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pioneer,
magkano kuha mo sa 1802? card o cash?
Reposting for THX
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Hi all!
I'm not technically minded so the specs on these two model dont mean sh*t to me! =( I am having a hard time deciding which of these 2 revievers to buy. I know the AVR1803 is not released yet, so should I wait for the AVR1803 or just buy the AVR2802? How much different are the two models?
Please help!
Will
another cool feature that 1803 has is a firewire input.. it'll be used in the future for DVD-As and SACDs... it's able to carry more bandwidth than an optical cable.Just wish to clarify if the Denon AVR-1803 does include Firewire/iLink/IEEE1394a port.
another cool feature that 1803 has is a firewire input.. it'll be used in the future for DVD-As and SACDs... it's able to carry more bandwidth than an optical cable.Just wish to clarify if the Denon AVR-1803 does include Firewire/iLink/IEEE1394a port.
The product spec sheet doesnt indicate this.
What brand and model of speakers would be a good match for the AVR-1803? B&W, JBL, Klipsch, Infinity, Velodyne or Wharfedale?
Mel,
Magkano score mo sa denon 1803?
dex,
Yup..baka kasi mas mura sa rxv1200 eh..pag mas mahal pa sya sa rxv1200 ill go with the yammy else denon..habol ko kasi eh discrete 6.1 and higher wattage eh.. ehehehe ;D
Bought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k... ;D
Ok naman, considering na 1 pair of wharf 8.1s pa lang ang speakers ko.... nagiipon pa para mabuo ang setup...
One thing to consider... yung binebenta dito e walang multizone and surround back pre-out... compared to the US models na meron.
QuoteBought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k...
Sights and sounds where? shagrila?
One thing to consider... yung binebenta dito e walang multizone and surround back pre-out... compared to the US models na meron.
Bought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k... ;D
dex,
benta na natin equipment natin tapos sabay tayo bumili baka mas malaki ang discount ehehehe
uy sillyputty nakabili ka na pala ng 1803. sarap gamitin no? ako parang ayaw ko na munang pumasok sa office. hehehe :D
Bought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k... ;D(http://www.800stereo.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/avr1803.jpg)
Yup, saw this one too and pinag-iipunan ko na para makabili din. Good thing DD-EX and DTS -ES na. ;)
Post mo naman yung feedback mo dito. Thanks ;)
silly,
thanks bro ;D ;D mag iisip muna ako ehehehehe
Bought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k... ;D
Ok naman, considering na 1 pair of wharf 8.1s pa lang ang speakers ko.... nagiipon pa para mabuo ang setup...
One thing to consider... yung binebenta dito e walang multizone and surround back pre-out... compared to the US models na meron.
Mel,
Magkano score mo sa denon 1803?
Bought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k... ;D
Ok naman, considering na 1 pair of wharf 8.1s pa lang ang speakers ko.... nagiipon pa para mabuo ang setup...
One thing to consider... yung binebenta dito e walang multizone and surround back pre-out... compared to the US models na meron.
Sillyputty,
Im planning to get the 1803 also. Are you sure there is no multizone and surround back pre-out? Im after those features, if that the case, then I have to check out other brands. Anyone with an 1803, please confirm.
Levi
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levi- sorry to burst your bubble but it doesn't have any multizone and surround back pre-out. :-\
Mel,
Magkano score mo sa denon 1803?
P23k. Ayos na ayos! ;D
Bought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k... ;D
Ok naman, considering na 1 pair of wharf 8.1s pa lang ang speakers ko.... nagiipon pa para mabuo ang setup...
One thing to consider... yung binebenta dito e walang multizone and surround back pre-out... compared to the US models na meron.
Sillyputty,
Im planning to get the 1803 also. Are you sure there is no multizone and surround back pre-out? Im after those features, if that the case, then I have to check out other brands. Anyone with an 1803, please confirm.
Levi
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levi- sorry to burst your bubble but it doesn't have any multizone and surround back pre-out. :-\
simple multizone expeerience...
watch a 5.1 source in your main room and then a cd source on the other room(mono only)... mas ok sana kung stereo...
LEVI-
pm mo naman ako kung magkano quote sayo for the HK....
tnx.
magkano ba ang denon avr-2802 sa pilipinas? i just wanted to know if i got ripped off. here in melbourne most hi-end HT shops sells it around $1800-2000. pero nakabarat ako kaya nakuha ko ng $1400 = 42K @ $1=P30
Electronics depot had a sale for 2802 for 29T. One of our member was able to get a unit.
Electronics depot had a sale for 2802 for 29T. One of our member was able to get a unit.
Just went there yesterday..and its being sold for 40k. kelan nag sale?
Electronics depot had a sale for 2802 for 29T. One of our member was able to get a unit.
Just went there yesterday..and its being sold for 40k. kelan nag sale?
Medyo matagal na. You can send Thames a PM for more details
for those looking for an 1803...
hyperaudio is selling a 2mo used unit for 21k....
sayang, nakabili nko...nkasave sana ako ng mga 2-3k.
I got my brand new 1803 from Hyper this afternoon. I was able to hook it up but Im too sleepy to try it. I will give my comments tom.
levi,Bro i might see your yammy in assorted buy and sell one of this days he!!he!! laki ng price difference ng yam 1300 sa 1803 :(
congrats bro..any way pls post ur comments ocz im deciding kung 1803 or yammy 1300 ang kukunin ko. Thank u very much sir. :)
levi,Bro i might see your yammy in assorted buy and sell one of this days he!!he!! laki ng price difference ng yam 1300 sa 1803 :(
congrats bro..any way pls post ur comments ocz im deciding kung 1803 or yammy 1300 ang kukunin ko. Thank u very much sir. :)
levi,Bro i might see your yammy in assorted buy and sell one of this days he!!he!! laki ng price difference ng yam 1300 sa 1803 :(
congrats bro..any way pls post ur comments ocz im deciding kung 1803 or yammy 1300 ang kukunin ko. Thank u very much sir. :)
Dex,
ganun na nga yun eh..eto sakit ko eh..pag may nagustuhan ako eh hindi ako mapakali..pati sa bahay esep nang esep..pero kung maganda ang review ni levi sa 1803... tataas nang ilang points ang denon kesa yammy..imagine 10k ang diperensya.. 1 pair na rin ata nang mission speakers yun or konti na lang eh tatlong 8.1 na yun pag naka dts-es na ehehehe
putsa fafa jason pang harang mo yung speaker mo hehehe ayus yan...Bro,
lupit mo bro naka 6.1 ka na pag nagkataon hehehe ako 5.1 pa lang din malamang next year pa ako makapag upgrade ng 6.1 :( sa ngayon tyaga muna ako sa 1602 ko :( :'( :-\
hehehe babagay ba yun? kahit nde parehas ang center mo at fronts?
ang sarap sana mag upgrade ng avr kaso ala na talagang budget ipon na lang ako or yung kukunin ko yung paglulumaan ni jason na 1803 hehehe tutal after sometime upgrade ulit yan hehehe
yung series 2 na center cc6 s2 ata yung code nde ko masyadong kabisado eh hehehe...nung time kasi na bumili ako nun eh 50% sale kaya yun na ang binili koAh ok...Basta hahanap na lang ako dito sa pinas na babagay sa dm 303 mo he!!he!! parang totoo na ibebenta mo na sa akin hE!!he!! panay panay na ang plano ko..Sana nga di ma udlot
hey guys,
maybe im in the right place... meron ba kayong idea about the denon avc-3570? anyone auditioned this before? kasi im more into yamaha receivers, so zero-idea ako when it comes to denon. can u give me some important differences/advantages of denon compared to yamaha. thanks alot!
also, is this 3570 a new model or an old one? thanks again! :)
hey guys,
maybe im in the right place... meron ba kayong idea about the denon avc-3570? anyone auditioned this before? kasi im more into yamaha receivers, so zero-idea ako when it comes to denon. can u give me some important differences/advantages of denon compared to yamaha. thanks alot!
also, is this 3570 a new model or an old one? thanks again! :)
avc-3570- i think its either an old model or could be the euro version of a particular receiver. honestly, never seen this on the denon website.
as for the difference between the yamaha and denon receivers, try checking the comparison thread. what i understand though is that yamaha receivers are supposed to be very bright and ideal for movies, but not too great when it comes to music. the denon is more versatile. still it comes down to what speakers you will match your amp with though. but, this being a denon thread...of course denon's are better than yamys ;D
dex & courage.....sana kinuha nyo nalang yung 1803 ni hyperaudio. was a great price to miss out on ;D good luck on your upgrades bros
bunkieboy,
thanks 'pre!... mukhang euro version nga sya...
ano bang latest model ng denon ngayon? oo nga pala, nabanggit nung sales rep nung store na pinagtanungan ko na dalawang modes lang ata yung cinema ng denon? normal and....nakalimutan ko na ata yung isa. since i haven't tested yet the denon receivers, totoo ba 'to?
2803 is scheduled in the states at around may this year... di ko lang alam kung gaano katagal bago makarating dito.
1803 as the favorite...siguro dahil relatively mura...
kung maraming kayag bumili ng 2802/2803 e yun na yung binili ko, may preouts pa. :(
fafa jason bili lang ng bili dami mo namang pera eh!!!!!
^ doesn't the asian and us models come from the very same factory?
Nirvblakr,
I tried to test the 1803 yesterday and Im very satisfied with the performance. Its warm ( not bright ) which is one of the reason I upgraded from Yammie to Denon. It has more features than you would expect from this level, unfortunately the multiroom was not available. Its 10T cheaper than the Harman 5500 which I was eyeing but Im also happy with the Denon. It has more than enough power for my B&W 602 and made my Velodyne sound better. I have nothing against Yammie, its a great brand but I just want natural sound when watching movies. I dont want the tanks to sound like tin cans. Just my 2 cent
^ doesn't the asian and us models come from the very same factory?
anyway... err how can you expect pre outs on an 'entry lvel' av receiver?
it's even a surprise that 2802 has pre outs..
Nirvblakr,
I tried to test the 1803 yesterday and Im very satisfied with the performance. Its warm ( not bright ) which is one of the reason I upgraded from Yammie to Denon. It has more features than you would expect from this level, unfortunately the multiroom was not available. Its 10T cheaper than the Harman 5500 which I was eyeing but Im also happy with the Denon. It has more than enough power for my B&W 602 and made my Velodyne sound better. I have nothing against Yammie, its a great brand but I just want natural sound when watching movies. I dont want the tanks to sound like tin cans. Just my 2 cent
Meron bang preouts yung 1803?
Nirvblakr,
I tried to test the 1803 yesterday and Im very satisfied with the performance. Its warm ( not bright ) which is one of the reason I upgraded from Yammie to Denon. It has more features than you would expect from this level, unfortunately the multiroom was not available. Its 10T cheaper than the Harman 5500 which I was eyeing but Im also happy with the Denon. It has more than enough power for my B&W 602 and made my Velodyne sound better. I have nothing against Yammie, its a great brand but I just want natural sound when watching movies. I dont want the tanks to sound like tin cans. Just my 2 cent
Levi,
do u think it has enough power to drive my wharfdale 8.3? since we all know that the wharfs is very hard to drive.
what i've read read is that since last year that the 3803 and up will be made in the japan factories while the 2803 models and below are supposed to be made na in korea or taiwan. doesn't exactly matter since its the same denon quality put into each unit wherever they are made. i dont believe thought that the US versions are superior to the Asian models. Papayag ba ang mga japanese consumers na inferior ang mga toys nila?
i've heard the 1803 driving wharf 8.4 in shang.
pushed up to -10db(malakas na) without any distortion.
;)
I wonder how the amps in the denon handle biwiring with the wharfs? ;D
trying to scout for a good receiver during my lunchbreak and saw this denon 1603 for 16.5k at spectra park square. regular price at 22k+.
any feedback pls? thank you.
Hi courage!
I did not actually see the actual unit but the attendant I was talking with told me that they have 1803s. Too many customers inside when I arrived so I did not have the chance to ask questions. Actually my eyes were focused on the NAD T741 when I saw the 1603 model.
jason
wala ng tanong tanong bili na agad!!!!!!
Hi courage!
I did not actually see the actual unit but the attendant I was talking with told me that they have 1803s. Too many customers inside when I arrived so I did not have the chance to ask questions. Actually my eyes were focused on the NAD T741 when I saw the 1603 model.
Thanks bro. just in case mapadaan ka ulit..paki tanong naman price nang 1803. Thanks ;D
geez, mura pala diyan...sabagay ok na rin dahil mas mahal naman ang umuwi ng pinas. TY bro.magkano ba ang denon avr-2802 sa pilipinas? i just wanted to know if i got ripped off. here in melbourne most hi-end HT shops sells it around $1800-2000. pero nakabarat ako kaya nakuha ko ng $1400 = 42K @ $1=P30
38t dito sa manila
Haven't auditioned a denon receiver yet pero sabi very agressive yung sound especially on the surrounds. Is it good for playing music?hello, i'm using a denon avr-2802 and it's really good and the sound is very clean (movie & music). you just have to break in the receiver for a certain time and the more you use it, sounds even better. not only the surrounds, every channel sounds good and has good bass management. one thing i don't like is the small volume display on the front panel, big remote and DSP but the Stereo and 5/6 channel stereo are good. I even use 6channel stereo for karaoke. but if you like DSP's you may try other receivers. just my 2cents :)
Yrneh- I didn't know receivers need break-in? Akala ko speakers lang.Akala ko nga nuon e ganon nga. The first time I played with it parang na-disappoint ako dahil parang mahina at gusto kong ibalik at palitan ng yammy na lang dahil mga ibang kaibigan ko e naka-yammy. But then after, reading some reviews on the net and advise from some dealers here downunder and my brother Blitzkreig who also has a Denon (1602 or 1802 yata), I realized somehow it's true - based on my experience. Before I was watching movies at -10db ngayon naka -17 to 22db e ang lakas lakas na (my HT room is 4m x 5m x 2.5). Sabi ko nga e bakit pag nasa demo room ka e ang ganda at ang lakas, naalala ko syempre demo room ay laging gamit ang receiver, kumbaga sa basketball - batak na batak.
I am now in the process of matching speakers with my 1803. I just cant seem to have the right combi to suit my taste. :-\
Saang store kaya pinakamababa ang 1803? Might buy na kasi eh pag nabenta na yung 520 ko eh. Pls post nyo naman yung STore at yung person to talk to para pwede makahingi nang discount. Tenks guys
;D
courage- try mo Image Video Harrison. That's where I bought mine. Ask for Joel ;)
hey guys,
can u give me some "convincing" reasons why would I choose a DENON receiver over a yamaha... ???
kasi i used to own a DSP-AX2200, kaso binenta ko na sya (actually, yung buong HT setup). Just a few months ago, im 100% sure to buy (again) a YAMAHA receiver... maybe ax-2300, but ever since i've read this thread... parang konti-konti nagbabago yung plan ko about the yamaha receiver. yeah i agree na wala syang gaanong dating when it comes to music... but is that all? yun ba ang main difference nila? i think yamaha is really good in movies... and i want a 50/50 receiver (music/movies). do you think ax2300 of yamaha can give me this 50/50?
also, anong katumbas ng ax2300 sa mga models ng denon?
thanks alot!!! :)
minsanan na 'tong bili ko kasi... di na ko nag-iisip ng upgrade :) kya i-m-maximize ko na yung budget ko.
kaso kailangan ko munang malaman yung price nya sa PHP para makapag decide kung saan ako bibili. tsaka di ako sure kung anong model ang katumbas nito sa atin.
meron na bang denon 3803? kasi nagtanong ako kagabi, di alam nung sales rep yung model na yun. sabi ko baka international yun, sabi naman nya mga japanese model lang daw ang meron sila.
nakarinig ka na ba ng onkyo receiver? anong difference ng onkyo & denon?
I saw the specs of the denon 1603 it said 110 watts pero when i opened the pdf file i saw this in the power amplifier section 110 watts (6 ohms JEITA) 100 watts (8 ohms JEITA) and 70 watts (8 ohms, 20h-20khz, 0.08% THD) what does this mean? ??? help
I saw the specs of the denon 1603 it said 110 watts pero when i opened the pdf file i saw this in the power amplifier section 110 watts (6 ohms JEITA) 100 watts (8 ohms JEITA) and 70 watts (8 ohms, 20h-20khz, 0.08% THD) what does this mean? ??? help
Dracula,
I sent you a PM explaining the differences.
110 watts (6 ohms JEITA)
100 watts (8 ohms JEITA)
70 watts (8 ohms, 20h-20khz, 0.08% THD)
110 watts (6 ohms JEITA)
100 watts (8 ohms JEITA)
70 watts (8 ohms, 20h-20khz, 0.08% THD)
if JEITA is a Japan standard then they measure it differently ba? ???
kase 100W = 8 ohms JEITA then 70W nalang at 8 ohms, 20h-20khz, 0.08% THD
i am still kinda lost...
DNI,
The 100Watts rating by JEITA was most likely determined using only 1kHz, while the 70Watts rating was for the frequency range of 20Hz-20KHz.
Cheers.
Courage- Congrats on your new toy! As regards to settings, try to tinker with it based on your own preference.
Have fun! :D
denon 1803 or marantz sr4300-which one do you think would sound better paired with wharf/mission
levi- You could turn it off then turn it on again. If this fails, try to unplug it and turn it on again....hope it works.
Suggest naman po kayo:
As of now, my set-up is yamaha rxv430 with wharfe 8.3 front and wharfe center, tapos Yamaha NS7390 surround.
Gusto ko sana mag-upgrade to Denon 1803, then buy mission speakers, siguro m74 as my front, ano kaya magandang bitawan sa dalawang floorstanders ko, at ano magandang gawin kong surround? yung yamaha o wharfe?
darating tayo diyan...hinay-hinay lang.
medyo mahal ang mission eh.
pa pm din po kasi may sale dito si silly ny 1803 nya e... sana ok naman sya sa 8.4... but i want to audition the speakers of NIRV...meron ba pwede mag pa audition ng sets nila? NIRV?
matanong ko lang mga sir.... yung denon 1803 ba eh gold lang ang kulay...? i prefer black kasi ano kayang model ng denon ang kulay black and parehas sya ng capability ng 1803, and pa-post na rin nung estimated price para mapag-ipunan heheh... ;D wala kasing time mag-audition and magpunta sa mga A/V store eh.... :-\
pukx 8)
I read in Bulletin Today that 1803 is on sale for 21T plus.
I have been using the Denon 1803 for the past months and i just noticed that I forgot to turn off the Dynamic Compression. Now Im hearing my movies better and its making my B&W sing.
Welcome to the new owner of a Denon 1803. Firewired
Please post a review soon.
Make sure you are in DD mode, then press "Surround Parameter" then you will see Cinema EQ. Click again for Dynamic Compression. Just set it to off. You can set it to low, mid or hi also.
Have you seen the new Denon 1804?
Mukhang yung US version ng 1803 e binebenta dito as 1804... hehehehehe1804 is a new model. 1803 is 80Wx6 @ 8ohms and 1804 is 90Wx6 @8ohms
I set the Cinema EQ to off because I want a neutral sound. Try both then decide. Check the manual, it has explanations for the use of Cinema EQ.
ok thanks. will be tinkering more with my settings tonight ;Dano ba model ng denon receiver mo?
ano ba model ng denon receiver mo?
my baby is an avc-a11sr ;DWOW! receiver ko sa panaginip :)
here is the specs of each for you to compare bro
1603
Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro Logic II and DTS A/V Receiver • Dolby Pro Logic II, with Cinema and Music Modes • Dolby Digital and DTS decoding • 32 bit Analog Devices DSP processor • 5 equal power amplifier channels • 80 watts per channel into 8 ohms, <.08%THD, 20Hz - 20 kHz • 110-watts per channel into 6 ohms, 1kHz, <.7%THD • Discrete power amplifier stage • 5 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • Virtual Surround (for use with 2 speakers) • 24 bit, 96 kHz DACs • 24 bit, 96 kHz digital interface receiver • 24 bit, 96 kHz stereo PCM digital playback • Speaker A/B (front) selector • Front Panel A/V inputs, including Optical Digital with cover • 6 Channel External Input (for DVD-Audio) with wideband (100 kHz) frequency response • Addressable digital inputs, 2 optical, 1 coaxial • One Optical digital output for recording • Component, "S" & composite video switching • Banana plug compatible speaker terminals all channels • Subwoofer Pre-out, with Variable Cross-over points(80/100/120Hz) • All new Pre-programmed remote control features TV, VCR, DVD codes from other manufacturers • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 5.8"h x 16.4"d •
1803
Dolby Digital Surround EX, Dolby Pro Logic II & DTS ES Discrete 6.1 A/V Receiver • Dolby Digital, including Surround Ex decoding • Dolby Pro Logic II decoding with Cinema and Music Modes • DTS ES Discrete 6.1, Matrix 6.1 decoding • DTS Neo:6 Cinema & Music Surround decoding • Analog Devices Melody 32-bit Fixed Point DSP processor • 6 Channels equal power amplifier section • 80 watts per channel (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, <.08%THD) • 100 watts per channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz, <.7%THD) • Banana Plug Speaker Connections all channels (Except Speaker B) • Subwoofer Pre-out, with Variable Hi/Low Pass Cross-over points(80/100/120/150Hz) • 24 bit, 96 kHz high resolution DACs on all eight channels • Real 24 bit, 96 kHz Digital Interface Receiver • 2 sets component video inputs(30MHz), compatible with progressive DVD, DTV • 5 sets composite and "S" video inputs • 5.1 external wide bandwidth (100 kHz) input for future multi-channel formats (such as DVD-Audio) • 5/6 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • 4 assignable digital inputs (3 Optical, 1 Coaxial) • Optical digital output • Front Panel A/V Inputs, with S-Video and Optical Digital • Front Panel Speaker A/B Selector • 9 analog inputs including built-in AM/FM tuner • Multi-Zone stereo pre-amp level audio outputs, with Discrete Power on/off, Source selection • Assignable 6th Channel Amplifier, for Second Zone with Discrete Remote Volume Control • On-Screen Display • Remote I/O Ports • Glow-Key pre-programmed remote features codes from other manufacturers; Glow in the dark main function keys • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 6.7"h x 16.4"d
how much ba 1803 ngayon, wer to buy?
Bro,
Cheapest still is in Ambassador... 21k. Go with the 1803 if i were you. I was about to get this if i didn't get my hk 2550. :)
try mo si nelrey, 21.3 k yung denon 1803 (bnew). baka matwaran mo pa. bro for a difference of 300 bucks kay nelrey na ako, di pa ako kunsumido, aasikasuhin ka pa ng husto. ahehehehe
how much ba 1803 ngayon, wer to buy?
u might want to wait till novemer or december..im sure magssale pa ang denons even the othe av recivers..and may 1804 pa na irerelease dito..
i cant eat,cnt sleep, i nid 2 find wer can i buy DENON 1603 receiver??? pls help..coz dis amp suites my a/v needs, n most espcially it fits my budget. i nid it asap.tnxmatulog ka na at kumain at meron nito sa archi audio at sa sound room ..sale pa.. may pang dessert ka pa
i cant eat,cnt sleep, i nid 2 find wer can i buy DENON 1603 receiver??? pls help..coz dis amp suites my a/v needs, n most espcially it fits my budget. i nid it asap.tnx
How much is the current price for Denon AVR3802? Is 21kpesos good price for a 2nd hand mint condition unit?
How much is the current price for Denon AVR3802? Is 21kpesos good price for a 2nd hand mint condition unit?
Guys i am selling my denon avr-1803. Just call/txt me anyone interested. reason for selling is for upgrade to higher model of denon, thanks
Any comments regarding Mission and Denon setup?
wala pa nung 1804, 1803 pa lang.
meron nang 1804.. i saw some newly delivered stocks at soundroom podium last week.. the price is the same daw with the 1803 when the 1803 was new.. 30T.. but i think they still can lower it if you buy it cash.. ;D
Available na ba talaga ang AVR-1804 dito sa pinas? same specs ba sya ng US version?
wow 5803, that is my dream model for denon, how much is that sir doughn?
doughn,;D ;D
agree with you.
Denon still reigns in the high-end receiver category.
The AVC-AISR (my Dream AVR) has yet to be beaten.
Sa mid-price, of course, di sila ganon kasikat.
he is based in states, ive the chance to listen last year when i visit him , galing talaga and ang bigat pa 62 lbs. ganda pa ng remote. my receiver(denon 3802) looks miniature compare to his 5803. ;D ;D
doughn,
agree with you.
Denon still reigns in the high-end receiver category.
The AVC-AISR (my Dream AVR) has yet to be beaten.
Sa mid-price, of course, di sila ganon kasikat.
Hello guys, i just want to know what is the lowest price of Denon Receivers na may DD/DTS. I'm planning buy one before x-mas pag-may natira sa bonus. ;D
Thanks a lot.
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hello guys,
what do you think is the best brand of floorstander speakers to match with my denon 1803? preferably 30hz to 30khz freq response? thanks for any help.. :)
meron bang 1604 na binebenta sa mga shops dito sa pinas? 6.1 na kasi yun di ba? gusto ko sana malaman ang diff ng price between a 1604 and a 1803 - kung blow by blow alin ang masmaganda bilhin sa kanila - price wise. pareho naman kasi silang 6.1 any comments mga sir? :-\
Denon 1603: ~ 15K
Denon 1403: ~ 14K
hello guys,
can anyone hear the difference between direct mode and stereo mode, i.e. set the tone control to flat. cause i cant hear any difference in my 1803, unlike the virtual, theres a big difference between the direct and stereo. can i have your comments on this? ty po...
Guys,
need some advise, I purchased a DENON 1404 rcvr and mission m73+m7c1+m70 speakers. what cables will best suit these equipments. (mukhang mahirap kasing magaudition ng cables).
Also what sub will match these...
Thanks .
how much na ba yung 3804 ngayon?
how much naman kaya yung 3805? malamang nakakataok yung price.. :o
Grabe ganda ng 3805 pati yun spec mabigat!! :D :Dagree ako diyan! ;D kaso mabigat din ang presyo.. ;D
Guys.. what do you think about the Denon + JBL speakers combo? anybody bought this or have tried it yet? they usually come in promos and such.. my friend is thinking of buying this.
He'll probably get the newer models (1804, 1604 series..)
Guys.. what do you think about the Denon + JBL speakers combo? anybody bought this or have tried it yet? they usually come in promos and such.. my friend is thinking of buying this.i think its k as long as ur not going to place it in a big place
He'll probably get the newer models (1804, 1604 series..)
GreatBop,hey guys there is an exhibit of denon and jbl products outside eastwood cinema
May 3805 na!!! 65k sa Digital Dreams (so similar stores of JBL/HK/Infinity should have the same)... pati 2200 DVD player (46k) mayroon na rin! Bili bili na!
new hir guys.for the home theater and audio setup it is very good quite impressing performance
planing to replace my receiver w/ denon. is denon/nht setup alright? :D
after buying a DENON receiver ,try to call d DENON main ofc n try 2 chek weder u bought a bnew n original receivr, dey wil ask 4 ur serial no. 2 chek d authentication of d product!if you will notice the receiver, there should be a sticker on the back of the amp with 'warranty void if broken Beyond Innovation', then the plug is two round (black market is three plug), you'll fill up a warranty card...
after buying a DENON receiver ,try to call d DENON main ofc n try 2 chek weder u bought a bnew n original receivr, dey wil ask 4 ur serial no. 2 chek d authentication of d product!
He'll probably get the newer models (1804, 1604 series..)
DENON 3805 pegged at Php 56K at sights n sound EDSA shang. ;)sana kung ganyan kamura ang 3805 downunder, ansarap cgurong palitan ang 2802 ko ;D for now pagpantasyahan ko na lang muna ang 3805 :)
sana kung ganyan kamura ang 3805 downunder, ansarap cgurong palitan ang 2802 ko ;D for now pagpantasyahan ko na lang muna ang 3805 :)
ah, ok. tingnan ko muna baka ibagsak nila ang presyo ng 3803 :)
pare hindi sulit ang 3805, parang 3803 lang un na dinagdagan nalang,... one thing, the remote is touch screen but not better than the remote of a1srg
denon rules ;D ;D ;Dagree :)
just got myself a 3805 last tuesday sa shang. kya lang kainis hanggang ngayon di ko pa naikakabit. i have spade connectors kasi. yun dati kong onkyo 838 had the same problem so i just bought banana plugs and connected them to the spades. pero di mag fit ang same banana plugs sa connectors ng denon. mas maliit yata ang kelangan or maybe pin type.
what wire termination do you use on your denon? (wag lang bare stripped ends. sayang naman yung spade ng speaker wire hehehe)
Available na ba dito sa atin ang denon avr-2805?its not available in the market only the 3805 is available and i've seen it at spectra parksquare 1
Hi everyone!try this brod, on your remote, just press the input mode until the display is AUTO. :)
I'm new in this forum and would like to know more about the denon 2803 set-up. I recently purchased one from Sights n Sounds (SnS) Shang-Edsa to take advantage of its 0% interest promo that expires Aug31.
By following the manual, I've been able to play my dvds on dolby digital. However, when I try to play dts disks, no sound comes out. The guys at SnS said that I might have turn-off the dts out in my pioneer dvd player. I checked it and the dts out is ON.
I wonder if anyone has experienced this problem or can help me out?
Also, even if I'm able to play dvds on dolby digital mode, the dolby digital signal on the denon interface is not on either. What gives?
Thanks. :)
i'm thinking of buying denon 1604. any comments on 1604?1604 is good why not going for 1804 just few thousands difference than 1604
what speakers that best fit this avr?
thanks.
mga Sir I'm letti'n go of my Denon 1803 txtme (09189297019) or pm me your best offer,just upgraded to 3805
i'm thinking of buying denon 1604. any comments on 1604?
what speakers that best fit this avr?
thanks.
denon receivers are normally paired with mission speakers.
denon receivers are normally paired with mission speakers.
Does anyone here owns a Denon AVR 3805? A regular banana plug doesn't fit into the receivers speaker outputs coz the hole in the receiver's speaker output is to small for the banana plugs to go in. Anyway, for the meantime my speaker cables are directly connected to the speaker terminals of the receiver which is not really a problem pero syempre mas convinient at japorms pagka naka banana plugs lahat. ;Dyou could use a small philip to remove the small black thing at the back of the speaker output terminal
Could anyone here help me out were to sort out the especially sized banana plugs for this small sized hole of my receiver's speaker output. ???
you could use a small philip to remove the small black thing at the back of the speaker output terminal
if you're familiar with your speaker it is similar to the amp speaker output
Does anyone here owns a Denon AVR 3805? A regular banana plug doesn't fit into the receivers speaker outputs coz the hole in the receiver's speaker output is to small for the banana plugs to go in. Anyway, for the meantime my speaker cables are directly connected to the speaker terminals of the receiver which is not really a problem pero syempre mas convinient at japorms pagka naka banana plugs lahat. ;D
Could anyone here help me out were to sort out the especially sized banana plugs for this small sized hole of my receiver's speaker output. ???
If you don't often remove the cables from your receiver, a direct connection to the terminals tightly made using bare wire leads is often preferred by audiophiles as this eliminates any "middlemen" that could add unnecessary contact points. Even to the speakers. Banana plugs are nice if you have to A/B or change speakers and receivers often, like in AV stores. And using those expensive all-metal quantum plugs can be a hazard if you're not careful. I once removed a pair from my speakers, dangling together until they touched each other. And shorted my left channel. Good thing the fuse gave way first.
hi, you can remove the plastic plugs at the back of the reciever by using a screw driver or any pointed device like an icepick and pluck/pull them out manually.then you can use your speaker cables terminated with banana plugs.
hope this helps.good luck!
has anyone mentioned the new 5805 flagship receiver of denon?
it claims to be the world's first 10 equal channel surround receiver! this has to be the biggest receiver i've yet to see, it can rival the z9 of yamaha. it is capable of 9.1 channels delivering a whopping 170 watts per channel at 8 ohm loads. my gulay! it weighs 92 pounds! bali siguro likod mo dito. for the pics and features, you can check the denon website.
;D 8)
Is this a good amplifer? I just got it and haven't bought all my other peripherals yet.go for the klipsch sub
Just need to know if this amplifier is worth the money I am spending on the whole system which comprises of:
2 Wahrfedale 8.4
2 Wahrfedale WH-2 Surrounds
1 Wahrfedale WH-2 Center
Sony WEGA KV-AR34
Klipsch or Velodyne 12" (Not yet purchased)
Pioneer or ??? DVD Player (Not yet purchased)
I'll eventually change the Wharfedale's to something better but this will have to do for the time being. :)
i have this reciever for almost a month na, still sa kapal ng manual hindi ko pa masyadong nagagamit yung mga advanced features niya, yung pinaka basic lang... yung dvd player ko connected sa 1705 thru a coax cable, i have a 5.1 sat up.. wala lang ako ay yung center sa rear, watching dvd is fine.. kuntento na ako, pero bakit kapag ang source ko ay from tv (tv output to reciever) kapag naka pro logic ako hindi gumagana yung subwoofer ko, gumagana lang siya kung naka 5ch stereo, 2ch stereo at direct... bakit ganun? may kailangan pa po ba akong i-adjust, same as listening to an aux cd input nawawala yung sub or bass niya, correct me if i am wrong pero yun pa kaya ay dahil sa analog lang yung inputs ko? thanks po sa mga guru dito, i've learned a lot from pinoy dvd
saw this at the web
AVC-A1XV (http://www.denon.com.hk/product/consumer.detail.php?id=70)
Anyone using denon 1905? Hows the performance?
The 1905 series of denon is a midlevel reciever. It is actually a 2805 without the auto setup and room equalization and lower power rating. It does do a fine job on both HT and music. Initial impression ko is medyo bilog at malambot ang bass reproduction niya compared to my old rxv440. Malaking part yung cinema equalization niyang feature in reproduction of sound. Hindi siya nakakastress sa tenga mo.. ;D IMHO it is i think medyo magkalevel sila ng hk 230 series in terms of musicality pero more powerful siya. At it's price range bang for the buck siya considering 7.1 channels with preouts na. Of course medyo maganda ang naririnig ko in terms of after sales service niya( bago na ata ang distributor nito) of which during the past years nasira siya doon.
You have replaced your yammy 440 with denon 1905? Ganito din kasi ang plano kong ipalit.
Ayan! Finally I am an official DENON member! I recently upgraded my DVD Player and Amplifier from Pioneer-Onkyo to Denon-Denon
Specifically, the DVD 2910 and the AVR 3805. Got it from The Home Theater for 99K (40,500+58,500)
Humahataw sobra! Now I will change my 6.1 Mission M7i series to 7.1 na hehehehe
Anybody here use avr1905? Ayos ba sya? ano ba tlaga sya 80watts or 110? magkaiba specs sa denon singapore kesa sa usa.
From brochure:
Rated output *THD figures are power amp stage values.
Front: 80 W + 80 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08 % THD); 115 W + 115 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7 % THD)
Center: 80 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08 % THD); 115 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7 % THD)
Surround: 80 W + 80 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08 % THD); 115 W + 115 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7 % THD)
Surround Back: 80 W + 80 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08 % THD); 115 W + 115 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7 % THD)
Note:
Power Consumption is only 260 W.
pwdeng pa explain? ung dummy terms :) ??? ???
Anybody here use avr1905? Ayos ba sya? ano ba tlaga sya 80watts or 110? magkaiba specs sa denon singapore kesa sa usa.
new models: 3806 & 4306
http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/DenonAVR3806AVR4306receiver.php
Saw the Denon 3805 last night at Shangrila Edsa Mall. It looks so cool pala.
bro platinum! yung 1705 na ba lowest model?
guys review naman denon1705 vs marantz4500?
tnx!
bro Platinum tnx for the reply! so yung 1705 yung lowest model n 6.1. n yung 1905 yung lowest model for the 7.1ch tama po ba?
bro Platinum yup denon my list thats y hirap mamili! hehe
Mga Bosing just aquired recently a Denon 1800 w/ B&W 602 s3. oks na ba tong setup ko for my lovenest room? konting review naman dyan if someone using thier Denon amp w B&W. thanks mga henyong bosing. ;D
Bosing joey, malupit na yang setup mo! Kaya lang mas malupit siguro yong kasama mo sa lovenest! (joke lang) ;DDenon-B&W603 din ako bro. ;)
Sirs, OK ba sa audio yun 3805? Paired with my B&W 602 s3?Almost high-end recievers perform best on both HT and Music areas.
bro Platinum tnx for the reply! so yung 1705 yung lowest model n 6.1. n yung 1905 yung lowest model for the 7.1ch tama po ba?
magkano at anong shop meron nito? thanks ;Dsubukan mo kay Mr. Sonny Tuazon of Hometheater.... baka may stock pa siya.
mukhang black lang ang available color ??? ???
;)
magkano at anong shop meron nito? thanks ;D
mukhang black lang ang available color ??? ???
;)
Meron kay Sonny, sa The Home Theater just got a 2105 from him the other day.
anong color ba prefer mo bro?
ganda ng Titanium silver! :) sana meron ganitong kulay... sa 1905 at 1705
much better than how it looks sa picture! got a good deal from Sonny.
Give him a call. :)
sir magkano 2105? titanium silver yung 2105 mo? nagsearch ako, black at silver lang available na colors ng 1705
thanks ;D
may titanium color ang 1705?
Kawboy, congrats on your new 2105! :D
Anong speaker ang imamatch mo dito?
just saw a titanium colored 1705 yesterday at ambassador-shang! gwapo! ;D
have any of you guys auditioned a denon paired with the wharfedale diamonds. how's the sound? reviews naman sir! ;D
TIA
just saw a titanium colored 1705 yesterday at ambassador-shang! gwapo! ;D
have any of you guys auditioned a denon paired with the wharfedale diamonds. how's the sound? reviews naman sir! ;D
TIA
Bro Ronin, ask Sonny na lang the price, nice deal yan for sure.
yung silver, mukha siyang silver sa brochure, pero titanium silver ang hitsura nung actual unit.
yung tipong silver na may tint ng black na parang chrome... napipicture mo ba?
yun na siguro yung silver ng Denon. ask Sonny about it, kamo yung gaya nung binili ko. :)
I recently upgraded my reciever from a yammy / wharf diamond 8 series combo to denon /wharf combo. And to me it's the 2nd best path to go when upgrading my current setup being HK/wharf combo to be the 1st option path. Mahirap kasing mag upgrade ng buong system lalo na galing ka sa entry level speakers and recievers. In terms audio performance ok siya. Yung impression na ngongo daw yung tunog ng wharf sa ibang recievers can be easily compensated by pairing it with a more decent speaker wires and reciever's settings and speaker placement siyempre ...
