Post by: kn89 on Oct 11, 2007 at 10:47 AM
Any comments po sa PSB Speaker which is the best system for Ht setup as well as Audio.
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 11, 2007 at 12:02 PM
Hello!
Any comments po sa PSB Speaker which is the best system for Ht setup as well as Audio.
PSB speakers have consistently been cited as having great "value for money" speakers.
I have a pair of PSB Stratus Goldi speakers which I purchased in 1999. Excellent speakers for both HT and Audio but you need a very powerful amp to drive them properly. I have no experience with other PSB models.
I am actually interested in their new Synchrony series but I don't think these are available locally yet. Baka November pa raw.
I understand there is a new distributor for PSB locally. Kayo ba yun?
Post by: bongskicool on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:14 PM
PSB speakers have consistently been cited as having great "value for money" speakers.
I have a pair of PSB Stratus Goldi speakers which I purchased in 1999. Excellent speakers for both HT and Audio but you need a very powerful amp to drive them properly. I have no experience with other PSB models.
I am actually interested in their new Synchrony series but I don't think these are available locally yet. Baka November pa raw.
I understand there is a new distributor for PSB locally. Kayo ba yun?
yes.. I agree.. i used to own one.. the PSB century 1000 rated at 4ohms kaya medyo hirap i- drive pero pag nakatapat ng match na amp. with its needed power, sus! ang ganda naman.. 8) 8)
Post by: blackie on Oct 11, 2007 at 07:44 PM
I have PSB Alpha Mini's. Quite old models ;D I use them now for rear speakers. I used to enjoy them as bookshelf speakers. Pretty good for music and HT purposes. I still really enjoy them, as they have kept me from getting replacements.
Cheers!
Blackie :D
Post by: Lucky7 on Nov 16, 2007 at 10:02 AM
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=657301
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 16, 2007 at 10:27 AM
Check this psb owner's thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=657301
No offense but that thread is kinda dead - just like this thread so far. Hardly anyone posts there and no one seems to have any experience with latest PSB speaker series - Synchrony.
Post by: Dday on Dec 10, 2007 at 04:00 PM
Any comments on psb b25?
I listened to it during the show. it sounds good and big!
For its srp na P19500. this could be one of the best speakers today.
Post by: blackie on Dec 12, 2007 at 07:41 AM
But PSB's are also known to be bang for the bucks speakers ;D
BTW they look gorgeous!
Post by: deuce on Dec 12, 2007 at 09:24 AM
Post by: blackie on Dec 12, 2007 at 08:29 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 12, 2007 at 10:09 PM
Post by: busabos on Dec 13, 2007 at 01:15 AM
The Megamall branch was also Upscale Audio. Looks like that store has died.
They are now in Libis
Post by: ches on Dec 13, 2007 at 10:27 AM
http://www.hifiplusasia.com/
got a chance to listen to one of there hight end bookshelf which i think is the synchrony series. last dec.1 at the audio show.
Post by: Dday on Dec 17, 2007 at 01:08 PM
We invite you to come/visit our showroom to audition NAD elctronics and PSB speakers: Hifi Plus Asia, Inc., Paragon Tower, 531 A. Flores St., Ermita, Manila. Tel. 526-3831
Post by: Dday on Dec 17, 2007 at 01:40 PM
PSB B1
Stereophile Product of the Year
Each December since 1992 the editorial team at Stereophile celebrate music and the audio components that bring music home to our hearts and soul. PSB's Alpha B1 was voted "2007 Budget Product of the Year." Here is what Stereophile's Stephen Mejias had to say:
Deep down inside, the “Budget Product of the Year” category strikes a special chord with us all—perhaps because it reminds us of our hi-fi beginnings, perhaps because it has a way of rekindling our enthusiasm. For newcomers to the hi-fi hobby, our category of “Budget Product of the Year” is reserved for components that are absolutely, honest to god, without a doubt, affordable. Meanwhile, for more experienced audiophiles, it is refreshing and exciting to rediscover how much musical pleasure can be achieved for so very little money.
Again, we had a large class of impressive candidates, with seven earning first-place votes—but it was the wonderful little PSB Alpha B1 that won our hearts. The B1 comes from a long line of overachieving loudspeakers; the original Alpha was a runner-up in our very first “Products of the Year” gala, in 1992. Back then it sold for a modest $199/pair. Fifteen years later, the B1’s price has risen by a mere $80, making it actually less expensive in real terms than the original Alpha. Now, that is just crazy. More important, it is proof positive that true hi-fi sound can be brought into nearly any home.
Though the Alpha B1 makes compromises in loudness capability and low-frequency extension, its glorious midrange and solid stereo imaging bring a wide range of musical performances—even large-scale orchestral works—into rich, vibrant focus. JA was very pleased, noting “superb measured performance” and marveling at the PSB’s ability to stand proud in a system costing more than 200 times its price. He advised audiophiles to buy pairs for friends and family. I took his advice, sort of—I bought a pair for myself.
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“A simply sensational audio bargain.”
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“A simply sensational audio bargain.”
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The PSB Alpha B1 is exactly the kind of product this hobby needs—one that brings the High End down to earth, makes hi-fi attainable for just about everyone, and, beyond all, reminds us how much fun this hobby should be. The Alpha B1 has become my immediate recommendation for anyone seeking hi-fi advice. I’m proud to have a pair in my home. A simply sensational audio bargain. Thank you, Paul Barton.
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Note: PSB's Alpha B1 at $279/pair is also a "2007 Loudspeaker of the Year Award" runner up. This category is dominated by cost-no-object high performance loudspeakers up to $74,995/pair.
Post by: spectraav on Dec 17, 2007 at 06:40 PM
Does anybody know which local audio shops carry PSB? Thanks!sir,
we do have psb speakers for audition @ parksquare 1 ayala center makati
Post by: blackie on Dec 18, 2007 at 07:32 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 18, 2007 at 04:02 PM
We invite you to come/visit our showroom to audition NAD elctronics and PSB speakers: Hifi Plus Asia, Inc., Paragon Tower, 531 A. Flores St., Ermita, Manila. Tel. 526-3831
Do you carry the PSB Synchrony series?
Post by: Dday on Dec 19, 2007 at 11:58 AM
Post by: Dday on Jan 04, 2008 at 02:34 PM
PSB Alpha B1 Loudspeaker
The Absolute Sound's 2007 Golden Ear Awards
By: Neil Gader
It's hard to figure why the PSB Alpha B1 sounds as good as it does. Outwardly, it looks like any number of prosaic, under $300 econoboxes. There's one crucial difference, however. In two words, "Paul Barton." It's Barton, the eponymous founder and chief engineer behind this Canadian company, who drives his team to infuse PSB speakers with unerring musicality and tonal accuracy. Derived from a long line of critically reviewed Alphas, the newest B1 has been honed, refined, recontoured, and fussed over by Barton in a way that only a fellow stickler could understand. Barely twelve inches tall, this little blaster grabs hold of a signal with the determination of a pit bull and gives it a sling-shot ride that says "bite me" to the competition.
"The Alpha B1 has been fussed over by Barton in a way that only a fellow stickler could understand."
Clobber it with dynamically charged orchestral material or groove-driven hip-hop, and the B1 yawns. Sure, it's not perfection--- there's a bit of a presence slump near the crossover point, the tweeter is not the last word in silken refinement, and the soundstage is a bit amorphous. But all told, the proof in this pudding was the simple fact that I couldn't turn 'em off! That's what a great speaker should do. At $279 the pair, there is now no excuse for anyone to feel excluded fron the high-end. Price: $279. psbloudspeakers.com (reviewed in Issue 170)
Post by: blackie on Jan 06, 2008 at 08:51 PM
Post by: Dday on Jan 07, 2008 at 01:25 PM
Sights & Sounds has the last pair of PSB B25.
It is the recommended speaker for 2007 of Stereophile magazine at its price range.
;)
Post by: Dday on Jan 09, 2008 at 12:16 PM
PSB IMAGE B25 loudspeaker: $479/pair
Stereophile 500 Recommended Components
Special Issue
The Image B25 is a two-way, reflex-loaded, magnetically shielded loudspeaker using a ferrofluid-colled 1" aluminum-dome tweeter and a 6.5" metalized polypropylene-cone woofer. Setting "a new benchmark at the $450 price point" the B25 combined a midrange that was " dead neutral, liquid and holographic" with "an extraordinary level of detail resolution, perfectly articulate transients, and a broad continuous, organis presentation of the entire dynamic spectrum" . Its measured performance was indicative of its standard-setting sonic quality (Vol.27 No.12 WWW)
Post by: praktikal on Jul 23, 2008 at 11:04 AM
i auditioned B25 (with Nad cd & int amp) yesterday at spectra with Niño of course and boy, this BS sounds awesome. ang lawak ng soundstage, lalo na seguro if you'll feed it with tube amp.
sa mga naghahanap ng BS that sounds big, try nyo 'to.
salamat Niño ;)
Post by: Arulco on Jul 23, 2008 at 01:43 PM
Heard the same setup at spectra also. It blew me away with all that high frequncy detail, soundstage, punch and bass extension. I kinda regret getting a pair of monitor audio br2s over the psb image 25 but they were just too big for my desktop and the psbs didn't have the fat warm mid range and non-fatiguing sound (important for near-field) and looks of the MA BR2s. Oh well, guess you can't have it all.
Post by: ramsey on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:37 PM
Post by: praktikal on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:42 PM
for me ok sya sa music at sa taba ng tunog, no need na for a sub.
Post by: natosan on Aug 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM
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Post by: cls on Oct 04, 2010 at 05:42 PM
Post by: sgxp on Oct 04, 2010 at 09:14 PM
Post by: Stagea on Oct 04, 2010 at 11:19 PM
Will audition PSB Image B6 and Polk RTiA3 this week. Any feedbacks from the B6 or B5? Planning to buy the fronts first. Will be using Onkyo 608.
The B6 bookshelves are warm-sounding, but are fairly detailed. I think they churn out the best mids in this price range. Vocals and strings are absolutely lovely when these speakers are matched well.
The A3 speaks have more snap and bite, which may help if you like playing dynamic material.
Post by: beginner on Oct 05, 2010 at 01:17 AM
Post by: cls on Oct 05, 2010 at 02:15 PM
Post by: 1great on Oct 05, 2010 at 08:24 PM
Very good for movies and music.
Kaya lang di ko mamaximize kasi Pioneer VSX-518 lang receiver ko at hindi ko pa malakasan at kinakatok kami ng kapitbahay namin lalo na ng maikabit yung PSB Subsonic 6i sub ng kasama ko sa bahay.
Post by: Stagea on Oct 06, 2010 at 10:55 AM
Just auditioned the B6. I really impressed with the clarity and bass. A lot better than Alpha imo. Medyo pricey nga lang so leaning towards B5 :) Next audition would be the Rti :)
Yup, malayo talaga siya sa Alpha. It's significantly better than the prior Image series din. The drivers are derived from the Imagine line (same crossover topology and frequency din), but the new Image leans towards warmth (versus the neutral-sounding Imagine speaks).
I think they're excellent speakers for the price. :)
Post by: cls on Oct 06, 2010 at 01:46 PM
Yup, malayo talaga siya sa Alpha. It's significantly better than the prior Image series din. The drivers are derived from the Imagine line (same crossover topology and frequency din), but the new Image leans towards warmth (versus the neutral-sounding Imagine speaks).
I think they're excellent speakers for the price. :)
Post by: Stagea on Oct 06, 2010 at 07:25 PM
Thanks for your inputs. Same price nga din sa RTIa3. Just have to audition the polks for comparison. Question... Malaki ba difference ng B5 sa B6? Medyo mas mura din kasi ;D. Plan ko lang 4 BS, 1 Center, and 10in sub.
Maganda rin yung B5, but you lose some volume. Kung di naman malaki yung room, then it probably won't be an issue (especially kung di mo naman isasagad). The B6 can also cross lower without causing response anomalies (about 10Hz lower), if that matters to you (the B5 will still do the standard 80Hz without issues).
Match mo na lang sa C5 center and B4 surrounds siguro. :)
Post by: cls on Oct 06, 2010 at 07:38 PM
Maganda rin yung B5, but you lose some volume. Kung di naman malaki yung room, then it probably won't be an issue (especially kung di mo naman isasagad). The B6 can also cross lower without causing response anomalies (about 10Hz lower), if that matters to you (the B5 will still do the standard 80Hz without issues).
Match mo na lang sa C5 center and B4 surrounds siguro. :)
Post by: Stagea on Oct 06, 2010 at 08:21 PM
Thats good to know. Medyo maliit lang room ko. Approx 20-30 sq m. and high celing nga lang. I was thinking of just getting the C4 instead of the C5 tapos B4 for surrounds. Hopefully maka audition na ko ng rti this week so i can decide narin.
Daan ka lang kila Marc (AV Shop) dito sa Katipunan kung malapit ka. :) Madalas naman may RTi sila. Mababait mga tao dun. ;)
Post by: cls on Oct 06, 2010 at 10:42 PM
Daan ka lang kila Marc (AV Shop) dito sa Katipunan kung malapit ka. :) Madalas naman may RTi sila. Mababait mga tao dun. ;)
Post by: cls on Oct 29, 2010 at 09:42 AM
Post by: Stagea on Oct 29, 2010 at 11:49 AM
Finally got the B6. What amp can you suggest? I loved it paired with nad. Now i want to know if cambridge audio 740a goes well with the psb. Too bad 5th ave doesnt carry psb. Has anyone heard of ca+psb combo?
I have Imagine Ts coupled with the 840C/840E/840W. They work great, but if you prefer the PSBs with NADs, the sound with CAs would be quite different. :)
Beginner (Razel) has a pair of B6es hooked up to the 550C/550A.
It's best if you can bring your speakers to 5th Ave to test (to know for sure if it fits your preference).
Post by: cls on Oct 29, 2010 at 01:16 PM
I have Imagine Ts coupled with the 840C/840E/840W. They work great, but if you prefer the PSBs with NADs, the sound with CAs would be quite different. :)
Beginner (Razel) has a pair of B6es hooked up to the 550C/550A.
It's best if you can bring your speakers to 5th Ave to test (to know for sure if it fits your preference).
Post by: Stagea on Oct 29, 2010 at 02:25 PM
If you want some warmth, you might be better-served by the 650C/650A, if you're looking at Cambridge Audio models. The x50 models have a noticeably fuller sound when compared to the x40 series products. The greater dynamic reserve also allows them to deliver more weight, if needed. Contact Beginner if you'd like some tips with coupling the current PSB Image products with the CA x50 units.
Post by: cls on Oct 31, 2010 at 03:00 PM
Post by: Stagea on Oct 31, 2010 at 05:05 PM
Hi Stagea. Just came from 5th ave and brought my b6. I was able to hook em up with the 550a and 650a. I found the 2 amps to be on the bright side compared to the nad 315/326.The exterior was really nice though :). I listened to Rush, Primus, and Clapton. I guess its going to be nad-psb combo then. Will there be a big difference if i pair the nad 326 with the ca 550/650c? read some negative users reviews from the net the other day re nad cd players. Anyone here using nad amp+ca cpd?
I'm glad to hear that you have found the match that you want.
Yes, NAD CDPs sound quite different from CA CDPs. Instead of the 740C, the C565BEE might be the CD player that you're looking for. :) It's also an upsampling player with a s/pdif input.
Post by: cls on Nov 01, 2010 at 10:19 PM
I'm glad to hear that you have found the match that you want.
Yes, NAD CDPs sound quite different from CA CDPs. Instead of the 740C, the C565BEE might be the CD player that you're looking for. :) It's also an upsampling player with a s/pdif input.
Post by: Stagea on Nov 02, 2010 at 09:47 PM
I think the 565bee is around 30k+. My budgets 25k for the cdp. When I went back to Watts hifi to listen to the b6-nad combo again, I noticed that they were using rega cables while 5th ave were using the thinner cables(i think generic).Is this one of the reasons why the CA 650 sounded thin/bright to me? Ang ganda din kasi ng exteriors ng CA eh. hehe
You were considering the 740C kasi, that's ~43k srp. That's why I was under the impression that you were looking at that range. The C565BEE's SRP is ~37k ata.
The CA sound is brighter and more forward than the NAD sound, it's not designed to be warm or lush. It's a fast and detailed sound.
If you don't like the sound of gear, I suggest not to buy it. Wires may help you tweak, but it won't make a CA cdp/amp sound like a NAD pair.
Post by: cls on Nov 03, 2010 at 11:24 AM
Post by: himura001 on Dec 27, 2010 at 03:09 AM
Post by: Stagea on Dec 27, 2010 at 03:52 AM
Just got y PSB Image b6. Don't know if this is compatible with my pioneer VSX 919AH-K, but I'am enjoying the clarity and neutral sound of the speaker. I would like to thank Sir STAGEA and Master Nelson for the advices on the speaker selection and subwoofer subject. ;D
Congrats with the new pair sir. :) Those are very very capable speakers for the price.
Post by: himura001 on Dec 27, 2010 at 03:54 AM
Post by: aepaguinaldo on Mar 03, 2011 at 06:55 PM
Post by: 1great on Mar 03, 2011 at 07:03 PM
NAD + PSB is sweetMatch made in Heaven ... as they are from the same owner. ;D
In fact the latest PSB Subwoofers (SubSeries 300 & SubSeries) utilize NAD Amplifiers to power them. ;)
Post by: romymartinez on Mar 04, 2011 at 07:15 AM
re: cdp
if pre-owned is an option, you might want to consder the Arcam CD73T posted in the marketplace for 14K. To my ears the CD73T is a nice, warm, smooth refined sounding CDP. The local distributor (AVDI) used to sell them at 50K srp. And if you really prefer NAD, I believe Sir reymer is selling a C542 for 11K.
Good luck on your CDP hunt!
On PSB speakers
I've recommended to friends here in Nueva Ecija Image series speakers (one got the older B1, while the other got the more recent T45, B15 and center speaker) and they really sound great at their rpice point.
Post by: cls on Mar 04, 2011 at 07:26 AM
@ Sir cls
re: cdp
if pre-owned is an option, you might want to consder the Arcam CD73T posted in the marketplace for 14K. To my ears the CD73T is a nice, warm, smooth refined sounding CDP. The local distributor (AVDI) used to sell them at 50K srp. And if you really prefer NAD, I believe Sir reymer is selling a C542 for 11K.
Good luck on your CDP hunt!
On PSB speakers
I've recommended to friends here in Nueva Ecija Image series speakers (one got the older B1, while the other got the more recent T45, B15 and center speaker) and they really sound great at their rpice point.
Post by: Conan on Apr 01, 2011 at 09:18 PM
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/C0NAN/IMG_4980.jpg)
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/C0NAN/IMG_4982.jpg)
The Christian Bautista CD box is there to isolate the Dayton amp from the heat of the Digibox! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 01, 2011 at 09:39 PM
I'm finally a PSB owner! I got PSB Image B-4 to match with my Dayton DTA-1. I'm actually using this combo to watch cable TV since the sound of the current LCD's are quite pitiful. From my Skycable Digibox I connected the RCA out to the Dayton amp. The sound is wonderful!
Hi Conan! Nice to have met you kanina sa Watt Hifi. I'm really happy na ok ang resulta. Kanina, mukha ngang ninenerbyos ka kung maganda nga tunog sa setup mo. ;D ;D ;D
Ang ibang member dapat sumunod sa iyo! :)
Post by: Conan on Apr 01, 2011 at 09:43 PM
Hi Conan! Nice to have met you kanina sa Watt Hifi. I'm really happy na ok ang resulta. Kanina, mukha ngang ninenerbyos ka kung maganda nga tunog sa setup mo. ;D ;D ;D
Ang ibang member dapat sumunod sa iyo! :)
Nice meeting you too sir Streetsmart! ;D Actually two members have already gave my idea a shot with good results. :)
Post by: sgxp on Apr 03, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Post by: Conan on Apr 03, 2011 at 10:27 AM
Like ko ang mga small woofer psbs, yung mga malalaking psb ay ehem.
What characteristic does the bigger ones have?
Post by: Stagea on Apr 03, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Post by: Conan on Apr 03, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Post by: beginner on Apr 03, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Loved the B6 since I first heard it and if given the chance to own one again (I'm about to sell mine... black B6), I'd get one in cherry. ;D
Post by: Stagea on Apr 03, 2011 at 06:43 PM
The Image B-6 sounded quite good when I heard it at Watts Hi Fi. I also listened to the Synchrony floorstanders with a movie playing and they sounded superb, of course the price is pretty superb too! ;D
PSB Synchrony speakers never sound fluttered. They have a relaxed presentation that is very easy to listen to.
However, I want a little bit of caffeine in my music and the Imagine line delivers that dose.
Post by: buzzworth on Apr 04, 2011 at 06:57 PM
Post by: Conan on Apr 04, 2011 at 07:45 PM
The 1st time i heard PSB speaker I was very impress on how it sound kahit bookshelf (PSB Alpha B1). Kaya ngayon looking forward of owning one, bukas I will give an update on how a PSB B6 sounds using the yamaha dsp-a1 and onkyo 606..and hopefully it will still sound good sa Onkyo since nabenta na yung yamaha. ;D
With my Onkyo 608, the PSB B-4's midrange sounds so good, it's so smooth! ;D In fact I'm still considering switching to an all PSB set-up because of the way the B-4 sounds.
Post by: Stagea on Apr 04, 2011 at 09:55 PM
With my Onkyo 608, the PSB B-4's midrange sounds so good, it's so smooth! ;D In fact I'm still considering switching to an all PSB set-up because of the way the B-4 sounds.
Just continue evaluating them bro. The more you hear them with varied material, the better you can judge if the output suits your preference. :)
Post by: Conan on Apr 04, 2011 at 10:07 PM
Just continue evaluating them bro. The more you hear them with varied material, the better you can judge if the output suits your preference. :)
I just did another evaluation against my Klipsch speakers using music. The midrange of the B-4 is better than the Klipsch but then the Klipsch produces a lot more detail at higher frequencies that sound muffled with the PSB. I wonder if the Mezzo 2 will outdo both? ;D
Post by: beginner on Apr 04, 2011 at 10:32 PM
@Conan
I've used the B6 with both a CA amp and cdp and it still retained its midrange prowess. Plus it also inherited a little bit of the CA signature sound and had more details as compared to when it was hooked up to a NAD amp/cdp. Though the vocals had more warmth when it was connected to a NAD combo.
The Mezzo2... now that's going to be another story as I've yet to own one... better get one as well... ;D
Post by: Conan on Apr 04, 2011 at 10:42 PM
The Mezzo2... now that's going to be another story as I've yet to own one... better get one as well... ;D
Ha-ha! Actually I've always thought that the Mezzo 2 is the best sounding bookshelf that I've heard to date. I was even impressed with the Mezzo 1! The only thing that stopped me from getting it was the Mezzo center did not impress me as much the Klipsch center. But I can never forget the sound of those Mezzo's! ;D
Post by: beginner on Apr 04, 2011 at 11:40 PM
Post by: Stagea on Apr 05, 2011 at 03:36 AM
Try to take off the speaker grilles and have the psbs face you directly. Re-evaluate the highs to see if that sounds better for you
. :)
Post by: Conan on Apr 05, 2011 at 08:46 AM
Conan,
Try to take off the speaker grilles and have the psbs face you directly. Re-evaluate the highs to see if that sounds better for you
. :)
Ok will try again later.
Post by: buzzworth on Apr 05, 2011 at 09:30 AM
Sir Ronald (buzzworth) just got the B6s a while ago. Let's wait for his impressions as I haven't really heard the Image series with Onkyo.Bro Russ.. thanks again for a very smooth deal. 1st thing I did when I got home is to connect the PSB B6 to Onkyo606. 1st test, watch the David Pomeranz and Friends concert..and iba talaga, I really love the way the speaker sounds. Right now, testing it sa audio naman, jazz and vocals and it is really very detailed...overall, it is a good match with Onkyo606...ayoko na i-test sa Yamaha baka magulo ulit ang isip ko.. :)
Now looking forward for an all PSB setup... ;D
Post by: Stagea on Apr 05, 2011 at 10:33 AM
Bro Russ.. thanks again for a very smooth deal. 1st thing I did when I got home is to connect the PSB B6 to Onkyo606. 1st test, watch the David Pomeranz and Friends concert..and iba talaga, I really love the way the speaker sounds. Right now, testing it sa audio naman, jazz and vocals and it is really very detailed...overall, it is a good match with Onkyo606...ayoko na i-test sa Yamaha baka magulo ulit ang isip ko.. :)
Now looking forward for an all PSB setup... ;D
Congrats, Sir Buzzworth. It's hard to go wrong with those speakers. :)
Post by: nbc on Apr 05, 2011 at 12:04 PM
Very good sounding speakers. Currently paired with a BADA Purer integrated tube amp and it plays very good music, If i do say so myself.
Will probably let go of the PSB's, as I recently purchased a new set of speakers... but, will have to test the new set first to see which one i will retain.
It all depends on which pair gives me the sound that I am looking for.
rgds,
Noel
Post by: Conan on Apr 05, 2011 at 04:53 PM
Conan,
Try to take off the speaker grilles and have the psbs face you directly. Re-evaluate the highs to see if that sounds better for you
. :)
I took off the speaker grills and swapped the PSB B4,s position with the Klipsch RB 61 so that they would be a bit nearer toward the center and the Klipsch would be farther. Well the unintended result was that the Klipsch's sound quality improved again! The mids, the highs and the bass improved, it's not even fair to compare them against the B4 anymore.
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/C0NAN/IMG_4991.jpg)
Post by: beginner on Apr 06, 2011 at 12:50 AM
Bro Russ.. thanks again for a very smooth deal. 1st thing I did when I got home is to connect the PSB B6 to Onkyo606. 1st test, watch the David Pomeranz and Friends concert..and iba talaga, I really love the way the speaker sounds. Right now, testing it sa audio naman, jazz and vocals and it is really very detailed...overall, it is a good match with Onkyo606...ayoko na i-test sa Yamaha baka magulo ulit ang isip ko.. :)
Now looking forward for an all PSB setup... ;D
That's good to hear bro! Now you know why maiyak iyak pa ako nung inaabot ko yung B6... :'(
Post by: beginner on Apr 06, 2011 at 01:01 AM
I took off the speaker grills and swapped the PSB B4,s position with the Klipsch RB 61 so that they would be a bit nearer toward the center and the Klipsch would be farther. Well the unintended result was that the Klipsch's sound quality improved again! The mids, the highs and the bass improved, it's not even fair to compare them against the B4 anymore.
Haha! Good for you Sir Conan. Those RB61s totally dwarfed the B4s. Hehe!
Post by: sientobente on May 02, 2011 at 05:59 AM
http://www.stereophile.com/content/psb-alpha-b1-loudspeaker-specifications
Post by: Conan on May 02, 2011 at 06:04 AM
I'm thinking about getting Alpha B1s as my rear surrounds or should I forget about it and aim for higher models? This review seems to speak very well of them
http://www.stereophile.com/content/psb-alpha-b1-loudspeaker-specifications
What are your front speakers?
Post by: Stagea on May 02, 2011 at 06:55 AM
I'm thinking about getting Alpha B1s as my rear surrounds or should I forget about it and aim for higher models? This review seems to speak very well of them
http://www.stereophile.com/content/psb-alpha-b1-loudspeaker-specifications
They are great speakers for the price. However, unless you intend to replace your other speakers with PSBs, then matching your front set would seem to be the most logical option imho.
Post by: sientobente on May 02, 2011 at 07:03 AM
They are great speakers for the price. However, unless you intend to replace your other speakers with PSBs, then matching your front set would seem to be the most logical option imho.good morning master ivan :) ah ganun ba? i think i have to stick with my missions :(
Post by: beginner on May 03, 2011 at 06:01 AM
Post by: Stagea on May 03, 2011 at 01:53 PM
I agree, they're great speakers for the price. Though I'd say, if you like how it sounds, go for it. Since you'll be using it for your rear surrounds, you can enjoy your mission fronts for the meantime without having to think much about matching issues with your Mission LCR. You can then decide later on if you really wanna go the all PSB route.
Ayun o. Good suggestion din. Pag di mo nagustohan yung PSB, edi mag Mission na lang ulet sa surround back then donate mo samin yung PSB.
Kung nagustohan mo yung PSB, palitan mo yung Missions.... then donate mo samin yung Missions. ;D
Post by: napshell571 on May 03, 2011 at 10:18 PM
I have a pair of PSB Image B25's... that i use as my office system.
Very good sounding speakers. Currently paired with a BADA Purer integrated tube amp and it plays very good music, If i do say so myself.
Will probably let go of the PSB's, as I recently purchased a new set of speakers... but, will have to test the new set first to see which one i will retain.
It all depends on which pair gives me the sound that I am looking for.
rgds,
Noel
Hi sir nbc,
Have you retained the psb image B25? Can we have an update? TIA
Post by: beginner on May 04, 2011 at 01:30 AM
Ayun o. Good suggestion din. Pag di mo nagustohan yung PSB, edi mag Mission na lang ulet sa surround back then donate mo samin yung PSB.
Kung nagustohan mo yung PSB, palitan mo yung Missions.... then donate mo samin yung Missions. ;D
Either way, you still win Idol Gerard... because you get to have what you really want... ;D
Post by: sientobente on May 04, 2011 at 08:05 AM
Either way, you still win Idol Gerard... because you get to have what you really want... ;D
Hehehe donation ang usapan dito. E mas mayaman kayong di hamak sa akin. Ako nalang maghihintay ng donation from the 2 of you :)
Post by: Stagea on May 04, 2011 at 02:22 PM
Hehehe donation ang usapan dito. E mas mayaman kayong di hamak sa akin. Ako nalang maghihintay ng donation from the 2 of you :)
Ay yaman na ang usapan dito, wala po akong ganun. Kayo lang ni Master Raz yun mga haciendero.
Post by: resident_evil on Jul 20, 2011 at 09:59 PM
Post by: Conan on Jul 20, 2011 at 09:59 PM
Just got an Imagine B from Rex. Will break in and post feedback. Salamat Rex and Amiel.
Wow, nice! What amp are you using with it?
Post by: resident_evil on Jul 21, 2011 at 12:20 AM
Post by: Conan on Jul 21, 2011 at 09:00 AM
NAD 326 bro. NAD 515 cdp.
That should sound awesome! ;D
Post by: resident_evil on Jul 21, 2011 at 03:26 PM
Post by: otep_32 on Jul 21, 2011 at 04:37 PM
Just got an Imagine B from Rex. Will break in and post feedback. Salamat Rex and Amiel.Thanks Atty..We appreciate your business with us. ;)
Post by: Stagea on Jul 21, 2011 at 05:07 PM
Love the soundstage and bass. You can actually feel the effect of the speaker enclosure on the sound. However, I am tempted to upgrade the amp to provide it more juice.
Congrats! :) C375BEE would be awesome with those speakers. :)
Post by: resident_evil on Jul 21, 2011 at 08:52 PM
Post by: resident_evil on Aug 18, 2011 at 12:09 AM
Imagine B vs. Aurum Cantus BS using NAD 375 amp and 515 CDP
Imagine B vs. Monitor Audio BX2 using NAD 326 and 515 CDP
Ecosse speaker cables
Cal's ICs
No offense to owners of other brands but I like the Imagine better. Not only because I own a pair since I also have the BX2 (I'm a big fan of MA) and I somehow like the looks of the Aurum. I think the Imagine has more body than the Aurum- mas buo tunog in layman's terms-probably because of the Imagine's cabinet. It has better detail in the mids and highs than the BX2. Perhaps the RX2 will be a better basis for comparison. I will try to get my hands on a pair. Surprisingly, it can match the bass of the BX2 despite its smaller woofer.
Maybe, the NAD Aurum or NAD BX2 is not a good match.
Post by: beginner on Aug 18, 2011 at 01:52 AM
Post by: Stagea on Aug 18, 2011 at 06:25 AM
Post by: resident_evil on Aug 18, 2011 at 12:07 PM
Post by: resident_evil on Aug 18, 2011 at 12:08 PM
Post by: Billabong on Aug 18, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Had a chance to compare the Imagine B with the Aurum Cantus BS and Monitor Audio BX2.
Imagine B vs. Aurum Cantus BS using NAD 375 amp and 515 CDP
Imagine B vs. Monitor Audio BX2 using NAD 326 and 515 CDP
Ecosse speaker cables
Cal's ICs
No offense to owners of other brands but I like the Imagine better. Not only because I own a pair since I also have the BX2 (I'm a big fan of MA) and I somehow like the looks of the Aurum. I think the Imagine has more body than the Aurum- mas buo tunog in layman's terms-probably because of the Imagine's cabinet. It has better detail in the mids and highs than the BX2. Perhaps the RX2 will be a better basis for comparison. I will try to get my hands on a pair. Surprisingly, it can match the bass of the BX2 despite its smaller woofer.
Maybe, the NAD Aurum or NAD BX2 is not a good match.
Anong model po ng aurum cantus ito?
Post by: resident_evil on Aug 18, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Post by: otep_32 on Aug 18, 2011 at 12:36 PM
Anong model po ng aurum cantus ito?V3M
Post by: resident_evil on Aug 18, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Post by: sientobente on Feb 18, 2012 at 05:59 PM
Post by: Stagea on Feb 18, 2012 at 08:35 PM
Auditioned a few speakers today. And the PSB Imagine T stood out among those I listened to. Definitely ranks up there on my speaker wish-list along with the Focal Stella Utopia EM and the B&W 800D.
Mukhang humakot ka na ng speakers ah. :)
Post by: sientobente on Feb 18, 2012 at 08:51 PM
Mukhang humakot ka na ng speakers ah. :)
fanboy lang master. nangangarap lang na sana magkaroon ako ng psb. kuhang kuha ng imagine t yung hinahanap ko sa audio. wide sound stage, forward sounding without being too aggressive. airy and crisp highs. and it's explosive--- as in sobrang lakas ng dating.
kaso nung nalaman ko yung retail price niya na P80k+, nasira ang mga pangarap ko kasi hanggang pangarap nalang talaga siya. kaya kapag nagsawa ka na master sa imagine t mo, please reserve it for me ;D
Post by: Stagea on Feb 20, 2012 at 03:01 AM
fanboy lang master. nangangarap lang na sana magkaroon ako ng psb. kuhang kuha ng imagine t yung hinahanap ko sa audio. wide sound stage, forward sounding without being too aggressive. airy and crisp highs. and it's explosive--- as in sobrang lakas ng dating.Meron ka na nga eh. Kamusta naman flagship gear mo?
Si Roy demonyohin mo na din. ;)
kaso nung nalaman ko yung retail price niya na P80k+, nasira ang mga pangarap ko kasi hanggang pangarap nalang talaga siya. kaya kapag nagsawa ka na master sa imagine t mo, please reserve it for me ;D
Cheap lang to for you, Master Gerard. Platinum T8 Master Gerard Signature nga binili mo eh, special creation and delivery ni Paul Barton. :)
Pero happy din ako sa Imagine T. It does what it does very well. It doesn't play very loud, nor does it play low (it behaves more like a big stand-mount speaker with free stands). It's neither very easy to drive, nor is it imposing in size or build. It's not made of exotic materials, and could not not boast of ultra-extended highs.
What it has going for it is neutrality and resolution in the range that it covers. It provides a very clean and low distortion sound. I'd be hard pressed to name another tower speaker that delivers better linearity in this price range.
Just in case you're wondering, may Imagine T2 na din. 2012 model siya, hindi ko lang alam kung meron na locally. If you look at the driver config, you'd know that it got some technology from the Synchrony line.
(http://www.avguide.com/sites/next-tech-guide/files/Imagine%20T2%20Family.jpg)
PSB spreads their LF drivers widely along the front baffle to reduce the effect of floor and ceiling reflections by taking advantage of PLDs to those surfaces (instead of controlling vertical dispersion, as with a traditional d'appolito array). The lower-mounted woofers roll off sooner to prevent them from affecting the point-source effect at higher frequencies (and preventing the floor reflections from ruining the sound).
Post by: gaol on Feb 20, 2012 at 06:53 AM
Meron ka na nga eh. Kamusta naman flagship gear mo?
Si Roy demonyohin mo na din. ;)
Cheap lang to for you, Master Gerard. Platinum T8 Master Gerard Signature nga binili mo eh, special creation and delivery ni Paul Barton. :)
Pero happy din ako sa Imagine T. It does what it does very well. It doesn't play very loud, nor does it play low (it behaves more like a big stand-mount speaker with free stands). It's neither very easy to drive, nor is it imposing in size or build. It's not made of exotic materials, and could not not boast of ultra-extended highs.
What it has going for it is neutrality and resolution in the range that it covers. It provides a very clean and low distortion sound. I'd be hard pressed to name another tower speaker that delivers better linearity in this price range.
Just in case you're wondering, may Imagine T2 na din. 2012 model siya, hindi ko lang alam kung meron na locally. If you look at the driver config, you'd know that it got some technology from the Synchrony line.
(http://www.avguide.com/sites/next-tech-guide/files/Imagine%20T2%20Family.jpg)
PSB spreads their LF drivers widely along the front baffle to reduce the effect of floor and ceiling reflections by taking advantage of PLDs to those surfaces (instead of controlling vertical dispersion, as with a traditional d'appolito array). The lower-mounted woofers roll off sooner to prevent them from affecting the point-source effect at higher frequencies (and preventing the floor reflections from ruining the sound).
Astig at Gwapo ng T2!!!! :o :o :o :o ;D ;D
More muscle to the Imagine's finesse!
Post by: Conan on Feb 20, 2012 at 07:14 AM
Post by: sientobente on Feb 21, 2012 at 04:11 AM
Meron ka na nga eh. Kamusta naman flagship gear mo?
Si Roy demonyohin mo na din. ;)
Hehe hindi ko alam na flagship gear na pala ang Alpha B1s ko :) At si Master Roy pa, afford nun bumili ng Synchrony One at gawing surround speaker lang yun.
What do you think of PSB subs master? particularly the Subseries 5i?
Post by: Conan on Feb 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM
What do you think of PSB subs master? particularly the Subseries 5i?
Go for the Subsonic 6i instead, it's got legitimate output to 20Hz, I tested it with test tones at Watts Hi-Fi. This chart is old so I think the SVS PB12NSD already made improvements since then:
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e127/esthomps/NousaineSubwooferResults-2.jpg)
Post by: sientobente on Feb 22, 2012 at 03:04 AM
Go for the Subsonic 6i instead, it's got legitimate output to 20Hz, I tested it with test tones at Watts Hi-Fi. This chart is old so I think the SVS PB12NSD already made improvements since then:
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e127/esthomps/NousaineSubwooferResults-2.jpg)
ayun, thanks for the info master. nakalimutan ko yung exact model ng sub dun kina sir rex :) and i was able to listen to it using the test tone you you lent him. impressive nga. walang ka-effort effort yung 20Hz.
looking at the table, nice performance vs the pb12nsd. it looks like it's more powerful but the svs can consistently go lower. and yeah, since the new pb12nsd are using sledge amps these figures may change. thanks for this data.
i guess the real advantage the 6i has would be it's excellent pricing vs the svs. mukhang good value for the money siya. plus the aesthetics doesn't hurt either. hopefully it comes in dark cherry! ;D
Post by: beginner on Feb 22, 2012 at 03:55 AM
Post by: Stagea on Feb 22, 2012 at 03:57 AM
Post by: Conan on Feb 22, 2012 at 09:46 AM
Try the HD10 idol... bagay sa big time condo mo... Hehe!
I did a back to back audition with the HD10 and Subsonic 6i. The HD10 has a very weak output at 20Hz compared to a strong output of the 6i. At 30Hz the HD10 has very strong output but so does the 6i. From my limited audition time it seemed that these two subs are just about equally loud with the size advantage going to the HD10 and the 20Hz reproduction capability going to the 6i. The HD10 may play louder than the 6i (based on what I heard during the Hi-Fi show at Dusit), but I did not test this. I was just after the frequency reproduction capabilities of both subs during my time with them.
Post by: Stagea on Feb 22, 2012 at 12:06 PM
ayun, thanks for the info master. nakalimutan ko yung exact model ng sub dun kina sir rex :) and i was able to listen to it using the test tone you you lent him. impressive nga. walang ka-effort effort yung 20Hz.
looking at the table, nice performance vs the pb12nsd. it looks like it's more powerful but the svs can consistently go lower. and yeah, since the new pb12nsd are using sledge amps these figures may change. thanks for this data.
i guess the real advantage the 6i has would be it's excellent pricing vs the svs. mukhang good value for the money siya. plus the aesthetics doesn't hurt either. hopefully it comes in dark cherry! ;D
The 6i appeals to me because of the great bandwidth uniformity (it's flatter above 25Hz) and substantial output (4dB higher on average is not small), while retaining decent extension. It plays louder and flatter than the other pounders from Infinity, Klipsch and Paradigm, while delivering 20Hz output close to the SVS.
Post by: buzzworth on Feb 22, 2012 at 01:08 PM
sir Stagea, nasa magkano ngayon yung PSB 6i sub? Baka matuloy na yung all PSB setup :)
The 6i appeals to me because of the great bandwidth uniformity (it's flatter above 25Hz) and substantial output (4dB higher on average is not small), while retaining decent extension. It plays louder and flatter than the other pounders from Infinity, Klipsch and Paradigm, while delivering 20Hz output close to the SVS.
Post by: otep_32 on Feb 22, 2012 at 01:16 PM
sir Stagea, nasa magkano ngayon yung PSB 6i sub? Baka matuloy na yung all PSB setup :)37k srp nito sir..
Post by: beginner on Feb 22, 2012 at 01:23 PM
Post by: Stagea on Feb 22, 2012 at 02:07 PM
Agree with the 6i perfomance. The most obvious advantage of the hd10 is with the output to footprint ratio. In which case it will not pose a problem for small listening areas.
SubSeries 300 ata pumalit sa SubSeries 6i. Baka mas bagay sa stature ni Master Gerard ang SubSeries 500. ;)
Post by: Conan on Feb 22, 2012 at 03:30 PM
SubSeries 300 ata pumalit sa SubSeries 6i. Baka mas bagay sa stature ni Master Gerard ang SubSeries 500. ;)
At Watts HiFi the subs are still labeled as "Subsonic" which differs from the web site of PSB. Maybe for Asia they are named differently?
Post by: Stagea on Feb 22, 2012 at 03:42 PM
At Watts HiFi the subs are still labeled as "Subsonic" which differs from the web site of PSB. Maybe for Asia they are named differently?
Maybe? I've seen them labeled as Subsonic and as SubSeries online.
Post by: sientobente on Feb 23, 2012 at 04:27 AM
SubSeries 300 ata pumalit sa SubSeries 6i. Baka mas bagay sa stature ni Master Gerard ang SubSeries 500. ;)
Palimos po master para makabili na ako nito ;D Mukha siyang pb13ultra na kulang ng isang port ;D
@Buzzworth
Cash price of the 6i is very attractive. It's competing on the same level of Klipsch RW12D and Polk Audio DSW Pro 660. PM sir Rex/Otep_32 for more details :)
@Beginner
tama idol. gandang sub yan para sa iyong bagong home audio project ;)
Post by: buzzworth on Feb 24, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Post by: sientobente on Feb 25, 2012 at 07:35 PM
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Feb 27, 2012 at 12:31 PM
try to audition it and compare with more mainstream brands. i'm sure you would still be surprised how good the B6 is. probably the best one in it's price level. :)
+1... :)
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Feb 27, 2012 at 12:36 PM
I'm a PSB Speaker Lover too..hehe
Image B6 as Fronts
Image C5 as Center.... :)
Congratz Brader Gerard...heeh :)
Post by: sientobente on Feb 28, 2012 at 05:25 AM
I'm a PSB Speaker Lover too..hehe
Image B6 as Fronts
Image C5 as Center.... :)
Congratz Brader Gerard...heeh :)
Nagbubuo pa master Pau ng system. Hassle kasi sabay sa valentines tapos magbday pa si kumander. Regaluhan ko nalang kaya ito ng PSB Image C5. Hahaha ;D
Post by: jao143 on Feb 28, 2012 at 06:28 AM
Nagbubuo pa master Pau ng system. Hassle kasi sabay sa valentines tapos magbday pa si kumander. Regaluhan ko nalang kaya ito ng PSB Image C5. Hahaha ;D
Sir Gerard, question kamusta ang sq nang PSB compared sa focal? I'm just curious. I Have yet to hear a PSB speaker kase :) yung highs and midbass?
Post by: sientobente on Feb 28, 2012 at 07:40 AM
Sir Gerard, question kamusta ang sq nang PSB compared sa focal? I'm just curious. I Have yet to hear a PSB speaker kase :) yung highs and midbass?
Master Jao, goodmorning :) Naku master ibang level pa rin ang focal vs psb. Lalo na kapag naka beryllium tweets. i'll just compare the entry level focal chorus vs the psb imagine series due to my familiarity with the focal aluminum tweets and my extensive auditioning of the imagine.
for focal, highs are a lot more extended and sweet compared to an imagine t. it has an airy crisp sound which I think is a focal trademark.
sa psb naman, it's more dynamic and has more presence. a bit forward but not aggressive. has a wide soundstage compared to having that focal airy feel.
midbass wise, i haven't listened to a chorus tower yet so i guess this isn't a fair comparison but focal's polyglass drivers are known to have a polite midbass sound. so it's tight without any overhang. for psb, the midbass is strong and pronounced.
;)
Post by: Stagea on Mar 02, 2012 at 03:58 AM
Nagbubuo pa master Pau ng system. Hassle kasi sabay sa valentines tapos magbday pa si kumander. Regaluhan ko nalang kaya ito ng PSB Image C5. Hahaha ;D
Good choice Master Gerard! ;D
I'm a PSB Speaker Lover too..hehe
Image B6 as Fronts
Image C5 as Center.... :)
Surround na lang ang kailangan, set na. ;D
Post by: jao143 on Mar 02, 2012 at 08:10 AM
Master Jao, goodmorning :) Naku master ibang level pa rin ang focal vs psb. Lalo na kapag naka beryllium tweets. i'll just compare the entry level focal chorus vs the psb imagine series due to my familiarity with the focal aluminum tweets and my extensive auditioning of the imagine.
for focal, highs are a lot more extended and sweet compared to an imagine t. it has an airy crisp sound which I think is a focal trademark.
sa psb naman, it's more dynamic and has more presence. a bit forward but not aggressive. has a wide soundstage compared to having that focal airy feel.
midbass wise, i haven't listened to a chorus tower yet so i guess this isn't a fair comparison but focal's polyglass drivers are known to have a polite midbass sound. so it's tight without any overhang. for psb, the midbass is strong and pronounced.
;)
Thank you bro. I'll sir Arn kung pwede kong mapakinggan yung psb setup nya :)
Post by: sientobente on Mar 03, 2012 at 06:58 AM
Good choice Master Gerard! ;D
Kapag ginawa ko yun master, sigurado ihahampas nya sakin yung center speaker ;D
Post by: sientobente on Mar 03, 2012 at 09:38 AM
Thank you bro. I'll sir Arn kung pwede kong mapakinggan yung psb setup nya :)
Naku napaganda nga nun Sir Jao. My dream HT :)
Post by: dvdspike on Mar 13, 2012 at 09:39 PM
37k srp nito sir..
PSB spkrs and NAD do they go together well? For a 326bee which PSB would be suitable? Price and where to buy? I like vocals and classical music tia mga experts!
Post by: Stagea on Mar 14, 2012 at 12:22 AM
PSB spkrs and NAD do they go together well? For a 326bee which PSB would be suitable? Price and where to buy? I like vocals and classical music tia mga experts!
They do. Quoting PSB's Website:
"Our parent company owns a well respected, critically acclaimed line of electronic components called NAD Electronics. NAD offers a wide variety of audio and video components for custom installation, home theater and hi-fi applications. These products offer outstanding performance, value and simplicity while complimenting the line of PSB speakers beautifully."
For the C326BEE, check out the PSB Image series speakers. Remember to listen before you buy.
Post by: sientobente on Mar 14, 2012 at 05:22 AM
PSB spkrs and NAD do they go together well? For a 326bee which PSB would be suitable? Price and where to buy? I like vocals and classical music tia mga experts!
If you are near the makati area, Watts Hifi in Makati Cinema Square carries them. Sobrang bait pa ng mga may-ari nun. They will let you audition almost everything to your contentment. Plus he gives out the best prices pa. You can PM otep_32. ;)
For me the 326bee and psb image b6 works very well together. If want more bass, try their floorstanders. Their Image series are very easy to power. The 326bee is capable enough to power the T6. I even tried it with the Imagine T. The latter combo blew me away. :)
Post by: dvdspike on Mar 14, 2012 at 05:49 AM
If you are near the makati area, Watts Hifi in Makati Cinema Square carries them. Sobrang bait pa ng mga may-ari nun. They will let you audition almost everything to your contentment. Plus he gives out the best prices pa. You can PM otep_32. ;)
For me the 326bee and psb image b6 works very well together. If want more bass, try their floorstanders. Their Image series are very easy to power. The 326bee is capable enough to power the T6. I even tried it with the Imagine T. The latter combo blew me away. :)
Thanks for the info sir mababait po ba sa chicks mga tao sa watt hifi papupuntahin ko sana anak kong kolegiala :)
Post by: sientobente on Mar 14, 2012 at 06:06 AM
Thanks for the info sir mababait po ba sa chicks mga tao sa watt hifi papupuntahin ko sana anak kong kolegiala :)
sakto sir, mas matalas ang pandinig ng mga babae.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_range (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_range)
"There is a difference in sensitivity of hearing between the sexes, with women typically having a higher sensitivity to higher frequencies than men.The vibrations of the ossicular chain displace the basilar fluid in the cochlea, causing the hairs within it, called Stereocilia, to vibrate. Hairs line the cochlea from base to apex, and the part stimulated and the intensity of stimulation gives an indication of the nature of the sound. Information gathered from the hair cells is sent via the auditory nerve for processing in the brain."
if she's into audio, i'm sure she will enjoy her time there :)
Post by: dvdspike on Mar 14, 2012 at 06:36 AM
sakto sir, mas matalas ang pandinig ng mga babae.::) Totoo yan amigo! She heard the Atom 7 and liked it hope the PSB will prove itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_range (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_range)
"There is a difference in sensitivity of hearing between the sexes, with women typically having a higher sensitivity to higher frequencies than men.The vibrations of the ossicular chain displace the basilar fluid in the cochlea, causing the hairs within it, called Stereocilia, to vibrate. Hairs line the cochlea from base to apex, and the part stimulated and the intensity of stimulation gives an indication of the nature of the sound. Information gathered from the hair cells is sent via the auditory nerve for processing in the brain."
if she's into audio, i'm sure she will enjoy her time there :)
Post by: sientobente on Mar 14, 2012 at 06:43 AM
::) Totoo yan amigo! She heard the Atom 7 and liked it hope the PSB will prove itself.
Watts Hifi also carries Paradigm plus many other brands. She can go there and compare to her heart's content :) The 326bee should also be available there, so you don't need to bring your amp anymore to know how the pairing with each speaker would be. :)
Post by: dvdspike on Mar 14, 2012 at 06:25 PM
Watts Hifi also carries Paradigm plus many other brands. She can go there and compare to her heart's content :) The 326bee should also be available there, so you don't need to bring your amp anymore to know how the pairing with each speaker would be. :)
Well I decided on getting the PSB6 Image just one query are the speaker binding posts banana? If they are pin type does anyone know where I can have my speaker cables wired? Thanks for all the tips in helping me arrive at a very sound decision. The watts hifi price was 350 pesos lower, but am gonna spend that much on a taxi going so I just got mine at SNS shang less the traffic of Makati. Yun nga lang ala masyado PR hehe maybe coz I was just plain.
;D
Post by: Carps on Mar 14, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Well I decided on getting the PSB6 Image just one query are the speaker binding posts banana? If they are pin type does anyone know where I can have my speaker cables wired? Thanks for all the tips in helping me arrive at a very sound decision. The watts hifi price was 350 pesos lower, but am gonna spend that much on a taxi going so I just got mine at SNS shang less the traffic of Makati. Yun nga lang ala masyado PR hehe maybe coz I was just plain.
;D
Yes sir kaya banana plugs. You have to remove the plastic cover lang sa mga posts so you can insert the plugs
Post by: sientobente on Mar 15, 2012 at 06:02 AM
Well I decided on getting the PSB6 Image just one query are the speaker binding posts banana? If they are pin type does anyone know where I can have my speaker cables wired? Thanks for all the tips in helping me arrive at a very sound decision. The watts hifi price was 350 pesos lower, but am gonna spend that much on a taxi going so I just got mine at SNS shang less the traffic of Makati. Yun nga lang ala masyado PR hehe maybe coz I was just plain.
;D
Congrats on the B6 Sir Matt! Great choice! I hope you are enjoying those awesome gears right now :)
Post by: dvdspike on Mar 15, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Congrats on the B6 Sir Matt! Great choice! I hope you are enjoying those awesome gears right now :)
Still have to pick them up ala pa stock kahapon. Are the binding posts banana?
Post by: sientobente on Mar 16, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Still have to pick them up ala pa stock kahapon. Are the binding posts banana?
yup. the binding post can accept banana plugs. please share your review once you get it. :)
Post by: metropharm on Mar 18, 2012 at 06:25 AM
Post by: dvdspike on Mar 18, 2012 at 09:43 PM
yup. the binding post can accept banana plugs. please share your review once you get it. :)I finally hooked up the PSB6 with my NAD 326BEE. Well what can I say? ENJOY ;D ;D ;D! Contrary to what others may say these speakers are not bass shy at all. Love it so much for my classical/jazz/vocal music. A perfect match indeed for NAD! Now planning on the PSB 300 subwoofer for movies. Thanks Stagea and sientobente for your valuable advise mabuhay po kayo! :)
Post by: Conan on Mar 18, 2012 at 10:43 PM
I finally hooked up the PSB6 with my NAD 326BEE. Well what can I say? ENJOY ;D ;D ;D! Contrary to what others may say these speakers are not bass shy at all. Love it so much for my classical/jazz/vocal music. A perfect match indeed for NAD! Now planning on the PSB 300 subwoofer for movies. Thanks Stagea and sientobente for your valuable advise mabuhay po kayo! :)
Yup the B6 has pretty decent bass performance! ;D I would save up for the Subsonic 500 though.
Post by: dvdspike on Mar 18, 2012 at 11:42 PM
Yup the B6 has pretty decent bass performance! ;D I would save up for the Subsonic 500 though.
500 must be good but I'm going for the cheaper SS300 which is powered by NAD just the same cguro. :)
Post by: napshell571 on Mar 19, 2012 at 08:57 AM
thank you bro rex a.k.a. otep_32 for d audition yesterday also d audiophile cd's.sayang kulang lang s time hindi ko ntry Psb sub.,hopefully next visit maka2rami n ako n hakot... :)sobra accomodating talaga s watt-hifi nag enjoy rin s bayaw.Ist time ko mka visit s shop yesterday
Boss Mark, humakot ka pala sa Watt Hi-Fi he he, ;D ;D. Ano kaya yun? ::) ::).
Post by: sientobente on Mar 20, 2012 at 09:19 AM
500 must be good but I'm going for the cheaper SS300 which is powered by NAD just the same cguro. :)
Wow that's a nice sub Sir Matt! You may also wanna try looking at the psb 6i, I think this sub is cheaper and can go a lot lower. svs maganda din :)
Post by: mavericks on Mar 22, 2012 at 02:07 PM
or B25 w/ TT REGA 1...ok na kaya yung yamaha 2600 or may igaganda pa pag ibang ampli. ;)
Post by: Stagea on Mar 22, 2012 at 02:37 PM
;) sir question lang , ano compatible na NAD ampli ng Psb T65 kung pang audio..
or B25 w/ TT REGA 1...ok na kaya yung yamaha 2600 or may igaganda pa pag ibang ampli. ;)
Try mo NAD C375BEE kung pwede audition with your speakers. :)
Post by: Carps on Mar 22, 2012 at 05:50 PM
I finally hooked up the PSB6 with my NAD 326BEE. Well what can I say? ENJOY ;D ;D ;D! Contrary to what others may say these speakers are not bass shy at all. Love it so much for my classical/jazz/vocal music. A perfect match indeed for NAD! Now planning on the PSB 300 subwoofer for movies. Thanks Stagea and sientobente for your valuable advise mabuhay po kayo! :)
I also plan to pair my image b6 with the NAD 326. I just wonder if the difference in sound quality will be noticeable if I go for the 356 (I mean is it worth the price difference)
Listening area by the way is small and I don't plan to play it too loud naman.
Hope the PSB owners can help me...
Thanks
Post by: Conan on Mar 22, 2012 at 05:53 PM
I also plan to pair my image b6 with the NAD 326. I just wonder if the difference in sound quality will be noticeable if I go for the 356 (I mean is it worth the price difference)
Listening area by the way is small and I don't plan to play it too loud naman.
Hope the PSB owners can help me...
Thanks
In a small room NAD 326 should do fine.
Post by: Courage on Mar 22, 2012 at 06:21 PM
PSB Image T6 Fronts
PSB Image B6 Surround
PSB Image C5 Center
Post by: Carps on Mar 22, 2012 at 09:16 PM
Post by: sientobente on Mar 23, 2012 at 06:21 AM
Any comments on the setup below if powered with Yamaha Receiver?(http://www.madtomatoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Facebook-Like-Button-big.jpg)
PSB Image T6 Fronts
PSB Image B6 Surround
PSB Image C5 Center
Watts Hifi carries Yamaha master. So you can audition a PSB+Yamaha combo. Ako iniimagine ko maganda ang pairing niyan, since yamaha has some warmth similar to NAD. Plus I consulted Ivanpedia, those are StageA certified gears ;D
Yun lang master, masyado atang malaki ang B6 para maging surround. parang sayang. May smaller model which naman, which is the B5 or the Alpha B1.
@Carp
Master Conan is right, a 326BEE should do. I auditioned both the 326bee and the 356bee tested with 2 different sets of speakers(PSB T5 and Imagine T), sa totoo lang wala akong marinig na difference. Ang naiisip ko lang na scenario is probably the lower model would clip easily on extremely loud volumes.
I think you would feel and hear the difference when you try the impressive NAD 375BEE
Post by: sientobente on Mar 23, 2012 at 06:37 AM
;) sir question lang , ano compatible na NAD ampli ng Psb T65 kung pang audio..
or B25 w/ TT REGA 1...ok na kaya yung yamaha 2600 or may igaganda pa pag ibang ampli. ;)
As what King Master Don Ivan mentioned, maganda nga sir ang pairing ng PSB+NAD. When I first auditioned the T65 paired with the 315BEE, gandang ganda ako. Nung inupgrade sa 325BEE, it sounded a little better and it was the most balanced pairing I ever heard. Call me crazy, I even chose at that time the 325BEE + T65 pairing over a 325BEE + Synchrony. Maybe because the Synchrony wasn't powered well? I don't know but the 325+T65 has always been my benchmark :)
Post by: Courage on Mar 23, 2012 at 05:31 PM
(http://www.madtomatoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Facebook-Like-Button-big.jpg)
Watts Hifi carries Yamaha master. So you can audition a PSB+Yamaha combo. Ako iniimagine ko maganda ang pairing niyan, since yamaha has some warmth similar to NAD. Plus I consulted Ivanpedia, those are StageA certified gears ;D
Yun lang master, masyado atang malaki ang B6 para maging surround. parang sayang. May smaller model which naman, which is the B5 or the Alpha B1.
@Carp
Master Conan is right, a 326BEE should do. I auditioned both the 326bee and the 356bee tested with 2 different sets of speakers(PSB T5 and Imagine T), sa totoo lang wala akong marinig na difference. Ang naiisip ko lang na scenario is probably the lower model would clip easily on extremely loud volumes.
I think you would feel and hear the difference when you try the impressive NAD 375BEE
Thanks Bro, i'll visit Watt Hi fi for an Audition he he he.. Possible upgrade before end of year.. Ipon mode he he he
Post by: sientobente on Mar 24, 2012 at 02:53 PM
Thanks Bro, i'll visit Watt Hi fi for an Audition he he he.. Possible upgrade before end of year.. Ipon mode he he he
If malapit ka master sa antipolo area, you can audition my set kaso jologs ang sub ko ngayon tapos ibang avr din ang gamit ko :D
Post by: Courage on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:59 AM
If malapit ka master sa antipolo area, you can audition my set kaso jologs ang sub ko ngayon tapos ibang avr din ang gamit ko :D
Uyyy nice.. san ka sa Antipolo sir, Marikina lang ako sir..
Post by: Carps on Mar 30, 2012 at 09:33 PM
I've been reading about reviews on 326BEE and i read that it is toned towards the warm side. My question is if I pair it with my Image B6, will I lose detail (or is it the case)?
Will appreciate any comments on this...
Post by: Conan on Mar 30, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Hi sir/s, I need advise again.
I've been reading about reviews on 326BEE and i read that it is toned towards the warm side. My question is if I pair it with my Image B6, will I lose detail (or is it the case)?
Will appreciate any comments on this...
They're a perfect match, the sound will be warm but detailed.
Post by: labuyo888 on Mar 30, 2012 at 10:51 PM
Post by: Conan on Mar 30, 2012 at 10:55 PM
hi mga bros, ask ko lang roughly how much is a new pair of b6 imagine bs speakers?
21 thousand SRP, may discount if cash payment.
Post by: Carps on Mar 31, 2012 at 06:47 AM
They're a perfect match, the sound will be warm but detailed.
Thank you sir Conan. Excited na din ako ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Stagea on Mar 31, 2012 at 07:09 AM
hi mga bros, ask ko lang roughly how much is a new pair of b6 imagine bs speakers?
Conflicting po ata ang question niyo sir. B6 is from the Image series. Ang bookshelves sa Imagine series are Imagine B and Imagine Mini.
Post by: sientobente on Apr 01, 2012 at 01:51 AM
hi mga bros, ask ko lang roughly how much is a new pair of b6 imagine bs speakers?
If it's the Imagine Bs sir, srp is 50k. That's a must hear bookshelf :)
@Courage
Master, ygpm.
Post by: sientobente on Apr 01, 2012 at 02:27 AM
First off, I'd like to commend the Musiland DAC. Night and day difference, running with or without it. The sound became heavier and more pronounced. Details are expressed better with it. Definitely something in my must-have wishlist.
I'm including excerpts(not in verbatim) from some of our multibillionaire audio gurus which I had the pleasure to be in the same room as theirs earlier.
KEF Q7: What was impressive with KEF was the sweetspot was almost everywhere. Unlike regular speakers where the sound changes when you switch to a different position, the KEF doesn't. Was it the tweeter design? Or how it was integrated in the coax? I forgot the explanation of our resident highest-fi guru StageA but you get the point. Those KEFs were excellent.
Monitor Audio RS8: Laid back sounding compared to the 2. Polite. More focused approach. The shop owner mentioned that they tried it with their big-ass tube amp, and said it sounded better paired with that compared to the ss amp we were using.
PSB T6: Got more bass than the two. Sounded more balanced. What I like most about these speakers is, it's very easy to power.
Post by: Stagea on Apr 01, 2012 at 02:51 AM
Post by: sientobente on Apr 01, 2012 at 03:02 AM
Thank you, Master Gerard. That was the KEF iQ70. It actually sounded better with the Musiland 01, in a configuration that you weren't able to hear. It was certainly enjoyable, pleasant and reasonably detailed, if a touch warm. The 01 and the 03 carry different sonic signatures. As with any system, synergy matters more than each individual component. We tested the 01 after you went upstairs.
Thanks for correcting me Master, iQ70 pala. And the one in your gear collection was the iQ90 right? Sayang I wasn't able to listen to the Musiland 01 kasi nagbabayad pa ako ng utang kay sir Rex :D but I'm sure it will be as impressive as the 03 and that description of the 01 makes me really want to audition it. :)
Post by: Stagea on Apr 04, 2012 at 12:51 AM
Post by: Carps on Apr 04, 2012 at 07:33 PM
I know the 326 would be just enough for my Image B6...kaya lang when I had the chance to listen to the Imagine B sa shop, sobrang sarap pakinggan (in other words, as early as now that I am enjoying the image b6, I'm already wishing for the Imagine B...sana may magbenta sa marketplace ;D ;D :D)
Thanks to sir Stagea for your advise
Post by: dvdspike on Apr 04, 2012 at 08:00 PM
Break-in period for my NAD 356...woohoo!!!! I don't know how to describe the sound...I would say makapal and malambing if that's even the right way to describe itWelcome to the club the PSB6 with the NAD is just to good to be true eh? ;D
I know the 326 would be just enough for my Image B6...kaya lang when I had the chance to listen to the Imagine B sa shop, sobrang sarap pakinggan (in other words, as early as now that I am enjoying the image b6, I'm already wishing for the Imagine B...sana may magbenta sa marketplace ;D ;D :D)
Thanks to sir Stagea for your advise
Post by: Carps on Apr 04, 2012 at 09:24 PM
The Imagine series is a whole new level though ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Stagea on Apr 05, 2012 at 02:17 AM
Break-in period for my NAD 356...woohoo!!!! I don't know how to describe the sound...I would say makapal and malambing if that's even the right way to describe it
I know the 326 would be just enough for my Image B6...kaya lang when I had the chance to listen to the Imagine B sa shop, sobrang sarap pakinggan (in other words, as early as now that I am enjoying the image b6, I'm already wishing for the Imagine B...sana may magbenta sa marketplace ;D ;D :D)
Thanks to sir Stagea for your advise
You're welcome, sir Carps. Congrats with your lovely gear. :)
Post by: sientobente on Apr 05, 2012 at 08:52 AM
Break-in period for my NAD 356...woohoo!!!! I don't know how to describe the sound...I would say makapal and malambing if that's even the right way to describe it
I know the 326 would be just enough for my Image B6...kaya lang when I had the chance to listen to the Imagine B sa shop, sobrang sarap pakinggan (in other words, as early as now that I am enjoying the image b6, I'm already wishing for the Imagine B...sana may magbenta sa marketplace ;D ;D :D)
Thanks to sir Stagea for your advise
Congratulations Sir. Ganda nga ng gears niyo :) Wag niyo lang i-audition yung Synchrony One ni Master Idol StageA, baka magiba ang SARS niyo :)
Post by: Stagea on Apr 05, 2012 at 03:23 PM
Congratulations Sir. Ganda nga ng gears niyo :) Wag niyo lang i-audition yung Synchrony One ni Master Idol StageA, baka magiba ang SARS niyo :)
Wag ka magkalat ng malabong chismis Master Gerard, at baka maniwala sila. :-[ Wala nga ako pambili maski Raon boombox eh. :'(
Ikaw diyan ang palaging humahakot ng flagship gear. Sinusubukan mo lang saka tinatapon ang di pumapasa sa lofty standards mo. Sabi mo nga "collect then select." ;D
Post by: Courage on Apr 05, 2012 at 06:14 PM
Thinking of a future upgrade..FS for fronts naman para maiba..
