I tried setting it to "Direct". But "Stereo" lang yung ma decode nya (Stereo ang dislay sa Receiver)... I checked on my source (MKV file), it is in DTS 5.1 Format.

Here's my setup by the way, WD Hard drive to Samsung BD-D5100 to Pioneer VSX-1021-K to TV. I'm sure that my player supports the DTS and Dolby encoding.

And also yung Program format indicators (speaker indicators).

[ L ] and [ R ] lang yung mag light up, pero meron akong center speaker. They all produce sound pero bothered ako kung bakit walang [ C ].

Thanks po mga sir.

may mga files na merong more than one audio track. may stereo, may dd 5.1, may foreign language etc. check for other audio tracks or language. minsan may mga nadodownload na kahit nakalagay na DTS 5.1 ang actual na sound sa file ay stereo lang. meron kasing DTS and Dolby na 2 channel lang
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 05, 2012 at 06:49 AM
Hi sir, I tried setting it to "Direct". But "Stereo" lang yung ma decode nya (Stereo ang dislay sa Receiver)... I checked on my source (MKV file), it is in DTS 5.1 Format.

Here's my setup by the way, WD Hard drive to Samsung BD-D5100 to Pioneer VSX-1021-K to TV. I'm sure that my player supports the DTS and Dolby encoding.

And also yung Program format indicators (speaker indicators).

[ L ] and [ R ] lang yung mag light up, pero meron akong center speaker. They all produce sound pero bothered ako kung bakit walang [ C ].

Thanks po mga sir.

nakaset ba sa raw ung audio ng BD mo?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 05, 2012 at 07:03 AM
nakaset ba sa raw ung audio ng BD mo?

Yes bro, I think... I still have to re-check when I get home.. You have an idea bakit walang [ C ] yung indicator ng receiver?

may mga files na merong more than one audio track. may stereo, may dd 5.1, may foreign language etc. check for other audio tracks or language. minsan may mga nadodownload na kahit nakalagay na DTS 5.1 ang actual na sound sa file ay stereo lang. meron kasing DTS and Dolby na 2 channel lang

6 audio channels po yung nasa file properties ng mkv files when I checked sa pc..
Na try ko rin i-play sa HTPC ng friend ko, 5.1 surround naman..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jul 05, 2012 at 07:07 AM

6 audio channels po yung nasa file properties ng mkv files when I checked sa pc..
Na try ko rin i-play sa HTPC ng friend ko, 5.1 surround naman..

yun you just have to select multi channel when playing the file through your bd player
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jul 05, 2012 at 07:09 AM
pwede kasing ganito yan. example:

audio 1 - Dolby Digital 2 channel
audio 2 - Dolby Digital 5.1
audio 3 - DTS 5.1
audio 4 - Dolby Digital Japanese

so you have to cycle through the audio tracks through your BD player and choose whichever you like. by default usually ang i play kasi yung audio track 1
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 05, 2012 at 07:13 AM
pwede kasing ganito yan. example:

audio 1 - Dolby Digital 2 channel
audio 2 - Dolby Digital 5.1
audio 3 - DTS 5.1
audio 4 - Dolby Digital Japanese

so you have to cycle through the audio tracks through your BD player and choose whichever you like. by default usually ang i play kasi yung audio track 1

1 lang yung audio track ng mga mkv files ko.. Mostly Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS 5.1...

yun you just have to select multi channel when playing the file through your bd player

Sa listening mode po ba eto ng receiver?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jul 05, 2012 at 07:32 AM
1 lang yung audio track ng mga mkv files ko.. Mostly Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS 5.1...

Sa listening mode po ba eto ng receiver?

so the avr is set to direct, bd player is set to raw and when you play the file walang indication sa avr na it's getting dolby/dts? i think may small symbols sa avr to indicate DTS and DD. may naririnig ka ba sa center channel? have you tried other mkv files?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 05, 2012 at 07:36 AM
so the avr is set to direct, bd player is set to raw and when you play the file walang indication sa avr na it's getting dolby/dts? i think may small symbols sa avr to indicate DTS and DD. may naririnig ka ba sa center channel? have you tried other mkv files?

Yes po, avr set to direct pero i'm not sure sa bd player ko if raw ba... Check ko later..

STEREO lang yung naka display eh.. Tapos left and right speakers lang yung may sound. Pero if i-set ko to Dolby Pro Logic II or Neo6, etc, may sound na yung 3 including the center speaker...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jul 05, 2012 at 07:48 AM
Yes po, avr set to direct pero i'm not sure sa bd player ko if raw ba... Check ko later..

STEREO lang yung naka display eh.. Tapos left and right speakers lang yung may sound. Pero if i-set ko to Dolby Pro Logic II or Neo6, etc, may sound na yung 3 including the center speaker...

pro logic and neo6 are just simulated surrounds. kahit stereo yung file kaya niya magmukhang naka 5.1. kasi pag naka direct ka sa avr, yun lang ang lalabas direct ang stereo mag a appear lang pag stereo yung naka set sa avr. 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 05, 2012 at 07:54 AM
pro logic and neo6 are just simulated surrounds. kahit stereo yung file kaya niya magmukhang naka 5.1. kasi pag naka direct ka sa avr, yun lang ang lalabas direct ang stereo mag a appear lang pag stereo yung naka set sa avr. 

Yun po yong di ko na intindihan, kung bakit stereo lang yung ma detect nya if DIRECT yung setting ko, kahit dts or dolby 5.1 yung source ko.. :(
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 05, 2012 at 08:52 PM
nakaset ba sa raw ung audio ng BD mo?

I solved my problem na mga boss! Naka set lang pala sa PCM yung Bluray player ko. I changed it to audiophile something (I've read the description, it says for HDMI v1.3 that supports Dolby True HD and DTS Master Audio)

Thanks mga sir!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 05, 2012 at 09:01 PM
I solved my problem na mga boss! Naka set lang pala sa PCM yung Bluray player ko. I changed it to audiophile something (I've read the description, it says for HDMI v1.3 that supports Dolby True HD and DTS Master Audio)

Thanks mga sir!

dun lang talaga kasi ung issue nyan setting ng BD mo....

good....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: eymard_124 on Jul 06, 2012 at 11:40 AM
noob inquiry po mga masters... may problema ba kung sakaling kabitan ko ng magic sing ito?

material: pioneer 521 + logitech Z5500

salamat po sa assitance.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 06, 2012 at 12:39 PM
noob inquiry po mga masters... may problema ba kung sakaling kabitan ko ng magic sing ito?

material: pioneer 521 + logitech Z5500

salamat po sa assitance.

I dunno if tama po ako, but I think pwede. Optical/Coaxial IN sa receiver, OUT sa speaker..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 06, 2012 at 10:04 PM
noob inquiry po mga masters... may problema ba kung sakaling kabitan ko ng magic sing ito?

material: pioneer 521 + logitech Z5500

salamat po sa assitance.

Use the analog input of your receiver.

I dunno if tama po ako, but I think pwede. Optical/Coaxial IN sa receiver, OUT sa speaker..

Kung may digital output ang Magic sing. Hopefully sana meron na...? Or baka hindi din ako updatred and may lumabas ng sing a long na may digital output na?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rochie on Jul 07, 2012 at 09:07 PM
Im currently using VSX-521K as my receiver and Im planning to upgrade, ok ba na may upgrade ako to 821K or 1021K or higher na model na? wala ba gaanong significance pagdating sa audio/video quality ang 521 vs 821? thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jul 07, 2012 at 09:15 PM
Im currently using VSX-521K as my receiver and Im planning to upgrade, ok ba na may upgrade ako to 821K or 1021K or higher na model na? wala ba gaanong significance pagdating sa audio/video quality ang 521 vs 821? thanks
go for 1021 but if i were you aim for elite reciever.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jul 08, 2012 at 07:27 AM
Im currently using VSX-521K as my receiver and Im planning to upgrade, ok ba na may upgrade ako to 821K or 1021K or higher na model na? wala ba gaanong significance pagdating sa audio/video quality ang 521 vs 821? thanks
nothing significant. usually 10xx and higher models have better amplification and video processing. kahit elite series, the 2 models at the bottom do not employ the same amps as the higher models.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rochie on Jul 08, 2012 at 06:19 PM
nothing significant. usually 10xx and higher models have better amplification and video processing. kahit elite series, the 2 models at the bottom do not employ the same amps as the higher models.



thanks ng madami, so kailangan ko ng matinding pangungupit sa pera ko nito hahahahahahahaha.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: eymard_124 on Jul 09, 2012 at 08:40 AM
Use the analog input of your receiver.

Kung may digital output ang Magic sing. Hopefully sana meron na...? Or baka hindi din ako updatred and may lumabas ng sing a long na may digital output na?

Salamat po sa input! yung sales kasi sa pioneer di daw adivsable gamitan ng magic sing and the likes kasi daw yung feedback na na-create nakakasira ng speakers. sakto naman wala pa ako nababasang gumamit ng magic sing so naisip ko baka nga nakakasira.

anyhow, salamat po ulit... wala naman pala problema.

regards,
eymard
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 10, 2012 at 07:19 AM
Salamat po sa input! yung sales kasi sa pioneer di daw adivsable gamitan ng magic sing and the likes kasi daw yung feedback na na-create nakakasira ng speakers. sakto naman wala pa ako nababasang gumamit ng magic sing so naisip ko baka nga nakakasira.

anyhow, salamat po ulit... wala naman pala problema.

regards,
eymard

Masakit sa tenga ang feedback. Depende sa volume kung makakasira. Di advisable because you have cheaper options naman. Pero i don't mind naman.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 10, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Ano po ba normal operating temperature ng mga AV Receivers mga master? Specifically sa Pioneer VSX-1021-K... Wala po kasi aircon dito. Tapos 12PM - 2PM, so ang init2x... LOL.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jul 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Ano po ba normal operating temperature ng mga AV Receivers mga master? Specifically sa Pioneer VSX-1021-K... Wala po kasi aircon dito. Tapos 12PM - 2PM, so ang init2x... LOL.

Sabi ni Master Nelson eh okay lang daw ang walang A/C. Safe yan ng continuous use maski 35 deg C. ambient temperature and 85% relative humidity.

Pero pag nakita mo ang chiller ni Master Nelson, mahihiya ang MOA at Megamall.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 10, 2012 at 01:54 PM
I see... Normal pa lang to. Hehehe. Lagyan ko na lang ng electric fan sa susunod. Haha.

Mayron na naman akong problem mga boss. Ngayon pa lang ako naka try nito.

Na set ko na yung Bluray player ko from PCM to Bitstream (Audiophile). Dolby and DTS files sound okay. Pero pag play ko ng Transformers at Eagles concert (both in DTS format), choppy po ang sound. Pero pag play ko sa computer, okay lang.

Help me po... Thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nogie on Jul 10, 2012 at 07:51 PM
Im currently using VSX-521K as my receiver and Im planning to upgrade, ok ba na may upgrade ako to 821K or 1021K or higher na model na? wala ba gaanong significance pagdating sa audio/video quality ang 521 vs 821? thanks

If you can stretch your budget a bit more, get the vsx1121. Although it's not great for music(reference is integrated amps) , it's very good in movies and video processing is amazing. I have it for 2 months and i am enjoying it.

BTW, VSX-1121 is identical to the Elite 52 except that the price is lower by $250. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jul 10, 2012 at 08:36 PM
If you can stretch your budget a bit more, get the vsx1121. Although it's not great for music(reference is integrated amps) , it's very good in movies and video processing is amazing. I have it for 2 months and i am enjoying it.

BTW, VSX-1121 is identical to the Elite 52 except that the price is lower by $250. ;D ;D

the pio vsx 1122 is out why is it cheaper than the 1121 on amazon? the 1121 is 669.99 while the 1122 is just 579  ???
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 10, 2012 at 08:44 PM
the pio vsx 1122 is out why is it cheaper than the 1121 on amazon? the 1121 is 669.99 while the 1122 is just 579  ???

mas mura ung mga 2012 models
check mo din ung 1021 mas mahal sa 1022
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nogie on Jul 10, 2012 at 09:05 PM
the pio vsx 1122 is out why is it cheaper than the 1121 on amazon? the 1121 is 669.99 while the 1122 is just 579  ???

They're not the same, look at the specs of 1122 downgraded na naman this year at parang 1021 lang yong specs ng 1122.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jul 11, 2012 at 12:21 PM
They're not the same, look at the specs of 1122 downgraded na naman this year at parang 1021 lang yong specs ng 1122.  ;D
dati nga yung 8xx 7.1, yung more recent models 5.1 na lang. hayz...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jul 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM
dati nga yung 8xx 7.1, yung more recent models 5.1 na lang. hayz...

Parang sa food business lang yan, lumiliit yung serving. People vote with their wallets eh, lalo na ngayon at tough economic times.

Kung puro high end ang binibili ng mga tao, I'm sure pataas ng pataas ang spec at price ng mga binebenta ng makers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nogie on Jul 11, 2012 at 05:50 PM
dati nga yung 8xx 7.1, yung more recent models 5.1 na lang. hayz...

Dapat bro. wais mga buyer na dapat tinitignan yong specs bago bilhin.

Based on the pics below kitang-kita yong difference ng 1121 vs. 1122.

Pioneer VSX-1121 110watts 31 lbs.

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/okel_okel/VSX-1121_large.jpg)

Pioneer SC-1222 Class D amps 120 watts 31 lbs. Current model

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/okel_okel/SC-1222_large.jpg)

Pioneer Elite 52 110 watts 31 lbs (same specs as the 1121, same everything except for Elite badge & $250 price difference)

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/okel_okel/VSX-52_reg.jpg)

Pioneer VSX-1122 90 watts 22 lbs.

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/okel_okel/VSX-1122_large.jpg)

Pioneer VSX-1021 90 watts 22 lbs.

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/okel_okel/VSX-1021_Front_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Jul 11, 2012 at 06:43 PM
Dapat bro. wais mga buyer na dapat tinitignan yong specs bago bilhin.

Based on the pics below kitang-kita yong difference ng 1121 vs. 1122.

Pioneer VSX-1121 110watts 31 lbs.

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/okel_okel/VSX-1121_large.jpg)

Pioneer SC-1222 Class D amps 120 watts 31 lbs. Current model

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/okel_okel/SC-1222_large.jpg)

Pioneer Elite 52 110 watts 31 lbs (same specs as the 1121, same everything except for Elite badge & $250 price difference)

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/okel_okel/VSX-52_reg.jpg)

Pioneer VSX-1122 90 watts 22 lbs.

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/okel_okel/VSX-1122_large.jpg)

Pioneer VSX-1021 90 watts 22 lbs.

(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/okel_okel/VSX-1021_Front_large.jpg)


good to know. so para sa mga may planong mag upgrade check the specs pala ang rule of thumb instead of just following the model line.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jul 11, 2012 at 10:07 PM
In short, SC-1222 or SC-1522 daw dapat ang bilhin ng may mga budget for 2012.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jojo_uy on Jul 15, 2012 at 03:59 PM
match kaya yun 520k ko sa speaker ni anthony audio ?

(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s424/jojouy022/IMG_0581-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 25, 2012 at 04:14 PM
Eto po yung video ng problem ko...

Choppy sound from an MKV source (DTS 5.1)
http://youtu.be/a1g4Wk-1pNA (http://youtu.be/a1g4Wk-1pNA)

Settings ng Bluray Player (Samsung BD-D5100)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/ilxguv.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Aug 04, 2012 at 01:42 PM
maganda ba yung lx53 na binebenta sa listening in style? is it a match for the marantz 6005 in terms of preformance? its such a good deal din kasi
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 04, 2012 at 01:47 PM
match kaya yun 520k ko sa speaker ni anthony audio ?

(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s424/jojouy022/IMG_0581-1.jpg)

get 920 to 1020 model bro
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: g3lo on Aug 05, 2012 at 06:35 AM
My Yamaha RX-V420 is due for replacement. Is the Pioneer VSX-522K already available here in the Philippines? I tried asking shops in malls but not available yet.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Aug 05, 2012 at 12:32 PM
My Yamaha RX-V420 is due for replacement. Is the Pioneer VSX-522K already available here in the Philippines? I tried asking shops in malls but not available yet.

i'm sure malapit na yan kaya bagsak presyo na yung last generation of pioneer amps. maybe they're just "hoarding" up a bit longer to see if they can dispose of the '21 series as much as they can
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Aug 05, 2012 at 10:33 PM
I'm hesitant to buy the pioneer LX53 because of MCACC does not EQ sub. i need more info about it.
 Hows the performance of MCACC?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Aug 05, 2012 at 10:42 PM
I'm hesitant to buy the pioneer LX53 because of MCACC does not EQ sub. i need more info about it.
 Hows the performance of MCACC?

it's amazing how a little time on google can dig up so much

http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Pioneer-VSX-LX53/

http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/products/archive/VSX-LX53/index.html

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Aug 06, 2012 at 09:32 AM
it's amazing how a little time on google can dig up so much

http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Pioneer-VSX-LX53/

http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/products/archive/VSX-LX53/index.html


nice canned response.
Its amazing how your reading comprehension has failed.
If your going to troll this isn't the place to do it there are sited dedicated for that.
like 4chan and spares us from your stupidity and go there.
I expected a more mature response than some of the posters here.

Non of your links show what mcacc does or how it preforms.

I'm looking for someone who has experience mcacc perform first hand. how good is it vs Audessey.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Aug 06, 2012 at 09:47 AM
I'm hesitant to buy the pioneer LX53 because of MCACC does not EQ sub. i need more info about it.
 Hows the performance of MCACC?

I have a Pioneer 1021 and the MCACC feature does it's job decently. The distance between the speakers and calibration mic was virtually correct. But I did a manual calibration based on my preference. I haven't tried other receivers' calibration features. Btw, I'm just using fronts and center speakers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 06, 2012 at 10:02 AM
I'm hesitant to buy the pioneer LX53 because of MCACC does not EQ sub. i need more info about it.
 Hows the performance of MCACC?

then don't buy it if your hesitant. Reading reviews will not always the answer.

no spoonfeed here in PDVD , take time to read it by yourself and then decide

warmaster is not a troll here. I'm not his friend as here as well but i believe he has some good points. Using google as your friend. Take your time using it. I did not even bother reading the link he provided you.

MCACC will be fair good since your in the PIONEER thread.

Just buy receiver that is not/none hesistant to buy
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: warmaster on Aug 06, 2012 at 10:03 AM
nice canned response.
Its amazing how your reading comprehension has failed.
If your going to troll this isn't the place to do it there are sited dedicated for that.
like 4chan and spares us from your stupidity and go there.
I expected a more mature response than some of the posters here.

Non of your links show what mcacc does or how it preforms.

I'm looking for someone who has experience mcacc perform first hand. how good is it vs Audessey.

i'm no troll but if you managed to read between the lines, whathifi should have pointed out that the inadequacy of MCACC to EQ the sub as a as "Against". but since there was no mention of it, should mean that it wasn't an issue
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 06, 2012 at 10:06 AM
I'm hesitant to buy the pioneer LX53 because of MCACC does not EQ sub. i need more info about it.
 Hows the performance of MCACC?

The advanced phase control and 3 parametric notch filters on top of the typical graphic EQ offers quite some control over room and placement issues. The fact that you can manually override each setting makes it very customizable (even without a pro kit).

It does lack in the subwoofer equalization department because it uses 1 octave spacing for its acoustic calibration. The lowest GEQ band falls at 63Hz, which isn't low enough for many room/sub issues. What makes up for this is the notch filters that it can apply on the 3 most dominant standing waves (and this can handle peaks between 16Hz and 1kHz). That essentially controls the most prevalent room issues.

This solution won't deliver a response as clean as Audyssey MultEQ XT or XT32, but it's probably superior to MultEQ overall.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Aug 06, 2012 at 07:37 PM
okay i apologies, i over reacted a bit. i kinda like the lx53 might pull the trigger soon. i have to test other reciever muna.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Aug 06, 2012 at 07:49 PM
okay i apologies, i over reacted a bit. i kinda like the lx53 might pull the trigger soon. i have to test other reciever muna.

I have heard the LX53 connected to Polk Audio RTi A7 and CSi A6, we used that to test my Klipsch Subs and it sounded awesome playing Battle Los Angels.. Also used that in playing Concert materials and ang ganda nang performance nya...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Aug 07, 2012 at 04:52 PM
I bought the vsx lx-53 finally. This is my first high end receiver.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Aug 07, 2012 at 08:19 PM
I bought the vsx lx-53 finally. This is my first high end receiver.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.
congrats. I believe you can have 6 memory preset for your MCACC calibration.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: uybrian on Aug 08, 2012 at 10:59 PM
match kaya yun 520k ko sa speaker ni anthony audio ?

(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s424/jojouy022/IMG_0581-1.jpg)

hindi ba mataas ang tv mo?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: SoundProof on Aug 12, 2012 at 03:10 PM
guys ok po ba ang pioneer 512.
fronts rti a1
sub dswpro 440

plan ko 5.1 pero 2.1 muna sa ngayon.
80%movie
20 music
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 12, 2012 at 03:11 PM
guys ok po ba ang pioneer 512.
fronts rti a1
sub dswpro 440

plan ko 5.1 pero 2.1 muna sa ngayon.
80%movie
20 music

wala pong ganyang model ang pio
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Aug 12, 2012 at 03:38 PM
guys ok po ba ang pioneer 512.
fronts rti a1
sub dswpro 440

plan ko 5.1 pero 2.1 muna sa ngayon.
80%movie
20 music

Baka 521?

I own one and its very good for an entry level avr.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: SoundProof on Aug 12, 2012 at 04:19 PM
ay sorry 521 pala.
sapat na kaya to para sa setup ko?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 12, 2012 at 04:27 PM
ay sorry 521 pala.
sapat na kaya to para sa setup ko?

bili ka nalang ng used midrange avr hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: SoundProof on Aug 12, 2012 at 05:17 PM
gusto ko sana yung 509 eh. kaya lang 110v meron.
yung 521 kasi may nagbebenta sa akin 10k
ok na ba yun?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 12, 2012 at 06:26 PM
gusto ko sana yung 509 eh. kaya lang 110v meron.
yung 521 kasi may nagbebenta sa akin 10k
ok na ba yun?


it depends on you bro hehe....
not bad
 
dts hdma
hdmi
3d
dd hd


 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Aug 12, 2012 at 09:03 PM
gusto ko sana yung 509 eh. kaya lang 110v meron.
yung 521 kasi may nagbebenta sa akin 10k
ok na ba yun?

get the 521 then dont go back here pdvd
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Aug 13, 2012 at 07:18 AM
get the 521 then dont go back here pdvd

That isn't a nice thing to say.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 13, 2012 at 07:23 AM
That isn't a nice thing to say.

Positive scripting natin sinabi ni JOKO haha

Pioneer 521 will be a great receiver not unless you keep browsing here at PDVD
for sure if you have money in your pocket you will get mid to high end avr

SARS

but i was infected by a new disease recently

GASTOS ENTIRITIS haha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: DTNS on Aug 13, 2012 at 08:27 AM
may lunas sa SARS at GASTOS ENTIRITIS: it's called going broke!  :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Aug 13, 2012 at 08:32 AM
gusto ko sana yung 509 eh. kaya lang 110v meron.
yung 521 kasi may nagbebenta sa akin 10k
ok na ba yun?

for entry level yes. brand new nito sa 10k na lang sa listening room.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Aug 13, 2012 at 09:00 AM
get the 521 then dont go back here pdvd

 :o


gusto ko sana yung 509 eh. kaya lang 110v meron.
yung 521 kasi may nagbebenta sa akin 10k
ok na ba yun?


tama go for the 521. 509 is just ancient. i found a good deal for the 521 at 9999 at listening post with warranty pa.

if your patient you can purchase a higher end used unit on the pinoydvd market section. good luck
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Aug 13, 2012 at 10:59 AM
master ivan talaga, always serious ;D
nagbibiro lang po :D (kamot ulo)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 13, 2012 at 11:06 AM
:o


tama go for the 521. 509 is just ancient. i found a good deal for the 521 at 9999 at listening post with warranty pa.

if your patient you can purchase a higher end used unit on the pinoydvd market section. good luck

509 - onkyo ba yan?
kasi katapat ng 521 sa onkyo is 309 - 509 entry level
hindi pa ancient si 509 kasi same sila ng 521 and 09 series ng onkyo na 2011 models



joko - kamotin ko? lol
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Aug 13, 2012 at 11:13 AM
509 - onkyo ba yan?
kasi katapat ng 521 sa onkyo is 309 - 509 entry level
hindi pa ancient si 509 kasi same sila ng 521 and 09 series ng onkyo na 2011 models


baka onkyo 509. kung ganon okay din yun.

pioneer does have an older 509.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-D509S-Dolby-Digital-Receiver/dp/B00004SD9G (http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-D509S-Dolby-Digital-Receiver/dp/B00004SD9G)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 13, 2012 at 11:22 AM
baka onkyo 509. kung ganon okay din yun.

pioneer does have an older 509.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-D509S-Dolby-Digital-Receiver/dp/B00004SD9G (http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-D509S-Dolby-Digital-Receiver/dp/B00004SD9G)

for sure onkyo 509 un tapos 110v

so musta naman ang new receiver? paired with what speaker sir?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: SoundProof on Aug 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM
ay sorry may 509 pala na pio hahaha.
pero onkyo 509 nga yung tinutukoy ko.

pero ang hirap kumuha ng 509 na 220v.
hirap mag decide hahaha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Xanxan on Aug 13, 2012 at 02:37 PM
mga sir  may pinag kaiba ba ang  pio 1021 sa 1020 sa sound quality, mas na improve ba ang sound ng 1021?  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Aug 13, 2012 at 02:46 PM
mga sir  may pinag kaiba ba ang  pio 1021 sa 1020 sa sound quality, mas na improve ba ang sound ng 1021?  ;)

Uyyy mukang may balak ka sir ah..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 13, 2012 at 03:24 PM
mga sir  may pinag kaiba ba ang  pio 1021 sa 1020 sa sound quality, mas na improve ba ang sound ng 1021?  ;)
havent heard 1020 so i cannot comment hehe....

airplay and ipad/ipod ung additional feat.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Aug 13, 2012 at 03:43 PM
1020 and the 1021 more or less the same amp, i doubt you will hear any difference.
raiders right you more or less get airplay with the 1021, let me add usb plays more formats and some firmware updates. edit i think you also get passthrough  with the 1021, oh power supply on thw 1021 is much high around 500 vs the 1020 which has around 250.

I do find the idea of airplay fun but you can get the same thing if you just buy an apple TV with additional expenses.

both are good choice. if you have an ipad then maybe the 1021 is better. if not then you can save few pesos and get the 1020
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Aug 13, 2012 at 09:13 PM
Go for 1021! I really enjoy the Airplay feature and remote app. Hehehe.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: john9.1 on Aug 13, 2012 at 10:38 PM
Good day PDVD! Need your inputs lang mga sir as I am new in this hobby. I own a Pioneer SC LX75 and driving currently RTI A7, CSI A6 and RTI A3 (without subwoofer). I calibrated automatically using MCACC, currently channel level are as follows: front -5.5dB, Center -7.5dB, surround -5.0dB, all speakers are set to large kaso parang bitin pa rin ang tunog. May maisa-suggest ba kayong settings and channel level?

Your suggestions will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Aug 13, 2012 at 11:03 PM
Good day PDVD! Need your inputs lang mga sir as I am new in this hobby. I own a Pioneer SC LX75 and driving currently RTI A7, CSI A6 and RTI A3 (without subwoofer). I calibrated automatically using MCACC, currently channel level are as follows: front -5.5dB, Center -7.5dB, surround -5.0dB, all speakers are set to large kaso parang bitin pa rin ang tunog. May maisa-suggest ba kayong settings and channel level?

Your suggestions will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
try manual calibration.most user still find the need to recalibrate speaker setting manually after automatic calibration.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 13, 2012 at 11:10 PM
Good day PDVD! Need your inputs lang mga sir as I am new in this hobby. I own a Pioneer SC LX75 and driving currently RTI A7, CSI A6 and RTI A3 (without subwoofer). I calibrated automatically using MCACC, currently channel level are as follows: front -5.5dB, Center -7.5dB, surround -5.0dB, all speakers are set to large kaso parang bitin pa rin ang tunog. May maisa-suggest ba kayong settings and channel level?

Your suggestions will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

That avr has a hefty amp. I know what you mean. Tingin ko you need a subwoofer na. No amount of settings and calibration can compensate for a sub (unless you have those speakers with big powered subs). However, I think subwoofer ang hinahanap at kailangan mo.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Aug 13, 2012 at 11:16 PM
That avr has a hefty amp. I know what you mean. Tingin ko you need a subwoofer na. No amount of settings and calibration can compensate for a sub (unless you have those speakers with big powered subs). However, I think subwoofer ang hinahanap at kailangan mo.

Yup i agree with this....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: john9.1 on Aug 14, 2012 at 12:31 AM
try manual calibration.most user still find the need to recalibrate speaker setting manually after automatic calibration.

That is actually what I want to do next but I want to make sure na tama ang gagawin ko kaya nanghingi ako ng inyong inputs mga gurus. Will it be safe if I set level across all the speakers to +2dB or higher?

That avr has a hefty amp. I know what you mean. Tingin ko you need a subwoofer na. No amount of settings and calibration can compensate for a sub (unless you have those speakers with big powered subs). However, I think subwoofer ang hinahanap at kailangan mo.

Gusto ko na talaga lagyan ng subwoofer but the local dealer of Polk audio here in Qatar doesn't have stock yet. I am planning to get it instead there sa atin pag bakasyon namin this year. Polk audio DSW Pro 660wi ang gusto ko sana pero may masa-suggest po ba kayo mga gurus na ibang sub na babagay sa set up ko?

Thanks again in advance!

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Aug 14, 2012 at 04:14 AM
That is actually what I want to do next but I want to make sure na tama ang gagawin ko kaya nanghingi ako ng inyong inputs mga gurus. Will it be safe if I set level across all the speakers to +2dB or higher?


Maraming magandang sub sir, depende rin siguro kung music lover ka or movie buff.  I'm also a pio user na addict sa movies, ngayon lang ako nahihilig sa music and I got the diamond 10mx.  Its only now that I realize that the wharfs arent that great for music but wonderful for HT.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 14, 2012 at 05:50 AM
That is actually what I want to do next but I want to make sure na tama ang gagawin ko kaya nanghingi ako ng inyong inputs mga gurus. Will it be safe if I set level across all the speakers to +2dB or higher?


It's safe naman pero isn't it like simply increasing the volume knob +2db or higher din?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: john9.1 on Aug 14, 2012 at 06:12 AM
Maraming magandang sub sir, depende rin siguro kung music lover ka or movie buff.  I'm also a pio user na addict sa movies, ngayon lang ako nahihilig sa music and I got the diamond 10mx.  Its only now that I realize that the wharfs arent that great for music but wonderful for HT.
Totoo yan sir, kaya mahirap mag decide kung alin ang kukunin lalo na pag-tight ang budget.

I'm looking for a sub sana which can serve us well on both music (for me) and movies (for my wife and daughter). I am considering DSW pro 660. I read a few good reviews and i am quite decided to get this. unfortunately hindi available ngayon dito kaya tiis muna na walang sub.  
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: john9.1 on Aug 14, 2012 at 06:30 AM
It's safe naman pero isn't it like simply increasing the volume knob +2db or higher din?

Tama sir but what I want is to hear the clarity of the sound in low volume level.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 14, 2012 at 07:14 AM
Tama sir but what I want is to hear the clarity of the sound in low volume level.

Check mo kung may dynamic volume or dynamic range control ang avr mo. it's boosts the weak freqs during low volume playback so you can maximize the dynamic range ng audio. Alam ko meron yan.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Xanxan on Aug 14, 2012 at 07:28 AM
1020 and the 1021 more or less the same amp, i doubt you will hear any difference.
raiders right you more or less get airplay with the 1021, let me add usb plays more formats and some firmware updates. edit i think you also get passthrough  with the 1021, oh power supply on thw 1021 is much high around 500 vs the 1020 which has around 250.

I do find the idea of airplay fun but you can get the same thing if you just buy an apple TV with additional expenses.

both are good choice. if you have an ipad then maybe the 1021 is better. if not then you can save few pesos and get the 1020

ah oki sir 920 kasi gamit ko dati at narinig ko na yung 1020 wala sila pinag kaiba sa sound. Sa mga connections lang siguro nagkaiba  ganun din siguro 1021 mga feautres lang ang nadagdag,  thanks sir :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Xanxan on Aug 14, 2012 at 07:30 AM
Uyyy mukang may balak ka sir ah..

wala pa sir nag tititngin tingin lang muna ko hehe ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Xanxan on Aug 14, 2012 at 07:32 AM
havent heard 1020 so i cannot comment hehe....

airplay and ipad/ipod ung additional feat.


1021 nga pala gamit mo dati sir hehe ok ba yung air play? :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Aug 14, 2012 at 08:18 AM
1021 nga pala gamit mo dati sir hehe ok ba yung air play? :)

oo masaya yung airplay. basta naka wifi router ka pwede ka mag stream ng music direct from ipad or iphone.
very convenient.
sayang lang airplay yung lx53 ko.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 14, 2012 at 08:25 AM
1021 nga pala gamit mo dati sir hehe ok ba yung air play? :)

yup i used it most of the time

make sure na ilimit mo to 10db ung max volume
once while using itunes nagadjust ako ng volume dun lumakas lahat haha...kala ko sira ung speaker ko e...hahahaha...

gabi pa naman!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Xanxan on Aug 14, 2012 at 08:31 AM
oo masaya yung airplay. basta naka wifi router ka pwede ka mag stream ng music direct from ipad or iphone.
very convenient.
sayang lang airplay yung lx53 ko.
hehe mukhang ok nga yun ah..ok din naman kahit naka usb. di nga lang talaga tulad pag naka air play di na kelangang isuksuk sa usb input nya hmm.. ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Xanxan on Aug 14, 2012 at 08:39 AM
yup i used it most of the time

make sure na ilimit mo to 10db ung max volume
once while using itunes nagadjust ako ng volume dun lumakas lahat haha...kala ko sira ung speaker ko e...hahahaha...

gabi pa naman!
ganun ba sir masaya nga talaga ang airplay hehehe :D malakas na din yung 10db
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: john9.1 on Aug 14, 2012 at 04:59 PM
Check mo kung may dynamic volume or dynamic range control ang avr mo. it's boosts the weak freqs during low volume playback so you can maximize the dynamic range ng audio. Alam ko meron yan.
I've turned on the DRC and set it to max, tweaked the channel level. Now seating in my sweet spot at 36dB I can say that SQ has dramatically improved. I am very much satisfied how my system works now with music. Salamat po sa mga inputs!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Aug 14, 2012 at 09:20 PM
@john9.1
You looking for  sub right? I recommend a big sub to go with that pioneer receiver  like svs. Ask mike c.  he deals with those subs and he's usually on the forums.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: john9.1 on Aug 16, 2012 at 07:12 PM
@john9.1
You looking for  sub right? I recommend a big sub to go with that pioneer receiver  like svs. Ask mike c.  he deals with those subs and he's usually on the forums.
SVS is actually my first choice. I am in contact now with sir Mike. Thanks to you sir!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Sep 07, 2012 at 05:48 PM
i've encountered this annoying thing with my pioneer lx53 and my htpc.  Each time i turn on my htpc and receiver there is no sound. The pc does not recognize the receiver. I have to reset my pc just for it to recognize my receiver. this has never happened before with my harman kardon. my pc is running on an ati 4850 video card.
can anyone clarify if this is natural?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 07, 2012 at 10:13 PM
i've encountered this annoying thing with my pioneer lx53 and my htpc.  Each time i turn on my htpc and receiver there is no sound. The pc does not recognize the receiver. I have to reset my pc just for it to recognize my receiver. this has never happened before with my harman kardon. my pc is running on an ati 4850 video card.
can anyone clarify if this is natural?


This happens to me when my monitor is turned off. The PC sometimes do not recognize the receiver kung walang monitor. 2 kasi ang monitor ko. 1 ordinary pc monitor via vga, and another one for movies via hdmi.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Sep 07, 2012 at 10:23 PM
i've encountered this annoying thing with my pioneer lx53 and my htpc.  Each time i turn on my htpc and receiver there is no sound. The pc does not recognize the receiver. I have to reset my pc just for it to recognize my receiver. this has never happened before with my harman kardon. my pc is running on an ati 4850 video card.
can anyone clarify if this is natural?


Sir anong nauuna mong buksan? HTPC then receiver? Or Receiver Then HTPC? Or sabay mo silang on?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 07, 2012 at 10:34 PM
Sir anong nauuna mong buksan? HTPC then receiver? Or Receiver Then HTPC? Or sabay mo silang on?


Monitor and receiver. last ang PC.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Sep 07, 2012 at 10:38 PM
Monitor and receiver. last ang PC.

Yup dapat nga ganito ang sequence...

Nangyayari to sa laptop ko minsan pag direct ko connect sa LCD TV ko.. minsan walang sound..  on ko muna yung mga pagkakabitan then last na yung PC para ma detect nya...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Sep 07, 2012 at 10:53 PM
Monitor and receiver. last ang PC.
dapat matino pc psu mo. otherwise the input stage of your receiver and/or monitor might be damaged by transients during power-up.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Sep 07, 2012 at 11:20 PM
receiver >htpc>projector
mali ba?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 07, 2012 at 11:31 PM
receiver >htpc>projector
mali ba?
PJ > receiver > HTPC
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Sep 08, 2012 at 12:01 AM
out of curiosity, why is there a need for the boot up process to be sequential?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Sep 08, 2012 at 12:46 AM
PJ > receiver > HTPC
out of curiosity, why is there a need for the boot up process to be sequential?

Though originally designed to be hot-swappable (presence of a hot plug detect channel), the actual implementations of this feature vary greatly. Following the said startup sequence minimizes issues, as the devices get to initialize with a detectable target device.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Sep 08, 2012 at 12:52 AM
out of curiosity, why is there a need for the boot up process to be sequential?
the card shuts off the signals if it doesn't sense a receiver during power up. parang delivery service, assuming ikaw si receiver at si delivery guy ang VC. si delivery guy maghahatid yan ng package mo, pag nandun ka para mag-receive, ok na. pero pag wala ka sa house (receiver off) si delivery guy 'di babalik hanggang di mo tatawagan ulit (reboot).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Sep 08, 2012 at 12:54 AM
Though originally designed to be hot-swappable (presence of a hot plug detect channel), the actual implementations of this feature vary greatly. Following the said startup sequence minimizes issues, as the devices get to initialize with a detectable target device.

bihira yata hot swappable hdmi connections
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Sep 08, 2012 at 02:09 AM
bihira yata hot swappable hdmi connections
hindi naman sir mark. or hardware/software dependent din
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Sep 08, 2012 at 02:45 AM
the card shuts off the signals if it doesn't sense a receiver during power up. parang delivery service, assuming ikaw si receiver at si delivery guy ang VC. si delivery guy maghahatid yan ng package mo, pag nandun ka para mag-receive, ok na. pero pag wala ka sa house (receiver off) si delivery guy 'di babalik hanggang di mo tatawagan ulit (reboot).