Pero kung bago ka pa lang mag sesetup ng system mo, and prefer mo talaga yung denon brand.... If budget persist go for a Denon/ B&W combo setup. Kung tight ang budget mo u could try Denon/ Jammo combo setup also. Try to audition it @ Mr. Sonny Tuazon's shop (The Hometheater) he can provide u more options dahil he carries almost all speaker/ reciever brands. Yung Jammo E350 PLL 5 pcs hometheater kit ok tumunog. For me mas claro siyang tumunog kaysa sa diamonds. Bang for the buck siya considering 90db sensitivity ng speakers niya at entry level price range. :) :) :)
can anyone compare the pros and cons based on your experience between denon 1705 and marantz 4500?mas maganda po ba ang denon 1705?For me, all recievers are capable of performing better. It all depends on the proper match up of speakers. Not all entry level gears are compatible or sound good on entry level speakers and vise versa. :) :) And for a fact medyo kaunti lang kasing speaker brands ang available dito sa pinas na entry level and mid level ang budget. And kung titignan mo ang reviews nila sa international market, bihira lang ang nagsasabing pangit yung reciever nila. .. kasi marami silang choices of speakers or recievers for matchup. Medyo madalang kasi nagkakaroon ng local distributors yung mga highly aclaimed speakers sa ibang country coming from Canada, U.S. ,Autralia, U.K. etc....
1705 or HKAVR135 ???
(http://www.andrea-corr.org/photos/concert/ac_c_29.jpg)
Andrea Corr
hi! newbie lang po... magkano damage for 1906? pa pm naman at san meron available. thanks in advance!
congrats bro jeck!! welcome to the club! :)
ako rin very happy sa denon ko.
what color yung 1905 mo?
thanks sir.., actually 1906 yung akin and it's silver pero yung silver nya iba eh... darker than the silver of Yammy plus has a brushed finished-- looks more like platinum...
it continues to surprise me... meron siyamg radio text so once I auto programmed the stations, some stations that support the Radio Text function have their station names and tag lines on the display ;D
ay, 1906 nga pala... hehehe... right! I got mine from Sonny as well. ;)
I was advised to get the silver color... when it arrived, what a pleasant surprise! it was in titanium silver!
mas class yung look no!? I prefer it that way...
ah yah... I noticed yung Joey and Dream station lang ata ang may radio text, marquee pa nga ata yung sa joey e. :)
I just got my surrounds today so tomorrow matetest ko na yung auto set up mic nya... nagamit mo ba ito sir? accurate ba?
...pinag-iipunan ko pa yung surrounds at sub.
Does it upconvert composite and svideo to component? I mean the 1906. Thanks.
wow... buti ka pa! :) naka 3 channel setup lang ako e. center at fronts, pinag-iipunan ko pa yung surrounds at sub.
but I believe I read somewhere na accurate naman daw, tinest using the setup mic and tinest ulit using SPL meter. sakto daw. mukhang ikaw ang unang magte-test nito rito. hehehe... please update us sa result ng test mo. :)
Pareng kawboy! Ikaw, nag-iipon pa?! Parang hard to believe... ;D
Kamusta na? Kakainggit kayong naka-Denon. :-\
just mounted and connected the 9SRs today and all I can say is "Denon... where have you been all my life?" ;D Grabe man! I loaded a dvd I was very familiar with in terms of the audio experience -- Fast and the Furious Tricked Out Ed -- and ibang iba talaga... pero of course, iba na rin yung speakers ko so I cannot really attribute the improvement solely to Denon...
Hindi ko pa nagamit set up mic since according to the manual, silence is a must when using the auto set up function so I plan to do it in the wee hours of the morning when none of the usual day noises - cars, kids, phone, etc... - are present ;D
and when the rest of the neighbors are asleep....
I hope you live in a fully detached house... ;D
congrats jeck on your new toy. welcome to the denon owners family :)
Hi. I have a Denon AVR 1400 Receiver, I only used it for a month when my dad bought it (like 4 years ago ;D) coz i took the speakers that went with it. Any suggestions what should i do with it to fully maximize its capabilities? i know this is a very old unit.. gusto ko lang magamit bago tuluyang masira.. thanks
maybe you can post the specs of your AVR sir so we can give you specific suggestions... ;)
eto sir
Power Amplifier
Rated Output:
Front: 65W + 65W (8 / ohms, 20Hz ~ 20 kHZ with 0.05% T.H.D)
Center: 65W (8 / ohms, 20Hz ~ 20 kHZ with 0.05% T.H.D)
Surround: 65W + 65W (8 / ohms, 20Hz ~ 20 kHZ with 0.05% T.H.D)
Dyanamic Power: 85W x 2 ch (8 / ohms)
145W x 2 ch (4 / ohms)
175W x 2 ch (2 / ohms)
Output Terminals:
Front/Center: A or B or Bi-Wiring 6 to 16 / ohms
A + B
Surround: 6 to 16 / ohms
DTS na ba sir? Dolby Pro Logic?
Dolby Pro Logic :)
Hello po..
Just want to add my 2 day old Denon ARV 1906 (silver) to the Denon family owner..
Sa mga Guro kakailanganin ko po ng malaki tulong nyo..excited pa po masyado kaya
di ko pa masyadong ginagalaw..
thanks..
you can use it primarily for audio... just hook up a nice CDP and speakers and you are set IMHO... ;)
congratulations sir... pareho tayo ng receiver... ayos yan once you have it set up
Whats CDP? any suggestions on what kind of speakers and how many?
Thanks sir and congrats din..buti nalang may kaparehas ako at Guro pa..! ;) ;) Need your help sir..
sa ngayon kasi ala pa akong mga connectors ( cables )na maganda.Pede ka bang recomend sakin
para mag ka idea naman ako sa pag iiponan ko...thanks :) :)
Guru? Hehehe wala yan... ibig lang sabihin nya mahilig akong mag-post ;D
Not really sure what you mean by connectors/cables... speaker cables ba or interconnects? Really depends on how much you are willing to spend... there are budget speaker cables available at P60 to P80 per meter and meron namang premium brands which go for thousands for a few meters of cable... just make sure you get 14 guage oxygen free cables... for the surrounds kung medyo mahaba-haba na cables kailangan mo like 8 meters or longer, get the 12 guage... kuha ka rin ng banana plugs
Kung interconnects, same thing, may budget brands like AudioPro which sell for a few hundred pesos and are available at True Value and ACE and meron ding mga premium brands like Monster, XLO, Acoustic Research etc... in the thousands price range...
;D ;D ;D
Last suggestion, when you set up your AVR, make use of the Auto Set Up function... ayos na ayos yan...
congrats AVetc! mae-enjoy mo yan for sure. ;)
sakto yan, si jeck ang orig na autosetup guru, siya ata una nagtry nun dito e. sa pagkakaalam ko. :D
ayos kasi talaga yung Auto Setup... very convenient to use plus calibrated pa lahat ng speakers...
OT: hey kawboy, saw your e-mail address... taga-svi ka pala...kilala mo yata si paolorenzo... came from svi connect kasi...
yah, taga svi ako dati. hahaha, 2 years na akong retired duon. di ko lang ata na-update profile ko.
yup, sikat yang si paolo, ala atang di nakakakilala riyan. :D
Langya kayong dalawa... Nananahimik lang ako ha... :-X Hehehe. Fafa, retarded ka na pala? Este wala ka na sa minamahal nating employer?
Para di rin ako OT, inggit talaga ako sa mga naka-Denon. Isip ko pa palitan 657 ko with 1906 (US version)... Mahal lang kasi eh. :o
Langya kayong dalawa... Nananahimik lang ako ha... :-X Hehehe. Fafa, retarded ka na pala? Este wala ka na sa minamahal nating employer?
Para di rin ako OT, inggit talaga ako sa mga naka-Denon. Isip ko pa palitan 657 ko with 1906 (US version)... Mahal lang kasi eh. :o
Sir Jeckjeck,
Anong pwedeng recomend mong sorround speaker sakin...im using wharfs 8.3 and a diamond center
sa ngayon i uses my old mini comp.'s speaker as sorruond..meron bang malaking difference or improvement when it comes to sound if i have my sorround speaker? Does the exciment on movies
increases if ill have my back sorround? :) :)
AVetc, update us pag na-try mo na auto setup. :)Quote
sir, try mo yung Diamond 8 DFS.. merong for sale ngayon sa Marketplace... subukan mo rin WH2 dipoles... oo, mas gaganda sound mo kapag surround speakers gamit mo especially pag dipole
pao... specs of my Denon AVR-1906 purchased from SGT Home Theater are exactly the same as those posted in US sites... bili ka na kay SGT... benta mo na yang Yammy mo or try mo trade sa kanya...
may ibang version version pa ba Denon? available ba yun dito? ano difference? :)
Dear Mr. xxxxxxxx,
Thanks for your inquiry .
There are 2 diferences in the features of AVR-2105 sold to USA , Europe and Asia .
USA model :
1) allow video conversion to component
2) video section bandwith to 100MHz
Europe and Asia model :
1) Not allow video conversion to component
2) video section bandwith to 30MHz
The differneces is due to the market demend and sells cost .
Best regards
DENON
Nadagdagan na ang requirements ko eh... Aside from the component video up conversion, I need an AVR with Zone1/2. Para puwede ko na i-output yung stereo sounds sa Patio (otherwise, I will need to separate audio components there). Yung asian model naman ng 657 ay walang Zones (US version meron).
Sa Denon naman, they have Zones, but you will have to give up your surround back speakers. So 5.1 na lang ang main HT room mo, and channels 6&7 will be Zone2. Sayang lang. Sana 7.1 pa rin yung main room, and separate channels for Zone2. So, the hunt continues...
Congrats pala Fafa Kawboy! 8) Kaya pala puro sideline ka ng Samsung phones... Mahal talaga gatas ngayon. :-[
Nadagdagan na ang requirements ko eh... Aside from the component video up conversion, I need an AVR with Zone1/2. Para puwede ko na i-output yung stereo sounds sa Patio (otherwise, I will need to separate audio components there). Yung asian model naman ng 657 ay walang Zones (US version meron).Check if there is a pre out for zone 2. Just use a separate amp for zone 2 so no need to use 6th and 7th channel.
Sa Denon naman, they have Zones, but you will have to give up your surround back speakers. So 5.1 na lang ang main HT room mo, and channels 6&7 will be Zone2. Sayang lang. Sana 7.1 pa rin yung main room, and separate channels for Zone2. So, the hunt continues...
Congrats pala Fafa Kawboy! 8) Kaya pala puro sideline ka ng Samsung phones... Mahal talaga gatas ngayon. :-[
1905 or 1906 cost 20k cash here in cebu...
sanction214,
magkano 2805, 2106 at 1906 jan sa cebu? pwede ba jan bili? And MA-MAHAL kasi d2 Manila!
jeckjeck and ricky,
Thanks for your reply, regarding sa 3803 sa buy and sell, hindi ba magkalayo price range ng 3803 and 1906? I will also try to pm sonny of home theater. Thanks for your help!
My current set-up is in 5.1. Have an Onkyo 494, sony ns300 and diamond 8 speakers. The 494 seems to be not bringing out the best of my speakers. Am keen on looking for a receiver with more power punch. What can you recomend? Preferably denon 1706 and marantz 5600? OK ba sila? Am more into music than ht.
Ano set-up nyo? Pa-post naman sound ng equipment nyo, tnx again guys!
sanction214,
magkano 2805, 2106 at 1906 jan sa cebu? pwede ba jan bili? And MA-MAHAL kasi d2 Manila!
just found out na di pla babagay sa jbl ko ang 1906 kasi its rated at 135 watts per channel...the speaker manufacturer says "maximun recommended amp is 100W!"
Ive just auditioned the Denon 2105 at Sights and Sounds at Shangrilla. They sell this for 27,500. They have paired this up with a Paradigm Titan which is priced at 13k per pair. The sounds is good for me since swabe nga sa pandinig. The bass of the fronts of these bookshelves alone are great to hear, considering they are just bookshelves.
Im just new to this so I want your opinions. Is this receiver good for the price? Or should I consider HK Instead? Should I settle for other speakers? My budget for speakers is 20k. Should I settle for 2nd hand of speakers in the buy n sell section? For that budget of 20k for speakers, what would you recommend? You can recommend either floor stander or bookshelf. As of now im gonna place this in a 2.5 meter x 3.5 meter room. Dont worry because im going to be transfering houses in about 2 years so no need to worry If you recommend floorstanders for the size of my room now.
Sa mga nababasa ko kasi mas madaming naka Monitor Audio kesa sa Paradigm. How about Wharf 9 floorstanders ? Mas ok ba Wharf kesa sa Paradigm for Denon's ?
Sorry for all the questions kasi I want to make sure that I have all the info before I take the plunge in getting Denon.
Im going to use this for 50% Audio and 50% HT.
You're essentially using a passive sub driven by your Konzert power amp and XO'd by your receiver's LFE out. That's as straightforward a bi-amping as it gets.
magandang araw mga audiophiles... medyo sikat ata ang denon sa pinoydvd forum.. maganda ba talaga sound quality nya as compared sa ibang receivers like marantz, yamaha and pioneer? nag cacanvas kasi ako for my HT project.. pang bedroom lang.. maarte kasi hearing ko gusto ko quality sound talaga.. pero i need a medyo mura na receiver.. na start ko na bumili speakers. gale 3030 floorstanding cya and bibilhin ko next week yung gale 3060B pang sorround.. maganda kasi sound nya nung kinabit nung nag demo sakin sa marantz sr 5600.. sa ngaun naka kabit ung speakers ko sa amplifier ganda rin sound pero medyo bitin lang kasi hindi cya sorround.. 2 channels lang kasi.. plan ko bilhin marantz 4600 18k lang kasi dito sa magic appliance center.. mas mura kaya sa manila? anu paba mga brand and model na pwede ko consider and san me pwede mag punta na stores para maraming choices kasi kung dito sa province hindi uso ang mga HT.. wala masyado nagbebenta... budget ko for the receiver less than 20k basta gud sound quality... and anu features na meron cya pag ganun lang budget ko
SRP ng denon 3805? ???
Wow, ang Lufet ng balak ni Deo! Alam ko nasa 55k yan. Mag Rotel power amp ka na lang. ;)
i have already denon3806. ndi ko pa rin natetest. gift lang ng isang friend ko sa US. anyone interested to buy it? just PM me. 93K less 20K
In my dreams! hehehe! So, mas ok ba mag dagdag ng rotel power amp kesa mag upgrade ng Receiver? ???
Si myki diba rotel 1075 + marantz sr5500 dati? hmm,..teka, tama na ang day dreaming ko :-[ hehehe!!!
go for it deo, kayang kaya mo yan......... 8)
Mga Sir,
Bagay ba Denon sa Mission speakers?
Thanks!
nerveblocker,
magkano kuha kay sonny ng 1706?
pwede na, JT...pero try mo pa rin tawaran...thanks! :D
jt,
steal iyang deal na iyan, for 16k at denon 1906 pa na last year model lang. aside from that maganda ang naging review niyan from the international press including what hi-fi? and hi-fi choice.
pray din nga ako na sana mayroon pang ganyan!
ano speaker partner mo with the 1906?
happy listening! ;)
sir matzter, ricky, munskie ask ko lang po kung anong model ng B&W ang ok sa denon avr? ano po marerecomend nila? ok po ba 604+602+lcr? sir patulong po kung anong magandang set up for my HT... tnx po.
sir matzter, ricky, munskie ask ko lang po kung anong model ng B&W ang ok sa denon avr? ano po marerecomend nila? ok po ba 604+602+lcr? sir patulong po kung anong magandang set up for my HT... tnx po.
sir tnx po sa advice. nakita ko na ung jbl na cnasabi mo srp nya 76K??? ung napakingan ko lang ung aelite series ng AE kaso gawa na sya sa malaysia... dami nagsasabi ok daw mission pero ndi ko kabisado mga models ng maganda for HT and naririnig ko ala na daw importation at service center ng mission dto sa pinas.
For your Denons, B&W or Missions are OK. I have heard B&W w/ Denon and ok naman. And sabi ni munskie, he tried Missions with his Denon 3805 amp, ok din naman daw. For me, prefer lang ng personal listening taste, aesthetic taste and budget taste :D yung missions.
Yeah, kung di cguro ako nag ambisyon nung time na nag-upgrade ako, all I could have upgraded is my receiver and the sub. My mission 77 series came alive when I powered them with the Denon 3805. My Onkyo receiver I use for the missions is only rated at 70wpc while 3805 is 120wpc (but we all know thats far from actual results). That diffrence in power greatly enhanced the Missions performance. But again, I have no regrets getting the B&Ws....they're great performing too, lalo na kung powered by external amps. Follow matts advice in selection criteria....aesthetic, budget, and judgment sa audition... ;D ;D
pwede na, JT...pero try mo pa rin tawaran...thanks! :D
Bro,
Got the 1906 yesterday and yep its like bnew condition. Even smells like one... hehehe. BTW. I might change my Marantz SR4500 also, baka interesado ka? Almost 1yr yun pero like bnew din.
sir munskie, ricky & matzter.... available na raw denon dvd 2930cl sa states... may friend ako nagwowork sa best buys but my problem alang maguuwi dto sa pinas... baka may kilala kayo uuwi frm washington next month....bro, if u have the dough to go for that denon player, I suggest mag Toshiba HD DVD ka na lang. that 2930CI is $849 sa denon website, whereas the HD DVD player is $499. naka HD DVD kana and its a very good upsampling dvd player too (backward compatible sya). It has very good reviews as a upsampling dvd player. One reviewer even saying its the best upsampling dvd player he used. They are selling the Toshiba HD-A1 here at 35K... :) :)
malaki ba discount? may friend ako naghahanap e :)
ano po ma recommend good speakers for 3806? tnx
tnx pare.
ano po ma recommend good speakers for 3806? tnx
mga sir question anu pong denon avr pwd dto sa speaker ko
1set jbl 6.1 system scs188
http://www.lumarc.pl/jbl-scs-188-p-716.html
paki indicate n din kung magkanu at san po pwd bilhin
tnx
i was wondering if somebody here could help me out how to figure out the Denon 1705 and paired with JBL scs type speakers...kinda rough on the edges with HT..still getting to know...
here it goes...i've shifted all the posibilities on which DSP the 1705 has in playing DVD movies...DSP>Mono>Rock>Jazz>Video Game>Matrix...still i dont like the feel of the sound...i tried pressing "Standard" on the remote and the LCD Display says> Dolby Digital, then on... i kinda like the surround effect...and LFE's although i was really puzzled as to why the movie dialogue reproduced in the center speaker is kinda stifled sounding or cannot be voiced out...parang sinasakal kumbaga and nagsasalita..errr. help anyone... ???
gee thanks sir! i will check sa system set-up and crank up the volume for the center...do i have to change the D.Comp to HIGH?
I suggest you use an SPL meter for calibration. Ideally, the output level for all speakers should be the same using a test tone. Better if you have calibration discs such as Digital Video Essentials. From my experience, Dolby Digital and DTS settings have slight difference in output. You will be surprised with how it sounds when its properly calibrated. Welcome to the world of HT! ;D For temporary solution, (mano mano... ) try playing test tones and listen to the output level of each speaker. Using your ears, make sure volume level is the same for each speaker. Adjust if necessary.
As for the D.COMP setting, this applies only for discs with Dolby Digital soundtracks. D.COMP is designed for night viewing. It reduces the loud sound effects and focuses on the vocals para hindi masyado nakakaistorbo sa kapitbahay when you watch movies like star wars, saving private ryan and the like. For normal viewing, turn D.COMP off. It really depends on how you want to experience movies on your Home Theater.
gee thanks sir! i will check sa system set-up and crank up the volume for the center...do i have to change the D.Comp to HIGH?
mga denon gurus,
pwede na kaya ang denon 1907 (on sale ngayon) sa wharfe evo30, center, evo10 & evo8 speakers ko? 7.x lang muna plano ko at idagdag ko nalang ang .1 pag may pera na. the 1907 power ratings are all in 8 ohms. can this avr capable of powering all 7 speakers at 6 ohm at the same time without any heating/shutdown issues? pardon me if this has been answered before. i'll do my homework by reading back the pages.
thanks
mga denon gurus,
pwede na kaya ang denon 1907 (on sale ngayon) sa wharfe evo30, center, evo10 & evo8 speakers ko? 7.x lang muna plano ko at idagdag ko nalang ang .1 pag may pera na. the 1907 power ratings are all in 8 ohms. can this avr capable of powering all 7 speakers at 6 ohm at the same time without any heating/shutdown issues? pardon me if this has been answered before. i'll do my homework by reading back the pages.
thanks
Denon's nominal impedance is 6 ohms. don't connect another set of speakers on A & B posts if it has. It can now serve for HT purpose, Be careful not to drive very hard, if you set the fronts to Large w/o sub. :o
Try defeating your auto setup settings, maybe then you can crank it up.
It maybe that the receiver limits the volume so that the amp won't clip.
Anyway, is the -20.5dB recording classical?
Speaking of calibration mic...pano nyo po ba ginawa? Kasi nakalagay sa manual ng Denon that I you need to have a tripod. Kailangan ko ba tanggalin muna lahat ng gamit ko sa room bago ko'to gawin?
Whoa, definitely not. Your room acoustics also depend on your furniture arrangement. Just calibrate w/ your normal furniture arrangement and place the mike where you usually sit. During calibration, I put my mike on top of the couch where I lean my head.
Whoa, definitely not. Your room acoustics also depend on your furniture arrangement. Just calibrate w/ your normal furniture arrangement and place the mike where you usually sit. During calibration, I put my mike on top of the couch where I lean my head.
Is it really recommended to do calibration?
When I watch DVD movies, usually between -15 to -5 db ang range ko. OK lang naman ito. Max ng Denon 1907 is +18 DB, so marami ka pang extra volume power.
The problem with this sir is eventhough lakasan mo yung volume natatabunan pa rin sya ng fronts kaya you should really adjust your center.
Ganun na nga po ang ginagawa ko ngayon. :) I also set my player (DV600) dialogue to low or medium. Do you think mic calibration will do the trick?
For speaker configuration, why don't you try setting the FRONT speaker to "LARGE" and Subwoofer mode to LFE+Main.
Then try to play your discs and see if you like it better. I think kasi that FRONTs should always be set to "LARGE" to get better sound from your floorstanders.
Hi Eksi!
Sorry do not have upsclaing DVD player yet:( Next on the agenda. Maybe ask for feedback from those who have the DV 400?
Cheers!
@ matzter
thanks for the info... i will return back to my previous setting (i.e. all speakers set to small)... i don't want my Denon burden to much task... anyway i'm happy with it naman before...
ganun siguro talaga... may mga pros and cons and different settings... its up to us users kung ano ang isa-sacrifice... hehehe
follow up question lang po... if speakers are set to small... which subwoofer set-up is the most preferrable, LFE (normal) or main+LFE?
as i understand from the manual, in LFE - all the low frequency from speakers set to small will be diverted to the subwoofer, while in main+LFE - all low frequency from speakers set to large speakers will be played in subwoofer too, therefore, there will be no difference at all between these two setting when all the speakers will be set to small. your comments po....
I have a Denon 1705 & a JBL satellite speaker system in my bedroom. Even if I crank it up (0db), it just cant fill my room (w/c is bigger than my main HT room) with sound & gets distorted already at some point. All the while I thought it was because of the size limitation of the speakers.
During the past few days (holidays), I had the time to test a sample 5 x100w @ 4ohm (all channels driven) integrated power amp, using the 5.1 analog outs of my Pioneer DV-600 as decoder. The SQ was a mile ahead and my room was so filled with (undistorted) sound! Some things are beyond subjectivity and this is one of those. the difference was way too obvious.
Still busy tweaking my AVR2808, sa dami ng pwedeng gawin sa AVR, nalilito na ako minsan ;D
Hi Matzer,
The amp you used is 5x100w @ 4ohms --- hindi ba that is only around 5x75w @6-8 ohms? So that should roughly just be the same capacity as your Denon 1705 na 5x75w @8 ohms so it should just be the same power?
Also, the 1907 we are using is more powerful than the 1705. It is rated at 5x85w at 8 ohms or roughly 170w @ 4 ohms.
I also got myself the AVR2808 last Christmas. I still can't figure out how to maximize the unit because of too many functions. I came from an Onkyo TXSV838.. One of the first Dolby Digital receivers around 15 years old. hehehe.
Trackers888, once na-master mo na baka puwede magpa tutor sayo ng lahat ng functions. Thanks.
Question for anyone willing to help.
Having difficulty properly calibrating my system. Kindly check below settings and let me know if correct.
AVR 2808
Monitor Audio - BR2 fronts and BRLCR for center
Dai Ichi satellites for rear
Subs - Atlantic Technology T70PBM
Room size - 12 square meters
Distance of left, center, and right speaker from listening area - approx. 10 feet
Sound Level - LEFT and RIGHT speaker = +3db
Center speaker = +5db
Surrounds = 0db
Pioneer DVD383 - Dialogue set to MEDIUM (is this necessary if i want dialogues to be more audible?)
It is a bedroon with the bed against the rear wall.
Please let me know what I need to improve on. I have a strong feeling there is a huge room for improvement if calibration is properly done. I only used the Audessey once. Parang mali mali lumabas sa auto calibration.
Thanks!
Are my settings correct?
It's impossible for anyone to say that your settings are correct. There are just too many variables.
Firstly, you should ensure that your speakers are optimally positioned. There are many articles which explain this. Some of the best articles can be found in the Audiholics website.
Once the speakers are properly positioned, you need to do the bass management. I would suggest that you designate all speakers as small. Crossovers will automatically be set at 80 hz.
Next, let Audyssey do its job. However, you need to know how to position the mike positions while using Audyssey. There is a thread at AVS Forum which provides a lot of tips on how to do this. There is also a very good FAQ at the Audyssey website. I would say that for your room, just make sure that you don't put the mikes too close to the wall. Position the mikes around the main listening position, but not too near the wall.
Regarding more audible dialogue, I would trust the Denon more than the Pio player. Just leave the Audyssey settings as is.
I hope this helps. Good luck!
Thanks Streetsmart! IL try your suggestions later tonight.
One more thing, would you trust the Audyssey settings more than an SPL meter to calibrate your system?
I would trust Audyssey more, as long as you set it up correctly. I don't use my SPL meter anymore.
You will notice that even the actual distances from speaker to main listening position may be different from what Audyssyey indicates. Lalo na ang subwoofer. Dapat sundan mo pa rin ang Audyssey kasi may reason sya for that difference. Exception lang is if the difference is very big (like 1 foot vs. 10 feet) - in that case, ulitin mo ang Audyssey.
Audyssey is a very sophisticated system. It's not just the volume levels that it adjusts. It also equalizes the system. Makikita mo that there is a 9-band parametric equalizer sa Denon and that is adjusted according to the Audyssey calculation. Actually, the equalization by Audyssey is even more than 9 bands! Ang nakikita mo lang is what the Denon can show, but the reality is that Audyssey does a lot finer equalization than just 9 bands.
By the way, make sure that you use a tripod when doing the Audyssey calibration. It doesn't work properly without a tripod.
Good luck! :)
Wow, im impressed! You really know what you are talking about.
I was even planning on getting a Radio Shack SPL meter this week.
Anyhow, last few questions lang if I may, my set up is in my bedroom since I do not have the luxury of having a separate A/V room. This means that my viewing/listening position is on the bed with my head leaning against the wall. In front of me around 10 feet away are the speakers and plasma. My rear speakers are satellites from Dai Ichi which are around 3 feet away.
Dikit sa wall ang listening area ko.
1. Won't this cause an incorrect reading sa Audyssey since it is mentioned in the manual that the mic should be placed away from the wall?
2. Listening area is primarily on a queen size bed. Do I still need to make 6 listening positions when I only use 3 positions?
Thanks for the help!
Lance
Problema nga ang set-up mo. Audyssey will not work well kung dikit sa wall ang mike.
You will need to experiment. Personally, I would choose a "phantom" main listening position 3 feet from the wall and then do the calibration from there.
You will still need to do 6 mike positions. Kahit tabi lang and paligid ng 1st position. The measurement is more accurate with more mike positions. The 2808 can go up to 8 positions.
I agree with you. Ilalayo ko nalang yung set up microphone away from the wall when I calibrate.
Thanks a lot for the help Streetsmart!
During my lunch break, I used the Audyssey mic to re-calibrate my system.
I didn't follow all the settings like the front to LARGE since I am only using BR2 bookshelf speakers. I did some minor tweaking on the sound level adjustments, crossover, distance, etc. Noticed that the CENTER channel volume was way too low. Had to increase it by +3db. For the rest, it was ok.
Another question gurus, do I use the Audyssey equalizer? Do I use Audessey flat? Or I DO NOT USE the equalizer at all? What's the best choice?
Thanks!
Sir nag Audyssey calibration din ako pero I haven't change anything after the test. So far kuntento naman ako sa result and I didn't use or adjust the equalizer. Audyssey did change it for me. If for any reason hindi na met ang gusto mo, maybe something wrong during the test or hindi lang siguro ako marunong makinig ng tama :D :D :D
My components are plugged into an AVR so I hoped that the power spike was absorbed by the AVR.
I hope someone can help me out ???. I encountered a problem with my Denon AVR last month and I would like to know if the experts can give me suggestions on what to do.
guys,
tanong lang po regarding sa settings using audyssey.
i've ran the auto test 3 times already and observed that the subwoofer attenuation is always set to -4.5db. ganito ba ang result sa test nyo? i always crank up the sub settings to +8 db manually after the test kasi yung orig setting ng audyssey ay hindi marinig ang LFE. sa latest test ko kanina, ang fronts ay naka set sa LARGE na. i tried switching between LARGE and SMALL but i've only heard minimal difference between the two.
below is my setup for your reference:
denon 2308
wharfedale evo30
wharfedale evo center
wharfedale evo10
dtx14.5 sub
25 sq mtr room
thanks :)
After finishing the Audyssey set up, set the subwoofer setting to 0 on the receiver. Manually set the volume of your subs to 12 o'clock. Depending on taste or preference you can either increase volume or decrease volume using a dvd with good LFE which you are familiar with. I suggest you set crossover to 80Hz on the receiver and set the crossover on the sub a bit below 80Hz...say 70Hz.
As for fronts, use small even if you are using floorstanders. Set the crossover to 60Hz and 80Hz on your centers. Try to experiment with your settings until you get the sound you like best. Good luck.
thanks sa tip sir. tanong ko lang po sa mga may audyssey kung ganun ba rin ang calculated attenuation ng SUB after the test. di talaga tama ang -4.5db kasi wala ng marinig na LFE. my room is 25 sq mtr so dapat malakas ang setting ng sub. the rest of the speaker setup ay tama naman especially dun sa speaker distance, spot on talaga ang audyssey. btw, i did the test at midnight at walang outside noise na marinig sa tv room.
thanks sa tip sir. tanong ko lang po sa mga may audyssey kung ganun ba rin ang calculated attenuation ng SUB after the test. di talaga tama ang -4.5db kasi wala ng marinig na LFE. my room is 25 sq mtr so dapat malakas ang setting ng sub. the rest of the speaker setup ay tama naman especially dun sa speaker distance, spot on talaga ang audyssey. btw, i did the test at midnight at walang outside noise na marinig sa tv room.
How many locations do you use when you do the Audyssey set-up? Do you use a tripod or do you just hold the mic? Are the locations you select for the Audyssey set-up close to walls?
Typically, if you locate the mic too close to a wall, the mic reads a very strong bass and so it will lower the level of the sub.
In any case, there is no harm to increase the level of the sub after doing the Audyssey set-up.
hi streetsmart & lancito,
i tested 6 locations with the mic on a tripod. everything was followed from the manual. in fact i put the mic/tripod on the front part of the sofa so it will be away from the backrest.
what settings did u guys changed on the sub after the auto-test? 0db to me is still too low. my sub volume setting is at 12 o'clock and the crossover set to max as the AVR's sub crossover is set at 80hz. ok lang ba to? is it better to use the crossover of the 2308 rather than the DTX4.15's crossover? i haven't tried to increase the AVR x-over setting and control from the sub though. masubukan nga.
Two last points on the mic:
1) Make sure that the mic is at least 2 inches higher than the backrest of your sofa.
2) Don't select a mic position which is close to a wall.
If you can disable the crossover of the sub, do so. Otherwise, set the low-pass filter to the highest - 120 hz. Do the same with the AVR - low-pass filter to 120 hz.
Aside from increasing the gain of the sub, you can also use the LFE+Main option of the Denon, wherein the sub outputs not only the LFE channel but also the bass frequencies of the other channels. That should increase the overall bass volume, if that is what you wish.
By the way, it is pretty useless for us to compare settings on the sub because we have different subs and AVR's and rooms. Actually, Denon sets my sub volume to -12.0 and that is perfect for my system.
1. the tip of the mic is more than 2 inches above than the sofa's backrest.
2.. the test positions were all far from the walls.
i can disable the sub's x-over by setting it at max. audyssey set the denon's x-over at 80hz and now the one controlling overall as sub's x-over is in defeat mode.
what dvd material are best to try out LFE's?
siguro its time to get a velo sub na ;D
Can't find my mic and manual :( Wanted to do an auto set up.\
The maid kept it and I can't find it...oh well I'll just hvae to do it tomorrow or over the weekend.
Question lang...ilang wattage consumption ng Denon 1907 when operating?
thanks streetsmart. another question sir, what's the usual speaker setting sa center? dapat ba small din like the fronts? kasi small kasi ang calculated setting ng audyssey sa center channel ko. ang rear ba small din?
what brand of power amp best match for denon 1907?
do denon 1907 + power amp set-up need high end speakers? what brand and minimum watts of speakers need for this set-up?
Macdon,
Idol ka talaga, halos every week meron ka bago. hehe congrats
The speaker settings determined by Audyssey depend on the type of speaker. However, even if Audyssey says a speaker is "large," you have the option to set it to "small" so that the sub handles all the bass below the crossover. Just choose what sounds best for you.
Did my Audyssey set up for my 1907. I'd say better ang tunog now that the first time I hooked it up. Mas ok na manood ng mga DVDs. Next step is to do some unconventional sound proofing of the room :):):)
streetsmart,
Kahit na additiona of heavy curtains and pillows lang naman. Siguro rug in the future :)
Yan kasi ang suggestion ng isa sa mga suking tindahan natin.
To help the acoustic properties of a room -- lalu na kung concrete wall is to have items na ok amg ansorb ng sound (or keep the sound inside the room???).
With those small unconventional sound proofing steps -- if you can call it that -- kelangan ko uli i-runa ng Audyssey?
I see, I see.
Kumpletuhin ko muna mga unconventional sound proofing "stuff" before I run it again.
Para isang pasada na lang.
Thanks.
Did my Audyssey set up for my 1907. I'd say better ang tunog now that the first time I hooked it up. Mas ok na manood ng mga DVDs. Next step is to do some unconventional sound proofing of the room :):):)
sir, pardon me but I think the calibration system for Denon 1907 is not an Audyssey but a regular Denon autosetup/calibration. I think only mid-level Denons beginning with 2807 has Audyssey calibration.
Audyssey question:
Will Audyssey EQ settings work when using the 7.1 analog input of the receiver or other analog inputs?
thanks streetsmart!
As an additional answer to my own question, 2 channel analog inputs do work with Audyssey. Link: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421)
I was about to make a plunge on Denon 2308 but was saddened by the fact that with this receiver, Audyssey is disengaged for HD movies. :(
Clarification. The determination of whether speakers are "large" or "small" depends on the AVR, not Audyssey. In any case, you can change the settings from "large" to "small." It's not advisable to change from "small" to "large."
:o Ganun ba yun Sir Mark?
When you suggest to do the Audyssey calibration of my AVR nakita ko naka set sa "Large" ang fronts ko.
Are you referring to the fronts ba or to all 7 speakers including SW. Sorry, I can't check now since I'm still away from home. ;D
I didn't change it after the calibration na coz for me nag improve naman from previous setting.
Based on the readings done by Audyssey, the AVR determines if each of your speakers is "full-range," i.e., able to produce a signal from 20 hz to 20 khz. These speakers are set to "Large" by the AVR. This means that the AVR assumes that the speakers can reproduce all of the bass signals sent to them.
However, the reality is often that the speakers are not actually able to produce deep bass, say from 20 hz to 50 hz. If that is the case and some deep bass is sent to the speakers, nawawala yun. That deep bass is simply not reproduced.
The solution is to set the speakers to "Small" and then set a crossover that is appropriate for that speaker (usually 80 hz but it can go to 60 hz if your speakers are really capable). That means that all the bass signals below the crossover are sent to the subwoofer instead of the speaker. This is usually the best.
just override the setting........ ;)
Any tips on how I can turn on/use/activate the AL24 Processing Plus on my 2808? I don't know how to make it work.
I think I finally have an idea about this. My understanding is as follows:
The AL24 processing on Denon equipment is essentially a Digital to Analog Converter (DAC) which is supposed to be pretty sophisticated. However, it works only with PCM tracks. If you feed PCM to the Denon AVR, the "AL24" will automatically light up. That will happen for both stereo and multi-channel (for example, the uncompressed LPCM tracks which are found on a lot of Blu-Ray discs).
hello good morning mga bosing tanong lo lang kung saan makakabili ng denon avr1707 at saan ? thanks in adavance
hello good morning mga bosing tanong lo lang kung saan makakabili ng denon avr1707 at saan ? thanks in adavance
mga denon peeps,
i am using a jvc dvd player (yung mga bundled ng crt tv) connected via component to a denon 2308 receiver. the denon is equipped with faroudja chip that can upscale to 720p and 1080p. will it be just a waste of money if i upgrade my dvd to the likes of pioneer dv600 to make use of the HDMI output? the denon will just pass thru the signal if the input is HDMI. i don't like to gamble buying a new player if the video upscaler of the denon is more superior than the pio dv600.
my jvc is old na kasi and won't play those new video formats available today sa web. but the unit still works fine. di nga lang mag match tingnan dahil luma na;D .
will be getting an HDTV soon so i need some inputs from you all.
TIA ;)
I think double upscaling is not advisable, based on what I read. I think your older DVDp will do fine.
mga denon peeps,
i am using a jvc dvd player (yung mga bundled ng crt tv) connected via component to a denon 2308 receiver. the denon is equipped with faroudja chip that can upscale to 720p and 1080p. will it be just a waste of money if i upgrade my dvd to the likes of pioneer dv600 to make use of the HDMI output? the denon will just pass thru the signal if the input is HDMI. i don't like to gamble buying a new player if the video upscaler of the denon is more superior than the pio dv600.
just a clarification: does this mean that denon 2308 upscales signal from outside device (standard DVD player) from 480i/p to 720p/1080p via component? this is gray to me...
just a clarification: does this mean that denon 2308 upscales signal from outside device (standard DVD player) from 480i/p to 720p/1080p via component? this is gray to me...
that's right. the denon 2308 will upscale composite, s-video and component input to 720p/1080i & 1080p using the built-in faroudja processor. the only gripe is when you feed the 2308 with HDMI, it will only pass-thru the signal thus only using the upscaler of the dvd.
What he means is his dvd player is connected to the 2308 via component and the 2308 connected to the tv via hdmi. Therefore, upscaling is possible via hdmi.
I think double upscaling is not advisable, based on what I read. I think your older DVDp will do fine.
what if already have the dv600 a panasonic 50" pv70 an the 2808? what would be better? to connect my dv 600 directly via hdmi to the tv or make it pass through the 2808?
guys newbie question. just got the 2808. 2.0 speakers muna. anu ba dapat value ng crossover freq? how do i configure the denon 2808 to use 2 speakers lang muna?
Gnew, last night I was testing my AVR with upscaler and the best results were achieved when I did not upscale using my DVD player. Double upscaling produced less than favourable results so I fed my receiver 480i only.
Make it pass through the 2808, the faroudja will improve the pic quality. It did for my Onkyo 705 w/ faroudja.