Post by: Stagea on Apr 05, 2012 at 09:59 PM
Musta kaya tumunog ang T6 using a Yamaha receiver?
Thinking of a future upgrade..FS for fronts naman para maiba..
Check mo sa Watt HiFi. They carry both products.
Post by: sientobente on Apr 06, 2012 at 03:25 AM
Wag ka magkalat ng malabong chismis Master Gerard, at baka maniwala sila. :-[ Wala nga ako pambili maski Raon boombox eh. :'(
Ikaw diyan ang palaging humahakot ng flagship gear. Sinusubukan mo lang saka tinatapon ang di pumapasa sa lofty standards mo. Sabi mo nga "collect then select." ;D
Lent ngayon master, bawal magsingungaling :D
@Courage
What I like about Yamaha was, I never heard a setup which was bad powered by a Yammy. StageA also has a Yamaha AVR and a PSB Speaker set ---- true story ;) not sure though if he was able to try them together coz he has so many setups and has different mansions scattered around the metro.
Post by: Courage on Apr 06, 2012 at 03:58 AM
Lent ngayon master, bawal magsingungaling :D
@Courage
What I like about Yamaha was, I never heard a setup which was bad powered by a Yammy. StageA also has a Yamaha AVR and a PSB Speaker set ---- true story ;) not sure though if he was able to try them together coz he has so many setups and has different mansions scattered around the metro.
Thanks brader... bago ko i audition yung Yammy at T6 bisitahin muna kita one of these days...
Post by: sientobente on Apr 06, 2012 at 04:28 AM
Thanks brader... bago ko i audition yung Yammy at T6 bisitahin muna kita one of these days...
Sige Master, PM mo lang ako kung kelan ka punta dito.
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 09, 2012 at 11:32 PM
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 09, 2012 at 11:33 PM
Sa puwede mag audition ng PSB with 5.1 or 7.1 HT for movies? May owner ba ng PSB na naka 5.1 or 7.1 na dating owner ng ibang brand? Parang may bumulong sa akin kanina na maganda ang PSB speaker and yung mga nag palit going PSB eh di na daw nag palit or upgrade. ;D ;D ;D
tama parinig kami hahaha
Post by: Courage on Apr 10, 2012 at 12:19 AM
Sa puwede mag audition ng PSB with 5.1 or 7.1 HT for movies? May owner ba ng PSB na naka 5.1 or 7.1 na dating owner ng ibang brand? Parang may bumulong sa akin kanina na maganda ang PSB speaker and yung mga nag palit going PSB eh di na daw nag palit or upgrade. ;D ;D ;D
Ibig mong sabihin brader may nangkukulam sayo kaya ngayon gusto mo na ding madinig ang PSB???
Grabe naman yun oh... ;D
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 10, 2012 at 12:20 AM
Ibig mong sabihin brader may nangkukulam sayo kaya ngayon gusto mo na ding madinig ang PSB???
Grabe naman yun oh... ;D
basta ung aken hindi gawang kwento
check nyo sa galerry ung maki_02 hehehe
psb un
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 10, 2012 at 12:53 AM
Ibig mong sabihin brader may nangkukulam sayo kaya ngayon gusto mo na ding madinig ang PSB???
Grabe naman yun oh... ;D
Ou brader itago natin sa pangalan na trio mangkukulam. ;D ;D
basta ung aken hindi gawang kwento
check nyo sa galerry ung maki_02 hehehe
psb un
Mukhang may guilty. ;D ;D
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 10, 2012 at 09:57 AM
Musta kaya tumunog ang T6 using a Yamaha receiver?
Thinking of a future upgrade..FS for fronts naman para maiba..
upgrade na ng mamana ko yang rti series mo
Post by: Courage on Apr 10, 2012 at 10:03 AM
upgrade na ng mamana ko yang rti series mo
Ha ha ha.. december ko pa plano ha ha ha.. wala nang funds for this year... Kaya masaya na ako na madinig yang mga speakers na yan sa 21 at masaya na akong makita kayong may bagong gears he he he
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 10, 2012 at 10:09 AM
Ha ha ha.. december ko pa plano ha ha ha.. wala nang funds for this year... Kaya masaya na ako na madinig yang mga speakers na yan sa 21 at masaya na akong makita kayong may bagong gears he he he
kukulamin kita sa 21 lolz
Post by: Courage on Apr 10, 2012 at 06:08 PM
kukulamin kita sa 21 lolz
Ha ha ha di ako tatablan kasi ubos na ang funds ha ha ha...
Pwede ko ding hindi palitan yung RTi, gusto ko mag setup nang Audio setup na FloorStander sa Sala tapos integrated amp, music streamer tapos NAS... wala ako kahit isang CD kaya hindi ako mag dededicated CD player he he he
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 10, 2012 at 06:17 PM
kukulamin kita sa 21 lolz
Ha ha ha di ako tatablan kasi ubos na ang funds ha ha ha...
Pwede ko ding hindi palitan yung RTi, gusto ko mag setup nang Audio setup na FloorStander sa Sala tapos integrated amp, music streamer tapos NAS... wala ako kahit isang CD kaya hindi ako mag dededicated CD player he he he
Haha kukulamin ko kayong dalawa. ;D ;D
Post by: Courage on Apr 10, 2012 at 06:37 PM
Haha kukulamin ko kayong dalawa. ;D ;D
Alam nyo ba na ang gagawin natin sa 21 eh parang kinukulam natin ang ating mga sarili at isat isa ha ha ha....
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 10, 2012 at 07:13 PM
Alam nyo ba na ang gagawin natin sa 21 eh parang kinukulam natin ang ating mga sarili at isat isa ha ha ha....
Ako mas matindi kasi habang kinukulam ko sarili ko dinidiin nyo pa ang kulam. ;D ;D
Post by: mavericks on Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50 PM
Sa puwede mag audition ng PSB with 5.1 or 7.1 HT for movies? May owner ba ng PSB na naka 5.1 or 7.1 na dating owner ng ibang brand? Parang may bumulong sa akin kanina na maganda ang PSB speaker and yung mga nag palit going PSB eh di na daw nag palit or upgrade. ;D ;D ;D
sir try mo tawagan si bro ryan 09228705554, baka may psb pa sila w/ discount ;)
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 10, 2012 at 11:14 PM
sir try mo tawagan si bro ryan 09228705554, baka may psb pa sila w/ discount ;)
bro pa pm naman ng prices ng kuha mo sa psb mo thanks
Post by: joko11 on Apr 10, 2012 at 11:28 PM
bro pa pm naman ng prices ng kuha mo sa psb mo thanksako din ;D
ps.mukang tama si brader jason :D
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 10, 2012 at 11:32 PM
sir try mo tawagan si bro ryan 09228705554, baka may psb pa sila w/ discount ;)
Thanks brader naka PSB ka ba sa HT setup mo for movies? ;D ;D
bro pa pm naman ng prices ng kuha mo sa psb mo thanks
ako din ;D
ps.mukang tama si brader jason :D
Bili na kasi. ;D ;D ;D
Brader pabulong din ako. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: sientobente on Apr 11, 2012 at 06:26 AM
sir try mo tawagan si bro ryan 09228705554, baka may psb pa sila w/ discount ;)
ryan i believe is from hifi plus which is the distributor of psb/paradigm/nad etc. usually they don't compete with their dealers. i asked them recently, they give 10% discount for cash :)
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 11, 2012 at 06:39 AM
ryan i believe is from hifi plus which is the distributor of psb/paradigm/nad etc. usually they don't compete with their dealers. i asked them recently, they give 10% discount for cash :)
how much ung entry level ng psb Fronts and center? thanks
Post by: sientobente on Apr 11, 2012 at 06:48 AM
how much ung entry level ng psb Fronts and center? thanks
PM'd you Sir. The Alpha line is their entry level speakers that doesn't sound entry level :) It also won Stereophile's budget product of the year among it's many other recognition.
http://www.psbspeakers.com/articles/Stereophile-Product-of-the-Year
Post by: mavericks on Apr 11, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Thanks brader naka PSB ka ba sa HT setup mo for movies? ;D ;D
Bili na kasi. ;D ;D ;D
Brader pabulong din ako. ;D ;D ;D
yes sir psb ht / audio ko very, very,at very satisfied, lalo na kung t65 kunin mo
sa audio kakakuha ko lng ng para 9 v6 with big discount din sa kanya, free delivery pa :D
@ bro raider
1 1/2years n psb ko nakalimutan ko na discount binigay nya sken :)
Post by: Courage on Apr 11, 2012 at 01:44 PM
PM'd you Sir. The Alpha line is their entry level speakers that doesn't sound entry level :) It also won Stereophile's budget product of the year among it's many other recognition.
http://www.psbspeakers.com/articles/Stereophile-Product-of-the-Year
Brader, cant wait to hear your T6... nag aabang lang ako nang free sched..
Post by: sientobente on Apr 12, 2012 at 08:32 AM
yes sir psb ht / audio ko very, very,at very satisfied, lalo na kung t65 kunin mo
sa audio kakakuha ko lng ng para 9 v6 with big discount din sa kanya, free delivery pa :D
@ bro raider
1 1/2years n psb ko nakalimutan ko na discount binigay nya sken :)
nice gears sir! dyan ako nainlove sa psb, sa t65 :)
@Courage
PM lang kayo master kung kelan kayo dadalaw para maihanda ko na ang shanty namin dito :)
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 12, 2012 at 10:20 AM
Post by: joko11 on Apr 12, 2012 at 10:44 AM
Makapag browse nga ng PSB speaker mamaya. ;D ;D ;Dyan ka na naman kukulamin mo sarili mo
Post by: mavericks on Apr 12, 2012 at 12:31 PM
nice gears sir! dyan ako nainlove sa psb, sa t65 :)
@Courage
PM lang kayo master kung kelan kayo dadalaw para maihanda ko na ang shanty namin dito :)
:) oo nga bro, binibili nga eto saken kaso di ko mabitawan, wala na daw stock na t65 matagal na, t45 na lng
kahit open yung salas ko nasa 3rd floor pa ko naririnig pa din sa labas, napupuno kasi , wala pa kung sub nyan ;)
Post by: Carps on Apr 12, 2012 at 09:40 PM
To be positioned about 5 feet apart with near-field listening position around 6 feet away. By the way, if it will be paired with NAD 356 integrated amp, will it be too much considering the recommended power handling of the mini is 80 watts?
Thanks in advance...
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 12, 2012 at 09:51 PM
yan ka na naman kukulamin mo sarili mo
Nag check lang ng mga brand and features ng mga ikinukulama niyo sa akin. ;D ;D
:) oo nga bro, binibili nga eto saken kaso di ko mabitawan, wala na daw stock na t65 matagal na, t45 na lng
kahit open yung salas ko nasa 3rd floor pa ko naririnig pa din sa labas, napupuno kasi , wala pa kung sub nyan ;)
Mukhang maganda nga bili na brader jayson. ;D ;D
Post by: Conan on Apr 12, 2012 at 11:30 PM
Guys, any personal experience/comments on the PSB Imagine Mini? Would appreciate any inputs.
To be positioned about 5 feet apart with near-field listening position around 6 feet away. By the way, if it will be paired with NAD 356 integrated amp, will it be too much considering the recommended power handling of the mini is 80 watts?
Thanks in advance...
I was impressed with the sound of the Imagine Mini at the last Hi-Fi show at Dusit. Of course due to the small size, satisfying bass would be its shortcoming. It would need to be paired with a sub or for that matter just go for a bigger bookshelf speaker with decent bass performance. By the way I don't consider near-field listening to be 6 feet away though (this is more like a normal listening position) for me near-field means PC speakers about a foot or less away from me.
Post by: Carps on Apr 12, 2012 at 11:54 PM
I am putting up a 2-channel set-up and I've been listening to other systems para naman iba pero I can't seem to find anything like the sound of PSB's.
I actually want the Imagine B but I saw that there is a mini series, hehe...and the reviews in the net were positive. I think I heard this at the HiFi show but I wasn't really paying attention then as I was looking for other stuff at that time
I hope it can handle an 80 watt amp (it's recommended power handling is 10-80 watts)
Post by: Stagea on Apr 13, 2012 at 01:13 AM
Guys, any personal experience/comments on the PSB Imagine Mini? Would appreciate any inputs.
To be positioned about 5 feet apart with near-field listening position around 6 feet away. By the way, if it will be paired with NAD 356 integrated amp, will it be too much considering the recommended power handling of the mini is 80 watts?
Thanks in advance...
It won't have any problem with the C356BEE. You control the volume knob anyway.
Post by: sientobente on Apr 13, 2012 at 07:28 AM
:) oo nga bro, binibili nga eto saken kaso di ko mabitawan, wala na daw stock na t65 matagal na, t45 na lng
kahit open yung salas ko nasa 3rd floor pa ko naririnig pa din sa labas, napupuno kasi , wala pa kung sub nyan ;)
at yan din sir yung higanteng center right? nung nakita ko yan in person kala ko floorstander na nakahiga sa laki :)
@StageA
Master, how does higher end CAs like 650a & 740a sound with PSB?
Post by: mavericks on Apr 13, 2012 at 05:34 PM
at yan din sir yung higanteng center right? nung nakita ko yan in person kala ko floorstander na nakahiga sa laki :)
@StageA
Master, how does higher end CAs like 650a & 740a sound with PSB?
yes bro, psb c60 malaki...... at malayong malaki at mabigat (weight) yung t65 compare sa para m9 v6 ko
Post by: Stagea on Apr 13, 2012 at 05:35 PM
@StageA
Master, how does higher end CAs like 650a & 740a sound with PSB?
Better ask Razel na lang, Master. Siya ang meron ng mga ganyan.
Post by: sientobente on Apr 15, 2012 at 11:52 PM
Better ask Razel na lang, Master. Siya ang meron ng mga ganyan.
oo nga pala meron din ganito si master raz.
Post by: otep_32 on Apr 18, 2012 at 03:01 PM
Guys, any personal experience/comments on the PSB Imagine Mini? Would appreciate any inputs.Hi Sir,PSB Imagine mini is now available in Watts-Hifi MCS.please visit our shop for audition.thank you. ;)
To be positioned about 5 feet apart with near-field listening position around 6 feet away. By the way, if it will be paired with NAD 356 integrated amp, will it be too much considering the recommended power handling of the mini is 80 watts?
Thanks in advance...
Post by: Carps on Apr 18, 2012 at 09:47 PM
Post by: sientobente on Apr 21, 2012 at 08:20 PM
Guys, any personal experience/comments on the PSB Imagine Mini? Would appreciate any inputs.
To be positioned about 5 feet apart with near-field listening position around 6 feet away. By the way, if it will be paired with NAD 356 integrated amp, will it be too much considering the recommended power handling of the mini is 80 watts?
Thanks in advance...
Listened to the Imagine Mini earlier. What can I say? IMPRESSIVE! It's so small. Just as big as an Image B4 but has a bit more depth. It was powered by the 356BEE and the people in the listening room thought it was those PSB floorstanders being demoed. Bass was freaking awesome for it's size. Highs have that sweet sounding sibilance. Then it gives you enough punch to fake you into thinking the sound was coming from bigger bookshelves. Try it out @ Watts Hifi Makati ;)
Post by: Courage on Apr 21, 2012 at 08:28 PM
Listened to the Imagine Mini earlier. What can I say? IMPRESSIVE! It's so small. Just as big as an Image B4 but has a bit more depth. It was powered by the 356BEE and the people in the listening room thought it was those PSB floorstanders being demoed. Bass was freaking awesome for it's size. Highs have that sweet sounding sibilance. Then it gives you enough punch to fake you into thinking the sound was coming from bigger bookshelves. Try it out @ Watts Hifi Makati ;)
Brader na compare mo ba Imagine T vs Image T6?
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 21, 2012 at 08:30 PM
Brader na compare mo ba Imagine T vs Image T6?
huli ka....PSB mode,,, lurker mode ako hahaha
Post by: sientobente on Apr 21, 2012 at 08:42 PM
But if you are more into HT, the T6 is a great choice too. Yung pinakagusto ko lang sa T6 is, on a dedicated audio setting, it has enough bass where you get to the point that you won't need a sub anymore for your music. Plus the T6 isn't that hard to drive vs the Imagine T. Tried the T6 with the diminutive Dared MP5 tube amp(13wpc) and it sings!
Post by: Courage on Apr 21, 2012 at 08:44 PM
huli ka....PSB mode,,, lurker mode ako hahaha
Ha ha ha.. nag tatanong lang ha ha ha
Post by: sientobente on Apr 22, 2012 at 07:05 AM
Will do sir. Medyo malayo lang pero I'll make time for that ;D
Ganda pala doc ng iyong upgrade plans! :)
Post by: Carps on Apr 22, 2012 at 08:50 PM
Ganda pala doc ng iyong upgrade plans! :)
Hehe, right now pangarap pa lang muna. Encountered a little hickup with my current set-up kaya naisip ko din try benta yung center...hehe...pero pag ok na ulit I might withdraw it din...for now, ini-Imagine ko lang muna ang Imagine series ;D ;D ;D
Post by: sientobente on Apr 26, 2012 at 07:26 AM
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGOv1b1drCeHKpvcBcIVcLEWlR2agP_7EdV76DZnc5QbjBBZo_iA)
A very musical sub. Very precise and can run really deep. I was surprised that the sound was coming from a ported sub like these. It has enough power to run your HT system. Watched transformers: dark of the moon using a single sub setup and you'll never find these lacking. Switched to audio listening, I could have sworn it was as accurate sounding as a midbass. Plus seeing that NAD-made amplifier at the back got me all the more excited :) How I wish these come in Dark Cherry :D SRP was 30k.
Post by: 1great on May 06, 2012 at 07:32 PM
Post by: sientobente on May 12, 2012 at 10:21 AM
You should hear a Subseries 300 it is not as punchy as a Subseries/Subsonic 6i but goes a little bit deeper. ;D Perfect for those who want "gapang" bass. :)
I'm actually intrigued by what the subseries 300 can offer since it has the same price as the 6i. The 6i specs though are very impressive where it can go 20hz easy.
Post by: 1great on May 13, 2012 at 06:45 PM
As I posted earlier the 300 goes a little bit deeper but the 6i is punchier.
The 300 is using NAD designed amp while the 6i has a BASH amp.
300 has 300 Watts, 425 Watts, 850 Watts (Continuous, Dynamic, Peak Power) while 6i has 225 Watts, 325 Watts, 650 Watts.
For me I would get the 300 for the same price and even if higher by 5%.
Try both as it could be used at the same time and decide for yourself. :)
Post by: sientobente on May 26, 2012 at 05:00 AM
I think it will depend on your preference. The 300 is smaller than the 6i if you care about the size and also lighter by 1.4 kgs. If you view it side by side you would think that the 300 is just a 10 or 8 incher sub.
As I posted earlier the 300 goes a little bit deeper but the 6i is punchier.
The 300 is using NAD designed amp while the 6i has a BASH amp.
300 has 300 Watts, 425 Watts, 850 Watts (Continuous, Dynamic, Peak Power) while 6i has 225 Watts, 325 Watts, 650 Watts.
For me I would get the 300 for the same price and even if higher by 5%.
Try both as it could be used at the same time and decide for yourself. :)
Time to bring my test tones in What Hifi to see how the 300 performs ;)
Post by: Conan on May 26, 2012 at 09:36 AM
I think it will depend on your preference. The 300 is smaller than the 6i if you care about the size and also lighter by 1.4 kgs. If you view it side by side you would think that the 300 is just a 10 or 8 incher sub.
As I posted earlier the 300 goes a little bit deeper but the 6i is punchier.
The 300 is using NAD designed amp while the 6i has a BASH amp.
300 has 300 Watts, 425 Watts, 850 Watts (Continuous, Dynamic, Peak Power) while 6i has 225 Watts, 325 Watts, 650 Watts.
For me I would get the 300 for the same price and even if higher by 5%.
Try both as it could be used at the same time and decide for yourself. :)
Do you have any measurements that show that the 300 goes deeper than the 6i?
Post by: sientobente on May 27, 2012 at 03:16 PM
I believe the 6i goes deeper than the 300 based on specs alone. The new PSB subs tend to be more for music because of it's tightness and accuracy. I'm planning to run this with the test tones you provided Rex to see if the specs were just underrated. I'll post my feedback as soon as I have it :)
Post by: Conan on May 27, 2012 at 05:37 PM
Master Conan,
I believe the 6i goes deeper than the 300 based on specs alone. The new PSB subs tend to be more for music because of it's tightness and accuracy. I'm planning to run this with the test tones you provided Rex to see if the specs were just underrated. I'll post my feedback as soon as I have it :)
Yup based on the smaller enclosure I have doubts that the 300 can match the 6i. Does Rex already have the 300?
Post by: sientobente on May 29, 2012 at 06:32 AM
Post by: sientobente on May 30, 2012 at 07:47 AM
Post by: Conan on May 30, 2012 at 04:08 PM
Rex just told me that the 300 is now available for demo @ what hifi mcs ;)
How is the price compared to the 6i?
Post by: praktikal on May 30, 2012 at 04:11 PM
Post by: sientobente on May 30, 2012 at 04:23 PM
How is the price compared to the 6i?
The 300's srp is 41k.
@praktikal
master, both ports on my t6 are just straight ports.
Post by: praktikal on May 30, 2012 at 04:35 PM
@praktikal
master, both ports on my t6 are just straight ports.
first time ko lang kasi makakita ng ganung port sa speaker. :-[
Post by: sientobente on May 30, 2012 at 04:37 PM
first time ko lang kasi makakita ng ganung port sa speaker. :-[
baka mini sub sya master kaya naka L-port :D
Post by: praktikal on May 30, 2012 at 04:41 PM
baka mini sub sya master kaya naka L-port :D
naloko na! hahaha!
Post by: Stagea on May 31, 2012 at 02:24 AM
naloko na! hahaha!
Small bass-reflex enclosures need a longer port for the same tuning frequency kung malaki ang cross-section ng port. That's just the basic physics of it. :) Kaya kung smaller to midsized bookshelf speaker na mababa ang tuning pero malaki ang port cross-section, chances are nakabend yung port nyan sa loob.
Post by: sientobente on Jun 03, 2012 at 06:49 PM
Yup based on the smaller enclosure I have doubts that the 300 can match the 6i. Does Rex already have the 300?
Got to listen to a fresh out-of-the-box 300. Size wise it's almost as big as the 6i. So I tried to use it for movies first, really can't find any difference between the two. Now came the test tones. 20Hz, the 6i definitely has more power around this area. The glass windows and doors of What Hifi were shaking. While on the 300, you barely feel anything on 20hz but the sub excursion was already going mad. Maybe 2 of these can equal the 6i's prowess on 20Hz? Then i tried 30hz on both subs. This is the area where the 300 excelled and kicked the 6i's @ss. It was louder and better defined. Haven't gotten much of a time to test the 2 for music though, maybe on my next visit :)
Post by: Conan on Jun 03, 2012 at 09:47 PM
Got to listen to a fresh out-of-the-box 300. Size wise it's almost as big as the 6i. So I tried to use it for movies first, really can't find any difference between the two. Now came the test tones. 20Hz, the 6i definitely has more power around this area. The glass windows and doors of What Hifi were shaking. While on the 300, you barely feel anything on 20hz but the sub excursion was already going mad. Maybe 2 of these can equal the 6i's prowess on 20Hz? Then i tried 30hz on both subs. This is the area where the 300 excelled and kicked the 6i's @ss. It was louder and better defined. Haven't gotten much of a time to test the 2 for music though, maybe on my next visit :)
Thanks for the review! ;D
Post by: Courage on Jul 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Post by: sientobente on Jul 11, 2012 at 01:03 PM
Anybody here paired the Image T6, C5 and B6 with a Yamaha Receiver?
What Hifi has a Yamaha 771 + T6, C5 and T5(for surrounds :o ) setup in their showroom. The AVR was fresh out of the box, hardly configured anything in YPAO, but the special effects of the surround system were accurately amazing. As I recall, the yammy tends to sound warm but you wouldn't believe it's pairing with the C5. Vocals were crystal clear and precise. At one point, we forgot to turn the sub on, I could have sworn a sub was present with all the explosive effects from the movie that were playing.
I'm sure results would even be better with your highend avr :)
Post by: Courage on Jul 11, 2012 at 01:47 PM
What Hifi has a Yamaha 771 + T6, C5 and T5(for surrounds :o ) setup in their showroom. The AVR was fresh out of the box, hardly configured anything in YPAO, but the special effects of the surround system were accurately amazing. As I recall, the yammy tends to sound warm but you wouldn't believe it's pairing with the C5. Vocals were crystal clear and precise. At one point, we forgot to turn the sub on, I could have sworn a sub was present with all the explosive effects from the movie that were playing.
I'm sure results would even be better with your highend avr :)
Wow really.. Thanks for the short impression he he he... Yan tuloy nangangati akong pumanta dun ha ha ha ha....
If in case mag upgrade ako nang speakers can i put my blame on you bro? ha ha ha... At least tell my wife that its your fault he he he.... para di ako masyadong masaktan... Just kidding he he he...
Anyway seriously nangangati tuloy akong pumunta dun....he he he...
Post by: sientobente on Jul 11, 2012 at 03:04 PM
Post by: Courage on Jul 11, 2012 at 04:43 PM
Hahaha! ;D Try niyo dun master, napabilib nga ako sa yamaha + psb combo and wanted that 771 really bad kaso lie low muna ako kasi nabigyan na ako ng uppercut ni kumander dahil sa mga luho ;D maganda dun kina rex, you can try other brands as well like paradigm, b&w, monitor audio etc. which is on the same price range so you can compare.
Thanks bro... I PM'ed na sir Otep.. he said aayusin nya daw for me.. Baka this Friday mag visit ako dun... he he he...
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 11, 2012 at 06:13 PM
Thanks bro... I PM'ed na sir Otep.. he said aayusin nya daw for me.. Baka this Friday mag visit ako dun... he he he...
sama ako hehehe....
Post by: Courage on Jul 11, 2012 at 06:35 PM
sama ako hehehe....
Oo ba... Tingnan ko muna what time.. siguro after lunch or something...
Post by: ryan750 on Jul 11, 2012 at 06:42 PM
Post by: joko11 on Jul 11, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Oo ba... Tingnan ko muna what time.. siguro after lunch or something...jayson at derick kelan sama ako dyan.what time kayo punta MCS?
Post by: Courage on Jul 12, 2012 at 12:28 AM
jayson at derick kelan sama ako dyan.what time kayo punta MCS?
I'm planning on Friday.. Maybe after lunch kasi naka leave ako nun he he he... Yun lang available ko...
Post by: joko11 on Jul 12, 2012 at 01:06 AM
I'm planning on Friday.. Maybe after lunch kasi naka leave ako nun he he he... Yun lang available ko...legit VL ba to or awol? ;D
Post by: Courage on Jul 12, 2012 at 01:49 AM
legit VL ba to or awol? ;D
Oi oi oi wag nyo ako igaya sa inyo mga adik he he he
Compensatory Leave to meaning... i earned extra leave because nag exceed ako nang 9 hours sa work.. Wala kasi ako overtime kaya Compensatory leave ang available sa akin... Everytime na mag exceed ako i can add those excess until maka 9 hours ako then pwede ko gamitin para sa CL he he he
Post by: sientobente on Jul 13, 2012 at 08:38 PM
Oi oi oi wag nyo ako igaya sa inyo mga adik he he he
Compensatory Leave to meaning... i earned extra leave because nag exceed ako nang 9 hours sa work.. Wala kasi ako overtime kaya Compensatory leave ang available sa akin... Everytime na mag exceed ako i can add those excess until maka 9 hours ako then pwede ko gamitin para sa CL he he he
kamusta master ang pagaudition ng gamit? mukhang marami ata tayong hinakot today :)
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jul 15, 2012 at 08:53 AM
Nandito pala ang mga PSB Lovers...hehe
Muzta na naka T6 Bro Gerrard... :)
Cguro after 3yrs of ipon mode makakabili na rin ako nyan..hehe
regards sa lahat!!!
cheers!
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 15, 2012 at 02:40 PM
im going to use it for pc audio kaya sana medyo maliit and sub na din
Post by: Stagea on Jul 15, 2012 at 03:00 PM
hi guys ano marerecommend niyo na psb bookshelf that would match well with nad c316bee?
im going to use it for pc audio kaya sana medyo maliit and sub na din
PSB Image B5 or B4 + PSB Subseries 200 or 125.
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 15, 2012 at 03:06 PM
PSB Image B6/B5/B4 + Subseries 200 or 125.
thanks brader i'll check the reviews
Post by: Courage on Jul 15, 2012 at 03:08 PM
Nandito pala ang mga PSB Lovers...hehe
Muzta na naka T6 Bro Gerrard... :)
Cguro after 3yrs of ipon mode makakabili na rin ako nyan..hehe
regards sa lahat!!!
cheers!
Sir Pau_Da_Mann, nice meeting you last Friday.......Sayang nagmamadali ka ata that time sana naka pag kewntuhan pa tayo....
Post by: Stagea on Jul 15, 2012 at 03:08 PM
thanks brader i'll check the reviews
Depending on your room and placement, you may get some bloat with the B6 + SubSeries pairing. Kung maliit yung room or malapit yung speakers sa wall, consider yung B5 or B4. Mas madali i-integrate yung B5 sa sub dahil mas maaga ang natural rolloff kesa sa B6.
Pero kung pang gaming or movies mo na yung PC ang maghandle ng crossover, B6 might be better.
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 15, 2012 at 03:44 PM
Depending on your room and placement, you may get some bloat with the B6 + SubSeries pairing. Kung maliit yung room or malapit yung speakers sa wall, consider yung B5 or B4. Mas madali i-integrate yung B5 sa sub dahil mas maaga ang natural rolloff kesa sa B6.
Pero kung pang gaming or movies mo na yung PC ang maghandle ng crossover, B6 might be better.
malapit sa nga sa wall, i'll use it 80% music and 20% gaming
di ba bright ang b5? im also considering b&w 686 which one is better
wala palang controls ung SubSeries 200
(http://www.psbspeakers.com/img/img.php?120704123100-SubSeries_200_Rear_Black.jpg/900)
Post by: Stagea on Jul 15, 2012 at 03:54 PM
malapit sa nga sa wall, i'll use it 80% music and 20% gaming
di ba bright ang b5? im also considering b&w 686 which one is better
I don't find it bright. Listen to it and gauge for yourself.
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jul 15, 2012 at 04:27 PM
Sir Pau_Da_Mann, nice meeting you last Friday.......Sayang nagmamadali ka ata that time sana naka pag kewntuhan pa tayo....
oo bro nagmamdali ako susundo pa kc ako sa anak ko...hehe
nice meeting you din...pati kay derrick...
anyways marami pa namng time malapit lng ako sa MCS...tpos malapit din ako sa inyo...hehe
kaya sa tingin ko matutuloy yung pag kopya ko ng mga matitindi mong flacs..hehe
sagot ko na meryenda.... :)
thanks in advance...
regards bro and god bless... :)
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 15, 2012 at 06:41 PM
I don't find it bright. Listen to it and gauge for yourself.
thanks brader sige iaudition ko
Post by: sientobente on Jul 15, 2012 at 07:54 PM
Nandito pala ang mga PSB Lovers...hehe
Muzta na naka T6 Bro Gerrard... :)
Cguro after 3yrs of ipon mode makakabili na rin ako nyan..hehe
regards sa lahat!!!
cheers!
I'm sure Synchrony yang pinagiipunan mo master pau :)
Post by: Courage on Jul 15, 2012 at 08:16 PM
I'm sure Synchrony yang pinagiipunan mo master pau :)
Grabe yang Synchrony na yan ha... Out of curiosity pinakinggan namin ni Derick... Ayun speechless kami he he he...
Post by: Stagea on Jul 16, 2012 at 03:41 AM
wala palang controls ung SubSeries 200
Nasa harap ang controls niya.
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 16, 2012 at 07:03 AM
Nasa harap ang controls niya.
ah oo nga :D :D
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jul 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM
I'm sure Synchrony yang pinagiipunan mo master pau :)
lalong malabo yung synchrony Brader Gerard yung image T6 nga hnd kaya eh...hehe
makiki-dinig na lang ako sa mga setup nyo ni Brader Jayson malapit lang namn ako sa inyong dalawa eh...hehe
congratz and cheers mga Braders... :)
Post by: Courage on Jul 16, 2012 at 03:49 PM
lalong malabo yung synchrony Brader Gerard yung image T6 nga hnd kaya eh...hehe
makiki-dinig na lang ako sa mga setup nyo ni Brader Jayson malapit lang namn ako sa inyong dalawa eh...hehe
congratz and cheers mga Braders... :)
Yang si sientobente isa sa mga nang kulam sa akin sa T6.. pero tama lahat nang sinabi nya tungkol sa speakers....
Brader Pau, pag next weekend di ako natuloy sa Subic pwede ka punta sa bahay para sa mga files he he he
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jul 16, 2012 at 04:56 PM
Yang si sientobente isa sa mga nang kulam sa akin sa T6.. pero tama lahat nang sinabi nya tungkol sa speakers....
Brader Pau, pag next weekend di ako natuloy sa Subic pwede ka punta sa bahay para sa mga files he he he
naku! brader maraming maraming salamat.... :)
ihahanda ko na yung mga para-pernalyas natin...hehe
cheers!!!
Post by: Courage on Jul 16, 2012 at 05:10 PM
naku! brader maraming maraming salamat.... :)
ihahanda ko na yung mga para-pernalyas natin...hehe
cheers!!!
He he he... basta PM kita before mag weekend...
Post by: sientobente on Jul 16, 2012 at 05:33 PM
Yang si sientobente isa sa mga nang kulam sa akin sa T6.. pero tama lahat nang sinabi nya tungkol sa speakers....
Brader Pau, pag next weekend di ako natuloy sa Subic pwede ka punta sa bahay para sa mga files he he he
Uy Congrats Master Jason on your new set :) Kamusta pairing with the aventage?
Post by: Courage on Jul 16, 2012 at 05:40 PM
Uy Congrats Master Jason on your new set :) Kamusta pairing with the aventage?
I'm lovin every minute of it... Itong office lang talaga nag papahiwalay sa aking pakikinig he he he... pero panalo bro... Thanks bro.. kasi isa ka sa mga kumulam sa akin he he he.... I'm so happy right now...
Eto bagong kulam.. Narinig ko pa sya na nakakabit sa
NAD C 165BEE Strereo Pre Amp
NAD C 275BEE Stereo Amp
NAD C 565BEE CD Player
REGA DAC
Napaiyak ako ha ha ha ha... Langyang Raider kasi yan sabi ko wag na namin ikabit sa NAD.. kaya ayun....Dream Audio Setup tuloy he he he
Post by: sientobente on Jul 16, 2012 at 05:59 PM
Post by: Courage on Jul 16, 2012 at 06:13 PM
Wow nakasetup yung separates ni xerex(sir rex) sa mcs? must hear nga yan. kagandahan sa T6 natin master, madali siyang i-drive. Masaya na yung T6 ko just using a 326BEE. ;)
Grabe brader ang ganda nang combination nang NAD at PSB... And i know why kung bat ka masaya sa current combination mo he he he... Panalo talaga NAD at PSB.. mahal nga lang talaga nang NAD...
Post by: Stagea on Jul 17, 2012 at 01:07 AM
Eto bagong kulam.. Narinig ko pa sya na nakakabit sa
NAD C 165BEE Strereo Pre Amp
NAD C 275BEE Stereo Amp
NAD C 565BEE CD Player
REGA DAC
Napaiyak ako ha ha ha ha... Langyang Raider kasi yan sabi ko wag na namin ikabit sa NAD.. kaya ayun....Dream Audio Setup tuloy he he he
Maski yung C375BEE at C565BEE lang maayos na yan. Essentially C165BEE and C275BEE in one package yung C375BEE with some changes lang. The C565BEE can work as a DAC kung may ibang sources ka pa.
Medyo mas madilim lang ng konti ang character ng C165/C275/C375 kesa sa C316/C326/C356. Mas gusto ko sa Imagine at Synchrony yung mga former models, pero bagay sa Image yung mga latter models.
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 06:41 AM
Maski yung C375BEE at C565BEE lang maayos na yan. Essentially C165BEE and C275BEE in one package yung C375BEE with some changes lang. The C565BEE can work as a DAC kung may ibang sources ka pa.
Medyo mas madilim lang ng konti ang character ng C165/C275/C375 kesa sa C316/C326/C356. Mas gusto ko sa Imagine at Synchrony yung mga former models, pero bagay sa Image yung mga latter models.
Thanks for your impression sir Stagea :). I make sure i read your impression before i purchase any equipment, so basically you helped in the kulam process he he he..
Post by: Stagea on Jul 17, 2012 at 08:03 AM
C375BEE
(http://hifivietnam.com/home/images/stories/thang04-2010/hfc325.nad.375beeanno-420-90.jpg)
C356BEE
(http://www.hifi.nl/gfx/nad356_chris1_081210.jpg)
C326BEE
(http://big54.ru/published/publicdata/A229541/attachments/SC/products_pictures/C326BEE(4)_enl.jpg)
C316BEE
(http://www.audio160.com/news/2011/image/3/2011033017021.jpg)
As you can see, dikit dikit yung 316, 326 at 356. Big step up yung 375 from the lower models. Even NAD says na mas malapit siya sa M3 kesa sa 356/355.
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 09:28 AM
Malayo din kasi ang spec at build ng C375BEE versus lower models, kaya siya pinakasulit for me sa NAD product line. Good fundamentals for the price point. Above it kasi madami nang ibang options.
C375BEE
(http://hifivietnam.com/home/images/stories/thang04-2010/hfc325.nad.375beeanno-420-90.jpg)
C356BEE
(http://www.hifi.nl/gfx/nad356_chris1_081210.jpg)
C326BEE
(http://big54.ru/published/publicdata/A229541/attachments/SC/products_pictures/C326BEE(4)_enl.jpg)
C316BEE
(http://www.audio160.com/news/2011/image/3/2011033017021.jpg)
As you can see, dikit dikit yung 316, 326 at 356. Big step up yung 375 from the lower models. Even NAD says na mas malapit siya sa M3 kesa sa 356/355.
Wow.. oo nga noh... Have you heard the T6 with 375?
Post by: Stagea on Jul 17, 2012 at 10:37 AM
Wow.. oo nga noh... Have you heard the T6 with 375?
Yup. A bit on the warm side. Most likely dahil voiced yung T6 for the lower NADs (316/326/356). Pero doable pa din, basta tama pagka-mix and match. :)
Listen to it and see kung okay sayo. Di naman sya ganun ka-dark, kaya madali pang habulin.
Post by: sientobente on Jul 17, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Thanks for your impression sir Stagea :). I make sure i read your impression before i purchase any equipment, so basically you helped in the kulam process he he he..
Try niyo Master yung Musiland DAC, having the equalizer adjustment on the software is amazing. It enables you to tune the sound to your liking :)
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Try niyo Master yung Musiland DAC, having the equalizer adjustment on the software is amazing. It enables you to tune the sound to your liking :)
Eto ba yan bro?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSILAND-MD10-Stereo-Audio-Decoder-DAC-24Bit-192KHz-/370469908111?pt=US_Internet_Media_Streamers&hash=item5641ba2e8f
Post by: Stagea on Jul 17, 2012 at 01:00 PM
Eto ba yan bro?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSILAND-MD10-Stereo-Audio-Decoder-DAC-24Bit-192KHz-/370469908111?pt=US_Internet_Media_Streamers&hash=item5641ba2e8f
Baka ito tinutukoy ni Master Sientobente.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-NEW-Musiland-MD30-Stereo-DAC-Headphone-AMP-32-192-/120712950940#ht_4491wt_1037 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-NEW-Musiland-MD30-Stereo-DAC-Headphone-AMP-32-192-/120712950940#ht_4491wt_1037)
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 01:02 PM
Baka ito tinutukoy ni Master Sientobente.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-NEW-Musiland-MD30-Stereo-DAC-Headphone-AMP-32-192-/120712950940#ht_4491wt_1037 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-NEW-Musiland-MD30-Stereo-DAC-Headphone-AMP-32-192-/120712950940#ht_4491wt_1037)
ANg mahal.. whats the difference dun sa na post ko sir?
Post by: Stagea on Jul 17, 2012 at 01:06 PM
ANg mahal.. whats the difference dun sa na post ko sir?
Alam mo naman si Master Sientobente, walang murang gamit yan. Better internals and features, essentially.
We also distribute yung PC-based models locally (Musiland Monitor series), kaya meron sa Watt Hifi, MLY at Hyper Audio.
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 02:14 PM
Alam mo naman si Master Sientobente, walang murang gamit yan. Better internals and features, essentially.
We also distribute yung PC-based models locally (Musiland Monitor series), kaya meron sa Watt Hifi, MLY at Hyper Audio.
What i experienced there is the Rega DAC which is very expensive, ito ba ang cheaper alternative from the Rega DAC?
Post by: Stagea on Jul 17, 2012 at 03:09 PM
What i experienced there is the Rega DAC which is very expensive, ito ba ang cheaper alternative from the Rega DAC?
The Monitor series serves a different market, as it's PC-centric. The Rega DAC is more of a general purpose DAC.
Do ask Rex to demo the Musiland Monitor models for you, if you have the time.
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 03:51 PM
The Monitor series serves a different market, as it's PC-centric. The Rega DAC is more of a general purpose DAC.
Do ask Rex to demo the Musiland Monitor models for you, if you have the time.
Thanks sir Stagea, on my next visit i will do that...
Another question, i want to use the PSB T6 for HT and Music as well, but i want to use a different Amp for the T6 when playing music(NAD AMP, DAC, Music Streamer). Is there a switch or something i can use para the PSB are connected to both system then the switch will do the switching kung mag music ako or HT? I'm just talking about the L/R Fronts of PSB so di kasama sa switch yung center and surrounds. For stereo listening lang talaga.
Post by: warmaster on Jul 17, 2012 at 03:55 PM
Thanks sir Stagea, on my next visit i will do that...
Another question, i want to use the PSB T6 for HT and Music as well, but i want to use a different Amp for the T6 when playing music(NAD AMP, DAC, Music Streamer). Is there a switch or something i can use para the PSB are connected to both system then the switch will do the switching kung mag music ako or HT? I'm just talking about the L/R Fronts of PSB so di kasama sa switch yung center and surrounds. For stereo listening lang talaga.
i personally use one of marcrenz' switches for that same purpose 8)
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 17, 2012 at 03:55 PM
Thanks sir Stagea, on my next visit i will do that...
Another question, i want to use the PSB T6 for HT and Music as well, but i want to use a different Amp for the T6 when playing music(NAD AMP, DAC, Music Streamer). Is there a switch or something i can use para the PSB are connected to both system then the switch will do the switching kung mag music ako or HT? I'm just talking about the L/R Fronts of PSB so di kasama sa switch yung center and surrounds. For stereo listening lang talaga.
gayahin mo ako haha...
tangal kabit ako ng banana plugs sa likod ng speakers kapag HT and Audio hehehe
kung maluwag naman space mo at madali dukutin e pwede na...or buy the switcher
need lang na may cable ka na running from receiver and future int amp mo
Post by: sientobente on Jul 17, 2012 at 04:08 PM
Thanks sir Stagea, on my next visit i will do that...
Another question, i want to use the PSB T6 for HT and Music as well, but i want to use a different Amp for the T6 when playing music(NAD AMP, DAC, Music Streamer). Is there a switch or something i can use para the PSB are connected to both system then the switch will do the switching kung mag music ako or HT? I'm just talking about the L/R Fronts of PSB so di kasama sa switch yung center and surrounds. For stereo listening lang talaga.
Master, why not use the pre-out from your avr and connect it into the the main-in of the integrated amp? and then connect your DAC to the cd-in on the same int amp? Para isang cable connection lang going to your speakers. Yung problem lang na nakikita ko sa ganitong setup is, may volume control ka na sa avr, meron pa sa int. amp which may be off on your YPAO calibration pero madali naman ayusin yun.
Regarding the Musiland DAC, pwede na ito
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Musiland-Monitor-03-US-USB-sound-card-32bit-384KHz-/00/$(KGrHqV,!icE4uULLJ9,BOR+SYKBqg~~0_3.JPG)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rXGmtOwz4oY/TABA_MmOslI/AAAAAAAABls/oKxRNwoAlPc/s1600/musiland-monitor-01-us.jpg)
Sobrang laki ng difference if you are going to compare a regular 3.5mm out vs a usb dac using a PC. This setup saved me a lot of money by skipping on buying a dedicated cdp. Yun lang convenient ang dedicated cdp because of the remote and quick startup as against a pc.
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 04:15 PM
gayahin mo ako haha...
tangal kabit ako ng banana plugs sa likod ng speakers kapag HT and Audio hehehe
kung maluwag naman space mo at madali dukutin e pwede na...or buy the switcher
need lang na may cable ka na running from receiver and future int amp mo
Langya ka ayaw ko tanggal kabit.. mamaya magkamali pa ako at mag short pa he he he....
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 04:16 PM
i personally use one of marcrenz' switches for that same purpose 8)
Uyyy sir warmaster.. DIY ni sir marcrenz? can you PM me how much you got it? Do you have a pic?
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Master, why not use the pre-out from your avr and connect it into the the main-in of the integrated amp? and then connect your DAC to the cd-in on the same int amp? Para isang cable connection lang going to your speakers. Yung problem lang na nakikita ko sa ganitong setup is, may volume control ka na sa avr, meron pa sa int. amp which may be off on your YPAO calibration pero madali naman ayusin yun.
Regarding the Musiland DAC, pwede na ito
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Musiland-Monitor-03-US-USB-sound-card-32bit-384KHz-/00/$(KGrHqV,!icE4uULLJ9,BOR+SYKBqg~~0_3.JPG)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rXGmtOwz4oY/TABA_MmOslI/AAAAAAAABls/oKxRNwoAlPc/s1600/musiland-monitor-01-us.jpg)
Sobrang laki ng difference if you are going to compare a regular 3.5mm out vs a usb dac using a PC. This setup saved me a lot of money by skipping on buying a dedicated cdp. Yun lang convenient ang dedicated cdp because of the remote and quick startup as against a pc.
Brader medyo mahina ako sa mga Auto Calibration na ganyan eh... Gusto ko magkahiwalay na system para di malakas sa kuryente.. Kasi ang mangyayari kelangan lahat bukas para gumana right? Eh kung two separate system controlled by a switch, pwedeng patay yung isa pag di ginagamit.. :)
I'm just so hooked sa Audio right now grabe... KASALANAN MO DERICK.. I told you not to connect it to the NAD separates.. GRRRRRR >:(
Post by: sientobente on Jul 17, 2012 at 04:34 PM
Brader medyo mahina ako sa mga Auto Calibration na ganyan eh... Gusto ko magkahiwalay na system para di malakas sa kuryente.. Kasi ang mangyayari kelangan lahat bukas para gumana right? Eh kung two separate system controlled by a switch, pwedeng patay yung isa pag di ginagamit.. :)
I'm just so hooked sa Audio right now grabe... KASALANAN MO DERICK.. I told you not to connect it to the NAD separates.. GRRRRRR >:(
Naka-on lang master both yung avr and int amp kapag naka HT ka. Kapag music, yung integrated amp lang ang naka-on plus your music parapernalyas like cdp/music streamer/dac/pc. The rated power consumption of the NAD 375BEE(150wpc) is 290w. That's using full volume. On the average, usually masaya na ang mga tenga using a 9 o'clock gain which is probably just 1/4th of the power consumption. This also saves power on your avr to fully utilize its watts for your other speakers like surround and center.
And it's not really that difficult to calibrate. You can actually set the volume of the integrated amp on your normal music listening volume and then let ypao do the adjustments from it. Yung importante lang is you would always know the accurate volume/gain position of the knob on the integrated amp so it doesn't overwhelm your movie watching.
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 04:44 PM
Naka-on lang master both yung avr and int amp kapag naka HT ka. Kapag music, yung integrated amp lang ang naka-on plus your music parapernalyas like cdp/music streamer/dac/pc. The rated power consumption of the NAD 375BEE(150wpc) is 290w. That's using full volume. On the average, usually masaya na ang mga tenga using a 9 o'clock gain which is probably just 1/4th of the power consumption. This also saves power on your avr to fully utilize its watts for your other speakers like surround and center.
And it's not really that difficult to calibrate. You can actually set the volume of the integrated amp on your normal music listening volume and then let ypao do the adjustments from it. Yung importante lang is you would always know the accurate volume/gain position of the knob on the integrated amp so it doesn't overwhelm your movie watching.
Ganyan ba configuration nang setup mo bro? Mabisita ka nga minsan.. he he he
Post by: sientobente on Jul 17, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Ganyan ba configuration nang setup mo bro? Mabisita ka nga minsan.. he he he
Kaso di yamaha gamit ko but an old denon 2307. Kaya gusto ko sana nung yamaha 771 because it has more hdmi-in plus it sounds amazing with psb :)
Pwede ko dalhin int amp ko dyan sa inyo so you can try it out ;)
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 04:54 PM
Kaso di yamaha gamit ko but an old denon 2307. Kaya gusto ko sana nung yamaha 771 because it has more hdmi-in plus it sounds amazing with psb :)
Pwede ko dalhin int amp ko dyan sa inyo so you can try it out ;)
Aba aba aba.. magandang idea yan he he he.. Set natin bro... ;)
Post by: sientobente on Jul 17, 2012 at 04:56 PM
Aba aba aba.. magandang idea yan he he he.. Set natin bro... ;)
weekends ako available master. dalhin ko yung nad pati yung cambridge so you can compare ;) add nadin natin yung musiland para sa kulam ;D
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 04:59 PM
weekends ako available master. dalhin ko yung nad pati yung cambridge so you can compare ;) add nadin natin yung musiland para sa kulam ;D
Ha ha ha.. gusto mo akong mabiktima no ha ha ha ha? Sige tama.. kukulamin naman kita sa PJ ha ha ha...
Tingnan natin this weekend.. Pag di kami natuloy ni Misis sa Subic go tayo.. Punta din si Pau_Da_Mann naka PSB din yun.. Kulamin natin sa T6.. ha ha ha
Post by: sientobente on Jul 17, 2012 at 05:08 PM
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 05:11 PM
Pwede! :) naku maglalaway lang ako sa setup mo master. PM mo ako kung tuloy. :D Nameet ko na din si Idol Pau, sya ata mayari ng makati cinema square kasi lagi siyang andun ;)
Sige PM kita... At ako naman eh naglalaway din sa Setup mo ha ha ha...
Actually dun kami nag kita ni Pau last friday he he he...
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jul 17, 2012 at 06:05 PM
Pwede! :) naku maglalaway lang ako sa setup mo master. PM mo ako kung tuloy. :D Nameet ko na din si Idol Pau, sya ata mayari ng makati cinema square kasi lagi siyang andun ;)
teka pano namn ako napasok sa usapan nyo eh isa lang akong magbubukid...hehehe
isang himala at malaking blessing skin pag nakabili ako ng T6.... sana nga!...hahaha
anyways pag hnd natuloy si jayson sa subic malamang nga magkita-kita tayong 3 sa bahay nya...hehe
nga pala meron na pala akong ma-iishare sa inyong mga audiophiles materials surprise na lang muna...hehe
FYi: hnd nyo ako kayang kulamin dahil mangkukulam din ako..waaaahhhh!!!
regards sa inyo and more blessings to come... cheers!
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jul 17, 2012 at 06:12 PM
Sige PM kita... At ako naman eh naglalaway din sa Setup mo ha ha ha...
Actually dun kami nag kita ni Pau last friday he he he...
mga brader kaya ako madalas sa MCS sa watts-hifi eh dahil makita ko lang yung T6 eh masaya na ako
dahil hnd ko sya kayang bilhin...hehehe ang totoo eh cd lang tlga nabibili ko dun pa-isa-isa pa kada sweldo ko...
magdadala na lang ako ng mga concert BD's for demo natin sa malupit mong HT...hehe
cheers!!!
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 07:11 PM
mga brader kaya ako madalas sa MCS sa watts-hifi eh dahil makita ko lang yung T6 eh masaya na ako
dahil hnd ko sya kayang bilhin...hehehe ang totoo eh cd lang tlga nabibili ko dun pa-isa-isa pa kada sweldo ko...
magdadala na lang ako ng mga concert BD's for demo natin sa malupit mong HT...hehe
cheers!!!
Ayun naman pala eh... Teka ano ba binili mo nung Friday dun? Yung Rack? he he he CD pala ha he he he
Pwede naman play sa PS3 yung BD's di ba? Wala kasi akong BD player pero meron PS3 he he he
Post by: Stagea on Jul 17, 2012 at 09:29 PM
Naka-on lang master both yung avr and int amp kapag naka HT ka. Kapag music, yung integrated amp lang ang naka-on plus your music parapernalyas like cdp/music streamer/dac/pc. The rated power consumption of the NAD 375BEE(150wpc) is 290w. That's using full volume. On the average, usually masaya na ang mga tenga using a 9 o'clock gain which is probably just 1/4th of the power consumption. This also saves power on your avr to fully utilize its watts for your other speakers like surround and center.
And it's not really that difficult to calibrate. You can actually set the volume of the integrated amp on your normal music listening volume and then let ypao do the adjustments from it. Yung importante lang is you would always know the accurate volume/gain position of the knob on the integrated amp so it doesn't overwhelm your movie watching.
Pwede din switch na lang sa main in nung integrated amp to select between pre-out ng AVR or pre-out ng integrated amp. This way, hindi na dadaan sa preamp nung integrated yung output ng AVR. :)
Salamat din po sa libreng plug. ;D
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2012 at 10:52 PM
Pwede din switch na lang sa main in nung integrated amp to select between pre-out ng AVR or pre-out ng integrated amp. This way, hindi na dadaan sa preamp nung integrated yung output ng AVR. :)
Salamat din po sa libreng plug. ;D
Naguguluhan ako kung pano gawin yan....ha ha ha.. im such a noob he he he
Post by: sientobente on Jul 18, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Naguguluhan ako kung pano gawin yan....ha ha ha.. im such a noob he he he
Demo namin yan Master this weekend kapag tuloy :)
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jul 18, 2012 at 01:17 PM
Naguguluhan ako kung pano gawin yan....ha ha ha.. im such a noob he he he
haha....
sir stagea...may picture kaba ng connection?
Post by: gaol on Jul 18, 2012 at 02:40 PM
Pwede din switch na lang sa main in nung integrated amp to select between pre-out ng AVR or pre-out ng integrated amp. This way, hindi na dadaan sa preamp nung integrated yung output ng AVR. :)
Salamat din po sa libreng plug. ;D
Master Ivan,
Is this the same as this possible configuration: Denon AVR 4311 L/R pre-out > NAD C175 stereo power amp > PSB speakers?
Para ka na rin bang nag-stereo setup na NAD C375-PSB pag ganyan (with AVR settings at Direct para walang processing)? OR will the Denon AVR influence the sound more?
Post by: Stagea on Jul 18, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Master Ivan,
Is this the same as this possible configuration: Denon AVR 4311 L/R pre-out > NAD C175 stereo power amp > PSB speakers?
Para ka na rin bang nag-stereo setup na NAD C375-PSB pag ganyan (with AVR settings at Direct para walang processing)? OR will the Denon AVR influence the sound more?
Master Arn,
C275BEE power amp ba ang kinoconsider mo? Pwede yan, pero siyempre may influence pa din sa sound yung AVR. Rex can probably help you out kung balak mong subukan. :)
Post by: Courage on Jul 18, 2012 at 04:41 PM
Master Arn,
C275BEE power amp ba ang kinoconsider mo? Pwede yan, pero siyempre may influence pa din sa sound yung AVR. Rex can probably help you out kung balak mong subukan. :)
Para walang influence yung AVR mas maganda kung naka switch talaga right?
Post by: Stagea on Jul 18, 2012 at 04:50 PM
Naguguluhan ako kung pano gawin yan....ha ha ha.. im such a noob he he he
Line level selector switch lang that feeds the Main In of the C375BEE. It will select between the preouts of the C375BEE for music mode and the AVR's preouts for movie mode.
Para walang influence yung AVR mas maganda kung naka switch talaga right?
That's the only non-invasive way if you don't want the AVR to influence the output in music mode *AND* still skip the C375BEE's preamp when using the AVR (movie mode).
Post by: Courage on Jul 18, 2012 at 04:57 PM
Line level selector switch lang that feeds the Main In of the C375BEE. It will select between the preouts of the C375BEE for music mode and the AVR's preouts for movie mode.
That's the only non-invasive way if you don't want the AVR to influence the output in music mode *AND* still skip the C375BEE's preamp when using the AVR (movie mode).
Thanks sir Stagea.. I guess i'll stick to the Switch route
Post by: gaol on Jul 18, 2012 at 05:01 PM
Master Arn,
C275BEE power amp ba ang kinoconsider mo? Pwede yan, pero siyempre may influence pa din sa sound yung AVR. Rex can probably help you out kung balak mong subukan. :)
Ah yes, yung C275Bee. Hypothetical scenario lang, na-engganyo lang sa discussion dito. ;D ;D ;D
Pag ganyan, the emo xpa5 will power the center, rears and surrounds, with L-R powered by the C275, pre-amp mode young 4311.
Post by: gaol on Jul 18, 2012 at 05:04 PM
Line level selector switch lang that feeds the Main In of the C375BEE. It will select between the preouts of the C375BEE for music mode and the AVR's preouts for movie mode.
That's the only non-invasive way if you don't want the AVR to influence the output in music mode *AND* still skip the C375BEE's preamp when using the AVR (movie mode).
Saan nakakabit yung speakers, dun sa C375EE?
Post by: Courage on Jul 18, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Ah yes, yung C275Bee. Hypothetical scenario lang, na-engganyo lang sa discussion dito. ;D ;D ;D
Pag ganyan, the emo xpa5 will power the center, rears and surrounds, with L-R powered by the C275, pre-amp mode young 4311.
Wow.. XPA-5 pa ang mag popower nang Center, Rear and Surrounds... nice... plan bro..
Post by: gaol on Jul 18, 2012 at 06:09 PM
Wow.. XPA-5 pa ang mag popower nang Center, Rear and Surrounds... nice... plan bro..
Actually, nauna yung xpa5 ng one year sa PSB ko, bro.... :)
Post by: Courage on Jul 18, 2012 at 06:37 PM
Actually, nauna yung xpa5 ng one year sa PSB ko, bro.... :)
Is there a difference in SQ if powered by EMO yung speaks vs powered by Denon itself? Na compare mo ba bro?
Post by: gaol on Jul 18, 2012 at 07:08 PM
Is there a difference in SQ if powered by EMO yung speaks vs powered by Denon itself? Na compare mo ba bro?
Yes it did, as I recall with my speakers then, the Mission m30 series, especially at higher volumes. When I got the PSBs I didn't try them without the emo anymore.
Post by: Stagea on Jul 19, 2012 at 01:38 AM
Saan nakakabit yung speakers, dun sa C375EE?
Yes. The power section of the C375BEE will always be driving the main speakers. Yung switcher is to select lang between the preamp of the C375BEE or the preout ng AVR.
(http://www.listenup.com/lu/graphics/00000001/NAD.C375BEE_Rear.jpg)
The switcher will be inserted in-line along the Pre-Out 1 to Main In loop. The switcher will choose between Pre-Out 1 or AVR as the source.
Audio sources will hook directly to the C375BEE's line inputs (or modules, if you're using the optional phono and DAC modules), while video sources will go through the AVR.
Post by: gaol on Jul 19, 2012 at 05:19 AM
Yes. The power section of the C375BEE will always be driving the main speakers. Yung switcher is to select lang between the preamp of the C375BEE or the preout ng AVR.
(http://www.listenup.com/lu/graphics/00000001/NAD.C375BEE_Rear.jpg)
The switcher will be inserted in-line along the Pre-Out 1 to Main In loop. The switcher will choose between Pre-Out 1 or AVR as the source.
Audio sources will hook directly to the C375BEE's line inputs (or modules, if you're using the optional phono and DAC modules), while video sources will go through the AVR.
Thanks, Ivan! Gets ko na. Hmmm, interesting. :)
Post by: Stagea on Jul 19, 2012 at 05:32 AM
Thanks, Ivan! Gets ko na. Hmmm, interesting. :)
You're welcome, sir Arn. There's no harm in trying. ;)
To prove that the C375BEE's internals is the same as the C275BEE, NAD actually recommends the use of the C275BEE to augment the C375BEE when running in bridge mode (if you really need the headroom). One side would be powered by the C375BEE, while the other would be powered by the C275BEE. NAD claims over 400WPC in this configuration. Vertical and Horizontal Biamping setups are also possible with the C375 + C275 combo.
The C375 alone would do just fine in most cases, however. The price is a steal, as you're essentially getting a C165BEE equivalent for almost nothing (the C375 is priced just above the C275). The MDC DAC and PP 375 expansion modules can be added when a need for them arises.
Post by: Courage on Jul 19, 2012 at 07:20 AM
You're welcome, sir Arn. There's no harm in trying. ;)
To prove that the C375BEE's internals is the same as the C275BEE, NAD actually recommends the use of the C275BEE to augment the C375BEE when running in bridge mode (if you really need the headroom). One side would be powered by the C375BEE, while the other would be powered by the C275BEE. NAD claims over 400WPC in this configuration. Vertical and Horizontal Biamping setups are also possible with the C375 + C275 combo.
The C375 alone would do just fine in most cases, however. The price is a steal, as you're essentially getting a C165BEE equivalent for almost nothing (the C375 is priced just above the C275). The MDC DAC and PP 375 expansion modules can be added when a need for them arises.
Interesting nga... hmmm... Sir gaol.. pag pumunta ka sa route na to sabihan mo ako at nang mapakinggan... Specially your Imagine T2's...
Post by: Stagea on Jul 19, 2012 at 09:14 AM
Interesting nga... hmmm... Sir gaol.. pag pumunta ka sa route na to sabihan mo ako at nang mapakinggan... Specially your Imagine T2's...
Imagine T ata yung kay Master Arn. Bagong labas lang yung T2 eh.
Yung NAD C390DD interested ako marinig. The C390DD is the baby M2, much like how the C375BEE is the baby M3.
Post by: Courage on Jul 19, 2012 at 09:17 AM
Imagine T ata yung kay Master Arn. Bagong labas lang yung T2 eh.
Yung NAD C390DD interested ako marinig. The C390DD is the baby M2, much like how the C375BEE is the baby M3.
Nag upgrade na sya sa T2. He posted it sa Gallery nya he he he...
Post by: Stagea on Jul 19, 2012 at 09:21 AM
Nag upgrade na sya sa T2. He posted it sa Gallery nya he he he...
Oh wow! Galing naman! Di ko pa narinig yan T2. :) Congrats Master Arn!
Post by: Courage on Jul 19, 2012 at 04:26 PM
KASALANAN MO TO DERICK he he he
Post by: sientobente on Jul 19, 2012 at 06:34 PM
Try nyo Imagine mini. Really small speakers, but the bass was unbelievable. It fooled me to thinking that the bass were coming from a floorstander.
Post by: Courage on Jul 19, 2012 at 06:37 PM
Small speakers, big sound :)
Try nyo Imagine mini. Really small speakers, but the bass was unbelievable. It fooled me to thinking that the bass were coming from a floorstander.
I agree, Small but sounded really big... ang galing..
I saw that pero di ko na try he he he... Ma try nga pag balik ko he he he...
Post by: gaol on Jul 19, 2012 at 06:39 PM
You're welcome, sir Arn. There's no harm in trying. ;)
To prove that the C375BEE's internals is the same as the C275BEE, NAD actually recommends the use of the C275BEE to augment the C375BEE when running in bridge mode (if you really need the headroom). One side would be powered by the C375BEE, while the other would be powered by the C275BEE. NAD claims over 400WPC in this configuration. Vertical and Horizontal Biamping setups are also possible with the C375 + C275 combo.
The C375 alone would do just fine in most cases, however. The price is a steal, as you're essentially getting a C165BEE equivalent for almost nothing (the C375 is priced just above the C275). The MDC DAC and PP 375 expansion modules can be added when a need for them arises.
Actually, there is potential harm ... to the wallet! ;D ;D ;D
But as you put it, between the 275 and the 375, the 375 really looks to be the more compelling proposition. :)
Interesting nga... hmmm... Sir gaol.. pag pumunta ka sa route na to sabihan mo ako at nang mapakinggan... Specially your Imagine T2's...
Sure bro! :)
Oh wow! Galing naman! Di ko pa narinig yan T2. :) Congrats Master Arn!
Thanks, Thanks, Master Ivan! :) :)
Post by: Courage on Jul 19, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Yes. The power section of the C375BEE will always be driving the main speakers. Yung switcher is to select lang between the preamp of the C375BEE or the preout ng AVR.
(http://www.listenup.com/lu/graphics/00000001/NAD.C375BEE_Rear.jpg)
The switcher will be inserted in-line along the Pre-Out 1 to Main In loop. The switcher will choose between Pre-Out 1 or AVR as the source.
Audio sources will hook directly to the C375BEE's line inputs (or modules, if you're using the optional phono and DAC modules), while video sources will go through the AVR.
Is the release here of this model has the DAC? Phono? or Both Modules?