So there is no way for us to manually detect the receiver after boot up?  meaning, walang refresh?  Pasensya na mga sir ah, I do not own an HTPC, all I am trying to do is learn the logic why.  I am trying to liken this to replacing monitors while a PC is running, its plug and play so no matter how many times I change the monitor (a,b or c) it will power up and will be detected because the port will refresh.  But in an HTPC, it does not work that way, instead when a receiver is not connected, the hardware/shoftwre to detect is is shut off and cannot be powered back up by the user through a refresh, a reboot/restart is necessary, tama po ba mga sir?  Thank you for helping me understand.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Sep 08, 2012 at 08:28 AM
may video naman pero lang audio.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 08, 2012 at 09:38 AM
bihira yata hot swappable hdmi connections

Actually, mine is.  :D Kaya lang, i follow the sequence to minimize issues.
So there is no way for us to manually detect the receiver after boot up?  meaning, walang refresh?  Pasensya na mga sir ah, I do not own an HTPC, all I am trying to do is learn the logic why.  I am trying to liken this to replacing monitors while a PC is running, its plug and play so no matter how many times I change the monitor (a,b or c) it will power up and will be detected because the port will refresh.  But in an HTPC, it does not work that way, instead when a receiver is not connected, the hardware/shoftwre to detect is is shut off and cannot be powered back up by the user through a refresh, a reboot/restart is necessary, tama po ba mga sir?  Thank you for helping me understand.

Sa monitor, madali lang kasi direct sa monitor ang plug in. Sa reciver kasi, both audio and video are involved. So for the pc to detect the video, dapat naka-connect and running din ang monitor that passes thru the receiver. Sa case ko naman, maski naka-on ang receiver, pero shut down ang monitor, walang audio. So parang the pc recognizes the receiver initially as a video output. 2ndary lang as audio output. Pero complicated din kasi ang case ko because i have 2 monitors. One is directly connected sa pc via vga. Wala akong problem dun. The other one is connected sa receiver via hdmi. Plus, dalawa ang audio output ko. one is via usb port, and the other one via hdmi (with video).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Sep 08, 2012 at 10:18 AM

did some more research and i discovered that it might be an ati driver problem. though my video card(4850) is different the situation is similar.:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1409098/ati-6450-hdmi-audio-stops-working (http://www.avsforum.com/t/1409098/ati-6450-hdmi-audio-stops-working)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 08, 2012 at 11:10 AM
May HDMI po ba yung HD4850 mo bro? And connected it directly to the HDMI in sa receiver?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Sep 08, 2012 at 12:02 PM
i have to use a unique dvi> hdmi  adapter from ati that i got from tipid pc on tipid pc. it passes hd audio and video.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 08, 2012 at 01:49 PM
Wow.. Can you send me a link please? I'd like to order one for my HD4850. How much po?

Hindi ba Video lang po ang DVI? Paano po maka pag pass through yung audio by just using that adapter?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 08, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Wow.. Can you send me a link please? I'd like to order one for my HD4850. How much po?

Hindi ba Video lang po ang DVI? Paano po maka pag pass through yung audio by just using that adapter?

Im using Sapphire Vapor-X HD 4850 Crossfire to my PC, cannot bitstream DTS-HD and Dolby True-HD, only DTS.
Kaya nag build ako dedicated HTPC with HD7750 card. Pagkaka alam ko sir 5*** series can bitstream DTS-HD :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 08, 2012 at 02:47 PM
I see... Bibilhin ko na lang yung HD6790.. May nakita kasi ako 4,500 lang.. Hehehe.

I think it can decode bitstream audio na...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Sep 08, 2012 at 03:37 PM
Actually, mine is.  :D Kaya lang, i follow the sequence to minimize issues.
Sa monitor, madali lang kasi direct sa monitor ang plug in. Sa reciver kasi, both audio and video are involved. So for the pc to detect the video, dapat naka-connect and running din ang monitor that passes thru the receiver. Sa case ko naman, maski naka-on ang receiver, pero shut down ang monitor, walang audio. So parang the pc recognizes the receiver initially as a video output. 2ndary lang as audio output. Pero complicated din kasi ang case ko because i have 2 monitors. One is directly connected sa pc via vga. Wala akong problem dun. The other one is connected sa receiver via hdmi. Plus, dalawa ang audio output ko. one is via usb port, and the other one via hdmi (with video).

Hmmmm...interesting. Thank you po Master Nelson.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 08, 2012 at 06:33 PM
Im using Sapphire Vapor-X HD 4850 Crossfire to my PC, cannot bitstream DTS-HD and Dolby True-HD, only DTS.
Kaya nag build ako dedicated HTPC with HD7750 card. Pagkaka alam ko sir 5*** series can bitstream DTS-HD :)

Yun akin, stock video/audio card ng motherboard pero nakaka decode naman ng true HD etc.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 08, 2012 at 06:59 PM
Yun akin, stock video/audio card ng motherboard pero nakaka decode naman ng true HD etc.

buti pa sa iyo sir, sa akin nag re format na ako, tried 32 bit and 64bit, pero wala pa rin, updated naman yung driver.

Nakatipid pa sana ako kung gumana kasi babaklasin ko lang yung isa.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Sep 08, 2012 at 08:38 PM
Im using Sapphire Vapor-X HD 4850 Crossfire to my PC, cannot bitstream DTS-HD and Dolby True-HD, only DTS.
Kaya nag build ako dedicated HTPC with HD7750 card. Pagkaka alam ko sir 5*** series can bitstream DTS-HD :)

That's correct. HD 5000 series supports HDMI 1.3's protected audio path, which allows for worry-free bitstreaming of HD Audio.

Yun akin, stock video/audio card ng motherboard pero nakaka decode naman ng true HD etc.

Newer na kasi PC mo master. Mga panahon kasi ng HD 4000 series, hindi pa uso ang HD Audio capable na outputs sa graphics adapters (whether integrated or dedicated). Gumagamit pa ng ganito madalas to bitstream HD Audio:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-6UAHSm%2BL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 08, 2012 at 09:38 PM
I tried hooking up my PC to receiver using DVI-HDMI adapter, since my 4850 only have 2 DVIs and no HDMI. It worked! May DTS and Dolby nga! Now, I just need a longer hdmi cable.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Sep 08, 2012 at 09:53 PM
I tried hooking up my PC to receiver using DVI-HDMI adapter, since my 4850 only have 2 DVIs and no HDMI. It worked! May DTS and Dolby nga! Now, I just need a longer hdmi cable.

Congrats! Yes, ATi/AMD had built-in HDMI audio since they launched the HD 2000 series.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 08, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Congrats! Yes, ATi/AMD had built-in HDMI audio since they launched the HD 2000 series.

Thanks bro. Buti na lang may nahukay ako na adapter. Ngayon ko lang na realize mayron pa lang free adapter tong video card ko. Hehehe.

Mga sir, okay lang ba if I manually set the channel levels of my receiver to (C - +4.0; L - +2.0; R - +2.0)?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 08, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Thanks bro. Buti na lang may nahukay ako na adapter. Ngayon ko lang na realize mayron pa lang free adapter tong video card ko. Hehehe.

Mga sir, okay lang ba if I manually set the channel levels of my receiver to (C - +4.0; L - +2.0; R - +2.0)?
pwede yan ...pero better na asa negative kesa postive
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Sep 08, 2012 at 11:24 PM
pwede yan ...pero better na asa negative kesa postive
mas mainam na gumamit ng spl meter para pantay
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 10, 2012 at 09:32 PM
Hello po ulit...

I bought a 5-meter HDMI cable kanina and connected it via DVI-HDMI adapter from PC to receiver...
I can get the 8 max. number of channels IF I connect it to the BD (Bluray) HDMI port... Pero pag sa ibang HDMI port ko i-connect, 2 channels (stereo) lang po ma detect nya..

I went to MCACC setup and checked if meron ba akong ma experiment dun... Wala po akong nakitang workaround. Please help po ulit..

Thanks mga sir.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Sep 10, 2012 at 09:55 PM
Hello po ulit...

I bought a 5-meter HDMI cable kanina and connected it via DVI-HDMI adapter from PC to receiver...
I can get the 8 max. number of channels IF I connect it to the BD (Bluray) HDMI port... Pero pag sa ibang HDMI port ko i-connect, 2 channels (stereo) lang po ma detect nya..

I went to MCACC setup and checked if meron ba akong ma experiment dun... Wala po akong nakitang workaround. Please help po ulit..

Thanks mga sir.
check input settings
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 10, 2012 at 11:13 PM
check input settings

Yung nasa input settings po ay coax and opt lang meron.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Sep 10, 2012 at 11:44 PM
Yung nasa input settings po ay coax and opt lang meron.
signal select yata. try to look for hdmi, signal or input related settings.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Sep 11, 2012 at 03:07 AM
Hello po ulit...

I bought a 5-meter HDMI cable kanina and connected it via DVI-HDMI adapter from PC to receiver...
I can get the 8 max. number of channels IF I connect it to the BD (Bluray) HDMI port... Pero pag sa ibang HDMI port ko i-connect, 2 channels (stereo) lang po ma detect nya..

I went to MCACC setup and checked if meron ba akong ma experiment dun... Wala po akong nakitang workaround. Please help po ulit..

Thanks mga sir.

It's likely how your PC is setup. Are you bitstreaming AC3 or DTS?

Turn on your AVR before turning on your PC, just to be sure. Once the PC detects the AVR's supported formats, then you're free to adjust the PC's settings.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 11, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Thanks mga sir. It worked. I dunno which one fixed it. The SIGNAL SEL or the booting process. Haha. Basta it worked.. It's in my HDMI1 na.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: lord_dracula on Sep 15, 2012 at 11:39 AM
What speaker brands work well with Pioneer AVRs?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Sep 19, 2012 at 08:28 PM
Thanks mga sir. It worked. I dunno which one fixed it. The SIGNAL SEL or the booting process. Haha. Basta it worked.. It's in my HDMI1 na.
kung gamit mo windows7 ganyan talaga..last on ang pc para madetect lahat ng input sa reciever tv/ampli
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:35 PM
Available ba sa Pinas ang vx-s300 slim receiver?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 05, 2012 at 08:32 PM
What speaker brands work well with Pioneer AVRs?

pasali na rin..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Oct 05, 2012 at 09:03 PM
My VSX-1021 works very well with Wharfedale 9.1 (That's the only speaker I have. LOL).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 06, 2012 at 02:26 AM
I've paired my with Klipsch na reference/wharfedale Modus and Polk RTi.  All of which were good pairings with different behaviors though.  The Wharfedale was warm to laidback, found it best for crooner music (Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr.)  The RTi's had a more forward behavior, best with strings (Piano,guitars, violins) the Klipsch was a bit bright (which I prefer slightly over the RTi) to neutral sounding best with vocals ( audiophile voices - both male and female).  I've listened to a B&W 6 series and Pioneer combo too, best of all that I mentioned but I dont own one so no extended listening for me with the B&W brand.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 06, 2012 at 04:18 AM
What speaker brands work we

ll with Pioneer AVRs?

wharf has a good synergy with pio
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 06, 2012 at 04:42 AM
wharf has a good synergy with pio
Ot..
aba gising ka pa!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 06, 2012 at 04:43 AM
Ot..
aba gising ka pa!
aga ko natulog .....naghahanap ng pio receiver haha....jk
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 06, 2012 at 06:39 AM
aga ko natulog .....naghahanap ng pio receiver haha....jk

Maganda yun ice powered or direct energy module ng mga Elite. Bagay sa iyo.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 06, 2012 at 06:42 AM
Maganda yun ice powered or direct energy module ng mga Elite. Bagay sa iyo.

eh ang ganda rin ng presyo Master! mauuwi sa ice tubig ang ipapakain ko sa pamilya ko. lol
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 06, 2012 at 06:47 AM
eh ang ganda rin ng presyo Master! mauuwi sa ice tubig ang ipapakain ko sa pamilya ko. lol

Peanuts lang yan kay Derick!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Oct 06, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Hi gurus...

I have vsx 521, there are times na gusto ko off ang avr pag cartoons lang ang pinapanood. And so I did the HDMI pass through.

Kaso pag pinapatay ko  or standby ang avr, nawawalan ng signal.

Ganon ba talaga? or may work around?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 09, 2012 at 09:50 AM
Hi gurus...

I have vsx 521, there are times na gusto ko off ang avr pag cartoons lang ang pinapanood. And so I did the HDMI pass through.

Kaso pag pinapatay ko  or standby ang avr, nawawalan ng signal.

Ganon ba talaga? or may work around?

baka walang standby passthrough yung vsx 521. the vsx 521 does have standby pass through.
 Naka activate ba yung hdmi CEC ng receiver?   check that.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Oloap on Oct 09, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Question:

Is the lower Elite models better than the VSX higher models?

The price of pioneer avrs is tempting.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Oct 09, 2012 at 01:23 PM
baka walang standby passthrough yung vsx 521. the vsx 521 does have standby pass through.
 Naka activate ba yung hdmi CEC ng receiver?   check that.
Thanks sir.

Been reading the manual and di ko makita kung saan yung CEC.

Saan po ko siya makikita?

Forgot to mention that im using an htpc
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 09, 2012 at 03:30 PM
Thanks sir.

Been reading the manual and di ko makita kung saan yung CEC.

Saan po ko siya makikita?

Forgot to mention that im using an htpc


Baka hindi nadedetect ng PC mo yun AVR kasi naka-off.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 09, 2012 at 04:06 PM
Its listed as hdmi control or kuro link,(for older units).  You have to connect the composite cable to access the vsx 521 menu. From there you have to find the hdmi settings menu it should be there.
Minsan nagkakaproblema din if one of your devices does not have cec.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 09, 2012 at 04:16 PM
Question:

Is the lower Elite models better than the VSX higher models?

The price of pioneer avrs is tempting.

lower elite models and vsx 1122 are almost the same. they just have longer warranties, a few extra hdm's and more legacy inputs.
vsx 60:
Power Output: Watts per Channel    90 x 7 (20 Hz - 20 kHz)
vsx 1122:
Power Output Per Channel(20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm)    90

It gets better when you buy SC models cause they use the better d3 amps. d3 amps run cooler than the regular ones.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 09, 2012 at 05:33 PM
lower elite models and vsx 1122 are almost the same. they just have longer warranties, a few extra hdm's and more legacy inputs.
vsx 60:
Power Output: Watts per Channel    90 x 7 (20 Hz - 20 kHz)
vsx 1122:
Power Output Per Channel(20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm)    90

It gets better when you buy SC models cause they use the better d3 amps. d3 amps run cooler than the regular ones.


Yeah. Direct energy class D. Some old model came with ICEpower.

edited: late to old.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Oct 09, 2012 at 05:34 PM
Its listed as hdmi control or kuro link,(for older units).  You have to connect the composite cable to access the vsx 521 menu. From there you have to find the hdmi settings menu it should be there.
Minsan nagkakaproblema din if one of your devices does not have cec.

Been there sir, nakita ko lang options are HDMI control saka yung ARC.

May posibility siguro na tama sinabi ni Nelson. Havent tried on BD yet since wala pa ako player.

Siguro best option is an HDMI switcher?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 09, 2012 at 06:09 PM

Siguro best option is an HDMI switcher?

Isang HDMI switcher for your choice of source (receiver or HTPC), and an HDMI splitter, to split the signal from your HTPC to receiver and HDMI switcher to monitor.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Oct 09, 2012 at 07:01 PM
di ba nababawasan ang picture/sound quality pag ginamitan ng splitter/switcher?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM
Yeah. Direct energy class D. Some late model came with ICEpower.
The new pioneer amps use own amp design. hometheater say the newer d3 amps are better then the older ice ones.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 10, 2012 at 07:24 AM
The new pioneer amps use own amp design. hometheater say the newer d3 amps are better then the older ice ones.

My bad. I mean yun old model ang naka ICE. Kaya lang tumaas ata ang price ng mga Elite.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rochie on Oct 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM
di ba nababawasan ang picture/sound quality pag ginamitan ng splitter/switcher?


 i tried HDMI splitter for my sony bd player and noticeable PQ difference pag dumaan sa receiver at hindi, if the video signal pass through the receiver less noise and contrast is good pero pag gumamit ako ng splitter, the video from bd player direct to tv is somewhat lacks a little bit of contrast and a bit noisy, even if the audio is DTS-MA  the receiver only detect it as DTS. btw im using the monoprice HDMI splitter w/ external power.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM
Guys,

Anong difference ng Pioneer SC-LX86 and Pioneer Elite SC-68?
Same lang ba sila but different region(market)?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 10, 2012 at 05:22 PM
Guys,

Anong difference ng Pioneer SC-LX86 and Pioneer Elite SC-68?
Same lang ba sila but different region(market)?

Thanks :)

same model, 220v and 110v different region. its confusing and pioneer has been doing this for very long time.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 10, 2012 at 05:28 PM
same model, 220v and 110v different region. its confusing and pioneer has been doing this for very long time.

I see. Thanks bro :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 10, 2012 at 06:24 PM
np
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 10, 2012 at 06:59 PM
Guys,

Anong difference ng Pioneer SC-LX86 and Pioneer Elite SC-68?
Same lang ba sila but different region(market)?

Thanks :)
huli ka ...nangingibang bahay ka ah hehehe...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 11, 2012 at 11:08 AM
huli ka ...nangingibang bahay ka ah hehehe...

Nagtatanong lang sis. May umaawit kasi sa Denon ko sa magandang presyo eh... Mukhang maganda itong Pioneer Elite na kapalit kung sakali ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 11, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Nagtatanong lang sis. May umaawit kasi sa Denon ko sa magandang presyo eh... Mukhang maganda itong Pioneer Elite na kapalit kung sakali ;D

Get the model with the direct energy amp. Hindi ata lahat ng elite naka direct energy eh.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mc03_12 on Oct 11, 2012 at 11:28 AM
mga sir. makikisingit lang.

maganda ba ang performance ng vsx-921?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 11, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Nagtatanong lang sis. May umaawit kasi sa Denon ko sa magandang presyo eh... Mukhang maganda itong Pioneer Elite na kapalit kung sakali ;D
in my opinion, you should have kept the denon 4311. its the most recommended flag ship receiver in AVS forums due to the useful room correction Audyssey 32xt. The 4311 is really king of the receiver I doubt the lx 86 will be significantly better than the 4311. Not really sure what you get from switching from pioneer well except for the usb DAC and 4k.
The big improvement go separates na lang like cary cinema 12, anthem d2v and marantz pre pro if they still here. medyo mahal lang.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 11, 2012 at 12:03 PM
mga sir. makikisingit lang.

maganda ba ang performance ng vsx-921?
okay lang yung 921 for a basic setup.
 Spend a little more to get the denon 1912
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 11, 2012 at 12:08 PM
mga sir. makikisingit lang.

maganda ba ang performance ng vsx-921?

Yes, its good enough.  But if you have powerful Fs's baka mabitin ka sa 75wpc @ 2 channels driven.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mc03_12 on Oct 11, 2012 at 01:19 PM
okay lang yung 921 for a basic setup.
 Spend a little more to get the denon 1912

sir simple lang nmn ang set up ko eh. nag aatay na ksi ng receiver ung speaker ko. jamo 406.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 11, 2012 at 01:36 PM
 When it comes to entry level models, the differences aren't that big. just check the features of the receiver you need, it shouldn't be a problem.
you'll be fine with the 921
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 17, 2012 at 01:49 AM
mga sir how about the 521? masyado na ba tong mababa?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 17, 2012 at 02:25 AM
mga sir how about the 521? masyado na ba tong mababa?

the 521 and 921 are similar.

521 = 5.1 ch
921 = 7.1 ch
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 17, 2012 at 04:00 AM
Ok lang ba i-pair ang 521 to let's say..the MS Carnival series? Will it blend well?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 17, 2012 at 04:49 AM
Ok lang ba i-pair ang 521 to let's say..the MS Carnival series? Will it blend well?

Its best to audition it really, sound is very subjective and there is plenty preference involved, i have listened to it and i found the combo to be lacking in bass and mids. I used audiophile voices as test cd, volume 1.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Its best to audition it really, sound is very subjective and there is plenty preference involved, i have listened to it and i found the combo to be lacking in bass and mids. I used audiophile voices as test cd, volume 1.
ive read about the 521 lacking bass. It was design with a subwoofer.
try setting the speakers to large might give it more bass.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:25 AM
ive read about the 521 lacking bass. It was design with a subwoofer.
try setting the speakers to large might give it more bass.

Lahat naman ata sir ng receivers, are designed with a subwoofer. And yes, setting it to large will definitely improve the bass, so long as kaya ng built-in amp i-drive yun speakers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 17, 2012 at 11:17 AM
ive read about the 521 lacking bass. It was design with a subwoofer.
try setting the speakers to large might give it more bass.
tama po kayo, the large setting will help, but if you have a sub, masmaganda ang small with abt 50 or 60 hz na xover setting para may overlap ang bass, imho, it sounds more full. Pero as mentioned, may preference talaga kaya magandang magtweak here and there.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 17, 2012 at 05:26 PM
May mga nakarinig or nakagamit na ba sa inyo mga bros ng Pioneer LX85 / LX86 or the Elite counterparts? :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 17, 2012 at 05:33 PM
May mga nakarinig or nakagamit na ba sa inyo mga bros ng Pioneer LX85 / LX86 or the Elite counterparts? :)

Brader hindi ka pa ba masaya sa 4311? BIgay mo na lang sa akin he he he
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 17, 2012 at 05:44 PM
Brader hindi ka pa ba masaya sa 4311? BIgay mo na lang sa akin he he he

Bakit tuwing magtatanong ako ang interpretation magpapalit na agad ako...? ;D O0 >:D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 17, 2012 at 06:16 PM
May mga nakarinig or nakagamit na ba sa inyo mga bros ng Pioneer LX85 / LX86 or the Elite counterparts? :)
here. may naka-display na lx86 sa listening room megamall.
yes ive asked pwede i demo.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 17, 2012 at 07:17 PM
Bakit tuwing magtatanong ako ang interpretation magpapalit na agad ako...? ;D O0 >:D

Eh nagtatanong ka din sa Onkyo thread eh he he he

Isa pa ikaw ang hari nang palit he he he wait Reyna pala he he he
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 17, 2012 at 07:58 PM
Eh nagtatanong ka din sa Onkyo thread eh he he he

Isa pa ikaw ang hari nang palit he he he wait Reyna pala he he he

Loka!!! Hehehe...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 17, 2012 at 07:59 PM
here. may naka-display na lx86 sa listening room megamall.
yes ive asked pwede i demo.

Thanks sa info. Buti pwede idemo coz last sunday when i inquired LX56 lang daw pwede idemo...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 17, 2012 at 08:50 PM
Thanks sa info. Buti pwede idemo coz last sunday when i inquired LX56 lang daw pwede idemo...

Na demo ko yang LX56 sa Listening Room brader.. panalo yang receiver na yan.. eh di lalo na yung Soon to have elite mo... Elite din dapat bibilhin ko dati kaso di kaya nang budget..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 17, 2012 at 08:51 PM
Na demo ko yang LX56 sa Listening Room brader.. panalo yang receiver na yan.. eh di lalo na yung Soon to have elite mo... Elite din dapat bibilhin ko dati kaso di kaya nang budget..

Naku baka next year na yan brader...
May ibang naka line up ngayong taon eh :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 17, 2012 at 08:52 PM
Naku baka next year na yan brader...
May ibang naka line up ngayong taon eh :)

Mukang mahaba ang line up ah he he he
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 17, 2012 at 08:56 PM
Mukang mahaba ang line up ah he he he

Oo brader, non HT/audio related nga lang, hehehe :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 17, 2012 at 09:09 PM
Oo brader, non HT/audio related nga lang, hehehe :D

Hmmmmmm he he he..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 17, 2012 at 09:55 PM
Oo brader, non HT/audio related nga lang, hehehe :D
sinabi mo na yan dati...ang bagsak audio pa rin ;)
or may segway sa audio ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:05 PM
sinabi mo na yan dati...ang bagsak audio pa rin ;)
or may segway sa audio ;D

Uy wala akong sinabing ganyan brader ha. Deretchahan ako kung bibili ako Pioneer :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Uy wala akong sinabing ganyan brader ha. Deretchahan ako kung bibili ako Pioneer :D
you mean settle ka na sa pio?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:17 PM
you mean settle ka na sa pio?

Walang pambili ng pio sis :(
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: DTNS on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:24 PM
Walang pambili ng pio sis :(

si donya louela, walang pambili? o comon!  :o :P
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Walang pambili ng pio sis :(
weh
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 17, 2012 at 10:49 PM
weh

Oo sis... Seryoso. Sa iba napunta budget
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 17, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Oo sis... Seryoso. Sa iba napunta budget
bebot ???
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Oct 19, 2012 at 12:09 AM
Mga sir, okay lang po ba na ALWAYS gamitin yung AV Receiver kahit nag computer lang? I always use my TV kasi and not my monitor. Hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 19, 2012 at 06:29 AM
Mga sir, okay lang po ba na ALWAYS gamitin yung AV Receiver kahit nag computer lang? I always use my TV kasi and not my monitor. Hehehe

As long as there is proper ventilation...yes.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Oct 19, 2012 at 07:09 AM
Mga sir, okay lang po ba na ALWAYS gamitin yung AV Receiver kahit nag computer lang? I always use my TV kasi and not my monitor. Hehehe

That's what I do.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 19, 2012 at 04:58 PM
Mga sir, okay lang po ba na ALWAYS gamitin yung AV Receiver kahit nag computer lang? I always use my TV kasi and not my monitor. Hehehe

kaya tayo bumili nang ating pinakaiingatang receiver eh para magamit palagi at hindi maging display...

First thing i do as soon as i get home...

Turn on receiver
Turn other AV equipments
Lie in bed then relax until makatulog
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Oct 20, 2012 at 09:43 AM
Heheheh thanks mga sir. 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 21, 2012 at 09:43 AM
heads up
saw the pio 519 on sale for 7999 in listening room. until today lang.
edit: also the 819 and the lx53 back in stock.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: _kamatis on Oct 22, 2012 at 06:03 PM
ano kailangan kong pang connect sa Sub woofer?
bumili ako ng banana plug di ko pala kailangan sayang 8 pcs pa binili ko  >:D

yung Receiver ko is Pio 521K mura lang eh. 9990 lang..  ;D
balak ko bilhin is PSW110 anong bibilhin kong pang connect sa receiver?  O0 ::)

uber noob eh.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 22, 2012 at 06:05 PM
ano kailangan kong pang connect sa Sub woofer?
bumili ako ng banana plug di ko pala kailangan sayang 8 pcs pa binili ko  >:D

yung Receiver ko is Pio 521K mura lang eh. 9990 lang..  ;D
balak ko bilhin is PSW110 anong bibilhin kong pang connect sa receiver?  O0 ::)

uber noob eh.

You need to buy an RCA coaxial cable or pagawa ka kay paolorenzo.. all of my interconnects are made by him.. High quality and cheap..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 22, 2012 at 09:42 PM
ano kailangan kong pang connect sa Sub woofer?
bumili ako ng banana plug di ko pala kailangan sayang 8 pcs pa binili ko  >:D

yung Receiver ko is Pio 521K mura lang eh. 9990 lang..  ;D
balak ko bilhin is PSW110 anong bibilhin kong pang connect sa receiver?  O0 ::)

uber noob eh.
bilhin ko nalang hehe...
anung brand nyang plugs mo?
psw110 ? bitin yan...hanap ka ng 12 inch
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 22, 2012 at 09:47 PM
bilhin ko nalang hehe...
anung brand nyang plugs mo?
psw110 ? bitin yan...hanap ka ng 12 inch

Ha ha ha.. Mangkukulam ha ha ha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 22, 2012 at 09:51 PM
Ha ha ha.. Mangkukulam ha ha ha

kaya naman ng pio 521 ung inch sub kasi active hehe..
klipsch nalang baka mabitin sya sa psw125 hihihi
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 22, 2012 at 11:00 PM
kaya naman ng pio 521 ung inch sub kasi active hehe..
klipsch nalang baka mabitin sya sa psw125 hihihi

He he he... pwede..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 22, 2012 at 11:58 PM
yung klipsh ni courage maganda yun na  lang awitan mo ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: _kamatis on Oct 23, 2012 at 03:00 PM
grabe ang kulam dito..

I am torn with SW-350 or PSW125 na lang..

pano pala yung naka on pa din yung receiver ko pero off na yung TV, gusto ko lang makinig ng music,
kasi pag nituturnoff ko na yung TV, pati yung Receiver naooff din, hahaha.. parang tanga lang.

HTPC (kinabit ko sa Video in) -> Receiver -> TV
PS3 (Kinabit ko sa DVD in) -> Receiver -> TV
bakit ganun? kailangan ba pag makikinig naka on din yung tv? pangit naman hahaha.. or di lang ako marunong.. paturo nga mga master.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 23, 2012 at 03:08 PM
grabe ang kulam dito..

I am torn with SW-350 or PSW125 na lang..

pano pala yung naka on pa din yung receiver ko pero off na yung TV, gusto ko lang makinig ng music,
kasi pag nituturnoff ko na yung TV, pati yung Receiver naooff din, hahaha.. parang tanga lang.

HTPC (kinabit ko sa Video in) -> Receiver -> TV
PS3 (Kinabit ko sa DVD in) -> Receiver -> TV
bakit ganun? kailangan ba pag makikinig naka on din yung tv? pangit naman hahaha.. or di lang ako marunong.. paturo nga mga master.

May setting dyan sa HDMI... i guess naka on ang HDMI control mo... Just turn it off
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mc03_12 on Oct 23, 2012 at 03:20 PM
magtatanong lang po.

bumili kasi ako last friday ng vsx-819 sa listening room sa megamall.

may mga user po ba ng katulad nung sakin?
any issue na na encounter nyo with 819?

kinabit ko sya sa jamo 406 so far godd nmn ang performance para sakin,.hehehe

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 23, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Imho pioneers are built to last
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: _kamatis on Oct 23, 2012 at 04:11 PM
@mc03_12
10k lang din yan diba? yan dapat kukunin ko eh, kaso walang 3d. =)
ayaw ko na ng 110v di maganda pag nakasaksak sa AVR.

san makikita yung HDMI control? wala kasing GUI sa tv eh, di ko alam kalikutin.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 23, 2012 at 04:34 PM
Home menu then select system set up then hdmi set up, may choice po na yes or no.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: _kamatis on Oct 23, 2012 at 06:26 PM
@Timithekid

salamat, try ko po mamaya pag uwi ko.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mc03_12 on Oct 24, 2012 at 08:39 AM
@_kamatis
di ko pa nga gnong nakakalikot.hehehe di ko pa kabisado.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mc03_12 on Oct 24, 2012 at 09:02 AM
mag sir tanong ko lang. pano ang gagawin kong connection para kung ang video source ko ay 3d papunta sa Receiver ko to 3D tv. ung receiver ko hindi 3d capable.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 24, 2012 at 09:22 AM
mag sir tanong ko lang. pano ang gagawin kong connection para kung ang video source ko ay 3d papunta sa Receiver ko to 3D tv. ung receiver ko hindi 3d capable.
try mo as is muna.kung hindi mag work out try to use hdmi spliter
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 24, 2012 at 09:48 AM
mag sir tanong ko lang. pano ang gagawin kong connection para kung ang video source ko ay 3d papunta sa Receiver ko to 3D tv. ung receiver ko hindi 3d capable.
try mo as is muna.kung hindi mag work out try to use hdmi spliter

Or try mo i-bypass receiver (video side) by connecting your 3D source via HDMI directly to your TV. Then you can connect your source (audio side) via digital spdif to your receiver. Ang catch lang ata dito, hindi mo ma-achieve ang hd audio via spdif.

Question, ang mga HDMI splitters, di ba may versions din ito like HDMI v3 etc. So kung ang splitter is HDMI v3 only, hindi siya mag pass ng 3D and HD audio.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mc03_12 on Oct 24, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Or try mo i-bypass receiver (video side) by connecting your 3D source via HDMI directly to your TV. Then you can connect your source (audio side) via digital spdif to your receiver. Ang catch lang ata dito, hindi mo ma-achieve ang hd audio via spdif.

Question, ang mga HDMI splitters, di ba may versions din ito like HDMI v3 etc. So kung ang splitter is HDMI v3 only, hindi siya mag pass ng 3D and HD audio.

ok thanks mga sir. first set up ko kasi kaya marami pa kong di alam.hehehe. di ko pa nga ganong alam i set up ung 819 ko.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: _kamatis on Oct 24, 2012 at 12:54 PM
kaya ba ito ng receiver?
Pioneer 521k

Current setup is Diamon 10.1 L/R
tapos balak ko bumili ng RTiA4 saka CSia4 (palitan ko yung speaker ko ilagay ko yung luma kay papa - bought last month lang din)

then yung TSi100 saka CS10 is ikakabit ko sa LCR using pioneer 521k
tapos yung Diamon 10.1 gagawin kong rear. kaya ba yun? saka maganda ba yun? iba iba?

or Diretso na lang to Diamond 10.CS tapos 10.SR tapos wag na muna upgrade?

saka isa pang question, sabi daw pede kong gamitin yung banana plug sa Diamond 10.1 saka sa receiver ng L/R sa pioneer.

pano ko gagawin? sa isa ko kasing receiver inipit ko lang din (Onkyo 515)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 24, 2012 at 01:50 PM

tapos balak ko bumili ng RTiA4 saka CSia4 (palitan ko yung speaker ko ilagay ko yung luma kay papa - bought last month lang din)


Sir clarify ko lang po ah, kasi i think you mean RTi A3 - the BS and CSi A4 - Center channel, if your question is simply to drive the speakers then the answer is YES, but mazimize, no because the A'3's are BIG BS speakers that have great capability with powerful amplifiers driving it ( medyo weak pa ang pio 521 or your onkyo 515 for that matter).  the A4, yes your receiver should be enough.


then yung TSi100 saka CS10 is ikakabit ko sa LCR using pioneer 521k
tapos yung Diamon 10.1 gagawin kong rear. kaya ba yun? saka maganda ba yun? iba iba?

ok lang to cross match speakers


or Diretso na lang to Diamond 10.CS tapos 10.SR tapos wag na muna upgrade?


personally, I like speakers to be timbre matched para pareho ang sonic signature, pero kung napakinggan mo naman yung combination ng polk TSi and wharf diamond and you like the sound, ok lang dikn because at the end of the day, ikas ang makikining so dapat IKAW ang happy sa tunog.


saka isa pang question, sabi daw pede kong gamitin yung banana plug sa Diamond 10.1 saka sa receiver ng L/R sa pioneer.

pano ko gagawin? sa isa ko kasing receiver inipit ko lang din (Onkyo 515)

just buy banana plugs (its simple enough that when you see it you will figure out how to connect your speaker wire to it), connect it to your speaker wire and plug it into the binding posts of the receiver and the speakers.  Just remember to remove the small plastic covers for each binding post though. hehe :)

Hope this helps and enjoy your new toy.... O0 until the next upgrade!  >:D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: _kamatis on Oct 24, 2012 at 02:34 PM
natatanggal pala yung takip.  :)

salamat sir Timithekid

pede ko na magamit yung banana plug ko. salamat din sa suggestion. I'll go for Diamond 10 na for tatay's setup. happy pa naman ako sa TSi ko eh. :) uber laki lang ng Diamond 10 kaya ayaw ko makipag palit sa tatay ko.

salamat ulit. :)

one more question.

Subwoofer for 521k
Mirage Omni S8
PSW125/110
Klipsh SW-350

alin ang pede? at kaya idrive ni Pio? :)
budget is 15k max pede din iba.

US Audio kaya mura nun eh. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 24, 2012 at 02:53 PM

Subwoofer for 521k
Mirage Omni S8
PSW125/110
Klipsh SW-350

alin ang pede? at kaya idrive ni Pio? :)
budget is 15k max pede din iba.

US Audio kaya mura nun eh. :)

lahat po nyan kaya idrive nung pio 521 kasi may sariling amp po ang subwoofer, you just need to connect it via rca to the subwoofer preout of the receiver.  as for which is best, by specs its the omni.  pero ang naaudition ko lang is the PSW and the Klipsch so if i were to choose, i'd get the klipsch, but since you have polk TSi's, grab the polk.  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 24, 2012 at 03:22 PM
natatanggal pala yung takip.  :)

salamat sir Timithekid

pede ko na magamit yung banana plug ko. salamat din sa suggestion. I'll go for Diamond 10 na for tatay's setup. happy pa naman ako sa TSi ko eh. :) uber laki lang ng Diamond 10 kaya ayaw ko makipag palit sa tatay ko.

salamat ulit. :)

one more question.

Subwoofer for 521k
Mirage Omni S8
PSW125/110
Klipsh SW-350

alin ang pede? at kaya idrive ni Pio? :)
budget is 15k max pede din iba.

US Audio kaya mura nun eh. :)
Its ok to mix brands but your front 3 must be the same brand. Matching rears will matter with multi channel music and some rare movies.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 24, 2012 at 05:27 PM
natatanggal pala yung takip.  :)

salamat sir Timithekid

pede ko na magamit yung banana plug ko. salamat din sa suggestion. I'll go for Diamond 10 na for tatay's setup. happy pa naman ako sa TSi ko eh. :) uber laki lang ng Diamond 10 kaya ayaw ko makipag palit sa tatay ko.

salamat ulit. :)

one more question.

Subwoofer for 521k
Mirage Omni S8
PSW125/110
Klipsh SW-350

alin ang pede? at kaya idrive ni Pio? :)
budget is 15k max pede din iba.

US Audio kaya mura nun eh. :)
ayan ba pagpipilian mo hehe..
kung psw 125 or 110 lang get the us audio 512
audition mo ung klipsch vs us audio
polk audio more on audio
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 25, 2012 at 10:48 AM
one more thing. the most important thing let your ears decide.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 25, 2012 at 03:24 PM
Last time i checked, hmr is selling rw-12d for 10.9k lang. With this price, you can go dual.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 25, 2012 at 04:14 PM
wow they stil sell
Last time i checked, hmr is selling rw-12d for 10.9k lang. With this price, you can go dual.
wait where??? that's a good deal.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 25, 2012 at 04:17 PM
wow they stil sell wait where??? that's a good deal.


Yeah which hmr?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 25, 2012 at 04:23 PM
wow they stil sell wait where??? that's a good deal.

Hmr pioneer
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 25, 2012 at 04:35 PM
damn that's a sweet deal. I just bought a jamo sub and now i learn this.
 Never been too hmr. so whats it like?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 25, 2012 at 04:45 PM
kaya ba ito ng receiver?
Pioneer 521k

Current setup is Diamon 10.1 L/R
tapos balak ko bumili ng RTiA4 saka CSia4 (palitan ko yung speaker ko ilagay ko yung luma kay papa - bought last month lang din)

then yung TSi100 saka CS10 is ikakabit ko sa LCR using pioneer 521k
tapos yung Diamon 10.1 gagawin kong rear. kaya ba yun? saka maganda ba yun? iba iba?

or Diretso na lang to Diamond 10.CS tapos 10.SR tapos wag na muna upgrade?

saka isa pang question, sabi daw pede kong gamitin yung banana plug sa Diamond 10.1 saka sa receiver ng L/R sa pioneer.

pano ko gagawin? sa isa ko kasing receiver inipit ko lang din (Onkyo 515)

upgrade lang kung kaya hehehe....
madale naman idrive ung rti a3 and csi a4
no sweat hehe... huwag lang LSI hihihihi
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 25, 2012 at 05:03 PM
Few units left look for Rodel.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: _kamatis on Oct 25, 2012 at 05:04 PM
wag ka na pong mangulam hahaha..
naka set na po yung Diamond po eh. bibili na nga po ako ng pang wall mount po mamaya para sa Diamond ni papa eh. =P

parang wala sa mood lang yung nakausap ko pong babae dun sa listening room po. busy ata po.
may pinpoint wall mount kaya sa Sight and Sound?

mahina pala ang US Audio bitin, PSW110 na lang siguro. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 25, 2012 at 05:19 PM
Naku pag narinig mo ito, di ka magsisisi. Si courage eto gamit naka dual pa.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 25, 2012 at 05:49 PM
Naku pag narinig mo ito, di ka magsisisi. Si courage eto gamit naka dual pa.