Sir Matz,
parang nabasa ko sa ibang thread na di advisable ang double upscaling? db may upscaling to 1080p ang pioneer dv600? if so paano madedeactivate un kung i connect ko via hdmi ng denon 2808 ung pio dv600 and hdmi out ng 2808 sa tv?
and also i read na may burn-in period ang mga receivers at speakers. how long ba ito? wag muna daw i high volume and receiver at speakers.
Thanks Sir Matz. I try ko nga. So ung sa speakers na 100 hours break-in or burn in period di pwede malakas ang volume? 20db and max ko ngayon (malakas na for movies but for music mejo mahina). does it mean magaantay ako ng 100 hours bago pwede talagang malakas ang volume?
Thanks Sir Matz. I try ko nga. So ung sa speakers na 100 hours break-in or burn in period di pwede malakas ang volume? 20db and max ko ngayon (malakas na for movies but for music mejo mahina). does it mean magaantay ako ng 100 hours bago pwede talagang malakas ang volume?
Inventory Sale
Denon 1508 - php23,000 less 20% cash
guys
i tried several suking tindahan if 1907 still available & all of them told me wala n daw, available daw un 1508 (19.5k) may pre-out ba ito and ok dn kaya ang sa 9.1 combo?
Wala na po available sa stores nung "07"series, series"08" na ang available.
Wala po pre-out yung 1508. 1908 yata ang sunod na model na may pre-out, not sure if 1708 meron.
tnx sa info eksi, qoute ng 1908 28k cash
DENON UPDATES ITS AVR LINE-UP
The release line-up and pricing is as follows:
September
UK price US price
* Denon AVR-2809 ----- £800 ----- $1,200
DENON UPDATES ITS AVR LINE-UP
The release line-up and pricing is as follows:
August
UK prices US prices
* Denon AVR-1509 ----- £280
* Denon AVR-1709 ----- £350
* Denon AVR-1909 ----- £450 ----- $650
* Denon AVR-2309 ----- £600 ----- $850
September
UK price US price
* Denon AVR-2809 ----- £800 ----- $1,200
The entry-level, AVR-1509 and AVR-1709 models are steps up from the equivalent models in Denon's '08 range - adding more channels, power and HDMI inputs (up to three in the case of the '1709) - but buyers looking for HD Audio decoding will be most tempted by the Denon AVR-1090 upwards.
The AVR-1909 handles all the HD Audio formats, plus offers 1080p Faroudja video upscaling, component video conversion, three HDMI inputs, HDMI Auto Lip Sync, Pure Direct audio option (for stereo amplification) and on-screen display set-up. It's a 7.1 channel design, with 90W per channel power output.
The AVR-2309 and AVR-2809, meanwhile, both add a fourth HDMI input, plus an extra power transformer (making three in total; the rest of the '09 range boast two).
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii48/JAQY888/denon-AVR-2309.jpg) --- AVR2309
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii48/JAQY888/DenonAVR2809CI.jpg) --- AVR2809CI
The AVR-2309 offers 100W per channel, whereas the AVR-2809 offers 115W, plus a range of custom-install-friendly features - including support for up to three zones, plus a learning remote (WHATHIFI.COM)
Sir, I see so many new receiver models from thread to thread being posted by you.
I smell SARS. ;) :) ;D >:D
One of these receivers will surely grace your setup one of these days. :)
hahahah. Musta na bro Matz?
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hahahaha. Musta na bro Matz?
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Planning to buy a 2308 to replace my old reliable Onkyo 494. Do you think there'll be big improvement in my DVD/CD/DVD-A/SACD playing? My set-up consists of Mission M72/M7C1/M70 and USAudio 512, Pioneer DVD/DVD-A/SACD player and Panasonic TH42PV70. Any suggestions in setting-up 2308 for my gears?
Mahina yung center channel ng Denon compared to my Onkyo 494. Tinaasan ko na yung channel level to +7 pero parang pigil pa rin yung dialogues. May settings pa ba na pwede i-tweak para lumabas na maganda yung dialogues? All other channels sound great, btw. :)
I've used Audyssey setup pero -4 level pa yung initial center setting na binigay. precise naman yung setting nya ng distances pero di nya madetect subwoofer ko so manual set ko na lang sub. May Phase error nung una yung center kaya pinagpalit ko yung wire, paulit-ulit yung setup ko then nag-Phase error na naman yung center. May setting kaya sa equalizer para mag-open talaga yung sound sa center at hindi parang pigil? Thanks! :)
Hmm, AVR-1909 seems to be ok for my next upgrade. Hope it comes sooner that scheduled.
those who are interested to DENON AVC-A1SR, im selling my DENON AVC-A1SR. original price 220k i selling nowfor only 90k with complete acc. no damage no scratches. malinis. open to see in actual
Rarely. Its for brightly recorded source material and I rarely come across such with DVD's.
Hmm, AVR-1909 seems to be ok for my next upgrade. Hope it comes sooner that scheduled.
Denon 1909 now available at 750sgd (23k pesos) here in SG. Im planning to get next weekend ...
W O W , a Denon 1909 at 23k ! This will definitely beat the onkyo 606. Will also get one once I get a chance to go to Makati ( am from the province kasi). Ask ko lang is the 1909 has pre-amp outputs?
Too good to be true ;D
Denon 1909 now available at 750sgd (23k pesos) here in SG. Im planning to get next weekend ...
Too good to be true ;D
Sorry to burst the bubble. This pricing is from DENON Singapore.
Sir,
Ive a friend in Singapore willing to purchase and ship for me but he's not familiar with the stores. Do you have the addresses of the stores that are often the lowest in pricing? Thanks!
Ask ko lang is the 1909 has pre-amp outputs?
i think the 1909 only has subwoofer pre-out.
Sir pa-check naman ng 2308 and 2808 diyan sa SG tutal bibili ka naman ng 1909. Pasuyo lang. ;D
Btw, is there any significant difference between 1908 and 1909?
Sir Raptor, just like you I made a shortlist...my choices are the 706 & 1909.
My requirements are as follows;
1. With Pre-outs (all channels)
2. Audessy Dynamic Volume & Eq
3. atleast 75 or higher watts
I hope you can make a detailed review of the 1909.
This will be my first setup so I want to get it right the first time, mid level setup would be just right.
Im planning to get the Dali Ikon 6 but what are you using for center?
TIA
I finally setup my Denon 1909 last weekend. I have the following connected -
Speakers - Dali Concept 6 (Fronts), Dali Concept Center, Bose Model 100 (surround speakers), no subwoofer for now
Display - Panasonic 42PV8
Sources - Pioneer DV400 and Popcorn Hour A100
My observations:
I mentioned on my first post that my first impressions on sound quality were impressive - this was when I only installed the front speakers (without any tweak on the setup) and tried to listen to few cd music and fm radio. My point of comparison was the Onkyo 601 that I replaced.
After setting up the 5.0 speakers and using Audyssey for auto setup, my first impression that it is impressive turned to WOW! Never had my system sounding this good (music listening and movie viewing). I can say that the Dali speakers may probably be a better match for the Denon than the Onkyo, but the big difference was likely the Audyssey feature - there's a very noticeable improvement after I ran the Audyssey auto setup.
On the downside, I really don't like the remote control and the user manuals - both are not user friendly ... Denon really made a mess on the remote control ... this is the first time that i saw a remote control with control buttons on both sides (front and back) .... anyways, this should not be a reason not to get the unit - the performance far outweigh the shortcomings on the remote contol and manual.
How much is the 1909? I'm planning to upgrade in the next few months and this is one of my options.
I think it's around 30k to 32k.
Thank you sir. I'm choosing between the 1909 and the HK 245. It's almost at the same price range. Although I have yet to audition both :)
we have the denon 1909, 2309 and 2809. these are the latest models from denon. all 3 models support the HD audio formats. :)
Sir, kindly pm he prices for these avrs.
thanks
we have the denon 1909, 2309 and 2809. these are the latest models from denon. all 3 models support the HD audio formats. :)
pls pm me the prices
Oyoyoyoyoy!
Do I smell an upgrade?
;D ;D ;D
nagtatanong lang...kaw naman! heheh
Any feedbacks from owners of this:
(http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR3808CI_Front_G.gif)
AVR-3808CI: 7.1 CH/5.1+2 CH A/V Home Theater/MultiMedia Multi-Source/Zone Receiver with Networking
Did a browse over some online reviews/feedbacks. Would appreciate fellow PDVD'ers feedback. TIA.
Excellent receiver. In my experience, its advantages:
1. GUI - can't live without it
2. Audyssey MultEQ XT - ditto
3. Very flexible - you can have 2 sets of side speakers + rears kaya nagiging 9.1
4. Very good DACs - excellent sound
5. Good power amps - for most systems, you don't need external power amps (although of course, it has pre-outs)
6. Extremely flexible as a video/audio hub (a lot of assignable inputs + you can rename the inputs)
7. Can internally decode hi-def audio
It normally retails at $1700 but with a little research and luck, you can get it at less than $1100 in the US. I am not sure what the price is locally.
Any feedbacks from owners of this:CNET REVIEW:
(http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR3808CI_Front_G.gif)
AVR-3808CI: 7.1 CH/5.1+2 CH A/V Home Theater/MultiMedia Multi-Source/Zone Receiver with Networking
Did a browse over some online reviews/feedbacks. Would appreciate fellow PDVD'ers feedback. TIA.
appreciate the feedback sir streetsmart.
this avr is power-packed with so many features. one of my concerns is how user-friendly is it for a first time avr buyer like myself. how useful are some of the features i.e. network connectivity for firmware upgrades, media streaming, etc.?
btw sir streetmart, can i ask what things you don't like about the 3808CI? thanks.
Given its many features, I believe it is user-friendly. However, since it is inherently complicated, magulo pa rin for a first-time AVR buyer. It may take you several weeks before makabisado mo sya.
I haven't done the firmware upgrade. Takot ako kasi if anything goes wrong, you need to send it to Denon. Wala naman ako problem. I don't use the media streaming either -- just use it for HT.
It runs a bit hot so I put a laptop fan on top of it. With that small fan, ok na sya.
ok ba ang matching sa ganitong setup:
Denon 1509
Mission MV 4 (Front)
Mission MC-C (Center)
Mission MV-2 (Surround)
the denons and mission are a good match. though if i were you i'd save up and get the 1909 for you to enjoy the new HD audio formats. we can offer you a good deal on the 1909, 2309 and 2809 models. :)
ok pa din ba ang denon 3802 na model? may nagbebenta kasi sa akin. match kaya ito sa mission na mv series?
Can you PM me also your price for the 2809, plus the 3808 if you have one. Thanks.
Finally! My brand new Denon 3806 has arrived!! Replacement of my Onkyo 605 sold here 2 months ago. Below are my considerations why I chose this receiver over other Denon's current models & brands despite it has been phased-out already. Hope I made the right decision. ;D
1. Not willing to spend over a thousand dollars for Denon 3809 that can decode lossless audio, I don't mind at all because i'm using a PS3 as BD player. Bought this receiver for USD800.
2.It also features HD connectivity like HDMI (1.1a) 2in/1out, can upconvert video signals, has audyssey multieQT(6 zones), has basically all the features of 3808 except for HD decoding & higher version of HDMI 1.3a but half the price.
3. My impression for higher end models has the capability to "DRIVE HARD" my Wharfes 9series compared to Onkyo 605 w/c sounded a lame duck receiver(sorry) when it was paired with the wharfes.
4. Finally, sana nagamot na yong curiosity ko na mas maganda tumunog mga higher models compared to entry to mid-models..
For now, hindi ko pa na-set up kasi yong banana plug ko ay twin at hindi pasok. Hindi pala pwede yon, you need the individual plugs like the one ToYO1 was selling.
Cheers!!! ;D
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Finally! My brand new Denon 3806 has arrived!! Replacement of my Onkyo 605 sold here 2 months ago. Below are my considerations why I chose this receiver over other Denon's current models & brands despite it has been phased-out already. Hope I made the right decision. ;D
1. Not willing to spend over a thousand dollars for Denon 3809 that can decode lossless audio, I don't mind at all because i'm using a PS3 as BD player. Bought this receiver for USD800.
2.It also features HD connectivity like HDMI (1.1a) 2in/1out, can upconvert video signals, has audyssey multieQT(6 zones), has basically all the features of 3808 except for HD decoding & higher version of HDMI 1.3a but half the price.
3. My impression for higher end models has the capability to "DRIVE HARD" my Wharfes 9series compared to Onkyo 605 w/c sounded a lame duck receiver(sorry) when it was paired with the wharfes.
4. Finally, sana nagamot na yong curiosity ko na mas maganda tumunog mga higher models compared to entry to mid-models..
For now, hindi ko pa na-set up kasi yong banana plug ko ay twin at hindi pasok. Hindi pala pwede yon, you need the individual plugs like the one ToYO1 was selling.
Cheers!!! ;D
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congrats on your new denon avr sir nogie. do leave some feedback once you've set it up with your wharfes. thanks for the input (very helpful for would-be-denon avr buyers) ;).
What is your exact address? ???
can anyone pm me the price of denon 1909?
yes sir I got it! thanks..na temp kasi ako sa Audyssey features..
Sir,
Pa-pm rin ako ng prices. Thanks.
bili ka na! very good receiver. ganda ng sound! with 1 year local warranty. :)
yup, ganda talaga ... i've been using mine (1909) for a couple of months now, and i'm really amazed by the sound quality ... compared to my old AVR
What is your old AVR?
yup, ganda talaga ... i've been using mine (1909) for a couple of months now, and i'm really amazed by the sound quality ... compared to my old AVR
sir ano po mga speakers gamit nyo sa denon 1909 nyo?bookshelves lang ba?kaya ba nila mg drive ng malaking speakers?
I'm using floorstanders, Wharfedale 8.3. Kaya po nya yung malalaking speakers. Di ko lang sure kung ok sya sa mga 4ohm na speakers.
sir ano po mga speakers gamit nyo sa denon 1909 nyo?bookshelves lang ba?kaya ba nila mg drive ng malaking speakers?
I just connected my BD player to my 1909 and when I play movies, the display shows that it's mulit-chan and the icons for the input only show 5.1? Is this normal or is there something wrong with my configuration? Thanks
what are you using to play your movies? you have to set your player to output the HD audio in bitstream format not PCM. :)
Have a question though regarding difference in volume level when accepting pcm from the source and when its the one decoding dd/dts. As a dvd player, i use the Sony DAV-DZ270. Although its intended to be an htib, use as it as my dvd player connected via hdmi to the 1909. the problem is it has internal decoder and no capability to bitstream audio to the reciever. Now, during playback ang lumalabas sa 1909 is multichannel pcm. I notice na compared to dvd's being played by ps3 (bitstream output via hdmi) mas mahina sound niya, sometimes i need to at least reach -5 to -10db para maging pasok ung volume level. Using the same dvd, but with the ps3 this time, -25 ok na. Is this normal? Or do i have to make some tweaks sa 1909? or is the difference due to the fact that when bitstreamed, the receiver does the decoding kaya mas maganda and mas malakas ang sound?
Last, what's the difference between configuring the sub to lfe vs. lfe + main. Although i prefer 2 channel stereo when listening to music, parang bitin ako sa base. M using wharfes 9.1 kasi (though i really like them kasi medyo laid back ang tunog), so may i ask what's the best configuration to maximize the capability of each channel. by the way, m using wharfe 9.1, 9cs, dfs and velo impact 10. Thank you so much and a prosperous new year to all the members of pinoydvd.
Last, what's the difference between configuring the sub to lfe vs. lfe + main. Although i prefer 2 channel stereo when listening to music, parang bitin ako sa base. M using wharfes 9.1 kasi (though i really like them kasi medyo laid back ang tunog), so may i ask what's the best configuration to maximize the capability of each channel. by the way, m using wharfe 9.1, 9cs, dfs and velo impact 10. Thank you so much and a prosperous new year to all the members of pinoydvd.
Bro, pag nag 2 channel stereo kayo when listening to music, naka-on ba ang sub nyo?its best to use sub when using small bookshelf speakers since small speakers can't usually reproduce frequencies below 50hz. that way your bookshelves won't distort when low frequency signals are present in the music. for example a bass guitar played with the uppermost string (E) generates approximately 40hz, and if your bookshelf has a frequency response of 60hz-20khz you can barely hear this note. it is also a good idea to set the sub filter of your amp/processor equal or higher than the low frequency response of the satellites.
Bro, pag nag 2 channel stereo kayo when listening to music, naka-on ba ang sub nyo?
Depends on the type of music I'm listening to. :) But normally I leave it off.
thank you for the comments. they're very informative. my crossover frequency for the fronts are set to 80, what should be the appropriate crossover for the sub? thanks. al try to tweak the receiver later.
No matter what kind of music you listen to, it's obviously best to hear the full frequency range. That is best achieved with a combination of your main speakers + the sub (which you achieve by designating your speakers as "Small"). The split of the frequencies is determined by the crossover frequency that you set. This applies even more so to movies.
Even if you have full-range speakers, they cannot really reproduce very deep and accurate bass. Furthermore, if you let the sub handle the low frequencies, you will have more headroom for your main speakers and they will sound better. Hindi mahihirapan ang speaker and amp.
My main speakers are pretty big and can go down to below 40 hz but the system sounds much better if I set the speakers as "Small" and let the sub handle the lower frequencies. Currently, my crossover is at 100 hz (!) and the sound is pretty good. :)
The sub doesn't really have a crossover, even if the Denon menu says it has one. It has a Low-Pass Filter (LPF) for the LFE channel. Always set that to 120 hz.
Take note that the bass from the LFE channel is totally different from the redirected bass coming from the other speakers. Just make sure that all speakers are set to "Small". An 80 hz crossover is a good starting point. Depending on the sub, you could go even a little higher.
ano po difference ng low-pass crossover and high-pass crossover in terms of its purpose? velodyne cht has both, selection for low-pass crossover ranges from 40hz - 120hz while high-pass crossover has 80hz and 100hz selection. what's the best high-pass and low-pass crossover for AVR speaker set-up to small and sub setting to LFE?
Hi Guys!
A little help please... I just got a Denon last Dec. I got the 1509. Like sir Streetsmart said, it takes time before you get the right tweaks and adjustments.
I did the Audessey and it seems like the final settings on the sub is pretty soft, (meaning...not LOUD and BOOMING at all). Also, I can still hear "bass" sounds coming from my fronts...which I want to re-direct to the subs.
Btw, I have a US Audio 512 sub, and it does not sound anything like the way it did when I bought it. Kindly enlighten me please....what do I have to do to achieve all bass frequencies to be re-dorected to the sub? Also, if I want to re-run the Audessy set-up, how do I reset the current saved settings? :)
After running Audyssey, set all of your speakers to "Small."
Then, go to the Manual Adjustments and the Crossover sub-menu. You will have to experiment with the crossover settings (set them at either what is recommended by the AVR or higher).
In that same Crossover menu, you will find the setting for the sub. Set it to 120 hz. That is actually the LPF for the LFE channel and it should always be set at 120 hz.
Tell us how it sounds after you do this.
Thanks for the info sir Mark! ;) I followed what you said and changed all the speakers to "small." And then I set the crossover of the sub to 120 Hz. Now, my question is:
How many Hz to I set for the rest of my speakers? :)
When you go to the Crossover menu in the Manual Settings, you will find that Denon has made a recommendation on the crossover point. What frequency was recommended? Normally, it's best to either accept that recommendation or raise it to the next higher frequency.
By the way, can the 1509 give a separate crossover for each speaker (Advanced option in the Crossover menu)?
Yes it can sir Mark! :) In the "Advanced" option, you can choose the crossover for each speaker...so what do I do? ???
I forgot if the one I saw sa Stop, Look and Lsiten is 1909 or 1709. But it has 2 HDMI input and 1 output.
^Baka nga. It was selling for around 20K...I guess that will also be a good indicator what model ;D
I am assuming that the 1909 will be more expensive than the 1709.
When you open that menu, it will have recommended crossovers for each speaker. What are the recommendations per speaker? You may accept those recommendations or you can raise each of them to the next higher frequency. You need to experiment.
whats the difference between 1709 and 1909?
aside from hdmi input?
the 1909 can decode dolby truehd and dts hd. the 1709 can't. :)
recommended ba 1909 for me?
pioneer dv 610 and NMT lang balak ko kasi e... then ps3...
medyo na nosebleed kasi ako sa overall price ng mga gusto ko na gears e.
hehe nosebleed papi.
laymans term pls?
meron din ba built-in eq and xover ang 1909?
It's just that I have 3 HDMI gears (PS3, DV600 and WD TV) and my display only can accommodate 2 :(
I was just thinking with the 1709 (with 2 HDMI input) I can connect the PS3 and WD TV/DV600 and have the other 1 connected to the display.
Is it worth it to upgrade to an HDMI AVR or better wait towards the middle or end of the year?
I currently have a component capable AVR (denon 1907) that also upscales to 720p.
It's just that I have 3 HDMI gears (PS3, DV600 and WD TV) and my display only can accommodate 2 :(
I was just thinking with the 1709 (with 2 HDMI input) I can connect the PS3 and WD TV/DV600 and have the other 1 connected to the display.
meron din ba built-in eq and xover ang 1909?
Just wanted to post a short review.
I just bought my first ever HT set-up from avshop last saturday. Got everything from him to simplify the purchase (thanks for the great deal). I pruchased the ff gears:
Denon 1909
Wharfe 9.5
Wharfe 9cs
Wharfe DFS
Polk Audio PSW 125
Its primarily for HT, as I'm not much of a music lover.
As a newbie, the reason I got the Denon over other receivers (HK, Yamaha) was primarily because of Audyssey. I wanted to simplify my life in terms of setting up. I didnt think I'd have the patience to keep on tinkering with the receiver if I had to set-up all the speaker delay, crossover, etc settings myself. I just wanted a box to plug in and enjoy right away. The manual of the Denon wasn't the nightmare as most of the online reviews mentioned. Most guys can go over and understand it easily.
Setting up via Audyssey was a breeze, took about 20 mins to perform the 6 location test. To my untrained ears, it sounded very good. I guess Audyssey really works well as advertised.
The unexpected bonus for me was really the Audyssey Dynamic Volume. I can't really watch full blast at home, so this feature really helps when watching movies at night. It has 3 settings -- day, evening, and midnight. I've used evening and midnight. The feature helps you hear the dialogue of the movie better without sacrificing the sound effects, especially if you're watching late at night, and without disturbing people asleep.
You can turn off both features if you want to. But for a newbie like me, the Audyssey features really made it easier for me to enjoy my HT set-up quite quickly. The Denon 1909 is a good buy.
Just wanted to post a short review.
I just bought my first ever HT set-up from avshop last saturday. Got everything from him to simplify the purchase (thanks for the great deal). I pruchased the ff gears:
Denon 1909
Wharfe 9.5
Wharfe 9cs
Wharfe DFS
Polk Audio PSW 125
Its primarily for HT, as I'm not much of a music lover.
As a newbie, the reason I got the Denon over other receivers (HK, Yamaha) was primarily because of Audyssey. I wanted to simplify my life in terms of setting up. I didnt think I'd have the patience to keep on tinkering with the receiver if I had to set-up all the speaker delay, crossover, etc settings myself. I just wanted a box to plug in and enjoy right away. The manual of the Denon wasn't the nightmare as most of the online reviews mentioned. Most guys can go over and understand it easily.
Setting up via Audyssey was a breeze, took about 20 mins to perform the 6 location test. To my untrained ears, it sounded very good. I guess Audyssey really works well as advertised.
The unexpected bonus for me was really the Audyssey Dynamic Volume. I can't really watch full blast at home, so this feature really helps when watching movies at night. It has 3 settings -- day, evening, and midnight. I've used evening and midnight. The feature helps you hear the dialogue of the movie better without sacrificing the sound effects, especially if you're watching late at night, and without disturbing people asleep.
You can turn off both features if you want to. But for a newbie like me, the Audyssey features really made it easier for me to enjoy my HT set-up quite quickly. The Denon 1909 is a good buy.
By definition, a low-pass filter (not crossover) allows frequencies lower than the designated point to pass through. A high-pass filter is the opposite - higher frequencies pass through.
What I referred to in my previous post was the setting in the AVR, which is a low-pass filter (LPF) for the LFE channel. The settings at the sub itself are different.
The LPF in your sub will determine the maximum frequency that the sub will reproduce. Normally, this is set to the highest level and then the actual frequencies which are sent to the sub are determined by the settings in the bass management system of your AVR (basically crossover points and LPF for LFE). In your case, set it to 120 hz.
The high-pass filter that you mention sounds like an output. It sounds like the type of connection wherein you send the full signal to the sub and then hook the sub to the main speakers. Between the sub and the main speakers, the high-pass filter will be activated so you can send frequencies above either 80 hz or 100 hz. This type of connection is not used very much anymore. It's better to let the AVR handle the bass management.
Quite often, the sub has a third filter which is called a subsonic filter and is actually a high-pass filter. It will determine the lowest frequencies that the sub will reproduce. A typical subsonic filter is 35 hz or 20 hz. It basically limits the bass you can reproduce.
in a denon 1909 receiver..if your setup is only 5.1..where do you connect the rear speakers?the surround or surround back terminals?
wala pa..binabasa ko palang sa avs forums..napansin ko kasi me surround and surround back..so ang surround back is for the pair of speakers to make your 5.1 a 7.1 system?
you got text pala :D
Anong Denon entry level and meron na HDMI and can decode BD audio (TrueHD ba yun?)? And what is the price range?
sir jeyps HCP right?nabenta mo na old receiver mo?
Yup HCP nga. I still have my 1907 pero nag hahanap ng kapalit ;D Gusto ko sana with HDMI tapos pwede na decode ng BR audio.
Oo nga eh...tagal ko naiwasan ang SARS kaso chronic na ;D ;D ;D
Para lang sana lahat ng components (upscaler, PS3 and WDTV) daan lahat ng AVR. Saka take advantage of the TrueHD audio ng BD at mga .mkv files sayang eh.
Magkano ba current price ng 1909?
what can you say about denon being made in china?
:-[ Sobra sobra sa budget ko. Ipon mode na lang uli. Sayang may taker na sana yung 1907 ko.
Kaso laki ng additional cash to get the 1909.
Almost everything is made in China now a days ;D The difference...companies like Denon ensure that the quality is still there mainly because their reputation is at stake. They are not start up companies that will sacrifice everything to lower the price. Bottom line, I wouldn't be worried with the overall quality of the product even if it is made in China.
:-[ Sobra sobra sa budget ko. Ipon mode na lang uli. Sayang may taker na sana yung 1907 ko.
Kaso laki ng additional cash to get the 1909.
^Uy nice price yan for the 1909 ah. Kaso COD...ang bigat :( Sbrang gusto ko na mag upgrade kaso wala talaga budget.
^Uy nice price yan for the 1909 ah. Kaso COD...ang bigat :( Sbrang gusto ko na mag upgrade kaso wala talaga budget.
get na the denon 1909 from me. good deal na offer ko sa yo. :)
can I interface a stereo equalizer in the denon 1909? like for example I would like to use the fronts for stereo? or the zone 2..tia mga sirs
HI Brother Moks007!
Ganda talaga yang itim ;D ;D ;D
i can give good deals on the 1909. :)
hi bro whats up? ya man ganda nga. I'm salivating for this, great price and nice performance ;D I'm saving up ;D
ok sir noted, got ur pm, will text you, thanks
Wag na patagalin yan brader Moks007, pwede terms yan kay avshop ;) >:D. Madadaan yan sa ma"boteng" usapan. ;) ;D
Denon owners,
Pls recommend a speaker for an entry-level denon receiver.
Tnx
How much is your budget? Are you getting floorstanders or bookshelfs? Actually I'm also in the market for new speakers. And I'm looking at the B&W 685 as my replacements. But I'm still looking at other brands and models. ;Dhmm....;D
Go go for B&W 685. ;D
I really want to get the Denon 1909 ;D..Maybe in a couple of months.
Here's the review, ok na ok for me :)
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/processor-and-receiver-reviews/receivers/denon-avr-1909-7.1-a/v-receiver.html
How much is your budget? Are you getting floorstanders or bookshelfs? Actually I'm also in the market for new speakers. And I'm looking at the B&W 685 as my replacements. But I'm still looking at other brands and models. ;D
hmmm.....
banat na sir jojit!!!
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How much is your budget? Are you getting floorstanders or bookshelfs? Actually I'm also in the market for new speakers. And I'm looking at the B&W 685 as my replacements. But I'm still looking at other brands and models. ;D
mga sir,
tnx sa inputs, gusto ko rin sana b&w 685 unfortunately way beyond my budget.
am contemplating on getting the most affordabe ht speakers package:
1. jamo 606 hcs3
2. wharfedale 9.5, 9sr and 9cs
3. a n y m o r e s u g g e s t i o n s ?
tnx
sir jeyps11_c sell mo rin b wharfs u?
the denon 1909 is the cheapest denon model to have hdmi for audio and video and can decode the new HD audio formats. i can give you a good deal on one if you want. :)
mga sir,
tnx sa inputs, gusto ko rin sana b&w 685 unfortunately way beyond my budget.
am contemplating on getting the most affordabe ht speakers package:
1. jamo 606 hcs3
2. wharfedale 9.5, 9sr and 9cs
3. a n y m o r e s u g g e s t i o n s ?
tnx
sir jeyps11_c sell mo rin b wharfs u?
sir avshop paki pm din sa best price ng 1909
tia
sent you pm :)
when I hooked this avr to my gears..all smiles na lang ako while watching..just a big grin to my face..
dynamic volume ok for movies..iba yung tunog nya pag naka off..although mas ok na sa akin yung naka off..too boomy for my taste so hinihinaan ko volume and na ddefeat dialogue..
anyawy happy owner here ;D
isa pa pala sa 1909..so volume lang madalas magamit dun sa front remote db..kasi pag switch ako sa HDMI2 or HDP..kelangan is yung sa rear remote pa ang pindutin?
Fellow Denon Owners
Recently acquired a brand new denon avr1508, my problem is everytime I play a dts disc, the receiver doesn't display the "DTS SURROUND", instead what it always shows is "Dolby Digital".
I set my player digital out to raw and pcm, but of no success.
Please help
Tnx
Fellow Denon Owners
Recently acquired a brand new denon avr1508, my problem is everytime I play a dts disc, the receiver doesn't display the "DTS SURROUND", instead what it always shows is "Dolby Digital".
I set my player digital out to raw and pcm, but of no success.
Please help
Tnx
Fellow Denon Owners
Recently acquired a brand new denon avr1508, my problem is everytime I play a dts disc, the receiver doesn't display the "DTS SURROUND", instead what it always shows is "Dolby Digital".
I set my player digital out to raw and pcm, but of no success.
Please help
Tnx
i think you have to set the dvd player audio out. usually may 3 choices sa audio output: dts, DD and stereo, aside from the different languages
set your dvd player to output dolby digital and dts in bitstream format. that way, your receiver will do the decoding. :)
what's ur previous set-up po?
may be this can be solved by digital connection
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93551.0
sir,
tried this one already, unfortunately, even if the player indicates dts, the receiver still displays dolby digital, how weird ???
I use coax digital out from my source to the receiver. Ganoon lang po ka-simple set-up ko. Is it possible kaya hindi mag-dts is walang subwoofer na naka-kabit? Pero bakit dolby digital nag-a-appear?
sir,
re audio output, are you referring to the digital output of the player? tried spdif off, raw and pcm - but to no avail.
what seems to be the problem?
I don't think subwoofer-less set up causes it po.
Try checking the input mode of the receiver if set to Auto
sir,
nka-auto po, kapag dts ang sound coming from the player, dolby ang output sa display ng avr, if kapag select ko naman ang dts sa receiver lumalabas sa avr display ang dts pero wala namang sound :'(
parang yung source ang may defect po.
in my opinion, you player throws dolby signal not dts signal
what's your player po (brand, model)?
Will you buy a 25% cheaper 2808 than a 2809? Did the comparison already and will need others advise to make up my mind...
Will you buy a 25% cheaper 2808 than a 2809? Did the comparison already and will need others advise to make up my mind...
TIA
Will you buy a 25% cheaper 2808 than a 2809? Did the comparison already and will need others advise to make up my mind...
TIA
The main difference is that the 2809 has Audyssey Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume. These features are incredibly good, particularly Dynamic EQ, but it is useful only if you listen at levels below reference. If you do, I would get the 2809.
Fellow Denon Owners
Is it safe to use the AVR1508 at reference volume level? By the way , what is the reference volume level in movie playback?
Since it is an entry-level amp , will it be able to deliver all the "ooohhhsss" and "aaahhhsss"? Am currently using it in a small room and also using a subwoofer.
Tnx
I agree. Believe me, those features are very useful when doing midnight movie marathons. ;) But if you have a dedicated soundproofed room and don't have a need to turn down the volume during loud scenes, then the 2808 would do.
Thanks for the inputs! Greatly considered the pros for the 2809 but in the end I decided to go for the cheaper 2808 and use the extra cash to buy other gadgets.
Another question I have is will it make sense to connect the 2808 with a 5 channel power amp na rated 100wpc? 2808 is already rated 110wpc......
I use my 2808 as a pre amp/processor with a Rotel 1565 five channel power amp (100wpc). I noticed that I could play movies and music at louder volumes and yet my ears are less fatigued. I guess it depends on your preference, the 2808's internal amps are good enough in my opinion.
sir dobler ygpm
hi... is the 3809 available locally? any info will be highly appreciated... i'm thinking of an upgrade.
thanks
I think Denon has not yet released 3809. This model is not found in Denon's US and Japan websites. http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/AVReceivers.asp (http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/AVReceivers.asp); http://denon.jp/products/avamp.html (http://denon.jp/products/avamp.html)
Some says that Denon will skip 3809 and launch 3810 instead. Check here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1056872 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1056872).
I was out of town for 1 1/2 weeks and only got a chance to watch today but my denon 1909 suddenly got problem. After turning on, light turns green then goes off and red light blink.
Has anyone encountered this before? Pls advise how to fix it. Thanks.
Haven't encountered anything like that. Try first turning it on with everything disconnected except the power cable. try also checking the manual for troubleshooting tips. Will try to check mine later when I get home.
Haven't encountered this. There is a reset procedure for the AVR, which should be found in the manual. I suggest you try that.
Nag try ako this lunchtime, di gumana itong reset.
Mukhang kailangan nang dalhin sa service center. Thanks for the advice.
Bad trip. And I'm not very impressed with the service center here. Good luck! Balitaan mo kami ano nangyari
I was out of town for 1 1/2 weeks and only got a chance to watch today but my denon 1909 suddenly got problem. After turning on, light turns green then goes off and red light blink.
Has anyone encountered this before? Pls advise how to fix it. Thanks.
Hi fellow Denon owners!
Im an owner of a Denon 3806 & can't find the "sleep function" neither in the receiver or remote control. Any help will be appreciated. ;D
Same here. Can't also find it on the 1909 ;D
sir,
how much po yung denon 2309 and 2809?
hi avshop,
kindly pm me the price of your denon 2809 thank you :)
Avshop,
Plese PM me also prices for 1909, 2309 and 2809.
Thanks.
thank you kindly pm also denon 2309 price thank you
Meron ba update software updates ang Denon that adds more audio decoders?
Kasi meron ako isang movie na hindi ma decode and audio, so wala tuloy sound.
I tried the same movie sa PS3 meron naman sound so it means meron decoder yung PS3 for that audio na wala yung 1907 ko.
Mahwah, NJ, May 11, 2009 - Denon Electronics, one of the world's premier manufacturers of high-quality home entertainment components, today introduced its line of advanced audio/video receivers with nine new offerings for 2009/2010, including three that feature industry-leading networking and Web access capabilities. New Denon receivers include the following, with expected availability dates in parenthesis: AVR-4310CI (SRP: $1,999, May '09), AVR-3310CI (SRP: $1,499, June '09), AVR-2310CI (SRP: $849, June '09), AVR-1910 (SRP: $549, May '09) and AVR-1610 (SRP: $379, May '09), as well as four new receivers in Denon's Retail Home Theater Series line, the AVR-990 (SRP: $1,499, July '09), AVR-890 (SRP: $799, June '09), AVR-790 (SRP: $499, June '09) and AVR-590 (SRP: $349, June '09). The initials "CI" (for Custom Integration) in the three models noted above emphasize the inclusion of special features and capabilities geared specifically toward professional custom integrators.
avshop,
Please pm me your best prices for denon 2809 and yamaha 863, ty
i own a 3802 , do u guys think ill should upgrade? what model? TIA
10 series :) or 09 series if you don't want to wait.
2809 and above.
sir,
malaki ba talaga difference sa SQ... btw my main source is Egreat M34A, TIA
i don't know kung meron ang 02 series ng audyssey ... because it and the SVS AS-EQ1 really improved my SQ. (without the EQ1, receiver audysseys kill subwoofer bass IMO)
aside from that, i don't believe the hardware between the 02 and new models should have an audible difference.
wala po audyssey.... luma na kasi 2003 pa ;D.... wow better bass pa from my Velodyne SPL1200..... nice
kasi right now SW setting on my 3802 is (-3) ... sobra lakas kc if louder pa ;D ;D
thanks for the info.....
actually, better sound quality from your main speakers if you use the receiver audyssey ... yung AS-EQ1 is a separate SVS product that equalizes subwoofers :)
quick question mga sir..
which is better denon 2309 or onkyo sr-706?
post feedback na rin please thank you
for me... denon is for best audio... onkyo is best for video.
what's the best for both worlds?
Disturbed. Not sure what the problem is but we can check with the service center. Have you tried calling them?under warranty pa naman. I can call them for you if you want. :)
please help mga sirs
I watched a movie in the afternoon and everything is ok but when I tried to watch another movie late in the evening my 1909 set up have been erased...my quick memory settings are also gone..my audyssey setup, assigned inputs are all gone..
I did not touch anything..I am not sure what happened and why everything was reset..I don't even know how to reset this receiver so I am sure I did not do anything..
naupuan ko lng ung remote pero wala naman ako makita na reset..hay kakapagod pa man din mag set up nito.
tia mga sirs
Help naman po sa mga denon users, just bought 2808. Audyssey is working, testone is working but I cant output any sound from any sources. I have WDTV connected thru optical, PC connected thru EXT IN, and an ipod thru RCA. I cant get any sound from all sources. The tuner also doesn't output any white noise. I'm sure its not on mute, and the volume is at -20db.
TIA
did you assign the optical input number for the WDTV input?
i think you might also need to assign "analog" for RCA inputs
thanks mark..I'll try to set it up once more..if this happened again then I'll contact you :D
just really wan to know what caused it..baka me naka experience na din ng ganun
Bale dun po sa input mode ng denon, triny ko na yung auto, analog, digital, ext. in.
Dun po sa wdtv, natry ko sya both analog and digital. Working din po sya sa old sony amp ko
HELP.
The remote of my Denon AVR-3802, stopped functioning properly, though it still lights everytime I push a button, the problem is, it cant seem to command the AVR.
Anyone who knows where I can bring the remote for checkup? TIA :)
need advise:
I have a Denon 2808 with Wharfedale 9.1 fronts.