Post by: sientobente on Jul 19, 2012 at 10:40 PM
The NAD product I'm waiting for is the C546BEE. :)
NAD + PSB = FTW! ;)
Post by: Courage on Jul 19, 2012 at 10:43 PM
Last time I checked, the C375BEE DAC isn't available yet even it's MDC DAC. The one locally sold is the regular C375BEE with the NAD PP375(phono) MDC. As soon as the MDC DAC gets released, you can install it on the extra slot at the back of the amp.
The NAD product I'm waiting for is the C546BEE. :)
NAD + PSB = FTW! ;)
So walang C375BEE dito na may DAC pa and di pa available talaga yung module, even sa US?
Post by: sientobente on Jul 19, 2012 at 11:04 PM
So walang C375BEE dito na may DAC pa and di pa available talaga yung module, even sa US?
Probably it's already available in the US but I wouldn't bother that much on that MDC DAC upgrade on the C375BEE. The MDC DAC is priced at US$250. With that kind of price, I believe you can buy better performing external DACs like a Musiland 03.
Post by: Courage on Jul 19, 2012 at 11:30 PM
Probably it's already available in the US but I wouldn't bother that much on that MDC DAC upgrade on the C375BEE. The MDC DAC is priced at US$250. With that kind of price, I believe you can buy better performing external DACs like a Musiland 03.
Mahal he he he....
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jul 20, 2012 at 06:33 AM
Mahal he he he....
mga Brader wala namng mahal sa inyo ni gerard eh....hehehe
im sure after few months pareho na kayong meron nyan...hehe
just PM me Brader jayson kung tuloy tyo this weekends...
regards sa lahat... :)
Post by: Courage on Jul 20, 2012 at 07:14 AM
mga Brader wala namng mahal sa inyo ni gerard eh....hehehe
im sure after few months pareho na kayong meron nyan...hehe
just PM me Brader jayson kung tuloy tyo this weekends...
regards sa lahat... :)
Bro sent you PM...
Post by: resident_evil on Jul 22, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Post by: Courage on Jul 22, 2012 at 03:00 PM
Im currently using a NAD 326 for my Imagine B. Im looking for more clarity, soundstage, instrument separation, and bass. Can you recommend an amp for my planned upgrade? Apart from the NAD 375, what other amps can I consider? Preferably same price level as the 375 or cheaper. As you may know, the Imagines are 4 ohms.
CA, Marantz or Rotel i guess?
Post by: Stagea on Jul 22, 2012 at 05:29 PM
Im currently using a NAD 326 for my Imagine B. Im looking for more clarity, soundstage, instrument separation, and bass. Can you recommend an amp for my planned upgrade? Apart from the NAD 375, what other amps can I consider? Preferably same price level as the 375 or cheaper. As you may know, the Imagines are 4 ohms.
How much toe are you running? How far are your speakers from the room boundaries? What source and cables are you using?
Before you choose another amp, try to mix and match your components first (if you have extra ones). Try keeping the pair away from walls and adding a little more toe. As for the bass, you can have a small sub handle that.
Post by: NeilJohn on Jul 22, 2012 at 06:19 PM
I'm currently researching as I would like to build my first HT / Audio system. I live in a condo, which limits my choice to smallish BS speakers. Would you guys recommend the imagine mini 5.1 (L, R, Surrounds with mini centre c and subseries 1) set-up to go with an Onkyo 616? It will be used in the living room / dining ~20 - 25 sq m. with 70/30 video - music.
I'm also looking at the Q2000i but I am not quite sure if they're available locally. Haven't seen sellers from this forum yet. I'd appreciate if you can give alternatives to these. Kindly point me in the right direction for auditioning these systems as well.
Thanks very much.
Neil
Post by: resident_evil on Jul 22, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Post by: Stagea on Jul 23, 2012 at 12:21 AM
Sir Stagea, it is toed in such that the sweet spot is 10 feet from the speakers. I do not know the angle. Sabre metal stands. Im using a NAD 515 CDP, Ecosse MKIV speaker cables, Cal's ICs and Yaquin CD2. Speakers are 2.5 feet from rear wall and 3 feet from side walls. This the maximum placement. Also using a streamline conditioner. I just feel that the speakers are hungry for more juice. I do not play very loud. Usually 9 o clock at the volume knob is sufficient for me. Will a more powerful amp give more detail and clarity at the same volume?m
Well, Ashley mentioned that he recommends at least a C355/C356 for the Imagine B. The C565BEE and the C375BEE are great with the Imagine series, in my experience. However, if you're a full-time analytical listener then you may want to try another brand for your source and amplifier. NADs aren't the most revealing gear, but they make a good balance for most people. Higher model NADs will give you more authority and improvements across the board with more or less a similar house sound. If you're looking for a different sound, then you should start cross-shopping and auditioning your other options.
Start with the basics. Take out the tube buffer and the power conditioner to eliminate extra causes/sources of compression, noise and distortion. The system should be likable at this level, or there is likely something wrong with the matching. Roll whatever ICs and cables you have to get closest to the sound that you're after. You can also bring these with you to your dealer, to simulate your setup with the same gear. This way you can switch between what you have and what they have just to open up possible options (ICs, speaker cables, amps and sources). Once you're back home, fine-tune your toe then play with the tone controls (yes, they can be useful in some systems).
Once you nailed the best combination for your gear, listen to it for sometime to see if it's enough to satisfy you. At this point, you can try adding back the other things that you had in the chain, then carefully evaluate if they make a positive impact (or if they just change the sound).
After doing this exercise, you should have a good idea of whether you need new electronics (or whether you should be looking within the NAD family or from another brand altogether if you do decide to replace your electronics).
Post by: resident_evil on Jul 23, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Post by: warmaster on Jul 23, 2012 at 01:52 AM
Well, Ashley mentioned that he recommends at least a C355/C356 for the Imagine B. The C565BEE and the C375BEE are great with the Imagine series, in my experience. However, if you're a full-time analytical listener then you may want to try another brand for your source and amplifier. NADs aren't the most revealing gear, but they make a good balance for most people. Higher model NADs will give you more authority and improvements across the board with more or less a similar house sound. If you're looking for a different sound, then you should start cross-shopping and auditioning your other options.
Start with the basics. Take out the tube buffer and the power conditioner to eliminate extra causes/sources of compression, noise and distortion. The system should be likable at this level, or there is likely something wrong with the matching. Roll whatever ICs and cables you have to get closest to the sound that you're after. You can also bring these with you to your dealer, to simulate your setup with the same gear. This way you can switch between what you have and what they have just to open up possible options (ICs, speaker cables, amps and sources). Once you're back home, fine-tune your toe then play with the tone controls (yes, they can be useful in some systems).
Once you nailed the best combination for your gear, listen to it for sometime to see if it's enough to satisfy you. At this point, you can try adding back the other things that you had in the chain, then carefully evaluate if they make a positive impact (or if they just change the sound).
After doing this exercise, you should have a good idea of whether you need new electronics (or whether you should be looking within the NAD family or from another brand altogether if you do decide to replace your electronics).
commendable advise brother. mix and match muna with what you have to isolate the cause kung bakit gusto mo mag upgrade.
Thank you for taking the time to answer my queries sir.
play just one track all throughout the process. toe in the speakers, change the speaker cables, change jumper cables, reposition the speakers against the walls, plus to a different outlet etc. lahat ng pwede mo gawin without spending a dime gawin mo. kung wala pa rin maybe you should visit an AV shop to try something different
Post by: sientobente on Jul 24, 2012 at 02:33 PM
Hi Sirs,
I'm currently researching as I would like to build my first HT / Audio system. I live in a condo, which limits my choice to smallish BS speakers. Would you guys recommend the imagine mini 5.1 (L, R, Surrounds with mini centre c and subseries 1) set-up to go with an Onkyo 616? It will be used in the living room / dining ~20 - 25 sq m. with 70/30 video - music.
I'm also looking at the Q2000i but I am not quite sure if they're available locally. Haven't seen sellers from this forum yet. I'd appreciate if you can give alternatives to these. Kindly point me in the right direction for auditioning these systems as well.
Thanks very much.
Neil
That's a nice set you are eyeing for. although the onkyo 616 is capable of driving those speakers, i believe it won't be able to maximize the potential of that speaker set. you can look at the imagine series, they are easier to drive. try to look at the b4 and c4 whose almost the same size as the imagine mini but more affordable :)
Post by: Courage on Jul 24, 2012 at 03:45 PM
That's a nice set you are eyeing for. although the onkyo 616 is capable of driving those speakers, i believe it won't be able to maximize the potential of that speaker set. you can look at the imagine series, they are easier to drive. try to look at the b4 and c4 whose almost the same size as the imagine mini but more affordable :)
Image series ROCKSSSSS.... ;)
Post by: NeilJohn on Jul 24, 2012 at 04:58 PM
That's a nice set you are eyeing for. although the onkyo 616 is capable of driving those speakers, i believe it won't be able to maximize the potential of that speaker set. you can look at the imagine series, they are easier to drive. try to look at the b4 and c4 whose almost the same size as the imagine mini but more affordable :)
- thanks very much for the advise sir!
Post by: sientobente on Aug 03, 2012 at 02:12 PM
Image series ROCKSSSSS.... ;)
Master, tuloy sa weekend ang pagaudition namin sa bigtime PSB setup niyo? ;)
Post by: Courage on Aug 03, 2012 at 03:21 PM
Master, tuloy sa weekend ang pagaudition namin sa bigtime PSB setup niyo? ;)
Yup pwede ako, question is makakapunta ba kayo? At wag ka ngang ganyan dahil pareho tayo nang setup ha ha ha
Calling Pau_Da_Man..
PM ko number ko sa inyo..
Saturday after lunch?
Post by: rexFi on Aug 03, 2012 at 04:23 PM
question ko is, will the PSB B25 available right now sa Marketplace will be a good match for my HK134 Avr for Music?
My current subs are wharf SW150.
or will the Alpha B1s can suffice?
Any links to opinions and reviews may do I guess.
TIA po.
Post by: sientobente on Aug 04, 2012 at 07:19 PM
ay dapat magtanong din pala ako dito in addition sa Recommend a Speaker thread ;D
question ko is, will the PSB B25 available right now sa Marketplace will be a good match for my HK134 Avr for Music?
My current subs are wharf SW150.
or will the Alpha B1s can suffice?
Any links to opinions and reviews may do I guess.
TIA po.
Both are nice. If your ears are sensitive to to 14khz above, I believe the B25 being in the Image line has a more extended frequency range. When my friend auditioned my T6 vs B1, he says the T6 has a better ambiance on 20khz plus the difference in sibilance is noticeable --- incredible ears ;D
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 04, 2012 at 07:27 PM
Yup pwede ako, question is makakapunta ba kayo? At wag ka ngang ganyan dahil pareho tayo nang setup ha ha ha
Calling Pau_Da_Man..
PM ko number ko sa inyo..
Saturday after lunch?
hindi ako tinext oh???? hmpf
heard the imagine....quite good hihihi
Post by: Courage on Aug 04, 2012 at 11:37 PM
hindi ako tinext oh???? hmpf
heard the imagine....quite good hihihi
Di natuloy bro kaya di na kita tinext..
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 05, 2012 at 12:54 AM
Di natuloy bro kaya di na kita tinext..
good good good
anu fully breakin mo na ung PSB mo?
nagpatugtog ako ng imagine dun sa MCS with rega int amp hehe
namimiss ko pa din ung lambot ng REGA DAC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 05, 2012 at 01:13 AM
ay dapat magtanong din pala ako dito in addition sa Recommend a Speaker thread ;D
question ko is, will the PSB B25 available right now sa Marketplace will be a good match for my HK134 Avr for Music?
My current subs are wharf SW150.
or will the Alpha B1s can suffice?
Any links to opinions and reviews may do I guess.
TIA po.
The B25 is soundly better than the B1, imho. I've had both years ago.
Both carry the same characteristics and are wonderfully flat in response. The B25 plays lower and louder however, and seems to exhibit cleaner decay characteristics. The B1 feels most comfortable at moderate playback levels, as the midrange gets muddled up as you turn up the knob. The B1 could be great when high-passed and integrated with a sub, but the B25 is just the better and more flexible option.
The B25 pair is among the best value speakers I've owned. It had a certain honesty to it (little coloration), and a low price. The main downsides being that it lacks the dynamic capability of higher end speakers (or newer designs at the same price point), and that it does not layer images nearly as well as some other options.
Post by: rexFi on Aug 12, 2012 at 09:20 PM
Got the Alpha muna. Ayus naman yung Audition ko bringing my own CDs.
1. Paglisan (CD Mix) - Color It Red
2. Rusty Cage - Soundgarden
3. This Love - Pantera
4. Like You - Bowow feat. Ciara
5. Almost Like Being In Love - Nat King Cole
What sold me was the Synths and Guitars. Lalo na paguwi ko with the Ole' Beatles songs. ;D
Tsaka na Upgrade. *di ko na low ball esteh natawaran :D to 10K yung nagbebenta ng B25 sa marketplace eh.
^_^
Maganda pala Rosewood finish. I like...
Post by: Courage on Aug 12, 2012 at 09:46 PM
good good good
anu fully breakin mo na ung PSB mo?
nagpatugtog ako ng imagine dun sa MCS with rega int amp hehe
namimiss ko pa din ung lambot ng REGA DAC
Ganda nung Rega DAC noh?
Post by: Courage on Aug 12, 2012 at 09:47 PM
:D
Got the Alpha muna. Ayus naman yung Audition ko bringing my own CDs.
1. Paglisan (CD Mix) - Color It Red
2. Rusty Cage - Soundgarden
3. This Love - Pantera
4. Like You - Bowow feat. Ciara
5. Almost Like Being In Love - Nat King Cole
What sold me was the Synths and Guitars. Lalo na paguwi ko with the Ole' Beatles songs. ;D
Tsaka na Upgrade. *di ko na low ball esteh natawaran :D to 10K yung nagbebenta ng B25 sa marketplace eh.
^_^
Maganda pala Rosewood finish. I like...
Congrats on your new PSB sir... PSB sound is so addicting grabe.. :)
Post by: rexFi on Aug 12, 2012 at 09:52 PM
Sa MCS nga pala yung Audition etc.
Post by: sientobente on Aug 13, 2012 at 12:45 AM
:D
Got the Alpha muna. Ayus naman yung Audition ko bringing my own CDs.
1. Paglisan (CD Mix) - Color It Red
2. Rusty Cage - Soundgarden
3. This Love - Pantera
4. Like You - Bowow feat. Ciara
5. Almost Like Being In Love - Nat King Cole
What sold me was the Synths and Guitars. Lalo na paguwi ko with the Ole' Beatles songs. ;D
Tsaka na Upgrade. *di ko na low ball esteh natawaran :D to 10K yung nagbebenta ng B25 sa marketplace eh.
^_^
Maganda pala Rosewood finish. I like...
Congrats on your new speakers! :) Ganda nga ng rosewood/dark cherry. Yun lang, hirap ako makahanap ng terno na subs aside from the psb subseries 5i ;D
Post by: sientobente on Aug 18, 2012 at 08:10 PM
Post by: warmaster on Aug 18, 2012 at 08:40 PM
This lazy afternoon, I took time to listen to the Synchrony Two and I was blown away by the realism on these speakers. When I was in college, I was a member of the campus ministry so I get to stay next to choir and listen to them sing and sometimes have their jamming sessions. When I listened to these speakers, it sounded earily familiar. It's like I'm in the same room as the band. The instruments sounded very natural, the singer envelopes you with it's presence. The mistakes or mistiming of the guitar player were very audible. It's very transparent and can be revealing. It sounded really awesome! How I wish I can afford these :-[ Gears connected were NAD separates C275Bee + C165BEE and the C565BEE cdp. Speaker wires were Van Del Hul.
kaya mo yan brother ;) konting black magic lang hehe
Post by: sientobente on Aug 18, 2012 at 08:44 PM
kaya mo yan brother ;) konting black magic lang hehe
naku brader, kahit magbenta ako ng kidney kulang pa rin pambili nitong synchrony ;D I just saw the synchrony two page from the psb website and it was tagged as natural musicality:
http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/synchrony/Synchrony-Two
now that's a tagline that is true as advertised ;)
Post by: resident_evil on Aug 19, 2012 at 11:18 PM
naku brader, kahit magbenta ako ng kidney kulang pa rin pambili nitong synchrony ;D I just saw the synchrony two page from the psb website and it was tagged as natural musicality:
http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/synchrony/Synchrony-Two
now that's a tagline that is true as advertised ;)
Try the Imagine Bs. Cheaper than the Synchrony line but I like them better. Ang sexy pa ng dating. I can't let go of my Imagines kahit na Im currently using Dyns Audience 72SE. Iba pa rin resolution and clarity ng PSB Imagines. In fact, I like the Imagine Bs better than the Tower version when Rex and I compared them.
Post by: sientobente on Aug 20, 2012 at 08:11 AM
Try the Imagine Bs. Cheaper than the Synchrony line but I like them better. Ang sexy pa ng dating. I can't let go of my Imagines kahit na Im currently using Dyns Audience 72SE. Iba pa rin resolution and clarity ng PSB Imagines. In fact, I like the Imagine Bs better than the Tower version when Rex and I compared them.
That's really interesting. Yes, that's the next set of psb speakers I have to audition. I'm expecting the Imagine B's will impress me the same way the Imagine T's and Minis have.
Post by: NeilJohn on Aug 20, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Can the image T6 be driven to its potential by the NAD T748 or the Yamaha 771? Now looking at floorstanders as the BS will need stands anyway. Other suggestions?
Also looking at the Zensor 5 (fronts) - Zensor 1s (rear) and vokal + Denon 1912 combo. Your thoughts?
Will audition some time early September.
Thanks.
Post by: Stagea on Aug 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Hi guys,
Can the image T6 be driven to its potential by the NAD T748 or the Yamaha 771? Now looking at floorstanders as the BS will need stands anyway. Other suggestions?
Yes, these AVRs could drive the T6. The RX-V771 is more feature-laden with equalization, auto-setup and video processing, while the T748 is a lot simpler (your money goes to audio credentials).
Post by: resident_evil on Aug 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM
That's really interesting. Yes, that's the next set of psb speakers I have to audition. I'm expecting the Imagine B's will impress me the same way the Imagine T's and Minis have.
Rex and I did an A-B comparison of the Imagine Bs and Ts. The Ts can obviuosly go lower but we ilked the Bs more. If you live in the south, I can let you hear the Bs in my place.
Post by: sientobente on Aug 20, 2012 at 08:42 PM
Hi guys,
Can the image T6 be driven to its potential by the NAD T748 or the Yamaha 771? Now looking at floorstanders as the BS will need stands anyway. Other suggestions?
Also looking at the Zensor 5 (fronts) - Zensor 1s (rear) and vokal + Denon 1912 combo. Your thoughts?
Will audition some time early September.
Thanks.
Yes the T6 can be powered well by the Yamaha 771. This exact combination is readily available in What Hifi. What I like about the 771 is the preouts so if ever you feel that you want to feed your T6s more power, you can add a power amp.
Dalis are interesting, still have to audition them. Price level wise, I think you have to look at Ikon 5s instead of Zensors to compare against the T6.
@resident_evil
Thanks for the offer Sir, yun lang nasa opposite side of the metro ako :) What amp and source are you using with the Imagine B's?
Post by: resident_evil on Aug 20, 2012 at 09:44 PM
Yes the T6 can be powered well by the Yamaha 771. This exact combination is readily available in What Hifi. What I like about the 771 is the preouts so if ever you feel that you want to feed your T6s more power, you can add a power amp.
Dalis are interesting, still have to audition them. Price level wise, I think you have to look at Ikon 5s instead of Zensors to compare against the T6.
@resident_evil
Thanks for the offer Sir, yun lang nasa opposite side of the metro ako :) What amp and source are you using with the Imagine B's?
Rega Brio R, NAD 515 CDP, Rega P3-24 TT, chord silver screen speaker cables, furutech IC.
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 20, 2012 at 10:26 PM
Rega Brio R, NAD 515 CDP, Rega P3-24 TT, chord silver screen speaker cables, furutech IC.
DOC your setup was the current setup kela rex hehe last time na pumunta ako to get your stands
ung cable lang ang hindi saka ic
mahal din ng rega brio amp hehe
want ko sana sya pakingan with rega dac ung imagine kaya lang nabili na that time ung rega
Post by: Courage on Aug 20, 2012 at 10:35 PM
DOC your setup was the current setup kela rex hehe last time na pumunta ako to get your stands
ung cable lang ang hindi saka ic
mahal din ng rega brio amp hehe
want ko sana sya pakingan with rega dac ung imagine kaya lang nabili na that time ung rega
Wala na yung Rega dun?
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 20, 2012 at 11:54 PM
Wala na yung Rega dun?
wala na SIS may kumuha na hehehe
baka ikaw?
Post by: Courage on Aug 21, 2012 at 01:31 AM
wala na SIS may kumuha na hehehe
baka ikaw?
Asa pa ako ha ha ha
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Aug 21, 2012 at 07:49 AM
Post by: Stagea on Aug 21, 2012 at 07:54 AM
Mga sis anong difference sa SQ ng imagine at synchrony? Diba pareho sila ng material for their tweets na Titanium dome? :)
Bigger sounding ang Synchrony, as it's voiced for bigger rooms. Very refined but can sound chesty and boomy pag malapit sa room boundaries ang speaker or listening position. Imagine is often better for smaller spaces imo, unless i-EQ mo yung Synchrony. Iba din ng konti character nila, medyo mas forward ang Imagine. Compare mo na lang kung ano mas type mo.
Post by: Courage on Aug 21, 2012 at 07:56 AM
Mga sis anong difference sa SQ ng imagine at synchrony? Diba pareho sila ng material for their tweets na Titanium dome? :)
Huli ka.. ;D
Post by: Courage on Aug 21, 2012 at 08:07 AM
Mga sis anong difference sa SQ ng imagine at synchrony? Diba pareho sila ng material for their tweets na Titanium dome? :)
Unmatched Realism bro he he he
(http://www.psbspeakers.com/img/img.php?101118154546-synchrony_One_Speaker.jpg/900)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Aug 21, 2012 at 08:47 AM
Huli ka.. ;D
Curious lang sis, hehe...
Laki kasi ng price difference nila ;D
Unmatched Realism bro he he he
Ano ibig sabihin nyan sis... Mahina ako sa ganyan eh, hehehe :D
Post by: sientobente on Aug 21, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Rega Brio R, NAD 515 CDP, Rega P3-24 TT, chord silver screen speaker cables, furutech IC.
That's a nice set sir :)
@Louie_18
Idol, halos pareho lang ang presyo ng Imagine T2 and Synchrony Two. If you are aiming for a very realistic live sound, the Synchrony has to be the best affordable(cheap for Don Master Louie's level) speaker around. As for the Imagine, the sound was meant to be more pleasing to the ears. Though they may have the same type of tweeter material, the implementation is very different. Just like Dynes with dome tweets across all their lines. Different sound for every level or model. ;)
Post by: Courage on Aug 21, 2012 at 03:08 PM
That's a nice set sir :)
@Louie_18
Idol, halos pareho lang ang presyo ng Imagine T2 and Synchrony Two. If you are aiming for a very realistic live sound, the Synchrony has to be the best affordable(cheap for Don Master Louie's level) speaker around. As for the Imagine, the sound was meant to be more pleasing to the ears. Though they may have the same type of tweeter material, the implementation is very different. Just like Dynes with dome tweets across all their lines. Different sound for every level or model. ;)
Para kay Don Louie Synchrony One agad.. Di pwede dyan ang 2nd to the best... Dapat always the best,,
Post by: sientobente on Aug 22, 2012 at 05:44 PM
Para kay Don Louie Synchrony One agad.. Di pwede dyan ang 2nd to the best... Dapat always the best,,
Ang balita ko a one-off PSB Diamond Signature Series ang hinanda talaga ni Paul Barton para lang kay Don Master Louie ;)
Post by: Courage on Aug 22, 2012 at 05:58 PM
Ang balita ko a one-off PSB Diamond Signature Series ang hinanda talaga ni Paul Barton para lang kay Don Master Louie ;)
He he he... balita ko dumedercho na si brader kay Paul Barton...
Post by: raffyph on Aug 31, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Is it best to get an all-PSB setup including the sub? Or is it fine to get another brand for the sub? Im looking at Sub5i, but if its fine to get another brand of sub (better bass quality, same price) i would. Im kinda looking at a used SVS sub. Or best pa din to pair the psb speakers with a psb sub?
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Aug 31, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Hi mga sir,
Is it best to get an all-PSB setup including the sub? Or is it fine to get another brand for the sub? Im looking at Sub5i, but if its fine to get another brand of sub (better bass quality, same price) i would. Im kinda looking at a used SVS sub. Or best pa din to pair the psb speakers with a psb sub?
Based from experience and internet articles, ok lang if different brand ng sub basta importante same and fronts speakers mo...
Post by: Courage on Aug 31, 2012 at 04:48 PM
Hi mga sir,
Is it best to get an all-PSB setup including the sub? Or is it fine to get another brand for the sub? Im looking at Sub5i, but if its fine to get another brand of sub (better bass quality, same price) i would. Im kinda looking at a used SVS sub. Or best pa din to pair the psb speakers with a psb sub?
SVS bro ;). Though i heard the PSB sub as well and maganda din sya tumunog..
Post by: sientobente on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:00 PM
Post by: Courage on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:04 PM
psb subs are great for music although if you are craving for the 20hz fix, it's not the right sub to purchase unless you get the subsonic 6i.
Pero di ba luma na yung 6i? Is this still available sa mga stores?
Post by: otep_32 on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:13 PM
Pero di ba luma na yung 6i? Is this still available sa mga stores?we have one unit left of 6i.akala ko last na yung kinuha ni bartender.buti may isa pa natira sa distributor.idol ko pa nman sub nto ;D ;D
Post by: sientobente on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:15 PM
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e127/esthomps/NousaineSubwooferResults-2.jpg)
note: this is the pre-sledge amp of the svs.
Post by: Courage on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:16 PM
we have one unit left of 6i.akala ko last na yung kinuha ni bartender.buti may isa pa natira sa distributor.idol ko pa nman sub nto ;D ;D
Yang model na yan ba yung nadidinig nung nag test tayo nang mga movies? Yung nasa pinaka sulok sa left side nang viewing area?
Post by: otep_32 on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:21 PM
Yang model na yan ba yung nadidinig nung nag test tayo nang mga movies? Yung nasa pinaka sulok sa left side nang viewing area?tama sir,6i yung nadinig mo dati.
Post by: Courage on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:23 PM
tama sir,6i yung nadinig mo dati.
Ahhhhh ehhh.. maganda nga yang sub na yan... ;)
Post by: sientobente on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:27 PM
tama sir,6i yung nadinig mo dati.
Sir Rex, pwede ba kulitin ang hifi+ magdala ng dark cherry na subseries 200? ;)
Post by: Courage on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:31 PM
Sir Rex, pwede ba kulitin ang hifi+ magdala ng dark cherry na subseries 200? ;)
Di bagay sayo ang 200.. mas bagay yung 500 for you brader...
(http://www.psbspeakers.com/img/img.php?101118102003-SS500-Cherry-3_4-Grille-Off-HR.jpg/260)
Post by: sientobente on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:34 PM
Di bagay sayo ang 200.. mas bagay yung 500 for you brader...
(http://www.psbspeakers.com/img/img.php?101118102003-SS500-Cherry-3_4-Grille-Off-HR.jpg/260)
sobrang mahal kasi idol. parang naka svs pb13ultra ka na sa presyo nyang 500. Yung 300 naman walang dark cherry na kulay, kahirap maghanap ng sub na dark cherry :(
Post by: Courage on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:38 PM
sobrang mahal kasi idol. parang naka svs pb13ultra ka na sa presyo nyang 500. Yung 300 naman walang dark cherry na kulay, kahirap maghanap ng sub na dark cherry :(
Ano ba sub mo ngayon?
Post by: sientobente on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:51 PM
Ano ba sub mo ngayon?
pang mahirap na mirage. although nothing is wrong naman with the sub, i just feel na kahit dual pa siya mahina pa rin for movies. minsan nga nakakalimutan ko magsub using our t6 ;D
Post by: Courage on Aug 31, 2012 at 05:53 PM
pang mahirap na mirage. although nothing is wrong naman with the sub, i just feel na kahit dual pa siya mahina pa rin for movies. minsan nga nakakalimutan ko magsub using our t6 ;D
ANo ka ba naman.. walang pang mahirap sa gears natin he he he... Yung sub ko sa movies ko na lang nagagamit.. Although pag anak ko nanonood di ko na inoon.. yumayanig pa din ang room he he he
Post by: armymanhaha on Sep 12, 2012 at 02:45 AM
Post by: sientobente on Sep 13, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Im planning on getting the Synchrony one or two b. Is the one b a considerable step up from two b?
Those are nice speaker choices sir :) Haven't tried the synchrony bookshelves but basing it on the specs, the two b only has a 5.25 inch woofer which is limited to 50hz vs the one b's 6.5 inch which can do 40hz. Based on my impression on the synchrony towers, it's a very transparent speaker that doesn't have any coloration which makes it sound very natural.
Post by: armymanhaha on Sep 14, 2012 at 06:35 AM
Post by: sientobente on Sep 14, 2012 at 10:17 PM
Post by: armymanhaha on Sep 20, 2012 at 09:12 PM
Post by: sientobente on Sep 21, 2012 at 08:43 PM
i find the synchrony series warm and detailed sounding, while the studio series is on the bright(er) side. they are both very detailed. i ended up with the synchrony one b ;D
congratulations sir :) is this paired with your rotel amp?
Post by: Fernan19 on Sep 21, 2012 at 09:06 PM
Post by: armymanhaha on Sep 21, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Post by: sientobente on Sep 22, 2012 at 10:33 AM
mga bossing, inquiry lang po. ano match na psb floorstander for NAD 326BEE? Thanks and Cheers
my 326bee powers my Image T6 and it does so with ease. you can also try an Alpha T1 or an Image T5. all these towers and the amp are available in What Hifi so you could try them out ;)
Post by: tmteyob on Sep 28, 2012 at 03:43 PM
Baka may alam kayo na gustong bumili ng PSB speakers Image T45, Image T55, Stratus 6i Centre, subseries 6i sub and NAD T763. with original box pa, seldom used. big discount kung lahat kukunin, may kasama pang good quality cable and banana plugs. :)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 28, 2012 at 03:46 PM
Hi Everyone,
Baka may alam kayo na gustong bumili ng PSB speakers Image T45, Image T55, Stratus 6i Centre, subseries 6i sub and NAD T763. with original box pa, seldom used. big discount kung lahat kukunin, may kasama pang good quality cable and banana plugs. :)
It's better to post you items in the marketplace. Libre ang magpost doon ;)
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 28, 2012 at 05:06 PM
It's better to post you items in the marketplace. Libre ang magpost doon ;)tama baka bilhin yan ni papa louie para saken hehehe
louie hinihintay ka ng synch two sa MP haha
Post by: gaol on Oct 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM
http://www.hometheater.com/content/psb-imagine-t2-speaker-system
(http://www.hometheater.com/images/1012psbsp.promo_.jpg)
Post by: Courage on Oct 17, 2012 at 09:40 PM
This glowing review just in, PSB Imagine T2 HT speaker system:
http://www.hometheater.com/content/psb-imagine-t2-speaker-system
(http://www.hometheater.com/images/1012psbsp.promo_.jpg)
Ang pogi talaga nang Imagine T2. Drool na drool na talaga ako dyan...
Post by: armymanhaha on Oct 18, 2012 at 05:04 AM
Post by: rexFi on Oct 18, 2012 at 06:08 PM
marami pa akong kakaining bigas mga sir ah. :D
KakaStart ko palang sa PSB Alpha B1 tagal pa ko sa Imagine or Synchrony level hehehe O0
Post by: sientobente on Oct 18, 2012 at 06:19 PM
wooohooo :o
marami pa akong kakaining bigas mga sir ah. :D
KakaStart ko palang sa PSB Alpha B1 tagal pa ko sa Imagine or Synchrony level hehehe O0
The Alpha B1 are really nice speakers. I once considered creating my HT around that set :)
Post by: sientobente on Oct 18, 2012 at 07:31 PM
This glowing review just in, PSB Imagine T2 HT speaker system:
http://www.hometheater.com/content/psb-imagine-t2-speaker-system
(http://www.hometheater.com/images/1012psbsp.promo_.jpg)
Great article Sir Arn! Enjoyed reading it. What I like about Paul Barton is his openness to reveal the build construction of his speakers. He and Nelson Pass are the best audio designers I admire. The subseries 300 pala can go 21Hz on -6db. Hope they would publish a frequency response graph about it :)
Post by: Stagea on Oct 19, 2012 at 02:53 AM
Great article Sir Arn! Enjoyed reading it. What I like about Paul Barton is his openness to reveal the build construction of his speakers. He and Nelson Pass are the best audio designers I admire. The subseries 300 pala can go 21Hz on -6db. Hope they would publish a frequency response graph about it :)
You are correct. Please check the blue plot for the Subseries 300's quasi-anechoic response measurement.
(http://www.hometheater.com/images/1012psbsp.meas.jpg)
+/-3dB in that plot is about 22-170Hz.
Post by: Valiente on Oct 20, 2012 at 11:07 AM
Post by: sientobente on Oct 20, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Guys, what is the brand new price for Alpha B1?
PSB Price list
alpha series:
t1 -24,000
b1- 13,000
c1- 10,000
image series:
t6- 55,000
t5-44,000
b6-21,000
b5- 18,000
b4- 14,000
c4- 16,500
c5- 21,000
s5- 39,000
imagine series:
t2- 122,000
t- 89,000
b- 46,000
c- 36,000
s- 53,000
mini- 32,000
synchrony series:
0ne- 210,000
two- 155,000
one b- 94,000
two b- 70,000
one c- 80,000
two c- 65,000
s - 89,000
You can actually get discounts for cash purchases. :)
Post by: Courage on Oct 20, 2012 at 11:03 PM
Post by: sientobente on Oct 22, 2012 at 05:26 PM
Panagarp ko yang t2 pang 2 channel audio.... Kelan kelan kelan he he he
For sure gugulatin mo kami Master Jason, by tom, meron na kayo nyan :)
Post by: Courage on Oct 22, 2012 at 05:44 PM
For sure gugulatin mo kami Master Jason, by tom, meron na kayo nyan :)
Naku eto nga at nagkandarapa sa pag bebenta nang items ha ha ha..... Kung Louie ang pangalan ko pwede pa he he he
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 22, 2012 at 05:46 PM
Pero masarap nga yang Imagine T2 with NAD AMP >:D
Post by: Courage on Oct 22, 2012 at 06:07 PM
Buti na lang Luis pangalan ko... Hehehe :D
Pero masarap nga yang Imagine T2 with NAD AMP >:D
Pasko na naman oh kay tulin nang araw...
Paskong nag daan tila ba kung kaylan lang...
Wahahahahaha
SANA MABAIT SI SANTA KLAWS NGAYONG PASKO ha ha ha ha
Post by: rexFi on Nov 05, 2012 at 07:56 PM
I "heard" that Direct Mode or Pure Direct modes on a AVReceiver can have better sounding Audio/Music. :)
What entry/mid tier receivers do you guys recommend for my Alpha B1? :D
*tatanong ko sana sa Receiver questions, pero dito nalang. ^_^
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 05, 2012 at 07:59 PM
Denon
Marantz
NAD
Cambridge Audio
Post by: sientobente on Nov 05, 2012 at 08:47 PM
Question lang mga Boss.
I "heard" that Direct Mode or Pure Direct modes on a AVReceiver can have better sounding Audio/Music. :)
What entry/mid tier receivers do you guys recommend for my Alpha B1? :D
*tatanong ko sana sa Receiver questions, pero dito nalang. ^_^
Actually Direct Mode will sound good if your source has an excellent dac because this mode bypasses the receiver's own processing and goes straight to the output. If you are going to use a regular dvd-player, you might be disappointed with the result. A dedicated cdp might produce a better output. As for Pure Audio, I believe this just turns off the video processing of the avr but still retains the audio processing chain within the avr.
Post by: rexFi on Nov 14, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Based on this thread (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,56991.3630)
Are Yamaha AVReceivers a good match for my Alpha B1s?
For Music and Fronts in HT.
Thanks.
:D
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Question lang mga Boss.rotel avr ganda tunog nyan psb b1 i heard it...hihihi
I "heard" that Direct Mode or Pure Direct modes on a AVReceiver can have better sounding Audio/Music. :)
What entry/mid tier receivers do you guys recommend for my Alpha B1? :D
*tatanong ko sana sa Receiver questions, pero dito nalang. ^_^
Post by: Courage on Nov 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Hello :)
Based on this thread (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,56991.3630)
Are Yamaha AVReceivers a good match for my Alpha B1s?
For Music and Fronts in HT.
Thanks.
:D
Im not sure kung similar ang tunog nang alpha sa image line... But all i can say is im enjoying the image with my yamaha receiver...music and movies..
Nung nasa watt hifi ako auditioning my t6 and c5, b1 yung naka connect sa surrounds and they are amazing...
Post by: rexFi on Nov 14, 2012 at 12:31 PM
^^
^^^^
thanks sa inputs 8)
Post by: otep_32 on Nov 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM
^audition mo na si yamaha dito
^^
^^^^
thanks sa inputs 8)
Post by: Courage on Nov 14, 2012 at 12:37 PM
audition mo na si yamaha dito
Ayan oh he he he.....
Post by: rexFi on Nov 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM
audition mo na si yamaha dito
Hehe naHarang kasi (see WAF). :) nagaadvance research lang muna ako and baka naman yung NAD 326 talaga kunin ko eh. ^_^
Post by: bartender on Nov 14, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Hehe naHarang kasi (see WAF). :) nagaadvance research lang muna ako and baka naman yung NAD 326 talaga kunin ko eh. ^_^
For mixed HT and audio use, my reco is with the Yamaha. Rex, will be of big help in auditioning the setup.
Post by: sientobente on Nov 29, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 29, 2012 at 11:00 PM
By the way, I found the Bifrost kind of thin sounding. Do i share the opinion with anybody on this?
Post by: Courage on Nov 29, 2012 at 11:06 PM
yeah. i heard the t2's playing with a nad 375bee a few weeks ago at MCS. Pretty good and damn sexy 8) The combo revealed the subtle differences between the Schiit Bifrost DAC, Rega DAC, and Musiland 03. Parang gusto ko nga bumili ng imagine b kasi mas maganda sila tignan compared sa synchony one b ko.
By the way, I found the Bifrost kind of thin sounding. Do i share the opinion with anybody on this?
Hows the performance of bifrost vs Rega?
Post by: sientobente on Nov 29, 2012 at 11:07 PM
yeah. i heard the t2's playing with a nad 375bee a few weeks ago at MCS. Pretty good and damn sexy 8) The combo revealed the subtle differences between the Schiit Bifrost DAC, Rega DAC, and Musiland 03. Parang gusto ko nga bumili ng imagine b kasi mas maganda sila tignan compared sa synchony one b ko.
By the way, I found the Bifrost kind of thin sounding. Do i share the opinion with anybody on this?
naku sir, aesthetics is second to sound quality. your synchrony ones are the bomb! ;)
Post by: Courage on Nov 29, 2012 at 11:08 PM
master jason and i auditioned the psb imagine t2 last weekend(yes, hindi kung anu-anong bar sa cubao ang inaaudition namin ;D ), the difference in sound versus our image t6 was amazing, although we both agree the t6 isn't far behind specially in bass performance, what was really noticeable was the crispiness of those t2s. it also has a wider soundstage and it looks like it doesn't need any toe-in. the build too was awesome, it was really beautiful. the wood veneer finish was seamless and in dark cherry, the t2 is definitely captivating. maka-taya na nga sa lotto ;D
Bro.. nag start na akong mag ipon for the T2's he he he... Naka tipid ako nang 50 pesos today.. so if i save up 50 pesos per day?? hmmmm wag na lang kakain na lang ulit ako ha ha ha
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 30, 2012 at 12:39 AM
Hows the performance of bifrost vs Rega?
In my opinion, its true when they say that the Rega DAC is 'Analog-sounding'. If I remember correctly, there was a sense of immediacy to the sound of the Rega in terms of soundstage representation. Sa Schiit, it was nice too pero may pagka 'papansin' yung top end for my ears but does sound refined maybe its just not the sound i'm looking for a DAC, especially lean sounding na yung amp ko so naturally fat sounding yung source ko. Comparing the mid-end naman mas realistic yung pagka present ng vocals and guitars sa Rega. I actually ended up with the Musiland 03 as a temporary PC DAC para mag transport to my future Rega DAC :D
naku sir, aesthetics is second to sound quality. your synchrony ones are the bomb! ;)
The synchrony series really looks good kelangan lang talaga tignan mo muna sila mabuti. Pag pinupunasan ko sila pag naalikabukan, I find myself worshiping the immense build quality the synchrony has and how freakin beatiful it is to look at from the front drivers and especially back to the binding posts. Kaso, ganda kasi ng curves ng imagine :D 'nakaka tempt kumuha for a second setup, they could pass as lifestyle speakers pang sala lalo na siguro kung gloss black. Parang younger sister ni synchrony, prettier and sexier. hahaha
Post by: Stagea on Nov 30, 2012 at 12:50 AM
In my opinion, its true when they say that the Rega DAC is 'Analog-sounding'. If I remember correctly, there was a sense of immediacy to the sound of the Rega in terms of soundstage representation.
I think Rega's after a certain "sound" with their front end components (whether we're talking about their CDPs, DACs, TTs/Phono Stages). I'd almost consider them "flat earth" because like Naims and Linns of the past, they don't measure very well. Many people do like the sound however, and that matters more in general.
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 30, 2012 at 12:27 PM
yeah. i heard the t2's playing with a nad 375bee a few weeks ago at MCS. Pretty good and damn sexy 8) The combo revealed the subtle differences between the Schiit Bifrost DAC, Rega DAC, and Musiland 03. Parang gusto ko nga bumili ng imagine b kasi mas maganda sila tignan compared sa synchony one b ko.how was it compare with your prev. vdac II?
By the way, I found the Bifrost kind of thin sounding. Do i share the opinion with anybody on this?
Post by: gaol on Nov 30, 2012 at 12:59 PM
I think Rega's after a certain "sound" with their front end components (whether we're talking about their CDPs, DACs, TTs/Phono Stages). I'd almost consider them "flat earth" because like Naims and Linns of the past, they don't measure very well. Many people do like the sound however, and that matters more in general.
Master, what do you mean by "flat earth" for Rega?
Post by: Stagea on Nov 30, 2012 at 01:32 PM
Master, what do you mean by "flat earth" for Rega?
Boss Arn, "flat-earth" is an approach to audio focused on subjective response. Flat earthers tend to do things a little differently -- like focusing more on the front end than the speakers, putting little weight on bench data, etc. The "tune dem" is an example of a classic flat earth practice, wherein they evaluate how a system "carries a tune" instead of focusing on technical details.
http://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/FAQ_-_Tune_Dem (http://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/FAQ_-_Tune_Dem)
The opposite is the "round-earth" approach, which is the conventional and scientific/structured way of doing things. The aim is largely to deliver excellent measurements in every angle. Even subjective listening done in the "round-earth" way is technical in nature (with lots of emphasis on proper placement, sharp focus, projected stage dimensions, neutrality, noise floor, etc.).
Flat-earthers want "musicality" more than "fidelity," emphasizing that a music (aka Flat-earth) system sounds like music, and that a HiFi (aka Round-earth) system sounds like HiFi. In the past, many round-earthers generally didn't consider flat-earth systems as HiFi, because they were very bothered with the "wrongness" of the output.
If we're gonna liken it to evaluating a car, the flat-earth approach is essentially selecting a car based on what makes you smile. The round-earth approach is selecting the one that delivers the best performance.
Flat-earth was coined because it's partly sticking with how things were before modern knowledge/techniques. Like how components were developed and selected before advanced measurement and design. It also references to the stubbornness of people who kept on rejecting the concept that the world is round.
In the past, there was less diversity in audio and very few companies (like Linn and Naim) championed the flat earth approach towards things. There was a time when many found this unacceptable and un-HiFi. Nowadays, the term is very rarely used as we now have a resurgence of products that incorporate flat-earth ways (NOS DACs, Turntables, Tube Electronics, Full Range Drivers, etc.). I actually see fewer and fewer purely "round-earth" HiFi people nowadays.
Post by: melbourne on Nov 30, 2012 at 02:10 PM
PSB imagine B speakers
NAD375bee amplifier
NADc515bee cd player
Since I am from mindanao and i'll be purchasing online, may i know what are your recommendations regarding
1. color/finish for PSB imagine B speakers?
2. speaker wires
3. interconnect (i dont know if this is the exact term but i am referring to wire that connects the cd player to amp)
4. speaker stand
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 30, 2012 at 02:50 PM
I'll be purchasing my 2.0 stereo system next week thru Rex of Watt Hifi consisting of :
PSB imagine B speakers
NAD375bee amplifier
NADc515bee cd player
Since I am from mindanao and i'll be purchasing online, may i know what are your recommendations regarding
1. color/finish for PSB imagine B speakers? - Walnut or Cherry
2. speaker wires - Chord Carnival Silverscreen
3. interconnect (i dont know if this is the exact term but i am referring to wire that connects the cd player to amp) - Cal's Interconnect
4. speaker stand - Meron sila Rex yung mga copy ng Sonus Speaker Stands
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 30, 2012 at 03:21 PM
sir cant remember much na kasi dati it was through a Dynaudio Audience 42 and the V-dac mk2. The setup sounded spacious to me if i remember right. I just cant do a memory comparison kasi very different yung setups na nagamit.
@sir Stagea
Ah yun pala tawag dun sir. I guess thats what happens when the market let consumers cherry pick their amps,source and speakers. I actually listened to a podcast interview of mr. paul barton himself saying that its very silly that we pick our own components based on our tastes.
may nakita din ako dati sa youtube isang big time producer na pinakingan yung vinyl version of his work. his reaction was leaning towards being dismayed and said that was not the way he meant it to be heard. i wish i could remember his name or even the link. it was an audio expo in the US much like what we had here in Dusit.
Post by: Courage on Nov 30, 2012 at 03:24 PM
I'll be purchasing my 2.0 stereo system next week thru Rex of Watt Hifi consisting of :
PSB imagine B speakers
NAD375bee amplifier
NADc515bee cd player
Since I am from mindanao and i'll be purchasing online, may i know what are your recommendations regarding
1. color/finish for PSB imagine B speakers?
2. speaker wires
3. interconnect (i dont know if this is the exact term but i am referring to wire that connects the cd player to amp)
4. speaker stand
Uyyyy congratulation bro Melbourne.. You'll surely love that setup for years... Post ka pics pag na deliver na at na setup na... Advance congrats to you bro..
Post by: melbourne on Nov 30, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Thanks for the reply brader Louie. I heard a lot of positive feedback regarding cal's interconnect.
Post by: melbourne on Nov 30, 2012 at 04:00 PM
Uyyyy congratulation bro Melbourne.. You'll surely love that setup for years... Post ka pics pag na deliver na at na setup na... Advance congrats to you bro..
Yes brader Jason. Thank you for helping me decide for this set-up. Kaunting tanong nalang ang gumugulo sa utak ko. Can you help me answer the questions above.
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 30, 2012 at 04:08 PM
Walnut
(http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/209psb.1.jpg)
Cherry
(http://audiovisualinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/PSB-Imagine-B-pair.jpg)
Post by: sientobente on Nov 30, 2012 at 04:36 PM
I'll be purchasing my 2.0 stereo system next week thru Rex of Watt Hifi consisting of :
PSB imagine B speakers
NAD375bee amplifier
NADc515bee cd player
Since I am from mindanao and i'll be purchasing online, may i know what are your recommendations regarding
1. color/finish for PSB imagine B speakers?
2. speaker wires
3. interconnect (i dont know if this is the exact term but i am referring to wire that connects the cd player to amp)
4. speaker stand
Congrats in advance sir melbourne! :) the imagine b has two different finishes that I love, dark cherry and piano black. You won't go wrong with any of the two. My personal favorite is dark cherry, it fits most furniture finishes and should be easier to maintain than the glossy black finish. For cables and interconnects, I suggest you try the neutral sounding ones first to appreciate the performance of that nad+psb setup. When I say neutral, try a regular gauge 12-14 wire and a good thick generic interconnect then if you'd like to add color to the sound, you can upgrade. My impressions on the ff are: Sidewinder ICs and rega quattro speaker cables can add warmth, vandelhul clearwater speaker cables are transparent(not just in aesthetics), kimber cables adds airiness, xindak speaker cables can tame the HF. There's a whole lot more of available choices in watt hifi and that includes a wide variety of speaker stands to choose from. I'm looking forward to see that killer setup in our ht gallery thread. Again, congrats! :)
Post by: Courage on Nov 30, 2012 at 04:38 PM
Thanks for the reply brader Louie. I heard a lot of positive feedback regarding cal's interconnect.
Wallnut for me
For a cheaper alternative on speaker cables and interconnects you can try paolorenzo's cables...
Post by: melbourne on Nov 30, 2012 at 06:04 PM
Congrats in advance sir melbourne! :) the imagine b has two different finishes that I love, dark cherry and piano black. You won't go wrong with any of the two. My personal favorite is dark cherry, it fits most furniture finishes and should be easier to maintain than the glossy black finish. For cables and interconnects, I suggest you try the neutral sounding ones first to appreciate the performance of that nad+psb setup. When I say neutral, try a regular gauge 12-14 wire and a good thick generic interconnect then if you'd like to add color to the sound, you can upgrade. My impressions on the ff are: Sidewinder ICs and rega quattro speaker cables can add warmth, vandelhul clearwater speaker cables are transparent(not just in aesthetics), kimber cables adds airiness, xindak speaker cables can tame the HF. There's a whole lot more of available choices in watt hifi and that includes a wide variety of speaker stands to choose from. I'm looking forward to see that killer setup in our ht gallery thread. Again, congrats! :)
Nice review on cables and interconnects bro Gerald. Thank you for this information.Wallnut for me
For a cheaper alternative on speaker cables and interconnects you can try paolorenzo's cables...
i am leaning towards walnut or dark cherry color.
Post by: Courage on Nov 30, 2012 at 06:15 PM
i am leaning towards walnut or dark cherry color.
Yup maganda nga yung Dark Cherry/Walnut color... Na inlab nga kami ni Gerard dun sa speakers kina rex.. panay himas namin....
Eto ngat di na kami kumakain para makaipon pambili nang Imagine
Post by: gaol on Nov 30, 2012 at 06:51 PM
As for the color choice, I also like Dark Cherry and Walnut, although I'm not sure if the local distro has brought in walnut Imagines.
Boss Arn, "flat-earth" is an approach to audio focused on subjective response. Flat earthers tend to do things a little differently -- like focusing more on the front end than the speakers, putting little weight on bench data, etc. The "tune dem" is an example of a classic flat earth practice, wherein they evaluate how a system "carries a tune" instead of focusing on technical details.
http://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/FAQ_-_Tune_Dem (http://docs.linn.co.uk/wiki/index.php/FAQ_-_Tune_Dem)
The opposite is the "round-earth" approach, which is the conventional and scientific/structured way of doing things. The aim is largely to deliver excellent measurements in every angle. Even subjective listening done in the "round-earth" way is technical in nature (with lots of emphasis on proper placement, sharp focus, projected stage dimensions, neutrality, noise floor, etc.).
Flat-earthers want "musicality" more than "fidelity," emphasizing that a music (aka Flat-earth) system sounds like music, and that a HiFi (aka Round-earth) system sounds like HiFi. Many round-earthers generally didn't consider flat-earth systems as HiFi, because they were very bothered with the "wrongness" of the output.
If we're gonna liken it to evaluating a car, the flat-earth approach is essentially selecting a car based on what makes you smile. The round-earth approach is selecting the one that delivers the best performance.
Flat-earth was coined because it's partly sticking with how things were before modern knowledge/techniques. Like how components were developed and selected before advanced measurement and design. It also references to the stubbornness of people who kept on rejecting the concept that the world is round.
In the past, there was less diversity in audio and very few companies (like Linn and Naim) championed the flat earth approach towards things. There was a time when many found this unacceptable and un-HiFi. Nowadays, the term is very rarely used as we now have a resurgence of products that incorporate flat-earth ways (NOS DACs, Turntables, Tube Electronics, Full Range Drivers, etc.). I actually see fewer and fewer purely "round-earth" HiFi people nowadays.
May bago na naman ako natutunan sa yo Master!
How does this flat-earth/round-earth relate to warm-neutral-bright?
Am I right in supposing that companies who aim for neutral components are round earth, like PSB especially for the Imagines? And companies like NAD with "smiley face" equalization are somewhat flat earth?
Post by: Stagea on Nov 30, 2012 at 11:45 PM
May bago na naman ako natutunan sa yo Master!
How does this flat-earth/round-earth relate to warm-neutral-bright?
Am I right in supposing that companies who aim for neutral components are round earth, like PSB especially for the Imagines? And companies like NAD with "smiley face" equalization are somewhat flat earth?
Old school terminology lang kasi, Master Arn. Medyo bihira na gamitin ngayon since nagkahalohalo na ang flat at round earth. A good round earth system should be fairly close to neutral, whilst there is more variation with flat earth (whatever works for the person... though the far majority are quite warm-sounding).
PSB is very round-earth, and I'd consider NAD round-earth as well. Though their characters have changed recently, they continue to have a great focus on objective measurement (especially with NAD's move to direct digital tech). Components that are aimed for the round earth crowd typically have detailed and impressive spec sheets so this includes the far majority of burly SS amplifiers, high resolution digital players, high tech speakers, etc. Traditional brands like Mark Levinson, Krell, MBL, Bryston, Wilson Audio, etc. and high tech makers like Revel, Magico, Focal, Lyngdorf, TacT, etc. are prime examples.
Linn, Naim, Rega, Audio Note, etc. have actually embraced a lot of round-earth ways, but they still have that flat-earthiness in them (technical performance is still secondary to experience, and this can be seen in numbers that stick out during bench testing). Small scale manufacturers of niche components like folded and conical horn speakers, tube electronics (especially single ended ones), etc. may be the new "flat-earth."
Post by: Stagea on Nov 30, 2012 at 11:52 PM
(http://www.stereophile.com/images/712an.AN41fig08.jpg)
Since he/she is used to seeing this:
(http://www.stereophile.com/images/712NADfig07.jpg)
But a flat-earther may actually prefer the sound of the former, as it could be closer to "music" to his/her ear. The same goes with distortion numbers, dynamic range, frequency response, etc.
Post by: resident_evil on Dec 01, 2012 at 01:04 AM
I'll be purchasing my 2.0 stereo system next week thru Rex of Watt Hifi consisting of :
PSB imagine B speakers
NAD375bee amplifier
NADc515bee cd player
Since I am from mindanao and i'll be purchasing online, may i know what are your recommendations regarding
1. color/finish for PSB imagine B speakers?
2. speaker wires
3. interconnect (i dont know if this is the exact term but i am referring to wire that connects the cd player to amp)
4. speaker stand
Perfect combo yan bro. Unbeatable. I have the dark cherry Imagine B. For the wires and ICs, Rex has Rega and VDH I think. Why don't you audition and choose one to your liking. Our bro Cal also makes very good ICs and speakers wires. I use his ICs for my office set up.
Post by: melbourne on Dec 01, 2012 at 08:10 AM
Perfect combo yan bro. Unbeatable. I have the dark cherry Imagine B. For the wires and ICs, Rex has Rega and VDH I think. Why don't you audition and choose one to your liking. Our bro Cal also makes very good ICs and speakers wires. I use his ICs for my office set up.
I am from mindanao atty so i dont have the luxury to audition the gears. I'll be purchasing online so i am relying on feedbacks. Rex offer me the rega quattro speaker wires and vandenhul ic's for this set-up. But I hear a lot of positive feedback for cal's ic and a lot of our pdvd brothers are using it so i think i'll give it a try. What speaker wires are using for your imagine B?
Post by: resident_evil on Dec 01, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 01, 2012 at 10:08 AM
I'll be purchasing my 2.0 stereo system next week thru Rex of Watt Hifi consisting of :naks....ayan na rex ung tropa na nangangati na..hehehe...
PSB imagine B speakers
NAD375bee amplifier
NADc515bee cd player
Since I am from mindanao and i'll be purchasing online, may i know what are your recommendations regarding
1. color/finish for PSB imagine B speakers?
2. speaker wires
3. interconnect (i dont know if this is the exact term but i am referring to wire that connects the cd player to amp)
4. speaker stand
speaker stands maganda ung sabre na metal...medyo mabigat lang...
sa wakas nagpost ka din...sorry hindi kita naasikaso last time hehe...
nawala cp ko hindi ka makakatawag..later papaplitan ko ung sim ko
ung may reach me on this number today and tom the same num
09175557556
Post by: melbourne on Dec 01, 2012 at 08:06 PM
naks....ayan na rex ung tropa na nangangati na..hehehe...
speaker stands maganda ung sabre na metal...medyo mabigat lang...
sa wakas nagpost ka din...sorry hindi kita naasikaso last time hehe...
nawala cp ko hindi ka makakatawag..later papaplitan ko ung sim ko
ung may reach me on this number today and tom the same num
09175557556
Oo nga brader derrick bibili na ako next week hopefully by monday, Problema ko nalang is kung anong speaker wire at speaker stand ang bibilhin ko and i'm ready to go. May pics ka ba ng sabre metal stand at nasa magkano kaya ang presyo niyan?
Ecosse lang bro. Will ask Rex to use Rega speaker cables in his shop and give you feedback.
Thanks atty. Rega at cal's speaker wires lang at the moment ang may access ako to purchase online.
Post by: Courage on Dec 01, 2012 at 09:09 PM
Oo nga brader derrick bibili na ako next week hopefully by monday, Problema ko nalang is kung anong speaker wire at speaker stand ang bibilhin ko and i'm ready to go. May pics ka ba ng sabre metal stand at nasa magkano kaya ang presyo niyan?
Thanks atty. Rega at cal's speaker wires lang at the moment ang may access ako to purchase online.
Nice bro... set na set ka na... Sleepless nights yan.. pero ilang tulog na lang and youre in Stereo Heaven... Gawa ka na nang Gallery mo pag dumating para documented... 10 years from now pwede mo balikan kung san nagsimula ang lahat he he he PSB + NAD ROCKS BIGTIME....
Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 01, 2012 at 10:04 PM
I concur, PSB really shines with the NAD got chance to audition the NAD + PSB B6 last week in Festival Hi-Fi Lounge and they sound great for me..compare ko rin sya sa B&W 685 with NAD the PSB B6 sounds better with the NAD but still YMMV. ;)
Nice bro... set na set ka na... Sleepless nights yan.. pero ilang tulog na lang and youre in Stereo Heaven... Gawa ka na nang Gallery mo pag dumating para documented... 10 years from now pwede mo balikan kung san nagsimula ang lahat he he he PSB + NAD ROCKS BIGTIME....
oh btw the Omega + NAD amp is a killer IMO, its incomparable daw sabi ng staff ng Hi-Fi Lounge since malaki difference nila sa size ng driver.. :)
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 02, 2012 at 03:30 PM
asa first page ng purmans gallery ko hehe...medyo mabigat lang un
Oo nga brader derrick bibili na ako next week hopefully by monday, Problema ko nalang is kung anong speaker wire at speaker stand ang bibilhin ko and i'm ready to go. May pics ka ba ng sabre metal stand at nasa magkano kaya ang presyo niyan?
Thanks atty. Rega at cal's speaker wires lang at the moment ang may access ako to purchase online.
kung hindi kaya meron dun na kahoy kela rex same nung bibilhin ko dapat kay brader jason(courage)
Post by: Stagea on Dec 03, 2012 at 10:09 AM
Ah yun pala tawag dun sir. I guess thats what happens when the market let consumers cherry pick their amps,source and speakers. I actually listened to a podcast interview of mr. paul barton himself saying that its very silly that we pick our own components based on our tastes.
may nakita din ako dati sa youtube isang big time producer na pinakingan yung vinyl version of his work. his reaction was leaning towards being dismayed and said that was not the way he meant it to be heard. i wish i could remember his name or even the link. it was an audio expo in the US much like what we had here in Dusit.
I don't see this practice as wrong -- it's like judging something by flavor or visual appeal. In such a case, the purchase was not based on the quality of the sonic reproduction but based on the palatability of the rendition. It's often what people do to build an enjoyable "music system." However, I belong to the group that do not consider wildly colored systems as "high fidelity."
Post by: gaol on Dec 03, 2012 at 10:22 AM
I don't see this practice as wrong -- it's like judging something by flavor or visual appeal. In such a case, the purchase was not based on the quality of the sonic reproduction but based on the palatability of the rendition. It's often what people do to build an enjoyable "music system." However, I belong to the group that do not consider wildly colored systems as "high fidelity."
Hmm, Ivan, I may be flattening my round earth a bit more as I've recently replaced the Rega Apollo (which you heard before but with the Denon-Emotiva only) and partnered the Nad M3 and PSB Imagine T2 with a Cayin CD player! ;D ;D
Post by: armymanhaha on Dec 03, 2012 at 10:50 AM
http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/alpha/Alpha-PS1-Powered-Speaker
When I started this hobby almost more than a year ago my personal goal was to hear what the artists wanted me to hear. Its a good thing I am introduced these 2 camps, at least I know what to look out for.
Post by: sientobente on Dec 03, 2012 at 11:07 AM
Alright, I guess one thing's for sure. Mr. Barton is a round-earther. Just hearing him talk all about psycho-acoustics and his design philosophies makes me interested in his powered speakers. Check out the new PSB Alpha PS1.
http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/alpha/Alpha-PS1-Powered-Speaker
When I started this hobby almost more than a year ago my personal goal was to hear what the artists wanted me to hear. Its a good thing I am introduced these 2 camps, at least I know what to look out for.
Those PS1s are interesting. Looks like it's as small as the image b4 but has the finish of an imagine mini. Anong amp pala sir ang binabalak niyo ipalit dun sa rotel?
Post by: gaol on Dec 03, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Those PS1s are interesting. Looks like it's as small as the image b4 but has the finish of an imagine mini. Anong amp pala sir ang binabalak niyo ipalit dun sa rotel?
I agree. If I need PC speakers this would be on my shortlist. Magkano kaya and will the local distro bring it in?
Post by: armymanhaha on Dec 03, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Those PS1s are interesting. Looks like it's as small as the image b4 but has the finish of an imagine mini. Anong amp pala sir ang binabalak niyo ipalit dun sa rotel?
Sa totoo lang di ko pa alam. Naghahanap ako ng Musical Fidelity A308 na used, although I might have a go sa A300 in the market right now pag nangati talaga at kinulang sa budget. :D Thinking of getting a NAD din sana lang may lumitaw ulit na Masters series sa MP na used para tipid.
Post by: Stagea on Dec 03, 2012 at 12:17 PM
Hmm, Ivan, I may be flattening my round earth a bit more as I've recently replaced the Rega Apollo (which you heard before but with the Denon-Emotiva only) and partnered the Nad M3 and PSB Imagine T2 with a Cayin CD player! ;D ;D
Nice. Congrats Arn! I'm sure it's a great listen. What did you notice with the change? :)
Post by: gaol on Dec 03, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Nice. Congrats Arn! I'm sure it's a great listen. What did you notice with the change? :)
Yes it is, Ivan. More detailed, considering the Apollo to me sounded detailed already. Overall more involving and musical with the Cayin CD17. Especially the strings, and the piano sounded more realistic, voices sounded more palpable and present, highs sparkling. Bass though with the Apollo seemed a bit tighter.
Actually what spurred the change is when I changed the Rotel 971 CDP in the living room to Cayin Cd50 to match the Primaluna Prologue 2 and SF pre-Home Concertinos. Strangely, I noticed that, while the NAD-PSB-Rega Apollo (and DAC) in the HT room definitely sounded better, I found myself wanting to listen more to the setup in the sala. So I home auditioned the higher end Cayin CDP and liked what I heard.
Post by: Stagea on Dec 03, 2012 at 01:14 PM
Alright, I guess one thing's for sure. Mr. Barton is a round-earther. Just hearing him talk all about psycho-acoustics and his design philosophies makes me interested in his powered speakers. Check out the new PSB Alpha PS1.
It looks like it's competing with the Focal XS Book and the B&W MM-1. :)
Yes it is, Ivan. More detailed, considering the Apollo to me sounded detailed already. Overall more involving and musical with the Cayin CD17. Especially the strings, and the piano sounded more realistic, voices sounded more palpable and present, highs sparkling. Bass though with the Apollo seemed a bit tighter.
Actually what spurred the change is when I changed the Rotel 971 CDP in the living room to Cayin Cd50 to match the Primaluna Prologue 2 and SF pre-Home Concertinos. Strangely, I noticed that, while the NAD-PSB-Rega Apollo (and DAC) in the HT room definitely sounded better, I found myself wanting to listen more to the setup in the sala. So I home auditioned the higher end Cayin CDP and liked what I heard.
Awesome! I'm glad that you found a good pairing for your T2s. :) I hope you give us a chance to hear those next time. :)
Post by: Courage on Dec 03, 2012 at 01:16 PM
Sa totoo lang di ko pa alam. Naghahanap ako ng Musical Fidelity A308 na used, although I might have a go sa A300 in the market right now pag nangati talaga at kinulang sa budget. :D Thinking of getting a NAD din sana lang may lumitaw ulit na Masters series sa MP na used para tipid.
Pareho pala tayo ng inaabangan sa MP... Master Series he he he
Post by: sientobente on Dec 03, 2012 at 02:27 PM
I agree. If I need PC speakers this would be on my shortlist. Magkano kaya and will the local distro bring it in?
master arn, seeing that the local distro-- hifi plus prices their psb products very well i can imagine it will go around the 10-12k range. ganda pala ng plano niyo on your audio setup, pwede sumama kay master ivanpedia when he visits your killer ht and audio? ;D
Post by: Courage on Dec 03, 2012 at 03:15 PM
master arn, seeing that the local distro-- hifi plus prices their psb products very well i can imagine it will go around the 10-12k range. ganda pala ng plano niyo on your audio setup, pwede sumama kay master ivanpedia when he visits your killer ht and audio? ;D
Aba sama din ako dyan.... Matagal ko ng gusto madinig killer HT and Audio setup ni master Arn eh.. Specially the M3 and T2 combo..