Ha ha ha... Actually isa lang ginagamit ko kasi yung isa sobra sobra na eh... Salitan na lang sila... Pero pag may bagong Blockbuster movie.. dalawa silang gumagana he he he
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: defined on Oct 25, 2012 at 08:28 PM
sir san po yun Hmr pioneer?thx
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 25, 2012 at 11:01 PM
wag ka na pong mangulam hahaha..
naka set na po yung Diamond po eh. bibili na nga po ako ng pang wall mount po mamaya para sa Diamond ni papa eh. =P

parang wala sa mood lang yung nakausap ko pong babae dun sa listening room po. busy ata po.
may pinpoint wall mount kaya sa Sight and Sound?

mahina pala ang US Audio bitin, PSW110 na lang siguro. :)

ganyan din ako nangaling sa diamond hehe for keeps ung rtia hehe
us audio bitin? anung us audio yan?
psw125 bitin nga ako e...kaya binenta ko iniwan ko ung us audio 512
papalit ako siguro svs hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 26, 2012 at 04:13 AM
sir san po yun Hmr pioneer?thx
wait mo dito sa MP lalabas yan :P
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: _kamatis on Oct 26, 2012 at 08:27 AM
@raider125jeigh
wala pong tunog.. kailangan todo po yung volume para lang marinig po.. ewan ko ba? pero mukhang maganda yung sa HMR ah.. yung RW-12D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:19 AM
@raider125jeigh
wala pong tunog.. kailangan todo po yung volume para lang marinig po.. ewan ko ba? pero mukhang maganda yung sa HMR ah.. yung RW-12D
haha...baka defective un... gang 9-10 o clock nga lang ako...mawawasak na ung bahay hehe...
Pioneer din ba ung receiver na ginamit? ilang DB?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:23 AM
sir san po yun Hmr pioneer?thx
Naku. Di ako magaling magbigay n direction. Hehehehe....use google map na lang sir
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:27 AM
@raider125jeigh
wala pong tunog.. kailangan todo po yung volume para lang marinig po.. ewan ko ba? pero mukhang maganda yung sa HMR ah.. yung RW-12D
Di lang mukhang mas maganda....maganda talaga.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rochie on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:34 AM
@raider125jeigh
wala pong tunog.. kailangan todo po yung volume para lang marinig po.. ewan ko ba? pero mukhang maganda yung sa HMR ah.. yung RW-12D
sir na calibrate nyo na po ba setup nyo?ganyan sa akin nung una mahina sub ,after ko icalibrate nasa -6db settIngs na yung sub ko at yuNG GAIN NG sub ko 8oclock position na lang,btw im using pilyo ampq and pioneer 12inch Driver
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 26, 2012 at 10:19 AM
I Found hmr on google maps. I guess ill drop by and examine it
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 26, 2012 at 10:21 AM
I'll check out hmr sucat, sana may maganda
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Oct 26, 2012 at 05:44 PM
wait... one question do the klipsh subs come with warranty?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 26, 2012 at 08:59 PM
Hmr sucat has the klipsch sub @14,900. Mura parin but some of the units are in pretty bad shape.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:23 PM
Hmr sucat has the klipsch sub @14,900. Mura parin but some of the units are in pretty bad shape.

Anong Model nang klipsch yan bro?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:25 PM
Anong Model nang klipsch yan bro?

Rw 12d.  Mga 4 units yung nakita ko tapos meron pang 3 na defective, ipapaayos pa daw
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:26 PM
Rw 12d.  Mga 4 units yung nakita ko tapos meron pang 3 na defective, ipapaayos pa daw

Yan ba yung may control sa top nang sub, may LCD display?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:32 PM
Yan ba yung may control sa top nang sub, may LCD display?

Yes po sir jason, kaso hindi ko napatest kasi medyo masikip kanina. 12in 350w
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:36 PM
Yes po sir jason, kaso hindi ko napatest kasi medyo masikip kanina. 12in 350w

Napaka gandang sub nyan... I know kasi yan ang sub ko he he he
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:39 PM
Napaka gandang sub nyan... I know kasi yan ang sub ko he he he

Tempting ang price..but it looks really worn out! Kung hindi lang maraming tao tinest ko na at kinuha ko eh.  Twins pa yung sa inyo sir eh, hehe.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 26, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Napaka gandang sub nyan... I know kasi yan ang sub ko he he he

Makapag masid masid nga sa hmr sucat bukas :D
Nilalakad ko lang yan eh, hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 26, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Napaka gandang sub nyan... I know kasi yan ang sub ko he he he
yup its a rw-12d sub bro. tempting bumili kaso pareho tayo naka dalawa na but separate set-up.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Oct 26, 2012 at 10:48 PM
yup its a rw-12d sub bro. tempting bumili kaso pareho tayo naka dalawa na but separate set-up.

Wow di ba sabi mo nasa 11k lang? Steal price yun kung matino pa itsura...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 26, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Wow di ba sabi mo nasa 11k lang? Steal price yun kung matino pa itsura...
yup. matino pa. may mga maliit na dings lang pero buo pa yung sound.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: _kamatis on Oct 27, 2012 at 12:11 AM
maganda ng yung Klipsh.. kaso nakakatakot mag invest baka masira agad..
pero maganda talaga.. gusto ko Klipsh.. magkano ba yun pag brand new?

ang ganda talaga ng Klipsh hahaha..

@raider125jeigh
521k Pioneer gamit namin.. mag try pa nga ako iba. mura kasi US Audio. pero add na lang ng 3k Klipsh RW-12D na.. ang ganda super hahaha.. kaso HMR. :(

@rochie
hindi pa po eh, di nga po ako marunong mag calibrate eh.. :(
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 27, 2012 at 03:27 AM
yup. matino pa. may mga maliit na dings lang pero buo pa yung sound.

I wonder why magkaiba price nito, HMR sucar pegged it at 14.9.  then HMR pioneer has it at 10.9? deym! 4k din yon ah!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 27, 2012 at 04:06 AM
I wonder why magkaiba price nito, HMR sucar pegged it at 14.9.  then HMR pioneer has it at 10.9? deym! 3k din yon ah!
baka may taga pdvd sa HMR sucat ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 27, 2012 at 08:09 AM
I wonder why magkaiba price nito, HMR sucar pegged it at 14.9.  then HMR pioneer has it at 10.9? deym! 4k din yon ah!

it started with that price
Rodel texted me when that sub arrived and then he texted me again na bumaba na sa 10.9k after 2weeks ata..

pinapahanap ko before kay rodel was the pio 1021 at 13.9k price kaya lang walang available naubos lage ng mga mabilis bumili ahaa....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 27, 2012 at 09:30 AM
it started with that price
Rodel texted me when that sub arrived and then he texted me again na bumaba na sa 10.9k after 2weeks ata..

pinapahanap ko before kay rodel was the pio 1021 at 13.9k price kaya lang walang available naubos lage ng mga mabilis bumili ahaa....

pareho rin pala tayo ng contact. wala pa rin daw dumating na 1021. and yes, pina pakyaw daw talaga at binibenta ng mas mataas.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 27, 2012 at 09:35 AM
pareho rin pala tayo ng contact. wala pa rin daw dumating na 1021. and yes, pina pakyaw daw talaga at binibenta ng mas mataas.
wala pa nga hehe.. kaya brader kumuha na ako ng onkyo 805
nagkaroon na ako ng 1021
gusto daw kasi ni misis ung ganun daw ulit hehe...

daming pioneer products dun before pero may mga humahakot hehe..
everytime may bago masipag magtext un hehe..
kaya kapag nabasa na agad ng iba na malalim bulsa getlakin na agad hehe.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Oct 28, 2012 at 11:29 PM
wala pa nga hehe.. kaya brader kumuha na ako ng onkyo 805
nagkaroon na ako ng 1021
gusto daw kasi ni misis ung ganun daw ulit hehe...

daming pioneer products dun before pero may mga humahakot hehe..
everytime may bago masipag magtext un hehe..
kaya kapag nabasa na agad ng iba na malalim bulsa getlakin na agad hehe.
Oo nga sipag mag txt. Hehehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Oct 28, 2012 at 11:49 PM
Mga sir! Question po.

Maka decode po ba ng AAC 5.1 yung vsx1021 without downmixing it to Stereo? Kasi pag AAC 5.1 yung source ko, stereo lang yung ma output nya. Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 29, 2012 at 12:45 AM
Mga sir! Question po.

Maka decode po ba ng AAC 5.1 yung vsx1021 without downmixing it to Stereo? Kasi pag AAC 5.1 yung source ko, stereo lang yung ma output nya. Thanks
havent had a chance regarding this...is set to all 5channels mo nalang hehe...JK...
anung file ba yan...better stay away sa aac hihihi....dtshd ma and dd tru hd is the best JK
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 29, 2012 at 03:08 AM
Mga sir! Question po.

Maka decode po ba ng AAC 5.1 yung vsx1021 without downmixing it to Stereo? Kasi pag AAC 5.1 yung source ko, stereo lang yung ma output nya. Thanks
you mean stereo as 2.0?
meaning hindi talaga sya 5.1 output ng source mo
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 29, 2012 at 03:42 AM
you mean stereo as 2.0?
meaning hindi talaga sya 5.1 output ng source mo

aac 5.1 daw ung audio nung FILE nya
pero dinedecode lang ng receiver as stereo
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Oct 29, 2012 at 03:50 AM
aac 5.1 daw ung audio nung FILE nya
pero dinedecode lang ng receiver as stereo
kaya nga.
hindi talaga sya 5.1...2.0 lang
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Oct 29, 2012 at 06:24 AM
Hahaha. Naka download kasi ako ng Mongol (2007). Wala nang ibang torrent na healthy. If Dobly, [)(] Digital, if dts, DTS. Pero pag AAC lang, STEREO lang makita. :(

Sa XBMC kasi pag check ko sa info, AAC 5.1 nakalagay. Tapos 6 Channels rin yung file properties nya sa Windows. I-set ko na lang ng Dolby Pro Logic 2 Movie yung receiver ko.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rthirtyfourgtr on Oct 29, 2012 at 07:02 AM
^ are you using audio out via HDMI? if yes, try setting your PC with default output format of 5.1 PCM. Dolby and DTS formats should still bitstream (with the appropriate software/config), while other formats like 5.1 AAC/FLAC/etc. will be decoded by the PC and passed-on to the receiver as 5.1 PCM
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 29, 2012 at 07:26 AM
Hahaha. Naka download kasi ako ng Mongol (2007). Wala nang ibang torrent na healthy. If Dobly, [)(] Digital, if dts, DTS. Pero pag AAC lang, STEREO lang makita. :(

Sa XBMC kasi pag check ko sa info, AAC 5.1 nakalagay. Tapos 6 Channels rin yung file properties nya sa Windows. I-set ko na lang ng Dolby Pro Logic 2 Movie yung receiver ko.
may built in decoder ba ung xmbc?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Oct 30, 2012 at 12:04 AM
^ are you using audio out via HDMI? if yes, try setting your PC with default output format of 5.1 PCM. Dolby and DTS formats should still bitstream (with the appropriate software/config), while other formats like 5.1 AAC/FLAC/etc. will be decoded by the PC and passed-on to the receiver as 5.1 PCM

Yes sir. I'm using my HD4850 (DVI-HDMI adapter). Dolby and DTS are okay, except this AAC 5.1. How can I set it up? Is it in the Sound settings then Right Click on the AMD High def and choose Configure Speakers? Then set it to 5.1 Surround?

may built in decoder ba ung xmbc?

I'm not sure.. Pano po ba malalaman yan? Hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rthirtyfourgtr on Oct 30, 2012 at 03:31 AM
Yes sir. I'm using my HD4850 (DVI-HDMI adapter). Dolby and DTS are okay, except this AAC 5.1. How can I set it up? Is it in the Sound settings then Right Click on the AMD High def and choose Configure Speakers? Then set it to 5.1 Surround?

yes, you need to configure Playback Devices and set the speakers to 5.1

this is what works for me on a laptop with intel hd graphics connected to onkyo receivers:
1. right-click the Volume icon on the System Tray, select Playback Devices
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/3/30/942381/step1.png)

2. you'll see a list of devices, one of those would refer to the a/v receiver connected via HDMI
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/3/30/942381/step2.png)

3. select that device and click Configure. this would let you the type of speaker setup that you currently have.
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/3/30/942381/step3.png)

take note that 5.1 may have two options: 5.1 Surround L/R or 5.1 Surround Back L/R; just try out which one would work for you.

also, when you set it up this way 2.0 PCM audio would also be sent as a 5.1 PCM stream (center + surrounds + LFE channel won't carry any signal) which might prevent you from applying processing such as Dolby ProLogic; subwoofer would still work via bass management in the receiver.

HTH


EDIT: added screenshots
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Oct 30, 2012 at 03:50 AM
Yes sir. I'm using my HD4850 (DVI-HDMI adapter). Dolby and DTS are okay, except this AAC 5.1. How can I set it up? Is it in the Sound settings then Right Click on the AMD High def and choose Configure Speakers? Then set it to 5.1 Surround?

I'm not sure.. Pano po ba malalaman yan? Hehehe

Try splash pro upon searching may issue talaga yung AAC minsan stereo talaga.

Check http://community.mediabrowser.tv/permalinks/4466/aac-5-1-audio-only-shows-stereo-on-my-avr the issue on the stereo output of AAC tapos DVI to HDMI ka pa. Dapat pag select mo ng HDMI sa output ng audio mo wala ka na dapat iset jan na 5.1.



Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rthirtyfourgtr on Oct 30, 2012 at 04:16 AM
Try splash pro upon searching may issue talaga yung AAC minsan stereo talaga.

Check http://community.mediabrowser.tv/permalinks/4466/aac-5-1-audio-only-shows-stereo-on-my-avr the issue on the stereo output of AAC tapos DVI to HDMI ka pa. Dapat pag select mo ng HDMI sa output ng audio mo wala ka na dapat iset jan na 5.1.

i also use Splash Pro and i still have to set-up my speakers as 5.1 in order to get proper 5.1 AAC playback. and it's not limited to AAC, it applies to all audio streams that have to be sent to the receiver as PCM.

no problem though with bitstreamed Dolby/DTS formats regardless of what speaker setup is configured on the laptop.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Oct 30, 2012 at 04:29 AM
this used to happen to me whenever i use my Gen 1 WDTV, minsan may sound kapag digital setting, minsan wala pero kapag naka stero setting lang sa option ng WDTV, may tunog.  Barrister and I had a lengthy discussion and tried to troubleshoot, I ended up avoiding files with AAC because we just couldn't find a way around it.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rthirtyfourgtr on Oct 30, 2012 at 04:39 AM
IMO, people shouldn't be using AAC anyways :D

personally, i stick with dolby/dts formats. only reason i know how to deal with AAC is because someone lent me his HDD which contained media with 5.1 AAC audio, and i've previously encountered similar issues with multichannel PCM as well.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Oct 30, 2012 at 08:09 AM
@rthirtyfourgtr - Thank you for these instructions sir. Gonna try it out later when I get home.

@xrampage - Is that another media player? I'm comfy with XBMC kasi sir... Tapos naka set na lahat ng movies ko dun.

May mga torrent kasi na rare tapos wala pang DTS and Dolby. :(
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: reignman on Nov 05, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Just a question guys.

I plan to set-up a 5.1 audio system in our living room using the ff:

Fronts - Wharf 10.1
Center - Wharf 10cs
Rear - Wharf 10dfs
Sub - Haven't decided yet

Will the VSX-521 be able to handle it?
It's the cheapest so I'm yielding towards it.

Thanks in advance!  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 05, 2012 at 10:33 AM
^yes
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: reignman on Nov 05, 2012 at 12:45 PM
^yes

Thanks bro!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Nov 07, 2012 at 08:27 AM
Good day mga sir!

ano mare recommend nyo budget external amp?

Plan ko kasi gawing 7.1 ang Pio 521 ko.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vladshoteyes on Nov 07, 2012 at 11:00 AM
mga sirs, may shop ba kayo ma i-recommend selling pio receivers? si Tmans ba may shop?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 07, 2012 at 11:04 AM
pick your poison:
pinoydvd market place
sight and sounds
Tmans
listening room
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vladshoteyes on Nov 07, 2012 at 03:10 PM
mga sirs, what will be a better buy in your opinion? 1122, 1121 or 1021?
sa elite naman im looking at the lx55 and lx83? thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 07, 2012 at 03:23 PM
mga sirs, what will be a better buy in your opinion? 1122, 1121 or 1021?
sa elite naman im looking at the lx55 and lx83? thanks

1121 for future proof may pre outs
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vladshoteyes on Nov 07, 2012 at 03:30 PM
how about the sq sir sa 1121? more or less same lang ba with the lx55, lx83?

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 07, 2012 at 04:13 PM
how about the sq sir sa 1121? more or less same lang ba with the lx55, lx83?


ya. 1121 is a baby LX series receiver. You cant go wrong with this unit.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 07, 2012 at 06:49 PM
mga sirs, what will be a better buy in your opinion? 1122, 1121 or 1021?
sa elite naman im looking at the lx55 and lx83? thanks


Magkano po ba budget nyo sir?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 07, 2012 at 07:12 PM
Magkano po ba budget nyo sir?

Kasi kung kulang dadagdagan ni Louie he he he
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 07, 2012 at 07:19 PM
yi can recommend
how about the sq sir sa 1121? more or less same lang ba with the lx55, lx83?



i can recommend the lx53 2009 in listening room. its going for 35k right now.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 07, 2012 at 07:20 PM
yi can recommend
i can recommend the lx53 2009 in listening room. its going for 35k right now.

+1 on this... I heard this in LIstening room and it;s awesome...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vladshoteyes on Nov 07, 2012 at 08:46 PM
40 to 50k for the reciever sirs...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vladshoteyes on Nov 07, 2012 at 08:52 PM
why is it everytime i use google to find out more about the lx55 another model pops up to make my list longer haha. did you guys ever went through with this?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 07, 2012 at 08:53 PM
40 to 50k for the reciever sirs...
the lx53 is almost the same as the vsx 1121.
the lx53 has  missing is airplay, firmware updates online or vtuner but it has practically the same internels as the older model. you can save a bit more if you think you can live without these features.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 07, 2012 at 10:36 PM
1121 for future proof may pre outs

If you plan to use the preouts and wala pang power amp, you might also want to consider the higher models na ice powered or direct energy 3 amps. Malalakas na din ang amp section nun. Baka masmura pa lumabas.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 07, 2012 at 10:39 PM
Class d3 lx56 at the lowest cost 80k, upper d3's models go for 100k
Don't know about the older models.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 08, 2012 at 12:41 AM
noob here when it comes to ht. ka-kajoin ko lang after weeks of waiting ma open ulit registration. i kinda like the pioneer receivers dating back i guess to car audio. problem is too many models with almost the same specs, incomplete or no reviews thus making my choice a tad harder. im gunning for a 7.1 or 7.2 setup. something in between entry level and pro.
which receivers should i get? i read the 1121 or 1021 are good models to get. what about sa elite line? may maganda ba na budget friendly din ang price?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 08, 2012 at 02:19 AM
noob here when it comes to ht. ka-kajoin ko lang after weeks of waiting ma open ulit registration. i kinda like the pioneer receivers dating back i guess to car audio. problem is too many models with almost the same specs, incomplete or no reviews thus making my choice a tad harder. im gunning for a 7.1 or 7.2 setup. something in between entry level and pro.
which receivers should i get? i read the 1121 or 1021 are good models to get. what about sa elite line? may maganda ba na budget friendly din ang price?


1121 - it has preouts and because its also at par with some entry level elites.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 08, 2012 at 01:40 PM
Last time I inquired sa Megamall the new Top of the Line LX-86 is around 86K cash...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 08, 2012 at 01:48 PM
Last time I inquired sa Megamall the new Top of the Line LX-86 is around 86K cash...

Ano kayang katapat nito sa US SC-68,67,66????
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 08, 2012 at 02:44 PM
Ano kayang katapat nito sa US SC-68,67,66????

Elite 68 brader
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 08, 2012 at 02:54 PM
Last time I inquired sa Megamall the new Top of the Line LX-86 is around 86K cash...
dude a mali pala yung 86k was the lx 56. the lx86 is around 100k.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 08, 2012 at 03:00 PM
dude a mali pala yung 86k was the lx 56. the lx86 is around 100k.

Yes, the LX-86 is 100K SRP.
Around 86K after discount.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 08, 2012 at 03:19 PM
wow that expensive huh. well that sure narrows my choices  :-\
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 08, 2012 at 03:26 PM
Yes, the LX-86 is 100K SRP.
Around 86K after discount.

Yan na ba yung Highest Model nang Elite?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 08, 2012 at 03:30 PM
Yan na ba yung Highest Model nang Elite?

Sa pagkakaalam ko brader yan nga...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 08, 2012 at 04:16 PM
sir tavus un lx53 sa listening room brand new ba yan or demo unit?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 08, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Sa pagkakaalam ko brader yan nga...

Yung 2013 model nyan target ni sister louie...pamalit sa 5009. >:D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 08, 2012 at 07:52 PM
sir tavus un lx53 sa listening room brand new ba yan or demo unit?
Yup, brand new according to  the LIS staff.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 09, 2012 at 03:34 PM
mga sirs ive narrowed down my choices to the ff: lx55, vsx 1121 and yamaha rx-v673. mayroon kayang lx55 dito or import lang? any thoughts or advice on the choices? thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 09, 2012 at 03:46 PM
Choose between the ones with preouts, afaik the yammy does not have preouts.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 09, 2012 at 03:59 PM
mga sirs ive narrowed down my choices to the ff: lx55, vsx 1121 and yamaha rx-v673. mayroon kayang lx55 dito or import lang? any thoughts or advice on the choices? thanks
no lx55, lis staff said the pioneer went strait to lx 56.
of the 3 you mentioned vsx 1121 would be my choice or the previously mentioned lx 53.

i do recall 5th avenue selling a Yamaha RX-V1067  for around 45k.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 09, 2012 at 04:12 PM
meron sir. preout for SW. does that count?
http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v673_black_u/?mode=model
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 09, 2012 at 04:13 PM
meron sir. preout for SW. does that count?
http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v673_black_u/?mode=model

Halos lahat ata nang receiver may pre-out for sw
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Courage on Nov 09, 2012 at 04:17 PM
no lx55, lis staff said the pioneer went strait to lx 56.
of the 3 you mentioned vsx 1121 would be my choice or the previously mentioned lx 53.

i do recall 5th avenue selling a Yamaha RX-V1067  for around 45k.

I'll choose the LX 53 or Yamaha RX-1067 if its me..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 09, 2012 at 04:18 PM
meron sir. preout for SW. does that count?
http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v673_black_u/?mode=model

Ok, sorry if i was not direct enough, pre out for a center, front left, front right, surround back left and surround back right. Kung meron 2 more preouts thats wven better.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 09, 2012 at 04:18 PM
meron sir. preout for SW. does that count?
http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v673_black_u/?mode=model
you need at least 5.1 (5 speakers .1 subwoofer) for a full set of pre out.
What speaker do you plan to drive with your receiver? If its efficient you might not need pre-outs after all.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 09, 2012 at 04:33 PM
being my first receiver. speakers will be my next problem lol.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 09, 2012 at 04:41 PM
being my first receiver. speakers will be my next problem lol.


Good luck with the journey, audition as much as you can and most of all, enjoy the music and movies that you will use your new toys with. ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 09, 2012 at 04:42 PM
better search and divert most of your budget to finding speakers first then receiver later, so we know what load ya need to drive em. I suggest you going to the hifi show on NOV 10-11 at Dusit hotel makati. Most major brands will be there for demo. Bring some of you favorite cd and test music there. if you find the speaker sound the best then buy it.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 09, 2012 at 04:49 PM
i live in cebu mga sirs, kaya medyo mahirap mag audition ng ibat ibang speakers and receivers. we have here onkyo 515, 616, denon 1912,yamaha v667 pio 922, pio 1021 to choose from...almost bought the 922 buti naubusan ng stock.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 09, 2012 at 04:55 PM
airplay internet radio,Aureus, phase control plus, hdmi standby/passthrough, anchor bay, firmware upgrade and AVnavigator are missing from the lx53. are these important to have or can i live without it or may solution?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 09, 2012 at 04:59 PM
that will complicate things.
you should figure out  first what speaker you will buy.
I say the denon 1912 would by my pic. denon 1912 is the asia model right?
 Denon's audyssey multi 32xt  is a step up from onkyo's Audyssey 2EQ.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 09, 2012 at 05:10 PM
 
Can you get the models in manila?

it depends if you need these features. Airplay only works with apple products(ipad iphone) and if you don't have one its useless. Lx 53has internet radio but its kinda clunky, no easy search like vtuner. Its firmware has to be updated by a technician. self update will void warranty if something goes wrong.
 But its a sound receiver. It does everything a receiver a receiver needs to be(sound quality and picture).

find a speaker first.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 09, 2012 at 05:14 PM
as long as it plays music decently, and can dish out the surround tracks from a movie, those will be my priority mga sirs. am i already on the wrong path here?hehe  ive read about how good polk and wharfdales are. so speaker choice might go there.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 09, 2012 at 05:25 PM
as long as it plays music decently, and can dish out the surround tracks from a movie, those will be my priority mga sirs. am i already on the wrong path here?hehe  ive read about how good polk and wharfdales are. so speaker choice might go there.

What brand of speakers do you have access to? Marami tayong brothers there in cebu that have excellent systems.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 09, 2012 at 05:30 PM

okay were getting somewhere. polk and wharfdales aren't that hard to drive but Polk is slightly more efficient. everything suggested earlier can drive these speakers. go listen to them in person. you might find other brands din on your search.
 how will you get the lx53? are there any dealers in cebu?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 09, 2012 at 05:51 PM
soundroom and circuit city here can source it for me. just need a brand/model to give them.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 09, 2012 at 06:05 PM
What brand of speakers do you have access to? Marami tayong brothers there in cebu that have excellent systems.

sir, speakers are more common here than receivers though more expensive. so my plan is getting both receivers and speakers there...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 09, 2012 at 06:44 PM
But have you auditioned some at least? Ver subjective kasi ang tunog sir eh there may be some speakers that are not very appealing ang tunog sayo but are loved by others.  So either find an amp that you really like based on features then find speakers for them or listen to speakers and make a choice then find an amp to drive them.  You have to start somewhere because if all you want is something that will sound decent and plays music, even an htib may please your ears.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 09, 2012 at 08:37 PM
im going for the receiver then speakers route. like i said mas common maka kuha speakers compared to receivers. at least with a receiver i can go audition speakers here. if the price isnt to high ang diff ill buy it here (speakers). with the receiver malamang dyan na ako  kukuha.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 10, 2012 at 12:08 AM
im going for the receiver then speakers route. like i said mas common maka kuha speakers compared to receivers. at least with a receiver i can go audition speakers here. if the price isnt to high ang diff ill buy it here (speakers). with the receiver malamang dyan na ako  kukuha.


More often than not, its better to have a powerful receiver that has more capacity than the speakers, its to avoid clipping.  How big is the room that you are going to set it up in?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 10, 2012 at 12:41 AM
sir the room measures 18x15x9 (in feet)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 10, 2012 at 01:06 AM
sir the room measures 18x15x9 (in feet)


hmm...medyo sizable na yan ah, magkano budget mo sir?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 10, 2012 at 02:20 AM
siguro sir sa 30k to 50k.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 10, 2012 at 04:52 AM
siguro sir sa 30k to 50k.


i'm assuming thats for both the receiver and speakers right?  if so, I would strongly suggest doing a 2.1 or 2.0 set up first.  becase when you push for a 5.1 system with a very constrained budget, you will end up with speakers that you dont like, or a receiver that you dont like and before you know it you are either selling one of the pieces or all of them just to upgrade to something better.

Whats fun about this hobby is starting from scratch and building around the toys that you chose because you like them, not because its what you can afford.  so with a 50k budget, for HT and Music use, I will look for these brand of speakers to listen to, Polk audio, PSB, Mission, Wharfedale, Klipsch, B&W(bookshelf).  Then match with with a 2nd hand receiver from the marketplace.  We have some very reputable sellers that are real gentlemen and would be willing to ship items to you at rock bottom prices.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Nov 10, 2012 at 08:06 AM
i live in cebu mga sirs, kaya medyo mahirap mag audition ng ibat ibang speakers and receivers. we have here onkyo 515, 616, denon 1912,yamaha v667 pio 922, pio 1021 to choose from...almost bought the 922 buti naubusan ng stock.

Bai! I'm also from Cebu! Have you seen a Pioneer VSX-1021 here? Where?

Soundroom is a bit too overpriced. As well as creative audio. Harmanson (across SSS) is the only shop I know that sells HT equipments at a lower price. I dunno sa downtown area.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 10, 2012 at 09:00 AM
siguro sir sa 30k to 50k.

kung receiver lang yan dami nyang pwede..hihihi...
pioneer lang ba option mo?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 10, 2012 at 12:10 PM
@sir Raider im open to Denon and Yamaha as well. i had a pio setup only sa old car ko kaya first choice ko pio.

@rhodem, bai ya im planning sa harmanson sad mo buy. mahal mahal gyud if agi ta sa soundroom.

@sir Tim budget was for receiver, but i could go 4ok for the receiver then 20k sa speakers. will that be enough na?  :-\
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 10, 2012 at 12:42 PM
guys ask ko lang..how important are reviews from like whathifi, etc...i mean take for example their review on pioneer vsx922 (http://www.whathifi.com/review/pioneer-vsx-922-k) its feature packed, detailed sound and EISA best product 2012. but then reviewer says "Can be bettered for subtlety and dynamics; poor timing in stereo;" awards it 3 stars. 5 stars goes to the yamaha rx-v673 for "Fantastic steering of surround effects; seamless surround field;"

my question is a pio 922k paired with decent speakers - can an ordinary consumer like me feel the poor timing in stereo, lack in subtlety and dynamics?

same goes with the yamaha rxv673 with decent speakers - can i tell the diff between a better steering of surround effects compared to the 922k?

same with the pio vsx1121 vs lx53 - they both have the same power and internals i believe using advanced direct energy. but 1121 is more feature packed. is there really a big diff with sound quality and how they give out the surround effects? because if its just marginally then ill go for the best bang for my buck sort of receiver with enough features to save me further upgrades down the road.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Nov 10, 2012 at 08:47 PM
of all the main stream review site what hifi is probably the worst magazine. They review a lot of stuff but the problem is there reviews short, skimpy and lacks scientific measurements. Go read a review form more reputable mags like  hometheater, sound and vision or audioholics.


Lx53 is the same as the older 1120 not the 1121. go for more expensive speakers then receiver.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Philander on Dec 03, 2012 at 09:44 AM
Which one to choose:

Pioneer VSX 521 - for Php 10K
or a
Pioneer VSX 821 - for Php 15.5K

The only main difference is the speaker connection and the USB connectivity.

Is the 5.5K difference worth it?

Also Pioneer VSX 522 (with USB just like 821) is being sold for Php 15K.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 03, 2012 at 09:50 AM
Which one to choose:

Pioneer VSX 521 - for Php 10K
or a
Pioneer VSX 821 - for Php 15.5K

The only main difference is the speaker connection and the USB connectivity.

Is the 5.5K difference worth it?

Also Pioneer VSX 522 (with USB just like 821) is being sold for Php 15K.


go with 821...meron ata sa hmr brader...
if you can go 921 or 1021 the better...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 03, 2012 at 09:51 AM
Which one to choose:

Pioneer VSX 521 - for Php 10K
or a
Pioneer VSX 821 - for Php 15.5K

The only main difference is the speaker connection and the USB connectivity.

Is the 5.5K difference worth it?

Also Pioneer VSX 522 (with USB just like 821) is being sold for Php 15K.




Bro, can you please share where I can get a 521 for 10K? I need a receiver pronto, my yammy is kinda sick.

As for your question, I'd choose the 521 if the 821's features are useless to me. 5K is still 5K. :)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 03, 2012 at 09:52 AM

Bro, can you please share where I can get a 521 for 10K? I need a receiver pronto, my yammy is kinda sick.

As for your question, I'd choose the 521 if the 821's features are useless to me. 5K is still 5K. :)

Thanks!

521 in LIS brader
821 same price in hmr hehehe...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 03, 2012 at 09:54 AM
go with 821...meron ata sa hmr brader...
if you can go 921 or 1021 the better...

bro, what's the running price at hmr for these? thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 03, 2012 at 09:55 AM
521 in LIS brader
821 same price in hmr hehehe...


huwat?! hhmmm... napaisip ako tuloy hehehe...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 03, 2012 at 10:03 AM

huwat?! hhmmm... napaisip ako tuloy hehehe...
haha...tawag kana..hmr sa may pioneer
kasi pioneer bibilhin mo sa may pioneer din yan lol

or 521 at lis...go go go
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 03, 2012 at 10:08 AM
haha...tawag kana..hmr sa may pioneer
kasi pioneer bibilhin mo sa may pioneer din yan lol

or 521 at lis...go go go


sa warranty lang naman nagkatalo...


EDIT: so pwede tumawag sa HMR and ask kung ano meron sila?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Philander on Dec 03, 2012 at 10:23 AM
go with 821...meron ata sa hmr brader...
if you can go 921 or 1021 the better...

Thanks.

OO nga meron sa HMR, pero iba pa rin yung talagang bago at may Pioneer warranty :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Philander on Dec 03, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Bro, can you please share where I can get a 521 for 10K? I need a receiver pronto, my yammy is kinda sick.

As for your question, I'd choose the 521 if the 821's features are useless to me. 5K is still 5K. :)

Thanks!

Php 9,990.00 in all Listening Group Branches (LIS, LR, LUp)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Philander on Dec 03, 2012 at 10:28 AM


EDIT: so pwede tumawag sa HMR and ask kung ano meron sila?

Yes pwedeng pwede, pwede ka rin makipagkaibigan sa mga store personnel to update you kung ano ang mga latest arrives and mga best deals.

Quota sale rin kasi sila dyan.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 03, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Php 9,990.00 in all Listening Group Branches (LIS, LR, LUp)

Copy that bro, thanks for the info!


Thanks.

OO nga meron sa HMR, pero iba pa rin yung talagang bago at may Pioneer warranty :)

My sentiments also... gaano ba ang warranty usually ng mga receivers from LIS?



Yes pwedeng pwede, pwede ka rin makipagkaibigan sa mga store personnel to update you kung ano ang mga latest arrives and mga best deals.

Quota sale rin kasi sila dyan.

Ah I see, kaya pala madami ako nababasa sa hmr thread na na-update sila when there are new gears and stocks...

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Philander on Dec 03, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Copy that bro, thanks for the info!


My sentiments also... gaano ba ang warranty usually ng mga receivers from LIS?



Ah I see, kaya pala madami ako nababasa sa hmr thread na na-update sila when there are new gears and stocks...



Standard warranty for 1 year: parts and services. If they cannot fix it in one month, they need to give you a new unit or equivalent.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 03, 2012 at 11:05 AM
Standard warranty for 1 year: parts and services. If they cannot fix it in one month, they need to give you a new unit or equivalent.


wah! naguguluhan na ako hehehe... si misis ang gusto if I get a replacement/stop gap receiver at least yun may warranty daw sana... isip muna...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 03, 2012 at 11:19 AM
stop gap? stereo amp! 2.1 muna. sandali mo lang naman titirahin yung yammy na yan, ikaw pa!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 03, 2012 at 11:29 AM
stop gap? stereo amp! 2.1 muna. sandali mo lang naman titirahin yung yammy na yan, ikaw pa!


kakabili ko lang ng COD Black Ops 2 and ang sarap sa 5.1 brad... parang di ko kaya sa 2.1 ;D

di ko nga makalikot, di ko alam kung saan ako mag uumpisa... :(

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Dec 03, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Listening room as far as i know sells the 521 for 9999
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 03, 2012 at 07:08 PM
Thanks, my wife is supporting the 521 option as of now...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 03, 2012 at 07:15 PM
Thanks, my wife is supporting the 521 option as of now...

Palit AVR na naman boss?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 03, 2012 at 07:21 PM
Palit AVR na naman boss?


No brader, my yammy is acting up so I need something to replace it until it's repaired... ang hirap ng walang receiver ;D

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 03, 2012 at 08:56 PM
No brader, my yammy is acting up so I need something to replace it until it's repaired... ang hirap ng walang receiver ;D

Get a receiver with multi channel preout na tapos hook it up sa gain clone mo.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 03, 2012 at 11:07 PM

No brader, my yammy is acting up so I need something to replace it until it's repaired... ang hirap ng walang receiver ;D

Wow! Pamatid-gutom lang pala ang bagong AVR. :P
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 03, 2012 at 11:57 PM
Wow! Pamatid-gutom lang pala ang bagong AVR. :P


Oo nga. nanliit tuloy ako sa receiver ko. Iba talaga ang "bigatin".
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 04, 2012 at 01:00 AM
Get a receiver with multi channel preout na tapos hook it up sa gain clone mo.

May discrete design na ako, halos lahat pala ng receivers 1 pair per channel lang ang output. Pero I doubt talaga kung kaya ng all channels driven...

Ano ba modelo ang may preouts? Yun yammy may preouts na eh, unless di na siya marepair pa...



Wow! Pamatid-gutom lang pala ang bagong AVR. :P



Hindi naman sa ganon pero parang ganon na nga sir, it has something to fill in for the moment lang naman (hopefully)... ;D



Oo nga. nanliit tuloy ako sa receiver ko. Iba talaga ang "bigatin".


Ngek! Bakit naman nanliit ka tukayo? Super entry level lang naman hanap ko... yun sa iyo naman top of the line for sure... ;)

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:25 AM
Ngek! Bakit naman nanliit ka tukayo? Super entry level lang naman hanap ko... yun sa iyo naman top of the line for sure... ;)

Top of the line, when you start your top from the bottom. Haha! Unfortunately, sa mga Pio receivers, karamihan ng may mga preouts, ay madalas, powerful na din ang amp section nila. Sabagay, you can always use LOC in the absence of a preout.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 04, 2012 at 08:37 AM
Top of the line, when you start your top from the bottom. Haha! Unfortunately, sa mga Pio receivers, karamihan ng may mga preouts, ay madalas, powerful na din ang amp section nila. Sabagay, you can always use LOC in the absence of a preout.

Mismo, mainit nga sa DA ang LOC, may transformer based pa nga... tama ka, minsan it defeats the idea na, tapos ang mahal pa hahaha!