I was wondering is I could bi amp and bi wire the speakers to see how it would work/sound. At the same rate I am already quite fixated on upgrading the speakers very soon but before that I would like to see how the avr would make this wharfedale sound better. If this is a good idea, can anybody help me connect this set up? im quite parenoid still after reading the manual of the denon.
basically, to bi-amp the speakers, the denon is gonna switch the surround back amps to output the same signal as the main L and R.
you should try it. who knows? at the very least it's a learning experience.
i've tried bi-amping with a Rotel RMB1077 and i heard no difference. my mains are now bi-wired with 12/4 speaker cables (because i can) :D but again, no sound difference.
oh ok thanks, let me try for the experience also... do i just connect another set of wires from the designated bi amp terminals and straight to the speaker and remove the bi wire connectors in the speakers literally?
yes.
yes, remove the jumpers between the speaker binding posts.
hey any chance these models will be available sa atin? and how much?
Denon 1610
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=415
Denon 1910
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=414
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/datadir/pdf/pi/AVR-1910.pdf
Denon 2310
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=413
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/datadir/pdf/pi/AVR-2310.pdf
hey any chance these models will be available sa atin? and how much?
Denon 1610
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=415
Denon 1910
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=414
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/datadir/pdf/pi/AVR-1910.pdf
Denon 2310
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=413
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/datadir/pdf/pi/AVR-2310.pdf
Hi guys,
Just a quick question : have any of you thought that the denons (1909 below) lacked power to drive your speakers?
I'm saving up for a good receiver and I like the 1909's feature set, but the lack of pre-outs cuts off the possibility of using an external power amp, making me think twice about it.
Thanks.
Or if you can't wait & 110V isn't an issue to you, we have members here like Toy 01 & Anya who can offer you better prices than locally acquired AVRs. ;D
why is 1910 cheaper than 1909?
http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4858.asp
does the 1910 have preouts for poweramp?
sorry @titopepe, only sub pre-out, based on the link you posted. :(
if you want pre-outs, yamaha 663 or 665 series and up has it, onkyo 7 series up has it too.
bakit kaya inalis yung pre-out feature sa 19xx series?
tumaas lang naman ng 5-watt per channel power yung new compare to old 19xx
anyone know the difference between, say, the 2309 and 2808? ???2808ci vs. 2309ci:
(or in general... what's the difference between the 23xx and 28xx series)?
...the audyssey instructions (from the web) advises that after setting the respective xovers for the speakers manually, the LFE xover/cutoff must be set to 120hz if it can be set.... in my case I set the speakers individually at 80hz with the exception of the LFE which is 120hz in the advanced setup whereas before I just had it basically at 80hz for everything. Is that adviseable?
Yes, that's correct.
The setting for the LFE is actually a low-pass filter (LPF) which allows only frequencies at and below the setting to go to the subwoofer. Since the LFE channel has content all the way up to 120 hz, it is correct to set the LPF to 120 hz. That's the correct setting, with or without Audyssey.
by my understanding that would not conflict with the xover of the mains?
I also received conflicting suggestions on the LFE+main setting. I set my fronts to small. I read from another site that they set their SW settings in denon to LFE+main while others discourage this....
Streetsmart,
I read on your HT gallery thread that you previously owned a 2808 that eventually got damaged. I'm curious with what happened. I too owned a 2808 and it died in less than a year. I was using it as a pre amp and an unusual static buzz was being fed to all channels. Thankfully, the Denon is still under warranty but it's been 4 months and hasn't been repaired. Nagiintay pa yung service center ng replacement parts. I've since upgraded to an Onkyo 876.
Sorry to hear that about your Denon 2808.
The shop said that the DSP chips in my 2808 were destroyed. No idea how that happened. I have a big AVR and line conditioner. Will cost P20k to repair. I'm thinking I will have it repaired and then sell it.
An Onkyo 876 is pretty good. PQ may even be better than the Denon 2808. Audio is probably about the same.
Sorry to hear that about your Denon 2808.
The shop said that the DSP chips in my 2808 were destroyed. No idea how that happened. I have a big AVR and line conditioner. Will cost P20k to repair. I'm thinking I will have it repaired and then sell it.
An Onkyo 876 is pretty good. PQ may even be better than the Denon 2808. Audio is probably about the same.
The LFE channel is different from the main channels. LFE is mainly for sound effects. There will be no conflict if the xover of the LFE channel is different from the mains.
The fronts should always be set to small and let the subwoofer handle frequencies below the xover.
LFE+main is a bad idea and the terminology is also very confusing. It means that both the sub and the main speakers will handle frequencies below the xovers. This means that those bass frequencies will be reproduced twice - in the sub and the main speakers. Which means that the bass will be exaggerated.
Reason i'm asking is that I used to own a Velodyne VX10 ... it sounded great for my setup then, but everytime I hear the same model on stores or other owners setup, they seem to be getting the best of it ...their bass are sounding a lot better even with low-end or smaller speakers complementing the sub compared to my system ... i'm just worried that I still would not be able to optimize my setup even with a better subwoofer without an expert advice.
There are times when your room is the culprit. Even though how much you tweak your subwoofer settings, it just wouldn't sound the same as with stores or other people's setups.WOW!! i never thought that the location's factor would be as big as that! :o :o
I've tried putting my home theater setup in 4 different rooms and it only sounded great in two of them. Bass was almost non-existent in the other two rooms.
Sir Streetsmart,
Thanks for this valuable info ... i recently purchased a SVS PB10NSD subwoofer to complement my 5.0 setup on a Denon 1909 AVR, i would like to ask for pointers in setting up the subwoofer to get the most of it...by the way, the PB10NSD does not have a cross-over amp - only the phase and gain are adjustable, everything else would be set on the AVR ...i'm using Dali Concept 6 floorstanders for my fronts.
Reason i'm asking is that I used to own a Velodyne VX10 ... it sounded great for my setup then, but everytime I hear the same model on stores or other owners setup, they seem to be getting the best of it ...their bass are sounding a lot better even with low-end or smaller speakers complementing the sub compared to my system ... i'm just worried that I still would not be able to optimize my setup even with a better subwoofer without an expert advice.
I'm planning to use the Audyssey auto setup, but I read that that is not enough to optimize the subwoofer performance.
Thanks in advance sir.
Just saw this post after answering the same question sent via PM and not saving my answer. ;D
Anyhow, I don't think there's any big secret about this. If you have Audyssey, just follow the set-up guide at AVS Forum and 80% of the job is done. It's that good.
The remaining 20% is sub placement and there's a lot of articles in the web about this. Finally, you have acoustic treatment - broadband absorbers and bass traps. There are threads at pinvoydvd about this. You can DIY it easily.
In my experience, there are very few stores which set up their subs properly. Nearly all of them have the subs too loud and with improper eq. And I have heard very few set-ups of members which have impressive bass set-ups (probably the best I've heard is that of Alvinthx and he has tons of experience + equipment).
In order to know if your sub is well set-up, you need to listen to deep bass music. Music ... because we know what it's supposed to sound like. Not explosions because you don't really know what that sounds like unless sundalo ka.
At Landmark, I just saw a copy of the dvd of Cream at Royal Albert Hall. Track 12 has a fantastic sequence of the bass guitar going up note by note for more than an octave. This happens twice, starting at 62:45. If you can hear each note distinctly and they sound equal in volume + the bass sounds tight (you hear the note and then it dies quickly, the sound energy doesn't linger in the room), your bass should be pretty good. That dvd also has a lot of parts where Jack Bruce (bass guitarist) does all sorts of tricks with his guitar (sliding, vibrating, etc.). If the bass set-up is good, you should be able to hear all those tricks. If bass in music sound good, you can be sure that bass in movies will sound great!
Good luck!
hi guys,
i have a few questions regarding the following: (forgive my 6 pack on the photos) :)
what are these settings for?
im not using a sub for now but planning to add by sept. where should i set these at, when i have a sub and when i dont have a sub?
many thanks ^_^
Hard to say unless you say exactly how you got to those screens. You need to tell us what the menu options were which made you reach those screens.It would also be helpful if you tell us what is the model of your Denon.thanks for the quick reply bro mark
thanks for the quick reply bro mark
btw i got those option by accessing "system"
1. Sp (speaker)
--->12. Cr. Over 120Hz
2. In (input)
---> 9. EXT. In SW
3. op (option ??? )
---> 2. P. On : Last
many thanks :D
thanks for the quick reply bro mark
btw i got those option by accessing "system"
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/IMG_0160.jpg)
Your AVR settings menu seems to be similar to mine. My AVR is Denon 1507, so I'll try to help you out.
1. Sp (speaker)
--->12. Cr. Over 120Hz
All frequencies above this cross-over point will be routed to your speakers, while all frequencies below this cross-over point will be routed to your subwoofer, if you have set all the speakers to "Small". if you have set your speakers to "Large", all frequencies will be routed to your speakers, and depending if you have set you Subwoofer setting(SW) to "On" or "Off" your subwoofer will be low-passed at this frequency and will cause some overlaps in some bass frequencies with your speakers.
It is best to set this Cross-over point to 80Hz or 100Hz as recommended by THX and set your speakers to "Small", if you have a subwoofer. As usual, tinker with these settings and let your ears decide. ;D
Gurus, correct me if im wrong. thanks.
2. In (input)
---> 9. EXT. In SW
When using the 7.1 channels External Input, this is the volume adjustment for the subwoofer. Setting it to "SW+5" means the subwoofer level will be 5dB higher than the rest of the channels.
3. op (option ??? )
---> 2. P. On : Last
This is the volume setting when the AVR is turned on. Setting it to "Last" means the current volume will be set to the last volume setting stored previously, or before the AVR was turned off.
many thanks :D
1. Sp (speaker)
--->12. Cr. Over 120Hz
2. In (input)
---> 9. EXT. In SW
3. op (option ??? )
---> 2. P. On : Last
threadlock thanks for the quick reply bro ^_^Currently my setup is still in chaos, and the LCR speakers are mismatched. Currently using MA RS1 for fronts, Yamaha NS-C444 for center and Yamaha NS-333 for surrounds. I have two subs-- One DIY dual Elemental Designs 13Av 7.25 cubic feet for HT use and one DIY dual opposed Infinity Kappa sealed for music use. But im not using the dual 13Av anymore, I banned its use temporarily until I have installed good soundproofing because my 3 neighbors is already complaining. Because while I enjoy the low bass inside my home, my neighbors is wondering if it is already the end of the world. (http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/shakehousedown.gif) :o, just kidding, but I think it just rocks them well over to the point it becomes annoying to their ears(and body). ;D
btw i never thought that this receiver is capable of 7.1 ???
(http://www.marcush.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/denon-avr1509_back.jpg)
where should i put the "side surround" ???
ill test your answer on number 3. later :D
since i don't have a sub yet for testing your answer's to 1 and 2 ;D ;D
btw what sub and sats are you using? :D
Ok mga sagot ni threadlock. Just some clarifications:thanks mark :)
1. If this is the crossover frequency, once you have a sub, set it to 80 hz or 100 hz (experiment ka lang). Set the sub to LFE only, not LFE+Main and set all speakers to Small.
2. This option exists because there is supposed to be a 10db boost for the LFE channel of DVD's and this is usually done automatically when you use the digital inputs of the AVR. When you use the analog input, depending on the DVD player and the AVR, there is sometimes a wrong setting so the level of the LFE channel can be off, in which case you need to adjust this setting.
The problem with using the analog inputs is that you forego the digital processing in the AVR, particularly Audyssey. Therefore, its a pretty bad idea to use the analog inputs!
btw follow up q's :)
1. if i don't have a sub installed, does this mean i can't see this option? "LFE only and LFE+Main"
2. i'm using digital thru coax, so i'll just leave it at 0 db or default?
btw i don't know if you noticed this but remember our subwoofer EB last May?
i remembered the DIY subs not able to perform well during the unplugged music videos.
1. If you don't have a sub, you shouldn't be able to have this option. Those options apply only for the sub.thanks again bro :)
2. If you use a digital connection, that setting does not apply. It is relevant only if you use the analog inputs (which I don't recommend). Leave it at default.
DIY subs can perform quite well. I think that the main issue during that EB was that the volume of the DIY subs was not properly calibrated so they were pretty loud and tended to drown out the higher frequencies. When you have bullets and explosions, you won't notice it that much but it is noticeable with music.
The other point is that there is a big difference in sound between ported and sealed subs. In my experience, sealed subs are better at reproducing music while ported subs can go deeper and louder. The DIY subs you heard were ported.
Hi Sirs medyo OT lang...
have a problem with my 1705 the power button is blinking and when i turn it on it shut down after 5 seconds... help sana with my problem
last chance before sending it in for checkup:is this a safety feature of the receiver?
remove all connections, interconnects and speaker wires.
try to start your receiver. most of the time it's speaker wires touching each other.
is this a safety feature of the receiver?
last chance before sending it in for checkup:
remove all connections, interconnects and speaker wires.
try to start your receiver. most of the time it's speaker wires touching each other.
Mukhang may direct experience ka nito. ;D ;D
yes, that's why i praise the day and the inventor of the greatest invention in AV ever ... banana plugs. ;D
Even better -- twin banana plugs. Banana plugs na d twin can short. I know ... 2 times na putok ang fuse ng amp ko. ;D ;Dproblema bro they dont have a standard :(
problema bro they dont have a standard :(
There seems to be a standard buy some speakers and AVR's don't follow the standard. In that case, that's the end of you. ;Dnalito ako bro ;D ;D
nalito ako bro ;D ;D
My post had a typo. Should have read "There seems to be a standard but some speakers and AVR's don't follow the standard."
The distance between the binding posts of speakers (or AVR's) is mostly the same but there are some cases when they are quite different and don't seem to follow a standard.
the SVS pb10nsd subwoofer is working perfectly now ... i do not really know what resolved it, but i did a total reset of my cable connections and setup of the AVR ...everything is working fine now
initial observation on the pb10nsd performance - quite impressive ... i haven't even setup using the Audyssey, i'll be doing that tonight :)
thanks for the support guys
the SVS pb10nsd subwoofer is working perfectly now ... i do not really know what resolved it, but i did a total reset of my cable connections and setup of the AVR ...everything is working fine now
initial observation on the pb10nsd performance - quite impressive ... i haven't even setup using the Audyssey, i'll be doing that tonight :)
thanks for the support guys
In the new line of Denon's, what is the cheapest model with pre-outs?
In the new line of Denon's, what is the cheapest model with pre-outs?
Saan po ang mga authorized service center ng Denon?call 929 5334 LOTTEWORLD authorized service center :)
Seems I have a problem with my 1907. Anything I connect to Optical 1 is not wokring (PS3, WDTV and Pio DVD). Dati naman gumagana siya. Tried using different optical cables wala pa din. Optical 2 and 3 are working fine. Ayaw ko lang yung pag kaka-kabit sa Optical 3 ngayon kasi naka-labas ang cable.
I want to have it checked sana kung ano problema. Baka meron lang sa settings na nagalaw eh.
the 2310. i can give you a good deal on one. come by the shop to check it out. :)
sir san shop mo? do you do trade-in?
DENON AVR-1907 For Sale (P16) class A
0939 228 7253
up for you ;D ;D ;D
sir, mukang di ka mapakali ah ??? >:(
Guys question lang. what's the difference bet. dolby pro logic II and dte neo 6? halos pareho lang naman yata sila when it comes to production ng sound. which is better kaya? thanks! ;D my av reciever is 1609.
thanks sir iinas! ;D btw, ung dolby digital or yung dts gagana lang ba cya kapag naka 7.1? doesn't say anything kasi sa manual. thanks!
I have a 1709 (us model). The thing I noticed about the lower models is that it doesn't convert analog to digital. If you input via rca or component, your output to the TV will also be analog. Which models start converting to digital? Does the 1910 convert already? This would be an issue for me since I want only the HDMI cable going to my display without the need of additional component cables. (Medyo malayo kasi yung Receiver ko sa display).
Any thoughts?
Hello, I'm new here and been meaning to get myself a decent AVR for myself. I'm starting from scratch and know little of the tech talk and jargon yet. I don't really know what an avr can do, if it can send signals to my TV better than a standard player.?. I just would like your advices please on what unit I should consider.
1. music is the first priority. 70 to 80% for it. I don't really need something very loud since I have a smallish room. I love Jazz so clarity is something I hopefully get. I was told that Denon shines on this field.
2. I wish that the avr though would be at least 5.1 capable and not limited to stereo.
3. I don't need something new nor a new model, but I wish it to be.
4. I prefer that it is up to date on things that I can use such as HDMI or DTS capable.
5. most of the things I would play would come from a computer, ipod or maybe a built in radio.
6. I still don't have any speakers but was advised to look for celestion or maybe B&W.
7. I will be building this one item at a time when budget allows.
8. entry level would be ok, but since I don't intend to be changing it for a while a mid level one would be preferred. future proof would be great, but if I wouldn't use the feature, then it is just extra expense on me that I can probably live without.
9. budget is requested at 15k but I can save up to buy a good one if I need to.
thank you.
timber
hi timber, why don't you come by the shop and compare the different avrs. we have denon, onkyo and harman kardon. you can compare them side by side so you can hear the differences for yourself. SmileyI probably would one of these days, but it would be nice to know what to look out for...
2310, if I'm not mistaken.
Ganda sir. Where did you get it? I'm also saving for the Denon 1910. I would have gotten it last week pero nadivert yung fund ko for some other things. Hopefully, I get to recover the amount in a 2 or 3 weeks para matuloy na.
not much to go by in this thread, so I decided to just go ahead and get me a Denon 1909 ;D...
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00014.jpg)
thanks guys, am very happy with he purchase, except that I am now broke. hehehe.ok lang yan sir.ang mahalaga masaya ka ;D ;DCONGRATS!!
not much to go by in this thread, so I decided to just go ahead and get me a Denon 1909 ;D...ganda black!!!!!!
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00014.jpg)
speakers naman next... maybe in two to three months time I would have a pair that I like... for now I got to settle with these pair of kennies since the amp is busted...
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00003.jpg)
not much to go by in this thread, so I decided to just go ahead and get me a Denon 1909 ;D...
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00014.jpg)
not much to go by in this thread, so I decided to just go ahead and get me a Denon 1909 ;D...
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00014.jpg)
speakers naman next... maybe in two to three months time I would have a pair that I like... for now I got to settle with these pair of kennies since the amp is busted...
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00003.jpg)
sir timber715, congrats on your new receiver ganda! sir aside from 1909, meron din ba kyong nakitang 2309 o 2809?wala po, pero meron 2805 o 2808 yata yun... not sure.
congrats sir ... i'm using the same model and color, got mine a year ago from sights & sounds on the first week that it became available here ... very satisfied with it ... btw, how much is it now?a tad below 27k
thanks guys, am very happy with he purchase, except that I am now broke. hehehe.
sir being broke is just the start of this hobby! ;D next time around you'll be sick of what they call SARS( severe audio replacement syndrome ). ;D
Question lang po..i've seen a denon 2310 with pre-outs at the back but when i checked it on the website there's no preouts??
i think i read something about asian/locally distributed 23 series units having pre-outs. si mikec ata yung nagbanggit nun dati.
Need some inputs just in case anyone has any ideas on what I'm doing wrong.
I have an AVR 1709 which I bought from amazon through one of our local importers. Its connected to a pair of TSi 100 and CS10 as fronts and 9.dfs as surrounds. Weird thing I noticed is that volume coming from the 1709 seems to be less powerful than my Philips HTIB. I notice this more when watching TV series in divx/xvid formats in stereo from an NMT usually sending audio signals through a coaxial cable. Although when watching 5.1 dts mkvs, volume is generally better, it is still lacking and I have a hard time fully hearing the dialog.
I don't think the speakers are too weak since I still do get a lot of oomph from explosion scenes and get ample volume when listening to stereo (2 channel) audio.
To give you an idea, I was watching American Idol and the volume was really weak and it couldn't fill the room even at maximum volume. Using the same NMT connected to my HTIB, volume is only at 10-15 out of 30 or 40 meaning than with the HTIB I'm only at 33-66 percent. I also tried connecting the NMT directly to the auxiliary input of the AVR via RCA cables and got similar results.
I haven't done audyssey calibration yet since location is still temporary. Will this have some kind of effect on the volume?
Hope anyone has some ideas on how to solve this.
na-set mo na ba yung max volume nya?
You need to calibrate your system so that the channel levels are set up properly. The simplest way to do that is by running Audyssey MultEQ on your AVR.
Is your problem "weak dialogue?" Can you describe where exactly you have located the center speaker?
try calibrating it using audyssey .
also how do you connect your source to the receiver?
dips15 are you using pro logic or neo for stereo sources? e.g. american idol?
btw for the volume naman, there is an option to choose (in my denon 1509) from -10db up to +12db (iirc).
No idea. Hehehe. I just assumed it would use pro logic automatically. Will check it out later.
-10 to +12 is the setting per channel right? I've already set them to +12.
The levels per channel should be set through Audyssey so that they are balanced.
There's another setting for input level per source. You can try to crank that up.
^Well that is another option.uy UP ko lang .. sana pwede :)
Question - ang remote ba ng entry level DEnon AVRs (1907) kaya mag control ng TV (Panny PV80)? I heard that some people use their AVR remote as a universal remote.
^Tinignan ko yung manual ng 1907 and meron mga TV codes. Sana nga gumana. Hanapin ko muna yung AVR remote ko. Been using Harmony, kaso nasira na :-[
Denon AVR Receivers for 2010
Ten New Receivers Offer A/V Enhancements and Advanced Technologies at Lower Prices
http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/10381/631089.html
Denon Electronics today announced its new line of advanced audio/video receivers with ten state-of-the-art offerings. The lineup features five new affordable, fully featured priced models in the company's popular Retail Home Theater Series line, with expected SRP and availability in parenthesis, including the AVR-991 (SRP: $999, July), AVR-891 (SRP: $799, May), AVR-791 (SRP: $499, May), AVR-591 (SRP: $349, May) and the AVR-391 (SRP: $249, July). These join two new, more advanced 7-channel Models, the AVR-1911 (SRP: $599, June), and AVR-1611 (SRP: $399, June). Also announced are Denon's three new "CI-class" receivers (see separate release) geared toward custom integrators, including the AVR-4311CI (SRP: $1,999, Sept.), AVR-3311CI (SRP: $1,199, June), and AVR-2311CI (SRP: $899, June). The new models will join Denon's AVR-4810CI (SRP: $2,999) and flagship AVR-5308CI (SRP: $5,500) in the company's renowned line of A/V receivers...
Wow, Paul, when do you think these receivers will arrive here? I hope in time for you know what! :) How about Onkyo?
na-set mo na ba yung max volume nya?
Now I understand what you mean by setting max volume. Hehehe. Figured this out already. Didin't know there was a max volume limiter. This has taught me how to read manuals.did it help? :)
Unfortunately NO. Tried it a couple of time -- well I actually tried all the codes in the manual. :-[
did it help? :)
Need some inputs just in case anyone has any ideas on what I'm doing wrong.
I have an AVR 1709 which I bought from amazon through one of our local importers. Its connected to a pair of TSi 100 and CS10 as fronts and 9.dfs as surrounds. Weird thing I noticed is that volume coming from the 1709 seems to be less powerful than my Philips HTIB. I notice this more when watching TV series in divx/xvid formats in stereo from an NMT usually sending audio signals through a coaxial cable. Although when watching 5.1 dts mkvs, volume is generally better, it is still lacking and I have a hard time fully hearing the dialog.
I don't think the speakers are too weak since I still do get a lot of oomph from explosion scenes and get ample volume when listening to stereo (2 channel) audio.
To give you an idea, I was watching American Idol and the volume was really weak and it couldn't fill the room even at maximum volume. Using the same NMT connected to my HTIB, volume is only at 10-15 out of 30 or 40 meaning than with the HTIB I'm only at 33-66 percent. I also tried connecting the NMT directly to the auxiliary input of the AVR via RCA cables and got similar results.
I haven't done audyssey calibration yet since location is still temporary. Will this have some kind of effect on the volume?
Hope anyone has some ideas on how to solve this.
... Grrrrrrrr!!!! Not sure what are the next steps to take. I am thinking of getting in touch with the Manager/Owner of Lotteworld to get a better explanation for this unfortunate incident. But I don't like the idea that I will end up getting a big paper weight from them when it was working almost perfectly when I sent it.
Digital input and analog input not working...WTF!!!...what am I supposed to do with an AVR that doesn't have any input/output capability!...
Hello mga peeps,
Yung Denon DVD-1910 ko 4 months na sa Lotteworld hindi pa narerepair hanggang ngayon. Wala pa raw parts for the Optical Head. Grabe naman. Ang mahal mahal ng product nila tapos ganito quality ng service. >:(
hi mga denon users. ask ko lang, cause im planning to change my receiver to a denon.
regarding dynamic volume, does it support all formats? like DTS, DD, etc.? thanks.
wag ! i came from an onkyo 608 i wasn't really satisfied. i now have a denon 2310. if anything goes wrong within the next year warranty. i plan to change it naman after 2 years or so before anything happens to it.
ganun ba sir? i am scouting for a new receiver w/ the DTS-MA and other audio ek,ek updates and been tempted to get the onkyo 608. currently i am using a denon 2308 which was bought in HK 2 1/2 years ago. i am very satisfied with it, did not experience any problems until now and never ever think about warranty ;D. although behind lang sa current BD audio fad. now i am worried maybe i replace the denon (made in japan pa naman to na unit) with a not so good receiver that falls within my budget and di ako masaya, gastos na naman ;D
thanks avshop nd les888. i will visit these shops when i drop by the metro.
the denon 2308 and 2310 should have the same power, tama ba? am i missing a lot of details in audio by using only dolby and dts aside from the dolby hd and dts-ma? at the moment, most of my source are mkv files with a few blurays.
Hardly any discernible difference between lossless and legacy audio, except with some concerts. That's based on a blind test we conducted 2 years ago.
I remember sir streetsmart saying that only the US models with CI can use the Audyssey Pro calibration software to balance the sound frequencies in your room. So make sure you get that 2310CI so you can take full advantage of the feature.
Although it's an additional $150 daw to get a license for your receiver, (then magic touch ni streetsmart) but sulit yan if you want accurate sound coming out of your speakers.
sir mark, is it safe to say na pwede na ito at di ko na kelangan mag upgrade? how about other features, mas updated na ba ang audessey sa 2310 model?
my bro will start building an HT and wants to acquire pre-owned gears. i may offer my denon at a dirt cheap price to him then i will upgrade to a better receiver but only within the denon 2310 and onkyo 608 price range.
If you want a Denon receiver that is "more or less" future-proof, I suggest you get the 3311. It has Audyssey MultEQ XT (XT is much better than plain-vanilla MultEQ), DSX (for wide speakers especially) and Dynamic EQ. In my view, these are the most critical components. Also, it has very good video processing. In terms of value for money, I think this is the best nowadays.
I remember sir streetsmart saying that only the US models with CI can use the Audyssey Pro calibration software to balance the sound frequencies in your room. So make sure you get that 2310CI so you can take full advantage of the feature.
Although it's an additional $150 daw to get a license for your receiver, (then magic touch ni streetsmart) but sulit yan if you want accurate sound coming out of your speakers. After hearing the difference Audyssey Pro calibration makes, I am eyeing to get a Denon CI model soon.
Planning stage pa lang so it depends sa end budget ko ;D
haha sadly I don't need that feature because I plan to use it for work in the studio, standard 5.1 and 7.1 lang. No recording studio mix in DSX yet :)
Brother Tirso, eto ang gusto ni Brother Ditoy: ;)
http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3922.asp (http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3922.asp)
(http://www.usa.denon.com/AVPA1HDCI_Large_Front.jpg)
Brother Ditoy, ok na an 4310! ;) ;)
haha binisto ako ni gaol! Yan actually ang target ko pero kelangan pa ng approval ng office haha! least scenario 4310CI na nga. Panay powered studio speakers kasi gamit ko so I need balanced XLR pre-outs which only the AV1HDCI has
The new planned studio is opening along Pasay road, 2nd building left ng Nihonbashi-tei under construction na. Marantz SR5003 and small room palang currently si Pearl drive studio ko but good enough for my work. Iba talaga ang Denon basta na-Audyssey Pro si sir streetsmart :)
huwawwwwww abay good good good oki nga rud
teka teka brader arn, baka naman ikaw na ang meron nyan ha malihim ka masyado ;D ;D ;D
haha binisto ako ni gaol! Yan actually ang target ko pero kelangan pa ng approval ng office haha! least scenario 4310CI na nga. Panay powered studio speakers kasi gamit ko so I need balanced XLR pre-outs which only the AV1HDCI has.
arn, 4310CI meron sa ebay ngayon 1 day remaining, selling less than $800 nakakatempt magbid kaso nanga-ngarap pa ako sa higher model ::)
Denon experts pa-consult naman. Mahal ba or reasonable ang 3808 na approx. 44K pesoss - Pre-Owned Mint.
Thanks!
has anyone tried denon 1611 and 1911? first hand review please :)Same question po. Which is better for music use denon 1611 or onkyo 508? TIA.
Mga bossing magkano ko kaya mabebenta ang avr-1909 (US, 110v) sa Pinas? 1 year old sya pero good as new condition.
Thanks!
I sold mine for 19k late last year, model is 789 which is basically the same as the 1909. HTH ;)
Just wanted to give an update on this...
Let me just to provide a background from my previous posts. I suddenly had problems with my 1907's Optical 1 input. There was no sound coming from that connection so stopped using it. Aside from that, everything was all OK. Optical 2 and 3 were working. Coax working and all RCA input are working. Around 3-4 weeks ago I decided to bring my 1907 to Lotteworld to have the Optical 1 fixed (so I can hook my PS3 again directly and enjoy digital sound).
I left my unit there for 2 weeks and kept calling for updates. Finally I was told that the Optical 1 input will no longer be fixed because of an IC that they didn't have in stock and it is too expensive if I were to have it fixed. So I agreed to just pull it out. I figured I lived without using Optical 1 so will just go ahead and do that. I picked up my unit and hooked up everything. I verified again that Optical 1 wasn't working but this time the Front L & R speaker connectors are not working as well (this wasn't a problem previously). Center speaker connector was working fine. I hooked up the left and right speakers to the center connector on the AVR and there was sound coming out (so it is the connector indeed). So I returned my unit to Lotteworld and explained to them the new problem. We tested it in their shop and they were able to verify the problem.
I just called Lotteworld again this morning and this is what they told me..."Sir, yung problema is yung DSP. Yung analog input nyo corrupted na din, meron na distortion". I re-verified if Optical 1 was fixed and it wasn't...I was expecting that. Then the technician added "Yung mga digital input nyo po corrupted na din dahil sa DSP". So I asked, "Pati Optical 2 adn Coaxial hindi ko na magagamit?". "Hindi na sir, pati yun affected na". I told the tech that that wasn't the case when I sent them the unit and he was saying that it was just a matter of time before the thing broke down and that the analog inputs will be the next one to go.
I am speechless, confused and irritated!!! Mainly because 1) I sent my unit working just fine...given that it had an Optical 1 problem everything else was working fine (Optical 2, Coax and analogs) but I will be getting it in a worst condition than I sent it for repair 2) I don't know if the problem was really with my AVR or they did something that messed it all up. And not they are pulling this "DSP ang problema and its just a matter of time bibigay din yan". Malay ko ba kung sila naka-sira and they are passing the problem to me with the BS excuse. In fact, they messed up my speaker connectors when i first pulled out my unit.
Grrrrrrrr!!!! Not sure what are the next steps to take. I am thinking of getting in touch with the Manager/Owner of Lotteworld to get a better explanation for this unfortunate incident. But I don't like the idea that I will end up getting a big paper weight from them when it was working almost perfectly when I sent it.
Digital input and analog input not working...WTF!!!...what am I supposed to do with an AVR that doesn't have any input/output capability!
If anyone has any idea for next steps I'd appreciate to hear from you.
i'm wondering when the 2010 models will surface sa market..
I plan to buy 1611 next week. Any reviews mga amigo? Choosing between onkyo 508 & denon 1611. Please help.. Thanks in advance.
Compare feature on feature, ask to audition the receivers if you get the chance ;)Thanks Sir blackie. I'll try to audition both unit. As for my preference, 50-50 ako music-movie. In this case, this is my first HT kaya i don't have any experience in setting up HT. I read a lot of reviews that onkyo 508 has a lot of negative feedback but denon 1611 wala pako masyado nababasa na mga review. Please give us feedback sa mga naka bili na ng 1611. Thanks.
That's normal. Although mine is HK160, same case tayo. I believe kasi yung HDMI passes audio and video kaya ganun. ;)
Pareho tayo ng prob ShogdGreat. I've been waiting for the Denon 1611 and 1911 to be out in the Philippine market so I can compare the prices with Onkyo's 508 and 608.
I've been reading some not-so-good feedback for the 508 at another forum that's why I'm considering the Denon 1611 as well.
Newbie here.. i was planning also to buy my first AVR and i am considering the onkyo508 & denon1611... from features point of view 508 have the edge.. but accroding to sir Vic (S&S), performance wise get the Denon1611.. :-\
got my 1911 + tsi300 + cs10 + mirage s10 from avshop. medyo kinakapa ko pa mga settings.
tama ba mga settings ko?
FL FR + Center = small
Bass setting:
LFE
120hz
crossover freq:
80hz
got my 1911 + tsi300 + cs10 + mirage s10 from avshop. medyo kinakapa ko pa mga settings.
tama ba mga settings ko?
FL FR + Center = small
Bass setting:
LFE
120hz
crossover freq:
80hz
got my 1911 + tsi300 + cs10 + mirage s10 from avshop. medyo kinakapa ko pa mga settings.
tama ba mga settings ko?
FL FR + Center = small
Bass setting:
LFE
120hz
crossover freq:
80hz
Yes, set all speakers to small and LFE at 120 Hz.
For crossover freq, the rule is that it should be equal or higher than what is recommended by Audyssey. Usually better to set it one click higher.
Hi sir streetsmart
Is the crossover freq is also applicable to b&w 684 and htm61? what would be the best setup for this speakers? i have 2808ci at 110 wpc. I got my amp about 3 days ago still exprimenting first time denon owner.. I appreciate you guys if can give more inputs bout these pairing of 2808 and b&w 600 series..
Thank you in advance for the advice! :)
Hi sir streetsmart
Is the crossover freq is also applicable to b&w 684 and htm61? what would be the best setup for this speakers? i have 2808ci at 110 wpc. I got my amp about 3 days ago still exprimenting first time denon owner.. I appreciate you guys if can give more inputs bout these pairing of 2808 and b&w 600 series..
Thank you in advance for the advice! :)
PM mo si toybeats... He had the chance to pair B&W 684 htm61 & Denon 2808CI last week. He tried all sort of tweaking, bi-ampling, etc.... Sabi nya bitin daw sa power ang 2808 vs. b&w nya as he can feel the speakers asking for more power. His volume is already set at 0db para lang audible yong dialog. Sayang nga daw kasi malinis tumunog ang 2808 kaya bitin sa B&W 684 nya. ;)
PM mo si toybeats... He had the chance to pair B&W 684 htm61 & Denon 2808CI last week. He tried all sort of tweaking, bi-ampling, etc.... Sabi nya bitin daw sa power ang 2808 vs. b&w nya as he can feel the speakers asking for more power. His volume is already set at 0db para lang audible yong dialog. Sayang nga daw kasi malinis tumunog ang 2808 kaya bitin sa B&W 684 nya. ;)
Just wanted to give an update on this...
Let me just to provide a background from my previous posts. I suddenly had problems with my 1907's Optical 1 input. There was no sound coming from that connection so stopped using it. Aside from that, everything was all OK. Optical 2 and 3 were working. Coax working and all RCA input are working. Around 3-4 weeks ago I decided to bring my 1907 to Lotteworld to have the Optical 1 fixed (so I can hook my PS3 again directly and enjoy digital sound).
I left my unit there for 2 weeks and kept calling for updates. Finally I was told that the Optical 1 input will no longer be fixed because of an IC that they didn't have in stock and it is too expensive if I were to have it fixed. So I agreed to just pull it out. I figured I lived without using Optical 1 so will just go ahead and do that. I picked up my unit and hooked up everything. I verified again that Optical 1 wasn't working but this time the Front L & R speaker connectors are not working as well (this wasn't a problem previously). Center speaker connector was working fine. I hooked up the left and right speakers to the center connector on the AVR and there was sound coming out (so it is the connector indeed). So I returned my unit to Lotteworld and explained to them the new problem. We tested it in their shop and they were able to verify the problem.
I just called Lotteworld again this morning and this is what they told me..."Sir, yung problema is yung DSP. Yung analog input nyo corrupted na din, meron na distortion". I re-verified if Optical 1 was fixed and it wasn't...I was expecting that. Then the technician added "Yung mga digital input nyo po corrupted na din dahil sa DSP". So I asked, "Pati Optical 2 adn Coaxial hindi ko na magagamit?". "Hindi na sir, pati yun affected na". I told the tech that that wasn't the case when I sent them the unit and he was saying that it was just a matter of time before the thing broke down and that the analog inputs will be the next one to go.
I am speechless, confused and irritated!!! Mainly because 1) I sent my unit working just fine...given that it had an Optical 1 problem everything else was working fine (Optical 2, Coax and analogs) but I will be getting it in a worst condition than I sent it for repair 2) I don't know if the problem was really with my AVR or they did something that messed it all up. And not they are pulling this "DSP ang problema and its just a matter of time bibigay din yan". Malay ko ba kung sila naka-sira and they are passing the problem to me with the BS excuse. In fact, they messed up my speaker connectors when i first pulled out my unit.
Grrrrrrrr!!!! Not sure what are the next steps to take. I am thinking of getting in touch with the Manager/Owner of Lotteworld to get a better explanation for this unfortunate incident. But I don't like the idea that I will end up getting a big paper weight from them when it was working almost perfectly when I sent it.
Digital input and analog input not working...WTF!!!...what am I supposed to do with an AVR that doesn't have any input/output capability!
If anyone has any idea for next steps I'd appreciate to hear from you.
PM mo si toybeats... He had the chance to pair B&W 684 htm61 & Denon 2808CI last week. He tried all sort of tweaking, bi-ampling, etc.... Sabi nya bitin daw sa power ang 2808 vs. b&w nya as he can feel the speakers asking for more power. His volume is already set at 0db para lang audible yong dialog. Sayang nga daw kasi malinis tumunog ang 2808 kaya bitin sa B&W 684 nya. ;)
Scary naman eto ::) Isolated case, perhaps?
Actually, it's not uncommon to hear complaints about Lotteworld. At the minimum, mabagal sila. At worst, you're not sure about their competence.
Ganun ba? ::) Sayang naman. They're the exclusive distro of Denon in the Phil., correct?
Is it common for Denon to make different versions of the same model but sold in different regions? ie, asian vs. US.
I saw a 3311ci online for about $800 :o
Insofar as I know, the main difference between the Denon models is that some US versions may be calibrated by an Audyssey installer. Those are the versions with "CI" which means "Custom Installer."
Oh ok, I got that impression kasi when Marc (avshop) told me that the 2310 sold locally has preouts while the US version doesnt have?
Locally bought 3311 doesnt have the "ci" at the end of the model number.
The correct crossover frequency of a speaker is dependent not only on the characteristic of the speaker itself but also the placement of the speaker and the acoustics of the room. After you run the Audyssey setup, it will give a recommended minimum crossover frequency. You can use that or you can increase the frequency (but don't lower it). Just experiment and choose what you prefer.