Post by: sientobente on Dec 04, 2012 at 02:07 AM
Aba sama din ako dyan.... Matagal ko ng gusto madinig killer HT and Audio setup ni master Arn eh.. Specially the M3 and T2 combo..Mahirap na magkasama tayo, iba maoaudition natin ng di oras, baka mapunta tayo sa cubao area ;) tsaka may phono stage na ba yung M3 para sa iyong vinyl collection? O0
I just read the stereophile's review of the m3. Its power is impressive, it was reported that it can easily power those massive wilson audio maxx2 towers.
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 02:34 AM
Mahirap na magkasama tayo, iba maoaudition natin ng di oras, baka mapunta tayo sa cubao area ;) tsaka may phono stage na ba yung M3 para sa iyong vinyl collection? O0
I just read the stereophile's review of the m3. Its power is impressive, it was reported that it can easily power those massive wilson audio maxx2 towers.
Yup bro... maganda talaga yung M3.. Dual Mono configuration ... panalo talaga.... Sana may magpakawala ulit dito sa MP... Kaso sa mga sinasabi nating ito walang magpapakawala nyan...
Dapat ganito
PANGIT ANG NAD M3... Kaya kung ako sa inyo.. Benta nyo na yan hi hi hi
Post by: armymanhaha on Dec 04, 2012 at 03:25 AM
Post by: Stagea on Dec 04, 2012 at 03:30 AM
PANGIT ANG NAD M3... Kaya kung ako sa inyo.. Benta nyo na yan hi hi hi
Yup pangit yung m3. benta nyo na yan sakin muna haha. :)
Andami palang mahilig sa pangit dito. :P
Post by: gaol on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Awesome! I'm glad that you found a good pairing for your T2s. :) I hope you give us a chance to hear those next time. :)
Aba sama din ako dyan.... Matagal ko ng gusto madinig killer HT and Audio setup ni master Arn eh.. Specially the M3 and T2 combo..
ganda pala ng plano niyo on your audio setup, pwede sumama kay master ivanpedia when he visits your killer ht and audio? ;D
Sure, bros, schedule lang natin. Medyo toxic this season pero baka maisingit one weekend, if not after the holidays! :)
Matagal ko ring plano mapakinggan yung analytical setup mo, Ivan. Curious ako how the Imagines can sound on a setup that leaning towards cool instead of warm. ;D
master arn, seeing that the local distro-- hifi plus prices their psb products very well i can imagine it will go around the 10-12k range.
Mahirap na magkasama tayo, iba maoaudition natin ng di oras, baka mapunta tayo sa cubao area ;) tsaka may phono stage na ba yung M3 para sa iyong vinyl collection? O0
Oo nga, local PSB prices prices are actually very attractive. Ok na ok ang PS1 at that range, compared with the Focals especially.
Wala pa atang phono stage, pero okay lang, ayoko ma-tempt mag vinyl! hehe
Actually malapit lapit lang ang Cubao, kaya pwedeng two birds with one stone! ;D ;D ;D
Dapat ganito
PANGIT ANG NAD M3... Kaya kung ako sa inyo.. Benta nyo na yan hi hi hi
Yup pangit yung m3. benta nyo na yan sakin muna haha. :)
Andami palang mahilig sa pangit dito. :P
Pangit talaga ...dahil silver! Mas gusto ko black. Pero madilim naman sa room at pwedeng pumikit!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 10:20 AM
Reservation List
1. Courage
He he he he
Post by: gaol on Dec 04, 2012 at 02:50 PM
Naku sir Arn... di bagay sayo ang second hand tapos Silver pa? Yuckkkkk.... Wag ka mag alala.. kahit pangit yan pagtyatyagaan ko na
Reservation List
1. Courage
He he he he
Sige pag naglabas ang NAD ng black version ng M3!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 06:18 PM
Sige pag naglabas ang NAD ng black version ng M3!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ha ha ha ha........
Post by: sientobente on Dec 04, 2012 at 06:33 PM
Ha ha ha ha........
Mukhang andyan na ang audio steroids mo ah! O0 post na yan! 8) 8) 8)
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 06:44 PM
Mukhang andyan na ang audio steroids mo ah! O0 post na yan! 8) 8) 8)
Anong pinagsasabi mo... wala akong kinalaman dyan... nasa bahay ako nung nagyari ang Krimen... ha ha ha
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 06:51 PM
I was amazed on how this small can produce big sub sound...
Anybody has this here?
PSB HD10
(http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/fixedscale/400/300/products/2010/12/760/x760HD10-f.jpeg)
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 06:57 PM
Nice bro... set na set ka na... Sleepless nights yan.. pero ilang tulog na lang and youre in Stereo Heaven... Gawa ka na nang Gallery mo pag dumating para documented... 10 years from now pwede mo balikan kung san nagsimula ang lahat he he he PSB + NAD ROCKS BIGTIME....
Ito rin kasi ang setup ni jason sa audio niya. >:D >:D
Post by: sientobente on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:00 PM
I heard this little guy kanina...
I was amazed on how this small can produce big sub sound...
Anybody has this here?
PSB HD10
(http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/fixedscale/400/300/products/2010/12/760/x760HD10-f.jpeg)
i was able to audition that too, really compact and really expensive but can pull out big spl numbers O0
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:01 PM
i was able to audition that too, really compact and really expensive but can pull out big spl numbers O0
Oo brader kala ko nga malaking sub nakakabit kanina eh... Yun pala yung maliit na yan ha ha ha... Sealed sub yan... maganda kaya yan sa Music?
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:02 PM
Ito rin kasi ang setup ni jason sa audio niya. >:D >:D
Hoy Elmira wala akong Audio setup... Yung pang HT ko yun na din sa Audio.. Kayo nina Luwela may mga separate setup kayo.. bigtimer kayo bigtimer.. he he he
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:05 PM
Hoy Elmira wala akong Audio setup... Yung pang HT ko yun na din sa Audio.. Kayo nina Luwela may mga separate setup kayo.. bigtimer kayo bigtimer.. he he he
Wala nga eh lols si louela lang yun at saka ikaw. May LP ka pa nga.
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:06 PM
Wala nga eh lols si louela lang yun at saka ikaw. May LP ka pa nga.
Ampotek na LP yan.. anong gagawin ko dun pamaypay? ha ha ha....
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:08 PM
Ampotek na LP yan.. anong gagawin ko dun pamaypay? ha ha ha....
Bili ka TT so ang new setup mo TT + NA + PSB = seperate audio for jason.
Post by: sientobente on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:11 PM
Oo brader kala ko nga malaking sub nakakabit kanina eh... Yun pala yung maliit na yan ha ha ha... Sealed sub yan... maganda kaya yan sa Music?
yeah, i think most psb subs nowadays are after musicality compared to achieving bottom end performance. it's also evident on their new ported subs(200, 300 and 500). it makes integrating itself into music practically effortless. i think most of the cost in this hd10 comes from that dual radiator technology, kinda similar to don louie's highend golden ear speakers 8)
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:19 PM
yeah, i think most psb subs nowadays are after musicality compared to achieving bottom end performance. it's also evident on their new ported subs(200, 300 and 500). it makes integrating itself into music practically effortless. i think most of the cost in this hd10 comes from that dual radiator technology, kinda similar to don louie's highend golden ear speakers 8)
Mahal nga lang nung HD10... pero ganda ng foot print nya... Sayang di ko na testing sa Audio...Ganda din ng specs ng HD10... 750watts..
Nadinig mo na ba yung Ported 200, 300 at 500 ni PSB?
Post by: sientobente on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:25 PM
Mahal nga lang nung HD10... pero ganda ng foot print nya... Sayang di ko na testing sa Audio...Ganda din ng specs ng HD10... 750watts..
Nadinig mo na ba yung Ported 200, 300 at 500 ni PSB?
yung 200 at 300 lang. they are probably one of the best ported subs i've heard for music. it doesn't sound out of place. super tight(alam mo naman ang hilig natin ;D ), was lightning quick and has great definition. yun lang compared to the older subseries 6i, at 20hz, wala kang marinig at maramdaman.
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:28 PM
Mahal nga lang nung HD10... pero ganda ng foot print nya... Sayang di ko na testing sa Audio...Ganda din ng specs ng HD10... 750watts..
Nadinig mo na ba yung Ported 200, 300 at 500 ni PSB?
Kayang kaya mo yan isang punta mo lang for sure bitbit mo na pauwi yan. :-X :-X
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:31 PM
Kayang kaya mo yan isang punta mo lang for sure bitbit mo na pauwi yan. :-X :-X
Hoy hindi mo ako makukulam dyan ha ha ha...
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:32 PM
yung 200 at 300 lang. they are probably one of the best ported subs i've heard for music. it doesn't sound out of place. super tight(alam mo naman ang hilig natin ;D ), was lightning quick and has great definition. yun lang compared to the older subseries 6i, at 20hz, wala kang marinig at maramdaman.
Naiisip ko mukang masarap i partner yung HD10 sa Imagine B for Audio... Tapos DUAL wow... Pakinggan ko nga yan with Imagine B pag balik ko kina Rex...
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:35 PM
Naiisip ko mukang masarap i partner yung HD10 sa Imagine B for Audio... Tapos DUAL wow... Pakinggan ko nga yan with Imagine B pag balik ko kina Rex...
Sabi ko na wla pa kulam yan sarili niya kinukulam mo. :-X :-X
Post by: sientobente on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:37 PM
Naiisip ko mukang masarap i partner yung HD10 sa Imagine B for Audio... Tapos DUAL wow... Pakinggan ko nga yan with Imagine B pag balik ko kina Rex...
solid yang combination na yan. yung 500 naman hindi na makatarungan yung presyo, nasa svs pb13ultra na lebel na.
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:39 PM
solid yang combination na yan. yung 500 naman hindi na makatarungan yung presyo, nasa svs pb13ultra na lebel na.
Kayang kaya ni jason yan kaya siya kumukuha ng SVS kasi yan ang plan niya bilhin dual pa. :-X :-X
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:39 PM
solid yang combination na yan. yung 500 naman hindi na makatarungan yung presyo, nasa svs pb13ultra na lebel na.
Pag maganda kinalabasan nyan.. Yari na naman.. Tamang tama yung C165BEE may sub out he he he...
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:41 PM
Kayang kaya ni jason yan kaya siya kumukuha ng SVS kasi yan ang plan niya bilhin dual pa. :-X :-X
Hoy di ako kumukuha ng SVS kasi pag Bigtime yun... Mga bigtime members tulad ni Louie(Ito yung may pa EB sa 15 para ipakita yung bago nyang speakers) at Xrampage(Ito yung member na may malambot na Polk)
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:45 PM
Hoy di ako kumukuha ng SVS kasi pag Bigtime yun... Mga bigtime members tulad ni Louie(Ito yung may pa EB sa 15 para ipakita yung bago nyang speakers) at Xrampage(Ito yung member na may malambot na Polk)
Haha bat nasama na naman ung malambot amf.. So eto rin si Courage may audio setup na TT + NAD + PSB + HD10. :-X :-X
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:48 PM
Haha bat nasama na naman ung malambot amf.. So eto rin si Courage may audio setup na TT + NAD + PSB + HD10. :-X :-X
Naku nakakakilabot yang tinatype mo... Di ako makakauwi ng bahay pag bumili ako nyan ha ha ha.. Elmer pakinggan mo yung PSB hindi sya matigas... Malambot din sya parang yung Polk mo ha ha ha
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 07:49 PM
Naku nakakakilabot yang tinatype mo... Di ako makakauwi ng bahay pag bumili ako nyan ha ha ha.. Elmer pakinggan mo yung PSB hindi sya matigas... Malambot din sya parang yung Polk mo ha ha ha
Wag mo ako papakinggan ng mga ganyan speaker at may alergy ako ngayon lalo na sa mas malabot and mas malambing na speaker sa POLK ko. Baka di na ako makalabas ng bahay dahil sa alergy. kailangan ko din ba dalhin yammy ko? >:D >:D
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 08:00 PM
Wag mo ako papakinggan ng mga ganyan speaker at may alergy ako ngayon lalo na sa mas malabot and mas malambing na speaker sa POLK ko. Baka di na ako makalabas ng bahay dahil sa alergy. kailangan ko din ba dalhin yammy ko? >:D >:D
Daan ka sa bahay Elmer.. Listening session tayo.. Di mo na kelangan dalhin Yammy mo kasi parehas lang tunog ng Yammy natin.. Mas malakas yung sayo at mas madaming features.. Eh since 2 channel listening tayo.. di na kelangan extra power ha ha ha
Yung HTPC mo magandang gawing source ng Audio yan.. pero hindi HDMI ang gagamitin natin para mas malinis tumunog
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 04, 2012 at 08:10 PM
Daan ka sa bahay Elmer.. Listening session tayo.. Di mo na kelangan dalhin Yammy mo kasi parehas lang tunog ng Yammy natin.. Mas malakas yung sayo at mas madaming features.. Eh since 2 channel listening tayo.. di na kelangan extra power ha ha ha
Yung HTPC mo magandang gawing source ng Audio yan.. pero hindi HDMI ang gagamitin natin para mas malinis tumunog
Gusto ko matigas.. wahaha >:D >:D
Post by: Courage on Dec 04, 2012 at 08:15 PM
Gusto ko matigas.. wahaha >:D >:D
Wak ka mag alalala... Matigas to... Lalo na sa umaga pag gising ko ha ha ha
Post by: sientobente on Dec 06, 2012 at 01:14 AM
Wak ka mag alalala... Matigas to... Lalo na sa umaga pag gising ko ha ha ha
congrats master jason! review naman ng highend nad separates mo plus t6 :)
Post by: joko11 on Dec 06, 2012 at 02:38 AM
congrats master jason! review naman ng highend nad separates mo plus t6 :)nagtuturo ng hinakot ng may hakot yun pala sya ang maraming hinakot. tsk tsk
Post by: Lynn on Dec 06, 2012 at 03:59 AM
Guys ano sa opinion nyo mas ok para sa NAD o Rotel, Polk o PSB?
Thanks
Post by: Stagea on Dec 06, 2012 at 04:10 AM
Guys narining nyo na ba yun Alpha PS1 powered speaker?
Guys ano sa opinion nyo mas ok para sa NAD o Rotel, Polk o PSB?
Thanks
For me, NAD for both Polk and PSB. Try all the combinations that you can, as what you like may be very different from what I like.
Post by: sientobente on Dec 06, 2012 at 01:04 PM
Guys narining nyo na ba yun Alpha PS1 powered speaker?
Guys ano sa opinion nyo mas ok para sa NAD o Rotel, Polk o PSB?
Thanks
nad and rotel have different sonic characters. same with polk and psb. nad and psb leans towards the warm side while rotel sounds clinical and polk may be a bit bright.
master jason/courage had experience with all those girls, i mean those gears and more. O0
Post by: Lynn on Dec 06, 2012 at 03:27 PM
Post by: armymanhaha on Dec 06, 2012 at 03:32 PM
Post by: Courage on Dec 06, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Before
Yamaha Aventage A2000 + Rega DAC + PSB Image T6 + MF VLink II 192 USB to SPDIF converter + Laptop Source
Now
NAD C165BEE + NAD C275BEE + Rega Dac + PSB Image T6 + MF Vlink II 192 USB/SPDIF Converter + Laptop Source
I'm not saying na pangit yung before when i'm using the AVR to power my T6.. Actually maganda na sya and nag explore lang ako kung may igaganda pa so i decided to buy the NAD separates.
The NOW setup really made my T6 sing beautifully. Cant stop smiling everytime i hit the Play button..
Me and Gerard heard the 165 and 275 with Imagine T2 and it's just so amazing. Ganda ng crispyness ng SQ.. pero again hindi naman nag pahuli ang T6 actually lamang naman sa bass department ang T6. Pero overall department lamang ang T2 but again it costs more than double the price of T6.. So i'll stick sa T6 for now and maybe longer... Planning to get another T6 next year for dedicated Audio... Ayaw kong tanggalin ang T6 sa HT kasi.. It just sound so good he he he...
Post by: mbtorn on Dec 06, 2012 at 06:48 PM
Major improvment for me with regards to two channel listening SQ
Before
Yamaha Aventage A2000 + Rega DAC + PSB Image T6 + MF VLink II 192 USB to SPDIF converter + Laptop Source
Now
NAD C165BEE + NAD C275BEE + Rega Dac + PSB Image T6 + MF Vlink II 192 USB/SPDIF Converter + Laptop Source
I'm not saying na pangit yung before when i'm using the AVR to power my T6.. Actually maganda na sya and nag explore lang ako kung may igaganda pa so i decided to buy the NAD separates.
The NOW setup really made my T6 sing beautifully. Cant stop smiling everytime i hit the Play button..
Me and Gerard heard the 165 and 275 with Imagine T2 and it's just so amazing. Ganda ng crispyness ng SQ.. pero again hindi naman nag pahuli ang T6 actually lamang naman sa bass department ang T6. Pero overall department lamang ang T2 but again it costs more than double the price of T6.. So i'll stick sa T6 for now and maybe longer... Planning to get another T6 next year for dedicated Audio... Ayaw kong tanggalin ang T6 sa HT kasi.. It just sound so good he he he...
Perfect combo ang NAD + PSB. Galing. :)
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 06, 2012 at 06:56 PM
Major improvment for me with regards to two channel listening SQ
Before
Yamaha Aventage A2000 + Rega DAC + PSB Image T6 + MF VLink II 192 USB to SPDIF converter + Laptop Source
Now
NAD C165BEE + NAD C275BEE + Rega Dac + PSB Image T6 + MF Vlink II 192 USB/SPDIF Converter + Laptop Source
I'm not saying na pangit yung before when i'm using the AVR to power my T6.. Actually maganda na sya and nag explore lang ako kung may igaganda pa so i decided to buy the NAD separates.
The NOW setup really made my T6 sing beautifully. Cant stop smiling everytime i hit the Play button..
Me and Gerard heard the 165 and 275 with Imagine T2 and it's just so amazing. Ganda ng crispyness ng SQ.. pero again hindi naman nag pahuli ang T6 actually lamang naman sa bass department ang T6. Pero overall department lamang ang T2 but again it costs more than double the price of T6.. So i'll stick sa T6 for now and maybe longer... Planning to get another T6 next year for dedicated Audio... Ayaw kong tanggalin ang T6 sa HT kasi.. It just sound so good he he he...
natupad boss jason hehe...
sinulat natin yan sa notepad....
sumobra ka lang sa mga nabili
rega and the mf usb
Post by: Courage on Dec 06, 2012 at 08:21 PM
natupad boss jason hehe...
sinulat natin yan sa notepad....
sumobra ka lang sa mga nabili
rega and the mf usb
Actually ang kasama sa Notepad eh NAD C565 BEE na CD player... eh since may DAC naman ako na REGA i choose to get the 515 instead para gawing transport and use REGA as DAC.. Yung MF kaya ko lang nabili yun gawa ng LAPTOP...
Dream come true for me.. suppose to be for next year dapat pero di talaga mapigilan ang lecheng ITCH...
INaaway nga pala ako ni misis nung makita nya ang total BILL ha ha ha ha
Post by: Courage on Dec 06, 2012 at 08:25 PM
Perfect combo ang NAD + PSB. Galing. :)
Yup sir.. It's like they are made for one another... Will probably stay with this combo for a long long time..
Post by: mbtorn on Dec 06, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Yup sir.. It's like they are made for one another... Will probably stay with this combo for a long long time..
Bro., pabulong magkano inabot yung 165 +275 combo, baka puede ko na i-unload ung 725 ko.
Post by: Courage on Dec 06, 2012 at 09:50 PM
Bro., pabulong magkano inabot yung 165 +275 combo, baka puede ko na i-unload ung 725 ko.
Bili na bro di ka mag sisisi he he he... Pero bago pa 725 mo ah.. Ano speaks na gamit mo dyan?
Post by: mbtorn on Dec 07, 2012 at 12:38 AM
Bili na bro di ka mag sisisi he he he... Pero bago pa 725 mo ah.. Ano speaks na gamit mo dyan?
Matagal na ung 725 paired with a 545 cdp ko, kaya looking at an upgrade at NAD pa din siempre. Using the 725 to drive my Klipsch RF-62ii. Mahilig kasi ako sa horns. :D
Post by: meat_eater on Dec 07, 2012 at 02:06 AM
Cheers :)
Post by: Stagea on Dec 07, 2012 at 02:18 AM
Will the Imagine B work well with tube amps? or they prefer high current amps like the Dyns?
Cheers :)
As with most of today's speakers, they measure better with high current amps. However, a tube amp can still work if you like the character of one.
Rex might be able to help you partner them with Cayin gear (or you can bring your components for trial-matching). The imagine B dips to 3 ohms in the mid to bass region, and can get very capacitive. It's recommended to use the 4 ohm tap, if your amp has one.
With a high current amp, one can extract a very clean and neutral output from this speaker:
(http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/209PSBfig5.jpg)
(http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/209PSBfig9.jpg)
(http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/209PSBfig8.jpg)
The only other sub-100k standmount that I've seen measure comparably is the LSiM703.
Post by: resident_evil on Dec 07, 2012 at 02:23 AM
Post by: meat_eater on Dec 07, 2012 at 02:24 AM
As with most of today's speakers, they measure better with high current amps. However, a tube amp can still work if you like the character of one.
Rex might be able to help you partner them with Cayin gear (or you can bring your components for trial-matching).
I'll ask him to connect one to a cayin and then sana ma side by side ko sa Epos epic 2.
hehehe, now there's an excuse to drop by MCS uli :D
Post by: meat_eater on Dec 07, 2012 at 02:25 AM
My Imagine B worked with a 52W Yaqin but at moderate volume. Loved the sound.
:D Hmmm..... must hear na talaga to. hehehehe :D
Post by: Stagea on Dec 07, 2012 at 04:07 AM
I'm not saying na pangit yung before when i'm using the AVR to power my T6.. Actually maganda na sya and nag explore lang ako kung may igaganda pa so i decided to buy the NAD separates.
The NOW setup really made my T6 sing beautifully. Cant stop smiling everytime i hit the Play button..
Me and Gerard heard the 165 and 275 with Imagine T2 and it's just so amazing. Ganda ng crispyness ng SQ.. pero again hindi naman nag pahuli ang T6 actually lamang naman sa bass department ang T6. Pero overall department lamang ang T2 but again it costs more than double the price of T6.. So i'll stick sa T6 for now and maybe longer... Planning to get another T6 next year for dedicated Audio... Ayaw kong tanggalin ang T6 sa HT kasi.. It just sound so good he he he...
Congrats with your new gear, sir. Dedicated audio components are usually of better quality as you pay for fewer features and parts, meaning your money can end up in better components and a superior design.
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 07, 2012 at 05:38 AM
Actually ang kasama sa Notepad eh NAD C565 BEE na CD player... eh since may DAC naman ako na REGA i choose to get the 515 instead para gawing transport and use REGA as DAC.. Yung MF kaya ko lang nabili yun gawa ng LAPTOP...
Dream come true for me.. suppose to be for next year dapat pero di talaga mapigilan ang lecheng ITCH...
INaaway nga pala ako ni misis nung makita nya ang total BILL ha ha ha ha
pasensya na kamo....nagsasama ka sa mangkukulam na katulad ko sa AUDIO haha.....
Post by: luis on Dec 07, 2012 at 04:48 PM
i finished 1 project this year, my 2 channel set-up = imagine b + cayin hybrid h-100. nung narinig ko yung h-100 sa audio amplified di na ako nakarating ng MCS for the NADs.
yung ht set-up ko sa masters bedroom, i am planning to change from 5.1 to 2.1 to declutter. ask ko lang which is better, for this purpose and for 80% music and 20% movies, Image B6 or MA BX2 or something else (around 25K), prefers warm sounding speakers? please recommend. TIA! O0
Post by: luis on Dec 07, 2012 at 04:51 PM
Post by: armymanhaha on Dec 08, 2012 at 10:37 AM
I might end up getting one kasi by the end of the month. Di na ko makapaghintay to get the Musical Fidelity.
Post by: sientobente on Dec 08, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Pa OT lang sandali since madami namang NAD + PSB users dito, what do you think about this review about the NAD 375 here: http://www.whathifi.com/review/nad-c375bee/specs medyo negative yung dating eh.
I might end up getting one kasi by the end of the month. Di na ko makapaghintay to get the Musical Fidelity.
Master, as per ivanpedia the nad 5 series(315,325,375 etc) sounds better than the 6 series(316, 326, 356) because the highs in the 6 series is a bit tamed. This was also evident on my 326 vs my ca 550a where the latter has a better extension in the hf.
Post by: sientobente on Dec 08, 2012 at 11:50 AM
psb teammates good afternoon.
i finished 1 project this year, my 2 channel set-up = imagine b + cayin hybrid h-100. nung narinig ko yung h-100 sa audio amplified di na ako nakarating ng MCS for the NADs.
yung ht set-up ko sa masters bedroom, i am planning to change from 5.1 to 2.1 to declutter. ask ko lang which is better, for this purpose and for 80% music and 20% movies, Image B6 or MA BX2 or something else (around 25K), prefers warm sounding speakers? please recommend. TIA! O0
If you are going to use a tube hybrid amp, my guess is the bx2 might suit you better. I have heard the rx2 with a cayin a100t(not sure of the model but its the high current one) and it sounds very liquid and relaxed. Perfect pangromansa! :)
Post by: Stagea on Dec 09, 2012 at 02:16 PM
Master, as per ivanpedia the nad 5 series(315,325,375 etc) sounds better than the 6 series(316, 326, 356) because the highs in the 6 series is a bit tamed. This was also evident on my 326 vs my ca 550a where the latter has a better extension in the hf.
Baligtad, master. Yung 3x6 series ang hotter ng konti yung highs kesa sa 3x5 series. I prefer the voicing of the 3x5 series, since everything sounds more integrated (especially when matched with older PSBs like the current Imagine, Synchrony and Alpha products). The 3x6 series works well with the new Image series, as those are voiced to work with the 3x6 models.
Post by: Stagea on Dec 09, 2012 at 02:26 PM
Pa OT lang sandali since madami namang NAD + PSB users dito, what do you think about this review about the NAD 375 here: http://www.whathifi.com/review/nad-c375bee/specs medyo negative yung dating eh.
Reviews vary, especially since it's largely subjective. Try it and see if it works for you.
From a measurement standpoint (based on Primedia's numbers), it's hard to do any better at this price.
Post by: resident_evil on Dec 09, 2012 at 02:28 PM
Pa OT lang sandali since madami namang NAD + PSB users dito, what do you think about this review about the NAD 375 here: http://www.whathifi.com/review/nad-c375bee/specs medyo negative yung dating eh.
I might end up getting one kasi by the end of the month. Di na ko makapaghintay to get the Musical Fidelity.
There is an old saying that you should get what you like so you don't end up liking what you get. Reviews help a lot but note that all reviews are system, room, and listener dependent. I recently heard a set up that surprised me. Mostly DIY stuff but it was the sound I was looking for. Clinical but still musical. I suggest you home audition the 375. As for the MF, if that is the same one being sold by Debbie, ask if he can let you audition it. Very nice guy. One of the old timers who know a lot about audio.
Post by: sientobente on Dec 09, 2012 at 02:36 PM
Baligtad, master. Yung 3x6 series ang hotter ng konti yung highs kesa sa 3x5 series. I prefer the voicing of the 3x5 series, since everything sounds more integrated (especially when matched with older PSBs like the current Imagine, Synchrony and Alpha products). The 3x6 series works well with the new Image series, as those are voiced to work with the 3x6 models.
so master that means in hf extension cambridge > 3x6 > 3x5? but yeah a wider hf extension doesn't necessarily translate to a better sounding equipment. gear matching pa rin O0
Post by: Stagea on Dec 09, 2012 at 04:34 PM
so master that means in hf extension cambridge > 3x6 > 3x5? but yeah a wider hf extension doesn't necessarily translate to a better sounding equipment. gear matching pa rin O0
All have good extension, but it's hard to prevent a mild emphasis in certain frequencies. Old NADs had strong bottom end response, with a very mild but audible rolloff in HF. This, together with their good dynamic reserve made them act like big amps when it comes to transients and give off a fairly forgiving sound. A lot of other brands have the same thing going on in one form or another.
NAD tried to go for a more neutral character with the 3x6 series, but the change just didn't come out to my preference. The extra sparkle sometimes sound a bit artificial to my ears (a bit out of place), as the midrange still lacks the bite of an aggressive-sounding amplifier. They're still good amplifiers, I just find the 3x5 models more coherent from top to bottom, especially when partnered with the Imagine line.
The current Image line is voiced for the 3x6 amps on the other hand (afaik), which can make them sound a tad dark with 3x5 components.
Post by: sientobente on Dec 10, 2012 at 02:36 AM
All have good extension, but it's hard to prevent a mild emphasis in certain frequencies. Old NADs had strong bottom end response, with a very mild but audible rolloff in HF. This, together with their good dynamic reserve made them act like big amps when it comes to transients and give off a fairly forgiving sound. A lot of other brands have the same thing going on in one form or another.
NAD tried to go for a more neutral character with the 3x6 series, but the change just didn't come out to my preference. The extra sparkle sometimes sound a bit artificial to my ears (a bit out of place), as the midrange still lacks the bite of an aggressive-sounding amplifier. They're still good amplifiers, I just find the 3x5 models more coherent from top to bottom, especially when partnered with the Imagine line.
The current Image line is voiced for the 3x6 amps on the other hand (afaik), which can make them sound a tad dark with 3x5 components.
ayun pala, paging master jason. bagay na bagay pala dyan sa xx5 separates mo ang psb imagine O0
Post by: rexFi on Dec 10, 2012 at 07:52 PM
Any tips on how to remove the Grills?
TIA.
Post by: sientobente on Dec 10, 2012 at 08:13 PM
AND we're back with discussing the Alpha B1s :D
Any tips on how to remove the Grills?
TIA.
that was my problem too ;D, according to this article, you have to have a small enough to slide through the edges to pry it off.
http://www.psbspeakers.com/articles/GS-Review---Alpha-B1
Post by: armymanhaha on Dec 12, 2012 at 06:33 AM
Reviews vary, especially since it's largely subjective. Try it and see if it works for you.
From a measurement standpoint (based on Primedia's numbers), it's hard to do any better at this price.
Yeah... I just realized that WHF has component rack reviews on how they sound. I'd understand speaker stand reviews. Call me ignorant but component rack reviews sound a bit too crazy for me. :D
I think the 375bee review from WHF was just bad subjective taste (and possibly looks).
Post by: Stagea on Dec 12, 2012 at 06:59 AM
I think the 375bee review from WHF was just bad subjective taste (and possibly looks).
WHF is about subjective reviews (listening tests). They very rarely measure stuff nowadays.
Imo, they have shifted from a legit HiFi publication to something closer to T3. I'm not even sure how much time they spend with each particular product nowadays. They do have good people there who really care. I just think that the magazine is going this direction to survive. I sure hope that they don't end up like Top Gear in the process (more entertainment, less information).
Post by: sgxp on Dec 12, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Post by: sientobente on Dec 12, 2012 at 10:36 AM
WHF is about subjective reviews (listening tests). They very rarely measure stuff nowadays.
Imo, they have shifted from a legit HiFi publication to something closer to T3. I'm not even sure how much time they spend with each particular product nowadays. They do have good people there who really care. I just think that the magazine is going this direction to survive. I sure hope that they don't end up like Top Gear in the process (more entertainment, less information).
I thought you are gonna say WHF is like FHM in reviewing gears. They'd better focus on featuring more skin in their mags than add substandard reviews in their pages ;D
Post by: Stagea on Dec 12, 2012 at 01:52 PM
I thought you are gonna say WHF is like FHM in reviewing gears. They'd better focus on featuring more skin in their mags than add substandard reviews in their pages ;D
No naman. They actually have nice people there. Sa forums nila ako active bago ko nadiscover ang PDVD. Very accessible and down to earth mga reviewers and experts ng Haymarket Media doon.
Post by: melbourne on Dec 14, 2012 at 10:04 AM
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt266/raidermel/12112012627.jpg)
Post by: Courage on Dec 14, 2012 at 10:31 AM
I've been doing good this year so Santa left something for me at my doorstep.
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt266/raidermel/12112012627.jpg)
Uyyyy bro congrats... Finally dumating na din pinakaiintay mo.... I bet excited ka na na ma setup at madinig yan... Congrats.... NAD+PSB = ROCKS BIG TIME!!!!!!
Post by: melbourne on Dec 14, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Uyyyy bro congrats... Finally dumating na din pinakaiintay mo.... I bet excited ka na na ma setup at madinig yan... Congrats.... NAD+PSB = ROCKS BIG TIME!!!!!!
Thank you bro for leading me to this wonderful amp and speaker combo. Certified mangkukulam ka na at taga mindanao pa ang nakulam mo hehehe. Special thanks also to Mikeer2002ph, Stagea and raider125jeigh for answering my querries before i decide to make this purchase. To Rex of Watt Hifi for a very smooth transaction and bringing this combo at my doorstep.
Post by: Courage on Dec 14, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Thank you bro for leading me to this wonderful amp and speaker combo. Certified mangkukulam ka na at taga mindanao pa ang nakulam mo hehehe. Special thanks also to Mikeer2002ph, Stagea and raider125jeigh for answering my querries before i decide to make this purchase. To Rex of Watt Hifi for a very smooth transaction and bringing this combo at my doorstep.
Naka setup na ba brader?.. Aba gawa ka na ng gallery mo he he he... Yung akin naka setup temorarily sa kwarto dahil di na ako makatiis ng di ko naririnig araw araw... Post mo picture ng nakaayos na he he he... Napahanga ako ng speaker mo.. Nung isang araw pinakinggan ko yang katulad ng setup mo kina rex... Dami ding humanga na bumibili ng cd...
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 14, 2012 at 11:01 AM
comision ko...audition dyan sa place nyo hahaha...
pagmay time mapuntahan kita at makapagAudition hehe
melbourne @ hahaha....dapat YAMAHA R15 na motor yan - napunta sa audio hehe
tingnan mo ako...hindi na active sa MotorCyclePhilippines hihihi
Post by: Courage on Dec 14, 2012 at 11:06 AM
REX oh.....NADale na pala....ayan ung sinasabi ko sayo ung XMAS EB na kukuha...hihihi...
comision ko...audition dyan sa place nyo hahaha...
pagmay time mapuntahan kita at makapagAudition hehe
melbourne @ hahaha....dapat YAMAHA R15 na motor yan - napunta sa audio hehe
tingnan mo ako...hindi na active sa MotorCyclePhilippines hihihi
Mas safe ang odyo hobby kesa pag momotor... Naging hobby ko din yan nung year 1998 - 2000.... Uso pa mga illegal racing ng motor.. Until now buhay pa din motor ko sa lipa kaso di ko na nagagamit he he he
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 14, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Mas safe ang odyo hobby kesa pag momotor... Naging hobby ko din yan nung year 1998 - 2000.... Uso pa mga illegal racing ng motor.. Until now buhay pa din motor ko sa lipa kaso di ko na nagagamit he he hehehe....ako commuters nalang...hindi na nakakapagset ng ride hehe..
mas masarap sa bahay - hindi pagod...sarap pa mag audio at mag HT
Post by: sientobente on Dec 14, 2012 at 11:15 AM
I've been doing good this year so Santa left something for me at my doorstep.
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt266/raidermel/12112012627.jpg)
congrats sir! merry xmas! 8)
Post by: melbourne on Dec 14, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Naka setup na ba brader?.. Aba gawa ka na ng gallery mo he he he... Yung akin naka setup temorarily sa kwarto dahil di na ako makatiis ng di ko naririnig araw araw... Post mo picture ng nakaayos na he he he... Napahanga ako ng speaker mo.. Nung isang araw pinakinggan ko yang katulad ng setup mo kina rex... Dami ding humanga na bumibili ng cd...
Na set-up ko na kagabi brader pero temporary pa. And what more can i say, NAD & PSB combo surpasses my expectations. My wife is very happy playing her favorite Scotty McCreery CD last night.
Post by: melbourne on Dec 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM
REX oh.....NADale na pala....ayan ung sinasabi ko sayo ung XMAS EB na kukuha...hihihi...
comision ko...audition dyan sa place nyo hahaha...
pagmay time mapuntahan kita at makapagAudition hehe
melbourne @ hahaha....dapat YAMAHA R15 na motor yan - napunta sa audio hehe
tingnan mo ako...hindi na active sa MotorCyclePhilippines hihihi
Oo nga brader derrick from this
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt266/raidermel/402207_107092902747223_100003395405326_38865_243592737_n1.jpg)
to this
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt266/raidermel/12112012627.jpg)
dalawa na tayo hindi active sa MCP hehehe.
Post by: melbourne on Dec 14, 2012 at 11:34 AM
congrats sir! merry xmas! 8)
Thank you bro Gerard. Your comment regarding NAD375bee & PSB Imagine B combo made my decision easier.
Post by: otep_32 on Dec 14, 2012 at 12:22 PM
Thank you bro for leading me to this wonderful amp and speaker combo. Certified mangkukulam ka na at taga mindanao pa ang nakulam mo hehehe. Special thanks also to Mikeer2002ph, Stagea and raider125jeigh for answering my querries before i decide to make this purchase. To Rex of Watt Hifi for a very smooth transaction and bringing this combo at my doorstep.Thank u sir. We appreciate your trust & your recent order for the nad+psb combo.Thanks again, for your business.
Post by: otep_32 on Dec 14, 2012 at 12:27 PM
REX oh.....NADale na pala....ayan ung sinasabi ko sayo ung XMAS EB na kukuha...hihihi...thank you sir,pasyal k lng dto.coffe tau ;D
comision ko...audition dyan sa place nyo hahaha...
pagmay time mapuntahan kita at makapagAudition hehe
melbourne @ hahaha....dapat YAMAHA R15 na motor yan - napunta sa audio hehe
tingnan mo ako...hindi na active sa MotorCyclePhilippines hihihi
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 14, 2012 at 12:28 PM
thank you sir,pasyal k lng dto.coffe tau ;Dmay kasamang donut yan? parang nung pagpunta namin ni jason hahaha....
naalala ko ung audition at pagbili namin ni jason...nakalimutan na namin kumain...deputa hahaha
Post by: Courage on Dec 14, 2012 at 01:57 PM
thank you sir,pasyal k lng dto.coffe tau ;D
Oii sama ako dyan... Masarap makinig habang may Kape... aba at kung sasamahan pa ng Donut eh mas maganda ha ha ha
Post by: sientobente on Dec 14, 2012 at 08:57 PM
Thank you bro Gerard. Your comment regarding NAD375bee & PSB Imagine B combo made my decision easier.
You're welcome. We really love the PSB sound and we're sure we will never be embarrassed by recommending it. 8)
Post by: melbourne on Dec 15, 2012 at 10:15 AM
You're welcome. We really love the PSB sound and we're sure we will never be embarrassed by recommending it. 8)
Yes bro i love the sound of PSB & NAD combo. Successive 2 days na ako late for work dahil nakikinig muna ako ng music before going to office hehehe. Music with this combo is very addicting.
Post by: Courage on Dec 15, 2012 at 10:37 AM
Yes bro i love the sound of PSB & NAD combo. Successive 2 days na ako late for work dahil nakikinig muna ako ng music before going to office hehehe. Music with this combo is very addicting.
Thats exactly what i keep on saying..... NAD + PSB sound is very addicting he he he...
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 15, 2012 at 10:50 AM
Thats exactly what i keep on saying..... NAD + PSB sound is very addicting he he he...
Adik ka lang talaga... Hehehe ;D
Post by: Courage on Dec 15, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Adik ka lang talaga... Hehehe ;D
Hindi pa ako makaalis ng bahay tagal ni misis eh... kaya Odyo time muna... Addik mode ha ha ha
Post by: Valiente on Dec 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Post by: Courage on Dec 15, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Excuse me guys, what is the cheapest NAD+PSB setup for music? Please suggest. Thank you!
How much is your budget?
Post by: melbourne on Dec 15, 2012 at 02:33 PM
Adik ka lang talaga... Hehehe ;D
Adik talaga yan. Pati ako nahawa na hahaha. Parati nalang late ako dumating sa office. Kasalanan mo to Jason hahaha.
Post by: noelbantoc on Dec 15, 2012 at 03:09 PM
Excuse me guys, what is the cheapest NAD+PSB setup for music? Please suggest. Thank you!
Hi sir try I Alpha B1 or Image B5 with NAD 316 or PSB Image B6 with NAD 326. I think this offer to you is chepest price but guarantee ok. if you like visit our store at AUDIBLE ILLUSIONS at 50D timog qc,
Post by: Valiente on Dec 15, 2012 at 06:58 PM
Hi sir try I Alpha B1 or Image B5 with NAD 316 or PSB Image B6 with NAD 326. I think this offer to you is chepest price but guarantee ok. if you like visit our store at AUDIBLE ILLUSIONS at 50D timog qc,
Nice. Is your store close to any of MRT Station? Or do you have a branch near Makati?
Post by: Courage on Dec 15, 2012 at 07:05 PM
Nice. Is your store close to any of MRT Station? Or do you have a branch near Makati?
Try watt hi if at makati cinema square.. Look for Rex. He will give you a good price on NAD and PSB combo
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 15, 2012 at 07:13 PM
Try watt hi if at makati cinema square.. Look for Rex. He will give you a good price on NAD and PSB combo
I just heard this combo and i'd have to agree that NAD + PSB is a wonderful match. jason, bat ala ka kanina?
Post by: sientobente on Dec 15, 2012 at 10:58 PM
I just heard this combo and i'd have to agree that NAD + PSB is a wonderful match. jason, bat ala ka kanina?
sayang di nadala ni master jason yung kanyang highend super separates. yun ang flagship nad+psb setup 8)
Post by: Courage on Dec 15, 2012 at 11:02 PM
sayang di nadala ni master jason yung kanyang highend super separates. yun ang flagship nad+psb setup 8)
Hoy hindi high end yun... Master series ang high end ng nad......normal end lang yung akin..
Post by: Courage on Dec 15, 2012 at 11:03 PM
I just heard this combo and i'd have to agree that NAD + PSB is a wonderful match. jason, bat ala ka kanina?
Natraffic brader sobra...
Post by: Valiente on Dec 16, 2012 at 12:17 PM
Post by: Courage on Dec 16, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Seems PSB and NAD is a match made in heaven, right? Can you please describe how it sound?
Warm.. and relaxing without loosing details.... Di sya tiring pakinggan malakas man or mahina ang volume... Addicting sound..
Post by: sientobente on Dec 16, 2012 at 12:27 PM
Seems PSB and NAD is a match made in heaven, right? Can you please describe how it sound?
PSB mostly leans toward warm sounding while still exhibiting a detailed extension in the HF even in it's lower lines. While NAD gives good weight in the bottom end and provides that punchy dynamics that makes PSB speakers sound beautiful. If you have time to try it out, I suggest you hear it by yourself. I'm sure Sir Rex of What Hifi in Makati Cinema Square will be happy to let those gears be auditioned to your heart's content. ;)
Post by: Valiente on Dec 16, 2012 at 03:55 PM
Warm.. and relaxing without loosing details.... Di sya tiring pakinggan malakas man or mahina ang volume... Addicting sound..It's nice to know that they are warm. Long listening sessions will be made if the sound is non-fatiguing. Bright speakers are fatiguing. So since they are warm, are they good for vocals?
Post by: sientobente on Dec 16, 2012 at 04:20 PM
It's nice to know that they are warm. Long listening sessions will be made if the sound is non-fatiguing. Bright speakers are fatiguing. So since they are warm, are they good for vocals?
warm is mostly it's sonic signature. the really nice thing about psb speakers is it's excellent flat frequency response. it's balanced and lacks much coloration. here's the lab measures on the psb image t6
(http://www.soundstagenetwork.com/measurements/speakers/psb_image_t6/frequency_on1530.gif)
on an anechoic chamber
(http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/6610PSBfig5.jpg)
this means, it plays the material the way how it was recorded. so if it's a vocally engaging music, then you'll find what you're looking for and more ;)
Post by: Courage on Dec 16, 2012 at 04:44 PM
It's nice to know that they are warm. Long listening sessions will be made if the sound is non-fatiguing. Bright speakers are fatiguing. So since they are warm, are they good for vocals?
Oh yes they are very good for vocals....
Post by: Valiente on Dec 16, 2012 at 08:49 PM
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 16, 2012 at 09:25 PM
psb was warm sounding not on the bright side....
Post by: jhelenz on Dec 17, 2012 at 12:29 AM
Post by: Stagea on Dec 17, 2012 at 02:50 AM
As far my reading goes, American and Canadian speakers like Paradigm, Klipsch and so with PSB are bright sounding speakers, forward sounding, more on treble side while European speakers are dark sounding and laid back. What is something with NAD that it turn the PSB into warm sounding and engaging speakers? I am expecting that the sound will be bright like Paradigm.
PSB speakers are voiced very differently from Paradigm's designs. Paradigm tends to significantly elevate the bass and treble regions for most of its speakers, while PSB tends to go after a more neutral balance.
Post by: sientobente on Dec 17, 2012 at 03:47 AM
As far my reading goes, American and Canadian speakers like Paradigm, Klipsch and so with PSB are bright sounding speakers, forward sounding, more on treble side while European speakers are dark sounding and laid back. What is something with NAD that it turn the PSB into warm sounding and engaging speakers? I am expecting that the sound will be bright like Paradigm.Watt Hifi in MCS carries both paradigm and psb as well as other speakers. Try to audition them so you would be able to hear the difference. I'm sure you'd find them hardly similar.
Post by: armymanhaha on Dec 17, 2012 at 03:50 AM
hi, tanong ko lang kung ano mas babagay na amp for psb b25,nad 316 or yaqin VK2100 .i listen mostly to vocals,light jazz and some pop music.thanks
I did have the chance to use a Yaqin vk2100 with a Dynaudio Audience 42. It was a tough load @ 4ohms and 86db for any whimpy amplifier, but the Yaqin drove it effortlessly. I compared it side-by-side with my Rotel RA-1520 and I found that the only advantage the Rotel has is ambience retrieval. Since the Yaqins are dirt cheap, I'd actually recommend it not unless you can dish out more cash for an amp.
As for the 316+b25 pairing, there are plenty people recommending the NAD-PSB combo.
Post by: Valiente on Dec 17, 2012 at 04:50 PM
Post by: sientobente on Dec 17, 2012 at 07:44 PM
It's time to audition the NAD & PSB combo.
Enjoy your listening session :) Try other brands too and share with us your impressions.
Post by: resident_evil on Dec 17, 2012 at 07:54 PM
As far my reading goes, American and Canadian speakers like Paradigm, Klipsch and so with PSB are bright sounding speakers, forward sounding, more on treble side while European speakers are dark sounding and laid back. What is something with NAD that it turn the PSB into warm sounding and engaging speakers? I am expecting that the sound will be bright like Paradigm.
I have tried the PSB Imagine Bs with different amps such as NAD, Rega Brio R, CJ, Yaqin, Emotiva. Never sounded bright to me.
Post by: Courage on Dec 17, 2012 at 08:05 PM
It's time to audition the NAD & PSB combo.
Enjoy sir... Let us know your feedback on the combo...
Post by: Courage on Dec 17, 2012 at 08:07 PM
As far my reading goes, American and Canadian speakers like Paradigm, Klipsch and so with PSB are bright sounding speakers, forward sounding, more on treble side while European speakers are dark sounding and laid back. What is something with NAD that it turn the PSB into warm sounding and engaging speakers? I am expecting that the sound will be bright like Paradigm.
I have a Yamaha receiver which sounded bright to me. I paired it with Polk and cant stand the trebel at high volumes. When i paired it PSB Image nawala yung brightness nung Yamaha.. Naging relaxing and warm.. Lalong nag improve nung nilagay ko na yung PSB sa NAD..
Post by: sientobente on Dec 17, 2012 at 08:11 PM
Post by: Courage on Dec 17, 2012 at 08:13 PM
same feedback, i used nad, cambridge audio, onkyo, denon and pioneer on my T6. warmth was evident on all 5 amps.
Anak ng teteng ang dami mong AMP ha ha ha...
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 17, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Anak ng teteng ang dami mong AMP ha ha ha...
Yan ang mga ingat yaman ni Master Gerard...
Yung Montero nga ginagawang chubibo eh ;D
Seriously @valiente, try to audition the PSB Imagine T2 + NAD amp combo in Watt Hifi ;)
Post by: sientobente on Dec 17, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Anak ng teteng ang dami mong AMP ha ha ha...
puro mga el cheapo lang naman di gaya ng mga highend amps mo idol ;)
Post by: bartender on Dec 17, 2012 at 10:50 PM
puro mga el cheapo lang naman di gaya ng mga highend amps mo idol ;)
+1
Post by: sientobente on Dec 17, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Yan ang mga ingat yaman ni Master Gerard...
Yung Montero nga ginagawang chubibo eh ;D
Seriously @valiente, try to audition the PSB Imagine T2 + NAD amp combo in Watt Hifi ;)
napagoogle ako kung anu yung chubibo. ferris wheel pala. hehehe. nakakahiya naman kay Don Master Louie yung kotse ko, ferris wheel :( akala ko pa naman "bangbus"
And yes, try to audition that setup, best heard with the super highend separates like what Don Master Jason has. ;)
Post by: sientobente on Dec 17, 2012 at 10:58 PM
+1
Good evening master, kamusta yung inyong T6?
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 17, 2012 at 10:59 PM
napagoogle ako kung anu yung chubibo. ferris wheel pala. hehehe. nakakahiya naman kay Don Master Louie yung kotse ko, ferris wheel :( akala ko pa naman "bangbus"
And yes, try to audition that setup, best heard with the super highend separates like what Don Master Jason has. ;)
Hehehe...
Loko ka Master G.
Yan nga ang dream car ko eh. Si misis lang kasi hindi inaprub, hehehe.
Panay nga himas ko dyan bawat baba ko nung EB eh ;D
Post by: bartender on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:02 PM
Good evening master, kamusta yung inyong T6?
Hahaha. Pang HT yun. Okay naman. Sorang happy. Sa audio AM transistor lang ako. Si Rex talaga, oo.
Post by: sientobente on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:05 PM
Hehehe...
Loko ka Master G.
Yan nga ang dream car ko eh. Si misis lang kasi hindi inaprub, hehehe.
Panay nga himas ko dyan bawat baba ko nung EB eh ;D
nyarks. ht setup mo palang don louie, makakabili na ng 5 montero. papaano pa yung audio setup? isang brand new mansion ang katapat ;)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:06 PM
nyarks. ht setup mo palang don louie, makakabili na ng 5 montero. papaano pa yung audio setup? isang brand new mansion ang katapat ;)
Bwahahaha...
Ibang klase talaga exchange rate mo Master G... ;D
Post by: bartender on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:06 PM
nyarks. ht setup mo palang don louie, makakabili na ng 5 montero. papaano pa yung audio setup? isang brand new mansion ang katapat ;)
Tumama ng Lotto ya si Louie :))
Post by: Courage on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:11 PM
Hahaha. Pang HT yun. Okay naman. Sorang happy. Sa audio AM transistor lang ako. Si Rex talaga, oo.
Anak ng patis naka T6 ka pala....... CONGRATS....
Post by: bartender on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:13 PM
Anak ng patis naka T6 ka pala....... CONGRATS....
Matagal na yan. May Sansui at Pionner pa yan. Pareho lang tayo. Pero wala ako high-end na NAD!
Post by: Courage on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Matagal na yan. May Sansui at Pionner pa yan. Pareho lang tayo. Pero wala ako high-end na NAD!
Sino ba may High End na NAD dito.. Si Master Arn yun... Naka M3 yun... Yung akin Normal End yun... Puro kalokohan lang yang si Gerard wak ka maniniwala dyan..
Post by: bartender on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:16 PM
Sino ba may High End na NAD dito.. Si Master Arn yun... Naka M3 yun... Yung akin Normal End yun... Puro kalokohan lang yang si Gerard wak ka maniniwala dyan..
Isang taon ako di kakain para magkaron ng meron ka.
Post by: Courage on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:19 PM
Isang taon ako di kakain para magkaron ng meron ka.
Aba simula nung binili ko hanggang ngayon panay Tubig lang ako ha ha ha... Pag sobrang gutom na at di na kaya... Papel naman tinitira ko tutal hindi naman toxic ang papel at galing sya sa Plants.. so para na din akong kumain ng gulay wahahahaha
Post by: bartender on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:20 PM
Aba simula nung binili ko hanggang ngayon panay Tubig lang ako ha ha ha... Pag sobrang gutom na at di na kaya... Papel naman tinitira ko tutal hindi naman toxic ang papel at galing sya sa Plants.. so para na din akong kumain ng gulay wahahahaha\\Mas healthy ang karton kesa sa papel. :))
Post by: Courage on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:22 PM
\\Mas healthy ang karton kesa sa papel. :))
Paubos ko na nga yung Karton nung NAD ha ha ha........ Yung Styro akala ko edible... hindi pala... Styro pa din nung lumabas wahahaha
Post by: bartender on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:24 PM
Paubos ko na nga yung Karton nung NAD ha ha ha........ Yung Styro akala ko edible... hindi pala... Styro pa din nung lumabas wahahaha
May karton ako ng T6 at B6, gusto mo?
Post by: Courage on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:26 PM
May karton ako ng T6 at B6, gusto mo?
Ha ha ha... pwede ha ha ha....
Post by: bartender on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:27 PM
Ha ha ha... pwede ha ha ha....
Palit sa bagong amp mo? :P
Post by: sientobente on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:29 PM
Sino ba may High End na NAD dito.. Si Master Arn yun... Naka M3 yun... Yung akin Normal End yun... Puro kalokohan lang yang si Gerard wak ka maniniwala dyan..
Ibang klase talaga si Don Master Jason, NORMAL palang daw sa kanya yung super highend NAD separates niya na never ko maafford sa buong buhay ko kahit tumira ako sa karton. O0
Post by: bartender on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:32 PM
Ibang klase talaga si Don Master Jason, NORMAL palang daw sa kanya yung super highend NAD separates niya na never ko maafford sa buong buhay ko kahit tumira ako sa karton. O0
Naririnig ko pa lang ang separate, nangingig na ako sa kaba.
Post by: Courage on Dec 17, 2012 at 11:32 PM
Ibang klase talaga si Don Master Jason, NORMAL palang daw sa kanya yung super highend NAD separates niya na never ko maafford sa buong buhay ko kahit tumira ako sa karton. O0
Hoy Gerard tumigil ka... Ang asikasuhin mo eh yung availability ng Condo ha ha ha
Post by: sumaskido on Dec 18, 2012 at 04:17 PM
Post by: Courage on Dec 18, 2012 at 04:46 PM
mga master tanong ko lang po kung compatible po ang onkyo txn609 sa PSB image t5? compare ko din po ang psb image sa polk rti series, infinity prmus and wharf diamond, kung alin po ang ok sa tunog 60/40 movies/music. thanks mga master
Ok na ok yan with your Onkyo bro..
Post by: sientobente on Dec 18, 2012 at 06:18 PM
mga master tanong ko lang po kung compatible po ang onkyo txn609 sa PSB image t5? compare ko din po ang psb image sa polk rti series, infinity prmus and wharf diamond, kung alin po ang ok sa tunog 60/40 movies/music. thanks mga master
yup sir, bagay yan plus i'm sure peanuts lang kay 609 to power the t5. :) my old 608 can power my t6 very well even in "thx" reference level decibels. the t6 was measured to have a 91db sensitivity, i'm guessing the t5 may even have better sensitivity than that. so yeah, that's going to be a good combination.
tanong niyo din si master jason what he thinks of his polk rti. ;)
Post by: Courage on Dec 18, 2012 at 06:36 PM
yup sir, bagay yan plus i'm sure peanuts lang kay 609 to power the t5. :) my old 608 can power my t6 very well even in "thx" reference level decibels. the t6 was measured to have a 91db sensitivity, i'm guessing the t5 may even have better sensitivity than that. so yeah, that's going to be a good combination.
tanong niyo din si master jason what he thinks of his polk rti. ;)
Di ko narinig ang Polk on an Onkyo receiver.. I can only speak for it with a Yamaha receiver eh..
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 18, 2012 at 06:44 PM
Di ko narinig ang Polk on an Onkyo receiver.. I can only speak for it with a Yamaha receiver eh..
Si derick ang onkyo polk rti combi diba.
Post by: sientobente on Dec 18, 2012 at 06:45 PM
Di ko narinig ang Polk on an Onkyo receiver.. I can only speak for it with a Yamaha receiver eh..
I think generally the speaker influences most of the sound when it comes to entry level AVRs. I compared Onkyo, Denon and Pioneer(hindi blind test 8) ) and they all sound the same on my T6. Pero iba pa rin talaga ang power ng dedicated amp(power or integrated) but that's another story ;)
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 18, 2012 at 09:14 PM
Si derick ang onkyo polk rti combi diba.uu...hehehe... 805 with rti a
pulubi setup hahaha....
pero ganda sya...
Post by: Courage on Dec 18, 2012 at 09:30 PM
uu...hehehe... 805 with rti a
pulubi setup hahaha....
pero ganda sya...
Pulubi ka dyan..
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Pulubi ka dyan..last 2years setup pa ata ni louie ung setup ko ngayon hahaha...
silver 805 and cherry rti ung set nya before haha..
kating kati ako magka new sub....wala pang pambili ...makautang nga hehehe...
pakingan mo ang opm audiophile ko sa PSB and nad set mo hihihi
Post by: Courage on Dec 18, 2012 at 10:15 PM
last 2years setup pa ata ni louie ung setup ko ngayon hahaha...
silver 805 and cherry rti ung set nya before haha..
kating kati ako magka new sub....wala pang pambili ...makautang nga hehehe...
pakingan mo ang opm audiophile ko sa PSB and nad set mo hihihi
Kaya nga bilisan mo at kating kati na akong gamitin ang CD players ko he he he... dalawa pa man din nagpapasahan lang sa iisang Disc ha ha ha
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 18, 2012 at 10:22 PM
Kaya nga bilisan mo at kating kati na akong gamitin ang CD players ko he he he... dalawa pa man din nagpapasahan lang sa iisang Disc ha ha hawhat time pasok mo bukas? pwede mo na siguro daanan ung bukas sa eastwood....
Post by: Courage on Dec 18, 2012 at 10:28 PM
what time pasok mo bukas? pwede mo na siguro daanan ung bukas sa eastwood....
3 pm pasok ko sa opis.. SO meaning bago mag 3 dadaan ako Libis... Andun ka na ba nun? ano ba sched mo ngayon?
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 18, 2012 at 10:32 PM
3 pm pasok ko sa opis.. SO meaning bago mag 3 dadaan ako Libis... Andun ka na ba nun? ano ba sched mo ngayon?naku alanganin pala....slide ako either 2 - 3 or 4am
uwi ko 11pm or 12pm
Post by: Courage on Dec 18, 2012 at 11:00 PM
naku alanganin pala....slide ako either 2 - 3 or 4am
uwi ko 11pm or 12pm
Alangan nga he he he.. sige text text na lang.. malay mo mapadaan ako sa area mo..
Post by: powershot on Dec 19, 2012 at 03:23 AM
Post by: otep_32 on Dec 19, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Guys ano mas ok Psb B5 or b6 for small bedroom, lalagay ko sa hanging shelf na 12" ang depth. My amp is Nad 316bee.IMO,mids and highs almost the same.mas lamang at mas feel mo ang bass ng b6.
try also alpha b1.if you want to hear those babies,visit watts hifi MCS. ;D
Post by: Courage on Dec 19, 2012 at 07:46 PM
Guys ano mas ok Psb B5 or b6 for small bedroom, lalagay ko sa hanging shelf na 12" ang depth. My amp is Nad 316bee.
Go with the B6 na para mas swabe ang Bass..
Post by: sientobente on Dec 19, 2012 at 08:05 PM
Guys ano mas ok Psb B5 or b6 for small bedroom, lalagay ko sa hanging shelf na 12" ang depth. My amp is Nad 316bee.
hello sir, what's the specific room size? the b6 will have a bigger soundstage than the b5 due to it's larger driver size but i'm thinking if it's based from the depth of the shelf, the b5 would be able to breath better from it's rear port. But I think the deciding factor would really be the room size so we can probably determine if it's going to be enough for your needs.
Post by: Valiente on Dec 20, 2012 at 03:02 PM
If I could bring home the setup I've audition then I could be able to share already the sound of music I am listening daily on my Grado SR60 with my family.
You may ask, what is Grado sound? Grado is an American headphone which is considered by some headphone audiophiles as the gateway drug to audiophile sound. It has a forward midrange, sparkling highs, has right amount of bass. Its negative to some headfiers is the highs sometimes could be piercing which lead to a fatiguing sound. Sometimes I only have short listening sessions on my Grado because sometimes my ears get easily fatigued.
When I auditioned, I was surprised and ask the assistant of otep_32 to verify if the center speaker is having sound. He answered only the bookshelf speakers are creating the sound. This is where the magic of speakers positioning. My headphones could deliver to me the sound through left and right ears, not in front. I was really really amazed when the music was playing over the pair of bookshelf speakers, the singer was simply located in the middle where the center speaker was placed. The singer really came alive out of these speakers. This is what speakers can do that headphones can't. Through headphones I am only listening but with speakers, I am not only listening but I am also experiencing. This is the magic of speakers!
O Holy Night by Celine Dion is smoother on PSB speakers. Though Sir Rex said that the speakers were played for a few hours only and so with the NAD amp. In fact I was satisfied already, hence more satisfaction after full burning. Really it pays to have a room meant for music listening. The equilateral triangle position is very important. The combo sounded better with male singers. Jed Madela and Barry Manilow voices are really fantastic. They can tell the story of the music. Wow! Deeper impressions will follow after I've own a setup already at our home. Please watch out for it guys.
Thanks otep_32 for accommodating me and so with your assistant. ;D
Post by: resident_evil on Dec 20, 2012 at 03:19 PM
Post by: rexFi on Dec 20, 2012 at 06:37 PM
esteh :)
Post by: Courage on Dec 20, 2012 at 06:43 PM
Hello friends, before anything else, let me give my thanks to Sir Rex aka otep_32 of Watt Hifi for giving me the chance to audition a PSB+ NAD setup yesterday 11am. The setup was the entry level PSB Alpha B1, NAD C326BEE amplifier + NAD CD Player as source. My own impressions are: The sound is very similar to my Grado SR60 headphones, in fact I could call it as Grado SR60 version of speakers but with a few slightly differences namely: (1) The highs are more tamed on the PSB speakers (2) the midrange is more forward on Grado SR60 but not that much, making the PSB more balanced sounding
If I could bring home the setup I've audition then I could be able to share already the sound of music I am listening daily on my Grado SR60 with my family.
You may ask, what is Grado sound? Grado is an American headphone which is considered by some headphone audiophiles as the gateway drug to audiophile sound. It has a forward midrange, sparkling highs, has right amount of bass. Its negative to some headfiers is the highs sometimes could be piercing which lead to a fatiguing sound. Sometimes I only have short listening sessions on my Grado because sometimes my ears get easily fatigued.
When I auditioned, I was surprised and ask the assistant of otep_32 to verify if the center speaker is having sound. He answered only the bookshelf speakers are creating the sound. This is where the magic of speakers positioning. My headphones could deliver to me the sound through left and right ears, not in front. I was really really amazed when the music was playing over the pair of bookshelf speakers, the singer was simply located in the middle where the center speaker was placed. The singer really came alive out of these speakers. This is what speakers can do that headphones can't. Through headphones I am only listening but with speakers, I am not only listening but I am also experiencing. This is the magic of speakers!
O Holy Night by Celine Dion is smoother on PSB speakers. Though Sir Rex said that the speakers were played for a few hours only and so with the NAD amp. In fact I was satisfied already, hence more satisfaction after full burning. Really it pays to have a room meant for music listening. The equilateral triangle position is very important. The combo sounded better with male singers. Jed Madela and Barry Manilow voices are really fantastic. They can tell the story of the music. Wow! Deeper impressions will follow after I've own a setup already at our home. Please watch out for it guys.
Thanks otep_32 for accommodating me and so with your assistant. ;D
Very nice review sir.... I bet you're very excited to bring that home... Ilang araw ako di makatulog nung ako yung bibili he he he... Alam ni Rex yun dahil sa dami ng text ko sa kanya wahahahaha....
A few weeks ago sinama ko ang Dad ko which just arrived from the states.. He was amazed with the NAD PSB combo... hinawakan pa nya yung center speakers kasi akala nya dun nanggagaling ang sound he he he..
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 20, 2012 at 06:50 PM
The PSB Alpha B1 really performs beyond its price range.i agree.......
good review from steriophile as well
Post by: sientobente on Dec 20, 2012 at 08:02 PM
glad you liked the nad+psb combo and yes the alpha b1 is a great performer for it's price. i can't think of any other speaker i like on it's level. please keep us posted for more of your updates :)
Post by: Valiente on Dec 21, 2012 at 06:16 AM
Very nice review sir.... I bet you're very excited to bring that home... Ilang araw ako di makatulog nung ako yung bibili he he he... Alam ni Rex yun dahil sa dami ng text ko sa kanya wahahahaha....
A few weeks ago sinama ko ang Dad ko which just arrived from the states.. He was amazed with the NAD PSB combo... hinawakan pa nya yung center speakers kasi akala nya dun nanggagaling ang sound he he he..
Courage, let me tell you that we checked 4 times just to verify if the center speaker is included in producing the music. I let the assistant of otep_32 checked it for 2 times. He said it is not. I asked "Are you sure?" Then I checked it for myself cos I am not believing him. I checked it for 2 times for me too. I was really surprised with it. It was new for me. That situation made me really happy and excited. Impressive speakers. ;D
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 21, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Courage, let me tell you that we checked 4 times just to verify if the center speaker is included in producing the music. I let the assistant of otep_32 checked it for 2 times. He said it is not. I asked "Are you sure?" Then I checked it for myself cos I am not believing him. I checked it for 2 times for me too. I was really surprised with it. It was new for me. That situation made me really happy and excited. Impressive speakers. ;D
Bro with proper positioning most speakers could be able to do that and also where listener position is(sweetspot)...