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 04, 2012 at 08:40 AM
elite ata dadalhin ni brader JOJO hihihi...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 04, 2012 at 08:54 AM
elite ata dadalhin ni brader JOJO hihihi...


asusmaryosep! 521 brader, 521 ang binabalak ko hehehe...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:23 AM

asusmaryosep! 521 brader, 521 ang binabalak ko hehehe...
hehe...daming magandang amp sa market place...huwag na yang 521....
baka mabitin ka...e gutomin ka...e love ka namin hihihi
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 04, 2012 at 01:27 PM
hehe...daming magandang amp sa market place...huwag na yang 521....
baka mabitin ka...e gutomin ka...e love ka namin hihihi


ang haba ng pila eh... teka na curious ako, bakit may mga ayaw sa 521? why?

talagang bitin ba? mabilis naman mabusog eh hehehe...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 04, 2012 at 01:42 PM

ang haba ng pila eh... teka na curious ako, bakit may mga ayaw sa 521? why?

talagang bitin ba? mabilis naman mabusog eh hehehe...
hindi naman ayaw...hindi lang bagay para sayo yan brader...
di lang dapat tayo ang busog
dapat busog din ang espeakers mo...hehehe...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 04, 2012 at 01:44 PM
Ako naka 921 lang...pero ginawan ng paraan para makabitan ng power amp...ayun, busog at naguumapaw pa...yan din nd dapat kung kay master Jojo hehe.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 04, 2012 at 02:46 PM
hindi naman ayaw...hindi lang bagay para sayo yan brader...
di lang dapat tayo ang busog
dapat busog din ang espeakers mo...hehehe...


ah speaker pala ang sinasabi mo brader, wlang problema at madali ko busugin yan... tsaka maliit lang naman room eh... akala ko there is something in particular na ayaw ng iba sa 521.... ;D




Ako naka 921 lang...pero ginawan ng paraan para makabitan ng power amp...ayun, busog at naguumapaw pa...yan din nd dapat kung kay master Jojo hehe.

Oist anong paraan ang ginawa para makabitan ng power amp yan 921 mo?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 04, 2012 at 02:52 PM

ah speaker pala ang sinasabi mo brader, wlang problema at madali ko busugin yan... tsaka maliit lang naman room eh... akala ko there is something in particular na ayaw ng iba sa 521.... ;D
Oist anong paraan ang ginawa para makabitan ng power amp yan 921 mo?

LOC.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 04, 2012 at 02:54 PM
LOC.


aba sakto may project and JD Labs 5 channel speaker level to line level with constant 8 ohms load na ipapasok sa diyAudio... ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 04, 2012 at 02:57 PM

ah speaker pala ang sinasabi mo brader, wlang problema at madali ko busugin yan... tsaka maliit lang naman room eh... akala ko there is something in particular na ayaw ng iba sa 521.... ;D




Oist anong paraan ang ginawa para makabitan ng power amp yan 921 mo?

LOC lang master Jo, kung magaling lng ako magsolder tuturuan lang sana ako ni mark kung pano eh (markcrenz). Kaso pang glue gun lang ang aking soldering iskilz kaya sya na lang gumawa.hihi, ganto itsura master Jo.

(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q680/Timithekid/image_zps07855e05.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 04, 2012 at 03:00 PM
LOC lang master Jo, kung magaling lng ako magsolder tuturuan lang sana ako ni mark kung pano eh (markcrenz). Kaso pang glue gun lang ang aking soldering iskilz kaya sya na lang gumawa.hihi, ganto itsura master Jo.

(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q680/Timithekid/image_zps07855e05.jpg)


ayus! si Mark ba gumawa niyan? nice! 8)

passive lahat ano? malamang kay pareng Rod Elliot yan galing...

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 04, 2012 at 03:02 PM

ayus! si Mark ba gumawa niyan? nice! 8)

passive lahat ano? malamang kay pareng Rod Elliot yan galing...



Yes yes yo master Jo, si Mark ang may gawa.  Passive lahat sir, kung willing pa nga ako gastusan may igaganda pa yung binding post hehe.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 04, 2012 at 03:08 PM
Yes yes yo master Jo, si Mark ang may gawa.  Passive lahat sir, kung willing pa nga ako gastusan may igaganda pa yung binding post hehe.

Galing! Ayus na yan, di naman importante yun binding post... unless kasing laki ng power cord ang ikakabit mo na wire diyan... importante diyan yun resistors....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 04, 2012 at 05:11 PM
Galing! Ayus na yan, di naman importante yun binding post... unless kasing laki ng power cord ang ikakabit mo na wire diyan... importante diyan yun resistors....

Pwede ba jan yun resistors ng lumang ignition coil ng mga auto? Haha!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 04, 2012 at 05:18 PM
anong kaguluhan ito? hehe! actually pwede nga yan speaker wire lang tapos naka-shrink tube yung parts then RCA wires, kaso gusto ni timi may kaha.

yung resistors ginamit ko sa LOC hand-matched pa to within 0.3% values. power-matched syempre sa receiver nya. gusto mo magpagawa? hahaha!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 04, 2012 at 05:54 PM
Pwede ba jan yun resistors ng lumang ignition coil ng mga auto? Haha!


Mag tamales na lang tayo tukayo at tsaka tsaa!



anong kaguluhan ito? hehe! actually pwede nga yan speaker wire lang tapos naka-shrink tube yung parts then RCA wires, kaso gusto ni timi may kaha.

yung resistors ginamit ko sa LOC hand-matched pa to within 0.3% values. power-matched syempre sa receiver nya. gusto mo magpagawa? hahaha!


baka magmukhang balanced to unbalanced adaptor ng mga antennae ng tv pag naka heatshrink...

parang L-pad lang may matching pa? meron ako dito e192 panasonic 0.1% tolerance na sakto for a -30db attenuation. pwede na ito pag hindi ginamit sa burning amp project padala ko sayo papagawa ako ha?
Title: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Jingo on Dec 05, 2012 at 07:32 PM
Guys I have an old Pioneer VSX model. Will post exact model. Question lang. I have an Egreat R6S media player and will the receiver read the audio? I haven't tried it yet since I'm still looking for a composite cable.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 06, 2012 at 06:06 PM
Guys I have an old Pioneer VSX model. Will post exact model. Question lang. I have an Egreat R6S media player and will the receiver read the audio? I haven't tried it yet since I'm still looking for a composite cable.



optical or co ax connection pwede yan basta dts and dd
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Dec 08, 2012 at 04:33 PM
Remember when flag ship receivers cost 120,000++?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/joesquest/pio001.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Dec 08, 2012 at 06:19 PM
^That's good pricing for high end AVRs. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 08, 2012 at 06:29 PM
may free HDMI pa... buti na lang nag upgrade na ako from component video... ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 08, 2012 at 06:35 PM
^That's good pricing for high end AVRs. :)


I'm still thinking of the vsx521 to take the place of my yammy... :)

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 08, 2012 at 08:46 PM
what's the difference between the VSX series and the SC series?

how about the VSX LX53? where does it belong?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Dec 08, 2012 at 09:32 PM
what's the difference between the VSX series and the SC series?

how about the VSX LX53? where does it belong?
The SC series receivers is a USA model. They run on class D digital amps while the VSX series runs on a standard a/B amp. Class D amps run cooler and are more efficient.

The LX 53 is a A/B amp, its an older model, around 2010. I own one, its plays loud and clear. It gets hot though.
 I would put it slightly lower than the LX 56.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 08, 2012 at 10:34 PM
The SC series receivers is a USA model. They run on class D digital amps while the VSX series runs on a standard a/B amp. Class D amps run cooler and are more efficient.

The LX 53 is a A/B amp, its an older model, around 2010. I own one, its plays loud and clear. It gets hot though.
 I would put it slightly lower than the LX 56.

Oh so the LX53 is still a discrete design, I like that, though Class D means efficiency.

Anyway, so it is stupid to compare the vsx521 to an lx53 right? I mean, it is still more packed even if it's already 2 years old? Would you recommend the lx53 over the 521... 1021 models?

Sorry for my ignorant questions, I am very serious though so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Dec 09, 2012 at 12:25 AM
no contest, the Pioneer lx53 is heads way better than the 521.
It's got more power at 110 x 7 (20Hz - 20kHz) 8 ohms compared to the 521 80 x 5 (20Hz - 20kHz).
I doubt both receivers will reach there full power at all channels driven but the 521 would be worst.
The lx53 has a better mcacc advance 9 bands vs 521 MCACC basic 5 bands. I've tried both basic and advance it find advance gives a warmer sound plus its very tweak-able. 
Also the osd on the lx53 has graphics and much better than the text based osd of the 521.


you can also update the lx53 firmware if you bring it to the service center but i know the firmware is on the net but that is risk and can void firmware if you screw up, so i dont recommend it.   >:D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 09, 2012 at 12:47 AM
Thanks, Ive been doing some reading too about these series and it seems the only logical way for me to go is somewhere I don't really want to go to.

Fortunately for me, I already have my wife's blessings and we're going to do some auditioning tomorrow.

Cheers!

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 09, 2012 at 12:54 AM
Thanks, Ive been doing some reading too about these series and it seems the only logical way for me to go is somewhere I don't really want to go to.

Fortunately for me, I already have my wife's blessings and we're going to do some auditioning tomorrow.

Cheers!



Congrats in advance sir jojo. Ayun LX89 na kunin mo. >:D >:D >:D

Ano pala yammy receiver mo?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 09, 2012 at 01:08 AM
Congrats in advance sir jojo. Ayun LX89 na kunin mo. >:D >:D >:D

Ano pala yammy receiver mo?


Yay di ko kaya yan sir, how I wish hehehe...

Rxv1700 sir...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:04 PM
New Pio AV user here! ;D


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/1-My%20HT/IMG_0393.jpg)


Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:10 PM
New Pio AV user here! ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/1-My%20HT/IMG_0393.jpg)

Congrats! Bang for the buck yan!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 09, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Congrats! Bang for the buck yan!

Sana nga, puro Bang na lang ang meron ako naubos na ang Buck! ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Dec 09, 2012 at 09:18 PM
excellent choice. Nothing at that price point can touch the lx53.

I guess you'll have to know how to run, mcacc
http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avsforum.com%2Ft%2F1112470%2Fofficial-pioneer-mcacc-thread&ei=cIzEUNmSHYLxrQetkYDQBw&usg=AFQjCNFW7EVaEG97bARyOarTJB6aeOKMpA (http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avsforum.com%2Ft%2F1112470%2Fofficial-pioneer-mcacc-thread&ei=cIzEUNmSHYLxrQetkYDQBw&usg=AFQjCNFW7EVaEG97bARyOarTJB6aeOKMpA)

This is optional but you can update the firmware by bringing it pioneer in Pasay (safer) or you can update it yourself which is risky. Files are on the web but it can brick your unit and void your warranty if you screw up.  :o
Firmware seems to improve stereo mode and some hdmi improvements.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Dec 09, 2012 at 11:11 PM
only power interuption can brick the unit.but yeah authorize tech is much much recomended
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 09, 2012 at 11:17 PM
excellent choice. Nothing at that price point can touch the lx53.

I guess you'll have to know how to run, mcacc
http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avsforum.com%2Ft%2F1112470%2Fofficial-pioneer-mcacc-thread&ei=cIzEUNmSHYLxrQetkYDQBw&usg=AFQjCNFW7EVaEG97bARyOarTJB6aeOKMpA (http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avsforum.com%2Ft%2F1112470%2Fofficial-pioneer-mcacc-thread&ei=cIzEUNmSHYLxrQetkYDQBw&usg=AFQjCNFW7EVaEG97bARyOarTJB6aeOKMpA)

This is optional but you can update the firmware by bringing it pioneer in Pasay (safer) or you can update it yourself which is risky. Files are on the web but it can brick your unit and void your warranty if you screw up.  :o
Firmware seems to improve stereo mode and some hdmi improvements.


I never used those tuning devices, even with my yammy's ypao. But it's good to know it's there though I like my HT to sound the way I want it to be, I'd follow the ypao/mcacc in my ears for the moment... ;D

I think it's better to have them update the fw, thought that's gonna be for a later date for me, still enjoying surfing with the remote and the avr's features. :)

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 10, 2012 at 12:11 AM

I never used those tuning devices, even with my yammy's ypao. But it's good to know it's there though I like my HT to sound the way I want it to be, I'd follow the ypao/mcacc in my ears for the moment... ;D

I think it's better to have them update the fw, thought that's gonna be for a later date for me, still enjoying surfing with the remote and the avr's features. :)

With Pio, you can save your tuning at an assigned memory. you can run MCACC and save it at a different preset memory. This way you can compare your settings with that of the Pio's calibration. Ganyan ang ginawa ko, though i also did not use the MCACC. Ginawa ko lang siyang reference.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 10, 2012 at 08:25 AM
I think there are 5 memory slots tukayo, nakita ko na din pero di ko pa nasubukan gamitin. Lahat puro factory default lang muna except sa speaker settings and levels.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 10, 2012 at 08:36 AM
hhmmm... it does not have any AC outlets at the back.... I can't power-sync my sub and other peripherals with the AVR...


good thing it has a 12V trigger, let's see what we can whip up later... ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: sientobente on Dec 10, 2012 at 12:05 PM
magkano po yang lx53? looks very attractive. may 7.1 preouts na siya right?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Dec 10, 2012 at 02:02 PM
37000, 35000 i think with cash. yes it has preouts.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 10, 2012 at 02:14 PM
hhmmm... it does not have any AC outlets at the back.... I can't power-sync my sub and other peripherals with the AVR...

good thing it has a 12V trigger, let's see what we can whip up later... ;) ;) ;)


Kunwari ka pa. Gagawin mong trigger ang 12v for the coil ng relay. Hehe!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 10, 2012 at 07:20 PM
Kunwari ka pa. Gagawin mong trigger ang 12v for the coil ng relay. Hehe!


Pwede, pero I was actually thinking solid state switching, meron ako dito sequential switcher eh. :P

Ikaw ba gumagamit ng remote trigger sa Pio mo?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Dec 10, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Pwede, pero I was actually thinking solid state switching, meron ako dito sequential switcher eh. :P

Ikaw ba gumagamit ng remote trigger sa Pio mo?
wouldnt that break the warranty?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 11, 2012 at 12:51 AM
wouldnt that break the warranty?

I don't think so, I'll just use the 12V trigger output to trigger my other gears so they power up right after the avr....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 11, 2012 at 07:16 AM

Pwede, pero I was actually thinking solid state switching, meron ako dito sequential switcher eh. :P

Ikaw ba gumagamit ng remote trigger sa Pio mo?

Nope. Walang 12v trigger yun Pio ko... Sa sub input switcher ko ginamit yun "DIY" 12v trigger ng stereo system ko.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 11, 2012 at 08:30 AM
Nope. Walang 12v trigger yun Pio ko... Sa sub input switcher ko ginamit yun "DIY" 12v trigger ng stereo system ko.

Akala ko pa naman standard sa Pio ang 12V trigger... anyway sarap ng LX53, punong-puno...

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 11, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Akala ko pa naman standard sa Pio ang 12V trigger... anyway sarap ng LX53, punong-puno...


Busog ka ba sa features...?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 11, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Busog ka ba sa features...?

Oo naman pero hindi lang sa features... power, sonics, i/o, etc... I like the whole package...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 11, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Oo naman pero hindi lang sa features... power, sonics, i/o, etc... I like the whole package...
swak na swak sa wharf mo yan...best combo pio and wharf
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 11, 2012 at 11:59 AM
swak na swak sa wharf mo yan...best combo pio and wharf

yup bro, I've had other Pio amps and receivers before kaya familiar na din ako sa tunog ng mga ito.

I also auditioned the other receivers in their line, ok naman pero this one well worth every Peso, nakalimutan ko na nga kung magkano bili ko eh... ;D

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 11, 2012 at 02:16 PM
yup bro, I've had other Pio amps and receivers before kaya familiar na din ako sa tunog ng mga ito.

I also auditioned the other receivers in their line, ok naman pero this one well worth every Peso, nakalimutan ko na nga kung magkano bili ko eh... ;D
ok lang brader...ibang sensation ang feeling nyan....
ganda ganda...hehehe..

para kalang minamasahe sa massage parlor with free extra service - congrats
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Dec 12, 2012 at 12:08 AM
yup bro, I've had other Pio amps and receivers before kaya familiar na din ako sa tunog ng mga ito.

I also auditioned the other receivers in their line, ok naman pero this one well worth every Peso, nakalimutan ko na nga kung magkano bili ko eh... ;D


kunin ko yan master tupayb
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 12, 2012 at 12:55 AM
kunin ko yan master tupayb


ayaw... ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 12, 2012 at 01:00 AM

ayaw... ;D

eh tupaybwan? Last na tawad na?  Or like pang ps3 na xbox game mario and ??? ^-^ ^-^
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 12, 2012 at 09:11 AM
kahon pa din!

pero kung isasama mo yan si mario vs sailormoon... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 12, 2012 at 08:01 PM
kahon pa din!

pero kung isasama mo yan si mario vs sailormoon... ;D ;D ;D

Hindi ko alam kung hen-tai or pa-tay ang ihihirit ko...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 13, 2012 at 12:04 AM
Hindi ko alam kung hen-tai or pa-tay ang ihihirit ko...


san ka naman nakakita, private release yun mario vs sailormoon... hahaha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Dec 28, 2012 at 11:23 PM
mga master question lang po anu po ba magnda for music sa 5.1 kasi im using xtreamer elvira and nag papatugtog ako ng flac files anu po ba mganda for effects para gumana lahat ng 5 speakers ko inlcuding subs, ext stereo po ba? or Dolby PLII music? thanks po
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Dec 28, 2012 at 11:24 PM
Pioneer AVR 921 po pala gamit ko thanks!!! Xtreamer elvira and optical cable anu po ba mas magnda optical or HDMI?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Dec 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM
whats your budget? well since your into music maybe a good pair of towers is all you need. i suggest you ask in the speaker section.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Dec 28, 2012 at 11:56 PM
sir i have already my set 5 speakers different brands pair of Pioneer Floorstander and 1 center and 2 sorrounds na JBL ask ko lang po kasi anu po ba ang dapt na set up for sound effects? ext stereo lang po ba?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 29, 2012 at 12:30 AM
Pioneer AVR 921 po pala gamit ko thanks!!! Xtreamer elvira and optical cable anu po ba mas magnda optical or HDMI?

Masmaganda HDMI kasi HD audio capable siya.
sir i have already my set 5 speakers different brands pair of Pioneer Floorstander and 1 center and 2 sorrounds na JBL ask ko lang po kasi anu po ba ang dapt na set up for sound effects? ext stereo lang po ba?

For sound effects sa movies, i suggest following the encoded information ng movie files like DTS etc. For music/stereo listening, follow your preference kung ano maganda sa iyo. Kaunti lang naman ang selection niyan. Try to toy around with your system.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Dec 29, 2012 at 12:31 AM
I'm using the Ext. Stereo or the Dolby PLII Music.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Dec 29, 2012 at 12:43 AM

 Ext. Stereo or the Dolby PLII Music.

pero anu po ba mas standard dito sir?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 29, 2012 at 12:50 AM
Ext. Stereo or the Dolby PLII Music.

pero anu po ba mas standard dito sir?


Standard for music listening is pure direct.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Dec 29, 2012 at 12:52 AM
ah two channels lang talga sir no? ext stereo ko nalang siguro para gumana lahat
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: corpse grinder on Dec 29, 2012 at 01:17 AM
mga master may naka pag audition na po ba ng pionner vsx-1122k? maganda po ba sa sounds and movie?maraming slamat and hapi new year to all PDVD
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Dec 29, 2012 at 01:17 AM
may nakita ka na ba nito locally bro?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: corpse grinder on Dec 29, 2012 at 05:16 AM
may nakita ka na ba nito locally bro?
wala pa sir sa amazon lng at site ng pioneer phil.mukang maganda kasi ang review...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Dec 29, 2012 at 10:35 AM
you pioneer set. what model? i hear the new ones by andrew jones are good.

i usually use direct( with sub),  pure(no sub as  it uses no receiver processing so its the exact sound from the disk. front wide is also okay to my ears.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 08, 2013 at 08:10 AM
mga sir gudmorning papaano po ba paganahin ang HDMI passthru ng Pio 521k?


ito po kasi ang set up ko

Sony 46Bx450 > HDMI in to HDMI out PiO 521k > Extreamer Elvira in > HDMI Pio 521k in.

gusto ko po sana manood minsan lalo na kapag gabi ng hinde na gagamitin yung PIO hinde ko lang po mapagana kung papaano.

salamat po!!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 08, 2013 at 10:10 AM
mga sir gudmorning papaano po ba paganahin ang HDMI passthru ng Pio 521k?


ito po kasi ang set up ko

Sony 46Bx450 > HDMI in to HDMI out PiO 521k > Extreamer Elvira in > HDMI Pio 521k in.

gusto ko po sana manood minsan lalo na kapag gabi ng hinde na gagamitin yung PIO hinde ko lang po mapagana kung papaano.

salamat po!!!

Sir on your remote press receiver then audio parameter, scroll through the options till you see hdmi, there should be 2 choices, amp and hdmi through.  Please note though that it does not always work, it only works for my bluray player and not for my ps3 or nmt.  Maybe the others know how to make it work for everything..lets wait for them to chime in.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 08, 2013 at 10:41 AM
anung settings and sinelect nyo sir? HDMI thru or amp?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 08, 2013 at 10:52 AM
anung settings and sinelect nyo sir? HDMI thru or amp?

Kung amp po gusto nyo tumunog, select amp, kung tv gusto mo patunogin select through.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 08, 2013 at 10:55 AM
ah so dapat thru pala e sa tv ba sir dapat may settings din na gagalawin?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:01 AM
ah so dapat thru pala e sa tv ba sir dapat may settings din na gagalawin?

Wala naman ako ginalaw sire.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 08, 2013 at 11:24 AM
cge sir try ko mamaya salamat sana mag work
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 09, 2013 at 09:40 AM
sir naka HDMI thru na sya pero every time na pinpatay ko yung AVR nawawala yung display ng Xtreamer ko sa TV... :-\
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 09, 2013 at 09:42 AM
sir naka HDMI thru na sya pero every time na pinpatay ko yung AVR nawawala yung display ng Xtreamer ko sa TV... :-\

Minsan sir hindi po talaga gumagana, as i mentioned in a previous post..bluray player - check, ps3 - fail, NMT - fail.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 09, 2013 at 10:20 AM
ganun po ba/ try ko muna ilagay sa ibang port
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 11, 2013 at 02:20 PM
Hi sir's,

Question po anu po magndang settings ng extreamer elvira sa audio for VXS 52kk? HDMI po gamit na cable
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: simons on Jan 18, 2013 at 01:23 PM
Good day mga masters, help naman po. My Pioneer VSX 920, paired with Acoustimass 15 Home Theater Speaker System, is working perfectly ok, except this issue. When I’m using this avr like in watching movies, I set the volume level at -20db to -25db, - 10db to 15db is too loud for me, consequently, the volume is always set to negative db.  Before I turn it off, I see to it that it is set to -40db.  I calibrated it twice using the MCACC but the results were just the same. Ano po kaya ang probable cause, ok lang po ba ito or is there any remedy to start the volume level at +0db?.  Mas gusto ko po kasi magstart sa +0db. Many thanks po.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jan 18, 2013 at 01:49 PM
Good day mga masters, help naman po. My Pioneer VSX 920, paired with Acoustimass 15 Home Theater Speaker System, is working perfectly ok, except this issue. When I’m using this avr like in watching movies, I set the volume level at -20db to -25db, - 10db to 15db is too loud for me, consequently, the volume is always set to negative db.  Before I turn it off, I see to it that it is set to -40db.  I calibrated it twice using the MCACC but the results were just the same. Ano po kaya ang probable cause, ok lang po ba ito or is there any remedy to start the volume level at +0db?.  Mas gusto ko po kasi magstart sa +0db. Many thanks po.

That's really how it should be. 0db is really very loud, as that equates to an average level of 85dB. That also happens to be the accepted noise threshold for an environment that can cause hearing damage.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: simons on Jan 18, 2013 at 02:34 PM
That's really how it should be. 0db is really very loud, as that equates to an average level of 85dB. That also happens to be the accepted noise threshold for an environment that can cause hearing damage.

So it is not an issue at all. Haay salamat, thank you po MASTER STAGEA for you quick response.  I thought mali yon audio set up ko. Newbie po ako when it comes to electronic world.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 18, 2013 at 03:55 PM
Sir Stagea,

sa HDMI pass thru po ba ng 521k kadalasan hinde gumagana? kasi every time na paptayin ko ang avr namatay din display ng tv ko
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jan 18, 2013 at 04:15 PM
Sir Stagea,

sa HDMI pass thru po ba ng 521k kadalasan hinde gumagana? kasi every time na paptayin ko ang avr namatay din display ng tv ko

Display lang namamatay or buong TV namamatay?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 18, 2013 at 04:19 PM
sir gagawin ko po sana kasi is manonood ako using may xtreamer elvira ng hinde na bubuskan yung PIO 521k ko kaso kapag pinpatay ko yung PIO 521k ko namamatay yung display sa tv
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jan 18, 2013 at 04:26 PM
sir gagawin ko po sana kasi is manonood ako using may xtreamer elvira ng hinde na bubuskan yung PIO 521k ko kaso kapag pinpatay ko yung PIO 521k ko namamatay yung display sa tv

I'd rephrase my question. Namamatay po ba ang TV or nawawala lang ang picture?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 18, 2013 at 04:43 PM
nawawalan lang sir ng display pero na on pa rin sya
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jan 18, 2013 at 04:55 PM
nawawalan lang sir ng display pero na on pa rin sya

HDMI CEC needs to work for HDMI Passthrough in these devices to work. Check if both your player and your TV support CEC. Most media tanks / players do not support CEC.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 18, 2013 at 07:45 PM
salamat sir stagea Sony46bx450 po ang tv ko and and xtreamer elvira naman ang player ko
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: gboy on Jan 23, 2013 at 11:12 AM
sir' ask lang po... ano po ba pinagkaiba ng 521k sa 522k? plano ko kasi magset ng HT (entry level lang)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Xanxan on Jan 23, 2013 at 01:01 PM
sir' ask lang po... ano po ba pinagkaiba ng 521k sa 522k? plano ko kasi magset ng HT (entry level lang)

ang diffference nung 522 may usb input sya sa harap, at pwede sa ipod o iphone,  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: gboy on Jan 23, 2013 at 01:16 PM
ok sir' be getting the 521k nalang.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 23, 2013 at 01:45 PM
ang diffference nung 522 may usb input sya sa harap, at pwede sa ipod o iphone,  :)
wala pa pala sa 521 yan...ung 1021 ko before meron....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 23, 2013 at 04:05 PM
Pioneer LX-86 / SC-68 Mini Review

Just recently got a local unit of Pioneer LX-86 which is basically the same as the Pioneer Elite SC-68 in the US. Here are my newbie take on its SQ and performance...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8055/8394274939_b901ab18e2_z.jpg)

(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/wetcute/2013-01-22-0551_zps99c4c3ad.jpg)

Pros:
Powerful Class D amplification
Clear, Detailed, Crisp surround sound
Very very good dialogue output
Extensive network remote (I’m using iOS)
Acceptable Surround Sound Calibration
Above average 2-channel audio SQ
Very competitive local price
 
Cons:
Centralized Speaker Crossover Settings (no individual settings for each speaker) – this is my main gripe
Lack of bass management in calibration
No built in wifi ;D

Overall with Pioneer LX-86’s pricing, this is already a very good buy compared with other brand’s top models which cost around 100K+

The Class D amplification is actually very good that it could drive my 9 speakers including the Goldenear floorstander Trion 2 with ease and finesse :)

Will stress test further this monster AVR during the weekend ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 23, 2013 at 04:56 PM
Pioneer LX-86 / SC-68 Mini Review

Just recently got a local unit of Pioneer LX-86 which is basically the same as the Pioneer Elite SC-68 in the US. Here are my newbie take on its SQ and performance...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8055/8394274939_b901ab18e2_z.jpg)

(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/wetcute/2013-01-22-0551_zps99c4c3ad.jpg)

Pros:
Powerful Class D amplification
Clear, Detailed, Crisp surround sound
Very very good dialogue output
Extensive network remote (I’m using iOS)
Acceptable Surround Sound Calibration
Above average 2-channel audio SQ
Very competitive local price
 
Cons:
Centralized Speaker Crossover Settings (no individual settings for each speaker) – this is my main gripe
Lack of bass management in calibration
No built in wifi ;D

Overall with Pioneer LX-86’s pricing, this is already a very good buy compared with other brand’s top models which cost around 100K+

The Class D amplification is actually very good that it could drive my 9 speakers including the Goldenear floorstander Trion 2 with ease and finesse :)

Will stress test further this monster AVR during the weekend ;D


congrats sis......way to go.....ilang months to tatagal?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 23, 2013 at 05:19 PM
congrats sis......way to go.....ilang months to tatagal?

Naku po kaya nagdadalawang isip akong magpost ng review eh... ^-^

Wag na yan para walang OT, hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 23, 2013 at 05:22 PM
Naku po kaya nagdadalawang isip akong magpost ng review eh... ^-^

Wag na yan para walang OT, hehehe ;D

Bro i think you are versed enough with sub settings to overcome the con of bass management by the avr.  Besides, you'd probably asjust things manually anyway after mcacc calibration. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 23, 2013 at 05:38 PM
Bro i think you are versed enough with sub settings to overcome the con of bass management by the avr.  Besides, you'd probably asjust things manually anyway after mcacc calibration. :)

Yan pa pala ang isa sa mga Pros ng Pioneer AVR. You have the full option to adjust and manipulate the calibration settings... I'm just wondering why Pioneer didn't include the individual speaker crossover adjustment...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 23, 2013 at 05:48 PM
Yan pa pala ang isa sa mga Pros ng Pioneer AVR. You have the full option to adjust and manipulate the calibration settings... I'm just wondering why Pioneer didn't include the individual speaker crossover adjustment...

Matagal ko narin pinagisipan yan and i have no freaking answer to this day hahahaha.  Maybe the more senior pioneer owners have an answer.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Xanxan on Jan 23, 2013 at 08:26 PM
Pioneer LX-86 / SC-68 Mini Review

Just recently got a local unit of Pioneer LX-86 which is basically the same as the Pioneer Elite SC-68 in the US. Here are my newbie take on its SQ and performance...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8055/8394274939_b901ab18e2_z.jpg)

(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/wetcute/2013-01-22-0551_zps99c4c3ad.jpg)

Pros:
Powerful Class D amplification
Clear, Detailed, Crisp surround sound
Very very good dialogue output
Extensive network remote (I’m using iOS)
Acceptable Surround Sound Calibration
Above average 2-channel audio SQ
Very competitive local price
 
Cons:
Centralized Speaker Crossover Settings (no individual settings for each speaker) – this is my main gripe
Lack of bass management in calibration
No built in wifi ;D

Overall with Pioneer LX-86’s pricing, this is already a very good buy compared with other brand’s top models which cost around 100K+

The Class D amplification is actually very good that it could drive my 9 speakers including the Goldenear floorstander Trion 2 with ease and finesse :)

Will stress test further this monster AVR during the weekend ;D

congrats sis......way to go.....ilang months to tatagal?
Pioneer LX-86 / SC-68 Mini Review

Just recently got a local unit of Pioneer LX-86 which is basically the same as the Pioneer Elite SC-68 in the US. Here are my newbie take on its SQ and performance...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8055/8394274939_b901ab18e2_z.jpg)

(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/wetcute/2013-01-22-0551_zps99c4c3ad.jpg)

Pros:
Powerful Class D amplification
Clear, Detailed, Crisp surround sound
Very very good dialogue output
Extensive network remote (I’m using iOS)
Acceptable Surround Sound Calibration
Above average 2-channel audio SQ
Very competitive local price
 
Cons:
Centralized Speaker Crossover Settings (no individual settings for each speaker) – this is my main gripe
Lack of bass management in calibration
No built in wifi ;D

Overall with Pioneer LX-86’s pricing, this is already a very good buy compared with other brand’s top models which cost around 100K+

The Class D amplification is actually very good that it could drive my 9 speakers including the Goldenear floorstander Trion 2 with ease and finesse :)

Will stress test further this monster AVR during the weekend ;D


congrats sir! monster talaga yan hehe fanalo :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 23, 2013 at 09:01 PM
Yan pa pala ang isa sa mga Pros ng Pioneer AVR. You have the full option to adjust and manipulate the calibration settings... I'm just wondering why Pioneer didn't include the individual speaker crossover adjustment...
visit the link below baka may mga tips for other settings

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1422205/official-pioneer-sc-68-67-thread
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 23, 2013 at 09:04 PM
visit the link below baka may mga tips for other settings

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1422205/official-pioneer-sc-68-67-thread

I've been posting there na brader... ;D
Nangungulit sa mga foreign papas, hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jan 23, 2013 at 09:06 PM
lack of bass within calibration.
ganun ata talaga ang pio avr
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 23, 2013 at 09:08 PM
I've been posting there na brader... ;D
Nangungulit sa mga foreign papas, hehehe
powerful ba sis yang pio compare sa nahuli? musta character hindi naman bright? pero i dont think bright and warm will be character for such wonderful amp..bahala na si mcacc to do and produce the right combination of sound
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 23, 2013 at 09:18 PM
congrats sis......way to go.....ilang months to tatagal?

Haha sabi na babanatan siya na ganyan kasi yung review ni louie may negative di satisfied. So hulaan ko 6 months ang itatagal? hahah
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 23, 2013 at 09:41 PM
lack of bass within calibration.
ganun ata talaga ang pio avr

Actually hindi cya lacking ng bass sis. Acceptable naman yung bass calib, mas extensive nga lang yung bass management/calibration ng XT32...

powerful ba sis yang pio compare sa nahuli? musta character hindi naman bright? pero i dont think bright and warm will be character for such wonderful amp..bahala na si mcacc to do and produce the right combination of sound

Hmmm. I think parehong powerful ang 5009 and LX-86. Nagkakatalo na lang sila sa how will they sound to the listener... Ika nga nila, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder ;D

Haha sabi na babanatan siya na ganyan kasi yung review ni louie may negative di satisfied. So hulaan ko 6 months ang itatagal? hahah

Loko ka sis. Cyempre wala namang perfect AVR kaya I sighted the Pros and Cons para balanced and without being biased. Sighting some cons doesn't mean dissatisfaction ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 23, 2013 at 10:00 PM
hahaha.. sinusubukan ka lang ni elms para bilhin nya na yan haha..
ah ok...sarap ng airplay dyan brader...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jan 23, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Actually hindi cya lacking ng bass sis. Acceptable naman yung bass calib, mas extensive nga lang yung bass management/calibration ng XT32...
mas maganda talaga calibration ng ibang amp vs pio macc base in some reviews
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 25, 2013 at 12:40 PM
sir may nakagamit na ba ng pio vsx 920k? kamusta naman?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM
sir may nakagamit na ba ng pio vsx 920k? kamusta naman?

get 1020 instead....pero 920 will be ok...anung speaker gamit?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 25, 2013 at 01:26 PM
wharf diamond 9.2 sir, i wonder if its have a HDMI pass thru?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Xanxan on Jan 25, 2013 at 01:53 PM
sir may nakagamit na ba ng pio vsx 920k? kamusta naman?

ok din yung 920 yan gamit ko dati kaya nya ang 9.2 mo. sa pagkaka alam ko wala syang hdmi passthrough. mga 2011 models pataas yan meron na :-)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Jan 25, 2013 at 03:50 PM
ah ok sir salamat pO!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 26, 2013 at 11:14 PM
Pure Direct mode on SC-LX86... ^-^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZvh6qboixI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZvh6qboixI)

PS - Si "Noel" Cabangon po yan ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jan 27, 2013 at 12:30 AM
Pure Direct mode on SC-LX86... ^-^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZvh6qboixI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZvh6qboixI)

PS - Si "Noel" Cabangon po yan ;D
i shoot mo sa duetto mo sis ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 27, 2013 at 09:18 AM
i shoot mo sa duetto mo sis ;)

Gawin natin yan sa Sabado sis... :)

Maganda din talaga yung implementation ng Pioneer sa Class D amps. Never nabitin yung Triton 2
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jan 27, 2013 at 09:23 AM
Gawin natin yan sa Sabado sis... :)

Maganda din talaga yung implementation ng Pioneer sa Class D amps. Never nabitin yung Triton 2
so pagipunan ko na to? ;D
bulungan moko sa terms oki ;)
wahaha!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 27, 2013 at 09:28 AM
so pagipunan ko na to? ;D
bulungan moko sa terms oki ;)
wahaha!

Oi ano ka nakita mo ba yung post sa thread ni louie ang lalaki ako una sa pila.. wahaha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jan 27, 2013 at 09:30 AM
Oi ano ka nakita mo ba yung post sa thread ni louie ang lalaki ako una sa pila.. wahaha
mura emo5 ngayon.mas bagay sayo yun :P
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 27, 2013 at 10:30 AM
madadala kaya natin ung watt meter? hehe..gusto ko makita ung power cons ni d3 in action...
ganda ganda...high end hihihihi....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 27, 2013 at 10:36 AM
mura emo5 ngayon.mas bagay sayo yun :P

Dami niyo alam basta D3 pa din ako. Isa lang ayaw ko nag power amp or ano pa naman.

madadala kaya natin ung watt meter? hehe..gusto ko makita ung power cons ni d3 in action...
ganda ganda...high end hihihihi....

Nabalik na kay raffy nun yung watt meter niya so check mo na lang kay raff. Yan din ang like ko makita kasi PIO claim na efficient sa kuryente ung D3 nila eco friendly kumbaga.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: comgen on Jan 27, 2013 at 10:48 AM
sir may nakagamit na ba ng pio vsx 920k? kamusta naman?

Happy Pioneer VSX 920 User for more than a year here :). 
   Sources ko is Ipad classic na luma via yung libreng kasamang cable
   HTPC/Gaing PC Via HDMI

wala naman problem so far except di ko alam pano mag play ng music habang nakapatay yung TV, hindi kc nadedetect ng HTPC yung AVR pag nakaoff yung TV :(
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 27, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Happy Pioneer VSX 920 User for more than a year here :). 
   Sources ko is Ipad classic na luma via yung libreng kasamang cable
   HTPC/Gaing PC Via HDMI

wala naman problem so far except di ko alam pano mag play ng music habang nakapatay yung TV, hindi kc nadedetect ng HTPC yung AVR pag nakaoff yung TV :(
off mo ung hdmi control...
dapat working yan kahit patay ung tv
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: comgen on Jan 27, 2013 at 11:06 AM
off mo ung hdmi control...
dapat working yan kahit patay ung tv

sige sir raider will do it :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM
madadala kaya natin ung watt meter? hehe..gusto ko makita ung power cons ni d3 in action...
ganda ganda...high end hihihihi....