If you have a subwoofer and one or more of your speakers has been detected as "Large," change that setting to "Small" and then adjust the crossover frequency, similar to above.
Thank you mga bossing sa mga inputs! ;D, with regards sa power for me its loud enough di naman masyado malaki room ko. Im just concern about the desired crossover frequency as sir streetsmart was saying will try first to calibrate then make some adjustment..
Good luck sa akin ;D.. will give some feedbacks.. btw i got my 2808ci at user electrohaus_lp at 38k is it a good buy? galing sya US floor display daw ung unit pero in hours of testing ok na ok naman 2808.. again good luck sa akin! ;)
Ok yan and mabait pa yan si sir Kelly ;)
Thank you mga bossing sa mga inputs! ;D, with regards sa power for me its loud enough di naman masyado malaki room ko. Im just concern about the desired crossover frequency as sir streetsmart was saying will try first to calibrate then make some adjustment..
Good luck sa akin ;D.. will give some feedbacks.. btw i got my 2808ci at user electrohaus_lp at 38k is it a good buy? galing sya US floor display daw ung unit pero in hours of testing ok na ok naman 2808.. again good luck sa akin! ;)
Hi, is the 'CI' indicated on the front panel of the unit next to 2808? Just curious because i dont have it mine although the box has it with 2808ci. I bought mine locally 2years ago and never thought about it until now. :-[
Insofar as I know, I am the only Audyssey Pro calibrator in the Philippines. ;D
Ayan naman pala eh ;D
So how does one pay the $150 calibration license? ........and more importantly, how much does the only pro calibrator in the philippines charges? ;D
If your unit came from the US (110 volts), it's likely a CI unit.
Let me be clearer about what "CI" means in practice -- It means you can have your Denon AVR calibrated by a professional using Audyssey Pro. That is basically a much more sophisticated version of the Audyssey MultEQ calibration because it uses an individually calibrated and very accurate microphone, can do 32 mic positions, can select the target curve (depending mainly on the size of your room) and can create a filter which is optimized for your specific crossover.
In order to do this, you need a professional Audyssey calibrator who will purchase the license for you and then do the actual calibration, using his equipment. The cost of the license is $150, cost of calibration varies.
Insofar as I know, I am the only Audyssey Pro calibrator in the Philippines. ;D
For the other charges, sa US, calibrators usually charge $300. Ako ... ewan ko pa. Siguro kung si Venus Raj, libre. ;D ;D
Ayan naman pala eh ;D
So how does one pay the $150 calibration license? ........and more importantly, how much does the only pro calibrator in the philippines charges? ;D
Sir Question, pwede bang gamitan ng Audyssey and ibang AVR gaya ng Yamaha?
Sir, suggestion lang, have you tried removing replugging the speaker wires? Or baka naman yung polarity nung mga nakakabit na speaker wires?
I saw a 3311ci online for about $800 :o
out of phase? :( hmmm .... weird kasi ang idea ko is ibabaligad mo palng speaker polarity dapat ayus na yan ......
is the center speaker brand new? i mean hindi naman kaya na tampered internal niya?
sir, i've ran audyssey many times with my current system and never have encountered out of phase problem. unfortunately, by just changing to a new center speaker (w/ dual 6.5" drivers) the problem arise.
thinkin of gettin the 3310. mura na e. is $200+ price diff to the 3311 worth it?
hello guys,
im using denon 1910, tatanong ko lang sa mga fellow denon users, naka on ba yung dynamic range volume niyo? sakin kasi naka on tapus naka set sa day para mas malinaw yung voice sa center, kasi pag naka off medyo mahina ang voice.. thanks po sa reply.
btw im using polk audio cs10 center, then auto configuration ng audyssey is L/C/R/SR/SL -5/-5/-5/0/+2. what i did is yun center ginawa kong -1 :D
mga masters,
biglang nawala ang Audyssey MultEQ na naka highlight dati sa screen ng denon 2308 ko. di ko rin mahanap ang audyssey selection sa Room Equalization settings, ON and OFF nalang. is there a way to restore the previously stored Auto Cal or i have to re-run Audyssey again? the speaker setup eg. distance, db, x-over & etc are still intact except for the Audyssey light not appearing anymore on the receiver's screen.
thanks
San ko kaya pwede dispose and Denon 1907 ko. Usable pa naman sa analog, sabi sa Lotte World sira na daw ang digital input (toslink and optical). But the analog inputs and everything else is working perfectly. Sayang naman kung ibenta lang sa bote dyaryo.
mahal po ba ang mag pagawa sayang naman baka pwede pagawa then benta
hello guys,
im using denon 1910, tatanong ko lang sa mga fellow denon users, naka on ba yung dynamic range volume niyo? sakin kasi naka on tapus naka set sa day para mas malinaw yung voice sa center, kasi pag naka off medyo mahina ang voice.. thanks po sa reply.
btw im using polk audio cs10 center, then auto configuration ng audyssey is L/C/R/SR/SL -5/-5/-5/0/+2. what i did is yun center ginawa kong -1 :D
safe po ba 120hz ung crossover frequency sa lahat ng speakers?
Thanks!
Normally, you can set Audyssey MultEQ on or off. Sounds like it is off now so just turn it on. You don't have to re-run MultEQ.
hi sir mark, i have checked the "room equalization" menu, di pala ON and OFF kundi "ON and Manual" nalang ang selection ngayon. before when audyssey was ON, there were few selections like ON, Manual, Audyssey bypass L/R and Audyssey Flat. now, dunno what to do other than re-run audessey but will wait muna your reply.
thanks
"Manual" means that Audyssey is OFF. With "Manual", you can use a 6-band (I think) parametric equalizer which is a very poor substitute for Audyssey MultEQ.
ano po the best crossover freq for all speakers (except LFE)?
LFE=120hz
fronts=?
surrounds?
Thanks!
Mga Bossing,kasama ba ang 1509?
Napansin ko lang po na parang maraming quality issues sa denon receivers particularly sa mid to lower end units that came out in the past 3 years.
Is this becoming a generalization for denon's build quality? :-\
just have a noob question here.pag binago ung settings like ung crossover freq and volume on each speakers after ng audessey calibration kailangan ba naka ON ung Dynamic volume (dyn eq: ON) and MultiEQ nakaset sa audessey? ano po ba recommended settings. ;Dturn off dynamic volume.
so bale master, set the multiEQ to audessey then dynamicEQ to OFF? ok lang po ba yun?
for late night viewing and you dont want to disturb anyone, turn ON Dynamic Volume and dynamic EQ ON dapat para maski tahimik maganda parin ang tunog.
check out the link i provided below. just to have an idea how dynamic volume works ;)
eto naman sa Audyssey Dynamic EQ
(http://www.audyssey.com/technology/dynamiceq.html)
Ang galing dynamic EQ! Kaso wala yung 2808ci ko Multi EQ XT lang :'(... Medyo na iskandalo mga kapit bahay hehe ;D
Ang galing dynamic EQ! Kaso wala yung 2808ci ko Multi EQ XT lang :'(... Medyo na iskandalo mga kapit bahay hehe ;Dmeron yan bro ;D
Ang galing dynamic EQ! Kaso wala yung 2808ci ko Multi EQ XT lang :'(... Medyo na iskandalo mga kapit bahay hehe ;D
meron yan bro ;D
Sir wala sa face ng AVR eh, wala rin ako nabasa sa manual hehe san kaya nakatago to!?! ??? nakita ko lang talaga Multi EQ..
Yeah, unfortunately dynamic EQ and dynamic Volume is not in 2808CI... :-\mukhang wala nga. sorry did not have enough time to research, 2809CI pala yung nabasa ko, my bad :-\
Hi peeps! :) I notice that some Denon receivers, during setting up or calibration, they can seem to view details on the LCD screen. Why can't I? How is it connected? I own a 1509...can it be done with this receiver? ???
Up ko lang to for advice... ;Dhi martin, ill ask joel to try this. :)
Up ko lang to for advice... ;D
Di ko rin napalabas sa Denon 789 yong UI sa LCD brader pero sa higher model like 2808, 3806 at 4306 wala namang problema, pagpindot mo ng menu kita agad sa LCD.bro denon 789 ba ang counterpart ng 1509?
bro denon 789 ba ang counterpart ng 1509?
higher model pala sya weird :D.
i swear i was able to use the gui via 1509. or was it another receiver? ;D
martin pm avshop and ask him what i auditioned .. IIRC 1 onkyo, 2 denons and 1 hk. but that was last year bro :-\
hope he remembers :D
Delikado pang-salubong yan sir.
Diyan madalas masira ang speakers. Pag sobrang taas na ng volume, nagkakaroon na pala ng grabeng distortion, hindi mo pa napapansin kasi busy sa celebration.
Mapapansin mong may damage ang speakers mo, January 2, 2011 na :D.
Delikado pang-salubong yan sir.
Diyan madalas masira ang speakers. Pag sobrang taas na ng volume, nagkakaroon na pala ng grabeng distortion, hindi mo pa napapansin kasi busy sa celebration.
Mapapansin mong may damage ang speakers mo, January 2, 2011 na :D.
Boss what are the signs of damaged speakers?
Medyo first timer kasi kami sa mga HT systems ;)
Hi peeps! :) I notice that some Denon receivers, during setting up or calibration, they can seem to view details on the LCD screen. Why can't I? How is it connected? I own a 1509...can it be done with this receiver? ???
di kaya yan ng amp mo. yung higher models kaya. 1609 yung akin and wala din on screen display.
Happy new YEAR to all! ;)
May tanung lang ako, I have Denon 2808 AVR, Mission floorstander, Mission Center and Mission Surround Speaker. Can you recommend a setting sa AVR para magamit ko mamaya during salubong? Nag try ako play disco music increase the volume pero hindi ko ma feel ang bayo. Walang base :D
you need a sub. depending on your budget, you can contact pilyo for a diy or mikec for an SVS ;)OT: san na pala yung mga diy mo bro? :D
OT: san na pala yung mga diy mo bro? :D
massive enclosures din yung mga yun eh :)
That sucks brader Rasta! :( Upgrade...? :D
yan din iniisip ko. pero wag muna. maybe near the end of the year or early next.
there are so much new innovations to come out sa ating mga entry level avr's.
hdmi1.4, ethernet (internet radio), iphone as remote control, etc.
kung merong mga ganito then it's worth the upgrade. pero it's more exciting for me to just wait and see what are the next big things. so far ok naman receivers natin e :D
Is it true that for music lovers, Denon is the AVR of choice (70% music, 30% movies)?
And saan ba nakakabili ng Denon?
sabi sabi lang yan, and the description kinda caught on. ;D Who can really say say what "musical" is, right? ;D if i'm not mistaken, 1 of the resident sellers was the first to review the top 3 receivers and he pitted them against each other (denon, onkyo, HK). and HK ended up as the winner for being the most musical. denon coming in a close second.
I just read lang kahapon a Denon was compared to its similar Onkyo model and though they both sound superb sa movies, slightly better ang SQ ng Denon using the same setup. So you mean HK is even better for music?
Is it true that for music lovers, Denon is the AVR of choice (70% music, 30% movies)?
And saan ba nakakabili ng Denon?
Is it true that for music lovers, Denon is the AVR of choice (70% music, 30% movies)?
And saan ba nakakabili ng Denon?
Mukhang papunta 1911 ang HT build-up ko ah. Any views about this model compared to other 30K'ish ones?
still using both of them. they blend well with the SVS speakers ;)nice. akala ko dispose mo na :)
I just read lang kahapon a Denon was compared to its similar Onkyo model and though they both sound superb sa movies, slightly better ang SQ ng Denon using the same setup. So you mean HK is even better for music?character na daw kasi ng mga receiver yun. :)
It all depends on your preference and your gear. List your "must have" features, and the "good to have" ones. Identify the models that would fit your needs. Listen to them all, if it's possible... then decide. :)
The 1911 would usually be pitted against the Onkyo 608 as they are in the same price range and I think that these are the two most popular receivers for HT.
For Denon - Has Audyssey MultEQ compared to 2EQ for Onkyo
- Supposedly more musical but this a bit subjective
For Onkyo - On paper has 10 more watts per channel but could actually be more based on the Onkyo's larger electric current demand.
- THX Select2 Plus certified
What is not seen on paper is that you have to match the receiver with the speakers that you will actually use in order to arrive at the desired sound quality.
For Denon - Has Audyssey MultEQ compared to 2EQ for Onkyo
- Supposedly more musical but this a bit subjective
For Onkyo - On paper has 10 more watts per channel but could actually be more based on the Onkyo's larger electric current demand.
- THX Select2 Plus certified
diba onkyo advertised their rated power at 2 channel driven and not all 7 channels. if so, what do you think is the actual power if all 7 channels driven?
i own a denon but forgot to check if their claim is also the same, 2 channel driven only.
i want to upgrade my receiver to onkyo but with the budget i have looks like i will only a side grade (power wise) :D. there are lots of new features available now that i do not need like hd audio (after reading the a/b test about a minimal to no difference than conventional dd/dts audio), 3d, networked unit & etc. all i'm interested is the front height speaker which is not available in my receiver now.
what do you guys think about getting a new onkyo receiver with the same power rating of a denon?
Home theater Magazine August 2010 tested the Onkyo 608( rated at 100 Watts per Channel at 8 Ohms) to have an actual output of 30.9 watts x 7 channels at 0.1% distortion and 40.1 watts x 7 channels at 1% distortion. All at 8 ohms.bumping :)
Does anyone know if denon amps produce power near their rated specs?
Home theater Magazine August 2010 tested the Onkyo 608( rated at 100 Watts per Channel at 8 Ohms) to have an actual output of 30.9 watts x 7 channels at 0.1% distortion and 40.1 watts x 7 channels at 1% distortion. All at 8 ohms.
Does anyone know if denon amps produce power near their rated specs?
Home theater Magazine August 2010 tested the Onkyo 608( rated at 100 Watts per Channel at 8 Ohms) to have an actual output of 30.9 watts x 7 channels at 0.1% distortion and 40.1 watts x 7 channels at 1% distortion. All at 8 ohms.
Does anyone know if denon amps produce power near their rated specs?
It might be less since the power consumption of Denon is less compared to the Onkyo.
This is normal. The power ratings of AVR's are usually for 2-channel only. They have a single power supply which all channels share. Therefore, when you run multi-channel, the average available power per channel drops dramatically.
On the other hand, movies normally do not have all channels going full-blast at the same time. The surrounds are usually more quiet than the fronts.
Home Theater Mag measures the following Denons thus:
Denon AVR-2311ci rated at 105wpc
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 83.3 watts
1% distortion at 91.5 watts
Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 66.3 watts
1% distortion at 74.7 watts
Denon AVR-4310ci rated at 130wpc (my current AVR)
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 113.8 watts
1% distortion at 131.0 watts
Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 104.6 watts
1% distortion at 116.6 watts
-- Sound and Vision Mag has almost similar measurements for the Denon AVR-4310ci at 5 channels and 7 channels driven.
Denon AVR-4810ci rated at 140wpc
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1 percent distortion at 123.5 watts
1 percent distortion at 148.2 watts
Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads: ***
0.1 percent distortion at 30.9 watts
1 percent distortion at 36.0 watts (Protection Engages)
*** Apparently this one has an Auto Protection Circuit that engages when the AVR is pushed to its limits at 7channels driven. But as streetsmart mentioned, all channels driven to the max is a rare occurrence in real life viewing.
Just what I was looking for thanks gaol! ;D
What issue or month was the 2311 tested?
Less power consumption doesn't always equate to less power output. Efficiency is the key.I have an amp which draws less current but produces more power than my other amp which draws more current.
That's why I said "might". My experience with Denon is I first purchased a Denon 1611 receiver from Sights and Sounds contrary to the advice of one of the salesmen that the Onkyo counterpart 508 was more powerful. When I got home indeed the 1611 was weak. I returned it immediately and chose the Onkyo 608 over the Denon 1911 based on my internet research that the receiver with a higher power consumption would more likely pump in more watts to the speakers. Anyway the Onkyo 608 produces 80 watts with 5 channels being driven so that is enough for me as I have no intention to use 7 channels in my bedroom. I can't find any measured output figures for the Denon 1911 and 1611 online."My experience with Denon is I first purchased a Denon 1611 receiver from Sights and Sounds contrary to the advice of one of the salesmen that the Onkyo counterpart 508 was more powerful." I agree bro. At first im eyeing on Denon but when we test both onkyo 508 and denon 1611, I found that 508 is far apart than 1611 that's why i go home with my new onkyo 508.
Im now having second thoughts on the Denon. Power wise, it may be a bit weaker than the Onkyo counter part. Haizz sobrang tagal na ng window shopping ko... :(
Which model were you planning on? I've listened to a Denon 2311 and it sounded quite good (with an all Klipsch set-up at Spectra) and the specs from earlier posts confirm the good power available.
Mga Tsip, can someone enlighten about the quality of Denon 3808 as a standalone multi-channel AVR. I think the owners (in this board) of this high-level AVR are mostly using pre-out for the fronts. However, I have no plans of piggy backing an AVR to a power amp so I hope to get some feedback as to how this particular model can be expected to perform on its own in a 5.1 configuration.
Reason for asking: I just found a rather attractive deal somewhere near, and I've been itching to see "DTS-HD" or "TrueHD" indications in my TV room. Hehehe. And I've been wondering why Denons in general are lighter compared to other brands...even the volume knobs are light. ;)
Thank you!
try mo recalibrate then adjust mo yung volume per channel ganun ginawa ko sakin. ;D
try mo recalibrate then adjust mo yung volume per channel ganun ginawa ko sakin. ;D
mga sirs,
malaki ba ang improvement sa system ko kung mag add ng power amp like a Rotel RB-985 (THX certified) 5-Channel Power Amplifier with 5 x 100w rms at 8 ohms? i'm using a denon 2308 with 7 x 100w (daw??). i know it does not deliver that much in real world. gusto ko lang malaman kung talagang night and day ang improvement niya na makalimutan ko ang ginastos dahil sa saya ;D
thanks
Quick question lang mga bros, may nakakaexperience ba ng parang low volume level sa Denon? Yung tipong kelangan mo i-crank up ng husto ung volume knob just to get decent sound? Para kasing sa Onkyo ganon.
It will really depend on the amplifier's actual watts per channel and the speaker's sensitivity. Were you listening in stereo, 5.1 or 7.1 channel mode? How big is the room?
Tried on 5 and 2 channels only, no sub. About sensitivity not sure because the speakers used were from an old minicomp.
The room is about 4 x 4 meters, with lots of objects all around.
got some pm and text that the power amp did not do much better than the receiver's amp. we all know that the receivers actual power is below rated.
did anyone bench test the power amps if they actually delivers their rated power?
If the speakers came from a mini-component then check if the impedance is 8 ohms or 4 ohms. If it's 4 ohms then your receiver will have to be capable of driving 4 ohm speakers, if not then you run the chance of overheating and damaging the receiver. That could also be the reason why the receiver is having a hard time driving the speakers.
To give you an idea, during the Hifi show last November, the HT room of AV Driver had a Denon A100 amp, which is rated at 140 wpc for 9 channels. The actual rating for all channels driven is much lower than that. Nonetheless, it was driving 7 speakers very loud in a big room. Wala problema. It sounded beautiful.
A Denon 3808 is an excellent AVR, including its power amps. As long as your room is not that big or you don't listen too loud, you should be fine.
Thanks Streetsmart. Which do you think is the better buy, a $700 display unit Denon 3808 (it's practically new) or a brand new Onkyo 1008 for $900? Thanks again.
Thanks Streetsmart. Which do you think is the better buy, a $700 display unit Denon 3808 (it's practically new) or a brand new Onkyo 1008 for $900? Thanks again.
Thanks Streetsmart. Which do you think is the better buy, a $700 display unit Denon 3808 (it's practically new) or a brand new Onkyo 1008 for $900? Thanks again.
I didn't realize that the Onkyo 1008 has only Audyssey MultEQ, not MultEQ XT. Big difference in favor of the Denon 3808.
If you have the Denon 3808 and you want 3D, get a 3D player which has 2 HDMI outputs - one for the TV (video) and the other for the AVR (audio). Ang alam ko ay maraming player with 2 HDMI outputs, precisely to solve the issue you're facing.
Question mga master. Kailangan ba naka 12 o'clock yung volume knob ng subwoofer pag mag audessey calibration?
Question mga master. Kailangan ba naka 12 o'clock yung volume knob ng subwoofer pag mag audessey calibration?
Question mga master. Kailangan ba naka 12 o'clock yung volume knob ng subwoofer pag mag audessey calibration?
Yung center mo nalang baguhin mo if parang kulang sau ung volume then pag kulang lahat add ka nalang ng +2db sa lahat depende sau.hehe
sa ibang brand ba ng avr like onkyo or yamaha, mahina din ba ang center volume? kailangan din ba dagdagan atleast 2db or more para marinig ang voice? tia
sa ibang brand ba ng avr like onkyo or yamaha, mahina din ba ang center volume? kailangan din ba dagdagan atleast 2db or more para marinig ang voice? tia
The source plays a real vital role on the sound output of not only the center speaker, but the whole set-up. :)
How is the quality of the current Denon receivers? Nakabasa kasi ako ng review na low quality yung mga parts na ginagamit nila. Dahil ba sa made in China sila?
Almost everything is made in China nowadays. Can you point to the source of the review that you read?
This is correct. The video source is really important. That is why I shy away from crappy movie downloads, I rather buy BDs or very good quality jacksparrow, pag less than 1GB kse ang mga files pansin ko, di maganda yung audio output parang 2.0 lang sya.
Re: center speaker, I used to have some irritation with my previous set-up, even after calibration, I still need to increase the center volume by 2-4 dbs. May be this is due to the speaker-avr combination? But now, I rarely adjust the center volume, again, depende sa source or movie... :)
But I haver never seen a china made ONKYO unlke Denon which almost all new models are from china.
I've pasted here the review of the 3805:
Summary:
I've read a lot of positive reviews so when I had a chance to buy it for cheap as defective I didn't hesitate to shell out $100 - why not? I was thinking that the chance of repairing it was slim but all the problem was $0.01 thermal fuse within power transformer and just shorting it I got fully working 3805 five minutes later I opened the cover.
Well, let's see what inside. Many components especially power caps are pathetic! How do they think these tiny caps will be able to provide any current to drive 7X120W amps? I have Sony TA N77ES power amp and it has 4 (four) BIGGER caps in just pre-drive section, not to mention 6 monster caps which provide current for 2X120W output cascades.
Back to Denon - cheap and thin printed boards, caps are OK - ELNA, nickel plated cheap RCA sockets, all the decoding circuits fit the cigarette pack size printed board which is not even shielded. Most of the corners are cut literally. I was thinking that $1500.00 list price receiver should have more than just 3 gilded sockets (I'm not even sure that three front RCA sockets are gilded on this Denon - the yellow color is suspicious). Well let's stop chuckling and start listening.
First it requires some setup... I'd like to remind Denon engineers that we are living in XXI century and even $30.00 Chinese DVD players have color menu with some graphics - 3805 brings us back to DOS - black screen with white letters in 320X240 resolution. Menus are complicated and not intuitive. Some of the settings require pressing of "<" button instead of central "ENTER" button which can infuriate most patient user. I have very complicated system and I'm complication junkie but this is beyond my patience. The remote sucks - almost unreadable in daylight and to understand what mode is turned on now you have to carefully review rows and rows of tiny inscriptions which haven't any borders to distinguish one from another.
Display is laughable - cheap greenish color looks so unsophisticated and
OK, initial settings done at last and... the sound is as pathetic as power caps. Thin and lacking bass even in stereo mode. I don't know what reviewers were comparing it to but this Denon was easily beaten by 1989 Sony STR-D2020 and 1997 Technics SA-TX30 receivers I have in other rooms. I'm not even mentioning Sony TA-N55ES and TA-N77ES amps which eat this Denon for breakfast. My front 60 lbs each, four feet front channel towers each with two 10" woofers ($2300.00 list price) mated with this Denon sounded almost the same as small shelf speakers I use for surround. After spending hours trying to understand menus I discovered that auto setup rolled off bass quite significantly but restoring EQ to flat and even using direct and pure direct (whatever they meant!) modes didn't help much. The bass just still is not there - it's OK for artifical movie explosions and helicopter blades but tight, solid, rolling bass of well recorded musical instrument just don't comes out of this Denon.
Video section is good but when I tried to make some video recordings through it I discovered that rec out setup is absolutely stupid and frustrating to use. Moreover, rec out audio doesn't output the converted digital signal! - only analog inputs. Rec out is united with Zone 2 output and this complicates setup even more. To simply make a copy from one VCR to another requires complicated rec out setup procedure and often it's easier to reconnect the cables than to search for this function in complicated manual because it's impossible to memorize or find it intuitively.
Then I discovered that it can't downconvert component video. It can upconvert any video input (composite or s-video) to component which is OK but why they didn't add couple of ICs to downconvert component video is puzzling.
To the attention of Denon engineers - I have Sony preamp which has input renaming function and it was made back in 1989...Here we are almost 20 years later and Denon folks haven't figured out how to include extra 2 kilobytes of memory and couple of strings of commands in microcontroller code to ease the life of user who has to scratch his head recalling what he connected to DBS input. I have 3XVCRs, LD and DVD players justconnecting and using them is a pain in the...
Speaker terminals are very cheap - I seen a better terminals on $100 Chinese home theaters in a box. Too small for any decent cables, can't connect spades.
Overall it is very complicated and not user friendly. Dispaly and remote are hard to read and understand.
Can't recommend it especially for list price.
Strengths:
Decent video section though it lacks downconverting.
56 tuner presets though octal system is stupid
Upconverts video signals but not downconverts component video
Weaknesses:
Sound is OK only for cheap action movies but it just can't play music
Inputs can't be renamed
Manual is just a list of functions and doesn't help much explaining what they are for.
Not flexible for interconnecting and interacting components
Rec out mode is overcomplicated even for overcomplication junkie
Cheap speaker terminals
Complicated menus
Stupid octal tuner preset system
Worthless and user unfriendly remote
Good day mga masters ;Dkagawad me and martin are satisfied 1509 users. according to jeff (TW) 1509 has an ipod dock support advantage over 1508 and thats it, everything else is identical. :D
I was just wondering if you have any feedbacks regarding 1508 or 1708? I believe the 1708 is higher than 1508?
I Googled both, but was hoping you guys could share any user experience or heard any feedbacks and comments (good or bad) regarding both models.
Maraming Salamat po ;)
Good day mga masters ;D
I was just wondering if you have any feedbacks regarding 1508 or 1708? I believe the 1708 is higher than 1508?
I Googled both, but was hoping you guys could share any user experience or heard any feedbacks and comments (good or bad) regarding both models.
Maraming Salamat po ;)
kagawad me and martin are satisfied 1509 users. according to jeff (TW) 1509 has an ipod dock support advantage over 1508 and thats it, everything else is identical. :D
Thanks Jamy ;) So you and brader Mart have '09 models pala, thus making the 1508 and 1708 as previous year models - tama?
Sa first 2 numbers naman - the higher the number the more features?
Kagawad...I own a 1509 like brader Jams. There is a downside to the 1509 which I receintly found out. Please see reference review below:
Denon’s latest entry-level receiver is the AVR-1509 (reviewed here exclusively), which forms part of a four-strong range with the more expensive AVR-2809, AVR-2309 and AVR-1909. These three other models all feature decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio, but the affordably-priced AVR-1509 only decodes Dolby Digital and DTS, making it better suited to systems based on a DVD player rather than a Blu-ray deck.
On the design front, Denon certainly hasn’t cut any corners to reach a tempting price point. It’s a big, monster of a machine, available in black or Premium Silver, and our silver sample looks very classy. No less than three knobs adorn the front (source select, volume and a menu control dial, and they’re accompanied by all the buttons you need to control your system up-close. A decent-sized display dominates the fascia, with large illuminated digits that show the audio format being received, input source and the volume.
The AVR-1509’s entry-level price doesn’t mean that it skimps on connections, but you are more limited in what you can do with them. The inclusion of two HDMI v1.3 inputs on the rear is an obvious highlight, allowing you to switch between two HD video sources, which is a godsend if your TV only sports one HDMI input. However, the unit only passes the video signal and sound through to your TV and won’t decode Dolby Digital or DTS bitstreams carried over an HDMI connection. It also doesn’t feature 1080p upscaling of SD video sources, so if you need either of these features then you’ll need to step-up to the AVR-1909, 2309 or 2809.
Full review
http://www.trustedreviews.com/home-cinema/review/2008/09/12/Denon-AVR-1509-AV-Receiver/p1
I don't know if it's the same for the 1508, but nonetheless, I wanted to share it with you brader. :)
Thanks brader Mart - yeah, I kinda expected the same with the 1508 and 1708. No audio via HDMI and only DD/DTS via optical or coax connection. With the quoted price I was given, I guess thats to be expected.
BTW - how does the SVS s-series sounds with the Denon? Got any chance of hearing it with other brands like Onkyo, Marantz, Yammy, HK, et al?
Thanks brader Mart - yeah, I kinda expected the same with the 1508 and 1708. No audio via HDMI and only DD/DTS via optical or coax connection. With the quoted price I was given, I guess thats to be expected.
BTW - how does the SVS s-series sounds with the Denon? Got any chance of hearing it with other brands like Onkyo, Marantz, Yammy, HK, et al?
kagawad, for you dapat atleast 23xx ang gamit mo... ;)
here is the latest:
http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?Catid=3d9614d1-8000-4106-ab91-8192242cab83&SubId=40b5820d-83c2-4e93-9909-60aae60e0bdd&ProductId=548d1dfb-79a7-4e9e-bc6f-c66f86ba4c9f (http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?Catid=3d9614d1-8000-4106-ab91-8192242cab83&SubId=40b5820d-83c2-4e93-9909-60aae60e0bdd&ProductId=548d1dfb-79a7-4e9e-bc6f-c66f86ba4c9f)
2311 is the latest model.
Thanks brader Mart - yeah, I kinda expected the same with the 1508 and 1708. No audio via HDMI and only DD/DTS via optical or coax connection. With the quoted price I was given, I guess thats to be expected.
BTW - how does the SVS s-series sounds with the Denon? Got any chance of hearing it with other brands like Onkyo, Marantz, Yammy, HK, et al?
kagawad, for you dapat atleast 23xx ang gamit mo... ;)
here is the latest:
http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?Catid=3d9614d1-8000-4106-ab91-8192242cab83&SubId=40b5820d-83c2-4e93-9909-60aae60e0bdd&ProductId=548d1dfb-79a7-4e9e-bc6f-c66f86ba4c9f (http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?Catid=3d9614d1-8000-4106-ab91-8192242cab83&SubId=40b5820d-83c2-4e93-9909-60aae60e0bdd&ProductId=548d1dfb-79a7-4e9e-bc6f-c66f86ba4c9f)
Salamat kagawad ;)
However, this is not for my HT ;D Para sa xbox gaming ko lang sa attic. ;D
If its for my HT, I wouldnt go lower than either a 3311 or 4311 ;)
now you're talking ;D
hi end talaga gamit mo sir. pang xbox lng sayo ang kaya namin :)
i'm using 2308 with the S series speakers. it sounds good naman although have not compared it to other brands. the 2308 should be similar to the 2311 powerwise, minus the hd audio ek,ek and stuff.
2307 yung sa demo area ko ... it was enought to convince quite a number of people :D
the 23 series has a nice balance of $:power:preout
same pala receiver natin sir. kaya pala totoo ang mga comments nila sa S speakers setup mo. masaya ako sa kulam kahit di ko narinig in person. this is the 2nd time i bought a speaker set without even hearing them first. thanks sa mga mangku, you know who you are ;D
same pala receiver natin sir. kaya pala totoo ang mga comments nila sa S speakers setup mo. masaya ako sa kulam kahit di ko narinig in person. this is the 2nd time i bought a speaker set without even hearing them first. thanks sa mga mangku, you know who you are ;D
Alam ko hindi kapa tapos kulamin eh :D
kaya nga he asking for more kagawad mac ;D ;D ;D
bwahahaha. i'm asking for more money ni kumander to buy all my caprichos ;D
Salamat kagawad ;)
However, this is not for my HT ;D Para sa xbox gaming ko lang sa attic. ;D
If its for my HT, I wouldnt go lower than either a 3311 or 4311 ;)
yun eh! ;)
but if its entry level, try mo rin onkyo. the 50x series is pretty good feature for feature. i think one of the downside lang naman ng onkyo is that it runs hotter than denons. but aside from that oks sya. partial ako kasi onkyo user. ;D
OT yang sagot mo kagawad ah :D :D joke lang po :-*
Seriously, wala naman problema sa aking kung Denon or Onkyo (sorry ulit sa OT :D ) - but for my particular usage, Im just looking for a cheaper new or preowned Denon or Onkyo. Yung binenta ko lang kahapon na avr ko for gaming is just a 5k Onkyo avr - syempre ayoko naman gumastos na sobrang malaki, so looking for a 10-12k avr lang ako at the moment. Just a bit of upgrade ika nga :P
kayo talaga oo, kaya nagiging OT kase sa presyo, ang hanap ni kagawad mac Denon 5308c1
ot ulit, pero ok, 17k baka may tawad pa. award winning. onkyo 606.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130137.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130137.0.html)
bro macdon, ayon sa post ni bro iiinas dati, bright yung onkyo baka manibago ka lang sa denon. pero sa panlasa ko mas prefer ko talaga denon ;D
uu nga pala sayang yun sony, sealed din yun diba? :D
bro macdon, ayon sa post ni bro iiinas dati, bright yung onkyo baka manibago ka lang sa denon. pero sa panlasa ko mas prefer ko talaga denon ;D
Mga sirs medyo OT lang pero, you'll never notice this "brightness" is you use the right speakers, right kagawad Mar? ;D
Yup - sealed ;D Parang ayaw sa akin ang bago ............ gusto luma na :Dtype ko yung isang denon dun sa market place ;D
type ko yung isang denon dun sa market place ;D
Alin don brader... ::)eto sana 3805 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130011.0.html)kaso nga lang wala audyssey.
eto sana 3805 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130011.0.html)kaso nga lang wala audyssey.
or
etong 688 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,129346.0.html), mas maganda yung Audyssey MultEQ XT
eto sana 3805 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130011.0.html)kaso nga lang wala audyssey.
or
etong 688 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,129346.0.html), mas maganda yung Audyssey MultEQ XT
or eto (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,129646.0.html)
dami! ::) ::)
^ cool, that was enlightening. :)
^^^ thanks bro stickfighter for the enlightenment ;)
I thought ok ka na sa 1509...you have plans of upgrading your receiver na pala. :)may spare genesis speaker kasi ako dito bro gusto k gawin surround back. ;D
I really enjoyed the Denon + SVS speaker combo - it seems to have more body than with Onkyo.
Medyo nakakalito lang ang settings for the first time user like me :P
BTW - If I unplug the unit, would it loose my saved settings over time?
As long as you saved your setting, that will remain until you decide to restore defaut setting or save a new setting. :)
As long as you saved your setting, that will remain until you decide to restore defaut setting or save a new setting. :)
brader stick, can you please share how you restore the saved settings.
minsan kasi nawala ang audyssey multeq (unlit icon) sa receiver's screen lalo na pag di ko na lock ang MENU. when i go to Room EQ, ang selection ay ON, OFF and custom nalang at wala na ang Audyssey, Audyssey L&R (bypass) & Audyssey Flat. all i can do is repeat the bloody calibration to make it lit (audyssey multeq) again. i tried to find where is that restore thingy sa Menu but to no avail.
brader stick, can you please share how you restore the saved settings. minsan kasi nawala ang audyssey multeq (unlit icon) sa receiver's screen lalo na pag di ko na lock ang MENU. when i go to Room EQ, ang selection ay ON, OFF and custom nalang at wala na ang Audyssey, Audyssey L&R (bypass) & Audyssey Flat. all i can do is repeat the bloody calibration to make it lit (audyssey multeq) again. i tried to find where is that restore thingy sa Menu but to no avail.
Thanks. The restoration is only to bring it back to factory settings. I always choose to save the settings after each calibration but it happened a few times already that the audyssey multieq just go unlit and no option to select it again. I will use the orig controller if this will happen again. Naka universal remote a kasi ako at baka may napindot sa remote to de-activate it.
I'm using a denon 2308 pala.
@Conan, i'm not sure if it's the memory battery coz it seldom happens. Basta napansin ko lang pagnawala na ang audyssey sa receiver screen, unlock na ang menu settings. I'm using a sony remote commander, baka may mga buttons na nag de-activate siguro.
meron bang memory battery?
AFAIK wala syang memory battery...but I could be wrong. :-[
AFAIK wala syang memory battery...but I could be wrong. :-[
I need help with my Denon 1610. Watching mkv movies using laptop and as well as PS3 have problems in the display. After 5 to 15 mins or so, the display suddenly goes black and the information display on Denon blinks for a second. After a few seconds the display goes back again. This may happen every now and then.
The sound though is not interrupted. Im using HDMI for both sound and video. Upon trying optical for audio and HDMI direct to the Toshiba dLCD isplay, there is no problem occurring. What could be wrong with it?
Any suggestions on trouble shooting?
Toshiba Regza, problem is I also tried PJ Acer and it also happens once in a while. Could it be affected by power fluctuations or is it an hdmi cable problem. Im using CDR King HDMI cables and 500W AVR.
Ive checked the manual of Denon, it says the system should be HDCP compliant, does it have something to do with high bandwith content when playing HD files? maybe the CDR King cheap hdmi does not provide enough high speed for playing HD files. HDMI seems to have no problem with the visual. only that it blacks out unpredictively once in a while.
I dont think so, it either work or not. Most likely sa implementation ng HDMI sa tv, my video card, or my receiver...
Or pede rin sa HDMI cable, na may nakakabit na rounded plastic (nakalimutan ko tawag, i think pantanggal ng noise yun) malapit sa terminal nya. Napansin ko kasi yung mga cable ko na ganito may issue, may flicker, pero yung wala flawless..
My AVR is now working now with no problems in flickering. Its an hdmi connection problem. The CDR King HDMI cables have some issues so i replaced it with manufacturer HDMI cables 1.5m that is free from samsung. CDR King HDMI 3m and above could not catch up with high speed communication specially when playing 720p 1080p mkv with DD and DTS sounds.ito ba yung mga bagong labas with mesh ?
Just wanted to share 2011 Denon av receivers:
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20053559&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-1
guys may per-outs ba yung denon 2310?
The local version has pre outs. The one from the states don't have pre outs afaik. :)wahah i knew it
The local version has pre outs. The one from the states don't have pre outs afaik. :)
i recently added a subwoofer and 3 speakers to complete my 5.1 setup with my 2808. i noticed na kapag nagplay cya ng audio hindi nya gamit yung subwoof. any setting i should change?
It usually takes 3 months from the time a product is announced before it makes it to our shores.
I'm saving for the 1912 as well. I have 5 Apple devices on my home LAN so it would be nice to have airplay available to send stuff from the devices to the HT wirelessly.
It usually takes 3 months from the time a product is announced before it makes it to our shores.
I'm saving for the 1912 as well. I have 5 Apple devices on my home LAN so it would be nice to have airplay available to send stuff from the devices to the HT wirelessly.
sir i think you need to return the item.
saan mo nakuha?
sir i think you need to return the item.
saan mo nakuha?