The difference would be on how well the speakers could project the imaging and how big the soundstage produced is :)
Post by: rexFi on Dec 21, 2012 at 12:34 PM
Post by: otep_32 on Dec 21, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Hello friends, before anything else, let me give my thanks to Sir Rex aka otep_32 of Watt Hifi for giving me the chance to audition a PSB+ NAD setup yesterday 11am. The setup was the entry level PSB Alpha B1, NAD C326BEE amplifier + NAD CD Player as source. My own impressions are: The sound is very similar to my Grado SR60 headphones, in fact I could call it as Grado SR60 version of speakers but with a few slightly differences namely: (1) The highs are more tamed on the PSB speakers (2) the midrange is more forward on Grado SR60 but not that much, making the PSB more balanced soundingThanks for taking time out your time to come to our showroom (Watts Hifi). Glad you liked Psb and Nad combo. Looking forward to deal with you soon :D
If I could bring home the setup I've audition then I could be able to share already the sound of music I am listening daily on my Grado SR60 with my family.
You may ask, what is Grado sound? Grado is an American headphone which is considered by some headphone audiophiles as the gateway drug to audiophile sound. It has a forward midrange, sparkling highs, has right amount of bass. Its negative to some headfiers is the highs sometimes could be piercing which lead to a fatiguing sound. Sometimes I only have short listening sessions on my Grado because sometimes my ears get easily fatigued.
When I auditioned, I was surprised and ask the assistant of otep_32 to verify if the center speaker is having sound. He answered only the bookshelf speakers are creating the sound. This is where the magic of speakers positioning. My headphones could deliver to me the sound through left and right ears, not in front. I was really really amazed when the music was playing over the pair of bookshelf speakers, the singer was simply located in the middle where the center speaker was placed. The singer really came alive out of these speakers. This is what speakers can do that headphones can't. Through headphones I am only listening but with speakers, I am not only listening but I am also experiencing. This is the magic of speakers!
O Holy Night by Celine Dion is smoother on PSB speakers. Though Sir Rex said that the speakers were played for a few hours only and so with the NAD amp. In fact I was satisfied already, hence more satisfaction after full burning. Really it pays to have a room meant for music listening. The equilateral triangle position is very important. The combo sounded better with male singers. Jed Madela and Barry Manilow voices are really fantastic. They can tell the story of the music. Wow! Deeper impressions will follow after I've own a setup already at our home. Please watch out for it guys.
Thanks otep_32 for accommodating me and so with your assistant. ;D
Post by: Courage on Dec 21, 2012 at 01:27 PM
Thanks for taking time out your time to come to our showroom (Watts Hifi). Glad you liked Psb and Nad combo. Looking forward to deal with you soon :D
One of the kulam masters... Well the psb's dont need kulam.. Automatic yun na makukulam ka pag narinig mo... Si rex kukulamin ka nyan sa magandang deal... He he he...
Rex check mo naman price ng nad m51 dac at nad m50 digital music player
Post by: sientobente on Dec 21, 2012 at 02:28 PM
One of the kulam masters... Well the psb's dont need kulam.. Automatic yun na makukulam ka pag narinig mo... Si rex kukulamin ka nyan sa magandang deal... He he he...
Rex check mo naman price ng nad m51 dac at nad m50 digital music player
ibang lebel ka talaga idol, those are really nice gears you are aiming for. lupit nung m51 dac --- 35-bit 844kHz DAC, ngayon lang ako nakakita ng ganyan. plus pwede na pala siyang preamp. nice!
Post by: Courage on Dec 21, 2012 at 04:29 PM
ibang lebel ka talaga idol, those are really nice gears you are aiming for. lupit nung m51 dac --- 35-bit 844kHz DAC, ngayon lang ako nakakita ng ganyan. plus pwede na pala siyang preamp. nice!
Yup.. maganda nga yan... Just simplifying my setup... Gusto ko mag all NAD PSB setup he he he... Maganda rin yung M50 Digital player.... Network Audio Streamer na CD player pa.. wala nga lang DAC kaya kelangan magkasama sila ni M50..
Siguro yung Yamaha lang ang hindi ko papalitan pero plano ko namang kargahan nang NAD T977 7 Channel amp..
Yan ang goal ko sa mga darating na Taon pag hindi nagunaw ang mundo mamaya wahehehehe
Post by: sientobente on Dec 21, 2012 at 06:01 PM
Yup.. maganda nga yan... Just simplifying my setup... Gusto ko mag all NAD PSB setup he he he... Maganda rin yung M50 Digital player.... Network Audio Streamer na CD player pa.. wala nga lang DAC kaya kelangan magkasama sila ni M50..
Siguro yung Yamaha lang ang hindi ko papalitan pero plano ko namang kargahan nang NAD T977 7 Channel amp..
Yan ang goal ko sa mga darating na Taon pag hindi nagunaw ang mundo mamaya wahehehehe
puro mga superhighend equipments yan idol ah? so ibig sabihin synchrony one na din yan?
Post by: Courage on Dec 21, 2012 at 08:41 PM
puro mga superhighend equipments yan idol ah? so ibig sabihin synchrony one na din yan?
Goal lang naman eh... Hindi naman lahat ng Goal natutupad ha ha ha.... Nope ala ako plano mag Sychrony... T2 pwede pa... Pero for now masaya na ako sa T6 he he he
Post by: Tep663 on Jan 05, 2013 at 01:44 PM
Post by: sientobente on Jan 05, 2013 at 04:42 PM
Mga sir is there a big difference between the psb image b6 and b5? Interns of sound and price? Ang na audition ko imagine b6 lang with nad amplifier at watts hifi
I believe there is a difference of 2-3k in price between those two. The B6 having a bigger enclosure and also having a bigger driver(6.5" vs 5.25") sounds larger than the b5, it has a wider soundstage. The B6 is actually meant for larger rooms while the B5 would fit a smaller area well. The difference in sonic character should be minimal as against to comparing a B5 to a B4.
Post by: Courage on Jan 07, 2013 at 03:19 PM
Mga sir is there a big difference between the psb image b6 and b5? Interns of sound and price? Ang na audition ko imagine b6 lang with nad amplifier at watts hifi
So tell us what's your impression sir. And san mo gagamitin for music ba, movies or both?
Post by: Lancito on Jan 12, 2013 at 05:01 PM
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 12, 2013 at 05:08 PM
Where can I audition PSB speakers? Interested to hear the synchrony series. Thanks.
Sir get in touch with Rex (otep_32) of watt hifi.
Post by: Lancito on Jan 12, 2013 at 09:28 PM
Sir get in touch with Rex (otep_32) of watt hifi.
thank you sir.
Post by: Blade on Jan 13, 2013 at 02:09 PM
The PSB Alpha B1 really performs beyond its price range.would love to hear the psb alpha b1 / nad combo...
Post by: Lancito on Jan 14, 2013 at 10:12 AM
Post by: Lynn on Jan 14, 2013 at 04:05 PM
Smell like teen spirit ang benchmark ko pagdating sa ingay, dumi at bigat ng low's. ayun kinaya nya yun tugtog ng hindi nagiging muddy yun sounds. at almost 2pm yun volume nya. nag e-echo na nga sa room ko. need to buy na lang ng acoustic panel para iwas echo...
Maganda ang PSB kung heavy rock ang genre mo... hindi sya nakaka pagod sa tenga, nakaka sindak sya parang kala mo mag distortion na sya pero hindi... attack ka nga dere-derecho... :)
Post by: Lancito on Jan 14, 2013 at 04:18 PM
Post by: Lynn on Jan 14, 2013 at 07:44 PM
would love to hear the psb alpha b1 / nad combo...
Na-try ko ito na combo, NAD 316 and Alpha B1. and yes maganda ng combination ng dalawa para as entry level.
Slight warm to bright ang tunog nya using iPod Classic (lossless file), LOD to 3.5mm connector. although kaya slight bright yun tunog dahil rekta yun speaker wire sa Amp and speaker. pero kung gagamitan ito ng CD player at magandang banana plug, Sulit na sulit...
rated for the price value
Sound-stage - 3/5
Separation - 3/5
Vocals - 3/5
Low's - 3.5/5
Post by: sientobente on Jan 14, 2013 at 08:09 PM
Just got the Image B6, ganda nya hindi ako bitin sa mga music ko (heavy metal to thrash). ganda ng low's grabe parang dalawang sub naririnig ko. issue ko lang eh yun details nya, not unlike sa Tannoy DC4 na detail pero walang bass.
Smell like teen spirit ang benchmark ko pagdating sa ingay, dumi at bigat ng low's. ayun kinaya nya yun tugtog ng hindi nagiging muddy yun sounds. at almost 2pm yun volume nya. nag e-echo na nga sa room ko. need to buy na lang ng acoustic panel para iwas echo...
Maganda ang PSB kung heavy rock ang genre mo... hindi sya nakaka pagod sa tenga, nakaka sindak sya parang kala mo mag distortion na sya pero hindi... attack ka nga dere-derecho... :)
congrats sir. what amp did you partner it with?
Malaki ba sound difference ng Imagine T vs the Image T6 for HT? ano mas okay?
The Image T6 will definitely have an advantage in the low-end. But the Imagine T will sound a lot more crisp and engaging. For HT, I'll vote for the T6 because that bass area will be better appreciated in that application but for music it's the Imagine T for me.
Post by: Lancito on Jan 14, 2013 at 08:48 PM
congrats sir. what amp did you partner it with?
The Image T6 will definitely have an advantage in the low-end. But the Imagine T will sound a lot more crisp and engaging. For HT, I'll vote for the T6 because that bass area will be better appreciated in that application but for music it's the Imagine T for me.
Thanks pero real wood veneer din ba T6? Sexy ng Imagine T eh. I'll be using 2 subs with it so bass won't be a problem. Still will go with the T6 even with dual subs?
Post by: Blade on Jan 14, 2013 at 10:27 PM
Went to Watt Hifi yesterday...sarado. Sumilip nalang ako sa salamin. Ganda ng PSB!pareho tayo bro...was there around 4pm..
hoping to hear a nad316 / psb alpha b1 or image b6 combo...kaso nga close pala pag sunday...
will be back...
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 14, 2013 at 11:06 PM
Na-try ko ito na combo, NAD 316 and Alpha B1. and yes maganda ng combination ng dalawa para as entry level.
Slight warm to bright ang tunog nya using iPod Classic (lossless file), LOD to 3.5mm connector. although kaya slight bright yun tunog dahil rekta yun speaker wire sa Amp and speaker. pero kung gagamitan ito ng CD player at magandang banana plug, Sulit na sulit...
rated for the price value
Sound-stage - 3/5
Separation - 3/5
Vocals - 3/5
Low's - 3.5/5
Sir, i dont think banana plugs will make your system sound less 'bright'. You can use the tone controls of your amp to suit your liking. My 60-watt Rotel was able to drive my psb synchrony bookshelf effortlessly, parang nagsisi nga ko binenta ko pa grrr nangati lang ako magpalit.
Guys other than NAD pala, what other integrated amps do you think can drive our PSB speakers well? I am asking this because I am in the market for one. Budget is below 80k only.
Post by: sientobente on Jan 14, 2013 at 11:33 PM
Thanks pero real wood veneer din ba T6? Sexy ng Imagine T eh. I'll be using 2 subs with it so bass won't be a problem. Still will go with the T6 even with dual subs?
I think the real wood veneer finish starts on the Imagine upwards. If I'm in your position, without skipping a beat I'd choose the Imagine T. It's on a whole different level. The clarity, the crispiness and the finish, it's really amazing. The only thing you have to remember though, the Imagine T may be harder to drive than the Image T6. The T6 can be powered fine even by entry level AVRs.
Sir, i dont think banana plugs will make your system sound less 'bright'. You can use the tone controls of your amp to suit your liking. My 60-watt Rotel was able to drive my psb synchrony bookshelf effortlessly, parang nagsisi nga ko binenta ko pa grrr nangati lang ako magpalit.
Guys other than NAD pala, what other integrated amps do you think can drive our PSB speakers well? I am asking this because I am in the market for one. Budget is below 80k only.
Master, what about trying Cambridge Audio? like the 851a. I think that fits very well beneath your allotted budget. I have a CA+PSB pairing although it's a much lower end one but it works very well. It has retained the warm sound signature PSB has while being able to extend further in the HF than my NAD amp. Don Master Ivan has the highend version of my CA + PSB lineup. ;)
Post by: Lynn on Jan 15, 2013 at 12:56 AM
congrats sir. what amp did you partner it with?
Rotel RA-04SE po.
Post by: Lynn on Jan 15, 2013 at 01:02 AM
Sir, i dont think banana plugs will make your system sound less 'bright'. You can use the tone controls of your amp to suit your liking. My 60-watt Rotel was able to drive my psb synchrony bookshelf effortlessly, parang nagsisi nga ko binenta ko pa grrr nangati lang ako magpalit.
Guys other than NAD pala, what other integrated amps do you think can drive our PSB speakers well? I am asking this because I am in the market for one. Budget is below 80k only.
Ganun po ba... nabigyan po ako ng advice sa HiFi Lounge about sa rekta na wire.
yun una po naka rekta ako at napansin ko ang taas ng treble to the point parang sumisitsit na yun vocals.
then after ko malagyan ng banana plug, ayun po napansin ko hindi na gaano kataas yun mids, at hindi lang po ako yun nakapansin kahit po yun 7yrs old ko na daughter.
any tips kung banana plug ba ang reason o medyo mas matagal ko na nagamit?
Thanks
Post by: Lancito on Jan 15, 2013 at 06:46 AM
I think the real wood veneer finish starts on the Imagine upwards. If I'm in your position, without skipping a beat I'd choose the Imagine T. It's on a whole different level. The clarity, the crispiness and the finish, it's really amazing. The only thing you have to remember though, the Imagine T may be harder to drive than the Image T6. The T6 can be powered fine even by entry level AVRs.
I'm choosing between the T2 and the T. Also, im planning to use the S5 for rears para makatipid magkakaproblema kaya? Moreover, are the Imagine series available in gloss black or walnut in Watt Hifi?
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 15, 2013 at 07:07 AM
Ganun po ba... nabigyan po ako ng advice sa HiFi Lounge about sa rekta na wire.
yun una po naka rekta ako at napansin ko ang taas ng treble to the point parang sumisitsit na yun vocals.
then after ko malagyan ng banana plug, ayun po napansin ko hindi na gaano kataas yun mids, at hindi lang po ako yun nakapansin kahit po yun 7yrs old ko na daughter.
any tips kung banana plug ba ang reason o medyo mas matagal ko na nagamit?
Thanks
i really do not know. thats one hell of a banana plug.
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 15, 2013 at 07:38 AM
Ganun po ba... nabigyan po ako ng advice sa HiFi Lounge about sa rekta na wire.
yun una po naka rekta ako at napansin ko ang taas ng treble to the point parang sumisitsit na yun vocals.
then after ko malagyan ng banana plug, ayun po napansin ko hindi na gaano kataas yun mids, at hindi lang po ako yun nakapansin kahit po yun 7yrs old ko na daughter.
any tips kung banana plug ba ang reason o medyo mas matagal ko na nagamit?
Thanks
I dont doubt you or your little girl, most probably may change siguro yung sound kasi pareho kayo ng napansin but the way i understand it is that banana plugs wont make you system better, it "may" change the sound and its usually for the worse because there is another material in between the wire and the speaker binding post. sabi nga ng experts, the best connection is the most direct one, so the lesser material the signal needs to go through from the receiver/amp to the speaker the better.
baka naman po nasabi nyong bright ang direct wire kasi mas maraming detail, mas emphasized or angat yung highs and when you used a banana plug, nawala yung detalye na yon. tama po ba intindi ko?
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 15, 2013 at 09:17 AM
Post by: Lynn on Jan 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM
I dont doubt you or your little girl, most probably may change siguro yung sound kasi pareho kayo ng napansin but the way i understand it is that banana plugs wont make you system better, it "may" change the sound and its usually for the worse because there is another material in between the wire and the speaker binding post. sabi nga ng experts, the best connection is the most direct one, so the lesser material the signal needs to go through from the receiver/amp to the speaker the better.
baka naman po nasabi nyong bright ang direct wire kasi mas maraming detail, mas emphasized or angat yung highs and when you used a banana plug, nawala yung detalye na yon. tama po ba intindi ko?
Hindi nmn po, mas naging detailed po sya. dalawang fellow natin dito ang nagsabi na I should use pure copper banana plug not the silver one dahil daw po bright na yun sounds, kasi daw kapag silver lalo magiging bright.
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or you may have been pre-conditioned to expect changes, just like what some salesmen do to sell power cables. they tell you what to expect, hence you hear it even though it 'may' not be there.
Hindi nmn po...
Ito po yun pics na gawa gawa kung banana plug. nilagyan ko din mismo ng shrink tube yun banana plug para hindi mangitim yun copper.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/582400_468902606499873_166899614_n.jpg)
Post by: sientobente on Jan 15, 2013 at 11:20 AM
I'm choosing between the T2 and the T. Also, im planning to use the S5 for rears para makatipid magkakaproblema kaya? Moreover, are the Imagine series available in gloss black or walnut in Watt Hifi?
Wow, Mag-Imagine T2 ka na sir. If ever kayo lang ni Boss Don Arn ang meron niyan sa Pilipinas :) For HT listening I don't think that will matter if you are going to use the S5. I'm using an Alpha for my rears and it integrates well naman in surround listening. Best example of surround effects is when I play EA's Fifa in Xbox, where the crowd switches from each speaker if I move the controller around. It was seamless and smooth.
Regarding the color, What Hifi can always order from the local distro, Hifi Plus. The colors I saw personally on the Imagine where Dark Cherry and Piano Black. Among the colors available, I still prefer Dark Cherry because it's attractive, classy and will be easier to maintain than Piano Black.
Post by: sientobente on Jan 15, 2013 at 11:27 AM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/582400_468902606499873_166899614_n.jpg)
Wow, that looks like a nice speaker cable, what are those sir? about copper vs silver, silver has a higher conductivity than copper which may show what master timi was saying that details are laid out better that made them appear bright. Copper on the other hand might have been cutting certain frequencies due to a lesser degree of conductivity and that made the sound a bit more balanced by removing excess clout making details appear better. ;)
Post by: Lynn on Jan 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Wow, that looks like a nice speaker cable, what are those sir? about copper vs silver, silver has a higher conductivity than copper which may show what master timi was saying that details are laid out better that made them appear bright. Copper on the other hand might have been cutting certain frequencies due to a lesser degree of conductivity and that made the sound a bit more balanced by removing excess clout making details appear better. ;)
nalilito na ako... :) Royal cable po, 14awg oxygen free pure copper.
Many thanks po pla sa lahat ng comments, I am still noob on this kind of hobby.
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 15, 2013 at 01:28 PM
Wow, that looks like a nice speaker cable, what are those sir? about copper vs silver, silver has a higher conductivity than copper which may show what master timi was saying that details are laid out better that made them appear bright. Copper on the other hand might have been cutting certain frequencies due to a lesser degree of conductivity and that made the sound a bit more balanced by removing excess clout making details appear better. ;)
I share master Gerard's opinion po about copper and silver properties, though i never thought it would be applicable to banana plugs, but it is a conductor so maybe its also applicable. I dont think i could have explained it better than what is mentioned above so with that i hope you have a better and more informed purchase.
By the way, you mentioned hifi lounge so i am guessing that you are referring to the one in alabang yes?
Post by: Lancito on Jan 15, 2013 at 02:07 PM
Wow, Mag-Imagine T2 ka na sir. If ever kayo lang ni Boss Don Arn ang meron niyan sa Pilipinas :) For HT listening I don't think that will matter if you are going to use the S5. I'm using an Alpha for my rears and it integrates well naman in surround listening. Best example of surround effects is when I play EA's Fifa in Xbox, where the crowd switches from each speaker if I move the controller around. It was seamless and smooth.
Regarding the color, What Hifi can always order from the local distro, Hifi Plus. The colors I saw personally on the Imagine where Dark Cherry and Piano Black. Among the colors available, I still prefer Dark Cherry because it's attractive, classy and will be easier to maintain than Piano Black.
Pero laki price difference ng T2 sa T kaya mas more likely sa T ako. Hindi kaya ng bulsa. Ganda nga cherry pero baka walnut kung meron or black na hindi piano. Image S5 naman sa rears. Panalo!
Post by: sientobente on Jan 15, 2013 at 02:19 PM
nalilito na ako... :) Royal cable po, 14awg oxygen free pure copper.
Many thanks po pla sa lahat ng comments, I am still noob on this kind of hobby.
Pareho lang po tayo na marami pa pong matutunan sa hobby na ito, which makes it a very interesting and enjoyable hobby :) Regarding the cables being oxygen-free, that property was supposed to make cables free from being fire-hazards since without oxygen, fire will die out. wala lang napakwento lang hehe ;D
Post by: Lynn on Jan 15, 2013 at 02:25 PM
I share master Gerard's opinion po about copper and silver properties, though i never thought it would be applicable to banana plugs, but it is a conductor so maybe its also applicable. I dont think i could have explained it better than what is mentioned above so with that i hope you have a better and more informed purchase.
By the way, you mentioned hifi lounge so i am guessing that you are referring to the one in alabang yes?
Opo, Si Johann ang unang nag-advise sa akin. then tiga Wiredstate na ang gamit eh clearaudio at audio research, although Analogue preferred nya. Aware nmn ako sa properties ng conductibility ng Cu and Ag.
Thanks
Post by: Lynn on Jan 15, 2013 at 02:26 PM
Pareho lang po tayo na marami pa pong matutunan sa hobby na ito, which makes it a very interesting and enjoyable hobby :) Regarding the cables being oxygen-free, that property was supposed to make cables free from being fire-hazards since without oxygen, fire will die out. wala lang napakwento lang hehe ;D
Thanks sa input master...
Post by: sientobente on Jan 15, 2013 at 02:34 PM
Thanks sa input master...
naku hindi po ako master, makulit na troll lang po ako dito ;D anu pong source ang ginagamit niyo on your psb setup?
Post by: Lynn on Jan 15, 2013 at 02:44 PM
naku hindi po ako master, makulit na troll lang po ako dito ;D anu pong source ang ginagamit niyo on your psb setup?
Rotel RA-04SE po.
Sharing po some pics:
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/72276_468902499833217_1886470541_n.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/541819_468902549833212_823568812_n.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/580612_468902546499879_984242495_n.jpg)
Thanks!
Post by: sientobente on Jan 15, 2013 at 03:12 PM
Sharing po some pics:ganda talaga ni dark cherry! ;)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/72276_468902499833217_1886470541_n.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/541819_468902549833212_823568812_n.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/580612_468902546499879_984242495_n.jpg)
Thanks!
sa source po is it a cd player, ipod, pc etc. this can also play a big factor on the audio quality lalo na if you are very particular in details ;)
Post by: Lynn on Jan 15, 2013 at 03:41 PM
at shempre bright din ang Digital source not unlike ang Analogue warm sya.
Thanks
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 15, 2013 at 03:57 PM
ganda talaga ni dark cherry! ;)
sa source po is it a cd player, ipod, pc etc. this can also play a big factor on the audio quality lalo na if you are very particular in details ;)
Wag ka maniwala kay gerard na hindi sya master, sq champ yan hehehe. Nice speaker you have there, kamusta ang pairing with rotel? From what i read kasi rotels are on the brighter side. But i dont own one so i have no real opinion on it.
Post by: Lynn on Jan 15, 2013 at 11:19 PM
Wag ka maniwala kay gerard na hindi sya master, sq champ yan hehehe. Nice speaker you have there, kamusta ang pairing with rotel? From what i read kasi rotels are on the brighter side. But i dont own one so i have no real opinion on it.
Salamat po mga Master... :)
medyo nakaka 2hrs palang po ako ng gamit. Ayun nga po medyo hindi match yun dalawa kasi 40watts lang yun amp then 20 to 120watts yun required ng PSB para sa Amp. tingin ko dapat yun RA06 ang bagay dito sa Image B6 para yun body eh mas lutang, kasi parang puro attack yun nararamdaman ko.
- Yun Rotel po parang mataas ang Treble, same thing yun comment sa Whathifi na yun treble minsan guguhit sa tenga mo.
- Ang ok lang sa setup na ito kahit nasa 3 o'clock n yun volume ng amp still kaya ng PSB na hindi maging muddy o distorted.
- Issue din po yun placement ng Speaker, wala akong stand kaya nasa sahig at malapit sa pader, kaya yun Bass medyo overwhelming.
- Dami ko din pong mali sa pag angulo, medyo maliit yun room na pinag lagyan ko kaya nun nakikinig ako puro loudness ang nararamdaman ko. may detailed pero konti ang soundstage.
- Vocals po very straight, na try ko si Rico J. Puno sa "The way we were" ramdam mo yun passion at yun gaspang sa dulo kapag bumirit sya. (yun nga lang minsan sharp na).
- Sa female naman po si Nina, "through the fire" ok ang registered nya hindi sharp.
- Bass, na try ko po sa Metallica "God that failed". sa akin super swabe sya dahil ang bigat at tight yun lows. Na try ko din sa Deftones "Drive" original by The Cars. medyo hindi kaya yun lalim at stiffness ng bass.
- Treble. Na try ko po sa Alice in Chain MTV unplugged - Buong album. ganda ng seperation kahit pa mali mali yun pwesto ng speaker at ako (ang lapit ko kasi).
Ito palang po masasabi ko. sa Sat po mas magagamit ko sya ng matagal.
Dami ko pang artist na hindi na try.
Artist / Album - kung ano yun audition ko sa kanila
Playlist:
Dido (No Angle) - Bass / Vocals
Queen (Greatest Hits I to III)- Vocals / Separation
The Police (The very best of Sting & The Police) - Vocals / Treble
Spandau Ballet (GOLD) - Bass / Vocals
The Smith (Louder that Bombs)- Vocals / Detailed
Sepultura (Chaos A.D / Roots )- Power ng speaker at Amp.
Pantera (Vulgar Display of Power) - Power ng speaker at Amp.
The Dawn (The Latter Half of days) - Soundstage
Prozak (For Lovers)- Detailed/Soundstage
Thanks
Post by: sientobente on Jan 16, 2013 at 01:31 PM
Wag ka maniwala kay gerard na hindi sya master, sq champ yan hehehe. Nice speaker you have there, kamusta ang pairing with rotel? From what i read kasi rotels are on the brighter side. But i dont own one so i have no real opinion on it.nahulog ako sa kinalalagyan ko sa pinagsasabi mo master timi. hahaha
@hshaun05
nice review master. i believe the rotel @ 40w has good enough power to feed the B6 because the image series has good sensitivity ratings. i'm sure the 04 and the 06se won't have that much of a difference in terms of sound quality and will just retain that signature rotel house sound you hear from your amp.
looking forward for your next reviews ;)
Post by: Lynn on Jan 16, 2013 at 01:58 PM
nahulog ako sa kinalalagyan ko sa pinagsasabi mo master timi. hahaha
@hshaun05
nice review master. i believe the rotel @ 40w has good enough power to feed the B6 because the image series has good sensitivity ratings. i'm sure the 04 and the 06se won't have that much of a difference in terms of sound quality and will just retain that signature rotel house sound you hear from your amp.
looking forward for your next reviews ;)
Salamat po Master, paano po pala yun body? dun po kasi sa HiFi Lounge na audition ko yun NAD 326 (50watts) at B&W 685. ganda kasi ng soundstage at malaki talaga yun tunog. or dahil malayo at may acoustic panel lang sila.
Any tips po para marinig ko yun laki ng tunog hindi yun lakas ng tunog.
Post by: sientobente on Jan 16, 2013 at 02:14 PM
Salamat po Master, paano po pala yun body? dun po kasi sa HiFi Lounge na audition ko yun NAD 326 (50watts) at B&W 685. ganda kasi ng soundstage at malaki talaga yun tunog. or dahil malayo at may acoustic panel lang sila.
Any tips po para marinig ko yun laki ng tunog hindi yun lakas ng tunog.
maraming factors master para palakihin yung tunog. sometimes the amp comes to play or sometimes it's the limitation of the speaker driver. for room treatments, what you can do to make it sound wider is to add diffusers to deflect and spread the sound more.
(http://dood.ca/blog/diffusers.jpg)
we have a lot of sound treatment gurus here, one of the best i know is don master nelson de leon who has his own anechoic chamber ;)
Post by: Lynn on Jan 16, 2013 at 02:51 PM
Paano po yun diffusers (ex. po ba ito ng acoustic panel). napansin ko din po karamihan naka big carpet, may carpet din po ako kasi mga double lang yun size.
Kyo po base sa PSB speaker nyo ano treatment nyo?
Thanks!
Post by: sientobente on Jan 16, 2013 at 03:06 PM
Wow, definitely hindi po ako master, pwede po ako Alipin. :)
Paano po yun diffusers (ex. po ba ito ng acoustic panel). napansin ko din po karamihan naka big carpet, may carpet din po ako kasi mga double lang yun size.
Kyo po base sa PSB speaker nyo ano treatment nyo?
Thanks!
sa acoustic panel master, may sound absorbers at may sound diffusers. some use them in tandem. just like don master nelson's room. diffuser covered by absorbers. the logic in this setting was because his first layer can probably just absorb around 50% of the frequencies passing through it. when the sound gets through, the diffuser in the 2nd layer will do it's job to reflect the the sound back to the first layer effectively reducing unwanted reflections. maraming techniques master in room treatment, dami ko din pang dapat matutunan. yung sa akin na psb setup, carpet lang na walang silbi ang room treatment ko ;D
Post by: Lynn on Jan 16, 2013 at 03:39 PM
sa acoustic panel master, may sound absorbers at may sound diffusers. some use them in tandem. just like don master nelson's room. diffuser covered by absorbers. the logic in this setting was because his first layer can probably just absorb around 50% of the frequencies passing through it. when the sound gets through, the diffuser in the 2nd layer will do it's job to reflect the the sound back to the first layer effectively reducing unwanted reflections. maraming techniques master in room treatment, dami ko din pang dapat matutunan. yung sa akin na psb setup, carpet lang na walang silbi ang room treatment ko ;D
Salamat po sa Tips master...
Post by: Timithekid on Jan 16, 2013 at 05:16 PM
Salamat po Master, paano po pala yun body? dun po kasi sa HiFi Lounge na audition ko yun NAD 326 (50watts) at B&W 685. ganda kasi ng soundstage at malaki talaga yun tunog. or dahil malayo at may acoustic panel lang sila.
Any tips po para marinig ko yun laki ng tunog hindi yun lakas ng tunog.
Im sure you know this but try to move around your speakers too, baka room acoustics nga lang yan.
Post by: Lynn on Jan 16, 2013 at 05:21 PM
Im sure you know this but try to move around your speakers too, baka room acoustics nga lang yan.
Salamat Master... Sige po nitong weekends aayusin ko na yun placement ng 2.0 ko.
Post by: Lynn on Jan 20, 2013 at 11:20 PM
Medyo may comparison ako sa B6 in terms of price range.
Ang Tannoy DC4 at PSB Image B6 ay same price na SRP 21k
Kung gusto ng isang listener na more on jazz, live performance, unplugged session. The best ang Tannoy DC4 dahil sa detailed nya sa separation at soundstage. yun nga lang wag kang umasa sa Low's dahil napaka simple lang ng low's nya. (pwede bili ng Sub para compensate na lahat)
Kung gusto naman ng isang listener ng more on power music like: Rock, Hip-hop, Pop, Techno at Electronica. party party ka sa low's, no need na talaga sa sub, ok naman din ang mids at high nya, hindi ka bitin pero yun detailed nya medyo hindi ganun ka detailed compare sa DC4.
nasa isip ko nga na bumili pa ng isang set pero Tannoy DC4 naman then, ayusin ko yun setup na parang katulad sa pics sa baba. nasa baba yun B6 then naka patong naman yun DC4 sa ibabaw ng B6.
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/P1050104.jpg)
Naalala ko lang yun setup ng megadeth sa mga Marshall Amp nila na magkapatong. :) :) :)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/hshaun05/megadeth_120531_122.jpg)
Thanks!
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 22, 2013 at 11:20 PM
Post by: Stagea on Jan 23, 2013 at 01:09 AM
Guys do youthink the Musical Fidelity M3i would be enough for a PSB bookshelf?
That depends on the model and your listening demands. The M3i is a smooth and clean amp, but it has a weak power supply and a high output impedance.
Post by: resident_evil on Jan 23, 2013 at 01:15 AM
Post by: resident_evil on Jan 23, 2013 at 01:16 AM
Post by: Stagea on Jan 23, 2013 at 01:21 AM
What particular sound/aspect are you looking for ba bro for the PSB? In short, ano ang gusto mong ilabas nya na tunog? The guy who got my Imagines earlier brought with him his NAD 515 and I was surprised that it could drive the Imagines. I used to drive the Imagines with my NAD 326 in our dining room and I felt it lacked juice. Dining room is full of glass doors, hard flooring, echo. The NAD 515 was used in my office. Carpeted flooring with walls and ceilings that do not reflect sound waves that much. Soundstage and punch were definitely lacking using the 515 but it could still drive the Imagines.
Hi Atty,
You mean the C315BEE? The 3x5 series really sounds better with the Imagines, imo. I've mentioned this quite a few times. :)
By the way, there is Musical Fidelity store just behind Watts Hi Fi. Why dont you ask Rex to lend you a pair of Synchronies and bring to the other store so you can audition.
I agree. This is a great way to cross-shop. :)
Post by: resident_evil on Jan 23, 2013 at 01:22 AM
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 23, 2013 at 04:55 AM
That depends on the model and your listening demands. The M3i is a smooth and clean amp, but it has a weak power supply and a high output impedance.
thats what im thinking too. but i just saw a review stating that the m3i was enough to give justice to a TAD CR-1. i called DMC and stocks are arriving by feb. im definitely going to check this out.
now what sound am i looking for? nothing exotic/fancy actually. just clean sounding, without much compression, with the instruments clearly laid out in the soundstage, i also want to play loud without strain. The NAD 375bee is definitely on the top of my list but im looking for other options before i commit.
Post by: Stagea on Jan 23, 2013 at 05:11 AM
thats what im thinking too. but i just saw a review stating that the m3i was enough to give justice to a TAD CR-1. i called DMC and stocks are arriving by feb. im definitely going to check this out.
(http://cdn2.mos.techradar.futurecdn.net//Review%20images/Hi-Fi%20Choice/HFC%20337/HFC337.musicalfidelity.m3i_tech-580-90.jpg)
Its 4 ohm output rating is only with one channel driven because of the small tranny. Distortion and noise numbers are quite low with an 8 ohm resistive load, but expect compression when playing dynamic tracks and pushing hard to drive speakers. DF is also low: 36 at 8 ohms / 18 at 4 ohms. Stereo separation is exceptionally good however, as having few parts allowed for good spacing between L and R channel components.
now what sound am i looking for? nothing exotic/fancy actually. just clean sounding, without much compression, with the instruments clearly laid out in the soundstage, i also want to play loud without strain. The NAD 375bee is definitely on the top of my list but im looking for other options before i commit.
(http://cdn3.mos.techradar.futurecdn.net//Review%20images/Hi-Fi%20Choice/HFC%20325/HFC325.nad.375beeanno-580-90.jpg)
There is a big gap in terms of brawn. 4x the output transistors, 3x the power supply capacity, etc. The M3i is more like a Mercedes E200, faced with a Shelby GT500 in the C375BEE. Refinement versus brute force. The former will likely provide a more delicate experience at lower levels, whilst the latter is far more capable of delivering punishing dynamics.
I suggest trying both amps to see which one you like better. :)
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 23, 2013 at 09:54 AM
you guys might see me hanging around MCS by the weekend ;D
Post by: Stagea on Jan 23, 2013 at 12:46 PM
:o i just cant understand how NAD can sell their amps at these prices. i mean look at those innards! the m3i is about 70k and the 375bee is about 50k-ish only i think. totally blows my mind how nad does it. they are both manufactured in china...
you guys might see me hanging around MCS by the weekend ;D
The C375BEE's transistors are actually rated 47% higher than what's in the M3 (high safety margin); both have 4 pairs of output devices per side.
It's really just the C375BEE that's in this unique price/performance position (at least for NAD). The C356BEE is much less robust. The C375BEE's performance numbers are far superior to the C356BEE's in every way, except for power dissipation. The C356BEE, C326BEE and C316BEE are closer together when it comes to design and performance.
The C375BEE and the C390DD can belong to a midlevel product line (between the Classic Series and the Masters Series), had they wanted such a line. The C375BEE is the frugal brother of the M3, whilst the C390DD is the frugal brother of the M2.
Post by: Lynn on Jan 23, 2013 at 01:27 PM
Post by: jcfernandez on Jan 23, 2013 at 03:21 PM
Post by: sientobente on Jan 24, 2013 at 01:53 AM
How much po ang C375BEE at RCD-06SE?
I think the c375bee cost less than 60k. not familiar with the rotel pricing though but maybe it's close to the ra-06se price. you can pm otep_32 for inquiries.
Post by: Lynn on Jan 25, 2013 at 06:23 PM
I think the c375bee cost less than 60k. not familiar with the rotel pricing though but maybe it's close to the ra-06se price. you can pm otep_32 for inquiries.
thanks master...
Post by: sientobente on Jan 27, 2013 at 07:42 PM
(http://www.studiowerx.com/PSB/NewPsbAlpha.jpg)
Post by: Lynn on Jan 27, 2013 at 10:03 PM
i was just going through a different website and i didn't know psb makes funky-colored enclosures O0
(http://www.studiowerx.com/PSB/NewPsbAlpha.jpg)
Kulit red at grey na gloss... pwede kaya yun black to yellow effect sa Fender Strato then ilalagay sa kaha ng speaker... naku funk funk na yun... or pink, green to blue halo halo prang psychedelic na.
Post by: Lancito on Feb 03, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Kulit red at grey na gloss... pwede kaya yun black to yellow effect sa Fender Strato then ilalagay sa kaha ng speaker... naku funk funk na yun... or pink, green to blue halo halo prang psychedelic na.
Kaso dito satin Rosewood lang meron sa Imagine series. Very limited options. Sana man lang may black.
Post by: armymanhaha on Feb 03, 2013 at 02:43 PM
Post by: sientobente on Feb 04, 2013 at 09:31 PM
Kaso dito satin Rosewood lang meron sa Imagine series. Very limited options. Sana man lang may black.
was that the info hifi plus asia gave you? i personally saw the piano black finish on the imagine bookshelf before, haven't seen an imagine t2 on any other color than rosewood/dark cherry though. this is quite ironic, since i want hifi plus to bring in rosewood/dark cherry colored subs :(
Post by: Lancito on Feb 04, 2013 at 10:42 PM
was that the info hifi plus asia gave you? i personally saw the piano black finish on the imagine bookshelf before, haven't seen an imagine t2 on any other color than rosewood/dark cherry though. this is quite ironic, since i want hifi plus to bring in rosewood/dark cherry colored subs :(
Only inquired from Spectra and Watt Hifi. The T2 is only available in rosewood / dark cherry color. May I know the contact details of Hifi Plus Asia?
Post by: sientobente on Feb 05, 2013 at 01:03 AM
Only inquired from Spectra and Watt Hifi. The T2 is only available in rosewood / dark cherry color. May I know the contact details of Hifi Plus Asia?
Here it is sir:
531 A. Flores St., Ermita, Manila, 1000
Tel: (+632) 526-3831 or 526-5541
Fax: (+632) 526-2679
www.hifiplusasia.com
They are the local distributors of psb, paradigm, anthem, nad etc.
Post by: Lancito on Feb 05, 2013 at 07:28 AM
Here it is sir:
531 A. Flores St., Ermita, Manila, 1000
Tel: (+632) 526-3831 or 526-5541
Fax: (+632) 526-2679
www.hifiplusasia.com
They are the local distributors of psb, paradigm, anthem, nad etc.
Thank you.
Post by: Lynn on Feb 12, 2013 at 11:02 PM
I dont doubt you or your little girl, most probably may change siguro yung sound kasi pareho kayo ng napansin but the way i understand it is that banana plugs wont make you system better, it "may" change the sound and its usually for the worse because there is another material in between the wire and the speaker binding post. sabi nga ng experts, the best connection is the most direct one, so the lesser material the signal needs to go through from the receiver/amp to the speaker the better.
baka naman po nasabi nyong bright ang direct wire kasi mas maraming detail, mas emphasized or angat yung highs and when you used a banana plug, nawala yung detalye na yon. tama po ba intindi ko?
Hi,
Ngayon po sa babad ko sa PSB, tama po kayo naging less detailed sya dahil sa Banana plug, kaya hindi naging matalas... bumili kasi po ako ng isa pang wire na 12awg naman (una 14awg), ngayon mas naging malaki ang tunog at detailed, then yun nilagyan ko ng banana plug medyo naging less detailed at hindi na matalas yun tunog.
Now I understand... Marami pong salamat sa mga pointers.
plus kay Master mikeer2002ph salamat po sa mga detailed explanation w/ example pa.
Post by: Timithekid on Feb 13, 2013 at 12:16 AM
Hi,
Ngayon po sa babad ko sa PSB, tama po kayo naging less detailed sya dahil sa Banana plug, kaya hindi naging matalas... bumili kasi po ako ng isa pang wire na 12awg naman (una 14awg), ngayon mas naging malaki ang tunog at detailed, then yun nilagyan ko ng banana plug medyo naging less detailed at hindi na matalas yun tunog.
Now I understand... Marami pong salamat sa mga pointers.
plus kay Master mikeer2002ph salamat po sa mga detailed explanation w/ example pa.
always happy to help sir, and marami pa dyan sa mga paligid na mas magaling pa mag explain sakin hehe, they are but a PM away, Mikee is definitely one of them. As for our old banana plug discussion, that was my suspicion and I guess after hours of listening to your system you were able to confirm it for me.
As for your wire upgrade, Usually, the bigger the gauge the better it will get (up to a certain point). Although personally I have not gone more than 14 awg.
Post by: praktikal on Feb 13, 2013 at 01:32 AM
simple na, nakatipid ka pa -- praktikal. ;)
Post by: Lynn on Feb 13, 2013 at 10:06 AM
always happy to help sir, and marami pa dyan sa mga paligid na mas magaling pa mag explain sakin hehe, they are but a PM away, Mikee is definitely one of them. As for our old banana plug discussion, that was my suspicion and I guess after hours of listening to your system you were able to confirm it for me.
As for your wire upgrade, Usually, the bigger the gauge the better it will get (up to a certain point). Although personally I have not gone more than 14 awg.
ako din nun tumaas ako from 14awg to 12awg, then try ko pa yun biwire. 14 sa HF 12 sa LF, both pure copper. lumaki yun soundstage at kumapal yun bass.
Thanks
Post by: sientobente on Feb 13, 2013 at 11:19 AM
ako din nun tumaas ako from 14awg to 12awg, then try ko pa yun biwire. 14 sa HF 12 sa LF, both pure copper. lumaki yun soundstage at kumapal yun bass.
Thanks
nice. makapagexperimento nga din. wanting to try out that rega quattro bi-wire speaker cables to see if there will be any improvement against my chord silverscreen cables.
Post by: Timithekid on Feb 13, 2013 at 11:37 AM
nice. makapagexperimento nga din. wanting to try out that rega quattro bi-wire speaker cables to see if there will be any improvement against my chord silverscreen cables.
More often than not master G ealng improvement ang bi wire kasi isang amp lang naman nagpopower, bi amp is a different story though.
Post by: sientobente on Feb 13, 2013 at 11:41 AM
More often than not master G ealng improvement ang bi wire kasi isang amp lang naman nagpopower, bi amp is a different story though.
master timi, comparing the cables, gauge 16 lang ata yung chord silverscreen, while the rega quattro is gauge 14 and is a bi-wire cable
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZiS4IUiHUv9IU_P277aP1Ses6EIQZz9KrY3_J1l4Z6UuaAVUmpw)
mukhang maganda kasing value for money itong rega, which will make me wanna try it soon.
Post by: Lynn on Feb 13, 2013 at 11:48 AM
More often than not master G ealng improvement ang bi wire kasi isang amp lang naman nagpopower, bi amp is a different story though.
oo nga po nag basa din ako sa Bi-amp / passive. daming rules, dapat daw bypass din yun Crossover dahil walang effect kung hindi gagawin. sa akin nmn po. using Rotel, naisip ko kasi dalawa yun speaker input A + B @ 4ohms. yun LF sa speaker A then yun isa nmn sa Speaker B. yun iba kasi magkapatong lang yun wire sa dahilang isa lang yun Speaker input.
Post by: Timithekid on Feb 13, 2013 at 11:49 AM
master timi, comparing the cables, gauge 16 lang ata yung chord silverscreen, while the rega quattro is gauge 14 and is a bi-wire cable
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZiS4IUiHUv9IU_P277aP1Ses6EIQZz9KrY3_J1l4Z6UuaAVUmpw)
mukhang maganda kasing value for money itong rega, which will make me wanna try it soon.
Well kung sa quality eh maganda talaga si REGA, may kamahalan nga lang last ako nagtanong, i think its 500 ata/meter. As for the gauge, kung hindi ganon ka haba Master baka wala karin manotice na difference, this link is a good read.
http://www.audioholics.com/education/cables/speaker-cable-gauge
Post by: sientobente on Feb 13, 2013 at 11:51 AM
Well kung sa quality eh maganda talaga si REGA, may kamahalan nga lang last ako nagtanong, i think its 500 ata/meter. As for the gauge, kung hindi ganon ka haba Master baka wala karin manotice na difference, this link is a good read.mas mura yan ng di hamak sa what hifi in mcs *wink* *wink* kaya bili na hehe
http://www.audioholics.com/education/cables/speaker-cable-gauge
Post by: Timithekid on Feb 13, 2013 at 11:52 AM
oo nga po nag basa din ako sa Bi-amp / passive. daming rules, dapat daw bypass din yun Crossover dahil walang effect kung hindi gagawin. sa akin nmn po. using Rotel, naisip ko kasi dalawa yun speaker input A + B @ 4ohms. yun LF sa speaker A then yun isa nmn sa Speaker B. yun iba kasi magkapatong lang yun wire sa dahilang isa lang yun Speaker input.
Tama po kayo sir, may speaker a and speaker b, but unless there are independent power supplies, it is claimed that the result will be the same. Pero syempre, our hobby is subjective and if you heard the difference sa system mo, then thats excellent. :)
Post by: Lynn on Feb 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM
Tama po kayo sir, may speaker a and speaker b, but unless there are independent power supplies, it is claimed that the result will be the same. Pero syempre, our hobby is subjective and if you heard the difference sa system mo, then thats excellent. :)
Yah, well sa una meron significant, pero kapag nagtagal parang wala din effect. ang nasa isip ko po kasi baka lang kumapal yun gamit kong cable kaya nagbago. next project kung gagamit ng silver for HF and copper sa LF.
Thanks!
Post by: Timithekid on Feb 13, 2013 at 11:58 AM
mas mura yan ng di hamak sa what hifi in mcs *wink* *wink* kaya bili na hehe
Eh madaya ka kasi stockholder ka ni rhex! Hahahaha. Give it a try and ket me know, kung talagang malupit ang difference try ko yan. By the way,check mo naman master G kung tama ba balak ko gawin, since i have a power amp all of my speakers are connected to it via pre-out, and now that i want to try bi-amping, i'm going to connect another speaker wire to the receivers fw/sb terminal and set the receiver setting to bi-amp.
Post by: sientobente on Feb 13, 2013 at 12:15 PM
Eh madaya ka kasi stockholder ka ni rhex! Hahahaha. Give it a try and ket me know, kung talagang malupit ang difference try ko yan. By the way,check mo naman master G kung tama ba balak ko gawin, since i have a power amp all of my speakers are connected to it via pre-out, and now that i want to try bi-amping, i'm going to connect another speaker wire to the receivers fw/sb terminal and set the receiver setting to bi-amp.wow, may bagong 5 channel power amp ka na master timi, congrats! tagal ko hindi updated sa pdvd dahil sa lecheng trabaho na to.
regarding your plans, i believe that should work but just to be sure, i'll try that later when i get home tonight. i'll let you know the results.
Post by: Timithekid on Feb 13, 2013 at 12:19 PM
wow, may bagong 5 channel power amp ka na master timi, congrats! tagal ko hindi updated sa pdvd dahil sa lecheng trabaho na to.
regarding your plans, i believe that should work but just to be sure, i'll try that later when i get home tonight. i'll let you know the results.
Nyak dati pa yung power amp ko hahaha, yung receiver lang ang naupgrade ko...
Post by: Stagea on Feb 16, 2013 at 11:48 PM
yun iba kasi magkapatong lang yun wire sa dahilang isa lang yun Speaker input.
Don't do this unless sure ka sa speaker A/B switching circuitry ng amp mo (yung mga basic mechanical switch lang gamit, normally pwede). It can damage the amp in some cases, lalo na yung mga medyo sophisticated ang protection mechanisms.
Besides, bat mo gagamitin ang A + B outputs kung isa lang din ang entry point sa kabila.
Post by: Lynn on Feb 18, 2013 at 02:34 PM
Don't do this unless sure ka sa speaker A/B switching circuitry ng amp mo (yung mga basic mechanical switch lang gamit, normally pwede). It can damage the amp in some cases, lalo na yung mga medyo sophisticated ang protection mechanisms.
Besides, bat mo gagamitin ang A + B outputs kung isa lang din ang entry point sa kabila.
Try ko lang... ayun medyo ok nmn yun tunog ng B6, bali ang ginawa ko eh, 12awg copper rekta sa LF then 14awg babana plug sa HF. medyo mas lumaki yun tunog ng Lows.
pansin ko lang hndi yata pang music ang B6, kasi ang handa nya sa HT. yun 5.1 (freebies sa LEDTV) ng sony wala eh, nilamon ng buo ni B6. pinanood ko yun Training Day. Grabe yun barilan, rinig ko yun pagkakaiba ng shotgun sa pistol. hindi lang sya lakas o gulat. hindi pa ako naka AVR nun naka Integrated Amp lang.
Post by: onkyo616 on Feb 22, 2013 at 08:06 AM
I think the real wood veneer finish starts on the Imagine upwards. If I'm in your position, without skipping a beat I'd choose the Imagine T. It's on a whole different level. The clarity, the crispiness and the finish, it's really amazing. The only thing you have to remember though, the Imagine T may be harder to drive than the Image T6. The T6 can be powered fine even by entry level AVRs.
Master, what about trying Cambridge Audio? like the 851a. I think that fits very well beneath your allotted budget. I have a CA+PSB pairing although it's a much lower end one but it works very well. It has retained the warm sound signature PSB has while being able to extend further in the HF than my NAD amp. Don Master Ivan has the highend version of my CA + PSB lineup. ;)
Master, how about Image T5, B5 and C5 powered by onkyo 616 ok ba ang outcome or palitan ko B5 with polk audio Fxi a6, preference will be 50/50 music and movies
salamat po for your inputs.........
Post by: onkyo616 on Feb 22, 2013 at 10:20 AM
Finally got the B6. What amp can you suggest? I loved it paired with nad. Now i want to know if cambridge audio 740a goes well with the psb. Too bad 5th ave doesnt carry psb. Has anyone heard of ca+psb combo?
Hi cls, nakuha mo pala yong B6, di na ba onkyo 608 pinaggamitan mo ng B6?
Post by: armymanhaha on Feb 22, 2013 at 10:43 PM
Post by: sientobente on Feb 24, 2013 at 01:39 AM
The 616 can definitely power that set you are eyeing. I have an older 608 and it doesn't lack any dynamic power needed when I watch movies on my T6. The image line's above average sensitivity really helps.
Post by: onkyo616 on Feb 24, 2013 at 05:23 PM
@onkyo616
The 616 can definitely power that set you are eyeing. I have an older 608 and it doesn't lack any dynamic power needed when I watch movies on my T6. The image line's above average sensitivity really helps.
Hi Sientobente,
Will this T6 will have enough bass during power up on this onkyo since for now my budget allows only 5.0 set-up, sub to follow na lang. And how much do you think this T6 cost in cash....
Thanks again....
Post by: sientobente on Feb 24, 2013 at 11:17 PM
Hi Sientobente,
Will this T6 will have enough bass during power up on this onkyo since for now my budget allows only 5.0 set-up, sub to follow na lang. And how much do you think this T6 cost in cash....
Thanks again....
yes it can. the low frequencies are well pronounced even in my 608. it's better if you hear it for yourself. you can demo the actual setup in what hifi in makati cinema square, spectra in glorietta or sights and sounds in shangrila without a sub. just make sure you have a film you can use as a reference. for the pricing, they vary per store. you can pm otep_32(rex) for the best price, madali pa siyang kausap. ;)
Post by: AppleMan on Feb 25, 2013 at 12:03 AM
Post by: sientobente on Feb 25, 2013 at 12:11 AM
alpha series:
t1 -24,000
b1- 13,000
c1- 10,000
image series:
t6- 55,000
t5-44,000
b6-21,000
b5- 18,000
b4- 14,000
c4- 16,500
c5- 21,000
s5- 39,000
imagine series:
t2- 122,000
t- 89,000
b- 46,000
c- 36,000
s- 53,000
mini- 32,000
synchrony series:
0ne- 210,000
two- 155,000
one b- 94,000
two b- 70,000
one c- 80,000
two c- 65,000
s - 89,000
You can PM Rex/Otep_32 for a "bestfriend" discount 8)
Post by: AppleMan on Feb 25, 2013 at 04:13 PM
PSB Price list
alpha series:
t1 -24,000
b1- 13,000
c1- 10,000
image series:
t6- 55,000
t5-44,000
b6-21,000
b5- 18,000
b4- 14,000
c4- 16,500
c5- 21,000
s5- 39,000
imagine series:
t2- 122,000
t- 89,000
b- 46,000
c- 36,000
s- 53,000
mini- 32,000
synchrony series:
0ne- 210,000
two- 155,000
one b- 94,000
two b- 70,000
one c- 80,000
two c- 65,000
s - 89,000
You can PM Rex/Otep_32 for a "bestfriend" discount 8)
Wow! kakagulat pala price dyan sa atin ng B6 Php 21,000 at yung T6 Php 55,000
Buti na lang dito me sa ME at yung B6 bili ko nasa 10,500 lang ayos pala..next target ko T5...TIA!
Post by: sientobente on Mar 03, 2013 at 02:00 AM
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f317/sientobente/psbsub008_zpsd32fe974.jpg)
there were a couple of tests i did to know if this was really a musical sub. first i tried a smallish bookshelf like the psb image b4 and used the subseries 300 to do more than just the regular lfe duties. i crossed the sub to 150hz, then played the usual stuff i listen to. viola! integrating the sub was seamless. those miniature bookshelf speakers sounded like large floorstanders, the stage became wider and the bass beats were precise and tight. it even offered more definition on the vocals. it really impressed me seeing that a ported sub like this can offer the accuracy we usually reserve for sealed subs. i also tried other speakers from rega, paradigm etc., and each one of them had the same effect which was a pleasant surprise.
for movie duties, based from ht lab measures, this sub can do 20hz on -6db. which is great! tried out the usual movies famous for their LFEs like tdkr, ironman 2, the incredible hulk etc. and wow, the details i'm looking for which i only use to hear from a different 3-letter sub, can be reproduced by these. i also loved the room interaction psb had in my bedroom. It wasn't as choosy on the location I position these subs to unlike my previous and other subs.
overall, i already found what i wanted and needed on a sub--- flexibility. the features aren't bad too. it's powered by a NAD class-D amp, so we are assured of the technology running into these babies. Spec-wise, it's a 12-incher than can do 850w of peak dynamic power which should be enough power to shake your house on those sudden movie explosions you enjoy. plus it's built sturdily too.
i know psb subs aren't really a popular choice here in pdvd, but yeah it's still a 3-letter sub ;D and i would encourage everyone to try it out! here's to wishing it comes in dark cherry :(
Post by: Timithekid on Mar 03, 2013 at 06:15 AM
i've been looking for a dark cherry sub(to match my speakers) for a really long time. now i've given up, the criteria i want in a sub now would be something that is musical and can still shake your house and bother your neighbors if you wanted to. i've found this balance in the psb subseries 300.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f317/sientobente/psbsub008_zpsd32fe974.jpg)
there were a couple of tests i did to know if this was really a musical sub. first i tried a smallish bookshelf like the psb image b4 and used the subseries 300 to do more than just the regular lfe duties. i crossed the sub to 150hz, then played the usual stuff i listen to. viola! integrating the sub was seamless. those miniature bookshelf speakers sounded like large floorstanders, the stage became wider and the bass beats were precise and tight. it even offered more definition on the vocals. it really impressed me seeing that a ported sub like this can offer the accuracy we usually reserve for sealed subs. i also tried other speakers from rega, paradigm etc., and each one of them had the same effect which was a pleasant surprise.
for movie duties, based from ht lab measures, this sub can do 20hz on -6db. which is great! tried out the usual movies famous for their LFEs like tdkr, ironman 2, the incredible hulk etc. and wow, the details i'm looking for which i only use to hear from a different 3-letter sub, can be reproduced by these. i also loved the room interaction psb had in my bedroom. It wasn't as choosy on the location I position these subs to unlike my previous and other subs.
overall, i already found what i wanted and needed on a sub--- flexibility. the features aren't bad too. it's powered by a NAD class-D amp, so we are assured of the technology running into these babies. Spec-wise, it's a 12-incher than can do 850w of peak dynamic power which should be enough power to shake your house on those sudden movie explosions you enjoy. plus it's built sturdily too.
i know psb subs aren't really a popular choice here in pdvd, but yeah it's still a 3-letter sub ;D and i would encourage everyone to try it out! here's to wishing it comes in dark cherry :(
Aba kailangan mo ipadinig samin yan master! Kailan ba? Dadala ako ng chicks, este chips. Hehehe
Post by: sientobente on Mar 03, 2013 at 06:18 AM
Aba kailangan mo ipadinig samin yan master! Kailan ba? Dadala ako ng chicks, este chips. Hehehe
master timi, tara dun sa bundok eb ni mother elmer, dalhin ko to(kahit mabigat) so we can compare it with her svs ;) i'm sure dehado sa spl to but it will be a fun shootout.
Post by: Timithekid on Mar 03, 2013 at 06:20 AM
master timi, tara dun sa bundok eb ni mother elmer, dalhin ko to(kahit mabigat) so we can compare it with her svs ;) i'm sure dehado sa spl to but it will be a fun shootout.
Anak ng boogie ka Gerard, alam mo naman alergic ako sa mga usapang SPL diba? Hehehe, habol ko is the sound and how it matches the system overall, di ko naman kaya marinig si spl eh hahaha. But kidding aside, that will be a nice shootout indeed. :)
Post by: Lynn on Mar 04, 2013 at 02:05 AM
then sa Spectra meron mga SUB PSB, then quote ako sa Subseries 1 and 5i... any reviews po mga master?
Post by: sientobente on Mar 04, 2013 at 03:13 AM
ako din naghahanap ng Sub para maging 2.1 na setup ko. napadaan ako sa 5th Ave, Tannoy yun napakinggan ko, pero hindi ko nagustuhan yun tight and lalim...
then sa Spectra meron mga SUB PSB, then quote ako sa Subseries 1 and 5i... any reviews po mga master?
The subseries 1 is meant for really small spaces or as a pc sub for near field listening. the 5i/6i on the other hand are designs that focuses on spl performance. the newer models 200/300 focuses on musicality but still having that spl punch. the 5i and 6i can go deeper than the 200/300 but the latter set integrates itself much better on both your audio and movie needs. the amp used on the 5i/6i were Bash while on the 200/300 it's NAD.
Post by: melbourne on Mar 04, 2013 at 09:06 AM
i've been looking for a dark cherry sub(to match my speakers) for a really long time. now i've given up, the criteria i want in a sub now would be something that is musical and can still shake your house and bother your neighbors if you wanted to. i've found this balance in the psb subseries 300.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f317/sientobente/psbsub008_zpsd32fe974.jpg)
there were a couple of tests i did to know if this was really a musical sub. first i tried a smallish bookshelf like the psb image b4 and used the subseries 300 to do more than just the regular lfe duties. i crossed the sub to 150hz, then played the usual stuff i listen to. viola! integrating the sub was seamless. those miniature bookshelf speakers sounded like large floorstanders, the stage became wider and the bass beats were precise and tight. it even offered more definition on the vocals. it really impressed me seeing that a ported sub like this can offer the accuracy we usually reserve for sealed subs. i also tried other speakers from rega, paradigm etc., and each one of them had the same effect which was a pleasant surprise.
for movie duties, based from ht lab measures, this sub can do 20hz on -6db. which is great! tried out the usual movies famous for their LFEs like tdkr, ironman 2, the incredible hulk etc. and wow, the details i'm looking for which i only use to hear from a different 3-letter sub, can be reproduced by these. i also loved the room interaction psb had in my bedroom. It wasn't as choosy on the location I position these subs to unlike my previous and other subs.
overall, i already found what i wanted and needed on a sub--- flexibility. the features aren't bad too. it's powered by a NAD class-D amp, so we are assured of the technology running into these babies. Spec-wise, it's a 12-incher than can do 850w of peak dynamic power which should be enough power to shake your house on those sudden movie explosions you enjoy. plus it's built sturdily too.
i know psb subs aren't really a popular choice here in pdvd, but yeah it's still a 3-letter sub ;D and i would encourage everyone to try it out! here's to wishing it comes in dark cherry :(
Nice review brader Sientobente. I am also contemplating on buying a sub for a 2.1 system. My choices narrowed down to PSB sub-series and SVS SB12NSD or SVS SB1000.
Post by: melbourne on Mar 04, 2013 at 09:09 AM
master timi, tara dun sa bundok eb ni mother elmer, dalhin ko to(kahit mabigat) so we can compare it with her svs ;) i'm sure dehado sa spl to but it will be a fun shootout.
Aabangan ko ang review mo sa subwoofer shootout master Gerard.
Post by: sientobente on Mar 05, 2013 at 07:55 AM
Aabangan ko ang review mo sa subwoofer shootout master Gerard.
yep master, i'll post my findings from that get together sponsored by queen elmer. it has a wide audience too so we can gather their feedback as well.
i now have to prepare my muscles, hirap magbuhat ng sub ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Courage on Mar 09, 2013 at 07:08 PM
yep master, i'll post my findings from that get together sponsored by queen elmer. it has a wide audience too so we can gather their feedback as well.
i now have to prepare my muscles, hirap magbuhat ng sub ;D ;D ;D
Pag makakasama ako dalhin ko naman yung isang Klipsch RW12D para ma test din he he he
Post by: Timithekid on Mar 09, 2013 at 07:36 PM
Pag makakasama ako dalhin ko naman yung isang Klipsch RW12D para ma test din he he he
Talaga sis? Magpapakita ka? Magiging shootout ng sub yung eb ah hehehe.
Post by: sientobente on Mar 09, 2013 at 08:40 PM
Pag makakasama ako dalhin ko naman yung isang Klipsch RW12D para ma test din he he he
ayus, tara. sumama ka na, kahit sunduin pa kita diyan sa inyo. tapos istarbaks tayo after ;D
Post by: Courage on Mar 10, 2013 at 09:16 AM
ayus, tara. sumama ka na, kahit sunduin pa kita diyan sa inyo. tapos istarbaks tayo after ;D
Wahehehehehe miss ko na istarbaks he he he... text kita brader kung makakasama ako... anong oras ba yun?
Post by: sientobente on Mar 12, 2013 at 09:36 AM
Wahehehehehe miss ko na istarbaks he he he... text kita brader kung makakasama ako... anong oras ba yun?ayus idol. mga hapon siguro. kuha tayo ng gamit dun kina rex para mapaaudition dun kina mother elmer. tapos planuhin na yang istarbaks na yan.
Post by: Chain on Mar 29, 2013 at 10:57 PM
Post by: Courage on Mar 30, 2013 at 06:38 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 30, 2013 at 09:57 PM
Congrats sa isang member na may bagong Image T6... Thats one awesome speakers bro for music and HT... Post mo na dito brader wag ka na mahiya he he he
+1
Ipost na yan!!!
Post by: sientobente on Mar 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 30, 2013 at 11:47 PM
Yeah congrats on your new t6 sir :) tago nalang natin sya sa codename na appamus :D
Aba tinago mo pa Master G... ;D
Post by: Courage on Mar 30, 2013 at 11:51 PM
Yeah congrats on your new t6 sir :) tago nalang natin sya sa codename na appamus :D
Ha ha ha ha...... Balita ko ikaw Gerard ang mangkukulam eh...
Post by: sientobente on Mar 31, 2013 at 12:42 AM
Ha ha ha ha...... Balita ko ikaw Gerard ang mangkukulam eh...Naku di ako bruha(witch), i think sir appamus bewitched himself when he started to listen to psb ;) very nice value for the money actually O0
Post by: melbourne on Apr 01, 2013 at 09:33 AM
Post by: rexFi on Apr 04, 2013 at 09:41 PM
I am currently contemplating in just getting a Stereo Receiver (probably a NAD or an HK3390) vs. getting an AVR that has True-HDs(Dolby and DTS-HD etc) like a Yamaha 473.
It will be paired with my Alpha B1s.
I say I am already satisfied with only DTS and Dolby using my very outdated HK AVR134 for movies BUT I am not satisfied with my Music listening with it.
Question, will I be equally "satisfied" with an HT/AVR(e.g. RX-V473) with Music vs. the NAD/HK stereo receiver for my Music?
Just a note regarding my NAD vs. HK dilemma, I'm leaning on the NADs since its easier to justify it with the Missus. The NAD models looks thinner, and I already have an HK that kinda looks like the HK3390, so she wouldn't ask me why I need two Amplifiers. EHEHE.
Budget is 20K to 24,999 TIA. ;D
*De Ja Vu, I think I already asked this somewhere.