Magugulat ka sa power consumption ng class D. Masmaganda kung i-compare side by side sa class A/B receiver. Same settings, xover points etc.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 27, 2013 at 12:13 PM
sige sir raider will do it :)
derick nalang hehehe..

efren nelson...mukha nga hehe....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 27, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Meron ako watt meter ;D
Ano pat naging EE ako, wahahaha ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 27, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Meron ako watt meter ;D
Ano pat naging EE ako, wahahaha ;D

Hahaha sabagay..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 27, 2013 at 01:15 PM
Meron ako watt meter ;D
Ano pat naging EE ako, wahahaha ;D

Efren Engineer?  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 27, 2013 at 04:12 PM
Efren Engineer?  ;D

Korek Master Nelson, hehehehe ;D

Eto power consumption ng SC-LX86 @ -12db ^-^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEwYV8tqtlU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEwYV8tqtlU)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: majoe on Jan 29, 2013 at 01:23 PM
Pure Direct mode on SC-LX86... ^-^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZvh6qboixI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZvh6qboixI)

PS - Si "Noel" Cabangon po yan ;D

proud owner of lx-86 :)
when it comes to music, i prefer stereo mode and play it thru usb port. 
i noticed that sound is much cleaner and more dynamic as compared to hdmi.
i guess it's the internal usb dac that makes wonders.
   
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 29, 2013 at 02:17 PM
proud owner of lx-86 :)
when it comes to music, i prefer stereo mode and play it thru usb port. 
i noticed that sound is much cleaner and more dynamic as compared to hdmi.
i guess it's the internal usb dac that makes wonders.
   

Sir USB port using your laptop or USB storage?
USB port sa likod po ba gamit nyo?
Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 29, 2013 at 02:19 PM
Korek Master Nelson, hehehehe ;D

Eto power consumption ng SC-LX86 @ -12db ^-^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEwYV8tqtlU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEwYV8tqtlU)

langya max 69watts load or without load
100w idle nga ako hehehe..

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jan 29, 2013 at 02:51 PM
Korek Master Nelson, hehehehe ;D

Eto power consumption ng SC-LX86 @ -12db ^-^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEwYV8tqtlU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEwYV8tqtlU)
lou nasubukan mo i-check consumption kung walang aircon?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 29, 2013 at 03:28 PM
lou nasubukan mo i-check consumption kung walang aircon?


Walang aircon yan joks ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 29, 2013 at 03:30 PM
Walang aircon yan joks ;)

may kinalaman ba ung aircon?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 29, 2013 at 03:37 PM
may kinalaman ba ung aircon?

Para daw malamig yung amp. Walang heat loss ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 29, 2013 at 03:43 PM
Para daw malamig yung amp. Walang heat loss ;D

hehehe....
nagiinit ba sya?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 29, 2013 at 04:05 PM
hehehe....
nagiinit ba sya?

Halos wala brader.
Efficient nga siya ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 29, 2013 at 04:09 PM
Halos wala brader.
Efficient nga siya ;D

Si louie lang ang nag iinit hahaha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 29, 2013 at 04:45 PM
Halos wala brader.
Efficient nga siya ;D

good sarap talaga magupgrade ng D3 ng PIONEEER

Si louie lang ang nag iinit hahaha
OT ka !!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: majoe on Jan 29, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Sir USB port using your laptop or USB storage?
USB port sa likod po ba gamit nyo?
Thanks

USB storage sa harap sir.  Di ko pa na try sa likod using laptop. Kung sa likod tingin ko baka maapektuhan din ang sound quality nun dahil gagamit pa rin ng mahabang usb cable kumpara sa harap na halos direct na.  di rin ako sure kasi baka naman may kinalaman din sa built in player ng unit pag sa harap kaya may napansin akong difference.  pa validate na lang sir :)  thanks.   
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 29, 2013 at 10:24 PM
USB storage sa harap sir.  Di ko pa na try sa likod using laptop. Kung sa likod tingin ko baka maapektuhan din ang sound quality nun dahil gagamit pa rin ng mahabang usb cable kumpara sa harap na halos direct na.  di rin ako sure kasi baka naman may kinalaman din sa built in player ng unit pag sa harap kaya may napansin akong difference.  pa validate na lang sir :)  thanks.   

Flash drive lang ba gamit nyo sir? What format?
Coz I tried connecting my 500gb external drive na NTFS pero di nya mabasa... :(

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 29, 2013 at 10:25 PM
Flash drive lang ba gamit nyo sir? What format?
Coz I tried connecting my 500gb external drive na NTFS pero di nya mabasa... :(

Thanks :)
baka fat32 lang or smaller capacity na HD...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: majoe on Jan 29, 2013 at 10:37 PM
Flash drive lang ba gamit nyo sir? What format?
Coz I tried connecting my 500gb external drive na NTFS pero di nya mabasa... :(

Thanks :)

flash drive lang sir.  naka fat32.
di ko rin napagana external drive.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 29, 2013 at 10:54 PM
flash drive lang sir.  naka fat32.
di ko rin napagana external drive.


I see. Ok sir thanks!!! :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Jan 30, 2013 at 09:19 AM
Ask lang mga sir, compatible ba ang Mirage Omni S8 sub sa Pio 521?

Here's the specs of S8:

Amplifier Power Output         100 Watts RMS, 400 Watts Dynamic Power

Variable Low Pass Filter         Yes

System Type         Powered Front firing Subwoofer with Down firing port

Max. Load Weight (lbs)         29 lbs. lb / 13.4 kg

Frequency Response         27Hz-120Hz

Part Number         13645

Input         Low Level, Stereo High Level (Speaker Level)

Overall Dimensions         cm: 37H x 30W x 39D

woofer         8" woofer with ribbed elliptical surround™
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Jan 30, 2013 at 09:25 AM
Ask lang mga sir, compatible ba ang Mirage Omni S8 sub sa Pio 521?

Here's the specs of S8:

Amplifier Power Output         100 Watts RMS, 400 Watts Dynamic Power

Variable Low Pass Filter         Yes

System Type         Powered Front firing Subwoofer with Down firing port

Max. Load Weight (lbs)         29 lbs. lb / 13.4 kg

Frequency Response         27Hz-120Hz

Part Number         13645

Input         Low Level, Stereo High Level (Speaker Level)

Overall Dimensions         cm: 37H x 30W x 39D

woofer         8" woofer with ribbed elliptical surround™

powered ang s8 so any avr will do
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 30, 2013 at 09:14 PM
Was able to test Pioneer LX-86's USB audio playback...

Here's a sample...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmWgEho78rk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmWgEho78rk)

Now versus played through HDMI using a bluray player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZvh6qboixI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZvh6qboixI)

Kindly choose the highest quality resolution ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 30, 2013 at 09:19 PM
Was able to test Pioneer LX-86's USB audio playback...

Here's a sample...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmWgEho78rk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmWgEho78rk)

Now versus played through HDMI using a bluray player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZvh6qboixI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZvh6qboixI)

Kindly choose the highest quality resolution ;)
magkaiba ung kanta hehe...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Hammerheart on Jan 30, 2013 at 09:23 PM
Any inputs on vs. 1121k?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 30, 2013 at 09:25 PM
Any inputs on vs. 1121k?

thats better kesa sa mga lumabas na 22 series...
same specs na yan ng elite...

louie ill go for the usb kesa vs hdmi connection mas nagandahan ako dun sa usb ....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 31, 2013 at 06:52 AM
Any inputs on vs. 1121k?

Class D na siya. Proprietary ng Pioneeer. Danda din yan.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Jan 31, 2013 at 07:02 AM
Class D na siya. Proprietary ng Pioneeer. Danda din yan.

Class AB ata yung VSX-1121-K, Master N.

MOSFET based siya na Class AB design. Pioneer markets this as "Advanced Direct Energy" amplification.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 31, 2013 at 07:05 AM
Class AB ata yung VSX-1121-K, Master N.

MOSFET based siya na Class AB design. Pioneer markets this as "Advanced Direct Energy" amplification.

Ay oo nga master Shifu. "Advanced" nga. Did not read it properly. Thanks for the correction.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 31, 2013 at 09:39 AM
pero ganda na din yan..before yan target ko after owning 1021 hehehe
may pre-out kasi..future proof
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: majoe on Feb 01, 2013 at 09:32 PM
Flash drive lang ba gamit nyo sir? What format?
Coz I tried connecting my 500gb external drive na NTFS pero di nya mabasa... :(

Thanks :)

Napagana ko na ang external drive. Need lang i format sa fat32. Nag dowload lang ako sa net ng utility :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 01, 2013 at 11:08 PM
Napagana ko na ang external drive. Need lang i format sa fat32. Nag dowload lang ako sa net ng utility :)

good knews.. louie you may have a preffered hd for music if you like to reformat it to fat32 as our movies will not work for that..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Feb 01, 2013 at 11:16 PM
Napagana ko na ang external drive. Need lang i format sa fat32. Nag dowload lang ako sa net ng utility :)


You dont need a utility just format it at the command prompt.

Quote
C:\Users>format /?
Formats a disk for use with Windows.

FORMAT volume [/FS:file-system] [/V:label] [/Q] [/A:size] [/C] [/X] [/P:passes]
[/S:state]
FORMAT volume [/V:label] [/Q] [/F:size] [/P:passes]
FORMAT volume [/V:label] [/Q] [/T:tracks /N:sectors] [/P:passes]
FORMAT volume [/V:label] [/Q] [/P:passes]
FORMAT volume [/Q]

  volume          Specifies the drive letter (followed by a colon),
                  mount point, or volume name.
  /FS:filesystem  Specifies the type of the file system (FAT, FAT32, exFAT, NTFS
,

 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 01, 2013 at 11:18 PM

You dont need a utility just format it at the command prompt.

 ;) ;) ;)
may limitation ung dos sa hard drive capacity...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Feb 01, 2013 at 11:23 PM
may limitation ung dos sa hard drive capacity...

sa tingin ko kaya niya ang 1TB or higher. Gaano ba kalaki ang format mo sa FAT32? ;)

Quote
/A:size         Overrides the default allocation unit size. Default settings
                are strongly recommended for general use.
                NTFS supports 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16K, 32K, 64K.
                FAT supports 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16K, 32K, 64K,
                (128K, 256K for sector size > 512 bytes).
                FAT32 supports 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16K, 32K, 64K,
                (128K, 256K for sector size > 512 bytes).
                exFAT supports 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16K, 32K, 64K,
                128K, 256K, 512K, 1M, 2M, 4M, 8M, 16M, 32M.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 02, 2013 at 12:01 AM
good knews.. louie you may have a preffered hd for music if you like to reformat it to fat32 as our movies will not work for that..


Di na muna... May NP30 naman for flac playback. Hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 02, 2013 at 12:03 AM
Di na muna... May NP30 naman for flac palyback. Hehehe
alam ko naman ayan ang sagot mo hehe.. buti nga hindi ko sinabi na...hindi ka magaudio dyan sa pio mo hahaha...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: majoe on Feb 02, 2013 at 11:54 AM

You dont need a utility just format it at the command prompt.

 ;) ;) ;)

Yan ang una kong ginawa. Sobrang bagal, nainip ako. Sinubukan ko sa windows, 32gb ang max size. Kaya nag search ako ng utilty. Less than 5secs, formatted agad :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: majoe on Feb 02, 2013 at 12:06 PM
alam ko naman ayan ang sagot mo hehe.. buti nga hindi ko sinabi na...hindi ka magaudio dyan sa pio mo hahaha...

Pang movie lang talaga ni louie ang pio :) sayang naman kasi ang binuo nyang high end na pang audio, di hamak naman na mas maganda magpatugtog dun. Ako, solb nako dito. Dati talaga plan ko mag setup ng dedicated para sa audio, pero nang mag upgrade ako sa lx86, kinancel ko na :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Hammerheart on Feb 02, 2013 at 12:43 PM
thats better kesa sa mga lumabas na 22 series...
same specs na yan ng elite...


Great for movies. Still not so great on audio but it is a receiver anyway. Ganda Lang features, loaded. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Feb 02, 2013 at 01:01 PM
Pang movie lang talaga ni louie ang pio :) sayang naman ang binuo nyang high end na pang audio, di hamak naman na mas maganda dun. Ako, solb nako dito. Dati talaga plan ko mag setup ng dedicated para sa audio, pero ng mag upgrade ako sa lx86, sabi ko wag na muna :)

He uses a tube amp for the audio set up.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: byakuya on Feb 03, 2013 at 12:13 PM
mga master, i'll be having a pioneer 921-k (u.s. model), need some advise what speakers to pair with, music and movies (70-30).
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 03, 2013 at 12:19 PM
Great for movies. Still not so great on audio but it is a receiver anyway. Ganda Lang features, loaded. :)
yup i agree.....lalo na kapag madami ng napakingang setup...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 03, 2013 at 12:22 PM
mga master, i'll be having a pioneer 921-k (u.s. model), need some advise what speakers to pair with, music and movies (70-30).

Whats your budget sir?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 03, 2013 at 12:22 PM
yup i agree.....lalo na kapag madami ng napakingang setup...

Pwede na ba SQ nung LX-86 sis? ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 03, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Pwede na ba SQ nung LX-86 sis? ;D
pwede SIS ..badtrip lang wala ako sa sweet spot...tsk tsk tsk...
nakatutok tenga ko dun sa aon haha...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 03, 2013 at 12:59 PM
pwede SIS ..badtrip lang wala ako sa sweet spot...tsk tsk tsk...
nakatutok tenga ko dun sa aon haha...

Si joko ayain mo... Punta kayo dito... ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 03, 2013 at 01:00 PM
Si joko ayain mo... Punta kayo dito... ;D
tsk tsk tsk...
si elmira ang kakaladkad saken..hirap ng walang auto haha..lalo na kapag gusto gumala hehe..
pero ganda nyang pio lalo na sa power consumption hehe..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Feb 03, 2013 at 03:47 PM
mga master, i'll be having a pioneer 921-k (u.s. model), need some advise what speakers to pair with, music and movies (70-30).

Pio wharf and pio b&w pa lang subok ko with the 921-k.  I have no complaints with either of the 2 set ups.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Hammerheart on Feb 03, 2013 at 05:25 PM
921k sounds very good for the price. Clarity is top notch. A bit bright if you go loud. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 03, 2013 at 07:15 PM
921k sounds very good for the price. Clarity is top notch. A bit bright if you go loud. :)

May feature ang Pio sa roll off ng highs ng EQ. Try mo ibaba yun. baka nakataas pa.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: byakuya on Feb 04, 2013 at 12:09 AM
Whats your budget sir?

i would like to invest on 2 speakers first(front) 15k would be my max, and hopefully soon 5.1.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 04, 2013 at 01:24 AM
i would like to invest on 2 speakers first(front) 15k would be my max, and hopefully soon 5.1.
pioneer hmmmMmmmm

i may suggest you get diamond 10.5 or a-audio fs
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Feb 04, 2013 at 01:46 AM
or get the 9.3 then let it tweaked by master A
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Hammerheart on Feb 04, 2013 at 02:47 AM
May feature ang Pio sa roll off ng highs ng EQ. Try mo ibaba yun. baka nakataas pa.

Di ko na na tweak settings ng 921k master, Audi ko lang. :)
Demoed to a friend...contemplating if I have to stick with the 1121k which a very good receiver or get an onkyo 875 :) salawahan hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 04, 2013 at 09:29 AM
Di ko na na tweak settings ng 921k master, Audi ko lang. :)
Demoed to a friend...contemplating if I have to stick with the 1121k which a very good receiver or get an onkyo 875 :) salawahan hehehe

Hindi bagay sa iyo ang mga midlevel.  ;D Mga LX series ka na. IMHO, future proof naman siya kasi madaming features. Get the class D amp na model.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Feb 05, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Mga sir ask ko lang paanu ko po ba ma adjust and Bass and Treble ng Pioneer VSX 920k? wala po kasi naka indicate sa remote nya im just wondering if i can adjust it thru front panel ng AVR? thanks..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Xanxan on Feb 05, 2013 at 01:11 PM
Mga sir ask ko lang paanu ko po ba ma adjust and Bass and Treble ng Pioneer VSX 920k? wala po kasi naka indicate sa remote nya im just wondering if i can adjust it thru front panel ng AVR? thanks..

I press mo yung audio parameter ng remote bro
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Feb 05, 2013 at 01:14 PM
I press mo yung audio parameter ng remote bro
nagawa ko na yun sir pero parang wala akong nakitang options dun to adjust bass and treble
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Xanxan on Feb 05, 2013 at 01:31 PM
nagawa ko na yun sir pero parang wala akong nakitang options dun to adjust bass and treble

try mo ng naka stereo mode ka bro,tapos saka mo i check sa audio parameter, check mo kung may tone control
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Feb 05, 2013 at 02:19 PM
ok sir noted sana makita ko kagad maraming salamt sir!! ^-^
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Randy1981 on Feb 05, 2013 at 02:37 PM
Mga sir ano po level ng pio vsx 1022 or 1122?high end n po ba?thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Feb 05, 2013 at 03:23 PM
ang alam ko sir sa line ng VSX sila so far ang high end pero ELITE version talaga ang pinka high end nila
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 05, 2013 at 03:28 PM
ang alam ko sir sa line ng VSX sila so far ang high end pero ELITE version talaga ang pinka high end nila

For Asian Market ata yung SC-LX line ang top end ng Pioneer.
Sa US are yung Elite models...
Pero same specs lang sila, mas maganda nga lang yung sa US kasi may Elite sa harap, hehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Hammerheart on Feb 05, 2013 at 03:31 PM
Hindi bagay sa iyo ang mga midlevel.  ;D Mga LX series ka na. IMHO, future proof naman siya kasi madaming features. Get the class D amp na model.

Pag yumaman ako master gaya mo  na ko LX series hehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Randy1981 on Feb 05, 2013 at 03:42 PM
But the 1022 or 1122 is enough n ba to power the wharf. 10.5 or 10.7?match din ba sila?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 05, 2013 at 03:51 PM
But the 1022 or 1122 is enough n ba to power the wharf. 10.5 or 10.7?match din ba sila?
1121 nalang kunin mo.....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Feb 05, 2013 at 03:51 PM
Mga sir ask ko lang paanu ko po ba ma adjust and Bass and Treble ng Pioneer VSX 920k? wala po kasi naka indicate sa remote nya im just wondering if i can adjust it thru front panel ng AVR? thanks..

sir bukod sa sinabi ni sir Xanxan para ma adjust ko ang bass and treble may alam pa po ba kayong ibang way? thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Feb 05, 2013 at 04:13 PM
sir bukod sa sinabi ni sir Xanxan para ma adjust ko ang bass and treble may alam pa po ba kayong ibang way? thanks

Only other way i can think of ismthrough the EQ.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Feb 05, 2013 at 04:43 PM
ok sir will try to tweak that thanks!!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 05, 2013 at 07:38 PM
Pag yumaman ako master gaya mo  na ko LX series hehe

Walang tatalo sa iyo. masmadalas ka pang magpalit ng gears kesa magbihis. Hehe! Elite ka na! Trust me, tatagal sa iyo yan ng 3 years minimum.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Feb 05, 2013 at 08:57 PM
nagawa ko na yun sir pero parang wala akong nakitang options dun to adjust bass and treble
download manual tru net in pdf
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Randy1981 on Feb 05, 2013 at 09:08 PM
How much po kaya price ng pio vsx 1122?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Hammerheart on Feb 05, 2013 at 11:18 PM
MgA 25k siguro sir. Us version 110v. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Feb 05, 2013 at 11:30 PM
Walang tatalo sa iyo. masmadalas ka pang magpalit ng gears kesa magbihis.

Grabe ka naman manlait, Master N. Parang sinabi mo na every other day lang nagbibihis si Tormentor sa statement mo. :P
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Hammerheart on Feb 06, 2013 at 01:37 AM
Hehehe is master Nelson anlakas ng pang amoy.....hehehehe

Every 3 years ako bago mag palit master :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Feb 06, 2013 at 01:51 AM
Hehehe is master Nelson anlakas ng pang amoy.....hehehehe

Every 3 years ako bago mag palit master :)
so every 4 years ang palit ng damit ::)
si konsi talaga oo...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Feb 06, 2013 at 12:30 PM
download manual tru net in pdf

sir joke may original manual po ako pero wla akong makita dun na options paanu mag adjust ng bass and treble
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: AppleMan on Feb 06, 2013 at 02:01 PM
Sino po mas ok sa dalawa Pio VSX-1122-K o yung Denon AVR-2313 o AVR-1913 ? balak ko po kasing bumili nito kaso kailangan ko opinion nyo mga Master kung sino mas ok sa tatlo..TIA!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 06, 2013 at 02:42 PM
Sino po mas ok sa dalawa Pio VSX-1122-K o yung Denon AVR-2313 o AVR-1913 ? balak ko po kasing bumili nito kaso kailangan ko opinion nyo mga Master kung sino mas ok sa tatlo..TIA!

Hindi ako Master sir pero I'll try to suggest...

If you will the receiver for lets say 80% Ht and 20% audio sa Pioneer ako.
If 50/50 mas prefer ko ang Denon coz mas musical ang Denon compared to Pioneer, because sometimes Pioneer tend to be bright...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Feb 06, 2013 at 03:42 PM
sir ok lang ba na pagsabayin ko ang CH1 and CH2?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 06, 2013 at 11:45 PM
Sino po mas ok sa dalawa Pio VSX-1122-K o yung Denon AVR-2313 o AVR-1913 ? balak ko po kasing bumili nito kaso kailangan ko opinion nyo mga Master kung sino mas ok sa tatlo..TIA!
Denon 2313 bro between the 2 denon.  not sure about pio though, kinukulam palang ako ni louie dyan sa pio na yan eh :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joko11 on Feb 07, 2013 at 12:07 AM
sir joke may original manual po ako pero wla akong makita dun na options paanu mag adjust ng bass and treble
wala sa remote yung bass  treble?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Hammerheart on Feb 07, 2013 at 03:40 AM
so every 4 years ang palit ng damit ::)
si konsi talaga oo...

:) :) :)

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Hammerheart on Feb 07, 2013 at 03:42 AM
Sino po mas ok sa dalawa Pio VSX-1122-K o yung Denon AVR-2313 o AVR-1913 ? balak ko po kasing bumili nito kaso kailangan ko opinion nyo mga Master kung sino mas ok sa tatlo..TIA!

If pio choice mo I will consider the 2011 model vsx 1121k, sa dami ng features mas lamang sa 1022k.

:)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Feb 07, 2013 at 11:38 AM
Sino po mas ok sa dalawa Pio VSX-1122-K o yung Denon AVR-2313 o AVR-1913 ? balak ko po kasing bumili nito kaso kailangan ko opinion nyo mga Master kung sino mas ok sa tatlo..TIA!
or you could save on 5000 go for pioneer lx53
If you have a subwoofer the, denon 2313 can EQ it, while the 1121 can't.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Feb 07, 2013 at 12:02 PM
1121 and 2313 isn't a fair comparison. price wise 1121 is closer to a 2113 and a 2313 is closer to a lx56.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Kakashi03 on Feb 07, 2013 at 12:03 PM
wala sa remote yung bass  treble?

wala sir joko
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Philander on Feb 22, 2013 at 08:25 AM
Pioneer VSX-519 on sale - Php 7,990.00
Pioneer VSX-522 on sale - Php 10,990.00
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mc03_12 on Feb 22, 2013 at 09:32 AM
any user po ng pioneer 819-h.

pano po iset ung equilizer nya manually?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ASuL on Feb 22, 2013 at 01:44 PM
i have an egreat media player and sa audio setting raw and LPCM lang po ang choices...what should i choose?

when i set all in raw nawala ang auido for mpeg, acc (yata)...basta parang yung dts and HD something lang na decode...

btw, i am, using a pioneer vsx 920. should i set the my receiver somehow as well?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Lanozoman on Mar 01, 2013 at 09:46 PM
Mga sir! Magkano kaya bentahan ng Pioneer vsx 1021k ngayon na used?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 01, 2013 at 09:48 PM
Mga sir! Magkano kaya bentahan ng Pioneer vsx 1021k ngayon na used?
i sold mine at 18k last year
so most likely plus or minus at 18k
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Lanozoman on Mar 01, 2013 at 09:54 PM
Thanks sir! :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Mar 05, 2013 at 04:54 PM
look here pioneer new receivers:
US model elite vsx 70:
http://bmc.brandsmartusa.com/ProductData/ProductFiles/20160067.pdf (http://bmc.brandsmartusa.com/ProductData/ProductFiles/20160067.pdf)
VSX-1023
http://img.almo.com/_Assets/Pioneer/PDF/VSX1023K-Spec.pdf (http://img.almo.com/_Assets/Pioneer/PDF/VSX1023K-Spec.pdf)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Mar 05, 2013 at 05:00 PM
Mga sir! Magkano kaya bentahan ng Pioneer vsx 1021k ngayon na used?
Meron sa HMR pioneer vsx-1022 being sold for 14,990. go check it if you are in search.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nicadraus on Mar 05, 2013 at 05:28 PM
Meron sa HMR pioneer vsx-1022 being sold for 14,990. go check it if you are in search.

Used unit ba yung binebenta sa HMR sir? 110v?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2fast2furious on Mar 06, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Used unit ba yung binebenta sa HMR sir? 110v?
yup its 110v. not sure if its used though. but they give 3 months warranty on the unit. most of the items sold here has no warranty.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nicadraus on Mar 06, 2013 at 11:32 AM
yup its 110v. not sure if its used though. but they give 3 months warranty on the unit. most of the items sold here has no warranty.

Ah ok. Thanks for the info. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Mar 06, 2013 at 01:26 PM
Pioneer VSX-519 on sale - Php 7,990.00
Pioneer VSX-522 on sale - Php 10,990.00

may pass through din po ba ang 522 katulad ng 521? tnx
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 06, 2013 at 01:50 PM
may pass through din po ba ang 522 katulad ng 521? tnx

iconlord?? wil ? kaw ba yan?

sa 21 series mahirap paganahin ang pass through
dapat mas ok na sya sa 22 series

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Mar 08, 2013 at 12:05 AM
hi guys, i might be one of Pio-owners very soon - vsx-522... who else currently have this?

good thing i waited a while longer until the price drop which i didn't expected... LOL!  but still due to limited budget, shall go for a 3.0 set-up initially =)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: AVerageJoe on Mar 08, 2013 at 12:59 PM
sir mhacman, how much is the 522? where is it available? im also looking at this av receiver.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Mar 08, 2013 at 02:34 PM
sir mhacman, how much is the 522? where is it available? im also looking at this av receiver.

I think I saw one at LIS mega, last time I visited, its on sale for 10k..



sa 21 series mahirap paganahin ang pass through
dapat mas ok na sya sa 22 series

This is true, I had a hard time making mine work. Though technically gumagana sya, kaya lang you need to have the avr turned on, if you turn it off wala ng sound.

I hope they already fixed it on 522
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Mar 08, 2013 at 03:04 PM
new European models.:
http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.areadvd.de%2Fhardware%2F2013%2Fpioneer_avrs2013.shtml (http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.areadvd.de%2Fhardware%2F2013%2Fpioneer_avrs2013.shtml)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Mar 08, 2013 at 10:40 PM
I think I saw one at LIS mega, last time I visited, its on sale for 10k..


yup, the least they can give it you is for 10K.. =)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: AVerageJoe on Mar 09, 2013 at 07:42 AM
thank you sir frank and mhacman for the heads up.  ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Mar 10, 2013 at 09:25 PM
iconlord?? wil ? kaw ba yan?

sa 21 series mahirap paganahin ang pass through
dapat mas ok na sya sa 22 series

ako nga to pre, panalo ang HT setup mo tulo laway ko hehe :) mukhang namimili din ng player yun 521 series kaya mahirap paganahin ang standby through... one time kasi gumana sya sa cheap next base player ko hehehe...

nag uumpisa pa lang ako sa hobby na to, kaya entry level lang muna setup ko :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Mar 10, 2013 at 09:30 PM
I think I saw one at LIS mega, last time I visited, its on sale for 10k..


This is true, I had a hard time making mine work. Though technically gumagana sya, kaya lang you need to have the avr turned on, if you turn it off wala ng sound.

I hope they already fixed it on 522

recently sold my relatively new VSX 521 and switch to VSX 522 instead.... sad to say, wala pong standby through ang 522 ng pio pero okay lang, di ko rin naman mapagana ang pass through ng 521 ko before :( may composite input connection ang 521 pero may usb input naman ang 522 :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Mar 11, 2013 at 04:57 PM
recently sold my relatively new VSX 521 and switch to VSX 522 instead.... sad to say, wala pong standby through ang 522 ng pio pero okay lang, di ko rin naman mapagana ang pass through ng 521 ko before :( may composite input connection ang 521 pero may usb input naman ang 522 :)

I saw in the 522's HDMI setting about "HDMITHRU" (mine I turned it to ON) though i haven't tried it with my LG 3D Bluray... will try this out soon.

what I have tried is its ARC function selecting the TV as input source  :) so I don't use an optical cable anymore when I watch TV programs or movie using the tv's built-in movie player.  Via ARC, you may control the volume of the receiver using the tv's remote...

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Mar 11, 2013 at 11:15 PM
guy's, just tried out and 522 has no "STAND BY PASS THROUGH" function.  So nor the 521 would have this.  You can't use 521/522 as a gateway between your BD/Game console and TV via HDMI IN & HDMI OUT -- while 521/522 is OFF.

As I only found "HDMITHRU" in 522, let's define it first:   
      - as per the Operating Instruction, it specifies the routing of the HDMI audio signal out of the reciever (set to AMP) or through the TV (set to THRU)

my current connections: (important to note though that my TV has an ARC feature so the TV's ARC is ON and the 522's ARC is also ON)
1.  BD player (or GAME console) to Pio 522's BD (or GAME) HDMI input using HDMI cable w/ Ethernet
2.  Pio 522 HDMI out to TV's HDMI IN w/ ARC using Monster Hi-Speed HDMI cable (w/ CEC)

scenario 1 in steps (BD player is considered as source):
 - 522 is unplugged from mains
 - BD player is plugged (but currently off)
 - turn ON the TV and press the input button (at this stage, TV can detect an HDMI signal but cannot recognize the type of source i.e. BD player)
 - select that HDMI source
 - BD player will automatically turn-on but will fail to show BD's home menu as the TV will say "NO Input".  It will leave the BD player ON

scenario 2 in steps (BD player is considered as source):
 - 522 is plugged (but currently off)
 - BD player is plugged (but currently off)
 - turn on the TV and press input button (at this stage, TV can detect an HDMI signal but cannot recognize the type of source i.e. BD player)
 - select that HDMI source
 - BD player will automatically turn-on but will fail to show BD's home menu as the TV will say "NO Input".  It will leave the BD player on
 - turn on 522
 - press TV's input button (at this stage, TV can detect an HDMI signal but STILL cannot recognize the type of source i.e. BD player)
 - presto, the BD player's home menu will be shown on screen. remember, the BD player is already ON at this stage
 - proceed to watch BD
 - set 522 to HDMITHRU - sound comes out the TV (no sound comes from 522) but the 522 is ON and does consume energy (a useless case? why would Pio need this feature anyway?)
 - set 522 to HDMI AMP - sound comes out the 522 (no sound comes from TV) enjoy 5.1 audio
 - turn off the 522 -- voila, TV screen blackens and sound is shut but leaves TV and BD player ON

Q: why would you do scenario 1?
A: if your children would like to watch animations (or play Game console) on their own -- it won't bother them not to hear audio in 5.1.  besides, you'll be able to save on energy as the 522 is OFF
Conclusion: NOT POSSIBLE using above stated connections.  522 has no STAND BY PASS THRU feature.  522 cannot be a gateway between your BD/Game console via HDMI IN & HDMI OUT to TV WHEN the 522 is OFF.

Solution (w/ TV ARC), do below connections instead:
1.  BD player (GAME console) to TV's HDMI (select any one except the one with ARC function) using stock HDMI cable w/ Ethernet
2.  Pio 522 HDMI out to TV's HDMI w/ ARC input using Monster Hi-Speed HDMI cable (w/ CEC)

 - this is possible if your children will watch movie (or play game console) and use the TV speakers as HDMI carries AV signal to the TV so you can leave the 522 off
 - if YOU or your children will watch movie (or play game console) in 5.1 audio, turn on 522 and select TV input source. TV speaker will automatically shut off and will return the audio signal back to 522. 
 - adjust audio level according to your liking - even the TV's remote can control the 522's volume
 - enjoy 5.1 audio!

Solution (w/o TV ARC), do below connections instead:
1.  BD player (GAME console) to TV's HDMI using stock HDMI cable w/ Ethernet
2.  BD player (GAME console) to Pio 522 using OPTICAL cable or Digital COAX cable

 - this is possible if your children will watch movie (or play game console) and use the TV speakers as HDMI carries AV signal to the TV so you can leave the 522 off
 - if YOU or your children will watch movie (or play game console) in 5.1 audio, turn on 522 and select CD input source (then further select C1 or O1 for COAX or OPTICAL, respectively).
 - mute the TV or manually turn TV speaker off
 - adjust audio level according to your liking - can only use the 522's remote
 - enjoy 5.1 audio

 ^-^
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Mar 11, 2013 at 11:36 PM
Thanks for this detailed information. Will try this tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Philander on Mar 11, 2013 at 11:46 PM
Thanks for the info. I am about to buy the Pioneer 522 but now I have some reservation as standbye pass through is a nice feature.

Any other entry level receiver has this function? Sub 12K?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Mar 12, 2013 at 12:02 AM
Thanks for the info. I am about to buy the Pioneer 522 but now I have some reservation as standbye pass through is a nice feature.

Any other entry level receiver has this function? Sub 12K?

Thanks.

not really a bother for the stand-by pass through not being there... all you need is an extra cable connection (SPDIF/COAX) as stated, anyway... and you can only have this feature maximized if your TV has an ARC...

=)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dm1179 on Mar 21, 2013 at 02:50 PM
if AVR has no "Stand By Pass Through" function, how about using an HDMI splitter instead?

(http://www.port-ta.com/upload/HDMI201076123649497.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 21, 2013 at 04:30 PM
not really a bother for the stand-by pass through not being there... all you need is an extra cable connection (SPDIF/COAX) as stated, anyway... and you can only have this feature maximized if your TV has an ARC...

=)

with a pioneer receiver's low power consumption hitting only about 40-60 watts at low listening levels, i wouldn't worry about that pass-through function either. enjoy pa sa surround sound. besides, a receiver on standby with hdmi pass-through will already consume around 20 watts, so with a 30-watt difference why bother and deprive yourself the pleasure?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: red_one on Mar 23, 2013 at 10:13 AM
would a Pioneer AVR be a good match to my Monitor Audio Bronze bookshelf speakers?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogs on Mar 24, 2013 at 05:56 AM
hi mga sir, any idea kung anu po ang remote code ng panasonic vt30 para sa learning remote ng pioneer 1121, hindi kasi gumagana ung nasa manual wahaha..thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: angelslayer on Mar 30, 2013 at 09:47 AM
Mga sir reagrding the standby passthru ni 522 depende ata sa country ung function na un, nabasa ko lang dito

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1981678 (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1981678)
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1990848 (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1990848)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: sirhc on Apr 01, 2013 at 04:55 PM
guys, feedback po sa vsx 1022 or vsx 1121. currently in search for my first avr.. :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 01, 2013 at 05:35 PM
guys, feedback po sa vsx 1022 or vsx 1121. currently in search for my first avr.. :D

Eto bro side by side specs comparison... ^-^

http://receivers.findthebest.com/compare/5-166/Pioneer-VSX-1121-K-vs-Pioneer-VSX-1022-K (http://receivers.findthebest.com/compare/5-166/Pioneer-VSX-1121-K-vs-Pioneer-VSX-1022-K)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 01, 2013 at 05:38 PM
Malayo ung 1022 sa 1121 lalo na kung future proof
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Apr 04, 2013 at 02:07 PM
guys, feedback po sa vsx 1022 or vsx 1121. currently in search for my first avr.. :D
I would pick the vsx 1121, pioneer downgraded the 1022 to a lower end model to accommodate the 1122

spec wise the 1121 crushes the 1022 in terms of power
1121 (20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm) is 110, 7 hdmi 2 sub outs and pre outs
1022 (20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm) is 80, 6 hdmi 1 sub out and non.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1121-K (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1121-K)
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1022-K (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1022-K)

http://receivers.findthebest.com/compare/5-166/Pioneer-VSX-1121-K-vs-Pioneer-VSX-1022-K (http://receivers.findthebest.com/compare/5-166/Pioneer-VSX-1121-K-vs-Pioneer-VSX-1022-K)
I would be careful with this site, it has a lot of miss leading information. 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Apr 04, 2013 at 06:04 PM
Mga sir,  pwede ba  gawing power amp ang dayton dta100a, so that i could add a surround back speaker on my Pioneer vsx521 5.1 avr to make it  7.1?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 04, 2013 at 06:11 PM
Mga sir,  pwede ba  gawing power amp ang dayton dta100a, so that i could add a surround back speaker on my Pioneer vsx521 5.1 avr to make it  7.1?
nalito ako...     5.1 lang ba ung 521?  Kung 5channel lang sya ..poweramp will not make it 7.1.                 ..poweramp should be connected to pre out of receiver to drive speaker for 2 channel it can drive the fronts while receiver will just drive the center and surr
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Apr 04, 2013 at 07:07 PM
nalito ako...     5.1 lang ba ung 521?  Kung 5channel lang sya ..poweramp will not make it 7.1.                 ..poweramp should be connected to pre out of receiver to drive speaker for 2 channel it can drive the fronts while receiver will just drive the center and surr

5.1 sya sir, pero may pre out sya for surround back or front height. Was wondering if i can use dayton so i could connect a speaker surround
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 04, 2013 at 07:19 PM
5.1 sya sir, pero may pre out sya for surround back or front height. Was wondering if i can use dayton so i could connect a speaker surround

Yes pwede. From Pio preout to Dayton via RCA cable then Dayton to speakers. In fact any power amp will do as long as kaya nyang idrive yung speakers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 04, 2013 at 07:22 PM
Mga sir,  pwede ba  gawing power amp ang dayton dta100a, so that i could add a surround back speaker on my Pioneer vsx521 5.1 avr to make it  7.1?

You can, as long as you're okay with running within its limits.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Apr 04, 2013 at 07:25 PM
Yes pwede. From Pio preout to Dayton via RCA cable then Dayton to speakers. In fact any power amp will do as long as kaya nyang idrive yung speakers.

Nice, thanks sir. Can dayton dta100a drive a polk tsi 100 or owm3 ?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Frankthetank on Apr 04, 2013 at 07:26 PM
You can, as long as you're okay with running within its limits.

Limits po like??
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: AppleMan on Apr 04, 2013 at 07:27 PM
^_Isang power amp pa para naman dun sa FRONT HEIGHT para kumpleto na... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Apr 04, 2013 at 07:28 PM
Nice, thanks sir. Can dayton dta100a drive a polk tsi 100 or owm3 ?
i think this deserves a different thread
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Apr 04, 2013 at 08:39 PM
mga sir's newbie question lang po..

kaya bang i drive ng pioneer vsx 522 ko ang wharfedale 10cm center speaker 30-200w?

as far as i know, 30-140watts per channel ang vsx 522.

ano po ang cons and prons?

thanks !
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 04, 2013 at 09:12 PM
mga sir's newbie question lang po..

kaya bang i drive ng pioneer vsx 522 ko ang wharfedale 10cm center speaker 30-200w?

as far as i know, 30-140watts per channel ang vsx 522.

ano po ang cons and prons?

thanks !

kaya. Wag mo lang lalakasan sa reference levels. Pero at descent movie watching volumes, maayos na siya.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 04, 2013 at 09:21 PM
5.1 sya sir, pero may pre out sya for surround back or front height. Was wondering if i can use dayton so i could connect a speaker surround
un ayos may preout pala .. Sir markcrenz have a hardware to connect poweramp without preout ..isuggest ko sana .. Since may preout it will work ok..       Iconlord(wil) same answer by efren nelson ..un din tinext ko sayo hihihi
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 04, 2013 at 11:10 PM
Nice, thanks sir. Can dayton dta100a drive a polk tsi 100 or owm3 ?