Just got my 3312 last night....after using it for a couple of minutes, biglang namatay ang power tapos after a second nag on ulit :-\ tapos namatay after mga 5 seconds, then on ulit...kala ko nag trip lang ung wires ng speakers, pero i tried unpluging everything except power, ganun pa rin :'( nag try na rin ako ng ibang outlet, nag reset na rin ako ng micro processor (power+preset2+preset3 combination) to reset to factory settings. ano ba naman to, ka ddeliver lang last night :'( :'( :'(
may naka encounter na ba sa inyo ng ganito? TIA!
Proud new owner of Denon 1912. ;D Maganda ba tunog ng polk dito?
hi,any suggestion on what speakers to pair with denon1912? im already sold on getting denon1912 instead of onkyo 609.
but still some more inputs of what subs and speakers.. i have around 20sqm of room space.. setting this up for my bed room..
Check out the infinit Primus and Polk speakers. Come by the shop to check them out. :)
sir san banda ung shop nyu? chinechk ko kc sa google map ung bldg.hnd ku mkita..hehe
No more stock. We have one unit of the dta100. It's the bldg. with the Korean restaurant WOO RI JIB on the ground floor. MLY ENTERPRISES. Unit 303 Amaremca bldg. 107a kalayaan avenue, diliman, quezon city.
TEL NO. 435-3210 :)
no more stock for 1912? aw..hmm..sige will try to check out your store..
I havent receive the unit but was told within the week will becomes available. So i gave confirmation to get one.
Re return the item? Why? Any qc prob with 1st batch? Should i cancel my reservation?
We have the Denon 1912 available already. :)
How much?
33.5k. :)
where is the store located?
paradigms usually go well with Denon.
Hindi ba pwede mag play ng videos from usb device sa denon 1912? I tried kanina to play some videos (avi, mkv mp4) from my 4gb USB and na reread lng ung sila as songs/sounds walang video.
Bump lng sa question ko. Dapat ba external HDD na FAT32 ang gamitin ko pra mka read ng movies?
haven't tried FAT32, pero yung WD HDD ko (NTFS) ayaw mag play. pero ok lang, kasi may WD TV Live naman ako kaya dun nakakabit HDD :D
Hindi ba pwede mag play ng videos from usb device sa denon 1912? I tried kanina to play some videos (avi, mkv mp4) from my 4gb USB and na reread lng ung sila as songs/sounds walang video.
So sir your using a WD TV Live pra mag play ng mga movies? Media player yan dba?
It's only for music and picture playback and must be FAT32.
yup, heto setup ko:
WD HDD --usb--> WD TV Live --hdmi--> Denon --hdmi--> TV
:)
Ayos yan! I'll invest someday sa dedicated media player. Ganito set-up ko pag play ng video:
PC --networked--> PS3 --HDMI--> Denon - pag mga anime dl at pag tinatamad mag copy sa HDD. ;D
HDD --USB--> TV --Optical--> Denon - pag DD at DTS lng ung movie.
Salamat sa info brader!
hi denon users,just got an old denon2807.tanong ko lang kung papaano i adjust yung speaker level without deactivating audyssey?si net kasi ng audyssey yung right speaker ng malakas kaya gusto ko syang bawasan ng 1db.thanks in advance.may channel level enter button yan.
may channel level enter button yan.sir,binago ko yuung setting ko sa right rear speaker ko (dati kasi si net sya ng audyssey +2,changed it to 0 kasi malakas sya compared sa left) thru the channel level button.but when i view the speaker setting dun sa set up menu,yung previous setting pa din yung nakasave?wala bang paraan para mabago yung setting dun?pahabol na question,pag naka red ba yung light nung multieq ibig sabihin naka on yung audyssey?pag green ano ibig sabihin?thanks
sir,binago ko yuung setting ko sa right rear speaker ko (dati kasi si net sya ng audyssey +2,changed it to 0 kasi malakas sya compared sa left) thru the channel level button.but when i view the speaker setting dun sa set up menu,yung previous setting pa din yung nakasave?wala bang paraan para mabago yung setting dun?pahabol na question,pag naka red ba yung light nung multieq ibig sabihin naka on yung audyssey?pag green ano ibig sabihin?thanksyung red sa left side, ibig sabihin nun may pinalitan ka na values after audyssey calib.
yung red sa left side, ibig sabihin nun may pinalitan ka na values after audyssey calib.ok,thanks
yung right side naman pag naka green ibig sabihin naka ON ang dynamic volume, pag off red din sya.
hi, i need some help with my denon 1910
just recently, while i was watching movie, my avr suddenly shut down, but everthing in my HT set up are still running. the standby light is flashing red. ive checked the manual and it says exactly this:
symptom: power switches off suddenly while you are using the AVR-1910, the power indicator will flash red at intervals of approx 0.5 sec.
Cause: 1. use speaker having impedance less than specified.
2. If speaker cable core wires touch each other or the core wires become disconnected from their terminals, the protection ckt will be activated in the event of core wires coming into contact with the AVR-1910 rear panel.
Countermeasure: 1. please use speakers which have the specified impedance.
2. Unplug the power cord, then after twisting the core wires together tightly again, or effecting termination treatments etc, please reconnect once again.
ang ginwa ko po i reconnected all speaker and video wires, i checked all wires kun me nabalatan or kinagat ng daga pero intact naman po lahat. i reconnect all speaker wires to banana plug just to make sure that evrything will be okay.
then just this evening after long hours of rewiring i tried to watch some movie pero sa kasamaang palad ganon parin po.
i have been using my avr and speakers for almost 2 years, wala naman ako nagagalaw sa connection kya nagtataka ako bakit ganito na bigla avr ko. huhu..pls help naman po. gusto ko man iparepair sa service center kaso sa palawan pa ako. ipapaship ko pa cia para lang maparepair. baka maaus ko pa before ko ipadala.
btw: ito po ang simpleng set up ko just in case un need.
panasonic 42 pv80
denon 1910 avr
polk audio tsi 300 front, center and sorrounds
polk audion dsw pro 500 sub
ps3 slim
HDX
castle power line filter
stac avr 1500w
pls help, thanks guys. thanks pdvd.
Sir crxs07, have the same problem with my 1908 avr..I fixed it in power section..now working na di na namamatay..hi bro, anong ibig sabihin na naayos sya sa "power section" sa power supply ang naging problema?
You may call if you want to repair..09175504902
Regards,
Boyet
hi bro, anong ibig sabihin na naayos sya sa "power section" sa power supply ang naging problema?
minor or major tweak/repair ba? just curious :)
ninjababez, sa power section may mga cold solder that caused avr shutdown. sobrang init ng heat sink..try to re-solder then lagyan mo ng maliit na fan sa heatsink..ung ang ginawa ko ok na di namamatay.thanks bro. kinda reminds me of the compaq CQ40 models ng hp laptops. :)
Regards
hi guys quick question.
my current setup
HTPC > Denon 1912 > Plasma TV
may option ba to bypass the receiver's function? kumbaga i want to Bypass HDMI signal when/while receiver is off. tried turning off the receiver, nawala lang display sa screen ;D
kasi minsan may mga movies na mas prefer ko tv speakers ang gamitin (e.g. tv series, drama or comedy).
gusto ko rin kasi makatipid sa kuryente kahit paano kasi pag sinimulan mo ang tv series, tuloy tuloy sya kaya medyo matagal tagal na gamitan :)
Bro try mo kaya gumamit ng HDMI switcher. :Dwill get splitter from vtec doc ;D
mukhang ito na ang sagot sa tanong ko .. HDMI Control (http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/amps-pre-pros-receivers/70795-denon-avr-4311-bypass-hdmi-signal-receiver-off.html)
will try this later :)
AFAIK, malakas pa rin sa kuryente kapag nakabypass mode ang receiver.nyak thanks Tempter. buti nalang naka-reserve na sakin yung HDMI splitter ;D ;D
mga gurus noob question lang. Wala kasing pre-out ung 1911 ko, wala na bang ibang way(s) na ikabit sya sa external power amp? yung 2-ch power amp lang sana plano ko para sa L/R. Or upgrade na sa higher model? :-\
Upgrade to an AVR with pre-out is your solution sir...
sigh ;D thanks Courage!
sir r0n1n, ung 1908 may preout..
Hi there DENON user. Can anyone assist me with my setup?
I'm new to the DENON AVR and would like to know how to setup my current HTPC to my Denon 1909 AVR via HDMI. Planning to use it 50% Video / 50% audio.
My current HTPC connects to my Sony LCD via HDMI.
Will this setup work? HTPC ----> DENON 1909 ----> Sony LCD (All using HDMI connections?
Thanks guys... :D
naka denon ka na din pala sir! Hehe! Ano ba yung previous avr mo?
Got my free Denon 1612 today!
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Got my free Denon 1612 today!
Got my free Denon 1612 today!congrats bro. ..
baket free? baka may kapatid pa yan? ;D congrats sir!ditto ;D
baket free? baka may kapatid pa yan? ;D congrats sir!
Got my free Denon 1612 today!
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wow swerte naman may free AVR. . . Jackpot. . . Sir torque, pamigay mo na lang din yung previous AVR mo. Hehe!
powghi, baka ibigay ko na lang sa kapatid ko yung Onkyo502... ;D
tanong ko lang, parang nabasa ko sa isang sa mga thread, yung denon 1912 walang upscaling? so pano pq nya as compared to other receivers or ang bd player at tv na bahala sa pq nya?
akala ko same lang sya ng 1911, yung airplay lang ang alam kong difference. wala nga syang upscaling/upconversion features.
Below is an excert from Whathifi:
"But, while last year’s equivalent model included video upconversion and upscaling, Denon has decided to sacrifice the latter.
This means that the amp will take video from sources that don’t have a HDMI output and convert them so they can be output over HDMI, but it can’t upscale a lower-resolution image to the likes of 720p or 1080p. You’ll need to let your display device or source handle this. "
hi guys quick question lang for 1912 users or denon users with the same remote.
anyone here able to use "universal remote" function of their receiver?
i have an LG TV and wanted to use the receivers remote to control it. thanks :)
hi sir ninjababez, I'm able to use the avr (1911) remote to control my Samsung LED. Just make sure to input the correct preset codes for LG (there maybe a number of codes, you just need to select which one will work). For Samsung, there are 4 preset codes, and the last one worked for my tv.hi thanks for reply bro, where did you get the codes?
btw, my remote maybe different from yours, but just in case I'm using RC-1146. hope this helps.
hi thanks for reply bro, where did you get the codes?
yun ba yung nasa auto setup?
your manual should have a separate booklet that contains the codes you can use in controlling other equipment, if not, you can check in the denon site and dl perhaps.nasa cd yung manual ng denon, pareho nung nasa online.
Denon Masters, I need your opinions/suggestions/recommendations on the Denon AVR-2311CI 7.2 Channel A/V Surround Sound Receiver. I am going to upgrade and I am looking to upgarde to this AVR. Does anybody own this? :)bro marts paghandaan mo na ang remote configuration nyan, malaki pinag iba dun sa dati natin nakagawian. :D :D
Tama si sir onkyo, sa case mo select mo yung tv as source. Mukhang nakita mo na yung codes at 2 yung options mo. Gumana na?di pa bro, pero same ba tayo ng screenshots?
di pa bro, pero same ba tayo ng screenshots?
dun na ako sa last part nagugugluhan yung press any key to test or something.
Magkaiba bro. After mo ma-input yung code try mo press yung menu sa avr remote. Eto yung pang test ko. Make sure na naka select yung tv sa avr mo. Pag hindi nag work, press mo yung quickselect2 then repeat yung process ng pag input ng codes then try another code. Then try mo ulit kung nakocontrol mo na yung tv. Pag nag work na tska mo press yung quickselect1.thanks bro, will try this later after doing the laundry hahaha
bro marts paghandaan mo na ang remote configuration nyan, malaki pinag iba dun sa dati natin nakagawian. :D :D
btw on paper mukhang swak na swak sya na upgrade para satin na nang galing sa 1509, yun lang masasabi ko sa ngayon :D
Ok I changed my mind. I am leaning to a better upgrade - 4310CI nalang ;Danong katumbas nyan sa atin dito bro?
Ok I changed my mind. I am leaning to a better upgrade - 4310CI nalang ;D
thanks bro, will try this later after doing the laundry hahaha
will this work on my tv even if the receiver is off? :)
Ok I changed my mind. I am leaning to a better upgrade - 4310CI nalang ;D
that's the way to do it my friend
"upgrade" is not the same as "change", if you choose the 2310CI, then you are "changing" from 1509 to 2310CI.
but if you choose the 4310CI, you are "upgrading" from 1509 to 4310CI
that's the way to do it my friendano ba katumbas ng 4310CI and 2310CI sa atin bro?
"upgrade" is not the same as "change", if you choose the 2310CI, then you are "changing" from 1509 to 2310CI.
but if you choose the 4310CI, you are "upgrading" from 1509 to 4310CI
Di ka magsisisi dito sir marts ;D ;D ;D
I'm currently using this on my system :)
that's the way to do it my friend
"upgrade" is not the same as "change", if you choose the 2310CI, then you are "changing" from 1509 to 2310CI.
but if you choose the 4310CI, you are "upgrading" from 1509 to 4310CI
and if you want to complete the fun, get the 4311 ftw.
ano ba katumbas ng 4310CI and 2310CI sa atin bro?
and if you want to complete the fun, get the 4311 ftw.
+1 he he he... Go go go brader.. Upgrade naaaaa
bro marts disregard my question, akala ko kanina ibang version yung receiver (e.g. US ver/EU ver etc.) ;D ;D
Actually, the upgrade will depend on how much I can buy it in Dubai. I am leaving for Abu Dhabi on Dec. and will have a side trip to Dubai. Mura daw gamit don, so titingin ako. ;D
Got it! ;)
Mga peeps yang 2312 nasa 3,600 dirhams dun sa Dubai Mall sa Denon store mismo kaso Made in China daw according dun sa pinoy na salesman.oki lang bro china-man ka naman :D :D
Yung 1912 nasa 2,200 dirhams lang made in china
Yung 1912 nga pala EQ XT na sya.
1 AED = 11.8117 PHP, so ibig sabihin P42.5K. Magkano ba usual price nito dyan sa atin?yung Denon 1912 33.5k Pesos nung nabili ko, so malamang halos doble yung 2312 dito satin.
yung Denon 1912 33.5k Pesos nung nabili ko, so malamang halos doble yung 2312 dito satin.
and yes MultEQXT na :)
sa US website naman nakalagay MultEq lang ang 1912 at mas mababa nasa 90 watts per channel lang yata, unlike dito 125 watts per channel nabili ko :D
yung Denon 1912 33.5k Pesos nung nabili ko, so malamang halos doble yung 2312 dito satin.sa eBAY 306$ lang free shipping pa REFURBISHED nga lang ;)
and yes MultEQXT na :)
sa US website naman nakalagay MultEq lang ang 1912 at mas mababa nasa 90 watts per channel lang yata, unlike dito 125 watts per channel nabili ko :D
sa eBAY 306$ lang free shipping pa REFURBISHED nga lang ;)
hayz why can't our local distro/seller push for a lower price.
yung reasoning nila na"di naman maraming bumibili kaya di mababaan ang presyo, di makapasok ng marami nyan" parang kalokohan lang, panong bibili ang tao kung ganun kamahal ::) ::)
sorry vent out lang hehehe ang mahal kasi ng bili ko nung sakin hahaha
sa US website naman nakalagay MultEq lang ang 1912 at mas mababa nasa 90 watts per channel lang yata, unlike dito 125 watts per channel nabili ko :D
Okey lang yon brader jami, at least me peace of mind ka naman because of the warranty provided by local sellers. Tsaka "priceless" ang me peace of mind, on other hand, yong presyo ng bili mo sa 1912 dito baka 3312 na ang mabibili pag US ka nag-source. ;)sana man lang yung older models, mabenta nila ng mas mababa ;D
I think the 125w rating was derived from the performance with a 1kHz test tone into a 6 ohm load with a THD tolerance of 0.7%. The 90w rating is more reliable, as it is a full band measurement into 8 ohms and is done with a tighter tolerance.sa box ko lang nakita yung 125 watts bro, pero i was not expecting much naman pagdating sa power maliit lang naman ht/bedroom ko (10 sq meter) ;D
Afaik, both ratings are for 2ch driven.
sana man lang yung older models, mabenta nila ng mas mababa ;D
ok lang sana sakin mag source sa US, kaso wala naman CC payment hehehe
sana man lang yung older models, mabenta nila ng mas mababa ;D
ok lang sana sakin mag source sa US, kaso wala naman CC payment hehehe
sa box ko lang nakita yung 125 watts bro, pero i was not expecting much naman pagdating sa power maliit lang naman ht/bedroom ko (10 sq meter) ;D
Ako what i did was. Ebay via paypal or CC, ship sa kamaganak sa US, then ship nila sayo..ahh pwede, hanap ako kamag anak dun ;D
thanks bro, will try this later after doing the laundry hahaha
will this work on my tv even if the receiver is off? :)
@ ninjababez, na-try ko na 'to pwedeng pwede macontrol ang tv kahit naka off ang amp. Hthkinainisan ko yung pag setup bro ;D
kinainisan ko yung pag setup bro ;D
maski yung 8 in 1 universal remote nauubos pasensya ko :D
bibili nalang ako ng night stand para patungan ng maraming remote including keyboard, mouse and laptop :)
nyaaah :D try mo to, granted na ok na yung codes na pinaguusapan natin dati:will try this thanks :)
1. habang naka off yung amp, press mo amp selector sa remote until zone 2 is selected.
2. press on/off buttons for Zone 2/Device (not the main on/off button). kapag nag on yung tv, ok na
kinainisan ko yung pag setup bro ;D
maski yung 8 in 1 universal remote nauubos pasensya ko :D
bibili nalang ako ng night stand para patungan ng maraming remote including keyboard, mouse and laptop :)
^ we have almost the same set of gears sir raptor (1909, PV8, NMT)..what is the model of your logitech harmony..I like that function..one press lang on lahat! :)
Mga Tol, ano po ba ang function nyang Logitech Harmony? Magkano po ba price nyan? sorry po sa OT
according to my own readings sir, mukhang ganun nga for the meantime... buti na lang I did not jump to the splitter option right away...bro OT sa topic mo ha .. 2311 mo ba may multeqxt na, or multeq lang? :)
I'm trying to arrange for a dual hdmi out 3d bd player as replacement for the promo option I had... well sana maapprove muna yun. If not, might just stick with the separate hdmi and optical option (now where did I hide those damn toslinks hahaha).
Thanks for your effort in clearing this up ;)
Now, I'm wondering if it will be the same for 3d games in the ps3 (I believe they are using a different method of 3d rendering for games compared to 3d movies)
p.s. baket may link ka dyan? hahahahaha. ikaw lang may pambili nyan sir :D things are different now compared to when we were single hehe.. so cheap alternatives lang tayo ;)
sir ninjababez,ah i see, i was looking for a receiver with pre outs kasi ;D
sorry sir wala pa po ko balak bumili ng 2311 as of now 2309 pa din receiver ko.... and I have no idea on the price of the 2311 locally... does anyone know a base figure? anyway, based sa mga kakabasa ko sa 3d pass through sa receivers parang multeq pa sya (at least based dun sa CI version sa states).. and the xt version will probably be implemented in the next series (xx12)
Mga master! Question lang po. I recently bought tsi 400 so i calibrated my receiver again kase new speaker. After I calibrated, yung subwoofer parang humina siya kahit gawin kong +5db yung channel parang mahina parin unlike before when i was using logitech speakers. This is what i read from the DENON 1912 manualtry to run audyssey again muna :)
If “Front” and “Center” for “Speaker Config.” are set to “Large”, and
“Subwoofer Mode” is set to “LFE”, no sound may be output from the
subwoofers, depending on the input signal or selected surround mode.
Since I have CS20 and tsi400, large setting nila. Ganun po ba talaga yun hihina ang output sa subwoofer? Or is there something that i could adjust sa setting? (LPF to LFE, LFE+Main) Salamat!
try to run audyssey again muna :)
kung ganun parin ..
set speakers to small, then cutoff @ 80hz
tanggalin mo yung LFE + Main para sub lang ang tutunog sa lower frequency, tapos cutoff mo sa sub from 120hz to 80hz (timplahin mo nalang) :)
ganun din reading ko pag ni calibrate ko sa audyssey sa akin..pero I always follow what I read sa avforums noon from batpigs set up guide..set the fronts to small 60-80hz (depends), satellites ko small din asa 110-120
and LFE nga lang din..not LFE + Main
pag wala pa din..try relocating your sub
Sir salamat din po dito! I though may mababago sa SQ pag small or large speakers ang pipiliin. Para lang pala yun if gusto mo din mag output ng bass or low frequency sa speakers. I found the batpigs guide and sabi dun dapat small lahat ng setting for the subwoofer to handle all the bass. Will post soon if this works! Thanks!!wag mo rin kalimutan yung xover sa sub set it to maximum para receiver na yung filter :)
wag mo rin kalimutan yung xover sa sub set it to maximum para receiver na yung filter :)
Ayun bumalik yung deep bass sound. Dapat nga naka set yung speakers to small. I will re-run Audyssey mamaya para mag sync ulit sounds. :D
Sir im not sure about sa xover sa sub pero ito ba yung settings sa receiver? Yung full band or something? Yung sa sub kase ang "pihitan" lang sa likod is volume, low pass at phase. I think I should set the Phase to 0 degrees, low pass maximum and volume midway pag run ko yung Audyssey calibration? Nabasa ko lng. Anyway salamat po ulit. :)
(http://www.ivancheam.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/subwoofer-lpf-lfe-settings.jpg)
the knob with Hz, yan dapat set to highest para bypassed sya.
para yung receiver na magbibigay ng feed sa kanya without changes. try mo 120hz then pababain mo nalang according to your preference :)
Bossing wala po ata ganyang knob sa subwoofer ko which is yung Polk PSW125. Low pass knob lng yung andun which is naka set sa maximum nung nag calibrate ako last night. I dont know if that is the same with crossover frequency but ok naman yung lumabas na result. Medyo binawasan ko lng ng konti after nung calibration. Ill try to experiment yung 120hz sa sub setting kung ano mas maganda tunog. Maraming salamat ulit!
hi guys,
recently got denon 1912 but unfortunately cd-rom ko sira kya nde ko pa nababasa mag calibrate or mag set up ng speakers ng maayos, hope you can help kung paano aayusin or iset sa denon na wala akong sub, 5.0 pa lang gamit ko eh...
at any tips to have this properly calibrated sa audyssey.
tia
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http://www.usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/Owners%20Manual_AVR1912.pdf
yung Denon 1912 33.5k Pesos nung nabili ko, so malamang halos doble yung 2312 dito satin.
and yes MultEQXT na :)
sa US website naman nakalagay MultEq lang ang 1912 at mas mababa nasa 90 watts per channel lang yata, unlike dito 125 watts per channel nabili ko :D
ano po pagkakaiba ng MultEQXT sa MultEq?MultEQ compared to MultEQ XT (http://ask.audyssey.com/entries/109003-multeq-compared-to-multeq-xt)
MultEQ compared to MultEQ XT (http://ask.audyssey.com/entries/109003-multeq-compared-to-multeq-xt)
MultEQ Highlights (http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/multeq)
Ask ko lang mga 1912 owners, can the 1912 play FLAC files stored on an external HDD attached to the USB port? Upto what size of HDD is supported?
Ask ko lang mga 1912 owners, can the 1912 play FLAC files stored on an external HDD attached to the USB port? Upto what size of HDD is supported?ill download flac later, will try playing it via 1912 (though i doubt it would work)
Just wanted to share the Denon/Marantz store at the Dubai Mall ;Dbro marts anong naiskor mo? :D
This receiver costs Php335,880.00 :o
The model of this receiver is AVCA1HD at Php335,880.00
The Power Amp below the DVD Player cost Php419,880.00 :o
The Denon 1312 is only Php16,788.00 and the 1612 is only Php22,788.00 - mura lang ;D
;D
Ask ko lang mga 1912 owners, can the 1912 play FLAC files stored on an external HDD attached to the USB port? Upto what size of HDD is supported?
bro marts anong naiskor mo? :D
according to this cnet link it does support FLAC (http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/denon-avr-1912/4507-6466_7-34647681.html?tag=mncol;subnav)
Supported digital audio standards AAC,
WMA,
FLAC,
MP3
I auditioned the 1912 today. I plugged in a 500 GB external HDD with flacs (NTFS-formatted) and the Denon failed to recognize the HDD. I plugged the same HDD to an Onkyo 609 and the FLAC files played flawlessly. Di ba talaga kaya ng Denon ang external HDD, or is it because the HDD is NTFS-formatted?baka naman di ganun kataas ang tubo kaya nila discouraged ;D
I really like to buy the 1912 because of airplay and MultEQ XT. But I'm a bit worried because 2 retailers sort of discouraged me from getting a Denon dahil either sirain daw or pangit ang after-sales service. In fact, I went to an AV store today and was told that they don't have stock of 1912. They have 1 daw pero returned item due to defective subwoofer out. I hope isolated case lang ito. Can Denon owners share their experience with Denon after-sales service. I plan to buy a receiver within the week and Im leaning towards the Denon 1912 (other options are Onkyo 609/709).
baka naman di ganun kataas ang tubo kaya nila discouraged ;D
pero pareho tayo ng situation several months ago, may nabasa rin ako online na sirain daw 1912. i did however checked the manufacturing date before purchasing. can't really comment re: aftersales service, as i never had problems with my previous 1509 and this 1912 (crossing fingers :D ).
re: ntfs not really sure kasi iphone and 8gb flash driver palang nagagmit ko sa usb ng denon.
Why check the manufacturing date?
sabi kasi nila sirain nga daw ang 1912, kaya nag check ako online.
Were there reports of certain batches being more prone to developing defects?
yes nung nagcheck ako online yung mga unang labas daw
I auditioned the 1912 today. I plugged in a 500 GB external HDD with flacs (NTFS-formatted) and the Denon failed to recognize the HDD. I plugged the same HDD to an Onkyo 609 and the FLAC files played flawlessly. Di ba talaga kaya ng Denon ang external HDD, or is it because the HDD is NTFS-formatted?
I really like to buy the 1912 because of airplay and MultEQ XT. But I'm a bit worried because 2 retailers sort of discouraged me from getting a Denon dahil either sirain daw or pangit ang after-sales service. In fact, I went to an AV store today and was told that they don't have stock of 1912. They have 1 daw pero returned item due to defective subwoofer out. I hope isolated case lang ito. Can Denon owners share their experience with Denon after-sales service. I plan to buy a receiver within the week and Im leaning towards the Denon 1912 (other options are Onkyo 609/709).
Kung sa sirain, di naman siguro.
pero once na masira. palpak talaga. si Pure Digital yung humahawak ng repairs. kahit saan mo dalhin, dun binabagsak. I went back 5 times para sa backjob. di pa rin ok hanggang ngayon, sumuko na ako.
kasi tuwing dinadala ko ruon. irerepair nila, icha charge ka sa parts. tapos sasabihin, no labor charge na. eh dapat lang, kaya nga backjob e. last visit ko dun, pumutok pa rin after using 5x, eh, nasa 2k or more yung binayad ko sa parts replacement nung ika limang backjob ko. nag give up na ko. that is 5 backjobs in a span of a year. kahit anong pakiusap ko na silipin ng mabuti, di pa rin ginagawa e.
ayoko ngang isipin na yung backjob is their way of getting after sales profits.
They couldn't solve the root cause of the problem. yung huling punta ko, may kasabayan ako, backjob din yung kanya.
Kung sa sirain, di naman siguro.
pero once na masira. palpak talaga. si Pure Digital yung humahawak ng repairs. kahit saan mo dalhin, dun binabagsak. I went back 5 times para sa backjob. di pa rin ok hanggang ngayon, sumuko na ako.
kasi tuwing dinadala ko ruon. irerepair nila, icha charge ka sa parts. tapos sasabihin, no labor charge na. eh dapat lang, kaya nga backjob e. last visit ko dun, pumutok pa rin after using 5x, eh, nasa 2k or more yung binayad ko sa parts replacement nung ika limang backjob ko. nag give up na ko. that is 5 backjobs in a span of a year. kahit anong pakiusap ko na silipin ng mabuti, di pa rin ginagawa e.
ayoko ngang isipin na yung backjob is their way of getting after sales profits.
They couldn't solve the root cause of the problem. yung huling punta ko, may kasabayan ako, backjob din yung kanya.
bro kawboy anong pyesa daw ang sira?
mukhang lemon yun nakuha mo receiver bro. :-\
Pure Digital yon rin ba yong Repair Shop ng Onkyo (Toyama) at Pioneer sa West Ave.?
so sorry about your story, pero wala na bang warranty sa shop yun? Or kahit sa shop mo dalahin e sa Pure Digital pa din nila ipapagawa? 1912 ba yung sa yo sir?
Oo bro.thanks sa advice bro, sana nga hindi lemon itong bago receiver ko :)
Stac gamit ko dati. pero when I moved here sa muntinlupa,
I settled on a surge protector... naka 3 channel setup lang naman ako, at di naman ako malakas magpatugtog.
it was fine for 2 years, hanggang sa naihian nga, nagsimula na yung sumpa...
so ayun, Ok naman talaga Denon, ingatan niyo lang na wag masira.
Bro, i have nothing to share about after sales service although you read through some cases in this thread. So far, 3311 for a little over a year and a 2808 for 3.5 years have not left their spot (pwera usog) since. i hope it stays that way.
Can Denon owners share their experience with Denon after-sales service. I plan to buy a receiver within the week and Im leaning towards the Denon 1912 (other options are Onkyo 609/709).
Mine is an old 2105, seldom used, siguro avg. of 10x a year.
pero nung naihian daw ng anak ko, ayun. di na nila maayos ayos.
it was really frustrating coz I have to come from Alabang pa.
they just keep changing the transistor, pero kako, kung di nila maayos yung ugat nung nagcacause ng short, puputok at puputok pa rin yung transistor at 950 ata bawat transistor.
nung huling punta ko, I told them kung may iba pa bang pwedeng gumawa maliban sa kanila, kasi di sila marurunong mag ayos. I really told them that out of frustration. wala daw. sila lang talaga.
tinanong ko din na sabihin lang kung di na kaya ayusin, di ko na ipapaayos.
kaya pa rin daw. pero olats pa rin. putok ulit sa 3rd o 4th use ko.
Then I called to inform them na pumutok ulit. pinababalik ulit sa akin.
kung di nila nakaya ng ilang beses, would I still expect them to be able to resolve it? hindi di ba?
so I asked for a diff. repair center. wala daw talaga. when I insisted. tinuro ako sa Audio World.
natawa nga ako kasi I know Joey, Jason and the rest of the gang.
when I went there mid last week, natawa nga sila, kasi dun daw nila ako dapat ituturo... pabalik sa Pure Digital, kasi dun din daw nila kukunin yung piyesa. kinuwento ko yung nangyari at kako, subukan lang nila kung kaya, kung hindi. hindi na.
outside opinion kumbaga, pero a more trustworthy one as far as Im concerned.
and hopefully, sila maka resolve.
Brader @Kawboy
meron ngang ibang cause yan di siguro nila nilinis maigi yung naihian sa bandang ampli board o pwede din na yung kinakabit nila made in china na parts madaling uminit yung TRANSISTOR pag made in china anong number po nung transistor na pinapalitan? baka di din nila tinetesting ng matagalan after na maikabit yung parts na bago. Kapag ginagamit nyo ba wala ba kayo kakaibang naririnig na tunog like ugong, distorted sound etc. Sa malamang yung balancing ng voltage ng ampli yung TRIMMER baka natuluan ng ihi at nag-cha change na ng value habang ginagamit nyo pag di kasi nag-balance ang voltage ng ampli which is yung TRIMMER ang nagco-control medyo makakarinig ka ng ugong dyan at iinit na yang POWER TRANSISTOR dun na madadale yan at isa pa kung MADE in CHINA yung parts na nilalagay naku paulit-ulit nga na masisira yan subok ko na yan sa mga AMPLI na pang mobile pag-CHINA kinabit na POWER TRANSISTOR ilang oras lang o kaya minuto lang sibak agad yang TRANSISTOR... ;D
ano pong speakers ang gamit nyo mga 1912 owners? :) pakisabi na rin po kung ano impression nyo, warm, bright, etc.. salamat poSVS SCS fronts (neutral), denon 1912 (bit warm) = preference ko ;D
SVS SCS fronts (neutral), denon 1912 (bit warm) = preference ko ;D
hello mga experts
kinalabit ako ng upgradititis, im using 1910 now, kung upgrade ba ako ng 4311 noticeable ba? my setup now is tsi300/cs10/owm3. receiver ba upgrade ko or speakers muna? thanks
eto po ba first pairing mo sir?nope, used to have 1509 which was a great match din for my SCS :)
ano pong speakers ang gamit nyo mga 1912 owners? :) pakisabi na rin po kung ano impression nyo, warm, bright, etc.. salamat po
nope, used to have 1509 which was a great match din for my SCS :)
planning to upgrade to SVS STS soon. :)
gamit ko mga luma kong Acoustic Energy Speakers AE Evo 3, warm sya tumunog sakin, lalo na kpag gamit ko yung sony 501es cdp. kulang pa ako ng sub ulit pero so far contented ako sa ht din.
baka ngayon na upgrade mo sir, please let me know, baka sakaling pasok sa budget ko yang scs mo. :) gusto ko rin sana mapakinggan yan kaso wag na lang, d kaya presyo eh, baka d ako makatulog pag nagustuhan ko. hahanakuh last year pa naka-reserve ito bro ;D ;D
san po pwede mag-audtion ng mga ae? maganda din po pang music sir?definitely maganda yung AE, depende nalang sa taste mo :)
baka ngayon na upgrade mo sir, please let me know, baka sakaling pasok sa budget ko yang scs mo. :) gusto ko rin sana mapakinggan yan kaso wag na lang, d kaya presyo eh, baka d ako makatulog pag nagustuhan ko. hahaalam ko si avshop ang nagbebenta ng ae ngayon. para sakin maganda ae sa audio kasi simula ng nabili ko sya, dun lang ako tumigil tamaan ng SARS sa speakers
san po pwede mag-audtion ng mga ae? maganda din po pang music sir?
I would just like to mention that our denon 2310 receiver started to act up about 14 months after we bought it. It would intermittently lose video and audio when we're watching movies on the media player (thru HDMI). The problem started to get worse, as in, 5 minutes lang minsan, then wala na. TO get it back to work, I have to turn off/on denon & media player.
Problem doesn't happen when we watch dvds (thru component video) or play FM music.
I've tried moving the connection to the other HDMI ports, same problem.
Tried connecting the media player to the HDTV directly and it works perfectly.
I've brought it to the service center and they say I have to replace the HDMI board for a whopping 18K.
Accdg to the repair people, the hdmi board getting shorted is a weakness of denon. They said its caused by pulling hdmi cables out without turning off the unit or cutting electrical power to it. We never pulled out any cable out of the denon after it was initially set up (except only when it started having problems and I had to try out the other hdmi ports).
Any thoughts/advice on what I should do? Plunk in the amount? Get a replacement receiver? Maybe another brand na lang?
I would just like to mention that our denon 2310 receiver started to act up about 14 months after we bought it. It would intermittently lose video and audio when we're watching movies on the media player (thru HDMI). The problem started to get worse, as in, 5 minutes lang minsan, then wala na. TO get it back to work, I have to turn off/on denon & media player.
Problem doesn't happen when we watch dvds (thru component video) or play FM music.
I've tried moving the connection to the other HDMI ports, same problem.
Tried connecting the media player to the HDTV directly and it works perfectly.
I've brought it to the service center and they say I have to replace the HDMI board for a whopping 18K.
Accdg to the repair people, the hdmi board getting shorted is a weakness of denon. They said its caused by pulling hdmi cables out without turning off the unit or cutting electrical power to it. We never pulled out any cable out of the denon after it was initially set up (except only when it started having problems and I had to try out the other hdmi ports).
Any thoughts/advice on what I should do? Plunk in the amount? Get a replacement receiver? Maybe another brand na lang?
This is my current setup, feel free to suggest a replacement for my busted Denon 2310
Polk Audio rti A7
Polk Audio csi A6
Polk Audio DSW Pro 500 subwoofer
Mede8er media player
alam ko si avshop ang nagbebenta ng ae ngayon. para sakin maganda ae sa audio kasi simula ng nabili ko sya, dun lang ako tumigil tamaan ng SARS sa speakers
Guys question lng po! Bakit pag turn ON ko ng 1912 ko laging default mode nia is TV eh wala nmn nakakabit sa TV connection sa likod. Gusto ko sana sa SAT/CBL default nya pag ON. Pwede ba yun? Thanks!
yep, check system settings. mase-set mo yun dun. for how to do it, google Batpig's Denon guide. very helpful sya..
hello mga experts
kinalabit ako ng upgradititis, im using 1910 now, kung upgrade ba ako ng 4311 noticeable ba? my setup now is tsi300/cs10/owm3. receiver ba upgrade ko or speakers muna? thanks
Not considering the timing of your possible purchase, the answer is yes, primarily for Audyssey MultEQ XT32. When I changed from 4310 (MultEQ XT) to 4311 (MultEQ XT32), the difference was audible.
As for waiting for the replacement to the 4311, in AVS Forums, speculation is that the announcement (not necessarily the rollout, which can be immediate to 1-2 months later--in the US) will be in Fall 2012 (Sept-Nov).
dang ganun katagal ba? kala ko nag a announce yung mga receiver companies around may-june. Hindi ba parang too late naman kung umabot pa ng november ang announcement for the year model?
akala ko mga may ang announcement tapos mga july-aug ang release
oh man! this is a longgggg wait. :(ako nagiintay ng 4311 maging 20k ;D ;D
I would just like to mention that our denon 2310 receiver started to act up about 14 months after we bought it. It would intermittently lose video and audio when we're watching movies on the media player (thru HDMI). The problem started to get worse, as in, 5 minutes lang minsan, then wala na. TO get it back to work, I have to turn off/on denon & media player.
Problem doesn't happen when we watch dvds (thru component video) or play FM music.
I've tried moving the connection to the other HDMI ports, same problem.
Tried connecting the media player to the HDTV directly and it works perfectly.
I've brought it to the service center and they say I have to replace the HDMI board for a whopping 18K.
Accdg to the repair people, the hdmi board getting shorted is a weakness of denon. They said its caused by pulling hdmi cables out without turning off the unit or cutting electrical power to it. We never pulled out any cable out of the denon after it was initially set up (except only when it started having problems and I had to try out the other hdmi ports).
Any thoughts/advice on what I should do? Plunk in the amount? Get a replacement receiver? Maybe another brand na lang?
btw, can't get ARC (audio return channel) between the Panasonic 50X30 and 1912 to work even though tama ang settings and connections per Batpig's Guide. anyone of you able to make ARC work?
sir yung hdmi mo ba 1.4?
yan din suspetsa kong cause e. not sure kung 1.4 yung 2 hdmi ko sir e. pano ba malalaman? parang wala akong nakitang nakasulat sa cable e. have 1 bandrige hdmi cable and 1 from cdr king.
so napagana mo yung ARC sir? anong TV and AVR mo?
thanks!
ok thx!
yep, hdmi cable issue nga. only 1.4 and higher version can support ARC so still lookin for 1.