Post by: Timithekid on Apr 05, 2013 at 04:49 AM
Hi again my fellow PSB users, but have the more expensive models. ;)
I am currently contemplating in just getting a Stereo Receiver (probably a NAD or an HK3390) vs. getting an AVR that has True-HDs(Dolby and DTS-HD etc) like a Yamaha 473.
It will be paired with my Alpha B1s.
I say I am already satisfied with only DTS and Dolby using my very outdated HK AVR134 for movies BUT I am not satisfied with my Music listening with it.
Question, will I be equally "satisfied" with an HT/AVR(e.g. RX-V473) with Music vs. the NAD/HK stereo receiver for my Music?
Just a note regarding my NAD vs. HK dilemma, I'm leaning on the NADs since its easier to justify it with the Missus. The NAD models looks thinner, and I already have an HK that kinda looks like the HK3390, so she wouldn't ask me why I need two Amplifiers. EHEHE.
Budget is 20K to 24,999 TIA. ;D
*De Ja Vu, I think I already asked this somewhere.
If its solely for music, I think you choice of the NAD is spot on, specially if its a stereo integrated amp, but if its for music and HT use, your yamaha AVR idea might just give you the same satisfaction as your Harman. The more musical AVR's are the Marantz and Onkyo.
Post by: sientobente on Apr 05, 2013 at 09:45 AM
Hi again my fellow PSB users, but have the more expensive models. ;)
I am currently contemplating in just getting a Stereo Receiver (probably a NAD or an HK3390) vs. getting an AVR that has True-HDs(Dolby and DTS-HD etc) like a Yamaha 473.
It will be paired with my Alpha B1s.
I say I am already satisfied with only DTS and Dolby using my very outdated HK AVR134 for movies BUT I am not satisfied with my Music listening with it.
Question, will I be equally "satisfied" with an HT/AVR(e.g. RX-V473) with Music vs. the NAD/HK stereo receiver for my Music?
Just a note regarding my NAD vs. HK dilemma, I'm leaning on the NADs since its easier to justify it with the Missus. The NAD models looks thinner, and I already have an HK that kinda looks like the HK3390, so she wouldn't ask me why I need two Amplifiers. EHEHE.
Budget is 20K to 24,999 TIA. ;D
*De Ja Vu, I think I already asked this somewhere.
I think this will boil down on how you use your setup. Is it 80% music 20% movies? If yes an integrated amp will be the way to go.
Post by: appamus on Apr 06, 2013 at 07:11 PM
Just wanna post my new pair of boxes ;D
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/chubleics/IMAG0554.jpg)
Thank you very much sa lahat ng mga input regarding this beautiful brand and itago nalang din natin sila na sina
Sir Louie
Sir Sientobente
Sir Courage(bold at lagyan underline para d halata 8)).
Thank din to sir Rex, very accommodating and easy to talk to, will surely buy from him again PROMISE! ;D
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/chubleics/IMAG0556.jpg)
and hirap buksan magisa pero nabuksan parin :)
Dapat next month pa to but.. oh well, kanin at asin nalang muna for now :P
Thank you again ;)
Post by: armymanhaha on Apr 06, 2013 at 07:49 PM
Post by: AppleMan on Apr 06, 2013 at 07:59 PM
Post by: Courage on Apr 06, 2013 at 10:07 PM
Hello everyone,
Just wanna post my new pair of boxes ;D
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/chubleics/IMAG0554.jpg)
Thank you very much sa lahat ng mga input regarding this beautiful brand and itago nalang din natin sila na sina
Sir Louie
Sir Sientobente
Sir Courage(bold at lagyan underline para d halata 8)).
Thank din to sir Rex, very accommodating and easy to talk to, will surely buy from him again PROMISE! ;D
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd459/chubleics/IMAG0556.jpg)
and hirap buksan magisa pero nabuksan parin :)
Dapat next month pa to but.. oh well, kanin at asin nalang muna for now :P
Thank you again ;)
Congrats brader on your new T6...That is one amazing speaker... Nag iipon pa ako for another T6 set he he he......
Post by: AppleMan on Apr 06, 2013 at 11:48 PM
Post by: appamus on Apr 07, 2013 at 12:17 AM
Congrats brader on your new T6...That is one amazing speaker... Nag iipon pa ako for another T6 set he he he......
Thank you, Sir Courage, especially sa paulit ulit ko na tanong regarding dito.
Sobrang ganda nya na tumutunog kahit walang speaker wire! :d
nah, seriously, wala ako speaker wires as of the moment kasi kakabalik ko lang nung rega wires so tahimik muna cya, baka bukas pa ako makabili so titigan nalang muna kami ngaun :(
Post by: sientobente on Apr 07, 2013 at 06:04 AM
Thank you, Sir Courage, especially sa paulit ulit ko na tanong regarding dito.
Sobrang ganda nya na tumutunog kahit walang speaker wire! :d
nah, seriously, wala ako speaker wires as of the moment kasi kakabalik ko lang nung rega wires so tahimik muna cya, baka bukas pa ako makabili so titigan nalang muna kami ngaun :(
Madali lang solusyonan yan sir. Nagpapahome audition si sir rex ng speaker wires ;) dalaw lang sa mcs :D
Post by: appamus on Apr 07, 2013 at 09:19 AM
Madali lang solusyonan yan sir. Nagpapahome audition si sir rex ng speaker wires ;) dalaw lang sa mcs :D
Yes, sir, sa kanya ung speaker wire na binalik ko. Ung rega quatro :)
Post by: sientobente on Apr 08, 2013 at 01:39 AM
Yes, sir, sa kanya ung speaker wire na binalik ko. Ung rega quatro :)
Nice! Those are the cables I'd like to home audition too. Makadalaw nga kina Rex :)
Post by: defcon3 on Apr 08, 2013 at 03:20 AM
Thank you, Sir Courage, especially sa paulit ulit ko na tanong regarding dito.
Sobrang ganda nya na tumutunog kahit walang speaker wire! :d
nah, seriously, wala ako speaker wires as of the moment kasi kakabalik ko lang nung rega wires so tahimik muna cya, baka bukas pa ako makabili so titigan nalang muna kami ngaun :(
kahit na anong wire basta copper, pwede dyan sir...maski power cable or diy na cat5 cable... for the time being muna nman. kesa sa magtitigan kayo 2....callinggcalling elmers........
Post by: appamus on Apr 08, 2013 at 03:30 AM
kahit na anong wire basta copper, pwede dyan sir...maski power cable or diy na cat5 cable... for the time being muna nman. kesa sa magtitigan kayo 2....callinggcalling elmers........
Yes, sir. Nahanap ko ung cables ko dati sa surround speakers so tumutunog na cya ngaun, un nga lang ang haba ng wire. Lapit lang ng speakers sa amp pero 12meters ung cable :D
Post by: appamus on Apr 08, 2013 at 03:33 AM
Nice! Those are the cables I'd like to home audition too. Makadalaw nga kina Rex :)
Audition mo na, sir. Ganda din ng mga wires na un :)
Post by: defcon3 on Apr 08, 2013 at 03:50 AM
Yes, sir. Nahanap ko ung cables ko dati sa surround speakers so tumutunog na cya ngaun, un nga lang ang haba ng wire. Lapit lang ng speakers sa amp pero 12meters ung cable :D
oks lang yan, temporary lang naman...kung medyo tight ang budget, CAL'S CABLE is your answer... >:D >:D >:D
Post by: appamus on Apr 08, 2013 at 09:10 AM
kung medyo tight ang budget, CAL'S CABLE is your answer... >:D >:D >:D
nakow :)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 08, 2013 at 09:54 AM
nakow :)
+100 regarding Cal's cables...
I'm using them right now sa audio speakers ko and trying one sa center channel sa HT...
You could really hear the difference... ;)
Post by: Courage on Apr 08, 2013 at 09:21 PM
+100 regarding Cal's cables...
I'm using them right now sa audio speakers ko and trying one sa center channel sa HT...
You could really hear the difference... ;)
How much ba ang speaker cable ni Cal? terminated na ba? PM me nga brader, matagal na akong kating kati ang nag kukulay green kong cable eh..
Post by: armymanhaha on May 31, 2013 at 10:39 PM
Post by: sientobente on Jun 04, 2013 at 08:40 PM
San kaya makakuha PSB headphones?I think you can get that from amazon or crutchfield. read the reviews on those m4u2s, and it seemed like excellent headphones but I find too expensive for $500. I also saw comments about it not being comfortable because of the clamping force and also found issues on it's build where the headband has a tendency to crack.
i guess speaker designers still have a long way to go on headphones.
Post by: luis on Jun 07, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Thanks Amiel and Rex for the audition, highly recommended sellers... :)
Post by: melbourne on Jun 07, 2013 at 11:42 AM
share lang ako ng audition kahapon. was looking for a BS for my office about 4 sq meters, tested about 4 brands and 5 models. it was with psb that i felt (ramdam) the sound. it went down to B6 vs B5. IMHO, B5 having less lows had a better balance among high, mid and low. in terms of SQ, B5 is not very far from B6, the same qualities, the same path. only difference in SQ is due to size. both are bang for the buck, very PSB.
Thanks Amiel and Rex for the audition, highly recommended sellers... :)
Nice review brader. You can never go wrong with PSB speakers. Rex is also very accommodating when it comes to audio needs.
Post by: rexFi on Jun 07, 2013 at 09:30 PM
Post by: sientobente on Jun 07, 2013 at 09:35 PM
Just got the B6 kanina... :) lakas nga ng bass. Had to adjust and turn off the Tone Defeat. :)Congrats Master! :)
Post by: rexFi on Jun 07, 2013 at 09:41 PM
Congrats Master! :)
Uyy thanks. Kayo ang mga Master :)
Salamat sa pagImpluwensya sakin ehehe.
Post by: bartender on Jun 07, 2013 at 10:14 PM
Just got the B6 kanina... :) lakas nga ng bass. Had to adjust and turn off the Tone Defeat. :)
Good choice. :)
Post by: grohl on Jun 07, 2013 at 10:28 PM
S500) ang i-pair sa PSB speaker? or pwede rin ba marantz 6004? tia :)
Post by: rexFi on Jun 08, 2013 at 08:28 AM
Good choice. :)
Yep. Pero namimiss ko parin tunog ng B1. :)
magbuo ako ng 2.1 next year with subseries 1 ;D
mga masters newbie lang po, ok rin ba pag yamaha integrated amp( A-
S500) ang i-pair sa PSB speaker? or pwede rin ba marantz 6004? tia :)
Yeh san kaya pwede audition. :)
Post by: sientobente on Jun 08, 2013 at 08:40 AM
mga masters newbie lang po, ok rin ba pag yamaha integrated amp( A-what hifi in makati cinema square carries yamaha. You can try that combo from there. My impression on the s500 is, its similar to NAD with good bass weight. The sonic character may be a bit brighter though but not fatiguing. And as far as I remember it also has a forward sound which would add to the already forward and engaging sound psb has.
S500) ang i-pair sa PSB speaker? or pwede rin ba marantz 6004? tia :)
By the way, which specific psb model are you eyeing?
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 08, 2013 at 08:50 AM
But yeah. Id vouch for the NAD PSB combo. I was initially a Rotel guy but it was not the impact I was looking for. IMO my upgrade (or sidegrade) to NAD made the music more involving.
Post by: rexFi on Jun 08, 2013 at 09:21 AM
Haha OT pero I cant help but notice the "Wade please help us" banner >:D
But yeah. Id vouch for the NAD PSB combo. I was initially a Rotel guy but it was not the impact I was looking for. IMO my upgrade (or sidegrade) to NAD made the music more involving.
Hehe yeh , kulang pa pala yang sa banner/sig ko. :)
Post by: melbourne on Jun 08, 2013 at 09:46 AM
Haha OT pero I cant help but notice the "Wade please help us" banner >:D
But yeah. Id vouch for the NAD PSB combo. I was initially a Rotel guy but it was not the impact I was looking for. IMO my upgrade (or sidegrade) to NAD made the music more involving.
My first choice was rotel1520 and B&W685 combo and I end up getting the NAD375bee and PSB Imagine B. It was a blind purchase because I have not heard from this two combos before making the purchase since I don't have the luxury to audition the gears in manila. I only rely on the reviews of Master Gerard and Courage on the NAD and PSB combo which made me decide without second thoughts to go on this route. All I can say is that I am very happy with my decision and truly NAD and PSB combo rocks! With the addition of SVS SB12NSD subwoofer to boost my cravings for bass, my audio nirvana takes me up to another level. I would describe it in one word as "Superb".
Post by: melbourne on Jun 08, 2013 at 09:48 AM
Hehe yeh , kulang pa pala yang sa banner/sig ko. :)
Hahaha kulang pa. Wala si Lebron James and Bosh
Post by: grohl on Jun 08, 2013 at 09:36 PM
what hifi in makati cinema square carries yamaha. You can try that combo from there. My impression on the s500 is, its similar to NAD with good bass weight. The sonic character may be a bit brighter though but not fatiguing. And as far as I remember it also has a forward sound which would add to the already forward and engaging sound psb has.
By the way, which specific psb model are you eyeing?
hi Sir sientobente, thank you for the reply, the image B5 model is the one i like.
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM
My first choice was rotel1520 and B&W685 combo and I end up getting the NAD375bee and PSB Imagine B. It was a blind purchase because I have not heard from this two combos before making the purchase since I don't have the luxury to audition the gears in manila. I only rely on the reviews of Master Gerard and Courage on the NAD and PSB combo which made me decide without second thoughts to go on this route. All I can say is that I am very happy with my decision and truly NAD and PSB combo rocks! With the addition of SVS SB12NSD subwoofer to boost my cravings for bass, my audio nirvana takes me up to another level. I would describe it in one word as "Superb".
im also looking to add a sub to my system. how's the inegration naman ng SVS sa imagines mo sir?
Post by: AppleMan on Jun 10, 2013 at 04:31 PM
Post by: bartender on Jun 10, 2013 at 05:21 PM
Yep. Pero namimiss ko parin tunog ng B1. :)
Yan ang gamit ko sa maliit kong office paired with a tube amp and cd player.
Post by: sientobente on Jun 10, 2013 at 06:32 PM
Foe further feedback, Courage owns a yamaha/psb set while Beginner has a marantz/psb combo ;)
hi Sir sientobente, thank you for the reply, the image B5 model is the one i like.
Post by: melbourne on Jun 11, 2013 at 10:20 AM
im also looking to add a sub to my system. how's the inegration naman ng SVS sa imagines mo sir?
At first, I am not satisfied with the sound quality to a point that I am planning to sell it in the MP. After a lot of tweaking on the cut off settings, phase adjustments and sub placement, my patience was finally rewarded. I now believe that a sub can truly supplement an audio system if it is done right. My PSB Imagine B speakers and SVS SB12nsd integrates flawlessly and the sound quality is at its best. My only gripe is that SVS SB12nsd sub does not have "high level inputs".
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM
Congrats Bro. rexy atlast natupad na din yung inaasam-asam mo na B6, yan ba yung nasa MP ? TIA!
bnew binili nya hehehe
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:12 PM
Foe further feedback, Courage owns a yamaha/psb set while Beginner has a marantz/psb combo ;)
dito pala tumatambay yung mga Master ko...hehe
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:18 PM
dito pala tumatambay yung mga Master ko...hehe
Nakasama ka ba last sat? Nagkita yata mga master mo.
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:20 PM
Nakasama ka ba last sat? Nagkita yata mga master mo.
naku Brader mahirap sumabay sa mga Master ko hnd yan umuuwi ng maaga eh...hehehe
tsaka ang tinatahak ko eh daang matuwid na... :)
Post by: sientobente on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:20 PM
Nakasama ka ba last sat? Nagkita yata mga master mo.
hindi kami natutuloy, kapag wala ang idol namin na si pau. magaling kasi magrefer yun ng best spots to "audition".
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:24 PM
hindi kami natutuloy, kapag wala ang idol namin na si pau. magaling kasi magrefer yun ng best spots to "audition".
ikinalulungkot ko Brader... mahigpit na ipinagbabawal sa aming relihiyon ang pagsama sa mga malalaswang lugar
lalo pag ang ilaw ay patay sindi... :)
teka kailan nyo ba plano?...waaaahhh!!!
Post by: melbourne on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:24 PM
naku Brader mahirap sumabay sa mga Master ko hnd yan umuuwi ng maaga eh...hehehe
tsaka ang tinatahak ko eh daang matuwid na... :)
Hahaha daang matuwid na brader.
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:29 PM
Hahaha daang matuwid na brader.
yang si Jason at Gerard ay mga stockholder ng Istarbaks kaya mahirap sabayan....hehe
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:32 PM
teka kailan nyo ba plano?...waaaahhh!!!
huli ka balbon hahaha..
Oi OT na tayo dun tayo sa mga thread niyo baka masita tayo ng pulis pangkalawakan. >:D >:D
Post by: melbourne on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:32 PM
yang si Jason at Gerard ay mga stockholder ng Istarbaks kaya mahirap sabayan....hehe
Oo nga brader. May sarili silang EB sa istarbucks.
Post by: sientobente on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:33 PM
PSB - Pang Star Bucks
yang si Jason at Gerard ay mga stockholder ng Istarbaks kaya mahirap sabayan....hehe
Kaya tayo mahilig dito. Ikaw lang ang nangiiwan Master Pau, at gusto mag try ng B&W.
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:35 PM
huli ka balbon hahaha..
Oi OT na tayo dun tayo sa mga thread niyo baka masita tayo ng pulis pangkalawakan. >:D >:D
Para skin maganda tlaga tunog ng PSB B6.... ayan ah back to the topic...hehe
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:39 PM
PSB - Pang Star Bucks
Kaya tayo mahilig dito. Ikaw lang ang nangiiwan Master Pau, at gusto mag try ng B&W.
pasensya kna brader kailangan ko na kasing ituwid ang buhay ko...
kaya hindi nako sasama sa inyo sa Istarbaks na according sa Tito ko eh
napakadami daw bagong barista.... :)
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 11, 2013 at 05:42 PM
pasensya kna brader kailangan ko na kasing ituwid ang buhay ko...
kaya hindi nako sasama sa inyo sa Istarbaks na according sa Tito ko eh
napakadami daw bagong barista.... :)
Nagusap ang laging nag PSB. ;) ;)
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 11, 2013 at 11:07 PM
At first, I am not satisfied with the sound quality to a point that I am planning to sell it in the MP. After a lot of tweaking on the cut off settings, phase adjustments and sub placement, my patience was finally rewarded. I now believe that a sub can truly supplement an audio system if it is done right. My PSB Imagine B speakers and SVS SB12nsd integrates flawlessly and the sound quality is at its best. My only gripe is that SVS SB12nsd sub does not have "high level inputs".
yeah yun nga eh walang high level inputs. may ganyang sub rin ako dati to supplement my dynaudio. sinuko ko nalang yung sub hehe. yun lang pala kulang dati, patience. wala ko nun eh hehehe. im gonna try 2x subs na kasi para sa synchrony ko for music lang.
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Jun 12, 2013 at 07:34 AM
PSB - Pang Star Bucks
Kaya tayo mahilig dito. Ikaw lang ang nangiiwan Master Pau, at gusto mag try ng B&W.
akala ko ang ibig sabihin ng PSB eh Pang Sunog Baga
Post by: melbourne on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:08 AM
yeah yun nga eh walang high level inputs. may ganyang sub rin ako dati to supplement my dynaudio. sinuko ko nalang yung sub hehe. yun lang pala kulang dati, patience. wala ko nun eh hehehe. im gonna try 2x subs na kasi para sa synchrony ko for music lang.
Ang PSB sub series meron high level inputs at ang balita ko is very musical daw ang sub na ito. You can ask master Gerard about it. PSB sub series 300 yata ang gamit niya.
Post by: grohl on Jun 12, 2013 at 02:07 PM
Post by: melbourne on Jun 12, 2013 at 03:05 PM
Post by: sientobente on Jun 15, 2013 at 03:03 AM
Ang PSB sub series meron high level inputs at ang balita ko is very musical daw ang sub na ito. You can ask master Gerard about it. PSB sub series 300 yata ang gamit niya.Yes, i think all PSB subs have highlevel inputs even their entry level like the subseries 125. My subseries is very musical for a ported sub. Mine is a 300 but I find the 200 effortless in integrating into music.
If you'd prefer a good sealed sub instead, there is the lovable HD8 or HD10 that has dual passive radiators which can really go loud despite their compact dimensions.
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 15, 2013 at 03:30 AM
Post by: dgmate on Jun 16, 2013 at 07:34 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/degaullemaster/audiosetup2_zps2b1f71be.jpg)
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 16, 2013 at 09:43 PM
Yes, i think all PSB subs have highlevel inputs even their entry level like the subseries 125. My subseries is very musical for a ported sub. Mine is a 300 but I find the 200 effortless in integrating into music.
If you'd prefer a good sealed sub instead, there is the lovable HD8 or HD10 that has dual passive radiators which can really go loud despite their compact dimensions.
how much score mo sa subseries 300? I had a hard time integrating an SVS sealed sub dati to my stereo, kaya medyo may trauma na ko. Pero i think it was because due to the lack of my experience :D
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 16, 2013 at 10:20 PM
how much score mo sa subseries 300? I had a hard time integrating an SVS sealed sub dati to my stereo, kaya medyo may trauma na ko. Pero i think it was because due to the lack of my experience :Dbro francis try mo REL..
ayan daw ung sub na madale i integrate sa 2 channel audio...
meron sa MP hehe
Post by: sientobente on Jun 17, 2013 at 01:34 PM
Enjoying my newly acquired Image T5.:) thank you Watts hifi and Rex
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/degaullemaster/audiosetup2_zps2b1f71be.jpg)
Great choice of speakers sir! Congrats! :)
@armymanhaha
Sent PM. The 300 is listed at P41,000. I'm sure Rex can give you a super suki discount on it. Regarding REL, last I checked from their distro in Cebu, they only have the R328 on stock which is a bit expensive. I'm hoping they bring in the REL T5.
Post by: dgmate on Jun 18, 2013 at 07:52 PM
Great choice of speakers sir! Congrats! :)
Thank you sientobente
Post by: Courage on Jun 18, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Yes, i think all PSB subs have highlevel inputs even their entry level like the subseries 125. My subseries is very musical for a ported sub. Mine is a 300 but I find the 200 effortless in integrating into music.
If you'd prefer a good sealed sub instead, there is the lovable HD8 or HD10 that has dual passive radiators which can really go loud despite their compact dimensions.
Maganda yung HD10, maganda din ang presyo.. he he he
Post by: sientobente on Jun 23, 2013 at 05:46 PM
PSB Alpha PS1
(http://64.19.142.11/www.psbspeakers.com/img/img.php?121106083701-Alpha-PS1_Speakers_iPhone_HR.jpg/320)
PSB now joining the powered speaker fray ;)
Post by: rexFi on Jun 28, 2013 at 08:50 AM
Pano best way to clean the rubber surrounds on a speaker? Iwas mamuti and matanggal maayos alikabok? Minimal lang naman. Right now am using a paint brush, bukas pa ko magbaVacuum :)
TIA.
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 28, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Post by: rexFi on Jun 28, 2013 at 10:59 AM
Post by: Lynn on Jul 09, 2013 at 03:59 AM
Enjoying my newly acquired Image T5.:) thank you Watts hifi and Rex
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/degaullemaster/audiosetup2_zps2b1f71be.jpg)
brader review nmn ng T5, balak ko din kumuha nyan... hindi ko lng alm kung same sila ni Mission MX4... 4k up kasi si T5 in terms of price...
Post by: dgmate on Jul 11, 2013 at 05:35 PM
brader review nmn ng T5, balak ko din kumuha nyan... hindi ko lng alm kung same sila ni Mission MX4... 4k up kasi si T5 in terms of price...
Very pure sound. Malinis. I like the extended highs and palpable sweetness. I enjoy listening to it specially the audiophile voices CDs.
Post by: Lynn on Aug 23, 2013 at 07:45 PM
Very pure sound. Malinis. I like the extended highs and palpable sweetness. I enjoy listening to it specially the audiophile voices CDs.
Galing din ako sa PSB eh, musta pala ng high ng T5? issue ko sa B6 eh sobra sa sharp (paired w/ rotel), pero lahat maganda na lalo ang low's attack kung attack at ang bilis.
Post by: Conan on Aug 23, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Galing din ako sa PSB eh, musta pala ng high ng T5? issue ko sa B6 eh sobra sa sharp (paired w/ rotel), pero lahat maganda na lalo ang low's attack kung attack at ang bilis.
PSB B6 sounds best paired with NAD.
Post by: armymanhaha on Aug 24, 2013 at 09:21 AM
Post by: sientobente on Aug 24, 2013 at 09:35 AM
Post by: Courage on Aug 24, 2013 at 07:56 PM
When I had my PSB Synchrony paired with the Rotel 1520 I found it nice sounding too but with treble bite that is fatiguing over time. I switched to the NAD 375 and it resolved the synergy issue and everything is well.
NAD + PSB = SURE WINNER.....
Post by: armymanhaha on Aug 24, 2013 at 09:42 PM
did some weekend cleaning today. tinabi ko muna sila.
Post by: Lynn on Aug 24, 2013 at 11:34 PM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2rq0isj.jpg)
did some weekend cleaning today. tinabi ko muna sila.
Ang pogi naman... :)
Ganun ba... NAD lang pala katapat... well nag shift na ako sa FS Mission, as of now pasok naman sa gusto kong sound, pero mas mabilis ang low's ng PSB.
Post by: armymanhaha on Aug 24, 2013 at 11:55 PM
Post by: melbourne on Aug 25, 2013 at 06:29 AM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2rq0isj.jpg)
did some weekend cleaning today. tinabi ko muna sila.
Nice gears brader. SVS Sb12nsd ba ang sub mo?
Post by: armymanhaha on Aug 25, 2013 at 08:31 AM
Post by: melbourne on Sep 04, 2013 at 10:09 AM
Yes sir. Hopefully makakuha pa ng isa by next month :D
Wow! dual sub pala ang target mo brader. By the way, what's the sonic character of Synchrony One B compared to Imagine B?
Post by: sientobente on Sep 04, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Wow! dual sub pala ang target mo brader. By the way, what's the sonic character of Synchrony One B compared to Imagine B?Very transparent ang Synchrony master. Close your eyes and you'll feel that you're in the same room as the singer. Ganun ka ganda ang Synchrony. *sigh* Kelan kaya ako mananalo sa lotto :D
Post by: Lancito on Sep 04, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Post by: sientobente on Sep 04, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Post by: armymanhaha on Sep 04, 2013 at 11:22 AM
I found the Synchrony has a more refined treble. It makes the Imagine seem brighter although, both are designed by Paul Barton so one would assume that they are both designed to be flat. The Imagine B is something that you would consider warm-sounding already after all it was compared to a Harbeth by a Stereophile reviewer. The One B also has more bass, more punchy, and goes lower due to cabinet and driver size. The mids is cleaner with the Synchrony IMO. The Synchrony One B excels in imaging and depth perception too, I mean like crazy man!
BUT Ang nag trigger sakin bumili ng Synchrony One B was when I compared it to the Dynaudio Excite x16.
Post by: melbourne on Sep 10, 2013 at 02:08 PM
Very transparent ang Synchrony master. Close your eyes and you'll feel that you're in the same room as the singer. Ganun ka ganda ang Synchrony. *sigh* Kelan kaya ako mananalo sa lotto :D
Maganda pala talaga ang synchrony one b master. Now I know what speaker to buy when I upgrade my audio set up.
Post by: melbourne on Sep 10, 2013 at 02:20 PM
Hmm. My audition with the imagine b was really short parang 10-15mins lang, and may katagalan na yun so take this with a grain of salt.
I found the Synchrony has a more refined treble. It makes the Imagine seem brighter although, both are designed by Paul Barton so one would assume that they are both designed to be flat. The Imagine B is something that you would consider warm-sounding already after all it was compared to a Harbeth by a Stereophile reviewer. The One B also has more bass, more punchy, and goes lower due to cabinet and driver size. The mids is cleaner with the Synchrony IMO. The Synchrony One B excels in imaging and depth perception too, I mean like crazy man!
BUT Ang nag trigger sakin bumili ng Synchrony One B was when I compared it to the Dynaudio Excite x16.
Nice and very detailed review of Synchrony One B brader. I am convinced that synchrony one B is definitely a way to go for an upgrade to my Imagine B. Pa-pm naman kung magkano ang discounted price na bigay ni Rex sa yo?
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 10, 2013 at 02:23 PM
Nice and very detailed review of Synchrony One B brader. I am convinced that synchrony one B is definitely a way to go for an upgrade to my Imagine B. Pa-pm naman kung magkano ang discounted price na bigay ni Rex sa yo?naku may sars ka na brader hahaha
Post by: melbourne on Sep 10, 2013 at 05:17 PM
naku may sars ka na brader hahaha
Hindi tatalab sa akin ang SARS na yan brader. Mabisa ang vaccine ko hahaha.
Post by: chicosci on Oct 05, 2013 at 12:58 AM
What back speakers do you recommend to pair with a Image B6 and Image C5 speakers? Not to expensive (below 20k) but will blend with the speakers well.
Thank you :)
Post by: sientobente on Oct 05, 2013 at 01:04 AM
Post by: armymanhaha on Oct 06, 2013 at 05:35 PM
Post by: luis on Oct 07, 2013 at 10:29 AM
You can get another set of B6 or can go with a smaller model like a B5 or B4. An Alpha B1 also works well, this is what I use as surround speakers paired with my T6.
+1 :)
Post by: sientobente on Oct 07, 2013 at 12:29 PM
(http://cdn.avsforum.com/6/65/900x900px-LL-6593e947_psb-s300.jpeg)
the published specs by psb seems to be under rated as it seems to do +/- 3db @ 21Hz easily.
the author also compared this with his other subs. quite impressive results with such a small footprint.
(http://cdn.avsforum.com/2/21/900x900px-LL-21e55515_all_subs.jpeg)
(http://cdn.avsforum.com/4/4e/900x900px-LL-4ed4c51c_Data.jpeg)
source: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1476987/any-thoughts-on-psb-subseries-500-subwoofer
Post by: rexFi on Oct 07, 2013 at 12:33 PM
Inaabangan ko nga ehehe.
Post by: sientobente on Oct 12, 2013 at 06:47 PM
^ so far wala akong nakikita nagbebenta ng used SubSeries 300 sa MP.Bili ka na master. I never dreamt of upgrading or replacing mine. I only dream of adding another one. Sulit na sulit. A highly flexible sub that can make you feel not just hear those heavy bass scenes. Very clean sounding and has good room interaction. Integrates well into music making the sound stage larger than it is. It also performs very well in terms of decay and tightness for a ported sub. An added advantage is the smaller footprint it has compared to its competitors. :)
Inaabangan ko nga ehehe.
Post by: meat_eater on Nov 01, 2013 at 04:04 AM
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 01, 2013 at 07:49 AM
Post by: luis on Nov 06, 2013 at 02:34 PM
Do psb speakers match well with tube amps?
try to audition sir in watt hihi MCS.
i used to have imagine b paired with bada vaccum tube (45 wpc ultra/22 wpc triode). in terms of power sounds like a floor stander. in terms of SQ smooth, detailed, forgiving highs, clear mids and plenty of lows. in terms of character, warm, engaging, no complaints.
:)
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 09, 2013 at 02:08 PM
http://www.stereophile.com/content/psb-imagine-t2-tower-loudspeaker
Post by: Lancito on Nov 11, 2013 at 06:03 PM
Post by: meat_eater on Nov 11, 2013 at 08:32 PM
I was impressed by how the speakers deliver the midrange, excellent in reproducing male and female vocals.
However, i find the highs to be thin sounding.
Overall, I find the build quality and sound quality were very good for the price.
*Show demo was an Image B6 + NAD 326bee + NAD DAC + MACbook AIR
Post by: rexFi on Nov 11, 2013 at 09:15 PM
Questionable lang sakin yung source siguro(mac).
Post by: Stagea on Nov 12, 2013 at 12:18 AM
Questionable lang sakin yung source siguro(mac).
I think the questionable part is that they were running iTunes (afaik). Amarra or Audirvana would likely deliver better results.
The setup was still satisfying to listen to, imo.
Post by: luis on Nov 12, 2013 at 11:33 AM
i thought they would at least showcase the imagine series to create a lasting impression on the brand. other exhibitors were showcasing their high-end if not their reference series.
well, this is just me though.
:)
Post by: deist on Nov 12, 2013 at 11:53 AM
I think the questionable part is that they were running iTunes (afaik). Amarra or Audirvana would likely deliver better results.
This is what I noticed too (the Tannoy room as well), they could've used a more "audiophile" software player to showcase their product in the event, there's a 15 day trial naman for the said softwares.
Post by: Courage on Nov 12, 2013 at 12:25 PM
I think the questionable part is that they were running iTunes (afaik). Amarra or Audirvana would likely deliver better results.
The setup was still satisfying to listen to, imo.
+1 on source
I have tested on my T6
Popcorn hour C200 via Coaxial + Rega DAC + Nad 275 + Nad 165
VS
Laptop Jriver + Music Fidelity VLink 192 via Coaxial + Rega Dac + Nad 275 + Nad 165
Using same FLAC Files side by side Playing just changing the Input source on the Pre-Amp..
Ang layo ng difference between two sources while all other things are equal.. Dito ko nalaman na Laki din pala impact ng maganda ang source...
Post by: melbourne on Nov 12, 2013 at 02:02 PM
+1 on source
I have tested on my T6
Popcorn hour C200 via Coaxial + Rega DAC + Nad 275 + Nad 165
VS
Laptop Jriver + Music Fidelity VLink 192 via Coaxial + Rega Dac + Nad 275 + Nad 165
Using same FLAC Files side by side Playing just changing the Input source on the Pre-Amp..
Ang layo ng difference between two sources while all other things are equal.. Dito ko nalaman na Laki din pala impact ng maganda ang source...
Alin sa dalawang set up mas better ang result brader Jason?
Post by: meat_eater on Nov 12, 2013 at 08:04 PM
+1 on source
I have tested on my T6
Popcorn hour C200 via Coaxial + Rega DAC + Nad 275 + Nad 165
VS
Laptop Jriver + Music Fidelity VLink 192 via Coaxial + Rega Dac + Nad 275 + Nad 165
Using same FLAC Files side by side Playing just changing the Input source on the Pre-Amp..
Ang layo ng difference between two sources while all other things are equal.. Dito ko nalaman na Laki din pala impact ng maganda ang source...
The source is for me, the most important part of the chain. As they say - Garbage in, garbage out.
This is most evident if you have a transparent system :)
Guess lang, I think the laptop gave the better SQ ;) hula lang :D
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 13, 2013 at 06:02 AM
Post by: Courage on Nov 13, 2013 at 01:22 PM
Alin sa dalawang set up mas better ang result brader Jason?
Laptop is more than a lot better than using the C200. Ang layo ng difference.. Naging Dull ang tunog ng system using the C200. Di maganda ang detail, bass and soundstage using the C200. I guess pang movie lang talaga sya. Akala ko pa naman pwede ko gamitin dedicated music player..
Post by: Courage on Nov 13, 2013 at 01:22 PM
I do believe that too. The 375bee is very revealing of sources too. I can easily distinguish the differences between a Nad375dac, musiland03, and a musical fidelity v90. Kaya nga plan ko nalang is get a real good dac either naim dac v1 or nad m51 in the very near future :)
NAD M51 - Dream Dac ko to he he he...
Post by: melbourne on Nov 13, 2013 at 02:10 PM
NAD M51 - Dream Dac ko to he he he...
Magkano kaya ang DAC na to brader Jason?
I do believe that too. The 375bee is very revealing of sources too. I can easily distinguish the differences between a Nad375dac, musiland03, and a musical fidelity v90. Kaya nga plan ko nalang is get a real good dac either naim dac v1 or nad m51 in the very near future :)
Bili ka na brader Francis then bigay ka ng review. I am also planning to get a DAC but I don't know what brand to buy and I don't know if it fits my budget.
Post by: Courage on Nov 13, 2013 at 03:24 PM
Magkano kaya ang DAC na to brader Jason?
Bili ka na brader Francis then bigay ka ng review. I am also planning to get a DAC but I don't know what brand to buy and I don't know if it fits my budget.
Brader,
Maganda ang REGA DAC di ka mag sisisi pramis....
Yung M51 nasa 80k sa US kaya pangarap.. Actually di ko pa nadidinig yan... though maganda nga reviews..
Pero kung ganda din lang.. Maganda talaga ang REGA...
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 13, 2013 at 04:04 PM
Post by: melbourne on Nov 13, 2013 at 04:09 PM
Post by: rexFi on Nov 13, 2013 at 04:35 PM
;D
Post by: Courage on Nov 13, 2013 at 04:44 PM
Dito atah sa thread na ito pinakamaraming mangkukulam sa PDVD ah? HEHE. :-X
;D
Oo nga... Grabe sila noh?
Post by: Courage on Nov 13, 2013 at 04:46 PM
Yun originally plano ko, get a Rega DAC ang be over with it. Kaso naisip ko mangangati ulit ako nun and i've been planning on going separates din for my amplification. So naisip ko, yung gagastusin ko sa preamp in the future, invest ko nalang sa DAC na pwedeng gawing pre-amp, hence those 2 options :)
ANg mahal ng 2 options mo he he he.... Sa pangarapo ko lang options yan he he he... Anyway i'm sure matagal kang liligaya alin man sa dalawang option ang piliin mo... Pero boto ako sa NAD kasi NAD addict ako he he he
Post by: Courage on Nov 13, 2013 at 04:47 PM
Nagbabasa ako ngayon ng reviews ng NAD M51 Direct Digital DAC sa isang head-fi.org at ang ganda ng mga reviews. When you revealed to me the price of this mighty DAC my enthusiasm suddenly disappears hehehe. I have a lot of questions in mind regarding DAC before deciding to get one.
Brader kung malapit ka lang sana.. Pinadinig ko sana sayo ang REGA he he he
Post by: melbourne on Nov 13, 2013 at 05:39 PM
Brader kung malapit ka lang sana.. Pinadinig ko sana sayo ang REGA he he he
Padala mo nalang sa akin brader hehehe. Kinukulam mo na naman ako. It's because of you that I got my NAD and PSB combo in no time but I am very happy with it. Seriously, I am considering this DAC.
Post by: Courage on Nov 13, 2013 at 06:50 PM
Padala mo nalang sa akin brader hehehe. Kinukulam mo na naman ako. It's because of you that I got my NAD and PSB combo in no time but I am very happy with it. Seriously, I am considering this DAC.
Ako na nag sasabi sayo.. di ka mag sisisi... Teka ano ba gagamitin mong source?
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 14, 2013 at 06:13 AM
ANg mahal ng 2 options mo he he he.... Sa pangarapo ko lang options yan he he he... Anyway i'm sure matagal kang liligaya alin man sa dalawang option ang piliin mo... Pero boto ako sa NAD kasi NAD addict ako he he he
Eh sir Jason, sa Rega + NAD Preamp mo at onting cash may M51 ka na dapat eh :D hehehehe. Shempre suki ka naman ni sir Rex may discount ka pa dun! :P
M51 + 275... hmmm :D
*kulam attempt
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 14, 2013 at 06:26 AM
Eh sir Jason, sa Rega + NAD Preamp mo at onting cash may M51 ka na dapat eh :D hehehehe. Shempre suki ka naman ni sir Rex may discount ka pa dun! :Plapet na bonus brader francis dadalihin na yan ni boss jason
M51 + 275... hmmm :D
*kulam attempt
Post by: melbourne on Nov 14, 2013 at 09:17 AM
Ako na nag sasabi sayo.. di ka mag sisisi... Teka ano ba gagamitin mong source?
Ano ba ang i-recommend mong source?
Post by: melbourne on Nov 14, 2013 at 09:18 AM
Eh sir Jason, sa Rega + NAD Preamp mo at onting cash may M51 ka na dapat eh :D hehehehe. Shempre suki ka naman ni sir Rex may discount ka pa dun! :P
M51 + 275... hmmm :D
Ito din ang nasa isip ko brader francis.
*kulam attempt
Post by: Courage on Nov 14, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Ano ba ang i-recommend mong source?
Brader, Source ko kasi is Laptop and NAD CD Player.. yung entry level..
Flexible kasi laptop, i can play any music and as much music i want without worrying on CD's.. Yung CD player ko naman, i use on a few collections that i have.. I use more my laptop as i have around 40k plus collections on FLAC, MP3, APE and WAVS.. I also have some 24/96 and 24/192 files that i use for testing he he he
Post by: Courage on Nov 14, 2013 at 10:30 AM
Eh sir Jason, sa Rega + NAD Preamp mo at onting cash may M51 ka na dapat eh :D hehehehe. Shempre suki ka naman ni sir Rex may discount ka pa dun! :P
M51 + 275... hmmm :D
*kulam attempt
Ha ha ha.... Muntik na ako mag attempt na kumuha ng M51 but checking with what i have... i'm more than happy with the result SQ wise so di ko na naisip mag spend ulit for upgrade.. Simula nung na kontento na ako di ko na ulit naisip gumastos sa Audio he he he...
Hoy Derick,
Nilabas ko na ang Audio setup ko sa Sala.. so i'm using my T6 for Audio and using my B6 as fronts for my HT. Tapos surrounds, i'm just using those surrounds that came with Mini compo... yung Back surround ko dati nung nag punta kayo he he he... Panalo pa din... Thats the reason i'm looking for stands for my B6
Post by: melbourne on Nov 14, 2013 at 10:36 AM
Brader, Source ko kasi is Laptop and NAD CD Player.. yung entry level..
Flexible kasi laptop, i can play any music and as much music i want without worrying on CD's.. Yung CD player ko naman, i use on a few collections that i have.. I use more my laptop as i have around 40k plus collections on FLAC, MP3, APE and WAVS.. I also have some 24/96 and 24/192 files that i use for testing he he he
Pareho lang tayo ng source brader. I also have a sony viao laptop and a Nad C515bee cd player. Wala lang akong collections ng songs kagaya mo. When you sell the asus laptop in the MP gusto ko sanang bilhin yon kasi may laman ng mga songs collection mo kaso medyo tight sa budget that time.
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 14, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Ha ha ha.... Muntik na ako mag attempt na kumuha ng M51 but checking with what i have... i'm more than happy with the result SQ wise so di ko na naisip mag spend ulit for upgrade.. Simula nung na kontento na ako di ko na ulit naisip gumastos sa Audio he he he...
Hoy Derick,
Nilabas ko na ang Audio setup ko sa Sala.. so i'm using my T6 for Audio and using my B6 as fronts for my HT. Tapos surrounds, i'm just using those surrounds that came with Mini compo... yung Back surround ko dati nung nag punta kayo he he he... Panalo pa din... Thats the reason i'm looking for stands for my B6
Hay naku sis...
Dapat kasi kumuha kana nang Imagine T para sa audio >:D
Post by: Courage on Nov 14, 2013 at 01:46 PM
Hay naku sis...
Dapat kasi kumuha kana nang Imagine T para sa audio >:D
Tumigil ka... Di mo ako makukulam sa Imagine T dahil ang gusto ko eh yung T2 ha ha ha
Post by: melbourne on Nov 14, 2013 at 01:49 PM
Tumigil ka... Di mo ako makukulam sa Imagine T dahil ang gusto ko eh yung T2 ha ha ha
Hahaha kinukulam ang sarili.
Post by: Courage on Nov 14, 2013 at 02:00 PM
Hahaha kinukulam ang sarili.
ANo brader... Rega na?
Post by: melbourne on Nov 14, 2013 at 02:10 PM
ANo brader... Rega na?
May mga questions pa kasi ako regarding DAC brader pero pasok na sa budget ang Rega. Yon pa rin ba ang mobile number mo?
Post by: mykel18 on Nov 14, 2013 at 02:32 PM
Post by: Courage on Nov 14, 2013 at 03:05 PM
Isa din sa mga choices ko dati yang Rega DAC at Nad M51. Cons lang ng Rega ay yung USB input nya since it supports 16bit 48kHz below lang.
Yup.. thats the reason i bought the Music Fidelity Vlink 192..USB-Digital converter.. so i can play my hi res file from my laptop to rega dac using coaxial interface
Post by: Tsnad on Nov 14, 2013 at 03:08 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 14, 2013 at 03:18 PM
Tumigil ka... Di mo ako makukulam sa Imagine T dahil ang gusto ko eh yung T2 ha ha ha
Aba eh mag Synchrony kana brader!!! >:D
Post by: melbourne on Nov 14, 2013 at 03:47 PM
Aba eh mag Synchrony kana brader!!! >:D
+ 1
Post by: Courage on Nov 15, 2013 at 08:51 AM
Aba eh mag Synchrony kana brader!!! >:D
Wahehehe.. Side by side comparison mas gusto ko tunog ng T2 he he he
Post by: rexFi on Nov 15, 2013 at 12:55 PM
Wahehehe.. Side by side comparison mas gusto ko tunog ng T2 he he he
Sir Synchrony B vs. Image B6?
Hehe anlayo siguro .. pati price. :)
Post by: Courage on Nov 15, 2013 at 01:03 PM
Sir Synchrony B vs. Image B6?
Hehe anlayo siguro .. pati price. :)
Synchrony is neutral.. Image is Warm...
Synchrony has a lot more detail, realism and sounstage.. Though di naman papahuli ang B6... But just imagine the price difference he he he....
Post by: sientobente on Nov 15, 2013 at 02:01 PM
Post by: melbourne on Nov 15, 2013 at 02:11 PM
For me Synchrony is too realistic, too transparent and too hifi for my taste. My wallet can't afford it too ;D
Synchrony is neutral.. Image is Warm...
Synchrony has a lot more detail, realism and sounstage.. Though di naman papahuli ang B6... But just imagine the price difference he he he....
If Synchrony is neutral and Image is warm. Whats the sonic character of the Imagine brader?
Post by: rexFi on Nov 15, 2013 at 02:21 PM
^^
Ahh ok. :) might as well Audition muna pala.
Post by: Courage on Nov 15, 2013 at 02:55 PM
If Synchrony is neutral and Image is warm. Whats the sonic character of the Imagine brader?
In between... Just the way we like it he he he.......
Post by: melbourne on Nov 15, 2013 at 03:16 PM
In between... Just the way we like it he he he.......
Yes, that's true.
Post by: melbourne on Nov 15, 2013 at 03:20 PM
Isa din sa mga choices ko dati yang Rega DAC at Nad M51. Cons lang ng Rega ay yung USB input nya since it supports 16bit 48kHz below lang.
Anong DAC ang gamit mo ngayon brader?
@ Courage
Nagtanong ako kay Rex regarding M51 dac mahal pala talaga. Dalawa na tayo na dream dac ang M51.
Post by: mykel18 on Nov 15, 2013 at 05:49 PM
Anong DAC ang gamit mo ngayon brader?
Di na ko kumuha outboard dac. Kumuha ko network streamer na lang and if need ko ng dac, meron naman sya 3 digital inputs.
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 16, 2013 at 06:25 AM
Post by: melbourne on Nov 16, 2013 at 09:13 AM
Hoy tatlo tayo sa m51 mga tehh. Tagal ng bonus eh haha
Sabay na kayo ni brader Jason kumuha ng M51 para malaki ang discount na ibigay ni Rex. Ako hanggang pangarap nalang ang M51 na yan hahaha.
Post by: mykel18 on Nov 16, 2013 at 09:15 AM
Hoy tatlo tayo sa m51 mga tehh. Tagal ng bonus eh haha
Akala ko nakakuha ka na dati brader eh. Sabay tayo naghihintay nito dati.
Post by: melbourne on Nov 16, 2013 at 09:57 AM
Akala ko nakakuha ka na dati brader eh. Sabay tayo naghihintay nito dati.
Bakit ba mahal ang presyo nito kumpara sa ibang dac brader?
Post by: mykel18 on Nov 16, 2013 at 10:06 AM
Bakit ba mahal ang presyo nito kumpara sa ibang dac brader?
Most likely sa features at sa sound quality. Meron kasi HDMI. Kung kukuha ko ng outboard dac ang target ko na ay Naim DAC. ;D
Post by: melbourne on Nov 16, 2013 at 10:12 AM
Most likely sa features at sa sound quality. Meron kasi HDMI. Kung kukuha ko ng outboard dac ang target ko na ay Naim DAC. ;D
Pareho pala kayo ng choices ni brader Armymanhaha sa DAC. Alin sa dalawa ang mas mura brader?
Post by: mykel18 on Nov 16, 2013 at 02:25 PM
Pareho pala kayo ng choices ni brader Armymanhaha sa DAC. Alin sa dalawa ang mas mura brader?
Yung kay armymanhaha Naim DAC V1. Yung gusto ko yung Naim DAC.
Post by: melbourne on Nov 16, 2013 at 03:54 PM
Yung kay armymanhaha Naim DAC V1. Yung gusto ko yung Naim DAC.
Oo nga pala. Magkaiba pala ang Naim DAC V1 at Naim DAC.
Post by: sientobente on Nov 16, 2013 at 06:45 PM
Sonic character ng imagine master is warm and crisp. Synchrony, bigger sounding while being very transparent.
If Synchrony is neutral and Image is warm. Whats the sonic character of the Imagine brader?
Post by: melbourne on Nov 18, 2013 at 09:10 AM
Sonic character ng imagine master is warm and crisp. Synchrony, bigger sounding while being very transparent.
Thanks for the information master Gerard. Warm and Crisp. The way I like my speaker to sound.
Post by: appamus on Nov 20, 2013 at 03:09 PM
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 21, 2013 at 07:26 AM
punas-punas lang yan sir, kaso ingat you might damage the rubber.
Post by: appamus on Nov 21, 2013 at 09:28 AM
Ganyan di sakin nun. hassle. I had to clean it with glass cleaner. Yung synchrony ko nga nung inuwi ko moist din yung baffle kasi aluminum siya. nung biyahe kasi malamig sa sasakyan tas grabeng philippine heat paglabas hehe.
punas-punas lang yan sir, kaso ingat you might damage the rubber.
Hello, sir armymanhaha. oo nga, sir, mukhang mahirap i-maintain ung rubber parts ng imagine... sana may way na maprotect ung part na un like apply armor all or something para lang d maging madikit. parang nalulusaw kasi cya...
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 21, 2013 at 09:41 AM
Hello, sir armymanhaha. oo nga, sir, mukhang mahirap i-maintain ung rubber parts ng imagine... sana may way na maprotect ung part na un like apply armor all or something para lang d maging madikit. parang nalulusaw kasi cya...
I think thats just wax or oil that they used to protect the rubber from getting cracked sa conditions while being transported. Akala ko din at first natutunaw siya pero after cleaning it up, ayun pogi ulit. Pero kelangan tlaga maingat maglinis lalo na kung OCD ka you have the chance to damage the rubber talaga. Kung walang tiwala sa sarili iwan mo nalang muna sir hehe. Maminimize din naman ata yan pagtagal.
Post by: melbourne on Nov 21, 2013 at 09:43 AM
gud pm, PSB owners. question lang sana regarding the imagine series ng PSB. ano kaya cause ng rubber(ung sa port to the base of the speaker na nasa likod) naging madikit or parang natutunaw? how to dyou prevent this? maraming salamat! :)
I'll check my Imagine B speakers mamaya brader. May issue pala na ganito sa Imagine series ng PSB.
Post by: melbourne on Nov 21, 2013 at 09:44 AM
I think thats just wax or oil that they used to protect the rubber from getting cracked sa conditions while being transported. Akala ko din at first natutunaw siya pero after cleaning it up, ayun pogi ulit. Pero kelangan tlaga maingat maglinis lalo na kung OCD ka you have the chance to damage the rubber talaga. Kung walang tiwala sa sarili iwan mo nalang muna sir hehe. Maminimize din naman ata yan pagtagal.
Anong gamit mo panglinis sa speaker at amp brader Francis?
Post by: gaol on Nov 21, 2013 at 10:09 AM
Also since the metal grilles are heavy and the cloth covering very light and thin, there is a tendency for the cloth to become unglued in the spots where you handle the grilles, in other words, natatanggal sa pagka-dikit. This can happen if you frequently remove and reattach the grilles, so now I leave the grilles off for the fronts and center (the surrounds have their grilles attached all the time). I only reattach them for safety when there are small kids and/or hyperactive kids in the house.
Post by: appamus on Nov 21, 2013 at 11:49 AM
I think thats just wax or oil that they used to protect the rubber from getting cracked sa conditions while being transported. Akala ko din at first natutunaw siya pero after cleaning it up, ayun pogi ulit. Pero kelangan tlaga maingat maglinis lalo na kung OCD ka you have the chance to damage the rubber talaga. Kung walang tiwala sa sarili iwan mo nalang muna sir hehe. Maminimize din naman ata yan pagtagal.
wala pa naman akong imagine na speaker, planning palang :) medyo naghohold back lang kasi sakin ito that is why hanap muna ako ng way kung pano cya maayos kung sakali :)
may nangyari kasi sakin na ganito although sa analog controller naman cya ng ps3. rubber part din cya then after some time na naiwan ko cya sa room na mainit, cguro for a week yata or two, naging ganun cya, like what happened to the rubber part ng imagine na naging sticky... but pinagtatakahan ko lang dun sa imagine is na sa malamig naman cya na lugar(show room ng watt hifi) so bakit kaya nagkaganun parin cya?
pagpinunasan mo naman mas nagiging messy kasi dumidikit ung pampunas. if you get the chance to go to watt hifi, please ask mr. rex to see the imagine b there. d ko kasi talaga ma explain ng maayos. nagtataka din cya why that happened...
right out of the box yata the rubber if flat black(normal rubber texture na bit rough and not shiny and smooth), gusto ko lang sana cya ma-maintain na ganun...
I'll check my Imagine B speakers mamaya brader. May issue pala na ganito sa Imagine series ng PSB.
hello, mr. melbourne, please let me know kung ok ba yung rubber part ng Imagine B nyo.
Thank you very much for you response, sir armymanhaha and sir melbourne
Post by: melbourne on Nov 21, 2013 at 12:13 PM
wala pa naman akong imagine na speaker, planning palang :) medyo naghohold back lang kasi sakin ito that is why hanap muna ako ng way kung pano cya maayos kung sakali :)
may nangyari kasi sakin na ganito although sa analog controller naman cya ng ps3. rubber part din cya then after some time na naiwan ko cya sa room na mainit, cguro for a week yata or two, naging ganun cya, like what happened to the rubber part ng imagine na naging sticky... but pinagtatakahan ko lang dun sa imagine is na sa malamig naman cya na lugar(show room ng watt hifi) so bakit kaya nagkaganun parin cya?
pagpinunasan mo naman mas nagiging messy kasi dumidikit ung pampunas. if you get the chance to go to watt hifi, please ask mr. rex to see the imagine b there. d ko kasi talaga ma explain ng maayos. nagtataka din cya why that happened...
right out of the box yata the rubber if flat black(normal rubber texture na bit rough and not shiny and smooth), gusto ko lang sana cya ma-maintain na ganun...
hello, mr. melbourne, please let me know kung ok ba yung rubber part ng Imagine B nyo.
Thank you very much for you response, sir armymanhaha and sir melbourne
I'll post update mamayang gabi brader appamus. Nasa office pa kasi ako.
Post by: luis on Nov 21, 2013 at 12:42 PM
However, the rubber nipple of my image b5 (center of the woofer) parang malagkit maski nung bago pa sya. yung isa ok, yung isa malagkit. touching it after 3 months hoping it has harden still malagkit.
Calling local Dsitributor and Authorized dealers, kindly shed light. :)
Post by: appamus on Nov 21, 2013 at 12:48 PM
I'll post update mamayang gabi brader appamus. Nasa office pa kasi ako.
thank you, sir melbourne! :)
Post by: appamus on Nov 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM
owned imagine B for 11 months. wiping it with pang-dusting and microfiber every Sunday. used to hold it via bass port at the back pero did not notice any stickiness (or malagkit).
However, the rubber nipple of my image 5 (center of the woofer) parang malagkit maski nung bago pa sya. yung isa ok, yung isa malagkit. touching it after 3 months hoping it has harden still malagkit.
Calling local Dsitributor and Authorized dealers, kindly shed light. :)
hello, sir luis. glad to know na naging ok ung imagine b nyo after 11months. what got me worried kasi is the one that i saw(ung nagkaroon ng tama ung rubber) was a second pair na pala. meaning ganun din pala ung nangyari daw sa unang display unit... i really like this line from PSB. aside from sounding really good, they look so sexy! :)
also. anyone here know where one can get a PSB m4u 2 locally?
Thank you so much for all your response, guys. I really appreciate it :)
Post by: melbourne on Nov 22, 2013 at 09:10 AM
gud pm, PSB owners. question lang sana regarding the imagine series ng PSB. ano kaya cause ng rubber(ung sa port to the base of the speaker na nasa likod) naging madikit or parang natutunaw? how to dyou prevent this? maraming salamat! :)
Checked my Imagine B last night and no indications na dumidikit o natutunaw ang rubber (at the back) from the port to the base of the speakers.
Post by: luis on Nov 22, 2013 at 09:26 AM
:)
Post by: rexFi on Nov 22, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Will try it sa Watts with the Power Amp+Pre combo :)
Sonic character ng imagine master is warm and crisp. Synchrony, bigger sounding while being very transparent.
Thanks for the information master Gerard. Warm and Crisp. The way I like my speaker to sound.
Post by: appamus on Nov 22, 2013 at 05:07 PM
Checked my Imagine B last night and no indications na dumidikit o natutunaw ang rubber (at the back) from the port to the base of the speakers.
Thank you, sir melbourne :)
Post by: melbourne on Nov 22, 2013 at 05:22 PM
Thank you, sir melbourne :)
You're welcome brader.
Post by: jcfernandez on Nov 22, 2013 at 05:28 PM
Im about to buy a music streamer and a sub. Right now, my source is desktop computer (with asus essence stx) connected to the Rega dac via spdif. No problem with the sound, sound is just awesome to my ears. Kaya lang I need a source other than a computer. May mga times na boung araw akong nakaharap sa computer, and paguwi sa bahay computer pa rin. Im thinking of olive 03, curious about the Marantz 7004 and the NAD 446. Im also considering Naim ND5 pero hindi daw siya available. Can you pls. suggest a good music/network streamer that
1) that can sound better than a computer with a good sound card
2) is readily available here. Kindly give the address of the store na nandoon yong item of interest. Im from the province and….
3) Within the price range of those streamers Ive mentioned
As for the sub, Im leaning towards the PSB or Rel 328. Will be buying these things anytime before 2014. Cant audition these things (physical limitations). If I go to Manila, dapat for for pick up na lang.
Thank you psb experts, and thank you PDVD for giving me this avenue.
Post by: sientobente on Nov 23, 2013 at 05:39 AM
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 23, 2013 at 06:11 AM
I know for a fact naka Synchrony ka din. Ako nag recommend nyan sayo eh hahaha! :D
Im using a single SVS SB12NSD and planning to get a second one after the Holiday craze. I'm not going to recommend you to go SVS only for the sole reason na magiging magkapareho na tayo ng setup kung pati sub recommendation ko eh susundin mo haha (Pareho din tayo ng integrated amp if i remember correctly). This sealed sub is fast enough to go with the quickness of the Synchrony series, and elevating the PRAT-iness of the setup by a good factor (depends on placement and setup).
I think you have great choices from PSB subs and REL although malamang mas maraming magrerecommend ng REL dito because PSB is not really known for their subs albeit they make awesome subs too. REL prices are kind of competitive na din sa marketplace. Please do consider that somewhere along the way you have to have a second sub. The phase issues of only having one sub severely limits ambience retrieval compared to 2x subs. Hindi naman sa nangkukulam but just saying that you will be missing something kung 1 sub lang kunin mo :)
Post by: jcfernandez on Nov 23, 2013 at 11:40 AM
Thanks man….. That time, I was hesitant talaga to buy the synchrony 1b – kasi wala(kokonti) man lang reviews pero I am quite certain na psb ang bibilhin ko – The Imagine B. Sinusundan ko kasi yong thread na to kaya medyo bias ako towards psb. Until ive read one post – I think coming from master sientobeinte – saying na “as if the singer was really there”. Napaisip talaga ako doon and naghanap na ako ng synchrony 1b owner. Yon na yong time na kinukulit ko kayo. More than 20 PM yata yon, then daily pa! Sorry doon, kasi sa sobrang urge ko na magkaroon ng ganitong speaker yet hindi ko kayong i-audition. Three months later, I finally met my speaker kina sir Rex.
Looking back, it was a blind buy relying solely on reviews, feedbacks. Pero pleasingly rewarded naman. Happy and more than satisfied with the outcome.
As for the sub, thanks again sa inputs. Actually Im also considering SVS, malaking bagay sa akin yong offer nila na kayang i-deliver nila sa lugar namin yong item.
Post by: sientobente on Nov 23, 2013 at 11:47 AM
Post by: sientobente on Nov 23, 2013 at 12:00 PM
This is my first post on this thread, I regularly read this thread because I own a psb speaker too and enjoying it that much. I got a little anxious by the previous post re oily rubber port of psb speakers. I checked my speaker immediately pero wala namang oily, nothing of that sort. I remember the very first day, the port was a beauty to watch, the rubber was very soft and shiny black, its like -- it’s a crime to touch them. My speakers are now 11month old and I regularly clean them, yon nga lang – hindi ko na ginagalaw yong likod, baka madamage ko pa. Also, my room is hot, really hot lalo na pag wala ako, malamig lang sya pag nandiyan na ako.Sir, what player are you using to play music via your PC? I use foobar kasi and I have a remote on both my android phone and my ipad. When I start up my PC, I dont even have to turn the monitor on and I just use the remote to select the songs I wanted to play. The nice thing about the last update I got for foobar controller was the ability to turn off my PC. Its a cheap option, very practical and effective ;)
Im about to buy a music streamer and a sub. Right now, my source is desktop computer (with asus essence stx) connected to the Rega dac via spdif. No problem with the sound, sound is just awesome to my ears. Kaya lang I need a source other than a computer. May mga times na boung araw akong nakaharap sa computer, and paguwi sa bahay computer pa rin. Im thinking of olive 03, curious about the Marantz 7004 and the NAD 446. Im also considering Naim ND5 pero hindi daw siya available. Can you pls. suggest a good music/network streamer that
1) that can sound better than a computer with a good sound card
2) is readily available here. Kindly give the address of the store na nandoon yong item of interest. Im from the province and….
3) Within the price range of those streamers Ive mentioned
As for the sub, Im leaning towards the PSB or Rel 328. Will be buying these things anytime before 2014. Cant audition these things (physical limitations). If I go to Manila, dapat for for pick up na lang.
Thank you psb experts, and thank you PDVD for giving me this avenue.
Post by: jcfernandez on Nov 23, 2013 at 12:42 PM
Talaga???Thanks sa info. got to try that. sa ngayon , im using foobar. Ano yon? yong foobar app ng ipad?? ma- try ko nga. thanks very much
Post by: melbourne on Nov 23, 2013 at 03:41 PM
Got curious too on the oily port thing. My t6 looks fine, no signs of moisture while my alpha b1's port may be oil-resistant because its made of smooth plastic. Just glad my speakers doesnt have those symptoms.
My speakers doesn't have those symptoms too. We consider ourselves lucky master Gerard.
Post by: melbourne on Nov 23, 2013 at 03:44 PM
@jcfernandez
I know for a fact naka Synchrony ka din. Ako nag recommend nyan sayo eh hahaha! :D
Im using a single SVS SB12NSD and planning to get a second one after the Holiday craze. I'm not going to recommend you to go SVS only for the sole reason na magiging magkapareho na tayo ng setup kung pati sub recommendation ko eh susundin mo haha (Pareho din tayo ng integrated amp if i remember correctly). This sealed sub is fast enough to go with the quickness of the Synchrony series, and elevating the PRAT-iness of the setup by a good factor (depends on placement and setup).
I think you have great choices from PSB subs and REL although malamang mas maraming magrerecommend ng REL dito because PSB is not really known for their subs albeit they make awesome subs too. REL prices are kind of competitive na din sa marketplace. Please do consider that somewhere along the way you have to have a second sub. The phase issues of only having one sub severely limits ambience retrieval compared to 2x subs. Hindi naman sa nangkukulam but just saying that you will be missing something kung 1 sub lang kunin mo :)
Isang simpleng kulam ito brader Francis hahaha. Napa isip tuloy ako na magdagdag ng sub hmmm.
Try nyo sir REL. sobrang bilib ako sa sub na yun. Kahit entry level lang na T5. It has the best integration I ever heard. It will make you think that extra bass were actually coming from your speakers.
Isa ka pa master Gerard. Sana sinabi mo yan sa akin noong hindi pa ako nakabili ng SVS. Napa isip na naman ako dito sa REL na yan hahaha.
Post by: sientobente on Nov 23, 2013 at 04:48 PM
Isang simpleng kulam ito brader Francis hahaha. Napa isip tuloy ako na magdagdag ng sub hmmm.Panalo yun Master Mel, ngayon lang kasi nagkaroon ng distributor REL dito sa pilipinas that stock a lot of items. Yung dati kasi sa cebu, pa-isa isa lang. Ganda pa ng pricing nila dito. Kaya thank you FM Apolinario for bringing this brand to our shores ;)
Isa ka pa master Gerard. Sana sinabi mo yan sa akin noong hindi pa ako nakabili ng SVS. Napa isip na naman ako dito sa REL na yan hahaha.
Post by: sientobente on Nov 23, 2013 at 05:00 PM
@sientobeinteMonkeymote sir sa iOS. Although di sya feauture rich like foobar controller in android na may pc shutdown option. What I do so that foobar is loaded when I start the PC is I put a shortcut under the startup folder in Windows. this way, I dont need to turn my monitor on anymore just to start foobar. Then using the foobar remote, I can browse all the files I have and play them on demand. I dont even need an external wifi dongle because a laptop's wifi is sufficient enough to do the job. What I like too in using foobar vs a regular player is the flexibility to tune the sound in accordance to your preference via its built-in equalizer.