I think it could drive the both TSi100 and OWM3 since they're fairly easily to drive 8-ohms @ 89db...
Just don't push them too hard...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Apr 12, 2013 at 04:02 AM
which is better Yamaha RX V373 or Pioneer VSX-522K?

i have a wharfedale 10cm center and planning to buy wharfe 10.6 fronts.

please help me decide.. thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 12, 2013 at 09:20 AM
which is better Yamaha RX V373 or Pioneer VSX-522K?

i have a wharfedale 10cm center and planning to buy wharfe 10.6 fronts.

please help me decide.. thanks
parehas lang entry level yan pre...
522 to 373 is not an upgrade...but a change of brand only....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Apr 12, 2013 at 04:52 PM
parehas lang entry level yan pre...
522 to 373 is not an upgrade...but a change of brand only....

Baka wala pang receiver sis and yan ang pinagpipilian
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 12, 2013 at 04:55 PM
Baka wala pang receiver sis and yan ang pinagpipilian
meron na yan 522
barkada ko yan si iconlord...

bumuo kasi sya lately pero need nya budget frendly
kaya pinabili ko ung 10CM na wharf sa MP an sabi ko 10.6 FS and 9DFS or 10dfs surr

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Apr 12, 2013 at 06:24 PM
sayang nga kung "sidegrade" lang. better step 2-3 models or higher up the series kung galing sa entry level model.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 12, 2013 at 07:15 PM
sayang nga kung "sidegrade" lang. better step 2-3 models or higher up the series kung galing sa entry level model.
yup 
pM ko sya sabi ko kunin ung benta mo sa MP na pioneer...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nsp on Apr 16, 2013 at 09:21 AM
noob question. can an entry level pio receiver be configured for 2.1 or 3.1 without losing the sound from the unused channels? does it support virtual surround? my plan is to start with 2.1 system and then gradually upgrade to 5.1. i wish to use virtual surround while i have a 2.1 or 3.1 setup. thanks.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Apr 16, 2013 at 09:41 AM
noob question. can an entry level pio receiver be configured for 2.1 or 3.1 without losing the sound from the unused channels?

Yes. If configured right, it should downmix the data.

does it support virtual surround?
Yes, with the right sources. Pioneer calls it Front Stage Surround.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nsp on Apr 16, 2013 at 11:07 AM
thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Apr 16, 2013 at 12:43 PM
yup 
pM ko sya sabi ko kunin ung benta mo sa MP na pioneer...

thanks for the boost!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: maximuskain on May 08, 2013 at 01:22 AM
Hi. Have a pioneer vsx 921 is there a difference if i use 14 gauge speaker wires? I'm currently at 16 gauge and thinking of swapping the front and center to 14gauge.

I'm using Polk TSi300 fronts and CS10 for center.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on May 08, 2013 at 02:27 AM
Hi. Have a pioneer vsx 921 is there a difference if i use 14 gauge speaker wires? I'm currently at 16 gauge and thinking of swapping the front and center to 14gauge.

I'm using Polk TSi300 fronts and CS10 for center.

hi sir, ilang watts po per channel ang vsx 921 or 922 model? thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on May 08, 2013 at 05:09 AM
I would pick the vsx 1121, pioneer downgraded the 1022 to a lower end model to accommodate the 1122

spec wise the 1121 crushes the 1022 in terms of power
1121 (20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm) is 110, 7 hdmi 2 sub outs and pre outs
1022 (20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm) is 80, 6 hdmi 1 sub out and non.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1121-K (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1121-K)
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1022-K (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/VSX-1022-K)

http://receivers.findthebest.com/compare/5-166/Pioneer-VSX-1121-K-vs-Pioneer-VSX-1022-K (http://receivers.findthebest.com/compare/5-166/Pioneer-VSX-1121-K-vs-Pioneer-VSX-1022-K)
I would be careful with this site, it has a lot of miss leading information.

newbie question.

does this mean na whenever we connect a 6ohm speakers like wharfedales to vsx-1022 the actual power output that would be given out by the receiver per channel is 140w and if the speaker is 8ohm the receiver power output would be 80w? thanks

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: maximuskain on May 08, 2013 at 07:30 AM
150 watts 6 ohms. Check mo sa Google to be sure. Alam ko somethng like 90 watts 8 ohms yata but I can be mistaken.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: simons on May 08, 2013 at 04:00 PM

AFAIK, this is how to calculate Amplifier Output:
Amplifier Output=Amplifier Watts x (Amplifier Rated at Ohms/Speaker Ohms)
In the case of VSX-1022
Amplifier Output=80 watts x (8 ohms/6ohms)
Amplifier Output=106.67 watts

An amplifier designed to put out 100 watts into 8 ohms will put out 200 watts into 4 ohms.  Since ohms measure resistance, the more ohms, the less output from the amplifier.  Conversely, the less ohms, the more output from the amplifier.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on May 08, 2013 at 05:29 PM
newbie question.

does this mean na whenever we connect a 6ohm speakers like wharfedales to vsx-1022 the actual power output that would be given out by the receiver per channel is 140w and if the speaker is 8ohm the receiver power output would be 80w? thanks


Yes, the specs on the 1022 says it  will do 80 watts into 8 ohms but then this is on 1 channel driven, so it will differ in real use.
Your Wharfdales are 6 ohm of resistance so the receiver will need pump out more power, lets say the rated 140w compared to the 8ohm 80w.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 08, 2013 at 05:37 PM
Guys remember not to give too much emphasis on the claimed output power by manufacturers because most of them are rated at only 1 channel or 2 channels driven. So more or less a 7 channel AVR rated at 140 watts per channel at 8-ohms might output approximately 70-80 watts per channels all channels driven...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: simons on May 09, 2013 at 01:21 PM
Good pm. Help naman po.

Currently I own a 5.1-channel speaker setup but I’m planning to upgrade to a 7.1 channel system in the indefinite future using Speaker B-terminals of VSX 920.    But before buying 2 additional speakers, I have to resolve the two issues:

First, I want to know what is the power output of Speaker B-Terminals (R & L) to match the 2 speakers. Ganito po ang specs ng audio section:

Maximum Power Output
     Front, Center, Surround, Surround Back
      . . . . . .150 W per channel (1 kHz, 6 Ω, 10%)
Rated Power Output
     Front, Center, Surround, Surround Back
      . . . . . .125 W per channel (1 kHz, 6 Ω, 1%)
FTC Power Output
Front (stereo). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 65 W + 65 W
                   (20 Hz to 20 kHz, 8 Ω, 0.2 %)

Question: Ano po ang dapat iassume kong power rating ng Speaker B-terminals, 65W per channel or 125W/ch?

Second, I want to make sure that the sound can be heard from all speakers at the same time in our room, of course depende sa source yan.  Per instruction, I will just select Surr.Back then choose a speaker terminal option SP-->AB. VSX 920 manual states that:

SP-->AB  - Sound is output from the A-speaker terminals, the two speakers in the B-speaker terminals, and the subwoofer.  Multichannel sources are downmixed ONLY when the STEREO/ALC mode is selected from stereo output from A-and B-speaker terminals.

Thanks in advance mga masters.
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 09, 2013 at 01:25 PM
Good pm. Help naman po.

Currently I own a 5.1-channel speaker setup but I’m planning to upgrade to a 7.1 channel system in the indefinite future using Speaker B-terminals of VSX 920.    But before buying 2 additional speakers, I have to resolve the two issues:

First, I want to know what is the power output of Speaker B-Terminals (R & L) to match the 2 speakers. Ganito po ang specs ng audio section:

Maximum Power Output
     Front, Center, Surround, Surround Back
      . . . . . .150 W per channel (1 kHz, 6 Ω, 10%)
Rated Power Output
     Front, Center, Surround, Surround Back
      . . . . . .125 W per channel (1 kHz, 6 Ω, 1%)
FTC Power Output
Front (stereo). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 65 W + 65 W
                   (20 Hz to 20 kHz, 8 Ω, 0.2 %)

Question: Ano po ang dapat iassume kong power rating ng Speaker B-terminals, 65W per channel or 125W/ch?

Second, I want to make sure that the sound can be heard from all speakers at the same time in our room, of course depende sa source yan.  Per instruction, I will just select Surr.Back then choose a speaker terminal option SP-->AB. VSX 920 manual states that:

SP-->AB  - Sound is output from the A-speaker terminals, the two speakers in the B-speaker terminals, and the subwoofer.  Multichannel sources are downmixed ONLY when the STEREO/ALC mode is selected from stereo output from A-and B-speaker terminals.

Thanks in advance mga masters.

Use the same brand and model of your current surround speakers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: simons on May 09, 2013 at 07:43 PM
Use the same brand and model of your current surround speakers.

Thank you po Master Nelson.

Actually 8.1 HT set up po ang target ko.  I posed the said question because I want to use all the speaker terminals of VSX 920 including in Speaker B.  I’m using Bose Accoustimass 15 series II (5.1) upgradable to Accoustimass 16 (6.1) by adding a center rear cube speaker array. AFAIK, di pwde idirect sa amplifier yon cube speaker arrays ng bose, tama po ba ako?

Torn between Bose V-100 speakers, 10 to 80 watts, rated 4 to 8ohms and JBL Control 1 Monitor Speakers, 100 watts, 8ohms. Between the two, alin po ang better iconnect sa Speaker B terminals ng VSX 920, first choice ko po kc ang JBL.

Thank you po uli Master Nelson.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on May 11, 2013 at 07:55 AM
you can't get 8.1 from the 920. no matter how many speakers you connect you'll still get 7.1 maximum. better invest in a good set of front and center speakers. i'm sure you can do better, boss.  ;) quality over quantity.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: simons on May 11, 2013 at 01:45 PM
you can't get 8.1 from the 920. no matter how many speakers you connect you'll still get 7.1 maximum. better invest in a good set of front and center speakers. i'm sure you can do better, boss.  ;) quality over quantity.

I do appreciate your advice Sir Mark. 

I thought I can upgrade my present HT set up into 8.1 by connecting left and right front speakers, the center speaker, the left and right front height speakers using Speaker B terminals, the left and right surround speakers  plus center rear speaker. Di pala pwede.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2RM on May 12, 2013 at 06:03 AM
May 2013 Model na ba dito sa Pinas? How much kaya VSX-523?

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers

Thanks!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on May 12, 2013 at 08:07 AM
May 2013 Model na ba dito sa Pinas? How much kaya VSX-523?

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers

Thanks!
Probably mid year around july or aug.  if your looking to buy one at this price point just stick with stick with the 522 or the 521. There isn't that much of a difference among the models I mentioned.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2RM on May 12, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Any Link na may comparison between 522 and 523?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 12, 2013 at 11:02 AM
Any Link na may comparison between 522 and 523?
punta ka lang sa pioneer website...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on May 12, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Any Link na may comparison between 522 and 523?
pareho silang 5.1 pero buti pa si 522 may processing and preouts for surround back/front height. other than that nothing significant. tapos sigurado mas mahal pa si 523 vs current prices ni 522. usually P15-16k ang release price ng pioneer 5xx models, kapresyo na ng 1022 sa marketplace.  >:D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: 2RM on May 12, 2013 at 02:46 PM
pareho silang 5.1 pero buti pa si 522 may processing and preouts for surround back/front height. other than that nothing significant. tapos sigurado mas mahal pa si 523 vs current prices ni 522. usually P15-16k ang release price ng pioneer 5xx models, kapresyo na ng 1022 sa marketplace.  >:D

Thanks markcrenz. Meron bang specs upgrade na ginawa sa 523 compared sa 522?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on May 12, 2013 at 04:31 PM
downgrade...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ATJr. on May 12, 2013 at 06:13 PM
Guys remember not to give too much emphasis on the claimed output power by manufacturers because most of them are rated at only 1 channel or 2 channels driven. So more or less a 7 channel AVR rated at 140 watts per channel at 8-ohms might output approximately 70-80 watts per channels all channels driven...

agreed, i stopped counting watts a long time ago.....
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on May 12, 2013 at 08:07 PM
Guys remember not to give too much emphasis on the claimed output power by manufacturers because most of them are rated at only 1 channel or 2 channels driven. So more or less a 7 channel AVR rated at 140 watts per channel at 8-ohms might output approximately 70-80 watts per channels all channels driven...

na google ko lang po yun image sir. i think this belong to a pioneer vsx-522 or 523.

(http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQBSshGUMcIRBYl0&url=http%3A%2F%2Fvthumb.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhvthumb-ak-ash4%2Fs403x403%2F245934_10100173920738349_10100173919590649_46374_1936_b.jpg&jq=100)

does this mean na if a speakers like wharfedales at 6ohms once they are plugin sa receiver like this the total power output given by the receiver is 140watts? thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 13, 2013 at 12:16 AM
na google ko lang po yun image sir. i think this belong to a pioneer vsx-522 or 523.

(http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQBSshGUMcIRBYl0&url=http%3A%2F%2Fvthumb.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhvthumb-ak-ash4%2Fs403x403%2F245934_10100173920738349_10100173919590649_46374_1936_b.jpg&jq=100)

does this mean na if a speakers like wharfedales at 6ohms once they are plugin sa receiver like this the total power output given by the receiver is 140watts? thanks


More or less, that is if you will only use 1-pc speaker...
As you can see the 140watts is rated @ only 1 channel being driven by the AVR...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: angelslayer on May 13, 2013 at 05:33 AM
mga sir,
Ok na po bang amp si 921 or 1021 para kay Jamo s606hcs3?
since may available naman sa mp, since i bi bi-amp ko din ung floorstanders,
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on May 22, 2013 at 05:16 AM
un ayos may preout pala .. Sir markcrenz have a hardware to connect poweramp without preout ..isuggest ko sana .. Since may preout it will work ok..       Iconlord(wil) same answer by efren nelson ..un din tinext ko sayo hihihi

Brother Derek, Pabulong naman nung hardware na pwede kong gamitin para malagyan ng poweramp yung 520 ko kahit walang pre-out for fronts ko sana gagamitin.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on May 22, 2013 at 05:18 AM
Sir Markrenz,

Ano po ba yung hardware device na meron kayo para ma connect ko yung poweramp sa 520 ko na walang frong pre-out? TIA.!!

un ayos may preout pala .. Sir markcrenz have a hardware to connect poweramp without preout ..isuggest ko sana .. Since may preout it will work ok..       Iconlord(wil) same answer by efren nelson ..un din tinext ko sayo hihihi
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: [dcw]aaron on May 22, 2013 at 10:32 PM
For entry level, is the vsx-522-k any good? How is it compared to yamaha's rxv-373 which by the way is an entry level avr.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM
For entry level, is the vsx-522-k any good? How is it compared to yamaha's rxv-373 which by the way is an entry level avr.
kuha ka nalang ng used mid level ...naka magupgrade ka lang din
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mhacman on May 23, 2013 at 06:11 PM
pareho silang 5.1 pero buti pa si 522 may processing and preouts for surround back/front height. other than that nothing significant. tapos sigurado mas mahal pa si 523 vs current prices ni 522. usually P15-16k ang release price ng pioneer 5xx models, kapresyo na ng 1022 sa marketplace.  >:D

most significant is the 4K capability of the 523 (for future-proof)... though, sobrang mahal pa ng mga 4K display devices these days.

and yes, wala na yung 7.1 capability ng 522 on a pre-out surround back or front height.  although again, there are only a least number of movie inventories with 7.1 encoded soundtracks.  so 5.1 will be just enough =)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 23, 2013 at 08:20 PM
most significant is the 4K capability of the 523 (for future-proof)... though, sobrang mahal pa ng mga 4K display devices these days.

and yes, wala na yung 7.1 capability ng 522 on a pre-out surround back or front height.  although again, there are only a least number of movie inventories with 7.1 encoded soundtracks.  so 5.1 will be just enough =)

for sure power isnt enough...speakers will want more juice
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 23, 2013 at 10:43 PM
Sir Markrenz,

Ano po ba yung hardware device na meron kayo para ma connect ko yung poweramp sa 520 ko na walang frong pre-out? TIA.!!


L.O.C. = Line Out Converter.

PM mo siya.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on May 24, 2013 at 02:39 AM
L.O.C. = Line Out Converter.

PM mo siya.

Sir Nelson is there any downside using this device for HT, This item is originally designed for cars? pano po ang power nito?

Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 24, 2013 at 09:39 PM
Sir Nelson is there any downside using this device for HT, This item is originally designed for cars? pano po ang power nito?

Technically if implemented properly parang walang downside. Sonically, for me, baka meron baka wala. Dami na kc dinaanan ng analog signal. Preamp ng receiver, then amp section ng receiver. Then ibabalik/convert mo ulit into preamp signal via LOC. Pero shemps kapag sinubukan mo at maayos naman, like Timthekid's experience, eh di okay. Sometimes din kc, too much OC can hinder you into trying or achieving your goal. Hehe!
Best talaga is to try it. Ako, i wanted to try it pero wala pa akong power amp to play with.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Jun 03, 2013 at 04:07 AM
Hi Fellow Pinoydvd members,

I just want to get the opinion of our gurus here. I have a wharfedale valdus 400 fronts, Wharfedale WH2 center, Wharfedale WH2 bipole surrounds speakers and a 512 US audio sub.. Currently using a pioneer vsx-520 a/v reciever and for me bitin. Im contemplating between the Pioneer VSX-1022 and Pioneer Elite VSX-40. Will either of the 2 receiver sufficient to pump up my speakers. What will you recommend between the 2. Thanks in Advance.
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 03, 2013 at 05:02 AM
Hi Fellow Pinoydvd members,

I just want to get the opinion of our gurus here. I have a wharfedale valdus 400 fronts, Wharfedale WH2 center, Wharfedale WH2 bipole surrounds speakers and a 512 US audio sub.. Currently using a pioneer vsx-520 a/v reciever and for me bitin. Im contemplating between the Pioneer VSX-1022 and Pioneer Elite VSX-40. Will either of the 2 receiver sufficient to pump up my speakers. What will you recommend between the 2. Thanks in Advance.

Elite!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Jun 03, 2013 at 05:11 AM
Elite!

Thanks sir Nelson. BTW YGPM...!!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: angelslayer on Jun 03, 2013 at 08:09 AM
Hi,
Sa mga masters dyan, tanong ko lang po kung pwede gamitin for bi-amp ung surround back ni 1022?
wala kasi ako makita sa google, ilang araw na akong nagbabasa basa wala eh,
thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 03, 2013 at 10:25 AM
Hi,
Sa mga masters dyan, tanong ko lang po kung pwede gamitin for bi-amp ung surround back ni 1022?
wala kasi ako makita sa google, ilang araw na akong nagbabasa basa wala eh,
thanks

Wala po ata din nakalagay sa website nila. I guess it's not possible.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: angelslayer on Jun 03, 2013 at 04:08 PM
Ganun ba, sayang gusto ko pa naman i bi-amp sana ung S606 floorstanders ko :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 03, 2013 at 08:33 PM
Ganun ba, sayang gusto ko pa naman i bi-amp sana ung S606 floorstanders ko :)

Have you checked the manual sir?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 03, 2013 at 08:47 PM
Have you checked the manual sir?
efren nelson...pros ng bi amp?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 03, 2013 at 08:49 PM
efren nelson...pros ng bi amp?

dagdag mo na din cons.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: AppleMan on Jun 03, 2013 at 09:08 PM
Yes, ano nga ba effect ng bi-amp sa HT setup?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 04, 2013 at 12:20 AM
When you say bi amp, it means dedicating an amp for the tweeter and woofer basically. It should mean more juice for both. But question is, in this kind of set-up, di naman matakaw sa power ang tweeters, so parang wala masyadong advantage for me in that configuration. You can also get better control of the tweeter/woofer volume pero more or less kaya na ng EQ yun. But that's just me.
Other people do it sa stereo setups utilizing a combination of tubes and/or S/S amps to get the sweetness of tubes sa highs and the dynamics of S/S sa lows.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Jun 04, 2013 at 08:38 AM
sir angelslayer we have the same reciever 1022, were you able to play mp3 from your nmt source while the hdmi settings sa nmt is set to raw? walang audio eh but flac files works fine. mp3 files played nung nilipat ko sa usb flashdrive and connected sa harap.  another thing po is yung mga mvies na aac ang audio codec wala po syang audio na lumalabas as work around I have to change my hdmi setting from raw to multi channel lpcm sa nmt ko. on my old vsx 520 mp3 plays fine as well as movies with aac codec plays fine din without changing the hdmi audio settings from raw to multi channel lpcm. sir can you verify sa 1022 nyo if we have the same observation.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jun 04, 2013 at 09:35 AM
sir angelslayer we have the same reciever 1022, were you able to play mp3 from your nmt source while the hdmi settings sa nmt is set to raw? walang audio eh but flac files works fine. mp3 files played nung nilipat ko sa usb flashdrive and connected sa harap.  another thing po is yung mga mvies na aac ang audio codec wala po syang audio na lumalabas as work around I have to change my hdmi setting from raw to multi channel lpcm sa nmt ko. on my old vsx 520 mp3 plays fine as well as movies with aac codec plays fine din without changing the hdmi audio settings from raw to multi channel lpcm. sir can you verify sa 1022 nyo if we have the same observation.
pasingit. halos ganyan din egreat ko palit pa ng settings to play aac and some flac files. my workaround was to connect an optical cable to a different input on the receiver, then set spdif to lpcm on the player. so pag ayaw sa hdmi, yung connected to optical ang sine-select kong source sa receiver.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Jun 04, 2013 at 12:33 PM
sir mark tnx for the tip. now what I i will do is to hook an optical cable from my nmt then set it to lpcm para wla na me gagalawin na settings. pag nagpatugtug ng mp3 or aac codec movies. will send later a feedback. do I have to change the input signal on the reciever or will the reciever detect it automatically?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: angelslayer on Jun 04, 2013 at 05:00 PM
sir angelslayer we have the same reciever 1022, were you able to play mp3 from your nmt source while the hdmi settings sa nmt is set to raw? walang audio eh but flac files works fine. mp3 files played nung nilipat ko sa usb flashdrive and connected sa harap.  another thing po is yung mga mvies na aac ang audio codec wala po syang audio na lumalabas as work around I have to change my hdmi setting from raw to multi channel lpcm sa nmt ko. on my old vsx 520 mp3 plays fine as well as movies with aac codec plays fine din without changing the hdmi audio settings from raw to multi channel lpcm. sir can you verify sa 1022 nyo if we have the same observation.

Hi Sir,

Wala pa ung unit ko sa akin, pinabili ko kasi sa US, and inaantay ko pa eh. pero try ko yan pagdating ng 1022 ko :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Jun 07, 2013 at 01:48 PM
here are the new pioneer LX87, LX77 and LX57
doesnt seem that different with the current line up:
http://www.whathifi.com/news/pioneer-replaces-sc-lx56-and-sc-lx86-award-winning-av-receivers (http://www.whathifi.com/news/pioneer-replaces-sc-lx56-and-sc-lx86-award-winning-av-receivers)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 07, 2013 at 08:17 PM
here are the new pioneer LX87, LX77 and LX57
doesnt seem that different with the current line up:
http://www.whathifi.com/news/pioneer-replaces-sc-lx56-and-sc-lx86-award-winning-av-receivers (http://www.whathifi.com/news/pioneer-replaces-sc-lx56-and-sc-lx86-award-winning-av-receivers)

That means bababa na ang mga prices ng older models!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Tavus on Jun 08, 2013 at 09:28 AM
That means bababa na ang mga prices ng older models!
I know right? I'm acutally quite happy with my pioneer amp.
 The next AVR i would be hunting for would be something with Audyssey tx32 or anthem arc.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 08, 2013 at 11:04 AM
may pioneer power amps ba sa atin?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jessraf on Jun 09, 2013 at 10:09 AM
Got a VSX521K few years back and never enjoyed listening music in it. First, playing stereo the front speakers has no lows as if it pass through the high pass filter. You need to turn on your sub to compensate. Second, you need to turn on your monitor TV to listen to music. Any help?
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 09, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Got a VSX521K few years back and never enjoyed listening music in it. First, playing stereo the front speakers has no lows as if it pass through the high pass filter. You need to turn on your sub to compensate. Second, you need to turn on your monitor TV to listen to music. Any help?

Sir, could you be more specific with what kind of help em you need?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jessraf on Jun 09, 2013 at 01:28 PM
Sir Nelson, hope I can just play music without turning on my sub and TV. thanks.
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 09, 2013 at 02:21 PM
Sir Nelson, hope I can just play music without turning on my sub and TV. thanks.

Try setting your speakers to L= large. Check if kaya ng receiver mo I-drive ang speakers mo at your listening level.
If capable ng iPod etc devices ang receiver mo, try mo kung makikita sa display ang mga pine-play mo.
You can also buy a very small monitor.
You can also research re airplay and other wired and wireless devices for playing music.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jun 09, 2013 at 06:03 PM
Got a VSX521K few years back and never enjoyed listening music in it. First, playing stereo the front speakers has no lows as if it pass through the high pass filter. You need to turn on your sub to compensate. Second, you need to turn on your monitor TV to listen to music. Any help?
first part was answered by nelson. but even if you set it to LARGE, there may not be enough bass output if you're using bookshelf speakers as fronts. retaining the SMALL speaker setting will potentially sound better as the receiver and front speakers will be relieved of the tough duty of reproducing low bass that the sub is intended for.

as to the second concern, meron ka bang direct audio connection from your source to 521? if yes i don't see no reason why you can't listen to music without turning the tv on.
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 09, 2013 at 06:07 PM

as to the second concern, meron ka bang direct audio connection from your source to 521? if yes i don't see no reason why you can't listen to music without turning the tv on.

Most likely yun source ng music nya needs a monitor. Probably nmt or pc.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: larokulit on Jun 09, 2013 at 06:18 PM
When you say bi amp, it means dedicating an amp for the tweeter and woofer basically. It should mean more juice for both. But question is, in this kind of set-up, di naman matakaw sa power ang tweeters, so parang wala masyadong advantage for me in that configuration. You can also get better control of the tweeter/woofer volume pero more or less kaya na ng EQ yun. But that's just me.
Other people do it sa stereo setups utilizing a combination of tubes and/or S/S amps to get the sweetness of tubes sa highs and the dynamics of S/S sa lows.

+1

Mas maganda rin sana kung yung mga receivers na pwedeng pang bi-amp yung extra channels ay pwede ring mag set ng crossover point. Ganda nun sa 3-way floorstanders kung pwedeng i-LPF sa < 200Hz yung para sa woofer.
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 09, 2013 at 07:15 PM
+1

Mas maganda rin sana kung yung mga receivers na pwedeng pang bi-amp yung extra channels ay pwede ring mag set ng crossover point. Ganda nun sa 3-way floorstanders kung pwedeng i-LPF sa < 200Hz yung para sa woofer.

May mga aftermarket active xovers naman for that purpose.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jun 09, 2013 at 10:25 PM
Most likely yun source ng music nya needs a monitor. Probably nmt or pc.
he didn't mention it kasi and he spoke of the problem as if the receiver is at fault. i thought baka lang sa connections ang problema.

umorder ka na ba ng sc86? >:D
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 10, 2013 at 12:18 AM
he didn't mention it kasi and he spoke of the problem as if the receiver is at fault. i thought baka lang sa connections ang problema.

umorder ka na ba ng sc86? >:D

I also just presumed. Hehe! Not yet. Can't afford. though sayang because I feel July would a a very great opportunity kc pasok na ang newer models.
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jessraf on Jun 10, 2013 at 07:42 AM
Most likely yun source ng music nya needs a monitor. Probably nmt or pc.
Thanks Mga Bro, btw am using Sony bdp bx38 as my blueray player and my old bose 201 for front. Not much improvement noticed in bass while using my small wharfedale modus. Will test it later using my old reliable pioneer cs 822A as suggested by Sir Nelson changing speaker to large. Another thing, am using the 2 outputs of my blueray player to my amplifier, hdmi and RCA (to get the analog signal for msuic). From the amp to tv monitor only hdmi and from tv monitor to amp only optical cable.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: crazyhog on Jun 10, 2013 at 05:02 PM
@ ALL, pls help.

in simple terms, anong ibig sabihin ng WARM-NEUTRAL-BRIGHT in terms of speaker-receiver matching?
and ano ideal preference  for home theater set up?


and is PIONEER performs well w/ TSi400 - CS20(soon)? Warm ba ang tunog?
if Onkyo gagamitin, ano rin?

*2nd hand lang muna, either Pioneer - Onkyo. for PIO, 1021/1121 un nagustuhan ko.


Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nels76 on Jun 11, 2013 at 06:56 AM
Welcome me to the Club.

I now owned a Pioneer VSX LX 51.

This is an old model. Got it 50% off sa Sight and Sound Shang.

Sabi orig price is 70 then binigay sa akin ng 34k 12 mos.

So far, satisfied na satisfied ako.
This Receiver has generous power reserve.

Malayong malayo sa former receiver ko na Kenwood KRF X906D which I got 2003 pa.
So lagpas 10yrs din yong former receiver ko bago  bumigay (nag shu shutdown agad pagka-On mo pa lang) Baka may kailangan lang linisan sa loob though di ko pa sya ginagalaw.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 20, 2013 at 05:48 PM
Congrats! Welcome!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vonob on Jun 23, 2013 at 10:17 PM
Tanong ko lang mga sir, since pareho ung power output per channel nang 522 and 1022,
pareho lng ba ung magiging tunog ng speaker kahit anu ung gamitin ko sa dalawa?
Wharfedale 10.2 po ung speaker.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM
May difference din sila sa calibration. It could be possible na mag-iba slightly ang tunog. I dunno lang If it would be audible enough.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vonob on Jun 23, 2013 at 10:59 PM
May difference din sila sa calibration. It could be possible na mag-iba slightly ang tunog. I dunno lang If it would be audible enough.

Thanks Sir Nelson.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM
I mean the difference in calibration is because the higher model has more powerful EQ. Pero almost isa lang ang target curve/response nila.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jun 24, 2013 at 10:06 AM
aside from the eq, the 1022 has a beefier power supply so in stereo mode it will potentially sound better than the 522.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vonob on Jun 29, 2013 at 01:10 PM
Noob question mga Sir.
Got myself vsx 522, ask ko lng kung bare wire connection lng b pwede pra s fronts?
Para kasing walang butas ung connection para sa banana plug di tulad nung sa speakers.
Thanks.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mhacman on Jul 01, 2013 at 01:21 PM
Noob question mga Sir.
Got myself vsx 522, ask ko lng kung bare wire connection lng b pwede pra s fronts?
Para kasing walang butas ung connection para sa banana plug di tulad nung sa speakers.
Thanks.



522 fronts can be connected with banana plugs, you have to take off its caps...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jul 01, 2013 at 02:49 PM
Tried playing 2.8KHz DSD audio through my Pioneer LX86's front USB and it played smoothly... But the 5KHz didn't...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vonob on Jul 01, 2013 at 02:59 PM
522 fronts can be connected with banana plugs, you have to take off its caps...

Thanks sir mhacman.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Leo Reyes on Jul 03, 2013 at 10:43 AM
good day mga sirs/madams!

I have a vsx 521k amp. Had it for about 7months na, almost every month dinadala ko un sa service center kasi nag completely shut off nalang bigla. pag chineck ko ung error counter, lahat nasa DC errors. Not sure kung ano nag cacause nito, marami din po ba naka encounter nito sa model na to? Speakers ko is ung klipsch hd 500, may compatibility issues kaya to sa amp? Not a techie person kaya hindi ko maintindihan ung mga computation sa watts, ohms, voltage, etc. Anyone care to enlighten me? Thank you!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jul 03, 2013 at 11:12 AM
kung sa speakers ang problem OVERLOAD ang magiging error. DC error means defective devices inside, dapat isang punta lang sa service center yan kung matino ang gumagawa. possible din may short sa speaker wires kaya lagi nasisira ang output devices.

if you want to learn more about watts, ohms, voltage, etc. maraming tutorials sa net.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 03, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Klipsch are known for their very efficient designs. Plus satellite speakers lang ata ang HD500. Tama si Don King Markcrenz, baka you wires are the culprit. Or it could be, baka may problem din ang speakers mo.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Leo Reyes on Jul 03, 2013 at 02:48 PM
kung sa speakers ang problem OVERLOAD ang magiging error. DC error means defective devices inside, dapat isang punta lang sa service center yan kung matino ang gumagawa. possible din may short sa speaker wires kaya lagi nasisira ang output devices.

if you want to learn more about watts, ohms, voltage, etc. maraming tutorials sa net.

sa may buendia ko pinapaayos ung sakin (lazer active ent.) ang ginagawa lang nung nagaayos ehh nirereset ung nasa likod, i think parang manual overriding ung ginagawa para mag power up ulit. pano ko po malalaman kung may short sa speaker wires ko? Thanks sa reply sir!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Leo Reyes on Jul 03, 2013 at 02:49 PM
Klipsch are known for their very efficient designs. Plus satellite speakers lang ata ang HD500. Tama si Don King Markcrenz, baka you wires are the culprit. Or it could be, baka may problem din ang speakers mo.

nako kasabay ko lang din binili ung speakers, package sale kasi sya nun time na un kasma amp. siguro ipacheck ko na rin ung speakers ko kung may problem nga..thanks sa reply
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: leevaugh98 on Jul 03, 2013 at 07:24 PM
Nako sir leo palit ka na ng onkyo receiver at polk audio na 5.1, alaam na  O0 tsi series kayang kaya mo yun,  >:D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Moks007 on Jul 06, 2013 at 01:59 PM
Welcome me to the Club.

I now owned a Pioneer VSX LX 51.

This is an old model. Got it 50% off sa Sight and Sound Shang.

Sabi orig price is 70 then binigay sa akin ng 34k 12 mos.

So far, satisfied na satisfied ako.
This Receiver has generous power reserve.

Malayong malayo sa former receiver ko na Kenwood KRF X906D which I got 2003 pa.
So lagpas 10yrs din yong former receiver ko bago  bumigay (nag shu shutdown agad pagka-On mo pa lang) Baka may kailangan lang linisan sa loob though di ko pa sya ginagalaw.

I have the same kenwood receiver, the 9060D. Recently bumigay na din, i bought this in 2002. I took it to the service center in roosevelt. They told me its the board. Wala na parts. Sayang, they said kasi before the boards are attached horizontally, so yun dumi umiipon will destroy/corrode the board. The recent receivers daw puro vertical na daw.

Anyway im looking for a entry level lang, kasi for my living room. I cant turn the volume way uP anyway. Im looking at the pioneer 522. Sa listening group i think its down to 9990 pesos. Tempted to buy na tod, hirap wala na receiver. What you guys think? My speakers are just polk audio satellites. Sa future i may upgrade to some entry level speakers hehe. Maybe entry level of polk or tannoy. Ty

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 06, 2013 at 06:38 PM
I have the same kenwood receiver, the 9060D. Recently bumigay na din, i bought this in 2002. I took it to the service center in roosevelt. They told me its the board. Wala na parts. Sayang, they said kasi before the boards are attached horizontally, so yun dumi umiipon will destroy/corrode the board. The recent receivers daw puro vertical na daw.

Anyway im looking for a entry level lang, kasi for my living room. I cant turn the volume way uP anyway. Im looking at the pioneer 522. Sa listening group i think its down to 9990 pesos. Tempted to buy na tod, hirap wala na receiver. What you guys think? My speakers are just polk audio satellites. Sa future i may upgrade to some entry level speakers hehe. Maybe entry level of polk or tannoy. Ty


It's feature packed for it's price and gets the job done.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Moks007 on Jul 07, 2013 at 07:58 AM
It's feature packed for it's price and gets the job done.

Thanks sir Nelson, What entry level speakers do you suggest? Yun cheap lang kasi for my living room only. I was in listen up yesterday, they offered me a wharfedale 9hcp 5.1 na around 15,100 ata. They are pretty good size na pero parang satellites din ba ito? I'm coming from polk audio satellites kasi, so if I get these parang no upgrade?

I don't want to spend too much pero parang an Cheap entry level 5.1 (polks, tannoy etc) will reach around 35 thou to 40 thou?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 11, 2013 at 02:44 PM
Next upgrade from satellites would be bookshelf speakers.
Cheapest I can think of is those Dayton BS speakers. But I think walang center. Let's wait for a good deal sa MP.
Ok din ang floorstander but for entry - midlevel pio receivers, tapos naka-set naman sa SMALL ang speakers, BS ka na lang. Yun can also check out the Polk M series.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Moks007 on Jul 14, 2013 at 07:33 AM
Next upgrade from satellites would be bookshelf speakers.
Cheapest I can think of is those Dayton BS speakers. But I think walang center. Let's wait for a good deal sa MP.
Ok din ang floorstander but for entry - midlevel pio receivers, tapos naka-set naman sa SMALL ang speakers, BS ka na lang. Yun can also check out the Polk M series.

Thanks sir, i just got the wharfs dcp 5.1 na. Cheap and good enough for my living room. Imagine my wife got mad pa on the size of these speakers, too big daw.  It looks ugly sa living room daw, puro gamit ko na daw hehehe. Paano pa if i buy those really good bookshelf speakers? hehehe.
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 14, 2013 at 07:49 AM
Thanks sir, i just got the wharfs dcp 5.1 na. Cheap and good enough for my living room. Imagine my wife got mad pa on the size of these speakers, too big daw.  It looks ugly sa living room daw, puro gamit ko na daw hehehe. Paano pa if i buy those really good bookshelf speakers? hehehe.

My wife asked me kung seller daw ba ako ng speakers kasi madami daw. Haha!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Moks007 on Jul 14, 2013 at 08:18 AM
My wife asked me kung seller daw ba ako ng speakers kasi madami daw. Haha!

Hehe, one thing kasi mga women, they like clean, yun sobrang maayos and konting kalat lang, no clutter. Galit na galit wife ko kasi daw our bedroom naging cinema na hehe. Puro cabinet for blurays, mga gears and wall frames of movies hehe. I bought a classic sean connery james bond poster in canada and negotiating to frame and hang it. Galit na galit siya hehe. I might have to wait until i have a home cinema room na.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 14, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Hehe, one thing kasi mga women, they like clean, yun sobrang maayos and konting kalat lang, no clutter. Galit na galit wife ko kasi daw our bedroom naging cinema na hehe. Puro cabinet for blurays, mga gears and wall frames of movies hehe. I bought a classic sean connery james bond poster in canada and negotiating to frame and hang it. Galit na galit siya hehe. I might have to wait until i have a home cinema room na.

That's a sign na you need a dedicated room na. And this is also a sign na O.T. na din tayo.  ;D
Title: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: crazyhog on Jul 18, 2013 at 01:12 AM
yes...... so satisfied. PIONEER user here


vs my old HTiB Onkyo
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on Jul 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Hello mga gurus. Im looking for an entry (or even mid range AVR, if budget permits), and currently considering the VSX522. But i need to clarify some things regarding this AVR before pulling the trigger. I'm working on a tight budget so I might get the speakers individually whenever I have the the cash to burn...