Ask ko lang mga 1912 owners, can the 1912 play FLAC files stored on an external HDD attached to the USB port? Upto what size of HDD is supported?
Not considering the timing of your possible purchase, the answer is yes, primarily for Audyssey MultEQ XT32. When I changed from 4310 (MultEQ XT) to 4311 (MultEQ XT32), the difference was audible.
As for waiting for the replacement to the 4311, in AVS Forums, speculation is that the announcement (not necessarily the rollout, which can be immediate to 1-2 months later--in the US) will be in Fall 2012 (Sept-Nov).
master gaol,
sure ba na malaking malaki na noticeable sa sound pag nag upgrade ako from 1910 to 4311? sencya sa kulit kasi may go signal k misis na pwede upgrade pero one time lang hehe, current setup ko kasi is tsi300/cs10/owm3/svspb12nsd. help me decide kung avr or speakers, may nacanvass kasi ako 4311 nasa $1330, may na audition din ako na speakers paradigm monitor 9, bnw 683, polk rtia5 and klipsch rf62, halos mag ka price range sila dito. thanks :)
there's a big sound difference in the upgrade to MultEQ XT, very audible sya pag ni-on then off. can't wait to try MultEQ XT32...
pag nagmura na. :D
Magkano dyan Brader yung Denon AVR 4311, AVR-1912 at AVR-1611? TIA!
Hi bryan,
SoundOfMind gave you sound advice regarding this at the AVS Forums. And he said it well. :)
To add to that, based on my experience, getting the 4311 will max out the capabilities of your entry level speakers to the point that you may begin to notice its limitations and start looking for better speakers (but you will still notice an improvement over the entry level 1911). So in a sense, you are not maximizing the potential of the 4311 since it can improve SQ even more with much better speakers. That's what happened in my case, after the AVR upgrades and the transfer to a dedicated room with acoustic treatment, it became obvious that the weaker link was my speakers.
It might be better to invest in better speakers right now as well as mid-level receivers such as the 2312, 3312, or Onkyo 709-809, for a more overall balanced SQ improvement. Or go all out on speakers which you will keep for more years than the AVR, which comes out with new models every year--then ipon mode for the AVR, until the right time comes to get one. Baka by that time XT32 will trickle down to the mid-level AVRs at a cheaper price.
Yes Brader 2,200 nga lang dito..tapos yung 1611 nag-sale sila dito 999 dirhams na lang.. :)bro sa dubai ba yan?
bro sa dubai ba yan?
san ung shop dyan na lageng may sale for avr?
anung exact address and store..?
balak ko kasi magpabili sa bayaw ko salamat
Yes Brader sa Dubai Yung V.V. & Sons ang may hawak ng Denon at Marantz bale sa Dubai Mall meron silang Showroom tapos sa Sharaf DG sa TIME Square sale ngayon yung Denon at Marantz pero di yung mga latest model yung mga last model bago nilabas yung new model gaya ng 1911 at 1611 sa denon sa marantz di ko matandaan yung model...TIA!
ARC now working!!! Very convenient, 1 cable for I/O between receiver & tv!! :) great idea & great technology.
Love the 1912. :)
bro can you enlighten me with ARC in tagalog hahaha
i have onkyo htib with ARC
i have hdmi 1.4 cables
im not sure if ARC is same with the passthrough sensya na noob
turn on the receiver while connected to PS3
switch the receiver to stand by and I can still play ps3 with out the receiver being use
ayon ba ung capability ng arc?
bro can you enlighten me with ARC in tagalog hahaha
i have onkyo htib with ARC
i have hdmi 1.4 cables
im not sure if ARC is same with the passthrough sensya na noob
turn on the receiver while connected to PS3
switch the receiver to stand by and I can still play ps3 with out the receiver being use
ayon ba ung capability ng arc?
What youre doing is the receiver's capability to passthrough. Meaning kahit naka standby ang receiver mag papassthru pa din signal papunta sa tv coming from source connected to the AVR.
ARC is different. ARC is what brader louie has said.. Without any change in cables, your TV sound will be outputted sa receiver. No need to connect the TV HDMI, Optical or RCA outs to IN's nang receiver. :)
ung sounds na tv lalabas sa receiver?
sensya na papa courage ah noob e..
so what button should i select in receiver the receiver?
i can always select bd/dvd / vcr and games
Let me check my settings, though mine is Yamaha but it should be the same..
ung sounds na tv lalabas sa receiver?
so what button should i select in receiver the receiver?
yes.
sa Denon, you press the "TV" button, i.e. input is TV.
thanks i will try it later
did you put one end of hdmi 1.4 on your denon's HDMI output adn the other end to your TV(hdmi in)
hi. does any pdvd member own denon 3808. kindly give feedback.thanks
thanks sir...arrrgghhh....im being torn between 2 avr's....will just post a new thread. maraming salamat po ulet.
What's the other AVR? If you don't mind me asking... :)
Hello fellow Denon users :)masubukan nga. TY bro louie :)
Has anyone tried using the Virtual mode when listening to 2channel audio?
Ok naman cya, hindi masyadong tunog processed at naging wider ang soundstage compared to stereo mode ;D
I'll try to compare it with pure audio mode :D
Finally! Got my first AV Receiver: A Denon AVR-1612. Still setting up my home theater in our room.
how much was the damage bro?
Guys,
I'm planing to get a dedicated cd player and will connect it to my Denon 4311 through RCA(analog inputs).
If I will select "pure audio" mode will there be analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog conversion/processing in the Denon 4311 or will the analog signal be untouched by the Denon 4311?
Or is it better to use the cd player's digital output and let the Denon 4311 handle the digital-to-analog conversion?
Thanks a lot!!! :)
I think the 4311 can bypass conversion and digital processing in Pure Direct using the analogue inputs.
Guys,
I'm planing to get a dedicated cd player and will connect it to my Denon 4311 through RCA(analog inputs).
If I will select "pure audio" mode will there be analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog conversion/processing in the Denon 4311 or will the analog signal be untouched by the Denon 4311?
Or is it better to use the cd player's digital output and let the Denon 4311 handle the digital-to-analog conversion?
Thanks a lot!!! :)
So that means cdp's dac will do the conversion. typically naman mas maganda ang dac ng cdp compared to avr, right?
Hi Sir Louie. I think your Denon 4311 can handle the conversion to analogue. Sa pagka alam ko, high end av receivers have very good built-in DACs na. When the receiver is set to "Pure Audio" or "Pure Direct" mode in stereo, the sound quality is almost similar to that of an integrated amplifier. Your Denon's THD is 0.05% in stereo. Maganda na ang THD mo compared to integrated amps and Denon is also known for music.
Have a good weekend.
Yes, but that does not automatically mean that they will sound good together. Kailangan subukan muna.
1 April 2012
Denon Japan
Denon Launches new Flagship AV amplifier in Asia-Pacific - the replacement for the 4810, 4311 and AVC 1 - The AVR - 5113 aka - "Inakamono" 100th year APE (Asian Pacific Edition)
Denon signals it's recovery from the hiatus in new models with this flagship model which replaces three models at once, and introduces key new features in a new model which is the long expect replacement for the older 5xxx, 48xx and also the 43xx series, which have been soldering on due to damages to it's Fukushima facility as a result of the recent earthquake / tsunami twin disasters to hit Japan.
Dubbed fondly the Inakamono by it's R & D, this model promises a return to audiophile roots, whilst embracing several new important features, which have the Asian and in particular the Australian and NZ market in mind, which has long been overlooked by the USA and Europe ones.
This model will come in a silver-champagne blend, but the first 1000 will be available in more radical colors like Ferrari Red, Sake Brown, and Imperial Yellow as part of the 100th anniversary of Denon.
Key features:
Interface improvements:
- RS 232 port for installer and THX standards
- a new totally re-designed remote, with alpha-numeric keyboard on one side and a touch screen on the other, in addition to the standard remote, which is radio frequency allowing operation from another room (ala Bose)
- Apple lossless compatibility as well as Airplay function as standard with a iTunes-esque on screen menu
Power:
- Full 11.2 channel compatibility with 180W per channel time 11, all channels driven simultaneously
- Radical new power section with digital amplifier modules - Digital Universal Mono-Blocks ® which allow for 2 ohm function, lower weight and less cooling required and a resultant reduction in weight
- ability to tri-amp and power 2 ohm power hungry speakers (engineers at Fukushima have tested the amplifier on Electrostatic speakers)
- a special battery mode for brown outs and also for better sound quality – the amp has a patented Denon Brownout Special(BS) Auxiliary power mode that allows functioning in the event of outages, but more importantly for the fanatical audiophile, the option of an external battery power option which decreases any distortion due to an onboard power supply
Audiophile:
- MM and MC phono input as standard
- Merino Wool shielded circuits to decrease electrical interference
Researchers at Denon have found that Wool has even higher shielding properties compared to metallic compounds, and with the new Digital power amp section running cooler, Denon has been able to incorporate the finest Australian Merino Wool into a special weave which will shield sensitive areas of the amplifier
- a replacement for the Denon Link is now in it’s first iteration.
The new Fullrange Optical Overscan Link © has been touted to have a tenth of the distortion of the Denon Link cables, and allows for clock sync and jitter to be reduced to a never heard of 0.00001 %.
- 1 inch thick aluminum alloy casing for the minimal interference
Using the same material used to make aeroplane wings, Denon has been able to make the entire lower chassis of the amplifier from a single aluminum monoblock – ala Macbook Pro laptops.
Video:
- on screen display in 3D
- new video chip developed in house which allows for the ability to convert existing video and audio into a 3-dimensional experience. The Pseudo Interactive Sight & Sound ® (PISS) Chip is a radical new technology that challenges the frontier of 3D enhancement.
Denon Owner program:
- as a special reward to patient Denon fans who have been waiting for the longest time for this, there will be a Customer Harmony Experience Active Program Offer (CHEAPO) which will allow for previous Denon owners to bid at a price that they consider worthy for this new amplifier.
Barring any new disasters, this new model should be out in shops by April 31st. Pre-orders can be placed with your nearest Audiophile dealers now.
Got this news from AVSForums
For those that have the following models below, have you tried upgrading online for AirPlay?
AVR-991
AVR-3311CI
AVRA100
AVR-4311CI
http://usa.denon.com/us/Airplayus/index.html
Airplay Upgrade
Starting December 1, 2011, as the owner of a qualifying Denon receiver you are eligible for The Airplay Upgrade for no charge. Airplay enables your Denon receiver to receive and play music from your iTunes library over your home network. You can also use your iPhone, iPod touch or iPad to control your iTunes library as it plays remotely through your Denon receiver. A home network is required to get and use this feature upgrade.
Uyy brader Louie, mukang pag dumating yan mag uupgrade ka na naman he he he
Brader hindi ata kasama ang Asia sa mga pwedeng mag upgrade :(
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pano po mapalabas display sa tv using denon 1912 tapos htpc with ati 4650 vcard? may display naman pag sa bios hanggang sa logo ng windows pero pagdating po sa windows (nasa desktop na), nawawala na display.. installed current drivers and catalyst control center
Make sure that you're using a standard resolution.
Greetings to All!! I would like to ask where can I buy the cheapest DENON AVR-1612 in the Phippines? ???
As I've noticed 25k to 30k is the price range for Denon AVR-1612 in the local market, On a side note, it is currently being price @ $219 to $250 State side :o
Thanks for the links ZYZZ...
Heads Up!
Denon AVR-3312 is now on sale at Amazon for $549.99 from its former price of $1099: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci)
Cheers!
Heads Up!
Denon AVR-3312 is now on sale at Amazon for $549.99 from its former price of $1099: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci)
Denon AVR-4311 is down to $1599: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4311CI-Channel-Multi-Room-Receiver/dp/B0042KVX2S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-7&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4311CI-Channel-Multi-Room-Receiver/dp/B0042KVX2S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-7&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci)
Cheers!
sir anong equivalent ng Onkyo 509?
gusto ko sanang itry denon eh.
ok bang i-pare ang RTI A1 at sub dsw440
or wharfedale 10 series sa denon?
Thanks much ;D
Heads Up!
Denon AVR-3312 is now on sale at Amazon for $549.99 from its former price of $1099: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci)
Denon AVR-4311 is down to $1599: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4311CI-Channel-Multi-Room-Receiver/dp/B0042KVX2S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-7&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4311CI-Channel-Multi-Room-Receiver/dp/B0042KVX2S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-7&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci)
Cheers!
has anyone tried out playing a 3D bluray to a non-3D capable denon receiver then out to a 3D display? my bro confirmed that he was successful using a denon 2308 with his 3D bluray and plasma watching bluray 3D.
Ang pagkakaalam ko sir, dapat 3D-capable lahat, from source, amp, to tv. kasi from amp to tv dapat hdmi 1.4 para mag run yung 3D. Hindi kaya sir naka connect yung player diretso sa tv via hdmi 1.4 then out yung audio to amp via optical?
Ang pagkakaalam ko sir, dapat 3D-capable lahat, from source, amp, to tv. kasi from amp to tv dapat hdmi 1.4 para mag run yung 3D. Hindi kaya sir naka connect yung player diretso sa tv via hdmi 1.4 then out yung audio to amp via optical?
Puwede din 1.3 na HDMI for the 3D tried this one with my setup and smooth ang play.
has anyone tried out playing a 3D bluray to a non-3D capable denon receiver then out to a 3D display? my bro confirmed that he was successful using a denon 2308 with his 3D bluray and plasma watching bluray 3D.
Hi Guys,edit: lotte world philippines distributes them try looking for there numbers
does anyone of you knows of a service center for Denon?
kung meron sana sa South area mas ok but if not oks lang kahit saan.
and pwede po pa post na din ng mga contact numbers nila thanks.
edit: lotte world philippines distributes them try looking for there numbers
correct me if im wrong but i think architecture audio services denon. there at greenbelt.
thanks, will drop by at greenbelt after office hours.try messaging them here:
What speaker brands work well with Denon AVRs?in my experience, polk audio (OK), a-audio (a bit too warm), and svs s series (just right) :)
What speaker brands work well with Denon AVRs?
in my experience, polk audio (OK), a-audio (a bit too warm), and svs s series (just right) :)
What speaker brands work well with Denon AVRs?
What speaker brands work well with Denon AVRs?
I have tried the following:martin, which of the three delivers the best vocals? which is most efficient/generally louder? tia
Wharfedale's: Diamond 8 series - center, 8.3 floorstanders WH2 surrounds and US Audio 12' sub - character is very warm (better for music)
Infinity's Primus Series: Primus 360 floorstanders, Primus C25 center, Primus 150 surround and US Audio 12' sub - character is very bright (better for movies)
SVS S-Series: SCS-02's LCR, SBS-01 surrounds and SVS PB12NSD sub - character is perfect for both movie & music ;)
martin, which of the three delivers the best vocals? which is most efficient/generally louder? tiapa epal lang bro markcrenz:
martin, which of the three delivers the best vocals? which is most efficient/generally louder? tia
Mga sir, sino nakagamit sa inyo ng internet radio function sa denon receivers nyo? :-\
hindi pa kasi i never connected my denon sa modem or router eh.same here, akala ko kasi may kasama wifi yung 1912 ko :D :D (di kasi nagbabasa ng review maigi :P )
same here, akala ko kasi may kasama wifi yung 1912 ko :D :D (di kasi nagbabasa ng review maigi :P )
You're miss a lot of function if you don't connect your receiver sa network...planning to install 2 ethernet cables for the vt30 tv and my receiver (after 1 year, ngayon ko ang i-try :D)
Internet Radio
Use it as player for digital file
Remote it using your laptop or ipad and android tabs/phones
You're miss a lot of function if you don't connect your receiver sa network...
Internet Radio
Use it as player for digital file
Remote it using your laptop or ipad and android tabs/phones
You're miss a lot of function if you don't connect your receiver sa network...Bro wired or wireless connection? dongle? thanks
Internet Radio
Use it as player for digital file
Remote it using your laptop or ipad and android tabs/phones
Meron bang USB wifi dongle for DEnon AVR like sa mga Onkyos?
Hirap kasi wired magnetwork pag malayo yung wifi router :(
Madali lang yan.. bili ka isa pang wireless router with ethernet port na capable mag bridge.. Tapos itabi mo sa receiver.. Problem solved he he he... Ganyan setup ko dati.. pero since nilipat yung phone line sa kwarto sa kwarto ko na din nilagay yung Router.. pero dati alang router dun.. so nag bridge na lang ako..
Nababadtrip na nga ako sa wifi bridge na yan brader. Di ko mapagana, hehehe
Anong brand and model ang Main router mo at yung bridge device? Baka konting kalikot lang
Yung main router is naka dd-wrt na linksys. Tapos yung may universal bridge mode is Edimax. Check ko exact model mamaya brader. Thanks O0
Kung ayaw talaga... bili ka nang hot spot device talaga.. Pang hot spot lang... Kabit mo yang Denon sa network bro... Sayang ang features nyan... Ok din makinig sa Internet radio pag sawa ka na sa local stations...
May airplay din yan diba
May airplay kaya lang walang upgrade for Asia :(
Dati nung nasa Sta. Rosa pa yung set up nagagamit ko yung mga streaming nya. Maganda nga talaga pag nakanetwork. Wireless flac player ;D
Astig nga sarap mag play ng flac sa iphone bia airplay..kaso interested aq sa internet radio..meron ba sa inyo may nka gawa na?
Ok ba pairing ng Denon sa PSB? or sa KEF?
Thanks.
Yes, that's true. I have PSB Imagines and Denon 4311-Emotiva XPA5 in my 7.2 HT setup. And just recently, I set up a simpler 5.1 setup in the Multi-Purpose Room at the office with Denon 3312 and previous generation PSB Image speakers: B25 fronts, C60 center, B15 surrounds and Subseries 1 sub.
Big time talaga si brader Arn! ;)
Madali lang yan.. bili ka isa pang wireless router with ethernet port na capable mag bridge.. Tapos itabi mo sa receiver.. Problem solved he he he...
D-OH!!! thanks for the info!!! will try this now. :)
works like a charm! 8) 8) 8) can't believe i've only listened to internet radio just now! which rock stations do you guys recommend? been listening to 99.5 KISS Rocks and 100hitz 90s Alternative.
now streaming through media server and controlling everything via Galaxy S3. will try AirPlay tonight.
My opinion is 4520 isn't worth the difference to the 4311. If you want to save cash go for the 4311 model.
Consumer 4k is still a few years away and you can find a internet router for less that 1500, 9.2 is only for big rooms and most blu rays today are mixed in 7.1.
edit: read more about the new 4520 and they say the interface is much easier to use than the 4311. New is audyssey LFC which is like dolby volume but instead it tames the bass so it does not disturb your neighbors.
here's more info you can custom disable amps on the 4520, on the 4311 you an only turn off all amps.
InstaPreVue mode which will display small PIP previews of other hdmi devices connected to your receiver. You also get dts neoX
Bro anong wifi repeater gamit mo? Thanks :)
Something to dream about... >:D
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4520CI-Networking-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0092KZCKC (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4520CI-Networking-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0092KZCKC)
My opinion is 4520 isn't worth the difference to the 4311. If you want to save cash go for the 4311 model.
Consumer 4k is still a few years away and you can find a internet router for less that 1500, 9.2 is only for big rooms and most blu rays today are mixed in 7.1.
edit: read more about the new 4520 and they say the interface is much easier to use than the 4311. New is audyssey LFC which is like dolby volume but instead it tames the bass so it does not disturb your neighbors.
here's more info you can custom disable amps on the 4520, on the 4311 you an only turn off all amps.
InstaPreVue mode which will display small PIP previews of other hdmi devices connected to your receiver. You also get dts neoX
For me, SVS brader. Hanep talaga ang tunog nya. Even sa vocal and dialogue brader, loud, crisp and clear. ;)
brader how much ba ang svs set up na ganito ?
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hi guys,bump! mine just turned 1 year old, never went online ... still awesome :D
i have a 1912 for almost about a year but haven't update or connected this to any internet connection, am i missing software updates or is it ok that i just leave it as is? i haven't had a chance to even listen to internet radio?
tia
hi guys,
i have a 1912 for almost about a year but haven't update or connected this to any internet connection, am i missing software updates or is it ok that i just leave it as is? i haven't had a chance to even listen to internet radio?
tia
still looking for my first receiver,,,,anong model ng denon should i get? budget 30k to 50k for the receiver. will use it to power either wharfdales or polk. room is about 15ftx18ftx9ft. thanks...hey dollarman. still having trouble? isnt the pioneer lx 53 a good enough model? well if your look at denon the n Denon AVR-2112 or the 1912 would be my pics.
well, i did follow ur advice and went auditioning last weekend. yep polk and wharfdales for me. i did get to listen to the yamaha and onkyo. so expanding my choices. ill take a look at this avr 2112
[/quotewell, i did follow ur advice and went auditioning last weekend. yep polk and wharfdales for me. i did get to listen to the yamaha and onkyo. so expanding my choices. ill take a look at this avr 2112
Why dont you try the 13' models.
2113 is available here in pinas na.
Help mga sir.
I have denon 1912 and it is set to:
HDMI audio out - AMP
HDMI Control - ON
Ang problema kapag naka-on ang amp sa tv parin lumalabas ung sound. pag inoff ko ung control ok na sya sa speakers na lumalabas sound pero kailangan ko kc ng passthrough pag nakapatay ang amp.
ang source ko ay pc hdmi output.
tinry ko pati xbox ganun din.
naencounter nyo na ba ang ganito?
FYI nagkaproblem rin ako sa HDMI cables parang namimili sya ng cable from HDMI monitor out to TV. sa ngayon ang gamit ko ay ganito:
PC > HDMI 1 using Audiopro HDMI 1.3b
Xbox > HDMI 2 using Audiopro HDMI 1.3b
HDMI monitor out > LED TV (LG 32LE5500) using 1.4 HDMI cable
posible kayang kailangan ko magpalit ng lahat 1.4 cables para sa problem na to?
Thanks in advance sir.
the price jump for DENON 3313 to the 4520 is huge. so theres no model to fill in that gap?
the price jump for DENON 3313 to the 4520 is huge. so theres no model to fill in that gap?
Guys newbie lang po ako,ask ko lang do you think it is good to pair Denon avr-2113 to boston speakers for 5.1 or 7.1 set up? I tried auditioning the same set up here in qatar kaso for music lang, how about for movies?
Though sa musics maganda sya and nagustuhan ko yung quality nya
May quote ang isang pdvd guru which I like and agree (I forgot who he is): "If its good for music then its good in HT, but not the other way around" :D Boston Acoustic ba? Sabi ng friend ko ok naman daw for music although Onkyo gamit nya so I suppose mas maganda sya kung Denon (correct me if Im wrong)
I used to believe this also but I think this is not always true especially with speakers. Lalo na if ang type mong music are mellow, slow, soft... You tend to get warm sounding speakers which for me are kinda "bitin" and sounds too soft when it comes to HT application...
Preference pa din talaga... :)
Agree with the preference, kaya siguro marami ang may dedicated speakers for HT and for audio :) but for me, HT application is not much of critical listening compared to music so I think being warm, laid back, etc is not too much of concern when it comes to HT ;D yun naman e sa akin lang ulit ;)
Need your advice mga master which one should i choose Denon AVR-3311 or AVR-2312 ? TIA!3311 bro :)
3311 bro :)
btw magkano 3311 ngayon?
Tanong lang po..
Denon AVR-3311 230V 50hz pwede po kaya sa pinas ito di po ba magkaka-problema yung x-former ko kapag matagal na ginagamit? dahil sa AC natin 60hz....TIA!
Pwede yan... Wala naman motor sa loob ang AVR, hehehehe ;D
Wow!!! Sayo ba yan bro? Congrats!!!
Mga brader baka meron sa inyo gusto ng Denon AVC-A1HDA Php 235,000 ......Bagong bago...
Sensya na Mr. moderator sa OT....
Di po brader SALE sya kasi dito sa kinalalagyan ko....hehehehe
Yung kakakuha ko lang yung 3311....pang maliitan lang budget ko brader... ;D ;D
Wow naka-SALE pa pala yang P235K na price nya... Grabe... At that price Marantz separates na lang tayo, hehehe ;Dyun ba hahakutin natin tomorrow bro? ;D
also been reading the thread from page 35 and some in the net..noticed that others after calibration, audyssey have the channel levels of the speakers on the negative side (e.g -5, -2)..mine is always at a minimum of +2db..after all these years didn't really compare my settings to others..maybe my speakers are hard to drive?hmmmnnhard to drive speakers or the room interaction e.g. too much absorbers
Has anyone tried using its bi-amping capabilities? did it improve the sound quality?tried it, improved highs. note that it could be placebo, but i never believed the idea of bi-amp and bi-wire. but tried it since i had extra wires (long story). :)
Thank you
hard to drive speakers or the room interaction e.g. too much absorbers
btw ano pala speaker mo?
d)3. Where should I position the mic for best results?
The first mic position should always be at the Main Listening Position (because it is used to determine the distances and levels of each speaker). The other positions should be either side at roughly 2 feet intervals and then in front and behind if possible. The order of the positions after the first position does not matter. It is very important to avoid extreme positions - so never put the mic up against the back wall or outside the angle spanned by the front Left and Right speakers. Taking measurements in these positions will cause MultEQ to make unnecessary adjustments. The mic should be at the same height as your main L&R speakers' tweeters, which in turn should ideally be at ear height. It is not generally advised to place the mic higher or lower than the physical location of the tweeters (but see the exception noted below). However, there are many setups where it is not possible for the tweeters to be at ear height; in these cases, place the mic at the spot where the speakers are aimed (it is usually advisable to aim the speakers towards the MLP by 'toeing-in the L&R speakers and angling the centre speak up or down - but do take the advice of your speaker manufacturer on toe-in as some designs perform best when not toed-in).
Exception: if your chair backs are quite high, you will need to raise the mic so that it can 'see' the rear surrounds or surrounds. Also, do not put the mic closer than about 12 to 15 inches to the backrest of the chair, even if this means it is not exactly where your head is when listening.
The graphic to the right shows Audyssey's recommended mic placements for a typical room and seating arrangement. Always start with mic position 1 at the Main Listening Position and then use the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc positions as shown, up to the maximum your version of Audyssey allows.
•Use only the microphone included with your AVR. If you cannot find it, contact the manufacturer for a replacement.
•Attach your microphone to a mic stand (preferably) or tripod.
•Take the measurements at ear height and with the mic facing the ceiling.
•Start the measurements from the primary listening location and spread out from there.
•Approximate distance from the first measurement position is 2 feet in any direction.
•Focus on the central listening area and avoid extreme positions such as the back wall or too far beyond the left and right speakers.
For more information about the graphic and mic placement in general, visit Audyssey's own guide to mic placement - linked below.
One more point about the Main Listening Position. If you are primarily interesting in getting the best result for just one seat (either because you are the only listener or you are the only listener who really cares about audio fidelity), then place the mic for position 1 at the centre of that seat. If, however, you wish to consider other seats, then place the mic in the centre of the listening area for position 1.
Magkano kaya locally ang Denon 4520CI?
149,999 SRP ;)
149,999 SRP ;)
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less 100k dito sa disyerto :) :) :) :)
the price jump for DENON 3313 to the 4520 is huge. so theres no model to fill in that gap?denon 1713 sale sa Listening room Megamall 14,995
denon 1713 sale sa Listening room Megamall 14,995bro the question was a model in between DENON 3313 to the 4520, not under 3313 :)
bro the question was a model in between DENON 3313 to the 4520, not under 3313 :)sorry bro nagkamali ako ng quote.
Any denon 1713 users here. any feed back. Thinking of upgrading my old hk130. Matching it with my polk a3. Any thoughts? its on sale at 15k. Is this a good buy at 15k?sa technology panalo ka sa 1713, but coming from hk130 medyo bitin ang upgrade mo sa power.
^_Denon Fanboy pa din si Brader Jammy. :) :)yessir mahirap i-deny kasi :D
Mga sir tanung lang po. Binebenta sakin ng kapatid ko yung denon 1312 niya at pure acoustic supernova 5 speaker galing DUBAI ng 15,000 lahat na. Last year niya lang nabili at bihira niyang magamit ksi pag nauwi lang siya ng pinas nagagamit..mura na yan bro :)
Mura napo ba yun o mahal? Wala pa kasi ako ganong alam sa mga ht e.. sana po may makasagot.. salamat!
Any denon 1713 users here. any feed back. Thinking of upgrading my old hk130. Matching it with my polk a3. Any thoughts? its on sale at 15k. Is this a good buy at 15k?
Up! Anyone. I just sold my Onkyo 313 and considering the Denon 1713 (or even the 1513). How the sound?
^_Pero bakit mo binenta po yung 3313 meron po bang di ok sa 3313 ? ??? ??? ???
I used to have Denon 3313 and sold it then bought onkyo 818. I think Denon would fit your needs as it is more musical compared to Onkyo. Onkyo has more slam while Denon is more accurate and controled bass. Mas malambing Denon compared to Onkyo
good match po ba ang mga Denon receivers sa Wharfedale 10 series speakers? thanks
good match po ba ang mga Denon receivers sa Wharfedale 10 series speakers? thanksnot recommended bro, at least try to audition it first.
If you are into a "warm" sounding HT, then this is the way to go. But if you are looking for a "bright" sounding HT, its a no no.eto pala follow this advice from bro marts :)
If you are into a "warm" sounding HT, then this is the way to go. But if you are looking for a "bright" sounding HT, its a no no.
im into a warm sounding ht po sir, currently using a pio vsx 522 receiver for my wharfe 10series speakers. thanksmake sure na hindi side grade gawin mo bro.
make sure na hindi side grade gawin mo bro.
kuha ka ng 19xx pataas na model
Mga sir, would like to get your opinions.
Good match ba ang denon1513 with infinity primus 363 speakers?
I demoed a Denon 1909 with thos speakers way back 2009 and I can definitely say they are a good match.
eto pala follow this advice from bro marts :)
Musta bro!! :)
im into a warm sounding ht po sir, currently using a pio vsx 522 receiver for my wharfe 10series speakers. thanks
Mga sir, would like to get your opinions.
Good match ba ang denon1513 with infinity primus 363 speakers?
I am so excited! My denon x4000 will arrive next week. Bought it thru best buys employee purchase program at unbelievably low price. 8) Drooling with audysseys new feature like lfc and dual sub equalization. Looking forward to buying 2 ultra 13. Andami pang accommodations being offered to best buy employees. I would have chosen marantz 7008 if not of the new features of denon. I love best buy!
Sir nogie...
Ano bang new features nang X4000 na wala sa SR-7008?
Ibig kong sabihin bro kung wala yong features ng x4000 na parehas sa 7008 marantz sana kinuha ko.hehehe bro nogie di ka na marunong magtagalog ;D
hehehe bro nogie di ka na marunong magtagalog ;D
baka pwede ka naman mag ship ng denon dito :D
Ibig kong sabihin bro kung wala yong features ng x4000 na parehas sa 7008 marantz sana kinuha ko.
I see :)
Actually yan din before pinagpipilian ko sir Nogie, X4000 or SR7008 because both have basically the same features except for the 9channels of Sr7008 ^-^
I see :)
Actually yan din before pinagpipilian ko sir Nogie, X4000 or SR7008 because both have basically the same features except for the 9channels of Sr7008 ^-^
Brader alam ko mas maganda 4520 mo, mas bago lang itong X4000 ;)
ang laki kasi ng price difference pero halos same specs.
Nyak... Wala akong Denon 4520 brader ;D
Pangarap lang yan at 150K presyo nyan dito... :'(
Dito din sir Nogie, around 10K ang price difference nila...
Nyak... Wala akong Denon 4520 brader ;D
Pangarap lang yan at 150K presyo nyan dito... :'(
Dito din sir Nogie, around 10K ang price difference nila...
Nyak... Wala akong Denon 4520 brader ;D
Pangarap lang yan at 150K presyo nyan dito... :'(
I blind auditioned the 7008 and x4000 using klipsch f30 fs speakers in stereo mode. I ask a geek squad associate to help me in the audition. Nakatalikod ako at nakablindfold....Parehas lang ang tunog. :)
Pio pala yung sa yo! Tsuri naman brader :) pero tingin ko kayang kaya mo naman yan bilhin ;)
Hahaha! ;D
Thanks for the info sir Nogie.
Sarap talaga dyan place mo ngayon, readily available magagandang gears para maaudition agad ^-^
Ako nag-u-unbox pag me bagong dating at libre din audition kasi duon ako naassign sa TV at Home Theaters. :)
Kaya lang me reklamo sa akin Manager ko. Mula daw dumating ako humina na raw sales nila sa # 1 selling nila na Bose Cinemate 1 at sobrang taas daw sales nila ng AVR at Speakers. Pero mas masaya naman manager kasi malaki ang margins sa speakers kesa sa overprice na Bose. :)
Mga sir, would like to get your opinions.I used to power the 363 with denon 1713. Ok naman ang tunog it's not bright. and it's not warm. nasa gitna lang.
Good match ba ang denon1513 with infinity primus 363 speakers?
^i checked onkyo 313's specs and it was 100watts @ 6ohms while denon 1713 is 80watts @ 8ohms, so that difference REALLY matter with their sounds? kala ko pa naman mas angat na si 1713 kay 313.
^first AVR ko kasi if ever kaya mga entry levels lang muna tinitingnan ko, taka lang ako bakit ganun naging scenario given na same sila halos ng output. maliit lang naman yung room namin kaya entry level muna
The Wharfedale has high sensitivity; they are not power hungry. The problem is with the receiver that cannot release full dynamics because of high impedance output.
heto reply nung seller regarding sa bakit mahina yung na-test na denon 1713 sa wharf 9.1
^pero na-drive siya ni onkyo 313?
Diamond 9
BASS 4
TWEETER 25mm tex
POWER 15-75W
NOMINAL IMPEDANCE 6ohm
SENSITIVITY 86dB
FREQUENCY 60-24k @ -6dB
CROSSOVER 2.2k
FREQUENCY FB 55Hz
DIMENSIONS 145x236x165
Diamond 9.SR
BASS 4
TWEETER 25mm tex
POWER 10-60W
NOMINAL IMPEDANCE 6ohm
SENSITIVITY 88dB
FREQUENCY 70-24k @ -6dB
CROSSOVER 2.2k
FREQUENCY FB 70Hz
DIMENSIONS 185x236x117
Diamond 9.CC
BASS 4
TWEETER 25mm tex
POWER 15-120W
NOMINAL IMPEDANCE 6ohm
SENSITIVITY 88dB
FREQUENCY 80-24k @ -6dB
CROSSOVER 2.8k
FREQUENCY FB 70kHz
DIMENSIONS 330x120x130(height on spike & plinth 128)
Diamond 9 SW100
Diameter 200mm
Power Handling 100 Watss Rms
Freq 35-85 Hz
^not yet, plano ko bilhin eh polk speakers but the Tsi series only. i guess i have to audition myself, na-curious lang talaga ko sa impression ng friend ko kay denon
^i dont know if full potential but enough for my friend to buy the onkyo+wharf combo since sabi niya nasa 50% palang volume eh ramdam na nya, while denon @ 70% eh mahina pa din.
^i checked onkyo 313's specs and it was 100watts @ 6ohms while denon 1713 is 80watts @ 8ohms, so that difference REALLY matter with their sounds? kala ko pa naman mas angat na si 1713 kay 313.
(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/okel_okel/Denonx4000.jpg)ganda ng future receiver ko bro ;)
I got it! Woohoooo!
ganda ng future receiver ko bro ;)After 2 years bro. 2 years contract to with employer. :)
kailan mo i-ship yan sa pinas? ;D
After 2 years bro. 2 years contract to with employer. :)nice!!
I didn't see any display of Denon receivers during the HIFI Show. Sino pa ba nagbebenta locally?
Ang alam ko sir kinikeri nila avshop(Marc), TEIN at Listening in Style ang Denon...
^sir louie, meron ako denon avr1913 90W 8 Ohms at 125W 6 Ohms
Have you bought the Whafedales already?
If you are set in getting the Denon AVR, I suggest listening to other easy to drive speakers like Polk Audio TSx series... ;)
sir louie, meron ako denon avr1913 90W 8 Ohms at 125W 6 Ohms
Di kaya underpower pag bumili ako ng Polk TRiA7 20-300W 8 ohms 89db
My trusty 1911 is faulty. Every time I turn on the receiver, it will boot normally but after 5-10 secs it will go to standby mode (red LED blinking on the main power button).
Read the manual, it says it could be due to one of the following:
1. The amp may have overheated - I dont think this is the case, coz I haven't used it when I turned it on. The amp is not even warm yet.
2. Shorted speaker wires - what I did is remove all speakers, even all cablings (HDMI, interconnect), still the same.
3. Unit amplifier has failed, contact Denon - this is what I suspect
Anyone has the same problem before? Although I don't mind bringing my receiver for repair, you guys think its still worth it? Probably if the cost is too expensive, might as well buy a new one. Problem is I have no idea on how much will the repair costs.
Thanks in advance.
Solution:
Upgrade :)
He he he... Joke lang sir...
Pa check mo muna.. kung mahal nga masyado, get a new one or a 2nd hand na mataas model..
Di ba merong reset yang Denon did you try it already? check the manual meron ba nakalagay dun how to reset the AVR ?
Finally decided to get the super value Denon AVR 1713. I hope it wont disappoint like the Onkyo SR-313 did.if the onkyo disappointed you bro, im sure denon wont :)
Will post review later.
if the onkyo disappointed you bro, im sure denon wont :)
Mas musical yun denon and opposite sila ng onkyo ng characteristic. Also mas mataas na modelo denon 1713 vs 313 :)
Congrats Philander! Ano ba ang kulang sa dating Onkyo mo sir?
Read my non-professional review here (based on actual experience)
Well the Denon 1713 DID NOT disappoint. ALMOST Marantz-like sound quality.ah nice :)
Happy guy here.
Any reviews of the Denon 1713?
^Thanks! This is looking like a good option for me. May I know what speakers you are using with the Denon? I currently have an Onkyo 494 + Mission M73 combo (+ M7c1). Not too sure if the Mission will be compatible with Denon, might be an excuse to upgrade as well.
^Thanks! This is looking like a good option for me. May I know what speakers you are using with the Denon? I currently have an Onkyo 494 + Mission M73 combo (+ M7c1). Not too sure if the Mission will be compatible with Denon, might be an excuse to upgrade as well.
Could not resist - got the Denon 1713 :)After setting up audyssey, if the center is a bit less. You can add more 2-4 "db" on the settings to increase it
After fiddling around with it the past 3 hours, just a few initial observations: (bear in mind, this is from someone whose previous receiver is a 12 year old Onkyo :) )
Hope this helps i have denon 1913
1. No more need for optical cable and coax cable for my PS3 and DVD player. Yey! The same with me mostly i use hdmi
2. I have no idea what this Audyssey thing is, but after trying it out during the initial set-up, I disabled it. Used my trusty SPL instead. After checking google, looks like I'll have to study it further. Initially i had the same doubt about audyssey and relied on my ears. But finally i set up audyssey in the middle of the night to minimize unwanted noise. Voila i became satisfied.