Talaga???Thanks sa info. got to try that. sa ngayon , im using foobar. Ano yon? yong foobar app ng ipad?? ma- try ko nga. thanks very much
Post by: melbourne on Nov 23, 2013 at 05:06 PM
Panalo yun Master Mel, ngayon lang kasi nagkaroon ng distributor REL dito sa pilipinas that stock a lot of items. Yung dati kasi sa cebu, pa-isa isa lang. Ganda pa ng pricing nila dito. Kaya thank you FM Apolinario for bringing this brand to our shores ;)
Pa pm naman ng pricelist ng mga subwoofer nila master. Hindi ako bibili ha. Just want to know if their price is competitive in the market.
Post by: sientobente on Nov 23, 2013 at 05:33 PM
T5 - 29,000
T7 - 48,700
R328 - 65,000
R528 - 85,000
Alam mo naman master may super discount pa tayo kina Rex ;)
Post by: Courage on Nov 23, 2013 at 07:57 PM
REL
T5 - 29,000
T7 - 48,700
R328 - 65,000
R528 - 85,000
Alam mo naman master may super discount pa tayo kina Rex ;)
Brader, alin dyan nadinig mo?
Post by: sientobente on Nov 23, 2013 at 08:46 PM
T5 at r328 idol. T5 pa lang impressive na. Mas maliit pa sya sa psb hd8. Pero for a flexible sub, hd8 pa din. Kakaiba spl power nito e.
Brader, alin dyan nadinig mo?
Post by: Courage on Nov 23, 2013 at 09:20 PM
T5 at r328 idol. T5 pa lang impressive na. Mas maliit pa sya sa psb hd8. Pero for a flexible sub, hd8 pa din. Kakaiba spl power nito e.
How is it sa music? More on musical sub hinahanap ko... he he he
Post by: sientobente on Nov 23, 2013 at 09:57 PM
How is it sa music? More on musical sub hinahanap ko... he he heREL na yan idol. I cant think of a better sub for music than REL. Yung bookshelf mo magtutunog floorstander dahil dito.
Post by: Courage on Nov 23, 2013 at 09:59 PM
REL na yan idol. I cant think of a better sub for music than REL. Yung bookshelf mo magtutunog floorstander dahil dito.
Ok kaya Dual T5 sa PSB B6 for Audio?
Post by: sientobente on Nov 23, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Ok kaya Dual T5 sa PSB B6 for Audio?Kahit single lang idol swak yan. I auditioned the t5 with bass light bookshelves like the epos epic2 and sonus faber minuetto and they immediately compensated the lack of kick from these speakers. For bookshelves with decent bass like the rega rs1, rel actually made the image wider making it sound bigger overall.
Post by: meat_eater on Nov 29, 2013 at 03:23 AM
Current considerations are:
B6/B5 + C5 + B4 (surrounds)
Although timbre matched, if I go the B6 + c5 + b4 route, im thinking since iba iba sila ng driver size, maybe ndi maganda ung transition of sound from left to right, front to back. Of course, crossover points will be adjusted accordingly, and hefty 12 in sub will be used as well.
Floor standers wont be necessary naman, the room is about 10 square meters.
Sa me ganung setup, ok naman ba sia?
AVR used is a Denon 2113.
Thanks :)
Post by: sientobente on Nov 30, 2013 at 01:11 AM
Post by: meat_eater on Nov 30, 2013 at 01:28 AM
That should be a match sir. Those who tried that setup are Courage and Pau_d_mann, the serial chickboys of pdvd. ;)
ooooohhh.... Now im really itching for this build. VOICE of the DEVIL.... hahahahaha
Thanks sir :)
Post by: Courage on Nov 30, 2013 at 09:18 AM
hmmm.... after hearing the B6 nung Hifi show, Im now contemplating on getting one for my ht.
Current considerations are:
B6/B5 + C5 + B4 (surrounds)
Although timbre matched, if I go the B6 + c5 + b4 route, im thinking since iba iba sila ng driver size, maybe ndi maganda ung transition of sound from left to right, front to back. Of course, crossover points will be adjusted accordingly, and hefty 12 in sub will be used as well.
Floor standers wont be necessary naman, the room is about 10 square meters.
Sa me ganung setup, ok naman ba sia?
AVR used is a Denon 2113.
Thanks :)
Konti lang diff ng B6 sa B5, so i suggest you go with B6 for fronts..
This is my current setup now though sa HT since i moved the T6 sa Audio...
B6+C5+B4/B5+12 Inch sub = Panalo he he he
Post by: GXL on Nov 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM
Syncrony one B
Imagine C
MA BXFX
Rel T9
Denon X2000
80% music, 20% HT. Hanggang ganito lang po budget ko kc sir... TIA!
Post by: sientobente on Dec 16, 2013 at 01:02 AM
Sir ask ko lang po opinion nyo, ok po ba ang ganitong set-up sa 12sqm n room (no treatment):I suggest sir to go for the Imagine T instead of the Synchrony if you plan to use it for HT too. Para timbre matched.
Syncrony one B
Imagine C
MA BXFX
Rel T9
Denon X2000
80% music, 20% HT. Hanggang ganito lang po budget ko kc sir... TIA!
Post by: LT on Dec 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM
Alpha T1 or Image B6? (I have stands already)
Post by: melbourne on Dec 16, 2013 at 11:49 AM
Konti lang diff ng B6 sa B5, so i suggest you go with B6 for fronts..
This is my current setup now though sa HT since i moved the T6 sa Audio...
B6+C5+B4/B5+12 Inch sub = Panalo he he he
Nangkulam ka na naman brader Jason.
@ meat_eater
Go with the B6 brader.
Post by: meat_eater on Dec 16, 2013 at 08:17 PM
Nangkulam ka na naman brader Jason.
@ meat_eater
Go with the B6 brader.
Mukhang dun nga.
Now im thinking, whats the better bang for buck for HT, is it going with the PSB image or the DALI Zensors. Hmmmm...
Room is small naman, about 14 ft x 10 ft.
Post by: Courage on Dec 16, 2013 at 08:35 PM
Mukhang dun nga.
Now im thinking, whats the better bang for buck for HT, is it going with the PSB image or the DALI Zensors. Hmmmm...
Room is small naman, about 14 ft x 10 ft.
PSB... I use PSb for both music and ht application..
T6 for music and B6 for ht.. pwede ko rin pag palitin.. i just need a musical sub if im going to use B6 for music.. since walang budget for new sub.. t6 for music, b6 for HT.. maganda pa din in the end he he he
Post by: melbourne on Dec 17, 2013 at 09:39 AM
PSB... I use PSb for both music and ht application..
T6 for music and B6 for ht.. pwede ko rin pag palitin.. i just need a musical sub if im going to use B6 for music.. since walang budget for new sub.. t6 for music, b6 for HT.. maganda pa din in the end he he he
Bili ka na ng REL T5 brader.
Post by: Courage on Dec 17, 2013 at 11:37 PM
Bili ka na ng REL T5 brader.
Pautang brader he he he
Post by: rexFi on Dec 18, 2013 at 02:54 PM
Post by: rexFi on Dec 18, 2013 at 07:17 PM
Ayos siya. Only comparison I can make is with the... Wharf SW150 which I owned and the PSB SubSeries125 which I auditioned some time early this year nga lang.
Di ko maalala kung kelan ko narinig ang SW150 ko noon na.. ganon "kalagkit" and kabigat ang tunog ng Bass ng mga DeadMau5 mp3s ko etc. :) I remember to feel the bass I need to set that sub into 95% volume/level.
Music tracks played(from Orig CDs except for the DeadMau5):
Some Chords - DeadMau5 (from iPod connected via 3.5mm jack and into RCA/Aux)
Change the World - Eric Clapton
On My Way Home - Enya
No Excuses - Alice in Chains
This Love - Pantera
Settings were : HI / Low Level 11o'clock, Crossover... di ko maalala hehe.
I prefer "malagkit" na tunog and mabigat. Parang yun ang description na appropriate based on what my nOob ears heard and what my chest felt. I think this will also be good with Movies.
Aesthetics, maganda siya sa personal. Sexy, petite di mahirap i-Position. :)
Post by: Courage on Dec 18, 2013 at 09:33 PM
;D Guess who Auditioned the Rel T5 + B6 combo earlier? ;D
Ayos siya. Only comparison I can make is with the... Wharf SW150 which I owned and the PSB SubSeries125 which I auditioned some time early this year nga lang.
Di ko maalala kung kelan ko narinig ang SW150 ko noon na.. ganon "kalagkit" and kabigat ang tunog ng Bass ng mga DeadMau5 mp3s ko etc. :) I remember to feel the bass I need to set that sub into 95% volume/level.
Music tracks played(from Orig CDs except for the DeadMau5):
Some Chords - DeadMau5 (from iPod connected via 3.5mm jack and into RCA/Aux)
Change the World - Eric Clapton
On My Way Home - Enya
No Excuses - Alice in Chains
This Love - Pantera
Settings were : HI / Low Level 11o'clock, Crossover... di ko maalala hehe.
I prefer "malagkit" na tunog and mabigat. Parang yun ang description na appropriate based on what my nOob ears heard and what my chest felt. I think this will also be good with Movies.
Aesthetics, maganda siya sa personal. Sexy, petite di mahirap i-Position. :)
So ano na bro? Bibili na ba? He he he
Post by: rexFi on Dec 19, 2013 at 07:20 AM
Hmm, ako lang atah nagaAudition na di bumibili sa Watts kahiya naman hehe
Post by: Courage on Dec 19, 2013 at 08:19 AM
^ wala pa nagpapautang sir eh. ;D
Hmm, ako lang atah nagaAudition na di bumibili sa Watts kahiya naman hehe
He he he... madaming beses ko na ginawa yan sa watts.. mag audition ng di bumibili.. minsan may kape pa he he he.. Oks lang kay Rex yun he he he
Post by: armymanhaha on Dec 19, 2013 at 08:58 AM
Post by: melbourne on Dec 19, 2013 at 09:54 AM
;D Guess who Auditioned the Rel T5 + B6 combo earlier? ;D
Ayos siya. Only comparison I can make is with the... Wharf SW150 which I owned and the PSB SubSeries125 which I auditioned some time early this year nga lang.
Di ko maalala kung kelan ko narinig ang SW150 ko noon na.. ganon "kalagkit" and kabigat ang tunog ng Bass ng mga DeadMau5 mp3s ko etc. :) I remember to feel the bass I need to set that sub into 95% volume/level.
Music tracks played(from Orig CDs except for the DeadMau5):
Some Chords - DeadMau5 (from iPod connected via 3.5mm jack and into RCA/Aux)
Change the World - Eric Clapton
On My Way Home - Enya
No Excuses - Alice in Chains
This Love - Pantera
Settings were : HI / Low Level 11o'clock, Crossover... di ko maalala hehe.
I prefer "malagkit" na tunog and mabigat. Parang yun ang description na appropriate based on what my nOob ears heard and what my chest felt. I think this will also be good with Movies.
Aesthetics, maganda siya sa personal. Sexy, petite di mahirap i-Position. :)
Good review brader. Nag practice ka na mangkulam hehehe.
Post by: melbourne on Dec 19, 2013 at 09:58 AM
He he he... madaming beses ko na ginawa yan sa watts.. mag audition ng di bumibili.. minsan may kape pa he he he.. Oks lang kay Rex yun he he he
Oo nga brader hindi ka nga bumili pero nangkulam ka ng ibang tao para bumili. Isa na ako doon hehehe. Good kulam haha.
Post by: rexFi on Dec 19, 2013 at 11:49 AM
He he he... madaming beses ko na ginawa yan sa watts.. mag audition ng di bumibili.. minsan may kape pa he he he.. Oks lang kay Rex yun he he he
Ahh eh di mamaya pala ulit. MakapagTxt nga hehe. :-X
Next Audition: Rega RP1 + PreAmp Phono Module + 326BEE (+ optional REL T5)
;D
Good review brader. Nag practice ka na mangkulam hehehe.
:) Ok na ok naman talaga ang setup hehe.
Post by: sientobente on Dec 24, 2013 at 02:13 AM
i need your opinion guys. Both speakers seem to be priced similarly. They'll be used for movies and music.
Alpha T1 or Image B6? (I have stands already)
I guess from the total cone area and displacement, the alpha t1 has the edge in bass in this department but dont discount the b6 because it has plenty of bass for a bookshelf. the advantage of the image series vs the alpha is how extended the highs can go. my friend who has golden ears mentioned it has a more airy feel and ambience is wider. sibalance is also smoother in the image series.
Post by: LT on Dec 30, 2013 at 01:20 PM
I guess from the total cone area and displacement, the alpha t1 has the edge in bass in this department but dont discount the b6 because it has plenty of bass for a bookshelf. the advantage of the image series vs the alpha is how extended the highs can go. my friend who has golden ears mentioned it has a more airy feel and ambience is wider. sibalance is also smoother in the image series.
Thanks for the response. Leaning towards the B6. It also seems to be more future proof.
Post by: Courage on Dec 30, 2013 at 01:25 PM
I guess from the total cone area and displacement, the alpha t1 has the edge in bass in this department but dont discount the b6 because it has plenty of bass for a bookshelf. the advantage of the image series vs the alpha is how extended the highs can go. my friend who has golden ears mentioned it has a more airy feel and ambience is wider. sibalance is also smoother in the image series.
Nakaka turn on ang explanation ni Gerard.. Kaya madaming chicks na na bibiktima yan eh...wahahahaha
Post by: sientobente on Dec 31, 2013 at 09:58 AM
Nakaka turn on ang explanation ni Gerard.. Kaya madaming chicks na na bibiktima yan eh...wahahahahaHappy New Year! Wag masyadong magpaputok idol,
Thanks for the response. Leaning towards the B6. It also seems to be more future proof.kayo pala yan sir Niko. Wag po kayo maniniwala dun kay Jason. PSB po yan, Pabling 'saka Babaero! ;)
Post by: Courage on Jan 01, 2014 at 06:06 PM
Happy New Year! Wag masyadong magpaputok idol,kayo pala yan sir Niko. Wag po kayo maniniwala dun kay Jason. PSB po yan, Pabling 'saka Babaero! ;)
Hoy eksyus me...
Pogi Saka Behave - wahahahahaha
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 19, 2014 at 01:03 AM
Tested this on my tube amp and nad cdp, hooked to the 4 ohm tap... I like the sound very much... This thing sounds teally good ;D
One happy psb owner here :)
Bang for buck nga
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 19, 2014 at 01:50 AM
Post by: melbourne on Jan 20, 2014 at 10:28 AM
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff199/x_pit/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsbfda7efa.jpg) (http://s243.photobucket.com/user/x_pit/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsbfda7efa.jpg.html)
Tested this on my tube amp and nad cdp, hooked to the 4 ohm tap... I like the sound very much... This thing sounds teally good ;D
One happy psb owner here :)
Bang for buck nga
Nadagdagan na naman ng isang happy PSB owner. Nice gears brader.
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 20, 2014 at 10:37 AM
Nadagdagan na naman ng isang happy PSB owner. Nice gears brader.
Thanks sir... The b6 sounds really good sa stereo....
Post by: Courage on Jan 20, 2014 at 10:45 AM
Thanks sir... The b6 sounds really good sa stereo....
Yup indeed....
Post by: sientobente on Jan 20, 2014 at 04:50 PM
Thanks sir... The b6 sounds really good sa stereo....try it sir with solid state ;)
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 20, 2014 at 07:16 PM
try it sir with solid state ;)
I have heard it with a nad 326bee... Sounds very good :)
However, I do prefer the sound coming from a valve amp, but then again thats me and my subjective sonic preference :)
The tube amp I use though, is a beefy 38 watt push pull el34 :)
Cheers :)
Post by: rexFi on Jan 20, 2014 at 08:01 PM
me wonders...
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 23, 2014 at 05:37 PM
This is what I use to drive the psb for stereo and ht purposes. :)
Post by: Courage on Jan 23, 2014 at 05:39 PM
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff199/x_pit/Mobile%20Uploads/052CB17D-6071-48F6-89A3-20A2BB411B6A_zpscgd1wpsf.jpg) (http://s243.photobucket.com/user/x_pit/media/Mobile%20Uploads/052CB17D-6071-48F6-89A3-20A2BB411B6A_zpscgd1wpsf.jpg.html)
This is what I use to drive the psb for stereo and ht purposes. :)
Nice... Congrats brader... Ganda tumunog ng PSB noh..
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 23, 2014 at 05:40 PM
Hmm. I am thinking of a next set(up) using an Alpha B1 with some cheap Dareds...
me wonders...
I heard the b6 paired sa mp5... Not bad, esp considering the price ng mp5... :)
Cheers :)
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 23, 2014 at 05:41 PM
Nice... Congrats brader... Ganda tumunog ng PSB noh..
Bang for buck bro!!
Post by: Courage on Jan 23, 2014 at 05:44 PM
Bang for buck bro!!
I know he he he.... Kaya Fanboi ako ng PSB he he he....
Post by: AppleMan on Jan 23, 2014 at 10:59 PM
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 24, 2014 at 07:18 AM
Post by: sientobente on Jan 26, 2014 at 10:26 PM
Post by: sientobente on Jan 27, 2014 at 12:04 AM
Courage
jns888
Jcfernandez
Congrats mga master, naprepressure tuloy ako na bumili na din :)
Post by: rexFi on Jan 27, 2014 at 08:39 AM
Post by: melbourne on Jan 27, 2014 at 05:14 PM
Dumadami pala ang psb+rel users, on my count it's :
Courage
jns888
Jcfernandez
Congrats mga master, naprepressure tuloy ako na bumili na din :)
Bili ka na master Gerard. Nakukulam na rin akong bumili ng REL sub. Parang match talaga siya for PSB dahil sa review ni Jason.
Post by: Courage on Jan 27, 2014 at 08:59 PM
Bili ka na master Gerard. Nakukulam na rin akong bumili ng REL sub. Parang match talaga siya for PSB dahil sa review ni Jason.
Ganda ng combination talaga brader... The Rel made my T6 more bigger.. Bigger Soundstage, improved the midrange, lumabas ang details.. simply amazing...
Bili na kasi brader... i swear talagang di mawawala ang ngiti mo pag narinig mong kumanta ang dalawa(PSb at Rel) he he he
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 28, 2014 at 07:03 AM
Post by: rexFi on Jan 28, 2014 at 07:43 AM
Post by: Courage on Jan 28, 2014 at 08:11 AM
Sige kulam pa! Akala ko may upgrade path na ko. Plano ko kumuha ng isa pang SB12 eh sabay ganyan... :|
Brader di ako nangkukulam he he he... Pero siguradong sasaya ka with REL if you use it for Audio, again di ko pa sya na tetest sa HT ko. I'm enjoying the sub so much with my stereo i dont want to take it away..
As per Rex, dami ng bumili sa kanila ng REL and the purpose is they will be using it for Audio.. Ibang klase talaga.. Di ako gagastos ng ganito kung panget ha ha ha... At nakuha ko pang mag upgrade LECHENG gastos yan... Anyway parang may naiwang hanger sa bibig ko sa sobrang saya..
Post by: bhenard on Jan 28, 2014 at 08:20 AM
Post by: Courage on Jan 28, 2014 at 08:30 AM
I'm using PSB T6 driven by Marantz PM7003 Integ amp,.....so far so good, linis tumunog ;)
Panalo talaga yan sir.. That is my mains too driven by C275BEE... Pero warning dont audition the Imagine T2... I made that mistake ha ha ha...
Post by: melbourne on Jan 28, 2014 at 09:12 AM
Ganda ng combination talaga brader... The Rel made my T6 more bigger.. Bigger Soundstage, improved the midrange, lumabas ang details.. simply amazing...
Bili na kasi brader... i swear talagang di mawawala ang ngiti mo pag narinig mong kumanta ang dalawa(PSb at Rel) he he he
Kailangan ko muna ibenta ang SVS ko saka ako kukuha ng REL baka palalayasin na ako ng misis ko. Kung papalayasin ako, sa inyo ako tutuloy. Ikaw kasi ang dahilan hahaha. I am just wonderin' kung ano ang tunog ng imagine B paired with REL subs.
Post by: Courage on Jan 28, 2014 at 09:26 AM
Kailangan ko muna ibenta ang SVS ko saka ako kukuha ng REL baka palalayasin na ako ng misis ko. Kung papalayasin ako, sa inyo ako tutuloy. Ikaw kasi ang dahilan hahaha. I am just wonderin' kung ano ang tunog ng imagine B paired with REL subs.
Brader wag ka mag alala, tatanggapin ka nya ulit he he he...
I've heard the rel with Imagine T2 which is di naman nalalayo sa Imagine B. one word AWESOME!!!!!! then followed by 3 words... MUST BUY ONE... he he he
With your imagine B, i would say T5, T7 or T9 will do the Job but then again it depends on how large is your room.. Pero you can always go to a higher level(R Serie) because there's no such thing as TOO MUCH in this crazy hobby of ours..
Post by: melbourne on Jan 28, 2014 at 09:35 AM
Brader wag ka mag alala, tatanggapin ka nya ulit he he he...
I've heard the rel with Imagine T2 which is di naman nalalayo sa Imagine B. one word AWESOME!!!!!! then followed by 3 words... MUST BUY ONE... he he he
With your imagine B, i would say T5, T7 or T9 will do the Job but then again it depends on how large is your room.. Pero you can always go to a higher level(R Serie) because there's no such thing as TOO MUCH in this crazy hobby of ours..
Simpleng kulam hahaha.
Post by: sientobente on Jan 28, 2014 at 11:46 AM
Bili ka na master Gerard. Nakukulam na rin akong bumili ng REL sub. Parang match talaga siya for PSB dahil sa review ni Jason.Naku kapag nawala na ang mga bisyo ko, siguro makaka afford na din ako ng REL ;)
Post by: melbourne on Jan 28, 2014 at 11:56 AM
Naku kapag nawala na ang mga bisyo ko, siguro makaka afford na din ako ng REL ;)
Tigilan mo na ang bisyo mo. Ako nalang ang mag assume sa kanila hahaha. Among the REL sub, anong maganda para sa Imagine B?
Post by: sientobente on Jan 28, 2014 at 11:58 AM
Tigilan mo na ang bisyo mo. Ako nalang ang mag assume sa kanila hahaha. Among the REL sub, anong maganda para sa Imagine B?For me, the imagine b has a pretty large soundstage na, so the entry level t5 may not work, I'd suggest maybe a T9 or R328.
Post by: rexFi on Jan 28, 2014 at 02:04 PM
wala ako makita, kahit sa YouTube ng T5 samples.
*pero youtube sya di rin maganda pagBasehan offcourse.
Post by: Courage on Jan 28, 2014 at 02:11 PM
^ So sa B6 ok na T5 ano? :)
wala ako makita, kahit sa YouTube ng T5 samples.
*pero youtube sya di rin maganda pagBasehan offcourse.
It should be ok pero the size will still be dependent on your room size..
Post by: rexFi on Jan 28, 2014 at 02:25 PM
Post by: Courage on Jan 28, 2014 at 02:33 PM
Kung pwede lang iAudition, mismo sa bahay eh noh? ;D
Yan ang the best kaso only a few stores are ok with that...
Post by: rexFi on Jan 28, 2014 at 02:50 PM
Post by: Courage on Jan 28, 2014 at 02:52 PM
Yeh si Pilyo Amp/Sub lang atah pwedeh :)
Si Marc of AVSHOP nag papa home demo of some brands but not all..
Post by: sientobente on Jan 28, 2014 at 06:04 PM
^ So sa B6 ok na T5 ano? :)I think it will. i tried the T5 on a bass heavy bookshelf like a Rega RS1 and it expanded the sound better and added more punch in the low end.
wala ako makita, kahit sa YouTube ng T5 samples.
*pero youtube sya di rin maganda pagBasehan offcourse.
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 28, 2014 at 07:35 PM
However, since both PSB Speakers, in this case the Image and Imagine series and the REL subs give a fairly flat frequency response, the integration of the sub is quite easy, as compared to a sub that peaks and dips radically at certain frequencies (e.g. most comercial subs).
I have integrated my B6, c5, and B4 with a PB12 nsd with relative ease, however that is for HT purposes only. I prefer the speaker (B6) running full range as it is for pure music, albeit of course within the speakers limits, and the room I have is moderately treated (Absorbers, diffusers, bass traps, carpet) and it never ceases to put a smile on my face.
Cheers ;)
Congrats sa mga kumuha ng REL! thats one awesome sub!!! ;D
Post by: rexFi on Jan 28, 2014 at 07:48 PM
...
... I prefer the speaker (B6) running full range as it is for pure music, albeit of course within the speakers limits, and the room I have is moderately treated (Absorbers, diffusers, bass traps, carpet) and it never ceases to put a smile on my face.
Cheers ;)
Congrats sa mga kumuha ng REL! thats one awesome sub!!! ;D
Post by: Courage on Jan 28, 2014 at 08:21 PM
^ that's what Im thinking. nakukulam lang atah talaga ako, pero mukhang ok na talaga sakin B6 lang. :)
Basta eto lang masasabi ko... Pasasayahin ka ng PSB from Alpha line upto Synchrony as i heard them all.. Mapa HT or Music..
Post by: rexFi on Jan 28, 2014 at 08:30 PM
Post by: AppleMan on Jan 28, 2014 at 08:31 PM
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 28, 2014 at 08:37 PM
^_Pero yung B6 ko nung ginamit ko sa 2 channel audio yung amp ko yung Denon AVR-3311 at ang source ko iPod Classic mukhang di ok yung tunog.....hehehehe :(
The source is an ipod = garbage in, garbage out.
Now try setting the speakers to large, DIRECT MODE, and if there is an EQ in place, say the audyssey - turn it off.
That way, the speaker is run full range and pure.
But for music, I suggest an integrated amp, or separates for better results.
Post by: AppleMan on Jan 28, 2014 at 08:43 PM
Post by: Courage on Jan 28, 2014 at 08:50 PM
^_Pero yung B6 ko nung ginamit ko sa 2 channel audio yung amp ko yung Denon AVR-3311 at ang source ko iPod Classic mukhang di ok yung tunog.....hehehehe :(
Pag 2 channel music lang, try setting your speakers to Large...
Post by: AppleMan on Jan 28, 2014 at 09:12 PM
Pag 2 channel music lang, try setting your speakers to Large...
Try ko nga Bro paguwi ko dyan next year hehehe....
Post by: rexFi on Jan 28, 2014 at 09:14 PM
Parang miss ko yung setup na yon dati hehe. Might get another B1 set.
Post by: bhenard on Jan 29, 2014 at 09:24 AM
Panalo talaga yan sir.. That is my mains too driven by C275BEE... Pero warning dont audition the Imagine T2... I made that mistake ha ha ha...Na curious ako ah...halos double the price sir sa T2
Post by: Courage on Jan 29, 2014 at 10:05 AM
Na curious ako ah...halos double the price sir sa T2
Yup, actually more than double... Kaya dont audition it.. He he he
Post by: melbourne on Jan 29, 2014 at 10:10 AM
Yup, actually more than double... Kaya dont audition it.. He he he
Panalo naman pag pinatugtug na lalo na pag sinabayan ng top of the line sub.
Post by: Courage on Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM
Panalo naman pag pinatugtug na lalo na pag sinabayan ng top of the line sub.
Yan nga pag kakamali ko eh.. Pinakinggan ko with the sub... Hayyzzz.... ayaw ko ng gumastos wahhhhhh
Post by: bhenard on Jan 29, 2014 at 10:41 AM
Yup, actually more than double... Kaya dont audition it.. He he heWhat i did is pinakinggan ko na lang yung T2 movie ni Arnold sa T6 ko hehehe. ayos ang sound
Post by: melbourne on Jan 29, 2014 at 10:55 AM
Yan nga pag kakamali ko eh.. Pinakinggan ko with the sub... Hayyzzz.... ayaw ko ng gumastos wahhhhhh
Pakinggan mo brader with dual sub. Mas maganda at mas balance ang result.
Post by: rexFi on Jan 29, 2014 at 12:11 PM
Pakinggan mo brader with dual sub. Mas maganda at mas balance ang result.
Yes sir. Then papost po ng Feedback kung ok talaga dual sub. :)
Post by: Courage on Jan 29, 2014 at 02:01 PM
Yes sir. Then papost po ng Feedback kung ok talaga dual sub. :)
Tumigil kayo mga adik..ha ha ha
Post by: melbourne on Jan 29, 2014 at 02:04 PM
Yes sir. Then papost po ng Feedback kung ok talaga dual sub. :)
Bigyan muna natin ng time brader. Magpo post din yan ng feedback ng dual sub.
Post by: Courage on Jan 29, 2014 at 08:12 PM
Bigyan muna natin ng time brader. Magpo post din yan ng feedback ng dual sub.
Tumigil ka... walamng pambili nun.. he he he...
T2 ang matagal ng pangarap for Audio... hayyzzzzz...
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 29, 2014 at 08:38 PM
Tumigil ka... walamng pambili nun.. he he he...
T2 ang matagal ng pangarap for Audio... hayyzzzzz...
I heard the T2 paired sa pre/power combo ng nad.
Ganda! kuha na sir.... hehe
Post by: Courage on Jan 29, 2014 at 09:40 PM
I heard the T2 paired sa pre/power combo ng nad.
Ganda! kuha na sir.... hehe
Too expensive he he he... It's more than double the price of T6.. Hindi naman ganun kalayo ang tunog ng Image sa Imagine eh.. kaya hanggang ngayon napipigilan ko he he he...
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 30, 2014 at 07:11 AM
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2014 at 07:19 AM
Ligawan mo yung Display unit na Synchrony Two ni sir Rex hehe. Nung huli kong dalaw dun linigawan ko kaso basted agad ako :|
Ilang beses ko ng tinanong kung nag bebenta sila display unit.. He he he hindi daw ha ha ha...wala daw tayong magagamit pag tumatambay dun he he he.. Kaya nilulubos lubos ko ng pakinggan ang T2 pag dumadalaw ako dun...
Post by: asus on Feb 06, 2014 at 03:46 PM
Post by: rexFi on Feb 06, 2014 at 03:59 PM
Pagdating sa mga Pantera and Living Sacrifice, me and yung kasama ko agreed na naging "Sweet" ang tunog. :)
Well sa bahay naman napansin ko nagiging Sweet ang tunog ng mga Metal music ko e.g. Psycroptic, Dying Fetus with the 326BEE + Image B6.
The setup sa Watts is 375BEE + C516BEE and the Synchrony's. :)
May DAC pa atah di ko sure.
Detailed siya mas malinaw pero for me parang di naman malayo sa Image B6 or wala lang akong pera na pambili hehe. :-X
Post by: Courage on Feb 06, 2014 at 04:00 PM
NagAudition(and gotten) kanina ako ng CD Player sa Watts, ayos ang Synchrony B sa Voices VII and Lorde.
Pagdating sa mga Pantera and Living Sacrifice, me and yung kasama ko agreed na naging "Sweet" ang tunog. :)
Well sa bahay naman napansin ko nagiging Sweet ang tunog ng mga Metal music ko e.g. Psycroptic, Dying Fetus with the 326BEE + Image B6.
The setup sa Watts is 375BEE + C516BEE and the Synchrony's. :)
May DAC pa atah di ko sure.
Detailed siya mas malinaw pero for me parang di naman malayo sa Image B6 or wala lang akong pera na pambili hehe. :-X
Dapat pinakinggan mo din Imagine T2
Post by: rexFi on Feb 06, 2014 at 04:06 PM
Dapat pinakinggan mo din Imagine T2
Ahh :) bukas. Babalik namn ako don para pickupin yung CD Player.
Di ko kasi madala dito sa Opis nagcommute lang kanina. ;D
Post by: Courage on Feb 06, 2014 at 04:16 PM
Ahh :) bukas. Babalik namn ako don para pickupin yung CD Player.
Di ko kasi madala dito sa Opis nagcommute lang kanina. ;D
Tapos sabihin mo kay Rex, kabit nya REL T9 Sub with Imagine T2 kung andun pa yung REL T9 he he he
Post by: sientobente on Feb 06, 2014 at 10:23 PM
What psb b/s would you recommend for a 15w tube amp?Try to audition first sir if you will like the pairing with tubes. For me, Bookshelves with ribbon tweeters are a match with tubes, like Aurum Cantus V2M, LSA 1 Statement, MA GX50 etc.
Post by: rexFi on Feb 06, 2014 at 10:48 PM
Tapos sabihin mo kay Rex, kabit nya REL T9 Sub with Imagine T2 kung andun pa yung REL T9 he he he
hehe yeh. baka naman nababasa nya ito. :)
Post by: armymanhaha on Feb 07, 2014 at 04:21 PM
What psb b/s would you recommend for a 15w tube amp?
Hmm. Some of our fellow hobbyists here have tried tubes with PSB with great results (according to them). I personally haven't tried tubes with PSB because I firmly believe that these speakers require adequate power. If you are pursuing using low powered amps, I'd suggest the Alpha and Image bookshelf series. The Imagine and Sychrony series will require a great deal of hairy balls from your amp. ;)
Post by: Courage on Feb 07, 2014 at 04:40 PM
AWESOME!!!
Post by: armymanhaha on Feb 07, 2014 at 05:01 PM
Post by: rexFi on Feb 07, 2014 at 07:46 PM
Tapos sabihin mo kay Rex, kabit nya REL T9 Sub with Imagine T2 kung andun pa yung REL T9 he he he
:) mas type ko yung Synchrony kahapon.
I realize I like "Sweet" sounding Metal hehe.
Post by: rexFi on Feb 11, 2014 at 10:39 AM
dito ko nalang itanong.. sulit pa ba iBi-Wire ang B6 ko with the 326BEE amp?
Banana plugged na naman siya etc.
TIA.
Post by: sientobente on Feb 11, 2014 at 11:49 AM
Post by: rexFi on Feb 11, 2014 at 06:55 PM
But will still try hehe!
Post by: meat_eater on Feb 11, 2014 at 08:18 PM
I tried bi-amping using my CA and NAD amps on my T6 but I didn't find any significant changes in the sound.
To get the full effects of biamping, i suggest you use An active crossover, but that means opening the enclosure and actually disabling the pAssive crossover... Something thats not for everybody.
Cheers :)
Post by: meat_eater on Feb 11, 2014 at 08:21 PM
;D
dito ko nalang itanong.. sulit pa ba iBi-Wire ang B6 ko with the 326BEE amp?
Banana plugged na naman siya etc.
TIA.
You can try if you have the extra wire... But i doubt there will be any significant change, if meron man, minimal. You can try to instead, just replace the bridges with a good gauged wire, again, with minimal improvements, however small, is still a possible improvement.
Cheers :)
Post by: armymanhaha on Feb 11, 2014 at 09:25 PM
Post by: rexFi on Feb 20, 2014 at 11:16 PM
You can try if you have the extra wire... But i doubt there will be any significant change, if meron man, minimal. You can try to instead, just replace the bridges with a good gauged wire, again, with minimal improvements, however small, is still a possible improvement.
Cheers :)
Hi :)
I just tried replacing the bridges, and it altered the sound based on what I hear.
Mas naemphasize e.g. mga reverb sa recording song like Paglisan (CD Mix, Hand Painted Sky CD track 14) and Angel (320 KBPS, Sarah Mchlaclan).
Mas gumanda movies imho lalo na mga ambient/surrounding sound with the dialogs. (stereo lang)
Post by: meat_eater on Feb 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM
Hi :)
I just tried replacing the bridges, and it altered the sound based on what I hear.
Mas naemphasize e.g. mga reverb sa recording song like Paglisan (CD Mix, Hand Painted Sky CD track 14) and Angel (320 KBPS, Sarah Mchlaclan).
Mas gumanda movies imho lalo na mga ambient/surrounding sound with the dialogs. (stereo lang)
Good to know youre happy sa changes :)
Post by: bhenard on Feb 24, 2014 at 08:00 AM
I tried bi-amping using my CA and NAD amps on my T6 but I didn't find any significant changes in the sound.i did this too....w/ marantz and onkyo,(direct mode) no improvements but the speaker position. :D
Post by: Courage on Feb 25, 2014 at 04:18 PM
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5495/12766204704_f4fbf7084f_z.jpg)
Post by: armymanhaha on Feb 25, 2014 at 05:04 PM
Nu nga pala nangyari sa T6 mo sir?
Post by: Courage on Feb 25, 2014 at 05:08 PM
Pogi talaga. Pakita mo aluminum baffles sir jason ;)
Nu nga pala nangyari sa T6 mo sir?
Ang hirap tanggalin nung cover ha ha ha...
Yung T6, back to Mains ng HT...
Gusto kong mag full Synchrony sa HT..
One B - Mains - Tama na to kasi ang mahal sobra ng One he he he
One C - Center
Two B - Surrounds
he he he
Post by: sientobente on Feb 26, 2014 at 01:39 PM
Simply amazing speaker.. :)Ganda idol! Makalaglag panty na speakers!
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5495/12766204704_f4fbf7084f_z.jpg)
Post by: armymanhaha on Feb 26, 2014 at 04:47 PM
Post by: Courage on Feb 28, 2014 at 12:39 PM
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2881/12827663053_3e08b109ea_c.jpg)
Post by: bhenard on Feb 28, 2014 at 12:45 PM
Bought a new stand for the Synchrony. This stand is heavier, more solid and has a wider Base plate..ang gwapo ng tindig :)
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2881/12827663053_3e08b109ea_c.jpg)
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 28, 2014 at 01:50 PM
Bought a new stand for the Synchrony. This stand is heavier, more solid and has a wider Base plate..xavian stands? Daming moolah hehehehe...ung apc mo pagnagupgrade ka bilhin ko na hehehe...asan na ung lumang stands? Tsk tsk tsk....sarap makinig
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2881/12827663053_3e08b109ea_c.jpg)
Post by: Courage on Feb 28, 2014 at 01:53 PM
xavian stands? Daming moolah hehehehe...ung apc mo pagnagupgrade ka bilhin ko na hehehe...asan na ung lumang stands? Tsk tsk tsk....sarap makinig
Aurum Cantus Speaker stands for Leisure 2 SV yan bro.. Medyo pricey pero solid and pulido naman pagkakagawa.. and mabigat sya.. pansin mo walang Top plate kung saan pinapatong ang speakers? tinanggal ko kasi masyado mataas for PSB he he he.. pero malapad pa din naman ang patungan ng speakers, nilagyan ko na lang ng madaming Blu Tak
Post by: Courage on Feb 28, 2014 at 01:56 PM
ang gwapo ng tindig :)
Thanks bro...
Post by: mykel18 on Feb 28, 2014 at 02:18 PM
Post by: Courage on Feb 28, 2014 at 02:23 PM
Ganda naman ng stands! ^-^
Ha ha ha.. meron ka din nyan eh ha ha ha
Post by: mykel18 on Feb 28, 2014 at 02:23 PM
Ha ha ha.. meron ka din nyan eh ha ha ha
Kaya nga ang ganda eh. ;D ;D ;D PM mo naman saken price nung 1 stand. ;)
Post by: Courage on Feb 28, 2014 at 02:25 PM
Kaya nga ang ganda eh. ;D ;D ;D PM mo naman saken price nung 1 stand. ;)
Alin yung luma kong stands?
Post by: mykel18 on Feb 28, 2014 at 02:28 PM
Alin yung luma kong stands?
Yung 1 stand din na Aurum. Yung mas maganda.
(http://www.audiodirect.com.au/images/sub_cat_thumbs/stand.jpg)
Post by: Courage on Feb 28, 2014 at 02:31 PM
Yung 1 stand din na Aurum. Yung mas maganda.
(http://www.audiodirect.com.au/images/sub_cat_thumbs/stand.jpg)
13k brader he he he
Post by: Tsnad on Feb 28, 2014 at 02:32 PM
Bought a new stand for the Synchrony. This stand is heavier, more solid and has a wider Base plate..
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2881/12827663053_3e08b109ea_c.jpg)
Mr. Bigtime.... dami bago ahhh... >:D >:D
Post by: Courage on Feb 28, 2014 at 02:33 PM
Mr. Bigtime.... dami bago ahhh... >:D >:D
Barya lang yan compared kina mykel at louie... sila ang bigtime he he he
Post by: mykel18 on Feb 28, 2014 at 02:34 PM
13k brader he he he
Ang mahal nga. Gusto ko nun.
Post by: Courage on Feb 28, 2014 at 03:00 PM
Ang mahal nga. Gusto ko nun.
Ano bang pagkakaiba bat ang mahal nun? Nakita ko lang eh iba shape ng top plate
Post by: armymanhaha on Feb 28, 2014 at 04:34 PM
Post by: mykel18 on Feb 28, 2014 at 05:06 PM
Ano bang pagkakaiba bat ang mahal nun? Nakita ko lang eh iba shape ng top plate
Di ko rin alam. Siguro dahil mas maganda lang. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Courage on Feb 28, 2014 at 05:10 PM
Sir jason nainggit ako bigla sa stands mo i never imagined these babies would look that good! Pa pm naman san makakabili ng stands na yan. I hope youd forgive me pag gunaya ko stands mo haha.
Bro, sent you a PM he he he... Maganda stands bro.. kaya bili ka na he he he
Post by: Courage on Feb 28, 2014 at 05:18 PM
Sir jason nainggit ako bigla sa stands mo i never imagined these babies would look that good! Pa pm naman san makakabili ng stands na yan. I hope youd forgive me pag gunaya ko stands mo haha.
Eto brader, mas magandang Angle.. para bumili la na he he he
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7350/12828017794_1473464e91_c.jpg)
Post by: sientobente on Mar 01, 2014 at 08:19 AM
Eto brader, mas magandang Angle.. para bumili la na he he heSwabe idol! Parang sarap pagipunan yang synchrony ah :) yun lang wala pa akong de kalibreng amp para mapatunog ng maayos yan.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7350/12828017794_1473464e91_c.jpg)
Post by: Courage on Mar 01, 2014 at 08:44 AM
Swabe idol! Parang sarap pagipunan yang synchrony ah :) yun lang wala pa akong de kalibreng amp para mapatunog ng maayos yan.
Brader, easy to drive din ang Synchrony... And worth it syang pag ipunan... Kayang kaya pa din yan ng amp mo..
Post by: armymanhaha on Mar 01, 2014 at 12:27 PM
Post by: Courage on Mar 01, 2014 at 12:30 PM
Ganda talaga. Amoy bago pa yan! :D
Yeahhh ang sarap amoyin he he he..
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 01, 2014 at 04:39 PM
Palitan na yan!!! >:D
CONGRATS BRADER sa New Stands! Ang poge poge :) :-*
Dalhin mo yan sa 15 ha, hehehe ;D
Post by: Courage on Mar 01, 2014 at 04:54 PM
Ang panget nung speaker cables!!!
Palitan na yan!!! >:D
CONGRATS BRADER sa New Stands! Ang poge poge :) :-*
Dalhin mo yan sa 15 ha, hehehe ;D
He he he... FS pa ba yung Rega and stuff for 1.5k?
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 01, 2014 at 05:07 PM
Ha ha ha.. meron ka din nyan eh ha ha haparehas kami stands si myke.... Pogi tingnan ng arum c@ntot stands...este cantus...a ewan haha.... Kapapanood ko lang kasi ng wolf of wall street hehehe....
Cables nalang brader.... Pili ka kung silver or gold copper ang bagay kay psb mo
Post by: Courage on Mar 01, 2014 at 05:12 PM
parehas kami stands si myke.... Pogi tingnan ng arum c@ntot stands...este cantus...a ewan haha.... Kapapanood ko lang kasi ng wolf of wall street hehehe....
Cables nalang brader.... Pili ka kung silver or gold copper ang bagay kay psb mo
Pwede na kaya yung Rega Cable? yung entry level lang ng Rega
Post by: ndotcom on Mar 01, 2014 at 05:20 PM
Pwede na kaya yung Rega Cable? yung entry level lang ng Rega
Heto oh Golden Ear award winner >:D
http://www.analysis-plus.com/prod_spkrcable.html
May silver may copper variants.
Post by: Courage on Mar 01, 2014 at 05:24 PM
Heto oh Golden Ear award winner >:D
http://www.analysis-plus.com/prod_spkrcable.html
May silver may copper variants.
MURA LANG PALA EH....
MURA AABUTIN KO KAY MISIS NYAN HA HA HA
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 01, 2014 at 05:25 PM
Pwede na kaya yung Rega Cable? yung entry level lang ng Regamag home audition ka ng dalawang cable.... Hehe.. Isang silver isang gold... Pili ka kung anung mas ok sayo ...
Post by: Courage on Mar 01, 2014 at 05:30 PM
mag home audition ka ng dalawang cable.... Hehe.. Isang silver isang gold... Pili ka kung anung mas ok sayo ...
Anak ng pating wala akong malagintong tenga na tulad mo at ni norman... Kahit sigiro alambre gamitin di ko ma nonotice pagkakaiba ha ha ha
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 01, 2014 at 05:32 PM
Heto oh Golden Ear award winner >:Dang mahal hahaha....
http://www.analysis-plus.com/prod_spkrcable.html
May silver may copper variants.
Bibigyan si jason ng kumander nya ng award hahaha
Post by: Courage on Mar 01, 2014 at 05:36 PM
ang mahal hahaha....
Bibigyan si jason ng kumander nya ng award hahaha
Pagbinili ko yan.. Pupunta din si misis sa MCS, kaso dun sa tindahan ng Baril pupunta yun... Bibili ng baril para barilin ako ha ha ha
Post by: Courage on Mar 01, 2014 at 05:38 PM
Ang panget nung speaker cables!!!
Palitan na yan!!! >:D
CONGRATS BRADER sa New Stands! Ang poge poge :) :-*
Dalhin mo yan sa 15 ha, hehehe ;D
AMPFFFF IKAW NAGBENTA SA AKIN NG SPEAKER CABLES NA TO EH!!!!! grrrrrr...
Post by: ndotcom on Mar 01, 2014 at 05:38 PM
Anak ng pating wala akong malagintong tenga na tulad mo at ni norman... Kahit sigiro alambre gamitin di ko ma nonotice pagkakaiba ha ha ha
Bili ka sa Deeco Marcos Highway nung manipis na transparent speaker cable nila, ang isa cable nun copper tapos tin coated yung isa 35pesos or 25pesos ata yun per meter. May option ka na nun kung saan mo lagay ang tin/silver coated at copper sa + or - ng speakers mo.
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 01, 2014 at 05:40 PM
Pagbinili ko yan.. Pupunta din si misis sa MCS, kaso dun sa tindahan ng Baril pupunta yun... Bibili ng baril para barilin ako ha ha haitanung mo nalang kay rex kung silver or gold copper ang bagay dyan sa psb mo
Post by: Courage on Mar 01, 2014 at 05:51 PM
Bili ka sa Deeco Marcos Highway nung manipis na transparent speaker cable nila, ang isa cable nun copper tapos tin coated yung isa 35pesos or 25pesos ata yun per meter. May option ka na nun kung saan mo lagay ang tin/silver coated at copper sa + or - ng speakers mo.
itanung mo nalang kay rex kung silver or gold copper ang bagay dyan sa psb mo
Punta kayong dalawa dito sa bahay at magdala kayo mamahalin cable. Tingnan ko kung may manotice akong difference bago ako bumili he he he.. PURO GASTOS SUGGESTION NYO ha ha ha
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 01, 2014 at 09:22 PM
He he he... FS pa ba yung Rega and stuff for 1.5k?
AMPFFFF IKAW NAGBENTA SA AKIN NG SPEAKER CABLES NA TO EH!!!!! grrrrrr...
SAbi sayo brader pang HT lang yang cables na yan...
Hindi bagay yan sa pure audio ;)
Yung REGA GC andito lang sa bahay, hinihintay ka, hehehe...
Post by: armymanhaha on Mar 01, 2014 at 09:50 PM
Post by: Courage on Mar 02, 2014 at 05:49 PM
Van Del Hul Cs122 gamit ko sa One B ko. You might wanna try it too :) Although honestly non-cable believer ako.
I'm also a non cable believer, and i'm afraid if i spend money on new cables baka pag sisihan ko pag wala ako ma notice na difference...
To be honest when i replaced my old cable which was a 14 gauge generic cable na nabibili lang dyan sa tabi tabi, and the cable was like12 years old already.. nag kukulay green na nga yung copper sa loob, with my cable right now which came from Louie, a 10 gauge cable na mas maganda ang quality kesa sa old cable ko.. wala naman akong na notice na improvement nor difference on SQ he he he
Post by: armymanhaha on Mar 03, 2014 at 09:33 PM
Anyway i dont wanna burst bubbles here pero some people swear on cables. Its just that i belong to the 'music lovers' camp, not audiophiles. Barton openly despises audiophile cables on one podcast years ago (im not sure where i can find it again). I dont see any reason to overthink cables . Alan shaw from harbeth also do not believe in cables. The musical fidelity guy too, and one of the guys who started mcintosh aint a believer. Too bad they cater to audiophiles hence, the need to manufacture cables :d
The only reason i bought the cs122 is it is heavily silver coated. I want the cable to be worry-free from oxidation for years plus, it looks good with the synchrony. That might be one of the buying factors youd wanna consider sir ;)
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 03, 2014 at 11:15 PM
initial questions:
1. for those using Image B6+C5 combo, what crossover settings did you use? all 80?
2. how many hours kaya ang break-in nito?
3. did you bi-wire?
Post by: Courage on Mar 04, 2014 at 10:46 AM
ahem..bookmarking and back-reading this thread :)
initial questions:
1. for those using Image B6+C5 combo, what crossover settings did you use? all 80?
2. how many hours kaya ang break-in nito?
3. did you bi-wire?
1. My B6 - 80hz / C5 -40hz-60hz
2. Paul Barton of PSB dont believe in speaker break in.. He said that the speaker sound good right out of the box he he he.. Pero siguro sa initial listening, just play @ moderate volume for 2-4 hours just to loosen up the cone a little bit
3. I dont bi wire, they say no difference.. and i'm bad in hearing any differences from cables or power cables unlike differences in Speakers SQ..
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 04, 2014 at 07:19 PM
another question, do you guys put the grill on or not? i find the PSBs nicer to look at without the grill. May benefit ba if kept on?
Post by: Courage on Mar 04, 2014 at 09:17 PM
^thanks! will try out 60hz for center.
another question, do you guys put the grill on or not? i find the PSBs nicer to look at without the grill. May benefit ba if kept on?
Kung walang malikot na bata or anybody that would play with it, ok lang na walang grill... The tweeter is so sensitive, even with the softest brush ma diding yan... so be careful with the tweeter....
Post by: AppleMan on Mar 04, 2014 at 09:23 PM
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 06, 2014 at 12:13 AM
Kung walang malikot na bata or anybody that would play with it, ok lang na walang grill... The tweeter is so sensitive, even with the softest brush ma diding yan... so be careful with the tweeter....
Duly noted @Courage and @china-man.
On another note, confirming that Psb Image + Denon 1713 sounds good together.
Also, the B6 sounds great for concerts (David Foster & Friends, Adele, Diana Krall, Eagles) and even for stereo listening. Labasan mga Lisa Ono, Carole King and Sinatra CDs ko =)
Post by: Icermad on Mar 06, 2014 at 12:18 AM
Post by: sientobente on Mar 06, 2014 at 01:00 AM
I'm also a non cable believer, and i'm afraid if i spend money on new cables baka pag sisihan ko pag wala ako ma notice na difference...Try mo idol instead of speaker wire, interconnects. Para sa akin may difference sa ICs. The worst i have tried are cambridge audio ICs. Magaspang tunog vs el cheapo ICs. Certain VDH ICs naman have more constraint on the lower end. Kaya nga minsan the more expensive it is, it doesn't mean it's better.
To be honest when i replaced my old cable which was a 14 gauge generic cable na nabibili lang dyan sa tabi tabi, and the cable was like12 years old already.. nag kukulay green na nga yung copper sa loob, with my cable right now which came from Louie, a 10 gauge cable na mas maganda ang quality kesa sa old cable ko.. wala naman akong na notice na improvement nor difference on SQ he he he
Post by: sientobente on Mar 06, 2014 at 01:02 AM
Ok din ba for movies yung PSB Image B5? :) Naisip ko kasi for 2.1 muna pwede ko recommend sa friend ko..heheIt is a good starting point sir, once he upgrades to a bigger bookshelf or floorstander he can move those B5s for his surround.
Post by: Courage on Mar 06, 2014 at 07:10 AM
Try mo idol instead of speaker wire, interconnects. Para sa akin may difference sa ICs. The worst i have tried are cambridge audio ICs. Magaspang tunog vs el cheapo ICs. Certain VDH ICs naman have more constraint on the lower end. Kaya nga minsan the more expensive it is, it doesn't mean it's better.
Brader may deprnsya ata talaga tenga ko... I tried comparing the ic i bought sa mcs vs the red and white ic's na free sa mga cd or dvd player.. Wala ako madinig na difference ha ha ha ha syetttt....
Siguro kelangan nakakalong si maui para may ma notice ako..
Post by: mykel18 on Mar 06, 2014 at 08:01 AM
Brader may deprnsya ata talaga tenga ko... I tried comparing the ic i bought sa mcs vs the red and white ic's na free sa mga cd or dvd player.. Wala ako madinig na difference ha ha ha ha syetttt....
Siguro kelangan nakakalong si maui para may ma notice ako..
Aba e tawagan na si Maui ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Icermad on Mar 06, 2014 at 08:15 AM
It is a good starting point sir, once he upgrades to a bigger bookshelf or floorstander he can move those B5s for his surround.
Yeah.. tha's the plan :) I'm gonna have to ask him what he prefers.. But this is better than any budget FS right? Let's say the Warfes or PSB Aplha?
Post by: Courage on Mar 06, 2014 at 09:26 AM
Yeah.. tha's the plan :) I'm gonna have to ask him what he prefers.. But this is better than any budget FS right? Let's say the Warfes or PSB Aplha?
Add a little and get the B6 na.. Konti na lang difference eh... Then later on your friend can get the B5 or Alpha B1 for surrounds, unless ang plano ng Friend mo eh mag FS..
Post by: Icermad on Mar 06, 2014 at 09:41 AM
Add a little and get the B6 na.. Konti na lang difference eh... Then later on your friend can get the B5 or Alpha B1 for surrounds, unless ang plano ng Friend mo eh mag FS..
Ok sir... I will suggest the B6.. actually medyo limited kasi talaga budget nya..I will inquire narin for the Cash Price of both B5 and B6.. :)
Post by: Courage on Mar 06, 2014 at 10:06 AM
Ok sir... I will suggest the B6.. actually medyo limited kasi talaga budget nya..I will inquire narin for the Cash Price of both B5 and B6.. :)
I think there's a 3k Difference....
Post by: Icermad on Mar 06, 2014 at 10:09 AM
I think there's a 3k Difference....
Pwede ko siguro sya maconvince.. BTW, will the PSB Image be match with the Yamaha 765? Or mas ok yung Onkyo 607? Pinagkasya ko lang kasi yung 40k nya na budget for 2.1 set-up including the receiver and sub :)
Post by: Courage on Mar 06, 2014 at 01:45 PM
Pwede ko siguro sya maconvince.. BTW, will the PSB Image be match with the Yamaha 765? Or mas ok yung Onkyo 607? Pinagkasya ko lang kasi yung 40k nya na budget for 2.1 set-up including the receiver and sub :)
It will.. i'm using a Yamaha receiver for my PSB... I never heard PSB sound bad to any receiver or amp.... THats why i love it..
Post by: Icermad on Mar 06, 2014 at 02:02 PM
It will.. i'm using a Yamaha receiver for my PSB... I never heard PSB sound bad to any receiver or amp.... THats why i love it..
That's good to hear sir.. Pinagpipilian nalang namin is PSB Image B6 or Q Acoustics :) thanks for all your inputs sir!
Post by: Courage on Mar 06, 2014 at 08:41 PM
That's good to hear sir.. Pinagpipilian nalang namin is PSB Image B6 or Q Acoustics :) thanks for all your inputs sir!
Good luck on your speaker hunt... Your options are both good. You wouldn't go wrong if you choose any of the two... It's now all up to you on which sounds best for you....
Post by: Icermad on Mar 07, 2014 at 04:23 PM
Good luck on your speaker hunt... Your options are both good. You wouldn't go wrong if you choose any of the two... It's now all up to you on which sounds best for you....
Thank you sir... we will audition both before we purchase so that walang regrets in the future :)
Post by: gecs105 on Mar 12, 2014 at 03:51 PM
Post by: meat_eater on Mar 12, 2014 at 04:51 PM
ahem..bookmarking and back-reading this thread :)
initial questions:
1. for those using Image B6+C5 combo, what crossover settings did you use? all 80?
2. how many hours kaya ang break-in nito?
3. did you bi-wire?
For me naman, b6 + c5 + b4
80, 80, 100.
Sub is at 80
Post by: armymanhaha on Mar 13, 2014 at 12:43 AM
Post by: olrac on Mar 13, 2014 at 12:12 PM
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 13, 2014 at 10:08 PM
Post by: luis on Mar 14, 2014 at 03:43 PM
Planning to change my HT speaker would this pair nicely with onkyo 809? Thankspwede sir.
onkyo neutral to warmish
psb warmish
but best is to audition, just bring your onkyo amp.
i use onkyo and image c5 for center and b5 for surround, front is chopsuey kasi time share with my two channel set-up.
:D :D :D
Post by: mickerru on Mar 15, 2014 at 08:10 PM
newbie here. Planning to buy my 1st setup. B6 talaga habol ko. Wondering what AV reciever ang magandang match. Looking at yamaha rx-v375. Yan lang kaya bidget e.
To follow ung center at rear.
Ok ba un?
anu murang pde na sub?
thanks in advance
Post by: sientobente on Mar 16, 2014 at 05:31 AM
Mga idol,That would work. The image series is very easy to power. I even used to try an entry level pioneer 521 into my T6 and it was driven very well. For subs, what will be your budget?
newbie here. Planning to buy my 1st setup. B6 talaga habol ko. Wondering what AV reciever ang magandang match. Looking at yamaha rx-v375. Yan lang kaya bidget e.
To follow ung center at rear.
Ok ba un?
anu murang pde na sub?
thanks in advance
Post by: mickerru on Mar 16, 2014 at 06:24 AM
Post by: olrac on Mar 17, 2014 at 03:08 PM
@olrac, which model of PSB? I think there are some here who pair PSBs with Onkyo.
Considering the T2 model and a complimenting psb center speaker.
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM
@olrac, you may want to check this other thread out (on receiver-speaker matching) --
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173418.0.html
Post by: olrac on Mar 18, 2014 at 09:52 AM
Post by: luis on Mar 18, 2014 at 01:24 PM
Are there any PSB owners who pair their speakers with a Marantz or Harman Kardon receiver?HK 3390 = warm
@olrac, you may want to check this other thread out (on receiver-speaker matching) --
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173418.0.html
PSM Image B5 = warm but with detailed highs
Combi = warm with detailed highs
base actual set-up.
:) :) :)
Post by: meat_eater on Mar 21, 2014 at 09:31 PM
Sub setting is at 120 hz. +3db hot.
Both subs are in front
I like the overall sound :)
Post by: Pandidoy on Mar 30, 2014 at 12:44 PM
(http://i59.tinypic.com/xd5j75.jpg)
Post by: retro12195 on Mar 30, 2014 at 04:49 PM
Post by: armymanhaha on Mar 30, 2014 at 10:31 PM
Post by: Courage on Mar 31, 2014 at 04:17 PM
Post by: mykel18 on Mar 31, 2014 at 04:22 PM
Post by: Courage on Mar 31, 2014 at 04:55 PM
Ganda naman! Galing magpicture. ;D
Sarap din i pictorial ng gears mo brader he he he
Post by: mykel18 on Mar 31, 2014 at 05:45 PM
Sarap din i pictorial ng gears mo brader he he he
Actually gusto ko nga kaso di ako marunong. ;D
Post by: Courage on Mar 31, 2014 at 08:15 PM
Actually gusto ko nga kaso di ako marunong. ;D
Next na bisita ko dyan.. Dala ako camera gears..
Post by: mykel18 on Mar 31, 2014 at 08:45 PM
Next na bisita ko dyan.. Dala ako camera gears..
Sige ayos yan.
Post by: tonedeaf on Apr 05, 2014 at 02:25 PM
Post by: Courage on Apr 05, 2014 at 02:33 PM
Sa mga PSB Image series owners, what brand of stereo amp did you pair it with (preferably the integrated type)? Talaga bang NAD ang bagay? :)
Not really, nasa Safe side kasi ang NAD + PSB combo, meaning maganda yung combo nung dalawa..
My Image actually sounded nice with My Yamaha Receiver even for 2 channel music listening..
Try pairing it with Rotel or Marantz and see if you will like the combination..
Post by: tonedeaf on Apr 05, 2014 at 02:41 PM
Post by: Courage on Apr 05, 2014 at 02:44 PM
Those are the brands I keep coming across as well, na merong models within my budget. Sana I can home audition para mas okay.
Ask Marc of AVSHOP kung pwede ka mag home audition with Rotel and Marantz.. He carries both.. I'm sure papayag yun pag nagkakilala kayo.. Isa sya sa mga mababait na sellers dito sa pinoy dvd...
Post by: sientobente on Apr 05, 2014 at 03:45 PM
Post by: Courage on Apr 05, 2014 at 04:05 PM
I believe Rex has Rotel. When I tried the older ra06se with the image the pairing wasn't impressive. The sound got thinner. Marantz and psb will be a better match.
Ayan nagsalita na si Master Pogi..
Post by: armymanhaha on Apr 05, 2014 at 07:22 PM
Post by: tonedeaf on Apr 05, 2014 at 10:59 PM
To be paired with the B6, and with a potential acquisition of a Rega RP3 in a year or two.
Post by: luis on Apr 06, 2014 at 01:28 PM
Right now my shortlist is looking like - NAD 326BEE, Marantz PM5004 and Rega Brio R (arranged from lowest to highest price :) )
To be paired with the B6, and with a potential acquisition of a Rega RP3 in a year or two.
the three amp options are all good. good, better and best matching na lang with B6.
congratz sir!
:) :) :)
Post by: meat_eater on Apr 10, 2014 at 12:45 PM
Sa mga PSB Image series owners, what brand of stereo amp did you pair it with (preferably the integrated type)? Talaga bang NAD ang bagay? :)
Sa mga PSB Image series owners, what brand of stereo amp did you pair it with (preferably the integrated type)? Talaga bang NAD ang bagay? :)
I use a 38 watt el34 push pull amp for my b6... Tapped to the 4 ohm tap, drives the speakers with gusto.
For ht, I use a Denon 2113 avr.
Post by: sientobente on May 25, 2014 at 12:10 PM
Post by: bhenard on May 27, 2014 at 07:38 PM
Sa mga PSB Image series owners, what brand of stereo amp did you pair it with (preferably the integrated type)? Talaga bang NAD ang bagay? :)
T6 paired to Marantz PM7003.....what i say is Boom panes!!! :)
Post by: sientobente on May 28, 2014 at 05:14 AM
T6 paired to Marantz PM7003.....what i say is Boom panes!!! :)Nice set sir! Congrats!
By the way, saw the PSB Alpha PS1 at watts hifi. I'll audition them next time.
Post by: mickerru on Jun 05, 2014 at 05:29 AM
Buying a image b6 next week. Thinking of matching it with denon x500. Match ba cya? If not. Baka yamaha rx 375 nalang.
Please advice mga guru
thanks
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 05, 2014 at 07:49 AM
Post by: sientobente on Jun 05, 2014 at 10:42 AM
Post by: sientobente on Jun 05, 2014 at 10:43 AM
Help naman mga bro. Noob here.That combination will work sir :)
Buying a image b6 next week. Thinking of matching it with denon x500. Match ba cya? If not. Baka yamaha rx 375 nalang.
Please advice mga guru
thanks
Post by: Lancito on Jun 05, 2014 at 11:32 AM
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 05, 2014 at 12:34 PM
Post by: Lancito on Jun 21, 2014 at 09:55 AM
Post by: melbourne on Jun 21, 2014 at 10:03 AM
Got my Imagine T and Imagine C from Watt Hifi lastnight. Thanks to Rex for a sweet deal. However, will it be soon before the Imagine T is faced out? It has been out in the marker for 5 years. Hmmmmm...
Congrats on your purchase brader. Imagine series of PSB are good sounding speakers and earned a lot of positive reviews. I don't think the Imagine series will be phased out in the market.
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 21, 2014 at 10:08 AM
Post by: sientobente on Jun 21, 2014 at 10:20 AM
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 21, 2014 at 08:39 PM
http://www.cnet.com/news/a-sweet-sounding-budget-priced-audiophile-stereo-system/
Post by: Courage on Jun 21, 2014 at 08:48 PM
Got my Imagine T and Imagine C from Watt Hifi lastnight. Thanks to Rex for a sweet deal. However, will it be soon before the Imagine T is faced out? It has been out in the marker for 5 years. Hmmmmm...
Congrats sir, thats one nice sounding speakers..
Post by: Lancito on Jun 21, 2014 at 11:47 PM
Post by: Courage on Jun 22, 2014 at 10:08 AM
I noticed the port of the Imagine C to be sticky. If you back read, you will see other reports of the same problem. Parang natutunaw na malagkit. But my T's do not have this problem. Reported to Rex and promised he will replace this Tuesday. Buti nalang may support from Watts Hifi.
Ive seen psb ports to be sticky, yung rubber dun sa ports even with synchrony.... Kahit yung display sa watts hi fi.. Pag high humidity yan daw ang effect with that kind of rubber...
Post by: luis on Jun 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM
Ive seen psb ports to be sticky, yung rubber dun sa ports even with synchrony.... Kahit yung display sa watts hi fi.. Pag high humidity yan daw ang effect with that kind of rubber...
may effect ba sa SQ? ???
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 22, 2014 at 03:26 PM
Post by: Courage on Jun 22, 2014 at 06:27 PM
may effect ba sa SQ? ???
No effect on SQ.. I dont see any reason why it should affect the SQ of the speakers
Post by: Lancito on Jun 22, 2014 at 09:54 PM
No effect on SQ.. I dont see any reason why it should affect the SQ of the speakers
Wala naman impact sa sound pero syempre i want my moneys worth. Meron naman units like my Imagine Ts na hindi malagkit so why not get another unit. The box also looked re-sealed. Baka binalik nato ng ibang buyers.