1. If Say I'll only get the AVR first, is it ok to use this AVR on a stereo or 2.0 config just for the time being while I do not have the cash to spend on FS speakers? If it is, I'll be using a MS Carnival 1 (my existing BS that I use with a T-Amp), is this ok?

2. I'm thinking of getting the Polk M20 for my front, Sw110 for the sub, and OM3 for the surround. Do these speakers match this AVR? If they do, what center speaker could you recommend? If they don't, then what model would you suggest?

3. Since I might get the AVR alone or with the M20 (depending on my my cash on hand when i decide to pull the trigger), do you recommend that I get a higher model AVR first then the M20 later or the VSX522 + the M20?

4. If I opted to get just the AVR, what model can you recommend? Say 15-18k budget?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 22, 2013 at 11:25 PM
bro why not get the 1021?
kahit 2nd hand sa mp :)
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 23, 2013 at 12:04 AM
bro why not get the 1021?
kahit 2nd hand sa mp :)

Oo nga. Mga 2012 models ng vsx, parang of lower klase kesa sa 2009, 2010 & 2011 models of the same level.
Malapit nang mapunta sa MP ang 1020 ko. Nakaka-tukso ang LX ni Louie. Pinag-aaralan ko pa kung may kukuha ng svs eq nya.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 23, 2013 at 05:07 AM
Bro konsi madali na dispose yun svs nya sunggaban mo na pio nya :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 23, 2013 at 07:19 AM
Bro konsi madali na dispose yun svs nya sunggaban mo na pio nya :)

Yup. Just waiting ng ka-volt-in.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 23, 2013 at 07:35 AM
Yup. Just waiting ng ka-volt-in.

Naka terms pa un konsi kunin mo na.. bwahahaha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: kangkaroth on Jul 26, 2013 at 01:40 PM
Question po mga sir. I noticed may parang white spots when im watching. I tried playing bypassing my avr(BDP to TV), nawala sya. i tried substituting the hdmi cables to troubleshoot kung cable lang, ganun pa din. Pioneer 1022 po nga pala yung AVR. a few months before, yung HDMI 1 IN di gumana, so i simply moved it to HDMI 2, ok na ulit. Yung White spots, can i be caused by accumulated lang, or any ideas ano kaya yun?

if ever, san ba ok magpacheck/gawa ng avr natin?

Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 26, 2013 at 02:50 PM
Question po mga sir. I noticed may parang white spots when im watching. I tried playing bypassing my avr(BDP to TV), nawala sya. i tried substituting the hdmi cables to troubleshoot kung cable lang, ganun pa din. Pioneer 1022 po nga pala yung AVR. a few months before, yung HDMI 1 IN di gumana, so i simply moved it to HDMI 2, ok na ulit. Yung White spots, can i be caused by accumulated lang, or any ideas ano kaya yun?

if ever, san ba ok magpacheck/gawa ng avr natin?

Thanks

I assume may warranty pa yan so pwedeng isauli for repair.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: kangkaroth on Jul 26, 2013 at 03:07 PM
unfortunately, wala na po e  :(
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 26, 2013 at 05:53 PM
unfortunately, wala na po e  :(

Nakow. Lets wait for others na may experience with repairs.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 26, 2013 at 05:57 PM
Question po mga sir. I noticed may parang white spots when im watching. I tried playing bypassing my avr(BDP to TV), nawala sya. i tried substituting the hdmi cables to troubleshoot kung cable lang, ganun pa din. Pioneer 1022 po nga pala yung AVR. a few months before, yung HDMI 1 IN di gumana, so i simply moved it to HDMI 2, ok na ulit. Yung White spots, can i be caused by accumulated lang, or any ideas ano kaya yun?

if ever, san ba ok magpacheck/gawa ng avr natin?

Thanks

Pacheck mo sa service center ng pioneer kanina lang dinala namin ang onkyo ni derick sa authorized service center and 300 pesos for checkup to check ano issue talaga.Labor 2800 + parts if may papalitan. Sa tingin ko okay na din.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 26, 2013 at 11:58 PM
Pacheck mo sa service center ng pioneer kanina lang dinala namin ang onkyo ni derick sa authorized service center and 300 pesos for checkup to check ano issue talaga.Labor 2800 + parts if may papalitan. Sa tingin ko okay na din.
ot: 110v yun 805 di ba?
Title: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 27, 2013 at 06:01 AM
ot: 110v yun 805 di ba?

Yes bro
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jul 27, 2013 at 10:37 AM
^ malas mo naman. malamang power transistors nyan nasira, taking the tweeter with it.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: kangkaroth on Jul 27, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Pacheck mo sa service center ng pioneer kanina lang dinala namin ang onkyo ni derick sa authorized service center and 300 pesos for checkup to check ano issue talaga.Labor 2800 + parts if may papalitan. Sa tingin ko okay na din.
san po ba ang service center?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Jul 27, 2013 at 03:12 PM
^google can help you
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: AlvinladeN on Jul 28, 2013 at 10:46 PM
Planning to change my Onkyo 608 to vsx922. Worth it or should i go 1122 or lx-56?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jul 28, 2013 at 11:37 PM
Pioneer+Rotel+Goldenear combo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pWLygWPonc)
Kindly choose 720p on youtube :)

Enjoy ^-^
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Aug 03, 2013 at 03:25 PM
hi guys,

i have a pioneer vsx 522 receiver... currently using a polk audio psw125 sub thru LFE connection...

plano ko sana mag dual sub... im thinking of getting another polk audio psw110 sub...

pa assist naman sa proper connection...

thanks
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 03, 2013 at 07:22 PM
hi guys,

i have a pioneer vsx 522 receiver... currently using a polk audio psw125 sub thru LFE connection...

plano ko sana mag dual sub... im thinking of getting another polk audio psw110 sub...

pa assist naman sa proper connection...

thanks

Y-connector.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: baroki on Aug 04, 2013 at 11:25 AM
guys yun 521 ko bigla na lang nawalan ng audio at video sa hdmi. pag uwi ko kagabi para manood ng tv ganun na sya. tried changing cables na at nirekta ko pc hdmi ko sa tv ok naman. di na nag lilight up yun red hdmi led sa right side ng front panel. any ideas? pero dadalhin ko na ito sa monday sa service center sa pasay.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 04, 2013 at 04:02 PM
guys yun 521 ko bigla na lang nawalan ng audio at video sa hdmi. pag uwi ko kagabi para manood ng tv ganun na sya. tried changing cables na at nirekta ko pc hdmi ko sa tv ok naman. di na nag lilight up yun red hdmi led sa right side ng front panel. any ideas? pero dadalhin ko na ito sa monday sa service center sa pasay.

Sir try resetting the unit first beafore bringing it to a service center para hindi masayang oras and pera nyo.

From page 38 of the VSX-521k manual

Resetting the Main Unit:

Use this procedure to reset all the receiver's setting to the factory default. Use the front panel controls to do this.

1. Switch the receiver into standby.
2. While holding down BAND, press and hold STANDBY/ON for about two seconds.
3. When you see the RESET? appear in the display, press AUTO SURROUND/STREAM DIRECT. OK? shows on the display.
4. Press ALC/STANDARD SURR to confirm. OK appears in the display to indicate that the receiver has been reset to factory default settings.


You can also download the PDF manual here:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/Manuals/Home/VSX-521-k_OperatingInstructions020711.pdf

:)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: baroki on Aug 04, 2013 at 04:36 PM
ahh nakita ko nga yan. itry ko mamaya. pero hindi ba settings lang yan? wala naman ako kasi ginalaw bago ko sya iniwan at umalis ng bahay. sana nga kayanin. thanks.

UPDATE: just tried resetting it. wala pa din. oh well. time to make use of the warranty.

dinala ko na sa service center. tentative 1 week daw. nakakalungkot pakinggan yun builtin tv speakers  :'(
Title: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on Aug 05, 2013 at 12:23 AM
To VSX-521k owners, were you able to set up the HDMI Standby Passthrough feature? I cant seem to make this feature work with any of the sources i am using (PS3 and Xtreamer). I tried turning on both HDMI Control and ARC but it doesn't work. How did you do it? TIA...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Aug 05, 2013 at 01:04 AM
ahh nakita ko nga yan. itry ko mamaya. pero hindi ba settings lang yan? wala naman ako kasi ginalaw bago ko sya iniwan at umalis ng bahay. sana nga kayanin. thanks.

UPDATE: just tried resetting it. wala pa din. oh well. time to make use of the warranty.

Bro.. have you tried using the other HDMI port sa 521 mo and make sure na yung source input is set sa HDMI. sometimes we often to overlooked this. if wala pa rin. use the warranty na..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: vandread21 on Aug 05, 2013 at 11:48 PM
Ok naman kaya ang VSX LX53? Thanks
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 06, 2013 at 03:40 PM
Ok naman kaya ang VSX LX53? Thanks

Ok naman yan sir. Elite series na yan. Pero depende din naman kc kung ano ang personal requirement mo, what do you expect and preference mo.
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Aug 06, 2013 at 07:42 PM
Y-connector.

may sampol pictures ka ba nun y-connector for dual sub setup sir? tnx
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: DTNS on Aug 06, 2013 at 07:53 PM
may sampol pictures ka ba nun y-connector for dual sub setup sir? tnx

it looks like this:
(http://mkcinternational.com/images/accessories/Y_adapter.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Aug 06, 2013 at 08:52 PM
it looks like this:
(http://mkcinternational.com/images/accessories/Y_adapter.jpg)

may idea ka kung how much yun ganyan..

tnx sir
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: DTNS on Aug 06, 2013 at 08:57 PM
thanks sir, may idea ka kung how much yun ganyan..

P600 kay mike c. less kung sa hardware store. pero gold-plated ang kay mike. ;)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Aug 06, 2013 at 08:58 PM
P600 kay mike c. less kung sa hardware store. pero gold-plated ang kay mike. ;)

may disadvantage ba sa pag gamit ng ganyang connector versus sa mga receiver na may ready dual sub out?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Aug 06, 2013 at 09:17 PM
may disadvantage ba sa pag gamit ng ganyang connector versus sa mga receiver na may ready dual sub out?


If your receiver has 2 subwoofer outputs you could use that. Its basically the same coz most receivers(but not all) with 2 sub outs just split the signal internally.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Aug 06, 2013 at 09:23 PM
If your receiver has 2 subwoofer outputs you could use that. Its basically the same coz most receivers(but not all) with 2 sub outs just split the signal internally.

ganun pala... thanks for the info sir... by the way, is it recommended to use same model of sub for a dual sub setup?
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 06, 2013 at 10:12 PM
ganun pala... thanks for the info sir... by the way, is it recommended to use same model of sub for a dual sub setup?

If you would be feeding the same signal to both subs, yes, dapat identical.
But if you plan to delegate different cutoffs or frequencies, baka there's no need to be identical, pero masmaganda pa din kung same brand and model.
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Aug 07, 2013 at 01:11 AM
If you would be feeding the same signal to both subs, yes, dapat identical.
But if you plan to delegate different cutoffs or frequencies, baka there's no need to be identical, pero masmaganda pa din kung same brand and model.

copy sir, sana may magbenta pa ng isa pang polk audio psw125 sub ... abangers mode :) tnx
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: yscko0917 on Aug 11, 2013 at 12:24 AM
pa suggest nmn po receiver plus 2 floorstanding speakers my budget is 30k saka nalang cguro yung center, surround at sub hehe tight budget, mag start palang akong bumuo ng 5.1 set up...naka edifier s530d 2.1 set up lang ako ngayon...(50/50 movies and music)
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Aug 13, 2013 at 03:49 AM
any owners of pioneer vsx 522 receiver? paano po paganahin yun HDMI pass through? may setting po ba na kailangan enabled sa receiver? thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 13, 2013 at 05:29 AM
any owners of pioneer vsx 522 receiver? paano po paganahin yun HDMI pass through? may setting po ba na kailangan enabled sa receiver? thanks
passthrough i stand by mo...dapat lalabas na ung pic ng source sa tv kahit stand bu si pio..hindi ko napagana sa 1021 ko yan hehe sa 22series working na ata
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 13, 2013 at 07:10 AM
pa suggest nmn po receiver plus 2 floorstanding speakers my budget is 30k saka nalang cguro yung center, surround at sub hehe tight budget, mag start palang akong bumuo ng 5.1 set up...naka edifier s530d 2.1 set up lang ako ngayon...(50/50 movies and music)

In this thread, expect people to suggest Pioneer receivers because nasa Pioneer receiver thread tayo. With your budget, I'd rather get a pair of very good bookshelf speakers kesa floorstanders. Average entry-mid level Pio pre-owned receivers would cost you around P6-14k. try visiting our suking brick and mortar stores to audition different brands of speakers to your liking. ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Aug 13, 2013 at 09:44 AM
Question lang mga ka-Pioneer owners...

Since Pioneer AVRs doesn't have LPF on LFE signal unlike other AVRs(eg. Denon and Onkyo which is usually set at 120Hz), does this mean that whatever the original frequency content of that LFE signal is untouched by the Pioneer receiver and then sent to the subwoofer plus the redirected bass from the other speaker channels that is crossover'd at a certain frequency, let's say 80Hz?
Or the speaker channel crossover setting acts as the LPF on LFE?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: chax on Aug 13, 2013 at 10:36 AM
Hi guys, any review po regarding sa VSX 322?

I'm planning to buy pre-owned. Just starting to build my humble theater system. :)
Component ang balak ko gawing speaker. Haha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 13, 2013 at 04:36 PM
Question lang mga ka-Pioneer owners...

Since Pioneer AVRs doesn't have LPF on LFE signal unlike other AVRs(eg. Denon and Onkyo which is usually set at 120Hz), does this mean that whatever the original frequency content of that LFE signal is untouched by the Pioneer receiver and then sent to the subwoofer plus the redirected bass from the other speaker channels that is crossover'd at a certain frequency, let's say 80Hz?
Or the speaker channel crossover setting acts as the LPF on LFE?
yes and yes. i think pioneer did the right thing by not putting LPF on the sub channel, makes the signal somehow purer. wala namang high frequency content ang lfe.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Aug 13, 2013 at 08:12 PM
yes and yes. i think pioneer did the right thing by not putting LPF on the sub channel, makes the signal somehow purer. wala namang high frequency content ang lfe.

I see. Alright, many thanks sir Marc :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: yscko0917 on Aug 13, 2013 at 10:09 PM
pwede na kaya ang Pioneer VSX521 sa Wharfedale Diamond 10.7?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nicadraus on Aug 13, 2013 at 10:47 PM
pwede na kaya ang Pioneer VSX521 sa Wharfedale Diamond 10.7?

Sir pwede naman kaya lang you won't get to use the Diamond 10.7's full potential. Better get an AVR with more power. The VSX-521/522 is/are better used with 80-120w rated speakers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogs on Sep 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM
passthrough i stand by mo...dapat lalabas na ung pic ng source sa tv kahit stand bu si pio..hindi ko napagana sa 1021 ko yan hehe sa 22series working na ata

Mine is 1121, pass through is working with Panny VT30 at HDMI ARC from a PS3 HDMI to HDMI 1 Pio 1121
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogs on Sep 23, 2013 at 11:00 AM
Guys question lng po sa may mga nakaexperience na, I have a 1121, ung banana plug na gamet ng wharf 10.6, 10CM ay 9DFS.

Ung gold plated na banana plug nagiging grayish to black tas ung patner na plug na kulay gray eh nagiging black pero naalis nmn pag nilinis.

Anu po ba ang cause ni2? Maxado bang mahina ung banana plug or nalalakasan ba xa sa watt? Wala nmng issue sa performance. Pansin ko lng 2 pag nachecheck ung mga plugs. Ang dumi kasi tingnan haha.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 23, 2013 at 08:19 PM
Guys question lng po sa may mga nakaexperience na, I have a 1121, ung banana plug na gamet ng wharf 10.6, 10CM ay 9DFS.

Ung gold plated na banana plug nagiging grayish to black tas ung patner na plug na kulay gray eh nagiging black pero naalis nmn pag nilinis.

Anu po ba ang cause ni2? Maxado bang mahina ung banana plug or nalalakasan ba xa sa watt? Wala nmng issue sa performance. Pansin ko lng 2 pag nachecheck ung mga plugs. Ang dumi kasi tingnan haha.

Baka tarnishing sir. Can you post pictures?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Sep 23, 2013 at 11:19 PM
Guys question lng po sa may mga nakaexperience na, I have a 1121, ung banana plug na gamet ng wharf 10.6, 10CM ay 9DFS.

Ung gold plated na banana plug nagiging grayish to black tas ung patner na plug na kulay gray eh nagiging black pero naalis nmn pag nilinis.

Anu po ba ang cause ni2? Maxado bang mahina ung banana plug or nalalakasan ba xa sa watt? Wala nmng issue sa performance. Pansin ko lng 2 pag nachecheck ung mga plugs. Ang dumi kasi tingnan haha.

Sure ka bang Gold yan? Hindi kaya kulay gold lang, kaya nagtatarnish.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: DTNS on Sep 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM
Sir pwede naman kaya lang you won't get to use the Diamond 10.7's full potential. Better get an AVR with more power. The VSX-521/522 is/are better used with 80-120w rated speakers.

IIRC, may pre-out for front channels ang 522. so kailangan lang ng 2-channel power amp para sa Diamond 10.7. :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogs on Sep 25, 2013 at 07:22 AM
Cguro nga kulay gold lng haha, anyway I will try to post a pic here. Para in case na mag-cause ito ng something sa unit maige ng maagapan. Thanks to all
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Sep 26, 2013 at 05:23 AM
IIRC, may pre-out for front channels ang 522. so kailangan lang ng 2-channel power amp para sa Diamond 10.7. :)

Sir In my Understanding po is yung preout ng 522 ay for surrounds/front heights use po. 11XX series po ang may mga pre-out.
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 26, 2013 at 08:26 AM
Sir In my Understanding po is yung preout ng 522 ay for surrounds/front heights use po. 11XX series po ang may mga pre-out.

Or baka zone 2.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dencio105 on Sep 26, 2013 at 09:31 AM
passthrough i stand by mo...dapat lalabas na ung pic ng source sa tv kahit stand bu si pio..hindi ko napagana sa 1021 ko yan hehe sa 22series working na ata

Mine is also VSX 1021 gumagana naman passthrough.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Ron_21 on Oct 04, 2013 at 03:03 PM
is 522/523 enough for a 25sqm sala?

thanks.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Oct 04, 2013 at 04:26 PM
kulang yan. need mo rin source, tv, speakers, sub and seats.  ;D

at moderate listening levels pwede na yan, unless you have very low sensitivity speakers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Ron_21 on Oct 04, 2013 at 04:56 PM
nyahahaha..

i will be using wharf 10.4, is that okay?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Oloap on Oct 04, 2013 at 05:38 PM
question to pioneer users:

why is pioneer avr cheaper than the other brands (HK, Onkyo, Denon)? Does pioneer have less features? Less power? Bad performance?

i would like to replace my old HK avr and would like to try pioneer.

thanks.
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 04, 2013 at 05:56 PM
question to pioneer users:

why is pioneer avr cheaper than the other brands (HK, Onkyo, Denon)? Does pioneer have less features? Less power? Bad performance?

i would like to replace my old HK avr and would like to try pioneer.

thanks.


It has more features compared sa mga ka-level nya sa price range. May mga powerful elite receivers din na competitive with other brands. My current receiver is already my 2nd pioneer receiver. I'm still using my first pioneer which I bought pre-owned. No issues so far. I guess one thing lacking with vsx models are the pre-outs. Elite models have pre-outs, but with its current powerful proprietary class D amplification, I'm not sure kung magagamit mo pa ang pre-outs.
Overall for me, if ever I would change my receiver, I'd stick with Pioneer. I know I'm getting my money's worth.
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Oloap on Oct 04, 2013 at 06:45 PM

It has more features compared sa mga ka-level nya sa price range. May mga powerful elite receivers din na competitive with other brands. My current receiver is already my 2nd pioneer receiver. I'm still using my first pioneer which I bought pre-owned. No issues so far. I guess one thing lacking with vsx models are the pre-outs. Elite models have pre-outs, but with its current powerful proprietary class D amplification, I'm not sure kung magagamit mo pa ang pre-outs.
Overall for me, if ever I would change my receiver, I'd stick with Pioneer. I know I'm getting my money's worth.

thanks Nelson.

Sayang naman kung walang pre-outs ang mga vsx models.

initially planned to get an elite lx53 but ran out of stocks so im eyeing the vsx1121. What do you think of this?

2 questions - is it true that speaker settings are only set to Small? and that the vsx can not equalize subs?

Title: Re: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 04, 2013 at 06:50 PM
thanks Nelson.

Sayang naman kung walang pre-outs ang mga vsx models.

initially planned to get an elite lx53 but ran out of stocks so im eyeing the vsx1121. What do you think of this?

2 questions - is it true that speaker settings are only set to Small? and that the vsx can not equalize subs?

Speaker settings are either small or large.
I'm not sure if all vsx cannot equalize subs. Mind doesn't. But you can also check out Weng's mini DSP. You can EQ your sub for less than P6k ata.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Oloap on Oct 04, 2013 at 07:18 PM
Speaker settings are either small or large.
I'm not sure if all vsx cannot equalize subs. Mind doesn't. But you can also check out Weng's mini DSP. You can EQ your sub for less than P6k ata.

manual calibration na lang siguro. maraming salamat.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Oloap on Oct 14, 2013 at 08:18 PM

@nelson de león,

sir, is it true that an entry level elite series is better than the top of the line VSX level? sound quality is more robust and punchier - is this true?

the only difference i see (1122 vs elite 56) is the THX certification and the DTS:NEO. Am i missing something?

Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 14, 2013 at 08:31 PM
@nelson de león,

sir, is it true that an entry level elite series is better than the top of the line VSX level? sound quality is more robust and punchier - is this true?

the only difference i see (1122 vs elite 56) is the THX certification and the DTS:NEO. Am i missing something?

Honestly I haven't compared the 2012-2013 models of entry elite and top of the line vsx. Dati kc, yun mga entry level ng elite have robust amplification talaga. Mga Class D icepower or proprietary D3 ang lahat ng elite. Pero ngayon kc, hindi pa class D ang mga entry ng Elite. More on features kc napansin ko, ang vsx models. Though powerful naman ang 1020 ko. It's driving 5 pcs na 4ohms 10" coax, speakers set to small. Pwera pa yun 4 ohms na 8"ers ko. All at reference levels. Pero when set to large, nasa 70db lang ako at most otherwise, nag-auto protect siya.
But kung mga 6-8 ohms lang for the higher vsx, I'm sure kaya nya.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:00 AM
lahat ng pioneer vsx coming from the same year, elite or not, pare-pareho ang amp section, magkakaiba lang power supply.

implemented din sa SC series.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Oloap on Oct 15, 2013 at 03:19 PM
lahat ng pioneer vsx coming from the same year, elite or not, pare-pareho ang amp section, magkakaiba lang power supply.

implemented din sa SC series.



sir markcrenz,

assuming that the vsx1122 and elite sc53 are of the same year, walang pinagkaiba lamang-loob? pareho dapat sound quality? does power supply have something to do with sound quality?

thanks.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Oct 15, 2013 at 06:07 PM
they have diff amps. vsx and elite vsx has class ab amps, elite sc has class d, or for them D3
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 15, 2013 at 06:13 PM
they have diff amps. vsx has class ab amps, sc has class d, or for them D3

Oo nga. Nagbago na ulit ang mga pioneer. Class D na maski entry level nila NG ELITE. Dati kasi hindi eh. Huwaw!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Oct 15, 2013 at 06:28 PM
^ corrected by

vsx and elite vsx has class ab amps, sc and elite sc has class d
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Oct 15, 2013 at 06:57 PM
wala yatang elite sc53, elite vsx 53 lang. and since vsx, class ab amp nya, same with vsx 1122. kung pareho price nila i'd pick the elite model anytime.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Oloap on Oct 15, 2013 at 07:41 PM
wala yatang elite sc53, elite vsx 53 lang. and since vsx, class ab amp nya, same with vsx 1122. kung pareho price nila i'd pick the elite model anytime.

sorry about that. yes, its vsx-lx53.

the price difference is about 8K. will that justify getting the elite?
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 15, 2013 at 07:50 PM
sorry about that. yes, its vsx-lx53.

the price difference is about 8K. will that justify getting the elite?

What model ng Elite?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:23 PM
vsx 53 vs 1122 konsi.

53 has a tad more power, 12v trigger and complete preouts. there may be other specs and features where the 53 betters the 1122, up to you to decide whether the price diff is worth it.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: benzng on Oct 22, 2013 at 03:36 PM
any feedback on the VSX 322 as an entry level amp for my polk audio 400Ch bar speaker? thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogs on Nov 07, 2013 at 02:11 PM
Question, is 1121 suppports 5.1 from DVD using RCA to receiver? I only see pre-out, I tried using this setup for PC that has 3x3 3.5m converted to RCA, during testing I plugged them on the Pre-out as input all speakers works when testing from the sound card software but when playing a movie seems won't work or the center and surround has a minimal sound. The computer does not have HDMI or optical. And there is no dedicated input for 6 channel audio for RCA.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Nov 07, 2013 at 05:41 PM
basta may wires/kuryente NEVER use OUT for IN!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dm1179 on Nov 07, 2013 at 06:19 PM
@acepogs: if not sure, always refer to your owner's manual before connection. the VSX-1121 does not have 5.1ch analog inputs. PRE-OUT are outputs to be connected to external Power Amps.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mbtorn on Nov 07, 2013 at 06:35 PM
Question, is 1121 suppports 5.1 from DVD using RCA to receiver? I only see pre-out, I tried using this setup for PC that has 3x3 3.5m converted to RCA, during testing I plugged them on the Pre-out as input all speakers works when testing from the sound card software but when playing a movie seems won't work or the center and surround has a minimal sound. The computer does not have HDMI or optical. And there is no dedicated input for 6 channel audio for RCA.

why do you need 5.1 inputs? just connect your vsx 1121 to your dvd/blu ray player via hdmi and your receiver can output 7.1 channels.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogs on Nov 07, 2013 at 07:52 PM
I used the word DVD to be as the PC that uses 3 x 3.5mm or 6 RCA channels, nasa service kasi ang TV ko, cannot use PS3 ung monitor is VGA only and I can only use a PC that has 6 channels or 3 3.5mm jack, no HDMI or Optical/SPDIF. Like said hindi ko magamet ng maayos ang pre-out as input, pero pag nag play test ka sa PC VIA HD Audio 6channel sound test, lhat sila meron. And pag dating sa movie using VLC or Media player ng naka Dolby 5.1 and source mahina ang center at wala nmn surround. I wonder panu xa nagkaganun. So siniset ko na lng ung VLC sa stereo mode then gawin na lng surround ni pio of course hindi xa fully 5.1. Perhaps hindi na ba supported ng mga receiver ngaun ang multi channel analog input?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 07, 2013 at 08:44 PM
basta may wires/kuryente NEVER use OUT for IN!
@acepogs: if not sure, always refer to your owner's manual before connection. the VSX-1121 does not have 5.1ch analog inputs. PRE-OUT are outputs to be connected to external Power Amps.
I used the word DVD to be as the PC that uses 3 x 3.5mm or 6 RCA channels, nasa service kasi ang TV ko, cannot use PS3 ung monitor is VGA only and I can only use a PC that has 6 channels or 3 3.5mm jack, no HDMI or Optical/SPDIF. Like said hindi ko magamet ng maayos ang pre-out as input, pero pag nag play test ka sa PC VIA HD Audio 6channel sound test, lhat sila meron. And pag dating sa movie using VLC or Media player ng naka Dolby 5.1 and source mahina ang center at wala nmn surround. I wonder panu xa nagkaganun. So siniset ko na lng ung VLC sa stereo mode then gawin na lng surround ni pio of course hindi xa fully 5.1. Perhaps hindi na ba supported ng mga receiver ngaun ang multi channel analog input?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Nov 07, 2013 at 09:04 PM
if he doesn't get our point konsi, pagkaayos ng tv, receiver or pc sound card naman ipaparepair... may the best opamp win!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Ron_21 on Nov 07, 2013 at 09:58 PM
question. lets say iout ang audio ng tv using optical papuntang receiver. tapos ac3/stereo format lang yung audio/movie.

5.1 or 7.1 pa din ba ang ilalabas na sound ng receiver. or need talaga ng 5.1 or 7.1 source?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Nov 07, 2013 at 10:27 PM
any stereo source can be processed to 5.1/7.1 by any modern a/v receiver, just choose the settings.

pero iba syempre compared to a discrete 5.1/7.1 source.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogs on Nov 08, 2013 at 05:38 PM
Aw sorry di ko ata nabasa ung message sa taas before I post my second message. Thanks.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: marfin on Nov 21, 2013 at 01:58 PM
Sorry if i post on the wrong thread...

I just got vsx-522 and when trying to connect to my PS3 the video will flickered several times before it works ok.

My connection: PS3> hdmi game vsx-522 > TV

anybody here having same experienced? 
i want to know earlier before trying to bring the unit back maybe is a known issue.

btw i have no other hdmi sources to test with, i try to connect my sony handycam thru hdmi and play the recorded video and no flickering occur.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Nov 22, 2013 at 02:45 PM
Sorry if i post on the wrong thread...

I just got vsx-522 and when trying to connect to my PS3 the video will flickered several times before it works ok.

My connection: PS3> hdmi game vsx-522 > TV

anybody here having same experienced? 
i want to know earlier before trying to bring the unit back maybe is a known issue.

btw i have no other hdmi sources to test with, i try to connect my sony handycam thru hdmi and play the recorded video and no flickering occur.

isolate using another HDMI cable.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: marfin on Nov 22, 2013 at 03:07 PM
isolate using another HDMI cable.

I did sir pero same thing parin may flickering(picture and sound going in and out) parang nag aadjust sya ng video, minsan after 1 minute bago maging ok

my ps3 is an old fat 80Gb cfw multiman.

my current remmedy but not a solution is to direct PS3> TV then use toslink cable  TV > vsx-522
 
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 23, 2013 at 08:09 AM
I did sir pero same thing parin may flickering(picture and sound going in and out) parang nag aadjust sya ng video, minsan after 1 minute bago maging ok

my ps3 is an old fat 80Gb cfw multiman.

my current remmedy but not a solution is to direct PS3> TV then use toslink cable  TV > vsx-522

Have you tried the other HDMI ports? Kung may upscaling ang receiver mo, have you tried turning it off or selecting native?
Title: Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: marfin on Nov 27, 2013 at 04:06 PM
Have you tried the other HDMI ports? Kung may upscaling ang receiver mo, have you tried turning it off or selecting native?

SOLVED.!!!

Yes sir na try ko narin lahat ng HDMI pero ganyan parin, later on i went to PS3 Video settings and set all HDMI output to 1080p rather than automatic and this has solved the issue.

Seems like yung PS3 nga ang nag auto i-initialize that caused the flickering... ;D

Now it works fine na...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: iconlord on Dec 14, 2013 at 02:29 PM
need some advice guys, im torn between a used 2years old pioneer vsx920K 7.1 and my current 5 months old vsx522 5.1 receiver..

im thinking of selling my 522 and buy the 920 7.1 receiver..

thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: russman on Dec 18, 2013 at 04:45 PM
Any feedbacks sa VSX-523K mga ser? Nagbasa ako ng mga review sa net oks naman. Noobie set up palang to be paired with Polk Audio TSI 100 and PSW110.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ashelyacts on Dec 22, 2013 at 01:46 AM
What is a good pioneer home theater setup or receiver for a newbie? Im currently using a cheap 2.1 PC speaker woofer on my 32 inch tv.

I saw a pioneer package for 29k and the receiver has 4k video upscaling and airplay. It includes tall speakers and huge subwoofer. Is this a good deal?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: zram18 on Dec 22, 2013 at 01:36 PM
baka yung pioneer todoroki set yan sir, yung madalas makita sa mga appliance store. personally, naaudition ko na mga yun, pero di ko nagustuhan sound. pati subwoofer, di maganda..something is lacking sa characteristics ng sound, lacks the punch. pioneer, magaling sa receivers, pero sa speakers esp subwoofers, i believe not their main forte. talo cla ng other brands.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: DTNS on Dec 22, 2013 at 05:29 PM
baka yung pioneer todoroki set yan sir, yung madalas makita sa mga appliance store. personally, naaudition ko na mga yun, pero di ko nagustuhan sound. pati subwoofer, di maganda..something is lacking sa characteristics ng sound, lacks the punch. pioneer, magaling sa receivers, pero sa speakers esp subwoofers, i believe not their main forte. talo cla ng other brands.

I second the motion! I heard a pioneer todoroki subwoofer before. boomy cya!  :-\ mas clean pa bass ng Crown subwoofer.  ::)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ashelyacts on Dec 24, 2013 at 01:15 AM
Yep todoroki and the av receiver is vsx 323? Is that receiver good? How bout i get only the receiver the. Get a different brand speakers and woofers?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: DTNS on Dec 24, 2013 at 05:56 PM
Yep todoroki and the av receiver is vsx 323? Is that receiver good? How bout i get only the receiver the. Get a different brand speakers and woofers?

if the specs and features of the 323 are enough for you, then get it. but I would recommend a different brand of speakers and sub.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: amrod_palantir on Jan 09, 2014 at 01:08 PM
pioneer avr + onkyo htib speakers set . any feedback on this combo?
i have a set (not being used) which i could pair with a possible 521 or 821 reciever kasi.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 09, 2014 at 01:27 PM
pioneer avr + onkyo htib speakers set . any feedback on this combo?
i have a set (not being used) which i could pair with a possible 521 or 821 reciever kasi.

Are you referring to the big/full size htib (those standard BS type speakers) by onkyo? If yes, get the more powerful model.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: amrod_palantir on Jan 09, 2014 at 03:17 PM
sorry i forgot to mention that the speakers set comes from the onkyo HT-s3400 HTIB.
smaller sized 6ohm speakers sya. just dont now if this pio + onkyo combo will be bright or warm sounding.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jon2 on Feb 11, 2014 at 08:51 PM
lumabas na ba slim line receiver ng pio?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: emerdeguia68 on Mar 11, 2014 at 04:23 PM
patulong naman..mine is pioneer vsx 520k,  binili ko ito almost 2years ago brand new at abenson..yung power 

minsan pag bubuksan mo mahirap ma turn on..pipindutin mo pa ng ilang beses bago mag on..kailangan na ba
 
dalin sa service center or pwede pa linisin lang?






Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 11, 2014 at 06:32 PM
Could be a defect in the standby circuit. Most probably the drive or the relay that supplies the power to the main power transformer. Nakapagrepair na ako ng ganyang defect, tutong na pala yung relay contacts kaya minsan may contact minsan wala.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: emerdeguia68 on Mar 11, 2014 at 08:58 PM
Could be a defect in the standby circuit. Most probably the drive or the relay that supplies the power to the main power transformer. Nakapagrepair na ako ng ganyang defect, tutong na pala yung relay contacts kaya minsan may contact minsan wala.
bro  medyo mahal ba pag pinagawa ko? thank you sa reply!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 12, 2014 at 12:24 AM
bro  medyo mahal ba pag pinagawa ko? thank you sa reply!

Best you bring your unit to his place para ma-actual ang estimate. Taga QC siya.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 12, 2014 at 12:47 AM
patulong naman..mine is pioneer vsx 520k,  binili ko ito almost 2years ago brand new at abenson..yung power 

minsan pag bubuksan mo mahirap ma turn on..pipindutin mo pa ng ilang beses bago mag on..kailangan na ba
 
dalin sa service center or pwede pa linisin lang?

Bro I have the same dillema before with my 520K. di ba agad nag reresponse pag ung sa power button on the unit itself ang ginagamit mo but works fine pag power on using the remote? I believe you are using a voltage regulator. Test it out by plugging in the unit directly to the wall outlet and see if your reciever will power on immediately using the button on the unit. If it works fine then have the voltage output of your voltage regularoty check and calibrated. markcrenz is also right it might be the standby circuit that is causing the issue. Give us a feedback bro..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: emerdeguia68 on Mar 17, 2014 at 12:59 AM
yes
Bro I have the same dillema before with my 520K. di ba agad nag reresponse pag ung sa power button on the unit itself ang ginagamit mo but works fine pag power on using the remote? I believe you are using a voltage regulator. Test it out by plugging in the unit directly to the wall outlet and see if your reciever will power on immediately using the button on the unit. If it works fine then have the voltage output of your voltage regularoty check and calibrated. markcrenz is also right it might be the standby circuit that is causing the issue. Give us a feedback bro..
yes pag remote wala naman problema...im not using a voltage regulator..direct connection sa outlet
           minsan isang pindot lang on na..pero minsan din ilang pindot pa bago mag on.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 17, 2014 at 01:37 AM
Sometimes you have to wait for a few seconds after plugging it.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogie on Mar 17, 2014 at 10:17 AM
My Pioneer VSX 1020-K died yesterday. When i'm turning it on hanggang power on lang siya then mamamatay na. The PQLS light is flashing. Saan ko kaya ito pwede ipa repair?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 17, 2014 at 10:29 AM
^ nag-reset ka na? if you did and still shuts down i can do a quick checkup for free
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogie on Mar 17, 2014 at 10:56 AM
Sir hindi ko na makuhang i reset dahil ayaw nya na tumuloy mag on. Mag didisplay lang yung "power on" ng 1 sec. then mamatay ulit. Then nag bblink yung PQLS.

Sir you do home service ba? or san po place nyo para mapa check up ko. thanks. 
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 17, 2014 at 12:59 PM
Sir hindi ko na makuhang i reset dahil ayaw nya na tumuloy mag on. Mag didisplay lang yung "power on" ng 1 sec. then mamatay ulit. Then nag bblink yung PQLS.

Sir you do home service ba? or san po place nyo para mapa check up ko. thanks. 

Have you tried removing all connections? HDMI, speaker wires, coax etc?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogie on Mar 17, 2014 at 01:43 PM
Yes sir na try ko ng i-disconnect lahat ganun pa din. 110v nga pala yung unit.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 17, 2014 at 01:59 PM
Yes sir na try ko ng i-disconnect lahat ganun pa din. 110v nga pala yung unit.

Don King Markcrenz na ang solution diyan.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 24, 2014 at 11:30 PM
Hi fellow DVD members,

My Pioneer VSX-1022 K died on me today and has no power in it. I brought it to Pioneer service center in Novaliches and was assessed with 1,500 for the labor and 3,000 for the parts replacement. Is this price fair knowing that my reciever loose power while watching a movie. I tried to disconnect all the cables on the back and still no power. BTW my unit is 110V. Your inputs is appreciated po.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: qguy on Mar 24, 2014 at 11:33 PM
Did they mention the parts to be replaced ?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 24, 2014 at 11:54 PM
Did they mention the parts to be replaced ?