Questions for current owners:
1. Did you guys connect your digibox (Skycable or Cablelink) to the receiver? Don't have digibox can't answer this but denon has HDMI "pass through" and Denon AVR will "pass through" HDMI video and audio when the Denon is on Standby
a. If I do this, I guess it means the sound from my TV will come out of my speakers? For HDMI connection yes if the Denon is "ON"
b. If I turn on the TV and digibox but turn off the receiver, will the sound come from TV's speakers? or will there be no sound at all? For HDMI connection No if the denon is unplugged but if its on Standby "Yes"
2. Is it normal that the volume level for the PS3 is higher than for a regular DVD player? In my case, it's just
40 if I play a regular DVD, but to get the same volume for a blu ray disc, I have to set the volume at 60. Yes, it's differenct which player you are using
3. Are the audio settings peculiar to each user? Or can you guys post your settings for audio? Parang initially, when I used Audyssey, all I could hear were sound effects and barely audible vocals. When I turned off Audyssey and did manual set up, it's a bit better but still not to my satisfaction.
Additional question:IIRC raptor was fairly satisfied with Dali + Denon combo.
Does anyone currently own a Denon + Dali or Denon + Boston Acoustics combination? I'd appreciate feedback on how good (or bad) they sound. Thanks!
After 3 tries with Audyssey, my subwoofer trim level is still at -12 dB (other speaker levels are in -5dB to -8dB range).
I already did the 50% volume level, direct input and other recommended settings for the sub. I don't however, use a tripod or microphone stand. Hehe.
I read in one of the FAQs that the subwoofer level should ideally be in the +- 3.5dB range. Can I just set it to that?
It depends on the sub. The important thing is that after the calibration, check the level of the sub. It should not hit -12 db or +12 db (those are the limits of the Denon receivers).
The usual problem is that the level is set at -12 db, which means that the volume knob is too high. Just lower it a bit and then re-run Audyssey.
I have a denon x4000 which has audyssey multi32. During calibration, the first thing it does is ask you to adjust the subwoofer volume to 50 percent. It will then activate the sub and ask you to adjust the volume knob until it reaches a certain level.
I did this but i still wanted more punch so i had to adjust manually.
I have a denon x4000 which has audyssey multi32. During calibration, the first thing it does is ask you to adjust the subwoofer volume to 50 percent. It will then activate the sub and ask you to adjust the volume knob until it reaches a certain level.
I did this but i still wanted more punch so i had to adjust manually.
And Audyssey MultiEQ XT32 is geared towards better dual sub calibration...
You should try it, there's an ongoing sale of SVS PB12nsd >:D
Aside from Denon + Dali and Denon + Mission, could you please post other speakers which sound good with Denon receivers? I'm trying to expand the list of speakers to audition. Thanks!
^thanks! would you know which PH store sells them? i'll need to check if they're within my budget. Baka di kaya.
Aside from Denon + Dali and Denon + Mission, could you please post other speakers which sound good with Denon receivers? I'm trying to expand the list of speakers to audition. Thanks!
Additional question:
Does anyone currently own a Denon + Dali or Denon + Boston Acoustics combination? I'd appreciate feedback on how good (or bad) they sound. Thanks!
Aside from Denon + Dali and Denon + Mission, could you please post other speakers which sound good with Denon receivers? I'm trying to expand the list of speakers to audition. Thanks!
my contribution, based on personal experience of equipment that i own/owned, not expert review -
Onkyo 603 + Dali Concept 6 (good pairing, but i find the sound too sharp)
Denon 1909 + Dali Concept 6 (much better than with Onkyo, especially after Audyssey setup)
Denon 1909 + A-Audio Genesis FS (best combination for me, the Genesis are much easier to listen to even at higher volumes, great mids and bass extension)
Any Denon users with Polk Audio or Definitive Technology?
Any Denon users with Polk Audio or Definitive Technology?
Thanks for all the suggestions. Summarizing, for all who may be interested in the future, the following speakers sound good with Denons:
1. Mission;
2. Dali;
3. KEF;
4.Boston Acoustic; and
5. Goldenear.
^Paul, nahahalata na ba na confused na ako sa available choices? When I first set up my system in 2002, I think the only choices were Mission, Wharf and B&W. Hahaha!
Anyway, back on topic, and just to add to the list (for the sake of those as confused as me):
1. Mission;
2. Dali;
3. KEF;
4.Boston Acoustic;
5. Goldenear;
6. A-Audio Genesis;
7. Acoustic Energy;
8. Definitive Technology;
9. SVS speakers.
^Paul, nahahalata na ba na confused na ako sa available choices? When I first set up my system in 2002, I think the only choices were Mission, Wharf and B&W. Hahaha!
Anyway, back on topic, and just to add to the list (for the sake of those as confused as me):
1. Mission;
2. Dali;
3. KEF;
4.Boston Acoustic;
5. Goldenear;
6. A-Audio Genesis;
7. Acoustic Energy;
8. Definitive Technology;
9. SVS speakers.
Would a Denon 1709 be still a good buy for 13k brand new? After reading reviews, plenty have mentioned that its weakest link is the inability of its hdmi connection to throw or pass audio.
Anyone who has experience with this model?
Big Price drop in Denon x2000 in the US $399 na lang sa amazon http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X2000-Integrated-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00CALM2KS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1400584157&sr=1-1&keywords=denon+x2000. just bought mine today thru my friend in the US.. 2 months waiting mode...hohoho can't wait to listen my new toy....
Mga bossing, may issue b ang x2000? Cant seem to get the iphone connect to the receiver even original ung usb cable. Want to play spotify from iphone and out to avr apeakers. Pero ayaw mag connect. Previously nagawa ko na ito but after na relocate ko ung denon sa condo ayaw n marecognize ng denon ung iphone.
anong mas malakas ang amp/watts per channel denon x4100 or onkyo 807?
i think si X4100, yun lumang X4000 ang lakas eh bro hehe what more itong bago :)130w/ch yun onkyo 807 (i know di accurate)
130w/ch yun onkyo 807 (i know di accurate)
sa x4100 ba 130w/ch ?
It's rated at 200W @ 6 ohms, 1 channel driven w/ 1kHz @ 1% THD.ty master vs. the onkyo 807 though, ano kaya ang rate nya? close to 60w/ch ng denon?
I expect the 4100 to deliver closer to 60W/channel cleanly with all channels driven.
ty master vs. the onkyo 807 though, ano kaya ang rate nya? close to 60w/ch ng denon?
Yup. Bench tests show around 70w/ch.
Yup. Bench tests show around 70w/ch.ty master
ty master
might as well get a higher end denon or onkyo :)
Bagay sa M-series mo bro yung Denon X5200 ;)pang louie18 lang yun lol
ty master
might as well get a higher end denon or onkyo :)
pang louie18 lang yun lol
oo nga ano. santissima purissima that price tag... sana may purisma discount hahaha
What are the choice denon av receivers released in 2014? Take note, never said the best.
Here's the SRP ng new upcoming Denon Atmos Ready receivers
** NEW MODELS COMING SOON!!
Denon X510 5.2 - P19,500
Denon X1100 7.2 - P29,500
Denon X2100 7.2 - P40,500
Denon X4100 7.2/9.2/13.2 Pre-Out - P75,000
Denon X5200 9.2/11.2/13.2 Pre-Out - P128,000
Denon X4520 9.2/13.2 Pre-Out - P149,990
Ok kaya combination ng Denon x4100 with Bose accoustimass 10 series V.?? For movies purposes mga brad. Gusto kasi ni misis bose :) Tnx
ok na ba yung Denon X5200W sa presyong 85,000? ;D ;D ;D
Ano ano ang soeaker na puwedeng ipartner sa denon? :) :) :)
★ NEW DENON RECEIVERS ★
► Denon AVR X520 BT 5.2 : P19,500
► Denon AVR X1200 7.2 Dolby Atmos / DTS-X : P29,500
► Denon AVR X2200 7.2 Dolby Atmos / DTS-X : P40,500
► Denon AVR X4200 7.2/9.2/13.2 Pre-Out Dolby Atmos / DTS-X / Auro3D : P75,000
► Denon AVR X6200 9.2/11.2/13.2 Pre-Out Dolby Atmos / DTS-X / Auro3D : P107,000
► Denon AVR X7200 9.2/11.2/13.2 Pre-Out Dolby Atmos / DTS-X / Auro3D : P175,000
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Would this mean that the prices for the X2100 will go down?
Pls refrain from posting advertisement or direct selling. Lets use the forum to discuss the merits of your products. You can create your own thread under AV Shops forum and you can post all your promos there.
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Ang tagal ng Denon X6200!!! Grabe inip na inip nako. In premium silver please!
Sir,first of all, there is no right or wrong answer here, its only UK vs US. B&W is UK, Polk Audio is US.Thank you for taking the time to answer my newbie questions, I really appreciate it.
but to compare: B&W speakers requires more amp juice to realize its full potential as compared to Polk Audio which is easier to drive.
you also need to consider receiver-speaker matching.
Denon is warm + Polk Audio with bright sound signature will result into neutral sound.
Denon is warm + B&W warm signature will result into warmer sound.
choose which sounds better to you, dont delve too much on power wattage because most manufacturers tend to claim higher power wattage on their receivers due to stiff competition in the market.it likewise applies to speaker manufacturers.
my vote goes to Polk Audio rtiA9 because of the following:
1. B& W speakers are a bit more pricey but not better on quality;
2. B & W requires more power wattage on its speakers;
3. Polk Audio sounds better for me.
i like your dilemma, because either choice is ok.
PS: there is already a full blown discussion on the previous thread here entitled B&W 683 vs Polk RTIA9.
I find the bw 600 series a little laidback rather than warm, but that's just me; while Denon may sound warm to others but I would describe mine as smooth sounding.Hi Sir, do you mind if I ask what you mean by "laidback rather than warm"?
Hi Sir, do you mind if I ask what you mean by "laidback rather than warm"?
character of its midrange
the only way to differentiate laidback from warm is by actual experience,better if speakers is on a side by side comparison. if you will hear only one speaker, mahirap i differentiate.
so you need to audition laidback speakers, warm speakers, neutral speakers and bright speakers.
Tonight I finally had the chance to take my Denon x2200 and audition both the Polk Audio RTI A9's and the B&W 683 S2's (in two separate stores since neither store had both present in store for direct side by side). My wife and I personally preferred the B&W's sound over the Polk A9's
I personally found the sound of the B&W to be fuller and better rounded when matched to my Denon x2200w. So I bought the B&W 683 S2's!
Thanks for your advise guys!
you already have a trained ear bossing...you have chosen the right one! 89db, so fairly easy to drive pa din just like the a9. it can also produce 110db of accoustic energy given 128watts of power. but on a hindsight, sensitivity is not the first priority in choosing a speaker, its the dynamic range. you have gotten a speaker with a very good dynamic range...
for me,im not comfortable buying online like lazada. before buying audio gears, i make sure to have thorough inspection of the unit first.
as to the price naman, mas mura pa rin (though minimal) sa mga audio shops kung cash price mo bibilhin even with the added transpo.
yung mga kakilala ko presently situated abroad madalas bumili ng audio gears to be delivered to their house due to distance and lack of time. pero kung nasa Metro Manila ka naman and have the time, better puntahan mismo yung audio shop.
guys question. i was playing around the decoder indicator of my x520bt by playing various test files from this site:
http://www.demo-world.eu/2d-demo-trailers-hd/
my unit says can play dolby trueHD but the dolby indicator doesn't show up. the setting is "direct" all other formats were ok. im using minix neo x7, mx player app, pass through enabled.
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perhaps someone here can help. tnx!
Source is set to passthrough and avr set direct. Mx player and xbmc say trueHD yet cant see the avr's indicator that it's trueHD
im not sure if i figured it out - it displays dts or dolby pero doesn't indicate the type of dts/dolby :( the generic indicator lights up.
hi, my old denon 2808 is shutting off and goes into protect mode (blinking power button) when I change source or play/pause. Once it starts playing well, it will work properly until I play the next video.Just curious, does this happen when there are no speakers connected?
I already tried rewiring and resetting the device. Also tried diff speakers and i think even headphones.
some youtube vids say its usually cause by a broken capacitor.
Know any reputable repair shops other than the official denon service center?
Just curious, does this happen when there are no speakers connected?
@flashDB ano gamit mong speaker?
I am planning to get the x520BT rin kase, then Wharfedale Diamond 220 (match kaya sila?)
Based sa experience mo would you recommend it?
Baka pwede ka naman mag bigay ng short review kahit, pro/cons :)
Saan ka pala bumili?
Hi PDVD, I have a denon 3312, gusto ko sana upgrade kahit 2nd hand basta may spotify. Di ko kabisado model line up ng mga bagong denon. Nakita ko un 3313 meron ng spotify. Ano pong model ang ma ssuggest nyo na hindi downgrade sa 33xx series? budget po siguro mga 10-15k on top of what I can get from my old denon 3312. Thanks! :)
Hi PDVD, I have a denon 3312, gusto ko sana upgrade kahit 2nd hand basta may spotify. Di ko kabisado model line up ng mga bagong denon. Nakita ko un 3313 meron ng spotify. Ano pong model ang ma ssuggest nyo na hindi downgrade sa 33xx series? budget po siguro mga 10-15k on top of what I can get from my old denon 3312. Thanks! :)
where can i find good deals of denon receivers locally?
denon has finally released their firmware update to enable DTS-X :)
just sharing. this happened about 3 weeks ago.
so far it works great!
Match kay 220. pero higher than 220 no na. Bitin na si 520..
I brought my Denon 1909 to Beyond Innovations for servicing 2 weeks ago, I was told that they would provide me a quote in one week and I have to approve before they start working on it ... over a week passed and no feedback from them so I called them last Friday, and I was assured that the quote will be sent within the same day, but none was sent ... I've been trying to call them again since Monday, but all their contact numbers are either busy or not in service, and their website is down ... any news? di naman siguro sila nagsara
Hi!
AVR-X520BT w/ HARMAN KARDON HKTS11B bundle (10inch 200 watts subs,5.1 ht 35hz -20khz, 8OHMS NOMINal)
Ok po ba to?
Thanks.
Thats a good set for small speakers, busog sa X520BT yan.Salamat sir sa infos...pero napapaisip din po ako kung bibili na lang ako ng medyo ok na amp tapos ung speakers to follow,,payo din po ni sir defcon..kaso po ang budget ko sa speakers medyo maliit na lang..mga 15 or 20k po..for HT set up..at pang music na din..san po kaya ako makakabili ng maayos na speakers if ever..sa ganyang budget.
for a 5.1ch AVR for movie watching: okay na okay ang Denon X520BT + your selected HKTS11B...Salamat sir Mhacman..Atleast hindi po masasayang ang HKTS11B ko po.. dun po sa mga binanggit nyong speakers..no need na po ng subs nyan? sensya na sa nood question.
if you wish to improve your set-up for music listening 2.0 or 2.1, buy a separate mid-sized bookshelf fronts, like Polk RTi A3 or Def Tech SM 45..
while your HKTS11B has it's own sub, you may use it together with the mentioned front bookshelves -- while listening to music. without sub, i believe they'll still sound great providing good mid-bass on music.Well noted Sir Mhacman! salamat po sa time sa pagreply. God bless!
better to audition them for your taste =))
while your HKTS11B has it's own sub, you may use it together with the mentioned front bookshelves -- while listening to music. without sub, i believe they'll still sound great providing good mid-bass on music.Sir Mhacman narinig ko na po ung polk..ok na ok po pasok po sa budget..may mga tanong po ako first nagauditioned po ako ng mga speakers with amps.narinig ko po ung HK avr161 5.1 amp with this HKTS11B1 Daming explanation ng salesman amperes versus wattage,kesyo ang harman daw bumabase sa balanse ng ampheres etc..,nung narinig ko na po..boom! sarap na sarap po ako sa tunog,smooth ang sound kahit po mahina buong buo na hindi ko maintindihan.totoo po ba un or depende na lang sa set-up nila un? 2nd..inoffer naman po sakin with HKTS11B pa din with DENON AVR X1200W na..,kaya pa naman po ba ng HK tong denon na to? and may kamahalan po ba ung dolby atmos speaker enabled? noob question po ulit sensya na.. iniisip ko po din kase since investment ko na din kaya willing po akong magdagdag ng kunteng cash para sa masmalupit na amp ( HINDI KO NA PO ALAM GAGAWIN KO ). salamat po sa maipapayo nyo at ng ibang magbibigay ng payo
better to audition them for your taste =))
hi, paxs.Good Day Sir mHac!
personally, i'll check my listening area and the manner how will I use my HT system. if you're okay not to set it TOO loud and you think the small satellites HKTS11B will satisfy you, then go for it. =))
as for the AVR, would you think you'll also move to playing phono's/LP's in the future? If yes, get an AVR with phono input. some mid-entry Onkyo AVRs have this.
But if not, I would also personally suggest Denon X1200W. if they have X1300W, then better. go future proof with ATMOS/DTS:X.
as for the front ATMOS speakers, use 1 pair from the HKTS11B for your ATMOS heights or top-middle. install them on your ceilings pointing down toward your listening spot. then buy another pair of mid-sized fronts, like how I suggested the Polk or the Def Tech. but note, there are some more decent mid-sized bookshelves to choose from. search/audition ka pa ng iba..
so there, you have the complete set 5.1.2 instantly. mas malaki pa fronts L/R speakers mo to satisfy your 2ch music listening.
PDVD masters, please help guide us for more inputs as well. =)
Any speakers will work as Atmos speakers, make sure to position it properly. (In-Ceiling / Bookshelf speakers)
Any speakers will work as Atmos speakers, make sure to position it properly. (In-Ceiling / Bookshelf speakers)
Need lang ng custom mounting if you're going to use bookshelf type or satellite for Atmos. Sa Japan binbutas nila yun bookshelf speakers. To mount it sa ceiling pointing to the seating position, here saatin I don't think we can risk drilling our speakers.
+1Very much appreciated for the feed backs sir, now the problem is my TV=) as i can remember it doesn't support arc. ano pong dapat kong gawin.
this is true. ATMOS-enabled speakers are those specially-designed speakers placed on top of floor standing speakers or shelved to bounce off the ceiling and to your listening position. but they costs more.
you could also use appropriate pinpoint brackets =)) both for bookshelves & satellites either wall-mounted or ceiling mounted. so if you choose to use a pair of your HKTS11B satellites for ATMOS heights =)
Very much appreciated for the feed backs sir, now the problem is my TV=) as i can remember it doesn't support arc. ano pong dapat kong gawin.
Thanks in advance.
Good Day Sir Tein!
Salamat po sa input nyo..dami kong ng natututnan.. may tanong pa po ako..ung TV ko sa Pinas..wala pong ARC..Mapapagana ko pa po ba tong gears ko sa Tv ko? meron lang sya 1 HDMI port, 1 usb port,1 composite inputs saka 1 digital audio port. TOshiba lang po ng 40" ..40L2400EE model lang po kase.. to follow na lang po ang pagpapalit =).
Salamat po and god bless.
sell your TV and buy a new one with ARC
pwedeng-pwede po.Ok po sir mhac! salamat po ng marami! god bless po.
padaanin mo lahat ng HDMI output ng gears mo (set-up box, media player, game console, bluray/DVD player, etc.) sa AVR's HDMI input. then you'll need 1 HDMI cable to output AV signal from AVR to your TV's HDMI input.
I disable the ARC function with my TV. I believe ARC is to simplify digital cabling (eliminating additional audio cables to video monito/TV) and to enable volume control of your home theater using single remote: either the TV's or AVR's remote.
on your case when you watch a movie/TV and play game (w/o ARC), there will be no sound on TV. but that's the purpose of buying this HT system, di ba? to enjoy it all in pure surround audio =))
try the following stores:
the listening room -- SM Megamall, look for Christine
sound and vision -- Banaue, contact pdvd member sir @tein
sights & sounds -- contact pdvd member sir @vic
^ for this thread =))
updates as well:
- ARC feature is fully working on my DENON without any hiccups vis-a-vis my 4yr old LG LM6200 model -- using a hi-speed HDMI v1.4a cable.
- been able to successfully upgrade firmware for my X1300W -- now DTS:X enabled
- this firmware upgrade enabling Neural:X seems has given my Denon + DefTech speakers a newer and better life!!! I'm even more excited to try out the DTS:X!!!
thanks!
^ up again for this thread =))wow congrats bro. :)
- ARC feature is fully working on my DENON AVR without any hiccups vis-a-vis my Sony 4K Android TV -- using a HDMI v2.0 cable.
- i'm also fortunate to get hold of 3 DTS:X movies (.MKV) -- full movies, not just video test clips
-- Jason Bourne
-- London Has Fallen
-- Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
now I am able to enjoy the full audio experience of DTS:X.
and with the Wetek Hub --> Denon AVR --> Sony Android TV, all my movies got a better life!
^ yes sir, 5.1.2 model. sulit for just this entry-level set-up. heights effects are awesome!ano speakers mo for .2 till now kasi 5.1 lang ako eh.. :-\ :P
thanks!
hi, sir. press the "INFO" button from the remote.
alternatively, press the "Sound Mode"from the remote -- Movie (Green), Music (Red), Game (Blue). it toggles different available sound mode you wish to opt.
on both occasions above, make sure that you are NOT in "TV Audio" input mode. otherwise, it's just S/PDIF or HDMI ARC input from the TV, hence, you won't be able to display back the AVR's audio input/output information.
HTH!
In speaking with Yamaha, they told me they could not confirm any failures of receivers directly attributed to running the high impedance mode with 4 ohm speakers. Their power supply / amplifier failure rate hasn't changed with the inclusion of the impedance selector switch on their A/V receivers.
^ hi sir, I listen to my x1300w bluetooth with my android phone, though... and I notice no delay when switching with the next song.. with 1 second perhaps, but this should be understandable...
with the delay you've experienced, does the song already started (with time moving past 00:00:00) before you hear it from x1300w or the next song totally starts after the a while but it's sync with the Denon? how long is the delay, 2-3secs?
I recall that I already pressed the next song on my phone and it already switched to the next song, but the receiver is still playing the previous song with about 2 second delay.I think its normal, kasi nung audition ko yung x2200 ng Denon yan din na experience ko sa kanya kahit yung Onkyo may ganyang issue din, but after updating yung firmware ng Onkyo ko nawala na delay nya.
Is this normal for Denons? I also auditioned the Onkyo 343 and there's no delay when I switch songs, although I am more keen on getting the Denon for other reasons, obviously.
I think its normal, kasi nung audition ko yung x2200 ng Denon yan din na experience ko sa kanya kahit yung Onkyo may ganyang issue din, but after updating yung firmware ng Onkyo ko nawala na delay nya.
Mga 2 secs din bro.
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New Firmware update.
^ Denon X1300W has no pure direct, sir...
re-check x1300w's specs at Denon webiste =))
^ might just be for improved over-all performance, sir... still a good thing =)
BTW, where have you sourced your avr s720? thought they weren't become available in PH like s920. TIA!
amazon. I usually get my AVRs from them since the prices there are much cheaper even if you include Johnny Air type shipping to Manila.
Sir confirm ko lang if pag purchase mo ba sa amazon meron ka pa din bang babayaran(ex tax, vat etc) when the unit arrives sa house mo?
Sir confirm ko lang if pag purchase mo ba sa amazon meron ka pa din bang babayaran(ex tax, vat etc) when the unit arrives sa house mo?
Sir pag mag order ka sa amazon, ship mo po sa NJ address nila to avoid tax, then, they will forward it to NY address...
nagpa compute ako freight cost ng AVR, range po 8K to 9K. HTH :)
Ok po ba yung denon avr-x520bt as entry level receiver? I-pair ko sana sa Aaudio genesis v2 na FS.
Ok yun denon sir, yun aaudio ang ?????Anthony Audio sir
i don't know about the other bluetooth enabled receivers but denons use very old bluetooth technology. Nakakainis.
sa apple products you're better off using Airplay instead of bluetooth. It's far more responsive and the sound quality for me is much better.
Hello guys. Just want to ask if any has experienced or experiencing in delays when using blutooth to play audio through their Denons? Particularly the Denon AVRX1300W.
I auditioned it last week and there is a delay when switching from one song to the other when I connected my Iphone. Just want to check if this is a common thing or if there is anything we can do to fix it.
Thanks!
I think its normal, kasi nung audition ko yung x2200 ng Denon yan din na experience ko sa kanya kahit yung Onkyo may ganyang issue din, but after updating yung firmware ng Onkyo ko nawala na delay nya.
^ hi sir, I listen to my x1300w bluetooth with my android phone, though... and I notice no delay when switching with the next song.. with 1 second perhaps, but this should be understandable...
with the delay you've experienced, does the song already started (with time moving past 00:00:00) before you hear it from x1300w or the next song totally starts after the a while but it's sync with the Denon? how long is the delay, 2-3secs?
Gano katagal yung delay sa x2200? I tried the Onkyo and walang delay, baka updated firmware na yun.
Mga 2 secs din bro.
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^ was discussed previously on page 78, sir.. see below quotes -- though not in particular order =)
Mga Bro, my Denon 1404 after a few seconds shuts off when turned on. What could be the problem? Help please. Thanks ...
Mga Bro, my Denon 1404 after a few seconds shuts off when turned on. What could be the problem? Help please. Thanks ...
That could be going on protect mode.
have unplugged all connections, will try to plug into an AVR later (Previously just using a surge protector)
Still experiencing the auto-shutdown of the unit. May recommended reliable repair shop ba in manila?Sa Raon Madaming repair shops. Kaso di sila maingat sa cosmetics. Meron din sa proj 8 QC Madami na narepair na gears ng Pdvd members.
Sa Raon Madaming repair shops. Kaso di sila maingat sa cosmetics. Meron din sa proj 8 QC Madami na narepair na gears ng Pdvd members.
Highly recommended yung taga Proj 8 QC!!!
Hi fellow Pinoydvd members,
I want to ask for assistance po in using the calibration software of denon x-540bt. I bought this as a replacement with my Pioneer vsx-1022 po. My speakers are all wharfedale and the frequency response is listed below po:
Front - Wharfedale Crystal 4 with frequency response of 30hz-2000hz.
Center - Wharfedale WH-2 with frequency response of 80hz-2000hz.
Surround - Wharfedale WH-2 with frequency response of 80hz-2000hz.
Sub - US audio 512D (Don't know the frequency response) but the crossover knob is set all the way to max (I think 120hz or 150hz), Volume level knob was set to 12 o'clock position.
When I ran the Denon Auto setup if made the following changes:
Front - was set to Large and the crossover was set to 40
Center - was set to Large and the crossover was set to 40
Surrounds - was set to Small and crossover was set 90.
Sub - LPF for LFE was set to 120
I change the front and center to small speakers as I always do but my question is, Should I leave the center crossover to 40hz? as the frequency response of my center is only 80hz as the lowest. What would be the ideal crossover settings for my speakers to attain optimal settings. Any assistance po is much appreciated po. Thanks in Advance po sa mga mag susuggest po.
the calibration method for your avr isn't Audyssey. Since you seem to be familiar with your speakers' freq range I'd rather that you go by your specs and ears rather than rely on this calibration software. Heck, even if it did use Audyssey I'd still do the fine tuning using my own ears.
anong height mo sir, FH or RH?
edit: nakita ko na sir FH pala sir
try nyo rin dynamic eq on and dynamic volume off.
Hi everyone, naka avr-2310 ako connected thru toslink cable from my macmini. Fronts left and right lang ang speakers. Question, pag nanonood ako ng movies wala akong marinig na dialogue sa left and right speakers ko. Pag select ko yung pure direct, 5.1 yung nakikita ko sa screen ng avr. So papano ko ma-force na 2.0 lang dun sa remote?
(Bigay lang kse sakn tong receiver).
Thanks everyone..
i just checked Denon avr-x3400h at Accessories4Less. only 1 searched item came up. it's 549USD (item condition: refurbished)
also checked Denon avr-x3400h at Amazon. several searched items came up. 1 for 599USD (item condition: new) and another 1 for 549USD (item condition: refurbished). I think both Accessories4Less & Amazon may have the same stores as source.
What I'm looking at is the AVR-X1400H.
Got it locally at Listening room with warranty..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_WRqfRcm4k&t=53s
With similar prices to Amazon or A4L?
Definitely NOT! I bought my other gears on different international online stores like Amazon, Aliexpress, Alibaba, ebay...... but never this store.
Definitely NOT! I bought my other gears on different international online stores like Amazon, Aliexpress, Alibaba, ebay...... but never this store.
baka ang gusto kasi ni sir @leon21 are refurbished gears-- as these are what usually available from A4L, thus the name implies "4less". though I found that Amazon do sell refurbished items as well. I think, there's more peace of mind with Amazon.
going with brand new/sealed is better it budget permits. and best if locally purchased so that you'd have a working warranty. mas mahal lang talaga dito sa PH. kaya I find the people living in the US, swerte sa mga ganitong gears =))
You mind sharing how much you got your Denon for from Listening Room? I'll probably drop by their store over the next few days just so I know my options before making a possible purchase.
Can i use the other hdmi out to connect to my projector?
That's the purpose of it, you can connect two displays simultaneously. But AFAIK, only one has an audio out and the other hdmi output is merely for monitor display only, meaning NO audio out.
Hi mga papi, yung output from my front right speaker bigla na lang humina, i already tried swapping cables and speakers, pero mahina pa rin, i already reset to factory settings pero ganon pa rin, my AVR is Denon 1910. Ano kaya problem? TIA
Nangyari din sa akin yan sa dati kong Yamaha, tried different trouble shoot on the avr, pero sa speaker pala mismo nag loose connection inside. Just try swaping your speakers.I already tried swapping speakers, same result. And tried to setup audyssey again, here is the result:
Hello, anyone here who have denon avh x2400h? Ok po ba siya. Wala kasi ako mahanap na maauditionan. Thanks
kung loose connection lang yan baka may putol na yung AC cord sa dulo, try another one kung replaceable, nangyari na sa akin kasi ito, na stress yung bending point nung AC cord. Kung may fuse holder naman sya try cleaning the fuse ends/ holder baka nag corrode na sya. Or baka lumutong na yung solder sa loob at nag kakaron ng intermittent connections.
try to solve muna by deductions, anything you can replace try & see. HTH
^try pa naman daw ayusin bro, yun nga lang wala ng warranty daw yung repair kasi nga di na daw supported and gagawaan na lang paraan
2018 models are now available (e.g. x2500h, x550BT). Is there anything apart from HEOS that makes it worth getting these over x1300H or x1400H?
@Yunarce, been going around seems like everyone's selling the x1400H at the same price 34990. Some have cash discounts others no diff cash or card... odd since they are now officially 2 yr old models here.
okidoki, sana nga maayos pa nila.
just heard back from the service center and it's good news. may kailangan lang palitan na part which is cheap. apparently nag-overheat daw ang receiver. yung placement ko yata sa rack doesn't leave enough air to circulate. ililipat ko na lang para makahingaAng ginawa ko bili ng laptop cooler, yung two fans, then put on top of the receiver(air movement away from receiver) which emits the most heat, bought 5v usb charger, a plug which you can program with the remote control. Pag on ng receiver, turn on din ang fan. If same lang ang on/off button, pag off mo, turn off din ang fan pag turn off ng receiver. Pag naka sleep lang you have to manually turn off the fan. All from Lazada.. Less than 1k total. Receiver now cool to touch.
question lang mga sir, im looking to buy a denon s730h from the US rated at 400w. okay na ba yung 500w step down transformer?
which is better? a step down transformer or an AVR?
thank you.
cool! nice to know.
anong part daw pinalitan nila?
my Denon is pushing all my six 4 ohm low sensitivity speakers to an SPL that is beyond normal listening levels and never broke down in 7 years. Same method: laptop cooler with twin fan wired to a 5V wall wart from an old i-phone and plugged at the back of the Denon as a slave. When AVR is on it turns on as well.
Ang ginawa ko bili ng laptop cooler, yung two fans, then put on top of the receiver(air movement away from receiver) which emits the most heat, bought 5v usb charger, a plug which you can program with the remote control. Pag on ng receiver, turn on din ang fan. If same lang ang on/off button, pag off mo, turn off din ang fan pag turn off ng receiver. Pag naka sleep lang you have to manually turn off the fan. All from Lazada.. Less than 1k total. Receiver now cool to touch.
sorry, medyo noob. so i buy laptop cooler that's usb powered. how do i get it to power on with the receiver? tapos tama ang intindi ko, the fan blows away from the receiver? so it sucks heat out?You can power it through a usb charger. The ones used for cellphone charging. To power on with the receiver, you need a plug that can be programmed with a remote. Please see link. Yes it sucks heat out. You can feel the heat when you place your hand directly over the fan.
^ need to refer back with Denon user manual. though IIRC, their USB port is with 5V-powered. so okay na yung USB-wired cooling fan na ikabit sa USB port ng AVR.The problem with my usb port is it will only have power if you select usb. No power when selector is not usb.. No slave outlet din ang receiver. Kaya programable plug because I cannot find an extension cord with master and slave outlet. There is a extension cord where one plug is the master. If it senses to draw power, it will turn on all the other outlet. When the appliance connected to the master outlet turns off, it also turns off the rest of the outlet. Kaso wala sa local. This would have been the ideal solution.
check your user manual, para sure kayo =)
The problem with my usb port is it will only have power if you select usb. No power when selector is not usb.. No slave outlet din ang receiver. Kaya programable plug because I cannot find an extension cord with master and slave outlet. There is a extension cord where one plug is the master. If it senses to draw power, it will turn on all the other outlet. When the appliance connected to the master outlet turns off, it also turns off the rest of the outlet. Kaso wala sa local. This would have been the ideal solution.
A/V Receiver cooler
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/AVR%20Fan%20Project/IMG_0338.jpg)
Low speed setting (at roughly ~60% power)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/AVR%20Fan%20Project/IMG_0337.jpg)
High speed setting (full power)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/AVR%20Fan%20Project/IMG_0336.jpg)
Actual tests takes less than 30 seconds to cool down a 45 degree Celcius AVR to room temperature at Low speed setting.
Cheers
Eto gamit ko. naka tiklop yung octopus, and naka patong sa AVR and bumili ako ng magnet para naka angat konti pag patong. Hindi kailangan malakas, need lang air exchange. Kasi if sobra lakas, konti lang ang time ng air to absorb the heat inside. hanapin mo lang saan ang pinaka mainit na portion and doon mo patong.
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/usb-mini-octopus-laptop-notebook-foldable-folding-fan-cooler-cooling-pad-1-pcs-intl-i138725233-s156799995.html?search=1
Anyone know of a shop selling the Denon AVR-X3500H (https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/denon-avr-x3500h) for less than P59,500?
san yung love electronics? sa paranaque area ba sya? tymay branch siya sa parañaque bro. http://www.love-electronics.com/2/index.php/en/branches/paranaque-city
Guys my Denon is around 5yrs old and i bought it abroad for around 35k (dito nasa mga 55k yata). Question is, will they repair it here sa Pinas?anong model ng Denon ito boss?
Problem: nawawala yung mid and rear speakers kahit naka set to 5channel stereo. I tried to tinker with the menu and inalis ko yung mid/rear then test tone then binalik ko then test tone and did this several times until i heard a "tick" sa denon tapos nagkaroon na ng sound yung mid and rears ko and everything is fine until i turn off the power. Every time i turn on the amp, i need to go to the menu para mapalabas ko yung mid and rear sound sa speakers ko. It sometimes takes 2mins and minsan more than 10mins.
Ano kaya problema nya? hinigpitan ko ulit lahat ng speaker wire so i guess its not there.
Set fronts to small
I bought an old Denon AVR 1613 in the market and hindi ko mapalabas yung sound sa sub, Im only using the analog source input "DVD" connecting my phone for audio. I already set the Fronts to Large and Sub to Yes but still no sound coming sa sub.
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
Issue resolved. Need to set pala the sub to LFE/Main. Hini kasi makita when you set up the speakers using the Receiver display. When connected to TV andon configuration ng settings.. (first time to use HDMI capable receiver) ;DWelcome to the 21st century! ;D
Welcome to the 21st century! ;D
WHOAH! Denon has just upped it's 2019 AVR X3600H! this will be the top-of-the-line Denon AVR for 2019. it now has a 9-ch native amplification... and a 11-ch pre-out!
https://www.the-home-cinema-guide.com/denon-receivers.html#x3600
none on 4xxx to 6xxx models for 2019... they said they will be sold and rolled-off for 2years. the best is yet to come for these models on 2020 =)
Sirain po ba ang denon receivers? Tumatagal ng 10+ years? Gusto ko sana magpalit from yamaha dahil medyo bright sounding siya at gusto ko ma-experience yung audyssey multeq xt32.
Luckily, the Atmos/DTS-X exclusivity has already at least settled (over the years), and trickle-down technology is now being seen in the lower models. Can't wait to have my own 7.2.4 in the future (distant future hahaha)
hi all, experiencing a problem with my denon 1713 receiver (6 years old, purchased in 2014).You may want to get in touch with Manuel Sales.He is a trusted technician and is doing home service.
I hear cracking/popping sounds from the right front speaker and then the receiver turns off after a while. I tried the following:
1. plugged and unplugged the speaker wires at the back;
2. used contact cleaner; and
3. changed the speaker wire.
It's the same result.
I also tried switching cables - when i plugged the left front speakers to the R speakers plug in the back of the denon, the left speaker started cracking/popping. so it's really the plug at the back of the receiver and not the speaker which is the problem. all others are working.
Is it time to buy a new receiver? Worth it ba ipa-ayos?
Sirain po ba ang denon receivers? Tumatagal ng 10+ years? Gusto ko sana magpalit from yamaha dahil medyo bright sounding siya at gusto ko ma-experience yung audyssey multeq xt32.
You may want to get in touch with Manuel Sales.He is a trusted technician and is doing home service.
+639171392603-Manuel Sales.
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You may want to get in touch with Manuel Sales.He is a trusted technician and is doing home service.
+639171392603-Manuel Sales.
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Update: I was able to get in touch with Manuel Sales and he was able to fix my Denon receiver. Due to COVID, however, he doesn't do home service nowadays. I sent him my receiver via Lalamove.Congratulations you were able to evade buying a new receiver.
Update: I was able to get in touch with Manuel Sales and he was able to fix my Denon receiver. Due to COVID, however, he doesn't do home service nowadays. I sent him my receiver via Lalamove.Sir I suggest isabay mo na pakabitan ng fan. Pwede yan kay sir manny
Update: I was able to get in touch with Manuel Sales and he was able to fix my Denon receiver. Due to COVID, however, he doesn't do home service nowadays. I sent him my receiver via Lalamove.The cell number of Manuel Sales is incorrect. Do you have his updated number? TIA.
The cell number of Manuel Sales is incorrect. Do you have his updated number? TIA.
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Thanks jamjam. Appreciate it
Killa si Manny sa pagiging mahusay na tech, hopefully eh magawa yung gamit mo
Was trying to call Manuel's number but no luck. Thanks!
09164943285
was just texting him a few days ago. He is using this new number
09164943285
was just texting him a few days ago. He is using this new number
all sorted, manuel came over and managed to do a workaround to get my unit working. Wasn't able to fix it 100%, but since the issue was with the amplifier portion of my AVR and I wasn't using that (since I have a power amp that drives my speakers), we just bypassed that so the unit doesn't turn off. Recommended!