Post by: Courage on Jun 23, 2014 at 09:53 AM
Wala naman impact sa sound pero syempre i want my moneys worth. Meron naman units like my Imagine Ts na hindi malagkit so why not get another unit. The box also looked re-sealed. Baka binalik nato ng ibang buyers.
I agree with you, and if i'm in your case i would ask for replacement as well, but what i'm saying is may possibility na mangyari ang ganyan sa speakers pag nagtagal due to humidity. If your room is humid then later on it will happen, but again no worries as it doesnt affect SQ..
I have PSB synchrony and Image Speakers with same rubber material so far ok pa naman the Image is been with me for 2 years. I saw a synchrony and same image speakers with sticky rubber
Post by: Lancito on Jun 23, 2014 at 10:25 AM
I agree with you, and if i'm in your case i would ask for replacement as well, but what i'm saying is may possibility na mangyari ang ganyan sa speakers pag nagtagal due to humidity. If your room is humid then later on it will happen, but again no worries as it doesnt affect SQ..
I have PSB synchrony and Image Speakers with same rubber material so far ok pa naman the Image is been with me for 2 years. I saw a synchrony and same image speakers with sticky rubber
I don't know if it is just me but I think this problem is random or newer stocks do not have this problem. Mukhang re-sealed yung center ko eh. Baka may iba nag balik. Sana the new center Rex will give to me tomorrow doesn't have this annoying sticky port.
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 23, 2014 at 10:51 AM
I agree with you, and if i'm in your case i would ask for replacement as well, but what i'm saying is may possibility na mangyari ang ganyan sa speakers pag nagtagal due to humidity. If your room is humid then later on it will happen, but again no worries as it doesnt affect SQ..mana sa may ari .... sticky ang rubber d1ckie... hahaha...
I have PSB synchrony and Image Speakers with same rubber material so far ok pa naman the Image is been with me for 2 years. I saw a synchrony and same image speakers with sticky rubber
Post by: Courage on Jun 23, 2014 at 10:52 AM
I don't know if it is just me but I think this problem is random or newer stocks do not have this problem. Mukhang re-sealed yung center ko eh. Baka may iba nag balik. Sana the new center Rex will give to me tomorrow doesn't have this annoying sticky port.
Newer stocks and sealed units will not have that issue simply because it's not exposed to high humidity and heat.
Post by: gaol on Jun 23, 2014 at 12:59 PM
The rubber on my two-year old Imagine speakers is not sticky (knock on wood), maybe because the room they are placed in is not humid at all.
@Lancito, kung mahilig kang magtanggal-kabit ng speaker grills, alalayan mo yun cloth na nakakabalot sa metal grills. Dahil mabigat yun grills and manipis yung cloth, may tendency na yung gilid ng cloth matanggal sa pagkadikit sa grill kung madalas nagagalaw young grill.
Post by: Courage on Jun 23, 2014 at 01:26 PM
The demo units of the Imagine speakers I auditioned also had sticky rubber ports, may mga nakadikit pa na mga fibers (I'm assuming from cloth rags).
The rubber on my two-year old Imagine speakers is not sticky (knock on wood), maybe because the room they are placed in is not humid at all.
@Lancito, kung mahilig kang magtanggal-kabit ng speaker grills, alalayan mo yun cloth na nakakabalot sa metal grills. Dahil mabigat yun grills and manipis yung cloth, may tendency na yung gilid ng cloth matanggal sa pagkadikit sa grill kung madalas nagagalaw young grill.
A humid and hot room will make those rubber sticky.. lalo na yung room na malamig na malamig pag may AC tapos pag patay mo ng AC magiging Humid...
Post by: Lancito on Jun 23, 2014 at 04:50 PM
The demo units of the Imagine speakers I auditioned also had sticky rubber ports, may mga nakadikit pa na mga fibers (I'm assuming from cloth rags).
The rubber on my two-year old Imagine speakers is not sticky (knock on wood), maybe because the room they are placed in is not humid at all.
@Lancito, kung mahilig kang magtanggal-kabit ng speaker grills, alalayan mo yun cloth na nakakabalot sa metal grills. Dahil mabigat yun grills and manipis yung cloth, may tendency na yung gilid ng cloth matanggal sa pagkadikit sa grill kung madalas nagagalaw young grill.
The ports on my Imagine T are not sticky at all kaso yung center malagkit talaga. I requested for a replacement right away. Bukas ko pa makukuha. Regarding the grills, hindi naman ako mahilig magtanggal ng grills kaya hopefully hindi matanggal yun cloth. Salamat sa tips.
Post by: Lancito on Jun 23, 2014 at 04:51 PM
A humid and hot room will make those rubber sticky.. lalo na yung room na malamig na malamig pag may AC tapos pag patay mo ng AC magiging Humid...
Sosyal naman ng speakers na ito gusto naka aircon pa siya.
Post by: Courage on Jun 24, 2014 at 12:38 AM
Sosyal naman ng speakers na ito gusto naka aircon pa siya.
Well yung synchrony ko nasa sala, sobrang init dun lalo na pag tanghali pero di naman humid.. So far hindi pa naman sticky yung ports sa likod..
Post by: Lancito on Jun 24, 2014 at 03:31 PM
Post by: luis on Jun 28, 2014 at 10:49 AM
anong amp ang bagay or anong gamit mo na amp para sa synchrony one BS or FS mo? :D
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jun 28, 2014 at 12:04 PM
good morning sirs.
anong amp ang bagay or anong gamit mo na amp para sa synchrony one BS or FS mo? :D
Try nyo po ang NAD and Anthem Amplifiers :)
Post by: sientobente on Jun 28, 2014 at 01:51 PM
good morning sirs.
anong amp ang bagay or anong gamit mo na amp para sa synchrony one BS or FS mo? :D
gamit po nila idol courage and sir armymanhaha is a nad 150wpc. the synchrony needs good enough current. with lesser amps, it will sound anemic.
Post by: Courage on Jun 28, 2014 at 01:56 PM
good morning sirs.
anong amp ang bagay or anong gamit mo na amp para sa synchrony one BS or FS mo? :D
Im using nad C275bee amp and 165bee pre-amp
Post by: Ohmguru on Jul 05, 2014 at 12:09 PM
So I was browsing around and them came across a review for the the Imagine X bookshelf
http://www.cnet.com/news/a-sweet-sounding-budget-priced-audiophile-stereo-system/
Kelan kaya dating nito sa Pinas?
Post by: luis on Jul 07, 2014 at 03:49 PM
Kelan kaya dating nito sa Pinas?
malapit na, yan ang narinig ko sa AD. >:D
Post by: Ohmguru on Jul 11, 2014 at 12:36 AM
I noticed the port of the Imagine C to be sticky. If you back read, you will see other reports of the same problem. Parang natutunaw na malagkit. But my T's do not have this problem. Reported to Rex and promised he will replace this Tuesday. Buti nalang may support from Watts Hifi.
I got the same problem also.bagong bili ko din kay Rex yung center. Its rubber is so sticky parang na expose masyado sa init. sa bookshelf wala naman prob.
I hope they've informed the principal on this issue already since its not an isolated case anymore.
(Not unless, there's something wrong with storage handling of our local distro) :)
Post by: armymanhaha on Jul 11, 2014 at 12:50 AM
I got the same problem also.bagong bili ko din kay Rex yung center. Its rubber is so sticky parang na expose masyado sa init. sa bookshelf wala naman prob.
I hope they've informed the principal on this issue already since its not an isolated case anymore.
(Not unless, there's something wrong with storage handling of our local distro) :)
I suspect this to be a distro issue. Got my PSB sa ibang retailer and had the same issue. I also owned a Paradigm Studio series before and had an issue with a driver being misaligned although that was a sealed unit so possible manufacturing issue din. PSB and Paradigm is distributed by the same company.
Post by: Lancito on Jul 11, 2014 at 06:07 AM
I got the same problem also.bagong bili ko din kay Rex yung center. Its rubber is so sticky parang na expose masyado sa init. sa bookshelf wala naman prob.
I hope they've informed the principal on this issue already since its not an isolated case anymore.
(Not unless, there's something wrong with storage handling of our local distro) :)
I am pretty sure they gave you the same center speaker they gave me. The distributor wants to dispose of that center to unsuspecting customers. Demand for a replacement right away. If you prolong it, they might not honor an exchange.
Post by: jeffry10 on Jul 11, 2014 at 07:12 AM
the ports weren't sticky but man, one of the speakers has a hairline scratch. UGH.
Post by: Lancito on Jul 11, 2014 at 05:18 PM
hey Lance, i took your advice and had my dealer friend make sure the ports weren't sticky..
the ports weren't sticky but man, one of the speakers has a hairline scratch. UGH.
Bro basta hindi ka happy, demand for a replacement. Others are really OC like me. I want my new stuff perfect.
Post by: Courage on Jul 12, 2014 at 12:19 AM
Bro basta hindi ka happy, demand for a replacement. Others are really OC like me. I want my new stuff perfect.
+1
When i bought my NAD C165bee pre-amp i noticed nung kinabit ko na sa bahay na may hairline scratch though the unit was really sealed when i bought it and no signs of being resealed, i demanded a replacement agad the next day and it was replaced right away.. Di ko napansin nung nag test sa store due to excitement he he he
Post by: Ohmguru on Jul 13, 2014 at 09:59 PM
I am pretty sure they gave you the same center speaker they gave me. The distributor wants to dispose of that center to unsuspecting customers. Demand for a replacement right away. If you prolong it, they might not honor an exchange.
Ive read one of distros terms stating that item should be returned within 48hrs for them to honor the exchange(Normally, other vendors give atleast one week for a customer return it) In my case, i'd opened the boxes two days after i bought it and another two days two days to return it. Buti nlng madaling kausap sila Rex, walang issue sa kanila to.
Post by: gaol on Jul 14, 2014 at 11:18 AM
And I discovered that the rubber ports have turned very sticky on the following:
Imagine C center
Imagine B bookshelf used as rear surrounds, both left and right
:'( :'( :'(
All three ports on each of the T2 speakers are alright, for now. :)
When I got the speakers in 2012, I made it a point to check the rubber ports, because I remember noticing the sticky rubber on the demo units I got to audition.
The room is not humid and is generally always cool even with the aircon off so I don't have an idea what caused the rubber to go sticky....
It looks like, at least for this line, these Canadian speakers have to "tropicalized." :P
Post by: Courage on Jul 17, 2014 at 10:19 PM
Hmm, I decided to inspect my now 2-year old Imagine speakers again more closely.
And I discovered that the rubber ports have turned very sticky on the following:
Imagine C center
Imagine B bookshelf used as rear surrounds, both left and right
:'( :'( :'(
All three ports on each of the T2 speakers are alright, for now. :)
When I got the speakers in 2012, I made it a point to check the rubber ports, because I remember noticing the sticky rubber on the demo units I got to audition.
The room is not humid and is generally always cool even with the aircon off so I don't have an idea what caused the rubber to go sticky....
It looks like, at least for this line, these Canadian speakers have to "tropicalized." :P
Sir arns, di ka pa ba nagsasawa sa Nad mo? He he he
Post by: splucktearse on Aug 03, 2014 at 03:20 PM
Post by: luis on Oct 20, 2014 at 03:20 PM
http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/imagine/Imagine-T3-Tower
http://hometheaterreview.com/psb-debuts-new-imagine-t3-tower-speaker/
happy reading.
:)
Post by: sientobente on Oct 25, 2014 at 01:01 AM
Yung Imagine X series ba will replace the Image series? halos parehas kasi ng specs ang Imagine X2T sa Image T6 at Imagine X1T sa Image T5.The Image series seems to still be active even when the Imagine X has been launched for quite some time already. I just don't get the product positioning that PSB is doing right now, coz with this new Imagine T3, it overlaps with the Synchrony series. I guess Paul Barton would just want us to have more choices on his speaker lineup.
Post by: luis on Oct 26, 2014 at 11:36 AM
The Image series seems to still be active even when the Imagine X has been launched for quite some time already. I just don't get the product positioning that PSB is doing right now, coz with this new Imagine T3, it overlaps with the Synchrony series. I guess Paul Barton would just want us to have more choices on his speaker lineup.
my thoughts: on imagine x, you get an imagine sound for the price of image, not a bad selling proposition; on imagine T3, i've got a funny feeling that synchrony series will be discontinued.
:)
Post by: armymanhaha on Oct 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM
Post by: Stagea on Oct 29, 2014 at 10:18 AM
The Image series seems to still be active even when the Imagine X has been launched for quite some time already. I just don't get the product positioning that PSB is doing right now, coz with this new Imagine T3, it overlaps with the Synchrony series. I guess Paul Barton would just want us to have more choices on his speaker lineup.
I have a feeling that a new Image series will come up repositioned at a lower price point. The current Image series is going low on stocks in many countries.
If that holds true, maybe the Alpha name would be used on another product or would be pushed to a new price bracket.
Post by: kranoz on Nov 09, 2014 at 09:11 AM
Post by: bhenard on Nov 09, 2014 at 10:29 PM
Post by: zram18 on Feb 24, 2015 at 07:44 PM
i just met sir rex of watt hi fi kanina sa makati cinema square looking for a separate music setup, muntik ko pa di makita yung shop nasa tabi lang pala ng dunkin donuts,layo pa naman quezon city to makati. meron din pala sila dalawa pang shop sa ground floor Watts Hi Fi din.
i personaly tested yung bagong dating na PSB imagine XB, yun daw pumalit sa PSB image B6. this was connected to NAD 516 cdp and NAD 326 bee integrated amp. my observation: maganda yung highs and mids, malambing at nakakarelax tumunog, parang ayaw ko na nga umuwi. baka mapuyat ako araw araw pag eto lagi ang kasama ko kasi ang sarap ng tunog. same size cya ng PSB image B5 pero mas maganda sound kasi nasa imagine series cya, angat ng isang level. tested also PSB imagine b speakers, mas maganda ang mids pero at the price of 40k plus, bang for the buck ang imagine xb.
then,pinakabitan ko ng subwoofer yung PSB sub series 200, lalong gumanda ang lows. tight and accurate and bass, perfect combo for music setup. plan ko pa sana itry yung Rel T5 pero since gumagabi na, di ko na natry.
ok kausap si sir rex, very accomodating at mabait na tao. para nga kami nasa seminar at cya yung professor, magaling magdiscuss sa mga customers sa shop at kabisado mga audio gears nya. audition and let your ears decide. dito pala puwede gawin yun kasi puwede ka magpalit palit ng gears to try different combinations. nakita ko rin yung synchrony speakers nya worth 100k plus and also tested Martin Logan electrostatic speakers worth 300k pala yun (though i cant afford to buy that one,hehe nacurious lang kung ano ang sound)
in the end, nakabili din naman ako, isang pirasong cd.. hehe. though i'll be back..soon.
Post by: Conan on Feb 24, 2015 at 08:57 PM
just want to update this thread.
i just met sir rex of watt hi fi kanina sa makati cinema square looking for a separate music setup, muntik ko pa di makita yung shop nasa tabi lang pala ng dunkin donuts,layo pa naman quezon city to makati. meron din pala sila dalawa pang shop sa ground floor Watts Hi Fi din.
i personaly tested yung bagong dating na PSB imagine XB, yun daw pumalit sa PSB image B6. this was connected to NAD 516 cdp and NAD 326 bee integrated amp. my observation: maganda yung highs and mids, malambing at nakakarelax tumunog, parang ayaw ko na nga umuwi. baka mapuyat ako araw araw pag eto lagi ang kasama ko kasi ang sarap ng tunog. same size cya ng PSB image B5 pero mas maganda sound kasi nasa imagine series cya, angat ng isang level. tested also PSB imagine b speakers, mas maganda ang mids pero at the price of 40k plus, bang for the buck ang imagine xb.
then,pinakabitan ko ng subwoofer yung PSB sub series 200, lalong gumanda ang lows. tight and accurate and bass, perfect combo for music setup. plan ko pa sana itry yung Rel T5 pero since gumagabi na, di ko na natry.
ok kausap si sir rex, very accomodating at mabait na tao. para nga kami nasa seminar at cya yung professor, magaling magdiscuss sa mga customers sa shop at kabisado mga audio gears nya. audition and let your ears decide. dito pala puwede gawin yun kasi puwede ka magpalit palit ng gears to try different combinations. nakita ko rin yung synchrony speakers nya worth 100k plus and also tested Martin Logan electrostatic speakers worth 300k pala yun (though i cant afford to buy that one,hehe nacurious lang kung ano ang sound)
in the end, nakabili din naman ako, isang pirasong cd.. hehe. though i'll be back..soon.
That was my favorite audio shop when I was working in Makati! ;D
Post by: Courage on Feb 24, 2015 at 09:49 PM
just want to update this thread.
i just met sir rex of watt hi fi kanina sa makati cinema square looking for a separate music setup, muntik ko pa di makita yung shop nasa tabi lang pala ng dunkin donuts,layo pa naman quezon city to makati. meron din pala sila dalawa pang shop sa ground floor Watts Hi Fi din.
i personaly tested yung bagong dating na PSB imagine XB, yun daw pumalit sa PSB image B6. this was connected to NAD 516 cdp and NAD 326 bee integrated amp. my observation: maganda yung highs and mids, malambing at nakakarelax tumunog, parang ayaw ko na nga umuwi. baka mapuyat ako araw araw pag eto lagi ang kasama ko kasi ang sarap ng tunog. same size cya ng PSB image B5 pero mas maganda sound kasi nasa imagine series cya, angat ng isang level. tested also PSB imagine b speakers, mas maganda ang mids pero at the price of 40k plus, bang for the buck ang imagine xb.
then,pinakabitan ko ng subwoofer yung PSB sub series 200, lalong gumanda ang lows. tight and accurate and bass, perfect combo for music setup. plan ko pa sana itry yung Rel T5 pero since gumagabi na, di ko na natry.
ok kausap si sir rex, very accomodating at mabait na tao. para nga kami nasa seminar at cya yung professor, magaling magdiscuss sa mga customers sa shop at kabisado mga audio gears nya. audition and let your ears decide. dito pala puwede gawin yun kasi puwede ka magpalit palit ng gears to try different combinations. nakita ko rin yung synchrony speakers nya worth 100k plus and also tested Martin Logan electrostatic speakers worth 300k pala yun (though i cant afford to buy that one,hehe nacurious lang kung ano ang sound)
in the end, nakabili din naman ako, isang pirasong cd.. hehe. though i'll be back..soon.
The best talaga dyan.... The best si Rex at yung Tito nya... Lahat ng Audio gears ko dyan galing.. From amp, pre amp, sub, at speakers he he he
And lahat ng speakers ko from HT to Audio puro PSB... Sub lang hindi pero kina rex din galing..
Post by: rexFi on Feb 25, 2015 at 09:12 AM
Post by: zram18 on Feb 26, 2015 at 07:55 PM
Post by: rexFi on Feb 26, 2015 at 08:28 PM
Post by: Courage on Feb 26, 2015 at 08:48 PM
di ko pa try ang Rel T5, kc baka pag narinig ko, magamit ko credit card ko ng hindi oras..hehe
Try it. Di ka mag sisisi... Its worthit..
Post by: sientobente on Feb 26, 2015 at 11:46 PM
Regarding the T5, I'm not sure if their listening environment will give justice to REL. Napansin ko kasi sa REL, mas maganda kapag mas maraming reflective surface like wood. It makes the small sub sound larger without compromising zero localization.
Post by: zram18 on Mar 02, 2015 at 11:07 AM
or you have both Rel T5 and PSB300?
Post by: sientobente on Mar 02, 2015 at 01:52 PM
sir, napansin ko lang, you re an avid fan of Rel T5 but why did you buy PSB 300 instead? yun bang reflective surfaces sa listening environment mo ang reason why you choose PSB300?I have both sir. The Subseries 300 is connected to my 5.2 HT, while the REL T5 is in my 2.1 Condo Setup. Solb kahit magisa lang yung Subseries 300 sa 36sqm bedroom ko. ;)
or you have both Rel T5 and PSB300?
Post by: Courage on Mar 02, 2015 at 02:11 PM
I have both sir. The Subseries 300 is connected to my 5.2 HT, while the REL T5 is in my 2.1 Condo Setup. Solb kahit magisa lang yung Subseries 300 sa 36sqm bedroom ko. ;)
Pang romantic audio yung Setup ni Gerard sa Condo kaya andun ang Rel...
Post by: zram18 on Mar 02, 2015 at 05:03 PM
Post by: Courage on Mar 02, 2015 at 11:16 PM
wow, nice you have both brands of sub. romantic audio di ba for bachelor's pad yun? :)
Bachelor pa yang si Gerard....
Post by: dodie on Mar 10, 2015 at 12:28 AM
I have both sir. The Subseries 300 is connected to my 5.2 HT, while the REL T5 is in my 2.1 Condo Setup. Solb kahit magisa lang yung Subseries 300 sa 36sqm bedroom ko. ;)
ang yaman mo talaga master chikboy, 36sqm ang bedroom pa lang!!!! hehehehehe :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
sarap maglaro ng habolhabolan jan! ;D ;D >:D
Post by: Courage on Mar 10, 2015 at 12:34 AM
ang yaman mo talaga master chikboy, 36sqm ang bedroom pa lang!!!! hehehehehe :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
sarap maglaro ng habolhabolan jan! ;D ;D >:D
Kelangan malaki room pag anim ang chicks na kasama...
Post by: sientobente on Mar 10, 2015 at 01:59 AM
Post by: Courage on Mar 11, 2015 at 12:22 PM
Awesome detail
Sound really really Big
Awesome Bass, like One B
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8691/16749995406_d55d197920_c.jpg)
Post by: AppleMan on Mar 11, 2015 at 12:36 PM
Post by: meat_eater on Mar 11, 2015 at 12:39 PM
Synchrony One C
Awesome detail
Sound really really Big
Awesome Bass, like One B
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8691/16749995406_d55d197920_c.jpg)
Congrats! lipat na si Synchrony BS sa HT. hehehe.
Or palitan na ng Synchrony set ung ht. hehehe
Post by: Courage on Mar 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM
Congrats! lipat na si Synchrony BS sa HT. hehehe.
Or palitan na ng Synchrony set ung ht. hehehe
Going full Synhcrony sa HT bro.. though same speakers will be used for Audio.. Wala lang akong makitang Synchrony Two B dito, di daw nilabas dito sa pinas.. Ayaw ko naman mag Synchrony S for surround kasi bukod sa mahal, sayang yung speakers kasi for surrounds lang eh kasing presyo ba naman ng One B
Post by: meat_eater on Mar 11, 2015 at 01:08 PM
Going full Synhcrony sa HT bro.. though same speakers will be used for Audio.. Wala lang akong makitang Synchrony Two B dito, di daw nilabas dito sa pinas.. Ayaw ko naman mag Synchrony S for surround kasi bukod sa mahal, sayang yung speakers kasi for surrounds lang eh kasing presyo ba naman ng One B
Ganda nian boss!
Congrats!!
Baka mag out ka ng image b4 if meron ka, pm mo sakin. Hehehe
Enjoy sir! :)
Post by: Courage on Mar 11, 2015 at 01:14 PM
Ganda nian boss!
Congrats!!
Baka mag out ka ng image b4 if meron ka, pm mo sakin. Hehehe
Enjoy sir! :)
T6 gusto mo? he he he
Post by: meat_eater on Mar 11, 2015 at 01:22 PM
Pero ganda din nun. Hehehehe
Post by: Courage on Mar 11, 2015 at 01:30 PM
Nako, anlaki. Hehehe....
Pero ganda din nun. Hehehehe
Yup maganda nga he he he... Bagay na bagay sayo yun he he he...
Post by: gecs105 on Mar 11, 2015 at 01:43 PM
Post by: Courage on Mar 11, 2015 at 01:45 PM
am planning to replace my rotel 06se with rega brio-r. ok ba psb image b6 and rega brio-r combi? thanks.
I'm sure ok yan.. Di ko pa nadinig tumunog ng pangit ang B6 sa lahat ng Amp/receiver na napagtestingan ko
Post by: luis on Mar 11, 2015 at 02:00 PM
am planning to replace my rotel 06se with rega brio-r. ok ba psb image b6 and rega brio-r combi? thanks.heard the combo before, brio-r and b6, warm and big sounding. :)
Post by: gecs105 on Mar 11, 2015 at 02:05 PM
Post by: esr101 on Mar 11, 2015 at 04:28 PM
Post by: luis on Mar 11, 2015 at 04:50 PM
i paired my rega brio-r with a psb image t5 and I bet that will sound good as well. Also you won't regret getting a rega brio-r.another great combo, brio-r & Image T5. ;D
Post by: esr101 on Mar 11, 2015 at 04:51 PM
another great combo, brio-r & Image T5. ;D
Yes sir it is!
Post by: jlaw on Mar 11, 2015 at 09:14 PM
Post by: kranoz on Mar 11, 2015 at 09:40 PM
meron bang mga X2T owners dito? San nyo nabili, if you don't mind how much?tyMay nagbebenta ng x2t sa marketplace, check mo.
Post by: Courage on Mar 11, 2015 at 09:42 PM
meron bang mga X2T owners dito? San nyo nabili, if you don't mind how much?ty
Check mo sa Watts Hi Fi sa Makati Cinema Square. Look for Rex
Post by: sientobente on Mar 11, 2015 at 09:42 PM
Synchrony One CWow naman idol! anu na gagamitin mo for audio? I smell an upgrade ;)
Awesome detail
Sound really really Big
Awesome Bass, like One B
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8691/16749995406_d55d197920_c.jpg)
Post by: Courage on Mar 11, 2015 at 09:47 PM
Wow naman idol! anu na gagamitin mo for audio? I smell an upgrade ;)
He he he... Will use the Synchrony for Audio and HT... Ayaw ko na madami speakers tutal wala na ako PJ so nasa Sala na din ang HT. Lipat na lang cable pag mag audio or mag HT... Will be disposing all the Image Speakers.
Wala lang mabilhan ng Synchrony two B. Mahal kasi sobra ng Synchrony S. Ka presyo ng One B
Post by: jlaw on Mar 11, 2015 at 09:57 PM
Check mo sa Watts Hi Fi sa Makati Cinema Square. Look for Rex
thanks but ang layo. i'm from marikina. pano ba pumunta dito if ever?
Post by: Courage on Mar 11, 2015 at 10:12 PM
thanks but ang layo. i'm from marikina. pano ba pumunta dito if ever?
Meron din kay AVSHOP.. mas malapit yun, sa Kalayaan QC
Post by: zram18 on Mar 11, 2015 at 10:15 PM
simple lang, take the MRT (wag lang rush hour kc puno MRT), then baba ka MRT Magallanes Station. beside that station, maraming jeepneys along Pasong Tamo St and these jeepneys are all passing Makati Cinema Square.
Post by: jlaw on Mar 11, 2015 at 10:19 PM
Post by: zram18 on Mar 11, 2015 at 10:24 PM
pero call ka muna kung may stocks sila or kung may available na nakasetup na psb, kc last month i was there sa AV shop wala daw stock na PSB at ang nakaset up sa kanila last month is the Golden Ear Triton. meron din naman PSB pero per order basis daw. nakaready sila that time yung polk audio, Q acoustics, Golden ear,etc.
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 11, 2015 at 10:28 PM
Post by: pentium4 on Mar 11, 2015 at 10:34 PM
Synchrony One C
Awesome detail
Sound really really Big
Awesome Bass, like One B
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8691/16749995406_d55d197920_c.jpg)
Abah! Matinde...
Di na pwede pylox dyan ha. Hehe. Mapapa aga yata.
Post by: Courage on Mar 11, 2015 at 11:01 PM
Abah! Matinde...
Di na pwede pylox dyan ha. Hehe. Mapapa aga yata.
Ano bro, kunin mo na si T6 at C60? he he he
Post by: kranoz on Mar 13, 2015 at 07:23 AM
Synchrony One C
Awesome detail
Sound really really Big
Awesome Bass, like One B
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8691/16749995406_d55d197920_c.jpg)
Congrats Sir Courage!
Eto yung Top of the line ng PSB right?
I couldn't find it directly sa PSB website pero nasearch ko looks like a hidden link. :)
Post by: Courage on Mar 13, 2015 at 08:49 AM
Congrats Sir Courage!
Eto yung Top of the line ng PSB right?
I couldn't find it directly sa PSB website pero nasearch ko looks like a hidden link. :)
Thanks.. And yup Synchrony is the top of the line before.. Its no longer in production thats why it's in the Archived link.
Post by: zram18 on Mar 13, 2015 at 10:32 PM
Post by: Courage on Mar 14, 2015 at 03:29 PM
wow,nice gear. synchrony level ka na pala sir. :)
He he he thanks.. It's my dream speaker setup... Mahal lang ng Synchrony S Surround kaya Image B6 na lang ginamit ko. Wala din makunan ng smaller Synchrony Two B bookshelf dito. Ganda sana for surrounds nun..
Post by: _efren_ on Mar 15, 2015 at 02:38 AM
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 15, 2015 at 07:33 AM
Post by: gecs105 on Mar 15, 2015 at 07:48 AM
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 15, 2015 at 05:02 PM
1. Would PSB speakers sound good with Marantz receivers?
2. Also, taking into account that the Marantz is more musical than say, an Onkyo or a Yamaha, if the intention is to put up a separate audio set up anyway, would it be better to get a more HT-geared receiver (like the aforementioned Onkyo and Yamaha)?
3. Would the PSB speakers sound good with either the Onkyo or Yamaha?
Post by: zram18 on Mar 16, 2015 at 04:10 PM
because someone is selling his psb+marantz combo in the marketplace. maybe that combo is not a good match (daw)?
but i have read from the threads that the following are good match:
psb + nad integrated amp
psb + yamaha AVR
psb + denon AVR
Post by: AppleMan on Mar 16, 2015 at 04:48 PM
Post by: Courage on Mar 16, 2015 at 05:30 PM
Three questions -
1. Would PSB speakers sound good with Marantz receivers?
2. Also, taking into account that the Marantz is more musical than say, an Onkyo or a Yamaha, if the intention is to put up a separate audio set up anyway, would it be better to get a more HT-geared receiver (like the aforementioned Onkyo and Yamaha)?
3. Would the PSB speakers sound good with either the Onkyo or Yamaha?
I have a Yamaha RX-A2000 and i Paired it with PSB B6 and T6. Sounded really good for both Movies and Music. This is my combination until i upgraded my Speakers to PSB Synchrony
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 16, 2015 at 05:41 PM
I have a Yamaha RX-A2000 and i Paired it with PSB B6 and T6. Sounded really good for both Movies and Music. This is my combination until i upgraded my Speakers to PSB SynchronyOh, I thought you had a Marantz amp din?
Post by: Courage on Mar 16, 2015 at 06:08 PM
Oh, I thought you had a Marantz amp din?
Nope.. I have a NAD 275 Amp and NAD 165 Pre-amp for my Audio setup.. My HT is Yamaha and PSB T6, B6 and C60... but now i upgraded my HT to SYnchrony setup. Im using now same speakers for Audio and HT. I just move cables if i watching movie or listening to music. I do have a Marantz but it's a Network Audio Player.
Post by: jlaw on Mar 16, 2015 at 06:10 PM
questions -
2. Also, taking into account that the Marantz is more musical than say, an Onkyo or a Yamaha
Marantz and Onkyo are more musical. Yamaha at least the regular ones are more on HT.
Post by: zram18 on Mar 16, 2015 at 08:33 PM
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 17, 2015 at 01:04 AM
Post by: meat_eater on Mar 17, 2015 at 07:36 AM
Now what gives a more linear and flat response is a different issue, now those can be measured, but by no means a gauge of whats better or worse, because the "flavor" that one prefers is in itself subjective.
I personally prefer a tone that is near neutral, with strong emphasis on the mid range and with slightly rolled off highs (to some, this is slightly warm), which is the reason why I have tubes for my stereo, wherein tube rolling is an option to cater to my tastes.
For ht, I prefer a neutral if not flat response curve, which for some might appear a little "bright" when playing movies (movies were recorded that way), which is the reason why I use Audyssey's FLAT eq, my room though is treated, which of course affects the sound - for better or for worse.
In my personal and subjective taste, both flavors are musical to me.
Cheers :)
Post by: luis on Mar 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM
;D
Post by: zram18 on Mar 20, 2015 at 02:04 PM
several pdvd members here are awaiting your review of the X2T, ok ba ang sound?
Post by: luis on Mar 20, 2015 at 02:31 PM
correct me if im wrong, but i think you are the winning bidder of the X2T...hehe. youre such a lucky guy. :)
several pdvd members here are awaiting your review of the X2T, ok ba ang sound?
quickie lang:
xavian altea vs psb x2t = cleaner highs and mids for altea, more pronounced lows for x2t. altea transparent and better imaging; x2t warm and better balance of high, mid and low.
which one is better? depends on the preference of the listener and also depends on the amp that you have.
;D
Post by: guido on Mar 22, 2015 at 08:15 PM
Three questions -
1. Would PSB speakers sound good with Marantz receivers?
2. Also, taking into account that the Marantz is more musical than say, an Onkyo or a Yamaha, if the intention is to put up a separate audio set up anyway, would it be better to get a more HT-geared receiver (like the aforementioned Onkyo and Yamaha)?
3. Would the PSB speakers sound good with either the Onkyo or Yamaha?
sir
I have a yamaha and a marantz amp and an image b6. yun b6 bagay sa yamaha ko. pag sa marantz, a bit too warm for my taste. pero ok pa rin naman
ang ka partner ng marantz ko is an aaudio D1 (which i consider brighter than b6) sa small ht room namin which doubles as my office.
sa sala yung yamaha-b6 for pure music listening lang. mas sensitive din kasi b6 so yun nilagay ko sa open room. imho match ang yamaha-b6
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 22, 2015 at 08:28 PM
sir
I have a yamaha and a marantz amp and an image b6. yun b6 bagay sa yamaha ko. pag sa marantz, a bit too warm for my taste. pero ok pa rin naman
hi guido! I appreciate the input from a marantz owner. What kind of marantz amp do you have - is it one for HT talaga, meaning not an integrated stereo amp?
Post by: guido on Mar 22, 2015 at 08:36 PM
yun yamaha din. my old htr6140. lalo siguro ok kung stereo amp gagamitin sa b6
Post by: kranoz on Mar 24, 2015 at 10:22 AM
Not sure if I'll upgrade to Towers in the future or maintain ko lang BS speakers.
Post by: luis on Mar 24, 2015 at 10:37 AM
Ano po minimum room size pag PSB Tower speakers like PSB Image T6 or PSB Imagine X2T?
Not sure if I'll upgrade to Towers in the future or maintain ko lang BS speakers.
20 sq meter, pwede na floorstander sir... ;D
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 25, 2015 at 07:23 PM
https://youtu.be/FRr5zY-7Jsg
Post by: zram18 on Mar 25, 2015 at 08:03 PM
with the advent of new technology and the arrival of new digital sources, speakers still evolve as time goes by to cope with the new sound dynamics unknown in the past.thats why PSB creator Paul Burton deems it necessary to create this new PSB speakers.
to sum it up, the 1 hour video explains the newly released Imagine T3-with the 5-driver array,it was declared that this is the new flagship of PSB.
but how i wish i can afford that with the price of $3,750. hehe. siguro pagdating d2 sa pinas, abutin pa yan ng 180k pesos. :)
Post by: esr101 on Mar 26, 2015 at 01:37 PM
Post by: sientobente on Mar 27, 2015 at 01:05 AM
Post by: esr101 on Mar 27, 2015 at 09:27 AM
I think vintage SS amps work, but if it's a tube amp, I am not a fan of the pairing.
Care to elaborate why you're not a fan of the pairing if tube amp?
Post by: Pandidoy on Mar 27, 2015 at 09:51 AM
>:D
Post by: luis on Mar 27, 2015 at 09:54 AM
imagine b sounded like a floor stander, great combination. it's just that I was able to get 2 pairs of floorstanders that is why I was forced to sell the imagine B.
;D
Post by: esr101 on Mar 27, 2015 at 10:04 AM
Post by: luis on Mar 27, 2015 at 10:54 AM
Looking into a dynaco st-70 and psb combination for tube set-up. If solid state then looking for a sansui amplifier to pair it with.
PSBs are warm sounding and forgiving speakers, best to pair them with transparent or neutral or detailed sounding amp regardless whether ss or tube.
if you have a bookshelf pwede ss for more lows, if you have floorstander pwede tube for more details.
happy hunting.
;D
Post by: esr101 on Mar 27, 2015 at 11:02 AM
Post by: luis on Mar 27, 2015 at 11:38 AM
Its a PSB image T5 amp that i'm planning to pair with. I would want to maximize the potential of the speaker instead of just getting a new one.optimized result:
power: SS 120 - 150 wpc or tube 40 wpc and up
sound quality: depends on your preference.
my experience with T5 is that's its warmish with crisp highs.
still, best to audition.
;D
Post by: esr101 on Mar 27, 2015 at 11:42 AM
1. Dynaco ST-70 series II with LPA
2. Sansui AU-D707F Extra Integrated amplifier
Mcintosh SS combo din possible but I think I need a better speaker for that one.
Post by: luis on Mar 27, 2015 at 12:03 PM
Specs you mentioned are exactly what i'm looking at. I'm still creating a list of what i want to listen to. So far I have the following so far:
1. Dynaco ST-70 series II with LPA
2. Sansui AU-D707F Extra Integrated amplifier
Mcintosh SS combo din possible but I think I need a better speaker for that one.
dynaco will give you details and lambing, emotional. jazz, voices, mellow song, standards.
no experience with sansui.
;D
Post by: esr101 on Mar 27, 2015 at 12:04 PM
Post by: meat_eater on Mar 27, 2015 at 12:06 PM
How about rock like led zep, eric clapton or even metallica?
Just tube roll to your preferences, that's the beauty of tube amps. :)
Post by: esr101 on Mar 27, 2015 at 12:16 PM
Just tube roll to your preferences, that's the beauty of tube amps. :)
Nice. Thanks for all the replies. Will prioritize tube amps muna
Post by: meat_eater on Mar 27, 2015 at 12:54 PM
Nice. Thanks for all the replies. Will prioritize tube amps muna
I paired my B6 to a 38 watt el34, and so far so good. I like it very much :)
Sometimes it's running nos, sometimes new, sometimes a mixture of new and nos.
Depende sa trip :) But thats my subjective take on sound. :)
As long as the impedance of the speaker does not swing wildly, a tube amp can handle the speaker. The imagine T and image B6 barely dips down below 6 ohms across the frequency range.
The imagine t2, t3, and the Image t6/Imagine x2t are however, difficult loads, dipping down to around 2.8 - 3 ohms. For those, a good 4 ohm power amp is highly recommended.
Cheers :)
Post by: esr101 on Mar 27, 2015 at 02:05 PM
I'm still curious sa sansui AU-d707F Extra or au-d907 + psb image t5 pairing. I will have to satisfy my curiosity on that one din.
Post by: sientobente on Mar 28, 2015 at 01:52 AM
Care to elaborate why you're not a fan of the pairing if tube amp?What I like about PSB is their lively warm character and it has a lot of dynamics. I only have heard a KT88 tube amp(Cayin with stock tubes) paired with an Image & Synchrony. It loses a lot of that liveliness and dynamics that I like paired with that amp. I am used to PSB being forward sounding, with a tube amp, it tries to lay back a bit changing how the image should be projected. I am only guessing that with an EL34 amp, which usually has less current, it might change it even more.
But I do agree, it is a subjective taste. It's still PSB + SS amp for me. Not just any SS Amp, Rotel is a bad pairing in my opinion. I like warm and fat sounding SS amps paired with it like NAD, Musical Fidelity and Marantz.
Post by: esr101 on Mar 28, 2015 at 09:04 AM
Post by: _efren_ on Mar 30, 2015 at 08:14 PM
but how i wish i can afford that with the price of $3,750. hehe. siguro pagdating d2 sa pinas, abutin pa yan ng 180k pesos. :)
The $3750 price of the T3 is actually per PIECE! So $7500 for a pair. Definitely more than 180k pesos pag dating dito. Maybe around 360-380k is my guess.
The T3 is definitely PSB's new flagship. Positioned higher pa than the old Synchrony One.
Post by: meat_eater on Mar 31, 2015 at 07:12 AM
The $3750 price of the T3 is actually per PIECE! So $7500 for a pair. Definitely more than 180k pesos pag dating dito. Maybe around 360-380k is my guess.
The T3 is definitely PSB's new flagship. Positioned higher pa than the old Synchrony One.
Probably the reason why the Synchrony line was culled. However, I think that the engineers in the PSB facility are cooking something, most likely a new top of the line model that would replace the old Synchrony...
Im sure it gonna sound good... and Im sure I wont be able to afford it. hehehehehhe
Post by: kranoz on Mar 31, 2015 at 07:59 AM
Is this pairing any good?
Post by: armymanhaha on Mar 31, 2015 at 07:19 PM
Probably the reason why the Synchrony line was culled. However, I think that the engineers in the PSB facility are cooking something, most likely a new top of the line model that would replace the old Synchrony...
Im sure it gonna sound good... and Im sure I wont be able to afford it. hehehehehhe
Damn, siguro nagmahal manufacturing na inaasahan ng PSB kaya ganyan kamahal yang bagong Imagine series nila. Makes me wonder how much the true successor to the Synchrony will be. Aluminum baffle and rear kasi tong Synchrony One B ko and the build is incredible for its price range dati. Pano pa pag naglabas si Barton ng kapalit :|
Post by: _efren_ on Apr 10, 2015 at 01:02 AM
From the specs alone the T3 looks very good. Bass to 24Hz at -3dB on the listening axis, with extension to 20Hz. Will be interesting when professional reviews come in. Hopefully someone compares with the Synchrony One.
Post by: Arulco on Apr 10, 2015 at 12:52 PM
Considering the price of the T3 if Mr. Barton will introduce an even higher end speaker it will probably be statement class already and compete with the likes of Wilson and Vandersteen.
Although I'm not ruling out the possibility that the parent company might decide to do that, Mr. Barton himself does not aspire PSB to come up with super exotic speakers in that price range since he places more importance in value and performance.
An Interview with Paul Barton of PSB Speakers and NAD Electronics - Head-Fi TV
https://youtu.be/qhQo5bKb06Y (https://youtu.be/qhQo5bKb06Y)
Post by: armymanhaha on Apr 10, 2015 at 02:29 PM
Post by: Arulco on Apr 10, 2015 at 04:54 PM
Post by: _efren_ on Apr 11, 2015 at 01:50 AM
I'd really like to see Paul Barton build something similar.
Post by: esr101 on Apr 19, 2015 at 08:07 PM
The B1 is already a great budget speaker but if you really want to open up the sound this is really a recommended upgrade.
I was choosing between B&W 685 S2 and this one and this one is the clear winner for me.
Post by: Courage on Apr 19, 2015 at 08:41 PM
Upgraded my PSB Alpha B1 to imagine XB and all I can say is that its really an amazing experience. Good bass, good detail and the mids are great.
The B1 is already a great budget speaker but if you really want to open up the sound this is really a recommended upgrade.
I was choosing between B&W 685 S2 and this one and this one is the clear winner for me.
Congrats bro.. What amp are you matching the XB with?
Post by: esr101 on Apr 19, 2015 at 09:14 PM
Post by: neilc on Apr 19, 2015 at 10:04 PM
Post by: luis on Apr 21, 2015 at 09:20 AM
My PSB X2T really matches great with my NAD integrated amplifier.
good morning.
what nad amp are you matching it with? pa share naman ng listening impression. tia. ;D
Post by: neilc on Apr 21, 2015 at 10:57 AM
good morning.
what nad amp are you matching it with? pa share naman ng listening impression. tia. ;D
I'm using NAD 326BEE. Comparing it with my B&W 685 S2 bookshelf, the mids are better. Also I'm kind of longing for some bass which the bookshelf can't give.
I can now do away with my subs but of course it's much better with the subs
Post by: meat_eater on Apr 21, 2015 at 11:38 AM
Those are good sounding speakers imho, Ive heard it sa Watts Hifi
Post by: Courage on Apr 21, 2015 at 11:50 AM
I'm using NAD 326BEE. Comparing it with my B&W 685 S2 bookshelf, the mids are better. Also I'm kind of longing for some bass which the bookshelf can't give.
I can now do away with my subs but of course it's much better with the subs
Sir.. try to pair your Setup with Rel Sub T or R
Post by: neilc on Apr 21, 2015 at 12:17 PM
Sir.. try to pair your Setup with Rel Sub T or R
I have a Mirage S8 and Polk PSW110 already bro :) wala ng budget for a Rel
Post by: luis on Apr 21, 2015 at 05:38 PM
I'm using NAD 326BEE. Comparing it with my B&W 685 S2 bookshelf, the mids are better. Also I'm kind of longing for some bass which the bookshelf can't give.
I can now do away with my subs but of course it's much better with the subs
kaya ba ng nad326 yung psbx2t? hindi bitin 50 wpc, i read kasi na medyo demanding yung x2t? ;D
Post by: neilc on Apr 21, 2015 at 08:51 PM
kaya ba ng nad326 yung psbx2t? hindi bitin 50 wpc, i read kasi na medyo demanding yung x2t? ;D
Volume knob, on the average is at 10 to 12 o clock bro. Mukha namang kaya. Planning to get a power amp in the future
Post by: sientobente on Apr 22, 2015 at 01:25 AM
kaya ba ng nad326 yung psbx2t? hindi bitin 50 wpc, i read kasi na medyo demanding yung x2t? ;D
Kaya naman sir. I think among 50-watters, the 326 provides good value for money. In comparison to the rega brio-r's 50 wpc, ang hina nung rega. Almost like you are using a flea SET amp because it sounds anemic. The 326 is brash and provides good bass weight which makes it sound more powerful. To compare the 326 against the 356, almost inaudible ang difference using the X2T. That additional power I think can be appreciated when you use the Imagine B/T up.
Post by: armymanhaha on Apr 22, 2015 at 06:06 AM
Post by: luis on Apr 22, 2015 at 09:58 AM
hey guys alam nyo ba SRP ng imagine x tower?
good morning.
you may contact rex 0918-2380219 or you may pm him. ;D
Kaya naman sir. I think among 50-watters, the 326 provides good value for money. In comparison to the rega brio-r's 50 wpc, ang hina nung rega. Almost like you are using a flea SET amp because it sounds anemic. The 326 is brash and provides good bass weight which makes it sound more powerful. To compare the 326 against the 356, almost inaudible ang difference using the X2T. That additional power I think can be appreciated when you use the Imagine B/T up.
thanks sir for the insight, i was thinking kasi na baka mas better match yung nad375. it was a recommended pair during last Nov hifi show. ;D
Post by: Courage on Apr 22, 2015 at 01:35 PM
hey guys alam nyo ba SRP ng imagine x tower?
Uyy brader mukang may planong mag palit ah.. he he he sabihan mo ako pag sawa ka na sa One B mo he he he
Post by: luis on Apr 22, 2015 at 01:57 PM
Uyy brader mukang may planong mag palit ah.. he he he sabihan mo ako pag sawa ka na sa One B mo he he he
+1 ;D
approve!
Post by: armymanhaha on Apr 22, 2015 at 06:14 PM
Post by: _efren_ on May 03, 2015 at 08:39 PM
From an audiogon forum thread (http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?cspkr&1420484435&openflup&16&4#16) among former Synchrony One owners and a dealer:
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03-25-15: Audiotroy
We just got our demo pair of T3 in to the shop and I have to agree with the other posters, for the money they are amazing speakers,
We compared the T3 to the Syn One we just took a pair back in trade and the difference is huge.
The Mc eq will make a small difference in making an older bad 80's recording any difference, as the recording technology and mastering for many recordings had too much compression
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3-31-15: Audiotroy
Update on our demo pair which are really starting to sing.
The shops owner has been breaking the speakers in every day since they first came in and boy have they gotten even better.
We are both blown away the T3 is a completely different animal from any past PSB. These are world class speakers which have more in common with $10k and above priced speakers.
The clarity in the treble is world class so is the bass. Macro dynamics are also exceptional.
We are just amazed at how good these new speakers really are, and we have a great $10k system set up with the new $2,500 Parasound Halo integrated amp/dac.
Post by: armymanhaha on May 04, 2015 at 09:07 AM
Im excited to hear the T3 as well. Perhaps it would replace my current PSB. Audiophilia Nervosa anyone? :D
Post by: _efren_ on May 04, 2015 at 12:44 PM
Post by: _efren_ on Jun 28, 2015 at 04:52 AM
https://youtu.be/-0fbedm-02s
Post by: esr101 on Jul 13, 2015 at 12:32 AM
So far I like what i'm hearing with this pairing.
Post by: luis on Jul 13, 2015 at 10:02 AM
Borrowed a Sansui AU-D707F Extra and paired it with a PSB imagine XB. I was surprised na bagay siya. I tried it with a Marantz 2245 but the Sansui surprisingly beat the Marantz in terms of pairing with PSB. Maybe a big factor is because Sansui is 95W compared to Marantz's 45W rating.
So far I like what i'm hearing with this pairing.
quality and quantity of watts really matters. ;D
Post by: esr101 on Jul 13, 2015 at 10:16 AM
Post by: kranoz on Jul 15, 2015 at 06:28 AM
Post by: sientobente on Jul 15, 2015 at 08:34 AM
Post by: esr101 on Oct 05, 2015 at 12:13 PM
What I like about PSB is their lively warm character and it has a lot of dynamics. I only have heard a KT88 tube amp(Cayin with stock tubes) paired with an Image & Synchrony. It loses a lot of that liveliness and dynamics that I like paired with that amp. I am used to PSB being forward sounding, with a tube amp, it tries to lay back a bit changing how the image should be projected. I am only guessing that with an EL34 amp, which usually has less current, it might change it even more.
But I do agree, it is a subjective taste. It's still PSB + SS amp for me. Not just any SS Amp, Rotel is a bad pairing in my opinion. I like warm and fat sounding SS amps paired with it like NAD, Musical Fidelity and Marantz.
Got a chance to hear a PSB paired with tube power amplifier. We tried an all tube and a SS preamp/tube amplifier combination. On those combinations. sound became mellow which was really good for vocals and has a very relaxing sound. However it indeed loses its liveliness. You would really notice the big difference. Played Led Zeps Moby dick and the energy of John Bonhams playing the drums just wasn't there.
Post by: robdjhojd on Dec 09, 2015 at 02:57 PM
Post by: zram18 on Dec 09, 2015 at 04:36 PM
Image C5 is not on the bright side, so not matched for me.
Post by: luis on Dec 09, 2015 at 04:37 PM
No sir, it should be Polk RTI A6 as center for the RTIA9 so they have timbre matching,same sound signature and same level of brightness.
Image C5 is not on the bright side, so not matched for me.
you are correct sir! psb has a different timbre from polk. ;D
Post by: neilc on Dec 09, 2015 at 04:55 PM
Post by: luis on Dec 09, 2015 at 05:04 PM
My PSB X2T and my NAD 275/165 combo is a match made in heaven!
agree ako dyan sir! happy listening. ;D
Post by: Courage on Dec 09, 2015 at 07:34 PM
My PSB X2T and my NAD 275/165 combo is a match made in heaven!
Nice one bro... Agree akondyan he he he.... Congratsssss
Post by: zram18 on Dec 09, 2015 at 07:47 PM
Post by: Courage on Dec 09, 2015 at 07:52 PM
di mo ba namiss sir? :)
I still have my Synchrony with me he he he... And once in a while i use it for music.. Pero more on HT sya..
Post by: Icermad on Feb 12, 2016 at 11:51 AM
Before I make a final decision, will you recommend going for a BS than a FS?
I'm originally leaning towards the X2T kaya lang baka overkill? I have some acoustic panels not sure how much difference it will make
Post by: gutierrez on Feb 12, 2016 at 12:10 PM
Hi guys.. for a small room around 10 to 12sqm
Before I make a final decision, will you recommend going for a BS than a FS?
I'm originally leaning towards the X2T kaya lang baka overkill? I have some acoustic panels not sure how much difference it will make
FS and dual subs (seriously)
Post by: Icermad on Feb 12, 2016 at 12:17 PM
Post by: Courage on Feb 12, 2016 at 12:24 PM
Kaya lang I don't think I have space for a dual sub e.. I live in a condo lang din kasi.. but will move out din to a bigger place
For that size ok na ang Imagine XB, Imagine XC then you can use Alpha B1 for surround or smaller PSB bookshelf.
After that, i suggest mag concentrate ka sa SUB.. Dual sub if you can. SVS is the best
Post by: Icermad on Feb 12, 2016 at 12:50 PM
Post by: Courage on Feb 12, 2016 at 12:55 PM
Ok sabagay..then when I move to a bigger place I can just buy the X2T then use the XB as surrounds..hehehe talagang eversince kasi gusto ko lang magFS kaya parang nakamind set ako dun..
Magandang plan yan sir.... If you will be using a sub, then i suggest you get the bookshelf. Yung natipid mo, mag concentrate ka sa magandang sub
Post by: Icermad on Feb 12, 2016 at 01:01 PM
Post by: Courage on Feb 12, 2016 at 03:12 PM
Svs sir no? I have dsw 500 right now..ok na ba yun?
So far for me, SVS is the best sub available here. I've tried diff brands and even owned one. Noon, ayaw ko pa SVS because its expensive so nag try ako ng diff brand. Hanggang sa nakaipon ako and finally nakabili ng SVS which is only last year, then saka ako nag sisi na sana pala dati pa lang nag SVS na ako... Iba talaga SVS sir..
Post by: Icermad on Feb 12, 2016 at 04:51 PM
Post by: rexFi on Feb 12, 2016 at 05:26 PM
So far for me, SVS is the best sub available here. I've tried diff brands and even owned one. Noon, ayaw ko pa SVS because its expensive so nag try ako ng diff brand. Hanggang sa nakaipon ako and finally nakabili ng SVS which is only last year, then saka ako nag sisi na sana pala dati pa lang nag SVS na ako... Iba talaga SVS sir..
Ahh ok, so for me sir skip ko na magRega noh? ;D
SVS na kagad?
(no offense sa Rega Fans here, tanong lang po)
Post by: Courage on Feb 12, 2016 at 05:28 PM
Ahh ok, so for me sir skip ko na magRega noh? ;D
SVS na kagad?
(no offense sa Rega Fans here, tanong lang po)
Rega SUB?
Post by: luis on Feb 14, 2016 at 08:18 PM
Post by: rexFi on Feb 15, 2016 at 10:17 AM
Rega SUB?
REL pala, haha. Nalilito ako sa dalawang brand. :)
Post by: Courage on Feb 15, 2016 at 10:27 AM
REL pala, haha. Nalilito ako sa dalawang brand. :)
Well i have both SVS and the REL sub, all i can say is SVS won the movies department(Ported ones, PB12NSD to be exatc) and the REL won the Music Department. I tried to use the SVS(PB12NSD) sa music and didnt like it. I tried to use my REL sa Movies and maganda naman, di nya lang talaga kaya ang yanig factor ng PB12NSD. I guess if i compare the REL to let say SB12NSD then it's a different story, though never tried one kasi i dont have the SB model of SVS.
So if purely movies, panalo talaga ang SVS lalo na ang ported subs nila. DUAL agad kung kaya.
Post by: Lancito on Feb 15, 2016 at 10:53 AM
Post by: rexFi on Feb 15, 2016 at 10:58 AM
Well i have both SVS and the REL sub, all i can say is SVS won the movies department(Ported ones, PB12NSD to be exatc) and the REL won the Music Department. I tried to use the SVS(PB12NSD) sa music and didnt like it. I tried to use my REL sa Movies and maganda naman, di nya lang talaga kaya ang yanig factor ng PB12NSD. I guess if i compare the REL to let say SB12NSD then it's a different story, though never tried one kasi i dont have the SB model of SVS.
So if purely movies, panalo talaga ang SVS lalo na ang ported subs nila. DUAL agad kung kaya.
Ahh thanks for the info. :)
Post by: zram18 on Feb 15, 2016 at 07:08 PM
SVS for movies (dual if budget,and space permits)
REL for music (Rel T9 if budget permits coz RelT5 is too small)
Post by: sientobente on Feb 15, 2016 at 11:30 PM
Post by: nomedigas1030 on Mar 09, 2016 at 04:53 AM
im planning to get the x2t, just wondering if it will sound great if paired with an onkyo avr?
my naka try na po ba sainyo?
thanks
Post by: sientobente on Mar 09, 2016 at 05:30 AM
Post by: nomedigas1030 on Mar 09, 2016 at 09:45 AM
Post by: rexFi on Mar 09, 2016 at 10:03 AM
^ That should work well. The X2T is similar to my T6, both can easily be powered by the AVR.
kaya ba ang X2T/T6 ng 326BEE amp?
MaAudition nga din ito kesa magAdd ng Sub and magSabre BookShelf stand pa for my B6. :)
Naalala ko kasi nacompare ko ito sa Symphony One B kaso walang budget.
You think 326BEE+T6/X2T without a sub is ok na sa Music? Thanks.
Post by: Courage on Mar 09, 2016 at 10:09 AM
kaya ba ang X2T/T6 ng 326BEE amp?
MaAudition nga din ito kesa magAdd ng Sub and magSabre BookShelf stand pa for my B6. :)
Naalala ko kasi nacompare ko ito sa Symphony One B kaso walang budget.
You think 326BEE+T6/X2T without a sub is ok na sa Music? Thanks.
That should be ok, pero iba pa din ang may Sub.. I have a T6 before powered by 275Bee and 165 pre, ibang iba pa din talaga ang may sub..
if you can get a One B, mag one B ka kesa T6/X2T.. Mas lamang ang One B in terms of Highs Mids and Lows..
Post by: zram18 on Mar 09, 2016 at 07:34 PM
that's why he bought the separates of sir Courage (and i bought sir Neilc's NAD 326) hehe.
Post by: neilc on Mar 10, 2016 at 12:12 AM
sir,as to NAD 326 bee + x2T setup, i have asked that question to sir Neilc. medyo hirap si NAD 326 pero kaya naman, that's according to fellow pdvd member sir Neilc.
that's why he bought the separates of sir Courage (and i bought sir Neilc's NAD 326) hehe.
Actually, Hindi naman hirap bro. Kaya naman pero iba pa din may sub. Also, I just got a good deal from Courage that's why I sold my 326 hehe.
By the way, will be selling my X2T soon.
Post by: sientobente on Mar 10, 2016 at 01:23 AM
kaya ba ang X2T/T6 ng 326BEE amp?
MaAudition nga din ito kesa magAdd ng Sub and magSabre BookShelf stand pa for my B6. :)
Naalala ko kasi nacompare ko ito sa Symphony One B kaso walang budget.
You think 326BEE+T6/X2T without a sub is ok na sa Music? Thanks.
Actually kaya ng 316Bee ang T6/X2T. Doing an A/B comparison vs being powered by an AVR, malaki pa rin ang lamang ng integrated. So what more if there is additional current coming from the 326BEE. 326BEE vs 356BEE, di ko na marinig ang difference.
Post by: nomedigas1030 on Mar 10, 2016 at 02:27 AM
thanks
Post by: nomedigas1030 on Mar 10, 2016 at 02:29 AM
Actually, Hindi naman hirap bro. Kaya naman pero iba pa din may sub. Also, I just got a good deal from Courage that's why I sold my 326 hehe.
By the way, will be selling my X2T soon.
pm me sir if you decide to sell your x2t.
thanks
Post by: zram18 on Mar 10, 2016 at 12:56 PM
Post by: nomedigas1030 on Mar 16, 2016 at 11:21 PM
thanks
Post by: too jazzy cool on Mar 17, 2016 at 12:08 PM
any difference if its bi-wired? or not needed?
thanks
try it out and find out :).
Post by: sientobente on Mar 17, 2016 at 02:33 PM
Post by: rexFi on Mar 17, 2016 at 05:23 PM
Changing the Interconnects with the same material as my speaker wire made a difference instead.
^ based on what I hear...
Post by: meat_eater on Mar 17, 2016 at 10:40 PM
Now considering getting an imagine B or Imagine T for pure stereo..... Hehehe
Post by: armymanhaha on Mar 17, 2016 at 11:49 PM
Post by: sientobente on Mar 18, 2016 at 12:21 AM
me i have not tried bi-wiring <-- i was discouraged by Otep in Watts.actually bi-amping makes a difference, but not necessarily better. bi-wiring wala talaga :p
Changing the Interconnects with the same material as my speaker wire made a difference instead.
^ based on what I hear...
Post by: nomedigas1030 on Mar 18, 2016 at 01:06 AM
kung magpapalit kaya ako ng mejo magandang speaker wire will it make a difference?
im currently using a standard 12 awg speaker wires.
not that im not satisfied with how psb speaker sounds, they are awesome. napakalinis ng tunog at buong buo, some say x2ts lacks sa high frequency but for me being a jazz, classic, norah jones types of music listener its perfect. medyo relaxing at laid back. ayoko ng maingay
kung mag qed na speaker ako gaganda pa kaya ang tunog?
salamat po sa inputs
Post by: too jazzy cool on Mar 18, 2016 at 08:05 AM
try the entry level furutech at audioworld, for me detailed and quite a bit "sweet" and relaxed.
Post by: Icermad on Mar 18, 2016 at 06:28 PM
Post by: mykel18 on Mar 18, 2016 at 10:54 PM
Does it really make a difference? I mean the speaker wires.. because Im only using ordinary speaker wires.. I read here before na you can't really hear the difference?although not sure maybe technology has changed? Just wanna know para isama ko sa budget for future upgrade hehehe
Yes try to change yours kahit mga entry level and hear the difference. Or if you can borrow then better para marinig mo muna
Post by: zram18 on Mar 18, 2016 at 11:04 PM
Post by: Icermad on Mar 19, 2016 at 01:35 AM
Post by: sientobente on Mar 20, 2016 at 11:43 AM
Post by: rexFi on Mar 21, 2016 at 10:38 AM
Edit: Dali ko pala makulam... :-[
Post by: nomedigas1030 on Mar 22, 2016 at 09:45 PM
thanks
Post by: meat_eater on Mar 22, 2016 at 11:12 PM
hello, for onkyo receiver which has no small or large settings for the speakers, should i put my fronts at 40Khz? or full?
thanks
40 Khz is rather high, did you mean hz?
40 hz on the other hand is rather low, and with endtry to mid level AVRS, assuming you have floor standers, the current delivery might not be enough. If you have a sub, I suggest 80-100 hz, then cross your sub to do 80-120 hz down...
Post by: nomedigas1030 on Mar 22, 2016 at 11:22 PM
40 Khz is rather high, did you mean hz?
40 hz on the other hand is rather low, and with endtry to mid level AVRS, assuming you have floor standers, the current delivery might not be enough. If you have a sub, I suggest 80-100 hz, then cross your sub to do 80-120 hz down...
oww sorry I meant 40 hz, i have an onkyo txnr646 and the psb x2ts
thanks
Post by: meat_eater on Mar 22, 2016 at 11:51 PM
oww sorry I meant 40 hz, i have an onkyo txnr646 and the psb x2ts
thanks
If you have a subwoofer, try using 80 hz for your fronts, 80 for the center, 100 for the surrounds. Leave the lfe duties for the sub (80-120 hz).
Try this setting if it suits your taste, if not, feel free to experiment on what suits you best.
Cheers :)
Post by: nomedigas1030 on Mar 23, 2016 at 12:00 AM
If you have a subwoofer, try using 80 hz for your fronts, 80 for the center, 100 for the surrounds. Leave the lfe duties for the sub (80-120 hz).ok thank you for your response sir, as i dont have any idea about it at all. will try this.
Try this setting if it suits your taste, if not, feel free to experiment on what suits you best.
Cheers :)
thanks
Post by: sientobente on Mar 23, 2016 at 11:13 AM
^ time to save up on a QED then heheI actually would recommend Van Den Hul master rather than QED. Mas audible ang change when you compare lets say their entry level C5 vs a more expensive 3T.
Edit: Dali ko pala makulam... :-[
Post by: splerdu on Apr 22, 2016 at 05:07 PM
Dami pa naman synchrony sa mga shops. May Synch One pa sa Spectra. Last time I checked, meron Synch Two sa Watts.Spectra in Glorietta?
Post by: armymanhaha on Apr 23, 2016 at 02:24 AM
Spectra in Glorietta?
Yes sir. Sa tabi nung buffet place.
Post by: rexFi on May 07, 2016 at 11:30 AM
Post by: nomedigas1030 on May 17, 2016 at 08:43 PM
Post by: zram18 on May 18, 2016 at 08:46 AM
Post by: sientobente on May 18, 2016 at 10:57 PM
Hello ulit sa Speaker stand eg. Sabre wood vs metal. May factor ba sya sa sound quality? :) TIA
I think depende sa dispersion ng sound coming from the speaker, if it goes well beyond 180 degrees up, sound would interact differently on metal vs wood. But I think that is rare. The reason lang why Sabre wood stands are more expensive is because it offers less unwanted resonance because of it's weight plus the fact metal seems like a more solid build.
Post by: zram18 on May 19, 2016 at 08:28 AM
advantage ng metal pag may malikot na tsikiting or aso/pusa,mahirap itumba. metal stand is more on safety reasons and aesthetics.
Post by: rexFi on May 19, 2016 at 06:27 PM
masaya naman so far.
Post by: luis on Feb 17, 2017 at 03:04 PM
imagine t3 is too pricey at almost $4,000 dollars...
actually US$ 7,500 for the T3, pogi sya looks and soundwise.
;D
Post by: luis on Mar 14, 2017 at 02:51 PM
The Law of Diminishing Returns applies to audio, and the Imagine T2 Tower strikes me as being right around the point above which improvements begin to be more and more difficult to attain, and the additional cost may be considered disproportionately high.
http://www.stereophile.com/content/psb-imagine-t2-tower-loudspeaker-page-2#ypR0ZFdvYYGCPt41.99
Like their PSB predecessors, the T2s are exceptionally well- designed and represent extraordinary value at the price. Their performance in terms of their fundamental design criteria— in particular, neutral smooth response on- and off-axis—is so extraordinarily good that there is not that much obvious competition near the price range, if these are the things that count for you (as they are for me!).
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/psb-imagine-t2-loudspeaker/
;D