@Sir qguy,

They haven't told me the damage part. I wasn't expecting this much for a no power issue on a reciever. I had my vsx 420k repaired as well last year for no power issue as well and they just charged me 2.5k for the part and labor. Knowing that I was under the impression that the cost of repairing my 1022k is just the same bracket but unfortunately I was told that the parts and price of labor for my 1022 is higher compared to my old vsx 420. Never the less I already approved the repair, I just want to know if 4.5K is a fair price for a no power issue on a receiver.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 24, 2014 at 11:56 PM
Hi fellow DVD members,

My Pioneer VSX-1022 K died on me today and has no power in it. I brought it to Pioneer service center in Novaliches and was assessed with 1,500 for the labor and 3,000 for the parts replacement. Is this price fair knowing that my reciever loose power while watching a movie. I tried to disconnect all the cables on the back and still no power. BTW my unit is 110V. Your inputs is appreciated po.
sa kin mo pagawa half lang nyan charge ko.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: kangkaroth on Mar 25, 2014 at 12:01 AM
diba sir jnazareta, 1 yr pa lang yan sa yo and bnew mo sya nakuha?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 25, 2014 at 01:08 AM
Opo sir 1 year pa lang po ito, Bnew po ito nung nabili ko but this unit was from US(110V) kaya po di honored ang warranty here satin..I called the service center and was told that I have to pay the 20% of the total cost for pulling out kasi naorder na nila yung parts and dadating na daw bukas yun..haist....Sayang yung offer ni sir markcrenz makakatipid sana ako. Next time pag nagloko ito kay sir markcrenz ko na agad dadalhin...I was thinking of selling this pa naman to get an 1120 or 1121 para may pre-out na for future upgrade...
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: kangkaroth on Mar 25, 2014 at 01:20 AM
grabe muntik na. kung kinagat ko pala offer mo sir. yari ako, hehehhe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: qguy on Mar 25, 2014 at 02:26 AM
out of curiosity, ask for the damage parts :) For that price dapat transformer ang papalitan :)


@Sir qguy,

They haven't told me the damage part. I wasn't expecting this much for a no power issue on a reciever. I had my vsx 420k repaired as well last year for no power issue as well and they just charged me 2.5k for the part and labor. Knowing that I was under the impression that the cost of repairing my 1022k is just the same bracket but unfortunately I was told that the parts and price of labor for my 1022 is higher compared to my old vsx 420. Never the less I already approved the repair, I just want to know if 4.5K is a fair price for a no power issue on a receiver.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 25, 2014 at 02:30 AM
grabe muntik na. kung kinagat ko pala offer mo sir. yari ako, hehehhe

Not really sir, Baka natapat lang..baka nagtampo yung 1022 ko kasi naramdaman nya na trade ko sya or benta ko sya...now I'll keep it na lang po after the repair and get an onkyo or yamaha to pair with my wharf po..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 25, 2014 at 02:32 AM
out of curiosity, ask for the damage parts :) For that price dapat transformer ang papalitan :)



Definitely sir, I will ask on what part did they replace. As for my previous experience po with my VSX 420k, It only cost me 2.5K for the repair having the same no power issue. when I got the receiver they hand over a small plastic with Ic's in it. Probably it will be the same but still Im opting why it cost 4.5K for a no power issue unless then replace a board or something..
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 25, 2014 at 11:03 PM
Update lang po. I called the Pioneer Service Center and was told that they are replacing the System IC and Transistors on my receiver. I was informed that the System IC' that they replaced cost more than 2K and their labor for the repair is 1.5K and the other parts that they replaced are around 1K that sums up to 4.5K. They are now testing my receiver and I will pick it up on Saturday po. Hope everything will be okey na sa receiver ko.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: kangkaroth on Mar 25, 2014 at 11:05 PM
ano po cause bat nasira yun? para ma avoid ng ibang pio avr users sir
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 26, 2014 at 12:42 AM
ano po cause bat nasira yun? para ma avoid ng ibang pio avr users sir

Sir kangkaroth,

I will get back to you on that after I pick up my unit on Saturday, I was surprised that a System IC cost that much or probably they jacked up the price of the part, IMHO the labor is not fair as well which cost 1.5K.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 26, 2014 at 01:52 AM
Sir kangkaroth,

I will get back to you on that after I pick up my unit on Saturday, I was surprised that a System IC cost that much or probably they jacked up the price of the part, IMHO the labor is not fair as well which cost 1.5K.

Mahal talaga kapag OEM. Sa sasakyan din ganun.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 26, 2014 at 05:38 AM
Ot magkano ba local pio 1222? Yun may ice amp :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 26, 2014 at 08:00 AM
Ot magkano ba local pio 1222? Yun may ice amp :)

Ang alam ko, since Pio stopped using Ice amp. proprietary class D amp na ang gamit nila. Pero magandang question yan!!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 26, 2014 at 10:45 AM
Ang alam ko, since Pio stopped using Ice amp. proprietary class D amp na ang gamit nila. Pero magandang question yan!!!
ok lang basta mas bright ang tunog mas OK.  san ba tayo makakakita online ng prices ng Pioneer receivers, in pesos ha :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 26, 2014 at 12:32 PM
ok lang basta mas bright ang tunog mas OK.  san ba tayo makakakita online ng prices ng Pioneer receivers, in pesos ha :)

Amazon kung US. Less than $600 siya. Pero shemps iba ang costing ng Distro natin sa Pinas. Discontinued product na daw.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Apr 01, 2014 at 12:15 AM
Hi Fellow Pinoy DVD members,

Just an update on my VSX 1022. It is now up and running and there are 4 IC's replaced. I was told that the cause was electricity daw. kasi daw po naka plug yung voltage requlator ko sa wall outlet and wala daw kasi power delay ang voltage requlator ko that might cause the IC's to be damage. He added that kahit na ka off and voltage regulator and AV receiver ko there's still current going into the receiver and because it was not use for a period time kaya daw po ganon ang pwedeng mangyari. Lesson learned, Now Im hunting for a new voltage regulator na may power on delay button or switch for better prevention.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 01, 2014 at 08:37 AM
Parang malabo ata yun kasi kapag off ang AVR or receiver, the most is sa isang pole lang ang pumapasok ang electricity. You might want to invest in a surge protector instead.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Apr 01, 2014 at 11:03 AM
You can bring your voltage regulator to me for calibration. Lagyan ko na rin ng delay and surge protector.

Kalokohan naman yun sinabi nya na naka-off na voltage regulator may current pa. Sana sinabi na lang nya na hindi namin ma-pinpoint ang cause, mas acceptable pa. All parts are borne to fail at some point in time for any number of reasons.

I don't know about the newer Pioneers, but the older ones (2009 and older) I opened already had line filter and surge protector (common mode choke, x-caps and varistor). However, a redunadant system against surge protection is a good security measure.



Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: qguy on Apr 01, 2014 at 11:27 AM
Is there harm when there are multiple (2) circuit breakers and  surge protection ?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jnazareta on Apr 03, 2014 at 11:21 PM
Parang malabo ata yun kasi kapag off ang AVR or receiver, the most is sa isang pole lang ang pumapasok ang electricity. You might want to invest in a surge protector instead.

Sir Nelson, I do have a panther surge protector po and it is always on po, From the surge protector dun nakasaksak ang CDR-king SVC 1000VA na voltage regulator. I always switch off the voltage regulator when not in use yun nga lang di ko sya unplug sa surge protector.

You can bring your voltage regulator to me for calibration. Lagyan ko na rin ng delay and surge protector.

Kalokohan naman yun sinabi nya na naka-off na voltage regulator may current pa. Sana sinabi na lang nya na hindi namin ma-pinpoint ang cause, mas acceptable pa. All parts are borne to fail at some point in time for any number of reasons.

I don't know about the newer Pioneers, but the older ones (2009 and older) I opened already had line filter and surge protector (common mode choke, x-caps and varistor). However, a redunadant system against surge protection is a good security measure.

Sir markcrenz, It's so generous of you to offer that assistance. I love to bring it to you baka po next week para po macalibrate. I have 2 CDR-King SVC 1000VA voltage regulator. Kindly PM me po the cost of the parts and the labor po. Para po pag kaya ko madala ko agad sa inyo this weekend. If not po baka after ng sweldo na lang. Pero I really appreciate po your generous offer. TIA..!!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raiden213 on Apr 07, 2014 at 10:56 AM
meron ba ditto sa pdvd na may pioneer vsx-1122 receiver? sinusubukan ko kasing I-calibrate pero nawala subwoofer sound nung ginamit ko yung advance mcaac option, gusto ko kasing subukan nalang manual calibration kung may magandang set-up sa inyo dito. Current surround speakers are klipsch reference series with 12" sub.  thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 07, 2014 at 11:16 AM
meron ba ditto sa pdvd na may pioneer vsx-1122 receiver? sinusubukan ko kasing I-calibrate pero nawala subwoofer sound nung ginamit ko yung advance mcaac option, gusto ko kasing subukan nalang manual calibration kung may magandang set-up sa inyo dito. Current surround speakers are klipsch reference series with 12" sub.  thanks in advance!

Hindi ko pa nagamit ang advance MCACC. Pwede mo siguro i-reset. Naka-manual calibration ako sa Pio pero hindi maganda ang set-up ko. Wait mo lang ang mga ibang naka-Pio na magandang set-up.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raiden213 on Apr 07, 2014 at 11:43 AM
Hindi ko pa nagamit ang advance MCACC. Pwede mo siguro i-reset. Naka-manual calibration ako sa Pio pero hindi maganda ang set-up ko. Wait mo lang ang mga ibang naka-Pio na magandang set-up.

Thanks Nelson,

Nung bago ko kasi gamitin advance MCAAC ok pa naman sound output ng sub pero parang ang hina na ngayon tsaka hindi talaga ako satisfied sa quality ng default set-up ng system ko. Nakakabad-trip kasi kapag nagpupunta ako sa pinagbilhan ko ng HT gears ko, same yung tv, speakers set-up nila except Marantz yung receiver pero ang ganda ng sounds kaya napapatambay tuloy ako sa store para mag-demo ng movie. Kaya ganun ko ka-gusto I-calibrate yung sakin para naman gumanda naman ng konti yung quality ng sounds na lumabas sa system ko.

Yung may similar na pioneer vsx 1122 ditto, kindly give me some advice or better yet paki-post narin ditto kung may manual settings kayo sa receiver nyo. thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 07, 2014 at 12:54 PM
Thanks Nelson,

Nung bago ko kasi gamitin advance MCAAC ok pa naman sound output ng sub pero parang ang hina na ngayon tsaka hindi talaga ako satisfied sa quality ng default set-up ng system ko. Nakakabad-trip kasi kapag nagpupunta ako sa pinagbilhan ko ng HT gears ko, same yung tv, speakers set-up nila except Marantz yung receiver pero ang ganda ng sounds kaya napapatambay tuloy ako sa store para mag-demo ng movie. Kaya ganun ko ka-gusto I-calibrate yung sakin para naman gumanda naman ng konti yung quality ng sounds na lumabas sa system ko.

Yung may similar na pioneer vsx 1122 ditto, kindly give me some advice or better yet paki-post narin ditto kung may manual settings kayo sa receiver nyo. thanks

Kung sub volume lang, what if lakasan mo ang sub output sa amp. Pwede din sa individual gain settings ng speaker.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raiden213 on Apr 07, 2014 at 01:21 PM
Kung sub volume lang, what if lakasan mo ang sub output sa amp. Pwede din sa individual gain settings ng speaker.

Thanks ulit sa reply sir Nelson, just backreading on the thread, isa ka pala sa mga expert dito kaya positive input sigurado makukuha kong advice. Bago palang kasi ako sa audio/video hobby na to kaya diko parin masyado alam lahat ng terminology sa set-up/settings. Siguro try ko muna reset into factory settings receiver ko bago ko ulit I-auto/manual calibrate. Parang humina kasi lahat sounds ng mga speakers ko after na sinubukan kong mag-experiment eh. Nandito pala sa link nato ang mga speakers ko (listed on my signature), diko alam kung maganda ba match nila ng receiver ko.. http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/category/audio/10.aspx?type=product&filter=category%253aTV%2B%2526%2BHome%2BTheatre%253bcategory%253aAudio%253bbrandName%253aKLIPSCH

Balak ko rin kasi palitan amp ko kapag na-finalize kona floor plan ng gagawin kong HT room 20'x14'x8' dimension, baka mag-upgrade ako ng receiver and 9.2 surround set-up. Hintayin ko lang siguro bumaba price nitong mga pioneer receiver nato mukhang future proof naman kaya magtagal siguro ang gamit nito  1.http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/product/pioneer-pioneer-9-2-channel-class-d3-network-multi-zone-receiver-sc-1527-k-sc-1527-k/10207798.aspx?path=91b8a660a64610f49e4fc79ff6e40266en02  OR  2.http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/product/pioneer-pioneer-1215-watt-9-2-channel-network-receiver-sc-1528-k-sc-1528-k/10266246.aspx?path=6776ac5bf93419982b15d06e3e3c1925en02
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 07, 2014 at 02:58 PM
Hindi po ako expert. It just so happen na nakabisado ko ang Pio 1020 ko sir. pero honestly, yun advance MCACC, hindi ko ginalaw beause i'm satisfied naman sa personal calibration ko. The big advantage of the advance MCACC, i think, is the multi seat calibration. It's doable naman via manual calibration. But once na nag-multi-seat calibration ka, expect na mabawasan minsan ang SQ sa listening position mo. Kung madalas ikaw lang ang nanunuod and ikaw lang ang critical makinig, i would opt for the single seat calibration.

With your current speakers, i wouldn't worry too much on power. Napakadaling i-drive ng mga Klipsch because i use to own an RB-81. Pero for future proffing, iba pa din yun malakas na amp. Maganda ang mga proprietary class D amp ng pioneer. Nasa Elite series nila.

Yes, try mo muna factory reset. Then calibrate ulit (automatically stored in Memory 1). After calibrating, you can transfer the data from memory 1 to memory 2. From memory 2, you can tweak it na according to your preference. Pero kindly check na din if this is possible with your cyrrent receiver. Hindi ako gaano familiar sa features ng new receivers ngayon pero with my Pio 1020, kaya naman. If possible, at least may memory 1 ka na auto calibration para may reference ka for future tweaking.
Title: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: crazyhog on Apr 07, 2014 at 03:38 PM
+100 for Nelson as an expert or knowledgeable s Pioneer. When i was still hunting for AVR, c sir Nelson ang nakapag convince na magPIO  :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: joeycarag on Apr 17, 2014 at 01:34 AM
Contemplating on buying a pre-owned VSX1021 from a PDVD seller... The only thing different daw in the package is that the remote is the one from the VSX921 which works on the 1021 according to him.  Is this true? Will I be losing some features fro the original remote?

Thank you in advance for your help and advice.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: qguy on Apr 17, 2014 at 07:43 AM
Search the net for the image of the two remotes and compare for missing buttons/features

Contemplating on buying a pre-owned VSX1021 from a PDVD seller... The only thing different daw in the package is that the remote is the one from the VSX921 which works on the 1021 according to him.  Is this true? Will I be losing some features fro the original remote?

Thank you in advance for your help and advice.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: klipsch on Apr 22, 2014 at 10:38 AM
Got my 1st amp, Pioneer 521k. Question sirs, yung media player (Mede9er) ko is connected sa Video HDMI port ng receiver.

Pag naka off yung receiver hindi lumalabas yung Mede8er sa TV, meron ba ako kelangan isetup para gumana yung pass through feature nung amp?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 22, 2014 at 01:03 PM
Got my 1st amp, Pioneer 521k. Question sirs, yung media player (Mede9er) ko is connected sa Video HDMI port ng receiver.

Pag naka off yung receiver hindi lumalabas yung Mede8er sa TV, meron ba ako kelangan isetup para gumana yung pass through feature nung amp?

Meron kaso hindi ko din kabisado. Try turning on the media player first, then yun receiver. Then turn-off the receiver afterwards baka gumana.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Apr 22, 2014 at 04:54 PM
i think the manual describes it in detail. you can download a copy if you don't have one
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 22, 2014 at 05:17 PM
Mark, explain mo nga sa akin please... ;D

Pwede ako mag PS3 kahit di ko on yun AVR?

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Cjtjader on Apr 22, 2014 at 06:19 PM
Tipid ito sa kuryente kung sakali pwede!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Apr 22, 2014 at 06:37 PM
Mark, explain mo nga sa akin please... ;D

Pwede ako mag PS3 kahit di ko on yun AVR?


tamad nyo mag-rtfm, tamad pa mag-gugel!  ;D ;D ;D

from http://www.avforums.com/threads/pioneer-vsx-521k-receiver-audio-pass-through.1553034/
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I got it working... I Had to change a setting under Audio Parameters from 'HDMI AMP' to 'HDMI THRU' and bingo bango! SOUND!!! Yay Manual's troubleshooting section!!!

To cover in case anyone is having this problem
Press the Audio Parameter button (Looks like an x) then scroll up until you see 'HDMI AMP' and hit over to the left or right so it shows 'HDMI THRU' the HDMI will redo the handshake and BAM you should have sound.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Apr 22, 2014 at 06:38 PM
Tipid ito sa kuryente kung sakali pwede!
di naman enjoy...  :P
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 22, 2014 at 06:47 PM
tamad nyo mag-rtfm, tamad pa mag-gugel!  ;D ;D ;D

from http://www.avforums.com/threads/pioneer-vsx-521k-receiver-audio-pass-through.1553034/

andiyan ka naman para mag explain eh! ;D ;D ;D

masubukan nga yan settings na ganyan, magbuhat ng binili ko plasma ko di ko pa nagamit speakers nun eh :P


additional question lang, pag ganun ang setting, pwede ba na naka off yun receiver habang nag ps3?

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 22, 2014 at 06:48 PM
Tipid ito sa kuryente kung sakali pwede!


balik na lang tayo sa coaxial o component connection brader mas simple hahaha!

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Apr 22, 2014 at 07:08 PM
additional question lang, pag ganun ang setting, pwede ba na naka off yun receiver habang nag ps3?
unless may defect yung hdmi board, yes.

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masubukan nga yan settings na ganyan, magbuhat ng binili ko plasma ko di ko pa nagamit speakers nun eh :P
lagyan mo ng acoustic amplifier. may magaling dito gumagawa for android phones, sigurado kaya din nya for plasma and lcd tvs. mga 4" x 8" x 48" lumber siguro kasya na.  ;D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 22, 2014 at 07:27 PM
unless may defect yung hdmi board, yes.


pano pala kung yun HDMI input ng ps3, media player, and DVD lahat i-set ko sa pass through pwede? baka magkarambola audio signal ng mga yun although di ko naman sabay-sabay gagamitin siyempre.

sige masubukan na lang yan idea na yan brad.


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lagyan mo ng acoustic amplifier. may magaling dito gumagawa for android phones, sigurado kaya din nya for plasma and lcd tvs. mga 4" x 8" x 48" lumber siguro kasya na.  ;D

loko mo di na kailangan nun may amp naman yun tv ko eh! ;D

di ko pa nga lang na-testing hahaha :P

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Cjtjader on Apr 22, 2014 at 10:23 PM

balik na lang tayo sa coaxial o component connection brader mas simple hahaha!


Muka nga! Hehejej
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: klipsch on Apr 28, 2014 at 06:16 PM
Meron kaso hindi ko din kabisado. Try turning on the media player first, then yun receiver. Then turn-off the receiver afterwards baka gumana.
Got my 1st amp, Pioneer 521k. Question sirs, yung media player (Mede9er) ko is connected sa Video HDMI port ng receiver.

Pag naka off yung receiver hindi lumalabas yung Mede8er sa TV, meron ba ako kelangan isetup para gumana yung pass through feature nung amp?

Napagana ko na :). Kelangan pala yung hdmi out ng receiver naka connect sa tamang hdmi input ng tv, in Samsung 51F5000 sa hdmi/dvi 2 siya gumana sa 1 ayaw. Tapos sa media player naka on yung hdmi cec.

Sa PS4 okay na rin, yung Mac Mini wala na ata pagasa dahil by default wala siya hdmi cec. Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jitzon25 on May 02, 2014 at 10:18 PM
mga sir ano po ba bagay na pang front speaker para sa pioneer vsx528 (euro version)60ht/40music. at anu po bang brand ng HDMI cable na maganda? kasalukuyang gamit ko bose 301 V sa front pilyo sub with amp4v2 at pang mini compo na center speakers. balak ko gawing pang rear na lang yung bose. try ko naman yung floor stander speakers. baka may post na dito di lang ako makapag back read mabagal net ko.. salamat po sa makakatulong in advance.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: isabellaolyn on May 03, 2014 at 11:48 AM
Hi to All,

I am quiet new to PDVD and just would like to share my experience on pioneer amplifier, just bought SC LX 87 last week to replace my aging DENON AVR 2106. 

My current speaker is Dynaudio Audience 52SE and paradigm center type LCR and atom surround.

Power wise the PIO has really enough power but on my set-up I did not notice much difference in terms of musicality in my take, the DENON is almost the same.

My speakers are old maybe 15 years on the average. Should i change speaker to get the most out of the new amp? Any speaker brand?

I returned the amp inside the box because I am still figuring out if it will be staying in the living room or in my bedroom hehehe.


Thanks,

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 03, 2014 at 08:32 PM
Hi to All,

I am quiet new to PDVD and just would like to share my experience on pioneer amplifier, just bought SC LX 87 last week to replace my aging DENON AVR 2106. 

My current speaker is Dynaudio Audience 52SE and paradigm center type LCR and atom surround.

Power wise the PIO has really enough power but on my set-up I did not notice much difference in terms of musicality in my take, the DENON is almost the same.

My speakers are old maybe 15 years on the average. Should i change speaker to get the most out of the new amp? Any speaker brand?

I returned the amp inside the box because I am still figuring out if it will be staying in the living room or in my bedroom hehehe.
Thanks,

Try fiddling with the digital EQ. I did on my VSX-1020.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogs on May 04, 2014 at 01:56 PM
pano pala kung yun HDMI input ng ps3, media player, and DVD lahat i-set ko sa pass through pwede? baka magkarambola audio signal ng mga yun although di ko naman sabay-sabay gagamitin siyempre.

sige masubukan na lang yan idea na yan brad.


loko mo di na kailangan nun may amp naman yun tv ko eh! ;D

di ko pa nga lang na-testing hahaha :P



Comment lng, correct me if I am wrong, sa setting ng Pio 1121k

PS3 HDMI control on connected to Pio HDMI1 >
Pio 1121k -  HDMI Setup = (Control on, Normal mode), Audio parameter - AMP (kung through TV sound only) >
SONY W804 HDMI # (ARC) turned on ang HDMI control or bravia sync on.

Under standby mode kahit ps3 lng ang i-on mo, bubuksan na nya ang TV automatically assuming na lhat ay plugged in including the Pio. While the AVR is up to you kung i-oon mo xa since the TV controls it as well via remote. At this stage palng may display na ang PS3 sa TV even audio. Then sa remote ng TV i-set ko lng na use HT for audio then bubuksan nya ang AVR for audio without affecting the display. Before Panasonic VT30 gamit q once sumond na mag-on ang TV sa PS3 nagcocomand si PANA na buksan din agad si AVR which is minsan di ko nmn need i-on so i-off ko pa. And be sure na khit stand by mode si AVR my red light xa sa right side under HDMI signal meaning may daloy ng signal.

At sa multiple sources, I don't think so na magkakagulo ang audio mo since the Pio remote ay may kanya kanyang source like HDMI,TV/SAT, Tuner, USB/Iphone etc. and only works per source. Unless kung Multi-zone ko pero di q sure since dko pa nagamet ang feature na to.

para po sa standby pass through signal.
Thanks.

Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: isabellaolyn on May 07, 2014 at 09:06 PM
Try fiddling with the digital EQ. I did on my VSX-1020.

Dre, Thanks for the advice now my dynaudio is singing!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 08, 2014 at 03:45 AM
Dre, Thanks for the advice now my dynaudio is singing!!!!!!

Congrats sir! I love your Pio!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: CocoBoy on May 09, 2014 at 10:12 PM
Mga Bros, need suggestions. Av receiver vsx 1020 with diamonds 9.1 and cs. Ok naman,  thinking of upgrading. 30k budget to burn,  floorstands + center or bookshelves + center. Anong pwede?

I have a very small dedicated HT room fitted with a 3d pj setup.

For HT lang as i have a separate 6004+685 two channel setup na.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: grinjin on Jun 06, 2014 at 02:37 PM
mga sir need your help po, ayaw po mag on ng pioneer 1121 ko and yong macc nya eh nag flash lang. nung binasa ko yung manual power unit is damage daw, san ko po ba pwede i pa repair? magkano kaya  ang cost non?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: mykel18 on Jun 06, 2014 at 02:58 PM
Try to inquire here sir:

Zamony Venture Corporation
Tel no.: (632) 852-6706
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: grinjin on Jun 06, 2014 at 05:31 PM
Try to inquire here sir:

Zamony Venture Corporation
Tel no.: (632) 852-6706

thank you sir subukan ko po :)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 06, 2014 at 09:42 PM
Mga Bros, need suggestions. Av receiver vsx 1020 with diamonds 9.1 and cs. Ok naman,  thinking of upgrading. 30k budget to burn,  floorstands + center or bookshelves + center. Anong pwede?

I have a very small dedicated HT room fitted with a 3d pj setup.

For HT lang as i have a separate 6004+685 two channel setup na.

Thanks.

If you run your speakers at full range (speaker setting) and medjo malakas kang mag-play ng volume, you better get very sensitive FS speakers.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogs on Jul 14, 2014 at 11:06 AM
Hello, mine too 1121 no sound pero all good ang display and output, date na xang nawawala ang sound pero bumabalik din, until now 2 days na hindi ko mapagana ung sound, anyone experiencing?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Timithekid on Jul 14, 2014 at 12:17 PM
Mga Bros, need suggestions. Av receiver vsx 1020 with diamonds 9.1 and cs. Ok naman,  thinking of upgrading. 30k budget to burn,  floorstands + center or bookshelves + center. Anong pwede?

I have a very small dedicated HT room fitted with a 3d pj setup.

For HT lang as i have a separate 6004+685 two channel setup na.

Thanks.

May sub na ba yung setup sir?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 14, 2014 at 12:27 PM
Hello, mine too 1121 no sound pero all good ang display and output, date na xang nawawala ang sound pero bumabalik din, until now 2 days na hindi ko mapagana ung sound, anyone experiencing?
baka nasira na ung dsp board nyan...

hdmi lang ba walang output? how about analog? l/r
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogs on Jul 14, 2014 at 02:46 PM
any source eh, kahit channel test lng, dapat doon may sound na pero wala eh, so khit mcacc no speaker error L & R haha
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: acepogs on Jul 21, 2014 at 11:59 AM
after 2 days gumana na xa haha.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Blu-devil on Aug 02, 2014 at 07:42 PM
Just purchased a Pioneer SC2023 Receiver 10 minutes ago. I cannot wait for it to be delivered and I can break it in.

(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu272/blu-devil1967/imagejpg1_zpsbdde137d.jpg)

(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu272/blu-devil1967/imagejpg2_zps2b497b23.jpg)

Goes perfectly with my multi region Pioneer BDP450 BD player.

(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu272/blu-devil1967/imagejpg1_zps58685873.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 02, 2014 at 07:57 PM
Just purchased a Pioneer SC2023 Receiver 10 minutes ago. I cannot wait to break it in.

Wow! May 4K upscaling na! Let us know kamusta ang upscaling.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Blu-devil on Aug 03, 2014 at 03:51 AM
Wow! May 4K upscaling na! Let us know kamusta ang upscaling.

Sorry, English only please.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 03, 2014 at 09:35 AM
Sorry, English only please.

How is the 4k upscaling?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Blu-devil on Aug 03, 2014 at 08:25 PM
Haven't tried it yet. Apparently it is very good.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Blu-devil on Aug 20, 2014 at 04:52 AM
Just got a price adjustment on my SC 2023. £350 is an absolute bargain. Probably cheaper than those Chinese made POS Sold locally at abensons
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Blu-devil on Aug 24, 2014 at 10:07 PM
My babies, installed and running.

(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu272/blu-devil1967/imagejpg4_zpsa7fea129.jpg)

(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu272/blu-devil1967/imagejpg2_zps18650099.jpg)

(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu272/blu-devil1967/imagejpg5_zpseaedcd41.jpg)

(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu272/blu-devil1967/imagejpg1_zpsb98b8924.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 07, 2014 at 07:24 PM
Got me an Elite SC-63. very powerful indeed. It drives my 7 pcs 10" coax 4 ohm speakers with ease at reference levels. Unfortunately i have to sell it because the funds have to be diverted to finance a business. I bought it supposedly for my personal use sana. Thumbs up for the powerful class D amplification of Pioneer and it's tweaking capabilities.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: DViant on Oct 07, 2014 at 07:39 PM
What are the choice pioneer av receivers released in 2014? Take note, never said the best.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dm1179 on Oct 15, 2014 at 07:54 PM
meron pa kayang Pioneer Receivers next year? i read Pioneer Home AV business will be sold to Onkyo.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 16, 2014 at 02:51 AM
meron pa kayang Pioneer Receivers next year? i read Pioneer Home AV business will be sold to Onkyo.

Yes, ang alam ko, there will still be i pioneer receiver next year because Pioneer will still maintain it's name.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Stagea on Oct 16, 2014 at 03:33 AM
What are the choice pioneer av receivers released in 2014? Take note, never said the best.


For me: VSX-1224 / SC-1224 or higher would be fine for most.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: dm1179 on Oct 18, 2014 at 08:36 AM
Yes, ang alam ko, there will still be i pioneer receiver next year because Pioneer will still maintain it's name.

i see. parang 'Marantz & Denon' pala ang magiging dating ng 'Onkyo & Pioneer'.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jelloatad on Nov 13, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Question po regarding advance MACC if yung speaker settings example sa MACC 1 is front ko large
then sa MACC 2 pwde ko po ba ma isave un as small sa front?

thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jelloatad on Nov 13, 2014 at 11:33 AM
settings po sana na magkahiwalay for movies and music.

ito po sana gusto ko mangyari:

MACC 1: Front: Small Center: Small SR/SL: Small Sub: Yes - for Movies

MACC 2: Front: Large Center: Small SR/SL: Small Sub: Plus -  For Music
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 13, 2014 at 11:42 AM
Question po regarding advance MACC if yung speaker settings example sa MACC 1 is front ko large
then sa MACC 2 pwde ko po ba ma isave un as small sa front?

thanks
settings po sana na magkahiwalay for movies and music.

ito po sana gusto ko mangyari:

MACC 1: Front: Small Center: Small SR/SL: Small Sub: Yes - for Movies

MACC 2: Front: Large Center: Small SR/SL: Small Sub: Plus -  For Music


Haven't tried it pero parang hindi pwede eh. Ang speaker size setting is hindi kasama sa memory niya. EQ and T/A ata ang nakalagay sa memory.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: jelloatad on Nov 13, 2014 at 01:20 PM
Haven't tried it pero parang hindi pwede eh. Ang speaker size setting is hindi kasama sa memory niya. EQ and T/A ata ang nakalagay sa memory.

ah so ganun pala dapat..hnde pala ppwde yun salamat sir Nelson.

dapat pala everytime na manood ako ilagay ko sa small ang front ko
and pag music naman large thanks sir!!!
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Moks007 on Mar 18, 2015 at 09:37 PM
Hi guys, just want to ask a question. I have a pioneer 522 that i moved to my main setup because my onkyo 608 is in the service center. So far it sounds great. However i notice when i play movies on my hard drive from my mede8er, the speakers will make a popping sound. It only happens when i press play at the beginning or when i rewind or fast forward or by pressing stop. Pag press ko stop parang fireworks sound. The Popping sounds will come out then it will disappear as the movie runs. It is weird because this is the first time that this happened. I then tried playing my lg bluray player on another hdmi input and it does not have any popping sounds. It played excellent.

What could this be? Thanks. Takot ko masira speakers ko.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 19, 2015 at 10:42 AM
Hi guys, just want to ask a question. I have a pioneer 522 that i moved to my main setup because my onkyo 608 is in the service center. So far it sounds great. However i notice when i play movies on my hard drive from my mede8er, the speakers will make a popping sound. It only happens when i press play at the beginning or when i rewind or fast forward or by pressing stop. Pag press ko stop parang fireworks sound. The Popping sounds will come out then it will disappear as the movie runs. It is weird because this is the first time that this happened. I then tried playing my lg bluray player on another hdmi input and it does not have any popping sounds. It played excellent.

What could this be? Thanks. Takot ko masira speakers ko.

Sa med8er yan. ganyan din sa akin. It happened when I updated my med8er.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: esr101 on Mar 19, 2015 at 10:51 AM
Yup. I have vsx522 and mede8er and been experiencing that as well. Sa xtreamer, i did not experience that.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Moks007 on Mar 19, 2015 at 12:17 PM
Sa med8er yan. ganyan din sa akin. It happened when I updated my med8er.

Yup. I have vsx522 and mede8er and been experiencing that as well. Sa xtreamer, i did not experience that.

Thanks so much guys. Ya that is what i suspected, the mede8er. I will try my other nmt later.

By the way the pioneer sounded great. Sayang 5.1 lang siya.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Moks007 on Mar 21, 2015 at 11:37 AM
Hi guys, I just checked it and indeed it is my mede8er.
So what is my option here while im using my pioneer? So
1. I cant use mede8er
2. Is there a way around this?

Another thing, may i ask, i tried a rca y connector so i can use 2 subs, how come it doesnt work? Am i doing something wrong? Sa setting ba yan? Thanks
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 21, 2015 at 03:47 PM
Hi guys, I just checked it and indeed it is my mede8er.
So what is my option here while im using my pioneer? So
1. I cant use mede8er
2. Is there a way around this?

Another thing, may i ask, i tried a rca y connector so i can use 2 subs, how come it doesnt work? Am i doing something wrong? Sa setting ba yan? Thanks
Dapat hawak mo 2 remotes so you can immediately mute the Pio before performing operations on the Med8.


Try mo muna 1 sub lang with another cable. Baka sira Y splitter.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Moks007 on Mar 22, 2015 at 09:09 AM
Dapat hawak mo 2 remotes so you can immediately mute the Pio before performing operations on the Med8.


Try mo muna 1 sub lang with another cable. Baka sira Y splitter.

Thanks very much for the tips sir. I will try it today.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 21, 2022 at 03:45 PM
San na mga tao dito? Huhu :D
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: synchro_01 on Jul 21, 2022 at 08:25 PM
San na mga tao dito? Huhu :D

Mine is still going strong. No plans of replacing it in the near future.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 22, 2022 at 07:55 AM
Mine is still going strong. No plans of replacing it in the near future.

Same here sir. Still using Pioneer VSX-1021-K. 10+ years na to sakin. Hehehe
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: synchro_01 on Jul 22, 2022 at 09:03 AM
This one still gives out hours and hours of great sound.  No issues whatsoever.

Current AVR's look and sound puny compared to the over engineered ones a decade ago. 

Elite SC 37

(https://static-data2.manualslib.com/product-images/36/3507/350636/raw.jpg)

Lab measured by Sound and Vision magazine to produce 270 watts per channel @ 4 ohms. https://www.soundandvision.com/content/pioneer-elite-sc-37-av-receiver-ht-labs-measures

My 7 channels Dynes are pigs to drive at 4 ohms with 85db sensitivity but they surrender to this powerhouse.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: synchro_01 on Jul 22, 2022 at 09:25 AM
This model is my holy grail.  Haven't seen one being sold in the US for a very long time. One unit popped up in Ebay 2 years ago but may issue sa LCD screen so the waiting game continues...

Elite SC09TX.   They will not make AVR's like this anymore. Sinlaki na ng isang microwave oven yan.

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/i/c3d761e2-d5a8-4d37-a2ca-dab86f222cbe/d2opihi-b7aaf045-0e34-41ec-9c48-1822ff3d5bce.jpg)
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 26, 2022 at 09:32 PM
My Pioneer Elite is still serving me well. Mine was the model where you can copy the MACC auto calibration settings and transfer it to a different memory. Plus you can even edit or change it. Elites are powerhouse.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: synchro_01 on Jul 26, 2022 at 11:12 PM
Till now I haven't even explored all the functions of my Elite AVR. The manual is 148 pages. Almost everything is adjustable.

Sanay kasi ako sa basic stereo component controls. Power on, Volume...press play and enjoy. No adjustment for bass, treble, balance.   
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: rhodem24 on Jul 27, 2022 at 06:54 AM
Pero ngayon sir, wala na talagang kahit AV Receivers ang Pioneer Philippines no? Lahat galing outside PH na.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: RastaSega on Sep 01, 2022 at 06:09 PM
don't you find Pioneer receivers to be too colored? Granted the Elite series does this well
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Dec 05, 2022 at 08:20 PM
I have a Pio 523k that has been with me for 6+ years. It gave up on us recently with the flashing red light error on the HDMI. Tried to reset to no avail. Brought it to a repair shop who is currently checking on it. Initial feedback is that the main board is busted. Initial estimate is P7k to P8k but to be finalized.

Worth for it to be repaired? And a repaired / replaced board ( the part may not be brand new as Pioneer no longer produces that model? What about the longevity after the repair?
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: Nicadraus on Dec 05, 2022 at 11:21 PM
I have a Pio 523k that has been with me for 6+ years. It gave up on us recently with the flashing red light error on the HDMI. Tried to reset to no avail. Brought it to a repair shop who is currently checking on it. Initial feedback is that the main board is busted. Initial estimate is P7k to P8k but to be finalized.

Worth for it to be repaired? And a repaired / replaced board ( the part may not be brand new as Pioneer no longer produces that model? What about the longevity after the repair?

I had the similar problem with my 521 back in 2014. My unit was barely 3 years old and it stopped working all of a sudden. I brought it to Pioneer and they said that it's the board that needs replacement. I pulled it out because that's what they would usually say when they're too lazy to diagnose properly and see what components only need replacement. Then I brought it to a trusted technician who fixed it by replacing the regulator and some ICs. Then it worked for about a year. Until the some other problems started to occur like only left channel working. Video signal will flash on the TV, and a few more. I searched and read many other forums that common problems have happened to many 52x, 82x, 112x, and other entry-mid level units. Which made me decide to give the unit away and bought a mid-level Yamaha 7,2 instead and I'm so happy with it. Never had any problems so far. Also sounds much better and more options.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Dec 06, 2022 at 10:53 AM
Thank you for your inputs sir. Whew. Grabe. First time to experience a receiver breaking down on me. Yammy kasi gamit ko before and upgraded to this one as HDMI era na.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 06, 2022 at 12:30 PM
I have a Pio 523k that has been with me for 6+ years. It gave up on us recently with the flashing red light error on the HDMI. Tried to reset to no avail. Brought it to a repair shop who is currently checking on it. Initial feedback is that the main board is busted. Initial estimate is P7k to P8k but to be finalized.

Worth for it to be repaired? And a repaired / replaced board ( the part may not be brand new as Pioneer no longer produces that model? What about the longevity after the repair?
Entry level model, wag mo na gastusan repair kung HDMI board ang sira.
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: ivannn on Dec 09, 2022 at 01:46 PM
Decided to acquire a new receiver na lang and went with denon. Happy kami since last night. So now, selling the pioneer naman
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: defined on Dec 29, 2022 at 09:50 PM
Good day po, hingi lang po sana ng advice regarding my vsx 521...naistock po kasi siya no power nag click sound lang parang yun relay tapos  after 5 sec click sound ulit parang turn off....ano po kaya possible na problem?salamat
Title: Re: Pioneer Receivers
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 30, 2022 at 11:49 AM
Blinking power indicator? Sira amplifier section nyan.